Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. Today, I'm joined once again
Speaker 1: by John from Canada for part two of his story.
Speaker 1: In our first conversation, John shared years of strange experiences
Speaker 1: in the Canadian wilderness, including unusual tracks, vocalizations, possible sasquatch activity,
Speaker 1: and encounters that left him questioning exactly what might be
Speaker 1: living in these remote forests. Today, John continues his story
Speaker 1: with even more unusual experiences. He recalls coming across a
Speaker 1: terrified park worker armed with bear spray who believed a
Speaker 1: large creature was following him through the woods. John also
Speaker 1: talks about missing time and was John simply experiencing a
Speaker 1: series of unusual events in the Canadian wilderness or is
Speaker 1: there something much stranger behind these encounters. If you enjoy
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Speaker 1: With all that being said, let's dive straight into our
Speaker 1: part two series with John from the Canadian wilderness. All right, John,
Speaker 1: welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. It's an absolute pleasure to
Speaker 1: have you back on the show. How are you doing today.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Thank you, and the greetings to everybody
Speaker 2: listening as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, last time we didn't get enough time to finish
Speaker 1: up your story, so we're doing that today, John, if
Speaker 1: you would continue with your encounters and experiences from Canada, please.
Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. So when you touched upon asking if anybody
Speaker 2: if I got terrorized by them or fearful. I never did,
Speaker 2: but I got shocked and surprised. But I did encounter
Speaker 2: somebody that was afraid and I read a sighting by
Speaker 2: a park worker on one of them. I think it
Speaker 2: was a big foot reporting center, and you know, I
Speaker 2: was scanning through all these people's stories, you know, just
Speaker 2: it was really drawing up my story. So I saw
Speaker 2: one where a park worker on Corey Road, at which
Speaker 2: in Cree, felt creepy, like something was watching him as
Speaker 2: he removed rocks from the trail and he was really
Speaker 2: creeped out by it. So that was his report, and
Speaker 2: I thought I was there that day. I ran into him,
Speaker 2: but he had written a different time like a different year,
Speaker 2: so I thought, oh, that's not the year I was there.
Speaker 2: But my encounter was with him was I was walking
Speaker 2: back down from the falls. We had finished the tour,
Speaker 2: like we were heading back down Corey Road. Was ten
Speaker 2: minutes into the hike, and I come across his park
Speaker 2: worker ducking looking in the woods with his bears break
Speaker 2: and like he's about to spray something. And as somebody
Speaker 2: scuffed their foot. I had a pretty quiet group and
Speaker 2: somebody scuffed their foot and he spun and I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't shoot, I'm not a bear, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see you guys. I'm like, what's going on.
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I was taking these big rocks off
Speaker 2: the trail. Somebody's put these rocks all down. The rocks
Speaker 2: fight all the way down Corey Road, like every fifty
Speaker 2: feet there's these big rocks placed in the middle of
Speaker 2: the road. And he's like, has a moving these rocks.
Speaker 2: There's something behind me. It was really creeping me out.
Speaker 2: He's like, really creeping. I goes it was a bear
Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't think it's a bear. And
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, one of my students is like Hey,
Speaker 2: there's something under the furnace here. It's moving right, it's
Speaker 2: free and this thing was moving around very casually, but
Speaker 2: we couldn't see it, and so then then it kind
Speaker 2: of just faded off. I'm like, then that's not acting
Speaker 2: like a bear, and he's like, I don't know what
Speaker 2: that is, but it was. It was. It made me
Speaker 2: feel creeped out, like I was scared, and so this
Speaker 2: guy was terrified. I'm like, well, okay, we don't know
Speaker 2: what it was. Continued on and I had these rushing
Speaker 2: guys and they're like, let's help them, and they're they're
Speaker 2: lifting the rocks off the trail, and I ran into
Speaker 2: a couple of other guys. I'm like, how far dout
Speaker 2: of these rocks filing? He goes all the way down
Speaker 2: to the picnic and I'm like, holy cow, who would
Speaker 2: do this? He's like, ah, some kids. And I thought
Speaker 2: about the kids that I was hearing in the park,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who are these kids? They sounded like
Speaker 2: a bunch of rowdy boys. Okay, And now this is
Speaker 2: the same time, like when the monkeys were going and stuff.
Speaker 2: Different things are happening, and so I just thought these kids, like, well,
Speaker 2: it could be these kids I hear sometimes they're kind
Speaker 2: of rowdy and I don't know where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: But one day we were at the Douglas for a
Speaker 2: tree stump where we stop and everybody climbs on I
Speaker 2: take photos, and I could hear these kids going down
Speaker 2: Corey Road, which I couldn't see Corey but it's not
Speaker 2: too far away, and they were zooming down like they're
Speaker 2: on bicycles. I'm like, man, they're really flying down on
Speaker 2: their bikes. But I was listening for the bicycle sounds,
Speaker 2: you know that you would hear that bikes make, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear any bicycle sounds. So when I'm hiking
Speaker 2: down Corey Road, I'm looking at the ground because I'm
Speaker 2: looking for bicycle tire tracks. The whole way down there
Speaker 2: should be some, and the whole way down there busines.
Speaker 2: This girl finally asked me, She's like, what have you
Speaker 2: been looking for? You keeps looking at the ground. I'm
Speaker 2: looking for tire tracks for bicycles. And I said, didn't
Speaker 2: you hear those kids and she was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of heard them. I go, well, they were
Speaker 2: really cooking it down the mountain there, like they had
Speaker 2: to have been on mountain bikes, you know, like there's
Speaker 2: no tire tread zoughe. She's like, yeah, yeah, they were
Speaker 2: going fast, you know. And I guess the rest of
Speaker 2: the group really they just sound like people see you
Speaker 2: don't They're like background noise, you don't really pay attention.
Speaker 2: But for me being there, I'm like, Okay, who are
Speaker 2: these kids? Because are they how are they getting mountain
Speaker 2: bikes in there? They must be coming in from the
Speaker 2: illegal trail like Corey Road where it's only access for
Speaker 2: the government vehicles, and they would have to lift their
Speaker 2: mountain bikes over these giant gates because Corey Road goes
Speaker 2: through people's private property and so they have cameras and everything.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking maybe they did that, like maybe they
Speaker 2: got their bikes in this way, because how would they
Speaker 2: get the bikes and they would have to like bring
Speaker 2: them over in a boat. There's no boats. So I
Speaker 2: kept encountering these these kids and girls. And so another
Speaker 2: time they shocked me when we were in the berry patch.
Speaker 2: It was close to me because these two German girls
Speaker 2: were dying to go swimming. They had their bathing suits
Speaker 2: on so they was warm, and this is when I
Speaker 2: still didn't know it was Sasquatch, and so I remember
Speaker 2: these girls going, can we go swimming? Now? We had
Speaker 2: picked berries for about twenty minutes. I'm like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just one hundred yards through the forest here, and it's there.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful place to swim. It's really cold water, but
Speaker 2: gorgeous place of swim. So they run ahead, and two
Speaker 2: guys chased them, and then another guy's kind of trailing behind,
Speaker 2: and then there's seven of us in single file walking
Speaker 2: out of the berry patch, and just as we're walking
Speaker 2: to my left, about eight feet to my left in
Speaker 2: the bush, it erupts yelling like party calls, like guys
Speaker 2: and girls woo yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And then
Speaker 2: they went into like whistling and complex animal sounds, and
Speaker 2: then they went caut and everybody's shoulders jumped when it
Speaker 2: was like an ambush of sound, and I was like,
Speaker 2: holy crap. And then the guy that was in the
Speaker 2: woods started doing out his nutty calls like he was
Speaker 2: returning the call, like he was just doing all these
Speaker 2: funny calls, and the people in the bush were really
Speaker 2: amused by that, and they started laughing their butts off,
Speaker 2: and it sounded like just a bunch of like a
Speaker 2: couple of girls and guys teenagers in there. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: who the heck are those people? And this German guy
Speaker 2: in front of me, he's about fifty years old, He's like,
Speaker 2: they sound like they're on magic mushrooms, you know, because
Speaker 2: they did sound weird. And I'm like yeah, and I said,
Speaker 2: and so that guy when he yelled out, they called back.
Speaker 2: They laughed, and then they did a whole bunch more
Speaker 2: calls to return what he what he had called, and
Speaker 2: then they were laughing again. And I said to the
Speaker 2: German guy, chief, any did anybody talk? Like, did anybody
Speaker 2: talk to those people? Where did those people come from?
Speaker 2: And I'm looking in the bush and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see clothing and I don't see anything. I'm like and
Speaker 2: he it's like, well, I don't know. They must be high.
Speaker 2: And I'm playing king yeah, And I wanted to talk
Speaker 2: to them, but my group was already far into the thing,
Speaker 2: and I thought, mm hmm, and maybe if they're on drugs,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll just leave them alone, right, And so I said,
Speaker 2: that was really cool sounds. And I said, see you guys,
Speaker 2: and I said goodbye. To them. And then I walked
Speaker 2: through the woods and everybody's swimming, and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: did anybody talk to those people back there? And everybody's
Speaker 2: like what people a go those people that made all
Speaker 2: those weird noises and they're like, I thought you did that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I didn't do that. It's just the
Speaker 2: way I could make that noise. And so that was
Speaker 2: another that was a shocker. It wasn't fearful, it wasn't terrifying.
Speaker 2: It just like jolted us out of our shirts almost,
Speaker 2: you know. It was so surprising. So they were just
Speaker 2: doing another pranky thing. And I think they were sasquatches.
Speaker 2: This was a confusing thing, like with the little people
Speaker 2: and the sasquatches. It was really confusing as to what
Speaker 2: was happening. But when it comes to being afraid, when
Speaker 2: I go to Christie Lake, go to my Christie Lake encounters,
Speaker 2: I was having weird encounters up there, and I think
Speaker 2: I mentioned that I encountered a gorilla type of creature.
Speaker 2: I was trying to get into this mutt lake and
Speaker 2: as a kid, I've always all our cousins like this.
Speaker 2: It's a quick sand lake. A train bridge goes over
Speaker 2: and I've always been pulled to this area. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: have a hard time getting in there. We can walk
Speaker 2: on the train tracks and we could look over the
Speaker 2: marsh from the mud Lake Bridge, and they had to
Speaker 2: get engineers to Mountain Bridge because they discovered it with
Speaker 2: like a quicksand lake. And so it was always intriguing
Speaker 2: to me. And so trail through the bullrushes into this lake,
Speaker 2: and I thought, I've got to bring a boat in here,
Speaker 2: and I want to poke the ground and see how
Speaker 2: sandy it is, you know. And so I took a
Speaker 2: canoe up one time and I couldn't. I kept trying
Speaker 2: to get through panels of the bull rushes, and I
Speaker 2: kept getting dead ends. And like, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: go along the channel along the shore about sixty yards
Speaker 2: in and you know, it's a narrow channel, and I'll
Speaker 2: park my newe and I'll hike up that hill and
Speaker 2: look over to see if I can find a channel.
Speaker 2: If not, I'm just gonna hike over there. And so
Speaker 2: I I'm climbing the hell. I got about forty yards
Speaker 2: up this hill and I'm just looking I gotta go higher,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I hear this guy's voice
Speaker 2: like eh, and I'm thinking, oh, there's a dude up there,
Speaker 2: and he's like ah ah, and he starts complaining. He's
Speaker 2: like ah, and then he starts going rough and then
Speaker 2: the bush starts shaking like crazy and he's and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the hell's wrong with this guy? And I'm staring.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's this guy doing? I went I was
Speaker 2: a pretty athletic guy back then. I wasn't really afraid.
Speaker 2: I think some people would have ran away. At that point.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is this is a kook in
Speaker 2: the in the wilderness, Like what's this? Then he went
Speaker 2: more like a gorilla, and then it was full on
Speaker 2: like gorilla. So I'm like, I'm so curious. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta I changed my angle and I see this
Speaker 2: the silhouette of this arm, and it's like a big
Speaker 2: muscly arm going up to a big musky shoulder, and
Speaker 2: then there's a bulk mask that the rest of the
Speaker 2: shrub was too dense to see through. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: this looks like a gorilla arm. I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: heck is this thing? Right? And so all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I realized I think it's going to burst out
Speaker 2: of the bush and attack me. So I better. I
Speaker 2: wasn't terrified by I don't want to get attacked by
Speaker 2: an animal. So I spun around and I dislodged this
Speaker 2: round rock like a small bowling ball, and it rolled
Speaker 2: down with me. It banged into my ankle. I almost
Speaker 2: fell down the fie fallen down the sill. It would
Speaker 2: have broken my neck, and I almost fell and I stumbled,
Speaker 2: and I grabbed the edges of my canoe and I
Speaker 2: wanted to kick off down this channel. I'm still vulnerable,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking this thing might come at me, you know.
Speaker 2: And as soon as I kick off, I instead of
Speaker 2: going straight down the channel, my canu turned right and
Speaker 2: slammed into the bul rushes, and my right hand slipped
Speaker 2: off the canoe and there was a little metal metal
Speaker 2: paddle guard there with a sliver of metal sticking up,
Speaker 2: and it sliced through from my wrist all the way
Speaker 2: to the inside of my elbow. And I still have
Speaker 2: the scar near my elbow. It's like a line. So
Speaker 2: this scar is related to a sawsquatch event. And so
Speaker 2: I panicked and I grabbed my paddle and I paddled
Speaker 2: so fast out of there because I thought this thing's
Speaker 2: gonna come landing on me. I got out until up
Speaker 2: the water and I turned around and I'm staring at
Speaker 2: this bush is still shaking, but it's not grunting anymore,
Speaker 2: and I'm staring at him like I'm I wanted to
Speaker 2: go and explore this whole area. Now there's this thing,
Speaker 2: Like what is this thing? It's like a gorilla? Like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to ask my uncle if somebody's lost
Speaker 2: the gorilla because I can't make any sense of this.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, man, yeah, I thought I still
Speaker 2: want to go in there, but I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: going with this thing lurking around. So I paddled back
Speaker 2: down to my uncle's place, came in and I'd given
Speaker 2: him some really yummy pipe tobacco that he wanted to change,
Speaker 2: and he's lighting it up. He's like, I'm really loving this,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, yeah, okay, and I told him
Speaker 2: what happened. I go there's a gorilla up at the
Speaker 2: end of the lake, like did somebody lose a gorilla?
Speaker 2: And he's puffing his pipe and he's laughing at me.
Speaker 2: He's like, there's no gorillas around here. I'm like, but like,
Speaker 2: I what else would it be? I mean there's train
Speaker 2: tracks further up. I mean, did it fall off a train?
