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Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden is running for re election. Everyone.
Oh man, I'm okay with this. Actually I was hoping
he would not, just to spare us all from more
of his maladministration. But he broke the news appropriately enough
on the Breaking with Brett Jensen show. What was this
Wednesday night? I think it was Wednesday. I think that's right. Yeah,
he was in studio and he was chatting with Brett.
You can catch Breaking with Brett Jensen weekdays here six
until seven pm. And that's when he made the announcement
and then sent out the president, Sheriff McFadden running for
reelection or not. Like a lot of people have been
anxiously waiting this.
Speaker 2: They have been actually waiting.
Speaker 1: What if I give you a card? All right, what's
this card here? What that car? Says a man of
his word. The answer is yes. So if we have
a couple of coffee on this Oh there it is.
Look at that. I didn't see that the mug.
Speaker 2: So we have a mug here, and I'm gonna have
coffee on. Yes, And this is my official announcement. Nobody knew.
I waited to the day. This is a good place
to announce it. Announce it. Yes, I'm going to run
for reelection. And that's all we're gonna tell you. If
you want to know, come and see us, Come and
have these conversations. One if it's not a fourth, it's
a fourth now, and I welcome anybody with the conversations.
We're not gonna run, We're not gonna hide. We haven't.
And so somebody says, why because I am not done.
I'm not done yet, and because me and the citizens
of Metonbury County are not done. Uh, And so like
I said, the answer is yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't. What was the party on? I gotta play
this again? What was this part? Okay? Number one? Right,
I got a lot to unpack just out of this,
and I've got a whole bunch of cuts from a
lot of the stuff that he was saying on Brett's
show the other day. And Okay, first off, I don't
know because it didn't come up. But did he visit
his childhood home, because that's what he said a week
ago or two weeks ago. He said that he expects
to just sometime this autumn when he visits his childhood
home in South Carolina, praise and reflects. That's what he
told the Charlotte Observer on October twenty second. Well that's
when the story was, so maybe it was the twenty first.
He said, is it necessary for me to still do
this work? He said he is weighing the parts of
the job that he likes, namely being in the community,
against a steady stream of negative news coverage and politics.
He said, quote, I love what I do. I don't
love being the sheriff. So this is he loves what
he does. He just doesn't like what he does or something.
So I don't know if he visited the childhood home
where he made this decision. He said he didn't tell
anybody about his decision. I don't know what that means,
because he made a mug okay, you like, maybe it
was a Zazzle thing or like it's a platform or
a cafe press where you can do like a single
order of something. So maybe he just made one single
mug okay. But all of that's just kind of noise.
These are just the questions that go through my head
because it's like, oh, that's interesting. Why did you make
it down to the childhood home for the prayer and reflection?
You say you didn't tell anybody, like, but he did.
Later on he says he talked to his family about it,
and apparently some of his staff too, so he did
tell people after he just said that he didn't tell anybody.
But anyway, so those are just sort of like loose
ends for the story. Maybe he's just talking about I
haven't made the announcement yet, he hasn't sent out the
press release. And then he sends out the press release.
He hit send on the email on the air here
during Brett's show talking with Brett Jensen. But there's a
part in here at the beginning. Let me see if
I can just jump to it here card here what
that car says A man of his word. The answer
is yes. So we have a couple of coffee on this.
Oh there it is. Look at that. I didn't see
that the mug.
Speaker 2: So we have a mug here, and I'm gonna have
coffee on. Yes, And this is my official announcement. Nobody knew.
I waited to today. This is a good place to
announce it, and announce it. Yes, I'm going to run
for reelection. And that's all we're going to tell you.
If you want to know, come and see us, come
and have these conversations.
Speaker 1: That's all we're going to tell you. That's all I'm
going to tell you. Yes, I'm running for reelection. That's
all I'm going to tell you. And if you want
to know about I don't know, well, then come have
a conversation. He kept saying this throughout the hour long interview.
And I listened to it twice, Okay, first time to
record it all into my system, and then the second
time to pull the sound bites out of it. So
I've listened. Now that's the third time I've heard this.
And he keeps talking about having these conversations, one on
one conversations, all about the conversations and such and I'm
kind of reminded of my good friend Ray, the former
governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper. Well, no, I no,
I call him Ray because that's what his good friend
Hillary Clinton called him. Are you ready to elect Ray
Cooper your governor? Yeah? Yeah, his campaign rally back in
twenty twelve, twenty twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen. Yeah, because that's
when she was running for president. So she and Ray
are tight. But he was attorney general for four terms
sixteen years. And remember he had no emails. They did
a foyer request. Media did a foyer request to get
his emails, and he had no emails. He had like
ten and they were all like, you know, donuts in
the break room for staff Appreciation Day, thanks for all
your hard work. Like that was the only stuff he
ever sent out an email. And I'm supposed to believe that.
