WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.519 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Choston's Radio. 2 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:11.480 Okay, welcome back. You know I do I just I look. 3 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.199 I got the electric build the other day, and I 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:16.760 swear to God, you know my father, my father used 5 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.399 to look with the with the thermostat would turn it 6 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.120 down like two degrees like. 7 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:21.879 That makes it different. 8 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:25.839 But the laughter is coming from Demoria and Linton, the 9 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:33.079 CEO of Inertia Resources. Uh talking about the price of electricity. Okay, 10 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.759 let's start within the home and then we'll go and 11 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:40.759 we'll talk about all the tariffs and all the crap 12 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:47.240 that's going on with Canada and all that stuff. Does 13 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.560 it really matter? Like, Okay, this is what happened. You know, 14 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.240 I lose weight shutting off lights. I do laps around 15 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:59.200 my house. I lose, you know, shutting off lights bathroom, 16 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:05.519 one daughter's bedroom, another's daughter's bedroom, in one daughter's bedroom. 17 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.159 It's not just one set of lights, it's two. I 18 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.920 have two switches, two switches. There are these crazy like 19 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.040 lamps and then there's the regular lights. Both are on 20 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.920 and you have to shut them off. Correct. Does that 21 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:20.840 really save a lot of money or is it just 22 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:21.680 peace of mind? 23 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:22.000 For me? 24 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:28.959 It actually really does save your bottom line. What a 25 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.599 lot of people don't understand that what really kills, or 26 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.959 we call it ghost energy inside the house is things 27 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:39.200 that are actually plugged in that are actually not being used. 28 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:40.840 Oh wow, so. 29 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.680 Yeah, so like if you don't have anything plugged into 30 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:48.239 the wall, we ternment like ghost energy, were that actually 31 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.840 that device, whether it's an air fryer or a microwave 32 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.879 or television or something that even if you just left 33 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:58.480 it in and you turn it off, those devices still 34 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.480 use electricity. And that's probably one of the most common 35 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.359 things that we see that people just don't know about. 36 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.719 Where you have something plugged in, you're not using it, 37 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:12.400 you're saying, hey, it's off, that device is still using electricity. 38 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:13.240 How much. 39 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:18.520 You're talking about probably five to maybe eight percent of 40 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.800 your bill typically a month. One of the other things 41 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.960 that people don't know that can really reduce the amount 42 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:27.080 of energy that is being used in their home is 43 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.759 understanding the difference between on and off peak times. Most 44 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.000 people don't know that your house has to work about 45 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.240 eight times harder between eight am and five pm every day. 46 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:40.360 So if you're using the dishwasher or washer and dryer 47 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.400 during that time, it consumes a ton of energy and 48 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.919 just makes your energy will go up a lot. 49 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.360 Why why eight to five? Why would like seven o'clock 50 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.280 at night be any different than eight to five. 51 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.360 Because that's when typically most businesses are That's when the 52 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.879 grid's working the hardness. Because typically when most businesses are 53 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.240 using a lot of the electricity, so the grid is 54 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.560 working harder to get energy out to everyone, so it 55 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:06.080 makes it more expensive. So if you want to actually 56 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.360 use less electricity or have to b the lower you 57 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.360 would want to actually wash your clothes, run the dishwasher, 58 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.159 do those things before eight am, after a PM, or 59 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.120 on the weekends. Off peak time is typically anytime where 60 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.719 business to business day to day are not consuming a 61 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.520 lot of energy. So that's also the weekends after five 62 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.199 o'clock before eight am. 63 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.199 So I'm a stay at home dad. So my wife 64 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.840 comes out of the office and she says, how can 65 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.280 you're not doing the laundry? I think after five? Got 66 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:33.960 to do it after five? 67 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.080 Yeah, now you have an amazing excuse to do it 68 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:37.520 after five. 69 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.680 I gotta do it after five. I'm please. I'm watching 70 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.960 Sports Center. Of course the TV's on. The TV's on, 71 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:48.000 you know, so if I okay, well, I'm not going 72 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.520 to unplug everything in the house. Obviously, I'm not going 73 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:52.439 to go I'm not going to go unplug the TV. 74 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:57.800 But we are so guilty of that. I have phone chargers, 75 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:07.159 computer printer, my laptop when it's charged, you know, the 76 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.520 stupid you know band I use at the gym to 77 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.919 tell me that I've burned five calories. You know, that's 78 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.399 all over the place. That's amazing. So if I stop 79 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.000 doing that with things that are accessible, I will see 80 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.279 a difference in my electric bill. 81 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.199 Oh. The other common thing that we see a lot 82 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.319 of times, especially in the New England area because sometimes 83 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.240 typically homes are older, is not having and this is 84 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.360 maybe a larger project, but not having well insulation. And 85 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:38.160 that's the biggest that's one of the biggest things we 86 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.279 see across the board. Just sometimes a home, whether it's 87 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.160 the summer or the winter, if there is energy or 88 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:49.240 heat escaping your home through the windowsills or through anything 89 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.319 throughout the house, your home has to work harder to 90 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.519 keep everything warmer, to keep everything cool. So one of 91 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.680 the things that I don't know, if you remember my grandmother, 92 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:58.720 you su sin to they I always close the door 93 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.360 because you're not air conditioning me entire neighborhood. 