WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:04.879 This should be the cold open, because this is actually like, 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:06.120 what are these guys laughing about? 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:08.640 This is great? I gotta listen to this whole thing, you. 4 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:12.960 Know, right, all right, think think I'm still in I'm 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.679 still in programming meeting mode here, you're coming. 6 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:17.280 Well, how about this? Let me let me just do it. 7 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.960 Let me take a crack at Yeah, this podcast that 8 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.160 we have done now fifty plus episodes, I feel like 9 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:32.439 you and I are kind of developing a familiarity over 10 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.359 what is going to slap and what is it is 11 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:37.679 not going to slap for each other? 12 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.880 Do you find yourself then in the least weird way 13 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:42.799 I can possibly ask this question, do you. 14 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:49.079 Think even when it's like something that I don't think 15 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.399 you're into that, Like when we're watching Nuremberg, I was 16 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.679 even thinking of like Commonos isn't gonna like this at all? 17 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:55.880 Yeah, you know what I mean. 18 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.799 And then and I'm like, and then I watched stuff 19 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.840 that like you kind of turned me on to, and 20 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.640 and I'm like, I'm like kind of guessing as like, Okay, 21 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:10.640 is this yes, this is his genre, but is this 22 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.319 his type of genre? Lauren Michaels always did this in SNL, 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:18.400 like it's like talking about a sketch. Yes, it gotta laugh, 24 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:20.799 but did it get the right kind of laugh? 25 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:21.400 Oh? Sure? 26 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.159 Yeah? So this this is a horror, but was it 27 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:26.480 the right kind of horror for you? And I feel 28 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:31.400 like the way that you laid out while you loved 29 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.719 Ready or Not the first one so much, we're reviewing 30 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:39.719 Ready or Not too here I come in this podcast. 31 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.359 I felt like it was going to be difficult for 32 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.280 you to like this one as much as the other one. 33 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.319 And I feel like this was a different movie than 34 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.840 what we saw in the first one too, do you? 35 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.959 I do believe that this was a different movie. 36 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.120 It was a different I mean, it was similar formula, 37 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.599 but it was it was a different this stakes were different, Uh, 38 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:05.359 they were much higher and I think it got to 39 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:07.079 be more hokey, right. 40 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.599 I was going to say it was higher, but somehow 41 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:10.960 also less serious, less serious time. 42 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:14.520 And it was And it was really expansive, like they 43 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.759 really expanded on this whole Now you see now you 44 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.719 see me, I'm gonna I'm gonna do that multiple times, 45 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.240 Ready or Not. They expanded on this whole universe that 46 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.319 it wasn't just one family, This is. 47 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:30.120 A whole different this is a whole big like not 48 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.840 a click what do you call it? Cult? Yes, the 49 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:34.759 whole big cult that was behind this. 50 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.960 Yeah. And I'll be honest with you, man, I found 51 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.280 myself because you were spot on, and I used a 52 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.360 couple of examples during our ties on Outside the Box. 53 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:45.560 I said, uh, this is prior to you watching it. 54 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.360 Yeah, And I think and I could tell though already, 55 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.680 just based on the trailer I used. I think Megan 56 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.360 is an example, but I think the ultimate example is 57 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.680 Guardians of the Galaxy. I was so unsold about the 58 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.159 first Guardians that I did even see it in theaters. 59 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.080 I was like a talking tree in Raccoon. Okay, I 60 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.280 realized Marvel's been good, but they've clearly Yeah, of course 61 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.840 they clearly have overstepped with this one, and I think 62 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.439 they're getting a little too far out there. Flash forward 63 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.199 to me catching it five months after the fact, thinking 64 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.319 it was brilliant. I was like, this is fantastic. 65 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.759 You know what's funny about that is is like they've 66 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.960 made three Guardians of the Galaxy, and if you looked 67 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.719 at the first one like well, this will never work, 68 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.479 and yet they made one Eternals and you're like, oh wow, 69 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:29.280 this is gonna be great. 70 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.680 It was super epic because they earned it, because like, 71 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:33.520 they earned that kind of trust, and. 72 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:36.879 Now it's it's like an abomination. Everybody hates that. You know, Well, yeah, 73 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.479 they'll never be in eternals. 74 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.080 Too, there won't be. Even though I didn't really mind 75 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.560 the first one, I liked it. Yeah, I say all 76 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.159 that to say, though, the second Guardians of the Galaxy 77 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.520 is a fine movie. But after going from well I 78 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:50.840 don't want to see that, that's stupid to oh my god, 79 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.159 that was the best Star Wars movie I've ever seen 80 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:54.960 in my life. And it's not even a Star. 81 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.560 Wars Star Wars movie. I think it's a great Father's 82 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:58.080 Day movie. 