Speaker 2: Laughing at everything I'm suggesting, and what I'm suggesting is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: But when you have these like these encounters, the brain
Speaker 2: tries to fill in the blanks and make sense of it.
Speaker 2: And it's just like the girls that saw the sloth thing.
Speaker 2: They were like, could have sloth just migrate up to
Speaker 2: British Columbia from Chile. I mean, that's the most ridiculous suggestion,
Speaker 2: but it's a strange thing you're trying to make sense of,
Speaker 2: you know, so you're like, oh, how did this happen?
Speaker 2: You know, how could this creature get here? But so
Speaker 2: I went down. I was like, Okay, I still want
Speaker 2: to explore that, but I don't think I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: the boat. So I decided the mountain bike. I studied
Speaker 2: the map of the area and I saw, oh, Christi
Speaker 2: Lake Road. It kind of continues through the forest like
Speaker 2: old Christie Lake Road. So I thought, I can mountain
Speaker 2: bike all through there. And my uncle said, yeah, there
Speaker 2: used to be an old hunting club up there. There's
Speaker 2: some trails like in the seventies early seventies, there was
Speaker 2: a hunting club. I'm like, cool, I got all these
Speaker 2: trails to go through, and I can get access to
Speaker 2: that mud lake through behind it, from behind it, going
Speaker 2: in by the woods. Now, I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: some sort of energy vortex there. I mean, sasquats tend
Speaker 2: to be known to be hanging out in areas where
Speaker 2: there's energy vortex. Is either to protect the area from
Speaker 2: things coming through, or just maybe they access it, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a place that they can access to traverse to
Speaker 2: other places. I don't know, but I always felt something
Speaker 2: in this area. And so I mountain biked up into
Speaker 2: this area. And my uncle was a great historian for
Speaker 2: our family. He knew all the heritage of how we
Speaker 2: settled there after the War of eighteen twelve, and and
Speaker 2: so I went through the forest and I found these
Speaker 2: there's these little lakes around the main lake. And so
Speaker 2: I looked through the woods. I'm like, there's a lake
Speaker 2: and a house. So I thought I got to go
Speaker 2: explore that. And it was an abandoned farmhouse that looked
Speaker 2: very much like my grandfather's. I was at the other end,
Speaker 2: at the head of the lake. I thought, I wonder
Speaker 2: if this is my one of my ancestors' houses, you know.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that and looking at surveying the lake,
Speaker 2: and the lake was long and sort of narrow, and
Speaker 2: I was pretty much at the end, at the one
Speaker 2: end of it. And so all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: see this world wind, lazy whirlwind moving along the shore
Speaker 2: on the other side, and I'm just watching it, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's you know, those little dirt devils,
Speaker 2: like kind of like a whirlwind, but this one's quite lazy,
Speaker 2: and it's going around the shore. And then it goes
Speaker 2: around the lake and it starts to come towards me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what a strange wind, you know, like
Speaker 2: this is pretty strange. And it went through some sumacx
Speaker 2: it went behind me and went behind me. My ear
Speaker 2: pressure changed, like my ears kind of like went into
Speaker 2: a vacuum for a second. And I felt this chill
Speaker 2: as it went behind me. And then it stopped five
Speaker 2: feet away from me under this tree, and the lower
Speaker 2: branches of this tree were vibrating and blowing to this
Speaker 2: to it's there, and I'm thinking, what the heck, And
Speaker 2: then a voice came out of it woo like oh.
Speaker 2: I was like, I bolted so fast. I went had
Speaker 2: to run through the forest grab my mountain bike, and
Speaker 2: I was I was pretty fast mountain biker, clicking through
Speaker 2: the gears like and this thing. I could hear its
Speaker 2: footfalls approaching, like catching up to me. I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: no way this thinking I'm on high gear. I'm done,
Speaker 2: like I can't wipe out, I'll kill myself. And I'm
Speaker 2: booging it through these trails to get back through the road.
Speaker 2: I'm just dodging out of there, and the footfalls got
Speaker 2: right on my back wheel and I'm like, I thought,
Speaker 2: it's gonna whatever it is, it's gonna yank me off
Speaker 2: my bike. I turn around and there's nothing there, and
Speaker 2: so I slam on my brakes and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the heck. I'm looking around. I'm like, now it's quiet.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where did it go? And I'm like hey,
Speaker 2: And I started yelling out to it, where are you?
Speaker 2: Where'd you go? And I'm looking behind these bushes. I
Speaker 2: start looking for it, like what the hell, where are you? Hey?
Speaker 2: Where are you? When I start talking to it, and
Speaker 2: then it started to move along across this clearing and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I see you. I see you. And it
Speaker 2: went into the trees and it sat there in the
Speaker 2: trees and I could see a branch vibrating because it
Speaker 2: was under it. I'm like, I know you're there, Like,
Speaker 2: can you come out? I'm like, is this a leprechaun?
Speaker 2: I this is my internal dialogue. I'm like this, is
Speaker 2: this a leprechaun? Or what is this? You know, like
Speaker 2: like I'm thinking spirit of the forest, like leprecauns are
Speaker 2: like that, but why like leprecauns are in Ireland. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking, like trying to make sense of
Speaker 2: this invisible thing. So I was actually talking to it,
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking if anybody came and saw me,
Speaker 2: now look insane. And so then it's like a light
Speaker 2: s which it felt like it was gone. It's like
Speaker 2: I didn't feel anymore. It's like, Okay, I think it's gone.
Speaker 2: So I got on my bike and as soon as
Speaker 2: I started riding, it was in pursuit of me again.
Speaker 2: I hear like I hear it's footfalls just dart at me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I start running. I start peddling it.
Speaker 2: But I'm laughing because I'm like this isn't making any sense,
Speaker 2: And as I'm laughing, all of a sudden, I think
Speaker 2: I connected with it because I could feel it, and
Speaker 2: I could feel like it was having fun, like it
Speaker 2: was having fun with me, not maliciously, but just camaraderie,
Speaker 2: Like it felt like it was having a good time.
Speaker 2: And I was laughing. I'm like, I'm laughing because I
Speaker 2: can't make any sense of this. So I I drive down.
Speaker 2: Christy Lake wrote a bit thinking, how am I going
Speaker 2: to like I always tell my uncle about my adventures
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I can tell him. I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask him about that house, but I don't think I
Speaker 2: can mention this stuff to him. He's going to think
Speaker 2: I'm crazy. So then I stopped and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm not satisfied. I got to see what that is.
Speaker 2: I'm going back. So I went back. I went all
Speaker 2: the way to the house, and I'm staring at this house,
Speaker 2: and then I'm thinking it came from the house maybe,
Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, I don't know what you are,
Speaker 2: but I'm not afraid. You know, I'm protected by the creator.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of readings by psychics a long
Speaker 2: time who both of them said I'm protected like by
Speaker 2: a golden energy, and so they said nothing bad can
Speaker 2: happen to you and they but those two psychics also
Speaker 2: predicted my sasquatch encounters later on, and so that's a
Speaker 2: cool story because this I went over to my friend's house.
Speaker 2: His uncle is this Irish psychic and one of the
Speaker 2: strongest psychics in Ireland, so it was sort of a
Speaker 2: spontaneous Hey, you want to get a reading. I don't
Speaker 2: go looking for psychic reading. So I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was about twenty one years old, and he said, you're
Speaker 2: going to be in the mountains working for a guy
Speaker 2: ning gym, doing canoeing and hiking. You're going to be
Speaker 2: driving a boat. You're going to be a captain of
Speaker 2: a boat that looks like a bus. And he's like,
Speaker 2: does that make any sense. I'm like no, but my
Speaker 2: cousin's name is Jim. But my cousin at that time
Speaker 2: was working for Kantiki tourist traveling all over the world.
Speaker 2: He didn't live in Vancouver yet, so I had a
Speaker 2: buddy named Jim that I was living with, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: maybe me and him are going to move out west
Speaker 2: and start up a company out there. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but he detailed. He said, wow, I've never seen anybody
Speaker 2: when you're doing that job. You're going to meet Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: You're going to meet bigfoots. And I'm like what. He's like,
Speaker 2: I have never had a reading where I've read somebody,
Speaker 2: and I see them meeting Sasquatch, and he goes, wow,
Speaker 2: in fact, I think I can connect with them now.
Speaker 2: And so he was like I was watching the psychic
Speaker 2: having his own epiphany about it, and I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is weird. So then a couple of years later, I'm
Speaker 2: dating a girl whose mother is friends with a very
Speaker 2: strong psychic, and so there was a street festival in
Speaker 2: the New Age bookstore I used to go to. They
Speaker 2: were contributing to the festival by having free psychic readings.
Speaker 2: So I ran into my girlfriend's mom. She's like, get
Speaker 2: a reading. I'm like, oh, so, it's just spontaneous and
Speaker 2: it's free, and so she said, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: you last. So she does a reading of me and
Speaker 2: she's dead on accurate about it, very very impressive psychic.
Speaker 2: And then she gets to this BC job. Like the
Speaker 2: other guy, She's like, you're going to be working out
Speaker 2: in BC and you're going to have a great time
Speaker 2: and everything, and then she finished the reading. But then
Speaker 2: as we were walking away, she grabbed my arm. She goes,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you are going to be meeting sasquatches.
Speaker 2: She goes, oh my god, this just came in. You
Speaker 2: are Oh my god, you're going to be She goes,
Speaker 2: I have never had a reading where I see people
Speaker 2: meeting sasquatches. And she's like, oh my god, it's like
Speaker 2: I can almost feel them. And so I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: this is cool like the other psychic And she said,
Speaker 2: you're not going to remember everything I've told you until
Speaker 2: it starts happening. She goes, like, none of the stuff
Speaker 2: I told you about will even start happening for about
Speaker 2: a year and a half, like all the other stuff
Speaker 2: she told me that would happen that she was totally
Speaker 2: right about. And so she said, oh. She said after
Speaker 2: all of that, she says, you're going to have those
Speaker 2: encounters and then you're not going to think about it
Speaker 2: for twenty years. And I said, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: You have sasquatch encounters. How can you possibly forget about that?
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense. And she goes, I know
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, but that's what I see, and
Speaker 2: she was right. I mean, but I think it's because
Speaker 2: after it happened, trying to tell people after I shut
Speaker 2: down because I realized trying to tell people about this
Speaker 2: doesn't work so well. People get uncomfortable. They just they
Speaker 2: might judge me as a kook, and so I shut down.
Speaker 2: I think I just buried it in a storage locker
Speaker 2: in my mind. And at around twenty eleven we had
Speaker 2: a family reunion and now I just have to mention.
Speaker 2: After the tour season in BC, it winds down. So
Speaker 2: in October I did my last houseboat trip and there
Speaker 2: is a family reunion at Christie Lake that we were
Speaker 2: going to. Jim was going to fly out, my cousin
Speaker 2: was going to fly out. I'm driving my RX seven
Speaker 2: back and so so I left that like October eighth
Speaker 2: or ninth for the reunion that was on the fifteenth
Speaker 2: at Christy Lake at the boy Scout Camp. The Boy
Speaker 2: Scout Camp, that land used to be owned by my
Speaker 2: great grandfather and he sold it to them in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty seven for two thousand dollars because he knew it
Speaker 2: will The Boy Scouts was a new thing then, and
Speaker 2: he knew this camp will always be a wilderness area,
Speaker 2: always no development, no cottages. He wanted to keep this
Speaker 2: area wild and so he sold it to them because
Speaker 2: it would preserve it. And so this boy Scout leader
Speaker 2: or a boy Scout had an encounter there and he
Speaker 2: submitted on one of the sites. So when he was
Speaker 2: like nineteen eighty two, I think he was a kid,
Speaker 2: they do this camp out where I did this too
Speaker 2: when I was a scout. You go on a tent
Speaker 2: for the night and they give you one match. It's
Speaker 2: like it's his challenge just to stay out in the
Speaker 2: tent by yourself all night. And so there was this
Speaker 2: big field I think, where all the kids were doing it,
Speaker 2: and so something buzzed all their tents and this guy said,
Speaker 2: this weird creature is outside my tent making all kinds
Speaker 2: of weird noises. And at breakfast, all the other kids
Speaker 2: thought I did it because I'm a bit of a prankster,
Speaker 2: but he said, I never said anything because I just
Speaker 2: didn't know what to make of this creature. And so
Speaker 2: zoom ahead to when he's like nineteen eighty eight, he's
Speaker 2: a guide and the camp's closing down, so all the
Speaker 2: kids have gone home and the counselors have the camp
Speaker 2: for a week like a vacation. And so he was
Speaker 2: like eleven thirty at night. He was reading and he
Speaker 2: heard somebody walking around, so he got up to look,
Speaker 2: and it was a ten foot tall sasquatch walking between
Speaker 2: the cabins. And he knew that because it matched the
Speaker 2: doorframe of one of the cabins that's ten feet high.
Speaker 2: And it walked through the empty field and into the woods.
Speaker 2: And you can find his report online, but I think
Speaker 2: he got a flashlight and showing it at its eyes.
Speaker 2: It had yellow eyes and made some kooky noises, and
Speaker 2: so then he went inside. And then another night he
Speaker 2: was bringing a lady friend in a boat and he
Speaker 2: wanted to go to the other side of the lake
Speaker 2: where I had my gorilla encounter, and he was looking
Speaker 2: for some privacy, was his girlfriend, and he heard all
Speaker 2: these the similar noises from this creature showing his light
Speaker 2: and saw these yellow eyes, and his girlfriend was like,
Speaker 2: what is that and he's like, he didn't know what
Speaker 2: to say, so he just said, I think it's a coyote.
Speaker 2: We'll go somewhere else, and so he just left it
Speaker 2: at that but that was around the same time I
Speaker 2: was bushwhacking it around there having my encounters. And so
Speaker 2: because I went every year to visit my uncle, I
Speaker 2: went multiple times. I loved going out there, even in
Speaker 2: the winter. And so basically I'm sorry, I'm just getting
Speaker 2: of thought here. Yeah. So anyway, so at the end
Speaker 2: of my tour season, I'm driving across Canada to go
Speaker 2: to this family reunion and I get there. It's like
Speaker 2: a quarter to three in the morning. I'm falling asleep
Speaker 2: at the wheel for the last two miles and I
Speaker 2: actually drove off the road a bit and came back
Speaker 2: and I woke up about one hundred yards from the
Speaker 2: camp entrance and were we rented out the Little Kids
Speaker 2: ca which was just down the road from the boy
Speaker 2: Scout camp. And so I thought, I woke up and
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping in the road. I'm like, oh, crad. I
Speaker 2: slept in the road and my RC seven, I had
Speaker 2: a racing ARC seven. It was super loud, and I
Speaker 2: pulled into the camp and it was a downhill. I thought,
Speaker 2: I better turn my car up. I'm gonna wake everybody up.
