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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest
today is one of the fastest rising girl girl performers
in the industry. In just seven months, she's gone from
her Valentine's Day debut to working with some of the
biggest names in adults. A proud lesbian who only works
with women, she's built a reputation for authenticity, passion, and
incredible on screen chemistry. We'll talk about how she got
started which she's learned so far and where she wants
to go from here.
Speaker 3: Please welcome Ophelia A Hi, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: For having me. I'm like, it's crazy that I'm here
right now.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, well, I'm very excited to have you here.
I also want to say, I mean, I know, like
we know each other, but I love your name.
Speaker 3: I love the name Ophelia.
Speaker 1: It's not one that I've heard like every name in
the porn industry, but Ophelia is a name that is
not common and I love it, Like what inspired you
to pick that name?
Speaker 5: So I originally, like when I was just getting started,
was looking at some like alternative modeling things that for
those you're supposed to have a different stage name sort
of too, and they liked those to be a little
bit more out there. So I was going to be
floor for that, and then I knew, like the whole alliteration.
Speaker 3: Thing was a thing.
Speaker 5: But then when they came the time came around for
me to get started here, my agent was like, you
need a more namey name, and I knew that I
wanted to stick with some sort of f sound. Knew
too many fionas Phoebe didn't feel quite right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, went with Ophelia.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about who you were, what you were
doing before you started in the industry, and what led
you to decide to be a part of our wonderful world.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: So I have always been an artist, and I've always
been really passionate about sexuality, like to a point where
my interest in like sex and attraction and sex work
even like predated me having an actual libido of my own.
Speaker 4: My mom was.
Speaker 5: Talking to me earlier today about how she remembered when
I was really young, being like, women should be able
to do whatever they want as long as they like
doing it, why should anyone police it?
Speaker 4: Just like going on this tirade. I do not have.
Speaker 5: Any hormones in my body yet, any sort of drive,
So I always just kind of polled in that direction.
But I knew that it wasn't the thing that you're
supposed to traditionally aspire to, so I kind of repressed
it down while like consuming all the media and all
the things and majoring and sexuality studies and all of that.
Speaker 4: But I did.
Speaker 5: Went through college, got my associates, got my bachelor's, did
six years in corporate and kind of had the like
the cliche adult industry horror story with my corporate path
where I got started right.
Speaker 4: When I turned eighteen.
Speaker 5: It escalated way faster than what I was prepared for,
but the money was good, so I stuck with it
until they like treated me poorly, kicked me the curb
over and over again. So I was laid off by
my last corporate job the Tuesday after Thanksgiving at nine pm.
And so, yeah, doesn't mean that it's any more of
a stable career just because it's salaried.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's so fun and it makes me so crazy.
Speaker 1: And I know that you've had issues with this, as
almost every sex worker has. Is that banks, Yeah, credit
card companies, insurance, Like I've been denied credit. I've been
denied insurance because we sex work. Yeah, high risk industries.
But like you just said, like I have found that
actually sex work is people work in sex work generally
have a lot more stable income than people who work
salary drugs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because like now I can make do where before
I would have to just troll LinkedIn and like maybe
do like some sort of minimum wage job. But then
you don't have time to troll LinkedIn so I was
trolling LinkedIn and the fires happened, and I live like
pretty close to one of the areas that was affected
by it. So I stayed with my parents for a
while and was kind of just having my like mid
twenties crisis.
Speaker 4: What have I done with my life?
Speaker 5: I've wasted my youth in this environment that I hate,
and I start I got the idea, just as a
side hustle, to sell some of the art modeling collabs
that I've done with photographers on the Playboy app because
that was the one that I felt like you could
get away with while still working and marketing her sales.
And so I started doing that, and I started my
new Instagram account for that and posting reels on there,
and then pretty early on someone.
Speaker 4: That was working with x Suite actually found me.
Speaker 5: And I was familiar with you because you were one
of the sources of media that I voraciously consumed because
I was so interested in this industry, and I knew, like,
holy crap, there's not going to be a better opportunity
than this. I also knew that that would involve me
attending a red carpet on February eleventh, as you alluded to,
I didn't even shoot anything until the fourteenth, So I
was going to be known for being an adult before
I even started being an adult. So it was way
too good of an opportunity and way too visible of
one to be subtle about. So basically, I got word
of that party on the eighth, spent a couple of
days just like really thinking on like, is this how
I'm going to spend the next thirty plus years of
my life? And I decided yes, And I wrote a
four page thing to my parents, sends it over to them,
nuke to my personal Instagram down to like two hundred people,
put a message on there. Here's why I don't have
a profile picture anymore in my accounts private. If you
don't like it, you can unfollow, and yeah, I just
fully sent it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Wow, So you this is actually kind of remarkable because
most people jump into porn they don't tell anybody. And
I mean, I can't tell you how many girls I've
talked to who think that they can like skate by
and people won't find out. We'll come on this podcast
and they'll be like, oh yeah, like my parents don't know,
and I'll be like, girl, they're going to know now, yeah, like, no,
they won't know, and I'll be like, yeah, they will,
and then after this podcast they'll call me to be like, yeah,
my parents saw your podcast and they found out. Like
I told you that they would find out. It's not
that I think everybody watches it, but someone's going to watch.
It's going to tell somebody else. It's going to tell
somebody else. It's going to get back to them. But
you like really took the initiative and before even did
your first scene, you told your parents.
Speaker 3: So how did they take it?
