1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio and Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to vpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:36,079 your support. Big news, everybody, Big news, big big, big news. 10 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:42,079 Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden is running for re election. Everyone. 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Oh man, I'm okay with this. Actually I was hoping 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,679 he would not, just to spare us all from more 13 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:59,439 of his maladministration. But he broke the news appropriately enough 14 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:04,599 on the Breaking with Brett Jensen show. What was this 15 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:10,280 Wednesday night? I think it was Wednesday. I think that's right. Yeah, 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,359 he was in studio and he was chatting with Brett. 17 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:18,239 You can catch Breaking with Brett Jensen weekdays here six 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,599 until seven pm. And that's when he made the announcement 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,879 and then sent out the president, Sheriff McFadden running for 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,959 reelection or not. Like a lot of people have been 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,920 anxiously waiting this. 22 00:01:29,079 --> 00:01:30,239 Speaker 2: They have been actually waiting. 23 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:32,439 Speaker 1: What if I give you a card? All right, what's 24 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:35,280 this card here? What that car? Says a man of 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,280 his word. The answer is yes. So if we have 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,599 a couple of coffee on this Oh there it is. 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Look at that. I didn't see that the mug. 28 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: So we have a mug here, and I'm gonna have 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,680 coffee on. Yes, And this is my official announcement. Nobody knew. 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,200 I waited to the day. This is a good place 31 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:57,079 to announce it. Announce it. Yes, I'm going to run 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,599 for reelection. And that's all we're gonna tell you. If 33 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:02,280 you want to know, come and see us, Come and 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,680 have these conversations. One if it's not a fourth, it's 35 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:09,080 a fourth now, and I welcome anybody with the conversations. 36 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:12,199 We're not gonna run, We're not gonna hide. We haven't. 37 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,919 And so somebody says, why because I am not done. 38 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:19,000 I'm not done yet, and because me and the citizens 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,560 of Metonbury County are not done. Uh, And so like 40 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:27,800 I said, the answer is yes, yeah. 41 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I don't. What was the party on? I gotta play 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,560 this again? What was this part? Okay? Number one? Right, 43 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:33,400 I got a lot to unpack just out of this, 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,120 and I've got a whole bunch of cuts from a 45 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,039 lot of the stuff that he was saying on Brett's 46 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:47,199 show the other day. And Okay, first off, I don't 47 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,439 know because it didn't come up. But did he visit 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,400 his childhood home, because that's what he said a week 49 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:59,560 ago or two weeks ago. He said that he expects 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,960 to just sometime this autumn when he visits his childhood 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:11,159 home in South Carolina, praise and reflects. That's what he 52 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:15,719 told the Charlotte Observer on October twenty second. Well that's 53 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,639 when the story was, so maybe it was the twenty first. 54 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:22,560 He said, is it necessary for me to still do 55 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:27,280 this work? He said he is weighing the parts of 56 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:30,000 the job that he likes, namely being in the community, 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,319 against a steady stream of negative news coverage and politics. 58 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:39,560 He said, quote, I love what I do. I don't 59 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:47,000 love being the sheriff. So this is he loves what 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,520 he does. He just doesn't like what he does or something. 61 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:55,800 So I don't know if he visited the childhood home 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 where he made this decision. He said he didn't tell 63 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:02,479 anybody about his decision. I don't know what that means, 64 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:08,560 because he made a mug okay, you like, maybe it 65 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:11,879 was a Zazzle thing or like it's a platform or 66 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,360 a cafe press where you can do like a single 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,879 order of something. So maybe he just made one single 68 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:20,240 mug okay. But all of that's just kind of noise. 69 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:22,360 These are just the questions that go through my head 70 00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:26,079 because it's like, oh, that's interesting. Why did you make 71 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,279 it down to the childhood home for the prayer and reflection? 72 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,600 You say you didn't tell anybody, like, but he did. 73 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:34,959 Later on he says he talked to his family about it, 74 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,839 and apparently some of his staff too, so he did 75 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:40,439 tell people after he just said that he didn't tell anybody. 76 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,920 But anyway, so those are just sort of like loose 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,439 ends for the story. Maybe he's just talking about I 78 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,959 haven't made the announcement yet, he hasn't sent out the 79 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:52,199 press release. And then he sends out the press release. 