Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Choston's Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back. You know I do I just I look.
Speaker 2: I got the electric build the other day, and I
Speaker 2: swear to God, you know my father, my father used
Speaker 2: to look with the with the thermostat would turn it
Speaker 2: down like two degrees like.
Speaker 3: That makes it different.
Speaker 2: But the laughter is coming from Demoria and Linton, the
Speaker 2: CEO of Inertia Resources. Uh talking about the price of electricity. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's start within the home and then we'll go and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about all the tariffs and all the crap
Speaker 2: that's going on with Canada and all that stuff. Does
Speaker 2: it really matter? Like, Okay, this is what happened. You know,
Speaker 2: I lose weight shutting off lights. I do laps around
Speaker 2: my house. I lose, you know, shutting off lights bathroom,
Speaker 2: one daughter's bedroom, another's daughter's bedroom, in one daughter's bedroom.
Speaker 2: It's not just one set of lights, it's two. I
Speaker 2: have two switches, two switches. There are these crazy like
Speaker 2: lamps and then there's the regular lights. Both are on
Speaker 2: and you have to shut them off. Correct. Does that
Speaker 2: really save a lot of money or is it just
Speaker 2: peace of mind?
Speaker 4: For me?
Speaker 3: It actually really does save your bottom line. What a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't understand that what really kills, or
Speaker 3: we call it ghost energy inside the house is things
Speaker 3: that are actually plugged in that are actually not being used.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like if you don't have anything plugged into
Speaker 3: the wall, we ternment like ghost energy, were that actually
Speaker 3: that device, whether it's an air fryer or a microwave
Speaker 3: or television or something that even if you just left
Speaker 3: it in and you turn it off, those devices still
Speaker 3: use electricity. And that's probably one of the most common
Speaker 3: things that we see that people just don't know about.
Speaker 3: Where you have something plugged in, you're not using it,
Speaker 3: you're saying, hey, it's off, that device is still using electricity.
Speaker 2: How much.
Speaker 3: You're talking about probably five to maybe eight percent of
Speaker 3: your bill typically a month. One of the other things
Speaker 3: that people don't know that can really reduce the amount
Speaker 3: of energy that is being used in their home is
Speaker 3: understanding the difference between on and off peak times. Most
Speaker 3: people don't know that your house has to work about
Speaker 3: eight times harder between eight am and five pm every day.
Speaker 3: So if you're using the dishwasher or washer and dryer
Speaker 3: during that time, it consumes a ton of energy and
Speaker 3: just makes your energy will go up a lot.
Speaker 2: Why why eight to five? Why would like seven o'clock
Speaker 2: at night be any different than eight to five.
Speaker 3: Because that's when typically most businesses are That's when the
Speaker 3: grid's working the hardness. Because typically when most businesses are
Speaker 3: using a lot of the electricity, so the grid is
Speaker 3: working harder to get energy out to everyone, so it
Speaker 3: makes it more expensive. So if you want to actually
Speaker 3: use less electricity or have to b the lower you
Speaker 3: would want to actually wash your clothes, run the dishwasher,
Speaker 3: do those things before eight am, after a PM, or
Speaker 3: on the weekends. Off peak time is typically anytime where
Speaker 3: business to business day to day are not consuming a
Speaker 3: lot of energy. So that's also the weekends after five
Speaker 3: o'clock before eight am.
Speaker 2: So I'm a stay at home dad. So my wife
Speaker 2: comes out of the office and she says, how can
Speaker 2: you're not doing the laundry? I think after five? Got
Speaker 2: to do it after five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you have an amazing excuse to do it
Speaker 3: after five.
Speaker 2: I gotta do it after five. I'm please. I'm watching
Speaker 2: Sports Center. Of course the TV's on. The TV's on,
Speaker 2: you know, so if I okay, well, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to unplug everything in the house. Obviously, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to go I'm not going to go unplug the TV.
Speaker 2: But we are so guilty of that. I have phone chargers,
Speaker 2: computer printer, my laptop when it's charged, you know, the
Speaker 2: stupid you know band I use at the gym to
Speaker 2: tell me that I've burned five calories. You know, that's
Speaker 2: all over the place. That's amazing. So if I stop
Speaker 2: doing that with things that are accessible, I will see
Speaker 2: a difference in my electric bill.
Speaker 3: Oh. The other common thing that we see a lot
Speaker 3: of times, especially in the New England area because sometimes
Speaker 3: typically homes are older, is not having and this is
Speaker 3: maybe a larger project, but not having well insulation. And
Speaker 3: that's the biggest that's one of the biggest things we
Speaker 3: see across the board. Just sometimes a home, whether it's
Speaker 3: the summer or the winter, if there is energy or
Speaker 3: heat escaping your home through the windowsills or through anything
Speaker 3: throughout the house, your home has to work harder to
Speaker 3: keep everything warmer, to keep everything cool. So one of
Speaker 3: the things that I don't know, if you remember my grandmother,
Speaker 3: you su sin to they I always close the door
Speaker 3: because you're not air conditioning me entire neighborhood.
