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Speaker 3: Welcome in the six foot two, two hundred and forty

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forty pounder out of currents Utah. We got Jack Kelly,

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former BYU great linebacker.

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Speaker 4: What's up Jack? How are you guys doing? Awesome man

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number one.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on a great career, great season, great final season

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at BYU, and also like a cherry on top one

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of the best pro Day slash combine performances in BYU

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football history coming in, I think like it may have

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been a top five ross score. It's that relative athletic

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score that combines all of these different elements of the

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Pro Day and combine and compares it to other combine

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scores historically. You have like a top five rating athletically

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all time in BYU football history.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's a cherry on top. Great job.

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Speaker 5: Hey, sure, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: What went into that? Man? Like, how was it that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you've always been a good athlete, but

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tell us a little bit about what went into that

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and all the preparation in order to maximize your athletic ability.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I moved down to Fort Myers, Florida, and

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I was training down there for about two months. But

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you also got to give credit to I have a

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guy out here in Salt Lake named Total Athlete Training,

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and then all the strength coaches at BYU just helping

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me preserve and get better throughout the seasons, the off seasons,

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and then when I got down to Fort Myers, it

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was kind of just got to really refine the little

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details and put in the work, stay disciplined on your

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meal plan, do all the little things, and so it's

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really just a testament to all the coaches I've had

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and setting the right example for me coming up through this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what were you most happy about with your combine

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performance pro day performance?

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Speaker 5: I think my biggest thing was the position drills. I

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think just showing the scouts that I can move. Some

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of them thought I was a little stiff previously, so

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that was a big emphasis offseason. Was just showing that

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I'm fluid and I can drop, I can pass rush,

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just showing a little bit of it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you've made some doubters into believers.

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I felt like with your performance in the combine as

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well as the field drill, I feel like you elevated

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Speaker 4: Have you gotten that feedback as.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, still a little early to tell.

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I mean, we don't really know until draft day comes.

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and showed what I wanted to show, so hopefully that

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improved my draft stock. But at the end of the day,

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it's kind of hard to know. You don't really know

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what teams need or want until draft day comes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's awesome to watch the progress. Right, Like

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from where you were coming out in high school, underrated,

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under recruited, You go to Weber, you end up at BYU.

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highest of levels at that time when you were coming

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out of high school? What was the mindset like when

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you came out of high school ended up at Weber.

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Speaker 4: Was it a little bit of a.

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Speaker 3: Kind of an eye opening experience when you got to

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BYU and you were as dominant as you were even

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at all these other levels that you had played at.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it really just comes down to like betting

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on yourself and trusting in your work in preparation. So

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it wasn't doubt. It was always I felt like I

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could play at this level. So I was like working

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as hard as I could do and all the extra stuff,

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do in order to be successful. So I was kind

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of my mindset going into Weavers, like, I'm grateful I

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get to play college football. A lot of people don't

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get to get this opportunity, so I'm just gonna take

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full advantage of it. I'm gonna work hard. Listening to

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my coaches, and I'm grateful for the journey that I

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Speaker 4: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: What would you say is your your your most memorable

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moment as a BYU Cougar Jack, when you reflect on

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your career at b YU, what are some of the

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memorable moments or the most memorable moment that you had.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's really too many to count or the list,

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but one super memorable moment I guess it'd be two

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would be Utah the Utah game both years. I mean

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that first game getting back to Provo and just seeing

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all the fans and everyone being there, and then this

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year as well, just having that in Provo. I think

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good game, good competition. So I think those two games

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Speaker 3: Big games in big moments for you and one of

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the things that I actually was most impressed by. And

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I think this problem is going to help your NFL

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career as well. You suffered an injury this year, an

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upper trimity injury. You rehabed it, got back on the

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field of play, you played through injuries, had surgery obviously

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at the end of the year, I think that that

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show's kind of great in fortitude and the toughness that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean it was really just sacrificing

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for my brothers out there. Like I knew, I wanted

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to be out there with them, fighting, competing. Everyone on

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it's little or dig So it was really just wanting

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to do it for them and just a brotherhood that

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we had that made me want to go out there

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and try to play to the best of my ability,

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to contribute as much as I could, and then just

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to be out there fighting. Like you you don't want

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to miss those opportunities out there with your brothers. You

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only get so limited amount of them, so just every

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opportunity I try to take full advantage.

