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close relationship with the Rockefellers. And the reason the rock

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Fellers were so interested in this is that they wanted

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to get some of the liberal Jesuits on board to

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change the ethics of the Roman Catholic Church on contraception, abration,

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et cetera. They wanted the Rummancality Church to accept skittles,

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all of that stuff for deepop because of population control.

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It was old chap Trump. Now who is David Wemoff.

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David Wimmoff is a traditional Catholic, not a set of

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a contest, traditional Catholic lawyer, and he wrote this book

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which is one of the most important geopolitical books I've

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ever It's a thousand pages and it has at least

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probably a thousand footnotes, maybe more. I mean it's in

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note so I can't tabulate them for you. But like

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every chapter is, you know, thirty footnotes, and there's a

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bunch of little chapters, and the whole book details most

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of the stuff that you hear me talk about. Like

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there's a whole section on Quigley, it's a whole section

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on Woodrow Wilson and Fabian socialism, like, there's all of

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that in the book, but also the changes that were

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identified in Roman Catholic theology that needed to go. For example,

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multiple Roman Catholic papal teachings about the state being Christian

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would have to be overturned and done away with, such

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as Quas Primus, the Feats of Christ the King, the

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Document Immortal Day, and Timetsi Futura, all of which are

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papal documents which talks about the need for the state

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to also be or Christian etctera. You can't have acumenism

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and ecumenism can't be a CIA project if the Catholic

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Church continues to stress that the state be Catholic. So

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acumenism is Americanism applied to religion. That is the thesis

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of the first half of the book. And it's true,

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and he shows it, and not just him. Michael Gratziano,

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who has nothing to do with David Wimhoff or anything

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to do with this theological Catholic project, says the exact

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same thing. The OSS and the CIA understood that ecumenism

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is a geopolitical project. Now, when I was a tried cat,

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I was a dork, and I thought it was all theology.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's all theology Thomas Aquinas.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they don't care about Thomas Aquinas in Rome.

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What matters in Rome is geopolitics and money in the

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Vatican Bank. And that's what naive, ignorant, young trad cats

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don't understand. As I didn't understand until I grew up

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and got wise and I started reading things like books

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on the history of the Massad. What I mean, like

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Gordon Thomas's Gideon Spies. Why would I care about this

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in regard to the papers, Well, it turns out there's

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quite a bit on the papacy and Catholicism in this

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History of the Massad book. And I'll just give you

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one example. And I'm not I'm just showing you that

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there's multiple interests involved in something as big as the Vatican,

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in the Vatican Bank and so forth. If you, I

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recommend getting this book. By the way, it's a great book.

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A lot of what you've heard me talk about. There's

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actually an entire chapter also kind of echoing this. And

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for those that don't know, Gordon Thomas is a mainline

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best selling journalist historian. He's written forty books, many of

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them deal with the history of espionage and intelligence. He wrote,

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for example, a book on the history of five and

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m I six. He has a book I think I

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have a book of his on MK Ultra. He's written

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all kinds of stuff. Now, this is not a conspiracy book.

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In fact, on the back of the book there are

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blurbs and support from GQ Magazine, The Washington Post, Maxim

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Publishers Weekly, Kirkus Review, et cetera. Even the former head

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of the masaud says, this book tells it like it

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was and like it is. That's my year. I'm a

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former director of MASAD. So this isn't kooky stuff. This

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is mainline academic.

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Speaker 2: History.

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Speaker 1: If you go to page two fourteen. By the way,

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there's a really fascinating chapter on Henri Paul being an

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asset for French SIS and MI six. And although Gordon

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Thomas doesn't outright say that Diana was assassinated, you can

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lines in this chapter at the very beginning. Anyway, fast

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forwarding to page two fourteen, this is the chapter on

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the OSS and the Cia and the Vatican. Oh what

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about I thought those old conspiracies. No, no, it's actually mainline history.

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You just don't know about it. In nineteen forty five,

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the OSS was welcomed into the Vatican. In the words

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of James Jesus Angleton, who was the head of the

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OSS station in Rome, we came with open arms. Pius

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the twelfth and his curia asked James Jesus Angleton to

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help the Church set up a militant anti communist crusade

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by getting the Italian Christian Democratic Party exactly what I

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told you into power. Angleton was a practicing Roman Catholic

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and used all of his considerable resources at his disposal

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to bribe, blackmail and threaten anyone to support the Christian Democrats.

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information gathering services, So the Vatican is an intelligence agency.

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power information. Every curate and priest was called upon to

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report the activities of the Communists and watch their parishes.

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So they were all spying. Now I'm not saying comedy.

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It was good, by the way. I know a lot

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of a lot of you guys are dumb. I know

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a lot of you people have a challenge with the

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slow boy status I'm saying they're both bad. I know

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that's hard to figure out that that you don't just

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have good guys and bad guys in the world. I

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know it's not just cops and robbers, or I know

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you think it's cops and robbers, But do you understand

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there can be two bad guys? Do you understand two

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bad guys could oppose each other. I know that's hard

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for people with you know, under one hundred I qu

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to figure out. But they can happen, I promise. I

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mean everybody watches movies, right or they used to. Do

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you ever notice that sometimes two bad guys fight each other.

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If you watch the Sopranos, sometimes Tony fights other mobsters.

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When the bad can assess all this information, they would

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then pass it on to James Jesus Angleton, who would

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then send it on to assess and the lads at

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the CIA, so they kept tabs on all the Communists

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in Italy, and the priests were all spying. The Pope

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was convinced that the Italian Communists were the spearhead of

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a campaign to destroy the Romancllolic Church. Now that's partly true,

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but the question is does the CIA also want to

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perhaps co opt and destroy the Roman Galley Church as well.

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twelfth and Angleton became sessions where communism loomed ever larger. So, oh,

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wait a minute, it turns out James Jesus Angleton, the

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Israeli file CIA master spy, is regularly meeting with and

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consulting and telling Pious the twelfth what to do. In fact,

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the Pope asked Angleton to do anything until the US

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to do anything to destroy the communists. Pius the twelfth

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suddenly became an enthusiastic proponent of US foreign policy. Is

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interesting how that works. By nineteen fifty two, the Rome

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station chief was now By nineteen fifty two, Rome was

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now the station chief had now had the CIA and

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at the OSS, and it was a new devout tradcat

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William Colby. He went on to mastermind all the CIA's

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activities in Vietnam, including the Phoenix program, which was the

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weaponizing of serial killers. Colby had established a very powerful

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network of informers within the Vatican State and the Secretariat

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of State. In fact, every Vatican congregation had a network

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of Colby's CIA informants. He used them to help fight

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the CIA, to help the CIA fight Soviet espionage that

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was also happening in Rome and throughout the globe. Now

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that's true, And we covered John Kaylor's whole book on

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the KGB and the NKVD's operatives in the Vatican. So

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we've covered an entire that's a CIA historic that's a

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guy from the CI. We've covered his book. So you understand,

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I don't just go by conspiracy books. I go by

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critic of the CIA and mouthpiece of the CIA books.

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We look at both. I know that's hard for some

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of you people to understand that there's establishment books and

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anthe established books, and that we read both. I know

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you're either or you're dialectical, but we don't do that.

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That's why the analysis that we do is superior to

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everybody else's analysis. And no one else, no one else

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lectures through the books dozen by dozen by dozen like

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we do. Who else does this? There are no other

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channels that do this. I know Richard Grove talks about books.

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I love Richard Grove. I'm saying, who lectures through all

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the theology and the church history and the philosophy and

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the geopolitics and the espionage. Plenty of channels. Do one

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or the other who does all this? In nineteen sixty

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the CIA achieved another breakthrough with Cardinal Montini Paul the six.

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Three years later, he gave the CIA the names of

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all the priests that the United States deemed by the

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Vatican to be perhaps potentially communists. Now, in practice, in theory,

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I don't even necessarily have a problem with this, because

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I assume that this is going to happen, and this

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is what would happen. But my point is that who

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has ever told you this, that your priests and your

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Roman Catholic prelates are spying on you and giving information

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to people in Washington, and Washington is giving them information

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in dirt. Nobody tells you this. The Cold War was

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at his peak, and thus paranoia ran rife. The FBI

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hounded priests, many of them that were suspected of being

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liberation theologians, et cetera. The CIA thus had a substantial

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slush fund called Project Money, that they used to make

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generous gifts to Catholic charity, schools and orphanages. These would

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pay for the restoration of churches and buildings that the

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Vatican owned all expense paid holidays were given to priests

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and nuns known to be staunchly pro American. What's the

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problem going good? Based and tread?

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Speaker 3: Do you based and tread?

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Speaker 1: The problem is you now have new masters, you dummy.

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Do you think the CIA is just your buddy? They

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just give you millions of dollars and put all this

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in the Vatican bank because they're cool. Who based and

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tried to do? They're so cool.

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Speaker 3: They just give like free money, Bros, give it all.

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Speaker 1: Free money, Bro, They're so cool. No, it means you

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now owe them. Okay, this is big boy pants stuff.

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This is organized crime level stuff. You don't get millions

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of dollars and do whatever you want, bro, You then

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owe them. They're your masters. Now the borrower is servant

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to the lender herbs one on one. Successive CIA station

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chiefs thus were regarded by the Vatican as more important

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than the American ambassadors to Italy. When John the twenty

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three was elected punt of nineteen fifty eight, he stunned

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the Curia. He was saying that a crusade against communism

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had failed. He's the pink Pope right. He ordered that

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the Italian bishops become politically neutral. The CIA began to

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be frantic when Pope John offered his access, offered excuse me,

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ordered that CIA access to the Vatican must cease. The

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agency's panic increased when the CIA leen learned that the

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Pope had begun to nurture the seeds of what he

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called an embryonic ospolitic and started a cautious dialogue with

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Khrushchev for the CIA station chief in Rome. The Vatican

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was no longer committed to the American project. Now, so

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you see how this is complicated? Right? I would agree

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with John the twenty third stopping the Vatican direct control

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access pipeline to the CIA, but not for the reasons

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that John the twenty third is doing it. You see.

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So John twayn third is doing it because he's open

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to Soviet communism. They say, you see how this is complex.

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of you people think it's the world as cops and robbers,

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your fourth graders who think everything works that way. But again,

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you can have two bad guys fighting. Did you understand that?

