Speaker 1: At wim Hoff's book about John Courtney Murray in his
Speaker 1: close relationship with the Rockefellers. And the reason the rock
Speaker 1: Fellers were so interested in this is that they wanted
Speaker 1: to get some of the liberal Jesuits on board to
Speaker 1: change the ethics of the Roman Catholic Church on contraception, abration,
Speaker 1: et cetera. They wanted the Rummancality Church to accept skittles,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff for deepop because of population control.
Speaker 1: It was old chap Trump. Now who is David Wemoff.
Speaker 1: David Wimmoff is a traditional Catholic, not a set of
Speaker 1: a contest, traditional Catholic lawyer, and he wrote this book
Speaker 1: which is one of the most important geopolitical books I've
Speaker 1: ever It's a thousand pages and it has at least
Speaker 1: probably a thousand footnotes, maybe more. I mean it's in
Speaker 1: note so I can't tabulate them for you. But like
Speaker 1: every chapter is, you know, thirty footnotes, and there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of little chapters, and the whole book details most
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you hear me talk about. Like
Speaker 1: there's a whole section on Quigley, it's a whole section
Speaker 1: on Woodrow Wilson and Fabian socialism, like, there's all of
Speaker 1: that in the book, but also the changes that were
Speaker 1: identified in Roman Catholic theology that needed to go. For example,
Speaker 1: multiple Roman Catholic papal teachings about the state being Christian
Speaker 1: would have to be overturned and done away with, such
Speaker 1: as Quas Primus, the Feats of Christ the King, the
Speaker 1: Document Immortal Day, and Timetsi Futura, all of which are
Speaker 1: papal documents which talks about the need for the state
Speaker 1: to also be or Christian etctera. You can't have acumenism
Speaker 1: and ecumenism can't be a CIA project if the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church continues to stress that the state be Catholic. So
Speaker 1: acumenism is Americanism applied to religion. That is the thesis
Speaker 1: of the first half of the book. And it's true,
Speaker 1: and he shows it, and not just him. Michael Gratziano,
Speaker 1: who has nothing to do with David Wimhoff or anything
Speaker 1: to do with this theological Catholic project, says the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. The OSS and the CIA understood that ecumenism
Speaker 1: is a geopolitical project. Now, when I was a tried cat,
Speaker 1: I was a dork, and I thought it was all theology.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all theology Thomas Aquinas.
Speaker 1: No, No, they don't care about Thomas Aquinas in Rome.
Speaker 1: What matters in Rome is geopolitics and money in the
Speaker 1: Vatican Bank. And that's what naive, ignorant, young trad cats
Speaker 1: don't understand. As I didn't understand until I grew up
Speaker 1: and got wise and I started reading things like books
Speaker 1: on the history of the Massad. What I mean, like
Speaker 1: Gordon Thomas's Gideon Spies. Why would I care about this
Speaker 1: in regard to the papers, Well, it turns out there's
Speaker 1: quite a bit on the papacy and Catholicism in this
Speaker 1: History of the Massad book. And I'll just give you
Speaker 1: one example. And I'm not I'm just showing you that
Speaker 1: there's multiple interests involved in something as big as the Vatican,
Speaker 1: in the Vatican Bank and so forth. If you, I
Speaker 1: recommend getting this book. By the way, it's a great book.
Speaker 1: A lot of what you've heard me talk about. There's
Speaker 1: actually an entire chapter also kind of echoing this. And
Speaker 1: for those that don't know, Gordon Thomas is a mainline
Speaker 1: best selling journalist historian. He's written forty books, many of
Speaker 1: them deal with the history of espionage and intelligence. He wrote,
Speaker 1: for example, a book on the history of five and
Speaker 1: m I six. He has a book I think I
Speaker 1: have a book of his on MK Ultra. He's written
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Now, this is not a conspiracy book.
Speaker 1: In fact, on the back of the book there are
Speaker 1: blurbs and support from GQ Magazine, The Washington Post, Maxim
Speaker 1: Publishers Weekly, Kirkus Review, et cetera. Even the former head
Speaker 1: of the masaud says, this book tells it like it
Speaker 1: was and like it is. That's my year. I'm a
Speaker 1: former director of MASAD. So this isn't kooky stuff. This
Speaker 1: is mainline academic.
Speaker 2: History.
Speaker 1: If you go to page two fourteen. By the way,
Speaker 1: there's a really fascinating chapter on Henri Paul being an
Speaker 1: asset for French SIS and MI six. And although Gordon
Speaker 1: Thomas doesn't outright say that Diana was assassinated, you can
Speaker 1: kind of read through some of the read between the
Speaker 1: lines in this chapter at the very beginning. Anyway, fast
Speaker 1: forwarding to page two fourteen, this is the chapter on
Speaker 1: the OSS and the Cia and the Vatican. Oh what
Speaker 1: about I thought those old conspiracies. No, no, it's actually mainline history.
Speaker 1: You just don't know about it. In nineteen forty five,
Speaker 1: the OSS was welcomed into the Vatican. In the words
Speaker 1: of James Jesus Angleton, who was the head of the
Speaker 1: OSS station in Rome, we came with open arms. Pius
Speaker 1: the twelfth and his curia asked James Jesus Angleton to
Speaker 1: help the Church set up a militant anti communist crusade
Speaker 1: by getting the Italian Christian Democratic Party exactly what I
Speaker 1: told you into power. Angleton was a practicing Roman Catholic
Speaker 1: and used all of his considerable resources at his disposal
Speaker 1: to bribe, blackmail and threaten anyone to support the Christian Democrats.
Speaker 1: He had been given full access to the vaticans unparalleled
Speaker 1: information gathering services, So the Vatican is an intelligence agency.
Speaker 1: They existed throughout Italy and had quite a bit of
Speaker 1: power information. Every curate and priest was called upon to
Speaker 1: report the activities of the Communists and watch their parishes.
Speaker 1: So they were all spying. Now I'm not saying comedy.
Speaker 1: It was good, by the way. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of you guys are dumb. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of you people have a challenge with the
Speaker 1: slow boy status I'm saying they're both bad. I know
Speaker 1: that's hard to figure out that that you don't just
Speaker 1: have good guys and bad guys in the world. I
Speaker 1: know it's not just cops and robbers, or I know
Speaker 1: you think it's cops and robbers, But do you understand
Speaker 1: there can be two bad guys? Do you understand two
Speaker 1: bad guys could oppose each other. I know that's hard
Speaker 1: for people with you know, under one hundred I qu
Speaker 1: to figure out. But they can happen, I promise. I
Speaker 1: mean everybody watches movies, right or they used to. Do
Speaker 1: you ever notice that sometimes two bad guys fight each other.
Speaker 1: If you watch the Sopranos, sometimes Tony fights other mobsters.
Speaker 1: When the bad can assess all this information, they would
Speaker 1: then pass it on to James Jesus Angleton, who would
Speaker 1: then send it on to assess and the lads at
Speaker 1: the CIA, so they kept tabs on all the Communists
Speaker 1: in Italy, and the priests were all spying. The Pope
Speaker 1: was convinced that the Italian Communists were the spearhead of
Speaker 1: a campaign to destroy the Romancllolic Church. Now that's partly true,
Speaker 1: but the question is does the CIA also want to
Speaker 1: perhaps co opt and destroy the Roman Galley Church as well.
Speaker 1: The regular meetings between Pious and the Pious Pius the
Speaker 1: twelfth and Angleton became sessions where communism loomed ever larger. So, oh,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it turns out James Jesus Angleton, the
Speaker 1: Israeli file CIA master spy, is regularly meeting with and
Speaker 1: consulting and telling Pious the twelfth what to do. In fact,
Speaker 1: the Pope asked Angleton to do anything until the US
Speaker 1: to do anything to destroy the communists. Pius the twelfth
Speaker 1: suddenly became an enthusiastic proponent of US foreign policy. Is
Speaker 1: interesting how that works. By nineteen fifty two, the Rome
Speaker 1: station chief was now By nineteen fifty two, Rome was
Speaker 1: now the station chief had now had the CIA and
Speaker 1: at the OSS, and it was a new devout tradcat
Speaker 1: William Colby. He went on to mastermind all the CIA's
Speaker 1: activities in Vietnam, including the Phoenix program, which was the
Speaker 1: weaponizing of serial killers. Colby had established a very powerful
Speaker 1: network of informers within the Vatican State and the Secretariat
Speaker 1: of State. In fact, every Vatican congregation had a network
Speaker 1: of Colby's CIA informants. He used them to help fight
Speaker 1: the CIA, to help the CIA fight Soviet espionage that
Speaker 1: was also happening in Rome and throughout the globe. Now
Speaker 1: that's true, And we covered John Kaylor's whole book on
Speaker 1: the KGB and the NKVD's operatives in the Vatican. So
Speaker 1: we've covered an entire that's a CIA historic that's a
Speaker 1: guy from the CI. We've covered his book. So you understand,
Speaker 1: I don't just go by conspiracy books. I go by
Speaker 1: critic of the CIA and mouthpiece of the CIA books.
Speaker 1: We look at both. I know that's hard for some
Speaker 1: of you people to understand that there's establishment books and
Speaker 1: anthe established books, and that we read both. I know
Speaker 1: you're either or you're dialectical, but we don't do that.
Speaker 1: That's why the analysis that we do is superior to
Speaker 1: everybody else's analysis. And no one else, no one else
Speaker 1: lectures through the books dozen by dozen by dozen like
Speaker 1: we do. Who else does this? There are no other
Speaker 1: channels that do this. I know Richard Grove talks about books.
Speaker 1: I love Richard Grove. I'm saying, who lectures through all
Speaker 1: the theology and the church history and the philosophy and
Speaker 1: the geopolitics and the espionage. Plenty of channels. Do one
Speaker 1: or the other who does all this? In nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: the CIA achieved another breakthrough with Cardinal Montini Paul the six.
Speaker 1: Three years later, he gave the CIA the names of
Speaker 1: all the priests that the United States deemed by the
Speaker 1: Vatican to be perhaps potentially communists. Now, in practice, in theory,
Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily have a problem with this, because
Speaker 1: I assume that this is going to happen, and this
Speaker 1: is what would happen. But my point is that who
Speaker 1: has ever told you this, that your priests and your
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic prelates are spying on you and giving information
Speaker 1: to people in Washington, and Washington is giving them information
Speaker 1: in dirt. Nobody tells you this. The Cold War was
Speaker 1: at his peak, and thus paranoia ran rife. The FBI
Speaker 1: hounded priests, many of them that were suspected of being
Speaker 1: liberation theologians, et cetera. The CIA thus had a substantial
Speaker 1: slush fund called Project Money, that they used to make
Speaker 1: generous gifts to Catholic charity, schools and orphanages. These would
Speaker 1: pay for the restoration of churches and buildings that the
Speaker 1: Vatican owned all expense paid holidays were given to priests
Speaker 1: and nuns known to be staunchly pro American. What's the
Speaker 1: problem going good? Based and tread?