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Speaker 3: Of Jack Kelly former b YU great talking some ball

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here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network. What was the

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experience like at the combine? It always feels like it's rushed.

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you mentally, emotionally, and then obviously then do the physical

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component to it. Cortisol levels are high, you know, and

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it's almost like it feels like they're like trying to

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dehydrate you in things before you get out there, trying

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to like lessen your athletic potential.

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Speaker 4: Give us a little breakdown of what happened there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's definitely like a quick trip kind of

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like you mentioned, you kind of fly in, do all

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your medicals, do what they need to see, and then

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they're going to keep you up with meetings, doing team interviews,

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stuff like that. Go to the hospital, make sure everything's

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checked out from head to toe, get all the teams

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what they need to see. I mean, yeah, you're super

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busy pretty much the whole entire day, so you're getting

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back to your room pretty late, so you're trying to

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just fit in water meals wherever you can. And then

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obviously the sleep component, they definitely are trying to test you.

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out a little later, gonna get you up a little earlier.

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the little things like eating and sleeping and then trying

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to get your training into just finding little segments of

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the day where you had a little break, maybe an

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hour break where you just go get that training segment

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in real quick and then go back to meetings or

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whatever was planned for that day.

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Speaker 3: What was the weirdest questions that you were asked during

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Speaker 5: You know, I've heard a lot of stories about people

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getting asked weird questions, but I didn't get asked anything

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that was like out of the norm. So I was

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grateful for that based on some of the stories I've heard,

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and like just some of the like scouts or Coast

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or whatever it may be trying to get like a

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Speaker 3: There was a number of guys that got the invite

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to the combine. Obviously, Chase Roberts got the invite. I

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believe Garrison Grimes went out there, Wilf Farron, and so

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Speaker 4: See all those guys there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of felt like there was a few

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other guys that should have maybe merited an invite. I

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thought Timmer Waald, you know, a big twelve All Conference player,

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he tested out extremely well at his PRODA. I thought

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he could have maybe got that invite as well. Your

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invite and what doesn't and who if your teammates, did

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Speaker 4: Maybe got shafted in that regard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't necessarily knows what goes into that getting

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the invite process. I mean, I definitely think there's more

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of the guys that should have. Pretty much everyone at

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pro Day had a great protay, so if they would

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have been at the Combine, they would have tested phenomenally well.

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They all had great seasons. But at the end of

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the day, all they need is a shot. All of

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us need is just one shot. So Combine obviously helps

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a little bit, but the numbers that they put up

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at the pro Day is definitely all that they needed

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to show. All of them went through position drills really well.

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So I'm super happy and I love the way they

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attack the process and I'm really hoping that everyone gets

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a shot, and I think they'll all strive in the

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opportunity that they do get.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a couple of like underrated guys I

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feel like that are coming out in this class.

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Speaker 4: I think Tannel Wall is one of them.

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Speaker 3: I think Austin Leousa is also an underrated guy. You

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had to go against Austin a lot I think as

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a linebacker, either coming off the edge or going up

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the middle of what stands out to you about Austin

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. Him and Way and I think have

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great opportunities ahead of them. Just their physicality, the smart

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the IQ part of the game that they do have,

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just being able to understand defenses, read defenses, call blitzes out,

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like if we started creeping too early, they would call

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those out. So they just have high IQ and that's

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really what translates well to the NFL. They already got

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the physical aspect, they just tested well, showed the teams

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what they needed to see, and now it's just really

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showing the teams the IQ side of the thing, which

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they did on film. But then once they get in

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able to show and I think those are going to

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Speaker 3: Jack Kelly, former BYU, great linebacker here on Utah's ESPN

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Radio Network and Cougar Sports. Jack, you got coach up

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by some good coaches down there at BYU, and they

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got a good thing going right now. Two consecutive seasons

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of double digit wins eleven and two and twelve and two.