Speaker 2: So I just coasted down in around a cabin and
Speaker 2: all my cousins and my parents' cars are all there
Speaker 2: in the grass under some trees. So I just parked
Speaker 2: and I had to go to the washroom. I got
Speaker 2: out and I didn't get a flashland. It was raining,
Speaker 2: and I turned around. I couldn't find it was so dark.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where's my car? And so I'm reaching out
Speaker 2: and I feel the trunk. So that's how dark it was.
Speaker 2: And I feel the door and I get in. I'm
Speaker 2: cold and I'm tired, and so I got in my
Speaker 2: car and I had blankets because I had slept in
Speaker 2: my car somewhere in Saskatchewan, you know, just I didn't
Speaker 2: stay in too many hotels on the drive across, and
Speaker 2: so I fall asleep right away. And then I'm woken
Speaker 2: up to a jolt, as if my car was picked
Speaker 2: up and dropped, or at least the front of it
Speaker 2: was picked up and dropped, and it jolted me away.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell? And it's pitch black, it's raining,
Speaker 2: and I know something's moving outside of my car, and
Speaker 2: I didn't like it was I was free. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not. I can't start my car to heat up,
Speaker 2: and I'm not opening my door and it's raining, and
Speaker 2: so I turned on my headlights just to illuminate the area,
Speaker 2: and I saw something. It was leaving behind my car,
Speaker 2: and it left and I don't know what it was,
Speaker 2: and I thought maybe it was a cousin, like walking
Speaker 2: from one cabin to the other. Didn't realize it had
Speaker 2: come in. I had no engine running and maybe walked
Speaker 2: into my car, or maybe a deer ran into my car.
Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out. I was tired, went right back
Speaker 2: to sleep. Then my cousin Jim, who've gone on an
Speaker 2: airplane and flew from Richmond to Ontario. He woke me
Speaker 2: up at about seven fifteen and he's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: on breakfast, dudey yeah, I'm going to go start breakfast
Speaker 2: in the main hall and you come and get a
Speaker 2: coffee and there's your cabin and he's like, I saw
Speaker 2: you from the airplane on the highway. I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: He was just joking, but this is how much I remember.
Speaker 2: And so he left and I fell back to sleep
Speaker 2: for about fifteen minutes and I woke up and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I got a stre I've been sitting in this car
Speaker 2: for like twenty two hours and stretching, and my cousins
Speaker 2: come around the corner and a couple more cousins. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen them in a while, and they come.
Speaker 2: They're looking at my car is completely dirty, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's my souvenir dust from Canada, you know, driving across Canada.
Speaker 2: And so he gets in front of my car. My
Speaker 2: car door is open, I'm stretching, and he's like one
Speaker 2: cousin Kevin, He's like, what the heck is that? And
Speaker 2: it's this enormous, muddy, greasy handprint on the hood of
Speaker 2: my car. I mean it's huge, and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the hell. And the first thing he says is that
Speaker 2: looks like a sasquatch hand man. That's like, do we
Speaker 2: got Bigfoot around here? And she's kind of joking, and
Speaker 2: his brother's like, it looks like something from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Jurassic Park came out in around
Speaker 2: two thousand or something, so you know, it's in people's heads.
Speaker 2: And he's like, it looks like something from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: And then this other buddy, I go, you know, something
Speaker 2: jolted my car and then I woke me up and
Speaker 2: it's like it was probably bigfoot man. Look at that,
Speaker 2: and the water was bubbling off of it like greasy,
Speaker 2: like it had basoline in the mud. And he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: how the waters were telling off? And then they had
Speaker 2: had no hot water in their cabin, they had cold showers.
Speaker 2: And then my other cousin said, well, maybe it's maybe
Speaker 2: it's a guy with pipe fitting gloves working on some muddy,
Speaker 2: greasy pipes. And he was kind of joking. I'm like,
Speaker 2: did somebody call a plumber? And he just laughed. He goes, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just kidding. And then the other cousin goes,
Speaker 2: they don't make pipe fitting gloves that size, like that
Speaker 2: hand is huge, and and I'm like, what the heck?
Speaker 2: Like I'm stunned. I'm like, well, like who, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like what happened here? I'm just all confused. And they're like, well,
Speaker 2: we're freezing, you get cold showers, we're getting into the
Speaker 2: you gotta go get a coffee. And so they left.
Speaker 2: So I walked down to the lake and I'm confused.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like and I'm thinking, did
Speaker 2: a sasquatch follow me from BC? And this is what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking. So I'm walking along the shore and I
Speaker 2: go past the cabins to a place where the forest
Speaker 2: comes right up to the water, and I felt that
Speaker 2: feeling of eyes on me that I'm so used to
Speaker 2: from Widge and Creek and from I'm just I got
Speaker 2: so used to that magnetic feeling of sensing them that
Speaker 2: I said one was in the wood. I knew one
Speaker 2: was in there, and I'm like, and so I'm thinking
Speaker 2: to it, did you follow me from BC? And I'm
Speaker 2: expecting a tree knock. I'm expecting something, and then it
Speaker 2: was like a light switch woof went off. Didn't feel
Speaker 2: it anymore, and I sat there for a minute and
Speaker 2: I think, okay, I think it's gone. And this us
Speaker 2: I used to the light switch thing where all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they're just gone. So I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: think it's gone. And I'm dazed. I'm dizzy. I'm like like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, how could could one follow me from BC?
Speaker 2: Like I was very confused on this matter because I'd
Speaker 2: never heard of sasquatch on this lake at this point.
Speaker 2: So I went in and I went into breakfast, started
Speaker 2: seeing all my cousins. They're like what time did you
Speaker 2: get here? And I asked my cousin, did you put
Speaker 2: a money handprint on my car? Because he wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: He knew it was a nice car. He wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to mess up my paint. So he's like, no, I
Speaker 2: didn't do that, and I'm like, okay. So I told
Speaker 2: my cousin and be like, hey, you guys, go look
Speaker 2: at my car. I think I have a sasquatch here.
Speaker 2: I turned out my car. But I was trying to
Speaker 2: tell some of the relatives. They're like, how did you
Speaker 2: like doing that job? And did you see bears? And
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, I said, but I had a lot
Speaker 2: of sasquatch encounters. And some of my cousins were like
Speaker 2: oh wow, and some of them shifted uncomfortably. So I thought, hmm,
Speaker 2: maybe I won't say too much. Like it's like, it's
Speaker 2: a hard strategy to tell people about this. So some
Speaker 2: people resonated with it. I told them a bit more
Speaker 2: about it. But when I got back into my parents'
Speaker 2: house in Ontario, and I thought, I'll just pick up
Speaker 2: a job because I'm going to go back to DC
Speaker 2: for the next season. So I thought I'll just pick
Speaker 2: up something to work at, and I got a job
Speaker 2: and I was working with a Portuguese guy and we
Speaker 2: would go out on a route and do work and
Speaker 2: we'd listen to the radio and a Sasquatch story came on.
Speaker 2: They were talking about Sasquatch and he's like, I love
Speaker 2: everything about Sasquatch. I'm like, well, I got like seven
Speaker 2: months encounters with them. So this guy wanted to gobble
Speaker 2: up every word like a sponge, and it was very therapeutic.
Speaker 2: And it's like I was always planning to journal all
Speaker 2: of my encounters, but I just didn't get around to it.
Speaker 2: But I was able, through a course of weeks tell
Speaker 2: this guy about all my encounters and he was freaking
Speaker 2: out and he would go to place new other places
Speaker 2: where we had to go work, and he would touch
Speaker 2: the stage friends with Sasquatch, and I'd be like, don't
Speaker 2: tell people that it's a little uncomfortable, you know, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like not everybody resonates with it right away,
Speaker 2: but he was just enthusiastic. So when I didn't really
Speaker 2: think about Sasquatch after that until we went to a
Speaker 2: family reunion again in twenty eleven at Christie lake, only
Speaker 2: this time we rented the cabins that have been there
Speaker 2: since my ancestors settled that. It was a Scottish family
Speaker 2: that settled on the other side of the river, and
Speaker 2: we were the Irish family that settled, and so they
Speaker 2: rent out cabins. They've been renting out cabins to a
Speaker 2: lot of Americans that come up and fish. We always
Speaker 2: saw Americans when we were kids growing up, coming out
Speaker 2: and fishing from Pennsylvania, from Ohio, all over the place.
Speaker 2: And so these fishermen from we were having a barbecue
Speaker 2: in the landowner I heard him say the word sasquatch.
Speaker 2: And he's a farmer, He's not the type of guy
Speaker 2: that would be in the sasquatch, and so I went, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, did you just say sasquatch? And he's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah. I go what are you talking about? He goes, well,
Speaker 2: you know, apparently he's all awkward, and he's like, we
Speaker 2: you know, these fishermen from Syracuse have been coming up
Speaker 2: here for about thirty years, you know, And I think
Speaker 2: I knew the guys and or I'd seen them before.
Speaker 2: And he goes, well, you know, the one guy he
Speaker 2: was he has to hike because he had open heart
Speaker 2: surgery and he has to go hiking every morning. So
Speaker 2: at early in the morning, he saw one by the
Speaker 2: back porch of our house and reaching for the barbecue,
Speaker 2: and he goes, actually, you should talk to my son
Speaker 2: about it. He knows more about it. So I went
Speaker 2: and I talked to his son about it, and so
Speaker 2: his son like told me the whole story about their
Speaker 2: counter and they've submitted their report on a website or
Speaker 2: a few websites somewhere. And so the one guy hiking,
Speaker 2: he had seen it reaching for the barbecue and the
Speaker 2: thigh leg was equal with the railing. But it was
Speaker 2: dark and he had a little pencil flashlight. So when
Speaker 2: he showed it over, the being turned and walked into
Speaker 2: the pasture behind that goes towards all the rental cabins
Speaker 2: on the other bay. And so he thought, this guy's
Speaker 2: up to no good, and so he followed him and
Speaker 2: he lost and the guy went into the woods. So
Speaker 2: then he saw him later on the road and it
Speaker 2: was a sasquash and it looked at him and then
Speaker 2: turned into the woods and he just stood there like WHOA.
Speaker 2: And that was I think that was the other day
Speaker 2: because he went back to that railing later and realized
Speaker 2: the railing comes up to his chest and he thought,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that thing's huge because it came up
Speaker 2: to its spy. And so they were doing a fishing derby.
Speaker 2: So they'd finished their fishing derby and they went up
Speaker 2: to the Tay River upstream from the lake. And I've
Speaker 2: had I having a counter there too. But they were
Speaker 2: drifting lazily back into the lake, just having a good time,
Speaker 2: and some canos were paddling up to them, and they
Speaker 2: waved through the canoes, and suddenly behind the canoes in
Speaker 2: the marsh, they saw a saucewatch stand up and walk
Speaker 2: into the bulrushes, like into the marsh that's dividing Mud
Speaker 2: Lake the Quicksand Lake from Christie Lake. And they couldn't believe,
Speaker 2: like nobody could walk in there, and they saw them,
Speaker 2: and so they set up trail cams and the sun
Speaker 2: told me, he goes, these aren't these guys aren't in
Speaker 2: great shape. And they've been coming up in January to
Speaker 2: check the batteries and photos. And because I said, do
Speaker 2: you believe them? And he goes, well, they're not the
Speaker 2: type of characters that would make it up. They've been
Speaker 2: coming up here for thirty years. They're pretty sober guys,
Speaker 2: and he goes, but the fact that they're coming up
Speaker 2: in January, it's not an easy place to get into
Speaker 2: even in the summer. And they're trudging in and checking
Speaker 2: the batteries. He goes, I'm pretty sure they're determined. So
Speaker 2: he goes, I kind of do believe him. I go,
Speaker 2: it brought up all of my memories from BC, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I work Jim, he and my
Speaker 2: cousin Jim. I go, I worked with Jim. I had
Speaker 2: tons of encounters, and I go, you know what, if
Speaker 2: they're on your property, I can give you some tips
Speaker 2: and I can. And he's like, oh, I don't. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be involved in that. So he
Speaker 2: just didn't want to be involved in that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: they're on their property. So I just I started looking
Speaker 2: into the it again, and I started telling my sister.
Speaker 2: You know, one yelled my name. She's like, how come
Speaker 2: you're just telling us now? I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just went dormant in my mind. I just packed
Speaker 2: it away. I don't think it's an uncomfortable thing to
Speaker 2: discuss so it just became too uncomfortable. I just buried it.
Speaker 2: And so then I kind of that's ten years after
Speaker 2: my encounters. But then I buried it again. I just
Speaker 2: shut down. Life got busy, and I guess when Todd Standing,
Speaker 2: you know Todd Standing, the guy that released the images,
Speaker 2: the video images of their faces really up close. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen Todd Standing. He's in Alberta
Speaker 2: by Radium and he's very cocky and like I take
Speaker 2: people out to see saft squats and he took Less
Speaker 2: Droud survivorman who had a show. I think you might
Speaker 2: be familiar with survivorman Less drouds. Are you familiar with him? Again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure the whole big community knows about Todd
Speaker 1: Standing and Lost Stroud for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I saw those images, it sparked this
Speaker 2: rekindling and then I went full on and started really
Speaker 2: recalling all my memories, started to write them down, and
Speaker 2: I mean with Todd's Standing, I like, okay, when I
Speaker 2: saw his video, because of my encounters, I'm like, my
Speaker 2: saw squash wouldn't fumble at the hill like that. They
Speaker 2: would just teleport, you know, so and you can't trick them.
Speaker 2: I know you can't trick them. So either they're purposely
Speaker 2: allowing Todd to film them, or Todd is faking it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like calling out people's being
Speaker 2: faked because I had my encounters and if people start saying, oh,
Speaker 2: you're lying, it would be horrible. So if he really does,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in good country for them, and he's
Speaker 2: out there aggressively looking at I mean I never was.
