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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this is it the big debate. It happens

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<v Speaker 2>literally in twenty four minutes from now. Mo Kelly will

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<v Speaker 2>start with you. What do you expect to lie, Bob Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I expect to fire works. As two people are no

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<v Speaker 2>to be serious.

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<v Speaker 3>I expect different things from the different candidates. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they have different goals they want to achieve. I think

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<v Speaker 3>former President Trump wants to knock the vice president off

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<v Speaker 3>her game, distract her, have it be about him, have

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<v Speaker 3>it be about negative banter back and forth, and if

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<v Speaker 3>he's successful, then he would make her look as if

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<v Speaker 3>she's not ready for prime time, unintended, and make her

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<v Speaker 3>seem to any undecided voter that she's not ready to

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<v Speaker 3>be president.

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<v Speaker 4>That's his goal, her goal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's going to be speaking to the main camera,

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<v Speaker 3>looking at America and say, look, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be caught up in that. I am the person who

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<v Speaker 3>is best suited for the job. Look at him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>see what he look at his antics, and see that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about serious business.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's my policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Mark, why do you think that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>big fight about turning the mics on or keeping them

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<v Speaker 2>off or what was that all about?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Trump people wanted to maintain this mute system

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<v Speaker 5>that was agreed upon by the Biden camp and the

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<v Speaker 5>Trump camp, And it may be that the Harris people

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<v Speaker 5>felt that she could at least opportunistically jump in to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of check him on a fact, at least have

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<v Speaker 5>that option open.

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<v Speaker 4>It also might have been a psychological.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing, like to know that she can jump in might

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<v Speaker 5>have been something that would throw him off his beam.

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<v Speaker 5>That said, I think a little too much is being

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<v Speaker 5>made of that, but that would be my suspicion because

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<v Speaker 5>they gave on it anyway. So it continues to be

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<v Speaker 5>a mute at Mike situation.

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<v Speaker 4>As you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing I would say that Trump will do,

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<v Speaker 5>and he can probably do it to some success tonight,

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<v Speaker 5>is to attach Harris to the border policy and the

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<v Speaker 5>problems at the border. Now she can parry back that

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<v Speaker 5>he chaoed legislation that would have taken care of that

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<v Speaker 5>border situation. But I really feel as though they this

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<v Speaker 5>is based on their attack ads, which have been I

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<v Speaker 5>think very effective. The Trump attack ads on Harris have

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<v Speaker 5>been really effective. I think that he's going to make

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<v Speaker 5>some political hay of that tonight, and I'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 5>if he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, all of the the video that is accusing

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris of flip flopping, it all comes from one

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<v Speaker 2>CNN interview in twenty nineteen, all of it, All of

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<v Speaker 2>that video when you see you know, she's against fracking,

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<v Speaker 2>she's against you know, she she wants a strong you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not open border, but a little more relaxed. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there was a third one there about the economy. But

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<v Speaker 2>it all comes back to that one interview. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for that one interview, none of that video

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<v Speaker 2>would exist, or at least they would have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly look for it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the flip flopping thing, I think she will handle,

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<v Speaker 5>don't you agree, mo? I mean I think by now

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<v Speaker 5>she is loaded with responses on that that. You know, Look,

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<v Speaker 5>time has passed. I've considered a number of facts that

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<v Speaker 5>really weren't in evidence at the time, and I've yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I've modified my positions. It would be nice if the

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<v Speaker 5>former president were able to do that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think to agree, yes, I would agree, but also

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<v Speaker 3>in a more conventional time, it would have been more important.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not going to be a policy Leyden discussion tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be filled with insults and Harry's good. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going to be the advantage for former President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is Kamala Harris will have to defend herself as

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<v Speaker 3>a candidate and will also have to defend the record

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<v Speaker 3>of the Biden administration where she is vice president, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>drive the bus, but still was on the bus us

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<v Speaker 3>and has to account for the good and the bad