Speaker 3: Do you based and tread?
Speaker 1: The problem is you now have new masters, you dummy.
Speaker 1: Do you think the CIA is just your buddy? They
Speaker 1: just give you millions of dollars and put all this
Speaker 1: in the Vatican bank because they're cool. Who based and
Speaker 1: tried to do? They're so cool.
Speaker 3: They just give like free money, Bros, give it all.
Speaker 1: Free money, Bro, They're so cool. No, it means you
Speaker 1: now owe them. Okay, this is big boy pants stuff.
Speaker 1: This is organized crime level stuff. You don't get millions
Speaker 1: of dollars and do whatever you want, bro, You then
Speaker 1: owe them. They're your masters. Now the borrower is servant
Speaker 1: to the lender herbs one on one. Successive CIA station
Speaker 1: chiefs thus were regarded by the Vatican as more important
Speaker 1: than the American ambassadors to Italy. When John the twenty
Speaker 1: three was elected punt of nineteen fifty eight, he stunned
Speaker 1: the Curia. He was saying that a crusade against communism
Speaker 1: had failed. He's the pink Pope right. He ordered that
Speaker 1: the Italian bishops become politically neutral. The CIA began to
Speaker 1: be frantic when Pope John offered his access, offered excuse me,
Speaker 1: ordered that CIA access to the Vatican must cease. The
Speaker 1: agency's panic increased when the CIA leen learned that the
Speaker 1: Pope had begun to nurture the seeds of what he
Speaker 1: called an embryonic ospolitic and started a cautious dialogue with
Speaker 1: Khrushchev for the CIA station chief in Rome. The Vatican
Speaker 1: was no longer committed to the American project. Now, so
Speaker 1: you see how this is complicated? Right? I would agree
Speaker 1: with John the twenty third stopping the Vatican direct control
Speaker 1: access pipeline to the CIA, but not for the reasons
Speaker 1: that John the twenty third is doing it. You see.
Speaker 1: So John twayn third is doing it because he's open
Speaker 1: to Soviet communism. They say, you see how this is complex.
Speaker 1: It's not good guy bad guy. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of you people think it's the world as cops and robbers,
Speaker 1: your fourth graders who think everything works that way. But again,
Speaker 1: you can have two bad guys fighting. Did you understand that?
Speaker 1: Can you conceive of that? CIA analysts in Washington prepared
Speaker 1: exhaustive assessments with such grandiose titles as the links between
Speaker 1: the Vatican and Communism. The cia IS director at that time,
Speaker 1: John McComb, flew to Rome and demanded a meeting with
Speaker 1: John twenty third. He had come at the insistence of
Speaker 1: America's first Catholic President, JFK. Nicole Well. Mccohone told the
Speaker 1: pontiff that the Church must stop this drift towards communism.
Speaker 1: For ten minutes straight, John mccoon spoke in this very
Speaker 1: blunt manner without any interruptions. So you see like, this
Speaker 1: is not this is not the LARPing crusade bull crap
Speaker 1: that tradcats think. The CIA flies in, gets in the
Speaker 1: face of the Pope and says you're going to do this.
Speaker 1: Does this sound like medieval crusading LARPing bullshit where the
Speaker 1: pope is the emperor queisats hotter rock of the world.
Speaker 1: You guys are so naive, man, You're so naive. Speaking softly,
Speaker 1: John the twenty third explained that the Church had an
Speaker 1: urgent duty to solve world poverty, to help human rights,
Speaker 1: to close down slums. What I mean what, and to
Speaker 1: end racism. Oh I goess so? Johnswaye third is basically
Speaker 1: just spouting a bunch of woke bullshit, as the CIA
Speaker 1: directors yelling in his face, I mean, there you go,
Speaker 1: two bad guys.
Speaker 4: Was that to you?
Speaker 1: John the twenty third insisted that he would be open
Speaker 1: to talking to anybody that would help him end racism,
Speaker 1: even the Soviets. This is so gay, dude. The only
Speaker 1: way to meet the challenge of communism was to confront
Speaker 1: it with reason and argumentation. Yeah right, good luck with that.
Speaker 1: CIA director mccoone, unable to contain his anger. I had
Speaker 1: not come here to debate you. The CIA is going
Speaker 1: to tell you what to do. At that point, McCone returned,
Speaker 1: convinced that John the twenty third was too soft on communists.
Speaker 1: John twenty thirds not unexpected death rapidly progressed, so his
Speaker 1: cancer caused him to meet a very soon. Interesting. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know that this was I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it was an assassination, but it's interesting that John Paul
Speaker 1: the first was definitely assassinated very quick when he fell
Speaker 1: a foul of these people in these individuals and John
Speaker 1: the twenty third, according to Gordon Thomas, died pretty quick
Speaker 1: after telling off the CIA director interesting. We don't know,
Speaker 1: is it was it? Who knows, but it's just an
Speaker 1: interesting series events. And then who becomes pope? Well, the
Speaker 1: one who was really close to the CIA, Paul the six,
Speaker 1: Cardinal Montini. In nineteen sixty three, two days after his inauguration,
Speaker 1: the Pope received JFK in his office privately outside. ZIA
Speaker 1: Director John mccoon strolled through the Vatican like a landowner
Speaker 1: who had returned home after a long absence. So you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna tell the CIA what to do? John
Speaker 1: the twenty third, Bye bye, and we will put in
Speaker 1: our man, Paul the six. Now, isn't it interesting that
Speaker 1: when I brought this up the other day some people
Speaker 1: were skeptical. When I replied to Tom Woods, remember this,
Speaker 1: Tom Woods couldn't believe what what are you talking about? Dire?
Speaker 1: Why are you Why would the pope submit to international
Speaker 1: elites when the pope has the same ideology, he doesn't
Speaker 1: need to submit. No, no, I'm talking about this stuff.
Speaker 1: This is why the pope submits. He knows that if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, he might just meet a John Paul the
Speaker 1: First or a John the twenty third, quick end, And
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that John and the Paul the First
Speaker 1: and John the twenty third are good people. Do you
Speaker 1: understand a bad guy can kill another bad guy? You dummies.
Speaker 1: I'm not calling my audience dumb. My audience is smart.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the newbies that show up.
Speaker 3: What is this skizo shit skizo? Whether he never read
Speaker 3: a book but needs a skid though he'll read books.
Speaker 3: She's a skid though.
Speaker 1: Now check this out. Somebody said, rock, it's what dire
Speaker 1: saying true. Watch this? This was great. So I said
Speaker 1: to Tom Woods, why would the popes take orders? I
Speaker 1: just read to you an example why the popes take
Speaker 1: orders from a historian, an intelligence historian. The same reason
Speaker 1: the Roth tells were the papal bankers. The Vatican Bank
Speaker 1: was bailed out, bought out in Gladiol. The CIA was
Speaker 1: involved in papal conclaves. Kissinger regularly Paul the six and
Speaker 1: the pdf blackmail exists. Now one swift young individual here
Speaker 1: Epp said, Groc, is this real? And then Groc says
Speaker 1: yes to everything but one. The only reason he doesn't
Speaker 1: say yes to the bailout was because Groc doesn't know
Speaker 1: what's in the Paul Williams book. Some of these claims
Speaker 1: check out. The raw tells were the people bankers the
Speaker 1: Vatican Bank scannels bank on Bragio involved in big payouts,
Speaker 1: but no confirmed buyout typed to Gladio. Oh really, groc
Speaker 1: Let's see about that, because it just so. It turns
Speaker 1: out that there is a chapter on that. So at
Speaker 1: one point the Vatican Bank was down like a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: It was some crazy amount. I think it's a billion.
Speaker 1: Let's let's check that.
Speaker 2: It's gonna fact check.
Speaker 1: Oh man, the rock fillers have mentioned in here a
Speaker 1: bunch okay, one, let's try ninety one, ninety two. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's it. They had, by the way, a bunch of
Speaker 1: investments too. Remember they were they were trying to invest
Speaker 1: and put money everywhere. They weren't just like they weren't
Speaker 1: just storing the money. Right, So what happens when these
Speaker 1: criminals get all this money is they take your money
Speaker 1: and then they try to bet and make money on it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: This happened in the housing collapse. They were betting with
Speaker 1: everybody's money, and then when it all collapsed because their
Speaker 1: their bets were bad bets. They then got the government
Speaker 1: to bail the banks out through the taxpayer money, which
Speaker 1: they had been using anyway, they were using private people's moneies.
Speaker 1: They've been using their their customers' money is to bet
Speaker 1: and then when the housing market collapsed, they got everybody's
Speaker 1: tax money to bail them mount. Let's see one, let's
Speaker 1: try one thirty one two. I want to read you
Speaker 1: this because I don't want to, like, there's so much
Speaker 1: information in this book that it's hard to remember it all.
Speaker 1: So I want to refresh myself on exactly the money here.
Speaker 1: It is Augustine Pinochet and the bailout model.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 1: I think the Banka Privata collapsed. That's it. By the way,
Speaker 1: this happens under Paul the six.
Speaker 5: So in case you're wondering, Okay, oh man, this is
Speaker 5: so complicated.
Speaker 1: Now you when you read a book like this, you
Speaker 1: understand why the FBI when they when even when you
Speaker 1: watch a movie or something like, they have these giant
Speaker 1: boards with faces and charts and boxes and lines. It's
Speaker 1: like it's they're charting out because what criminals do is
Speaker 1: they will concoct like really elaborate ways to hide money
Speaker 1: with shell companies that set up other shell companies, and
Speaker 1: it becomes a huge intentional labyrinth to confuse, and the
Speaker 1: criminals are doing that on purpose because they're they're smart.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a genius engineer who engineered the
Speaker 1: Brazilian car wash scandal. If you've never heard of that,
Speaker 1: look it up. It will show you what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Because the entire government was structured under a giant control
Speaker 1: scheme that compromised all of the government. But it was
Speaker 1: so elaborate and it was ingenius that it took many,
Speaker 1: many years to figure out how they had set up
Speaker 1: a scam. And it turns out the CIA and the
Speaker 1: FBI figured out that it was a guy that they
Speaker 1: called the Sicilian. I don't even know if he was Sicilian,
Speaker 1: he could have been anything. Was basically a guy with
Speaker 1: a PhD in criminology who had constraint. It was like
Speaker 1: a mastermind, evil genius, and he had constructed an almost indiscoverable,
Speaker 1: impenetrable criminal enterprise that corrupted the entire country. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: There's a documentary and a TV show on this. It's
Speaker 1: called the Brazilian car Wash Scandal. Now that's an innocuous scandal,
Speaker 1: but it's a reference to the way that the whole
Speaker 1: organized organized crime structure fell was that it just so
Speaker 1: happened that one of the members of the criminal gang
Speaker 1: accidentally left a car at a car wash when they
Speaker 1: were doing something, and somebody allan some of the information
Speaker 1: when they were cleaning the car, and this led to
Speaker 1: the whole thing collapsing. Anyway, it's a really famous case.