94 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.800 A lot of time your heat no mine was My 95 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.399 dad used to say, stop heating the g D outdoors. 96 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.720 Yeah, so actually grandmother and grandfather were actually correct. You 97 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.120 want to try to keep as much energy inside your 98 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.560 house as possible. So if if it's in the wintertime, 99 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.319 one of the biggest things that we see is when 100 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.600 the window sills aren't properly insulated and let's like there's 101 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.720 that cool air that you can still feel. That means 102 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:29.800 that your home is having to work harder to keep 103 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.680 keep the house warm, and so the bills typically go 104 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.120 up during the wintertime during that if they're using natural 105 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.600 gas or you're using all electric. And the biggest, the 106 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.839 biggest culprit is in the summertime, where that that that 107 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.480 cool air that air conditioning is getting out and it's warming, 108 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.279 it's it's not keeping the house warm. So that's why 109 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.439 a lot of times electricity build skyrocket in the summer 110 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.480 because the house isn't well it's insulated. 111 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.519 Yeah, plus the AC's cranking. You know, if you have 112 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.800 a you know, and my dad would he would, I'll 113 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.240 never forget, like we have a central a see, and 114 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.680 because we're spoiled, and we're Americans and we can't live 115 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:07.839 without it. And I remember my dad refused to buy 116 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:11.160 an air conditioner with not just a simple air conditioner 117 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.480 that you put in the window, it's say, for the 118 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.160 fifteen days out of the year or the ten days 119 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.920 out of the year, you open up the windows, you 120 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.000 just deal with the heat. Refuse to do it, would 121 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.120 not do it. And now those of us, we can't 122 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.240 live without central air or some sort of ex Yeah, 123 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.199 it's nuts. Now, my my, well, my family room is 124 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.279 a money it's a money pit. I mean I got 125 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:37.160 oh it's gorgeous. I got beautiful windows, I got high ceilings, 126 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.160 and now I'm talking to you, and I just see 127 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.160 money going out the window. I mean it's no doubt. 128 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.279 I mean it's great, it's beautiful. But you know, I 129 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.319 thought that the construction costs were enough, but it's there's 130 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.839 no doubt about it. It's and you know, the baseboard 131 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.959 heat is beneath the windows, and but it's and you 132 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.800 have high ceilings and that's that's tougher to heat as well. 133 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.600 You know, forget about it. It's a nightmare. 134 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.120 Yeah yeah, led light bulbs will also. I mean that's 135 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.279 kind of like well known that'll knock down the bill 136 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.680 another ten fifteen percent if you do replace everything that's 137 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.439 most commonly now that everybody knows. But the things again 138 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.600 that most people don't know is you know, turning off 139 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.199 your devices that you can that aren't like a headache 140 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.800 to be able to you know, access and take out. 141 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:22.399 And then also just trying to fix any leaks and 142 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:24.959 make sure you're homes well in solely we're no heats 143 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:26.480 getting out or no cold air is going out. 144 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:27.720 That a really really have about a. 145 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:29.920 Lot of people don't sometimes realize how hard their buildings 146 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.120 are working or their homes are working to try to 147 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:33.319 keep everything cool or warm. 148 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.920 Well, I'll tell you what I was told by some contractors. 149 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.879 And my house was built in nineteen seventy nine. It sucks. 150 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:41.360 I mean it's a great house, but I mean as 151 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.720 far as the insulation, I forget about it. It's terrible. 152 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.759 And it was there was a time. I mean, if 153 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.639 you take a look at homes that were built in 154 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:53.399 the thirties and probably I don't know about the forties, 155 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:58.040 but it's built in the thirties, they are better insulated 156 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.040 and better made than homes that up in the late 157 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.199 seventies and probably in the fifties after the boom after 158 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.560 World War Two, because they were putting them up so 159 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:07.920 fast that people could move in. 160 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.959 That is correct. Yeah, the homes were built a lot 161 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.800 better back then when they started, when we started popularizing 162 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.439 new major cities, they were just really talking, really worried 163 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.160 about getting the home up there and not doing what 164 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.680 they were doing before to keep i mean, using the 165 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.560 best products. So yeah, you're you're one hundred percent correct. 