83 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.400 The second one, second one, Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. 84 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.759 Don't even get me started with that. But but I 85 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.039 say all that to say that, like the second one, 86 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.680 while on its own, was a fine movie. The jokes 87 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:12.560 felt more forced, the chemistry while yeah, I felt like 88 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.199 everywhere it was because they tried to take the formula 89 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.879 from the first one that was so unique, so fresh, 90 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.480 and so new, and they just kind of tried to 91 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:26.040 superimpose it onto a new story. And that's basically what 92 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.839 we dealt with here. I mean, we can spoil the 93 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:29.879 first ready or not, right, because that's been out. 94 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.279 So let's just get the gist of this. 95 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.680 Basically, this is a woman who marries into a family, 96 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:42.240 and this family has been blessed by Satan with ungodly riches. Okay, 97 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.240 but every time somebody is you know, every time there's 98 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.319 a new family member, they have to play a game 99 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:51.120 this family owns, like this board game. 100 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.439 Yeah, they're basically what was the main one that did 101 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.360 like Monopoly and has Milton Bradleyeah, yeah, exactly, they're basically. 102 00:04:58.079 --> 00:04:59.120 Basically Melton Bradley. 103 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.639 And so they have to play a game and and 104 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:06.319 and if the game comes out like chess or checkers 105 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.160 or whatever, nothing happens. But the game, if it's Hide 106 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.839 and Seek, the one that's randomly selected, then basically they 107 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.199 have to kill the new person in the family before 108 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.279 sunrise or they all die. The whole family dies. So 109 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:19.439 that's the gist of the movie. 110 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:23.160 But the important part of that is that you spend 111 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.480 the entire movie thinking they are nuts. You're like, Okay, 112 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.120 obviously Satan doesn't have to Yeah. At no point, ever, 113 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.920 oh I did not cross my mind that they actually 114 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.079 had to kill her. I was like, Okay, so these 115 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:37.879 guys are gonna be nuts and there's not going to 116 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:40.920 be like that's and then the ultimate climax of the movie, 117 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.759 you're like, oh no, it quite literally is satan. 118 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.560 Well well quite frankly, they didn't. They didn't know either, 119 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.120 Like the husband of the sister, I think it was. 120 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:52.079 He's like, see, I knew it. I knew it was 121 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.079 all bs like this isn't real and all of a sudden, right, So, 122 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.399 but I was thinking of that. It was still like, 123 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:58.560 you know, there's something there. 124 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.920 See. That was why I liked it so much is 125 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.040 because the way they explode in the first one, because 126 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:04.720 it's just like they don't do what they're supposed to 127 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.199 do and they literally explode into little pieces and it's 128 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.839 so graphic and so over the top and in my opinion, 129 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.439 so unforeseeable that I was like, oh, so this is 130 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:16.160 this is a good movie. I didn't realize I was 131 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.680 watching a movie that's this good. I say that to say. 132 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.120 So, what did you think was gonna happen at the 133 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.079 end as you're watching this? 134 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.079 I didn't know if they was just going to be 135 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.040 like an awkward they go their separate ways or whatever 136 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.360 the situation was. But it kind of lent itself to 137 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.319 like because they were all so eccentric and so strange, 138 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.160 and you were just like, oh, so these guys are 139 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.040 just kind of chalking it up to that, And. 140 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:40.800 Like I didn't think they were that eccentric. 141 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:44.279 Oh yeah, Adam Brodie's character, all of them, No, I 142 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.920 didn't see that some of them. Yeah, But like I 143 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.959 thought Andy McDowell and Henry is it Serny Cherney guy 144 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.079 from Mission Impossible, Yeah, I thought they were pretty normal. 145 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:00.920 Like the one unhinged one was the. 146 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.160 The ant, Yeah, the ant was up there. The cokehead 147 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:06.360 sister was you know, yeah, and like you know, the 148 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.959 other sister as well with the heavy set husband who 149 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.560 like she was kind of cold. But I mean, like 150 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.680 when you look at all those I guess my main 151 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.800 problem with it is this movie just took all of 152 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.879 those parts and recycled them. Nothing new is going to happen. 153 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:25.040 But that's that's a sequel. That's what a sequel is. See. 154 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.560 I think we are in a new era. And now 155 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:29.920 we've never talked about this, but I genuinely believe and 156 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.720 it's not new meaning the last couple of years, but 157 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.439 our adult life. I think the idea that something is 158 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.680 a sequel no longer guarantees law of diminishing returns anymore. 