WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:05.559 Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.599 another episode of my big foot sighting? All right, then 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:10.800 let's do this. 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.759 Seen a bunch of rundown no horse towns, where the 5 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.640 church at the backbonels and the bow and the fasting 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.079 melodies cove in with the bomb man rose with the roofs, 7 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:30.199 run deep beyond the nose of the busy streets with 8 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.359 the songs of the South of su. Then when I 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.719 hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm bringing out 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.000 I Don't Run from Banjung music. 11 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:53.799 Yeah, if you've had a bigfoot sighting, I would like 12 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.560 to be a guest. Please go to my Bigfoot sighting 13 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.159 dot com and let me know. 14 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:05.200 My bigfoot sightings started about a year ago. It was 15 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:10.159 March the first, twenty twenty five, and a friend of 16 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:13.599 mine who's a member of the BFRO called me up 17 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.920 and asked me if I'd like to go out looking 18 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:19.359 for bigfoot. And since I'd never been out there before, 19 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.519 I said why not. So we went to an area 20 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:28.519 not far from where I live that is a reservoir 21 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.920 that is backed up by BLM land and we started 22 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:38.599 driving around looking for bigfoot. And since I'd never been before. 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.680 I didn't have any idea of what I was doing. 24 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.959 I was basically me trying to learn from someone that 25 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:49.239 was more experienced. And as we drove around these mountain 26 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:54.079 roads in this area, I had been up there before 27 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:59.400 and had noticed some very strange looking trees, things that 28 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:08.039 were didn't look natural. And as we drove around, we 29 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.000 were drinking iced tea and I had to relieve myself. 30 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.080 So I asked my friend to pull over, and we 31 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:18.439 found a spot that we could do and I went. 32 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.639 Over to water a tree. 33 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.280 And while I was standing there, I noticed there were 34 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:28.639 three young trees that were coming from different directions that 35 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:35.319 were woven together. It was over a game trail, and 36 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.280 it just looked really odd. So I wasn't really a researcher, 37 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.319 so I asked him to go ahead and snap a 38 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:49.080 picture while I illuminated with my flashlights. This kind of 39 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.439 triggered something in me, and when I got home, I 40 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:56.199 started searching the internet for tree structures and Bigfoot. Now 41 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.159 the whole reason I was interested in going out with 42 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:00.199 him to do this. 43 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:01.599 This is back in. 44 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.199 September of twenty twenty three. I was taking my garbage 45 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:08.719 out to the street, placing the can at the edge 46 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:11.639 so that they could pick it up. And I heard 47 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:16.639 this really strange whistle and it wasn't like a human whistle. 48 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:21.960 It lasted way too long and it was very strange tones. 49 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:25.039 And so. 50 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.919 I lived near a winery and this was a Thursday 51 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.199 night at about midnight, and the people that work the 52 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.479 winery start working before the sun comes up, so by 53 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.120 eleven o'clock at night they are asleep. And I was like, well, 54 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.199 I wonder if it's my neighbors. I don't think they're 55 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:49.400 imbibing their own products, especially on a Thursday night. I 56 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:54.960 was really confused about it. So a week passed and 57 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.240 again it was trash night. I was taking my trash 58 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.960 back out to the street again and I heard what 59 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:07.039 was a very strange howl, and it sounded a bit 60 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:10.719 like a canine howl, but it was really long, and 61 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.639 at the end of it it dropped. 62 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.039 Into deep bass tones. 63 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.800 And so I didn't know what to make of this, 64 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.560 and I didn't say anything to anybody, because you know, 65 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.160 I'm hearing strange sounds out on my property. And so 66 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.639 the following Sunday, when I was at church, I asked 67 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:34.079 my pastor, you know, I heard some strange sounds. What 68 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:37.360 do you think this could be? Well, it turns out 69 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.120 he and one of the members, another member of my church, 70 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.639 said it was Sathquatch, and of course I was very skeptical. 