Speaker 2: A lot of time your heat no mine was My
Speaker 2: dad used to say, stop heating the g D outdoors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so actually grandmother and grandfather were actually correct. You
Speaker 3: want to try to keep as much energy inside your
Speaker 3: house as possible. So if if it's in the wintertime,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest things that we see is when
Speaker 3: the window sills aren't properly insulated and let's like there's
Speaker 3: that cool air that you can still feel. That means
Speaker 3: that your home is having to work harder to keep
Speaker 3: keep the house warm, and so the bills typically go
Speaker 3: up during the wintertime during that if they're using natural
Speaker 3: gas or you're using all electric. And the biggest, the
Speaker 3: biggest culprit is in the summertime, where that that that
Speaker 3: cool air that air conditioning is getting out and it's warming,
Speaker 3: it's it's not keeping the house warm. So that's why
Speaker 3: a lot of times electricity build skyrocket in the summer
Speaker 3: because the house isn't well it's insulated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus the AC's cranking. You know, if you have
Speaker 2: a you know, and my dad would he would, I'll
Speaker 2: never forget, like we have a central a see, and
Speaker 2: because we're spoiled, and we're Americans and we can't live
Speaker 2: without it. And I remember my dad refused to buy
Speaker 2: an air conditioner with not just a simple air conditioner
Speaker 2: that you put in the window, it's say, for the
Speaker 2: fifteen days out of the year or the ten days
Speaker 2: out of the year, you open up the windows, you
Speaker 2: just deal with the heat. Refuse to do it, would
Speaker 2: not do it. And now those of us, we can't
Speaker 2: live without central air or some sort of ex Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nuts. Now, my my, well, my family room is
Speaker 2: a money it's a money pit. I mean I got
Speaker 2: oh it's gorgeous. I got beautiful windows, I got high ceilings,
Speaker 2: and now I'm talking to you, and I just see
Speaker 2: money going out the window. I mean it's no doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean it's great, it's beautiful. But you know, I
Speaker 2: thought that the construction costs were enough, but it's there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. It's and you know, the baseboard
Speaker 2: heat is beneath the windows, and but it's and you
Speaker 2: have high ceilings and that's that's tougher to heat as well.
Speaker 2: You know, forget about it. It's a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, led light bulbs will also. I mean that's
Speaker 3: kind of like well known that'll knock down the bill
Speaker 3: another ten fifteen percent if you do replace everything that's
Speaker 3: most commonly now that everybody knows. But the things again
Speaker 3: that most people don't know is you know, turning off
Speaker 3: your devices that you can that aren't like a headache
Speaker 3: to be able to you know, access and take out.
Speaker 3: And then also just trying to fix any leaks and
Speaker 3: make sure you're homes well in solely we're no heats
Speaker 3: getting out or no cold air is going out.
Speaker 2: That a really really have about a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people don't sometimes realize how hard their buildings
Speaker 3: are working or their homes are working to try to
Speaker 3: keep everything cool or warm.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what I was told by some contractors.
Speaker 2: And my house was built in nineteen seventy nine. It sucks.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a great house, but I mean as
Speaker 2: far as the insulation, I forget about it. It's terrible.
Speaker 2: And it was there was a time. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you take a look at homes that were built in
Speaker 2: the thirties and probably I don't know about the forties,
Speaker 2: but it's built in the thirties, they are better insulated
Speaker 2: and better made than homes that up in the late
Speaker 2: seventies and probably in the fifties after the boom after
Speaker 2: World War Two, because they were putting them up so
Speaker 2: fast that people could move in.
Speaker 3: That is correct. Yeah, the homes were built a lot
Speaker 3: better back then when they started, when we started popularizing
Speaker 3: new major cities, they were just really talking, really worried
Speaker 3: about getting the home up there and not doing what
Speaker 3: they were doing before to keep i mean, using the
Speaker 3: best products. So yeah, you're you're one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2: All right. And also as far as the heat goes,
Speaker 2: you know, put on a sweater, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: just put on a sweater.
Speaker 3: You could do that. A lot of people will have
Speaker 3: the smart thermosets and they will try to set them
Speaker 3: accordingly to like when their home and when not. A
Speaker 3: lot of times when we do these energy audits and
Speaker 3: we look at someone's thermostat, you know, it's running the
Speaker 3: same as it would run if they were home or
Speaker 3: not home. And believe it or not, I know it
Speaker 3: doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's a huge
Speaker 3: culprit as well. Or someone just keeps the ac running
Speaker 3: whether they're home or not home, just so they can
Speaker 3: have that cool five minutes when or they come in
Speaker 3: from the first time in the house. But that just
Speaker 3: waste and waste tons of energy when you do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a new thermostat, you know, because right
Speaker 2: now the only way that works is if I keep
Speaker 2: it on in one section, in one zone.
Speaker 3: They have Yeah, they have great ones now. So like
Speaker 3: what I see a lot of people's, especially in the summer,
Speaker 3: they come with apps now, so you can literally be
Speaker 3: at home and say I'm gonna be home in five minutes,
Speaker 3: have it off all day, and just click it on
Speaker 3: before you get home. That way when you walk in
Speaker 3: the house is cool, But a lot of times we
Speaker 3: do energy on it and we go back and look
Speaker 3: at the thermostat and you say that you've been running
Speaker 3: the same cycle seven days a week for the last
Speaker 3: six months. That's one of the reasons that your bill
Speaker 3: is probably more expensive. Like there needs to be vacation mode,
Speaker 3: it needs to be also things where you can set
Speaker 3: timing is based on where you're going to be home,
Speaker 3: and you're not going to.
Speaker 2: Be home, there's an app for that. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you have just made this. You have just made this
Speaker 2: interview worthwhile. You have earned your money though you're doing
Speaker 2: it for free. I have some more questions for you.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studio on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay Darien for day tonight, CEO of Inertia Resources, the
Speaker 2: Morian Linton, talking about saving energy and the things you
Speaker 2: can do that really just aren't that time consuming and
Speaker 2: quite simple in order to lower your electric bill, like
Speaker 2: unplugging things, which is something I'm going to start doing. Now.
