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these things. I wasn't prepared for.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 4: I thinking about a lot about the podcast today, and uh,
I had meetings at like earlier about other different things
that we're going to try, and and uh, but I
kept thinking about yesterday and I feel like I have
to say this, and I don't. I know, it's not
really well formulated, so just bear with me, you two.
But it had to do with you know, I had
mentioned on the last episode that David A's cannon and
is dead. He was a radio personality in the South.
And how I saw a friend of ours Bjsha, had
put up on on Facebook that mental health in our
industry was basically, you know, questioning the mental health in
our industry. So I reached out to Beach and I
know more than most people about his situation. And David
Cannon notion because BJ is no longer on the radio.
He's not on the radio, and uh, he said he
can't say he doesn't want to do anything until whatever
he's going through now is over. I talked to him,
it's the same thing to Yeah, it be deeper than
he thinks. What he thinks he might end up in court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could like people's court. Uh, something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a it's not a good look for him. Uh.
I just say that. But I know more about that
situation from other sources and things. But anyway, that has
nothing to do with it. The point is it fucks
with your head. And I was thinking about this, and
I go, I think it's taken me till now and
and even going and seeing the therapist stuff to kind
of move out of the feelings that you have. Because
here's something that I don't know that a lot of
people can relate to. And and it's very easy to
say whatever, nothing has any meaning unless you give it meaning.
But when I was thinking about this guy Ace, and
I didn't know him super well, but I just came
across his phone number and my phone, I goh, shit, man,
I gotta and then I get the thing that he does.
So but here's what happens in this job. And maybe
it's like other jobs too. I don't know. All I've
done primarily since I was nineteen years old was talking
to microphone. I did some construction things when I was
in high school because I like that sort of stuff,
but I was mostly clean up there. I did some
other but it was basically this. And when you're part
of something that is bigger than you are, right, you're bigger.
It's bigger than you, and you buy association with it,
come bigger in personality and things. You live a pretty
charmed life. You live a nice charmed life. You just do.
But here's the part that I think that it's hard
for people to understand.
Speaker 3: That when.
Speaker 4: Some a lot of times there's behind the scene things
that go on contractually this or that, there's arguments, there's
different things, and all of a sudden, the person's gone.
And you were part of people's lives every day for
however long, and you were there and then it's over.
And the weird part is it's as though you never existed. Yes,
I've experienced that, but I mean like when your name
is on the stuff, like they're playing and it's your
name on there, and then all of a sudden it's gone.
There's no explanation as to why, there's no nothing, and
it's just over. And there's a part of you that goes,
holy shit, like was it ever real? Because it's like
you never ever existed. No one ever says what happened,
No one ever tells you where they went. Nothing, absolutely
nothing is ever said. That's all they want it well,
and I understand why from a business perspective. Remember, I
mean business has no feelings. That's the thing. Business has
no feelings. But we're in an industry that is all
you have are feelings. When you're talking into a microphone,
the one thing you're trying to do is a is
a moat a reaction of feeling from people. That's why
they listen to you, because you make them either feel
good or agitated or whatever. Right, but they have a feeling,
that's why they listen to you. Business has no feelings.
And I think for the person who's on the side
of that, where they were recognized and welcomed places and
got things because they just existed and they were who
they were, and therefore they got things, right, memberships to
different clubs that they never had to pay for, that
was never through their cars. They I mean, all kinds
of things. It just is the way that's part of
the industry. When that's over, boom, it's over. I mean,
it's like curtains down and you are just standing there,
and I think that, No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm talking about is and I'm talking like on
a much a much deeper level than that, because I
think a guy killed himself over it. I think David
killed himself. I'm not I shouldn't say that into the microphone.
I know I shouldn't, but I do think that, And
I think I don't know why he left his show,
but the next day was his partner and someone else
immediately immediately. It was never this is what happened since
nineteen ninety eight. There, this is the team you knew,
blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It was over.
Speaker 4: So that tells me that I'm not sure it was
entirely his decision to leave. Do you understand what I'm saying,
Because that's too cool. I just know the industry. It's
too fast. It's too fast because either they I mean
they got to turn on a dime, right, so something
something said this is over now, not hey, man, take
a sabbatical come back. I know of shows where a
guy went into rehab, they did the show without him
until he could come back good. I think it was
like six months several shows. Yeah, I know, I know
one guy that did that. So that wasn't over and done.
So this had to be something else. And then you've
got another failed marriage or whatever's happening, and you just
can't can't fucking take it, and I go, I just
I liked what you said last night where you were like,
do you ever watched the show? What was it? I'm
trying to remember with the it was the whole stockbroker show.
Oh yeah, billions, billions, and they have the shrink on
the floor. I do we say this on air doing Okay? Yeah,
they had a shrink. Make one of the main antagonists
on the show. Oh runs the stock market. He's actual finances, right,
and he.
Speaker 1: Made all his money on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: He didn't go into work that day and he cashed
in and so he ends up hiring a woman who's
a shrink, who's a shrink who happens to be the
wife of the protagon is to the show did But
the point is that they had somebody on staff.
Speaker 1: To deal with people's mental issues.
Speaker 4: Well, it was basically And what she was really like
was a sports psychologist who was to keep you when
you were not earning, when you weren't bringing in the money,
why and how to balance all that? And you said, man,
they should have done that in radio, and I go,
that's an interesting thing. I don't know that here's where
it would help.
Speaker 1: I wish we could have had that.
Speaker 4: Well, I just think a lot of I think a
lot of personalities are damaged people, and I think a
lot of them are very sensitive, more than they want
you to know, very sensitive, and any kind of negative
feedback sends them fucking sideways.
Speaker 3: I have seen more.
Speaker 4: People in radio get down in dirty and into the
depths with people on social media, and it means fucking nothing.
There is absolutely no reason I never did it. I
just I could care less. You could tell me, well
I would, but.
Speaker 1: But you're different.
Speaker 4: Well I'm different in that I had so much bet
weird shit happened to be throughout my life. I just
have layers of bubble wraps, so I don't let those
things bother me. But I watch people, so I think
for that. But what I'm talking about is like the
BJSHA situation, my situation, DJ situation, or ACIS situation. All
of a sudden, it's gone. It's like it never existed.
You're not welcome back there. They never mentioned you. It's over,
and I think that fucks with people's head. And I
think that's exactly what's going on with bj right now
because I'm not so sure it's going to go to court.
I think it's over and done. I just hasn't come
to me.
Speaker 5: I've been told, uh, we said these producer meetings. Jt
R Old boss me, he rest in peace. You sued
to have these meetings, and he said, one thing you
have to remember about talent. There's two points I'm gonna
make here. They're all effing crazy and why here's point two.
Chris Crowley always said this. I don't know if I'd
necessarily believe all of it, but I believe some of it.
We're all here because somewhere along the line, we all
didn't get something in life. That's why we're all here
in this business.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: When it comes from Chris, I believe that. Yeah, okay,
I gotta do it because I want to do sports.
I was I was an odd ball, but most people
I could see that, and all of a sudden he
didn't get it, Like when you, I didn't, And when
so I didn't get I tried.
Speaker 1: I got close, but I could see how all of
a sudden.
Speaker 5: Now, when Ronda Rowsey lost her first fight, she said
she was suicidal. Yeah, because that's what that was her
life now, Well, but her whole life came to being
this fighter.
Speaker 1: That was her identity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not exactly, that's not exactly it. You're
you're missing just a little bit there. The idea is
that you're a loser. Do you understand that? Yeah, it's
not even nice talking to you. But no, what I'm
saying is like it's bigger than that. It's not like
I to fight because most that's why you have sports
psychologists and things. At one game, one play, one punch,
one round, that's all the thinking, right, But when it's
so into you, you're a winner, you're the champion, and
now everything, no one wants to talk to you. The
phone doesn't ring, you're not there. You feel like a loser,
and you feel like everybody hates you. And I think
that's part with her too, like who knows me? Yeah,
And so I think with these guys, it just is
like you know your ace and you're doing these things.
I mean, he he had a boat that he would
go out and he did an amazing ad for this
boat company and this beautiful thing and you could go
take a ride. All that goes away and I think
you're you're left holding the bag, going well, I was
ONTs this, but now I'm this, And the truth of
it is, it doesn't matter. Like it's okay, you're still here,
you're still breathing, you're still but that. But the mental
side of it is I suck. I lose. Everybody hates me,
I lost all my friends. No one will talk to me.