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Can you conceive of that? CIA analysts in Washington prepared

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exhaustive assessments with such grandiose titles as the links between

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the Vatican and Communism. The cia IS director at that time,

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John McComb, flew to Rome and demanded a meeting with

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John twenty third. He had come at the insistence of

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America's first Catholic President, JFK. Nicole Well. Mccohone told the

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pontiff that the Church must stop this drift towards communism.

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blunt manner without any interruptions. So you see like, this

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is not this is not the LARPing crusade bull crap

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that tradcats think. The CIA flies in, gets in the

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face of the Pope and says you're going to do this.

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Does this sound like medieval crusading LARPing bullshit where the

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pope is the emperor queisats hotter rock of the world.

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John the twenty third explained that the Church had an

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urgent duty to solve world poverty, to help human rights,

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to close down slums. What I mean what, and to

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end racism. Oh I goess so? Johnswaye third is basically

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just spouting a bunch of woke bullshit, as the CIA

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directors yelling in his face, I mean, there you go,

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Speaker 4: Was that to you?

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to talking to anybody that would help him end racism,

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even the Soviets. This is so gay, dude. The only

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way to meet the challenge of communism was to confront

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it with reason and argumentation. Yeah right, good luck with that.

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CIA director mccoone, unable to contain his anger. I had

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not come here to debate you. The CIA is going

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to tell you what to do. At that point, McCone returned,

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convinced that John the twenty third was too soft on communists.

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John twenty thirds not unexpected death rapidly progressed, so his

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cancer caused him to meet a very soon. Interesting. Now,

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I don't know that this was I'm not saying that

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it was an assassination, but it's interesting that John Paul

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the first was definitely assassinated very quick when he fell

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a foul of these people in these individuals and John

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the twenty third, according to Gordon Thomas, died pretty quick

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after telling off the CIA director interesting. We don't know,

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is it was it? Who knows, but it's just an

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interesting series events. And then who becomes pope? Well, the

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one who was really close to the CIA, Paul the six,

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Cardinal Montini. In nineteen sixty three, two days after his inauguration,

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the Pope received JFK in his office privately outside. ZIA

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Director John mccoon strolled through the Vatican like a landowner

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who had returned home after a long absence. So you

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think you're gonna tell the CIA what to do? John

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the twenty third, Bye bye, and we will put in

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our man, Paul the six. Now, isn't it interesting that

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when I brought this up the other day some people

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were skeptical. When I replied to Tom Woods, remember this,

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Tom Woods couldn't believe what what are you talking about? Dire?

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Why are you Why would the pope submit to international

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elites when the pope has the same ideology, he doesn't

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need to submit. No, no, I'm talking about this stuff.

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This is why the pope submits. He knows that if

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he doesn't, he might just meet a John Paul the

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First or a John the twenty third, quick end, And

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that doesn't mean that John and the Paul the First

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and John the twenty third are good people. Do you

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understand a bad guy can kill another bad guy? You dummies.

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I'm talking about the newbies that show up.

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Speaker 3: What is this skizo shit skizo? Whether he never read

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a book but needs a skid though he'll read books.

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She's a skid though.

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Speaker 1: Now check this out. Somebody said, rock, it's what dire

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saying true. Watch this? This was great. So I said

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to Tom Woods, why would the popes take orders? I

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just read to you an example why the popes take

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orders from a historian, an intelligence historian. The same reason

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the Roth tells were the papal bankers. The Vatican Bank

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was bailed out, bought out in Gladiol. The CIA was

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involved in papal conclaves. Kissinger regularly Paul the six and

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the pdf blackmail exists. Now one swift young individual here

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Epp said, Groc, is this real? And then Groc says

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yes to everything but one. The only reason he doesn't

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say yes to the bailout was because Groc doesn't know

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what's in the Paul Williams book. Some of these claims

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check out. The raw tells were the people bankers the

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Vatican Bank scannels bank on Bragio involved in big payouts,

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but no confirmed buyout typed to Gladio. Oh really, groc

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Let's see about that, because it just so. It turns

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out that there is a chapter on that. So at

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one point the Vatican Bank was down like a billion dollars.

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It was some crazy amount. I think it's a billion.

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Let's let's check that.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna fact check.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, the rock fillers have mentioned in here a

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bunch okay, one, let's try ninety one, ninety two. Maybe

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that's it. They had, by the way, a bunch of

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investments too. Remember they were they were trying to invest

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and put money everywhere. They weren't just like they weren't

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just storing the money. Right, So what happens when these

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criminals get all this money is they take your money

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and then they try to bet and make money on it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: This happened in the housing collapse. They were betting with

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everybody's money, and then when it all collapsed because their

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their bets were bad bets. They then got the government

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to bail the banks out through the taxpayer money, which

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they had been using anyway, they were using private people's moneies.

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They've been using their their customers' money is to bet

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and then when the housing market collapsed, they got everybody's

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tax money to bail them mount. Let's see one, let's

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try one thirty one two. I want to read you

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this because I don't want to, like, there's so much

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information in this book that it's hard to remember it all.

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So I want to refresh myself on exactly the money here.

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It is Augustine Pinochet and the bailout model.

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Speaker 4: This is it.

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Speaker 1: I think the Banka Privata collapsed. That's it. By the way,

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this happens under Paul the six.

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Speaker 5: So in case you're wondering, Okay, oh man, this is

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so complicated.

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Speaker 1: Now you when you read a book like this, you

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understand why the FBI when they when even when you

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watch a movie or something like, they have these giant

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boards with faces and charts and boxes and lines. It's

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like it's they're charting out because what criminals do is

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they will concoct like really elaborate ways to hide money

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with shell companies that set up other shell companies, and

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it becomes a huge intentional labyrinth to confuse, and the

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criminals are doing that on purpose because they're they're smart.

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In fact, there was a genius engineer who engineered the

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Brazilian car wash scandal. If you've never heard of that,

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look it up. It will show you what I'm talking about.

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Because the entire government was structured under a giant control

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scheme that compromised all of the government. But it was

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so elaborate and it was ingenius that it took many,

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many years to figure out how they had set up

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a scam. And it turns out the CIA and the

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FBI figured out that it was a guy that they

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called the Sicilian. I don't even know if he was Sicilian,

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he could have been anything. Was basically a guy with

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a PhD in criminology who had constraint. It was like

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a mastermind, evil genius, and he had constructed an almost indiscoverable,

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impenetrable criminal enterprise that corrupted the entire country. It was crazy.

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There's a documentary and a TV show on this. It's

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called the Brazilian car Wash Scandal. Now that's an innocuous scandal,

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but it's a reference to the way that the whole

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organized organized crime structure fell was that it just so

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happened that one of the members of the criminal gang

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accidentally left a car at a car wash when they

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were doing something, and somebody allan some of the information

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when they were cleaning the car, and this led to

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the whole thing collapsing. Anyway, it's a really famous case.

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But I'm still not finding the Rockefeller There's a specific

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place where this book mentions the amount that the Vatican

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Bank and other connected banks in it. Because all these

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banks are connected, right, So the Vatican Bank, the Bank

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of the Brosia, all these different banks are all connected

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because they're all using the same funds and the same scams,

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and is a specific amount. Let's see picture on thirty six.

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It's also similar to the Franklin cover up too, by

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the way, which is fascinating. Ninety six. I'll try that

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out here we go. This is it. It's chapter eighteen,

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and it's the chapter called Blackfriars Bridge. This is where

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Roberto call Roberto calvi was hanging upside down on Masonic pose.

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I'm being serious. So when Roberto Calviy was killed, he

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was hanging upside down in a tarot card Masonic pose.

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What's it called where the guy is it just the

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death card. No, that's not the death card. What's the

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one where the guy's hanging upside down, Jamie, hanged man.

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That's it. Hanged man pose, that's it. So if I

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recall when Roberto CALVII was assassinated, he was found hanging

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upside down in that pose, and he'd been killed by

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obviously by the P two. I'll read this to you

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and then you'll see I'm where I'm getting this. The

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decision to kill Calvey was not taken lightly. The CIA

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had to resolve the bankoed Ambrosio affair, providing Francesco Pazienza

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as the banker's new international consultant. The move displayed the

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agency's determination to resolve the Ambrosiano Imbruglio and few individuals

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are more vital of importance to Gladio than Patzienza. No

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one was more wired into the operations power brokers. As

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a trained physician, Pasienza had abandoned his medical profession to

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serve as a Gladio operative. He was dispatched to serve

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ceise me I think that's Italian military intelligence and was

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assisted by a former NATO general, Santo Vito, Commander, Secretary

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of State Alexander Haig and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

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So these three people kind of running this operation here

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to get rid of Calvi. According to Williams, a leading

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member of P two, Kissinger regularly met with lechio Gelly

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or excuse me, patziens As a leading member of P two,

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regularly meeting with lechio Gelly, who was the Masonic P

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two basically running everything on our Kissinger. He was later

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named as a co conspirator in the Bologna bombing, which,

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as we pointed out, is a Gladio operation. Since nineteen

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seventy eight, he had been working closely with Henry Arson

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at sipbomb arranging the sale of a fleet of warships

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to Saddam Hussein. Pazienza was also a man of honor

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with filial ties to to Callo and Inzaillo, members of

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the Gambino family in the United States. By the way,

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this said, all tie into John Gotti and send me

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the bull too. By the way, that's why I should

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have asked him about this. Didn't think too. Thanks to

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the friendship with Michael Ledeen, Pozienza became deeply involved in

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US political affairs, including the implementation of Billy Gate. This

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was a plot connecting President Jimmy Carter's brother with the

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Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine, a group that

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sought the destruction of Israel and thus would tarnish the

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reputation of Carter. President Reagan was duly impressed with Potzienza's

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talents in the diplomatic into regnum created by Reagan's removal

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of Richard Gardner blah blah blah. In nineteen eighty one,

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Potzienza began to devise a plan to plug the gaping

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one point seventy five billion dollar hole in the Banco Dembrosio.

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It had been created by the loans to the Vatican's

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shell companies. Through his CIA contacts, he arranged for two

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American investors, presumably David Rockefeller and Robert Armaio, and three

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Saudi businessmen to pay two banks one point two billion

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to buy the nine shell companies that now held sixteen

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percent of the bank called Ambrosio's stock. For several months,

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the letter served to quiet the concerns of the shareholders,

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so they sent out this letter that don't worry funds

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out a safe fool, your funds out a saffool. That's

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an old binance meme. If you don't know when posy ends.