Speaker 5: They took it astoundingly well, Like I sent the initial
email to them out a friend's house because I knew
if I called them then I would be flustered and
then it would sound like a less educated decision than
it was. But she had been my friend since we
were babies, our parents were roommates in college, and so
she knew obviously me really well, loved me, and also
knows my mom really well. And we were like, Okay,
eventually she's going to have merch that says I love
my porn star daughter. It's a matter of when in
the time line we get to that point.
Speaker 1: I feel like this march needs to be made and
we need to start a business with this, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah I can. I can give.
Speaker 3: Someone by the your or any by the view RL.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, my mom can be the figure behind it.
Speaker 4: I'm an artist. Let's go.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so we knew that that was going to
be where things initially were just a matter of how
long it took. My mom calls me right after and
she's like, I'm not mad. Like there was like the
like initial surprise, but she wasn't on a deep level
surprised because she was like, I always knew that you
were meant to work in something sex related like that
always made the most sense. I didn't necessarily think it
was going to be literal sex work, but like it
checks out. The one thing was that they wanted to
make sure I wasn't doing straight for pye because at
the end of the day, they want me to do
what I'm passionate about and what makes me happy and
having sex.
Speaker 4: Men would do neither of those things.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Just to make sure that you're not doing men and
you're only doing women.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they knew that that would be a bad
path for me, like from a mental health perspective. If
I was into guys, I don't think that would even
be an issue. But yeah, they I think were a
little nervous in the beginning, but like I sent them
media to like get an understanding of it. And because
I have between my between a lot of luck and
also my own merits had some pretty cool milestones pretty
early on. I think that that's also made them like
they knew that it was good for me, and then
I'm showing like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this is where I'm meant to be.
Speaker 5: But yeah, they always they want me to be happy,
They want me to do something that I care about,
and they know that that this is what that is.
Speaker 1: I love that one of the reels that you have
pinned to your Instagram page is about it's kind of
a clap back to the people who that.
Speaker 3: Comment that we see so frequently.
Speaker 1: Which is your father shamed you and it's a letter
from your father's and how proud he is of you.
Speaker 3: Right, Can you tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I that was my very first response that
I got from my dad about getting in the industry.
So again from the jump, no no processing time. He
was in jury duty when I sent it. So my
mom let me know that that's why he was going dark.
But from the moment he got out of jury duty,
that was his immediate reaction, that degree of support and
that understanding that like, no, this is something that I
take seriously and that I want to make an impact
with and yeah, that's all that they ever wanted me
to do. And so I knew that I had that
message from him, and obviously I was touched. Like once
once the initial like overwhelm of emotion past, I had
this thought like I am waiting for the day that
I get a fatherless behavior.
Speaker 3: Comment, and has it come?
Speaker 4: Yes, it came.
Speaker 3: I got that.
Speaker 5: I got the like, oh, your your dad must be proud,
and yes he is, and there's empirical proof of it
all myxact.
Speaker 3: When you know you've made it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Which also it's a silly thing because I'm a twenty
five year old, grown adult woman, so like, it doesn't
matter what my parents think, and why is it always
my dad and not my mom?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, yeah, it's always the d Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's always it's always the dad, it's never the mom.
And also I am not a child. Yeah, so I
could not be more deeply grateful that my parents are supportive.
But also if someone's parents aren't, that doesn't mean it's
a bad decision for them. Yeah, like that's why they're
in it. Yeah, that could be totally unrelated.
Speaker 1: I do find though, like, from all the people I've
spoken to, I feel like the ones that have the
best experience an adult and have like a really good
balance in terms of like mental health are the ones
that have support from their families.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's really hard.
Speaker 1: I think when people have families that like turn their
backs on them because they get in the industry, and
I've seen that happen and it's really heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why, like I want to share the love
with people Like I I've just been so busy with
work that it's been a few months since have been
able to see my parents, But like.
Speaker 4: I want them to get to know all my porn friends.
Speaker 5: Like they loved taking strays for Thanksgiving and stuff away
before I was in a field where you were likely
to have a lot more strays around the holidays, So
goodness for you, you're probably gonna get some.
Speaker 4: More of those.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they are so lovely and they are like
so open and accepting, like, not just to me, of
just anyone in the industry that they, yeah, if I
have this great support system, night a hog at all.
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sponsoring the podcast. Okay, so Aphelia, your first ever porn
scene was filmed on Valentine's Day? Was that just a
coincidence or did you plan that that was just a
coincidence that was booked for me.
Speaker 5: I got the thing February fourteenth from my agent and
I was like, this must be in a good omen
Like out of all the days together started. That felt
like a good sign. Yeah, and yeah, it was a
great scene.
Speaker 4: It was with Amber Moore.
Speaker 5: She's by and I'm super grateful that my first scene
was with a fellow queer lady.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I it.
Speaker 5: The set was super professional, everyone was super friendly. I
had great chemistry with her. It was a great time overall,
and it felt really natural right away.
Speaker 3: What brand was it for?
Speaker 1: It was a four x cog girls Okay, yeah, and
then so what was what were you expecting going on
to set or did you not know what to expect
and what was Was there anything that was surprising to you?
Speaker 5: So I kind of knew what to expect because I
had watched so many podcasts and read so many articles
and everything beforehand. When it came to the fact that,
oh no, this is a professional environment and it's not
going to be some scary, exploitative thing because I'm with
someone who's booking me an official capacity. So I didn't
have any misconceptions about that, and I always felt confident
about myself as a performer. I wouldn't have made the
leap if I didn't have that confidence. But I thought
I would be more nervous my first time. Oh really,
I yeah, I felt really comfortable really quickly.