71 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.160 I literally said, no way, that's not what I heard, 72 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.639 because to me, fath Watch was the local legend that 73 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.680 my neighbors took advantage of selling chainsaw carvings of the creature. 74 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.040 I just thought it was a tourist trap kind of thing, 75 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.680 and it wasn't something that was even on my radar 76 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:12.199 or anything that I had interest in. And so my pastor, 77 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:18.759 Kevin Linley, started sending me audio samples of Ron Moorhead's 78 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:23.120 Sierra sounds, and I listened to all of them, and 79 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.360 he sent me six clips. And it wasn't until I 80 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.240 was about halfway through the last clip that he sent 81 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.720 me that I heard the exact whistle that I heard 82 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.360 from my driveway, and literally the hair stood up on 83 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.600 my arms. I was like, you got to be kidding me, 84 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:45.680 this thing's real. And so that got me curious. So 85 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.160 when I went out on March first, twenty twenty five, 86 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.000 I went out with Ed, who is the gentleman who 87 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.759 also goes to my church he and I went up 88 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.319 on the mountain and when I found that tree weave 89 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:58.759 and came back and searched it. 90 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.920 I searched for tree structures. 91 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:06.720 And bigfoot and I wasn't expecting anything, but I got 92 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.959 over one hundred thousand hits on the search engine. 93 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.040 It literally blew my mind. 94 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.639 So I started looking at all the photographs because I 95 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.600 was like, well, maybe i'll see one that looks like 96 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:25.759 what I saw. And it was very interesting, but this 97 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.000 wasn't something I was pursuing. So we flashed forward to 98 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.439 April twenty sixth to twenty twenty five and Ed calls 99 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:37.319 me up and says, let's go out bigfooting again. And 100 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:39.759 I was sitting at home watching a John Wayne movie 101 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:42.720 that I've seen a hundred times already, so I was like, sure, 102 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:48.800 let's go. And on that adventure, we found some actual evidence. 103 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:53.399 We found some animal bones that had been broken. But 104 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.360 the interesting thing about the brakes is that they were 105 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:01.399 twist fractures where the bone had literally been twisted and 106 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:06.480 the ends were splintered. You could literally see the torsion. 107 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.879 What was interesting about the bones is that there were 108 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.319 no teeth marks. If it had been a regular predator, 109 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.600 like a mountain lion or a bear. There would have 110 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.920 been teeth marks on the bone as it was peeling 111 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.240 the flesh from the bone, and there wasn't any of that, 112 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:28.480 and so that had me curious. Gone, okay, that's very strange. 113 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:34.439 And again, this wasn't something that I was pursuing. And 114 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:39.759 so at the beginning of June, Kevin asked me if 115 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:41.920 I would like to go and help him out with 116 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.199 his booth at the festival. And I was like, well, 117 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.480 what festival are you talking about? And he said, oh, 118 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:53.120 well in Glide, because I live in the Unca Valley 119 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:59.399 of Oregon, just outside of Roseberg, and Glide has a 120 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.720 squatch festival every year. 121 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:04.639 And I was like, well what festival. 122 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.959 He said, well, it's the Glide Sasquatch Festival and I 123 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.040 need some help with my booth. So when a friend 124 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.920 asked you to help out, you go help out. Again, 125 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.319 this wasn't something that I was interested in. In fact, 126 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.560 it was kind of a little side joke that was 127 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:24.560 running with me. And what I did all day was 128 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:31.079 basically keep the rain off of his cat the footprints, 129 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.759 and during the course of the festival, which was on Saturday, 130 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.919 one of the presenters was Todd Nice, And again I 131 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.639 didn't know who anybody was in the sasquatch research field. 132 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.879 I didn't know who any podcasters were. I didn't even 133 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.559 know who Ron Moorehead was. I didn't know who anybody was. 134 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.679 And so I was having a conversation with Todd Nice, 135 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:03.159 basically trying to learn, and our conversation drifted into infrasound. 