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It gained the necessary backing for this plan. The bailout

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of one point two billion dollars was in place. The

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group agreed to bring sixteen to buy sixteen percent of

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the Ambrosiano stock held by all the shell companies as equity.

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The investors intended to purchase more shares at an inflated

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rate from the interested sellers in order to obtain a

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twenty percent holding. This would grant them then ownership of

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one of Italy's most prestigious banks. The matter seemed Roberto

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Calvi then sighed a sigh of relief. No one expected

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John Paul the Second's reaction. Pope John Paul the Second

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opposed this plan, not because he's a good person, but

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according to Potzienza, he said it was a pipe dream.

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He just didn't think it would work. In a nineteen

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eighty six interview with Lospresso magazine, Potzianza said the Ambrosiano plan,

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in the eyes of the Pope, was to represent the

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modern secular arm of the Church in the world. This

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new temporal power was seen as the penetration and control

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of financial and publishing activities, including the acquisition of Italy's

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leading daily newspaper. This would counterbalance the secular Marxist influences

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that were becoming ever popular and predominant in Italy. The

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popes believed that the Church could weather this crisis and

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thus take ownership of Bangote Ambrosio was reflected by the

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optimistic statements from Archbishop Marcinkus, another one of the criminals

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involved in nineteen eighty two the storm clouds gathered around

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the Holy See. Marcinkus, in an interview with the Italian magazine, said,

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Roberto Calvi merits our trust. We have no reason to

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doubt him. We have no intention to seed the Banco Dembrosio.

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And of course it didn't work. Ambrosiano collapsed. I wonder

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if that means that they didn't buy it out, because

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if it collapsed, then maybe they didn't sell it. I

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don't remember. On June eleventh, while packing his bags, Roberto

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Calvi told his son, I will reveal to you the

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things that were once known that will rock the Vatican.

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This will cause the Pope to resign. Interesting, well, it

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didn't cause Pope Jump on the second to resign, But

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what it showed in Calvi was partly correct. What it

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did show was that all the decisions in Italy were

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made by lechio Gelli at the best of Kissinger. That's

469
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according to Calvi and Williams here right and on page

470
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,599
two thirty one about the Masonic symbolism of the death,

471
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,039
Calvi's demise was suspicious. Members of the various Masonic lodges

472
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240
in Italy do wear black robes and they call each

473
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,160
other friars, thus the black Friars, an Italian name for

474
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,079
a Freemason. There's even a black Friar's lodge called Lodge

475
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,559
three seven two two on the list of Masonic lodges

476
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:49,920
in Italy. In fact, the masonry and the form of

477
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,319
the brick, the form of the body was seen as

478
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:58,599
significant as he was hung in the way that traders

479
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:05,240
should be roped down according to Tarot, so the hang

480
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:12,719
demand there. Now, to go back to Gordon Thomas's history

481
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:26,119
of the massade, after the death of John Paul John

482
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the twenty third, we got the pro c a John

483
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:40,480
or Paul the six, and then we got under Nixon.

484
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,480
The Holy See once again establishes close connection to the CIA.

485
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:54,119
Under Nixon in regard to the Vietnam War. All this

486
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,920
za V z Amir had learned from his Washington Kotz

487
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,320
Katsas are the people that aid Masad, and the CIA

488
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,320
are resuming the Masade and Israelis and other countries. That's

489
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,199
the operatives. I should say that the Cyaneme are the

490
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239
ones that aid them. Katzas are the operatives. Now, this

491
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,079
brilliant sunny morning of January ten, nineteen seventy three, he

492
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,920
and his two colleagues were driven to the Vatican. So

493
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,840
this is the head of Masad. I think it's the

494
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,599
Sun driven to the Vatican to check the security arrangements

495
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:29,159
for Golden Myra's visit to the Vatican. Zamir hoped it

496
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,159
result in Massad taking the place of the CIA in

497
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:34,559
the Vatican. So the Masada wants to establish this key

498
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,159
integral relationship with the Holy See waiting for them out

499
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,480
insie the Palace as the Vatican. In Vatican security, a

500
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,440
tall pinch face man unlocked the form of the Vigilii,

501
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,519
the Vatican security service. So wait a minute, keep in mind,

502
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Pope Leo, Pope Francis, they don't want you to have guns. Oh,

503
00:35:55,039 --> 00:36:00,519
but the Vatican has VIGILIAI its own securities service, its

504
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,559
own secret service, and they're armed. Interesting, by the way,

505
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Leo just said, have open borders. Oh so the guy

506
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,159
who lives in a palace in a city state with

507
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,280
his own secret service says that we shouldn't have self

508
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,679
defense and we should have open borders. Trying to I'm

509
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,360
trying to make sense of the ethics of the Vatican here.

510
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,599
Oh you didn't see that. I mean he says this

511
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,840
like every day, So this is nothing new. What why

512
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
why should we have open borders because you're a it's

513
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:48,239
a missionary thing, a missionary thing, a missionary thing. What. Okay,

514
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,079
when I see uh, fentanyl tense cities in the Vatican,

515
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,360
then I will believe that Leo and Francis and the

516
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,199
goblins in Rome actually care about missionary work. Yeah right,

517
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,239
you should have open border because the missionary work. Imagine

518
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,199
believing this. Yeah, well, I mean I know that there's

519
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,039
the Swiss Guard, but I don't think this. I mean

520
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:16,840
maybe they have guns that are hidden or something, but

521
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,119
I don't think they have I mean there's actual secret

522
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,239
service that actually have guns.

523
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:36,639
Speaker 6: Right, the Vigilia.

524
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, see these guys here that you don't Oh, look

525
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,280
at that there. Oh yeah, so here's this guy. Look

526
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,679
at this guy's just stacked to the to the brim

527
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:59,360
with secret Service one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

528
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,719
thirty thirteen is just right there. I guarantee they're all armed.

529
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,960
But you shouldn't have guns. I mean, just like next

530
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,440
level hypocrisy. Dude. It's like, what, by the way, if

531
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,599
you want to support the stream, you can do so

532
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,239
through superjaz. Super chat has done through stream labs. It

533
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,320
is pinned in the comments and in the show description.

534
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,360
Fourteen men in black they're called the vigilia I that's

535
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,360
the Pope's secret service. But you should have open borders

536
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,239
and you shouldn't have guns, according to the guy with

537
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,480
a palace with fourteen secret Service guys walking around him. Okay,

538
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:48,960
soever za viz a mir uh get the assistants great,

539
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,159
So I love the admissions honesty here. When he was

540
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:57,119
taken into the Vatican, the first thing he did was

541
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,559
look for places that he could bug the Holy See

542
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,400
this is two seventeen. Like the first thing right here,

543
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,159
first thing I did? Where can I bug the Vatican? Now,

544
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,159
you guys recall this recently happened at the White House

545
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,199
when they brought the Israeli dudes. And oh turns out

546
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,880
I think was it General Flynn or Roger Stone. Somebody

547
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,719
talked about this the other day on Lord Baltimore. They

548
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,360
were like, yeah, after the Israelis left, we found bugs

549
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,559
in the White House. Shocker. I mean, it says it

550
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,159
right here right. Of course they're gonna bug the Holy

551
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,719
See what are you talking about? So this is during

552
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,239
gold in my Ears visit to the Vatican and the

553
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:59,239
massade with her wanting to establish a relationship with Okay,

554
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,239
so point I wanted to get to and all this

555
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,480
was when John Paul the Second comes to power. Turns

556
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,639
out he is very closely allied with and very close

557
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:19,079
friends with the Reagan era neo con Cia. And that

558
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:30,920
guy is William Casey. William Casey, the tradcat Who what

559
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,039
do you know? Fordham University? Anybody in the Orthodox world

560
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:39,360
have any any, any, any clue, any idea of why

561
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:46,360
Fordham might be relevant here? Oh, it's classic Jesuit Cia University. Now,

562
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:52,760
John Paul the Second meets with William Casey all throughout

563
00:40:53,239 --> 00:41:00,679
his pontificate. In fact, Carol Votia had reached out to

564
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,960
reestablish the close ties between the CIA the Vatican. In

565
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,920
nineteen eighty one, William Casey, CIA Director, was amongst the

566
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,159
first people Jump Paul the second received in a private

567
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:22,320
audience after being elected. Casey knelt before the charismatic Polish

568
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,760
Pope and kissed the fisherman's ring and everywhere and every gesture.

569
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,639
The CIA director was a humble supplicant. Casey and the

570
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,719
Pope with us feed on each other basically what it says,

571
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,880
and then it goes on to say from the bansboard

572
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,079
of the CIA. The Vatican was a perfect Cold War

573
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:48,360
tool during this time. Am I read you to this?

574
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:58,400
Listen to this. Every Friday evening, the CIA station chief

575
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,880
in Rome was brought to the Apostolic Palace to give

576
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:07,199
to Jump all the second the latest secrets obtained from

577
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:11,280
the satellite surveillance and the electronic eavesdropping by the CAA

578
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,880
field agents. No other foreign leader had access to the

579
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:23,800
Pope like this every week. Papal diplomacy, which is the

580
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,840
political core of the highly centralized Vatican bureaucracy, had more

581
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,000
than at any time in its five hundred years, become

582
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:37,840
deeply involved in international events. As the world leader of

583
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,880
this involvement nearly calls the pope his life when he

584
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,239
was almost assassinated in nineteen eighty one by ali Aga.