Speaker 4: And I didn't know how much I would like the camera.
Speaker 5: Because I realized that for me there is an exhibitionism
element to it, but for me it's more about it
being a project. So like, the higher production value something is,
the more I get off on the camera.
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, I was gonna ask you, like, did
you have a hard time, like having sex and being
aware of the camera, because you know what I mean,
Like sometimes girls get lost in the sex and they
forget that they actually have to perform and what we
say is open up to the camera.
Speaker 3: Did you struggle with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if I looked back at
the foot at it now, I would have areas that
I'd want to improve. But I think having a modeling
background and then also having a hypermobility disorder also helps
because a lot of the like open up for the
camera positions are not that weird for me because, like I,
I can go into a full split and not really
feel it, So opening my hips extra wide and a
partial straddle isn't isn't anything that crazy for me.
Speaker 4: The one thing I had to learn is to.
Speaker 5: Not dive in all the way immediately when I'm going
down on a girl that like I have to do
like the the long tongue distance thing for a bit,
but usually directors let me do my thing fully by
the time that we're really getting into it. But you
at least got to get that initial initial shot.
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned your hypermobility, and you are very athletic,
You're you're a competitive swimmer or I mean water polo. Yes,
and you love yoga and you're insanely flexible. So do
you feel like this athletic background has helped you as
a performer? And do you ever I mean, I have
found that directors when they find a girl is super flexible, Yeah,
they're like, reposition must be insane. Yeah, like do you
run into that?
Speaker 3: And is it sometimes like kind of annoying?
Speaker 4: I don't mind it.
Speaker 5: I think it's fun because again, it's not a strain
on my body, right, But I definitely think that it
helps to be athletic in one capacity or another. That's
one of the things that I really love about it
is that there have been times in my life where
I wanted to be a professional athlete and times where
I wanted to be a professional artist, and now I.
Speaker 4: Kind of get to be both.
Speaker 5: But yeah, with my Slade scene, for example, when we
were going over the kind of yes and nos, that's
always when I let the directors know it. Also, I'm
wildly flexible, and he was like, okay, good to know.
And I like mentioned in passing, yeah, I can put
both of my feet behind my head. And KGV was
the director. He's like, okay, so we're going to do that.
That's like a gold mine press. We're like, so, so yeah, definitely, Like, yeah,
it's something unique that I can bring to the table.
Speaker 4: So I love, I love any opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about your slave scene,
because that only just came out recently, and I know
that's something that we've really been waiting to come out
because you shout it a little while ago and it
looked so great. Yea, So tell us a little bit
about it. Who was with it looked like the experience yea.
Speaker 5: So I yeah, it was one of my earlier scenes,
so I was nervous that it would still hold up,
which I feel like it does. But it was with
Ashley Alexander, and it was kind of spy themed, so
sort of James Bond vibes. I had this like gold
leather Madonna type cone boob biki for my pretty girls.
But the whole promise was, oh, we just did whatever
heist and there was the glass dildo in there, so
time to go fuck, which very fun, very cute little
porn logic.
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I love the glam thing. I love the
cinematic thing.
Speaker 5: I think that as a found and woman who's into
feminine women, it's just like the height of everything that
I want to do of Okay, I'm going to get
as dulled up as possible and be with a girl.
Speaker 4: It's also that way, and we're going to have.
Speaker 5: Amazing, crazy, freaky sex with beautiful camera work and yeah,
just have a great time. So it was magical. Everyone
on that set was so lovely. I'm so happy I
got to go in their pool because I'm a fish
and anytime to get into the water, I will take it,
and that pool is stunning. So yeah, I could not
have asked for a better hopefully first and many times
a slide.
Speaker 1: Was there any dialogue in that scene or was it
all just like cinematic getting into it?
Speaker 5: It was all the like cinematic getting into it, okay,
Which I also learned from that when I was making
my own independent content. Now that I have a creative partner,
Salida si Erto, that I work with pretty consistently for
my independent projects, we kind of use that as an
example of, oh, like, you can use the looks to
tell the story and sometimes add in a script, sometimes
add in just some establishing shots, but to give sort
of a context. I like to make the outfits match
with the sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But you also you enjoyed doing the acting though as
well too, because actually, I think I forgot to tell you,
and I didn't send it to you, but Quasar sent
me a clip of you doing the beginning of your
scene with Lana, and he was like, she, she's great
in this, and you were, We're very authentic.
Speaker 3: That's a great actress, because I had thething you do
that before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that it was kind of
a natural role for me to go into. I was
the lead in my fifth grade musical if that counts
for anything. That's kind of the extent of my acting background.
But yeah, I had such a great time and filming
that I've done a few.
Speaker 4: Projects of my own that has scripts.
Speaker 5: I would love, love, love to do a feature, whether
that's as a supporting character one day as the lead
once I'm ready for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to do everything in anything.
Speaker 3: And then you also just had a shoot come out
with Playboy.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was a big pinch me moment.
Speaker 5: It was also the first thing that I could share
with my parents that they fully understood because they don't
watch porn.
Speaker 4: So, which I mean is nice now especial brought to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they so whenever I would have these other
big milestones, it would be like, oh, yeah, I just
had this happen.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited, this is what this means.
Speaker 5: And they were still thrilled for me, of course, but
they know what Playboy is. Yeah, Like Playboy is so
iconic and it's so mainstream that that was the first
thing where I was able to share there like, oh shit.
Speaker 4: She's doing Playwood. Yeah, so that was really fun too.
Speaker 5: And I again, everyone that I've met has been so lovely.