159 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:44.279 I expect to go see second and even third movies 160 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:48.519 that find a way to intrigue me more. I I'll 161 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.680 get me Winter Soldier over First Avenger any day of 162 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.639 the week, you know what I mean? Give me a 163 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.199 if I thought about Dark Knight versus Batman begins, and 164 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:58.879 I'm sure if I thought long enough, I could get 165 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.759 outside a superhero movies. But there's play of examples, even 166 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.839 Mission Impossible seven and eight. I go into those expecting 167 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.839 to one up what was happening in Mission Impossible two 168 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:09.240 and three? 169 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.639 Like okay, But can I just say what all those 170 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.360 films that you just mentioned have in comment? 171 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:14.879 What's that? 172 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.160 They were all planned? They were all planned sequels. 173 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.600 Do you think they expected dead reckoning and final reckoning 174 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.800 when they were doing the one with Philip Seymour Hoffman 175 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:24.519 in two thousand Sex. 176 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.319 That was a third one, dude, that was a third 177 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.360 one Mission Impossible and Tom Cruise wasn't going anywhere like this. 178 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:32.559 That was a franchise at that point. 179 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.759 Once you hit three, you are a franchise, right, And 180 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.559 so so my point at like Marvel, uh you mentioned 181 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.480 like this is All and the Nolan trilogy. 182 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.440 It was always gonna be a trilogy. 183 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.000 This one, I think because of the success of it, 184 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.480 and it did pretty well. The first one didn't. Yeah, 185 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.519 I think like, hey, let's do a second one. But 186 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.320 like and when you don't have that whole story board, 187 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.320 that whole arc planned out, things get a little sloppy. 188 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.600 But are you a Planet of the original Planet of 189 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:02.559 the Apes guy, like. 190 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.240 Charles Heston, Yeah, I mean I remember seeing it like 191 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:07.759 forty years ago and it was okay. 192 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:09.960 So there were five of them and they all tell 193 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.320 one long story that the kind of wraps in on 194 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.039 itself with time travel and whatnot. But you know, it 195 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:16.960 does a whole story. 196 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:18.919 You're talking about the five of them, like with Wahlberg 197 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:21.480 and no, no, no, I'm talking five just with Heston, 198 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.120 and you know the ones that come after that, but 199 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:24.919 not with Wahlberg. 200 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.879 But there's like five from that era, you know, Planet 201 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.000 of the Apes, Beneath the Planet, Conquest for the Planet, battles, 202 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:34.279 so and so forth. They tell one long story. But 203 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.240 by the time you get the Planet of the Apes four, 204 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:38.759 you watch them blow up a tree and then you 205 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:41.559 watch them blow up that same tree fifteen times because 206 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.519 they're trying to cut costs. And I know it was 207 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.639 fifteen different explosions, Like there was an aspect growing up 208 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.919 on eighties whrror you expect Friday the Thirteenth, Part seven 209 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.279 to suck more than Friday the Thirteenth, Part one. When 210 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:55.960 I go to see you Ready or Not? When I 211 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.159 saw Megan two point zero, I fully expected that to 212 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.080 be better than the first. I fully expected Ready or Not. 213 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:03.799 And I'll be real with you, man, I was sitting 214 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.960 there about sixty percent of the way through this one, 215 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.120 and I was thinking to myself, I kind of wish 216 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.759 we chose to see the other movie. That's basically the 217 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.279 same plot. They're going to kill us or they want 218 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.559 to kill us, whatever that movie is that's out right now, 219 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.360 basically the same plot, but new characters, new actress, new 220 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:20.879 new story, all that, Jazz. 221 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:22.159 I'm sitting there, hold. 222 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.240 On, hold on, that's that's an original one. That's not 223 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:25.879 a sequel to something that's all. 224 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:27.639 They want to kill us or whatever. Yeah, No, that's 225 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.759 a whole, completely unique storyline. And I'm sitting there because 226 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.000 I had that affinity for Ready or not because I 227 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:35.759 liked it so much. I was like, no, we got 228 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.240 to see ready or not too Whereas sixty percent of 229 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:39.720 the way through, I'm like, ah, son of a gun, you. 230 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.399 Know what, I didn't mean to see this. At what 231 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:42.320 point did you kind of? 232 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.919 Yeah? Right after The best scene in the movie is 233 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:48.519 the turnaround scene when Turnaround is playing the song and 234 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:50.919 things are happening, We'll turn around playing. I'm like, ah, 235 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.240 this is fun. This reminds me of the first one. 236 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.480 And other than that, that was like the only time 237 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:57.919 after that the movie sucked. The rest of the movie. 