I don't exist. I can't say anything because I sign this,
so therefore I can't talk and they can't talk. And
there's non disclosed you know what I mean. And it's
all this stuff that just builds up in you, and
you know, let something faster, and it gets worse and
worse and worse than what the reality is. In your head, yes,
in your head, yes, And that's what I'm saying is
And I think a lot of times in different industries
that that's what it is. I can't speak for other jobs.
I can speak for this one. I can say that
when that's over, that's it's. It's tough because you think
everybody hates you or wants to know why, and you
can't talk and they can't talk, and so it's just
like this sort of standoff and everybody goes to their
separate ways. But what what was Friendships or things or
your things you thought were are all gone, they're all
it's all over. It's all gone, and you just kind
of stand there and it's like it's like standing in
the mid the middle of a fucking street and tell
he goes by, here's me a lot of traffic in
this town, and now there's nothing. And I think for
some people that's an impossible thing to get over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I I've never been as we know, like to the
levels that you're talking, but I've experienced that several times,
and it sucks. Now I'm not going to name names.
Certain people won't take your phone calls or return your
phone calls anymore. Yeah, that hurts. Yeah, you're not invited
to the big parties anymore. All I was was a
producer on Wham CMF and a talk show. I was
a house beam Rochester. I was like Jesus Christ, Well,
I mean there were times when you didn't and so,
I mean.
Speaker 3: So and then he needed you.
Speaker 6: But then.
Speaker 1: I took your call.
Speaker 5: But the point is, though, is that that hurts at
every single level. It's like when you were somebody. It's
almost like a house of cards and when that wind
comes blowing, then what Yeah, and you have to like
figure out a way to get through, and that's not easy.
Speaker 1: It took me years to do that.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think from a mental health aspect, the question is,
and I don't know, Like, let's say you get fired
from another job. Sometimes you can justify in that there's
cut there's cuts, right, and so that's the thing, and
we got to just readjust and it's not whatever whatever reason,
whatever reason, whatever decisions were made. But it's also like
you worked for XYZ Corporation, and the XYZ Corporation is
still there and you're somewhere else, but it's the XYZ Corporation.
It's not the Bill Moran you know what I'm saying,
or the ace and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, you're the captain of
the ship, and now you go over the plaque. The
ship is still sitting right.
Speaker 4: And it's like people are blowing smoke up your ass,
bell all this stuff, and then it's gone. And I
think that because I was trying to in my mind
and I spent far too much time and I'm not
articulating it well. But when I saw BJ's posts, I'm like, well,
can't blame the industry. And then I had to think
about it deeper, and I go, you still can't blame
the industry, But I understand what happens. You have become
bigger than the person right right, you know, and you
get things because of this, yes, and you live a
charmed life. That's the only thing I can come up with,
is a charmed life. You get to go place and
you get to do things that other people don't. You
get backstage and get access, and people like to see
you and they want to talk to you about what
you talked about and it's awesome, right, And it's awesome,
and then it's not. And that's where I think some
guys just really have a hard time with that, and
I think that's what happened with it.
Speaker 1: It is difficult. It is difficult, and you got to
find something.
Speaker 5: In other words, you really have to I love the
the movie Cool Runnings has this one scene where John
Candy was the coach of the Jamaican Bob Slid team
and one of his Bob's letters asks him. He goes, Coach,
you had two gold medals? Why did you cheat? He
found out his coach was a cheater and it broke
his heart and he goes, if you're not enough without it,
what are you with it?
Speaker 1: You'll never be enough with it. You gotta find the
enough without it, and you.
Speaker 5: Gotta do it well before you go make your life
into something that you think is always going to be there.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing that I were sort of coming
to the same conclusion, and it's what I say about
kids and things. Right, You got to find and you
got to get it from within. Self validates has to
come from with It always has to come in here.
It can't come from outside because it will always go
Everything we're talking about is outside. But you know, like
when we worked from one company, they didn't have names
on the show, so it was the x y Z Corporation, right,
you left and it was still that show. Oh whatever,
But this is like, you know, you don't exist and
I and I understand that, and I think that can
be tough, but you got to you got to go inside,
and if you're not finding your validation from inside, then
everything's going to run you all over. Yeah, you'll never
have point and I ever had. I think that's a
that's a big deal. And I feel bad for even
Beads because, uh, you know he was saying and I
think I think he's gonna go the podcast route at
some point. And uh, I said, I will be happy
to you certainly could do it give you some some
things to watch out for because it's a different animal slightly.
It is just a different animal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's yeah, it's it's a tough situation. It
really is a tough situation.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that industry I gotta say.
Speaker 5: I don't say BJ's defense because it's like the defense,
but I think in a way he's the industry is
loaded with people who all want to it's one big party, really, right, Yeah,
radio is one big party. It's not you don't wear
a tide of work everyday unless you're doing news. It's
not news, it's not. It's that's why it recall him
the wacky boarding DJs. But it's it's fun. It's one
big party. Even sales is a party, but this, this,
it attracts the same group of people, and everybody's so
interested in the party that nobody ever worries about.
Speaker 4: The clean up. Yeah, that's a good okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to clean up afterwards.
Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, it's like a hurricane just
went through here and it's over, and how do I
deal with this?
Speaker 1: And there's nobody there to show you.
Speaker 5: No, by the way, nobody is equipped to deal with
that because they don't know how to deal with it themselves.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's fine. I don't want to get too
far off in the things on it. I just I
was thinking about that, and I go, yeah, I think
this is part of it. You know, for those guys
in particular, who were you know, pretty big market personalities,
were multi market personalities. To have that go away overnight, right,
everything's changed overnight. It's like you didn't exist, And you go, well,
what about the last twenty years or twenty five party
moves on. Uh, yes, but you know, and that's that's
where again. Look, life's never going to stop coming at you.
You just got to be able to handle it. And unfortunately,
I think somebody just couldn't handle it really well and
that bothered.
Speaker 1: That's Yeah, been in those shoes, uh to an extent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, absolutely absolutely, And uh it's been I don't know,
it's been a there's been a ride until now. Well,
I would say that like things are actually good, you
know what I mean, Things are good.
Speaker 1: Yeahs that's nice.
Speaker 4: Things are good. But it can get a little bumpy
there for everybody. Uh, we'll take a moment super Bowl week.
But there's other stories in the NFL. Other storylines. Oh
there are, Oh there's a couple other storylines. Uh, they
have nothing to do with the game.
Speaker 1: No. In fact, the game is like the thing the
people are talking about the least with the exception of
or the rest.
Speaker 4: But on the green the game.
Speaker 1: There's like no buzz for the super Bowl. The buzz
is about everything else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will get to all of that right after this.
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Speaker 3: So it wasn't a Harney says bipolar.
Speaker 4: How she says, yeah, just going through about and it
brings out a hypersexuality and stuff. I believe it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, four times a week hypersexual.
Speaker 4: Hang only thanks FDA. No, I think the bipolar without
the medication makes you hyper sexual.
Speaker 5: No, I know, I'm just talking about like all the
food we eat leads to all this stuff. Oh, it
could be, and that that's America diet has led to
more disease.
Speaker 1: Like every year we get new diseases. You realize that
a new cures.
Speaker 5: Is that weird billy and I learned about it about
commercials watching television.
Speaker 1: Do you have restless leg syndrome?
Speaker 4: Well, restless leg syndrome I've heard better around for about
twelve years. Yes, it was bipolar and in a manic episode,
hypersexuality and risk taking behavior is very common in those eyes.
I'm not I believe that. Do you have Perrone's disease, Well,
that's for your dis Yeah. Well I've seen people, Oh
you have.
Speaker 3: Imber.
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember people like those things. I think
have been around. And I think restless leg.
Speaker 1: Too was Restless leg syndrome has been around.
Speaker 4: This is my grandmother used to.
Speaker 1: Go, my legs are jumpy.
Speaker 4: I got restless leg belly.
Speaker 3: Eating Freddy pebbles didn't make my dick curved.
Speaker 4: To I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't pretty pebbles and milk.
Speaker 4: Though I can't say that that stuff is real because
Jamison even said to me, would you ever have raw milk?
And I go, what is raw milk? And he's like,
I go straight from the cow. He's like no, but
like you know, it comes into container but there's not
nothing's ever been done to And I go, yes, I
grew up on that. He goes, holy crap, your original.
Speaker 1: Well we got it from the farm back kid missing
out the car.
Speaker 3: There wasn't.
Speaker 1: Just came in a bucket.
Speaker 3: Yes, really no, I told you.
Speaker 4: We used to go over we my mother bought the
old fashioned milk jug like milk. I don't know. It
was like a tin can had a handle. We would
go over Ja to this mill Clarence, this guy's Clarence,
his farm, and I think you threw some money into
a basket and you just opened the spic on a
tank and it was like all the well, spickett bin, spickot,
spick it and I yeah, the spigot on the on
the tank and.
