1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey, did you know that you can actually find me 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,400 naked online? Yes, I'm a photographer, director, podcaster, and in 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,279 my secret life, I actually have a platform with all 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,359 of the spicy content that you didn't think I made. 5 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:18,800 I know it surprised me too. If you're curious about 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,079 what happens when I'm in front of the camera instead 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,320 of behind it, head to my OnlyFans OnlyFans dot com 8 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:30,399 slash Holly Randall. It's raw, it's sexy, and it's totally uncensored. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,960 That's OnlyFans dot com slash Holly Randal. But don't say 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,920 I didn't warn you. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: You were listening to a pleasure podcast. For more from 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:01:01,880 our sex podcast collective, visit Pleasure Podcasts dot com. 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest 14 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 today is one of the fastest rising girl girl performers 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,760 in the industry. In just seven months, she's gone from 16 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:14,079 her Valentine's Day debut to working with some of the 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,640 biggest names in adults. A proud lesbian who only works 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,120 with women, she's built a reputation for authenticity, passion, and 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,719 incredible on screen chemistry. We'll talk about how she got 20 00:01:24,719 --> 00:01:26,920 started which she's learned so far and where she wants 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,680 to go from here. 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: Please welcome Ophelia A Hi, thank you so much. 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,519 Speaker 4: For having me. I'm like, it's crazy that I'm here 24 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:34,840 right now. 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,159 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, well, I'm very excited to have you here. 26 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:42,400 I also want to say, I mean, I know, like 27 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:46,640 we know each other, but I love your name. 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: I love the name Ophelia. 29 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:52,719 Speaker 1: It's not one that I've heard like every name in 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,319 the porn industry, but Ophelia is a name that is 31 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,560 not common and I love it, Like what inspired you 32 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:00,319 to pick that name? 33 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: So I originally, like when I was just getting started, 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,159 was looking at some like alternative modeling things that for 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,319 those you're supposed to have a different stage name sort 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,080 of too, and they liked those to be a little 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,560 bit more out there. So I was going to be 38 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:25,159 floor for that, and then I knew, like the whole alliteration. 39 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:25,439 Speaker 3: Thing was a thing. 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 5: But then when they came the time came around for 41 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:34,000 me to get started here, my agent was like, you 42 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:37,400 need a more namey name, and I knew that I 43 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:40,919 wanted to stick with some sort of f sound. Knew 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,319 too many fionas Phoebe didn't feel quite right. 45 00:02:44,439 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, went with Ophelia. 46 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:47,879 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: So let's talk about who you were, what you were 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,360 doing before you started in the industry, and what led 49 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:59,599 you to decide to be a part of our wonderful world. 50 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:00,479 Speaker 3: Yes. 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 5: So I have always been an artist, and I've always 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,319 been really passionate about sexuality, like to a point where 53 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:15,280 my interest in like sex and attraction and sex work 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,000 even like predated me having an actual libido of my own. 55 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:20,479 Speaker 4: My mom was. 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,159 Speaker 5: Talking to me earlier today about how she remembered when 57 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:26,919 I was really young, being like, women should be able 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,240 to do whatever they want as long as they like 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,039 doing it, why should anyone police it? 60 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: Just like going on this tirade. I do not have. 61 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:37,199 Speaker 5: Any hormones in my body yet, any sort of drive, 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 So I always just kind of polled in that direction. 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,319 But I knew that it wasn't the thing that you're 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,240 supposed to traditionally aspire to, so I kind of repressed 65 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 it down while like consuming all the media and all 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,639 the things and majoring and sexuality studies and all of that. 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,319 Speaker 4: But I did. 68 00:03:56,639 --> 00:04:01,199 Speaker 5: Went through college, got my associates, got my bachelor's, did 69 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:04,919 six years in corporate and kind of had the like 70 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,919 the cliche adult industry horror story with my corporate path 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,680 where I got started right. 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,599 Speaker 4: When I turned eighteen. 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: It escalated way faster than what I was prepared for, 74 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:18,319 but the money was good, so I stuck with it 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,959 until they like treated me poorly, kicked me the curb 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,560 over and over again. So I was laid off by 77 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:31,959 my last corporate job the Tuesday after Thanksgiving at nine pm. 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,680 And so, yeah, doesn't mean that it's any more of 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,279 a stable career just because it's salaried. 80 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's so fun and it makes me so crazy. 81 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: And I know that you've had issues with this, as 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,720 almost every sex worker has. Is that banks, Yeah, credit 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,040 card companies, insurance, Like I've been denied credit. I've been 84 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,959 denied insurance because we sex work. Yeah, high risk industries. 85 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,839 But like you just said, like I have found that 86 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,000 actually sex work is people work in sex work generally 87 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:06,920 have a lot more stable income than people who work 88 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:07,600 salary drugs. 89 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, because like now I can make do where before 90 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:15,279 I would have to just troll LinkedIn and like maybe 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,600 do like some sort of minimum wage job. But then 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,199 you don't have time to troll LinkedIn so I was 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:27,839 trolling LinkedIn and the fires happened, and I live like 94 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:30,399 pretty close to one of the areas that was affected 95 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:32,839 by it. So I stayed with my parents for a 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,319 while and was kind of just having my like mid 97 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:37,480 twenties crisis. 98 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:38,959 Speaker 4: What have I done with my life? 99 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 5: I've wasted my youth in this environment that I hate, 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,360 and I start I got the idea, just as a 101 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:50,519 side hustle, to sell some of the art modeling collabs 102 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:56,360 that I've done with photographers on the Playboy app because 103 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:58,480 that was the one that I felt like you could 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,000 get away with while still working and marketing her sales. 105 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:07,959 And so I started doing that, and I started my 106 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:12,000 new Instagram account for that and posting reels on there, 107 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,240 and then pretty early on someone. 108 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,439 Speaker 4: That was working with x Suite actually found me. 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: And I was familiar with you because you were one 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,439 of the sources of media that I voraciously consumed because 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:31,120 I was so interested in this industry, and I knew, like, 112 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,680 holy crap, there's not going to be a better opportunity 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,600 than this. I also knew that that would involve me 114 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:42,800 attending a red carpet on February eleventh, as you alluded to, 115 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,800 I didn't even shoot anything until the fourteenth, So I 116 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,199 was going to be known for being an adult before 117 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,959 I even started being an adult. So it was way 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,560 too good of an opportunity and way too visible of 119 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,439 one to be subtle about. So basically, I got word 120 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:03,279 of that party on the eighth, spent a couple of 121 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:06,839 days just like really thinking on like, is this how 122 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:09,279 I'm going to spend the next thirty plus years of 123 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,519 my life? And I decided yes, And I wrote a 124 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:16,680 four page thing to my parents, sends it over to them, 125 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,959 nuke to my personal Instagram down to like two hundred people, 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 put a message on there. Here's why I don't have 127 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:26,839 a profile picture anymore in my accounts private. If you 128 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:29,560 don't like it, you can unfollow, and yeah, I just 129 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,839 fully sent it from the beginning. 130 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,519 Speaker 1: Wow, So you this is actually kind of remarkable because 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:42,560 most people jump into porn they don't tell anybody. And 132 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,720 I mean, I can't tell you how many girls I've 133 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:47,720 talked to who think that they can like skate by 134 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,959 and people won't find out. We'll come on this podcast 135 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,600 and they'll be like, oh yeah, like my parents don't know, 136 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,720 and I'll be like, girl, they're going to know now, yeah, like, no, 137 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,160 they won't know, and I'll be like, yeah, they will, 138 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:02,920 and then after this podcast they'll call me to be like, yeah, 139 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,879 my parents saw your podcast and they found out. Like 140 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,399 I told you that they would find out. It's not 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,879 that I think everybody watches it, but someone's going to watch. 