Like I sound like a broken record, but every person
on set that I've worked with has been so great.
It's like everything that I love about creatives, but without
the pretentiousness that comes with a lot of creative fields
that are an adult.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of the great things about adult
and I've I mean to sound like a broken record.
I said this so many times, is that I love
you know, what keeps me important is really the people.
Speaker 3: And I think that exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: There's a real lack of pretentiousness in our industry, and
I think there's something about first of all, being like
the black sheep of the ntayment industry. There's a kind
of us against them mentality because we are stigmatized so much,
but also the vulnerability of doing what you do. Yeah,
when you take all your clothes off and you show
like everything to the world, it's kind kind of like
what else have you got to hide? And I think
that translates into the personality as well. And I have
found that porn stars are some of the most like
authentic and down to earth people. When I was shooting
for Playboy a lot, I would shoot fashion models for them.
Sometimes I would shoot Playboy playmates for them, and I
would shoot porn stars, and by far I preferred shooting
porn stars. I would sometimes and not always, but yeah, sometimes,
like the fashion models and like the Playboy playmates were
like they were let's just say they were different. They
were different to work with. And I was just like, Wow,
I really prefer porn stars and like, and I've also,
oh my gods, a shot a reality show celebrity Wants
for a Playboy Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: It was the worst experience.
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, porn stars only please,
please God.
Speaker 3: I do not want to shoot celebrities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: They're great people, really are. So many people talk about
a learning curve when they start. Was there any particular
lesson or piece of advice from these first few months
in the industry that you would want to pass along
to anybody else who's considering getting into porn.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that, especially.
Speaker 5: When you're getting started, Like there're a lot of times
the things that look for new girls, they want to
do things that are maybe pushing on the edges of
their boundaries. And I think that it's not in the
way that it used to be where it's like, oh,
you got to do this thing.
Speaker 4: It's more of like, oh my god, it'd be so
great if you did this thing. But if you're young or.
Speaker 5: Just getting started, you might think that you need to
do that even though no one's explicitly asking you. So
what I've found has been really helpful for me when
I've been in those situations is just.
Speaker 4: To know what unique thing that I can bring to
the table.
Speaker 5: So and it's never just in now, oh it's a
no butt, so like I'm not doing boy girl, but
I bring it for a girl girl, or like I'm
not doing insert whatever thing here, but I have a
modeling background like that sort of thing. So I think
even if you're not directly saying the butt to directors,
producers whoever, just know, I get in the back of
your head. So you have a reason to have some
extra confidence behind your boundaries.
Speaker 1: You don't do this thing, but you bring value. Yeah anyways, yeah, yeah,
even though you don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's also hard too because a lot of
girls do get into the industry young. You're twenty four
when you got in, right, because you're just turned twenty five. Yeah,
And also you worked a corporate job with you said, like,
you worked in the real world and you had a
real job, and you went to college and you did
all the things that I think helped you learn about
life and you know, live, And I think sometimes when
you just into it straight out of school, it's hard
to establish boundaries.
Speaker 3: It's hard to establish boundaries as anyways.
Speaker 5: I mean also, like even outside of the sex work
aspect to it, if you're going straight from high school
to being a CEO, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, like.
Speaker 5: That's a big part of it too, Like becid Like
for me personally, I would not have been good to
start at eighteen, also because I thought it was straight.
But I wasn't ready to run a media company at eighteen.
So I think that that's another part of it too,
where we all focus on the sex part of it,
but it's like, no, are you ready to be a
business owner like at your age? And some people probably are, but.
Speaker 1: I know in my case, I wouldn't have been so
elaborate on that because I think what you're suggesting is
that being a point star is more than just having
sex with people.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Yes, Actually, the majority of my days is spent doing
admin work, getting various things queued up, setting a pointments,
delegating like certain tasks off to people, like the same
sort of the same sort of planning and thought process
as any other entrepreneur you're doing with your porn because everyone,
regardless of whether you shoot SUITI or all that, your
main income is probably your fan sites, and you're the
one that's in charge of how those get run.
Speaker 4: And I remember even.
Speaker 5: A while back, I was talking to one of my
friends and he was he's getting started with a tech startup,
and we were having a conversation about sort of our
long term plans and for me, it was different milestones
that I wanted to pace out in a certain way
or have them go however, I'm hoping.
Speaker 4: They do eventually.
Speaker 5: And he had the same sort of thing with investors
that we were meeting with, and we were having this conversation.
We were like, we're talking about the exact same thing
right now. It's just that you're talking about apartments and
I'm talking about my pussy. But like fully, the same
exact conversation and difficulties that anyone runs into. So I
think that that's the biggest thing that I think probably
gets thrown under the radar for girls when they're starting out.
It's like, are you ready to build a brand that
is going to last decades?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think what a lot of people
don't realize is you are an independent contractor and you
are your own boss, and especially with fan sites and
a lot of people making their income off of it,
Like you said, that is entirely up to you as
to how that goes. And you have to market yourself
and it is harder now than it was before, and
it's hard to get that traction, and you know, you
have to be consistent and you have to. I mean,
I can't tell you how many girls come into the
industry and don't realize that they have to pay taxes.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, like I just
stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And it also drives me crazy that they don't teach
you this shit in school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really should, like they really should. Like why
don't we teach finance fuck in high school?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't we teach people about like balancing your checkbook,
paying your taxes, like you know, IRA's like retirement.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, let's teach them homech wood shop. Yeah, like, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, those are some more practical than Yeah, I know,
but yes, yeah, like like that would definitely have gotten
me a lot farther than the pre calculus that I
was too dyslexic to accomplish.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, people, I remember my little sister,
she got a credit card right out of high school,
completely ran up the debt.