Speaker 1: Really you car you there again?
Speaker 3: And are milk?
Speaker 4: Fill it up? And it wasn't pasteurized? Was not how
Abraham Lincoln's wife died of like, well you can they say, yes,
if the cow had died because it was the eighteen
und didn't. That's the other thing that's true too, But
that the chance no, but they had parasites could be
in there and that sort of thing. It didn't happen.
We would literally take the cream off the top. Back
to the Puerto Ricans and uh, the spic kids, I
love you right.
Speaker 1: Also, did you see this missing child?
Speaker 4: So Jesus Christ and so anyway, that was now.
Speaker 3: We're going to Jesus. I remember gar pissed out the
going to Jesus now too, don't bring him into your mask.
Speaker 5: I remember a guy named Coach Newley once told us
a story about it, like the families to get his
sister pregnant just to get the milk.
Speaker 4: But this was like, uh yeah, So to your point
with food, I don't know, man, I can't. I can't
say I think you feel better when you eat better.
I've been having that conversation with my kid, and he's
like a big old meatball, Samon, Well, this is necessarily bad.
It's not necessarily bad. If I mean, like I I'll
buy grass fed beef and make meatballs. They're great.
Speaker 5: Meatball sandwiches are great. With the right sauce, you get
the wrong sauce. Though that meatball sub could suck for example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to say, but there's a certain
sauce and talents over priced, really bland.
Speaker 7: Oh, Jesus, we're now we got the Puerto Ricans. Jesus
in the in the Italian former radio person, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't say that, all right, moving on, boopoopy, it's uh.
But Kevin. The reason I played to take on me
was Kevin. While back, there was a story about a woman,
what about almost two years ago in Colorado Springs. I
believe that they did a staycation and she and her
husband got into an argument and she went down to
the hot tub where there were some teenage boys who
were on a hockey trip. And I think these guys
were fifteen years old, but at a hockey tournament. What's
that Minnesota? Oh, they were in Minnesota, but they were
from Colorado Springs. Team was from Colorado. Okay, they travel
and then she, uh, she went up back in the
room with them and allegedly had sex and all this,
and we communicated with her and she was saying it
was all made up, all terrible. But then but then
Kevin just played a voicemail or a voice message from her,
and I don't know if we could. I don't know
if I'm comfortable putting it out there because she said
she didn't want to be on a platform. But I'd
like to keep talking to her because I think this
would be an interesting conversation. But she's blaming. She's saying,
like the victims, like she calls him victim one and
victim two because that's how they're identified as underage guys
in the lawsuit. And she's saying that, you know, one
was no longer playing hockey, and they're all blaming her
for it. And she goes, and you have no you
have in my life.
Speaker 3: The coutter was so bad, they.
Speaker 4: Lady lady, Yes, of course. But this is where this
is my other thing. And I will say this, and
this will not be a very popular thought, I think
among some people. I think when things like this happen,
parents make too big of a fucking deal about it.
If it happened, it happened.
Speaker 3: There's the messages about all that too.
Speaker 4: Do you understand what I'm saying, Like, if it happened,
if you found out that Tyler, if I found out
that Jamison did. It's already done, it's over. I'm not
going to start talking and I'm not going to tell
you how this is going to fuck you up for
the rest of your life. It may, and I'm gonna
get you right into therapy, and I'm not going to
keep beating the drum of well this is because you
because you got taken advantage of by some horny, bipolar bitch,
and I'm not gonna do that. I'm not saying I'm
not saying that that may not be the cause, but
I'm not reinforcing right, and I'm getting into professionals, and
I'm not talking about it as much. I may say
once in a while, is everything okay? You know, if
you ever want to have any questions, if things come up,
please feel free. If it's not me, you know uncle,
you know so and so, we'll get you to counseling whatever.
But I'm not just I can tell you, like you know,
you know, you get some women that will not families.
I don't mean women, but women that you know do
they God damn ladies.
Speaker 3: You're always beating the fucking drum of how mad.
Speaker 4: It is you stop stop, stop, stop, everybody stops don't
be the cholester. Well you know what I'm saying, Like
all of a sudden, I got to get in there
and save it. No, you don't, you know, you don't.
It happened, it's over. Let's deal with this and not
make it worse.
Speaker 1: Everybody realized right now, Hey, have you made any mistakes?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 1: Don't make it anymore. Yeah, just do that.
Speaker 4: We've all but we've all made mistakes and we all
to continue to make mistakes. And that's okay.
Speaker 3: But my I'm perfect, possible, perfectly round.
Speaker 1: Sorry, No you're not.
Speaker 4: I'm don't worry. I just I Maybe that's harsh to say,
but I do feel like a lot of times, at
least in the world that I grew up in, that
it would be like the worst thing in the world,
and everybody'd be weepy and crying. I can't believe this happened,
and where was I What was I doing? And the
thing is like, you can't do that, because that doesn't
that makes the kid feel worse, just reinforces it. Well,
it just makes the kid feel worse. You want to
know why people don't say things sometimes just because they can't.
You're not You're not this cool calm, collected person that
I can trust in your You're crying and weeping and
you're on the phone with your friends, and I can
overhear things and I see it. I see your text
messaging and I can see it over your shoulder, and
you're going, yeah, he's really all screwed up because of
this woman is horrible. I wish I could get her
the electric chair and the kid's fucking high five and
his friends because he's the man now, because he got
some tang Maybe maybe maybe not. But the idea, at
least in the adult world, is I've created this problem,
and you know, it's just it's just it's a fucked
up thing. That's all right, We're screwed up as people
on all right, NFL the Super Bowl. I don't know
that I even care that much, but I'll ask this
question and then we'll get into the story. Is Russell
Wilson's reputation because he did leave Denver and go to
the Steelers this past season? Is it take yes with
a brink struck taking more of a hit from his
playing on the field or the narratives surrounding him off
of it. And let me explain what I mean by that, okay,
before we go. So Russell Wilson does go to Pittsburgh.
Russell Wilson wins the starting job in training camp because
they had also they got what's his name from Chicago, Yeah,
Justin Fields. So they have Justin Fields and they think
that Justin maybe can learn from this wiley veteran who's
won a Super Bowl. But he does win the starting job.
Then he hurts his calf. They go four and two
with Justin Fields. The coach then decides it's time for
time for Russell Wilson. Russell goes in there and they
goes I'm pretty sure they went six and one with Russell,
which is pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: Right, they're competing for the top spot in the conference.
Speaker 4: They were last four games they lose out, Yes, So
then something comes out in like a paper and it
basically says that the last the first six games, or
those six games that they won, Russell Wilson was not listening.
He was kind of calling his own plays or improving sometimes,
and that's why they were winning. I'm paraphrasing here.
Speaker 3: Didn't they fire their offensive corner of the year too well?
Speaker 5: They fired Matt Canada from Arthur Smith Arthur Smith was
calling the plays this past year.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Arthur Smith is still there.
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith is the guy, and they're saying that he
listened to Arthur, he was told he had to do this,
and then that's why they lost the last four games. Okay,
that's the narrative. And then a CBS sports insider goes,
that's bullshit. That's a completely made up, bullshit story. I
don't know this guy's name, ADDI kick Wally don't know
all right, he's a reporter for CBS strongly refewed to claim,
hinting that Wilson's camp may have leaked the story to
shift the blame and bolster his free agent market, because
they're going, there's really no place for Russell Wilson anymore
in the league. Even though he went six and one,
he lost the most important games, and while they did
make the playoffs, they didn't get out of the first round.
And so the question is is his reputation taking more
of a hit because of his play or his off
field stuff. And there is this sneaky side to this
guy that he does these kind of things. It always
comes out like, wasn't he the guy in Seattle that
they couldn't call directly, this Russell Wilson thing, like, either way,
don't you think Kevin? At some point it's your name there.
Speaker 5: Marshawn Lynch and Richard Sherman, who were teammates in Seattle,
famously did a podcast where they talked about how they
could not get in touch with Russell Wilson, that they
had to go through an intermediary. All of his teammates
had to go through an intermediary to get to him.
When he got to Denver, he had his own office
and he said, hey, my door is open. He made
a big thing about it. My door is always open.
And his teammates are like, you have a locker, Yeah,
you have a locker like the rest of us. I
should be able to walk up to you. He just
put himself on this pedestal and Sean Baden came in
and said, we ain't putting up with that crap. No,
it's not happening, and a year later shipped him out
to Pittsburgh. Or Pittsburgh pretty much anyone could get away
with anything. There's no rules in Pittsburgh nothing, and yet.