238 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:01.639 After that, the movie sucked. But that scene gave me 239 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:03.080 a little bit of hope. And when it got out 240 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:04.639 of it and I saw the trajectory we were on, 241 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:06.279 I was like, we should have just saw they want 242 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:06.840 to kill us. 243 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:08.759 Yeah, it was. 244 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.320 It was tough because you're you're balancing by the way, 245 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.440 Megan mathriegan two point zero. 246 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:16.879 That was also not a planned sequel, right. 247 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.559 Yeah, exactly. That was Oh who saw this coming? Uh? 248 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.639 Did you see the Nobody sequel sucked? Yeah? It was terrible. 249 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:25.360 It was atrocious. I was like, I can't believe they 250 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.399 made this. I'm like, actually I can, because no one expected. 251 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.159 You watched the first one, Yeah, it was great, Okay, 252 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.200 it was great. This is with Bob odenk I'm thinking 253 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.399 of Yeah, and I've never seen an action movie like 254 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.080 that where he beats the crap out of five people 255 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.279 in the bus and then it immediately goes to like 256 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.000 a very heartfelt and well acted scene between him and 257 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.440 his life, Like you don't get this in action movies 258 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.200 very often. This is a nice blend. Second one sucked, 259 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:47.000 so I think you might be onto something here with 260 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.120 the uh surprise hit. Let's double down. 261 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.799 On because Hollywood wants something that's bankable. Yeah, something that's 262 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.840 gonna make money. And by the way, didn't ready or 263 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:56.759 not to make a lot of money. 264 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.200 I don't know, but I can find that out. I 265 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.480 know our next feature, Hail Mary, has won the last 266 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:04.080 two weeks in terms of box office, But that doesn't 267 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.039 mean that these guys didn't do anything. There was nobody 268 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.840 in my theater I was watching. I think there might 269 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.399 have been four or five people. 270 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.960 Getting getting back to that film ready or not too 271 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.039 It was difficult to be I think part of what 272 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.799 made the first one so cool was the comedic aspects 273 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.360 about it of it and you know, like for moments 274 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.200 of levity. 275 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:25.960 In this one. 276 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.080 I think it was difficult to balance out the comedy 277 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.600 and obviously like that when you have a musical montage 278 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:31.840 like that. 279 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:33.399 Yeah, that was perfect. 280 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.360 That was a total eclipse of the heart. 281 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.320 I think is the name of the song, right, Yeah? 282 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.120 And yeah, Bonnie Tyler. 283 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.200 I think it was Bonnie Tyler. 284 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:44.759 Anyway, it's difficult to balance it off. When Sean Hatosi's character, 285 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.759 I can't remember his name in the film. He was 286 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.840 Sarah Michelle Geller's brother. Yeah, Titus Titus, Yeah, Titus dand forth. 287 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:55.759 It was. It's when you have. 288 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:59.799 A character as sadistic and carnal, is that guy, it's 289 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.679 called the blend in comedy. Yeah, you know, so I 290 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.360 thought that was not the greatest thing that this movie 291 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:06.960 had going for him. 292 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:08.879 Did you feel it was earned? Did you like? I 293 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:11.120 felt like they kind of made him. I thought maybe 294 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:11.840 that's what they wanted. 295 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:17.759 Here's the thing. Did you see Rampage with the Rock? Yeah, 296 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:19.720 so you remember in that film, I want to say 297 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:24.240 it was Malin Ackerman and I can't remember the guy's name, 298 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.799 but he was on the last season of the Office. 299 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.759 They were the brother and sister that sort of headed 300 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:29.399 up the lab. 301 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.639 Sure, and they were they're the bad guys. You know. 302 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.840 It was kind of weird because I think they they 303 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.240 tried to play this guy as like sort of a 304 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.039 doofy character, the brother in that movie. He was sort 305 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.360 of like a doofy character most of the movie, but 306 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.240 then like at the end, it was like more serious, 307 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.120 you know. And I think this is how it was 308 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.919 with this tightest guy, where he's just he's almost like 309 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:58.559 a like, you know, this cartoonish, angry, jealous, spoiled son 310 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.519 slash brother, and then you find out like this this 311 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:07.600 is a deep personality thing with him where it goes 312 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:08.720 much more than he. 313 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.240 Hey, is just a dick. No, this guy is super sadistic. 314 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:13.600 Yeah, it really is. 315 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.519 And like it went from zero to sixty, like it's 316 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:17.480 very very quick. 