136 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:08.759 Being that I'm a filmmaker and have an extensive resume 137 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:15.600 in the business, there are certain frequencies that affect human physiology, 138 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.600 and as an animator, you need to be aware of 139 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.720 these things because it can happen with sound, strobing, lights, 140 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.080 or frame rates of film, and you kind of need 141 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.399 to avoid these because certain frequencies can cause epileptic seizures 142 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:34.039 and it's really bad publicity if the patrons are flopping 143 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.720 on the floor of the movie theater, really not a 144 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:44.919 good thing. So this conversation maybe went ten minutes, and 145 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:50.480 I watched Todd's presentation and afterwards, you know, I was 146 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:56.679 critiquing it because I'm basically as smarty pants, and he 147 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:04.360 invited me to a researcher's only retreat called Beachfoot, and 148 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:06.879 I'm like, but I'm not a researcher. He goes, yeah, 149 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:11.080 but you have knowledge we don't have. And so I 150 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.279 wasn't sure I was going to go, and Ed, who 151 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.840 I'd been out with, finally decided that we should go. 152 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.120 And so we went to Camp Wilkerson, which is to 153 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:27.840 the northwest of Portland, for the last ever Beachfoot And 154 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.559 it's basically a camp out where all the researchers get 155 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.480 to the public's not invited. There's no merchandise sales. It's 156 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:38.120 not like any of the other festivals. And again, the 157 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.519 only person that I knew there was Todd, who I'd met, 158 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.480 and Ed, who I go to church with. So I 159 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:50.720 walk into the pavilion and here's this cool old guy 160 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:55.320 with a really neat hat, and I'm like, nice hat. 161 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.320 So I sit down and start talking to him. And 162 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:02.120 I should mention that Kevin had given me a list 163 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.159 of Sasquatch research luminaries. He said, have you run into 164 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.440 any of these people, you should talk to them, and 165 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.279 I said, talk to him about what he goes, just 166 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:16.679 be yourself. And so I sat down at the table 167 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:18.879 with this old guy with the hat and was chatting 168 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.440 with him for about fifteen minutes. And realized that I 169 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:24.720 was being rude and hadn't introduced myself. 170 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:26.759 So I said, Hi, my. 171 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.440 Name's Stan, and he said Hi, my name's Ron and 172 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.120 I said, as in Ron Moorhead. 173 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.919 He said, yeah, that's me, and I went. 174 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.120 I'm supposed to talk to you, and Ron, being really 175 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.120 quick on the comeback, said well you've been talking to 176 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.519 me for fifteen minutes already, which we laughed about. And 177 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.879 you know, I was milling around just meeting people, getting 178 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:53.279 first names. I didn't know who anybody was, and watched 179 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.279 a couple of the presenters and learned some new things, 180 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.480 even fixed the audio before they started because there were 181 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:08.000 some problems with the microphones, so some presenters are better 182 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.480 than others. And I smoked, so I went out back 183 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.679 to go have a cigarette, where I met a gentleman 184 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.039 named William Morris. 185 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.600 And William, who I. 186 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.600 Know is Bill because that's how I introduced himself, was 187 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.759 also one of the names that was on my list. 188 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:27.840 So when I said, hey, wait a minute, i'm supposed 189 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.519 to talk to you. You're on my list, he said 190 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.799 what list? And I explained the whole situation, and Bill 191 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:39.759 and I had a really lengthy conversation that evolved over 192 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:42.399 the course of that Fourth of July weekend, since that's 193 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:47.519 when they held Beachfoot. And here at Beachfoot, I met 194 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:52.240 a whole bunch of other researchers and investigators and heard 195 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.360 all kinds of phenomenal evidence. But I'm still very skeptical 196 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.399 about this whole thing. I hadn't seen one of the time time, 197 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.600 I'd only heard noises and seen a tree weave. But 198 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:08.440 that was enough to peque my curiosity to where I 199 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.759 wanted to learn more. So during the course of the weekend, 200 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.039 Bill and I became really good friends. We were talking 201 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:25.200 about everything and everything under the sun, and we barely 202 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:29.720 even touched on the big hairy guys. And it was 203 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.679 Saturday night that we were standing out back when we 204 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:38.120 heard a whoop, and everybody else at the place was like, oh, 205 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:38.879 did you hear that? 206 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.399 They were kind of freaking out running around, and Bill was. 207 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:45.000 So nonchalant about the whole thing, and he told me 208 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.159 that he'd had quite a few sightings at that time. 209 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:51.480 So we exchanged. 