Speaker 2: I was never looking for them. I just accidentally ran
Speaker 2: into them. But he's out aggressively trying to get them,
Speaker 2: and so I don't I don't know. I can't figure
Speaker 2: that guy out if if he did, because when I
Speaker 2: saw that one fumbling up the hill, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe it's doing it on purpose, or maybe it doesn't
Speaker 2: have some the skills that the ones I encountered have,
Speaker 2: because they might have different skills, like people have different
Speaker 2: skills with math. You know, some are good at maths,
Speaker 2: some aren't. Some are good at teleporting, some aren't. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I just when I saw some of
Speaker 2: the video, I thought, no, Like I know sasquats and
Speaker 2: I know they wouldn't do that unless they're purposely doing
Speaker 2: it to get their images out there. So I'm on
Speaker 2: the fence. I don't want to call the guy out
Speaker 2: as being fake because if he is having encounters, that
Speaker 2: would be a you know, a travesty against him. But
Speaker 2: if he's is fake, then well, I guess he'll he'll
Speaker 2: eventually get like something coming back for boasting about all
Speaker 2: of the fakery he's done. But I don't I'm on
Speaker 2: the fence. I don't know what to make of him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's it's a little confusing. When
Speaker 2: I watch that, I'm thinking, well, I try to feel
Speaker 2: the spirit of the animals and I'm looking and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm I'm not sure. So I'm not
Speaker 2: going to say anything about that. But that's what triggered
Speaker 2: me to start exploring all of my events again. And so,
Speaker 2: you know the things Christy Lake, when I had encounters
Speaker 2: up there. I paddled up the creek one day and everything.
Speaker 2: I was listening to all the nature sounds a cadas,
Speaker 2: the birds, the frogs, and I just melt into the
Speaker 2: nature sounds. I just love it, and I'm just relaxing
Speaker 2: and I'm the river is not too strong, so I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of floating, and I get to these old
Speaker 2: cabins that had been flooded out, the roosts clapping, collapsing,
Speaker 2: and so I'm there and all of a sudden, like
Speaker 2: a blanket of silence goes over the whole area. Every bug,
Speaker 2: everything goes quiet. And I'm like, it's like feeling that
Speaker 2: creepiness and like, Okay, something's going on. And I feel
Speaker 2: all of these people over there in the in this
Speaker 2: corridor of woods that have been cut out maybe for
Speaker 2: a road, and I can feel them, and then I
Speaker 2: can I can feel them, and they were moving close
Speaker 2: to the water and I'm looking right at them, but
Speaker 2: they're invisible, like I can feel it. It's hard to explain,
Speaker 2: but anyway, So because of my missing time event at
Speaker 2: this racetrack and most where, I missed the whole day
Speaker 2: of races. I was displaced by ten miles. I started
Speaker 2: to investigate missing time and alien abduction. And then I
Speaker 2: started reading about channel material from extraterrestrials. I was really
Speaker 2: into that because I was trying to make sense of
Speaker 2: what happened that day. I missed the whole day of
Speaker 2: racing and got transported ten miles away, and don't have
Speaker 2: any memory of it, and so you know the channel
Speaker 2: material the Prism of Lira or extraterrestrial race. They're talking
Speaker 2: about how they brought Sasquatch to the planet, and I thought, wow,
Speaker 2: this is a really cool story, and so I knew,
Speaker 2: like I kind of felt like, okay, they do have
Speaker 2: these abilities that when I was experiencing these people on
Speaker 2: the water, I was looking in the sky for shifts
Speaker 2: because I thought, I think they're extraterrestrials because sometimes you
Speaker 2: can align with the consciousness of them if you're reading
Speaker 2: their material. This is what was going through my mind.
Speaker 2: And they were right at the shore. So I started
Speaker 2: talking to them. I'm like, hey, hey, I know you're there,
Speaker 2: like can you show yourself? And they're there, and then
Speaker 2: the little I started plopping around my canoe and I
Speaker 2: sat there for fifteen minutes trying to coax them to
Speaker 2: show themselves, like can't you guys show yourself to me?
Speaker 2: Like I know you're there, I can feel you nothing.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, you know, what the hell with you,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna paddle up the river and I'll just go
Speaker 2: up there. I'll come back up you see if you're
Speaker 2: still there. I always sound was crazy, but I just
Speaker 2: I got bored. I'm like, Okay, if you guys are
Speaker 2: gonna do this, I'm leaving. And so then I paddled
Speaker 2: up the lake, up the river and I went pretty far,
Speaker 2: and then I came back and I kind of felt
Speaker 2: them a bit, and then I got back to the
Speaker 2: same spot and I didn't feel them there anymore. But
Speaker 2: on the other side, I felt something and then something
Speaker 2: started moving and it's where the bull rushes meet the land,
Speaker 2: and it was so big. It was the sound of
Speaker 2: a moose. I'm like, it's got to be a moose.
Speaker 2: You know this is I'm holy crap, there's a moose.
Speaker 2: I get away because I don't want a moose charge
Speaker 2: of me down. All of a sudden, big rocks started
Speaker 2: plopping around my canoe in the water, PLoP PLoP, PLoP,
Speaker 2: and I thought, he's one of those lands in my canoe.
Speaker 2: It's going to damage it. So I paddled away a
Speaker 2: bit and I'm looking. I saw a bit of and
Speaker 2: I thought, yep, I think it's a moose, which is
Speaker 2: very rare for this area. I'm like, wow, I can't
Speaker 2: wait till I tell my uncle there's a moose down here,
Speaker 2: and so you know, I just I don't know why.
Speaker 2: My brain flipped too, like I felt this weird thing
Speaker 2: and now this big thing's moving in the bulrushes. I'm
Speaker 2: my mindset, it's a moose, right, so, but there's not
Speaker 2: really any moose. I don't think people see mooses in
Speaker 2: this area too much. So I mean the invisibility, the
Speaker 2: sense of picking them up. I was feeling that all
Speaker 2: the time. I could feel them. And so one time
Speaker 2: I was in my rowboat and I went down to
Speaker 2: the end of the lake and I'm suntanning. I went
Speaker 2: for a swim. I anchored the boat at the mouth
Speaker 2: of the river and I'm just suntann just enjoying the sun.
Speaker 2: And before I could even think, I jumped up and
Speaker 2: turned and stared at a bush on the shore. It
Speaker 2: wasn't too close to the shore. It was halfway up
Speaker 2: this steep hill and this bush. I looked at it
Speaker 2: and it starts shaking, and I have this internal dialogue like,
Speaker 2: what the hell am I doing? Why did I just
Speaker 2: do this? Why did I jump up? And it was
Speaker 2: like a survival instinct, and I felt this intrusive feeling,
Speaker 2: and I guess it was whatever it was probing me,
Speaker 2: it was it was probably probing my thoughts. And that
Speaker 2: feels like an invasion. It feels like I felt in danger.
Speaker 2: And I thought, why would I feel in danger. I'm
Speaker 2: in the middle lake. I I'm far from it unless
Speaker 2: it's a guy with a rifle and a scope. And
Speaker 2: so I thought that. I thought, geez, you know, and
Speaker 2: I thought, no, that's ridiculous. I said, what the hell,
Speaker 2: I'm going to paddle over there and see what's going on.
Speaker 2: And so I roll over and I'm looking up the
Speaker 2: steep hill at this bush and I could see something
Speaker 2: behind it, but I couldn't see too well. And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this it took off, and it sounded
Speaker 2: like something big taken off. And I'm looking. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: where'd it go? Like why didn't I see it? So
Speaker 2: I pushed off from the shore to get a better angle,
Speaker 2: couldn't see it. And I'm like, I guess I just
Speaker 2: didn't see it, but I should have. And I guess
Speaker 2: I didn't think at the time it was invisible, but
Speaker 2: because it really didn't have any cover. It's just like
Speaker 2: tall grass and some bushes, and so, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean it makes you feel creepy when they're when they're
Speaker 2: probing you, it can make you feel terrified. And people
Speaker 2: go out into the woods at night and they're getting
Speaker 2: their thoughts scanned by them, they'll feel creeped out and terrified,
Speaker 2: like we got to get out of here. But it's
Speaker 2: just that if you're if your psyche is being sort
Speaker 2: of probed, it feels like an intrusion and it can
Speaker 2: feel scary. So but you know, what I've learned from
Speaker 2: the BC encounters is that they're they're not scary, and
Speaker 2: so getting back to scary, going back to the Lake
Speaker 2: Shoeshop encounters with it was a pretty profound event. So
Speaker 2: we were we were up on the roof looking at
Speaker 2: the stars, and all of a sudden I hear all
Speaker 2: the rowdy teams, same kind of rowdy teams sound as
Speaker 2: the Sasquatches at Widge and Creek up on the mountain,
Speaker 2: and they're there. They go down from the top and
Speaker 2: then they're going along from left to right on the
Speaker 2: on the on the mountains and across from me, and
Speaker 2: so my whole group's like, wow, is it they having
Speaker 2: a party up there? I'm like, yeah, there's nothing up there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like people would be partying up there.
Speaker 2: And then they were moving along and I'm like, and
Speaker 2: they don't have flashlights. They're moving through the forest pretty quick,
Speaker 2: but I should see flashlights, and so I'm thinking to
Speaker 2: my group it's Sasquatches, his team Sasquatch. Of course half
Speaker 2: my group don't know what that is, so I'm trying
Speaker 2: to explain to them. And then they went quiet, and
Speaker 2: about five minutes later, pa boom, A shotgun goes off
Speaker 2: up there, and then I see a flashlight and I
Speaker 2: could see the guy wiggling his flashlight around walking and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell like? And then another flashlight
Speaker 2: turned on about fifty yards below him, and then another
Speaker 2: one below him, and then they're walking along the side
Speaker 2: and I got my binocular there because I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are those guys doing? And all of a sudden, pa boom,
Speaker 2: were guns pa boom, and then rapid fire like they
Speaker 2: saw something so they're trying to hit it. Boom boom boom,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, my guests are getting freaked out and nervous.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are they doing up there? Are they
Speaker 2: allowed to do that? I'm like, no, that's that's wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on up there, Like, are
Speaker 2: they trying to shoot those kids we just heard? And
Speaker 2: the thing is, if if they were shooting at humans,
Speaker 2: this is this is a lake, it's not there's people
Speaker 2: on the lake, there's boats and people camping. If you're
Speaker 2: shooting at humans, the humans would be like, how call
Speaker 2: the police. They're trying to kill us, you know, like
Speaker 2: humans would probably be yelling out ha, you know, screaming.
Speaker 2: There was no noise coming. There was just the guns,
Speaker 2: and so I had my binoculars and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see if they're in their flash light beams, and I
Speaker 2: did see something flash in their beat, in their flash
Speaker 2: light beam. And when that happened, bam, bam, bam, rapid
Speaker 2: fire from one of the guys, and then another guy
Speaker 2: he was firing at something else, and another guy was
Speaker 2: firing at something else. I'm like, this is like, this
Speaker 2: is wrong. They shot. They shot over twenty shots, and
Speaker 2: finally somebody on a boat on the other part of
Speaker 2: the lake was honking, and then I could hear somebody
Speaker 2: else yelling like what are you doing up there? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wouldn't be yelling at those guys they could.
Speaker 2: They could I come back every weekend, They could come
Speaker 2: and easily take me out. So I just kept quiet.
Speaker 2: But I went to the rangers cabin the next morning,
Speaker 2: which is just a five minute walk around the point,
Speaker 2: and I told him what happened, and he was very concerned.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, that that's wrong, and so he said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to tell the RCMP. And so
Speaker 2: the next weekend I I saw him and I said,
Speaker 2: what's happening. He goes, it's an open investigation the RCMP.
Speaker 2: I had to go up there with them to determine
Speaker 2: if people are night hunting, like hunting animals at night
Speaker 2: with flashlights, getting their light, their eyes and the light
Speaker 2: and shooting them to legal So he was looking at
Speaker 2: the track. He had to go up to look at
Speaker 2: the tracks. He goes, you're right, we found twenty eight
Speaker 2: gun shells and it was a pretty disturbed. The RCMP
Speaker 2: were pretty disturbed by it. And I said, I bet
Speaker 2: you the people they were they were shooting were in
Speaker 2: bare feet. And he looked at me like like he
Speaker 2: was shocked, and he almost said how did you know?
Speaker 2: But he went, how did you Why would you say that?
Speaker 2: I go because the things that they were shooting at
Speaker 2: were like young sauce juvenile sasquatches. And he's like, there's
Speaker 2: no such thing as sasquatch. Like rangers, you know, they
Speaker 2: don't want to admit that. And I go, see, you
Speaker 2: can say whatever you want, but there is. And you
Speaker 2: can talk to the ranger that worked at Ridge and
Speaker 2: Creek because I showed him a photo like, I guarantee
Speaker 2: you they're real, and they sounded like the ones I
Speaker 2: had at Widget Creek and like, you know, there's you
Speaker 2: didn't find any dead bodies, but you found barefoot footprints.
Speaker 2: I know you did. And so he was like, well,
Speaker 2: it's an open investigation and they're they're going to try
Speaker 2: and get to the bottom of it. And so, I mean,
Speaker 2: at the same time, there was this there was this
Speaker 2: fugitive living in the mountains and he had escaped a
Speaker 2: correctional facility because he felt hitmen were after him in
Speaker 2: relation to the Brexit gold scandal. He was a private
Speaker 2: investigator and he was there's a book about him called
Speaker 2: The Bushman of Shueschwop and I think his name was
Speaker 2: John Bromstrom or something. And so he was actively hiding
Speaker 2: out when I was there and so you know the RCNP,
Speaker 2: we're actively looking for him, but this was something else,
Speaker 2: and it was pretty disturbing. So who are these guys
Speaker 2: that are trying to hunt sasquatch and shoot them? Right?
Speaker 2: That was pretty disturbing. Now another night, we're on the
Speaker 2: on the roof Blist and we're just sitting there and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, from that same mountain, this yell
Speaker 2: was so massive, like a tarzan yell, but I mean
Speaker 2: the voice, the cavity, he must have been huge. And
Speaker 2: he yelled for a long time. And then suddenly down
Speaker 2: by blind Day Marina, which is at the other end
Speaker 2: of the lake where my marina is, we heard another one. Whah,
Speaker 2: you answer back, And then we heard a female up
Speaker 2: on Adam's Lake she went oh. And then they did
Speaker 2: this a few more times. In my group are like,
Speaker 2: are they native people doing that? Or indigenous people? I'm
Speaker 2: like eh. And one guy he was like a sound
Speaker 2: engineer or something, and he's like, you'd need like the acoustics,
Speaker 2: the chest. You would have to have a massive chest
Speaker 2: to yell like that. But it did sound like a
Speaker 2: man's voice. But no man can have a powerful voice
Speaker 2: like that. And so that was exciting, and those are
Speaker 2: those are the sort of smaller events, and then I'll
Speaker 2: just flip into the smaller events. At Widgeon Creek where
Speaker 2: there was other things happening, there was a lot happening.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that happened on a busy
Speaker 2: day was I had a bag of dry cranberries. We
Speaker 2: were in the first waterfall. It was a sunny day.
