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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Western CIV. Episode five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five. Muddling through. So we last left the United

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<v Speaker 1>States the summer of nineteen thirty three, while we jumped

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<v Speaker 1>forward with Europe and Asia. This point's the hottest days

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Settling over DC, and for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in months, as you'll recall, the men running the United

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<v Speaker 1>States government can actually pause and catch their breath because

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<v Speaker 1>behind them was one of the most astonishing stretches in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of American politics, one hundred days, in which

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<v Speaker 1>a new president and a willing Congress rewrote the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between citizens and their governments. Banks reopened, farmers got relief,

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<v Speaker 1>A million young men were put to work clearing forests

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<v Speaker 1>and trails. The country, which in March had felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was sliding off a cliff, now felt, at least

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<v Speaker 1>for some people, like it had grabbed the edge. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing people forgets. The one hundred days was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the easy part. What came next the next six

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<v Speaker 1>years be harder, messier, and in many ways far more consequential.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the story of how the New Deal grew, hit

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<v Speaker 1>a wall, and then reshaped American life anyway, and today

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<v Speaker 1>it's a story about the president who won the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>landslide in modern history and then managed to somehow almost

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<v Speaker 1>wreck his own presidency a few months later. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>because of what we've talked about in the last two episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't ignore the interconnectedness of the world. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the episodes that I was doing about the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth century or the seventeenth century, or hack even the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century. To some extent, the world was woven together.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the affair is in Asia and Europe that

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<v Speaker 1>are happening in the late nineteen thirties, those are impacting

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<v Speaker 1>the United States too, in ways that are incredibly profound.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I'm going to tell the story in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States from the one hundred Days to that day

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<v Speaker 1>in September when the tanks rolled into Poland. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>set the table. The famous First hundred Days ran from

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt's inauguration in March nineteen thirty three through the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of June. By the time Congress goes home that summer,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen major pieces of legislation are on the books. The

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<v Speaker 1>banking crisis has been stopped. Basically, there's an alphabet soup

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<v Speaker 1>of new agencies, the CCC, the AAA, the TVA, and

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<v Speaker 1>the NRA, not that one a different one, each one

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of enormous, improvised legislative experiment trying to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the nation out of the Great Depression. But Roosevelt's presidency

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't pause when the legislation does. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most interesting things about this period is that while everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>attention is on the domestic emergency, Roosevelt is already making

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<v Speaker 1>moves on the world stage, moves to tell you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about him. The first big one comes that very summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a foreign policy decision that infuriated a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. In June and July of nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 1>the leading economic powers gathered in London for what was

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<v Speaker 1>called the World Monetary and Economic Conference. The idea was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty grandiose. Get the major nations to stabilize their currencies, coordinate,

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<v Speaker 1>and then lift the whole world out of the depression together.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting is that Roosevelt blew it up. He

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<v Speaker 1>said what became known as his Bombshell Message, essentially telling

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<v Speaker 1>the delegates that the United States would not tie its

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<v Speaker 1>hands to some international currency agreement. America's recovery he said,

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<v Speaker 1>came first. He was not going to sacrifice his freedom

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<v Speaker 1>to inflate the dollar and raise prices at home just

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<v Speaker 1>to please the banker in Europe. And so the conference collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>Internationalists and globalists were horrified, But it told you Roosevelt's

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<v Speaker 1>priority in nineteen thirty three and one move. The American

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<v Speaker 1>President was focusing on the table in front of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and that mattered a heck of a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>any abstract global copper operation concept. It was America first,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words. Now, at the very same time, he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing something that looked very opposite because he was

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<v Speaker 1>reaching outward. In November of nineteen thirty three, Roosevelt did

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<v Speaker 1>something no president had done since the Russian Revolution. He

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<v Speaker 1>formally recognized the Soviet Union. For sixteen years, the United

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<v Speaker 1>States had just simply pretended the Bolshevik government didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's that on the map, that enormous space, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of above China and right next to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of Europe. Well, that's nothing, We'll just ignore that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that policy came to an end in nineteen thirty three. Roosevelt,

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<v Speaker 1>the pragmatic man he was, looked at the situation and

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<v Speaker 1>He saw two things, a potential trading partner during a

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<v Speaker 1>depression and a possible counterweight to Japan, which was expanding

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively in Asia. So he opened up relations. The hope

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<v Speaker 1>for it of trade never really materialized, and the diplomatic