Speaker 2: Let's I don't want to get too political here, but
Speaker 2: what's going on in Canada. We understand ten percent of
Speaker 2: our of our energy in New England comes from Canada
Speaker 2: from Maine, so I think I can understand this. So
Speaker 2: how does what's going on with Trump and Trudeau in
Speaker 2: the negotiation for these tariffs, how does that possibly impact
Speaker 2: our energy situation.
Speaker 3: So it's more or less the tariffs you would think
Speaker 3: it's actually the energy consumption or generation. The energy is
Speaker 3: more the traded commodity versus where it's actually coming from.
Speaker 3: The tariffs are more or less going to affect the
Speaker 3: you know, steel and aluminum that crosses over for the
Speaker 3: infrastructure for our grid. So let's just say, for instance,
Speaker 3: anytime there's down wires a lot of times, we'll get
Speaker 3: things from Mexico, We'll get things from China, we'll get
Speaker 3: things from you know, Canada where and we import those things,
Speaker 3: and creating a tariff will increase not on the actual
Speaker 3: electricity rate, but our distribution costs, which are the other
Speaker 3: fifty percent of the bill. Wherever source and National Grid
Speaker 3: go out and fix things when everything goes down, they
Speaker 3: have to get the they have to get the steel
Speaker 3: and the aluminum and the copper and everything from somewhere.
Speaker 3: So we do tariffs and we put tariffs on that.
Speaker 3: That will increase infrastructure pricing, which it's typically voted on
Speaker 3: by the Department of Public Utility or here in the state,
Speaker 3: and they regulate those things. So it's not anything that's
Speaker 3: going to be an immediate impact on like our bill,
Speaker 3: Like the first day, people think that, hey, their tear
Speaker 3: goes in on the twenty fifth hay with armageddon rate,
Speaker 3: they're about to go up twenty five percent tomorrow. It
Speaker 3: doesn't work like that. It takes a long time for
Speaker 3: those things to go into effect.
Speaker 2: So how does brokering energy work?
Speaker 3: Well, what virtually happens happens is a lot of times
Speaker 3: small and mid size you know, customers don't understand what
Speaker 3: their rights are as far as you know customers. And
Speaker 3: I'll tell you now that we see it based on
Speaker 3: because mass dot gov does an amazing job of letting
Speaker 3: us see computer loa data of people that have switched
Speaker 3: and have not. And when it comes to residents, over
Speaker 3: forty one percent of the state of Massachusetts still does
Speaker 3: not switch. They haven't done anything. Thirty percent of that
Speaker 3: as aggregations where the cities have now said, you know,
Speaker 3: we can see energy price increasing, we're going to lock
Speaker 3: everybody in, and about fifteen to twenty percent of homes
Speaker 3: do it theirselves.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: When across the small businesses, those numbers change dramatically. Where
Speaker 3: you know small businesses they say, you know, it's thirty
Speaker 3: percent of them they take care of themselves. I would
Speaker 3: say about seventeen percent don't do anything, and another fifty
Speaker 3: percent let the city do it. But if you're talking
Speaker 3: to like your large billion dollar companies Fortune one hundreds
Speaker 3: that are publicly traded, ninety eight percent of them are
Speaker 3: managing their energy. They're locking it in because they understand
Speaker 3: that regardless of like who's any administration or what natural
Speaker 3: gas prices are those that's actually the biggest factor. Energy
Speaker 3: has been increasing since nineteen eighty two to four percent
Speaker 3: based on inflation every year. So I tell people that
Speaker 3: when we have these conversations, the only thing that will
Speaker 3: really ever drop energy pricing is a recession, and nobody
Speaker 3: wants that. So just expect that this is always going
Speaker 3: to be a cost that's going to increase a little bit,
Speaker 3: like a like death by apout and cuts. So we
Speaker 3: tell a lot of people to make sure that your
Speaker 3: rate's locked in for the low longest period of time
Speaker 3: that you possibly can, to make sure that you protect
Speaker 3: yourself from future increases, because it's not an if, Like
Speaker 3: if I had the charts, I would show it to you,
Speaker 3: but it's not if the rates are going up or
Speaker 3: if they're going to get a down. It's dramatic trend.
Speaker 3: Every single year two to four percent it increases.
Speaker 2: So I can I call ever lock in.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a bunch of sites where you can actually
Speaker 3: go to mass dot gov and you can go on
Speaker 3: the website and they can give you all the options
Speaker 3: that you can do to You can lock in for
Speaker 3: a year, you can do two years, three years, you
Speaker 3: can do one hundred percent green products. Solars A a
Speaker 3: majing option for homeowners as well if they qualify. So
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of different options to protect yourselves from energy.
Speaker 3: But that that's what we try to tell most people.
Speaker 3: Just not doing anything and just paying your electricity bill
Speaker 3: is not the way to do it. Like if you look,
Speaker 3: if you just looked at your if you could find
Speaker 3: a bill from like twenty ten or twenty eleven, like
Speaker 3: in your filing cabinet, if you did, if you looked
Speaker 3: at it, you don't notice the rates of energy in
Speaker 3: Massachusetts have increased one hundred and fifty four percent in
Speaker 3: the last ten years, and a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: realize that because it's happening slow. Over a certain career.
