Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: All right, this is it the big debate. It happens
Speaker 2: literally in twenty four minutes from now. Mo Kelly will
Speaker 2: start with you. What do you expect to lie, Bob Well,
Speaker 2: I expect to fire works. As two people are no
Speaker 2: to be serious.
Speaker 3: I expect different things from the different candidates. I think
Speaker 3: they have different goals they want to achieve. I think
Speaker 3: former President Trump wants to knock the vice president off
Speaker 3: her game, distract her, have it be about him, have
Speaker 3: it be about negative banter back and forth, and if
Speaker 3: he's successful, then he would make her look as if
Speaker 3: she's not ready for prime time, unintended, and make her
Speaker 3: seem to any undecided voter that she's not ready to
Speaker 3: be president.
Speaker 4: That's his goal, her goal.
Speaker 3: I think she's going to be speaking to the main camera,
Speaker 3: looking at America and say, look, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be caught up in that. I am the person who
Speaker 3: is best suited for the job. Look at him, you know,
Speaker 3: see what he look at his antics, and see that
Speaker 3: I'm about serious business.
Speaker 4: Here's my policy.
Speaker 2: Why Mark, why do you think that there was a
Speaker 2: big fight about turning the mics on or keeping them
Speaker 2: off or what was that all about?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 5: Well, the Trump people wanted to maintain this mute system
Speaker 5: that was agreed upon by the Biden camp and the
Speaker 5: Trump camp, And it may be that the Harris people
Speaker 5: felt that she could at least opportunistically jump in to
Speaker 5: kind of check him on a fact, at least have
Speaker 5: that option open.
Speaker 4: It also might have been a psychological.
Speaker 5: Thing, like to know that she can jump in might
Speaker 5: have been something that would throw him off his beam.
Speaker 5: That said, I think a little too much is being
Speaker 5: made of that, but that would be my suspicion because
Speaker 5: they gave on it anyway. So it continues to be
Speaker 5: a mute at Mike situation.
Speaker 4: As you know.
Speaker 5: The one thing I would say that Trump will do,
Speaker 5: and he can probably do it to some success tonight,
Speaker 5: is to attach Harris to the border policy and the
Speaker 5: problems at the border. Now she can parry back that
Speaker 5: he chaoed legislation that would have taken care of that
Speaker 5: border situation. But I really feel as though they this
Speaker 5: is based on their attack ads, which have been I
Speaker 5: think very effective. The Trump attack ads on Harris have
Speaker 5: been really effective. I think that he's going to make
Speaker 5: some political hay of that tonight, and I'd be surprised
Speaker 5: if he didn't.
Speaker 2: You know, all of the the video that is accusing
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris of flip flopping, it all comes from one
Speaker 2: CNN interview in twenty nineteen, all of it, All of
Speaker 2: that video when you see you know, she's against fracking,
Speaker 2: she's against you know, she she wants a strong you know,
Speaker 2: not open border, but a little more relaxed. And then
Speaker 2: there was a third one there about the economy. But
Speaker 2: it all comes back to that one interview. And if
Speaker 2: it wasn't for that one interview, none of that video
Speaker 2: would exist, or at least they would have to, you know,
Speaker 2: certainly look for it.
Speaker 5: I mean, the flip flopping thing, I think she will handle,
Speaker 5: don't you agree, mo? I mean I think by now
Speaker 5: she is loaded with responses on that that. You know, Look,
Speaker 5: time has passed. I've considered a number of facts that
Speaker 5: really weren't in evidence at the time, and I've yeah,
Speaker 5: I've modified my positions. It would be nice if the
Speaker 5: former president were able to do that as well.
Speaker 3: I think to agree, yes, I would agree, but also
Speaker 3: in a more conventional time, it would have been more important.
Speaker 3: This is not going to be a policy Leyden discussion tonight.
Speaker 3: This is going to be filled with insults and Harry's good. Now,
Speaker 3: what is going to be the advantage for former President
Speaker 3: Trump is Kamala Harris will have to defend herself as
Speaker 3: a candidate and will also have to defend the record
Speaker 3: of the Biden administration where she is vice president, didn't
Speaker 3: drive the bus, but still was on the bus us
Speaker 3: and has to account for the good and the bad
Speaker 3: of Biden policy.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm surprised that you know her positioning her
Speaker 2: position on fracking.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: A far left wing liberal, but I don't even like fracking,
Speaker 2: and I think she may have been onto something to
Speaker 2: say she was against it.