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<v Speaker 1>relationship would be rocky for years, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>signal this was a president who intended to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the world as it was, not as he wished it

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And then there's the policy that may be

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<v Speaker 1>his most durable foreign achievement of the whole decade, what

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<v Speaker 1>was called the good neighbor policy. For a generation, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States had thrown its weight around in Latin America

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<v Speaker 1>like an arguing landlord, Marines landing in this country, customs

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<v Speaker 1>houses seized over here, the long shadow of gunboat diplomacy. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt announced, starting in his inaugural address and then indeeds,

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<v Speaker 1>that the this was over, the United States would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good neighbor, one that respected the sovereignty of other states.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Montevideo Conference in late nineteen thirty three, the

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<v Speaker 1>US signed on to the principle that no state had

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<v Speaker 1>the right to intervene in the international affairs of another.

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<v Speaker 1>The following year, the hated Platt Amendment, which had given

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<v Speaker 1>the US a legal right to medal in Cuba, was

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<v Speaker 1>officially ended, and the Marines that were stationed in Haiti,

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<v Speaker 1>we brought those home. Two. Why does this matter? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to hold that thought, because in just

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<v Speaker 1>a few years, when the world catches fire, Roosevelt is

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<v Speaker 1>going to want the entire Western hemisphere standing behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the goodwill he's banking now is going to pay off.

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<v Speaker 1>So if nineteen thirty three was the year of rescue,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty four was the year of construction and the

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<v Speaker 1>year the opposition starts to find its voice on the

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<v Speaker 1>domestic side. The big achievement is the one we still

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<v Speaker 1>live with every single day. In June of four, Congress

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<v Speaker 1>passed the Securities Exchange Act, which created the Securities and

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<v Speaker 1>Exchange Commission as we call it today, the SEC. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market crash in nineteen twenty nine was the

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<v Speaker 1>symbolic beginning of the whole catastrophe, and the markets in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenties had been in a wild west of insider

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<v Speaker 1>deals and manipulations. The SEC was built to bring the

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<v Speaker 1>cops to Wall Street. Now there'd be disclosure requirements, registration

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<v Speaker 1>rules against fraud. And here's a detail people love. Roosevelt's

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<v Speaker 1>choice to run the new SEC was Joseph P. Kennedy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that Kennedy, the father of a future president, the man

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<v Speaker 1>who had made himself a fortune doing exactly the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stock manipulation the SEC was designed to stop. When

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<v Speaker 1>advisers objected, Roosevelt supposedly said that to catch a thief,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a thief. Kennedy turned out to be an effective,

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<v Speaker 1>no nonsense chairman. Sometimes I guess being cynical is the

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<v Speaker 1>right decision. Also in nineteen thirty four, Roosevelt Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State Cordell Hall, a man with an almost religious faith

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<v Speaker 1>in free trade, got his signature achievement, the Reciprocal Trade

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<v Speaker 1>Agreements Act. This let the president negotiate teriff reductions with

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<v Speaker 1>other countries on his own authority. In the long run,

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<v Speaker 1>this would quietly reverse decades of American protectionism and laying

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<v Speaker 1>the groundwork for the trading world that would be built

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<v Speaker 1>after the next war. It was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a sleeper, but it was a hit. But nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four is also when the political weather starts to shift,

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<v Speaker 1>because Roosevelt is now getting attacked from both directions at once.

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<v Speaker 1>From the right came the American Liberty League, founded in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty four by conservative Democrats and business titans, including

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<v Speaker 1>members of the DuPont family in Al Smith, the man

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt has succeeded as the great hope of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>They saw the New Deal as a march towards social

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<v Speaker 1>a betrayal of the Constitution, an assault on free enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>They had money, and they had voluminous microphones. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way. But honestly, the attacks from the

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<v Speaker 1>right were the ones that Roosevelt could push off in

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<v Speaker 1>his sleep. It was the attacks from the left are

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<v Speaker 1>more precisely from a strange, populous flank, that genuinely scared him.