166 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.879 All right. And also as far as the heat goes, 167 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.439 you know, put on a sweater, you know what I mean, 168 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:32.600 just put on a sweater. 169 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:35.399 You could do that. A lot of people will have 170 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.440 the smart thermosets and they will try to set them 171 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.639 accordingly to like when their home and when not. A 172 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.639 lot of times when we do these energy audits and 173 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.039 we look at someone's thermostat, you know, it's running the 174 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.039 same as it would run if they were home or 175 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:50.720 not home. And believe it or not, I know it 176 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.279 doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's a huge 177 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:55.559 culprit as well. Or someone just keeps the ac running 178 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.200 whether they're home or not home, just so they can 179 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.639 have that cool five minutes when or they come in 180 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.639 from the first time in the house. But that just 181 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.960 waste and waste tons of energy when you do that. 182 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:10.600 Yeah, I need a new thermostat, you know, because right 183 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.200 now the only way that works is if I keep 184 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.440 it on in one section, in one zone. 185 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.320 They have Yeah, they have great ones now. So like 186 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.639 what I see a lot of people's, especially in the summer, 187 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.240 they come with apps now, so you can literally be 188 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:24.879 at home and say I'm gonna be home in five minutes, 189 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.360 have it off all day, and just click it on 190 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.480 before you get home. That way when you walk in 191 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.440 the house is cool, But a lot of times we 192 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.120 do energy on it and we go back and look 193 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:33.720 at the thermostat and you say that you've been running 194 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.600 the same cycle seven days a week for the last 195 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:38.080 six months. That's one of the reasons that your bill 196 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:41.639 is probably more expensive. Like there needs to be vacation mode, 197 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.879 it needs to be also things where you can set 198 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:45.279 timing is based on where you're going to be home, 199 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:46.080 and you're not going to. 200 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.720 Be home, there's an app for that. Oh my god, 201 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.360 you have just made this. You have just made this 202 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.080 interview worthwhile. You have earned your money though you're doing 203 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.759 it for free. I have some more questions for you. 204 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.559 Can you hang on no, of course, Okay, Morian Linton 205 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:02.000 joins us. By the way, if you have a phone call, 206 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.399 you have you a question for the more and you 207 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.600 want to don't call and ask about politics. Don't call 208 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.120 and ask about Trump or don't do that. If you 209 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:14.159 have a question how to save money energy wise, just 210 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.960 give us a call at six seven two four ten thirty. 211 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.840 The Moran can answer your question. This is Nightside on WBZ. 212 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:24.120 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 213 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.360 night Side Studio on WBZ News Radio. 214 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:31.080 Okay Darien for day tonight, CEO of Inertia Resources, the 215 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.759 Morian Linton, talking about saving energy and the things you 216 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.639 can do that really just aren't that time consuming and 217 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.320 quite simple in order to lower your electric bill, like 218 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:44.320 unplugging things, which is something I'm going to start doing. Now. 219 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.600 Let's I don't want to get too political here, but 220 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.080 what's going on in Canada. We understand ten percent of 221 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.759 our of our energy in New England comes from Canada 222 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:56.919 from Maine, so I think I can understand this. So 223 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:00.200 how does what's going on with Trump and Trudeau in 224 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.840 the negotiation for these tariffs, how does that possibly impact 225 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.000 our energy situation. 226 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:10.600 So it's more or less the tariffs you would think 227 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.480 it's actually the energy consumption or generation. The energy is 228 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:19.080 more the traded commodity versus where it's actually coming from. 229 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.240 The tariffs are more or less going to affect the 230 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.639 you know, steel and aluminum that crosses over for the 231 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.679 infrastructure for our grid. So let's just say, for instance, 232 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.919 anytime there's down wires a lot of times, we'll get 233 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.080 things from Mexico, We'll get things from China, we'll get 234 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.840 things from you know, Canada where and we import those things, 235 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.320 and creating a tariff will increase not on the actual 236 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.879 electricity rate, but our distribution costs, which are the other 237 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.440 fifty percent of the bill. Wherever source and National Grid 238 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:49.960 go out and fix things when everything goes down, they 239 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.279 have to get the they have to get the steel 240 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.840 and the aluminum and the copper and everything from somewhere. 