Speaker 1: Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
Speaker 1: another episode of my big foot sighting? All right, then
Speaker 1: let's do this.
Speaker 2: Seen a bunch of rundown no horse towns, where the
Speaker 2: church at the backbonels and the bow and the fasting
Speaker 2: melodies cove in with the bomb man rose with the roofs,
Speaker 2: run deep beyond the nose of the busy streets with
Speaker 2: the songs of the South of su. Then when I
Speaker 2: hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm bringing out
Speaker 2: I Don't Run from Banjung music.
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Speaker 4: My bigfoot sightings started about a year ago. It was
Speaker 4: March the first, twenty twenty five, and a friend of
Speaker 4: mine who's a member of the BFRO called me up
Speaker 4: and asked me if I'd like to go out looking
Speaker 4: for bigfoot. And since I'd never been out there before,
Speaker 4: I said why not. So we went to an area
Speaker 4: not far from where I live that is a reservoir
Speaker 4: that is backed up by BLM land and we started
Speaker 4: driving around looking for bigfoot. And since I'd never been before.
Speaker 4: I didn't have any idea of what I was doing.
Speaker 4: I was basically me trying to learn from someone that
Speaker 4: was more experienced. And as we drove around these mountain
Speaker 4: roads in this area, I had been up there before
Speaker 4: and had noticed some very strange looking trees, things that
Speaker 4: were didn't look natural. And as we drove around, we
Speaker 4: were drinking iced tea and I had to relieve myself.
Speaker 4: So I asked my friend to pull over, and we
Speaker 4: found a spot that we could do and I went.
Speaker 1: Over to water a tree.
Speaker 4: And while I was standing there, I noticed there were
Speaker 4: three young trees that were coming from different directions that
Speaker 4: were woven together. It was over a game trail, and
Speaker 4: it just looked really odd. So I wasn't really a researcher,
Speaker 4: so I asked him to go ahead and snap a
Speaker 4: picture while I illuminated with my flashlights. This kind of
Speaker 4: triggered something in me, and when I got home, I
Speaker 4: started searching the internet for tree structures and Bigfoot. Now
Speaker 4: the whole reason I was interested in going out with
Speaker 4: him to do this.
Speaker 1: This is back in.
Speaker 4: September of twenty twenty three. I was taking my garbage
Speaker 4: out to the street, placing the can at the edge
Speaker 4: so that they could pick it up. And I heard
Speaker 4: this really strange whistle and it wasn't like a human whistle.
Speaker 4: It lasted way too long and it was very strange tones.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 4: I lived near a winery and this was a Thursday
Speaker 4: night at about midnight, and the people that work the
Speaker 4: winery start working before the sun comes up, so by
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock at night they are asleep. And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's my neighbors. I don't think they're
Speaker 4: imbibing their own products, especially on a Thursday night. I
Speaker 4: was really confused about it. So a week passed and
Speaker 4: again it was trash night. I was taking my trash
Speaker 4: back out to the street again and I heard what
Speaker 4: was a very strange howl, and it sounded a bit
Speaker 4: like a canine howl, but it was really long, and
Speaker 4: at the end of it it dropped.
Speaker 1: Into deep bass tones.
Speaker 4: And so I didn't know what to make of this,
Speaker 4: and I didn't say anything to anybody, because you know,
Speaker 4: I'm hearing strange sounds out on my property. And so
Speaker 4: the following Sunday, when I was at church, I asked
Speaker 4: my pastor, you know, I heard some strange sounds. What
Speaker 4: do you think this could be? Well, it turns out
Speaker 4: he and one of the members, another member of my church,
Speaker 4: said it was Sathquatch, and of course I was very skeptical.
Speaker 4: I literally said, no way, that's not what I heard,
Speaker 4: because to me, fath Watch was the local legend that
Speaker 4: my neighbors took advantage of selling chainsaw carvings of the creature.
Speaker 4: I just thought it was a tourist trap kind of thing,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't something that was even on my radar
Speaker 4: or anything that I had interest in. And so my pastor,
Speaker 4: Kevin Linley, started sending me audio samples of Ron Moorhead's
Speaker 4: Sierra sounds, and I listened to all of them, and
Speaker 4: he sent me six clips. And it wasn't until I
Speaker 4: was about halfway through the last clip that he sent
Speaker 4: me that I heard the exact whistle that I heard
Speaker 4: from my driveway, and literally the hair stood up on
Speaker 4: my arms. I was like, you got to be kidding me,
Speaker 4: this thing's real. And so that got me curious. So
Speaker 4: when I went out on March first, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: I went out with Ed, who is the gentleman who
Speaker 4: also goes to my church he and I went up
Speaker 4: on the mountain and when I found that tree weave
Speaker 4: and came back and searched it.