Speaker 4: I think most of the people in this country are
Speaker 4: against fracking.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't think most people in this country
Speaker 3: are into nuance and discussing that debate. I don't think
Speaker 3: most people know that we're producing more oil energy than
Speaker 3: ever before, and if you don't include that into that
Speaker 3: the discussion about fracking, that you don't have the real
Speaker 3: context to properly assess what she meant by that.
Speaker 4: I also think that most people in this country.
Speaker 5: Don't live in Pennsylvania where tracking is actually a big
Speaker 5: part of that economy.
Speaker 4: That's why she flipped, right, But to flip for one state.
Speaker 5: Well, she needs that state, I mean, she absolutely needs
Speaker 5: that state.
Speaker 4: All right, we are going to take a small break.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: We're doing the news presidential debate simulcast right here on
Speaker 2: kf I AM six forty. All right, let me ask
Speaker 2: Mo Kelly and Mark Thompson. Somebody emailed us here with
Speaker 2: the question for the two fellas, if there was a
Speaker 2: full primary this year, do you think the nominee would
Speaker 2: be Kamala Harris Well Kelly?
Speaker 3: Possibly, not definitely, but the full primary doesn't really make
Speaker 3: any difference.
Speaker 4: People sometimes forget that the primary is not required.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of parties like the Green Party,
Speaker 3: Libertarian Party. They go to a hotel, have an orgy,
Speaker 3: come out, here's our nominee, Jill Stein. You know that's
Speaker 3: a better convention, But I'm saying many times it's just
Speaker 3: a weekend get together. And we didn't have full primaries
Speaker 3: of all fifty states until the nineteen seventies, so people
Speaker 3: sometimes forget that they're not necessary.
Speaker 4: Mark Thompson tell me something I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think that is a strong man argument, the idea
Speaker 5: somehow that the primary didn't yield this candidate, somehow she
Speaker 5: weaker because she wasn't tested by the primaries. I mean,
Speaker 5: she would still have gone into any kind of the primary.
Speaker 4: As the vice president.
Speaker 5: She probably would have had a lot of half from
Speaker 5: the Democratic Party behind her.
Speaker 4: Wrong, Patti Pipe.
Speaker 2: All right, so we're gonna see the debate starts night
Speaker 2: at six o'clock. There's some weird rules about this debate.
Speaker 2: You can't bring any notes with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll let you bring with you a pad and
Speaker 5: a writing implement, so in other words, they'll be taking notes,
Speaker 5: but they're not allowed to bring notes, right.
Speaker 2: And there's also I think I read somewhere where both
Speaker 2: both podiums have to be the same, you know, like
Speaker 2: she can't be on a riser, right.
Speaker 4: That's exactly.
Speaker 5: And the visual mo I thought was really really weak
Speaker 5: when she sat down to an interview with Walls, and
Speaker 5: on the CNN interview she looked tiny because of the
Speaker 5: camera angle. And I'm not saying that, you know, I
Speaker 5: don't know how man people noticed it, but on the
Speaker 5: three shot it was really claring.
Speaker 3: Well, this is an interesting point if you're a student
Speaker 3: of history. And I know Mark you know this, and
Speaker 3: Tim you know this, But the visuals matter. Going back
Speaker 3: to Nixon, and Kennedy and how Nixon was sweating during
Speaker 3: the televised portion debate. But if you listen to the
Speaker 3: debate on the radio, you thought that Nixon won, but
Speaker 3: televivision made it look like he lost because he looked
Speaker 3: flustered and overheating.
Speaker 4: So the visuals do matter. And the debate is literally in.
Speaker 2: You know, it'll start around in ten minutes from now,
Speaker 2: and it's just moments away, the presidential debate around fifteen,
Speaker 2: around ten minutes or so away. Both candidates have arrived
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. Their campaign surrogates are already on the ground
Speaker 2: providing spin already, and the spin room afterwards.
Speaker 5: You saw who's a providing spin, didn't you, Tim, No,
Speaker 5: it's among I think Newsham is one person providing spin.
Speaker 5: But on the GOP side, RFK Junior is providing. He's
Speaker 5: a big trumpet.
Speaker 2: Now do you know, did you see there's a fundraiser
Speaker 2: going on in California for Donald Trump and they're gonna
Speaker 2: raise you know, a couple million.
Speaker 4: Dollars or so.
Speaker 2: And you know who's the head of the head of
Speaker 2: that fundraiser. It's it's Gavin Newsom's wife's family.
Speaker 4: I know, that's crazy. They're big Republicans. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: got to irritate him, that really does.
