WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.759 You're listening to KFI AM six on demand. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:08.720 Jeel, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 3 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:10.839 Hi, thank you. 4 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:12.279 How can I help you? 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.160 Well? I have a really silly question. 6 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:18.320 I bet it's not silly at all. 7 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:24.960 Oh, it's very silly, but I'll try to make this short. Okay, 8 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:31.079 I've already battled cancer. I'm gonna hear on that. And 9 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:36.159 I've dealt with many years of neuropathy. I was recently 10 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.560 diagnosed with ALS. 11 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.159 Oh goodness, and I am. 12 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:47.520 Told I'm fifty eight years old. I'm told one to 13 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:52.200 five years do I have to live? But because of 14 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.560 the neuropathy, it may have been diagnosed, so they don't 15 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:01.880 know how long I've had ALS. Here's my silly question. 16 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:10.640 I have never been afraid of dying ever, I am now. 17 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:11.959 Why is that? 18 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:25.519 I don't know if when we pass, we do we 19 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:30.959 have to encounter people that we don't want to encounter. 20 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:36.000 Wait. Wait, wait, let me get this jewel. Wait a second. 21 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:39.920 So you're saying that you battled cancer, Yes, you've been 22 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:44.959 diagnosed with ALS. Yes you are a fighter, indeed, someone 23 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:48.439 very strong, and you're worried about who you'll bump into 24 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:48.959 in heaven. 25 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:49.959 Yeah. 26 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.760 Uh, when you say someone hurt you in what way? 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:56.400 Did they hurt you? 28 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.319 Well, physically, you know, as a child. 29 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:05.640 What makes you think they're going to be in heaven. 30 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:09.800 I don't like the way you think. 31 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:17.400 Well, I mean, that's really one part of it. 32 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:22.680 It frightens me. I'm not frightened a passing. I'm frightened 33 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:28.800 of seeing other people that I don't want to see. 34 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:33.800 Okay, well, here's a couple of things. First and foremost, 35 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:39.759 you don't know who's going to be there. And the 36 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:41.599 second part of that is you have to trust God 37 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.560 that those that are there are supposed to be there. 38 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.280 And lastly, I want to read something to you from 39 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:54.280 Revelation twenty one four. This is about heaven, says he 40 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.879 will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will 41 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:02.120 be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, 42 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:09.439 for the old order of things has passed away. Those 43 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.840 things won't be there. It's not about a bigger earth, 44 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.919 a better earth with no crime. It's not about some 45 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:28.319 sort of concept of a better humanity. Heaven is altogether different, 46 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.159 and I think a lot of people will see it 47 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.960 as a utopia, and it's not. It is altogether a 48 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:43.159 different place and experience than the human experience, and there 49 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.919 will not be those concerns in the same way, in 50 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:51.680 the same sense, and you will have an understanding of 51 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:58.639 things differently. So in that time and God's will that 52 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:02.240 you go home to be with your Maker, those things 53 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:07.560 will be understood and every tear wiped away. There won't 54 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.280 be the concept of death or pain or any of 55 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.840 those things. There won't even be a comparison of those things. 56 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.079 That's why when people think, like, oh, someone passes, are 57 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.240 they here on earth? No, there is not there. They 58 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.639 aren't thinking of the things of earth. There is no 59 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.839 not in this same way, in the same sense. And 60 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.959 so you won't have those fears at all, or those concerns. 61 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:41.000 There won't be fear. It's the fulfillment of hope. So 62 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:42.959 you don't have to worry about bumping into someone you 63 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.759 don't want to see. 64 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:02.560 You're right, yeah, sorry, don't be I'm sorry. 65 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.680 There should be no shame for emotions. They're one of 66 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.120 the most wonderful part of being human. Painful. 67 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:18.079 Maybe yes, I don't want to be afraid. 68 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:24.000 Well, no one wants to be afraid. Fear has its purpose. 69 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.120 Fear keeps you away from the edge of the cliff. 70 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.279 Fear keeps you away from sharp objects. Fear has a purpose, 71 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:32.680 but don't fear home. 72 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.279 No, fear is a good thing. I mean, I get that, 73 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.000 I certainly get that. I mean, my gosh, you don't 74 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.839 want your kid putting his hand on the stove. 