Speaker 1: I searched for tree structures.
Speaker 4: And bigfoot and I wasn't expecting anything, but I got
Speaker 4: over one hundred thousand hits on the search engine.
Speaker 1: It literally blew my mind.
Speaker 4: So I started looking at all the photographs because I
Speaker 4: was like, well, maybe i'll see one that looks like
Speaker 4: what I saw. And it was very interesting, but this
Speaker 4: wasn't something I was pursuing. So we flashed forward to
Speaker 4: April twenty sixth to twenty twenty five and Ed calls
Speaker 4: me up and says, let's go out bigfooting again. And
Speaker 4: I was sitting at home watching a John Wayne movie
Speaker 4: that I've seen a hundred times already, so I was like, sure,
Speaker 4: let's go. And on that adventure, we found some actual evidence.
Speaker 4: We found some animal bones that had been broken. But
Speaker 4: the interesting thing about the brakes is that they were
Speaker 4: twist fractures where the bone had literally been twisted and
Speaker 4: the ends were splintered. You could literally see the torsion.
Speaker 4: What was interesting about the bones is that there were
Speaker 4: no teeth marks. If it had been a regular predator,
Speaker 4: like a mountain lion or a bear. There would have
Speaker 4: been teeth marks on the bone as it was peeling
Speaker 4: the flesh from the bone, and there wasn't any of that,
Speaker 4: and so that had me curious. Gone, okay, that's very strange.
Speaker 4: And again, this wasn't something that I was pursuing. And
Speaker 4: so at the beginning of June, Kevin asked me if
Speaker 4: I would like to go and help him out with
Speaker 4: his booth at the festival. And I was like, well,
Speaker 4: what festival are you talking about? And he said, oh,
Speaker 4: well in Glide, because I live in the Unca Valley
Speaker 4: of Oregon, just outside of Roseberg, and Glide has a
Speaker 4: squatch festival every year.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well what festival.
Speaker 4: He said, well, it's the Glide Sasquatch Festival and I
Speaker 4: need some help with my booth. So when a friend
Speaker 4: asked you to help out, you go help out. Again,
Speaker 4: this wasn't something that I was interested in. In fact,
Speaker 4: it was kind of a little side joke that was
Speaker 4: running with me. And what I did all day was
Speaker 4: basically keep the rain off of his cat the footprints,
Speaker 4: and during the course of the festival, which was on Saturday,
Speaker 4: one of the presenters was Todd Nice, And again I
Speaker 4: didn't know who anybody was in the sasquatch research field.
Speaker 4: I didn't know who any podcasters were. I didn't even
Speaker 4: know who Ron Moorehead was. I didn't know who anybody was.
Speaker 4: And so I was having a conversation with Todd Nice,
Speaker 4: basically trying to learn, and our conversation drifted into infrasound.
Speaker 4: Being that I'm a filmmaker and have an extensive resume
Speaker 4: in the business, there are certain frequencies that affect human physiology,
Speaker 4: and as an animator, you need to be aware of
Speaker 4: these things because it can happen with sound, strobing, lights,
Speaker 4: or frame rates of film, and you kind of need
Speaker 4: to avoid these because certain frequencies can cause epileptic seizures
Speaker 4: and it's really bad publicity if the patrons are flopping
Speaker 4: on the floor of the movie theater, really not a
Speaker 4: good thing. So this conversation maybe went ten minutes, and
Speaker 4: I watched Todd's presentation and afterwards, you know, I was
Speaker 4: critiquing it because I'm basically as smarty pants, and he
Speaker 4: invited me to a researcher's only retreat called Beachfoot, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I'm not a researcher. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 4: but you have knowledge we don't have. And so I
Speaker 4: wasn't sure I was going to go, and Ed, who
Speaker 4: I'd been out with, finally decided that we should go.
Speaker 4: And so we went to Camp Wilkerson, which is to
Speaker 4: the northwest of Portland, for the last ever Beachfoot And
Speaker 4: it's basically a camp out where all the researchers get
Speaker 4: to the public's not invited. There's no merchandise sales. It's
Speaker 4: not like any of the other festivals. And again, the
Speaker 4: only person that I knew there was Todd, who I'd met,
Speaker 4: and Ed, who I go to church with. So I
Speaker 4: walk into the pavilion and here's this cool old guy
Speaker 4: with a really neat hat, and I'm like, nice hat.
Speaker 4: So I sit down and start talking to him. And
Speaker 4: I should mention that Kevin had given me a list
Speaker 4: of Sasquatch research luminaries. He said, have you run into
Speaker 4: any of these people, you should talk to them, and
Speaker 4: I said, talk to him about what he goes, just
Speaker 4: be yourself. And so I sat down at the table
Speaker 4: with this old guy with the hat and was chatting
Speaker 4: with him for about fifteen minutes. And realized that I
Speaker 4: was being rude and hadn't introduced myself.