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For those that are evaluating going to BYU right now,

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what's the pitch right to get them in BYU Blue

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and get coached up by some of these coaches and

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be a part of a unique and singular locker room.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean just the culture that Kilani has, it's

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a winning culture. We look at the past two years

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and what they're building, it's just going to continue to

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grow and develop into something bigger and better. I think

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the guys that they brought in this year, the guys

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returning from last year, I think they're gonna have an

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even better season than the year we just had. So

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I think it's just going to be a continuous winning

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program that's just going to continue to get better, especially

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under all the coaching staff that they have up there.

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They have the right mindset, the football IQ. They can

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develop you the way you need to be developed, and

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winning at the end of the day is the best

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thing in football, and that's what they do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, b Yu's moving in a

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unique direction right now. It's becoming like they talk about

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the glory days of like the eighties and nineties. I

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feel like these are the new glory days for BYU

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since twenty to twenty, a lot of double digit wins,

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a lot of NFL talent speak to what makes Kilane's

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culture so special.

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Speaker 5: I think just the way he allows the players to

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run things, He allows play it to be a player

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led team, which helps for us building that brotherhood and

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that bond that we have with each other. I mean,

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he's gonna step in and yell when he needs so,

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he's gonna what a head coach needs to do, but

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he's he's allowing the players to control it. To make

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sure we're pushing the tempo, make sure we're all holding

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each other accountable. And I think at the end of

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the day, if you're able to compete at a high

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level with your brothers and you, you guys are the

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ones leading each other, that's the teams that are going

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to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Jack, what's next for you? What what goals do you have?

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Speaker 3: What's the next I guess weeks and months look like

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for you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just going to continue to be training, try to

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get better in every way that I can, get in shape,

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continue to do football work on the field, and then

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just kind of play the waiting game. Hopefully I get

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that opportunity and then try to attack it and be

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as best as I can.

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Speaker 4: So, where you're training at right now and who you're

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training with.

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Speaker 5: I'm training at Total Athlete Training and the guy's name

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is Christian Sandibal.

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Speaker 3: What stood out to you about I mean, look, you

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had some high level training at BYU, Skyler Maine, Ryan Phillis,

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Colby Class and all those guys.

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Speaker 4: They do fantastic work.

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Speaker 3: What has stood out to you about the training that

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you've received after BYU.

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Speaker 5: It's all very similar to what they did, actually, so

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it's all positive things. It just shows and really allows

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me to understand the level of knowledge that they have

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at the BYU that they're all doing the right things.

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They're building guys the right way, they're allowing us to

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grow in the ways that we need to. So I

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think it's all very similar. And nothing has been really

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like where I'm shocked that we didn't do that before.

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Everything has been what we did at BYU, what we

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did for injury prevention, injury rehabs. So it's all been

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very similar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool to see that BYU over the last

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three years, three or four years has implemented some of

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the highest level training, sports science, nutrition combination, and I

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imagine like you.

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Speaker 4: Reaped a lot of those rewards from.

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Speaker 3: A body composition standpoint and athleticism standpoint. Like what stood

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out to you about that development process over the last

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few years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just the things that you didn't really know and

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you're like, is this gonna work? You just trust them

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and then ends up working like way more than any

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other movement or any other meal plan, any other injury

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prevention rehab. And then you just really look back and like, Okay,

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I can trust these guys with everything with my body,

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and then you go to them for everything. You get

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a little nick and you're like, just go to them,

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and it feels better within two days. So it's really

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just them putting together a program and then the players

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trusting and believing in it, and then following everything that

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they say. If they say, oh, we need to get

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you a little more mobility here, you're gonna do it

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because you know they have your best interests in mine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Kelly former BYU great talking some Cougar football, Jack,

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you know this roster better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who can fill your shoes? Bro?