Speaker 1: But I'm still not finding the Rockefeller There's a specific
Speaker 1: place where this book mentions the amount that the Vatican
Speaker 1: Bank and other connected banks in it. Because all these
Speaker 1: banks are connected, right, So the Vatican Bank, the Bank
Speaker 1: of the Brosia, all these different banks are all connected
Speaker 1: because they're all using the same funds and the same scams,
Speaker 1: and is a specific amount. Let's see picture on thirty six.
Speaker 1: It's also similar to the Franklin cover up too, by
Speaker 1: the way, which is fascinating. Ninety six. I'll try that
Speaker 1: out here we go. This is it. It's chapter eighteen,
Speaker 1: and it's the chapter called Blackfriars Bridge. This is where
Speaker 1: Roberto call Roberto calvi was hanging upside down on Masonic pose.
Speaker 1: I'm being serious. So when Roberto Calviy was killed, he
Speaker 1: was hanging upside down in a tarot card Masonic pose.
Speaker 1: What's it called where the guy is it just the
Speaker 1: death card. No, that's not the death card. What's the
Speaker 1: one where the guy's hanging upside down, Jamie, hanged man.
Speaker 1: That's it. Hanged man pose, that's it. So if I
Speaker 1: recall when Roberto CALVII was assassinated, he was found hanging
Speaker 1: upside down in that pose, and he'd been killed by
Speaker 1: obviously by the P two. I'll read this to you
Speaker 1: and then you'll see I'm where I'm getting this. The
Speaker 1: decision to kill Calvey was not taken lightly. The CIA
Speaker 1: had to resolve the bankoed Ambrosio affair, providing Francesco Pazienza
Speaker 1: as the banker's new international consultant. The move displayed the
Speaker 1: agency's determination to resolve the Ambrosiano Imbruglio and few individuals
Speaker 1: are more vital of importance to Gladio than Patzienza. No
Speaker 1: one was more wired into the operations power brokers. As
Speaker 1: a trained physician, Pasienza had abandoned his medical profession to
Speaker 1: serve as a Gladio operative. He was dispatched to serve
Speaker 1: ceise me I think that's Italian military intelligence and was
Speaker 1: assisted by a former NATO general, Santo Vito, Commander, Secretary
Speaker 1: of State Alexander Haig and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
Speaker 1: So these three people kind of running this operation here
Speaker 1: to get rid of Calvi. According to Williams, a leading
Speaker 1: member of P two, Kissinger regularly met with lechio Gelly
Speaker 1: or excuse me, patziens As a leading member of P two,
Speaker 1: regularly meeting with lechio Gelly, who was the Masonic P
Speaker 1: two basically running everything on our Kissinger. He was later
Speaker 1: named as a co conspirator in the Bologna bombing, which,
Speaker 1: as we pointed out, is a Gladio operation. Since nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy eight, he had been working closely with Henry Arson
Speaker 1: at sipbomb arranging the sale of a fleet of warships
Speaker 1: to Saddam Hussein. Pazienza was also a man of honor
Speaker 1: with filial ties to to Callo and Inzaillo, members of
Speaker 1: the Gambino family in the United States. By the way,
Speaker 1: this said, all tie into John Gotti and send me
Speaker 1: the bull too. By the way, that's why I should
Speaker 1: have asked him about this. Didn't think too. Thanks to
Speaker 1: the friendship with Michael Ledeen, Pozienza became deeply involved in
Speaker 1: US political affairs, including the implementation of Billy Gate. This
Speaker 1: was a plot connecting President Jimmy Carter's brother with the
Speaker 1: Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine, a group that
Speaker 1: sought the destruction of Israel and thus would tarnish the
Speaker 1: reputation of Carter. President Reagan was duly impressed with Potzienza's
Speaker 1: talents in the diplomatic into regnum created by Reagan's removal
Speaker 1: of Richard Gardner blah blah blah. In nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 1: Potzienza began to devise a plan to plug the gaping
Speaker 1: one point seventy five billion dollar hole in the Banco Dembrosio.
Speaker 1: It had been created by the loans to the Vatican's
Speaker 1: shell companies. Through his CIA contacts, he arranged for two
Speaker 1: American investors, presumably David Rockefeller and Robert Armaio, and three
Speaker 1: Saudi businessmen to pay two banks one point two billion
Speaker 1: to buy the nine shell companies that now held sixteen
Speaker 1: percent of the bank called Ambrosio's stock. For several months,
Speaker 1: the letter served to quiet the concerns of the shareholders,
Speaker 1: so they sent out this letter that don't worry funds
Speaker 1: out a safe fool, your funds out a saffool. That's
Speaker 1: an old binance meme. If you don't know when posy ends.
Speaker 1: It gained the necessary backing for this plan. The bailout
Speaker 1: of one point two billion dollars was in place. The
Speaker 1: group agreed to bring sixteen to buy sixteen percent of
Speaker 1: the Ambrosiano stock held by all the shell companies as equity.
Speaker 1: The investors intended to purchase more shares at an inflated
Speaker 1: rate from the interested sellers in order to obtain a
Speaker 1: twenty percent holding. This would grant them then ownership of
Speaker 1: one of Italy's most prestigious banks. The matter seemed Roberto
Speaker 1: Calvi then sighed a sigh of relief. No one expected
Speaker 1: John Paul the Second's reaction. Pope John Paul the Second
Speaker 1: opposed this plan, not because he's a good person, but
Speaker 1: according to Potzienza, he said it was a pipe dream.
Speaker 1: He just didn't think it would work. In a nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six interview with Lospresso magazine, Potzianza said the Ambrosiano plan,
Speaker 1: in the eyes of the Pope, was to represent the
Speaker 1: modern secular arm of the Church in the world. This
Speaker 1: new temporal power was seen as the penetration and control
Speaker 1: of financial and publishing activities, including the acquisition of Italy's
Speaker 1: leading daily newspaper. This would counterbalance the secular Marxist influences
Speaker 1: that were becoming ever popular and predominant in Italy. The
Speaker 1: popes believed that the Church could weather this crisis and
Speaker 1: thus take ownership of Bangote Ambrosio was reflected by the
Speaker 1: optimistic statements from Archbishop Marcinkus, another one of the criminals
Speaker 1: involved in nineteen eighty two the storm clouds gathered around
Speaker 1: the Holy See. Marcinkus, in an interview with the Italian magazine, said,
Speaker 1: Roberto Calvi merits our trust. We have no reason to
Speaker 1: doubt him. We have no intention to seed the Banco Dembrosio.
Speaker 1: And of course it didn't work. Ambrosiano collapsed. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that means that they didn't buy it out, because
Speaker 1: if it collapsed, then maybe they didn't sell it. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. On June eleventh, while packing his bags, Roberto
Speaker 1: Calvi told his son, I will reveal to you the
Speaker 1: things that were once known that will rock the Vatican.
Speaker 1: This will cause the Pope to resign. Interesting, well, it
Speaker 1: didn't cause Pope Jump on the second to resign, But
Speaker 1: what it showed in Calvi was partly correct. What it
Speaker 1: did show was that all the decisions in Italy were
Speaker 1: made by lechio Gelli at the best of Kissinger. That's
Speaker 1: according to Calvi and Williams here right and on page
Speaker 1: two thirty one about the Masonic symbolism of the death,
Speaker 1: Calvi's demise was suspicious. Members of the various Masonic lodges
Speaker 1: in Italy do wear black robes and they call each
Speaker 1: other friars, thus the black Friars, an Italian name for
Speaker 1: a Freemason. There's even a black Friar's lodge called Lodge
Speaker 1: three seven two two on the list of Masonic lodges
Speaker 1: in Italy. In fact, the masonry and the form of
Speaker 1: the brick, the form of the body was seen as
Speaker 1: significant as he was hung in the way that traders
Speaker 1: should be roped down according to Tarot, so the hang
Speaker 1: demand there. Now, to go back to Gordon Thomas's history
Speaker 1: of the massade, after the death of John Paul John
Speaker 1: the twenty third, we got the pro c a John
Speaker 1: or Paul the six, and then we got under Nixon.
Speaker 1: The Holy See once again establishes close connection to the CIA.
Speaker 1: Under Nixon in regard to the Vietnam War. All this
Speaker 1: za V z Amir had learned from his Washington Kotz
Speaker 1: Katsas are the people that aid Masad, and the CIA
Speaker 1: are resuming the Masade and Israelis and other countries. That's
Speaker 1: the operatives. I should say that the Cyaneme are the
Speaker 1: ones that aid them. Katzas are the operatives. Now, this
Speaker 1: brilliant sunny morning of January ten, nineteen seventy three, he
Speaker 1: and his two colleagues were driven to the Vatican. So
Speaker 1: this is the head of Masad. I think it's the
Speaker 1: Sun driven to the Vatican to check the security arrangements
Speaker 1: for Golden Myra's visit to the Vatican. Zamir hoped it
Speaker 1: result in Massad taking the place of the CIA in
Speaker 1: the Vatican. So the Masada wants to establish this key
Speaker 1: integral relationship with the Holy See waiting for them out
Speaker 1: insie the Palace as the Vatican. In Vatican security, a
Speaker 1: tall pinch face man unlocked the form of the Vigilii,
Speaker 1: the Vatican security service. So wait a minute, keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Pope Leo, Pope Francis, they don't want you to have guns. Oh,
Speaker 1: but the Vatican has VIGILIAI its own securities service, its
Speaker 1: own secret service, and they're armed. Interesting, by the way,
Speaker 1: Leo just said, have open borders. Oh so the guy
Speaker 1: who lives in a palace in a city state with
Speaker 1: his own secret service says that we shouldn't have self
Speaker 1: defense and we should have open borders. Trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of the ethics of the Vatican here.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't see that. I mean he says this
Speaker 1: like every day, So this is nothing new. What why
Speaker 1: why should we have open borders because you're a it's
Speaker 1: a missionary thing, a missionary thing, a missionary thing. What. Okay,
Speaker 1: when I see uh, fentanyl tense cities in the Vatican,
Speaker 1: then I will believe that Leo and Francis and the
Speaker 1: goblins in Rome actually care about missionary work. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: you should have open border because the missionary work. Imagine
Speaker 1: believing this. Yeah, well, I mean I know that there's
Speaker 1: the Swiss Guard, but I don't think this. I mean
Speaker 1: maybe they have guns that are hidden or something, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they have I mean there's actual secret
Speaker 1: service that actually have guns.