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,519 He hit send on the email on the air here 81 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:02,639 during Brett's show talking with Brett Jensen. But there's a 82 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,360 part in here at the beginning. Let me see if 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,680 I can just jump to it here card here what 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,879 that car says A man of his word. The answer 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,319 is yes. So we have a couple of coffee on this. 86 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,319 Oh there it is. Look at that. I didn't see 87 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:17,920 that the mug. 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: So we have a mug here, and I'm gonna have 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,279 coffee on. Yes, And this is my official announcement. Nobody knew. 90 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,920 I waited to today. This is a good place to 91 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,720 announce it, and announce it. Yes, I'm going to run 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,000 for reelection. And that's all we're going to tell you. 93 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:35,759 If you want to know, come and see us, come 94 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,920 and have these conversations. 95 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: That's all we're going to tell you. That's all I'm 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,600 going to tell you. Yes, I'm running for reelection. That's 97 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,000 all I'm going to tell you. And if you want 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,120 to know about I don't know, well, then come have 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,759 a conversation. He kept saying this throughout the hour long interview. 100 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,839 And I listened to it twice, Okay, first time to 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,720 record it all into my system, and then the second 102 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,720 time to pull the sound bites out of it. So 103 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:09,120 I've listened. Now that's the third time I've heard this. 104 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:15,120 And he keeps talking about having these conversations, one on 105 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:23,600 one conversations, all about the conversations and such and I'm 106 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,160 kind of reminded of my good friend Ray, the former 107 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:35,879 governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper. Well, no, I no, 108 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:43,560 I call him Ray because that's what his good friend 109 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,079 Hillary Clinton called him. Are you ready to elect Ray 110 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Cooper your governor? Yeah? Yeah, his campaign rally back in 111 00:06:53,560 --> 00:07:02,079 twenty twelve, twenty twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen. Yeah, because that's 112 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,199 when she was running for president. So she and Ray 113 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,319 are tight. But he was attorney general for four terms 114 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:15,879 sixteen years. And remember he had no emails. They did 115 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,360 a foyer request. Media did a foyer request to get 116 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,639 his emails, and he had no emails. He had like 117 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,639 ten and they were all like, you know, donuts in 118 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,720 the break room for staff Appreciation Day, thanks for all 119 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:28,680 your hard work. Like that was the only stuff he 120 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:31,319 ever sent out an email. And I'm supposed to believe that. 121 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:37,879 And the official statement from the AG's office Noel Tally 122 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,279 I believe is her name. Yeah, I think that was 123 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,839 his comms gal. And she's like, oh, well, he prefers 124 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,360 conversations one on one, and there's a reason to do that. 125 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,759 It's the same reason one might set up a private 126 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:57,839 server rather than just you know, using a government issued 127 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,439 email account, or even a I've at sector email account 128 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,759 under a fake name. There's a reason you set up 129 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,959 your own server, right, It's so you can hide stuff 130 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,480 and in one on one conversation there are no notes 131 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:14,959 that get taken, and so then you end up with 132 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:17,639 just my word against your word, if there's ever any 133 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:25,240 disagreement about it. This was also how the corrupt county 134 00:08:25,279 --> 00:08:29,519 manager up in Bunkham County, Wanda Green. This is how 135 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,919 she was able to maintain her corruption for years, siphoning 136 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,360 hundreds of thousands of dollars I think, well, maybe it 137 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 may have been millions, I forget now. But it's how 138 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,399 she was able to siphon all the money out of 139 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:45,200 the county coffers was because she would keep the county 140 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,360 commissioners split apart, and she wouldn't she wouldn't meet with 141 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,480 them all together except during the one meeting every other week, 142 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,879 and then everything she had already met with everybody individually, 143 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,639 and so she had already coordinated all the conversations and 144 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,399 votes and all of that. So by the time you 145 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,120 went to the open session meeting, there wasn't really a 146 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,759 lot to hash out, and nobody knew what each other 147 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:14,279 was thinking on any given issue unless they actually went 148 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:19,720 and talked to every other county commissioner also, So there's 149 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:25,799 an insulation incentive behind these one on one conversations. But 150 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,480 I just I find it interesting. You're making an announcement 151 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:31,000 that you're running for reelection and that's all you're going 152 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,279 to say about it, and if anybody wants to know more, 153 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,759 they have to meet with you one on one. It's 154 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:40,519 a bold strategy, Cotton. We'll see how it works out. 155 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 You know, stories are powerful. 