Speaker 1: Like even my top. But the thing is he won
the job because he was a better quarterback than justin field.
Just the field isn't good.
Speaker 5: I don't care, anybody says, And everybody in the locker
room knew Russell Wilson was the better quarterback.
Speaker 1: But he's a pain in the ass. He's a pain
in the ass on the field, he's a pain in
the ass in the huddle. He's a pain in the
ass off the field.
Speaker 5: And he was like when Seattle lost that Super Bowl
to New England where he threw the interception, everybody killed
Darryl the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Russell who threw the interception.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well the teams, like the team actually turned on
Pete Carroll because he defended Russell Wilson when the.
Speaker 1: Reality was you know, yeah it was. It was a
dumb call.
Speaker 4: They should have run it, played a call.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, they could.
Speaker 3: Have just runt.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And since that moment, I think there's even
something out there with Beast Mode saying that they fully
expected it to run, Like yeah, he's like, I would
have made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have got in. Nobody was stopping him.
Nobody's stopping him.
Speaker 5: Everybody in the country thought that was going to be
the play, including the Patriots.
Speaker 4: It's so weird that Mark Shawn Lynch goes on to
be this big personalities and all kinds of ads and stuff.
And when he was in Buffalo, he was like, he
hated it.
Speaker 1: I got I gotta to answer Buffalo. I got him
to answer one question.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 4: I do know what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I hear you.
Speaker 4: But I feel like now the world has shrunk. And
by that, I mean, you know, Josh Allen is making
as much money as well, maybe not as some of
the other quarterbacks, but he is. He's making a tremendous
amount of money. So you can still get up and
go anywhere, you know what I mean, And like LA
is horrible. I'd rather get out of there then party there.
But I see what you're saying, there's still more opportunity.
Speaker 5: I guess people forget that that Marshawn Lynch played in Buffalo. Yeah,
that's how far a mint he is from buff But
his mom was I think came and lived with him
in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah she did.
Speaker 4: And then I think all his money and everything with
to mom, Like she really saved. She took stood by
him in a positive way. But he had he had
his issues in Buffalo and he got a dui. Yeah,
he hit he hit a woman with his car at
one point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, but at the end of the day, though,
you know, we're bringing it back to Russell Wilson. He's
never been worth the headache since they lost that first
Super Bowl in Seattle and people that's why they drove
him out in Seattle. They didn't want to deal with
him anymore. They made this trade Denver thought they had
this huge coup. They end up inheriting a problem and
then he just gets worse.
Speaker 1: He could still play.
Speaker 5: Shit is what NFL team wants to a quarterback, just
thinking that that who's only going to take him so far?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like bring Kirk Cousins at this point.
Speaker 4: No, they didn't want like nobody, nobody in the league.
Nobody wants ringing. The phone's not ringing.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants them.
Speaker 4: But it makes you know. Oftentimes we there are sports
life analogies, sports business analogies, and I think you can
make one here. Don't be bigger than everybody else, or
at least, don't act bigger than everybody else. You know,
who's the the the actor we read I read about
all the time, and it's as everybody just loves and
how great he is canono reeves because he takes care
of all this different stuff, and he gives to charities
and he just practically gives his money. And I think
you would think he walks on water with some of
the things people say. And you'd rather that than Brad Pitt,
who get I've read smells bad and it's a terrible drunk.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what.
Speaker 4: With a hell of a lot more money. Holy fuck,
when have I ever spelled bat? I had that Tom's experience.
Oh my god, you're right, I kept another stick of
deodorant here.
Speaker 3: You are absolutely fucking right.
Speaker 4: But I kept another one in here. But because Kevin
I would catch with of myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it doesn't last long, it's poorly made.
Speaker 4: It's terrible. Because and my brother I think no, because
Tom yes, yes to Apace. No, No, but my brother
goes yeah, it's the worst. It is terrible. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, it's overpriced and it's awful.
Speaker 4: Here's my other NFL thing. Another player that we hear
about I think does not currently have a team. Uh,
super talented, And people say, oh, let's bring him to Buffalo.
Maybe the patri maybe the Patriots with Belichick could could have,
you know, sand to the edges on this guy a
little bit. I'm not sure. Uh, but when allegations an
intimacy mix, it's hard to separate the truth and from
what's just kind of spent, you know what I'm saying,
Our cases like this about justice, money or something else. Entirely.
I asked that question because seriek Kill.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're gonna tell Justin Tucker.
Speaker 4: No, Okay, toreek Kill is in a legal battle with
OnlyFans model Sophie Hall. Sophie Hall is a plus size
model and she also does OnlyFans and I something happened.
They were playing she was over at his house and
they were playing football in the yard, and I guess
he hit her full speed and.
Speaker 1: Broke with Oh wow, okay, I couldn't move very first.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: She's she's not.
Speaker 3: She's used to playing dB. She's just playing the line.
Speaker 1: She's just she's been.
Speaker 3: She's a bigger, but she makes Vince Wolfert look small.
Speaker 4: But she stayed. She stayed, And now she's saying she
had sex with him both the night of the alleged
incident and the.
Speaker 3: Following day, so we hit it on the field and
in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: And she's suing Tarik for fifty grand after claiming he
fractured her leg during a backyard football session. Stayed at
Hill's house for several days after that. She also admitted
in text to her sister that she never explicitly blamed
Hill for intentionally hurting her, stating quote, I got injured
while playing. These revelations raised major questions about the lawsuit's
credibility and the complexity is the high profile allegations. Here's
the thing.
Speaker 3: For fifty grand, just pay the bitch.
Speaker 4: You gotta know. I think there's a lot of people
that do that to make it go away. But the
thing is that do you want to set the precedent
of that happening? And I think people are getting tired
of that. But I'm with you that that's why s well,
this is why so many people fifty grand.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll talk, but for fifty grand, here's the prom
be done.
Speaker 4: Here's the problem. Like this case not not too bad, right,
I'm not sure about three kills. I'm not sure about
three kills. Hang on a second, pardon me one second,
what are you going to be done.
Speaker 3: Later.
Speaker 4: Buddy, Why what's going on? For what? It's a varsity
game and you have to go? Yeah, well, why didn't
you tell me this earlier?
Speaker 3: Daniel will be there in ten.
Speaker 4: And they want everybody at the game. Yeah, what time
is the game?
Speaker 3: It's going on right now? Just wake up?
Speaker 4: Who? Who? Who? Told you about this?
Speaker 1: In the second quarter?
Speaker 4: The team? Yeah, so they just texted you or they
just texted the group and they asked where everybody is? Yeah, Jamison,
do you see the problem with this a little bit?
I didn't even know what's happening? Well, well, how's it
not on you? How's this not on you? It has
it's all to one hundred on you, because I'll explain
because you're.
Speaker 3: On You're on the team, and I just told you
that nobody told me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but buddy, how did everybody else know?
Speaker 1: I don't know one of the problems at the high
school for the girls game.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, there's not a lot I can do about
it now, right, I mean, I don't know what else
I can do? Okay, do you want you were expecting
me to get a drop an uber over to you
and take you out there? Say that, No, I know
you didn't say that, But what I'm saying is that
would be the solutions to the problem. But if it's now,
as we're recording this six forty eight, and you tell
me the game's over at eight.
Speaker 8: All right, let me finish up my stuffy. Can you
get some snacks on the way home too? Am iris
are bad? I know that I'll hear about this, but.
Speaker 3: I have the same.
Speaker 4: Well, the problem is, like, if you knew, I would
give me a minute, you can't do. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is gonna get in trouble for he doesn't go.
Is that the big deal?
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: But if that's the case, we're three smarts. We can
figure out what the hell he.
Speaker 4: Was doing tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Aa anything?
Speaker 3: What you could be at? AA? Where else could he be?
He could be working out of the gym, Yeah, i'd work, Yeah,
meeting my meat something.
Speaker 4: But you would think like you would tell me ahead
of time, Hey, there's a game, can we have that?
Blah blah blah, And instead you're calling me, Oh, it's
already going on and I need to be there.
Speaker 1: Don't they have a schedule?
Speaker 3: Yes, But I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Anyway, tie Kill.
Speaker 3: There's a girl there.
Speaker 4: So I don't know trek Kill's status in terms of
because I know he was on if you go to Netflix,
our friend Alex produced a show and was doing pretty
well on Netflix Wags Wives and Girlfriends, but they were
either so I don't know if some of them are.