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<v Speaker 1>Because those men weren't promising less than the New Deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They were promising more, and they were brilliant at reaching ordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>frightened people. Let me tell you about three of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about these a little bit last time, But

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<v Speaker 1>the first and the most important one was Huey Long,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kingfish, a senator and former governor of Louisiana who

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<v Speaker 1>ran the state very much like a personal kingdom. Corrupt, ruthless,

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<v Speaker 1>and massively popular. Long had a slogan that landed like

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<v Speaker 1>a thunderclap in the middle of the depression. Share our wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>cat big fortunes, he said, and guarantee every fing family

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<v Speaker 1>a homestead and a decent annual income. He also said,

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<v Speaker 1>every man a king. It was economically impossible and politically electric.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen thirty five, his organization claimed millions of members,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were whispers, serious whispers, and he might run

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<v Speaker 1>for president and split the vote. Second was another gud

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<v Speaker 1>that I talked about, Father Charles Kaughlin, the radio priest

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<v Speaker 1>of Detroit. At his peak, tens of millions of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>tuned into his Sunday broadcasts. He started out a passionate

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt supporter. Roosevelt are ruined, he said, but he soured

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<v Speaker 1>attacking bankers and the gold standard, and over time his

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric curdled into something darker and openly antisemitic. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid thirties his reach was staggering. Radio was the

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<v Speaker 1>one I want to talk about is doctor Francis Townsend,

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<v Speaker 1>a mild mannered California physician with one big idea pay

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<v Speaker 1>every American over sixty a generous monthly pension on the

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<v Speaker 1>Townsend clubs sprang up across the country, especially among older

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who would watch their savings vanish. Now, why does

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<v Speaker 1>any of this matter to this story? Because Roosevelt was

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<v Speaker 1>a master politician, and a master politician doesn't just crush

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<v Speaker 1>his rivals. He steals from him. He steals their best ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>The pressure from long, Claughlin and Townsend, combined with a

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court that was about to start swinging a wrecking

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<v Speaker 1>to the left in nineteen thirty five. The critics, they

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were cornering him, but they were actually writing

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<v Speaker 1>his next chapter. Now, one more thing about nineteen thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of an anomaly, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>midterm elections. Almost always, the party in power loses seats

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<v Speaker 1>in a midterm, that's almost an iron rule of American politics. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt's Democrats gained seats, building even bigger majorities in both houses.

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<v Speaker 1>The voters were saying, keep going and Roosevelt he intended to.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen thirty five is the year that's really the hinge

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<v Speaker 1>of our whole story. It's the year the New Deal

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gets a second wind. Historians actually refer to

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<v Speaker 1>it as the Second New Deal, or sometimes the Second

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<v Speaker 1>hundred Days, but it begins with a bit of a blow.

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<v Speaker 1>On May the twenty seventh, nineteen thirty five, the day

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<v Speaker 1>the administration called Black Monday, the Supreme Court of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States struck down the National Industrial Recovery Act. The

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<v Speaker 1>The court ruled unanimously that the the NRA had handed

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<v Speaker 1>New Deal, the Great experimented industrial planning with its blue

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<v Speaker 1>eagle posters in every shop window, was officially dead. Roosevelt

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the Big four. Number one, the WPA,

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<v Speaker 1>But Hopkins did something visionary too. He hired artists, writers, actors, painters, musicians,

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<v Speaker 1>a genuinely radical statement about what a society owes its people.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, and this is the biggie. The Social Security Act,

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<v Speaker 1>just sit with how revolutionary this was before social security.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing old in America with no money meant very often destitution,

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<v Speaker 1>From the beginning. He took the popular demand security for

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what he was right. Ninety years later, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still here, arguably the most important piece of domestic

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<v Speaker 1>here recording this, it's about four years away from running

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<v Speaker 1>out of money. Hopefully someone in Congress can share Roosevelt's

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<v Speaker 1>vision and get on board. The Number three was the

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<v Speaker 1>National Labor Relations Act, better known as the Wagner Act

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty five. This was a charter of rights

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<v Speaker 1>Relations Board to enforce those rights and referee disputes. With

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<v Speaker 1>The Wagner Act gave it something far stronger. An American

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<v Speaker 1>union membership, as a consequence, was about to explode. The

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<v Speaker 1>It sharply raised taxes on the highest incomes, on big

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<v Speaker 1>est states and on corporations. Now in dollar terms, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually raise that much money. His real purpose was as

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<v Speaker 1>men of great wealth, and frankly stealing a march on

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<v Speaker 1>Huey Long's share our wealth policy before Long could run

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And of course there was more. A Banking

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<v Speaker 1>Act that centralized real power in the Federal Reserve under

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<v Speaker 1>the able Mariner Eccles, giving Washington genuine control over the

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<v Speaker 1>nation's money. Supply for the first time, a rural electrification