142 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,519 It's going to tell somebody else. It's going to tell 143 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:15,079 somebody else. It's going to get back to them. But 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,000 you like really took the initiative and before even did 145 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 your first scene, you told your parents. 146 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: So how did they take it? 147 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:30,079 Speaker 5: They took it astoundingly well, Like I sent the initial 148 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,080 email to them out a friend's house because I knew 149 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,120 if I called them then I would be flustered and 150 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,200 then it would sound like a less educated decision than 151 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,879 it was. But she had been my friend since we 152 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:44,360 were babies, our parents were roommates in college, and so 153 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,399 she knew obviously me really well, loved me, and also 154 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:52,120 knows my mom really well. And we were like, Okay, 155 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,240 eventually she's going to have merch that says I love 156 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:59,559 my porn star daughter. It's a matter of when in 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,639 the time line we get to that point. 158 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I feel like this march needs to be made and 159 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:10,080 we need to start a business with this, and. 160 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:13,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah I can. I can give. 161 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: Someone by the your or any by the view RL. 162 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, my mom can be the figure behind it. 163 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm an artist. Let's go. 164 00:09:23,039 --> 00:09:24,639 Speaker 5: But yeah, so we knew that that was going to 165 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,039 be where things initially were just a matter of how 166 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,480 long it took. My mom calls me right after and 167 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,159 she's like, I'm not mad. Like there was like the 168 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,200 like initial surprise, but she wasn't on a deep level 169 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:39,159 surprised because she was like, I always knew that you 170 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,120 were meant to work in something sex related like that 171 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,480 always made the most sense. I didn't necessarily think it 172 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:48,919 was going to be literal sex work, but like it 173 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 checks out. The one thing was that they wanted to 174 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,919 make sure I wasn't doing straight for pye because at 175 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:56,399 the end of the day, they want me to do 176 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,120 what I'm passionate about and what makes me happy and 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:09:59,879 having sex. 178 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: Men would do neither of those things. 179 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:03,399 Speaker 3: That's so funny. 180 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,639 Speaker 1: Just to make sure that you're not doing men and 181 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,759 you're only doing women. 182 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they knew that that would be a bad 183 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:13,440 path for me, like from a mental health perspective. If 184 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,440 I was into guys, I don't think that would even 185 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,159 be an issue. But yeah, they I think were a 186 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,240 little nervous in the beginning, but like I sent them 187 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:28,480 media to like get an understanding of it. And because 188 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,039 I have between my between a lot of luck and 189 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,159 also my own merits had some pretty cool milestones pretty 190 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:40,919 early on. I think that that's also made them like 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,960 they knew that it was good for me, and then 192 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,960 I'm showing like, oh. 193 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, like this is where I'm meant to be. 194 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: But yeah, they always they want me to be happy, 195 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:51,919 They want me to do something that I care about, 196 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,639 and they know that that this is what that is. 197 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,399 Speaker 1: I love that one of the reels that you have 198 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:01,799 pinned to your Instagram page is about it's kind of 199 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:04,519 a clap back to the people who that. 200 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: Comment that we see so frequently. 201 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:12,279 Speaker 1: Which is your father shamed you and it's a letter 202 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,440 from your father's and how proud he is of you. 203 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,919 Speaker 3: Right, Can you tell us a little bit about that. 204 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I that was my very first response that 205 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:22,759 I got from my dad about getting in the industry. 206 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,399 So again from the jump, no no processing time. He 207 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,960 was in jury duty when I sent it. So my 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,240 mom let me know that that's why he was going dark. 209 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:35,000 But from the moment he got out of jury duty, 210 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,879 that was his immediate reaction, that degree of support and 211 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:41,360 that understanding that like, no, this is something that I 212 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,480 take seriously and that I want to make an impact 213 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,919 with and yeah, that's all that they ever wanted me 214 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,279 to do. And so I knew that I had that 215 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,320 message from him, and obviously I was touched. Like once 216 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,440 once the initial like overwhelm of emotion past, I had 217 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,320 this thought like I am waiting for the day that 218 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:06,080 I get a fatherless behavior. 219 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,159 Speaker 3: Comment, and has it come? 220 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:08,879 Speaker 4: Yes, it came. 221 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:09,799 Speaker 3: I got that. 222 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: I got the like, oh, your your dad must be proud, 223 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,840 and yes he is, and there's empirical proof of it 224 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:16,279 all myxact. 225 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: When you know you've made it. Yeah. 226 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:20,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. 227 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 5: Which also it's a silly thing because I'm a twenty 228 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,720 five year old, grown adult woman, so like, it doesn't 229 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:28,159 matter what my parents think, and why is it always 230 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,440 my dad and not my mom? 231 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, yeah, it's always the d Yeah. 232 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: It's always it's always the dad, it's never the mom. 233 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,200 And also I am not a child. Yeah, so I 234 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,440 could not be more deeply grateful that my parents are supportive. 235 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,879 But also if someone's parents aren't, that doesn't mean it's 236 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:49,320 a bad decision for them. Yeah, like that's why they're 237 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,399 in it. Yeah, that could be totally unrelated. 238 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: I do find though, like, from all the people I've 239 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,559 spoken to, I feel like the ones that have the 240 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,720 best experience an adult and have like a really good 241 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,519 balance in terms of like mental health are the ones 242 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,399 that have support from their families. 243 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's really hard. 244 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I think when people have families that like turn their 245 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:14,399 backs on them because they get in the industry, and 246 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,440 I've seen that happen and it's really heartbreaking. 247 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:17,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. 248 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why, like I want to share the love 249 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:23,919 with people Like I I've just been so busy with 250 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 work that it's been a few months since have been 251 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,279 able to see my parents, But like. 252 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: I want them to get to know all my porn friends. 253 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: Like they loved taking strays for Thanksgiving and stuff away 254 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,960 before I was in a field where you were likely 255 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,320 to have a lot more strays around the holidays, So 256 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,240 goodness for you, you're probably gonna get some. 257 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:43,759 Speaker 4: More of those. 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they are so lovely and they are like 259 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:51,120 so open and accepting, like, not just to me, of 260 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,960 just anyone in the industry that they, yeah, if I 261 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:00,960 have this great support system, night a hog at all. 262 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I love that. 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Was that just a 290 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,960 coincidence or did you plan that that was just a 291 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,399 coincidence that was booked for me. 292 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: I got the thing February fourteenth from my agent and 293 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:45,200 I was like, this must be in a good omen 294 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,519 Like out of all the days together started. That felt 295 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:50,080 like a good sign. Yeah, and yeah, it was a 296 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,720 great scene. 297 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:51,799 Speaker 4: It was with Amber Moore. 298 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: She's by and I'm super grateful that my first scene 299 00:15:55,799 --> 00:15:57,399 was with a fellow queer lady. 300 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:00,159 Speaker 4: And yeah, I it. 301 00:16:01,039 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: The set was super professional, everyone was super friendly. I 302 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:08,159 had great chemistry with her. It was a great time overall, 303 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:10,360 and it felt really natural right away. 304 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:12,759 Speaker 3: What brand was it for? 305 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,759 Speaker 1: It was a four x cog girls Okay, yeah, and 306 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:19,639 then so what was what were you expecting going on 307 00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:21,799 to set or did you not know what to expect 308 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:25,200 and what was Was there anything that was surprising to you? 309 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:28,279 Speaker 5: So I kind of knew what to expect because I 310 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,320 had watched so many podcasts and read so many articles 311 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,559 and everything beforehand. When it came to the fact that, 312 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,000 oh no, this is a professional environment and it's not 313 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:41,000 going to be some scary, exploitative thing because I'm with 314 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,919 someone who's booking me an official capacity. So I didn't 315 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,080 have any misconceptions about that, and I always felt confident 316 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 about myself as a performer. I wouldn't have made the 317 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,120 leap if I didn't have that confidence. But I thought 318 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:58,559 I would be more nervous my first time. Oh really, 319 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,919 I yeah, I felt really comfortable really quickly. 