Butterik's prominently just in this show, and I think either
his ex wife or his girlfriend's current girlfriend somebody is
in the show. And now that I think has a
couple of different baby mamas. Okay, well, I feel like
he's got a couple two three. I don't know, He's
not quite Nick Cannon.
Speaker 5: Well, didn't he get pulled over and arrested before the
Dolphin season opener?
Speaker 1: Yes, for like speeding, speeding or you don't want to
come out of his car?
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never been worth the headache. That's why
Kansas City like traded him. What the heck were they thinking?
They've been doing really well since.
Speaker 4: But I mean, here's another thing where these guys got
to be careful because you know, apparently he met this
I thought she was a plus sized model. She may
just be a plus size OnlyFans model, and she was
plus sized but very pretty and said her ten year
old son went to his camp. Now, how how many?
How many?
Speaker 1: They picked up? A mom? It's what I'm saying. It's
like shooting fish in a barrel. It's heteen.
Speaker 3: What's your name?
Speaker 4: It's like hopping in a hot tub with teenage hockey player. Yes, exactly,
but I went, that's that's pretty ballsy. Man. You got
one of the camper's mom and she went over to
his house and they were playing. But who knows who
else was around, Maybe the kid would, maybe.
Speaker 3: Her kids were there.
Speaker 4: He had his kids for the weekend.
Speaker 3: The kids play.
Speaker 5: That's how his head coach ended up getting into football.
His head coach, Mike McDaniel, is the step son of
a running back from Denver named Robert Delpino. Robert so
apparently they went to camp in Denver with his mom.
He went to camp with his mom, right and he
left as Charlotte Hornets had at camp. Robert Delpino found it,
said I have your hat, and then like she brings
her son back, which is Mike McDaniel, to meet him
get the hat side. He hits on the mom. He
ends up being the kid's stepdad. He ends up getting
like into coaching and the rest is history.
Speaker 4: For real.
Speaker 1: True story, Yeah, true story, all right, simone to.
Speaker 4: A Rochester radio personality getting married too, found a letter
and took it over to the house.
Speaker 3: Started, Yeah, yeah, our friend, Wow, check this out.
Speaker 1: I'm married now, all right?
Speaker 5: Any other things that the uh okay, so everybody's talking
about Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, just just so read. I think he's going
to an NFC team. That's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, that he is.
Speaker 5: So the odds for his By the way, he's like
campaigning at the super Bowl this week for a new team.
Speaker 1: He's going on every show.
Speaker 5: So all these guys in Buffalo are saying, Buffalo, He's
coming to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: He's gotta come in Buffalo. Okay, here's your odds for
his next team.
Speaker 5: DraftKings is saying he'll resign with the Browns plus three hundred,
meaning you bet a hundred, you'll win three hundred.
Speaker 1: The Commanders, which I think is probably the best option.
Speaker 5: Four hundred Raiders, five hundred Pats, six hundred Cards, eight
to fifty Bears, nine to fifty Chargers, one thousand Lions,
a thousand which is another option because they're a contender.
He wants contenders, Raiders aren't contender stealers, Steelers aren't in
the mix. Packers at twelve hundred, the Bills aren't even
on the freaking list.
Speaker 1: If you really believe that stuff, if you really believe that.
Speaker 5: This guy is gonna come to Buffalo, Hey, radio hosts,
why don't you you're all you all have DraftKings and
all these endorsements.
Speaker 1: Why don't you put one hundred bucks of your own
money on this or else? Shut up about it because
it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but how do we not know? How do we know?
Speaker 3: And by thund picks for this guy?
Speaker 4: How many times have we seen things? The odds and DraftKings.
I can't put any stock on a trade.
Speaker 1: They're not even in the mix.
Speaker 4: I'm there on Draft Kings.
Speaker 5: DraftKings is pretty much the authority right now at this
point on this on trades like betting on a trade,
I get betting on spreads and that story.
Speaker 3: Of betting on a trade.
Speaker 5: Dude, they used to do it with like with the odds,
with the next to Dallas Cowboys head coach, Remember Jerry
Jones five thousand and one.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for Speaking of the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Our friend Matt's take when they're gonna have stuff on
digs next year because Houston has Yeah, he's not gonna
be welcome back.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not back. Well they kind of knew that
when they sign him. It was a one year deal.
But yeah, he's it likes it looks like he's gonna
sign with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Oh brother, the Diggs brothers will be on the Cowboy Yeah.
Oh man.
Speaker 5: I hope Hbo gets hard knocks back, so the Cowboys
another receiver that can't hit.
Speaker 4: All right, We'll take a moment something happening in Rochester
that has been happening around the country. I've never heard
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happening here. And then uh, maybe I'll sit in the
treasure Hunter story, but we'll get to all that. And
then Kevin's got the closest to the pin Super Bowl edition.
Oh yes, well I'm hoping you do because there's a
bonus question, and I go, I'm gonna get crushed in this.
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Speaker 3: What a sunshine?
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think we saw it for
a few minutes earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Did we not have Tuesday?
Speaker 4: I think there was some I feel like this has
been to see it turn the eclipse. That's a shithole
we are. Yeah, I like it here though, I like
this place. I'd like to bring more things to the place.
You know.
Speaker 1: I think we have the people to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we got nice stuff.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ingenious people here.
Speaker 4: Well there's that, and then there's this. A Rochester couple.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: Ryan Fultz and his girlfriend Caitlin Pitts bought a foreclosed
home and auction. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 3: No, so they an auction.
Speaker 4: Is they bought it in the South Wedge, only to
find themselves locked in a nightmare. A squatter occupying the
house not only refused to leave, but then when fults
went to try to talk to this guy threatened to
kill him or threaten him somehow. Okay, I don't think.
Speaker 1: This could be the beginning of an Amazon series.
Speaker 4: Yes it does, sitcom, Yes it does. Despite following the
legal eviction process a multiple scheduled lockout, multiple scheduled lockout dates,
the squatter remains reportedly collecting rent from another unit. So
I don't know if that guy owns something else and
it's just staying whoever the person is staying here, but
allegedly they're collecting rent while faulton his girlfriend, the property taxes.
Speaker 3: Squads and you who bought it probably see.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if he's renting out within the space. They
don't make it clear. They make it sound like it's
another unit.
Speaker 3: Is that front rents a room he's got.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I've heard of squatters in a
house and then charging people like two hundred a month,
really low, low rent. But they get the money because
that's it. They're not maintaining the house. You're not paying anything.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, New York State plus.
Speaker 4: Well, but it's everywhere, is it not. I thought it
was happening in like Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Is happening Atlanta, It's happening in or Dallas. It's happened everywhere, but.
Speaker 3: All the liberal towns.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I don't think that, but I
don't know if it's happened in Dallas, I can't say that.
Speaker 5: I I don't know, but I think in New York
you get away with bore like you have more squatters
rights than babble.
Speaker 4: Police claim they can intervene with a court order. So
they're not going to do anything. And I don't blame
them because you go in there excuse something.
Speaker 1: I know, my god, I just it's dealing with the message.
Speaker 4: I want you to know, like when you see a
police officer, if you get frustrated because you're getting pulled over,
you know, and it is frustrating, Okay, Uh, you just
got to stop and realize they got a million ship
things that are going to happen to them today.
Speaker 1: Just just you know, still right here.
Speaker 3: I used to be on the radio. It's all gone.
I don't want anything.
Speaker 7: That's not what I was trying to say earlier. I
was saying, like, I understand what this one guy. I go, God,
I have a ticket in thirty years.
Speaker 4: That's never mind. Police claim they can't intervene, leaving the
couple homeless and stuck paying for hotels and storage while
their property remains occupied.
Speaker 1: To get a lawyer, I have to get a court
order get this guy out.
Speaker 4: To make matters worse, An Airbnb listening at the home's
address suggests the squatters may even be profiting off this
situation they took. There's an ad where you can airbnb.
It's funny, right, we laugh, but imagine how pissed would
you be? You and Beth. You'll finally you're gonna buy
a home, right, you get the home. You get it
at the office bus. Yeah, and you're all excited. Right,
you're gonna get in there. You got plans for this place.
You know you're gonna start a fan whatever.
Speaker 1: And it is and it walks Saby the squatter, Well.
Speaker 4: Sammy, the squatters there. You can't get in.
Speaker 1: And then you see subletters and you see Sady and
the subletters.
Speaker 3: What if you see an ad for an Airbnb?
Speaker 4: What if what if you buy a night and then
just believe that's interesting to start squatting.
Speaker 3: Squad.