210 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:57.559 Numbers and he invited me up to take a class, 211 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.720 and he was going to take me out in the 212 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:04.159 woods and show me how to look for evidence, you know, 213 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:08.000 what I should be looking for, tree breaks, tree structures 214 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.840 what he called sasquatch highways, which are basically hallways that 215 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.360 have been carved through the trees that they frequent and 216 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.559 you know, I was like, Wow, this is great. I 217 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.679 got an expert who's willing to take me out in 218 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:27.919 the field and show me what I should be looking for. 219 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.279 And the whole idea was if I knew what I 220 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.519 was looking for, that when I was out hunting or 221 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.000 hiking in my local area, I would be able to 222 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:42.039 recognize evidence of their activity. And so it took a 223 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:46.519 little while to coordinate, and at the end of July 224 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:51.679 we ended up having a point in our schedules where 225 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.679 I could get down there, and so I went down 226 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.799 on a Monday, the twenty eighth of July for what 227 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.159 was supposed to be a three or four hour CLI. 228 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.440 And the class stopped being a class. 229 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.879 After our first stop at a tree structure that we 230 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:12.039 have since dubbed the cathedral because that's what it looks like, 231 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.320 and it turned into a full blown investigation. From that 232 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:22.679 point forward, we couldn't move fifty to seventy five feet 233 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:27.240 down the road without seeing a tree break, a tree structure, 234 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.000 and by tree break, I'm not just talking a tree 235 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.000 that broke and fell over. I'm talking two or three branches, 236 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:36.440 all broken in the same direction, all seven to eight 237 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.559 feet up off the ground, with no other damage to 238 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:44.240 any of the other trees in the area. This got 239 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:48.320 my curiosity going even more, and we found. 240 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.440 All kinds of stuff. And I mean when. 241 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.559 I say it took us three hours to go a 242 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:02.279 mile up the road, I'm not kidding, because every seventy 243 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.519 five hundred feet we had to stop because there was 244 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:10.480 something else that just didn't fit this picture. By the 245 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.799 time we got a mile up, there was an embankment, 246 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:15.639 and we were looking for animal sign. 247 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.360 On the side of the embankments. 248 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:25.360 Deer trail places where the leaf litter was disturbed. And 249 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.000 Bill spied a deer trail, and so we stopped and 250 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.759 we hopped out, and as he was looking at the 251 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.519 deer trail, obviously looking to see if maybe there were 252 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:40.600 some footprints that were nearby, I found footprints a little 253 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:42.039 further down the embankment. 254 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.919 They were probably. 255 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:49.799 Sixteen to seventeen inches long by eight inches wide, but 256 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.399 they were old because they had leaf litter in them. 257 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.159 And Bill, when I shouted that I see a print, 258 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:00.879 I see toes. Bill started going down further down the 259 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.079 hill when he saw what looked like a washout on 260 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.279 the side of a really steep part of the embankment, 261 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.480 and as his angle and perspective changed, he suddenly shouts 262 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:15.079 out icy toes. And it turned out that this was 263 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:21.039 a print that had been freshly made that morning. It 264 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.599 was undeniable, the ridges were clean. We ended up finding 265 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.279 two knuckle prints and a knee print directly under it. 266 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:34.079 Because the embankment was so steep that when the fourth 267 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.759 person