Speaker 2: There's some people swimming just below the falls, and we
Speaker 2: were about to go. I said, okay, we got to
Speaker 2: get hiking. And I looked and I saw this bulk
Speaker 2: bag of dried cranberry sitting on a log by itself,
Speaker 2: and I thought, jeeze, I better get that. And everybody's
Speaker 2: funneling out, and this Japanese girl asked if I could
Speaker 2: help her with her backpack. I just spent like maybe
Speaker 2: four seconds helping her with their strap and I looked
Speaker 2: and the bag's gone. I'm like, oh, I look and
Speaker 2: I don't see it in anybody's hands, Like where did
Speaker 2: the bag go? And I go, hey, did anybody grab
Speaker 2: the cranberries? And nobody knew what I was talking about,
Speaker 2: but a Swiss girl said, oh, I'm really sorry I
Speaker 2: left them there. I said, well, they were just here.
Speaker 2: I mean I just saw them. But and they were
Speaker 2: there and now they're not. And she goes, look, here's
Speaker 2: a footprint in the moss. Somebody might have taken them.
Speaker 2: I said, well, somebody had taken them, we would they
Speaker 2: would have been in our space, we would have seen them.
Speaker 2: But it was a fresh footprint, and it was one
Speaker 2: of the weird footprints. So she's looking for it. I'm
Speaker 2: looking for it now. My group's hiking and so I look,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I should find it spilled somewhere like a
Speaker 2: bird wouldn't fly away with it. I couldn't find one cranber.
Speaker 2: I couldn't find any trace of it. So I said,
Speaker 2: I got to have to give up. That's it. I
Speaker 2: just gonna have to give up. So I left, and
Speaker 2: then the next day I'm bringing another tour in and
Speaker 2: I'm telling them, hey, I lost the bag of cranberries here.
Speaker 2: So if you're putting your food down, you know there's
Speaker 2: a little critter that might walk off with it, so
Speaker 2: just keep an eye out. And I get into the
Speaker 2: falls and I go to point to this German Man
Speaker 2: where I left it, and what do I see is
Speaker 2: a pile of freshly picked cranberries from the ground up
Speaker 2: to the top of the log. You could fit a
Speaker 2: basketball in there. It was so many cranberries. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: he goes, there's your cranberries. They just they spilled over,
Speaker 2: like no, And I showed my new bag of bulk
Speaker 2: dried cranberries. I'm like, these, this is what went missing
Speaker 2: us today. These are freshly picked, you know. And so
Speaker 2: everybody nobody really was understanding the scope of it, but me, really,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what kind of an animal would steal my
Speaker 2: cranberries and then replace them with fresh ones? Like this
Speaker 2: is bizarre, Like I was trying to imagine what animal
Speaker 2: would do this. So everybody's like, can we equals I'm
Speaker 2: like yeah, but you know, we better wash them in
Speaker 2: the river because I don't know if a squirrel or
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of animals, but maybe if
Speaker 2: it carried it in its mouth, we don't want to
Speaker 2: we have to wash them. So there were so many.
Speaker 2: Everybody brought cranberries home with them and we were eating them,
Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, guys, if this animal
Speaker 2: is smart enough to do a trade like this, maybe
Speaker 2: it's smart enough to know that word. You know that
Speaker 2: we're thanking them, so why don't we thank this mysterious
Speaker 2: animal for giving us cranberry? So everybody held up cranberrys
Speaker 2: and yelled out thank you, and far off in the woods,
Speaker 2: I heard all this rustling, and I just, you know,
Speaker 2: is that an animal. I didn't know if it was
Speaker 2: related to our thank you. I thought maybe we just
Speaker 2: disturbed an animal by yelling thank you. But now I
Speaker 2: think of it, and I'm thinking it was the sasquatch
Speaker 2: was recognizing we were we were thanking him for the cranberries.
Speaker 2: But at the time, I was just like, I was
Speaker 2: so confused. I'm like, I don't know what I told
Speaker 2: the ranger about it. I'm like, is there an animal
Speaker 2: that would do that? And he's like, you're asking me
Speaker 2: so many strange questions. I'm like, it's because I'm having
Speaker 2: so many strange things happen. And so it was it
Speaker 2: was just, you know, amazing to see this kind of exchange.
Speaker 2: But then when I got told it's sasquatch, that's when
Speaker 2: I had my brain had to go back over all
Speaker 2: those things. And so this is a special moment. When
Speaker 2: I was told, and it was after we showed the
Speaker 2: range of the photograph. The Alex, the Swiss guy that
Speaker 2: was really investigating and figuring it out. He was starting
Speaker 2: to call them the Sascat people, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: think they're called Sasquat, Sasqet, that's what the tribal people
Speaker 2: originally called them. And so he because he was reading
Speaker 2: up on it and he was really starting to figure
Speaker 2: it out, and so he came on a tour and
Speaker 2: he pointed out He's like, look at that branch up there,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what branch? There's a million up there.
Speaker 2: He goes, no, that one, and I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to go follow his finger. It was a
Speaker 2: branch that was woven like sewing in and out up
Speaker 2: and down over his branches. I'm like, whoa, that is weird.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, how did you even notice that? And
Speaker 2: he's like, I just have a good eye for detail
Speaker 2: and I So we're trying to figure out if it
Speaker 2: could happen naturally, and it's like, there's no way that
Speaker 2: could happen naturally. But it's fourteen feet up, so how
Speaker 2: would you even get up there to do that? And
Speaker 2: so it was like, yeah, that that is weird. And
Speaker 2: so you know, he noticed that, and then further on
Speaker 2: the trail, he's like, John, look at this. And it
Speaker 2: was such a small thing, but strange. And so there
Speaker 2: was a maple leaf that was kind of sticking out
Speaker 2: into the trail at face level, and everybody sort of
Speaker 2: just pushing it out of the way, but he studied it.
Speaker 2: It was attached to another branch that was very wiry,
Speaker 2: and the branch was coiled around another branch like a
Speaker 2: tight spring, and it was it was just rigged up
Speaker 2: that way, and somehow this coiled branch was staying gripped
Speaker 2: and tight on this branch. And he's like, do you
Speaker 2: think an insect did this? This is bizarre. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how did you even notice that? And once again he
Speaker 2: was noticing all these little intricate things. And I think
Speaker 2: they knew his ability because they showed me they knew
Speaker 2: the Origammy artist, and they showed me they knew what
Speaker 2: her favorite animal was by leaving her that specialized gift
Speaker 2: flower gift. And so I thought, they probably know this
Speaker 2: guy's like a security engineer officer for analysts for summit
Speaker 2: meetings G seven meetings. They probably know his great ability
Speaker 2: to notice things. And they're rigging them up for him,
Speaker 2: I think, because I would never notice this stuff. And
Speaker 2: it's funny because when I read son bow True Brothers
Speaker 2: books Sasquatch Messages to Humanities, it meant they mentioned that
Speaker 2: Sasquatch mentioned that they really want to talk to political
Speaker 2: leaders or anybody that's connected to political leaders. But they'll
Speaker 2: talk to anybody, but they wanted to talk to political
Speaker 2: leaders to influence him to change the way things are
Speaker 2: happening with our destruction of the environment. And so you know,
Speaker 2: they probably saw him connected to politicians because he was.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, I've talked to all the politicians, all
Speaker 2: the world politicians because they have to have meetings about
Speaker 2: the security detail and things like that, and so maybe
Speaker 2: they they gave him a lot of special encounters too.
Speaker 2: He went up there and rented a car by himself
Speaker 2: and explored, and they left them gifts when he was
Speaker 2: there by himself. And so when he was on he
Speaker 2: came on a whole bunch of my houseboat trips because
Speaker 2: I told him they're visiting me there too, and so
Speaker 2: he had one encounter he was kind of drowned. He
Speaker 2: was at two o'clock in the morning and he says,
Speaker 2: we don't have barbecues in Switzerland, which I'm like, you don't.
Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe. And he loved the
Speaker 2: barbecue solee. He cooked a cheeseburger at like two in
Speaker 2: the morning, and I woke up the next morning and
Speaker 2: I could hear him talking to two other Swiss girls.
Speaker 2: They're talking in German, and so I wake up. I'm like,
Speaker 2: good morning, and somebody had left a big log on
Speaker 2: our beach that we could use as a table or
Speaker 2: a chair. It was about eighty pounds and it was
Speaker 2: cut nice and flat. So he had put a cheese
Speaker 2: cutting board on it. And I brought these two giant
Speaker 2: bricks of cheese on these tours, and so he had
Speaker 2: put one of the cheese on there, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: good morning. He's like, John, I owe you an apology.
Speaker 2: I love Our friends came by and took the cheese,
Speaker 2: and he was trying to tell these girls about the
Speaker 2: Sasquatch and they weren't believing them. And so I came
Speaker 2: down and on the cheese cutting board were three rocks,
Speaker 2: the flowers and the grass, and he goes, but I'm
Speaker 2: really concerned, like there was this really are up cutting
Speaker 2: knife here, and where's the plastic to the cheese? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm worried about this knife, that they might hurt themselves
Speaker 2: or something, and I'm like, I don't think they'll hurt themselves.
Speaker 2: They're pretty smart. I don't I wouldn't worry about it,
Speaker 2: but we'll look around. So for about ten minutes we
Speaker 2: looked around the area trying to find I was trying
Speaker 2: to find Prince and I was trying to find the
Speaker 2: knife and the plastic for the cheese. And suddenly one
Speaker 2: of the girls says, hey, there's something sticking out from
Speaker 2: under the log, and so, you know, he lifts the
Speaker 2: log up and there's the plastic to the cheese, and
Speaker 2: then dead center there's the knife laying flat. Not only flat,
Speaker 2: but it was pressed down into the earth. And Alex
Speaker 2: freaked out because he was trying to convince these girls
Speaker 2: it's not a bear, it's not an animal. And he's like,
Speaker 2: you see, what kind of an animal would take such
Speaker 2: precautions with a knife. It was he put it under
Speaker 2: the log. And so these girls are asking John is
Speaker 2: this true? Is he telling us the truth? They are
Speaker 2: these creatures real? And I'm like yes, and they're like no, really,
Speaker 2: and I go, yes, I'm not lying. They are real.
Speaker 2: They're coming and visiting every weekend. And so these girls
Speaker 2: started freaking out because they're realizing wow, you know. And
Speaker 2: so on another tour, he came because he was obsessed.
Speaker 2: He just wanted to keep coming back from my barbecue chicken.
Speaker 2: And so he I cooked the chicken that usually around
Speaker 2: eleven thirty at night on a Saturday, and he had
Speaker 2: two heaping platefuls and he was pretty drunk. He had
Speaker 2: a big rum and coke gone, and he did a
Speaker 2: tequila shot with somebody and then he sat in the
Speaker 2: chair and he had piled a third plate of food.
Speaker 2: He had like four pieces of chicken. It was just
Speaker 2: a mountain of food and it was on the table
Speaker 2: and it looked like like he was starting to fall asleep.
Speaker 2: And I said Alex, like, I'm going to bed. Do
Speaker 2: you want me to do you want me to bring
Speaker 2: in your plate of food? Are you gonna have it
Speaker 2: for breakfast? And he's like no, no, I'm going to
Speaker 2: eat that. I'm going to eat that. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: good night. And so I woke up to hearing chewing sounds,
Speaker 2: you know, and I thought, oh, Alex is eating his food,
Speaker 2: went back to sleep. So I woke up in the
Speaker 2: morning and I got up and there's Alex still sleeping
Speaker 2: in the chair, but it's tilting like the leaning Tower
Speaker 2: of Pisa, and his drinks about the spillet on his crotch,
Speaker 2: and the right beside him is an old root structure,
Speaker 2: all protruding sharp objects, and I think if he falls over,
Speaker 2: his head's gonna land on that. So I ran down
Speaker 2: and I secured the chair, got his drink, and then
Speaker 2: woke him up and he's like whoa, I go. I
Speaker 2: figured I better catch you before you fall on that thing.
Speaker 2: He's like oh. The first thing he thinks is oh,
Speaker 2: my chicken. And I go, well, didn't I heard you
Speaker 2: eating it? Didn't you eat it last night? And he's
Speaker 2: like no. I go over to his plate and I'm going, oh,
Speaker 2: it's full of free rocks, flowers and grass, and I go, Alex,
Speaker 2: your buddies. And then he was obsessed with trying to
Speaker 2: see these guys. I go, Alex, you were sleeping in
Speaker 2: the chair. They came out and ate your food. I'm
Speaker 2: laughing and he's like, oh wow. So he went back
Speaker 2: to his chair to grab his sunglass. It was really sunny,
Speaker 2: and I saw him grab something else, and so he
Speaker 2: picked up this thing and it was it was a
Speaker 2: doll of a reindeer made out of like really clear
Speaker 2: being straw or hey, and it was really tightly bundled
Speaker 2: and had some weight to it. And I had these
Speaker 2: little wooden twig sticking out of the head like antlers.
Speaker 2: And he's like, what's this? Is this yours? Is this
Speaker 2: from the boat? Like I've never seen that before? And
Speaker 2: he's like, did somebody make this? Like he's trying to
Speaker 2: make some I don't know where that came from. So
Speaker 2: then he went into the boat and he asked everybody, Hey,
Speaker 2: does anybody recognizes anybody? And everybody's like, nobody knows what
Speaker 2: it is. And we're looking at and I go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's the saw squat. So I run over
Speaker 2: to his chair and I find these impressions in the
Speaker 2: pebble beach, Like it's not good for leaving footprints, but
Speaker 2: you can leave a deep impression. And I see these
Speaker 2: giant prints. They're like, I don't know, they're like three
Speaker 2: feet apart and they're I don't know, a SI seventeen
Speaker 2: or eighteen, I would guess, And I so it was
Speaker 2: probably one of the big guys, and I go, I'm
Speaker 2: laughing him. I go, guys, stood right next to you
Speaker 2: while you're pasted out and put this thing under your
Speaker 2: chair and you didn't even wake up. Now, the chief
Speaker 2: told me they can make sure that you stay asleep,
Speaker 2: or they can put you to sleep. I don't think
Speaker 2: they would have ever had to do that to me,
Speaker 2: because I was always pretty tired. And I would wake
Speaker 2: up and hearing them eat, and they're like, oh, they're here,
Speaker 2: they're eating, and then I doze back off to sleep.