Speaker 2: Death by a thousand cuts was very appropriate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you need to make sure that you're
Speaker 3: protected that your rate's locked in. But the biggest issue
Speaker 3: that we have in Massachusetts is that when people lock
Speaker 3: into an energy rate, they don't understand that you have
Speaker 3: to renew it after it's over with, and that's so
Speaker 3: that's that's what we see. The biggest confusion we see
Speaker 3: people and that's the biggest complaint that we get from
Speaker 3: new customers, like, Hey, I locked in my rate and
Speaker 3: then it's shot up. I'm not doing that again. Where
Speaker 3: it's like, no, when the energy supplier locks you into
Speaker 3: a year, two years, three years, yeah, you have to
Speaker 3: renew it, and if you don't renew it, they have
Speaker 3: to start purchasing a month to month and that's super expensive.
Speaker 3: And even the state of Massachusetts, the attorney generals here
Speaker 3: have done an amazing job to say, look, if you're
Speaker 3: going to lock in rate, the energy suppliers, by law
Speaker 3: have to send you a little letter at least ninety
Speaker 3: days prior saying that you have to renew it. But
Speaker 3: a lot of times homeowners, business owners, they get the
Speaker 3: leaf live and they throw it away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't right, they don't think they have to
Speaker 2: do anything right.
Speaker 3: They don't think they have to do anything, so they say, oh,
Speaker 3: I got this low rate, it was really great. It
Speaker 3: worked for a year and then it shot up. So
Speaker 3: that's what we see is just understanding that, hey, if
Speaker 3: you lock in for a year, lock in for two years,
Speaker 3: set a little note, set a little reminder, make sure
Speaker 3: that you have to renew, and all these things that
Speaker 3: we talk about in regards to getting your bill lower.
Speaker 3: These are very very small, five second things that it
Speaker 3: takes to do. It's just a lot of people won't
Speaker 3: go through the motion of doing it. Because in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: we have it's I think we're ranked forty seventh in
Speaker 3: the country with it regards to the electricity usage, but
Speaker 3: we have the third highest energy third highest energy rates
Speaker 3: in the entire country. So it's very important that people
Speaker 3: just make sure that they understand that you're getting charged
Speaker 3: a lot. The City of Boston has tried to do
Speaker 3: a really great job of making sure that every one's
Speaker 3: locked in for at least the next year and a half,
Speaker 3: because if they didn't do that, people would be paying
Speaker 3: even higher. But people need to understand that you do
Speaker 3: have options. Small businesses seem to understand that you can
Speaker 3: actually get better rates on your own. If you're demanding
Speaker 3: your capacity tags are pretty high. So homeowners and business
Speaker 3: owners just need to understand that this is something that
Speaker 3: you just don't want to do nothing, because a lot
Speaker 3: of times when we come across business owners every day,
Speaker 3: they're like, well, I wasn't doing nothing, and they look
Speaker 3: and see that their rates seventeen cents and they drop
Speaker 3: it down to twelve and they're like, oh, this is great.
Speaker 3: So it's just giving people the information and understanding what
Speaker 3: their options are.
Speaker 2: How can we be forty seventh in usage.
Speaker 3: The infort it's what you said before, the central air conditioning,
Speaker 3: because we're so high up, you know, that's fifty sixty
Speaker 3: percent of most people's bills, and everything lower than us
Speaker 3: just consumes more energy because of heat. So the other
Speaker 3: two states I believe are believing or not our main
Speaker 3: and New Hampshire, which is I think forty eighth and fiftieth.
Speaker 3: It's just where we're located in regards to latitude.
Speaker 2: So it's cooler.
Speaker 3: Basically, it's a lot cooler, so we don't use as
Speaker 3: much electricity, but we also have the third highest I
Speaker 3: believe energy rates in the country because of all the
Speaker 3: renewable all the renewable things that we have baked into
Speaker 3: our rates. The state of Massachusetts is very proactive and
Speaker 3: making sure that we're as renewable and as green as possible.
Speaker 3: And because of that, I mean, it's amazing for the environment,
Speaker 3: But it does the outcome of that is the rates
Speaker 3: are a little bit.
Speaker 2: Higher when it comes to solar. Are there options now
Speaker 2: so you don't have to have quite frankly, those ugly
Speaker 2: panels on your roof? Correct?
Speaker 3: So yes, what.
Speaker 2: Can you do? Because I think it's cool, but I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not putting those on my roof.
Speaker 3: Well, it just really depends a lot. I mean, Tesla
Speaker 3: has a really great product right now. And I don't
Speaker 3: work with Tesla or anything like that out there, but
Speaker 3: a minute, you know that, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: mean to give him any credit at all for anything,
Speaker 3: but he's.
Speaker 2: Too busy firing everybody in Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they're right. He's doing a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff right now. But I think that a lot of
Speaker 3: people just have to understand. You can get a lot
Speaker 3: of times. I'll even say my mother was really arguing
Speaker 3: with my own father because she would she didn't want
Speaker 3: the solar panels on the back of the yard, and
Speaker 3: he told us, like, how often do you go in
Speaker 3: the backyard anyway? I'm usually the one cutting the ground.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people don't like it, but it's
Speaker 3: in the front. It's more of a you know, cosmetic thing.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times that people start to see
Speaker 3: the bill drop you. It's one of those things where
Speaker 3: you get used to it after two weeks. It's not
Speaker 3: something that you think of and you look at once
Speaker 3: the bills start to go down.
Speaker 2: So how to you how much can solo save you?
Speaker 3: Oh? At first, if you're a business, we have we
Speaker 3: do projects all over the world. Just really depends on
Speaker 3: the amount of roof space that you have contingent to
Speaker 3: your bill. You can look at over twenty years, saving
Speaker 3: fifty sixty percent on energy costs over a twenty year period.