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I don't know if that's a typo. No, 177 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,399 he it was. He announced it and then during Brett show, 178 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,399 he was like, I'm going to hit send on this 179 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,320 email and he sent out the the the press release. 180 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,639 Now I don't know where it's got sent to, so 181 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,759 it may have gone out on social media, but no, 182 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:17,960 that's where he I mean, you just heard it. That's 183 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:27,320 from Wednesday night, and then the story started running yesterday. 184 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,840 Here's another clip from Well hang on a second, let 185 00:11:29,879 --> 00:11:36,080 me do this. Kevin says, the same exact thing happens 186 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 in the business world. If I'm doing business with somebody 187 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,000 and they declined to put what we discussed in writing, 188 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,799 and well, let's just shake on it. I immediately know 189 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:45,720 they are going to try to screw me over. I 190 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:47,440 tell them, if it's not in writing, we aren't going 191 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,440 to be able to work together. I mean, that's just 192 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:56,720 that's smart, I understand. Okay. So after McFadden made this announcement, 193 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:00,159 he of course talked about how he has been and 194 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:04,559 the victim, because if Gary McFadden is not playing the victim, 195 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:10,120 he's playing the hero, and saying, of course that any 196 00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:13,320 of the controversies, any of the scandals, anything that is 197 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:17,519 negative about the Sheriff's office, it's just his critics, it's 198 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:24,240 just the media, it's just disloyal staff members, disloyal black people. 199 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,639 That's what he has said. I brought my whole folder. 200 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,080 I have an entire folder of mcfaddenism's okay, I have 201 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:35,639 a whole digital file of all of the sound bites 202 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,039 that he has provided over his last seven years. Here. 203 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,399 He's going to run for a third term, so of 204 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,440 course he talks about how he's been victimized by his staff, 205 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,399 that I'm not done. 206 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let anybody tell me what to do, 207 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:55,519 how to do it, when to do it, or when 208 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,399 to leave. And that's what I mean, So don't. 209 00:12:57,159 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Twist that. 210 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:04,159 Speaker 2: It was never that I was not completely not saying 211 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,759 I'm not gonna do it. I had to look at 212 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:07,840 my family. I had to look at my wife, had 213 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,440 to look at my kids. I had to look at 214 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,240 people who surround me. And of course we know loyalty 215 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,279 is my big issue. Oh, people are not loyal. I 216 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,320 should ask people before I hired them, are you loyal? 217 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: That's probably not a great interview question because if they're 218 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,960 not loyal, chances are their liars and they're just gonna 219 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,080 lie to you if you ask them if they're loyal. 220 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:37,000 But I'm old enough to remember when people made this 221 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:45,559 a disqualification for a leader, Right, hello, Orange Hitler, Right, 222 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:49,080 that was the knock on Donald Trump for years, like, oh, 223 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,600 he values loyalty above everything else. And here you have 224 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:56,720 a sheriff, sitting sheriff saying that this is like the 225 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:01,360 primary thing for him is loyalty, is what he's saying. 226 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,000 And he has said this for the last several years, 227 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,559 as these top command staffers keep quitting and saying he's 228 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:13,960 running the place like a dictatorship. He has created a 229 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,399 toxic work environment. He's a raging narcissist. And so his 230 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:23,120 response is I need greater loyalty from these people. The 231 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:25,759 beatings will continue until morale improves. 232 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,399 Speaker 2: Loyalty is going to be a part of this campaign, Trustworthiness, 233 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,080 all of that. And so you have to say, do 234 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,200 you want to go through that again knowing who you are? 235 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,919 But take the criticism of people who've never even seen me, 236 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,399 just probably heard me or read something on the TV. 237 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I generally watch stuff on the TV. I don't 238 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:48,200 read stuff on the TV. But point take and look, 239 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:50,679 I'm one of those people. Maybe he's talking about me. 240 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,799 I don't care, like that's me. Yes, I don't know him. 241 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,840 I've never met him personally, but he's still my sheriff. 242 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,799 He's the sheriff of this county. He does public appearances. 