And the official statement from the AG's office Noel Tally
I believe is her name. Yeah, I think that was
his comms gal. And she's like, oh, well, he prefers
conversations one on one, and there's a reason to do that.
It's the same reason one might set up a private
server rather than just you know, using a government issued
email account, or even a I've at sector email account
under a fake name. There's a reason you set up
your own server, right, It's so you can hide stuff
and in one on one conversation there are no notes
that get taken, and so then you end up with
just my word against your word, if there's ever any
disagreement about it. This was also how the corrupt county
manager up in Bunkham County, Wanda Green. This is how
she was able to maintain her corruption for years, siphoning
hundreds of thousands of dollars I think, well, maybe it
may have been millions, I forget now. But it's how
she was able to siphon all the money out of
the county coffers was because she would keep the county
commissioners split apart, and she wouldn't she wouldn't meet with
them all together except during the one meeting every other week,
and then everything she had already met with everybody individually,
and so she had already coordinated all the conversations and
votes and all of that. So by the time you
went to the open session meeting, there wasn't really a
lot to hash out, and nobody knew what each other
was thinking on any given issue unless they actually went
and talked to every other county commissioner also, So there's
an insulation incentive behind these one on one conversations. But
I just I find it interesting. You're making an announcement
that you're running for reelection and that's all you're going
to say about it, and if anybody wants to know more,
they have to meet with you one on one. It's
a bold strategy, Cotton. We'll see how it works out.
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the text line I heard McFadden unannounced on Breaking with
Brett Jensen this morning. WCNC said that McFadden had announced
on social media. I don't know if that's a typo. No,
he it was. He announced it and then during Brett show,
he was like, I'm going to hit send on this
email and he sent out the the the press release.
Now I don't know where it's got sent to, so
it may have gone out on social media, but no,
that's where he I mean, you just heard it. That's
from Wednesday night, and then the story started running yesterday.
Here's another clip from Well hang on a second, let
me do this. Kevin says, the same exact thing happens
in the business world. If I'm doing business with somebody
and they declined to put what we discussed in writing,
and well, let's just shake on it. I immediately know
they are going to try to screw me over. I
tell them, if it's not in writing, we aren't going
to be able to work together. I mean, that's just
that's smart, I understand. Okay. So after McFadden made this announcement,
he of course talked about how he has been and
the victim, because if Gary McFadden is not playing the victim,
he's playing the hero, and saying, of course that any
of the controversies, any of the scandals, anything that is
negative about the Sheriff's office, it's just his critics, it's
just the media, it's just disloyal staff members, disloyal black people.
That's what he has said. I brought my whole folder.
I have an entire folder of mcfaddenism's okay, I have
a whole digital file of all of the sound bites
that he has provided over his last seven years. Here.
He's going to run for a third term, so of
course he talks about how he's been victimized by his staff,
that I'm not done.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let anybody tell me what to do,
how to do it, when to do it, or when
to leave. And that's what I mean, So don't.
Speaker 1: Twist that.
Speaker 2: It was never that I was not completely not saying
I'm not gonna do it. I had to look at
my family. I had to look at my wife, had
to look at my kids. I had to look at
people who surround me. And of course we know loyalty
is my big issue. Oh, people are not loyal. I
should ask people before I hired them, are you loyal?
Speaker 1: That's probably not a great interview question because if they're
not loyal, chances are their liars and they're just gonna
lie to you if you ask them if they're loyal.
But I'm old enough to remember when people made this
a disqualification for a leader, Right, hello, Orange Hitler, Right,
that was the knock on Donald Trump for years, like, oh,
he values loyalty above everything else. And here you have
a sheriff, sitting sheriff saying that this is like the
primary thing for him is loyalty, is what he's saying.
And he has said this for the last several years,
as these top command staffers keep quitting and saying he's
running the place like a dictatorship. He has created a
toxic work environment. He's a raging narcissist. And so his
response is I need greater loyalty from these people. The
beatings will continue until morale improves.
Speaker 2: Loyalty is going to be a part of this campaign, Trustworthiness,
all of that. And so you have to say, do
you want to go through that again knowing who you are?
But take the criticism of people who've never even seen me,
just probably heard me or read something on the TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I generally watch stuff on the TV. I don't
read stuff on the TV. But point take and look,
I'm one of those people. Maybe he's talking about me.