Speaker 3: Sometimes businesses can get up to seventy five eighty percent
Speaker 3: on just the supply costs. Because what happens is, if
Speaker 3: you ever look at your energy bill, it's broken up
Speaker 3: into two separate parts. The first part is your supply
Speaker 3: and the second part is your delivery. Yeah, so the delivery.
Speaker 3: So I'm just to give you a little bit of
Speaker 3: a why they do that. Ever, Source and National Grid
Speaker 3: are what a lot of people think of them as
Speaker 3: generation electricity companies, and they're not in our business. They're
Speaker 3: called service providers, which means they don't make energy. They
Speaker 3: just do the metiorating, the servicing, and the maintenance. So
Speaker 3: that's why the bill's broken up into two separate parts
Speaker 3: because they really don't make money off the supply. They
Speaker 3: kind of buy it at costs, so that's why it's
Speaker 3: broken up like that. So whenever you do whenever you
Speaker 3: do solar, solar not only saves you money because you
Speaker 3: lock in a kilowire rate for twenty years versus one year,
Speaker 3: but it draws that delivery usage down dramatically depending on
Speaker 3: your roof space. So if I can get seventy percent
Speaker 3: offset on my house, that means my bill is going
Speaker 3: to go down, my usage is going to go down
Speaker 3: seventy percent, and I'm gonna lock in my rate for
Speaker 3: twenty years. Because a lot of people just don't understand.
Speaker 3: They think they have to pay for it a lot
Speaker 3: of times. You know, the industry has changed where you
Speaker 3: can get a lot of time solar. And again I
Speaker 3: don't sell home solar panels at all. So I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to plug anybody to do solar at all. But
Speaker 3: when you can lock in your rate for that long
Speaker 3: and you know that you're going to be in that
Speaker 3: home right when you're in your four, you're five or six,
Speaker 3: and you're paying a rate from five or six years ago,
Speaker 3: you're way ahead at that point. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: people right now that do that have solar in their
Speaker 3: homes where you couldn't pay them to take it off.
Speaker 2: Would you be confident in New England living with just
Speaker 2: a solar house?
Speaker 3: Oh, because I have a crazy thing in my mind
Speaker 3: that's some way your energy would run out. No. No, No.
Speaker 3: A lot of times they they do all that when
Speaker 3: they're building out the unit, so it's very easy for
Speaker 3: them to look at your electricity bill. They typically sit
Speaker 3: it in the order where we call a letter of
Speaker 3: authorization where we go back and look at your last two, three, four,
Speaker 3: five years of usage. So they kind of plan with
Speaker 3: a little bit more to make sure that that energy
Speaker 3: is covered. And now, if it's a certain type of
Speaker 3: customer with a huge home, you can even put a
Speaker 3: little battery storage unit on there that actually and that's
Speaker 3: if you really want to get aggressive where you can
Speaker 3: concurtail energy where you can remember what I talked about earlier,
Speaker 3: where electricity prices are higher between eight am and eight
Speaker 3: p r. Yeah, so what a lot of people that
Speaker 3: are really really advanced, what they'll do is they'll take
Speaker 3: the energy from the sun and then turn that battery
Speaker 3: on from eight to five a clock and all the
Speaker 3: energy will come from the battery and not from the
Speaker 3: grid during that and then that gets the bill really, really,
Speaker 3: really really low. So that's another option that a lot
Speaker 3: of commercial like those are things that you're your your
Speaker 3: your fortune one hundred. That's what they do. They'll store
Speaker 3: the energy, they'll collect the energy, store, use the energy
Speaker 3: between peak times so they're not getting deemed during that
Speaker 3: point in time, and then turn the energy back on
Speaker 3: and get the energy from the grid during off peak
Speaker 3: times when it's a lot cheaper.
Speaker 2: You know, back where I grew up in Maine, one house,
Speaker 2: my dad's house where he grew up, I heard these
Speaker 2: wookoo wooh woooh wooko, and I looked up and literally
Speaker 2: up the road on a mountain was a windmill. And
Speaker 2: I looked like something this is twenty years ago, maybe
Speaker 2: at Ago, I said, Dad, that looks like something from
Speaker 2: out of space.
Speaker 3: What what is.
Speaker 2: Going on here? And it's like three or four of
Speaker 2: them and you start to say, now, obviously it was
Speaker 2: a whole thing with nantucket. Does that work?
Speaker 3: So the virtue of the way that energy works is
Speaker 3: that think of energy like being created like a boiling
Speaker 3: pot of water. What they virtually do is that they
Speaker 3: they have to get the water that creates steam that steams,
Speaker 3: then hits a turnbine, knocks off all the protons and
Speaker 3: then at what all the things you got left at
Speaker 3: that point is electrons, goes into a copper wire and
Speaker 3: then it goes into the grid. What the wind farm
Speaker 3: is doing is doing the same thing is getting that
Speaker 3: turbine moving and then knocking off the protons, creating more electronics.
Speaker 3: So it's just a cleaner way to do it without
Speaker 3: using natural gas.
Speaker 2: So could we could we as a society survive on
Speaker 2: solar and wind?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: You probably won't believe this, but I could probably power
Speaker 3: the entire United States with about a quarter of Utah
Speaker 3: with one hundred percent solar.
Speaker 2: What no way? So you're telling me if you put
Speaker 2: solar panels in a quarter of the area of Utah.