320 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,039 Speaker 4: And I didn't know how much I would like the camera. 321 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,559 Speaker 5: Because I realized that for me there is an exhibitionism 322 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,359 element to it, but for me it's more about it 323 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,079 being a project. So like, the higher production value something is, 324 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,079 the more I get off on the camera. 325 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,599 Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, I was gonna ask you, like, did 326 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,799 you have a hard time, like having sex and being 327 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:29,359 aware of the camera, because you know what I mean, 328 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Like sometimes girls get lost in the sex and they 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,960 forget that they actually have to perform and what we 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,480 say is open up to the camera. 331 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: Did you struggle with that? 332 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:40,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if I looked back at 333 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:43,200 the foot at it now, I would have areas that 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,240 I'd want to improve. But I think having a modeling 335 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:51,519 background and then also having a hypermobility disorder also helps 336 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,640 because a lot of the like open up for the 337 00:17:54,759 --> 00:18:00,359 camera positions are not that weird for me because, like I, 338 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,200 I can go into a full split and not really 339 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,039 feel it, So opening my hips extra wide and a 340 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,759 partial straddle isn't isn't anything that crazy for me. 341 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: The one thing I had to learn is to. 342 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 5: Not dive in all the way immediately when I'm going 343 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,519 down on a girl that like I have to do 344 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,880 like the the long tongue distance thing for a bit, 345 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:26,759 but usually directors let me do my thing fully by 346 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:28,559 the time that we're really getting into it. But you 347 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:30,680 at least got to get that initial initial shot. 348 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,039 Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned your hypermobility, and you are very athletic, 349 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,319 You're you're a competitive swimmer or I mean water polo. Yes, 350 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:46,720 and you love yoga and you're insanely flexible. So do 351 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:50,359 you feel like this athletic background has helped you as 352 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,880 a performer? And do you ever I mean, I have 353 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,079 found that directors when they find a girl is super flexible, Yeah, 354 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,759 they're like, reposition must be insane. Yeah, like do you 355 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,519 run into that? 356 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:05,799 Speaker 3: And is it sometimes like kind of annoying? 357 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,559 Speaker 4: I don't mind it. 358 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 5: I think it's fun because again, it's not a strain 359 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,599 on my body, right, But I definitely think that it 360 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,480 helps to be athletic in one capacity or another. That's 361 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,240 one of the things that I really love about it 362 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:20,839 is that there have been times in my life where 363 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:22,440 I wanted to be a professional athlete and times where 364 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,079 I wanted to be a professional artist, and now I. 365 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: Kind of get to be both. 366 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, with my Slade scene, for example, when we 367 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,319 were going over the kind of yes and nos, that's 368 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 always when I let the directors know it. Also, I'm 369 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,039 wildly flexible, and he was like, okay, good to know. 370 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 And I like mentioned in passing, yeah, I can put 371 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240 both of my feet behind my head. And KGV was 372 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:49,720 the director. He's like, okay, so we're going to do that. 373 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:57,720 That's like a gold mine press. We're like, so, so yeah, definitely, Like, yeah, 374 00:19:57,759 --> 00:19:59,799 it's something unique that I can bring to the table. 375 00:19:59,839 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: So I love, I love any opportunity to do that. 376 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,079 Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about your slave scene, 377 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,519 because that only just came out recently, and I know 378 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:09,440 that's something that we've really been waiting to come out 379 00:20:09,519 --> 00:20:11,839 because you shout it a little while ago and it 380 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,000 looked so great. Yea, So tell us a little bit 381 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:17,160 about it. Who was with it looked like the experience yea. 382 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 5: So I yeah, it was one of my earlier scenes, 383 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,480 so I was nervous that it would still hold up, 384 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:25,720 which I feel like it does. But it was with 385 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:30,720 Ashley Alexander, and it was kind of spy themed, so 386 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,240 sort of James Bond vibes. I had this like gold 387 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,799 leather Madonna type cone boob biki for my pretty girls. 388 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,279 But the whole promise was, oh, we just did whatever 389 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,880 heist and there was the glass dildo in there, so 390 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:50,119 time to go fuck, which very fun, very cute little 391 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,880 porn logic. 392 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: But I. 393 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, I love the glam thing. I love the 394 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,359 cinematic thing. 395 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 5: I think that as a found and woman who's into 396 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,839 feminine women, it's just like the height of everything that 397 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,960 I want to do of Okay, I'm going to get 398 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:11,400 as dulled up as possible and be with a girl. 399 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: It's also that way, and we're going to have. 400 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 5: Amazing, crazy, freaky sex with beautiful camera work and yeah, 401 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,400 just have a great time. So it was magical. Everyone 402 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,079 on that set was so lovely. I'm so happy I 403 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,279 got to go in their pool because I'm a fish 404 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,920 and anytime to get into the water, I will take it, 405 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,359 and that pool is stunning. So yeah, I could not 406 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,279 have asked for a better hopefully first and many times 407 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:40,759 a slide. 408 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Was there any dialogue in that scene or was it 409 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,599 all just like cinematic getting into it? 410 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: It was all the like cinematic getting into it, okay, 411 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,880 Which I also learned from that when I was making 412 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,400 my own independent content. Now that I have a creative partner, 413 00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:01,079 Salida si Erto, that I work with pretty consistently for 414 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,039 my independent projects, we kind of use that as an 415 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:07,640 example of, oh, like, you can use the looks to 416 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,880 tell the story and sometimes add in a script, sometimes 417 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,000 add in just some establishing shots, but to give sort 418 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:17,319 of a context. I like to make the outfits match 419 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:20,880 with the sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 420 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,079 Speaker 1: But you also you enjoyed doing the acting though as 421 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,960 well too, because actually, I think I forgot to tell you, 422 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,839 and I didn't send it to you, but Quasar sent 423 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,000 me a clip of you doing the beginning of your 424 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:36,880 scene with Lana, and he was like, she, she's great 425 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,480 in this, and you were, We're very authentic. 426 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:41,839 Speaker 3: That's a great actress, because I had thething you do 427 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,359 that before. 428 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that it was kind of 429 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:49,119 a natural role for me to go into. I was 430 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,720 the lead in my fifth grade musical if that counts 431 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:56,640 for anything. That's kind of the extent of my acting background. 432 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:01,000 But yeah, I had such a great time and filming 433 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:02,319 that I've done a few. 434 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,839 Speaker 4: Projects of my own that has scripts. 435 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: I would love, love, love to do a feature, whether 436 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,799 that's as a supporting character one day as the lead 437 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:12,960 once I'm ready for that. 438 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to do everything in anything. 439 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: And then you also just had a shoot come out 440 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:19,759 with Playboy. 441 00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:24,079 Speaker 4: Yes, that was a big pinch me moment. 442 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 5: It was also the first thing that I could share 443 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,440 with my parents that they fully understood because they don't 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,160 watch porn. 445 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: So, which I mean is nice now especial brought to you. 446 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they so whenever I would have these other 447 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,839 big milestones, it would be like, oh, yeah, I just 448 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,559 had this happen. 449 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,759 Speaker 4: I'm so excited, this is what this means. 450 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 5: And they were still thrilled for me, of course, but 451 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:56,000 they know what Playboy is. Yeah, Like Playboy is so 452 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,000 iconic and it's so mainstream that that was the first 453 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,160 thing where I was able to share there like, oh shit. 454 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: She's doing Playwood. Yeah, so that was really fun too. 455 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 5: And I again, everyone that I've met has been so lovely. 