I don't care, like that's me. Yes, I don't know him.
I've never met him personally, but he's still my sheriff.
He's the sheriff of this county. He does public appearances.
That's part of the gig. That's part of the thing
that you said you liked when you said you did
like being sheriff. You don't love being sheriff, but being
in the community is what he likes. Part of the
gig is being available to the media right doing interviews
and such, and that means things you say and do
are going to be broadcast out and people who are
not going to go sit down with you. They are
going to get their information about you from these appearances.
And when you say things like you say, they start,
you know, making an opinion about you when you read. Look,
I've read a lot of stuff about Gary mcfatten. I've
read a lot of stuff from the people who worked
with Gary mcfatten. I've gotten messages from people who work
with Gary McFadden. I don't know what I mean. I
don't understand. I do understand. It's this is he has
to run. Of course he's gonna run, and he says
he's gonna make loyalty a focus of the campaign. Please do,
Oh my gosh, please do. I hope you talk about
the loyalty that you demand from all of your command
staff and all of your detention officers, all your correction officers,
all your deputies. I hope you make that the primary
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peak tweet from it's all a distraction who says many
people are sleeping better at night knowing not my fault.
McFadden is running for reelection. Those people would be the criminals.
I don't know about the residents. And by residents, I
mean inmates, because he doesn't call them inmates. He calls
them residents as a sign of respect. And yeah, because
I don't know if you heard this, but somebody else
died at the jail, and this news broke just as
the sheriff was going on the program with Brett Jensen,
and so Brett asked him about this latest death at
the jail.
Speaker 2: And you know, I saw where the news clips say
waiting for the autopsy. Well, if you look at any autopsy,
or look at the findings of the disc attorney's office
or the SBI, it will give you better information than
sensationalize it as only a death, you know, look at
the cause and manner, and then you will get more
information than just saying there's a death at Meccnburg County
Detention Center.
Speaker 1: So what would you prefer us call it? As a
member of the media when discussing a uh A deceased
person incident? What what what would you have me called?
Or I'm supposed to wait for an autopsy before reporting
that there was a death, sorry, a deceasement at the jail.
So what do you what are you even saying? What
are you talking about? There was a death at the
jail that is factual, in fact, that's in keeping with
your campaign slogan here where you say factual or fact
or something, it's in this It's a three word slogan.
It's like I'm looking forward here in the I think
he'll say it at some point here. But so it's
the media's fault. It's the media's fault, and we should
wait until the full investigation comes out before we report
that somebody died at the jail. And if we are
going to report that someone died at the jail, we
darn sure better not say a death at the jail,
because that's the problem. That's the problem, not that somebody died,
it's that we call it a death at the jail.
This is the same sort of deflective pose he strikes
whenever anybody calls him out on any of his controversies,
any of his bad behavior. Right, it's always like, well,
you got to look at all the good things that
I've done in my life. You got to look at
all this other stuff. No, no, we're just we're just
looking at this one actually, because this one, like this
is another death of the jail. Oh and by the way,
the death at the jail, according to the Charlotte Observer,
a man in the County jail died after being given
the wrong medication. Who did that, don't know, but I'm
sure the Observer is wrong to report it like that. Yeah,
he's very critical of the of the media coverage of
any death at the jail. Obviously, Well, we had to
death recently.
Speaker 2: We cannot get into any details about it because it
is a parallel investigation with the SBI and other entities,
and so we really can't talk about it. But you know,
it is sad that someone did die at the detention center.
But you know, when people get upset about people dying
at the detention center, what we can always say that
we're doing the best that we can. We're doing a
great job. But most of the deaths there are because
of poor health and poverty and all the other things.
Speaker 1: And so was that poverty that led to somebody getting
the wrong medication? Was that was that their health. It
was their fault because they were unhealthy and needed medication
and then got the wrong medication and then they died.
That is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Why is it always a big issue because it is
the jail or detention center and I am the sheriff,
which is a part of the lightning rod.
Speaker 1: But you know people, no, no, no, no, it's not
because you're the sheriff and you're the lightning rod. No,
it's because there have been so many deaths at the
jail under your tenure number one, number two that the
state had to come in and you know, smack your
hand a bunch of times because of the way you've
been running the jail. Also, you've had a large number
of deputies leave your employment because of you. Okay, it's
not that you're the lightning rod and that's why people
get upset about this. It's because these people are in
your care. That's why people get upset. They are legally
forced to be under your supervision, and when they die,
people ask how did that happen? Because you're supposed to
be supervising them, and asking how it happened isn't automatically
an accusation, but in his mind, I guess it is
simply asking how did this person die? Could something better
have been done to prevent it? Right, that's what media
is doing when they raise the question, when they raise
when they report on the deaths in the jail. But
to him, it's because of him, because that's what narcissists do.