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<v Speaker 3>of Biden policy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm surprised that you know her positioning her

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<v Speaker 2>position on fracking.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>A far left wing liberal, but I don't even like fracking,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think she may have been onto something to

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<v Speaker 2>say she was against it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think most of the people in this country are

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<v Speaker 4>against fracking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but I don't think most people in this country

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<v Speaker 3>are into nuance and discussing that debate. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>most people know that we're producing more oil energy than

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<v Speaker 3>ever before, and if you don't include that into that

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<v Speaker 3>the discussion about fracking, that you don't have the real

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<v Speaker 3>context to properly assess what she meant by that.

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<v Speaker 4>I also think that most people in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't live in Pennsylvania where tracking is actually a big

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<v Speaker 5>part of that economy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why she flipped, right, But to flip for one state.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she needs that state, I mean, she absolutely needs

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<v Speaker 5>that state.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we are going to take a small break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back and then the debate it starts, The

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<v Speaker 2>actual ABC News presidential debate starts. We're gonna simulcast right

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<v Speaker 2>here on KFI AM six forty. It starts at six pm.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if we have any more information on these

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<v Speaker 2>three fires at the burning we got the line fire

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<v Speaker 2>up in San Borentino, the airport fire and Tribuco Canyon

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<v Speaker 2>and the surrounding area, and then the bridge fire just

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<v Speaker 2>off the two ten freeway, just a little bit northeast

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<v Speaker 2>of Claremont. We'll have any more updates on acreage and

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<v Speaker 2>containment for you right here on KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't forget major lottery pick tonight. That could be

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<v Speaker 2>worth I think eight hundred million dollars. Wow, wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 2>be nice to win it? And then if we did,

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<v Speaker 2>we would all be on an awesome vacation. We could

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<v Speaker 2>rent out an entire cruise ship and just be the

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<v Speaker 4>Relyve on CAFI.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing the news presidential debate simulcast right here on

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<v Speaker 2>kf I AM six forty. All right, let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>Mo Kelly and Mark Thompson. Somebody emailed us here with

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<v Speaker 2>the question for the two fellas, if there was a

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<v Speaker 2>full primary this year, do you think the nominee would

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<v Speaker 2>be Kamala Harris Well Kelly?

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly, not definitely, but the full primary doesn't really make

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<v Speaker 3>any difference.

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<v Speaker 4>People sometimes forget that the primary is not required.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of parties like the Green Party,

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<v Speaker 3>Libertarian Party. They go to a hotel, have an orgy,

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<v Speaker 3>come out, here's our nominee, Jill Stein. You know that's

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<v Speaker 3>a better convention, But I'm saying many times it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a weekend get together. And we didn't have full primaries

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<v Speaker 3>of all fifty states until the nineteen seventies, so people

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes forget that they're not necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Thompson tell me something I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that is a strong man argument, the idea

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<v Speaker 5>somehow that the primary didn't yield this candidate, somehow she

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<v Speaker 5>weaker because she wasn't tested by the primaries. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>she would still have gone into any kind of the primary.

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<v Speaker 4>As the vice president.

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<v Speaker 5>She probably would have had a lot of half from

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<v Speaker 5>the Democratic Party behind her.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrong, Patti Pipe.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so we're gonna see the debate starts night

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<v Speaker 2>at six o'clock. There's some weird rules about this debate.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't bring any notes with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they'll let you bring with you a pad and

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<v Speaker 5>a writing implement, so in other words, they'll be taking notes,

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<v Speaker 5>but they're not allowed to bring notes, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's also I think I read somewhere where both

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<v Speaker 2>both podiums have to be the same, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>she can't be on a riser, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And the visual mo I thought was really really weak

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<v Speaker 5>when she sat down to an interview with Walls, and

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<v Speaker 5>on the CNN interview she looked tiny because of the

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<v Speaker 5>camera angle. And I'm not saying that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how man people noticed it, but on the

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<v Speaker 5>three shot it was really claring.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is an interesting point if you're a student

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<v Speaker 3>of history. And I know Mark you know this, and

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<v Speaker 3>Tim you know this, But the visuals matter. Going back

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<v Speaker 3>to Nixon, and Kennedy and how Nixon was sweating during

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<v Speaker 3>the televised portion debate. But if you listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>debate on the radio, you thought that Nixon won, but

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<v Speaker 3>televivision made it look like he lost because he looked

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<v Speaker 3>flustered and overheating.