585
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,719
And there's some really crazy wild stuff about ali Aga

586
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,639
and his connection to the Turkish Gray Wolves, which is

587
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:54,239
where the Turkish intelligence operatives that many of them were

588
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,199
recruited out of the Wolves, which were organized crime. And

589
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,679
he talks about Aliyadka being in the Gray Wolves on

590
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,880
page two, or he talks about Aliyaka in these connections

591
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,440
on two twenty four. I should say no, he mentioned

592
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,960
the Gray Wolves. Actually, Acca had been a member of

593
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
a terrorist organized crime in a group based in Turkey

594
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,840
called the Gray Wolves. This was the guy that attempted

595
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,280
to assassinate Jump on a second. If you don't know anyway,

596
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,159
that bolstered the idea of the Cold War, because of

597
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:29,000
course the CIA said Soviets are trying to it's the Soviets,

598
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,719
They're the ones that did it well. The next chapter

599
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:41,719
is about the attempts to normalize relationships between the Massad

600
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,800
in Rome in the wake of Gold in My Ears

601
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,280
unsuccessful attempts to establish diplomatic size the Vatican. Zavi Zamir

602
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,639
established a permanent Massad presence in Rome and tried to

603
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,679
penetrate the Vatican, working out of a building close to

604
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,119
the Israeli embassy. The Katsa tried to FA and failed

605
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,840
to recruit priest informants. Most of what he learned was

606
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,679
a gossip overheard at bars and restaurants frequented by the

607
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,039
Vatican staff. He achieved little more than enviously watching the

608
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:16,599
CIA chief head into Rome every week and his Friday

609
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:22,400
night briefings of the Pope. Oh, however, that doesn't that

610
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:28,079
it doesn't remain this way. This chapter continues to stress

611
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,199
how close John Paul the Second was to the CIA

612
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,639
on a regular basis. This is mentioned throughout this chapter.

613
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,480
I'm not going to keep repeating it. You get the idea,

614
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:38,800
hopefully if you want to check it at page th

615
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:53,119
thirty four. But the most interesting thing was that eventually, oh,

616
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:58,280
I'll just read this after this. By nineteen ninety three,

617
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:04,719
Nahem Admoni was no longer massage chief. His successor, Shibatai Chavitt,

618
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,519
continued the delicate process of trying to bring the massage

619
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,119
closer to the Vatican. Part of what part of that

620
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:16,480
maneuvering was to show that the Pope that both Israel

621
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,599
and the PLO. This is when they were still battling

622
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,880
with the PILO. I had, it long last, a genuine

623
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,320
interest in reaching some settlement, and they recognized a common

624
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
threat of Islamic fundamentalism. Jump all the second board the

625
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,159
physical scars of that through the Aliadka event. However, Massade

626
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:37,639
had been busy on a continent where the Vatican pinned

627
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:41,039
so many of its hopes for the future Africa. From there,

628
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:46,679
the Holy See one day expected to emerge a future

629
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,880
black pope. So maybe, uh, who's that black dude that

630
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,599
they all thought was triad, Who's like, actually just a

631
00:45:54,679 --> 00:46:01,719
vatiganto liberal. Who's the black forget his name? It was

632
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920
there that Massade had already shown itself in the past

633
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Master of the Black Guard. Are playing off one intelligence

634
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,960
agent against another two securities O position. Now, that's not

635
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,840
actually what I was looking for. There's a specific section

636
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:19,440
where eventually it does mention the Vatican eventually does recognize Israel.

637
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:46,079
I think, don't think here it is oh wait here

638
00:46:46,119 --> 00:47:00,639
we go. Oh okay, yeah. So if you remember John Paul,

639
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:08,199
the seconds BFF was Jersey Klueger, right, which led what's

640
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:13,440
that woman's name forget about. There's a book. I have

641
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:27,239
the book. This is it Hidden Pope Darcy O'Brien, The

642
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,039
untold story of the lifelong friendship that has changed the

643
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,639
relationship between Catholics and Jews. And this is all about

644
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:36,719
how no pope like John Paul the Second had ever

645
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,440
done what he had done to rehab all this right

646
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:53,840
relationship between the Vatican and the Jews. The Massad told

647
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,599
John Paul the Second that the plot to kill him

648
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,239
ali Agka actually originated in Iran. So Massades telling chop

649
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,920
All the second that it's the Iranians that tried to

650
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,760
assassinate you, and they use ali Aga which doesn't make

651
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,960
any sense. I mean, he's in Turkey and he's I mean, anyway,

652
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:21,920
the knowledge would color John Paul's attitude towards Islam and Israel.

653
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,800
I'm not sure what I mean. I guess that means

654
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,400
he's pro Israel. At this point, this gets into like

655
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,119
John Paul trying to navigate between Israel and the PLO

656
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,000
and Air Fat and all this stuff. Anyway, I think

657
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:44,639
what I'm looking for is here. So the newspaper reports

658
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:51,599
showed this is after the PLO had been involved in

659
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:56,840
a terror event April twelfth, nineteen eighty four, and I

660
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,000
think Luigi Pugi, I think he's the Vatican ambassador or whatever.

661
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,199
And then they invite the new head of the Massade

662
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:13,960
in the nineteen eighties to the Vatican. That's it, and

663
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:23,599
it says on April thirteen, nineteen eighty six, As a

664
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,440
result of all of this, John Paul the Second did

665
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,840
something that no pontiff had ever done. Can you guess

666
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:49,199
what he did? He went to pray in the synagogue.

667
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,280
He entered the Synagogue of Rome and was embraced by

668
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,880
the chief rabbi, each dressed in their regalia. The two

669
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,800
men walked side by side to the platform together where

670
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:14,440
the Torah was read. However, although this was a historic moment,

671
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,199
it still did not achieve what Israel wanted, which was

672
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,440
papal diplomatic recognition That would come in nineteen ninety three, when,

673
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:29,679
despite continuing objections from Vatican hardliners, diplomatic ties with the

674
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:40,519
Masade were established. There we go. Now, where's any of

675
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:47,599
the tradcats on this? What amazing tradcat hypocrisy to ignore

676
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,719
all of this mainline history. As every day they shout

677
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,480
juju ju juju incessantly when their own Vatican recognized Israel.

678
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,320
I think it's a saying recognize Israel in nineteen ninety three.

679
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,519
We'll fact check that. Let's go fact check. I mean,

680
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,800
this is what it sounds like Thomas is saying here,

681
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,519
or maybe it just means established diplomatic relations.

682
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 4: Let's see.

683
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,039
Speaker 1: Yes, the Holy See officially recognized the state of Israel

684
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:36,800
in nineteen ninety three. So that occurred due to Masaud

685
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:43,360
arranging Golden Myyar's visit and so forth, and leaking the

686
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,280
info that Iran planned the assassination of Dompol the Second

687
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,440
by aliadka Now who knows of.

688
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:59,119
Speaker 7: Being that's true. But the main point is that the

689
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:02,239
purpose of it work. The purpose of all that was

690
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,840
to get John Paul the Second to go to the

691
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:09,719
synagogue in Rome to show that he thought they worship

692
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,000
the same God. I don't know what the purpose of it.

693
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a big pr stunt, like the

694
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:27,800
CIA getting John Paul the Second to go and uh,

695
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,440
it's in the John Taylor book. John Paul the Second

696
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:33,199
had this famous photo that helped end the Cold War.

697
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,119
In fact, Brian Holdsworth even made a video like talking

698
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:40,280
about how awesome it was, and it's like, did you, dummy,

699
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,440
John Paul? The second is not ending the Cold War

700
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,639
and defeating the Communists through a through a awesome stage

701
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:47,280
photo op. He's doing it at the best of the

702
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CIAU goubas goobus. That's goofer and goophus together. It's my

703
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:57,159
new term. It's a goubas. Brian Holdsworth is a goubas.

704
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:05,239
It's a goofy goober who's all so a guphas at goubas.

705
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:10,000
How do we prove the Capitians taught hypostatic properties the

706
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,800
theological orations and then you need to read also not

707
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,320
just the five famous theological orations, but it's I think

708
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,280
it's like it's oration like twenty three all the way

709
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,679
up to like twenty eight of Greg renounci answers. Those

710
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:24,480
are great, those are some of the easiest ways to

711
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,880
show it. But also I mean, uh, doctor bo Branson's talks,

712
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,440
because he's going to go through the whole idea of

713
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,880
the father as the arka cause found, et cetera.

714
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: What was a looking about?

715
00:53:40,599 --> 00:54:00,559
Speaker 1: Oh? John Paul second Cold War photo. Now I've forgotten

716
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:08,519
which photo it is. Is it the photo with the

717
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:21,559
black Madonna? I don't have the John Taylor book here

718
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,519
with me. But there's there's some famous photo of John

719
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:31,199
Paul the Second that has to do with Maybe we

720
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:34,400
should just look up Brian Holdsworth video because he talks

721
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:44,960
about it. He might not mention the actual photo though,

722
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,639
I don't know, does anybody remember the actual photo. We

723
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:54,440
talked about it when I when I covered the John

724
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,639
Taylor book. I always like to source everything. How about

725
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:01,360
if I just tell you what book talks about and

726
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,199
you can go read the book. It's John Taylor's book

727
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:17,320
KGB in the Vatican Spies in the Vatican. This is it,

728
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:23,840
John Callon, So it has a whole chapter on and

729
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,360
he's pro like he's writing from the vantage point of

730
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,559
the CIA. He's a CIA Roman Catholic saying, oh yeah,

731
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,480
of course, John Paul the Second did what we wanted.

732
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:32,639
We helped you know, he helped us win the Cold War.

733
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:40,199
He's awesome. And by the way, have you noticed that's

734
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,719
another reason why John Paul the Second is John Paul

735
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,280
the Great? Why is he a saint? Well, it doesn't

736
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,800
actually have anything to do with his holiness. It's actually

737
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,719
a question of that he served his role in the

738
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,440
Cold War very well, and he was rewarded with being

739
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,440
the great T. L. Chiquoity five dollars. Thank you for

740
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,079
all this great info as well as for calling out

741
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,159
trads and the cafeteria Catholics for what they being Catholic,

742
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,920
for actually being cafeteria Catholics. Yeah, exactly. Track Catholicism is

743
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,519
actually just cafeteria Catholicism. Now they think they're a lot

744
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,960
more serious and devoted and committed, but they're no different

745
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,639
than the normal Novasorto cafeteria Catholics who pick and choose

746
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:24,960
what they want. Because the Romancalolic whole system is about

747
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,599
picking and choosing what you want, you're forced to pick

748
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:30,119
and choose. Slinky two dollars. Thank you for everything to do, Jay,

749
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:35,000
Thank you Ghost five bucks. Jay. I went to order

750
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,840
O church for the first time. It was my first

751
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,760
time in a church. Oh wow, that's great, amazing. I

752
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,639
had a great experience. Good. I wanted to thank you

753
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:44,400
for pushing me that way. Man, that's great to hear.