Speaker 1: So I said, Hi, my.
Speaker 4: Name's Stan, and he said Hi, my name's Ron and
Speaker 4: I said, as in Ron Moorhead.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, that's me, and I went.
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to talk to you, and Ron, being really
Speaker 4: quick on the comeback, said well you've been talking to
Speaker 4: me for fifteen minutes already, which we laughed about. And
Speaker 4: you know, I was milling around just meeting people, getting
Speaker 4: first names. I didn't know who anybody was, and watched
Speaker 4: a couple of the presenters and learned some new things,
Speaker 4: even fixed the audio before they started because there were
Speaker 4: some problems with the microphones, so some presenters are better
Speaker 4: than others. And I smoked, so I went out back
Speaker 4: to go have a cigarette, where I met a gentleman
Speaker 4: named William Morris.
Speaker 1: And William, who I.
Speaker 4: Know is Bill because that's how I introduced himself, was
Speaker 4: also one of the names that was on my list.
Speaker 4: So when I said, hey, wait a minute, i'm supposed
Speaker 4: to talk to you. You're on my list, he said
Speaker 4: what list? And I explained the whole situation, and Bill
Speaker 4: and I had a really lengthy conversation that evolved over
Speaker 4: the course of that Fourth of July weekend, since that's
Speaker 4: when they held Beachfoot. And here at Beachfoot, I met
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of other researchers and investigators and heard
Speaker 4: all kinds of phenomenal evidence. But I'm still very skeptical
Speaker 4: about this whole thing. I hadn't seen one of the time time,
Speaker 4: I'd only heard noises and seen a tree weave. But
Speaker 4: that was enough to peque my curiosity to where I
Speaker 4: wanted to learn more. So during the course of the weekend,
Speaker 4: Bill and I became really good friends. We were talking
Speaker 4: about everything and everything under the sun, and we barely
Speaker 4: even touched on the big hairy guys. And it was
Speaker 4: Saturday night that we were standing out back when we
Speaker 4: heard a whoop, and everybody else at the place was like, oh,
Speaker 4: did you hear that?
Speaker 1: They were kind of freaking out running around, and Bill was.
Speaker 4: So nonchalant about the whole thing, and he told me
Speaker 4: that he'd had quite a few sightings at that time.
Speaker 1: So we exchanged.
Speaker 4: Numbers and he invited me up to take a class,
Speaker 4: and he was going to take me out in the
Speaker 4: woods and show me how to look for evidence, you know,
Speaker 4: what I should be looking for, tree breaks, tree structures
Speaker 4: what he called sasquatch highways, which are basically hallways that
Speaker 4: have been carved through the trees that they frequent and
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, Wow, this is great. I
Speaker 4: got an expert who's willing to take me out in
Speaker 4: the field and show me what I should be looking for.
Speaker 4: And the whole idea was if I knew what I
Speaker 4: was looking for, that when I was out hunting or
Speaker 4: hiking in my local area, I would be able to
Speaker 4: recognize evidence of their activity. And so it took a
Speaker 4: little while to coordinate, and at the end of July
Speaker 4: we ended up having a point in our schedules where
Speaker 4: I could get down there, and so I went down
Speaker 4: on a Monday, the twenty eighth of July for what
Speaker 4: was supposed to be a three or four hour CLI.
Speaker 1: And the class stopped being a class.
Speaker 4: After our first stop at a tree structure that we
Speaker 4: have since dubbed the cathedral because that's what it looks like,
Speaker 4: and it turned into a full blown investigation. From that
Speaker 4: point forward, we couldn't move fifty to seventy five feet
Speaker 4: down the road without seeing a tree break, a tree structure,
Speaker 4: and by tree break, I'm not just talking a tree
Speaker 4: that broke and fell over. I'm talking two or three branches,
Speaker 4: all broken in the same direction, all seven to eight
Speaker 4: feet up off the ground, with no other damage to
Speaker 4: any of the other trees in the area. This got
Speaker 4: my curiosity going even more, and we found.
Speaker 1: All kinds of stuff. And I mean when.
Speaker 4: I say it took us three hours to go a
Speaker 4: mile up the road, I'm not kidding, because every seventy
Speaker 4: five hundred feet we had to stop because there was
Speaker 4: something else that just didn't fit this picture. By the
Speaker 4: time we got a mile up, there was an embankment,
Speaker 4: and we were looking for animal sign.
Speaker 1: On the side of the embankments.
Speaker 4: Deer trail places where the leaf litter was disturbed. And
Speaker 4: Bill spied a deer trail, and so we stopped and
Speaker 4: we hopped out, and as he was looking at the
Speaker 4: deer trail, obviously looking to see if maybe there were
Speaker 4: some footprints that were nearby, I found footprints a little
Speaker 4: further down the embankment.