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<v Speaker 1>farms that still in nineteen thirty five had none. Think

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century, with kerosene lambs and no refrigeration. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the New Deal that changed, that put it all together,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can start to see the shift. The first

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<v Speaker 1>stabilizing prices. The second New Deal was about reform and security,

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<v Speaker 1>building permanent structures to protect ordinary people from I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>the raw edges of capitalism. This is the moment modern

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<v Speaker 1>American welfare state is born. And it's the moment the

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<v Speaker 1>New Deal coalition, working people, union members, immigrants, black voters

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<v Speaker 1>white Southerners, intellectuals, locks into places the dominant force in

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<v Speaker 1>American politics for the next thirty five years. Now. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>while Roosevelt is rebuilding America at home, the international sky

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that's going to tie Roosevelt's hands for years.

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<v Speaker 1>The mood of the American people in the mid nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirties can be summed up in one word, never again

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<v Speaker 1>and never again. The trenches, the gas, the slaughter of

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<v Speaker 1>the Great War, and a powerful idea took hold, pushed

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<v Speaker 1>hard by Senate committee led by Gerald and I of

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota, that the United States had been dragged into

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<v Speaker 1>that war, dragged by greedy bankers and arms manufacturers, the

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<v Speaker 1>so called merchants of death, who only cared about profit.

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<v Speaker 1>The NI Committees here in running through nineteen thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen thirty six, hammered this theme, and they convinced

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<v Speaker 1>millions of Americans that the way to stay out of

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<v Speaker 1>the next war was simply to pass a law against

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and embargo would automatically slam down on shipping American

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<v Speaker 1>arms to anyone involved, aggressor and victim alike. More acts

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<v Speaker 1>followed in nineteen thirty six and nineteen thirty seven, tightening

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem, and Roosevelt saw it immediately by treating

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<v Speaker 1>didn't keep American neutral in any moral sense. They just

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<v Speaker 1>deserved it. Roosevelt disliked the neutrality acts intensely, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid thirties, isolation as sentiment was just so overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>and events that proved his point came almost immediately. In

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<v Speaker 1>October of nineteen thirty five, Mussolini's Italy invaded Ethiopia, one

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<v Speaker 1>more than rifles. The League of Nations, as I talked

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<v Speaker 1>The lesson that dictators took was unmistakable, aggression pays, and

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<v Speaker 1>conflict in which Hitler and Mussolini openly backed the Fascist

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<v Speaker 1>the Western democracies stood aside, and as to their credit,

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets did chip in to try to help out

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<v Speaker 1>the Congregationalists. Roosevelt, hemmed in by the neutrality laws and

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<v Speaker 1>The world is sorting itself into democracies and dictatorships, and

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<v Speaker 1>the dictatorships are winning all the early rounds. But at home,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six belonged to Franklin Roosevelt. The year opened

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<v Speaker 1>the case of United States versus Butler, the Court struck

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<v Speaker 1>But the pattern was now glaring. An aging Conservative Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>File that away because he's going to detonate nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven for now. Though it was election season and Roosevelt

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<v Speaker 1>was about to win one for the ages, the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>nominated Alf Landon, the moderate governor of Kansas, a decent

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<v Speaker 1>The campaign was a referendum on the New Deal, and

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt leaned all the way in. He didn't run from

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<v Speaker 1>Garden on the eve of his election, he listed the

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<v Speaker 1>six was one of the greatest landslides in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt carried forty six of the forty eight states. Landon

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<v Speaker 1>The old saying had been as Main goes, so goes

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<v Speaker 1>footnote here. A popular magazine called Literary Digest ran a

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<v Speaker 1>were catastrophically wrong. Their sample was skewed toward wealthy Americans

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<v Speaker 1>so humiliated it soon folded. But there's the story is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting for this because there was a young polster who

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<v Speaker 1>was George Gallup. Oh and one of Roosevelt's most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, remember Huey Long. He was shot in

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<v Speaker 1>much trouble the Kingfish might have caused in nineteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin Roosevelt became in nineteen thirty seven the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>several of them quite elderly, who had been striking down

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<v Speaker 1>the Wagner Act, social Security itself, the whole edifice of

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<v Speaker 1>forty six states. Why should an unelected, ancient court overrule

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<v Speaker 1>He framed it disingenuously as a matter of efficiency. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. The separation of powers, the checks and balances,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress for decades. And then something strange happened that abruptly