75 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.399 You know, of course, it has its purpose, but in 76 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:56.399 this particular case, there's a lot of question marks as 77 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.519 as too if this person would even be there to 78 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:04.040 begin with. But having said that, God's not going to 79 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:07.160 put you in a situation like that. It's the fulfillment 80 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:12.079 again of hope, and it to be in that place 81 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.199 is not to be in a place of worry or 82 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:19.759 fear or awkwardness. Awkwardness or any of those things. You'll 83 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.920 understand and you'll be there, and you will have an 84 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.959 understanding understanding of everything that's occurred in your life in 85 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.639 a way that you could never on earth, and it 86 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.800 will come together. But there shouldn't be fear of that. 87 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:37.279 You continue to fight and remember doctors only can tell 88 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:42.680 you what they've seen before, not what they will see. Right, 89 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.519 And you have to hold on to those things and 90 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:50.079 be practical, put your things in order, be smart, but 91 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:57.000 always land on hope and understanding. That God's will be done. 92 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:03.439 Yes, well, put my ducks in the room, as they say, good, 93 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:08.000 put my you know, step in order that the children 94 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:15.800 and whatnot. But mmm, I don't know why I'm so 95 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.480 afraid right now. I just don't know. It's not like me. 96 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.399 It's just the unknown. There's a lot you're staring something 97 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:29.079 in the face, seemingly, and that that's a that's a 98 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:35.240 pretty stark reality, and that's a that's a you know 99 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.360 that that makes you start you sound very reasonable. Just 100 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.560 that just your tone and the fight that you have 101 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.160 in you and the fight that you've been through so far. 102 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.399 So you look at those things and you and you've 103 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.480 battled them, and now you're looking You're going, Okay, I'll 104 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.480 take this enemy head on. But I don't know what 105 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.480 this enemy is going to look like. I don't know 106 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.639 what it's going to be like. And you start going 107 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.560 through the scenarios in your head as to what it 108 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.920 might be and what you might be up against. But 109 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:08.680 let me tell you something, You're up against nothing. When 110 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:12.839 you're there, you're home. Every question mark you've ever had 111 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.920 here on earth, everything you've wondered, why did I have 112 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.279 to go through that? Why was this why all of 113 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.399 those questions that you have will be fulfilled and understood 114 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.839 in a way and not comprehend here no matter what 115 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:29.800 I tell you, it will be the ultimate fulfillment and 116 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:34.720 the place of peace. The crescendo, the the eternal crescendo 117 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.399 that has no end, will feel like it never had 118 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.879 a beginning, and it will make sense and you'll be 119 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.039 at peace. There will be no more battles for you 120 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:51.519 to wage war against or to stand up against. No, 121 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.120 in the words of Shakespeare, no slings, no arrows of 122 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.759 outrageous fortune. No more do you have to battle with 123 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.639 any of that stuff. It's done. The battle is over there, 124 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:03.240 no more worries. 125 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:10.600 Yeah, but I don't mind the battle. I don't mind 126 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.960 the battle, but you don't do. I'm in a darn 127 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:19.399 wheelchair most my day. It's fine, it's fine, and I 128 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:24.720 walked half the day. I don't want the end of the. 129 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.840 Battle, but that is what you fight for. Everyone fights 130 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:32.399 for the end of the battle. Everyone. There's no one 131 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:36.600 who fights to fight. That's bizarre. You fight for the 132 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:38.919 end of the battle, the win, the victory, whatever it 133 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.200 might be. You fight for the end of the battle, 134 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.919 and the end of the battle I'm telling you is peace. 135 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:52.200 It's not fear. It's none of that. You've battled so 136 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.919 long that you don't even know what that is anymore. 137 00:09:55.600 --> 00:10:07.759 But trust me, you'll like it. I guarantee. I just 138 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.240 got off the phone with Jewel, our last caller, and 139 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.240 we were chatting a little bit. Producer Neil got on 140 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:19.080 there as well, and what a doll and a strong spirit. 141 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:25.679 She was laughing and chatting and I can say, honestly, 142 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:34.360 it is the first time that anyone ever ended a 143 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:41.440 phone conversation with by saying later, Gator, So that says 144 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.559 a lot about the spirit of Jewel. A very sweet conversation. 145 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:51.519 She and producer Neil were chatting and they were talking 146 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:55.240 about trials in life, and she kept trying to coax 147 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:59.159 him into talking about the trials in his own life, 148 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.759 and he said, I don't know, we're here to chat 149 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:07.440 with you, and She's like, bring them, bring them. And 150 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.720 he assured her that in the card game of life, 151 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.440 she would win that hand because she is going through 152 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:19.000 some pretty major things and handling them like a champ. 