Speaker 4: I couldn't do it. Squad on, squatter, squat I'm very
squatting on the squatter Uh yeah yeah Airbnb. Listening to
the homes address suggest that the squad may have even
been profiting off the situation. Now, faulton pitts say they
no longer feel safe moving in, even if they do
manage to reclaim their home. I don't blame them. I
would want there's hidden dumps in there too, well, probably,
But when I'm saying I would want all the doors,
like the locks changed, I didn't want new windows in
there that can lock. I want some kind of security system.
Speaker 1: That is a nightmare.
Speaker 4: But when squatters can turn a stolen home into a
rental business, that has the legal system failed?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Billy, yes?
Speaker 4: Or or is it just a consequence of protecting tenant's rights?
And I don't. I don't in this situation. I go,
it feels like we've gone you failed the property owners,
did we not? Yes?
Speaker 1: I mean We've gone too far.
Speaker 4: This is this is insanity.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we were seeing this.
Speaker 4: I remember where it was. I thought it was during COVID,
No remember like that. Yes, I think it was, But
like during the housing bubble and stuff too, there were
people that were just staying home. You couldn't get people out.
Speaker 1: And it was during they weren't paying their mortgages, but
they weren't leaving.
Speaker 5: Right right, and I and I think time someone else
has bought your home, Now get the heck out of here.
Speaker 4: I was gonna try to find these people, and they thought,
they don't want to talk about it. They get they're
they're they're miserable. You know what I mean, it's miserable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, We've talked to miserable people
in the past, and they want to have they want
to have an ear in a microphone and someone they
could vent to. Because I'm sure there are other people
who have gone through this in Rochester.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine anybody know anybody. Do you know anybody
that owns homes? You know, you guys do know people,
whether you know it or not, that you know, not
not owns homes, but own second homes that they rent,
rental property. You do have they had problems like this Kevin, No,
he's got guns. Don't know that that's gonna like. That
can almost make it worse, right, Uh?
Speaker 5: Hell, look to my friend, I don't know what's worse
frogging or squatting. Frogging is when somebody lives.
Speaker 1: In your house and you don't even know it. Oh yeah, yeah,
they found a way at home when.
Speaker 4: They live like underneath in the like like the like
Fragle rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Fregles lived in that dude's house. Yeah
that whole time, seven years, never figured it out. Yeah.
Now if I found Fragles in the house, I think
it'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 4: But it would be so funny if because you know,
they've were listening to every conversation. Yeah, they heard every
night you got intimate or didn't.
Speaker 1: And then you go to throw them out like, hey,
I got it, I got you want to two seconds stand?
Speaker 4: Come on, you gotta be better than that. Do you
never heard one for once? It's because you're so selfish, son.
What if like and not I just like you so much,
not your situation or what if the guy you catch
the person and I'm gonna say it's a guy and
you catch the guy and the guy says, uh, something
like you you gotta get out of here, get the
off my property, anybody. I just want to let you
know there's a lot going on when you're not.
Speaker 3: Oh you had the first wife. She had a frog there.
Got got in there and stay there. He did.
Speaker 1: She did, and he lived there for a while after me.
By the way, she tried tucked up the bushes, so
did left track marks.
Speaker 3: I uh.
Speaker 1: She tried to throw me out of the house, just
squat it was what.
Speaker 3: He was as heavy as she couldn't pick him up.
Speaker 4: Did you become a squatter?
Speaker 1: She got right?
Speaker 4: I go.
Speaker 1: You realize you realize this is my residence. I live here.
Speaker 5: You can't just throw me out without a court order?
Are you that stupid? Actually said, are you that stupid?
I didn't think you were that stupid, but you're really stupid.
And that didn't go over work.
Speaker 7: He tended to play the intelligence game with her. Yeah,
you are so stupid that I am so smart. Laugh,
Go make me a cup of coffee, right, bitch, here's
one for you guys.
Speaker 4: Is this stupid or not? This guy? Tommy Thompson. Tommy
Thompson is a research scientist turned treasure hunter.
Speaker 1: Okay and former eighties rockstar.
Speaker 4: And he has been jailed since twenty fifteen for refusing
to disclose the location of five hundred missing gold coins
from the SS Central America also known as the Ship
of Gold, and went down off the coast of the
South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Coins from Lexworth where the guy threw the coade off
the No, the Guardian.
Speaker 4: They're not, this is for real. It went down I
think in like the eighteen hundreds or something. There was
gold on it was off the coast of Carolina. He
allegedly found it, so he he was in contempt at court.
They put him in jail. He and he's got daily
fines of one thousand dollars and this prolonged legal battle.
On top of that, he has remained tight lipped, claiming
the treasure was placed in a trust in Belize, so
he got it and it's there. His refusal to comply
as frustrated authorities, leading to its extended incarceration beyond the
typical eighteen month federal contempt limit. When you're in contempt
at court, it's usually eighteen months. Why thought there was
a loss suit.
Speaker 3: Though a judge going down there were a free game.
Speaker 4: They were, but I think there was some kind of
research that they wanted the goal to match some missing
coins that they had somewhere else. And this wound up
in a legal battle, and then they're saying that either
he didn't show up for court, so now they're holding
him in contempt. At court, he did not resist the rest.
He's been in jail, and then a judge recently ruled
that further imprisonment is unlikely to get him to coerce. Right,
this is to get it to coerce the guy. But
it's been for ten years. He ain't gonna tell you
if he hasn't said it in ten years, but ordered
him to serve an additional two year sentence for related
criminal contempt charge. It sounds like to me, that's a
complete waste of money. Yeah, it's a complete You didn't
have it when it was on the bottom of the ocean,
and you don't have it now, right, And you're strong
arming a guy he went out and did this, did.
Speaker 1: The dirty work about you want to reap the benefits
for that?
Speaker 4: The case, Uh, not my America.
Speaker 3: Well, let's police right.
Speaker 4: Uh. The case raises intriguing questions about legal power, treasure ownership.
Speaker 1: I thought possession was nine tenths of the law built. Well, look,
is this a bogs in a museum and in my
bank account?
Speaker 4: Is Tommy Thompson from the Thompson Twins, defiant genius protecting
his treasure just to submern outlaw.
Speaker 5: And I would say, if you get the guts to
do to go down to get this treasure, you're gonna
have the guts to sit.
Speaker 1: It out too.
Speaker 4: Well, what point does refusing to comply become a heroic
stand versus self imposed downfall?
Speaker 1: And right now it's leaning on self imposed down Faul admire.
Speaker 4: The fact that this guy is basically just going f you.
I'm not saying anything. Yeah, it's he's not gonna say anything.
We're it's not gonna compell him to do it. So
let's put it in for two more years. Would this
guy ten years when the contempted court is eighteen months?
I'm trying remember what Marion Jones? Why did I think
Marion Jones got the OJ sentence got ten years for ship? Well, yeah,
but she was lying under still ten years. I don't
know if that. I don't know if it was ten years.
That's why I'm saying, I don't know. Content to court.
Would be I don't show up rightually. The other would
be perjury where you're lying.
Speaker 1: I think that's what she got there.
Speaker 4: She got perjured, and I thought it was ten years.
I thought she got ten years for that. But she
was a sprinter. And for people who don't know, but
this is, uh, where's.
Speaker 5: The due process and where's the lawyer's going to step
up and try to make a name for himself by
taking the case.
Speaker 1: There's always one they run for Governor.
Speaker 4: Tommy Thompson may have just got Look, I'm a fucking
paying for a lawyer. I don't care. Do whatever you
want to me. I'm not telling you. I almost feel
like he's that kind of guy. He's he when you're
dealing with like brilliant mind research, science minds, they usually
don't need a lot to survive. They don't, you know,
it's not about the money for them, it's not about
the fame. They will wear the same clothes. They don't
care to throw a lap coat over it. It's fine,
you know what I'm saying. Like, it's just they don't
care the.
Speaker 1: Thrill of the of the of just watching this unfold
almost what you.
Speaker 4: Find six months you were way off, Yeah, I was
way off. I don't know why I thought ten years.
I really don't I and I started to think that's wrong.
I've been saying ten years months since she did forty
nine days in solitary, and I don't think she did.
Who more than six months? Forty nine days in solitary
sounds awful, though, That's that's some.
Speaker 3: People choose that fucking dream to me.
Speaker 1: Some people, really, some people choose solitary, some people for
almost two months. I know it's a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, with nothing, just those four walls.
Speaker 1: You don't get books, well maybe, but nobody to talk
to you, like, I don't know how it works.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. I know, Kevin.
Speaker 3: Like an hour and a half today before I came here,
it was quiet. I'm like, oh god, this is amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm volunteering on.
Speaker 3: Let me in.