Speaker 1: They were probably.
Speaker 4: Sixteen to seventeen inches long by eight inches wide, but
Speaker 4: they were old because they had leaf litter in them.
Speaker 4: And Bill, when I shouted that I see a print,
Speaker 4: I see toes. Bill started going down further down the
Speaker 4: hill when he saw what looked like a washout on
Speaker 4: the side of a really steep part of the embankment,
Speaker 4: and as his angle and perspective changed, he suddenly shouts
Speaker 4: out icy toes. And it turned out that this was
Speaker 4: a print that had been freshly made that morning. It
Speaker 4: was undeniable, the ridges were clean. We ended up finding
Speaker 4: two knuckle prints and a knee print directly under it.
Speaker 4: Because the embankment was so steep that when the fourth
Speaker 4: person jumped up onto the embankment, they started to slip,
Speaker 4: so they had to put both hands down because you
Speaker 4: could see the knuckleplint prints clearly, and a knee to
Speaker 4: keep from sliding down this really steep embankment. So we
Speaker 4: were thrilled, and it was a very challenging angle. So
Speaker 4: we sat there and tried to engineer a way that
Speaker 4: we could create a form so that we could cast print,
Speaker 4: and we went up to go look at some other
Speaker 4: spots that day that Monday. We're at about five hours
Speaker 4: at this point of investigating, and my brain was literally
Speaker 4: hitting overload at that point, and.
Speaker 1: So we talked about it.
Speaker 4: I decided to spend the night down there, and we
Speaker 4: were coming back up on Tuesday, twenty ninth, so that
Speaker 4: we could cast that print. And we came up with
Speaker 4: a really ingenious way of making a cardboard form that
Speaker 4: we could nail over it or the plaster in from
Speaker 4: the top.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was quite a feed of engineering, and so the
Speaker 4: whole plan on Tuesday was for me to spend the night,
Speaker 4: go back up on Tuesday and cast that print. Well,
Speaker 4: we got all of our supplies and we got all
Speaker 4: the way up there, and right before we're doing this,
Speaker 4: we're sitting in the van having a little lunch, and
Speaker 4: being that I'm a professional photographer, I was looking at
Speaker 4: some harsh transitions between light and shadow on the road.
Speaker 4: And while I'm staring at this one transition, which I'm
Speaker 4: trying to figure out in my head what camera settings
Speaker 4: I would use to capture this, because typically with this
Speaker 4: kind of contrast, either the light spots wash out or
Speaker 4: the dark spots become so dark that there's no detail
Speaker 4: in it. And I'm sitting there trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how I would photograph this transition. When I see what
Speaker 4: looks like a heat shimmer like you would see in
Speaker 4: the desert on hot asphalt move across the road on
Speaker 4: the edge of the light dark transition.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the weird part.
Speaker 4: Weird part was it looked like feet that were shuffling.
Speaker 4: And you've seen this effect if you've ever been out
Speaker 4: on the desert and looked at the horizon. It looks
Speaker 4: like a mirage because it's literally the waves of heat
Speaker 4: moving in the air. And these conditions couldn't exist on
Speaker 4: the mountain. It was not hot enough, the road is dirt.
Speaker 4: It couldn't have absorbed enough heat to do this. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, that's weird. So I said, Bill, did
Speaker 4: you see that? And he's like, see what? And so
Speaker 4: I described it to him and he started telling me
Speaker 4: about something they call the woo, which again I don't
Speaker 4: know anything about this. I'm out on a class and
Speaker 4: he's like, you probably just saw one. And I was like, like,
Speaker 4: you're serious and he's like yes, And so I still
Speaker 4: wasn't quite buying it. We finished lunch, we finished the forms,
Speaker 4: We had the plaster ready to go, and I took
Speaker 4: the form to go put it up on the print
Speaker 4: so that we could cast this print.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: That was our sole mission. On Tuesday, was to cast
Speaker 4: this footprint. And as I walk up, start climbing up
Speaker 4: the embankment, and when I say it's a steep embankment,
Speaker 4: it's greater than forty five degrees.
Speaker 1: I'm not even within five feet.