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the rug from under the whole plan. That spring

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court. That same Supreme Court started to rule

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<v Speaker 1>for the new deal. In March, in a minimum wage

418
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<v Speaker 1>case West Coast Hotel versus Parish, Justice Owen Roberts switched

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<v Speaker 1>his vote to the liberal side. In April, the Court

420
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<v Speaker 1>actually upheld the Wagner Act. It became known as the

421
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<v Speaker 1>switch in time that saved nine. Then one of the

422
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<v Speaker 1>conservative justices, Van Devanter, announced his retirement, giving Roosevelt a

423
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<v Speaker 1>vacancy to fill, you know, the honest way. Suddenly Roosevelt

424
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<v Speaker 1>was getting the Court he wanted without the plan, which

425
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<v Speaker 1>meant the plan now had no purpose except to look

426
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<v Speaker 1>like a power grab. The Court packing Bill died in

427
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<v Speaker 1>the Senate that summer. It was a humiliating defeat, the

428
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<v Speaker 1>first real one of his presidency, and it was entirely

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<v Speaker 1>self inflict. Roosevelt eventually got to a point a string

430
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<v Speaker 1>of justices and reshaped the Court for a generation. So

431
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in the long run he arguably won, but the political

432
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>cost was enormous. The aura of invincibility was gone. The

433
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<v Speaker 1>Conservative coalition now was a permanent fact of life, and

434
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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt's command over Congress would never again be what it

435
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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen thirty three or nineteen thirty five. Nineteen

436
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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven had more pain in store on the labor front.

437
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<v Speaker 1>The Wagner hacked had unleashed a wave of union organizing,

438
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<v Speaker 1>and it sometimes turned violent. The great drama was the

439
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 1>sit down strike, workers occupying the factory itself, refusing to

440
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>leave so the company couldn't bring in replacements. The most

441
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<v Speaker 1>famous was at General Motors in Flint, Michigan, over the

442
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<v Speaker 1>winter of nineteen thirty six into nineteen thirty seven. After

443
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<v Speaker 1>a tenths weeks long standoff, GM caved in and recognized

444
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<v Speaker 1>the United Auto Workers, a stunning victory that supercharged the

445
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>new industrial union movement, the CIO. But not every fight

446
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<v Speaker 1>ended so well. A Memorial Day nineteen thirty seven, police

447
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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago opened fire on a crowd of striking steel

448
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<v Speaker 1>workers in their families, killing ten people in what became

449
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<v Speaker 1>known as the Memorial Day Massacre. The country was raw,

450
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and the question of labour's power was being settled in

451
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<v Speaker 1>the streets. And then the economy, which looked like it

452
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<v Speaker 1>had been clawing its way back for four years, suddenly

453
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 1>collapsed again. Historians call it the Roosevelt Recession. Starting in

454
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<v Speaker 1>the late summer and fall of nineteen thirty seven, industrial

455
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>production fell off a cliff, and unemployment, which had been dropping,

456
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<v Speaker 1>shot back up by millions. The cause is still debated,

457
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<v Speaker 1>but a big factor was Roosevelt himself. Worried about deficits

458
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and inflation. He had cut back on relief spending, slashing

459
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<v Speaker 1>the WPA, and the new Social Security payroll taxes were

460
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<v Speaker 1>suddenly now pulling money out of workers' paychecks. The economy,

461
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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, wasn't yet strong enough to stand on

462
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<v Speaker 1>its own. When the government stepped back, it stumbled. This

463
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>was a genuine intellectual crisis for the administration. One camp said,

464
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<v Speaker 1>we cut too soon. We need to spend our way

465
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<v Speaker 1>back out, as the British economist John Maynard Keynes had

466
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>been arguing. Another said said, no, we need to balance

467
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<v Speaker 1>the budget and reassure business. Roosevelt wavered, and then in

468
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.759
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty eight came down on the side of spending,

469
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<v Speaker 1>asking Congress for a big new round of relief in

470
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<v Speaker 1>public works, which helped slowly pull the economy back up.

471
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<v Speaker 1>It was, in a sense, the first deliberate use of

472
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<v Speaker 1>deficit spending to fight a downturn in American history, but

473
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<v Speaker 1>the damage to Roosevelt's reputation as a miracle worker was real.