Speaker 3: You could power I could probably power most of the
Speaker 3: USS that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But we don't do it. Why because the because oil
Speaker 2: and lobbyists.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a bunch of different reasons why, Like
Speaker 3: oil and gas lobbyists are always going to and it's
Speaker 3: actually true. I don't I don't not agree with it.
Speaker 3: You need to have a backup, Like you can't just
Speaker 3: do it. So you got to have a backup. You know,
Speaker 3: natural gas is not a horrible way to create energy.
Speaker 3: That's like sixty percent of the way that we do
Speaker 3: it now. But as a society, what we've started to
Speaker 3: do is we've tried to import other things like nuclear.
Speaker 3: We've tried to and it's not like Bart Simpson like
Speaker 3: everybody thinks it is. Actually nuclear is one of the
Speaker 3: cleanest versions of electricity that you can have, and they're
Speaker 3: they're working on different things right now where they can
Speaker 3: use that energy to be sure that we can create
Speaker 3: more renewable energy around the world. And I worked with
Speaker 3: some of the largest energy suppliers in the world, and
Speaker 3: so it's just making sure that you can understand what
Speaker 3: those things are. But we do need to have a backup.
Speaker 3: It just can't some one hundred percent come from solar panels.
Speaker 3: We could move to that like one day, but just
Speaker 3: right now probably it's not foreseeable that would happen in
Speaker 3: our lifetime, but is it possible. Yes, if Elon got
Speaker 3: to open up Mars, I'm producer. He's not going to
Speaker 3: open up natural gas. He's going to use all solar
Speaker 3: panels and then we find.
Speaker 2: Well listen, So the more I give yourself a plug
Speaker 2: CEO of a Urtier Resources, why would somebody call you?
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 3: If you're smart? We represent some of the best brands
Speaker 3: in New England. We've marketed for, We've consulted for the
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics, the Boston Bruins, New Balance Corporate. People that
Speaker 3: own businesses would reach out to us if they were
Speaker 3: looking at lowering costs and be able to come up
Speaker 3: with a better purchasing strategy to lower their cost and
Speaker 3: we've done that for We've been in business for over
Speaker 3: six years. I've been in the business for twenty over
Speaker 3: twenty years. We have over forty five hundred clients in
Speaker 3: twenty thousand meters in Canada, the United States and in Mexico.
Speaker 3: And the reason I actually live here in Boston now
Speaker 3: is because I moved up here just because I really
Speaker 3: believed in this market and I saw that a lot
Speaker 3: of people were taking advantage of and that's one of
Speaker 3: the reasons we've done so well here.
Speaker 2: Well the Celtics League Cleveland right now in ninety five
Speaker 2: eighty four, Well quick late in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 2: I do have to let you go. We have to break.
Speaker 2: But I do remember I think when you were building
Speaker 2: the new arena for the Warriors that the escalators were
Speaker 2: powered by solar.
Speaker 3: I think or I didn't hear that, but I would
Speaker 3: not be surprised. We're about to partner with one group
Speaker 3: that does most of the stadiums around the world, and
Speaker 3: then that's what they're all looking at doing, just because
Speaker 3: getting energy from grit is just super expensive and solar
Speaker 3: long is just going to save, you know, save money.
Speaker 2: Well, my kids are gonna yell at me when I
Speaker 2: go home and I go on this tangent, and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna blame you. I thank you Morey Linton, CEO
Speaker 2: of a nursing Resources Google them check it out. Good stuff.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 3: No problem. I have a great day.
Speaker 2: I have a good day. Okay, things you can do
Speaker 2: to save on your energy bell. I mean, I mind
Speaker 2: the other day I got it and I was like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, and you just gotta pay attention, unplug stuff.
Speaker 2: Let's you know, and see what you can do. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna put a windmill on my backyard, and I'm
Speaker 2: not into the solar panels, so I'm kind of shooting
Speaker 2: myself on the foot of that. Okay, coming up at
Speaker 2: ten o'clock here, ladies and gentlemen on WBZ examining political polarization.
Speaker 2: It's just a fancy term for why can't we just
Speaker 2: use common sense? That's a ten on WBZ.
Speaker 1: NI Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Gary Tangling for Dantonight. Uh six point seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty is the number if you want to jump
Speaker 2: on board here for a second. I'm gonna do a
Speaker 2: quick little turn into sports, but not in the way
Speaker 2: you think. The Celtics lead the Cleveland Cavaliers. They are
Speaker 2: on the road and I just had the app up
Speaker 2: here on my phone a minute ago, but they are
Speaker 2: up by like nine points. I mean, that's Cleveland's one
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the league. I think maybe
Speaker 2: they have the best record in the league right now.
Speaker 2: So the Celtics lead in ninety seven eighty nine with
Speaker 2: six twenty to go in the fourth on the road
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. So I find that infuriating. You may say, Garret,
Speaker 2: why are you pissed off that the Celtics are winning? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm pissed off because the way professional sports is right
Speaker 2: now is that not every game counts. Not every game,
Speaker 2: And I understand from a fan, not from a fan perspective,
Speaker 2: from a coach perspective or a player perspective. And even
Speaker 2: my friends in the media, see, I don't consider myself
Speaker 2: part of the sports media anymore. I'm not even part
Speaker 2: of the media. I come in here and I shoot
Speaker 2: my mouth off when Dan wants to take a day off,
Speaker 2: and I talk to some people I think could be interesting.