Speaker 4: When Bill says he sees the details of the print,
Speaker 4: particularly the ridges that were between the toes, start disintegrating
Speaker 4: before his eyes, and I look and you literally see
Speaker 4: all of those details fall into the hill, which at
Speaker 4: that point we realized it was kind of a waste
Speaker 4: of time to try to cast this because we weren't
Speaker 4: going to get any of the detail. So we were
Speaker 4: very disappointed. Walked around the edge of the embankment. We
Speaker 4: didn't want to walk on the embankment because we didn't
Speaker 4: want to destroy what was already there, and we walked
Speaker 4: up on top of the hill where we found forty
Speaker 4: more prints on the hill, including one that was twenty
Speaker 4: two inches by twelve inches. And that's when I first
Speaker 4: saw my first Sasquatch Highway, what literally looks like a
Speaker 4: hallway that's been carved through the trees, where the branches
Speaker 4: on the inside of the hallway have been stripped to
Speaker 4: the tree trunk. Yet the branches on the outside of
Speaker 4: the trees are intact. It literally looked like a freight
Speaker 4: train had plowed its way through the forest. And that's
Speaker 4: what he was explaining to me, that, yes, they make
Speaker 4: these corridors, these highways to make it easier to go
Speaker 4: between the areas that they frequent and again, I'm a
Speaker 4: complete novice.
Speaker 1: I don't know any of this stuff.
Speaker 4: So disappointed, he decided to take me up to a
Speaker 4: couple other locations in his research area and places where
Speaker 4: he's found evidence and had sightings. And we'd been up
Speaker 4: there probably four or five hours when he said, well,
Speaker 4: I'm going to take you to this spot where I
Speaker 4: saw my last sighting, where I had a forty five
Speaker 4: minute hangout with them in the area. And I was
Speaker 4: like completely intrigued by this. I was like, sure, let's go.
Speaker 4: And we get up there and we're looking around and
Speaker 4: he had some photographs of the time when he was there,
Speaker 4: and I was trying to walk the ground to compare
Speaker 4: the angles and to you know, verify that yes, this
Speaker 4: was where he took this photograph.
Speaker 1: It's an investigative technique that.
Speaker 4: If I can stand in the same place where someone
Speaker 4: is taking a photograph, it lends veracity to their photo
Speaker 4: because I was able to duplicate the angle. While I'm
Speaker 4: trying to do this, Bill notices toe marks on the
Speaker 4: embankment a little further up the road.
Speaker 1: He goes, I see toes. They look so fresh, So
Speaker 1: I stop.
Speaker 4: I go over and I'm looking at it, and he's
Speaker 4: busy photographing. And while he's doing that, I get the
Speaker 4: sensation that I'm being stared at, that there is eyes
Speaker 4: on me. It's a creepy kind of feeling, and it's
Speaker 4: one that I've paid attention to my whole life and
Speaker 4: my whole career. So I stop, I look up, I
Speaker 4: start scanning around, and about seventy five feet up the embankment,
Speaker 4: in the crook of a y shaped tree is a
Speaker 4: head and shoulders and the blackest fur I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: And by black, I mean light absorbing black. There was
Speaker 4: no sheene, no reflection. And I stood there looking at it,
Speaker 4: having my camera ready to shoot in my hand. I
Speaker 4: had an argument with myself. I'm like, Okay, you're up
Speaker 4: here to learn about this and you want to see
Speaker 4: one really bad. Are you really seeing what you think
Speaker 4: you're seeing or is your mind playing tricks on you?
Speaker 4: Because you really want to see one. And even though
Speaker 4: I had a camera in my hand, I didn't have
Speaker 4: the presence of mind to take a photo. I was
Speaker 4: literally looking at something that I've been told doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: I did have enough presence of mind to mark a
Speaker 4: spot on the ground where I was standing with my
Speaker 4: heel so that I could walk away and then come
Speaker 4: back and stand in the exact same position and see
Speaker 4: if it was there. So I marked the ground, walked
Speaker 4: about twenty yards to where Bill was photographing the footprints
Speaker 4: on the embankment, took my own shot of one of
Speaker 4: the footprints on the embankment, and then returned to the
Speaker 4: spot where I was standing. About thirty seconds later, found
Speaker 4: the same tree, found the same spot, and what was
Speaker 4: standing in the crook in the middle of the y
Speaker 4: split was gone, and I was like, oh, it's not
Speaker 4: there anymore. So I thought, just like the iron sights
Speaker 4: on a rifle, if you're slightly off with the blade
Speaker 4: on the barrel, it doesn't line up and you're not
Speaker 4: going to hit the target. I thought, well, maybe I
Speaker 4: lined up a burnt stump or something further up the
Speaker 4: hill that was black, and you know, maybe I am
Speaker 4: you know, it's wishful thinking, you know, maybe I'm not
Speaker 4: seeing what I think i'm seeing. So I start walking
Speaker 4: down the road to change the angle so I can
Speaker 4: look at what's behind and further up up the hillside
Speaker 4: from this wide shaped tree. So I get down probably
Speaker 4: fifty yards, and I can see clearly the whole hillside,
Speaker 4: and there is nothing black anywhere on the hillside. No
Speaker 4: burnt stumps, no mossy rocks, there is nothing black there. Well,
Speaker 4: about another seventy yards further up the hill there was
Speaker 4: a huge tree that had fallen, and the Forest Service
Speaker 4: had come and cut it into smaller chunks so the
Speaker 4: tree wouldn't roll down the hill and take out more trees.