456 00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:13,319 Like I sound like a broken record, but every person 457 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,920 on set that I've worked with has been so great. 458 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,799 It's like everything that I love about creatives, but without 459 00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:22,440 the pretentiousness that comes with a lot of creative fields 460 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,279 that are an adult. 461 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 462 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:26,799 Speaker 1: I mean that's one of the great things about adult 463 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,759 and I've I mean to sound like a broken record. 464 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,359 I said this so many times, is that I love 465 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,799 you know, what keeps me important is really the people. 466 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: And I think that exactly what you said. 467 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,839 Speaker 1: There's a real lack of pretentiousness in our industry, and 468 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,640 I think there's something about first of all, being like 469 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,799 the black sheep of the ntayment industry. There's a kind 470 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,519 of us against them mentality because we are stigmatized so much, 471 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,359 but also the vulnerability of doing what you do. Yeah, 472 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,240 when you take all your clothes off and you show 473 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,440 like everything to the world, it's kind kind of like 474 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,960 what else have you got to hide? And I think 475 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,039 that translates into the personality as well. And I have 476 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,640 found that porn stars are some of the most like 477 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,920 authentic and down to earth people. When I was shooting 478 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,920 for Playboy a lot, I would shoot fashion models for them. 479 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,079 Sometimes I would shoot Playboy playmates for them, and I 480 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:25,279 would shoot porn stars, and by far I preferred shooting 481 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:30,000 porn stars. I would sometimes and not always, but yeah, sometimes, 482 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,599 like the fashion models and like the Playboy playmates were 483 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,599 like they were let's just say they were different. They 484 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,799 were different to work with. And I was just like, Wow, 485 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,160 I really prefer porn stars and like, and I've also, 486 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,640 oh my gods, a shot a reality show celebrity Wants 487 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,640 for a Playboy Jesus Christ. 488 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 4: It was the worst experience. 489 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god. 490 00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, porn stars only please, 491 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,799 please God. 492 00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: I do not want to shoot celebrities. 493 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 494 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,559 Speaker 1: They're great people, really are. So many people talk about 495 00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,279 a learning curve when they start. Was there any particular 496 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,880 lesson or piece of advice from these first few months 497 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,759 in the industry that you would want to pass along 498 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:13,920 to anybody else who's considering getting into porn. 499 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that, especially. 500 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,839 Speaker 5: When you're getting started, Like there're a lot of times 501 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,440 the things that look for new girls, they want to 502 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,119 do things that are maybe pushing on the edges of 503 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,680 their boundaries. And I think that it's not in the 504 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,279 way that it used to be where it's like, oh, 505 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:37,200 you got to do this thing. 506 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:38,799 Speaker 4: It's more of like, oh my god, it'd be so 507 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:42,119 great if you did this thing. But if you're young or. 508 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,559 Speaker 5: Just getting started, you might think that you need to 509 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,480 do that even though no one's explicitly asking you. So 510 00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,519 what I've found has been really helpful for me when 511 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,319 I've been in those situations is just. 512 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: To know what unique thing that I can bring to 513 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:57,519 the table. 514 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 5: So and it's never just in now, oh it's a 515 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,599 no butt, so like I'm not doing boy girl, but 516 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,039 I bring it for a girl girl, or like I'm 517 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,400 not doing insert whatever thing here, but I have a 518 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,559 modeling background like that sort of thing. So I think 519 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:19,279 even if you're not directly saying the butt to directors, 520 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,799 producers whoever, just know, I get in the back of 521 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,559 your head. So you have a reason to have some 522 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,319 extra confidence behind your boundaries. 523 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: You don't do this thing, but you bring value. Yeah anyways, yeah, yeah, 524 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,000 even though you don't. 525 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 526 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,839 Speaker 1: I think it's also hard too because a lot of 527 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,839 girls do get into the industry young. You're twenty four 528 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,039 when you got in, right, because you're just turned twenty five. Yeah, 529 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,680 And also you worked a corporate job with you said, like, 530 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,319 you worked in the real world and you had a 531 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,599 real job, and you went to college and you did 532 00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,960 all the things that I think helped you learn about 533 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,599 life and you know, live, And I think sometimes when 534 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,400 you just into it straight out of school, it's hard 535 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,319 to establish boundaries. 536 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: It's hard to establish boundaries as anyways. 537 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 5: I mean also, like even outside of the sex work 538 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,119 aspect to it, if you're going straight from high school 539 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,680 to being a CEO, that's crazy. 540 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, like. 541 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: That's a big part of it too, Like becid Like 542 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,480 for me personally, I would not have been good to 543 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,839 start at eighteen, also because I thought it was straight. 544 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,960 But I wasn't ready to run a media company at eighteen. 545 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920 So I think that that's another part of it too, 546 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,039 where we all focus on the sex part of it, 547 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,960 but it's like, no, are you ready to be a 548 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:40,000 business owner like at your age? And some people probably are, but. 549 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,319 Speaker 1: I know in my case, I wouldn't have been so 550 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,039 elaborate on that because I think what you're suggesting is 551 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,160 that being a point star is more than just having 552 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,920 sex with people. 553 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying. 554 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:54,559 Speaker 5: Yes, Actually, the majority of my days is spent doing 555 00:28:54,599 --> 00:29:00,559 admin work, getting various things queued up, setting a pointments, 556 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:05,960 delegating like certain tasks off to people, like the same 557 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,880 sort of the same sort of planning and thought process 558 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,400 as any other entrepreneur you're doing with your porn because everyone, 559 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,680 regardless of whether you shoot SUITI or all that, your 560 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,279 main income is probably your fan sites, and you're the 561 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,160 one that's in charge of how those get run. 562 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,759 Speaker 4: And I remember even. 563 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,759 Speaker 5: A while back, I was talking to one of my 564 00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:33,160 friends and he was he's getting started with a tech startup, 565 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,680 and we were having a conversation about sort of our 566 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,160 long term plans and for me, it was different milestones 567 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,279 that I wanted to pace out in a certain way 568 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,359 or have them go however, I'm hoping. 569 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,039 Speaker 4: They do eventually. 570 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,279 Speaker 5: And he had the same sort of thing with investors 571 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,599 that we were meeting with, and we were having this conversation. 572 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,079 We were like, we're talking about the exact same thing 573 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160 right now. It's just that you're talking about apartments and 574 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,519 I'm talking about my pussy. But like fully, the same 575 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:08,240 exact conversation and difficulties that anyone runs into. So I 576 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,759 think that that's the biggest thing that I think probably 577 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,440 gets thrown under the radar for girls when they're starting out. 578 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880 It's like, are you ready to build a brand that 579 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,079 is going to last decades? 580 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,039 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because you're right. 581 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:23,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's I think what a lot of people 582 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,359 don't realize is you are an independent contractor and you 583 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,440 are your own boss, and especially with fan sites and 584 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640 a lot of people making their income off of it, 585 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,039 Like you said, that is entirely up to you as 586 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,400 to how that goes. And you have to market yourself 587 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,079 and it is harder now than it was before, and 588 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,519 it's hard to get that traction, and you know, you 589 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,720 have to be consistent and you have to. I mean, 590 00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:55,839 I can't tell you how many girls come into the 591 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,279 industry and don't realize that they have to pay taxes. 592 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,039 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, like I just 593 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:02,759 stuff like that. 594 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,039 Speaker 1: And it also drives me crazy that they don't teach 595 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,119 you this shit in school. 596 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:09,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really should, like they really should. Like why 597 00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,240 don't we teach finance fuck in high school? 