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds ridiculous, but that's how used
Speaker 2: to them I got. And sometimes I would wake up
Speaker 2: and I would just hear them leaving, or i'd hear
Speaker 2: them just arriving. But sometimes they didn't stay awake for
Speaker 2: their whole visit. I was just so tired because I
Speaker 2: was a pretty busy guy with running that company with
Speaker 2: my cousin and all the busyness. But so I said
Speaker 2: to him, he said, well, I should give this to you.
Speaker 2: It's your boat tour. And I'm like, no way, man,
Speaker 2: they looked it under you. That's a gift for you.
Speaker 2: That's not for me. It's for you, and he goes,
Speaker 2: it's funny because you know, there's a significance to reindeers
Speaker 2: in my family. Now, either in Switzerland his family in
Speaker 2: a reindeer farm, or he had reindeer in the coat
Speaker 2: of arms, I can't remember. There was a connection to
Speaker 2: reindeers in his family. And I said, well, there you go.
Speaker 2: There's confirmation right there. You found the connection, just like
Speaker 2: the rig any artists who got her little gift. They
Speaker 2: He goes, but look at this straw. Where would they
Speaker 2: get this straw from. There's no farms around. I'm like,
Speaker 2: and he's like, look at how clean it is. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: who knows where they got it from? Right, it could
Speaker 2: be marsh grass, but I mean it was so well made,
Speaker 2: and it was a reindeer, and I thought, wow, this
Speaker 2: is just just incredible. And you know, when they show
Speaker 2: these types of interactions, you just want more. You just
Speaker 2: want to know, you know, what's going on with these people.
Speaker 2: I need to know more. The Chief inform me a lot,
Speaker 2: but I still don't know everything. I can just think
Speaker 2: to them and you know, take it all in that way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess. I mean, there's there's more rolling
Speaker 2: around him. Oh, There's one more amazing event that happened
Speaker 2: on widge And Creek I'd like to bring up. You know,
Speaker 2: the rocks were lying down the trail. That happened a
Speaker 2: few times, and I didn't know what was doing it.
Speaker 2: And so then one time I was coming down and
Speaker 2: I see the ranger with two park workers and they're
Speaker 2: staring at this enormous boulder on the trail and it's
Speaker 2: about the size of the kitchen stove. And I'm looking
Speaker 2: at them like, what are you guys doing with this rock?
Speaker 2: And they're like, we're trying to figure out how it
Speaker 2: got here, and I'm like, I'm like, and the ranger
Speaker 2: goes it's like it got lowered from the sky and
Speaker 2: it's like pretty flat. Training I'm like, well, it's not
Speaker 2: as if it rolled rolled down into the ear. It's
Speaker 2: like there's no there's no hills to for it to roll,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a pyramidal type of shape like it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: One of the workers is like, well, I've seen rocks
Speaker 2: that roll down mountains and they'd leave a trail there
Speaker 2: squashed plant matter on it. Like this thing's pristine. It's
Speaker 2: like there's no tracks around it. So we're all looking
Speaker 2: at it, going what the hell, And then the one
Speaker 2: of the park workers says, I think we should get
Speaker 2: a jackhammer and break into the small pieces, because they
Speaker 2: needed to get their their vehicle past it and they couldn't.
Speaker 2: So so then the rangers like, no, I don't like
Speaker 2: that jackcat right, idea, we'll figure it out. So then
Speaker 2: the next day I'm back there and they've got this
Speaker 2: I think it was a bobcat with like tank treads
Speaker 2: on it, and they had all these yellow strappings, thick
Speaker 2: canvas strappings they wrapped around it. They were tugging it
Speaker 2: inch by inch with this bobcat until they could get
Speaker 2: the bobcat on the other side of it and then
Speaker 2: push it inch by inch towards the side of the trail.
Speaker 2: And this was just up from the berry patch where
Speaker 2: many of us would look down when we heard the monkeys.
Speaker 2: We would look down from the road vantage point down
Speaker 2: into the area behind the berry patch to see if
Speaker 2: we could find anything back where we heard them. So
Speaker 2: this is where this rock was. And so they were
Speaker 2: able to shove it off the edge, and we were
Speaker 2: expecting it to roll down this hill, but it just
Speaker 2: sank into the earth and the one guy's like, it's
Speaker 2: too heavy to roll, and the other guys like, well,
Speaker 2: that's not going anywhere. And I said, are you sure
Speaker 2: about that? And he goes, why you think it's going
Speaker 2: to roll? And I said, well, no, it's somehow got
Speaker 2: in the middle of the trail. So maybe like how
Speaker 2: did he get in the trail? And he's like, that's
Speaker 2: the one thing we don't know. We can't figure out
Speaker 2: how it got in the middle of the trail. And
Speaker 2: you know, so when the day that I was told
Speaker 2: it was Sasquatch, I got back into the Canoe rental
Speaker 2: shack and I was talking to Charlie, who ran the
Speaker 2: rental shack, and I was buying something off of him,
Speaker 2: and he said, hey, I was talking to a couple
Speaker 2: of Catsy Nation guys. You know, this is after the
Speaker 2: ranger had seen the photos, so there was a buzz
Speaker 2: the Catsy Nation people were talking about it. He said,
Speaker 2: they know what all that encounters, all everything that's happening
Speaker 2: over there. They know I know what it is. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what is it? And I put my hand out as
Speaker 2: he dropped the change in my hand that was over
Speaker 2: the cash register box. As he dropped the change in
Speaker 2: my hand. He said it's Young Kan Sasquatches and I said,
Speaker 2: Young Kane Sasquatches. That's great, and he's like, no, I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I'm like oh, and and he's like, no, I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I agree with him. That's I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 2: And I'm like oh, and I like, I really, it's
Speaker 2: like a brick hit me in my head. I turned
Speaker 2: around and I had there was a Korean girl from
Speaker 2: my group behind me. She had this giant Mister Big
Speaker 2: chocolate bar in her hand and she's waiting to buy it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, young teen Sasquatches. I just like
Speaker 2: a brick hit me in the head. And I'm like whoa.
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, yeah, isn't that cool. I go, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to process this. I'm like, now all
Speaker 2: these experiences that I had were flooding in, like oh okay,
Speaker 2: I'm starting to match it all up. And he's like
Speaker 2: isn't that cool? Like that's what it is, these catcination
Speaker 2: people know. And I said, well, then I guess no
Speaker 2: monkeys need rescuing and he's like, nope, no monkeys need
Speaker 2: rescuing because I thought monkeys need rescuing, right, And I
Speaker 2: saw him like whoa, And so I kind of walk
Speaker 2: away in a daze. And as I'm walking away, I
Speaker 2: hear this Korean girl asking him what's sasage? What sausage?
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, it's saw squash. So he's trying
Speaker 2: to teach her because he knew all these language students
Speaker 2: didn't speak well. So he's like saw squatch and she's
Speaker 2: like sausatch and he's like saw squatch. And so I
Speaker 2: pushed open a screen door and left at that point,
Speaker 2: and I went to go strap down my canoes to
Speaker 2: the trailer, and I'm like, I better pay attention to
Speaker 2: what I'm doing here, because like this is really getting
Speaker 2: me in the head. And so just a minute goes
Speaker 2: by and it comes flying out of a shack and
Speaker 2: he comes running over. Did you see the big airy guy?
Speaker 2: And I go, what are you talking about? She just
Speaker 2: I told her what a sauce squat it was, and
Speaker 2: she said she saw one over there. I'm like what,
Speaker 2: And so I asked the girl, I'm I'm like, what
Speaker 2: did you see? And so she's composing herself because their
Speaker 2: English is very bad. And she's like, I see really
Speaker 2: really big hairyman, big muscles, hair like dog and h
Speaker 2: and no shirt. And so she said no shirt. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: some guy's over there without a shirt and she's like
Speaker 2: that she's describing me sasquatch. I go, well, are you
Speaker 2: sure it wasn't a bear and she goes, no, have
Speaker 2: man's face. She points at her face man face, man's
Speaker 2: face And I go okay, and you say, is he's Harry?
Speaker 2: Did he have a beard? And she goes, what is beard?
Speaker 2: And I described the beard and she goes, yeah, whole face,
Speaker 2: hair like dog. And I go whole face. And Charlie's like,
Speaker 2: that's a saucequatch, like whole space and like where was it?
Speaker 2: And it was in the in the marsh and I said, well,
Speaker 2: was it when we were going in there? Coming out?
Speaker 2: She goes, when we go in, very close to the
Speaker 2: picnic area, And I said, well, was he close to
Speaker 2: the water? And so I backed up and I said
Speaker 2: this farest he was about fifteen feet away from us.
Speaker 2: And I said did he have any pants on? And
Speaker 2: she goes, he was in the tall grass. I only
Speaker 2: saw from the stomach up. And then She's like, he
Speaker 2: had really big muscles. I go like, was he like me?
Speaker 2: She goes, oh, no, you small. He very big, and
Speaker 2: so so I'm like, okay, so what was he doing?
Speaker 2: And she goes, we were looking into each other's eyes.
Speaker 2: He had blue eyes, and it's like, okay, at blue
Speaker 2: eyed Sasquatch. And I said, well, did he wave? She's
Speaker 2: like no, I go did anybody else see him? She's like,
Speaker 2: I don't think so I think she was the last
Speaker 2: person in the last canoe, And so I said, well
Speaker 2: what she goes. We went around the corner and I
Speaker 2: couldn't see him anymore. And I thought the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm being told at sasquatches, and now I have a
Speaker 2: student telling me immediately after that she saw one. So
Speaker 2: I was just like, whoa, this is blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: So I was probably the most excited guy in the van.
Speaker 2: Every time we were going out there, I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I wonder what's going to happen. And
Speaker 2: you know, half the people I can't even tell about
Speaker 2: sas squats because they don't it's too difficult to tell them.
Speaker 2: And so then when I was I had this one
Speaker 2: guy he came up to me, and he heard about
Speaker 2: the Sasquatch and he came up in the schools and
Speaker 2: he's like, there's sasquatch there. Everybody saw there's sasquatch. I
Speaker 2: gotta see them. I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, sign on up.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you'll get flowers. You'll probably hear them. And
Speaker 2: so he's like, there's one problem. I'm terrified of being
Speaker 2: on boats. I don't even want to be on a dock.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, we have to boat over there,
Speaker 2: you know, and he goes, I was studying a map
Speaker 2: of the area. Can hike in a trail. I go,
Speaker 2: That trail's underwater now, it's disintegrated, it's no longer active.
Speaker 2: And he said, well, there's another trail. I go, that's
Speaker 2: that's the government trail. You're not allowed to go there.
Speaker 2: There's cameras, there's rangers. If they catch you, you'll get
Speaker 2: fined and then you'll turn you around. So that that's
Speaker 2: not going to work. And he's like, oh, I gotta
Speaker 2: go there. I go, well, you're gonna have to go
Speaker 2: by boat, and he's like I can't. So he left
Speaker 2: and then he came back twenty minutes later and he
Speaker 2: just slaps some money down. He's like, I'm going, and
Speaker 2: he's like determined. I'm like, well, wait a second, Like,
Speaker 2: I can't take you if you're like if you have
Speaker 2: a panic, or if you can't if you decide you
Speaker 2: can't go on the boat, I have to leave you
Speaker 2: for the whole day at the van in the parking lot,
Speaker 2: you know, but you can spend time with Charlie and
Speaker 2: maybe there's sasquatch on that side too, maybe you can
Speaker 2: explore there. And he's like, no, no, I'm going. I'm going.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. I'm going to break through
Speaker 2: my fear. I'm like, okay. I told my cousin about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, should I bring this guy? And he's like, well,
Speaker 2: just leave him at the van and leave him food
Speaker 2: and drinks if he gets terrified. So when I picked
Speaker 2: up the group, it was all very tiny girls, Japanese
Speaker 2: Korean girls, and then this this guy's like six foot four,
Speaker 2: and so we're driving there and he's telling these girls
Speaker 2: about his phobia, like he's terrified of the water and boats,
Speaker 2: and they're all supportive. They're like, oh, you'll be okay.
Speaker 2: And so we get there and I get all the
Speaker 2: girls in the canoes, and I getting them to practice
Speaker 2: figure eights and circles just along the shore. Get used
Speaker 2: to steering, and so I get him in the last
Speaker 2: The canoe is almost basically at the boat ramped like
Speaker 2: it's touching the ground, and he's like, I think I
Speaker 2: want to steer it. So he gets to the back
Speaker 2: he goes, I'll steer. I'm like, okay, this is going well.
Speaker 2: He's in the boat and the pier is like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's like sixty yards long. And so I
Speaker 2: started to pull the boat. I pulled it about five
Speaker 2: feet and he panicked. He almost threw the girl in
Speaker 2: the middle bench into the water. I mean he really
Speaker 2: man handled her and jumped out on the dock and
Speaker 2: he was hyperventilating, and I'm like, okay, this is not
Speaker 2: going to happen. And I said, look, you know, just
Speaker 2: take some breast, take some breast, get some water. Okay,
Speaker 2: drink drink some water. So he's drinking. I go, okay,
Speaker 2: like it looks like you're gonna have to spend the
Speaker 2: day in the van, and you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: can't have you panicking like that. And he apologized to
Speaker 2: the girl, and and so I said you should go
Speaker 2: to the back, and so you know, I said, look,
Speaker 2: get on the middle bench there and and put your
Speaker 2: hands on the edges of the canoes and just hold
Speaker 2: them tight. You don't have to paddle, just try it out.
Speaker 2: So I had to back up the canoe so it
Speaker 2: was touching the ground, and uh. He got on the
Speaker 2: middle and his knuckles are white, and he's he's testing it.
Speaker 2: I said, well, let's walk down to the end of
Speaker 2: the pier and back just to break in. And he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not walking down there. It's like, well, I mean
Speaker 2: we're going to be in a kinde of going farther
Speaker 2: than that, so you're going to have to just mentally prepare.
Speaker 2: And so I think, what do you think you feel
Speaker 2: pretty stable? Just grip the sides and just stay like that.
Speaker 2: Do you think he can do it? He's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I didn't give any opportunity. I shove the
Speaker 2: boat in the water. I just push it away and
Speaker 2: I go girls like he was, he could still jump out.
Speaker 2: It's like me deep, I go steer for deep water
Speaker 2: before he jumps out. And he got up. He tried
Speaker 2: to jump out, but then he did, then he had
Speaker 2: to sit back down, and so the rest of the
Speaker 2: girls were already crossing, and so we had to catch
Speaker 2: up to them. So I paddled up next to him
Speaker 2: and he's just freaking out. He's just every muscles walked,
Speaker 2: and I go, hey, how you doing. He goes terrified.