Speaker 4: Let me.
Speaker 7: You're not gonna want to You're gonna want to deep
clean that cell when you're done too.
Speaker 3: Oh God, Jesus be farting and stuff.
Speaker 4: Peg.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I have somebody today that telling a story about they
laughed so hard they actually ship themselves. I believe it,
like ship and they.
Speaker 3: Go watching your set.
Speaker 4: You don't know, oh, I know, telling jokes, Danny, how
are you feeling on your super Bowl facts?
Speaker 1: Here we'll find out knowledge.
Speaker 5: This could be this, this could be it, this could
I could lose here. I don't think so, no, but
I have a feeling like Kevin's gonna like rig the game,
like the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Oh, how do you rig a game? I'm not rigging Ship.
I like the embarrassed bill. He kidding me.
Speaker 4: It's his favorite thing. Okay, alright, he loves That's why
he looks over at my papers sometimes and he says, Ship,
that isn't even true. You do you say ship that
you didn't anything down? I wrote something down?
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: By the way, uh, my brother who listens in Tampa, Yeah, yeah,
he says. My nephew, who's four years old, has the
theme song memorized or the open of the show memorized.
Like he listens to the show with the kids in
the car so often that the kid will actually do
the intro with him.
Speaker 4: Oh, Harry Jacobs, Harry Lee, Harry leg Yeah, from the studios.
I got to get Harry to cut some new stuff.
I've been very lazy with that. Kevin said to me,
to get a new one.
Speaker 3: I got to write him first.
Speaker 4: No, No, that would help h.
Speaker 3: Five or six rom the start. What happened to the
other ones?
Speaker 4: They're all well, because that Peter, No, I have I
have stuff on a shared drive.
Speaker 3: On the drive, you could probably pull it off of
the web.
Speaker 4: I could get it somewhere. There's lots of ways to
do it, Kevin, There's lots lots of ways to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I want to get an intern because I want
to are Yeah. I want to do some other things
and I need another We need people, yeah, so I'd
like to get them.
Speaker 3: Where's the first place we send them?
Speaker 1: Squatters for the show?
Speaker 4: Not squatters?
Speaker 3: I want to do govert damon govern Mont Countries. Are
a blowjob shots? See how long it takes?
Speaker 4: Okay, one time and it was a coat, It was
how much it does a blow job cost at a
gay bar? And I was somebody ordering a blow.
Speaker 3: Blow job?
Speaker 4: Shot? How much did it cost?
Speaker 3: Maybe they could take the mark card?
Speaker 4: So the over the the edgy radio bit for twenty
five year old Bill Moran was you know, how much
is it a blowjob at a gay bar? And then
it blew up in my face because I got suspended
because they did that.
Speaker 1: Not that they suspend you, but they took your producer
and gave them the wheeze.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 3: We could bring back some of the classic shit you
did with it in turn, make this motherfucker work for
that a.
Speaker 4: I uh, there was one intern I sent out.
Speaker 3: First job, figure out Bill's calendar.
Speaker 4: God, that would be number one. No, I want to
do some I want to do some other things that
will just require more, and I go, we need some
extra hand.
Speaker 5: I know a guy who used to pay his interns
when they were paid to watch his kids on the
company dime.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 3: But I know a producer who didn't pay his producer
to watch his kids company. That is true.
Speaker 4: I didn't pay.
Speaker 1: There was no there was you did, but I wouldn't
take your money.
Speaker 4: I don't remember that you did.
Speaker 3: His next wife was cheating on that.
Speaker 1: I told you I was gonna get Yeah, that was
funny though it was good.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll take him moment.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that.
Speaker 4: We'll come back with my wife never left me.
Speaker 3: Two fuckers.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm my second wife, which is great.
Speaker 3: It will be soon too.
Speaker 4: We will Uh no, I will never.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen a woman webster house.
Speaker 4: Mom, we will take uh that bus when we come back. No,
the bus, honey, you're a.
Speaker 3: Hair cuts for free? All right?
Speaker 4: That's yay, that's not even that's not even true. Speaking
of webs you see, it's fine. You're not helping dad
owners closing. He's gonna change the subject real fast. Yeah,
you're you're alluding to something that because somebody has a
big mouth. I know, yeah, but it's not there's nothing.
I'm not a woman.
Speaker 3: What do you expect.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mouth. I would never do anything not with that?
Not bad? Is this?
Speaker 1: His friends?
Speaker 3: Like for the what's what's the the bonus show? We
got what's we'll talk about it there.
Speaker 1: The bonus show, the bonus Show?
Speaker 4: Yes, what do you what do you call it?
Speaker 3: The subscriber?
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Speaker 1: Sports athletics throw some sports takes.
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Speaker 3: Because baby, now.
Speaker 4: We got bad. You know we used to be bad.
Speaker 1: So take a look what you've done. Because baby now
we got bad.
Speaker 6: I can't take it back. Look where I'm at. We
was O d I d oc remember dead. My doc
was quite Oh d I d effects now p O
B of you and me some of the IX. I
don't hate you, but I hate to critique, over rate you,
these beats of a drug calling these basic glass to
replace you, take time and erase you.
Speaker 4: No go yeah, no, no, no, no fear, no moment
again respecting questions. Hear no boat, I'm not playing that
for Taylor. I was doing it because Kendrick Lamar, who
is featured in there, is the halftime show at the
super Bowl. And I didn't pull up Kendrick and I
don't know some language.
Speaker 3: I just auto tune.
Speaker 7: Kendrick Lamar is sounding like a forty year old white guy.
If you listen to it, sounds like a white guy.
That sounded like Kendrick to me, I I went out.
Speaker 3: I have never listened to Ken Lamar, so I couldn't
tell you about him.
Speaker 4: I bought, uh, I have his album to Pimp a Butterfly,
and I loved it. I just thought it gave you
a great view of a different part of society.
Speaker 3: The only Lamar I respect is Lamar from Revenge of
the Nerds.
Speaker 4: Uh So Lamar odom Lamar o Lamar from Lamarr Jackson
Mar Jackson. Yeah, and Lamar Kendrick Lamar and he will
be the halftime show at the super Bowl on Sunday.
So I wait and see what happens.
Speaker 1: I'm curious now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I like him. I don't know. I mean
now that I mean, will Taylor show up? Some people
wonder because of that song and some other things, but
I I don't think so. I think he's gonna be
solo and whatever he's gonna do. I am interested actually
to see that. I'm actually watching for the halftime show
in the commercials.
Speaker 3: I gonna win broad this year. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: That's how little interest I have. I hope Sakuan goes off.
I hope he has a great season and I revenge
on the Giants a little bit, right, going all the way?
All right, Kevin, closest to the pin. We haven't played
this in a while? Question number one? What year was
the first Super Bowl to have a streaker?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Tall?
Speaker 4: I did the research.
Speaker 3: Oh man, what super Bowl year had the first streaker?
Number two? Super Bowl number five was the first super Bowl.
Speaker 7: To be played between the AFC and NFC. Since then,
how many wins does the NFC have?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Since super Bowl five?
Speaker 7: You said, yes, super Bowl five was the first one
to be played between the conferences. It's a FL NFL up.
Speaker 4: Until that point, there was a lot of math.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a streak for a while.
Speaker 3: Streaker was the last question. Uh, don't forget to carry
the purple land.
Speaker 4: I got my answer. What is the highest combined total
score in a Super Bowl? Oh? I think I've known
the answer to that, well, that the highest combined score
that it seems crazy high when I just wrote down
that would be crazy high highest mine.
Speaker 7: Okay, what was the first Super Bowl logo to feature
a Roman numeral? So which super Bowl had the first
Roman numeral in the logo? Budweiser has purchased the most
ads during Super Bowl in history? How many ads has
Budweiser run over the years?
Speaker 4: How many ads? How many times?
Speaker 3: How many? Because there was a series of bud Bowls
that had the frogs?
Speaker 4: I know, but like is that one commercially? Yeah?
Speaker 3: How many ads has Budweiser run.
Speaker 4: Over the years?
Speaker 3: Once? My god, more fucking math over here?
Speaker 4: Stop it just stop.
Speaker 5: I missed the bud Bowls that was cool, that was innovative,
or the three D commercial for doctor Pepper.
Speaker 1: I think in Super Bowl twenty three I tryed to.
Speaker 3: Do math over he shut out.
Speaker 1: Figure out, there's my fraternal twin talking.
Speaker 4: Fuck it whatever.
Speaker 3: This next one is the thinking man's question.
Speaker 7: How many different teams that have won the Super Bowl
represent a city that has or had all four major sports?