Speaker 3: She didn't realize that she had to pay it off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she thought it was just free money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, that's just that's just I mean,
don't get me started on the education system in this country.
That's a whole other rant. Okay, So let's talk about
your sexuality. Yes, so you identify as a lesbian and
work exclusively in girl girl content. When did you know
that you only liked women? And was it hard to
come to that conclusion.
Speaker 5: I've joked about this with my friends before. The classic
thing is like gay guys. It's always like, oh, I
knew when I was three years old, every girl at
least in my generation, especially two decades and a boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Like it's the classic thing.
Speaker 5: Because I could wax philosophical for a really long time
about the way that women are.
Speaker 4: Expected to act with men in a patriarch chep blah
blah blah.
Speaker 5: But the long story short is there are a lot
of social things that just make you assume that every
woman feels this way or that certain red flags don't
mean that you're not into men. But I was when
I was really young. I probably what would have been
considered out Like I remember crushes that I had on
girls when I was like three. But I moved to
a suburb when I was in middle school that was
a less accepting area. It was like still California, so
it was like okay, like more liberal, but it was
like the gay boys got to hang out with the
popular girls. But like if you were a girl that
like girls, that was really weird and gross and icky.
So I think that I like actively went into the
closet at eleven and then successfully convinced myself that I
was straight by around thirteen fourteen, and I had no
one else foled, but I had myself fulled until like
once I was in college, I started opening myself up
more to experimenting with women.
Speaker 4: Of course, men were the experiment.
Speaker 5: In hindsight, but I realized like, Okay, yeah, this is
this is a lot more fun. And then I tried
to date a guy and it did not work out,
and that made me realize, like, oh, something's very wrong here,
Like on like a fundamental soul level, I realized that
some of the things that I was experiencing during sex
with men were probably not what.
Speaker 4: What should be happening either.
Speaker 5: Like I was like, damn, if I just like hooked
up with a few of my guy friends who were
like better, more attentive dudes, it probably could have saved
me so much trouble because like if my like eyes
were tight shut, or I was staring at the wall
whole time and I was just making noises if.
Speaker 4: I haven't have been like, what's up?
Speaker 3: But what's going on here?
Speaker 6: I feel you?
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think kind of the more experiences that
I had with women, and the more that I tried
to really make it work with a man, just that contrast,
because we were open at the time too, that that
contrast just got more and more clear.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like maybe it was like normal for
you not to enjoy sex with a man. Yes, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4: No one, no one hates on men more than straight women. Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 5: Where people got the man hating lesbian thing because straight
women are so like men way more. Yeah like that, Yeah,
that was a big part of it, Like the way
that like I thought, oh, yeah, it's normal to be
dry when you see a dick because straight women.
Speaker 4: Talk about how dicks are gross. But then I find out,
oh wait, no, they actually do like them.
Speaker 3: Yeah what told me this?
Speaker 5: Like I think that, Yeah, the purity culture thing is
a big part of it, because that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that if like I was in an environment
where straight women were able to be more unapologetic about
what they liked, then I would have realized, oh, that's pretty.
Speaker 4: Different from what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that comes down to the
fact that women are not taught to communicate what they
like and that they're just supposed to please men. Yeah,
And so of course they don't like sex because they
don't tell guys that they like. Yeah, and men how
can they read minds? Yeah, And so we don't talk
to each other, and so nobody knows what the other
person likes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I think that I also because I am naturally
expressive with my sexuality, and I think that my sexuality
and spirituality are pretty tied together. There was a part
of myself that I did want to give to the world.
But when I was younger, I didn't understand that that
didn't mean that I wanted to sleep without all of
those people. I was like mistaking my desire to like
share this thing that I have as attraction and it wasn't.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, No, I.
Speaker 5: Was meant for those people to enjoy watching me on
camera having sex with people I'm actually into.
Speaker 3: Ah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is gonna be kind of funny,
espially since you've met her.
Speaker 3: But what you just said kind of reminds me of.
Speaker 1: My mom, because my mom used to go to orgies
and she used to go and have sex with the
ugliest people at the orgies because she felt bad for them.
Oh no, And she would call herself like this goddess
of love, and she had this idea that like it
was her duty to like be love to people and
like be generous with her love. And yeah, I think
it was also kind of a narcissistic thing where it's
like she felt like she was like gifting you, Oh,
I'm going to give you this great gift of me. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I ever had like the full
like I will bestow myself upon the but.
Speaker 3: Which has I think that my mother belts.
Speaker 4: But I think on.
Speaker 5: Like a like on a lighter level, it's probably like
the same thing where it was like, oh no, like
this is something that I was always meant to share,
not in the literal hands on way that I was
trying at first.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so now you're sharing it with the world,
just in a different way.
Speaker 3: Got it now, of course.
Speaker 1: And when you entered the industry, you've you know, you're
a lesbian, you're aware of your sexuality, and you choose
to work only with women, which isn't always the case
with lesbians. There's a lot of girls that I know
that come into the industry that are only interested in women,
but they work with men because they feel like, you know,
they if they don't work with men, they won't get work,
They won't get jobs. So did you find it difficult
to come into the industr with a girl girl only objective?
Speaker 3: And have you found it hard to stick to that?
Speaker 4: It was scarier? And I think it is still a
slower start.
Speaker 5: Like I think that a performer who was doing guys,
who was hitting the same milestones that I'm at right now,
would probably be making a lot more money than me.