243 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:04,399 That's part of the gig. That's part of the thing 244 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,559 that you said you liked when you said you did 245 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:10,360 like being sheriff. You don't love being sheriff, but being 246 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,240 in the community is what he likes. Part of the 247 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:21,120 gig is being available to the media right doing interviews 248 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:25,759 and such, and that means things you say and do 249 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:29,320 are going to be broadcast out and people who are 250 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,159 not going to go sit down with you. They are 251 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:38,080 going to get their information about you from these appearances. 252 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,480 And when you say things like you say, they start, 253 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,399 you know, making an opinion about you when you read. Look, 254 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,360 I've read a lot of stuff about Gary mcfatten. I've 255 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,679 read a lot of stuff from the people who worked 256 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:56,039 with Gary mcfatten. I've gotten messages from people who work 257 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:02,639 with Gary McFadden. I don't know what I mean. I 258 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:07,080 don't understand. I do understand. It's this is he has 259 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,840 to run. Of course he's gonna run, and he says 260 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:18,320 he's gonna make loyalty a focus of the campaign. Please do, 261 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,559 Oh my gosh, please do. I hope you talk about 262 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,039 the loyalty that you demand from all of your command 263 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:30,080 staff and all of your detention officers, all your correction officers, 264 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,240 all your deputies. I hope you make that the primary 265 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,159 focus of your campaign. Please do. 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And yeah, because 294 00:18:24,279 --> 00:18:25,839 I don't know if you heard this, but somebody else 295 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,759 died at the jail, and this news broke just as 296 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:37,799 the sheriff was going on the program with Brett Jensen, 297 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:43,920 and so Brett asked him about this latest death at 298 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,839 the jail. 299 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I saw where the news clips say 300 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,119 waiting for the autopsy. Well, if you look at any autopsy, 301 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:53,039 or look at the findings of the disc attorney's office 302 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,920 or the SBI, it will give you better information than 303 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,559 sensationalize it as only a death, you know, look at 304 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,920 the cause and manner, and then you will get more 305 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,160 information than just saying there's a death at Meccnburg County 306 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,079 Detention Center. 307 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: So what would you prefer us call it? As a 308 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:22,880 member of the media when discussing a uh A deceased 309 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,920 person incident? What what what would you have me called? 310 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:32,319 Or I'm supposed to wait for an autopsy before reporting 311 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:37,759 that there was a death, sorry, a deceasement at the jail. 312 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,400 So what do you what are you even saying? What 313 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,839 are you talking about? There was a death at the 314 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,079 jail that is factual, in fact, that's in keeping with 315 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:58,920 your campaign slogan here where you say factual or fact 316 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:02,039 or something, it's in this It's a three word slogan. 317 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,079 It's like I'm looking forward here in the I think 318 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,920 he'll say it at some point here. But so it's 319 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,759 the media's fault. It's the media's fault, and we should 320 00:20:12,759 --> 00:20:16,559 wait until the full investigation comes out before we report 321 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:18,759 that somebody died at the jail. And if we are 322 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:20,799 going to report that someone died at the jail, we 323 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,559 darn sure better not say a death at the jail, 324 00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:27,440 because that's the problem. That's the problem, not that somebody died, 325 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,759 it's that we call it a death at the jail. 326 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,599 This is the same sort of deflective pose he strikes 327 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,839 whenever anybody calls him out on any of his controversies, 328 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,880 any of his bad behavior. Right, it's always like, well, 329 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,680 you got to look at all the good things that 330 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000 I've done in my life. You got to look at 331 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,200 all this other stuff. No, no, we're just we're just 332 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,319 looking at this one actually, because this one, like this 333 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,359 is another death of the jail. Oh and by the way, 334 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,759 the death at the jail, according to the Charlotte Observer, 335 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,640 a man in the County jail died after being given 336 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:10,240 the wrong medication. Who did that, don't know, but I'm 337 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,119 sure the Observer is wrong to report it like that. Yeah, 338 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,160 he's very critical of the of the media coverage of 339 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,480 any death at the jail. Obviously, Well, we had to 340 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,720 death recently. 341 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: We cannot get into any details about it because it 342 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:33,440 is a parallel investigation with the SBI and other entities, 343 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,079 and so we really can't talk about it. But you know, 344 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,400 it is sad that someone did die at the detention center. 