598 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't we teach people about like balancing your checkbook, 599 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,440 paying your taxes, like you know, IRA's like retirement. 600 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah no, let's teach them homech wood shop. Yeah, like, I. 601 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 6: Mean, those are some more practical than Yeah, I know, 602 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:31,559 but yes, yeah, like like that would definitely have gotten 603 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:33,839 me a lot farther than the pre calculus that I 604 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,720 was too dyslexic to accomplish. 605 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,839 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, people, I remember my little sister, 606 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:41,720 she got a credit card right out of high school, 607 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,640 completely ran up the debt. 608 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: She didn't realize that she had to pay it off. 609 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, she thought it was just free money. 610 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, like what the fuck? 611 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, that's just that's just I mean, 612 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,519 don't get me started on the education system in this country. 613 00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:02,359 That's a whole other rant. Okay, So let's talk about 614 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,640 your sexuality. Yes, so you identify as a lesbian and 615 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,759 work exclusively in girl girl content. When did you know 616 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,160 that you only liked women? And was it hard to 617 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,319 come to that conclusion. 618 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: I've joked about this with my friends before. The classic 619 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880 thing is like gay guys. It's always like, oh, I 620 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,319 knew when I was three years old, every girl at 621 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,359 least in my generation, especially two decades and a boyfriend. 622 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: Like it's the classic thing. 623 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,319 Speaker 5: Because I could wax philosophical for a really long time 624 00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,039 about the way that women are. 625 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,359 Speaker 4: Expected to act with men in a patriarch chep blah 626 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:36,799 blah blah. 627 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 5: But the long story short is there are a lot 628 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,079 of social things that just make you assume that every 629 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,039 woman feels this way or that certain red flags don't 630 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:51,680 mean that you're not into men. But I was when 631 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,799 I was really young. I probably what would have been 632 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,279 considered out Like I remember crushes that I had on 633 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:03,519 girls when I was like three. But I moved to 634 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,599 a suburb when I was in middle school that was 635 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,880 a less accepting area. It was like still California, so 636 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,519 it was like okay, like more liberal, but it was 637 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,279 like the gay boys got to hang out with the 638 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,759 popular girls. But like if you were a girl that 639 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000 like girls, that was really weird and gross and icky. 640 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,160 So I think that I like actively went into the 641 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,839 closet at eleven and then successfully convinced myself that I 642 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,920 was straight by around thirteen fourteen, and I had no 643 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:39,119 one else foled, but I had myself fulled until like 644 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,000 once I was in college, I started opening myself up 645 00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,000 more to experimenting with women. 646 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: Of course, men were the experiment. 647 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,839 Speaker 5: In hindsight, but I realized like, Okay, yeah, this is 648 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,839 this is a lot more fun. And then I tried 649 00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:57,559 to date a guy and it did not work out, 650 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,400 and that made me realize, like, oh, something's very wrong here, 651 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:05,279 Like on like a fundamental soul level, I realized that 652 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,359 some of the things that I was experiencing during sex 653 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,800 with men were probably not what. 654 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,519 Speaker 4: What should be happening either. 655 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 5: Like I was like, damn, if I just like hooked 656 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,760 up with a few of my guy friends who were 657 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,199 like better, more attentive dudes, it probably could have saved 658 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,679 me so much trouble because like if my like eyes 659 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,679 were tight shut, or I was staring at the wall 660 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,039 whole time and I was just making noises if. 661 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,119 Speaker 4: I haven't have been like, what's up? 662 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: But what's going on here? 663 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 6: I feel you? 664 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think kind of the more experiences that 665 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,239 I had with women, and the more that I tried 666 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719 to really make it work with a man, just that contrast, 667 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,599 because we were open at the time too, that that 668 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,159 contrast just got more and more clear. 669 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,039 Speaker 1: Do you feel like maybe it was like normal for 670 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,760 you not to enjoy sex with a man. Yes, you 671 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,280 know what I mean. 672 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: No one, no one hates on men more than straight women. Like, 673 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,000 I don't know. 674 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 5: Where people got the man hating lesbian thing because straight 675 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,559 women are so like men way more. Yeah like that, Yeah, 676 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,800 that was a big part of it, Like the way 677 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,000 that like I thought, oh, yeah, it's normal to be 678 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,599 dry when you see a dick because straight women. 679 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,679 Speaker 4: Talk about how dicks are gross. But then I find out, 680 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,400 oh wait, no, they actually do like them. 681 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah what told me this? 682 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: Like I think that, Yeah, the purity culture thing is 683 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,119 a big part of it, because that makes sense. 684 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 685 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,559 Speaker 5: I think that if like I was in an environment 686 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,280 where straight women were able to be more unapologetic about 687 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,599 what they liked, then I would have realized, oh, that's pretty. 688 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: Different from what I'm thinking. 689 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:36,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 690 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that comes down to the 691 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,800 fact that women are not taught to communicate what they 692 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,280 like and that they're just supposed to please men. Yeah, 693 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,159 And so of course they don't like sex because they 694 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,280 don't tell guys that they like. Yeah, and men how 695 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,800 can they read minds? Yeah, And so we don't talk 696 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,760 to each other, and so nobody knows what the other 697 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,400 person likes. 698 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. Yeah. 699 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 5: And I think that I also because I am naturally 700 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,119 expressive with my sexuality, and I think that my sexuality 701 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,480 and spirituality are pretty tied together. There was a part 702 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,039 of myself that I did want to give to the world. 703 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,159 But when I was younger, I didn't understand that that 704 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,199 didn't mean that I wanted to sleep without all of 705 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:18,920 those people. I was like mistaking my desire to like 706 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,039 share this thing that I have as attraction and it wasn't. 707 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: So Yeah, No, I. 708 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 5: Was meant for those people to enjoy watching me on 709 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,760 camera having sex with people I'm actually into. 710 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: Ah, that makes sense. 711 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is gonna be kind of funny, 712 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,880 espially since you've met her. 713 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 3: But what you just said kind of reminds me of. 714 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: My mom, because my mom used to go to orgies 715 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,559 and she used to go and have sex with the 716 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:48,400 ugliest people at the orgies because she felt bad for them. 717 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,519 Oh no, And she would call herself like this goddess 718 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,840 of love, and she had this idea that like it 719 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,320 was her duty to like be love to people and 720 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:02,159 like be generous with her love. And yeah, I think 721 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,119 it was also kind of a narcissistic thing where it's 722 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:05,920 like she felt like she was like gifting you, Oh, 723 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719 I'm going to give you this great gift of me. Yeah. 724 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if I ever had like the full 725 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,360 like I will bestow myself upon the but. 726 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: Which has I think that my mother belts. 727 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 4: But I think on. 728 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 5: Like a like on a lighter level, it's probably like 729 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,360 the same thing where it was like, oh no, like 730 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,280 this is something that I was always meant to share, 731 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,039 not in the literal hands on way that I was 732 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:29,280 trying at first. 733 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,519 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so now you're sharing it with the world, 734 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:32,519 just in a different way. 735 00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 3: Got it now, of course. 736 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,199 Speaker 1: And when you entered the industry, you've you know, you're 737 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,760 a lesbian, you're aware of your sexuality, and you choose 738 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,639 to work only with women, which isn't always the case 739 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,199 with lesbians. There's a lot of girls that I know 740 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,760 that come into the industry that are only interested in women, 741 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,559 but they work with men because they feel like, you know, 742 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,280 they if they don't work with men, they won't get work, 743 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,679 They won't get jobs. So did you find it difficult 744 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,280 to come into the industr with a girl girl only objective? 