Speaker 2: I go, well, then just stay like that for ten
Speaker 2: minutes and he goes, what do you mean. You go, well,
Speaker 2: just don't panic and tip the boat. He goes, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do that. Don't talk to me, get
Speaker 2: away from me. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to
Speaker 2: leave him alone. So when we got into the creek,
Speaker 2: he relaxed and all the girls clapped. Everybody was celebrating.
Speaker 2: He made this huge accomplishment. And so we got into
Speaker 2: the picnic area and immediately the Sasquatchs were beside us,
Speaker 2: right in the trees, beside us in the picnic area,
Speaker 2: and they just erupted with their rowdy team calls and
Speaker 2: the girls are like, who's that. I thought, like, we're
Speaker 2: the only people here. I go, oh, these guys live here,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to tell the girls, but he's like,
Speaker 2: it's Sasquatch. Is that them? I'm like, that's them, buddy,
Speaker 2: And so he got his flower gift. And then when
Speaker 2: it was time to go back, it was a very
Speaker 2: windy day and there was a bit of tidal current
Speaker 2: because it's a tidal river and it was choppy. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: like we didn't know until we got out of the
Speaker 2: creek and I'm like oh. And so he's like, no,
Speaker 2: take me to the shore. He's panicking because he's seeing
Speaker 2: the rough water. We got him across. He got out
Speaker 2: and he kissed the ground. And then the next time
Speaker 2: I saw him at school, he came out to me
Speaker 2: and he goes, guess what, And I go what. He goes,
Speaker 2: I'm going whitewater wrapping. I'm like, good for you, man,
Speaker 2: you're overcoming your fears. He goes, like, told my dad
Speaker 2: I got on a boat. He was he was so
Speaker 2: proud of me. So it was just amazing, how, you know,
Speaker 2: his obsession that he wanted to go see Sasquatch, he
Speaker 2: had to overcome his immense fear of being on the water.
Speaker 2: Just just a beautiful experience to see somebody break through that,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I mean, many many other encounters,
Speaker 2: but I think I could there's more deed probably put
Speaker 2: in my book, but I think there's more I can say,
Speaker 2: but I thought, you know, maybe I'll leave it to
Speaker 2: you if you want to have any questions.
Speaker 1: For me now, all right, I appreciate you for sharing
Speaker 1: that with me. And the creature that you encountered when
Speaker 1: you were riding your bike. Do you think it was
Speaker 1: a little person or a bigfoot? What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: Ah, you know there's nature spirits, there's all kinds this.
Speaker 2: I think it had to have been a sasquatch because
Speaker 2: people have seen them up there. I feel them, I
Speaker 2: feel that signature in me. I feel that. So I
Speaker 2: think at the time I thought it must be like
Speaker 2: a leprechaun because I didn't I couldn't make sense of
Speaker 2: this invisible entity that I was obviously there. I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 2: I was by myself that I know, like I bush
Speaker 2: whacked up there a lot, and I did find structures
Speaker 2: another time in the winter, a big giant tripod. I
Speaker 2: thought it was an old teepee. So I think it
Speaker 2: was probably sasquatch for sure. Yeah, because they do have
Speaker 2: that invisibility. They do take on whirlwinds. Oh oh, there's
Speaker 2: no there's one amazing encounter, I must say, at widge
Speaker 2: And Creek this is a different type of encounter. I
Speaker 2: got up to the falls and we didn't even of
Speaker 2: our packs off beautiful sunny day, not even a breeze. Suddenly,
Speaker 2: like a vacuum brought in this turbulent wind. Just in
Speaker 2: one second. I looked. All the trees are swaying differently,
Speaker 2: ones going up and down, the one next to it's
Speaker 2: going sideways, and you could feel this staticky electricity in
Speaker 2: the air, and the wind is turbulent. And then the guy,
Speaker 2: there's a guy above me about further up on the falls,
Speaker 2: and he goes, look, there's this fourteen foot tall whirlwind,
Speaker 2: and then another one, and then another one, and they're
Speaker 2: moving and they go down the river, and one crossed
Speaker 2: over a log that was going over the gorge of
Speaker 2: the falls. It's a log that's been wedged in there
Speaker 2: for years. And then it went down into the forest.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at these fourteen foot tall whirlwinds. They're
Speaker 2: kicking up and they're pretty strong, and it's just the
Speaker 2: turbulent wind was everywhere. But then there's these voroses flowing
Speaker 2: around and he's like, look at that, and We're looking
Speaker 2: at these vortices and I'm like, what the hell. And
Speaker 2: this girl's next to me, she's like, what the hell's happening.
Speaker 2: I go, I don't know. And the wind. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the trees. I'm like, look at the trees. They're
Speaker 2: all moving differently. They're not flowing the same, They're all
Speaker 2: like slow motion. It was really weird. And this guy's
Speaker 2: looking up. He goes, something's a hut up above us,
Speaker 2: like I feel something. I think a ship's up there.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking up. I don't see anything. And these
Speaker 2: ravens were circling around a big circle and it's like
Speaker 2: this is so bizarre. And the wind's just swirling and
Speaker 2: swirling and swirling. And then this girl's reaching out in
Speaker 2: front of her. She goes, it feels like there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of people in front of me. And then another
Speaker 2: guy goes, yeah, it feels like people are over here.
Speaker 2: And I started to feel like this whole area was
Speaker 2: filled up with people, and I'm like, what the hell,
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on? All of a sudden, in
Speaker 2: one second, as fast as the wind came in, the
Speaker 2: wind was gone. Just in one second. They didn't gradually leave.
Speaker 2: It was just gone, and this girl. Everybody was standing
Speaker 2: like they had just gone through an earthquake, like you know,
Speaker 2: the ground was unsteady. And this girl looks at me.
Speaker 2: She goes, what the hell just happened? I go, I
Speaker 2: don't know. She goes, has that happened before? I go?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: And so I understand that sasquatches can take on these
Speaker 2: whirlwind sighte of effects. The one that I had at
Speaker 2: Christy Lake was a very lazy one, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: fourteen feet tall. It was maybe maybe six feet tall
Speaker 2: or seven feet tall. But these whirlwinds were very structured
Speaker 2: and they seem to have some control and we're moving.
Speaker 2: So that was a bizarre one I wanted to bring
Speaker 2: up because it's not It's also a time when I
Speaker 2: still wasn't aware of sasquatch, and so it was just
Speaker 2: it was more like the one guy thought that there
Speaker 2: must have been a UFO over us, but it was
Speaker 2: cloaked because we could feel this magnetic energy and it
Speaker 2: did feel bizarre. So that's why it's like sometimes when
Speaker 2: I saw I had the predator experience with the teleportation
Speaker 2: one and then the invisible ones at the German guys
Speaker 2: that were with me and they're like, they're invisible. We
Speaker 2: were kind of thinking they're aliens. And then another time
Speaker 2: when we heard the girls behind the bush whistling and
Speaker 2: stuff that makes impossible sounds with their voices, it's like,
Speaker 2: the one guy said, this reminds me of a Wonder
Speaker 2: Woman episode where they're a we're in the bushes making
Speaker 2: weird noises, and I'm like remember that episode, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like that. So you could think that,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they're aliens or maybe their ghosts. In
Speaker 2: Christie Lake in the Perth area, a woman wrote about
Speaker 2: Haunted Perth or the hauntings in the eighteen hundreds and
Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds with sticks would get thrown into the windows
Speaker 2: of these settlers cabin they'd throw it back out and
Speaker 2: they'll get thrown back in. So she wrote about all
Speaker 2: these ghostly things that I'm like, that's asquatch, that's not
Speaker 2: a ghost. But people might misinterpret these invisible situations as
Speaker 2: ghosts or whatever. How can you interpret them? It takes
Speaker 2: a long time to put it all together, and so
Speaker 2: it took me a long time to piece all of
Speaker 2: this together and come to the epiphanies and realizations that
Speaker 2: I have for now, and that's why I'm able to
Speaker 2: write it out and get my book structured, and eventually
Speaker 2: I will put it out with maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: more detailed, probably will just be a digital book online.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I guess I wanted to throw that
Speaker 2: one out there and leave it at that. So I
Speaker 2: can't say there's so much more that I could tell,
Speaker 2: little things that happen, but yeah, I just I guess
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that for you, Okay.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for sharing the main experiences that you've
Speaker 1: had out there. And do you continue to go out
Speaker 1: to that area or was that only when you were
Speaker 1: employed there at the campground?
Speaker 2: Oh? In BC? I haven't been out in BC. I
Speaker 2: went out two weeks for two weeks the next year
Speaker 2: to help my cousin hire some people and stuff. But
Speaker 2: I can't even remember what happened out there. I don't
Speaker 2: think much happened when I went out there. I do
Speaker 2: when I was driving to the shoe swap going through Hope,
Speaker 2: there's a river. I can't if it's a Chilliwack river
Speaker 2: or if it's a Fraser, but I would tell people
Speaker 2: quite often I see bears there, but one time the
Speaker 2: river was raging, like it looks totally dangerous, and I look,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling people you sometimes you see bears. And
Speaker 2: I see a big guy sasquatch standing in the middle
Speaker 2: of the river and the waters just passed his knees,
Speaker 2: and it's like, that's impossible. And everybody in my van
Speaker 2: saw him because they gasped, like, oh, do you see
Speaker 2: that guy? And there was a little one on the shore,
Speaker 2: but he was in the water and the water was
Speaker 2: just as turbulent at the shore. It's like, that's impossible.
Speaker 2: How are they standing in the water. And so I
Speaker 2: had four sightings in that river while I was driving
Speaker 2: through Hope in the daylight. And they have sasquatch crossing
Speaker 2: signs there on the highway, and so there was a few.
Speaker 2: One other time there was I looked like four females
Speaker 2: on the on the shore, and half my van saw them.
Speaker 2: They're like, look at all things, and I'm like, polls
Speaker 2: are sawsquatched? And there was some little I saw some
Speaker 2: little ones off to the side, but there was about
Speaker 2: four females and one of them was in the water
Speaker 2: like as if she was bending down washing or something.
Speaker 2: And then I saw further over on another part of
Speaker 2: the river about nine people. They had all like yellow
Speaker 2: and blue and jackets and red jackets, and they're all
Speaker 2: jumping down. They're looking at what I'm seeing. So I
Speaker 2: witnessed the sasquatch on the shore of that river as
Speaker 2: I'm driving on the highway, so I couldn't look too
Speaker 2: long because I had to drive and focus. But I
Speaker 2: saw these people on the river having their own sasquatch
Speaker 2: encounter or event sighting. So I saw the sasquatch, and
Speaker 2: then I saw these people over there jumping up and
Speaker 2: down because they saw them too, So that was pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: But as far as Christie Lake, I did go hiking
Speaker 2: up there when I realized they're up there, and I
Speaker 2: did do plate gifting. I left stuff out for them.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel their presence, but I found which I
Speaker 2: found structures which I filmed and photo. I've taken little
Speaker 2: videos of them. And because I did find some peculiar
Speaker 2: wood structures up there that definitely looks like they they
Speaker 2: probably did it. But then also by the forest by
Speaker 2: my house, I have found tree manipulations and I haven't
Speaker 2: felt anything or seen any anything. I haven't even felt them.
Speaker 2: But I found these trees. This one tree had been
Speaker 2: bent and then it went horizontal for at least maybe
Speaker 2: forty feet, and then it was wedged in another tree,
Speaker 2: and I determined, you'd have to pull that other tree back,
Speaker 2: put the top of that tree in there, and then
Speaker 2: let it go so it locks it in and it
Speaker 2: made a cross like when it crossed, it made a
Speaker 2: perfect cross, and so I thought, wow, that's like a
Speaker 2: perfect cross. This looks like it was manipulated. I study
Speaker 2: tree stuff, and quite often the snow can make trees fall, fall, fall,
Speaker 2: and then they can lock sometimes like that. So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to use my own discretion, like is this natural?
Speaker 2: Was this manipulated? I'm trying to feel that out. And
Speaker 2: then the next time I went, there was another one,
Speaker 2: but smaller, and I've taken video of these, and it
Speaker 2: was a smaller one, but it made a cross. And
Speaker 2: they used a big giant piece of wood, like a
Speaker 2: big giant old part of a tree to hold down
Speaker 2: the top of the tree so it would bend. So
Speaker 2: that the results are you have a cross because there's
Speaker 2: another tree behind it, so it's that's upright, so it
Speaker 2: looks like a cross. And then I went again and
Speaker 2: I found another one. It was a bit sloppy. But
Speaker 2: then I found a spider web out of twigs, like
Speaker 2: it was constructed, and it was kind of made to
Speaker 2: look like kind of like a sloppy spider web. That's
Speaker 2: what it reminded me of. I found all kinds of
Speaker 2: twigs and things being bunched into the center of trees,
Speaker 2: like things that this is a farmer's wood lot in
Speaker 2: the middle of his farm fields. Nobody ever goes into them,
Speaker 2: but I've been finding these, and now there's a corn crop,
Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't walk through the farmer's crop
Speaker 2: to get to this wood so I don't. I only
Speaker 2: visit usually in the winter when I can. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to disturb his crops or after he cuts his crops.
Speaker 2: So once he cuts the corn down that's out beside
Speaker 2: my house, now I'll venture off to see what's going on.
Speaker 2: But I realized, like my vibration probably dropped from doing
Speaker 2: a toxic job and you know, worldly events, all these things.
Speaker 2: I think my vibration lowered, and so maybe perhaps I
Speaker 2: wasn't as open and accessible or as sensitive, and so
Speaker 2: I think I've been raising it up. I've been doing
Speaker 2: a lot of work. I mean, I taught chigung for
Speaker 2: a while, I and kung fu, and I've been practicing
Speaker 2: keigung and tree communions all the time. And the trees
Speaker 2: are what I found. Is there like antennas or telephone,
Speaker 2: you can use trees to communicate. Like in America, a
Speaker 2: lot of people carry guns because there's other dangerous humans
Speaker 2: in the woods. And I think sasquats can't stand guns.
Speaker 2: So if you are walking into the woods and you
Speaker 2: feel you want to carry, the best thing you could
Speaker 2: do is put your hand on a tree or just
Speaker 2: send your intentions. But I think using a tree is best.
Speaker 2: And say, I'm a peaceful person coming into your woods
Speaker 2: and I'm carrying a gun in case I run into
Speaker 2: you know, crazy terrible humans that want to kill me.
Speaker 2: For my own protection. I have no intention of killing anything.