153 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:27.039 So anyone that has battled cancer and is currently looking 154 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:33.039 at the battle of als is a pretty amazing thing 155 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.480 to see her in those kinds of spirit, spirit being 156 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:41.039 that kind of mental strength and place that she has 157 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.159 found in her life to be strong and focused. And 158 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.600 I'm sure she has good days and bad days, but 159 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:53.639 that particular spirit and attitude is so important because there 160 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:55.919 is much that you can't change in life that will 161 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:59.679 come your way that really will weigh on you and 162 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.360 there's nothing you can do about it, But how you 163 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:10.120 experience it is something you have control over. Your attitude 164 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.399 through it you can control. That's been said many times 165 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.559 before that life is ten percent what happens to you 166 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:20.480 and ninety percent how you deal with it. And really 167 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:23.039 that shows the character of who you are and the 168 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.320 strengths that you have, the tools that you have in 169 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:31.120 your emotional tool belt to get you through life. It 170 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.279 really shows you that those those skills that you've built 171 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.360 up are practical that you can ply them in a 172 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:44.480 time of need. There are many people that have experienced 173 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.759 things and thought they had great tools, but the minute 174 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.919 it weighs on them, they feel like the world is 175 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:55.919 crumbling around them. So let Jewel be an inspiration to 176 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:04.679 you as she is to me and the show. Dan, 177 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.000 Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 178 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:11.519 Hello, I have a sister that that says, she reads 179 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.279 in the Bible that God is a punishing God. If 180 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:19.399 you lie, you cheat, you steal, God will come upon 181 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.480 you with his wrath and uh and and uh and 182 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.720 punish you. I always thought that that God was merciful, 183 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:32.559 God was forgiving, God understood God. God helped you get 184 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:38.320 out of these things. But she's uh uh. She honestly 185 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:42.799 believes that, know, if you're a sinner, if you lie, 186 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.879 you cheat, you steal, that God's going to come upon 187 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:47.639 you and bad things are going to happen. He's going 188 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:50.360 to come down with his wrath and and you better 189 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:50.799 watch out. 190 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.200 Well, it's a nice, healthy combination of the two beliefs. Really, 191 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.559 God is a God of justice, absolutely, and yes, I 192 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:05.639 will punish on according to the deeds that a person does. However, 193 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.200 keep in mind that often the punishment is the consequence 194 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.320 of the very act itself. You know, if you steal, 195 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:15.440 if you live a life of crime, you'll probably go 196 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.559 to jail. So if you think that God, that that 197 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:25.000 mercy is somehow ignorant, or that grace is somehow blind, 198 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.600 that's absolutely wrong. God is a God of justice. Do 199 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.279 you think it's loving? Dan for a parent not to 200 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.480 punish their child when there when their child does something wrong, 201 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:36.879 is that the loving. 202 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.440 Thing to do? Well? 203 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:44.879 I understand that, I understand that. But there's uh people 204 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:51.799 who who who in their hearts understand the wrong that. 205 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:53.879 They do, then why do they do it? 206 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.879 Well? There's there's uh, there's good in my opinion, is 207 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.039 there's good and there's bad in this in this world? Yes, 208 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.799 And it's it's the nature. I think one could say, 209 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:14.960 if you have it lied, if you haven't cheated, you know, 210 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:22.519 throw the first roun Uh. It's it's human nature to 211 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.320 to to to lie. I believe that nobody is one 212 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:27.360 hundred percent perfect. 213 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.919 Okay, understood Dan? But or but you should be seeking 214 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.600 perfection even though you won't obtain it. You should always 215 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.519 seek being the best you can. You should always try 216 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:44.440 and eradicate one more lie from your conversation, from your day, 217 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:45.279 from your week. 218 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:48.519 I understand that. 219 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.320 But you shouldn't be walking around thinking that you have 220 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:57.240 a get out of jail free card because you know God, No. 221 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:01.639 I believe I believe if you, if you do wrong, 222 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:02.679 you should pay the price. 223 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:05.879 Okay, Then when then wherein lies the problem? Well? 224 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:10.000 I'm not but I'm not talking about anything of physical 225 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.000 I'm not talking about you amongous things. That's stealing the 226 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.799 from the poor and robbing a bank and taking somebody's life. 227 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.039 But God sees those is all equal. You're the one 228 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.399 that sees those as different. Man sees those as a hierarchy. 229 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:28.840 But ultimately, any sin is a slap in the face 230 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.919 of God. Any sin, no matter how small. 231 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:36.639 I understand that. I understand that, I understand that. Well, 232 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.960 you've answered my question. I appreciate it. Thank you. 233 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.200 Oh I hope so, Dan, But I get the feeling 234 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.600 that maybe there's something else more to it. Truth be 235 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.200 told that it becomes very easy for people to try 236 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:58.080 and partition God. God is all love, God is all justice. 237 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.840 God has wrath. God is compassionate. All these things are true. 238 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.200 You can't separate them and many of them go hand 239 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.720 in hand in a way that you don't even think about. 