Speaker 4: The base of the tree was probably fifteen feet long
Speaker 4: and easily five to six feet in diameter. And I'm
Speaker 4: scanning the hillside when my eye catches the movement and
Speaker 4: the same black head and shoulders stood up behind the
Speaker 4: base of the tree. And I was thinking, well, maybe
Speaker 4: it's a black bear, because black bears will pop up
Speaker 4: and stand on their hind feet. Well, this stood there
Speaker 4: and we had a staring contest.
Speaker 1: For about two minutes.
Speaker 4: And while it was standing there, it was shifting its
Speaker 4: weight from foot to foot and I'm like, well, bears
Speaker 4: don't do that either, And I said, Bill, do you
Speaker 4: see this?
Speaker 1: And he goes, Bill was.
Speaker 4: Laughing because my facial expression completely changed. He goes, what
Speaker 4: are you seeing? And I go something that's not supposed
Speaker 4: to exist. And he goes, congratulations, You've just had your
Speaker 4: first face to face encounter. He goes, are you afraid?
Speaker 4: I said no. He goes, are you going to freak out?
Speaker 4: I said no. He goes, how are you feeling? I said,
Speaker 4: I'm awestruck because I just saw something that I've been
Speaker 4: told doesn't exist. And he goes, well, just ignore him
Speaker 4: and I said why, he goes, cause the hang around longer.
Speaker 1: If you ignore them, if you don't pay him any attention.
Speaker 4: And so that was my first three sightings on one day.
Speaker 4: The face to face was at six thirty seven pm Tuesday,
Speaker 4: July twenty ninth. I'll never forget the time. It's ingrained
Speaker 4: in my memory forever. At that point, we stopped our
Speaker 4: investigation for the day because I was kind of blown
Speaker 4: away by the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to see anything. I wasn't expecting to
Speaker 1: find any evidence. Again, it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4: A three or four hour class where I was going
Speaker 4: to be taught what kind of evidence to look for
Speaker 4: when I'm out in the woods. I didn't expect it
Speaker 4: to find footprints, to get photos, or to see one,
Speaker 4: and when I did see one, it literally blew my mind.
Speaker 4: I focusing on doing the simple tasks at that point
Speaker 4: was pretty much impossible because my whole perspective on this
Speaker 4: area of research shifted in an instant on that Tuesday evening.
Speaker 4: From that point going forward, strange things have happened. Bill
Speaker 4: and I spent a lot of time on the phone,
Speaker 4: and Bill deserves a metal because he held my hand
Speaker 4: while my mind tried to wrap itself around this new
Speaker 4: version of my reality. And we talked quite a bit,
Speaker 4: and Bill eventually offered me a partnership in research, which
Speaker 4: we are now known as the Sasquatch Puzzle, and we
Speaker 4: have a Facebook page and we have a YouTube channel,
Speaker 4: and we're producing videos about what we find, how we
Speaker 4: find it. We're also planning to do some instructional videos
Speaker 4: on how to do casting and what to look for
Speaker 4: when you're out in the field, and that's been a
Speaker 4: thing that we've been putting together. We just released a
Speaker 4: video last week about some of the weirdness that has
Speaker 4: been happening ever since my sightings. And this weirdness is
Speaker 4: actually happening at my house. I get prints, I get gifts,
Speaker 4: they move stuff in my yard. They've destroyed a few
Speaker 4: things that were in my yard. And the video we
Speaker 4: just did is called the Light Show. I had a
Speaker 4: high pressure sodium lamp in my yard that they were
Speaker 4: manipulating the color on. At least that's what we think
Speaker 4: it is, because when I talked to a couple of
Speaker 4: different engineers, including one from the electric company who maintains
Speaker 4: and it is actually their light, they said, oh yeah, no,
Speaker 4: if it's changing color, it's going to fail immediately. He goes,
Speaker 4: you want us to schedule to come out, and said,
Speaker 4: well wait till it fails.
Speaker 1: It took over ten weeks before it failed, and.
Speaker 4: It would do these weird color shifts and then jump
Speaker 4: back to a normal high pressure sodium light. And again
Speaker 4: I was told, once they start doing this color shift thing,
Speaker 4: failure is imminent.
Speaker 1: And it kept going.
Speaker 4: In fact, Bill came up on one of the days
Speaker 4: we researched in my area here where I live. He
Speaker 4: started interacting with it asking for specific colors and they
Speaker 4: were coming up, which kind of made me a little
Speaker 4: jealous because it's my light at my house. I never
Speaker 4: thought to ask, So the stepped going and eventually the
Speaker 4: bulb burnt out, and when I called, I expected him
Speaker 4: to replace it with another high pressure sodium light because
Speaker 4: I actually enjoyed the light show, and they brought out
Speaker 4: a brand new LED fixture and.