Speaker 6: Right, the Vigilia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see these guys here that you don't Oh, look
Speaker 1: at that there. Oh yeah, so here's this guy. Look
Speaker 1: at this guy's just stacked to the to the brim
Speaker 1: with secret Service one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 1: thirty thirteen is just right there. I guarantee they're all armed.
Speaker 1: But you shouldn't have guns. I mean, just like next
Speaker 1: level hypocrisy. Dude. It's like, what, by the way, if
Speaker 1: you want to support the stream, you can do so
Speaker 1: through superjaz. Super chat has done through stream labs. It
Speaker 1: is pinned in the comments and in the show description.
Speaker 1: Fourteen men in black they're called the vigilia I that's
Speaker 1: the Pope's secret service. But you should have open borders
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't have guns, according to the guy with
Speaker 1: a palace with fourteen secret Service guys walking around him. Okay,
Speaker 1: soever za viz a mir uh get the assistants great,
Speaker 1: So I love the admissions honesty here. When he was
Speaker 1: taken into the Vatican, the first thing he did was
Speaker 1: look for places that he could bug the Holy See
Speaker 1: this is two seventeen. Like the first thing right here,
Speaker 1: first thing I did? Where can I bug the Vatican? Now,
Speaker 1: you guys recall this recently happened at the White House
Speaker 1: when they brought the Israeli dudes. And oh turns out
Speaker 1: I think was it General Flynn or Roger Stone. Somebody
Speaker 1: talked about this the other day on Lord Baltimore. They
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, after the Israelis left, we found bugs
Speaker 1: in the White House. Shocker. I mean, it says it
Speaker 1: right here right. Of course they're gonna bug the Holy
Speaker 1: See what are you talking about? So this is during
Speaker 1: gold in my Ears visit to the Vatican and the
Speaker 1: massade with her wanting to establish a relationship with Okay,
Speaker 1: so point I wanted to get to and all this
Speaker 1: was when John Paul the Second comes to power. Turns
Speaker 1: out he is very closely allied with and very close
Speaker 1: friends with the Reagan era neo con Cia. And that
Speaker 1: guy is William Casey. William Casey, the tradcat Who what
Speaker 1: do you know? Fordham University? Anybody in the Orthodox world
Speaker 1: have any any, any, any clue, any idea of why
Speaker 1: Fordham might be relevant here? Oh, it's classic Jesuit Cia University. Now,
Speaker 1: John Paul the Second meets with William Casey all throughout
Speaker 1: his pontificate. In fact, Carol Votia had reached out to
Speaker 1: reestablish the close ties between the CIA the Vatican. In
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, William Casey, CIA Director, was amongst the
Speaker 1: first people Jump Paul the second received in a private
Speaker 1: audience after being elected. Casey knelt before the charismatic Polish
Speaker 1: Pope and kissed the fisherman's ring and everywhere and every gesture.
Speaker 1: The CIA director was a humble supplicant. Casey and the
Speaker 1: Pope with us feed on each other basically what it says,
Speaker 1: and then it goes on to say from the bansboard
Speaker 1: of the CIA. The Vatican was a perfect Cold War
Speaker 1: tool during this time. Am I read you to this?
Speaker 1: Listen to this. Every Friday evening, the CIA station chief
Speaker 1: in Rome was brought to the Apostolic Palace to give
Speaker 1: to Jump all the second the latest secrets obtained from
Speaker 1: the satellite surveillance and the electronic eavesdropping by the CAA
Speaker 1: field agents. No other foreign leader had access to the
Speaker 1: Pope like this every week. Papal diplomacy, which is the
Speaker 1: political core of the highly centralized Vatican bureaucracy, had more
Speaker 1: than at any time in its five hundred years, become
Speaker 1: deeply involved in international events. As the world leader of
Speaker 1: this involvement nearly calls the pope his life when he
Speaker 1: was almost assassinated in nineteen eighty one by ali Aga.
Speaker 1: And there's some really crazy wild stuff about ali Aga
Speaker 1: and his connection to the Turkish Gray Wolves, which is
Speaker 1: where the Turkish intelligence operatives that many of them were
Speaker 1: recruited out of the Wolves, which were organized crime. And
Speaker 1: he talks about Aliyadka being in the Gray Wolves on
Speaker 1: page two, or he talks about Aliyaka in these connections
Speaker 1: on two twenty four. I should say no, he mentioned
Speaker 1: the Gray Wolves. Actually, Acca had been a member of
Speaker 1: a terrorist organized crime in a group based in Turkey
Speaker 1: called the Gray Wolves. This was the guy that attempted
Speaker 1: to assassinate Jump on a second. If you don't know anyway,
Speaker 1: that bolstered the idea of the Cold War, because of
Speaker 1: course the CIA said Soviets are trying to it's the Soviets,
Speaker 1: They're the ones that did it well. The next chapter
Speaker 1: is about the attempts to normalize relationships between the Massad
Speaker 1: in Rome in the wake of Gold in My Ears
Speaker 1: unsuccessful attempts to establish diplomatic size the Vatican. Zavi Zamir
Speaker 1: established a permanent Massad presence in Rome and tried to
Speaker 1: penetrate the Vatican, working out of a building close to
Speaker 1: the Israeli embassy. The Katsa tried to FA and failed
Speaker 1: to recruit priest informants. Most of what he learned was
Speaker 1: a gossip overheard at bars and restaurants frequented by the
Speaker 1: Vatican staff. He achieved little more than enviously watching the
Speaker 1: CIA chief head into Rome every week and his Friday
Speaker 1: night briefings of the Pope. Oh, however, that doesn't that
Speaker 1: it doesn't remain this way. This chapter continues to stress
Speaker 1: how close John Paul the Second was to the CIA
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. This is mentioned throughout this chapter.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to keep repeating it. You get the idea,
Speaker 1: hopefully if you want to check it at page th
Speaker 1: thirty four. But the most interesting thing was that eventually, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll just read this after this. By nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: Nahem Admoni was no longer massage chief. His successor, Shibatai Chavitt,
Speaker 1: continued the delicate process of trying to bring the massage
Speaker 1: closer to the Vatican. Part of what part of that
Speaker 1: maneuvering was to show that the Pope that both Israel
Speaker 1: and the PLO. This is when they were still battling
Speaker 1: with the PILO. I had, it long last, a genuine
Speaker 1: interest in reaching some settlement, and they recognized a common
Speaker 1: threat of Islamic fundamentalism. Jump all the second board the
Speaker 1: physical scars of that through the Aliadka event. However, Massade
Speaker 1: had been busy on a continent where the Vatican pinned
Speaker 1: so many of its hopes for the future Africa. From there,
Speaker 1: the Holy See one day expected to emerge a future
Speaker 1: black pope. So maybe, uh, who's that black dude that
Speaker 1: they all thought was triad, Who's like, actually just a
Speaker 1: vatiganto liberal. Who's the black forget his name? It was
Speaker 1: there that Massade had already shown itself in the past
Speaker 1: Master of the Black Guard. Are playing off one intelligence
Speaker 1: agent against another two securities O position. Now, that's not
Speaker 1: actually what I was looking for. There's a specific section
Speaker 1: where eventually it does mention the Vatican eventually does recognize Israel.
Speaker 1: I think, don't think here it is oh wait here
Speaker 1: we go. Oh okay, yeah. So if you remember John Paul,
Speaker 1: the seconds BFF was Jersey Klueger, right, which led what's
Speaker 1: that woman's name forget about. There's a book. I have
Speaker 1: the book. This is it Hidden Pope Darcy O'Brien, The
Speaker 1: untold story of the lifelong friendship that has changed the
Speaker 1: relationship between Catholics and Jews. And this is all about
Speaker 1: how no pope like John Paul the Second had ever
Speaker 1: done what he had done to rehab all this right
Speaker 1: relationship between the Vatican and the Jews. The Massad told
Speaker 1: John Paul the Second that the plot to kill him
Speaker 1: ali Agka actually originated in Iran. So Massades telling chop
Speaker 1: All the second that it's the Iranians that tried to
Speaker 1: assassinate you, and they use ali Aga which doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. I mean, he's in Turkey and he's I mean, anyway,
Speaker 1: the knowledge would color John Paul's attitude towards Islam and Israel.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what I mean. I guess that means
Speaker 1: he's pro Israel. At this point, this gets into like
Speaker 1: John Paul trying to navigate between Israel and the PLO
Speaker 1: and Air Fat and all this stuff. Anyway, I think
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is here. So the newspaper reports
Speaker 1: showed this is after the PLO had been involved in
Speaker 1: a terror event April twelfth, nineteen eighty four, and I
Speaker 1: think Luigi Pugi, I think he's the Vatican ambassador or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then they invite the new head of the Massade
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties to the Vatican. That's it, and
Speaker 1: it says on April thirteen, nineteen eighty six, As a
Speaker 1: result of all of this, John Paul the Second did
Speaker 1: something that no pontiff had ever done. Can you guess
Speaker 1: what he did? He went to pray in the synagogue.
Speaker 1: He entered the Synagogue of Rome and was embraced by
Speaker 1: the chief rabbi, each dressed in their regalia. The two
Speaker 1: men walked side by side to the platform together where
Speaker 1: the Torah was read. However, although this was a historic moment,
Speaker 1: it still did not achieve what Israel wanted, which was
Speaker 1: papal diplomatic recognition That would come in nineteen ninety three, when,
Speaker 1: despite continuing objections from Vatican hardliners, diplomatic ties with the
Speaker 1: Masade were established. There we go. Now, where's any of
Speaker 1: the tradcats on this? What amazing tradcat hypocrisy to ignore
Speaker 1: all of this mainline history. As every day they shout
Speaker 1: juju ju juju incessantly when their own Vatican recognized Israel.
Speaker 1: I think it's a saying recognize Israel in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: We'll fact check that. Let's go fact check. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what it sounds like Thomas is saying here,
Speaker 1: or maybe it just means established diplomatic relations.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Holy See officially recognized the state of Israel
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three. So that occurred due to Masaud
Speaker 1: arranging Golden Myyar's visit and so forth, and leaking the
Speaker 1: info that Iran planned the assassination of Dompol the Second
Speaker 1: by aliadka Now who knows of.
Speaker 7: Being that's true. But the main point is that the
Speaker 7: purpose of it work. The purpose of all that was
Speaker 7: to get John Paul the Second to go to the
Speaker 7: synagogue in Rome to show that he thought they worship
Speaker 7: the same God. I don't know what the purpose of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a big pr stunt, like the
Speaker 1: CIA getting John Paul the Second to go and uh,
Speaker 1: it's in the John Taylor book. John Paul the Second
Speaker 1: had this famous photo that helped end the Cold War.
Speaker 1: In fact, Brian Holdsworth even made a video like talking
Speaker 1: about how awesome it was, and it's like, did you, dummy,
Speaker 1: John Paul? The second is not ending the Cold War
Speaker 1: and defeating the Communists through a through a awesome stage
Speaker 1: photo op. He's doing it at the best of the
Speaker 1: CIAU goubas goobus. That's goofer and goophus together. It's my
Speaker 1: new term. It's a goubas. Brian Holdsworth is a goubas.