345 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,799 But you know, when people get upset about people dying 346 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:47,039 at the detention center, what we can always say that 347 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:49,559 we're doing the best that we can. We're doing a 348 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:52,759 great job. But most of the deaths there are because 349 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,960 of poor health and poverty and all the other things. 350 00:21:56,319 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: And so was that poverty that led to somebody getting 351 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:09,440 the wrong medication? Was that was that their health. It 352 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,079 was their fault because they were unhealthy and needed medication 353 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,759 and then got the wrong medication and then they died. 354 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,599 That is that what you're talking about? 355 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: Why is it always a big issue because it is 356 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,119 the jail or detention center and I am the sheriff, 357 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,759 which is a part of the lightning rod. 358 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:29,079 Speaker 1: But you know people, no, no, no, no, it's not 359 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,599 because you're the sheriff and you're the lightning rod. No, 360 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,799 it's because there have been so many deaths at the 361 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,519 jail under your tenure number one, number two that the 362 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:43,279 state had to come in and you know, smack your 363 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:45,599 hand a bunch of times because of the way you've 364 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,640 been running the jail. Also, you've had a large number 365 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:56,319 of deputies leave your employment because of you. Okay, it's 366 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,920 not that you're the lightning rod and that's why people 367 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,680 get upset about this. It's because these people are in 368 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:09,480 your care. That's why people get upset. They are legally 369 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,880 forced to be under your supervision, and when they die, 370 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,640 people ask how did that happen? Because you're supposed to 371 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:25,920 be supervising them, and asking how it happened isn't automatically 372 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,920 an accusation, but in his mind, I guess it is 373 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,160 simply asking how did this person die? Could something better 374 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,799 have been done to prevent it? Right, that's what media 375 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,440 is doing when they raise the question, when they raise 376 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,160 when they report on the deaths in the jail. But 377 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:52,160 to him, it's because of him, because that's what narcissists do. 378 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,920 That's I guess that I should not be surprised. 379 00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,839 Speaker 2: We die in res Holmes's clinical places and hospitals everyd and. 380 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: So wait, you don't see any difference between a jail 381 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:08,279 and a rest home, an old age home, a retirement community, 382 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:13,519 a hospital. You see no difference. There is a difference. 383 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,640 People walk into your facility completely healthy, not all of them, 384 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,400 but some of them. They're not going in there for 385 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:27,720 treatment of some life threatening issue like a hospital. They're 386 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,640 not going in there because they are in the twilight 387 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,039 of their life and they are going to be dead soon. 388 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,039 So the natural expectation would be for them to die 389 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,240 there at a rest home, right, because that's why you 390 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:48,079 go to those places. I he really needs somebody to 391 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,200 coach him up on some of these analogies that he uses, 392 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,119 because this one's just dumb, and I've heard him use 393 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,599 it before. This is his go to. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, 413 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,559 but it also supports ground News as they make the 414 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:04,119 media landscape more sparent. Text line message from Jennifer Sheriff, 415 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,279 Not my fault McFadden is pathologically narcissistic. I have never 416 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:12,119 seen anyone who comes close. Hopefully there's been enough bad 417 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,400 press in the last couple of years that people will 418 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,279 take a serious look at the others running against him. 419 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,960 Kevin says, hopefully you won't take offence again, Pete, but 420 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,079 about this point, I didn't take offense again. What okay? 421 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160 But in defense of Gary not my fault McFadden, a 422 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,519 large percentage of those that go into his jail are 423 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,640 on death's door because of heavy drug use and alcoholism. 424 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:42,880 Sure right, I understand that. I have also pointed out 425 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,960 that a lot of people die after they get out 426 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,359 of the jail because they've been clean inside the jail. 427 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:51,559 They get out and then they go and they get 428 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,599 drugs and they overdose because their body isn't used to 429 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,640 it anymore, their tolerance is dropped. But that's in no 430 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,559 way responsive Kevin to his argument, which was a lot 431 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,960 of people come in to the jail, and you know, 432 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,400 they come in and they die just like at a hospital. No, 433 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,480 it's not just like a hospital. If people go in 434 00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,359 with obvious you know, addiction issues and all of that, sure, 435 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:24,119 But when people die because they got the wrong medication, 436 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,440 that's a different thing. You know. That's a different thing. 