474
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<v Speaker 1>And all the while, while this is all going on domestically,

475
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world kept darkening and in nineteen

476
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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, and Roosevelt started very carefully to try to

477
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<v Speaker 1>wake his country up to the growing threat. In October

478
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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty seven, in Chicago, the heartland of isolationism,

479
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<v Speaker 1>he gave what became known as the Quarantine Speech. Without

480
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>naming names. He warned that an epidemic of world lawlessness

481
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<v Speaker 1>was spreading, and he suggested that peace loving nations might

482
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<v Speaker 1>need to quarantine the aggressors the way you'd isolate a

483
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>patient with a contagious disease to stop the infection from spreading.

484
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 1>It was a trial, a test. Roosevelt was trying to

485
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<v Speaker 1>see whether Americans were ready to think about collective action

486
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 1>against aggression, and the answer came back loud and clear no.

487
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>The isolationist reaction was so hostile that Roosevelt backed off

488
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately. He later said something to the effect that

489
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a terrible thing to look over your shoulder when

490
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to lead and find no one there. He

491
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>had gotten too far ahead of his people. He filed

492
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that lesson away and resolved to bring them along more slowly.

493
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<v Speaker 1>The lesson got sharper. Just two months later, in December

494
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty seven, Japanese aircraft attacked and sank an

495
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>American gunboat, the USS Panae, on the Yanksee River in China,

496
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 1>in broad daylight, with American flags clearly visible. Several old

497
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>men were killed. In a later decade this might have

498
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 1>met war, but in nineteen thirty seven, the public reaction

499
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>was almost a desperate desire to avoid a confrontation. Japan

500
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>apologized and paid an indemnity, and the incident was smoothed over.

501
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 1>It was a vivid measure of just how deep the

502
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Speaker 1>will to just stay out of it all ran. In

503
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 1>American politics, nineteen thirty eight is on the domestic front,

504
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a kind of year of a stalemate. The Conservative coalition

505
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is dug in. The recession has kind of bruised Roosevelt's popularity.

506
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>The reforming energy of nineteen thirty five is mostly spent,

507
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>but the year does produce one last huge piece of

508
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>New Deal legislation. In June of nineteen thirty eight, Congress

509
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>passed the Fair Labor Standards Act. If you've ever earned

510
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<v Speaker 1>a minimum wage, or gotten time and a half for

511
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>working over time, or simply lived in a country where

512
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<v Speaker 1>it's illegal to send children into factories, that's this law.

513
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>It established a federal minimum wage, a maximum work week,

514
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<v Speaker 1>in a ban on most child labor. It was the

515
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>last major reform of the New Deal, and like Social Security,

516
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 1>it became a permanent part of American life. But Roosevelt

517
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 1>was frustrated, and that frustration led to another political misstep.

518
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<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen thirty eight primaries, he tried to purge

519
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party of the conservative members locked him, campaigning

520
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 1>openly against sitting Democratic senators and congressmen in their own primaries,

521
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to get them replaced with loyal New Dealers. It

522
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>mostly failed. Voters didn't like the President reaching into their

523
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>states to tell them who to elect, and most of

524
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 1>his targets survived. It reinforced the lesson of the court

525
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 1>packing scheme. Even at the height of his popularity, there

526
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>were limits to what Roosevelt could do. He couldn't just

527
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>bend the entire nation to his will. Then, in November

528
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty eight came the midterms. The Republicans, who had

529
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<v Speaker 1>been nearly wiped out two years earlier, came roaring back,

530
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>picking up dozens of seats in the House and several

531
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. Combined with the Conservative Democrats, this meant

532
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that the era of sweeping New Deal reform was for

533
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 1>all practical purposes over. Roosevelt would spend his remaining domestic

534
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 1>energy defending what he built, rather than expanding it. There's

535
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>one more in nineteen thirty eight development worth paying attention to,

536
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>because its shadow is long. That year, Congress created what

537
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<v Speaker 1>we become the House on American Activities Committee under Martin

538
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Dyes of Texas. It was ostensibly set up to investigate

539
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Nazi and communists aversion, but it quickly developed a taste

540
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 1>for going after New Dealers and labor unions as supposed radicals.