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<v Speaker 4>So the visuals do matter. And the debate is literally in.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it'll start around in ten minutes from now,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just moments away, the presidential debate around fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>around ten minutes or so away. Both candidates have arrived

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<v Speaker 2>in Philadelphia. Their campaign surrogates are already on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>providing spin already, and the spin room afterwards.

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<v Speaker 5>You saw who's a providing spin, didn't you, Tim, No,

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<v Speaker 5>it's among I think Newsham is one person providing spin.

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<v Speaker 5>But on the GOP side, RFK Junior is providing. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a big trumpet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now do you know, did you see there's a fundraiser

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<v Speaker 2>going on in California for Donald Trump and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>raise you know, a couple million.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars or so.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who's the head of the head of

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<v Speaker 2>that fundraiser. It's it's Gavin Newsom's wife's family.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, that's crazy. They're big Republicans. Yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>got to irritate him, that really does.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, and they're going for big money in Woodside,

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<v Speaker 5>which is just south of San Francisco. It's like where

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<v Speaker 5>all these streets are paved with gold type thing. They're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna they'll get sacks of money out of that place.

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<v Speaker 4>That is so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right, the the weird association to the Newsom family.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is odd.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think that, you know, because of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how how close the you know, what a powerful figure

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<v Speaker 2>he is in the Democratic Party, that maybe the wife

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<v Speaker 2>would lay off.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's the wife's relative, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The wife's right, the wife's relative, but she might be

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<v Speaker 2>able to say, hey, look I married to the governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you mind chilling out? That's you know, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. So it's gonna be a ninety minute debate.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be two breaks, and ABC, thank god, is

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<v Speaker 2>allowing all the television networks to simulcast the debate, so

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<v Speaker 2>you see it on you know, any number of TV stations,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'll only hear it here on KFI. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna run anything else tonight between six and seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that debate, and so you're gonna be here

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<v Speaker 2>it right here on k on KFI and then Moe

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly will be around. I will be home by then,

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm just thinking about the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Chris Christie coached him in that debate. Again,

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<v Speaker 5>Remember he was the Chris You got to get up

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<v Speaker 5>to talk right over him.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he's a he's got problems with the way he speaks,

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<v Speaker 5>and it'll throw him off his game. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know that that was the most successful. So I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 5>what advice Donald Trump is getting right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I don't know him, never met him, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have a feeling he ignores a lot of advice, a

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<v Speaker 4>Thrown his way and he's like, screw it, I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>But closing statements was a coin toss, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>held virtually on September third, with the candidate who won

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<v Speaker 2>statements or podium placement. Trump won the coin toss and

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<v Speaker 2>chose to select the other the order of statements. So

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<v Speaker 2>the former president chose to offer the last closing statement,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what you want, yes, and then the podium

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<v Speaker 2>placement then would have been Kamala Harris's decision. And so

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<v Speaker 2>after the coin toss, Harris was allowed to choose the

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<v Speaker 2>podium placement. So when you see her tonight, she chose

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<v Speaker 5>Right, I mean, I think again, of less significance, the

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<v Speaker 5>closing statement is a real big win.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to be the last You always want to

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we are gonna ski daddle, but I know Moe

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly is going to be sitting here. We'll I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here until seven and then you know, in case

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big earthquake or anything that goes on, but