745 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,599 Speaker 3: And have you found it hard to stick to that? 746 00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,159 Speaker 4: It was scarier? And I think it is still a 747 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:09,840 slower start. 748 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 5: Like I think that a performer who was doing guys, 749 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,880 who was hitting the same milestones that I'm at right now, 750 00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:19,920 would probably be making a lot more money than me. 751 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,280 Like it is a slower on ramp, and it has 752 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,199 to be Like that's where having the support from my 753 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,079 family has been really key, and like I know that 754 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,800 I can stick to my guns because they see this 755 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480 as a legitimate career that takes time to build up with. 756 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,400 But I knew that for me personally, it was more 757 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,199 than just like a oh, I'm not really that into 758 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,760 this thing. I knew that, like, oh I feel bad 759 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,719 after I have sex with guys. Yeah, And so like 760 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,119 not all lesbian's field that way. Some people it's just 761 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,639 like not my thing, but I can do it for 762 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,440 the camera and I don't mind, which is just as valid. 763 00:38:57,519 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 4: But that wasn't me. 764 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,039 Speaker 5: And so I knew that I wanted to have a 765 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:04,880 long career, and I knew that would mean a slower 766 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,159 career in some ways. 767 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: Mainly it's slower financially. 768 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 5: Because because I've been able to move fast in what's 769 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,199 seen publicly in a lot of ways. But yeah, I 770 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,400 think the other thing too is I realized that, oh, 771 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,159 I have to really lean into my independent content because 772 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,199 there are only so many bookings that are girl girl. 773 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:33,639 But at the same time, the girl girl fan base 774 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,760 is super loyal and they are hungry for more content, 775 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,639 and all these girl girl sites, a lot of them 776 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,519 are getting like less and less frequent with their postings, 777 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,199 so there is at the same time that it there's. 778 00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: Less work, there's also a bigger void. 779 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,679 Speaker 5: So I think that the fact that I'm so unambiguously 780 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:01,760 lesbian that I don't try to pretend like guys, I think. 781 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: That helps me. 782 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,559 Speaker 5: Because they know that they're getting the real experience. I 783 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,639 think that, like, I think it would be really hard 784 00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:12,920 to be a girl girl only gay for pay performer, 785 00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,800 right now, I think that the only reason it's sustainable 786 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,239 for me is because of how into women I am. 787 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're right, there are a ton of girl 788 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,559 girl only performers, or at least maybe not so many now, 789 00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,599 but back in the day there was more because it 790 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:35,519 was more taboo to do boy girl back then than 791 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,559 it is now. But they were because they had a 792 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:41,840 boyfriend who didn't want them to do guys, and so 793 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,559 they would only do girl girl because that was acceptable 794 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,400 to their boyfriend or they thought that it would not 795 00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,400 limit their dating possibilities as much. So that was super common, 796 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:56,079 but they did not like girls. They only did that because, well, 797 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,119 these are the sex scenes I can do, and still 798 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,639 they got Yeah. 799 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 5: I think that that's also another thing that I had 800 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,760 to get over or the hump of as a performer. 801 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239 When it came to studios seeing me and they see 802 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,320 girl girl only. They don't know that that's because I'm 803 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,760 a flaming lesbian. They might think that it's because I'm 804 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,079 trying to do the thing that's the least stigmatized and 805 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,239 that shows up really differently on camera. Yeah, So I 806 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,880 think that I had to make a name for myself 807 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,239 about who I am in order to get that respect 808 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,159 from studios to take their chances on me and know 809 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,679 that I wasn't limiting myself in a way that was 810 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,440 just phoning it in. 811 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: Have you worked with any girls that are quote unquote 812 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,960 gay for pay and how do you manage that? 813 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,119 Speaker 5: Because I also have shot like with a lot of 814 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,360 new girls A lot of times, it's not that different 815 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,760 because they're just nervous either way. Yeah, and I've noticed 816 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,719 that they've commented on it being a positive experience, mainly 817 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,960 because I'm friendly and attentive. I think it's harder to 818 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,239 do straight for paydayer pay as a woman. Even straight 819 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,039 women are like, oh, but I wish I'd liked women. 820 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,639 They're so soft and they smell good, like you never 821 00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:09,840 hear a lesbian talk that way about I mean, I 822 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,760 think I've worked with performers who maybe they have a 823 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920 ton of fun having sex with women as a thing 824 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,400 for fun, but they don't necessarily view it as. 825 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,119 Speaker 4: Erotic necessarily as I do. 826 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 5: They don't have that same degree of connection, but it's 827 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,360 enough for them to have a great time, so that 828 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,039 can be the good. Obviously, my preference is to work 829 00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:38,000 with queer women, and I yeah, when I work with 830 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,119 fully straight girls. I just let them know, like, hey, 831 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:45,280 I want you to have the best experience that you can, whether. 832 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,639 Speaker 4: That means you. 833 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,599 Speaker 5: Are having a blast here or you just know that 834 00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,840 we're getting something really great that you can be proud of. 835 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: That is really just a studio. 836 00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,639 Speaker 5: I do make sure that with anything that I'm shooting 837 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,760 myself the women and like women. 838 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,679 Speaker 1: Are there any misconceptions about lesbian sexuality in adult films 839 00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:08,519 that you've encountered and you want to clear up? Like, 840 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:11,519 for example, you once joked on X about people doubting 841 00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:15,320 lesbians even enjoy penetration, and you said, heaven forbid a 842 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,599 girl who's not into dick actually have a G spot. Yes. 843 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,199 Speaker 5: So I was thinking about this the other day because 844 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,920 it's like I'm very sensitive everywhere, and like my click 845 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,199 can get fried if it's over stimulated, so and I 846 00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,679 can get off from penetration. But like, damn, if I 847 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,239 could like donate this to a straight woman who doesn't 848 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,280 feel anything for it, I would. 849 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 4: I would do that for her. 850 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,039 Speaker 1: But I am a straight woman who doesn't feel anything 851 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:40,840 from penetration. 852 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: If I it's me, Yeah, if I could give you, 853 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,639 if I could give you that, if that. 854 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:46,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. 855 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 5: I would happily donate it because it's not as necessary. 856 00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:55,159 I've noticed that in porn, the fetishization around lesbian sex 857 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,079 is less that like, oh my god, it's two girls. 858 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,679 It's this idea that it's always soft and it's always 859 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:03,719 sweet and it's always just tender kissing that every time 860 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,360 too women have sex, they're making love and I love 861 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,800 doing that. But I also like having rough sex. I 862 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,119 like having kinky sex. I have one of my scenes 863 00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:18,320 is titled spank, Strapped and Zapped, and I like doing 864 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,800 all of those things. And I think that there's a 865 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,039 misconception that sex has to involve dick in order to 866 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,000 be rough, or that sex has to involve men in 867 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,880 order to be rough and enjoyable. 868 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 4: And I think that that affects. 869 00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 5: All women, because if we're implying that lesbians only have 870 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,280 this tender sex and that they don't enjoy anything that's 871 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,400 outside of that box, anything that's more intense than that 872 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,639 kind of implies that the only reason that straight women 873 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,480 or by women are doing it is because of its 874 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,559 association with men. 875 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, then do they even like this? 876 00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:03,559 Then does it even matter whether they want this? 877 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,159 Speaker 5: So I think that it is, like it's a chain 878 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,760 of assumptions that can be made that I think affects 879 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,760 everyone down the line. 880 00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,559 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's important. 