541
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<v Speaker 1>It's a thread that runs forward through the next two

542
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<v Speaker 1>decades and into an era that this podcast, at least

543
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>for now, isn't going to cover the Macarthy era of

544
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties. But by nineteen thirty eight, and awe honesty,

545
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the domestic story has simply been overtaken. Because in Europe,

546
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the storm Roosevelt had been warning about was now plainly

547
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and undeniably arriving in March of nineteen thirty eight. Hitler

548
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>next Austria, marching German troops across the border to absorb

549
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 1>a whole country into the Reich, and as we know,

550
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the war did nothing. Then he turned to Czechoslovakia, demanding

551
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the Sedate in Land, the border region with a large

552
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>German speaking population, and here, as we know, we come

553
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<v Speaker 1>to the most well, I guess, one of the most

554
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<v Speaker 1>infamous moments of the twentieth century, because in late September

555
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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty eight, the leaders of Britain and France.

556
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why Neville Chamberlain, by the way, gets

557
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>all the crap for this, because France did go and

558
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>they met Hiller at Munich, and desperate to avoid war,

559
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just gave him the Sudate Land and the promise that

560
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>this was his last territorial demand. As we know, the

561
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<v Speaker 1>British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain flew home waving a piece

562
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<v Speaker 1>of paper and declaring that he had quote unquote secured

563
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<v Speaker 1>peace for our time end quote. It was the high

564
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<v Speaker 1>water mark for a policy that we called appeasement. The

565
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>word that has now become a synonym for shameful weakness.

566
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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt's role in Munich was limited. America was on the sidelines,

567
00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>bound by neutrality and public opinion, and he sent message

568
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>is urging a peaceful settlement. But he watched what unfolded

569
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>with growing dread. He understood that the democracies had just

570
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>bought a few months of peace by feeding a country

571
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to a dictator, and that it would not be enough.

572
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Within six months, Hitler would tear up the Munich Agreement

573
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 1>entirely and swallow the rest of Czechoslovakia, proving the whole

574
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>thing of fraud. And then in November nineteen thirty eight

575
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 1>came Krystolknock the Night at Broken Glass, a coordinated wave

576
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of Nazi violence against Germany's Jews, Synagogues burned, businesses smashed,

577
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands sent to concentration camp. Roosevelt responded by

578
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<v Speaker 1>recalling the American ambassador from Berlin, then publicly condemning it

579
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<v Speaker 1>in sharp terms. He said he could scarcely believe such

580
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<v Speaker 1>things could occur in a twentieth century civilization. But and

581
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the genuine moral failures hanging over

582
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 1>this administration. America's restrictive immigrant laws and the anti Semitism

583
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and anti immigrant feeling baked into American politics in the

584
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties. It kept the door largely shut to the

585
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Jewish refugees trying to flee, and Roosevelt he didn't spend

586
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>his political capital to force it open, to stain on

587
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<v Speaker 1>that administration that history has not forgotten. What Roosevelt did

588
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 1>do in late nineteen thirty eight was to begin quietly

589
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>but urgently to prepare. He looked at what German airpower

590
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<v Speaker 1>had done to intimidate Europe at Munich, and became convinced

591
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<v Speaker 1>that the United States needed, above all, to build airplanes,

592
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 1>thousands of them, and to start rearming in earnest. He

593
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 1>began laying the groundwork to become, in a phrase he'd

594
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>later make famous, the arsenal of democracy. He couldn't yet

595
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 1>say that out loud, but the pivot of his presidency

596
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 1>away from domestic reform and toward the coming war was

597
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>now fully underway, and so our story now takes us

598
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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen thirty nine year of uneasy peace, though almost

599
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>no one knew yet just how little of it was left.

600
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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt opened the year with the State of the Union

601
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<v Speaker 1>address in January that marked a real turning point in

602
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<v Speaker 1>his rhetoric. He told Congress and the country in effect,

603
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that the days of comfortable isolation they were coming to

604
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<v Speaker 1>an end. He warned that there were times when a

605
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<v Speaker 1>nation's neutrality laws could actually help an aggressor and hurt

606
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<v Speaker 1>the victim. A direct shot at the neutrality acts he'd

607
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 1>been forced to sign. He argued that America's own security

608
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>was bound up with the fate of democracy abroad. He

609
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was trying carefully to turn the country's gaze outward and

610
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<v Speaker 1>to prepare it for the idea that staying truly safe

611
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>might require more than hiding behind two oceans. The concrete

612
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>fight that spring and summer was over those neutrality acts.

613
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt and his allies pushed hard to revise them, specifically

614
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<v Speaker 1>to repeal the arms embargo, so that if the war came,

615
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<v Speaker 1>the democracies could at least buy weapons from the United States.