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be from six to seven thirty will be the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the ABC Presidential Debate, simcast right here on KFIM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty and then a wrap up at seven thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>including your whole your whole crew thing do wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>We are moments away from this big, huge ass debate.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be wild tonight. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be more people that watch this debate

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<v Speaker 2>than the Biden debate, the Biden drum debate. Absolutely agree,

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<v Speaker 2>and that there was fifty million people who saw that debate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean those are you know, approaching you know, half

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<v Speaker 2>even bigger. All right, and then there's only going to

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<v Speaker 4>We mostly chit chat.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be interesting to see, and it's happening in moments,

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<v Speaker 2>moments from now. And I know, if you're big into politics,

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<v Speaker 2>you're very nervous. If you're a Trump lover, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Maga guy, you're very nervous. If you love Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>you're very nervous for her. But I think most people,

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<v Speaker 2>they say thirty percent of the people watching tonight will

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<v Speaker 2>decide who to vote for based on the performance tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>which is utterly insane, but all right, yeah, have but

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent, that's a significant number.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think it's that's a Probably that's amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 5>That's isn't it amazing to you? Mo that thirty percent

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<v Speaker 5>of the people still haven't decided to the point that

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just don't believe them. I'm mine. I think

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<v Speaker 4>right well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people ignore politics. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we don't hear a KFI. But if you go

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's more that they've made their decision and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe thirty percent of peace people are open to being

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<v Speaker 3>that might be persuaded.

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<v Speaker 4>Possibly that might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, we're gonna get out of here. The debate

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<v Speaker 2>happening shortly right here. It's the ABC News presidential debate

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<v Speaker 2>simulcast here on kf I A M. Six forty Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see you. You're gonna walk, You're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>this up right, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to go, Oh yeah, I'm not doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything, has nothing to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to say that this is KFI and

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, excellent, Okay, No, we will, I definitely will talk

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<v Speaker 2>this up right up to the you know, to the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the hour when the debate starts. But ABC,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ABC is paying for all of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>when we say the ABC News presidential debate simulcast right

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<v Speaker 2>here on kf I AM six forty. But Mark Thompson

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<v Speaker 2>noticed we were watching CNN earlier and CNN was calling

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<v Speaker 2>it the CNN debate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they said that, They said the debate on CNN.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the way they put yeah, right on CNN. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but there was no reference to ABC anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And as I'm watching NBC, they're kind of doing the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing Canada's face off in first debate NBC News.

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<v Speaker 5>You see the NBC News logo. There is no ABC

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<v Speaker 5>News logo anywhere. Now, when they get to the actual debate,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who else is not putting ABC News

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<v Speaker 2>debate on their channel?

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<v Speaker 4>ABC? You think they would throw it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But why do you think moment, let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then maybe Mark and Chiman as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Why you know, back in the old days.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking even like four years ago, there was

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I think this actually works against former President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris in this instance.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he really play to the room. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 5>what Trump does. He'll even change his positions on major

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<v Speaker 5>policy based on the room. He'll really modify a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of what he says to get the room. And so

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<v Speaker 5>not having the room or having the room empty, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a net loss for Trump that way.

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<v Speaker 2>If this debate does not go well for Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>or does not go well for Donald Trump, you think

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be a second or a third before the election.

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it. It's such a short time, don't you think, Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>It's so comported. Look, we're halfway through September fall.

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<v Speaker 3>Intents and purposes, they had to do a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think regardless of the outcome, there won't be

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<v Speaker 3>a second debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't think so. Now, how about this.

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<v Speaker 2>If Kamala Harris doesn't do well tonight, Let's say she,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, passes out halfway through it, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>they replace her on the ticket?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that ship has sailed, you know, debate.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the debate is going to start momentarily and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have it live here. ABC is running it,

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<v Speaker 2>and again ABC deserves a lot of credit. They're paying

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<v Speaker 2>They flew all their people down there to broadcast this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And CNN got pissed off last time because CNN ratings

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<v Speaker 2>weren't as high as Fox on that last debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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