881 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 5: To show that, like, oh, no, sexuality between two women 882 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,159 where it's just women is just as multifaceted as it 883 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,760 is with men. 884 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 3: Do you know who actually Blue is in her series 885 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:25,880 girl vert? 886 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: I think it sounds familiar. 887 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,159 Speaker 3: So she was. 888 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,159 Speaker 1: It's funny because I just had Johnny Darko her ex 889 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,719 on last week. She did like crazy hardcore girl girl 890 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,679 stuff like yeah, destroyed, like. 891 00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:42,199 Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit too much. 892 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, you should you should look it up. 893 00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:48,280 She was very famous for them, yeah, doing some really 894 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,239 gnarly role girl scenes. 895 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:53,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, you want you want rough girl girl? That 896 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,719 girl actually started that. 897 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 5: And I still I still like the soft and sweet. 898 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,199 I think everyone likes the soft and sweet. But yeah, 899 00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:01,559 it doesn't mean that it has to be the only 900 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,199 thing or it should be the only thing. 901 00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 3: Right, Women are multi faceted just as much as man are. 902 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: Exactly now with Little Puck, you actually shot your birthday orgy, yes, right, 903 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,840 so tell us about that because that was quite a 904 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,639 feat to pull off. 905 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,199 Speaker 4: Yes, so that was a little Puck. 906 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,159 Speaker 5: That was Jewels, Gracie, Snow, Luna, Lux, Danny Sinclair. 907 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:26,559 Speaker 4: I said, there's in an order. 908 00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 5: I don't usually say them, Puck, Jewels, Luna, Danny, Gracie. Yeah, okay, yeah, 909 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,559 six girl orgy with a lot of my favorite women 910 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:40,079 that I've gotten to work with so far. The initial 911 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,599 scene with Luna and Puck actually isn't out yet. 912 00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:44,599 Speaker 4: It's a Halloween one, so I get ready for that. 913 00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:51,079 Speaker 5: But I was stunned looking at the roster that I 914 00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,280 had for that just six months into the industry, because 915 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,639 it was. 916 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: For your birth Yes, the idea was like yeah. They 917 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239 were all like yeah, they were your birthday presents. 918 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was like both my six month conniversary 919 00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:08,719 and my birthday, and we like, I got to have. 920 00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:10,639 Speaker 4: The sort of creative direction with it. 921 00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:14,159 Speaker 5: It was just very like lesbian Polly Pocket kind of 922 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,320 vibe for the aesthetic and then yeah, I make my 923 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,360 little birthday wish on my cupcake. Everyone comes around me, 924 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,239 we start kissing. I'm wearing roller skates. I get strapped 925 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,719 with the roller skates still on. 926 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: Was that tricky at any particular moment, because, like you know, 927 00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:34,440 it was a brief thing. 928 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 5: It was like a like, okay, like I got to 929 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,719 do like I'm a roller skater. I like strap for 930 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,599 my birthday, I got to get roller skated. There's I 931 00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,880 got to get strapped with roller skates on. Yeah, And 932 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,440 so it was. It wasn't like the easiest feet in 933 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,800 the world. I think that I could probably train out 934 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,840 and get better at it. But it was fun and 935 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,599 it was worth it for the scene that actually ended 936 00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:57,159 up being one of. 937 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 4: The more team parts of it. It got like very barrel. 938 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what happens. 939 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: When you have a bunch of genuinely queer women. Yeah, 940 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,159 it's it can't be soft and sweet, but it's not. 941 00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:11,639 Speaker 3: Always sh is out of contral Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 942 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,159 Speaker 1: Have you felt any pressure from like fans, agents, or 943 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,880 studios to eventually do boy girl scenes or have people 944 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,480 have been pretty respectful of that. 945 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 5: I have felt absolutely no pressure from studios or from 946 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,280 agent or from my agent. 947 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,159 Speaker 4: I got the door. 948 00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 5: Slammed in front of my face from a few people 949 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,639 when I mentioned that I was a girl girl only, 950 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,920 but I so yeah, within the industry, I've never had 951 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,360 any pressure to do it. There have been some I 952 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,320 say fans even lightly because I think that if you're 953 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,320 trying to pressure me to do something that's out of 954 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,119 my boundaries, then you're not really a fan. 955 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 4: Of me, even if you do enjoy my content. 956 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,639 Speaker 5: Again, the girl girl community is very strong and very loyal, 957 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,159 so pretty early on with that, like I remember, even 958 00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:00,519 when I had like one hundred followers on Twitter, someone 959 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,679 would be like, oh, do like insert super intense boy 960 00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:07,079 girl seen here, and then they would get like bombarded 961 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:15,800 with she's gay. So I've been requested to, I've never 962 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:22,119 felt pressure to, and I never will really, I think 963 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,320 I'm too old to be pressured. 964 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: Speaking of fans, do you have a memorable or strange 965 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:33,519 fan interaction or any comments that made you laugh out 966 00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:34,719 loud or even. 967 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 3: Anything that's been particularly touching. 968 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:38,639 Speaker 5: One of the comments that I got that was really 969 00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:42,559 touching from a fan was about how like yeah, like 970 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,159 you're hot, like whatever, but like he was talking about 971 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,920 my skill and the effort that I put into what 972 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,039 I do and my genuine connection, and I saw that 973 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:57,320 like he really appreciated me as a performer. 974 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: And for my craft. 975 00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 5: And I think that my most loyal fans tend to 976 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,840 fall into that camp where some of them like that 977 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,119 I'm girl girl only some of them don't really care 978 00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:10,480 as long as they know that I'm making projects that 979 00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:12,519 I'm passionate about and putting a lot of effort into. 980 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,599 And it's just been really heartening to see that so 981 00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,440 many of my fans really just are invested in my 982 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,280 creativity and we having a great time. 983 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the negative the internet also comes with negativities. We 984 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,760 all know, we call them trolls. So, now that you're 985 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,239 in the public eye and your Instagram has grown significantly, 986 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,039 how many followers do you have now on Instagram? 987 00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 4: I think like two hundred sixty. 988 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which is a lot, yeah, for especially 989 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,840 for being I mean you've been in the industry for 990 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,719 like seven months. 991 00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:46,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 992 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: How do you manage negative comments? Do you let it 993 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,559 get to you? Do you not read the comments? Do 994 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:53,360 you block people? 995 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 5: Like? 996 00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 3: How do you manage that? 997 00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 5: I don't really look at my Instagram comments unless they're 998 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,599 like I don't even really get the note of occasions 999 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,039 for Instagram comments unless it's like from people that I'm 1000 00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:08,320 following back, So that makes it pretty easy Instagram. I'm 1001 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,480 also really tame, so I think there's a decent chunk 1002 00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,280 of people on there who think that I'm just an 1003 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:20,960 LGBT mainstream model influencer. So I've generally been lucky about that. 1004 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,880 Like I get like the weird comment here and there, 1005 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,440 but like it doesn't really phaze me. The main thing 1006 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,440 that I that has bothered me isn't really even about 1007 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,199 comments that I get, but it's comments that other women 1008 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,599 that I know very hands on, that they are genuinely sapphic. Yeah, 1009 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,079 being told, oh, you're not even gay, you only talk. 1010 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,159 Speaker 3: About boys, blah blah blah blah blah blah. 1011 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 5: Blah, and having their sexualities invalidated. 1012 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,079 Speaker 4: That pisses me off to see. 1013 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 5: I apparently someone said something on like my subreddit that 1014 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,960 I'm a fake lesbian. 1015 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,639 Speaker 4: But that's just like so laughable to me. 1016 00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 5: But when it happens to other people, that's when I 1017 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,800 get more ticked and anything else. 1018 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: So you are also somebody who, unlike myself, actually has hobbies. 1019 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,079 So tell us about your hobbies and what are you 1020 00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:13,119 really passionate about. 1021 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I loved to roller skate, as I kind 1022 00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:19,679 of aluated to I do. I mainly like to do 1023 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,440 like big long distance skates like outdoors. I have my 1024 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,880 headphones and music blasting, just going along the beach and 1025 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,960 it feels like I'm flying. It's the most magical feeling ever. 1026 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:37,199 I paint, I sculpt here and there. I love to swim, love. 1027 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 4: To be in any sort of body of water. 