616
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<v Speaker 1>The principle was called cash and carry. You pay cash,

617
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<v Speaker 1>you carry the goods away in your own ships, so

618
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<v Speaker 1>America takes no financial and shipping risk. It was a

619
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<v Speaker 1>way to help Britain in France without sending American boys

620
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 1>or even American vessels into Harm's way. But the isolationists

621
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<v Speaker 1>in Congress dug in and in the summer of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine they blocked him. In a now legendary meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt and his Secretary of State Warren senate leaders that

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<v Speaker 1>war was coming in Europe. Within months, one key isolationist

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<v Speaker 1>senator reportedly insisted that there would be no war, that

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<v Speaker 1>the President was crying wolf. Congress adjourned for the summer

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<v Speaker 1>without revising the law. Roosevelt's hands were still tied. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the news from Europe got worse and worse, and March,

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler had seized the rest of Czechoslovakia, exposing Munich as

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<v Speaker 1>the sham. Roosevelt knew that it was Selni grabbed Albania

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<v Speaker 1>in April. The Spanish Civil War ended the spring with

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<v Speaker 1>Franco's fascist victory. Hitler began to menace Poland, demanding the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Danzing and a corridor through Polish territory, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in late August of nineteen thirty nine came the

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<v Speaker 1>thunderbolt that stunned the entire world. Nazi Germany and the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union, bitter ideological enemies, fascism and communism signed a

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<v Speaker 1>non aggression pact. Hitler and Stalin were shaking hands. Secretly

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<v Speaker 1>they agreed to carve up Poland and Eastern Europe between them.

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<v Speaker 1>It meant that Hitler could now attack Poland in the

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<v Speaker 1>west without fear of the Soviet striking him in the east.

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<v Speaker 1>Last barrier was gone, and everyone who knew what the

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<v Speaker 1>pact meant was about to get a wake up call. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin Roosevelt is going to be woken up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night on September the one, nineteen thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be told what has happened. This stretch

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<v Speaker 1>that began in the summer of nineteen thirty nine started

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<v Speaker 1>with honestly FDR trying to keep the nation alive. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time this episode has ended in September of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine, he'd become something else, the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's greatest democracy, staring down the most dangerous moment

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<v Speaker 1>for that institution in history. In between, he transformed his

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<v Speaker 1>own country social security, the minimum wage, the right to union,

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<v Speaker 1>federal insurance for your bank deposits. A cop looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street, electricity strung out to the countryside these weren't

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<v Speaker 1>here when he started, but most of them are still

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<v Speaker 1>here today. He built a coalition that would dominate American

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<v Speaker 1>life for a generation. He permanently expanded what people expected

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<v Speaker 1>their government to do for them. That's the New Deals legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd definitely so argue about it. That argument is

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<v Speaker 1>American politics in a lot of ways. But he also

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<v Speaker 1>learned his limits. The court packing fight and the failed

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<v Speaker 1>purge revealed a man who could overreach badly, who could

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<v Speaker 1>mistake a landslide for a blank check. The Roosevelt recession

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<v Speaker 1>showed that he hadn't even fully solved the code of

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<v Speaker 1>the depression. It would take the war and the colossal

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<v Speaker 1>spanning it demanded to finally end it. And on the

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<v Speaker 1>great moral question of refugees fleeing Hitler's grasp, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say history has rendered Roosevelt a pretty hard verdict. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's this foreign story by which the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this has kind of swallowed everything else. Roosevelt spent these

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<v Speaker 1>years trying to walk a tightrope the catastrophe coming, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to warn his people, and being yanked back every time

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<v Speaker 1>you got too far ahead of them. He learned patience.

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<v Speaker 1>You learned to lead from just half a step in front,

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<v Speaker 1>never more. And as the curtain falls on our story

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<v Speaker 1>on September the first, nineteen thirty nine, he's a president

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<v Speaker 1>boxed in by neutrality laws. He despises, watching the world

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<v Speaker 1>he feared come true, knowing the hardest chapter of his

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<v Speaker 1>life and his countryes is about to begin. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to pick that up next time in a

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<v Speaker 1>third term that no president has ever sought, a desperate

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<v Speaker 1>effort to arm the democracies, and we're going to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through and what is going to be the last ever

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<v Speaker 1>story arc for this podcast, for something that I started

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago. Maybe it's finally coming to an end

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<v Speaker 1>in the