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Speaker 3: I mean those are big shoes to fill. I call

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you the Juggernaut dude. You're like that X Man, Juggernaut dude,

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just running around Jack Kelly, the Juggernaut. If you haven't

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gotten the intellectual property up and running yet with shirts

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and paraphernalia, all this stuff, you need to because you

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are the Juggernaut, my friend. But who's gonna fill the

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shoes of the juggernaut man?

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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of guys that our linebacker

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room is beat. I mean, obviously they got Ka Luave there,

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Jake Clifton, who I've heard they've both been playing really

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well in springball, Miles Halls, y'a l a a Micah.

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I mean there's that was the deepest linebacker room I've

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ever seen or like looked at, and every one of

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them can play. So I have no worries in mind

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that someone's gonna step into that role and excel at

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a high level, just based off of the work that

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they put in, the extra work. I'm always staying ready,

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always getting better, and yeah, it's definitely gonna be easy.

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Not I don't I don't know how to say this,

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but it's to be someone that's gonna fill it and

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they're gonna excel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. Man. Well, like who's the pass

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rusher though?

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Speaker 3: I mean, see you you were divers in your skill

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set when you could be a second level defense defender

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Philly A Gaps obviously be involved in that blitz game

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that gets linear. I think you demolished a number of

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running backs along your way that tried to, you know,

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pass pro on you. And then you could also be

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lined up as a stand up outside edge guy in

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the and A seven technique. I wouldn't be surprised if

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you could have employed a little five tech too, taken

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on some pulling guards, et cetera. But you know, being

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able to win off the edge in pass rushing situation.

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Speaker 4: Who fits that mold the mass? Do you think?

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. I mean Cayle Seely, I

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think he's been playing some backer and he's kind of

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doing that where he played DM last year, and I

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think he's going to be a phenomenal player, so he

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could definitely fill into that role. I mean, all those

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linebackers they do that I mentioned, they work with coach

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Chad every day, so we're all doing the same drills

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getting better at that. I think that's a huge test

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meant to Coach Chad and his ability to develop the

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needs that the team, that the team needs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no one talks enough about Chad K. We're all

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worried that, you know. You know, look, you were a

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j Hill guy. You got recruited, you got developed by

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Jay Hill. His scheme came over from Weaver to b

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Y you, et cetera. I want to talk about Jay here,

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but like, I don't know if we talk enough about

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Chad K and the the the impact that he's had

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at b YU quietly behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, for sure, he's definitely a behind the scenes

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type of guy. All though the pass rush work that

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we did every day was second to none. I mean

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the film work that he would do. With the film study,

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he'd come into our meeting rooms and give us a

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breakdown on the O line we're playing, what moves are

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going to work. So it's really just that extra step

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that we needed, just understanding, just adding that little extra

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detail we needed going into game day. Rather than just

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studying like the run game in pass game, we'd also

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study past sets where they're going to shoot their hands.

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So I think Coach Chad is a definitely an underrated

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part of the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, love that that breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Look, we lost Jay, we lost Gennaro, lost gav all

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big losses. Uh, what makes you optimistic that we can

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that we've filled we got we've got those shoes filled

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as well, and we can, Uh, we can be as

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effective as productive defensively as we were even last year

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as K Pop at the Helm. I think Lewis Walker's

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your your quarnerbacks coach obviously Tomorrow Warren, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: But some big shoes to feel.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, Yeah, for sure, And that's just where he trust. Kilane.

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He knows what he's doing, He's got the right guys,

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he knows he needs to hire. Putting coach h K

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Pop there, he's been in this defense, he knows it,

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he understands it. He's gonna be just as successful. All

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the defensive minds that I was around all season, they're

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all super smart, they all know what they're talking about.

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And then Kilane he knows what he's doing, he knows

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who the guys he needs, what kind of culture he

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needs those guys to be. And all the coaches he's

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hired ever one said they've loved. So definitely think that

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This offseason has been a positive and they did everything

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they needed to do to have another successful season.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know what Gary Anderson's doing

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there is an analyst. How did you describe Gary Anderson

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his roll down there in prov over the last year

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or so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's definitely one of the smartest football minds you

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will be around. I mean, he's been doing it for

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a while. He knows what he's talking about. He knows

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He's just one of those guys that you can go

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up to and ask about anything. He's going to be

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there for you. He's going to help you with football.