1028 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,079 Speaker 5: I got fitted for a wig cap today and it 1029 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,960 reminded me of the feeling of a swim cap. 1030 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I need to get back into that. 1031 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,599 Speaker 5: But yeah, I like to hike, like to try new 1032 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920 vegan restaurants, work with new art mediums. 1033 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: So a feeling a paint made me a painting for 1034 00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:57,239 my birthday, and I hung it in my bathroom. By 1035 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,920 the way, Oh my god, I took down I replaced 1036 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,320 an old photo of me that was taken when I 1037 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,079 was like eighteen, when I was at Brooks in student 1038 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,000 photography and someone shot me for one of their projects. 1039 00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:12,599 So I took down a photo of myself, Oh my god, 1040 00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:14,719 to put up. You're the painting that you and. 1041 00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 4: It's so honored. 1042 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks a lot better in my bathroom than this. 1043 00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,440 My and my husband was like, oh, you finally took 1044 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,920 down that fucking picture of yourself. 1045 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1046 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: Sorry, looks looks mix the bathroom, which look much lighter. 1047 00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,519 What are you Some of your long term ambitions in 1048 00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,440 the adult industry. Do you see yourself staying purely in 1049 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,599 front of the industry or do you have any plans 1050 00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,400 branching out doing stuff behind the camera. 1051 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,519 Speaker 5: I think that I will always want to have at 1052 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,599 least some portion of my career in front of the camera, 1053 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,960 because that is really deeply fulfilling to me on like 1054 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,840 a higher level. 1055 00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 3: But I yeah, I'm. 1056 00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:55,199 Speaker 5: Open to directing. I mean, doing your own self reduced stuff. 1057 00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:58,280 Everyone's kind of a director, and I've had I've had 1058 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,000 a few moments here and there where I'm set stuff 1059 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,119 I'm like, oh my god, I'm such a director. Obviously 1060 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,320 don't know nearly as much as actual directors, but I'm 1061 00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,079 I want to I want to do a little bit 1062 00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:13,320 of everything. Yeah, Like, I'm open to anything that's out there. 1063 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,360 I think like being a performer will always be my core, 1064 00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,360 but I yeah, I don't like to be pinned down 1065 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,280 to just one thing. 1066 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 3: What does success look like to you? 1067 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: Is it about winning awards, building a massive fan base, 1068 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,679 creating work you're proud of, or maybe something bigger. 1069 00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:35,639 Speaker 5: I think that it's mainly about creating work that I'm 1070 00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:43,400 proud of. I also want to break glass feelings for 1071 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,480 what it means to be girl girl only. I know 1072 00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:50,679 that there were previous eras nineties, early two thousands where 1073 00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,400 girl role only performers were able to assent to really 1074 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,119 high heights, and that hasn't been the case for a while. 1075 00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:01,960 It's been treated as the entry level thing. And I 1076 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,719 want to dismantle the idea that girl girl only sex 1077 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,920 is entry level sex. 1078 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 4: And I want to. 1079 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 5: Hit all the same milestones in due time as any 1080 00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,800 boy girl performer would, just with a lady with a strap. 1081 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:27,280 I think that, yeah, I don't put too much pressure 1082 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,440 on myself to be like to convey a certain message 1083 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,239 with my work. At first, I tried to put out 1084 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,159 on my shoulders, and then I realized that if I'm 1085 00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,119 doing stuff that I authentically think is hot and I 1086 00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:45,920 authentically enjoy and I'm fufilled creative by that is authentic 1087 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,480 lesbian representation more so than me trying to be the 1088 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:55,079 perfect mold of what lesbian representation should be right. And so, yeah, 1089 00:55:55,119 --> 00:56:00,559 I want to share that with the world because, Yeah, 1090 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:02,199 like I mentioned, I think it makes a difference for 1091 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,920 all women, regardless of who you're sleeping with, to show 1092 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:11,320 that woman only sex can be anything that sex with 1093 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,800 man can be okay. 1094 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: And last question, like so many others in our industry, 1095 00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:19,119 you have even only fans where you can create your 1096 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,559 own personal content and interact with your fans on a 1097 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,079 more personal basis. Can you tell us a little bit 1098 00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,239 about what people can expect to find on there? 1099 00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 5: Yes, so I mainly girl girl is where my core is. 1100 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,119 Of course, some solos now that I'm working with Soul 1101 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,159 I kind of mentioned her earlier, some better quality solos too, 1102 00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:42,480 because I realized I like shooting solos a lot more 1103 00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,559 when I get to work with somebody, even if that's 1104 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:50,199 somebody is a camera woman. But I love to make 1105 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,480 pretty things. That's my biggest thing. I love a good project. 1106 00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,239 I again, models sort of off of that stuff, getting 1107 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,320 the establishing shots, setting a mood. 1108 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 4: Maybe there's a bit of a script, maybe there's not. 1109 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 5: And then yeah, I have vanilla sex, I have kinky sex. 1110 00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:12,000 I have stuff that's the more classic girl girl flavor. 1111 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,360 One thing that I really want to lean into more 1112 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,280 because I've noticed that girl girl versus boy girl isn't 1113 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,559 just about the gender makeup of the two people that 1114 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,880 are having sex in it. It's a stylistic thing too, 1115 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,440 So I want to basically have a mix of classical 1116 00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:33,679 girl girl boy girl where I'm the girl and the 1117 00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,559 other girls the boy and boy girl where I'm the boy, 1118 00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,559 and some of that can be about penetration, but not really, 1119 00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:41,000 it's just about the dynamic. 1120 00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:43,039 Speaker 4: I mean, you of course know what. 1121 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. 1122 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 5: You've seen the difference hands on, like even more than 1123 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,239 I have. 1124 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,239 Speaker 3: Like, so you're talking about kind of like a dominance. 1125 00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, the dominance. 1126 00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 5: But even like the scene that I shot with Laura Bentley, 1127 00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,599 She's arguably still the more dominant one in that, but 1128 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,480 during it was like, oh, I'm her little boy toy 1129 00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:05,719 right now. Like I was like, oh, I'm doing I'm 1130 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,119 doing a male talent role in the way that she's 1131 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,599 her husband's away and I'm the booty call and I 1132 00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:16,400 get on my knees in front of her. She sits 1133 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,960 like a queen and I like eat her out. It's 1134 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000 like a very like classic boy girl script. But like, 1135 00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:22,159 why can't I be the boy? 1136 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good pool Yeah, maybe you can be 1137 00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:27,639 like you can do like a pool girl thing. 1138 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the pizza girl yeah. 1139 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I really slummer. 1140 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, I really want to do a pool girl one 1141 00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:38,119 because I think just like you could get so any 1142 00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:41,480 of the like the campy cliche shatu film like fully 1143 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,760 filming me in like the objectification way that you film 1144 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,280 a man, like it's like the ab shots the arm like. Yeah, 1145 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,280 if I think that would be so fun, you could 1146 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,639 do a whole series that is literally like all of 1147 00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:56,840 the porno tropes that usually involve a man. 1148 00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a woman. Yeah, that would actually be pretty. 1149 00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,079 Speaker 4: Ladies, let me know your favorite me and Soul will 1150 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:02,639 make it happen. 1151 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,039 Speaker 3: All right, well, Ophelia, thank you so much for coming, 1152 00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:07,960 Thank you for having me. 1153 00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: I do have some questions for you from our Patreon members, 1154 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,519 but we'll do that in a separate segment. But for now, 1155 00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:17,400 can you tell everybody where they can find you online? 1156 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:17,679 Speaker 3: Please? 1157 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,239 Speaker 4: Yes, let's see. 1158 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 5: So, probably the easiest way to find me is through 1159 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,639 Instagram and then through the link in my bio. 1160 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,559 Speaker 4: So that's Ophelia dot FA. 1161 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 5: I'm Ophelia underscore FE on OnlyFans, just Ophelia like Ophelia 1162 00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:40,119 FA with no punctuation on loyal fans and hidden Ophilia 1163 00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:44,159 FA A eight on Twitter. My website's Ophelia fay xoxo 1164 00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:44,880 dot com. 1165 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: And you Guys can find me on Instagram and on 1166 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,559 Twitter at Holly Randall. 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