Speaker 1: It's a goofy goober who's all so a guphas at goubas.
Speaker 1: How do we prove the Capitians taught hypostatic properties the
Speaker 1: theological orations and then you need to read also not
Speaker 1: just the five famous theological orations, but it's I think
Speaker 1: it's like it's oration like twenty three all the way
Speaker 1: up to like twenty eight of Greg renounci answers. Those
Speaker 1: are great, those are some of the easiest ways to
Speaker 1: show it. But also I mean, uh, doctor bo Branson's talks,
Speaker 1: because he's going to go through the whole idea of
Speaker 1: the father as the arka cause found, et cetera.
Speaker 2: What was a looking about?
Speaker 1: Oh? John Paul second Cold War photo. Now I've forgotten
Speaker 1: which photo it is. Is it the photo with the
Speaker 1: black Madonna? I don't have the John Taylor book here
Speaker 1: with me. But there's there's some famous photo of John
Speaker 1: Paul the Second that has to do with Maybe we
Speaker 1: should just look up Brian Holdsworth video because he talks
Speaker 1: about it. He might not mention the actual photo though,
Speaker 1: I don't know, does anybody remember the actual photo. We
Speaker 1: talked about it when I when I covered the John
Speaker 1: Taylor book. I always like to source everything. How about
Speaker 1: if I just tell you what book talks about and
Speaker 1: you can go read the book. It's John Taylor's book
Speaker 1: KGB in the Vatican Spies in the Vatican. This is it,
Speaker 1: John Callon, So it has a whole chapter on and
Speaker 1: he's pro like he's writing from the vantage point of
Speaker 1: the CIA. He's a CIA Roman Catholic saying, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, John Paul the Second did what we wanted.
Speaker 1: We helped you know, he helped us win the Cold War.
Speaker 1: He's awesome. And by the way, have you noticed that's
Speaker 1: another reason why John Paul the Second is John Paul
Speaker 1: the Great? Why is he a saint? Well, it doesn't
Speaker 1: actually have anything to do with his holiness. It's actually
Speaker 1: a question of that he served his role in the
Speaker 1: Cold War very well, and he was rewarded with being
Speaker 1: the great T. L. Chiquoity five dollars. Thank you for
Speaker 1: all this great info as well as for calling out
Speaker 1: trads and the cafeteria Catholics for what they being Catholic,
Speaker 1: for actually being cafeteria Catholics. Yeah, exactly. Track Catholicism is
Speaker 1: actually just cafeteria Catholicism. Now they think they're a lot
Speaker 1: more serious and devoted and committed, but they're no different
Speaker 1: than the normal Novasorto cafeteria Catholics who pick and choose
Speaker 1: what they want. Because the Romancalolic whole system is about
Speaker 1: picking and choosing what you want, you're forced to pick
Speaker 1: and choose. Slinky two dollars. Thank you for everything to do, Jay,
Speaker 1: Thank you Ghost five bucks. Jay. I went to order
Speaker 1: O church for the first time. It was my first
Speaker 1: time in a church. Oh wow, that's great, amazing. I
Speaker 1: had a great experience. Good. I wanted to thank you
Speaker 1: for pushing me that way. Man, that's great to hear.
Speaker 1: That's actually probably better off. You're actually in a better
Speaker 1: position if you're just fresh, because then you don't come
Speaker 1: with all this like Protestant or Roman Catholic baggage. It's
Speaker 1: just it'll be easier for you. Probably Austin Albert's finders,
Speaker 1: as if there wasn't enough reason to reject the papacy
Speaker 1: based on historical theological positions. Now the corruption runs deep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the point here is it's not just a question
Speaker 1: of theology nerds stuff. That's what I thought when I
Speaker 1: was a naive young man. No, it turns out when
Speaker 1: you see Leo the fourteenth urging European institutions to promote
Speaker 1: a healthy secularism, what the heck does that even mean?
Speaker 1: Just nonsense? There's no such thing as healthy secularism. What now?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Guess what the tradcats said. When I posted this, where
Speaker 1: is that article? I couldn't even find it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: even exist, kid you not. It doesn't exist, dude? What
Speaker 1: I found it within five seconds?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I mean, just lie, just
Speaker 1: straight up lie. It's the first freaking link that comes up.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I couldn't find that order,
Speaker 1: it's the first one that comes up. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? By the way, I like to sometimes bait
Speaker 1: the Roman Catholics because what I'll do is it's funny
Speaker 1: to do this. You can put up like a screenshot
Speaker 1: and then they'll act like it doesn't exist or you
Speaker 1: can't find it, so that you can then bait them
Speaker 1: into saying it's not real, and then you go get
Speaker 1: the real article, which just shows like, dude, there's infinity cope.
Speaker 1: It's infinity cop. So sometimes you can bait them into
Speaker 1: this by doing little tricks like this, and they'll always
Speaker 1: fall for it. There's not a real article. I can't
Speaker 1: follow it, dude, the first one that comes up, you
Speaker 1: didn't even try to find it. The same thing happened
Speaker 1: with another post. I put up this guy, and I
Speaker 1: kid you not. The Roman Catholics said, oh, you're lying.
Speaker 1: He's actually a Latin Mass trad Catholic. What what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? They said, I made this up. It's
Speaker 1: in your freaking main line dude. Life site is main
Speaker 1: line Roman Catholic shit that is not made up. It's
Speaker 1: mainline stuff. They said, oh, he's not actually a lib No,
Speaker 1: he's actually a Latin Mass proponent, Archbishop Bermard Longley, the
Speaker 1: controversial SOHO LGBT Mass guy. He's the one that did
Speaker 1: the LGBT Mass. And they're saying he's a trad cat Latin.
Speaker 1: They're just liars. Dude, You guys are liars, and now
Speaker 1: I like that everybody sees that you lie, just outright lies.
Speaker 1: He's a Latin mass trad cat. He's not even pro gay.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about.
Speaker 1: Also reminder, although we are not getting into this today
Speaker 1: because I did a whole life stream on this a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I want to remind you, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely directly tied into what we talked about for
Speaker 1: the last three hours today. All of what we said
Speaker 1: is exactly why the Vatican Two documents teach Fabian socialism.
Speaker 1: Well thought they were fun nicole war against the Communis.
Speaker 1: The CIA is not a conservative, right wing organization. The
Speaker 1: CIA is a Fabian socialist organization created by and headed
Speaker 1: up by originally Fabian socialists. Though oss hesber Fabian socialists
Speaker 1: openly they were against n KVD Sovietism. They're not capitalists
Speaker 1: who were against communism. They're Fabians who are opposed to Sovietism.
Speaker 1: That's why Gaudium at Spez teaches Marxism socialism. And if
Speaker 1: you don't believe me, we literally go through in forty
Speaker 1: minutes and I didn't even know there's other sections. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know about In fact, gody Mezpez even says
Speaker 1: open borders migration. I didn't even know it was in there.
Speaker 1: Somebody in the comments pointed out to me. So I
Speaker 1: didn't even get all of the of the proofs. Why
Speaker 1: would that be? Because this further demonstrates my point that
Speaker 1: Vatican too, especially proves and shows that the Vatican is
Speaker 1: subservient to geopolitical powers and interests CIA, Rockefellers, Jewish interests.
Speaker 1: They even brag about it in their Look magazine, to
Speaker 1: change the theology and the doctrine, to be a humanist,
Speaker 1: Americanist and whatever else nonsense openly, and all these books
Speaker 1: show them. And there's the link you can go if
Speaker 1: you want to see all the information on gody Mespez.
Speaker 1: There it is. So I put this up because I
Speaker 1: knew they would say it's not real. So you put
Speaker 1: up a screenshot of Leo promoting the LGBT bishop. They'll
Speaker 1: sit there and deny it, and then you put the
Speaker 1: actual article on the show that they're dishonest. It works
Speaker 1: every time. Now you got to make sure that your
Speaker 1: screen shot is real, that there really is an article,
Speaker 1: So don't fall for somebody else's trick. If there's not
Speaker 1: a real article. But I also wanted to mention this
Speaker 1: because now we understand why he would bless an ice cube.
Speaker 1: He's not blessing an ice cube because we believe in
Speaker 1: blessing over your object. This is a climate change event.
Speaker 1: You gouphus, you goobus. It's not him blessing water like
Speaker 1: the blessing of the waters in orthodoxy. He's promoting a
Speaker 1: participating in a climate change event where Arnold Swarzenegger got
Speaker 1: up and talked about how they lie in propaganda's in
Speaker 1: this event. Oh you didn't You didn't hear that? Allow
Speaker 1: me to play it for you. It was awesome. The
Speaker 1: Pope invites Arnold, this ridiculous Hollywood goblin, to come explain
Speaker 1: how they convinced everybody of this scam through pulling on heartstrings,
Speaker 1: through using kids.
Speaker 8: And we started our environmental movement in California. When I
Speaker 8: became governor, people went up behind us a cidema said,
Speaker 8: why is that you're talking about kind of change?
Speaker 1: This is the event with the ice cub idiot.
Speaker 8: People said, yeah, this is kind of dangerous. Oh, you
Speaker 8: need more than fifty percent right to get anything done.
Speaker 8: So we talked in about the rising sea level.
Speaker 1: Nothing. The needle didn't move.
Speaker 8: We talked about the glaciers melting, the ice is melting,
Speaker 8: the polar bears in danger. No matter what we said,
Speaker 8: it didn't move the needle. Nothing happened. But then the
Speaker 8: American Lung Association sent us a television commercial, little commercial
Speaker 8: that showed a kit, a little tiny kit trying to
Speaker 8: inhale almost was impossible. And then this child faded. We
Speaker 8: don't know what happened. Did it die, did it pass
Speaker 8: out or whatever. That little spot we put right away
Speaker 8: on television, and all of a sudden everyone got interested,
Speaker 8: and we had sixty two percent of the people behind us.
Speaker 1: In other words, we use the kid. Retards everyone needs
Speaker 1: to retired, and we use the kid. This was the
Speaker 1: way I used to see you. The people are retired,
Speaker 1: we use a kid, don't use the logic.
Speaker 2: Of the facts.
Speaker 1: So all of these idiot tradcats filling up the comments
Speaker 1: because one of my posts on this actually went kind
Speaker 1: of viral, right, So the one that I said, uh
Speaker 1: time for orthodoxy got like one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: views or more, I mean mini viral, not super viral,
Speaker 1: and so reading all the people objecting to it It's
Speaker 1: like they don't even realize that climate change is a scam.