Speaker 1: It was way brighter. And apparently.
Speaker 4: My visitors didn't appreciate that because that was the.
Speaker 1: First time I ever smelled one.
Speaker 4: And I will tell you that is an aroma that
Speaker 4: once you smelled it, there is no mistaking it. It
Speaker 4: was probably one of the worst things I've ever smelled
Speaker 4: in my life. And for the next four nights I
Speaker 4: was treated to that same smell. And I also happened
Speaker 4: to be working on Ron's audio book at the time,
Speaker 4: because I kind of produced Ron moore Heads Voices in
Speaker 4: the Wilderness audio book available on Rodmorehead dot com. And
Speaker 4: it was a complete interesting adventure. And the thing is
Speaker 4: is these adventures continue to be ongoing. I have activity
Speaker 4: practically every day and it's a little strange. But when
Speaker 4: this started, Bill reminded me that he goes no matter
Speaker 4: how big or how small, if it's something that's out
Speaker 4: of the ordinary, you need to document it. So that
Speaker 4: kind of started us on this whole adventure. Now when
Speaker 4: we find strange stuff, it's document, document, document.
Speaker 1: I hate that word. I haven't been out in a
Speaker 1: few weeks because of weather.
Speaker 4: Obviously, some of our research areas are fairly high in elevation,
Speaker 4: and it's not that we can't get there, it's the
Speaker 4: question of whether or not we can get back. At
Speaker 4: the beginning of December, we went with Bill's son to
Speaker 4: a place called Applegate where we found trackways with over
Speaker 4: two hundred prints, and there will be a video coming
Speaker 4: up about our three day adventure. But during that adventure
Speaker 4: we cast probably forty prints out of it, most of
Speaker 4: them being juveniles with mid tarsl breaks and complete accurate
Speaker 4: toe details.
Speaker 1: We found.
Speaker 4: Footprints instructures that were near the area, including one that
Speaker 4: was twenty six inches by fifteen inches, literally the biggest
Speaker 4: foot I've ever seen. There's a photo of it with
Speaker 4: my pack of cigarettes in the middle because I didn't
Speaker 4: have the tape measure on me on my Facebook page.
Speaker 4: The interesting thing about that is there's leaf litter in
Speaker 4: the print. And leaf litter surrounding the print. All of
Speaker 4: the leaf litter surrounding the print is curled, yet the
Speaker 4: leaf litter inside the print is flattened and broken, evidence
Speaker 4: that this was created very very recently, just before I
Speaker 4: found it, and while I was taking photos and tried
Speaker 4: to get measurements, Bill heard a tree break in the area,
Speaker 4: so we assume the maker of the print was still
Speaker 4: in the area. During this three day adventure in the forest,
Speaker 4: in different areas, the forest was eerily quiet, meaning there
Speaker 4: were no bird sounds, no squirrels, no other wildlife at all,
Speaker 4: almost like there was no wind at all.
Speaker 1: Because it was just super quiet.
Speaker 4: It was just a little unnerving, and we kind of
Speaker 4: figured that they were in the area and that they
Speaker 4: were observing us, and it was a reasonable assumption because
Speaker 4: every time we got out, it was just dead silent.
Speaker 4: And I'm used to having squirrels chatter at me when
Speaker 4: I'm walking through the woods. I'm used to hearing the
Speaker 4: birds and the wind and everything else, but none of
Speaker 4: that was happening while we were there. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: been an interesting year since I found my first tree structure,
Speaker 4: and a weird sequence of events that put me into
Speaker 4: the middle of a research field that frankly I never
Speaker 4: considered serious or thought I would have myself involved in.
Speaker 4: So that's my story. It's ongoing. In fact, yesterday Bill
Speaker 4: went back to the applegate looking around to see what's finding,
Speaker 4: and he found some new structures. And we're both eager
Speaker 4: for the weather to break a little bit so we
Speaker 4: can get up there and I can film some of
Speaker 4: what we found. Again, we're not up there actually looking
Speaker 4: for them. What we're looking for is things that don't
Speaker 4: fit the natural paradigm. We're looking for things that looked
Speaker 4: like they were obviously built. Some of the tree structures.