Like it is a slower on ramp, and it has
to be Like that's where having the support from my
family has been really key, and like I know that
I can stick to my guns because they see this
as a legitimate career that takes time to build up with.
But I knew that for me personally, it was more
than just like a oh, I'm not really that into
this thing. I knew that, like, oh I feel bad
after I have sex with guys. Yeah, And so like
not all lesbian's field that way. Some people it's just
like not my thing, but I can do it for
the camera and I don't mind, which is just as valid.
Speaker 4: But that wasn't me.
Speaker 5: And so I knew that I wanted to have a
long career, and I knew that would mean a slower
career in some ways.
Speaker 4: Mainly it's slower financially.
Speaker 5: Because because I've been able to move fast in what's
seen publicly in a lot of ways. But yeah, I
think the other thing too is I realized that, oh,
I have to really lean into my independent content because
there are only so many bookings that are girl girl.
But at the same time, the girl girl fan base
is super loyal and they are hungry for more content,
and all these girl girl sites, a lot of them
are getting like less and less frequent with their postings,
so there is at the same time that it there's.
Speaker 4: Less work, there's also a bigger void.
Speaker 5: So I think that the fact that I'm so unambiguously
lesbian that I don't try to pretend like guys, I think.
Speaker 4: That helps me.
Speaker 5: Because they know that they're getting the real experience. I
think that, like, I think it would be really hard
to be a girl girl only gay for pay performer,
right now, I think that the only reason it's sustainable
for me is because of how into women I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're right, there are a ton of girl
girl only performers, or at least maybe not so many now,
but back in the day there was more because it
was more taboo to do boy girl back then than
it is now. But they were because they had a
boyfriend who didn't want them to do guys, and so
they would only do girl girl because that was acceptable
to their boyfriend or they thought that it would not
limit their dating possibilities as much. So that was super common,
but they did not like girls. They only did that because, well,
these are the sex scenes I can do, and still
they got Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that that's also another thing that I had
to get over or the hump of as a performer.
When it came to studios seeing me and they see
girl girl only. They don't know that that's because I'm
a flaming lesbian. They might think that it's because I'm
trying to do the thing that's the least stigmatized and
that shows up really differently on camera. Yeah, So I
think that I had to make a name for myself
about who I am in order to get that respect
from studios to take their chances on me and know
that I wasn't limiting myself in a way that was
just phoning it in.
Speaker 1: Have you worked with any girls that are quote unquote
gay for pay and how do you manage that?
Speaker 5: Because I also have shot like with a lot of
new girls A lot of times, it's not that different
because they're just nervous either way. Yeah, and I've noticed
that they've commented on it being a positive experience, mainly
because I'm friendly and attentive. I think it's harder to
do straight for paydayer pay as a woman. Even straight
women are like, oh, but I wish I'd liked women.
They're so soft and they smell good, like you never
hear a lesbian talk that way about I mean, I
think I've worked with performers who maybe they have a
ton of fun having sex with women as a thing
for fun, but they don't necessarily view it as.
Speaker 4: Erotic necessarily as I do.
Speaker 5: They don't have that same degree of connection, but it's
enough for them to have a great time, so that
can be the good. Obviously, my preference is to work
with queer women, and I yeah, when I work with
fully straight girls. I just let them know, like, hey,
I want you to have the best experience that you can, whether.
Speaker 4: That means you.
Speaker 5: Are having a blast here or you just know that
we're getting something really great that you can be proud of.
Speaker 4: That is really just a studio.
Speaker 5: I do make sure that with anything that I'm shooting
myself the women and like women.
Speaker 1: Are there any misconceptions about lesbian sexuality in adult films
that you've encountered and you want to clear up? Like,
for example, you once joked on X about people doubting
lesbians even enjoy penetration, and you said, heaven forbid a
girl who's not into dick actually have a G spot. Yes.
Speaker 5: So I was thinking about this the other day because
it's like I'm very sensitive everywhere, and like my click
can get fried if it's over stimulated, so and I
can get off from penetration. But like, damn, if I
could like donate this to a straight woman who doesn't
feel anything for it, I would.
Speaker 4: I would do that for her.
Speaker 1: But I am a straight woman who doesn't feel anything
from penetration.
Speaker 5: If I it's me, Yeah, if I could give you,
if I could give you that, if that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 5: I would happily donate it because it's not as necessary.
I've noticed that in porn, the fetishization around lesbian sex
is less that like, oh my god, it's two girls.
It's this idea that it's always soft and it's always
sweet and it's always just tender kissing that every time
too women have sex, they're making love and I love
doing that. But I also like having rough sex. I
like having kinky sex. I have one of my scenes
is titled spank, Strapped and Zapped, and I like doing
all of those things. And I think that there's a
misconception that sex has to involve dick in order to
be rough, or that sex has to involve men in
order to be rough and enjoyable.
Speaker 4: And I think that that affects.
Speaker 5: All women, because if we're implying that lesbians only have
this tender sex and that they don't enjoy anything that's
outside of that box, anything that's more intense than that
kind of implies that the only reason that straight women
or by women are doing it is because of its
association with men.
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, then do they even like this?
Then does it even matter whether they want this?
Speaker 5: So I think that it is, like it's a chain
of assumptions that can be made that I think affects
everyone down the line.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's important.
Speaker 5: To show that, like, oh, no, sexuality between two women
where it's just women is just as multifaceted as it
is with men.
Speaker 3: Do you know who actually Blue is in her series
girl vert?
Speaker 4: I think it sounds familiar.