Speaker 1: They actually think that the Pope is trying to save
Speaker 1: the world from climate change and Arnold is telling the
Speaker 1: truth right helping us here. So I had to remind them,
Speaker 1: and not just them, also people in our sphere that
Speaker 1: climate change is a pr rebranding of global warming. And
Speaker 1: prior to that, it was the Coming Ice Age, and
Speaker 1: part of that it was acid rain and the hold
Speaker 1: the ozone, all this stuff over the decades. All these
Speaker 1: are Malthusian scams, and they're invented by the Club of
Speaker 1: Rome in their think tank document called First Global Revolution.
Speaker 1: This is from that book, The Common Enemy of Humanity
Speaker 1: is Man. The environmental movement is a Malthusian movement. Now
Speaker 1: maybe originally there was some sincere people, but now it's
Speaker 1: that in search of our new enemity nine as we
Speaker 1: came up with the idea that pollution threat of little warming, etc.
Speaker 1: To the bill. There you go. What's the Club of Rome?
Speaker 2: Were you.
Speaker 1: Now to also make this applicable to orthodox Unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: EP is as bad as Rome in many ways. I
Speaker 1: am not going to repeat this two plus hour stream
Speaker 1: that I did seven years ago. You can go watch
Speaker 1: this stream right here critiquing the EP in his he
Speaker 1: literally wrote a book with the Clintons on the Green agenda.
Speaker 1: So like that's he's identically the same. Okay, there's this
Speaker 1: one it's called the Spooky Subversion of Orthodoxy. And there's
Speaker 1: another one. Oh what did I name it? Actually there's two? Uh,
Speaker 1: here we go. Pagdriar concept double and the Ukrainian Schism
Speaker 1: were here also like seven or eight years ago. By
Speaker 1: the way, I've been vindicated all this. You understand that
Speaker 1: all the stuff. When I said this seven eight, nine
Speaker 1: years ago, everybody, even a massive amount of the Orthodox world,
Speaker 1: called me every name of the book, crazy conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 1: I was evil. I was the worst person for talking
Speaker 1: about this. Okay, who has been vindicated? Now? Have any
Speaker 1: of these priests, bishops of people? Have any of them
Speaker 1: apologized that I was right? No? No, I mean not
Speaker 1: any of these other jurisdictions. I mean people in Rokor
Speaker 1: have been receptive. Have any of the other ones? No? No,
Speaker 1: Even though everything I said is correct, even though everything
Speaker 1: I said about Ukraine all that's correct, I'm still bad.
Speaker 1: And this is when the OCA went after me. They
Speaker 1: started coming after me after this, you see see that.
Speaker 1: So there's also this one CIA's man in Constantinople. When
Speaker 1: this came out in the American Conservative. All the stuff
Speaker 1: that I've been saying for eight years, and then we
Speaker 1: get a guy writing about I'm not knocking the guy
Speaker 1: I'm saying. A guy writes about it last year in
Speaker 1: the American Conservative, mainline right wing magazines. Oh you mean
Speaker 1: all the stuff that I said for the last eight
Speaker 1: years that made me a bad man in orthodox world
Speaker 1: and all of you naive people who just believed all
Speaker 1: your normy docs about how bad I was. Oh, and
Speaker 1: then the coof happens and I oppose all that. Oh
Speaker 1: he's even worse. Oh he's the worst person ever. So
Speaker 1: you understand all of the reasons why people in the
Speaker 1: OCA and these people like, why I'm bad, it's this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's because I talk about this, and I was writing
Speaker 1: about Stabby's and coof and that was a whole another
Speaker 1: series of years of why I was bad. And they
Speaker 1: just lied. They lied and said I didn't have a church,
Speaker 1: They lied and said I don't go to church, that
Speaker 1: I just made all this up, don't They just lie?
Speaker 1: And they're no different than trad cats. I would say
Speaker 1: about half of the Orthodox world is good and about
Speaker 1: half of them are mentally insane, unstable and crazy and evil.
Speaker 1: So it's half an hour wheat and chaff. Now none
Speaker 1: of them. But here's the weird part. Nobody will just say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were actually correct. They just double down and still
Speaker 1: say that I'm evil even though I was right about everything.
Speaker 1: And the bad news is that the reason for that
Speaker 1: is that a lot of the stuff that we've talked
Speaker 1: about today. Obviously the Orthodox Church is not immune to this.
Speaker 1: The EP and many people in go ARC, many of
Speaker 1: the priests, many of those people, they are all so compromised.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got like Orthodox bishops like Bishop Glitzen
Speaker 1: who openly say Origin is a saint, which is totally heterodox,
Speaker 1: Like what what are you talking about? And then his
Speaker 1: priests underneath him attack me. There was one doing it yesterday,
Speaker 1: and it's like, due, how are you attacking me when
Speaker 1: your bishop says Origin is a saint? Like, I think
Speaker 1: you've got bigger problems than me. No, but you see,
Speaker 1: I'm the problem because I'm not an a humanist. I
Speaker 1: don't do what these random meess people tell me. To
Speaker 1: do anyway tro orthodox. What corrupts more deeply elite manipulation
Speaker 1: by institutional capture you're saying, or individual choice and rejecting
Speaker 1: the truth. I think both things happen, but individual choice
Speaker 1: happens at a smaller level, right. Institutional corruption happens because
Speaker 1: power elites, power players work to compromise powerful, influential people.
Speaker 1: So if you are no i'm i'm, here is your
Speaker 1: o c A dieside himself. This is the guy who
Speaker 1: sends priests to come after me attacks. He won't do
Speaker 1: it himself. He just sends other priests and people to
Speaker 1: attack me. He's done it for years.
Speaker 9: Here's him and lunch was from origin of Alexandria, the great,
Speaker 9: very great patristic writer. He was not appreciated him. Three
Speaker 9: hundred years later they condemned him as a heretic after
Speaker 9: he had died in the peace of the church three
Speaker 9: hundred years which was wrong. But he was still a saint.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So your OCA bishops tell you
Speaker 1: that origins of saint a man who was a universalist,
Speaker 1: anti trinitarian who castrated himself. I've also been told by
Speaker 1: reliable people that your bishop Glitzen here is a fan
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Socialist of America. So you have a
Speaker 1: socialist Democratic Socialist bishop, but I'm a bad guy. So
Speaker 1: you see how this works. And in all the minions
Speaker 1: of these people who just bark and chirp and repeat,
Speaker 1: how dare you speak of a bishop this way? How
Speaker 1: dare you? It doesn't matter what his office is, if
Speaker 1: he's saying like outright crazy stuff, doesn't matter. No, you
Speaker 1: didn't misspeak. I've met him and I've had lunch with him,
Speaker 1: I've talked to him extensively. It's not, oh, it's accident.
Speaker 1: They just slipped up. No, he's totally a lib. But
Speaker 1: I mean, why are you guys surprised? Like this is
Speaker 1: what This is the way that church is or control
Speaker 1: is that compromise. People are put into positions like that
Speaker 1: on purpose. It's it's this is not rocket science, dudes,
Speaker 1: It's like simple stuff. Yeah, so here here it comes.
Speaker 1: And the other The other thing that's weird about this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is like when you if you talk
Speaker 1: about this, the immediate reaction is that people will talk
Speaker 1: about how bad you are. No, you're evil, You're evil
Speaker 1: for talking about it. Remember roots of orthodoxy. I went
Speaker 1: in the comments and pointed out that the guy is
Speaker 1: a fraud like he openly lied, he admitted he lied.
Speaker 1: He's not a Catechuman. He told all the priests to
Speaker 1: come on a channel to be that he's a catechumy
Speaker 1: he's not. He's Rumman calvioc As he was putting out
Speaker 1: all this Orthodox material on a channel that says it's
Speaker 1: Eastern Orthodox. He's also producing all of Voice of Reasons
Speaker 1: anti Orthodox content. Still claims it's an Orthodox channel as
Speaker 1: a Uni a Roman Catholic, and he's making all that
Speaker 1: money from his channel drifting. But all the people in
Speaker 1: the comments said, I'm bad for calling that out. That's
Speaker 1: how crazy this stuff is.
Speaker 10: What what're saying?
Speaker 1: Right? Anyway, I've never set foot in the OCA church
Speaker 1: since that time, except for a funeral which was not
Speaker 1: an OCA funeral as one of our parishioners passed away
Speaker 1: until we had to have it at Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: talk about this, you're bad. It's it's bad for you
Speaker 1: to bring it up. How dare you? And they just
Speaker 1: they'll pull rank on you in gaslight you that's just
Speaker 1: a tactic, right, Vincent five dollars? Hey, look up Brian Harpell.
Speaker 1: He's Charlie Kirk security, Okay, I have to look into that.
Speaker 1: Barrett ten dollars, I'm Orthodox, had a cumin Please bully
Speaker 1: me that I ever considered Latin papalism. Hey, look, it's
Speaker 1: not your fault. If you got duped by quote minds
Speaker 1: and tricks, you duped me. In two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: I started reading the papal apologists. I thought, hey, that's
Speaker 1: a a lot of evidence of a papacy. But you
Speaker 1: have to be precise because I've noticed, especially since the
Speaker 1: Tim Gordon debate. You guys, remember how that was framed.
Speaker 1: It was is there evidence for the papacy? Well, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? I mean, there's the Orthodox conception
Speaker 1: of the papacy. Sure, but you noticed the bait and
Speaker 1: switch word concept trickery there. Oh is there evidence for
Speaker 1: the papacy? And if I say, well, yeah, oh see,
Speaker 1: but we got diary the papacy, the question is the
Speaker 1: Vatican One conception of the papacy? Is there evidence for
Speaker 1: that in the first thousand years? That's the real debate.
Speaker 1: But they like to voice of prison. They like to
Speaker 1: voice of sleezon. Oh like like the cookie I like
Speaker 1: to bide cookie body he he talks like TikTok of
Speaker 1: oz And by the way, isn't it funny that when
Speaker 1: all of his scandal came out, what was all what
Speaker 1: was the first thing all the robic Keller said, you
Speaker 1: gotta forgive him, You gotta forgive him. Don't be your pharisee.
Speaker 3: Don't be phill right, jos.
Speaker 1: Dude, if if anything half like as insane as that
Speaker 1: came out about me, they would be calling for my death. Dude.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, it's justified to kill Diary. It's justified
Speaker 1: to kill him. Like it's so crazy, dude. They're like
Speaker 1: the biggest hippocrites out man.
Speaker 3: Diars should be hung unstrung, he should be drawn and quartered.
Speaker 1: But if it's Voice of Season, oh, you gotta forgive him, dude.
Speaker 1: He publicly apologized, bro. Voice of Diddy. By the way,
Speaker 1: you notice he would never debate me. I asked multiple times,
Speaker 1: multiple people, sent multiple dms. Never got anything back, not
Speaker 1: even in fact. One guy that was trying to mediate
Speaker 1: between me and Voice of Reason, Right, I forget who
Speaker 1: he was. Some dude on Twitter. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I know v or He's like, do you want me
Speaker 1: to try to set up a bit between you and
Speaker 1: vo or like yeah, absolutely, so he's like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: a DM, and then out of nowhere it goes quiet.