jumped up onto the embankment, they started to slip, 268 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.359 so they had to put both hands down because you 269 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:44.680 could see the knuckleplint prints clearly, and a knee to 270 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:49.720 keep from sliding down this really steep embankment. So we 271 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:54.119 were thrilled, and it was a very challenging angle. So 272 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.960 we sat there and tried to engineer a way that 273 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.559 we could create a form so that we could cast print, 274 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:07.079 and we went up to go look at some other 275 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.599 spots that day that Monday. We're at about five hours 276 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:16.640 at this point of investigating, and my brain was literally 277 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.839 hitting overload at that point, and. 278 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.079 So we talked about it. 279 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:25.799 I decided to spend the night down there, and we 280 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:30.440 were coming back up on Tuesday, twenty ninth, so that 281 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.599 we could cast that print. And we came up with 282 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:38.640 a really ingenious way of making a cardboard form that 283 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.400 we could nail over it or the plaster in from 284 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:41.839 the top. 285 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:42.160 It was. 286 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:47.119 It was quite a feed of engineering, and so the 287 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.640 whole plan on Tuesday was for me to spend the night, 288 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:53.920 go back up on Tuesday and cast that print. Well, 289 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.880 we got all of our supplies and we got all 290 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:01.680 the way up there, and right before we're doing this, 291 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.000 we're sitting in the van having a little lunch, and 292 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.160 being that I'm a professional photographer, I was looking at 293 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.839 some harsh transitions between light and shadow on the road. 294 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.720 And while I'm staring at this one transition, which I'm 295 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.480 trying to figure out in my head what camera settings 296 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.640 I would use to capture this, because typically with this 297 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:33.279 kind of contrast, either the light spots wash out or 298 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.319 the dark spots become so dark that there's no detail 299 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.599 in it. And I'm sitting there trying to figure out 300 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:43.319 how I would photograph this transition. When I see what 301 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:47.039 looks like a heat shimmer like you would see in 302 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:53.480 the desert on hot asphalt move across the road on 303 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:55.920 the edge of the light dark transition. 304 00:19:58.079 --> 00:19:59.319 That wasn't the weird part. 305 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.119 Weird part was it looked like feet that were shuffling. 306 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.640 And you've seen this effect if you've ever been out 307 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:09.519 on the desert and looked at the horizon. It looks 308 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:13.640 like a mirage because it's literally the waves of heat 309 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:19.920 moving in the air. And these conditions couldn't exist on 310 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:25.400 the mountain. It was not hot enough, the road is dirt. 311 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.680 It couldn't have absorbed enough heat to do this. And 312 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.920 I'm like, well, that's weird. So I said, Bill, did 313 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.880 you see that? And he's like, see what? And so 314 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.640 I described it to him and he started telling me 315 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:43.480 about something they call the woo, which again I don't 316 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:47.640 know anything about this. I'm out on a class and 317 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.920 he's like, you probably just saw one. And I was like, like, 318 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:57.000 you're serious and he's like yes, And so I still 319 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:03.000 wasn't quite buying it. We finished lunch, we finished the forms, 320 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.039 We had the plaster ready to go, and I took 321 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:09.880 the form to go put it up on the print 322 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:11.440 so that we could cast this print. 323 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:11.680 Again. 324 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.839 That was our sole mission. On Tuesday, was to cast 325 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:20.880 this footprint. And as I walk up, start climbing up 326 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.720 the embankment, and when I say it's a steep embankment, 327 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.759 it's greater than forty five degrees. 