754
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,159
That's actually probably better off. You're actually in a better

755
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,679
position if you're just fresh, because then you don't come

756
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,639
with all this like Protestant or Roman Catholic baggage. It's

757
00:56:55,679 --> 00:57:01,719
just it'll be easier for you. Probably Austin Albert's finders,

758
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,239
as if there wasn't enough reason to reject the papacy

759
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,559
based on historical theological positions. Now the corruption runs deep. Yeah,

760
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:11,800
that's the point here is it's not just a question

761
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,440
of theology nerds stuff. That's what I thought when I

762
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,039
was a naive young man. No, it turns out when

763
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:23,320
you see Leo the fourteenth urging European institutions to promote

764
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,119
a healthy secularism, what the heck does that even mean?

765
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:30,920
Just nonsense? There's no such thing as healthy secularism. What now?

766
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

767
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: Guess what the tradcats said. When I posted this, where

768
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,920
is that article? I couldn't even find it. It doesn't

769
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,880
even exist, kid you not. It doesn't exist, dude? What

770
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,400
I found it within five seconds?

771
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,079
Speaker 4: Right?

772
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,039
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I mean, just lie, just

773
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:56,239
straight up lie. It's the first freaking link that comes up.

774
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,920
What are you talking about? I couldn't find that order,

775
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:02,840
it's the first one that comes up. What are you

776
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,320
talking about? By the way, I like to sometimes bait

777
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,639
the Roman Catholics because what I'll do is it's funny

778
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:12,760
to do this. You can put up like a screenshot

779
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,840
and then they'll act like it doesn't exist or you

780
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,320
can't find it, so that you can then bait them

781
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,719
into saying it's not real, and then you go get

782
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,400
the real article, which just shows like, dude, there's infinity cope.

783
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,320
It's infinity cop. So sometimes you can bait them into

784
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,039
this by doing little tricks like this, and they'll always

785
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:36,679
fall for it. There's not a real article. I can't

786
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,360
follow it, dude, the first one that comes up, you

787
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,039
didn't even try to find it. The same thing happened

788
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:47,719
with another post. I put up this guy, and I

789
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,679
kid you not. The Roman Catholics said, oh, you're lying.

790
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:55,119
He's actually a Latin Mass trad Catholic. What what are

791
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,840
you talking about? They said, I made this up. It's

792
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,119
in your freaking main line dude. Life site is main

793
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,400
line Roman Catholic shit that is not made up. It's

794
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:11,679
mainline stuff. They said, oh, he's not actually a lib No,

795
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:17,400
he's actually a Latin Mass proponent, Archbishop Bermard Longley, the

796
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,239
controversial SOHO LGBT Mass guy. He's the one that did

797
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,599
the LGBT Mass. And they're saying he's a trad cat Latin.

798
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:33,360
They're just liars. Dude, You guys are liars, and now

799
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,840
I like that everybody sees that you lie, just outright lies.

800
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:41,880
He's a Latin mass trad cat. He's not even pro gay.

801
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:52,199
Speaker 2: What are you talking about.

802
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: Also reminder, although we are not getting into this today

803
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,800
because I did a whole life stream on this a

804
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,440
couple of weeks ago, I want to remind you, which

805
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,360
is absolutely directly tied into what we talked about for

806
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,599
the last three hours today. All of what we said

807
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,920
is exactly why the Vatican Two documents teach Fabian socialism.

808
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,800
Well thought they were fun nicole war against the Communis.

809
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,440
The CIA is not a conservative, right wing organization. The

810
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,239
CIA is a Fabian socialist organization created by and headed

811
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,239
up by originally Fabian socialists. Though oss hesber Fabian socialists

812
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:40,559
openly they were against n KVD Sovietism. They're not capitalists

813
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:51,039
who were against communism. They're Fabians who are opposed to Sovietism.

814
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:55,679
That's why Gaudium at Spez teaches Marxism socialism. And if

815
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,760
you don't believe me, we literally go through in forty

816
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:04,280
minutes and I didn't even know there's other sections. I

817
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,800
didn't even know about In fact, gody Mezpez even says

818
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:11,840
open borders migration. I didn't even know it was in there.

819
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:14,559
Somebody in the comments pointed out to me. So I

820
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:18,719
didn't even get all of the of the proofs. Why

821
01:01:18,719 --> 01:01:23,760
would that be? Because this further demonstrates my point that

822
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:29,599
Vatican too, especially proves and shows that the Vatican is

823
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:37,760
subservient to geopolitical powers and interests CIA, Rockefellers, Jewish interests.

824
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,199
They even brag about it in their Look magazine, to

825
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,280
change the theology and the doctrine, to be a humanist,

826
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:51,679
Americanist and whatever else nonsense openly, and all these books

827
01:01:51,719 --> 01:02:01,440
show them. And there's the link you can go if

828
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,880
you want to see all the information on gody Mespez.

829
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,760
There it is. So I put this up because I

830
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,039
knew they would say it's not real. So you put

831
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:18,119
up a screenshot of Leo promoting the LGBT bishop. They'll

832
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:19,920
sit there and deny it, and then you put the

833
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,800
actual article on the show that they're dishonest. It works

834
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,639
every time. Now you got to make sure that your

835
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,639
screen shot is real, that there really is an article,

836
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:34,880
So don't fall for somebody else's trick. If there's not

837
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,480
a real article. But I also wanted to mention this

838
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:43,559
because now we understand why he would bless an ice cube.

839
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,840
He's not blessing an ice cube because we believe in

840
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,239
blessing over your object. This is a climate change event.

841
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:55,599
You gouphus, you goobus. It's not him blessing water like

842
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:59,880
the blessing of the waters in orthodoxy. He's promoting a

843
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:04,039
participating in a climate change event where Arnold Swarzenegger got

844
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:06,639
up and talked about how they lie in propaganda's in

845
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,639
this event. Oh you didn't You didn't hear that? Allow

846
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:14,320
me to play it for you. It was awesome. The

847
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:22,559
Pope invites Arnold, this ridiculous Hollywood goblin, to come explain

848
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,400
how they convinced everybody of this scam through pulling on heartstrings,

849
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,400
through using kids.

850
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:34,039
Speaker 8: And we started our environmental movement in California. When I

851
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:38,800
became governor, people went up behind us a cidema said,

852
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:44,159
why is that you're talking about kind of change?

853
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,679
Speaker 1: This is the event with the ice cub idiot.

854
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:51,559
Speaker 8: People said, yeah, this is kind of dangerous. Oh, you

855
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:54,039
need more than fifty percent right to get anything done.

856
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,440
So we talked in about the rising sea level.

857
01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Nothing. The needle didn't move.

858
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 8: We talked about the glaciers melting, the ice is melting,

859
01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:11,760
the polar bears in danger. No matter what we said,

860
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:17,519
it didn't move the needle. Nothing happened. But then the

861
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:25,679
American Lung Association sent us a television commercial, little commercial

862
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:35,599
that showed a kit, a little tiny kit trying to

863
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:41,280
inhale almost was impossible. And then this child faded. We

864
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,800
don't know what happened. Did it die, did it pass

865
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:50,440
out or whatever. That little spot we put right away

866
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,760
on television, and all of a sudden everyone got interested,

867
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,880
and we had sixty two percent of the people behind us.

868
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: In other words, we use the kid. Retards everyone needs

869
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,159
to retired, and we use the kid. This was the

870
01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:11,719
way I used to see you. The people are retired,

871
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:14,679
we use a kid, don't use the logic.

872
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,239
Speaker 2: Of the facts.

873
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: So all of these idiot tradcats filling up the comments

874
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:26,760
because one of my posts on this actually went kind

875
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,519
of viral, right, So the one that I said, uh

876
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:33,679
time for orthodoxy got like one hundred and fifty thousand

877
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,000
views or more, I mean mini viral, not super viral,

878
01:05:37,679 --> 01:05:41,199
and so reading all the people objecting to it It's

879
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:45,119
like they don't even realize that climate change is a scam.

880
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:47,800
They actually think that the Pope is trying to save

881
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,840
the world from climate change and Arnold is telling the

882
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,920
truth right helping us here. So I had to remind them,

883
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,880
and not just them, also people in our sphere that

884
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,920
climate change is a pr rebranding of global warming. And

885
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,760
prior to that, it was the Coming Ice Age, and

886
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,559
part of that it was acid rain and the hold

887
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,000
the ozone, all this stuff over the decades. All these

888
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,840
are Malthusian scams, and they're invented by the Club of

889
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,880
Rome in their think tank document called First Global Revolution.

890
01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:20,239
This is from that book, The Common Enemy of Humanity

891
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,440
is Man. The environmental movement is a Malthusian movement. Now

892
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:28,239
maybe originally there was some sincere people, but now it's

893
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,039
that in search of our new enemity nine as we

894
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:34,000
came up with the idea that pollution threat of little warming, etc.

895
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:40,239
To the bill. There you go. What's the Club of Rome?

896
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:40,599
Speaker 2: Were you.

897
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: Now to also make this applicable to orthodox Unfortunately, the

898
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:07,039
EP is as bad as Rome in many ways. I

899
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,159
am not going to repeat this two plus hour stream

900
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:13,960
that I did seven years ago. You can go watch

901
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:19,760
this stream right here critiquing the EP in his he

902
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,679
literally wrote a book with the Clintons on the Green agenda.

903
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,760
So like that's he's identically the same. Okay, there's this

904
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:38,079
one it's called the Spooky Subversion of Orthodoxy. And there's

905
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:56,599
another one. Oh what did I name it? Actually there's two? Uh,

906
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:01,000
here we go. Pagdriar concept double and the Ukrainian Schism

907
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:08,440
were here also like seven or eight years ago. By

908
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,519
the way, I've been vindicated all this. You understand that

909
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,920
all the stuff. When I said this seven eight, nine

910
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:19,159
years ago, everybody, even a massive amount of the Orthodox world,

911
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,199
called me every name of the book, crazy conspiracy theorists.

912
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:27,279
I was evil. I was the worst person for talking

913
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:30,840
about this. Okay, who has been vindicated? Now? Have any

914
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,359
of these priests, bishops of people? Have any of them

915
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:38,479
apologized that I was right? No? No, I mean not

916
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,159
any of these other jurisdictions. I mean people in Rokor

917
01:08:41,239 --> 01:08:45,439
have been receptive. Have any of the other ones? No? No,

918
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:50,199
Even though everything I said is correct, even though everything

919
01:08:50,199 --> 01:08:53,119
I said about Ukraine all that's correct, I'm still bad.

920
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:58,159
And this is when the OCA went after me. They

921
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:02,760
started coming after me after this, you see see that.