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm not in the media. I'm out. But
Speaker 2: even friends of mine in the media, when I say, man,
Speaker 2: the Celtics suck last night. They didn't even look like
Speaker 2: they wanted to be there, you know. And I've talked
Speaker 2: to my friends Jeff Goodman and Bob Ryan and they'll say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, but they'll be there in the end for
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So yeah, but I watched the game tonight.
Speaker 2: I watched the damn game tonight Sunday night, six o'clock.
Speaker 2: I tune in watch the game Friday night, seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: They take on the worst team in the league, New Orleans.
Speaker 2: They win by two. They take on teams that they
Speaker 2: should blow out, and they don't care. I'm gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: load manager, and I'm gonna arrest people. I mean, the
Speaker 2: Celtics have lost to teams this year that there's no
Speaker 2: way in hell they should be losing to. But what
Speaker 2: I hear as well, you know, okay, they'll be all right,
Speaker 2: they'll make a run for the playoffs. I don't care
Speaker 2: about that. I care about the game I'm watching now.
Speaker 2: And my daughter said to me, Dad, can we go
Speaker 2: to a Celtics game. Well, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2: When I worked for NBC Sports Boston, and there were
Speaker 2: certain privileges, and my kids got to sit in the
Speaker 2: front row, and they got to sit in suites, and
Speaker 2: they you know, they got the meat players and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. I have nothing to do with them anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm a regular citizen. I got to pay for tickets.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying five six, seven, hundred bucks to go
Speaker 2: to an NBA game when the teams might not show up.
Speaker 2: And I remember with the Red Sox once a year
Speaker 2: we would come down from Rumford, Maine. And I had
Speaker 2: an uncle, my uncle Billy Maher. He lived in Foxborough
Speaker 2: in the shadows of the old Shaeffer Stadium on Moore
Speaker 2: Street as a matter of fact, and he worked for
Speaker 2: Kodak and he would get tickets to a Red Sox
Speaker 2: game for us, and we went when they played the
Speaker 2: Oakland A's and Louis Tiant was on the mound. And
Speaker 2: at the time, my favorite player was Reggie Smith. Yes,
Speaker 2: Reggie Smith did play for the Red Sox before he
Speaker 2: was traded to the Cardinals, and I think the Red
Speaker 2: Sox got John Tutor in return, is that right? And
Speaker 2: then Smith went on to play right field for the
Speaker 2: Dodgers when they were taking out of the Yankees. It
Speaker 2: seemed to have a year for the World Series. But
Speaker 2: he started in Boston and I wanted to see Reggie Well,
Speaker 2: Reggie Smith had the day off. I was pissed. I
Speaker 2: was pissed. It was my one time to see the
Speaker 2: Red Sox that year, and I was gonna see Reggie Smith.
Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson, by the way, hit a home run in
Speaker 2: the third ending off of TIAT that still hasn't come down.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So when I look at this now,
Speaker 2: at load management, it really pisces me off. It really does.
Speaker 2: The average working family cannot afford to go to a
Speaker 2: professional sports game. They can't. I mean, I looked at it.
Speaker 2: Look I've done. Okay, my daughter wants to go for
Speaker 2: a Celtics game and to sit in the seat, you know,
Speaker 2: I have to a lot of them. You have to
Speaker 2: go to the second market, and you can pay eighty bucks,
Speaker 2: ninety bucks, you're up to two hundred bucks probably. Oh
Speaker 2: with parking, forget it, that's fifty bucks. So I'm probably
Speaker 2: up to two hundred and fifty bucks to sit in
Speaker 2: the final five rows of the garden, right, And I've
Speaker 2: been spoiled, I gotta tell you. You know, I had
Speaker 2: a great yeah, a great run on Bend to ten,
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, on the field, after the Super bowls parades,
Speaker 2: access to everything. I just can't. I'm not gonna spend
Speaker 2: two hunred and fifty bucks to sit five rows back,
Speaker 2: you know, and from the from the top row. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna do it. I don't know how people can
Speaker 2: do it. Families save money. We're gonna go to this game.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to see the Celtics and the Lakers,
Speaker 2: or we're gonna go see the Celtics. Maybe they got
Speaker 2: tickets to the Pelicans. They show up, Jalleen Brown's not
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown's not playing that thing or such and such
Speaker 2: as sitting out that game, or maybe the team just
Speaker 2: doesn't care that game. I don't follow the Bruins enough.
Speaker 2: Somebody would have to help me out with that. The NFL,
Speaker 2: it only happens at the end of the season when
Speaker 2: they want to rest players in week seventeen or whatever.
Speaker 2: The NBA is, it's a scam. It's it's embarrassing. You've
Speaker 2: got somebody that goes to a game and the star
Speaker 2: players not playing, or Lebron needs to sit out or
Speaker 2: Lucas you know, load management tonight, or they don't feel
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? If I'm
Speaker 2: a parent when I buy tickets like that, I'm like,
Speaker 2: which team's gonna show up? Is this gonna be worth it?
Speaker 2: It sucks. It's say I won't do it. I will
Speaker 2: not do it. I'm not gonna spend that kind of
Speaker 2: money to go see the Celtics, a team that I
Speaker 2: still love, a team that I still follow, because they
Speaker 2: might not show up that night, or they may not play,
Speaker 2: and nobody's saying anything about it. The media around here,
Speaker 2: my brethren, they don't say anything. Well, you know, it's
Speaker 2: a long season. They need to take time off just
Speaker 2: as long as they're ready for the playoffs. Well, there's
Speaker 2: eighty two games where people pay a lot of money
Speaker 2: to see, and the players don't care, and neither do
Speaker 2: the owners. They don't gotta take a break. I gotta,
Speaker 2: I gotta breathe Who. By the way, we will lighten
Speaker 2: up at eleven o'clock talk Super Bowl lads. I promise
Speaker 2: I'll be in a better mood to it by then.