Speaker 1: The guy never replies. In fact, I even say, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Where's that debate? Ghosted me? Uh so? And
Speaker 1: by the way, that was right before all the stuff
Speaker 1: came out. So he either he ghost to me because
Speaker 1: all that crap came out, or he goes to me
Speaker 1: because Voice of Reason was like, no, I'll never debate.
Speaker 3: That, dude.
Speaker 1: But I mean, did you notice, I mean, just how
Speaker 1: arrogant and just ridiculous he was in the UBI debate, right,
Speaker 1: and and UBI makes like one joke and the Roman
Speaker 1: look over me like, oh, it's the end of the world.
Speaker 1: UBI makes one sasas comment to Voice of Reason, and oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, he's so evil. Look at the arrogance of
Speaker 1: UBI Petres.
Speaker 3: Oh he can't debate.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. I mean, they're they're the biggest cry bullies.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Bobby C five dollars. He was
Speaker 1: at my parish to raise a new priest. Ask him
Speaker 1: my origin is a Saint Barrett? Excuse me, no one
Speaker 1: became a member. What's up, dude, Voice of Mohammed.
Speaker 11: That's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody exemplifies the cry out as they strike you
Speaker 1: worse than the Roman Catholics, They're worse than the Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern people. JB. Pelt a two dollars. Voice of Reason
Speaker 1: is a tool. I mean I didn't think UBI did.
Speaker 1: UBI didn't do bad in that debate. I mean I
Speaker 1: think every debate you look back and you think I
Speaker 1: could have done better. But if the debate was about
Speaker 1: how is that debate frame of a tournament? It was
Speaker 1: like something like is the Catholic Church is the is
Speaker 1: the Orthodox Church the catholc Church? Something like that, Like
Speaker 1: for UBI to say, yeah, but what about in your position?
Speaker 1: And then him just be like this't abate? Like what
Speaker 1: I mean? Did you not notice when Voice of Reason
Speaker 1: was debating Luigi that he would hit mute and he
Speaker 1: had headphones and like he was talking to somebody who
Speaker 1: was calling him. You can see him like either he's
Speaker 1: typing to somebody or he's talking to Ibarra or Lofton.
Speaker 1: That's how. But the people are they're pathetic, due they're pitiful, man,
Speaker 1: you can you can see it. It's he goes silent,
Speaker 1: but he's like, who are you talking to dude, it's
Speaker 1: not your time to talk. Well, he's getting answers from
Speaker 1: his Goblin crew obviously. And by the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize when I was debating Liquid Zulu he was
Speaker 1: doing the same thing until somebody pointed out the other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll be damned, he is doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm debating Google right, by the way, so you yourself. The
Speaker 1: libertarian comments underneath this debate, they're a riot, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: they don't know anything. They don't know what metaphysics is.
Speaker 1: They have no idea what epistemology. They don't know what
Speaker 1: it means to justify a position. Like one guy was like,
Speaker 1: Liquid Zulu justified his position. It's called an opening statement.
Speaker 1: They think just saying your position is justifying the position.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, dude, they don't know anything. One guy was like,
Speaker 1: libertarianism is not metaphysical. Has nothing to do with metaphysics, dude.
Speaker 1: The nap is an a and one guy said language
Speaker 1: is an ought, Like well, these are just just insanely
Speaker 1: stupid people. Man, What the heck, why are you even
Speaker 1: trying to debate? Man? But like, uh, rewatching a little
Speaker 1: bit of this, I was like, oh, he's just googling stuff.
Speaker 1: He's just like livetime Google debate. It's crazy. And then
Speaker 1: and all of his crew is like, oh, you got owned, dude,
Speaker 1: you got owned, dude. Heh butt blasted you, dude, you
Speaker 1: got owned, dude, got destroyable. Dude is sitting there sipping
Speaker 1: his four loco, burping half of the stream, freaking burping,
Speaker 1: being quiet, saying I don't have to answer that. Who
Speaker 1: what idiot would think that drinking four locos and burping
Speaker 1: half of the stream is owning and winning a debate.
Speaker 1: So I just left well raged, he raged. Quit. It's
Speaker 1: like when them cocash was freaking eating ramen noodles in
Speaker 1: our debate. I'm like, are you eating first of all
Speaker 1: ramen noodles, that's your meal? What the hell's wrong with you? Dude?
Speaker 1: Remember that this is the first debate, first public debate. Look,
Speaker 1: he's freaking eating ramen noodles. Why are you eating ramen
Speaker 1: noodles in a debate? You idiot? Am I not? I've
Speaker 1: been reading all the super chats from YouTube. Relaxed it.
Speaker 1: I'm anna read your super jet ignatio five dollars. There's
Speaker 1: a Chilean Orthodox priest. He's an apologist. He speaks Spanish.
Speaker 1: The Catholic response to his videos with the same stuff.
Speaker 1: He's mean, he's rude. They're just being that's all they have, dude. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean the Roman Catholics are at that point like
Speaker 1: there's no answers to any of the position. They don't
Speaker 1: even care anymore. That's what's wild. It's like they don't
Speaker 1: care about ants sharing any of the arguments anymore. They
Speaker 1: just they basically just quit.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 1: All they do is just say that I'm bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it. Oh, he's a piece shit, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all they do. Literally, like if my name comes up,
Speaker 1: they just say he's bad and then they move on.
Speaker 1: They don't even care about when I'm signing thumb all
Speaker 1: they put aside all the pretenses, which is actually good
Speaker 1: because this is a step towards total victory, because if
Speaker 1: they still thought that they had some arguments, they would
Speaker 1: be giving them. Now they're just like, nah, just screw
Speaker 1: him now, we just hate him. He just sucks. What
Speaker 1: about the arguments? He sucks? Yeah, but what about it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 11: He sucks.
Speaker 1: He's bad. They just that's they don't care anymore, which
Speaker 1: is a good sign. Because that means that they're at
Speaker 1: the point where they're giving they're giving up on actually
Speaker 1: addressing or arguing any of the points because it's it's
Speaker 1: not working to use the old tried and true tricks. Yes,
Speaker 1: have debated Trent Horn, Oh, it's not infallible. People are realizing,
Speaker 1: like you just pull the no infallible card whenever it
Speaker 1: doesn't work for you, and then it's infallible when you
Speaker 1: want it. People are figuring this out that you're the
Speaker 1: same as Protestants. You just have more boring books than Protestants.
Speaker 1: Instead of the Bible and picking and choosing which ones
Speaker 1: worked for me at what time, you got ten thousand
Speaker 1: more papal documents, which are ten thousand times more boring.
Speaker 1: So you're actually worse than a Protestant in that regard
Speaker 1: because you got to sift through tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: pages of papal documents. Yeah, but what about Adam koquesh
Speaker 1: is ramen noodle? I'm like, dude, what are you you
Speaker 1: slurping ramen noodles before a debate. This was the first debate,
Speaker 1: by the way, this was even pre JF.
Speaker 8: JB.
Speaker 1: Pelty A ten dollars The truth of the heteronox is
Speaker 1: at the forefront. Now, I basically have Protestant friends straight
Speaker 1: at rejecting all the first century because it's not about
Speaker 1: the facts. Yeah, that's actually good though, So don't be
Speaker 1: upset when you see people resorting to, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the theology, I hate you. That's
Speaker 1: actually that means we're making progress. I'm being serious because
Speaker 1: they're just emotionally reacting, and it's like the last resort
Speaker 1: to where they've given up on intellectual responses. I mean,
Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw Matt Frad? Even
Speaker 1: Trent i'n't kept up with these people, Brian Holdsworth, Loften,
Speaker 1: any of them actually try to give like a like
Speaker 1: look like what we did tonight. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: we were not talking mainly about theology, but I mean
Speaker 1: we spent the first hour in history and theology. When
Speaker 1: was the last time any of the Roman Catholic out
Speaker 1: here actually put hours into detailed public refutation of positions?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe some of them haven't. I just haven't
Speaker 1: kept up. Let's see what Matt Frad's been doing. Are
Speaker 1: are we getting deep theological meat over here? Is the
Speaker 1: university system dead Catholicism is the new punk rock. So no,
Speaker 1: basically we're getting just low tier mush. The Latin Mass
Speaker 1: isn't going away, even though the papacy's actively banning it.
Speaker 1: Michael Knowles dating Internet, So we got to go back
Speaker 1: one month to Scott han talking about the apocalypse. Okay,
Speaker 1: so basically mush for the last month. Let's see what
Speaker 1: Let's see what? Uh, let's see we're lofting or two dogs,
Speaker 1: so welcome back. Well, here's at least a theology debate.
Speaker 1: Is Jesus God. But by the way, did you see
Speaker 1: he brought on Jake the Muslim metaphysician, so he'll bring
Speaker 1: on the enemies of Christ before anybody else. Of course,
Speaker 1: let's see what's Loften talking about here? Benedict or Leo,
Speaker 1: Vatican drama, Ice, blessings the Pope and Arnold. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would call this meat or anything substantial.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of it looks like a lot
Speaker 1: of low tiered like drama. And now he's having to
Speaker 1: resort to debates because nobody cares about his dumb ass
Speaker 1: takes and everything. Okay, who else is left? At least
Speaker 1: Trent's probably doing some kind of something refuting redeemed Zuomer
Speaker 1: sin sex questions, cancel culture, should we hate people? Doesn't
Speaker 1: really look like anything very media or substantial Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro. So basically they're retreating to culture war because
Speaker 1: they've lost the theology debates. This is what I'm assessing here. Hey,
Speaker 1: forget all the theology. We don't win that domain, plus
Speaker 1: all the money and the clicks or in the culture
Speaker 1: war stuff anyway. So that's where they're at. Who's left?
Speaker 1: Who else is there? Tim? Let's see what Tim's talking about.
Speaker 1: He's probably talking about Vatican drum, Welcome to Rules for Rector.
Speaker 1: You don't really get much theology over here, because of
Speaker 1: course God's glory is created, according to Tim Gordon. But
Speaker 1: I bet we get Vatican drama, soap opera and Rome.
Speaker 1: What do we got?
Speaker 13: Cultural war? Culture war? Culture war, culture war, cultural war, exorcism,
Speaker 13: drama drama, cultural war.
Speaker 1: So they're giving up on theology. Looks like to me,
Speaker 1: I don't care that Wagner met a video. I don't
Speaker 1: care what am I?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: No video? I mean if you don't find all the
Speaker 1: stuff that I've talked about convincing, and you want to
Speaker 1: be a Roman Catholic. As I've told you guys like
Speaker 1: I'm done due have fun with that. If you want
Speaker 1: to be a Roman Catholic and you find the idiotic
Speaker 1: Tomistic created grace position good, then I actually think we
Speaker 1: don't want you in Orthodoxy. I hope that you don't
Speaker 1: become Orthodox. We don't want people trying to make Orthodoxy tomas,
Speaker 1: so you should be kept out. We don't want you.