How many different teams have been winning the Super Bowl
represented the city that has had or had all or
major sports, hockey, basketball, baseball, and basketball?
Speaker 3: Ye, how many winners? How many teams yep? That have
won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: It seems low, okay?
Speaker 4: And then the bonus question, it's gonna be fourth minus
fifty if you were the closest.
Speaker 7: It's minus one hundred if you're in the hole. How
many Super Bowls has our good friend Greg Connors attended,
it's a.
Speaker 1: Great American.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Back to the top. What year was the first Super
Bowl to have a streaker?
Speaker 4: I said nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: I said seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 7: That hurts streaker Gate, Oh, that hurts. Super Bowl five
was the first two role to be played between the
AFC and NFC. How many wins since then has the
NFC had?
Speaker 1: I said twenty seven?
Speaker 3: I said twenty seven as well, it is twenty nine.
The AFC also has twenty nine. What is the highest
total combined score in a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Ninety six?
Speaker 3: Was it Eagles and Pats?
Speaker 4: I said seventy two, seventy five forty nine ers forty
nine chargers?
Speaker 3: Twenty six.
Speaker 1: Was the score of the pat superw WHL they lost
the Eagles seventy four? Said wow?
Speaker 3: What was the first super Bowl to feature a logo
with a Roman numery, the only one.
Speaker 4: I remember what I said, super Bowl nine, super Bowl three,
super Bowl five.
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that?
Speaker 3: Positive?
Speaker 5: I told you because I remember I had a picture
of the of the football card that said super Bowl
three with three because the first two super Bowls were considered.
Speaker 1: But did they do the championship game time though?
Speaker 4: Did they do it at the time of the Super
Bowl itself or did it go back?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's what I don't remember. I only remember nine as
a kid, but I don't know why. Okay.
Speaker 7: How many ads is Budweiser run during the Super Bowl
in its history?
Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty one?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I was going around there too, I said,
two hundred.
Speaker 3: One forty two.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: The thinking man's question.
Speaker 7: How many different teams have won the Super Bowl representing
usony that's had or has all four major sports?
Speaker 3: Long basketball, basketball and the hockeys?
Speaker 4: Eleven?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, I didn't know. I wrote sixteen. It
is ten New York Jets, Miami, Washington, LA, Chicago, the
New York Giants, Denver, New England.
Speaker 3: Slash Boston and Silly.
Speaker 1: Did you say Dallas.
Speaker 3: Dallas does not.
Speaker 1: Dallas is baseball, Yeah they do. The Texas Rangers are
from Dallas, Texas Arlington.
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, seriously, the Jets and the Giants play
in the meadow lads.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I told you a bitch.
Speaker 7: And how many Super Bowls has our good friend, mister
doctor Greg Hunters esquire?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 3: Doctor ended?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I said eleven.
Speaker 4: He is a doctor.
Speaker 3: I read doctor.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna lose this. I lot that that
two hundred on the Budweiser commer needs greve me because
I was sixty four. I was right in this. I
was seven off of the first one, two, three, four,
sixty four and then six. So you need this, I
said twenty two.
Speaker 1: I said eleven.
Speaker 3: Bill ran minus fifty. It is nineteen nineteen. First one
he said he went to was the Eagles, No, Steelers
and Dallas. It was one in Detroit.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: That was Super Bowl Excel.
Speaker 4: So first that was yes, let's see. Uh so you
got minus fifty for the last one seven plus two
plus three plus four plus sixty four plus six. They
did it.
Speaker 1: Had you got a calculator, I had forty six points.
Speaker 3: It's a fifty minus forty five serious thirty.
Speaker 1: Six, maybe with the minus fifty okay.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, Danny, I was the two hundred is what the
Budweiser commercial. I had no idea because I was thinking.
I think I did try math on that one, and
I came up with like one hundred and thirty two,
and I go, it's gonna be worn net So I
wrote two hundred. I thought you had written down ten
initially for the four sports, but I think it was
a sixteen. It was a sixteen, sixteen six. Then I
wrote twenty three. Then I went back to sixteen. I lose.
I lost in the regular season, Danny, but god, damn
that playoffs man thirteen seconds for that bonus question.
Speaker 3: So all it took was thirteen seconds.
Speaker 4: See, it's unfair. It's sort of an unfair quest because
I've known Greg for almost I wrote twenty two. I'm
figuring he was going longer. Now apparently not well enough,
right is he going? I believe so should be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we should have called.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say we didn't call him.
Speaker 4: Well, I uh, try it.
Speaker 3: I bring him up.
Speaker 4: I tried. I tried calling him. I wanted to talk
to him off. I tried calling him, and then he
and I were playing phone tag and I didn't get hold.
Speaker 3: I can just bet you's sitting at the NFL Honors dinner.
Speaker 1: He's probably there.
Speaker 3: That bitch pilm Ran is a ring tone? Is bitch
the cow branch.
Speaker 4: Let me see. I don't think I'm connected because I
had Jamison before too, right, Uh, standby for a broadcast misery. Yeah,
when was he going down? Do you know?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He might have been all right, this is.
Speaker 1: Gonna take forever now, Josh Allenson attendance at the awards ceremony.
Speaker 4: Well, we expect him to get an MVP or not.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: You know from what everybody says about the balloting with
the All pros, typically the All Pro.
Speaker 1: First Team or wins the MVP.
Speaker 4: And who is that?
Speaker 1: La Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 4: So Lamar would win three in a row.
Speaker 1: He would win three and five years?
Speaker 4: Oh, three and five years. Hu.
Speaker 1: There've only been.
Speaker 5: Two MVPs since ninety nine that have won the Super Bowl,
Kurt Warner and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: Look at Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was in essence this rookie season.
No one saw that coming No, he was fantastic that year.
He was all world all right. I think we finally
are able to connect to mister Connor.
Speaker 1: In such an unit.
Speaker 4: He's probably not the NFL Honors.
Speaker 3: He's probably standing next to Roger Mandell right now, this
fucking guy in this goddamn podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh missed them. Maybe he's on a plane.
Speaker 1: Could be.
Speaker 4: The waste management openings was going on today.
Speaker 3: I'm going his face down at the barn, great goose
of waters.
Speaker 4: Well, he's in New Orleans. Read old whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa.
Speaker 3: To zero sixty nine six likes it wrong?
Speaker 4: Anybody going to uh anywhere to watch the game. No, no, no,
you're going anywhere.
Speaker 3: I'm meeting Greg down in New Orleans, are you?
Speaker 4: Oh look, that's cool, that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What are you going? As a parade flow from already?
Speaker 3: Greg?
Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say, padd O'Bryan, No, have a
couple of hurricanes.
Speaker 3: You gotta fight Danny's battles for him.
Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, like, is it is
it like? Is it fat Tuesday coming up soon?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like a perfect storm.
Speaker 4: Yes, well it's it's lent it's a good time to
be down in the non lens. It's a good old party.
Speaker 1: Yes, so terrorist attack everything.
Speaker 4: There's not gonna be a terrorist said there.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a night long ball if Trump shows up,
because he well he may not. You never know it. Sorry,
too much bullshit.
Speaker 4: Would try to get Taylor Swift and you're gonna try
to get Trump into all security.
Speaker 1: And those refs.
Speaker 4: He did say game, didn't he He did say he
was going, yeah, save the ticket. Do you think he
has to have a ticket or can he just walk
up and be like hi? I don't depends on who's
at the gates. I guess I don't know. I think
he could walk up and say hi. I think I
think it's an honor to have the president of the
United goes up to the bott anything on the fifty airline, Sorry,
miss Trump, that's we got supper corner, end zone. Still
interested up near the ceiling.
Speaker 3: Get us sit next to this guy named Greg Conners.
Speaker 4: All right for Kevin, great game, well done.
Speaker 3: No no no, you've earned it.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no no, I lost the game. That
the other thing was unfair.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
Speaker 4: I just celebrated like you one in the fas because
it's Danny by the way, but there were.
Speaker 5: Eleven, eleven cities that had all fourteens, and he took
that away from me like that, like the refs took
away that fourth and one.
Speaker 3: From the bills. Yellow line is not the marker. Well, Dallas,
there's a lion.
Speaker 4: What I like, though, is you went to the bathroom
and he goes, there's a question here. He's definitely gonna
argue with me on and I did research. I did
my research. He said that what he said, he did
argue with you. You know, we will I'm Bill Moran.
Speaker 3: We'll see you Monday.
Speaker 4: Enjoy the game, just bring the greater Candi legend tail
seeing things.
Speaker 3: But she someone taking works of what she was slinging.