922
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:13,920
So there's also this one CIA's man in Constantinople. When

923
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,640
this came out in the American Conservative. All the stuff

924
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,760
that I've been saying for eight years, and then we

925
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,479
get a guy writing about I'm not knocking the guy

926
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,560
I'm saying. A guy writes about it last year in

927
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,399
the American Conservative, mainline right wing magazines. Oh you mean

928
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,159
all the stuff that I said for the last eight

929
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,840
years that made me a bad man in orthodox world

930
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,439
and all of you naive people who just believed all

931
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,079
your normy docs about how bad I was. Oh, and

932
01:09:40,119 --> 01:09:43,640
then the coof happens and I oppose all that. Oh

933
01:09:44,079 --> 01:09:47,439
he's even worse. Oh he's the worst person ever. So

934
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,880
you understand all of the reasons why people in the

935
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,840
OCA and these people like, why I'm bad, it's this stuff.

936
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:55,920
It's because I talk about this, and I was writing

937
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,880
about Stabby's and coof and that was a whole another

938
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,760
series of years of why I was bad. And they

939
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,119
just lied. They lied and said I didn't have a church,

940
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:07,279
They lied and said I don't go to church, that

941
01:10:07,359 --> 01:10:09,720
I just made all this up, don't They just lie?

942
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:13,199
And they're no different than trad cats. I would say

943
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:16,359
about half of the Orthodox world is good and about

944
01:10:16,359 --> 01:10:20,079
half of them are mentally insane, unstable and crazy and evil.

945
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,479
So it's half an hour wheat and chaff. Now none

946
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,079
of them. But here's the weird part. Nobody will just say, yeah,

947
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:33,039
you were actually correct. They just double down and still

948
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:36,319
say that I'm evil even though I was right about everything.

949
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,199
And the bad news is that the reason for that

950
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,920
is that a lot of the stuff that we've talked

951
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,399
about today. Obviously the Orthodox Church is not immune to this.

952
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,119
The EP and many people in go ARC, many of

953
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:58,800
the priests, many of those people, they are all so compromised.

954
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:04,760
I mean, you've got like Orthodox bishops like Bishop Glitzen

955
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,000
who openly say Origin is a saint, which is totally heterodox,

956
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:12,319
Like what what are you talking about? And then his

957
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,199
priests underneath him attack me. There was one doing it yesterday,

958
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,159
and it's like, due, how are you attacking me when

959
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:23,319
your bishop says Origin is a saint? Like, I think

960
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:26,520
you've got bigger problems than me. No, but you see,

961
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,520
I'm the problem because I'm not an a humanist. I

962
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,760
don't do what these random meess people tell me. To

963
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:40,640
do anyway tro orthodox. What corrupts more deeply elite manipulation

964
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:45,159
by institutional capture you're saying, or individual choice and rejecting

965
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:50,840
the truth. I think both things happen, but individual choice

966
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:57,079
happens at a smaller level, right. Institutional corruption happens because

967
01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:04,159
power elites, power players work to compromise powerful, influential people.

968
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:19,520
So if you are no i'm i'm, here is your

969
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:25,279
o c A dieside himself. This is the guy who

970
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:28,880
sends priests to come after me attacks. He won't do

971
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,079
it himself. He just sends other priests and people to

972
01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:33,560
attack me. He's done it for years.

973
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 9: Here's him and lunch was from origin of Alexandria, the great,

974
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:45,000
very great patristic writer. He was not appreciated him. Three

975
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:47,399
hundred years later they condemned him as a heretic after

976
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,119
he had died in the peace of the church three

977
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:56,600
hundred years which was wrong. But he was still a saint.

978
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: So there you go. So your OCA bishops tell you

979
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,399
that origins of saint a man who was a universalist,

980
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:07,720
anti trinitarian who castrated himself. I've also been told by

981
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:11,079
reliable people that your bishop Glitzen here is a fan

982
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:13,000
of the Democratic Socialist of America. So you have a

983
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,680
socialist Democratic Socialist bishop, but I'm a bad guy. So

984
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:24,680
you see how this works. And in all the minions

985
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,880
of these people who just bark and chirp and repeat,

986
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,000
how dare you speak of a bishop this way? How

987
01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:35,479
dare you? It doesn't matter what his office is, if

988
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:42,600
he's saying like outright crazy stuff, doesn't matter. No, you

989
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,279
didn't misspeak. I've met him and I've had lunch with him,

990
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:49,000
I've talked to him extensively. It's not, oh, it's accident.

991
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:53,840
They just slipped up. No, he's totally a lib. But

992
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,640
I mean, why are you guys surprised? Like this is

993
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,640
what This is the way that church is or control

994
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:05,880
is that compromise. People are put into positions like that

995
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,760
on purpose. It's it's this is not rocket science, dudes,

996
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:20,920
It's like simple stuff. Yeah, so here here it comes.

997
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:22,880
And the other The other thing that's weird about this

998
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,920
kind of stuff is like when you if you talk

999
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,279
about this, the immediate reaction is that people will talk

1000
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:35,119
about how bad you are. No, you're evil, You're evil

1001
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:39,319
for talking about it. Remember roots of orthodoxy. I went

1002
01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:42,920
in the comments and pointed out that the guy is

1003
01:14:43,119 --> 01:14:46,239
a fraud like he openly lied, he admitted he lied.

1004
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:49,279
He's not a Catechuman. He told all the priests to

1005
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:51,239
come on a channel to be that he's a catechumy

1006
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,520
he's not. He's Rumman calvioc As he was putting out

1007
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,560
all this Orthodox material on a channel that says it's

1008
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:04,239
Eastern Orthodox. He's also producing all of Voice of Reasons

1009
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:11,760
anti Orthodox content. Still claims it's an Orthodox channel as

1010
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,840
a Uni a Roman Catholic, and he's making all that

1011
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,720
money from his channel drifting. But all the people in

1012
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,720
the comments said, I'm bad for calling that out. That's

1013
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:24,960
how crazy this stuff is.

1014
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 10: What what're saying?

1015
01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:43,159
Speaker 1: Right? Anyway, I've never set foot in the OCA church

1016
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:46,720
since that time, except for a funeral which was not

1017
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,920
an OCA funeral as one of our parishioners passed away

1018
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,760
until we had to have it at Yeah, if you

1019
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,920
talk about this, you're bad. It's it's bad for you

1020
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,279
to bring it up. How dare you? And they just

1021
01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:03,359
they'll pull rank on you in gaslight you that's just

1022
01:16:03,399 --> 01:16:10,840
a tactic, right, Vincent five dollars? Hey, look up Brian Harpell.

1023
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,159
He's Charlie Kirk security, Okay, I have to look into that.

1024
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,680
Barrett ten dollars, I'm Orthodox, had a cumin Please bully

1025
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,720
me that I ever considered Latin papalism. Hey, look, it's

1026
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,119
not your fault. If you got duped by quote minds

1027
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,680
and tricks, you duped me. In two thousand and three,

1028
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,920
I started reading the papal apologists. I thought, hey, that's

1029
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,960
a a lot of evidence of a papacy. But you

1030
01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:42,319
have to be precise because I've noticed, especially since the

1031
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:45,000
Tim Gordon debate. You guys, remember how that was framed.

1032
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:49,520
It was is there evidence for the papacy? Well, what

1033
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,520
are you talking about? I mean, there's the Orthodox conception

1034
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,920
of the papacy. Sure, but you noticed the bait and

1035
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:00,199
switch word concept trickery there. Oh is there evidence for

1036
01:17:00,279 --> 01:17:02,840
the papacy? And if I say, well, yeah, oh see,

1037
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,720
but we got diary the papacy, the question is the

1038
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,319
Vatican One conception of the papacy? Is there evidence for

1039
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,239
that in the first thousand years? That's the real debate.

1040
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,359
But they like to voice of prison. They like to

1041
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,560
voice of sleezon. Oh like like the cookie I like

1042
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,159
to bide cookie body he he talks like TikTok of

1043
01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:32,239
oz And by the way, isn't it funny that when

1044
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,600
all of his scandal came out, what was all what

1045
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,119
was the first thing all the robic Keller said, you

1046
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:39,359
gotta forgive him, You gotta forgive him. Don't be your pharisee.

1047
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: Don't be phill right, jos.

1048
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: Dude, if if anything half like as insane as that

1049
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,840
came out about me, they would be calling for my death. Dude.

1050
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,000
They'd be like, it's justified to kill Diary. It's justified

1051
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,319
to kill him. Like it's so crazy, dude. They're like

1052
01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:54,640
the biggest hippocrites out man.

1053
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: Diars should be hung unstrung, he should be drawn and quartered.

1054
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: But if it's Voice of Season, oh, you gotta forgive him, dude.

1055
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:12,960
He publicly apologized, bro. Voice of Diddy. By the way,

1056
01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:16,680
you notice he would never debate me. I asked multiple times,

1057
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:28,960
multiple people, sent multiple dms. Never got anything back, not

1058
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:33,279
even in fact. One guy that was trying to mediate

1059
01:18:33,359 --> 01:18:36,800
between me and Voice of Reason, Right, I forget who

1060
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,159
he was. Some dude on Twitter. It's like, oh yeah,

1061
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,119
I know v or He's like, do you want me

1062
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:41,319
to try to set up a bit between you and

1063
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:43,439
vo or like yeah, absolutely, so he's like, okay, I'm

1064
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,680
a DM, and then out of nowhere it goes quiet.

1065
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,079
The guy never replies. In fact, I even say, hey,

1066
01:18:49,079 --> 01:18:54,199
what's up? Where's that debate? Ghosted me? Uh so? And

1067
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,520
by the way, that was right before all the stuff

1068
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:01,159
came out. So he either he ghost to me because

1069
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:03,399
all that crap came out, or he goes to me

1070
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,479
because Voice of Reason was like, no, I'll never debate.

1071
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 3: That, dude.

1072
01:19:07,399 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, did you notice, I mean, just how

1073
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,520
arrogant and just ridiculous he was in the UBI debate, right,

1074
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,039
and and UBI makes like one joke and the Roman

1075
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:20,159
look over me like, oh, it's the end of the world.

1076
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,640
UBI makes one sasas comment to Voice of Reason, and oh,

1077
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,359
my gosh, he's so evil. Look at the arrogance of

1078
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,159
UBI Petres.