241 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.200 So we do tariffs and we put tariffs on that. 242 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.000 That will increase infrastructure pricing, which it's typically voted on 243 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.679 by the Department of Public Utility or here in the state, 244 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:06.759 and they regulate those things. So it's not anything that's 245 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.120 going to be an immediate impact on like our bill, 246 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.639 Like the first day, people think that, hey, their tear 247 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.799 goes in on the twenty fifth hay with armageddon rate, 248 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:16.759 they're about to go up twenty five percent tomorrow. It 249 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.639 doesn't work like that. It takes a long time for 250 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.000 those things to go into effect. 251 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.600 So how does brokering energy work? 252 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.879 Well, what virtually happens happens is a lot of times 253 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.440 small and mid size you know, customers don't understand what 254 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.960 their rights are as far as you know customers. And 255 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.360 I'll tell you now that we see it based on 256 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.840 because mass dot gov does an amazing job of letting 257 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.600 us see computer loa data of people that have switched 258 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.080 and have not. And when it comes to residents, over 259 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.480 forty one percent of the state of Massachusetts still does 260 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.399 not switch. They haven't done anything. Thirty percent of that 261 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.759 as aggregations where the cities have now said, you know, 262 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:02.200 we can see energy price increasing, we're going to lock 263 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.320 everybody in, and about fifteen to twenty percent of homes 264 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:06.120 do it theirselves. 265 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:06.679 Now. 266 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:10.279 When across the small businesses, those numbers change dramatically. Where 267 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.799 you know small businesses they say, you know, it's thirty 268 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:17.039 percent of them they take care of themselves. I would 269 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:21.200 say about seventeen percent don't do anything, and another fifty 270 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.080 percent let the city do it. But if you're talking 271 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.879 to like your large billion dollar companies Fortune one hundreds 272 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.679 that are publicly traded, ninety eight percent of them are 273 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.320 managing their energy. They're locking it in because they understand 274 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.120 that regardless of like who's any administration or what natural 275 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:39.399 gas prices are those that's actually the biggest factor. Energy 276 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.080 has been increasing since nineteen eighty two to four percent 277 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:46.000 based on inflation every year. So I tell people that 278 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.519 when we have these conversations, the only thing that will 279 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:53.320 really ever drop energy pricing is a recession, and nobody 280 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:56.399 wants that. So just expect that this is always going 281 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.440 to be a cost that's going to increase a little bit, 282 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.240 like a like death by apout and cuts. So we 283 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:02.720 tell a lot of people to make sure that your 284 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.320 rate's locked in for the low longest period of time 285 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.919 that you possibly can, to make sure that you protect 286 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:10.759 yourself from future increases, because it's not an if, Like 287 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.399 if I had the charts, I would show it to you, 288 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.039 but it's not if the rates are going up or 289 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.360 if they're going to get a down. It's dramatic trend. 290 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:21.120 Every single year two to four percent it increases. 291 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.240 So I can I call ever lock in. 292 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:26.759 Well, there's a bunch of sites where you can actually 293 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.440 go to mass dot gov and you can go on 294 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.480 the website and they can give you all the options 295 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.440 that you can do to You can lock in for 296 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.240 a year, you can do two years, three years, you 297 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.559 can do one hundred percent green products. Solars A a 298 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:41.679 majing option for homeowners as well if they qualify. So 299 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.240 there's a bunch of different options to protect yourselves from energy. 300 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.720 But that that's what we try to tell most people. 301 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:51.240 Just not doing anything and just paying your electricity bill 302 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.320 is not the way to do it. Like if you look, 303 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.840 if you just looked at your if you could find 304 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.600 a bill from like twenty ten or twenty eleven, like 305 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.639 in your filing cabinet, if you did, if you looked 306 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.759 at it, you don't notice the rates of energy in 307 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.039 Massachusetts have increased one hundred and fifty four percent in 308 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.120 the last ten years, and a lot of people don't 309 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.600 realize that because it's happening slow. Over a certain career. 310 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.080 Death by a thousand cuts was very appropriate. 311 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.720 Yeah, yeah, so you need to make sure that you're 312 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.840 protected that your rate's locked in. But the biggest issue 313 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.159 that we have in Massachusetts is that when people lock 314 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.480 into an energy rate, they don't understand that you have 315 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:32.200 to renew it after it's over with, and that's so 316 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.320 that's that's what we see. The biggest confusion we see 317 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.279 people and that's the biggest complaint that we get from 318 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.600 new customers, like, Hey, I locked in my rate and 319 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.240 then it's shot up. I'm not doing that again. Where 320 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:45.960 it's like, no, when the energy supplier locks you into 321 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.480 a year, two years, three years, yeah, you have to 322 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:51.320 renew it, and if you don't renew it, they have 323 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:54.759 to start purchasing a month to month and that's super expensive. 