Speaker 2: I just need this for my own protection. Maybe the
Speaker 2: sasquats will determine. Okay, all right, Okay, we know why
Speaker 2: it's carrying a gun. That makes sense. There are bad
Speaker 2: humans and they might do a tree knock, and they
Speaker 2: might give you some actions, and they might say, oh
Speaker 2: to hell with you. We don't wanly be around. You
Speaker 2: got a gun. So it's just that I know that
Speaker 2: a lot of people that go searching for them out
Speaker 2: in the wilderness they carry and that will probably thwart
Speaker 2: you from having an experience unless you want to put
Speaker 2: that communication out if you're open to it. You know
Speaker 2: like they are telepathic, So if you keep that in mind,
Speaker 2: I think your good intention thoughts to them that you
Speaker 2: do want to connect with them, and they often know
Speaker 2: that person's not ready to connect with me. Les Stroud's
Speaker 2: survivor man. He said that one of them talked in
Speaker 2: his head. I think it was down in Tennessee and
Speaker 2: they said, we're just a few more ridges over if
Speaker 2: you want to meet us, and he said he wasn't ready.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not ready for this. I mean i'd
Speaker 2: be like I'm there, but he's not ready. He's living
Speaker 2: up in Timiscamine, up in northern Ontario where there's Sasquatch.
Speaker 2: There's a guy named Ian Patterson, no relationship to me,
Speaker 2: who's been interacting with the family of them in North
Speaker 2: Bay for over ten years. He's had black helicopters follow him.
Speaker 2: He's had a lot, he's had them, yet they've yelled
Speaker 2: out his name, and they've done all kinds of paranormal
Speaker 2: things with him. So they are up in northern Ontario.
Speaker 2: I used to go to North Bay for a trucking
Speaker 2: route and I would feel them up there, and I
Speaker 2: started to do like set up an exchange with them,
Speaker 2: hanging crystals on this fence, leaving apples. But then where
Speaker 2: I was going for my job, they stopped, so I
Speaker 2: couldn't investigate that area because I felt they were in
Speaker 2: a marsh and a bit of a lake behind this
Speaker 2: industrial area. And so they're definitely up there because I
Speaker 2: could feel them when I was driving every night back
Speaker 2: and forth to North Bay in a transport truck, I
Speaker 2: could feel them sometimes. And one amazing encounter I had
Speaker 2: coming back from the North Bay, I saw a sprite
Speaker 2: she it was a glowing white object came zooming out
Speaker 2: of the woods. It was already white in the woods,
Speaker 2: so my headlights weren't hitting it. It zoomed out, hovered
Speaker 2: over the road, and then it did a dupy do
Speaker 2: to the left and up and then to the right,
Speaker 2: and it was purposely flying towards me, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what that That's not a bird, That's not a moth
Speaker 2: that's too big for a moth. It was white glowing.
Speaker 2: It had its own white luminescence, and it had a
Speaker 2: small body, not like a bird. And it flew right
Speaker 2: at me, up and then down to the right and
Speaker 2: up and then down to the left and up, and
Speaker 2: then it went under my truck on purpose. And I
Speaker 2: looked in my mirror and I saw a streak go
Speaker 2: back to the woods in my mirror, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just saw a tinkerbell. I just saw like a spite.
Speaker 2: So up in those areas, you get a lot of
Speaker 2: these elementals, you know, And I think it's if you
Speaker 2: go into a sasquatch area, you're also going into an
Speaker 2: area where there are other elementals, and they may be
Speaker 2: taking on the form of an animal, like a mouse.
Speaker 2: I've had a mouse just hop up on my knee
Speaker 2: at Widgeon Creek, grab a cranberry off the ground and
Speaker 2: eat it, and people like, is that your mouse. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I've never seen this mouse before. And so the chief
Speaker 2: said that might be an elemental acting as posing as
Speaker 2: a mouse. And so you know, if you have these encounters,
Speaker 2: you you don't know what kind of creatures, I mean,
Speaker 2: dog men, are talked about, and I don't know much
Speaker 2: about them, but I think that there are times where
Speaker 2: sasquatch will chase people out of areas where dog men are.
Speaker 2: And so I don't know much about dogmen, but certainly
Speaker 2: sasquatch do go into areas I think where there are energy,
Speaker 2: natural energy vortecs of the planet, and maybe that they're
Speaker 2: drawn to them. Maybe they have to guard them as
Speaker 2: things come through. There's maybe all kinds of reasons why
Speaker 2: they would be around them, dimensional portals that they can
Speaker 2: travel through. Perhaps I can only speculate, right, But yeah,
Speaker 2: so all right, John, I don't know what's out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely a lot of information to take in all
Speaker 1: at once, but I definitely believe. Yeah, these experiences and
Speaker 1: the sasquatch are totally in Canada. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: great area to experience them. But yeah, just definitely be
Speaker 1: careful when you're out there, because it's hard to say
Speaker 1: that they truly are capable of and like you said,
Speaker 1: there's mixed experiences out there, whether they're good and bad,
Speaker 1: and I think it's best to just be cautious when
Speaker 1: you're out there because you never know what you're going
Speaker 1: to run into.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm more afraid of crazy humans in
Speaker 2: the woods. I'm definitely not afraid of them. I know
Speaker 2: I'm not. I mean, there's a grumpy white Sasquatch at
Speaker 2: Sasquatch Lake and BC and in the sixties, one hundred
Speaker 2: pickup trucks went up there to hunt and shoot him,
Speaker 2: and he was poking them in the back while I
Speaker 2: was invisible, and they were hopping in their trucks and
Speaker 2: taking off. But he's a grumpy guy, and he thinks
Speaker 2: he talked to sun Bow, and he was insulting sun
Speaker 2: Bow and he's like, you guys are a bunch of
Speaker 2: stupid apes, stupid monkeys, and but he was. He was
Speaker 2: he had a dark sense of humor, and so he
Speaker 2: might be considered he's in the very old one, and
Speaker 2: he might be considered a little grumpy. But I have
Speaker 2: no fear of them. I mean, I don't feel I
Speaker 2: have to be careful of psychotic humans. That's more of
Speaker 2: my concern because you can run into some pretty bad
Speaker 2: people in the North. They're in woods too, homeless guys
Speaker 2: that go off and decide to be reclose and and
Speaker 2: they're a bit off, you know. That's what I'm more
Speaker 2: concerned about I, Like I said, like I hiked up
Speaker 2: to the top of the mountain at Shoe Swap. I
Speaker 2: would not do that normally, but because of the Sasquats
Speaker 2: were there, I felt totally safe and comfortable. So no,
Speaker 2: I mean, these these ideas that they're they're terrors or monsters,
Speaker 2: I can't accept that at all. No, because when you
Speaker 2: encounter them as much as I have, you realize they're
Speaker 2: beautiful people and they're mysterious. And they even admitted to
Speaker 2: Sun Goo, Yeah, we were like humans, we have a
Speaker 2: diversified you know, we're all connected to a lot pathetically.
Speaker 2: But there are some that might be a little bit
Speaker 2: bullying humans sometimes because they just they feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: they they have that ability. They can just have fun,
Speaker 2: like let's let's go scare some people, you know, like
Speaker 2: humans do that, Like let's let's go freak some people out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess, but I really don't think they
Speaker 2: would intentionally harm anybody. They've they've witnessed people murdering girls
Speaker 2: in the forest and they don't intervene. They think that's
Speaker 2: that's human stuff. We don't intervene with that. But they
Speaker 2: have protected and helped some people. So yeah, I I
Speaker 2: if I'm going to be careful boy out of the
Speaker 2: woods out west, it's grizzlies, you know. I had a
Speaker 2: grizzly charge me in my group and that was scary,
Speaker 2: and he was already known to be a menace and
Speaker 2: a bad guy, and that that's what I'm terrified about,
Speaker 2: is something like that. But no, I have no fear
Speaker 2: of them. And I guess I could have fear of
Speaker 2: of one that might not be one that's an abomination,
Speaker 2: But for the most part, no, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're to be feared. I think people will fear
Speaker 2: the unknown and fear like something that's happening that's invisible
Speaker 2: around them. That's that can be scary. But I guess
Speaker 2: I'm more of a curious mind than more of a
Speaker 2: you know, of a fearful mind. And so I mean,
Speaker 2: I've always been a pretty good athlete. I've always been
Speaker 2: able to handle myself well. So I just I guess
Speaker 2: I have more of an instinct of I'd rather know
Speaker 2: what this is as opposed to running away from it,
Speaker 2: you know. But they can shock you and bolt cause
Speaker 2: you to bolt and run, you know, so that's not
Speaker 2: necessarily under the grounds of being terrified by them. It's
Speaker 2: just the element of surprise and shock sometimes. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. I've been down in Florida. The skunk capes
Speaker 2: are aggressive, you know, they're a different type of saucequatch,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I think if you're going down in
Speaker 2: those areas, you might want to be a bit careful.
Speaker 2: And then of course there's other cryptids and in the
Speaker 2: swamp lands down there that I hear about, like reptilian
Speaker 2: type of things, and yeah, I would be very nervous
Speaker 2: about that. But if I knew sacequatch were around, I
Speaker 2: think i'd feel safe because yeah, I just think they're Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they would look after me as opposed to
Speaker 2: do anything bad. But what about you, You have you
Speaker 2: had your any negative encounters for yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm just been screamed up, bluff charged and followed out
Speaker 1: of the woods, but nothing that indicates that they were
Speaker 1: trying to get me. But I mean there are other
Speaker 1: stories around the Midwest here where I live, where people
Speaker 1: have been chased out of the woods or you know,
Speaker 1: did have these terrifying you.
Speaker 2: Know, where the dynamics. Maybe they were carrying a gun,
Speaker 2: like if they were carrying a gun, then yeah, I
Speaker 2: can see that happening. A lot of people do carry
Speaker 2: down there, right, So uh, that's why I recommend if
Speaker 2: you are carrying and you want to go out looking
Speaker 2: for them, set the intentions to the forest that you
Speaker 2: don't want to use your gun for anything unless you
Speaker 2: encounter a crazy human, because the Slavs squats couldn't relate
Speaker 2: with that. They know there's crazy humans that will kill
Speaker 2: other humans, and they could understand why you would want
Speaker 2: to bring a gun for that purpose. But but clarify that.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think if they're not carrying and
Speaker 2: they still get chased, it could because there's something else
Speaker 2: that's dangerous. You know that they could see that if
Speaker 2: that human goes into that area, it's dangerous. Maybe there's
Speaker 2: an energy portal that can hurt their health. Maybe there's
Speaker 2: something that the Sasquash know that you don't know and
Speaker 2: so they want to scare you out. Maybe they have
Speaker 2: a family and they have babies and they just don't
Speaker 2: want anybody in their space. So it could be a
Speaker 2: multitude of things. But yeah, be careful going out into
Speaker 2: the woods for crazy humans. I mean down on the
Speaker 2: Appalachian Trail, there is that psycho that was going after
Speaker 2: hikers and he eventually murdered a few people. That's the
Speaker 2: type of scariness. That's the type of terror that I
Speaker 2: would think is probably more dangerous. So yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: really appreciate you letting me share my stories, and you know,
Speaker 2: if people can do what they want with this information.
Speaker 2: I am speaking from the heart and it did happen,
Speaker 2: and I don't mind talking about it now, and I
Speaker 2: will be going back to Christie Lake soon and going
Speaker 2: to do some more exploring.
Speaker 1: All right, it sounds good, and you'd be careful when
Speaker 1: you're out there. If you encounter anything else in the future,
Speaker 1: feel free to reach out. And I appreciate you for
Speaker 1: taking the time to log down your experiences here on
Speaker 1: the channel. I want to thank John for coming back
Speaker 1: on sasquatch theory and continuing to share his experiences. What
Speaker 1: makes John's story especially interesting is that many of these
Speaker 1: incidents didn't happen in complete isolation. Over the years, he
Speaker 1: met other people who described their own strange encounters, and
Speaker 1: some of those reports came from the same areas where
Speaker 1: John had experienced unusual activity himself. From the terrified park
Speaker 1: worker who believed something large was following him through the
Speaker 1: forest to the whistles and vocalizations coming from the woods.
Speaker 1: John's experiences raised plenty of questions. And then there are
Speaker 1: the stranger elements of his story, the sensation of being
Speaker 1: pursued by something he couldn't see, missing time, and his
Speaker 1: claim that he somehow found a self transported to another location.
Speaker 1: Those certainly are extraordinary claims, and ultimately I wasn't there
Speaker 1: to witness what happened. My goal with sasquatch theory is
Speaker 1: to give people a place to tell their stories and
Speaker 1: their own words, and allow you, the audience, to decide
Speaker 1: what you think. Now, if I had to pick on John,
Speaker 1: I would disagree that these creatures are friendly, and I
Speaker 1: do believe they are dangerous. Anything can be dangerous out
Speaker 1: in the wilderness. Even beavers have been known to kill people.
Speaker 1: If they bite you in a main artery, you could
Speaker 1: bleed to death. Deer jump out in front of people's
Speaker 1: vehicles all the time, and people lose their lives just
Speaker 1: because of deer. So a creature that's ten foot tall,
Speaker 1: one thousand pounds that can rip full sized trees out
Speaker 1: of the ground and deroot them, I would say they
Speaker 1: are potentially dangerous, and I would listen to what the
Speaker 1: Native Americans said about sasquatch that they will eat people. Now,
Speaker 1: are their friendly Sasquatch? Absolutely, I believe a lot of
Speaker 1: the juveniles and females can be friendly, but if you
Speaker 1: come across male things could get very dangerous quickly. So
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind. And this isn't to put
Speaker 1: John down, but I don't want to educate people on
Speaker 1: my channel and say that they're all friendly beings. So
Speaker 1: definitely go out there and be cautious, because we don't
Speaker 1: know enough about sasquatch to truly say that people who
Speaker 1: say they are dangerous are just lying. My goal with
Speaker 1: that statement is not to put John down or dismiss
Speaker 1: his theories about the Sasquatch, but I do believe it's
Speaker 1: best to be cautious when you're out there in the
Speaker 1: woods because the Native Americans did warn us that they
Speaker 1: will steal women and children and they will possibly eat you,
Speaker 1: so keep that in mind. And also there were people
Speaker 1: that said the same things about grizzly bears that ended
Speaker 1: up getting eaten, So yeah, it's always best to be
Speaker 1: safe than to be sorry. Anyways, I appreciate everyone for
Speaker 1: listening today. If you have a bigfoot encounter that you
Speaker 1: would like to report here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free
Speaker 1: to reach out sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com.
Speaker 1: With all that being said, you guys be safe out
Speaker 1: in the wilderness,