Speaker 2: Gary Tank away for Dan Ray on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on w b Z the news.
Speaker 2: Radio, and welcome back. Who would have thought that the
Speaker 2: mayor race between Michelle Who and Josh Kraft would turn
Speaker 2: into a mud slinging event. Oh this is gonna get good.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are two very nice people. I know. Josh.
Speaker 2: I said this last night. I have not met Meriwu.
Speaker 2: It seems that she has very good intentions. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, according to public record, Josh has donated
Speaker 2: to her campaign in the past, but now he's not
Speaker 2: happy with what's happening. So he said when announcing his
Speaker 2: campaign that Mayor Wu has not risen to the challenge.
Speaker 2: In fact, what he wants to do to make MBTA
Speaker 2: free for Boston residents, to put in place of rank
Speaker 2: control program, to put in place a green new deal
Speaker 2: for Boston schools, and he says she's oh for three,
Speaker 2: says the number one challenge facing our residence is access
Speaker 2: to housing that regular people can afford. Production under Mayor
Speaker 2: Wu has ground to a dead hault. Well, he real
Speaker 2: estate's nuts. I mean, it's just it's crazy, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people will pay a lot of money to
Speaker 2: live in Boston, and for just regular folks that just
Speaker 2: grew up here maybe generationally live here, they get priced out.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it, there's no question. But I mean,
Speaker 2: Josh Krastf is a very smart person. They're smart, they
Speaker 2: both ought, they're both very listen. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: know Josh, I like him. I'm not voting, so I'm
Speaker 2: not going to tell you who to vote for. But
Speaker 2: I did find what mahor Wu had to sit in
Speaker 2: rebuttal to Josh announcing his candidacy. I found this very interesting.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, rob Bro.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a little surprised that someone who's never
Speaker 5: even voted for mayor or city councilor before in Boston
Speaker 5: feels like he's ready to lead the city. But we
Speaker 5: will get into more of that as we go, and
Speaker 5: eager to engage on all that the city needs and
Speaker 5: represents and highlights.
Speaker 2: Ding ding baby, the gloves are off. But what will
Speaker 2: be nice to see in this race, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: they will debate and I will watch, is we will
Speaker 2: have two political candidates that actually discuss the issues, as
Speaker 2: opposed to some dude running around Washington Batman and Robin
Speaker 2: there wanting to shut down every Tom Dick and Harry agency.
Speaker 2: You know, Josh have to man, Michelle. They're not going
Speaker 2: to go out and say, hey, you know what, let's
Speaker 2: take over the Gaza Strip and put up a parking
Speaker 2: lot or a holiday inn or a Trump casino. We're
Speaker 2: actually gonna have two political candidates that are smart people,
Speaker 2: and I think of doing it for the right reasons.
Speaker 2: I mean, we all know Josh. He doesn't. It's not
Speaker 2: like he't worried about where his next meal is coming from.
Speaker 2: And I think that the Woos are fine too. I
Speaker 2: don't know her financial situation. They're both very smart people.
Speaker 2: I think the city is lucky to have both of them.
Speaker 2: All Right, let's get Jack and Newton. I think is
Speaker 2: something to say this Jack. You're gonna make it quick, buddy,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 4: Well, the question is he has to prove to the
Speaker 4: citizens of Boston what why is different from her? What
Speaker 4: separates him?
Speaker 2: That's a good question, man, I don't you know. They
Speaker 2: seem to be very similar in philosophy. I mean, Josh
Speaker 2: is a guy that's pro educ I think he wants
Speaker 2: for the school board as opposed to being appointed. You
Speaker 2: have to run for school board. Uh. He's definitely pro charity.
Speaker 2: He wants to help housing, he wants to help people.
Speaker 2: That's a good question, Jack, I mean I think I
Speaker 2: think what he's what he's saying is that Mayor Wu
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to get things done that need to
Speaker 2: be done. Why will he be able to do it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, he kind of be like Trump you know,
Speaker 4: he didn't have any experience either I'm doing. But he
Speaker 4: was able, he was practical, and he said he's just
Speaker 4: let's get the job done. I think that would be
Speaker 4: his strongest suit is I'm going to get things done.
Speaker 4: I'm going to deal with the White Stadium and I'm
Speaker 4: going to deal with this. I think taxes, commercial problems,
Speaker 4: empty buildings downtown. I think he's probably got a better
Speaker 4: handle on and he knows how to talk for the business.
Speaker 2: Well, Jack, you just when I got to cut you off,
Speaker 2: and and and thank you. Okay, I'm it's a very
Speaker 2: good call. I don't want to get into who you
Speaker 2: should vote for because I don't know mariwou well enough.
Speaker 2: The only thing I can tell you about Josh is
Speaker 2: he can talk to anybody. And there is ties to
Speaker 2: the business community there through his family. Well that help.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Vote for who you want to vote for.
Speaker 2: I am going to talk about something I am very
Speaker 2: passionate on, and it is the political swings in America,
Speaker 2: from generation to generation, from decade to decade, from term
Speaker 2: to term. It drives me crazy and it's the reason
Speaker 2: we're in this mess today because we have a guy
Speaker 2: running around Washington, say that he's going to buy the
Speaker 2: Gaza strip, and his boy Wonder wants to shut down
Speaker 2: the Department of Education. That's next on WBZ.