Speaker 1: Elia shared on five dollars, JA, do you have any
Speaker 1: specific recommendations on Lyons and Florence. Yes, the Ostromov book
Speaker 1: is a classic Council of Florence Ostromov. Yeah, but Wagner
Speaker 1: isn't a I just say go watch doctor bo Branson,
Speaker 1: because everything that I say is what I've actually read
Speaker 1: extensively in the Cappadocians. And what Wagner does is quote
Speaker 1: mining the Cappadocians to try to prove from Catholicism. And
Speaker 1: if you actually read the Cappadotion you don't have to
Speaker 1: read very far. They teach the Essen Syner distinction, they
Speaker 1: teach hypoestic properties, they teach the fathers of the soul arcade.
Speaker 1: They don't teach the tomistic nonsense. That he does as
Speaker 1: a revisionist, and again, go be with those guys, Go
Speaker 1: be a Roman Catholic, go be gay, and go away.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've asked Wagner multiple times to
Speaker 1: debate since in the last say six months, at least
Speaker 1: two or three times, and he says, I can't debate.
Speaker 1: I'm not debated, I'm not a debater. Make a video
Speaker 1: responding to me. I'm not gonna make videos.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I've asked multiple times, let's have a debate. He's not interested.
Speaker 1: So I just there's no point at this point, unless
Speaker 1: you're just brand new to all this material, that you
Speaker 1: would even consider a Roman Catholic option. Unless I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just just be gay. To just go
Speaker 1: be gay, like no one is stopping you from joining
Speaker 1: the Skittles church. Go do it. And I would, we would,
Speaker 1: we would. We would not want people wanting to make
Speaker 1: Orthodoxy tomistic. I mean they want Theophanes to be creatures.
Speaker 1: They think God has created attributes. It's just stupid. They
Speaker 1: they say, we're idolators when they say that God's glory
Speaker 1: is a creature. Like, it's so stupid, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking to people who by the way. The other
Speaker 1: thing is that they're not interested in our positions. I've
Speaker 1: given Tim Gordon the same book recommendations for five years.
Speaker 1: He read zero of them. That tells me that he's
Speaker 1: not interested. I've given Wagner book recommendations. He has read
Speaker 1: exactly zero of the recommendations that I give. Why would
Speaker 1: I give attention, traction, clicks and all of that. When
Speaker 1: a person is not interested in understanding the position, it's
Speaker 1: just polemics and clicks. There's no point. There is no
Speaker 1: way to get into orthodox theology without doing the reading.
Speaker 1: Who's another one? So they're just retreating the culture ward.
Speaker 1: They're giving up on theology because they've lost all the
Speaker 1: theology theology domain. Who else is there? Matt Frad, Trent Horn,
Speaker 1: Gordon Brian's. He doesn't even really do apologics though, like
Speaker 1: his style of should we listen to death metal? Like
Speaker 1: should Christian's listened to culture? Culture war? Culture war, Eucharist,
Speaker 1: culture war, ethics, culture war? Well, what I'm noticing, though,
Speaker 1: is culture war orthodoxy culture war. So a lot of
Speaker 1: this appeals in mass and it's because it's low tier.
Speaker 1: I tried to get Joel Hushmeier come debate, but you
Speaker 1: understand a lot of these people will not debate, and
Speaker 1: what they say is, oh, Dyer won't debate because he
Speaker 1: won't come on a Catholic channel to debate, even though
Speaker 1: for many of these people I've offered and tried to
Speaker 1: find some neutral thing and really they're not interested in debating,
Speaker 1: and so that becomes the excuse that, well, he's a
Speaker 1: bad actor, so I don't have to debate him. He's mean.
Speaker 1: And also he won't debate on a Catholic channel, which
Speaker 1: is not true. It's just that I've said I'll debate
Speaker 1: on a big Catholic channel, but they won't have me on.
Speaker 1: Matt Fridas, I'll never have him on. So these people
Speaker 1: are absolutely terrified of actual, real debate and confrontation because
Speaker 1: when I debated Trent Hornet didn't go good for Trent,
Speaker 1: and everybody knows it because Trent made basic blunders. He
Speaker 1: didn't he thinks the Trinity isn't the old test, Like
Speaker 1: just crazy shit. Justin did you see that go Art
Speaker 1: priest Elias Velis accept blessings and laying on of hands
Speaker 1: by a rabbi. I did see that, but like, why
Speaker 1: are we surprised they're acumenists. What do you expect? None
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Speaker 14: I want to show off something that we're all proud of.
Speaker 14: I got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted,
Speaker 14: much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just
Speaker 14: got this page up. We are just testing it out.
Speaker 14: You guys are some of the first people in the
Speaker 14: world to see it. I want to say, for my part,
Speaker 14: it's not philosophy one oh one. I think this is
Speaker 14: as mistitling. I really think is as like philosophy unleashed.
Speaker 14: Because a philosophy want on one course, they give you
Speaker 14: kind of some useless information that you can't make sense of.
Speaker 14: Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens
Speaker 14: of hours put into just the presentation of this, let
Speaker 14: alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that
Speaker 14: it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of
Speaker 14: the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different
Speaker 14: ways to look at it over time, and how that
Speaker 14: has been brought about to what we have today, which
Speaker 14: is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective, logic
Speaker 14: and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that
Speaker 14: is irrational is made up day by as people are
Speaker 14: like I think we should bring racism back, and then
Speaker 14: here's a justification, and then it gets woke afied and
Speaker 14: spread out, and then all of a sudden you have
Speaker 14: a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you become the
Speaker 14: property in action. You need to be able to stand
Speaker 14: on your own ground. It helps to have a foundation
Speaker 14: in philosophy because it's a method to fine truth when
Speaker 14: you get down to it. Philosophy is there because you
Speaker 14: love truth enough to go and learn how to find it,
Speaker 14: because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that.
Speaker 14: There is the landing page. We'll link it up in
Speaker 14: the notes. It is a longer once, so we'll get
Speaker 14: a shorter URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a
Speaker 14: link on his page. I just wanted to show it off.
Speaker 14: Now you know what exists, you can go look for
Speaker 14: it and see why this is not your father's philosophy, right,
Speaker 14: So well done. I'm proud of everyone who helped to
Speaker 14: produce and edit the course, and of course Jay did
Speaker 14: a flawless job in presenting the course over those twelve weeks.
Speaker 14: And he's a juggernaut. He's another guy just like John Bush,
Speaker 14: in action all the time, doing something productive, like very
Speaker 14: little wasted time in his week, those one hundred and
Speaker 14: sixty eight hours of being harnessed very well. I want
Speaker 14: to show off something that we're all proud of. I
Speaker 14: got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers much vaunted,
Speaker 14: much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just
Speaker 14: got this page up. We are just testing it out.
Speaker 14: You guys are some of the first people in the
Speaker 14: world to see it. I want to say, for my part,
Speaker 14: it's not philosophy one oh one. I think this is
Speaker 14: a mistitlank.
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Speaker 1: there's nothing about Isaiah's passage of Aliacim that is only
Speaker 1: to Peter. Oh, but he's the head over the whole house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Jesus is right, So Jesus is the head of
Speaker 1: the whole house. Oh but no, it's Peter. So everything
Speaker 1: that's about Christ suddenly gets turned into Peter. Remember when
Speaker 1: we did the Nick Fuentes debate and Nick said he
Speaker 1: thought that in Revelation when it said that I have
Speaker 1: the house, I have the keys of death and Hades,
Speaker 1: he thought that was Peter talking. Jesus is talking about Peter.
Speaker 1: There's nothing about Peter in that passage. So instinctually, Roman
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Speaker 1: I had a fellow Orthodox tell me no clear definition
Speaker 1: of the Trinity is given. I mean, that's a very
Speaker 1: odd thing for an Orthodox person to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Second Ecumenical Council is the Cappadocian Trinitarian Doctrine codified.
Speaker 1: I mean, just any basic Palmazanski's Orthodox dogmatics will lay
Speaker 1: out the basics of the Trinity. It's a very bizarre
Speaker 1: It sounds like a person who doesn't really know Orthox theology,
Speaker 1: sounding off like they think they know justin five dollars. No,
Speaker 1: we did that element two da visto three dollars. What
Speaker 1: is the theology quote unquote behind Saint Bernard receiving the
Speaker 1: breast milk from Mary. That's a good question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I have Bernard's commentaries on Song of Songs
Speaker 1: and so some of that is in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's just another level of Marian mysticism, and
Speaker 1: not all of which would necessarily be wrong, but it
Speaker 1: definitely begins to go in these kind of extreme directions.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what's in Bernard's commentary. I haven't, like,
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at that since I was a tradcat,
Speaker 1: so like I have. I don't even remember what's in
Speaker 1: his commentary on some of songs, but I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just going to be medieval Marian mysticism. However, I do
Speaker 1: think that there was a Romancalic dming me today. Actually
Speaker 1: he was talking smack and then I invited him to
Speaker 1: come to Bait, and of course he turned down, he declined.
Speaker 1: But I want to remind you guys of this present
Speaker 1: reality in the Sacramento. I think this is one of
Speaker 1: the overlooked reputations of Romantholsism, which is the just bizarre,
Speaker 1: outlandish ideas that you have to accept in terms of
Speaker 1: histrionic women Roman Catholic saints like Margaret Mary Ala Coquay
Speaker 1: and her cutting herself and Jesus told her to do it,
Speaker 1: and this is like Papal there's two papal bulls on this.
Speaker 1: You can't reject Margaret Mary Ala Cocoay.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Every time I bring this up, the first thing Romancalix
Speaker 1: says is, well, is that dogma that dog I actually
Speaker 1: have to believe that, Yeah, you do. You can't reject
Speaker 1: papal defined bowl Roman Catholic saints, and she is one
Speaker 1: of the most preposterous. So it's like, I mean, Elijah,
Speaker 1: the prophets of Baal are over there cutting themselves, doing
Speaker 1: the exact same thing that Margaret Marylyn cocoays do. Like
Speaker 1: just total delusion, dude, total delusion, Like the most extreme
Speaker 1: pre last you've ever heard of. But I think this
Speaker 1: is actually a really strong argument against roguetholism. In fact,
Speaker 1: I brought this up to Wagner and he even at
Speaker 1: one point said something, Hm, yeah, that's interesting. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say to that. So look, I mean,
Speaker 1: who cares about a PhD in tumism. I'll get PhD
Speaker 1: in tumism? Did Rome doesn't care about tumism. Rome's building
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Speaker 1: like you're paying you know, ten x in five years.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I could conceivably see paying for a
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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