Speaker 3: So she was.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I just had Johnny Darko her ex
on last week. She did like crazy hardcore girl girl
stuff like yeah, destroyed, like.
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, you should you should look it up.
She was very famous for them, yeah, doing some really
gnarly role girl scenes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you want you want rough girl girl? That
girl actually started that.
Speaker 5: And I still I still like the soft and sweet.
I think everyone likes the soft and sweet. But yeah,
it doesn't mean that it has to be the only
thing or it should be the only thing.
Speaker 3: Right, Women are multi faceted just as much as man are.
Speaker 1: Exactly now with Little Puck, you actually shot your birthday orgy, yes, right,
so tell us about that because that was quite a
feat to pull off.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that was a little Puck.
Speaker 5: That was Jewels, Gracie, Snow, Luna, Lux, Danny Sinclair.
Speaker 4: I said, there's in an order.
Speaker 5: I don't usually say them, Puck, Jewels, Luna, Danny, Gracie. Yeah, okay, yeah,
six girl orgy with a lot of my favorite women
that I've gotten to work with so far. The initial
scene with Luna and Puck actually isn't out yet.
Speaker 4: It's a Halloween one, so I get ready for that.
Speaker 5: But I was stunned looking at the roster that I
had for that just six months into the industry, because
it was.
Speaker 1: For your birth Yes, the idea was like yeah. They
were all like yeah, they were your birthday presents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was like both my six month conniversary
and my birthday, and we like, I got to have.
Speaker 4: The sort of creative direction with it.
Speaker 5: It was just very like lesbian Polly Pocket kind of
vibe for the aesthetic and then yeah, I make my
little birthday wish on my cupcake. Everyone comes around me,
we start kissing. I'm wearing roller skates. I get strapped
with the roller skates still on.
Speaker 1: Was that tricky at any particular moment, because, like you know,
it was a brief thing.
Speaker 5: It was like a like, okay, like I got to
do like I'm a roller skater. I like strap for
my birthday, I got to get roller skated. There's I
got to get strapped with roller skates on. Yeah, And
so it was. It wasn't like the easiest feet in
the world. I think that I could probably train out
and get better at it. But it was fun and
it was worth it for the scene that actually ended
up being one of.
Speaker 4: The more team parts of it. It got like very barrel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what happens.
Speaker 5: When you have a bunch of genuinely queer women. Yeah,
it's it can't be soft and sweet, but it's not.
Speaker 3: Always sh is out of contral Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you felt any pressure from like fans, agents, or
studios to eventually do boy girl scenes or have people
have been pretty respectful of that.
Speaker 5: I have felt absolutely no pressure from studios or from
agent or from my agent.
Speaker 4: I got the door.
Speaker 5: Slammed in front of my face from a few people
when I mentioned that I was a girl girl only,
but I so yeah, within the industry, I've never had
any pressure to do it. There have been some I
say fans even lightly because I think that if you're
trying to pressure me to do something that's out of
my boundaries, then you're not really a fan.
Speaker 4: Of me, even if you do enjoy my content.
Speaker 5: Again, the girl girl community is very strong and very loyal,
so pretty early on with that, like I remember, even
when I had like one hundred followers on Twitter, someone
would be like, oh, do like insert super intense boy
girl seen here, and then they would get like bombarded
with she's gay. So I've been requested to, I've never
felt pressure to, and I never will really, I think
I'm too old to be pressured.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fans, do you have a memorable or strange
fan interaction or any comments that made you laugh out
loud or even.
Speaker 3: Anything that's been particularly touching.
Speaker 5: One of the comments that I got that was really
touching from a fan was about how like yeah, like
you're hot, like whatever, but like he was talking about
my skill and the effort that I put into what
I do and my genuine connection, and I saw that
like he really appreciated me as a performer.
Speaker 4: And for my craft.
Speaker 5: And I think that my most loyal fans tend to
fall into that camp where some of them like that
I'm girl girl only some of them don't really care
as long as they know that I'm making projects that
I'm passionate about and putting a lot of effort into.
And it's just been really heartening to see that so
many of my fans really just are invested in my
creativity and we having a great time.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the negative the internet also comes with negativities. We
all know, we call them trolls. So, now that you're
in the public eye and your Instagram has grown significantly,
how many followers do you have now on Instagram?
Speaker 4: I think like two hundred sixty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which is a lot, yeah, for especially
for being I mean you've been in the industry for
like seven months.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How do you manage negative comments? Do you let it
get to you? Do you not read the comments? Do
you block people?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: How do you manage that?
Speaker 5: I don't really look at my Instagram comments unless they're
like I don't even really get the note of occasions
for Instagram comments unless it's like from people that I'm
following back, So that makes it pretty easy Instagram. I'm
also really tame, so I think there's a decent chunk
of people on there who think that I'm just an
LGBT mainstream model influencer. So I've generally been lucky about that.
Like I get like the weird comment here and there,
but like it doesn't really phaze me. The main thing
that I that has bothered me isn't really even about
comments that I get, but it's comments that other women
that I know very hands on, that they are genuinely sapphic. Yeah,
being told, oh, you're not even gay, you only talk.
Speaker 3: About boys, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Blah, and having their sexualities invalidated.
Speaker 4: That pisses me off to see.
Speaker 5: I apparently someone said something on like my subreddit that
I'm a fake lesbian.
Speaker 4: But that's just like so laughable to me.
Speaker 5: But when it happens to other people, that's when I
get more ticked and anything else.
Speaker 1: So you are also somebody who, unlike myself, actually has hobbies.