1079
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:30,399
Speaker 3: Oh he can't debate.

1080
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. I mean, they're they're the biggest cry bullies.

1081
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:45,279
That's what it is. Bobby C five dollars. He was

1082
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:49,520
at my parish to raise a new priest. Ask him

1083
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,680
my origin is a Saint Barrett? Excuse me, no one

1084
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:57,920
became a member. What's up, dude, Voice of Mohammed.

1085
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 11: That's funny.

1086
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody exemplifies the cry out as they strike you

1087
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:22,079
worse than the Roman Catholics, They're worse than the Middle

1088
01:20:22,079 --> 01:20:25,960
Eastern people. JB. Pelt a two dollars. Voice of Reason

1089
01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:35,520
is a tool. I mean I didn't think UBI did.

1090
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,000
UBI didn't do bad in that debate. I mean I

1091
01:20:39,039 --> 01:20:42,039
think every debate you look back and you think I

1092
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:46,199
could have done better. But if the debate was about

1093
01:20:48,399 --> 01:20:50,159
how is that debate frame of a tournament? It was

1094
01:20:50,199 --> 01:20:53,319
like something like is the Catholic Church is the is

1095
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:57,800
the Orthodox Church the catholc Church? Something like that, Like

1096
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,239
for UBI to say, yeah, but what about in your position?

1097
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:06,479
And then him just be like this't abate? Like what

1098
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,720
I mean? Did you not notice when Voice of Reason

1099
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:19,520
was debating Luigi that he would hit mute and he

1100
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,159
had headphones and like he was talking to somebody who

1101
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,680
was calling him. You can see him like either he's

1102
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,560
typing to somebody or he's talking to Ibarra or Lofton.

1103
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,119
That's how. But the people are they're pathetic, due they're pitiful, man,

1104
01:21:36,319 --> 01:21:39,960
you can you can see it. It's he goes silent,

1105
01:21:40,079 --> 01:21:47,640
but he's like, who are you talking to dude, it's

1106
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,319
not your time to talk. Well, he's getting answers from

1107
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:55,840
his Goblin crew obviously. And by the way, I didn't

1108
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,279
even realize when I was debating Liquid Zulu he was

1109
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:00,680
doing the same thing until somebody pointed out the other day.

1110
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,159
I was like, I'll be damned, he is doing that.

1111
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:25,560
I'm debating Google right, by the way, so you yourself. The

1112
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:31,000
libertarian comments underneath this debate, they're a riot, dude, Like,

1113
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:34,279
they don't know anything. They don't know what metaphysics is.

1114
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,279
They have no idea what epistemology. They don't know what

1115
01:22:36,319 --> 01:22:39,119
it means to justify a position. Like one guy was like,

1116
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,560
Liquid Zulu justified his position. It's called an opening statement.

1117
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,920
They think just saying your position is justifying the position.

1118
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,359
It's crazy, dude, they don't know anything. One guy was like,

1119
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:58,439
libertarianism is not metaphysical. Has nothing to do with metaphysics, dude.

1120
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,039
The nap is an a and one guy said language

1121
01:23:02,119 --> 01:23:06,399
is an ought, Like well, these are just just insanely

1122
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,319
stupid people. Man, What the heck, why are you even

1123
01:23:08,319 --> 01:23:13,359
trying to debate? Man? But like, uh, rewatching a little

1124
01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:15,720
bit of this, I was like, oh, he's just googling stuff.

1125
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:24,199
He's just like livetime Google debate. It's crazy. And then

1126
01:23:24,279 --> 01:23:26,720
and all of his crew is like, oh, you got owned, dude,

1127
01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:33,239
you got owned, dude. Heh butt blasted you, dude, you

1128
01:23:33,359 --> 01:23:37,079
got owned, dude, got destroyable. Dude is sitting there sipping

1129
01:23:37,119 --> 01:23:41,000
his four loco, burping half of the stream, freaking burping,

1130
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,840
being quiet, saying I don't have to answer that. Who

1131
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,399
what idiot would think that drinking four locos and burping

1132
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:53,399
half of the stream is owning and winning a debate.

1133
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,479
So I just left well raged, he raged. Quit. It's

1134
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,359
like when them cocash was freaking eating ramen noodles in

1135
01:24:02,399 --> 01:24:06,720
our debate. I'm like, are you eating first of all

1136
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,960
ramen noodles, that's your meal? What the hell's wrong with you? Dude?

1137
01:24:11,359 --> 01:24:18,520
Remember that this is the first debate, first public debate. Look,

1138
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,000
he's freaking eating ramen noodles. Why are you eating ramen

1139
01:24:22,039 --> 01:24:32,079
noodles in a debate? You idiot? Am I not? I've

1140
01:24:32,079 --> 01:24:34,880
been reading all the super chats from YouTube. Relaxed it.

1141
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,880
I'm anna read your super jet ignatio five dollars. There's

1142
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:43,199
a Chilean Orthodox priest. He's an apologist. He speaks Spanish.

1143
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:45,600
The Catholic response to his videos with the same stuff.

1144
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:51,239
He's mean, he's rude. They're just being that's all they have, dude. Uh,

1145
01:24:53,279 --> 01:24:54,960
I mean the Roman Catholics are at that point like

1146
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,920
there's no answers to any of the position. They don't

1147
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,239
even care anymore. That's what's wild. It's like they don't

1148
01:24:59,239 --> 01:25:02,159
care about ants sharing any of the arguments anymore. They

1149
01:25:02,199 --> 01:25:03,600
just they basically just quit.

1150
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 12: Now.

1151
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,399
Speaker 1: All they do is just say that I'm bad. I mean,

1152
01:25:06,399 --> 01:25:08,840
that's it. Oh, he's a piece shit, that's it. That's

1153
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,479
all they do. Literally, like if my name comes up,

1154
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439
they just say he's bad and then they move on.

1155
01:25:16,359 --> 01:25:19,880
They don't even care about when I'm signing thumb all

1156
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:22,760
they put aside all the pretenses, which is actually good

1157
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:28,319
because this is a step towards total victory, because if

1158
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:31,279
they still thought that they had some arguments, they would

1159
01:25:31,279 --> 01:25:34,439
be giving them. Now they're just like, nah, just screw

1160
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,079
him now, we just hate him. He just sucks. What

1161
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:41,520
about the arguments? He sucks? Yeah, but what about it

1162
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:42,239
doesn't matter.

1163
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 11: He sucks.

1164
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: He's bad. They just that's they don't care anymore, which

1165
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,159
is a good sign. Because that means that they're at

1166
01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:51,880
the point where they're giving they're giving up on actually

1167
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,119
addressing or arguing any of the points because it's it's

1168
01:25:55,159 --> 01:26:01,359
not working to use the old tried and true tricks. Yes,

1169
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:05,920
have debated Trent Horn, Oh, it's not infallible. People are realizing,

1170
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:08,560
like you just pull the no infallible card whenever it

1171
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,319
doesn't work for you, and then it's infallible when you

1172
01:26:11,359 --> 01:26:14,880
want it. People are figuring this out that you're the

1173
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:21,399
same as Protestants. You just have more boring books than Protestants.

1174
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,439
Instead of the Bible and picking and choosing which ones

1175
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,760
worked for me at what time, you got ten thousand

1176
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,680
more papal documents, which are ten thousand times more boring.

1177
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,800
So you're actually worse than a Protestant in that regard

1178
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,239
because you got to sift through tens of thousands of

1179
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:46,960
pages of papal documents. Yeah, but what about Adam koquesh

1180
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:49,880
is ramen noodle? I'm like, dude, what are you you

1181
01:26:50,039 --> 01:26:54,159
slurping ramen noodles before a debate. This was the first debate,

1182
01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:56,439
by the way, this was even pre JF.

1183
01:27:00,039 --> 01:27:00,199
Speaker 8: JB.

1184
01:27:00,279 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Pelty A ten dollars The truth of the heteronox is

1185
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:07,159
at the forefront. Now, I basically have Protestant friends straight

1186
01:27:07,159 --> 01:27:11,079
at rejecting all the first century because it's not about

1187
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:15,720
the facts. Yeah, that's actually good though, So don't be

1188
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,119
upset when you see people resorting to, you know what,

1189
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,199
I don't care about the theology, I hate you. That's

1190
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,640
actually that means we're making progress. I'm being serious because

1191
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:31,239
they're just emotionally reacting, and it's like the last resort

1192
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,640
to where they've given up on intellectual responses. I mean,

1193
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,960
when was the last time you saw Matt Frad? Even

1194
01:27:40,039 --> 01:27:45,000
Trent i'n't kept up with these people, Brian Holdsworth, Loften,

1195
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,199
any of them actually try to give like a like

1196
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,720
look like what we did tonight. I mean, I know

1197
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,920
we were not talking mainly about theology, but I mean

1198
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,199
we spent the first hour in history and theology. When

1199
01:27:57,319 --> 01:28:00,520
was the last time any of the Roman Catholic out

1200
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:07,319
here actually put hours into detailed public refutation of positions?

1201
01:28:10,039 --> 01:28:12,319
I mean maybe some of them haven't. I just haven't

1202
01:28:12,399 --> 01:28:15,960
kept up. Let's see what Matt Frad's been doing. Are

1203
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:21,760
are we getting deep theological meat over here? Is the

1204
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:27,640
university system dead Catholicism is the new punk rock. So no,

1205
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:33,560
basically we're getting just low tier mush. The Latin Mass

1206
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,279
isn't going away, even though the papacy's actively banning it.

1207
01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:50,239
Michael Knowles dating Internet, So we got to go back

1208
01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:55,680
one month to Scott han talking about the apocalypse. Okay,

1209
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:00,960
so basically mush for the last month. Let's see what

1210
01:29:04,399 --> 01:29:08,640
Let's see what? Uh, let's see we're lofting or two dogs,

1211
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,000
so welcome back. Well, here's at least a theology debate.

1212
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,439
Is Jesus God. But by the way, did you see

1213
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,279
he brought on Jake the Muslim metaphysician, so he'll bring

1214
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:23,039
on the enemies of Christ before anybody else. Of course,

1215
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,680
let's see what's Loften talking about here? Benedict or Leo,

1216
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:39,920
Vatican drama, Ice, blessings the Pope and Arnold. I don't

1217
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,239
know if I would call this meat or anything substantial.