Speaker 4: One of the measurements that we do is we check
Speaker 4: him for alignment, and surprisingly most of them aligned to
Speaker 4: true north on a compass. I was asked recently why
Speaker 4: do I think they do that, and I said, well,
Speaker 4: we do something similar. We call them street signs. Though
Speaker 4: if you weren't in an area for a while and
Speaker 4: you wanted to find your way back, you use street signs. Well,
Speaker 4: it's kind of a similar concept for them. It's all
Speaker 4: very interesting. We never know what we're going to find. Again,
Speaker 4: we're just looking for things that look out of place,
Speaker 4: things that look like they were built. One of our
Speaker 4: videos is called Where's the Trees, where we found trees
Speaker 4: that had been obviously broken off. We found the pine
Speaker 4: bows from the trees, basically the branches that were obviously
Speaker 4: torn off. There were no chips from an axe or
Speaker 4: a hatchet, there were no sawdust from a saw obviously,
Speaker 4: and the branches had stringers of bark coming off of them,
Speaker 4: so they were obviously torn off.
Speaker 1: The problem was in this.
Speaker 4: Twenty foot by twenty foot area there was seven trees
Speaker 4: that were missing. The pine bows were there, but all
Speaker 4: of the trunks of the trees were missing, and within
Speaker 4: about fifty feet we found a trackway of footprints. They
Speaker 4: were washed out and it was raining pretty.
Speaker 1: Good that day.
Speaker 4: As we started panning around and spreading out and doing
Speaker 4: a grid search, we found several more footprints and over
Speaker 4: one hundred tree breaks, and it ended with us finding
Speaker 4: another Sasquatch highway, another tunnel or hallway going through the forest.
Speaker 4: So what we thought was just a weird anomaly turned
Speaker 4: out to be an area of high activity. And every
Speaker 4: time we go out we tend to find something and again,
Speaker 4: and we're not looking for bigfoot, we're not looking for Sasquatch.
Speaker 4: We're just looking for things that don't seem to fit. Exes, arches,
Speaker 4: tree stacks, teps. The amount of structures are just amazing.
Speaker 4: And they're not just here in Oregon. I've seen photos
Speaker 4: from the Colorado Bigfoot Society. I've seen photos from New
Speaker 4: Jersey Sasquatch. I've seen photos from the Florida group, And amazingly,
Speaker 4: all of the tree structures have so many similarities that
Speaker 4: this cannot be a coincidence. And the fact that it's
Speaker 4: all across the country tells me that this is something
Speaker 4: And I really would love to learn what these structures
Speaker 4: and what these symbols actually mean. And it's not like
Speaker 4: the forest people hang out and let us know. And
Speaker 4: by the way, forest people is the term that we prefer,
Speaker 4: because they are people, they appear to have family structures.
Speaker 4: They build these sites, and I mean, you wouldn't build
Speaker 4: something if you weren't going to use it. You wouldn't
Speaker 4: build a house and then not live in it. So
Speaker 4: if they're going to take the time and energy to
Speaker 4: build something, a structure of some sort, this is obviously
Speaker 4: a place where they return quite often. And so it's
Speaker 4: been a mind boggling year, the structures the evidence. I
Speaker 4: have a couple of twists that we have cut from
Speaker 4: the forest. Tree brakes where they twist are kind of
Speaker 4: interesting because in order to twist something, you need an
Speaker 4: opposable thumb to grip, and you need a wrist to
Speaker 4: be able to rotate. So when we find suff like this,
Speaker 4: it's kind of shocking, especially since some of these branches
Speaker 4: that are broken and twisted are several inches in diameter,
Speaker 4: and there's no way a human being, I don't care
Speaker 4: how strong or how much weight they lift, you could
Speaker 4: not break this three inch branch and twist it anywhere
Speaker 4: from ninety to two hundred and seventy degrees. Again, we
Speaker 4: take measurements in all of this. One of the things
Speaker 4: we started doing is measuring electromagnetic fields in the area.
Speaker 4: We have noticed that where there are structures, and again
Speaker 4: we're not looking at one or two things. Most of
Speaker 4: the stuff we find are tree brakes, xes, and all
Speaker 4: of these things within a fifty to seventy five foot
Speaker 4: radius of each other. It looks very busy like something
Speaker 4: has been happening. They're ongoing for a while. The more
Speaker 4: interesting ones that we found is in a video of
Speaker 4: ours called dreamweaver where a sixty to seventy foot long
Speaker 4: tree is suspended horizontally, and the horizontal tree is actually
Speaker 4: woven around five other trees, so the horizontal tree is
Speaker 4: no longer straight, it's literally bent around the other trees.
Speaker 4: And if somebody could tell me how that happens naturally,
Speaker 4: I'm all ears because that doesn't make sense. So I
Speaker 4: hope you enjoyed my little story here. It's ongoing and
Speaker 4: there's always something new that seems to be happening.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it for tonight's show.
Speaker 4: If you've had a big foot siding and would like to.
Speaker 3: Be a guest, please go to my Bigfootsiding dot com
Speaker 3: and let us know.
Speaker 5: Thanks. Have a great night.
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