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He's going to show up for you if you want

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some extra meetings. He's just a football guy that loves

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ball and he wants the best out of each and

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every one of the athletes that is there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel optimistic. How would you describe Kelly Papinga too.

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I mean, he you've worked with him, You've seen what

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he's done. We've done with the special teams units in

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the linebacker edge room as well. How would you describe

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Kate pop and how Why do you think he can

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be a great DC at BYU.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's going to be great because he's passionate.

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He loves the game of football. I mean, even when

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he was coaching special teams last year, you could feel

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the passion in it. Where a lot of people think

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special teams isn't that important, he really emphasized the fact

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that special teams can win games. And just seeing the

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passion he has for the game, the mind he has.

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He's been in doing this for a while as well,

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so he's got the knowledge that's needed to be successful.

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And he's just there for the guys. Everyone that kind

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of like coach Gary Anderson that I talked about, he's

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someone you can go up to, you can trust, and

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he's going to get the job done.

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Speaker 3: Jack Kelly, Ladies and gentlemen, former b y you great

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talking some ball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.

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Speaker 4: Who should be what you fans be aware of?

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Speaker 3: Maybe like that that is on the come up into

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twenty twenty six season. Newcomers, Guys that were, you know,

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maybe on the bench last year, Like who should be

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YU fans keep an eye out for offensively or defensively

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special teams wise this next season.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there might be too many to name. There's a

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lot of guys from last year that I thought were

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ballers that may might not have got the playing time

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or the attention they needed, and even newcomers. I've heard

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a lot of the newcomers, whether that's transfers or freshmen

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that have been balling. So I mean, I can't really

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put a finger on a couple because there's too many,

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but I think coover fans should be super excited about

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what's coming.

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Speaker 4: Love that.

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Speaker 3: Man, Well, we appreciate you hopping on Jack to give

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us an update on everything. I'm sure you've received a

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ton of interest post pro Day and post NFL combine.

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What is that feedback from the NFL scouts and also

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from your agent?

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Speaker 4: What feedback have you received during the process.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, it's not a whole lot of feedback.

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It's more of just like getting on calls, understanding who

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you are more as a person, like seeing how well

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you know yourself, Like what are your strengths, what are

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your weaknesses. So it's kind of just understanding more of

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who we are at this point. So it's been a

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lot of positive conversations. Just trying to continue to show

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my ability to drop into coverage and be a versatile player,

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and that's something that I've been able to show through

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workouts or film and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Jack, Well, can't wait to see you ball

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out in the NFL. Do you have an ideal location

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at a deal scheme you want to be in going forward?

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Speaker 5: No, any opportunity I get, I'm going to be super

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bust and happy and I won't take event or won't

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take for granted any any city I get to go

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play for.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you this much, BYU's linebacker. You look at

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all the great linebackers that have gone on to the NFL,

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two great careers over the last twenty or so years.

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Twenty or so years, it's been awesome to watch and

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you're part of that legacy now as one of the

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best linebackers and be what you football history, Jack Kelly.

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We salute you man, Thanks for coming on. And yeah,

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had you heard the nickname the Juggernaut or is that

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the first time?

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Speaker 5: That was the first time I ever heard that?

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Speaker 3: Actually, man, shoot, I'm send you my my my mockup

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of you as the Juggernaut once we get off the air. So,

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I I mean, come on, like the way you run

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and you got the neck role too, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, it fits, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. I'm definitely gonna see that mock up.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll send it over to your brother, Big Cougar.

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Order you man, Thanks for joining us, Thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 5: Jack, Yes, sir, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: There you go. That's Jack the Juggernaut Kelly.

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Speaker 3: He can run with the best of them, great coverage,

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as you know, he's a great pass rusher. He's got

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a bright future in the NFL. No IF's hands or

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butts about it. Let's take a time out, guys. That

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