Speaker 5: I mean, and they're going for big money in Woodside,
Speaker 5: which is just south of San Francisco. It's like where
Speaker 5: all these streets are paved with gold type thing. They're
Speaker 5: gonna they'll get sacks of money out of that place.
Speaker 4: That is so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, the the weird association to the Newsom family.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is odd.
Speaker 2: And you would think that, you know, because of you know,
Speaker 2: how how close the you know, what a powerful figure
Speaker 2: he is in the Democratic Party, that maybe the wife
Speaker 2: would lay off.
Speaker 4: But it's the wife's relative, right.
Speaker 2: The wife's right, the wife's relative, but she might be
Speaker 2: able to say, hey, look I married to the governor.
Speaker 4: Would you mind chilling out? That's you know, that's right.
Speaker 4: All right. So it's gonna be a ninety minute debate.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be two breaks, and ABC, thank god, is
Speaker 2: allowing all the television networks to simulcast the debate, so
Speaker 2: you see it on you know, any number of TV stations,
Speaker 2: but you'll only hear it here on KFI. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna run anything else tonight between six and seven thirty.
Speaker 2: Other than that debate, and so you're gonna be here
Speaker 2: it right here on k on KFI and then Moe
Speaker 2: Kelly will be around. I will be home by then,
Speaker 2: and uh with with the wrap up.
Speaker 5: And I'm just thinking about the amount of time that
Speaker 5: Trump was coached in prior debates, you know, when he
Speaker 5: went up against Biden and Clinton, and well, yeah, and
Speaker 5: I and I just think about how he was. Chris
Speaker 5: Christie popped up on the screen for a second. I thought,
Speaker 5: you know, Chris Christie coached him in that debate. Again,
Speaker 5: Remember he was the Chris You got to get up
Speaker 5: in his grill, you got to like it, you got
Speaker 5: to talk right over him.
Speaker 4: You got it.
Speaker 5: Because he's a he's got problems with the way he speaks,
Speaker 5: and it'll throw him off his game. And I don't
Speaker 5: know that that was the most successful. So I'm wondering
Speaker 5: what advice Donald Trump is getting right now.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know him, never met him, but I
Speaker 2: have a feeling he ignores a lot of advice, a
Speaker 2: lot of advice.
Speaker 4: Thrown his way and he's like, screw it, I'll do
Speaker 4: it my way.
Speaker 2: But closing statements was a coin toss, and it was
Speaker 2: held virtually on September third, with the candidate who won
Speaker 2: the coin toss allowed to choose the order of closing
Speaker 2: statements or podium placement. Trump won the coin toss and
Speaker 2: chose to select the other the order of statements. So
Speaker 2: the former president chose to offer the last closing statement,
Speaker 2: which is what you want, yes, and then the podium
Speaker 2: placement then would have been Kamala Harris's decision. And so
Speaker 2: after the coin toss, Harris was allowed to choose the
Speaker 2: podium placement. So when you see her tonight, she chose
Speaker 2: that side.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, I think again, of less significance, the
Speaker 5: closing statement is a real big win.
Speaker 4: You want to be the last You always want to
Speaker 4: be the last word.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are gonna ski daddle, but I know Moe
Speaker 2: Kelly is going to be sitting here. We'll I'll be
Speaker 2: sitting here until seven and then you know, in case
Speaker 2: there's a big earthquake or anything that goes on, but
Speaker 2: it'll be from six to seven thirty will be the debate.
Speaker 2: It's the ABC Presidential Debate, simcast right here on KFIM
Speaker 2: six forty and then a wrap up at seven thirty,
Speaker 2: including your whole your whole crew thing do wrong with you?
Speaker 4: All right? Very good.
Speaker 2: We are moments away from this big, huge ass debate.
Speaker 2: This is going to be wild tonight. I think there
Speaker 2: are going to be more people that watch this debate
Speaker 2: than the Biden debate, the Biden drum debate. Absolutely agree,
Speaker 2: and that there was fifty million people who saw that debate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean those are you know, approaching you know, half
Speaker 2: of Super Bowl numbers. So I think tonight will be
Speaker 2: even bigger. All right, and then there's only going to
Speaker 2: be two breaks during this bait and uh and and so.
Speaker 4: We mostly chit chat.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see, and it's happening in moments,
Speaker 2: moments from now. And I know, if you're big into politics,
Speaker 2: you're very nervous. If you're a Trump lover, you're a
Speaker 2: Maga guy, you're very nervous. If you love Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: you're very nervous for her. But I think most people,
Speaker 2: they say thirty percent of the people watching tonight will
Speaker 2: decide who to vote for based on the performance tonight,
Speaker 2: which is utterly insane, but all right, yeah, have but
Speaker 2: thirty percent, that's a significant number.