317 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:22.639 Yes, like even a schlocky movie like Hostile too. It 318 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.200 inverts the two characters because they have two people like 319 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:27.519 ready to go and kill people at the Hostile one 320 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.279 of them's gung ho and one of them's like, I 321 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:30.799 don't know if I want to do this. By the 322 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.279 end of the movie, they've inverted their rules. But it 323 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.200 is a gradual process that you understand how they ended 324 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.679 up getting there, and for Hostile Too to take the 325 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:41.039 time to develop it, whereas here and maybe that's what 326 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.480 they were going for. I'm like, Okay, so Sarah Michelle 327 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.000 Geller is going to take this guy out at some 328 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:46.879 point because he clearly has no idea. 329 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:48.679 But I never really thought I mean, like it, just 330 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.519 not to interrupt you, but I thought Sarah Michelle Geller's 331 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.519 character is very similar to the one she played in 332 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:55.360 Cruel Intentions. 333 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.519 I said this, I was thinking the same thing. 334 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.840 I was thinking the same where I think she's cunning 335 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.279 and crafty and two steps ahead the whole time, and 336 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.399 then we find out towards the end that was not 337 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.360 what was going on with her at all, right, and 338 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.559 in fact I kind of misjudged what kind of character 339 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:12.600 she was. Now you could make the case that had 340 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.639 things played out differently in this movie, maybe my first 341 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.080 impression would have been correct. 342 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:18.440 We won't know. 343 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:21.120 But as much as you say, like it wasn't earned 344 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.960 with Titus, for how is his character development like how 345 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.639 it took place in the Snap of Fingers, Sarah Michelle 346 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.679 Geller is kind of the same way. Yeah, where she 347 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:31.679 was this one character the whole movie and all of 348 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.519 a sudden towards the end, with this one conversation she's 349 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.120 having with Tomorrow Weaving, It's like, oh, okay, Well, either 350 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.799 this movie is not very well put together or I 351 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.919 totally misread what was going on, right, And. 352 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.519 I'll be real with you. So Samorrow Weaving's sister is 353 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.879 played by Catherine Newton, who's the daughter in Quantumnia. She's 354 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.159 in an handful of things, which I didn't figure that 355 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.600 out un till after the movie. I'm like, what do 356 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.840 I know? This vie from it was driving me nuts. 357 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.159 I'll be okay, so it's not a spoiler if it's 358 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.679 not what happened I spent the entire movie because she's 359 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.679 gone for seven years. That's the whole point, which not 360 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.840 to send too many tangents here, but this is like 361 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:05.919 the fifth movie we've. 362 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.559 Famara Weavings's character has been gone for seven years, is 363 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:09.080 what you're saying. 364 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.759 Yeah, they had been separated, the sisters, she went to college. 365 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:13.679 They hadn't spoken for seven years, and this is like 366 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.000 the third or fourth movie where that's like a main point. 367 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:18.600 I know that was a point in Final Destination. I 368 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.960 don't know if that's a thing that was yeah. I 369 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:22.440 don't know if that's a gen Z thing or what, 370 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.159 but there is a recurring theme where younger siblings are 371 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.080 mad when the older siblings go off to college. That's 372 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.000 like not a thing. 373 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.879 Gone a sixty seconds. I just watched that the other day. 374 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.720 But so I'm watching the movie, I'm like, Okay, so 375 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.960 this younger sister hasn't been in her life for seven years. 376 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.600 Sarah Michelle Geller is behaving so weird. I thought they 377 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.320 were in cahoots. I was like, there's something with the 378 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:50.080 sister where nothing is. This isn't what it seems like. 379 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.240 That was the way Sarah Michelle Goether because even at 380 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.679 one point she says something and I'm blanking on it. 381 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.279 But there was like a weird interaction between the four 382 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.799 of them, the brother and sister and then the two sisters, 383 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.320 and I was like, something's up with this, and I 384 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.119 didn't know what it was, but I was like, there's 385 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.480 going to be a really cool reveal at some point 386 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:08.920 and none of that, none of that comes to fruition. 387 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.480 But that's how ambiguous Sarah Michelle Skeeller's character was. Was. 388 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.519 I was expecting these these big reveals about how she 389 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.200 was two steps ahead and this mastermind concoction, because it 390 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:21.680 didn't make sense that the sister was involved. 391 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.839 You are at any point, you are on a whole 392 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:29.200 different plane. Why but well, I mean an elevated plane 393 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.000 with how you watch films. I mean it's like watching 394 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.160 it with a detective. Well, I'm just I think I'm 395 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.880 actively watching something and that's not even close. 396 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:39.720 Compared to the thoughts that are going through your head. 397 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:41.000 It tell me it wouldn't have been better if it 398 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:42.799 turned out the sister had some kind of because like 399 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:44.279 she made up. Oh, I don't want to get too 400 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.200 much into because there's like reveals, so I'm not going 401 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.079