328 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.240 I'm not even within five feet. 329 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.359 When Bill says he sees the details of the print, 330 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:42.519 particularly the ridges that were between the toes, start disintegrating 331 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:46.359 before his eyes, and I look and you literally see 332 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.519 all of those details fall into the hill, which at 333 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.920 that point we realized it was kind of a waste 334 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:53.920 of time to try to cast this because we weren't 335 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.359 going to get any of the detail. So we were 336 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.920 very disappointed. Walked around the edge of the embankment. We 337 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.440 didn't want to walk on the embankment because we didn't 338 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:09.200 want to destroy what was already there, and we walked 339 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:12.720 up on top of the hill where we found forty 340 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:17.359 more prints on the hill, including one that was twenty 341 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:22.640 two inches by twelve inches. And that's when I first 342 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:27.559 saw my first Sasquatch Highway, what literally looks like a 343 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:31.599 hallway that's been carved through the trees, where the branches 344 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.720 on the inside of the hallway have been stripped to 345 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:37.599 the tree trunk. Yet the branches on the outside of 346 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.319 the trees are intact. It literally looked like a freight 347 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.359 train had plowed its way through the forest. And that's 348 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:47.920 what he was explaining to me, that, yes, they make 349 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:52.079 these corridors, these highways to make it easier to go 350 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.319 between the areas that they frequent and again, I'm a 351 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:56.279 complete novice. 352 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:57.960 I don't know any of this stuff. 353 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.440 So disappointed, he decided to take me up to a 354 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.880 couple other locations in his research area and places where 355 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:13.599 he's found evidence and had sightings. And we'd been up 356 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.119 there probably four or five hours when he said, well, 357 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.319 I'm going to take you to this spot where I 358 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.480 saw my last sighting, where I had a forty five 359 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.039 minute hangout with them in the area. And I was 360 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:30.319 like completely intrigued by this. I was like, sure, let's go. 361 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.759 And we get up there and we're looking around and 362 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.400 he had some photographs of the time when he was there, 363 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.160 and I was trying to walk the ground to compare 364 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:49.240 the angles and to you know, verify that yes, this 365 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.880 was where he took this photograph. 366 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.519 It's an investigative technique that. 367 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.079 If I can stand in the same place where someone 368 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.119 is taking a photograph, it lends veracity to their photo 369 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:05.000 because I was able to duplicate the angle. While I'm 370 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:08.839 trying to do this, Bill notices toe marks on the 371 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:10.720 embankment a little further up the road. 372 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.000 He goes, I see toes. They look so fresh, So 373 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:15.720 I stop. 374 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.559 I go over and I'm looking at it, and he's 375 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:23.400 busy photographing. And while he's doing that, I get the 376 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:28.559 sensation that I'm being stared at, that there is eyes 377 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:33.200 on me. It's a creepy kind of feeling, and it's 378 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.920 one that I've paid attention to my whole life and 379 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:41.000 my whole career. So I stop, I look up, I 380 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:46.400 start scanning around, and about seventy five feet up the embankment, 381 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.640 in the crook of a y shaped tree is a 382 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:58.559 head and shoulders and the blackest fur I've ever seen, 383 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.640 And by black, I mean light absorbing black. There was 384 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:08.359 no sheene, no reflection. And I stood there looking at it, 385 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:16.000 having my camera ready to shoot in my hand. I 386 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.519 had an argument with myself. I'm like, Okay, you're up 387 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:22.920 here to learn about this and you want to see 388 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.720 one really bad. Are you really seeing what you think 389 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.640 you're seeing or is your mind playing tricks on you? 390 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.079 Because you really want to see one. And even though 391 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:34.920 I had a camera in my hand, I didn't have 392 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:39.480 the presence of mind to take a photo. I was 393 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.720 literally looking at something that I've been told doesn't exist. 394 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.240 I did have enough presence of mind to mark a 395 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.720 spot on the ground where I was standing with my 396 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:54.119 heel so that I could walk away and then come 397 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.839 back and stand in the exact same position and see 398 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.759 if it was there. So I marked the ground, walked 399 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:05.079 about twenty yards to where Bill was photographing the footprints 400 00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.680 on the embankment, took my own shot of one of 401 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.799