Speaker 5: No, I think it's that's a Probably that's amazing to me.
Speaker 5: That's isn't it amazing to you? Mo that thirty percent
Speaker 5: of the people still haven't decided to the point that
Speaker 5: they're going to go off of what they see tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't believe them. I'm mine. I think
Speaker 4: right well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people ignore politics. You know,
Speaker 2: we we don't hear a KFI. But if you go
Speaker 2: into you know, a lot of states in the South
Speaker 2: or in the Midwest, they don't, you know, they're they're
Speaker 2: living their lives.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's more that they've made their decision and
Speaker 3: maybe thirty percent of peace people are open to being
Speaker 3: that might be persuaded.
Speaker 4: Possibly that might be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, we're gonna get out of here. The debate
Speaker 2: happening shortly right here. It's the ABC News presidential debate
Speaker 2: simulcast here on kf I A M. Six forty Mark,
Speaker 2: nice to see you. You're gonna walk, You're gonna talk
Speaker 2: this up right, it's.
Speaker 4: Going to go, Oh yeah, I'm not doing.
Speaker 2: Anything, has nothing to play.
Speaker 3: I would like to say that this is KFI and
Speaker 3: KOs T h D two Los Angeles and Orange County.
Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, Okay, No, we will, I definitely will talk
Speaker 2: this up right up to the you know, to the
Speaker 2: top of the hour when the debate starts. But ABC,
Speaker 2: you know, ABC is paying for all of this, and
Speaker 2: so you know, we obviously have to give them credit
Speaker 2: when we say the ABC News presidential debate simulcast right
Speaker 2: here on kf I AM six forty. But Mark Thompson
Speaker 2: noticed we were watching CNN earlier and CNN was calling
Speaker 2: it the CNN debate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they said that, They said the debate on CNN.
Speaker 4: Is the way they put yeah, right on CNN. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but there was no reference to ABC anywhere.
Speaker 5: And as I'm watching NBC, they're kind of doing the
Speaker 5: same thing Canada's face off in first debate NBC News.
Speaker 5: You see the NBC News logo. There is no ABC
Speaker 5: News logo anywhere. Now, when they get to the actual debate,
Speaker 5: it will be you know, the whole place is going
Speaker 5: to be festooned with ABC News stuff.
Speaker 2: And you know who else is not putting ABC News
Speaker 2: debate on their channel?
Speaker 4: ABC? You think they would throw it up.
Speaker 2: But why do you think moment, let me ask you,
Speaker 2: and then maybe Mark and Chiman as well.
Speaker 4: Why you know, back in the old days.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking even like four years ago, there was
Speaker 2: a crowd in for the debate, and that made it,
Speaker 2: at least for me, more interesting than the reaction of
Speaker 2: the crowd.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think this actually works against former President Trump
Speaker 3: because I think he gets energy from the crowd and
Speaker 3: how people may respond, even if it's a jeer or
Speaker 3: a boot, he feels and feeds off them. It helps
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris in this instance.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he really play to the room. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: what Trump does. He'll even change his positions on major
Speaker 5: policy based on the room. He'll really modify a lot
Speaker 5: of what he says to get the room. And so
Speaker 5: not having the room or having the room empty, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a net loss for Trump that way.
Speaker 2: If this debate does not go well for Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: or does not go well for Donald Trump, you think
Speaker 2: there'll be a second or a third before the election.
Speaker 4: I doubt it. It's such a short time, don't you think, Mom,
Speaker 4: It's so comported. Look, we're halfway through September fall.
Speaker 3: Intents and purposes, they had to do a lot of
Speaker 3: wrangling just to get him in for this one debate.
Speaker 3: I don't think regardless of the outcome, there won't be
Speaker 3: a second debate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't think so. Now, how about this.
Speaker 2: If Kamala Harris doesn't do well tonight, Let's say she,
Speaker 2: you know, passes out halfway through it, do you think
Speaker 2: they replace her on the ticket?
Speaker 4: I think that ship has sailed, you know, debate.
Speaker 2: All right, the debate is going to start momentarily and
Speaker 2: we're going to have it live here. ABC is running it,
Speaker 2: and again ABC deserves a lot of credit. They're paying
Speaker 2: the cameramen, they're paying the electric, they paid for the set.
Speaker 2: They flew all their people down there to broadcast this thing.
Speaker 2: And CNN got pissed off last time because CNN ratings
Speaker 2: weren't as high as Fox on that last debate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy.
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