240 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.240 So to define, to think that God's going to look 241 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:17.440 the other way when you do things is not correct. 242 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.680 God knows your heart as well. God knows when you 243 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:28.359 make mistakes. You can't just use the excuse that, oh, well, 244 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:32.319 I'm going to sin because I'm a sinner. God knows this. 245 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.440 As well. But you need to seek those things that 246 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:39.000 are good and trust that in your rebellion. If you 247 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.359 get into a state where you just continue to throw 248 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.480 aside anything that God says and think, hey, well, I'm 249 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.960 just a sinner God, then you will lose sight of 250 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:54.559 God because the biggest consequence is it changing the relationship 251 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:59.000 you have with God because you start to distance yourself 252 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:05.519 from Him. So keep that in mind. Kim, Welcome to 253 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:06.359 the Jesus Christ Show. 254 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.759 Thank you Jesus for taking my call. 255 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:09.240 My pleasure. 256 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:11.559 What's going on? I'm going to start crying. I don't 257 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:17.000 want to cry. I have a parent, a mother that's deceased, 258 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:20.240 the father that's an alcoholic all his life. It's taken 259 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.079 a toll. He's got everything going for him where he's at, 260 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:28.599 and they're about to boot him from where he's at 261 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.240 due to his own alcohol abuse. And he's got the 262 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.880 ultimate situation. He's in the most perfect place and he's 263 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:37.880 blowing it all and he's going to be on the 264 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:38.839 street homeless. 265 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:42.440 Why is the situation so perfect? Just the cost of 266 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:43.880 in the location and everything else. 267 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:49.240 Everything's everything's cater to his every need, and yet the 268 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:58.119 abuse continues, the denial the oh, the mentality of just 269 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:00.680 I can't say the words right now. 270 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.279 How long has he been abusing alcohol? 271 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:02.960 Oh? 272 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:06.480 Since way back in time? 273 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:08.799 Oh, gotcha. So this has been something that's been taking 274 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:10.960 place for a long time. Has he has he ever 275 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.880 gotten help? Has he ever been part of a program? 276 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:13.279 Yeah? 277 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:19.839 Yeah, And he's just stubborn and denial and just pompous 278 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:24.400 and very very this terrible personality when it comes to, 279 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:29.519 you know, the denial. And my mother was put through 280 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.680 this all her life with him, and speaking to an 281 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:36.680 aunt yesterday, she told me that she's just waitnessed it 282 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.319 for fifty years herself, to abuse. My mom asked him 283 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:43.960 how she couldn't believe she hadn't stabbed in basically years ago, 284 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:46.640 and that's not even her, that's not even in her 285 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.559 her being. But I understand was at that level that 286 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.799 she's witnessed my mother through it and just said to 287 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.200 him point blank, I would have done that too long 288 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.759 time ago, you know, knowing what you put her through, 289 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.200 and you know, it's just it go on and on, 290 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:05.839 and I have this whole thing where I'm like feeling 291 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:10.839 so bad every day for him and torturing myself when 292 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.599 I'm not the one doing anything wrong. It's just some 293 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.599 choice to do this. But it's awful because you don't 294 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:18.640 want to see your parents. 295 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:21.200 Go through this, of course not. And there comes a 296 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.240 time often where you have to make a decision because 297 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.039 you can become part of the problem. You can't really 298 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.720 help him, especially especially if he doesn't want help, So 299 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.119 to house him up or to take care of him 300 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.079 in that context isn't going to make things better. 301 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:40.599 Because they had a brother do that, and the brother 302 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.359 was tortured through it all. It's just like he was 303 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.119 in my mother's position again, and you know, it just 304 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:48.759 went on and on and three years went by and 305 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.519 it was no better and it was worse. And anybody 306 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.519 else trying to step forward to do that, it's going 307 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.599 to be put to the same torture. And it's just 308 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.400 it's not there. It's not right. But yet, how do 309 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.720 you drive around on knowing your father's over there, not 310 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:04.960 even in a tent, living on the street. I mean, 311 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:05.680 it's so sad. 312 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:09.039 But this is a choice, you know, But this is 313 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:13.000 a choice. I mean, it's I know that it's rough 314 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:15.400 to think about, and that you have the desire to 315 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.599 have compassion, but to what end do you do you 316 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:20.400 live alone? 317 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.720 Yes, but I'm not in a financial situation where I 318 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.400 could put up with any kind of that because I 319 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:27.920 don't want to risk my own shelter. 320 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:32.079 Yeah, and you can't. That doesn't help the situation at all, 321 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.039 especially if you were both out on the streets. 