324 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.919 And even the state of Massachusetts, the attorney generals here 325 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.720 have done an amazing job to say, look, if you're 326 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.799 going to lock in rate, the energy suppliers, by law 327 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.679 have to send you a little letter at least ninety 328 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.440 days prior saying that you have to renew it. But 329 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.679 a lot of times homeowners, business owners, they get the 330 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.200 leaf live and they throw it away. 331 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.799 Yeah, they don't right, they don't think they have to 332 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.080 do anything right. 333 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:17.879 They don't think they have to do anything, so they say, oh, 334 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:19.440 I got this low rate, it was really great. It 335 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.240 worked for a year and then it shot up. So 336 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.000 that's what we see is just understanding that, hey, if 337 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:24.919 you lock in for a year, lock in for two years, 338 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.559 set a little note, set a little reminder, make sure 339 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.200 that you have to renew, and all these things that 340 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.279 we talk about in regards to getting your bill lower. 341 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:35.360 These are very very small, five second things that it 342 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.039 takes to do. It's just a lot of people won't 343 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.759 go through the motion of doing it. Because in Massachusetts 344 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.919 we have it's I think we're ranked forty seventh in 345 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.639 the country with it regards to the electricity usage, but 346 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:49.720 we have the third highest energy third highest energy rates 347 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:52.919 in the entire country. So it's very important that people 348 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.039 just make sure that they understand that you're getting charged 349 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.559 a lot. The City of Boston has tried to do 350 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:00.399 a really great job of making sure that every one's 351 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.240 locked in for at least the next year and a half, 352 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:04.400 because if they didn't do that, people would be paying 353 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.960 even higher. But people need to understand that you do 354 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:09.640 have options. Small businesses seem to understand that you can 355 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.440 actually get better rates on your own. If you're demanding 356 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.799 your capacity tags are pretty high. So homeowners and business 357 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.680 owners just need to understand that this is something that 358 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.160 you just don't want to do nothing, because a lot 359 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.359 of times when we come across business owners every day, 360 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.920 they're like, well, I wasn't doing nothing, and they look 361 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:27.720 and see that their rates seventeen cents and they drop 362 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.759 it down to twelve and they're like, oh, this is great. 363 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:33.720 So it's just giving people the information and understanding what 364 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:34.440 their options are. 365 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.359 How can we be forty seventh in usage. 366 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.400 The infort it's what you said before, the central air conditioning, 367 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.039 because we're so high up, you know, that's fifty sixty 368 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.799 percent of most people's bills, and everything lower than us 369 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.599 just consumes more energy because of heat. So the other 370 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.039 two states I believe are believing or not our main 371 00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.920 and New Hampshire, which is I think forty eighth and fiftieth. 372 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.480 It's just where we're located in regards to latitude. 373 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:03.799 So it's cooler. 374 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.319 Basically, it's a lot cooler, so we don't use as 375 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.759 much electricity, but we also have the third highest I 376 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:14.880 believe energy rates in the country because of all the 377 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:19.160 renewable all the renewable things that we have baked into 378 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.200 our rates. The state of Massachusetts is very proactive and 379 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.920 making sure that we're as renewable and as green as possible. 380 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.279 And because of that, I mean, it's amazing for the environment, 381 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:31.960 But it does the outcome of that is the rates 382 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:32.559 are a little bit. 383 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:37.160 Higher when it comes to solar. Are there options now 384 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.039 so you don't have to have quite frankly, those ugly 385 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.319 panels on your roof? Correct? 386 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:46.400 So yes, what. 387 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.920 Can you do? Because I think it's cool, but I said, 388 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:50.240 I'm not putting those on my roof. 389 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:55.920 Well, it just really depends a lot. I mean, Tesla 390 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:57.920 has a really great product right now. And I don't 391 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.720 work with Tesla or anything like that out there, but 392 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.319 a minute, you know that, I don't know. I don't 393 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.400 mean to give him any credit at all for anything, 394 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.759 but he's. 395 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.000 Too busy firing everybody in Washington. 396 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.400 Yeah. I think they're right. He's doing a lot of 397 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.359 stuff right now. But I think that a lot of 398 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:20.559 people just have to understand. You can get a lot 399 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:23.640 of times. I'll even say my mother was really arguing 400 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.480 with my own father because she would she didn't want 401 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:29.880