That's I guess that I should not be surprised.
Speaker 2: We die in res Holmes's clinical places and hospitals everyd and.
Speaker 1: So wait, you don't see any difference between a jail
and a rest home, an old age home, a retirement community,
a hospital. You see no difference. There is a difference.
People walk into your facility completely healthy, not all of them,
but some of them. They're not going in there for
treatment of some life threatening issue like a hospital. They're
not going in there because they are in the twilight
of their life and they are going to be dead soon.
So the natural expectation would be for them to die
there at a rest home, right, because that's why you
go to those places. I he really needs somebody to
coach him up on some of these analogies that he uses,
because this one's just dumb, and I've heard him use
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Not my fault McFadden is pathologically narcissistic. I have never
seen anyone who comes close. Hopefully there's been enough bad
press in the last couple of years that people will
take a serious look at the others running against him.
Kevin says, hopefully you won't take offence again, Pete, but
about this point, I didn't take offense again. What okay?
But in defense of Gary not my fault McFadden, a
large percentage of those that go into his jail are
on death's door because of heavy drug use and alcoholism.
Sure right, I understand that. I have also pointed out
that a lot of people die after they get out
of the jail because they've been clean inside the jail.
They get out and then they go and they get
drugs and they overdose because their body isn't used to
it anymore, their tolerance is dropped. But that's in no
way responsive Kevin to his argument, which was a lot
of people come in to the jail, and you know,
they come in and they die just like at a hospital. No,
it's not just like a hospital. If people go in
with obvious you know, addiction issues and all of that, sure,
But when people die because they got the wrong medication,
that's a different thing. You know. That's a different thing.
When someone commits suicide in the jail and nobody goes
around to supervise, to check on them, and that's how
they were able to do it, that's a problem and
that needs to be identified. And because you're supposed to
be supervising them, that's why people get upset about it,
which McFadden doesn't. He wants to just kind of any
kind of problem. He's minimizing it, and not even artfully.
He's not good at it, you know, so it comes
across as ham handed, and it's obvious, I think to
everybody's that listens to what he says. Let me go
over here and get Alex. Hello, Alex, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: How are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good? What's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I just want to say mcfed reminds me of
Barney Fife with a tan.
Speaker 1: Barney Fife with Okay, with a tan. Yeah, well it's
not a tan, he's just black. Alex. Okay, I appreciate
the call. It's not worth a rim shot. You don't
get a rim shot for that. Alex Valiant effort. Jean,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Jean, huh, yes, thank you so much for what you've
been saying. I have been so upset when I heard
that he was running again. Excuse me, because the best
news I heard was you know that he wasn't out
for good and everything, because honestly, I followed him now
for years since he's been shared, and he has been
the most underminded, crooked person that And like I said,
I'm sorry I have followed him, and I'd love to
know the two gentlemen that left Dill that you know,
just up and left. I can't even think of her
names right now, and I've wanted to do that and
call them and say, please tell me your reasons, because
they didn't leave, give any reasons.
Speaker 1: Oh yes they did. Oh no, no, no, no, no no.
I had one of them on the show. Former Chief
Deputy Kevin Canty.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't hear any here, had him.
Speaker 1: On and then his successor for less than a year
he quit, wrote an open letter. Canty wrote an open letter,
did a bunch of interviews. You've got his former chief
of detention to Lisa White, she said he's not a
good leader. In an interview with the Observer last month.
So I mean, there have been a ton of people
that have quit and have gone public with their reasonings.
So I mean, it's just it's a matter of whether
or not people in the Democrat primary are going to
pick somebody other than McFadden. And he's got challengers. He's
got three challengers, and Gene I appreciate the call. He's
got former chief Deputy Rodney Collins, former detention officer Antoine Nance,
and Charlotte Mecklenburg Police sergeant Ricky Robbins. And Ricky Robbins,
I think, is the one that had a bunch of
endorsements from like Carolina Panther players. So like he's got
some stiff competition in the Democrat primary. I think, you know,
the concern is that you end up with too many
candidates and then they split all of the anti McFadden vote.
That's going to be the that's going to be the problem.
And I don't know if you know, well, I think
there may already be a Republican who has announced, but
a Republican running county wide is going to be very difficult,
you know, to be a Democrat, just because people are
going to vote for the party affiliation. So this is
where we are. Will it matter to Democrat voters? We
shall see. All right. That'll do it for this episode.
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