322 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:37.599 Everybody with him. 323 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:42.160 He needs help and sometimes hitting rock bottom is a necessity, 324 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:42.839 and that help. 325 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:46.000 He's hit rock bottom in so many ways and so 326 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.880 many times, so many people have hurt themselves trying to 327 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:54.599 help him, because Dave ended up coming out scarred from 328 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:55.440 it badly. 329 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:59.759 Well, Kim, you can't live life for someone else. You 330 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:02.839 can only you can only live your life. And it's 331 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.240 a sad truth. But when people get to a point 332 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.400 where they are rejecting things that are good for them, 333 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.640 there's not a whole lot you could do. Because what 334 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:19.200 he actually needs is is regiment. He needs very restricted guidelines. 335 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.440 And yeah, you know, you talk to him and he says, oh, 336 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:24.680 I went to church, And I'm thinking, oh, yeah, you know, 337 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.559 you go to church is everything you think people want 338 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:28.000 to hear. 339 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.480 Because that makes you look better. 340 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:31.839 Sure, you're not sure. 341 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:35.759 And when you said that, my friends very religious. I 342 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:37.240 work with her, and I said what would you do? 343 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:39.640 What am I supposed to do? Love the mother, love 344 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.039 my father? She says, You know what, if it was 345 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.519 your mother, you would you could take her in in 346 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.359 that condition, because mothers are different than dad's. Dads are 347 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.480 supposed to be stronger. You know, you shouldn't have to 348 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:52.799 be putting up with that with your own father, But 349 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:53.519 I don't know. 350 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.200 Well, it's a little different. And you and you sort 351 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.160 of paraphrase to scripture the one of the commandments to 352 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:05.000 honor your mother and father. But in that context, you're 353 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.880 supposed to honor your mother and father in what is honorable. 354 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.279 You don't just honor them to honor them, because there's 355 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.039 some really bad parents out there. So it's not just honor. 356 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:19.880 It's honoring one parentage and the tradition of parentage, the 357 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:24.559 purpose of parentage and the parenting that goes along with it, 358 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.759 and the position of parenting and all of these things. 359 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:32.200 But not you know, someone that hurts you or beats you, 360 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.759 or treats you poorly, or you don't honor those things. 361 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:39.400 So in this particular case, Kim, your father needs to 362 00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:41.759 get into a program, and he's getting into a pretty 363 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.000 severe program, and that's not something that you could do 364 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.000 on your own. If you had the wherewithal to bring 365 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.400 him in under those guidelines, that would be a wonderful thing. 366 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:54.680 But it doesn't sound like you do, and it doesn't 367 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:57.039 sound like it would be beneficial to you or to 368 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:01.160 him to have him come in there. He's a grown man. 369 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.799 He's made his choices, and there's going to be consequences 370 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.880 to those choices, and you need to allow him to 371 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:12.279 go through whatever pattern he needs to go through. Now 372 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.240 you can tell him I will absolutely let you come 373 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.640 live here after you do a year in a program 374 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.119 or whatever your criteria is going to be. But you 375 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.559 have to set those guidelines and you can't just willingly 376 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.519 go yeah, you can come on in and everything's going 377 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:36.480 to be great, because it won't. Rachel, Welcome to the 378 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:37.359 Jesus Christ Show. 379 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.160 Hi, Jesus, Hello, Hi, I have a question for you. 380 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.119 I was reading this morning numbers twenty two, and in 381 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:52.200 eighteen Baalim flat out says to the Lord, let's see here. 382 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:52.839 Oh. 383 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:53.799 He says, I. 384 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.039 Would be powerless to do anything against the will of 385 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.960 the Lord. And in twenty God came to Bailim and said, 386 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:01.839 since these men have come for you, get up and 387 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.200 go with them, and he tells him to go with 388 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.680 them and then drop down a little bit. In twenty two. 389 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:12.079 God was furious that Balem was going. And this troubles me. 390 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.119 I need to know that it seems out of seems 391 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:16.880 like a contradiction. 392 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.759 Yes, and I don't that's not the God that I know. 393 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.279 No, it's like a sneaky God going go over here, 394 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:25.279 and now you went over there. There's a lot going 395 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:30.200 on here. And this involves the Angel of the Lord. 396 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.680 And if you notice, the Angel of the Lord does 397 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.599 not kill him, No, he doesn't. No, he actually gives him. 398 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:43.519 The concern here is about dealing with Balem's greed in 399 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.759 his heart. He was tempted by the offers that were 400 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.680 coming his way. You can read numbers, you know, twenty 401 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:53.799