So tell us about your hobbies and what are you
really passionate about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I loved to roller skate, as I kind
of aluated to I do. I mainly like to do
like big long distance skates like outdoors. I have my
headphones and music blasting, just going along the beach and
it feels like I'm flying. It's the most magical feeling ever.
I paint, I sculpt here and there. I love to swim, love.
Speaker 4: To be in any sort of body of water.
Speaker 5: I got fitted for a wig cap today and it
reminded me of the feeling of a swim cap.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I need to get back into that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I like to hike, like to try new
vegan restaurants, work with new art mediums.
Speaker 1: So a feeling a paint made me a painting for
my birthday, and I hung it in my bathroom. By
the way, Oh my god, I took down I replaced
an old photo of me that was taken when I
was like eighteen, when I was at Brooks in student
photography and someone shot me for one of their projects.
So I took down a photo of myself, Oh my god,
to put up. You're the painting that you and.
Speaker 4: It's so honored.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks a lot better in my bathroom than this.
My and my husband was like, oh, you finally took
down that fucking picture of yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sorry, looks looks mix the bathroom, which look much lighter.
What are you Some of your long term ambitions in
the adult industry. Do you see yourself staying purely in
front of the industry or do you have any plans
branching out doing stuff behind the camera.
Speaker 5: I think that I will always want to have at
least some portion of my career in front of the camera,
because that is really deeply fulfilling to me on like
a higher level.
Speaker 3: But I yeah, I'm.
Speaker 5: Open to directing. I mean, doing your own self reduced stuff.
Everyone's kind of a director, and I've had I've had
a few moments here and there where I'm set stuff
I'm like, oh my god, I'm such a director. Obviously
don't know nearly as much as actual directors, but I'm
I want to I want to do a little bit
of everything. Yeah, Like, I'm open to anything that's out there.
I think like being a performer will always be my core,
but I yeah, I don't like to be pinned down
to just one thing.
Speaker 3: What does success look like to you?
Speaker 1: Is it about winning awards, building a massive fan base,
creating work you're proud of, or maybe something bigger.
Speaker 5: I think that it's mainly about creating work that I'm
proud of. I also want to break glass feelings for
what it means to be girl girl only. I know
that there were previous eras nineties, early two thousands where
girl role only performers were able to assent to really
high heights, and that hasn't been the case for a while.
It's been treated as the entry level thing. And I
want to dismantle the idea that girl girl only sex
is entry level sex.
Speaker 4: And I want to.
Speaker 5: Hit all the same milestones in due time as any
boy girl performer would, just with a lady with a strap.
I think that, yeah, I don't put too much pressure
on myself to be like to convey a certain message
with my work. At first, I tried to put out
on my shoulders, and then I realized that if I'm
doing stuff that I authentically think is hot and I
authentically enjoy and I'm fufilled creative by that is authentic
lesbian representation more so than me trying to be the
perfect mold of what lesbian representation should be right. And so, yeah,
I want to share that with the world because, Yeah,
like I mentioned, I think it makes a difference for
all women, regardless of who you're sleeping with, to show
that woman only sex can be anything that sex with
man can be okay.
Speaker 1: And last question, like so many others in our industry,
you have even only fans where you can create your
own personal content and interact with your fans on a
more personal basis. Can you tell us a little bit
about what people can expect to find on there?
Speaker 5: Yes, so I mainly girl girl is where my core is.
Of course, some solos now that I'm working with Soul
I kind of mentioned her earlier, some better quality solos too,
because I realized I like shooting solos a lot more
when I get to work with somebody, even if that's
somebody is a camera woman. But I love to make
pretty things. That's my biggest thing. I love a good project.
I again, models sort of off of that stuff, getting
the establishing shots, setting a mood.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a bit of a script, maybe there's not.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, I have vanilla sex, I have kinky sex.
I have stuff that's the more classic girl girl flavor.
One thing that I really want to lean into more
because I've noticed that girl girl versus boy girl isn't
just about the gender makeup of the two people that
are having sex in it. It's a stylistic thing too,
So I want to basically have a mix of classical
girl girl boy girl where I'm the girl and the
other girls the boy and boy girl where I'm the boy,
and some of that can be about penetration, but not really,
it's just about the dynamic.
Speaker 4: I mean, you of course know what.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: You've seen the difference hands on, like even more than
I have.
Speaker 3: Like, so you're talking about kind of like a dominance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dominance.
Speaker 5: But even like the scene that I shot with Laura Bentley,
She's arguably still the more dominant one in that, but
during it was like, oh, I'm her little boy toy
right now. Like I was like, oh, I'm doing I'm
doing a male talent role in the way that she's
her husband's away and I'm the booty call and I
get on my knees in front of her. She sits
like a queen and I like eat her out. It's
like a very like classic boy girl script. But like,
why can't I be the boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good pool Yeah, maybe you can be
like you can do like a pool girl thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the pizza girl yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I really slummer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really want to do a pool girl one
because I think just like you could get so any
of the like the campy cliche shatu film like fully
filming me in like the objectification way that you film
a man, like it's like the ab shots the arm like. Yeah,
if I think that would be so fun, you could
do a whole series that is literally like all of
the porno tropes that usually involve a man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a woman. Yeah, that would actually be pretty.
Speaker 4: Ladies, let me know your favorite me and Soul will
make it happen.
Speaker 3: All right, well, Ophelia, thank you so much for coming,
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I do have some questions for you from our Patreon members,
but we'll do that in a separate segment. But for now,
can you tell everybody where they can find you online?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: Yes, let's see.
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