437 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,240 When someone commits suicide in the jail and nobody goes 438 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,000 around to supervise, to check on them, and that's how 439 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,279 they were able to do it, that's a problem and 440 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,440 that needs to be identified. And because you're supposed to 441 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,880 be supervising them, that's why people get upset about it, 442 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:54,720 which McFadden doesn't. He wants to just kind of any 443 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:58,200 kind of problem. He's minimizing it, and not even artfully. 444 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:00,519 He's not good at it, you know, so it comes 445 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:05,920 across as ham handed, and it's obvious, I think to 446 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:09,720 everybody's that listens to what he says. Let me go 447 00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:13,440 over here and get Alex. Hello, Alex, welcome to the show. 448 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: How are you doing. 449 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm good? What's up? 450 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? I just want to say mcfed reminds me of 451 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Barney Fife with a tan. 452 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,519 Speaker 1: Barney Fife with Okay, with a tan. Yeah, well it's 453 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:29,440 not a tan, he's just black. Alex. Okay, I appreciate 454 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,799 the call. It's not worth a rim shot. You don't 455 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:35,039 get a rim shot for that. Alex Valiant effort. Jean, 456 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,880 Welcome to the show. 457 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,799 Speaker 3: Jean, huh, yes, thank you so much for what you've 458 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:43,400 been saying. I have been so upset when I heard 459 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:50,000 that he was running again. Excuse me, because the best 460 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,880 news I heard was you know that he wasn't out 461 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,799 for good and everything, because honestly, I followed him now 462 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,440 for years since he's been shared, and he has been 463 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:08,720 the most underminded, crooked person that And like I said, 464 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:13,000 I'm sorry I have followed him, and I'd love to 465 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:16,720 know the two gentlemen that left Dill that you know, 466 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,079 just up and left. I can't even think of her 467 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480 names right now, and I've wanted to do that and 468 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,759 call them and say, please tell me your reasons, because 469 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,519 they didn't leave, give any reasons. 470 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Oh yes they did. Oh no, no, no, no, no no. 471 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960 I had one of them on the show. Former Chief 472 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,559 Deputy Kevin Canty. 473 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't hear any here, had him. 474 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,799 Speaker 1: On and then his successor for less than a year 475 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 he quit, wrote an open letter. Canty wrote an open letter, 476 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,440 did a bunch of interviews. You've got his former chief 477 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200 of detention to Lisa White, she said he's not a 478 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,559 good leader. In an interview with the Observer last month. 479 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:56,440 So I mean, there have been a ton of people 480 00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:59,839 that have quit and have gone public with their reasonings. 481 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960 So I mean, it's just it's a matter of whether 482 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,319 or not people in the Democrat primary are going to 483 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,400 pick somebody other than McFadden. And he's got challengers. He's 484 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 got three challengers, and Gene I appreciate the call. He's 485 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:20,200 got former chief Deputy Rodney Collins, former detention officer Antoine Nance, 486 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:25,240 and Charlotte Mecklenburg Police sergeant Ricky Robbins. And Ricky Robbins, 487 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:26,680 I think, is the one that had a bunch of 488 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:31,640 endorsements from like Carolina Panther players. So like he's got 489 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,200 some stiff competition in the Democrat primary. I think, you know, 490 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,160 the concern is that you end up with too many 491 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,039 candidates and then they split all of the anti McFadden vote. 492 00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:45,720 That's going to be the that's going to be the problem. 493 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,519 And I don't know if you know, well, I think 494 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,079 there may already be a Republican who has announced, but 495 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,319 a Republican running county wide is going to be very difficult, 496 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,839 you know, to be a Democrat, just because people are 497 00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:02,400 going to vote for the party affiliation. So this is 498 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,920 where we are. Will it matter to Democrat voters? We 499 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:13,119 shall see. All right. That'll do it for this episode. 500 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,279 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 501 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,480 the show without your support and the support of the 502 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,559 businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, 503 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,759 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 504 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 505 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,119 or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so 506 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,799 much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.