1218
01:29:46,079 --> 01:29:47,840
It's like a lot of it looks like a lot

1219
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,640
of low tiered like drama. And now he's having to

1220
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,880
resort to debates because nobody cares about his dumb ass

1221
01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:03,079
takes and everything. Okay, who else is left? At least

1222
01:30:03,159 --> 01:30:10,680
Trent's probably doing some kind of something refuting redeemed Zuomer

1223
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:25,079
sin sex questions, cancel culture, should we hate people? Doesn't

1224
01:30:25,119 --> 01:30:33,479
really look like anything very media or substantial Charlie Kirk

1225
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,880
Ben Shapiro. So basically they're retreating to culture war because

1226
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:43,720
they've lost the theology debates. This is what I'm assessing here. Hey,

1227
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:48,199
forget all the theology. We don't win that domain, plus

1228
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:49,760
all the money and the clicks or in the culture

1229
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,680
war stuff anyway. So that's where they're at. Who's left?

1230
01:30:53,159 --> 01:30:56,239
Who else is there? Tim? Let's see what Tim's talking about.

1231
01:30:57,239 --> 01:31:04,680
He's probably talking about Vatican drum, Welcome to Rules for Rector.

1232
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,840
You don't really get much theology over here, because of

1233
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,760
course God's glory is created, according to Tim Gordon. But

1234
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:17,479
I bet we get Vatican drama, soap opera and Rome.

1235
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,000
What do we got?

1236
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 13: Cultural war? Culture war? Culture war, culture war, cultural war, exorcism,

1237
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:32,800
drama drama, cultural war.

1238
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:39,600
Speaker 1: So they're giving up on theology. Looks like to me,

1239
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:45,880
I don't care that Wagner met a video. I don't

1240
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,520
care what am I?

1241
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 11: Oh?

1242
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: No video? I mean if you don't find all the

1243
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,560
stuff that I've talked about convincing, and you want to

1244
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,720
be a Roman Catholic. As I've told you guys like

1245
01:31:59,399 --> 01:32:03,600
I'm done due have fun with that. If you want

1246
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,239
to be a Roman Catholic and you find the idiotic

1247
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,880
Tomistic created grace position good, then I actually think we

1248
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,000
don't want you in Orthodoxy. I hope that you don't

1249
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:21,880
become Orthodox. We don't want people trying to make Orthodoxy tomas,

1250
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,720
so you should be kept out. We don't want you.

1251
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,720
Elia shared on five dollars, JA, do you have any

1252
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:33,439
specific recommendations on Lyons and Florence. Yes, the Ostromov book

1253
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:41,880
is a classic Council of Florence Ostromov. Yeah, but Wagner

1254
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:46,119
isn't a I just say go watch doctor bo Branson,

1255
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,399
because everything that I say is what I've actually read

1256
01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:55,199
extensively in the Cappadocians. And what Wagner does is quote

1257
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:58,199
mining the Cappadocians to try to prove from Catholicism. And

1258
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,640
if you actually read the Cappadotion you don't have to

1259
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,880
read very far. They teach the Essen Syner distinction, they

1260
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,840
teach hypoestic properties, they teach the fathers of the soul arcade.

1261
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,000
They don't teach the tomistic nonsense. That he does as

1262
01:33:11,039 --> 01:33:15,960
a revisionist, and again, go be with those guys, Go

1263
01:33:16,039 --> 01:33:20,479
be a Roman Catholic, go be gay, and go away.

1264
01:33:21,119 --> 01:33:24,680
And by the way, I've asked Wagner multiple times to

1265
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,880
debate since in the last say six months, at least

1266
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,079
two or three times, and he says, I can't debate.

1267
01:33:31,119 --> 01:33:33,640
I'm not debated, I'm not a debater. Make a video

1268
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,319
responding to me. I'm not gonna make videos.

1269
01:33:37,359 --> 01:33:37,399
Speaker 4: No.

1270
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 1: I've asked multiple times, let's have a debate. He's not interested.

1271
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:49,319
So I just there's no point at this point, unless

1272
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:52,119
you're just brand new to all this material, that you

1273
01:33:52,159 --> 01:34:01,600
would even consider a Roman Catholic option. Unless I don't know,

1274
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,439
I mean, I just just be gay. To just go

1275
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,079
be gay, like no one is stopping you from joining

1276
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:13,319
the Skittles church. Go do it. And I would, we would,

1277
01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:16,720
we would. We would not want people wanting to make

1278
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:24,680
Orthodoxy tomistic. I mean they want Theophanes to be creatures.

1279
01:34:25,319 --> 01:34:36,640
They think God has created attributes. It's just stupid. They

1280
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,920
they say, we're idolators when they say that God's glory

1281
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,640
is a creature. Like, it's so stupid, man, I mean,

1282
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,640
you're talking to people who by the way. The other

1283
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,039
thing is that they're not interested in our positions. I've

1284
01:34:49,039 --> 01:34:53,319
given Tim Gordon the same book recommendations for five years.

1285
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:58,800
He read zero of them. That tells me that he's

1286
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:03,279
not interested. I've given Wagner book recommendations. He has read

1287
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:06,960
exactly zero of the recommendations that I give. Why would

1288
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,920
I give attention, traction, clicks and all of that. When

1289
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,920
a person is not interested in understanding the position, it's

1290
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:23,800
just polemics and clicks. There's no point. There is no

1291
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,039
way to get into orthodox theology without doing the reading.

1292
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,680
Who's another one? So they're just retreating the culture ward.

1293
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,199
They're giving up on theology because they've lost all the

1294
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:42,920
theology theology domain. Who else is there? Matt Frad, Trent Horn,

1295
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:52,720
Gordon Brian's. He doesn't even really do apologics though, like

1296
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,479
his style of should we listen to death metal? Like

1297
01:35:58,039 --> 01:36:03,439
should Christian's listened to culture? Culture war? Culture war, Eucharist,

1298
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:15,760
culture war, ethics, culture war? Well, what I'm noticing, though,

1299
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:23,279
is culture war orthodoxy culture war. So a lot of

1300
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:28,399
this appeals in mass and it's because it's low tier.

1301
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,960
I tried to get Joel Hushmeier come debate, but you

1302
01:36:31,039 --> 01:36:33,720
understand a lot of these people will not debate, and

1303
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,359
what they say is, oh, Dyer won't debate because he

1304
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,079
won't come on a Catholic channel to debate, even though

1305
01:36:40,119 --> 01:36:43,119
for many of these people I've offered and tried to

1306
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:46,960
find some neutral thing and really they're not interested in debating,

1307
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:49,199
and so that becomes the excuse that, well, he's a

1308
01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:52,159
bad actor, so I don't have to debate him. He's mean.

1309
01:36:52,279 --> 01:36:54,960
And also he won't debate on a Catholic channel, which

1310
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,600
is not true. It's just that I've said I'll debate

1311
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,119
on a big Catholic channel, but they won't have me on.

1312
01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:03,840
Matt Fridas, I'll never have him on. So these people

1313
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:08,720
are absolutely terrified of actual, real debate and confrontation because

1314
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,039
when I debated Trent Hornet didn't go good for Trent,

1315
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:17,119
and everybody knows it because Trent made basic blunders. He

1316
01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:18,920
didn't he thinks the Trinity isn't the old test, Like

1317
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:21,760
just crazy shit. Justin did you see that go Art

1318
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:28,119
priest Elias Velis accept blessings and laying on of hands

1319
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:31,720
by a rabbi. I did see that, but like, why

1320
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,479
are we surprised they're acumenists. What do you expect? None

1321
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:40,359
that surprises me. All right, guys, we do have a

1322
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:42,520
show sponsor, and we got super chats. I gotta read,

1323
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:51,159
so let me play this ad. We do have show sponsor,

1324
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,439
and then we will read I gotta go T T

1325
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1326
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 14: I want to show off something that we're all proud of.

1327
01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:04,319
I got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted,

1328
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,680
much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just

1329
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,000
got this page up. We are just testing it out.

1330
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,199
You guys are some of the first people in the

1331
01:38:12,199 --> 01:38:14,840
world to see it. I want to say, for my part,

1332
01:38:15,079 --> 01:38:17,279
it's not philosophy one oh one. I think this is

1333
01:38:17,319 --> 01:38:21,720
as mistitling. I really think is as like philosophy unleashed.

1334
01:38:22,319 --> 01:38:24,760
Because a philosophy want on one course, they give you

1335
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,199
kind of some useless information that you can't make sense of.

1336
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,479
Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens

1337
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,279
of hours put into just the presentation of this, let

1338
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:36,720
alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that

1339
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,319
it takes to have a coherent evolution and history of

1340
01:38:40,359 --> 01:38:43,399
the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different

1341
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,119
ways to look at it over time, and how that

1342
01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:49,640
has been brought about to what we have today, which

1343
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:54,039
is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective, logic

1344
01:38:54,079 --> 01:38:58,079
and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that

1345
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,840
is irrational is made up day by as people are

1346
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,319
like I think we should bring racism back, and then

1347
01:39:03,359 --> 01:39:05,960
here's a justification, and then it gets woke afied and

1348
01:39:06,079 --> 01:39:08,079
spread out, and then all of a sudden you have

1349
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:11,279
a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you become the

1350
01:39:11,319 --> 01:39:13,760
property in action. You need to be able to stand

1351
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,800
on your own ground. It helps to have a foundation

1352
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,800
in philosophy because it's a method to fine truth when

1353
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,239
you get down to it. Philosophy is there because you

1354
01:39:22,279 --> 01:39:24,760
love truth enough to go and learn how to find it,

1355
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,600
because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that.

1356
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,199
There is the landing page. We'll link it up in

1357
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:33,840
the notes. It is a longer once, so we'll get

1358
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,359
a shorter URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a

1359
01:39:36,399 --> 01:39:38,399
link on his page. I just wanted to show it off.

1360
01:39:38,399 --> 01:39:40,039
Now you know what exists, you can go look for

1361
01:39:40,079 --> 01:39:43,960
it and see why this is not your father's philosophy, right,

1362
01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:47,720
So well done. I'm proud of everyone who helped to

1363
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,399
produce and edit the course, and of course Jay did

1364
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:54,439
a flawless job in presenting the course over those twelve weeks.

1365
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,880
And he's a juggernaut. He's another guy just like John Bush,

1366
01:39:58,039 --> 01:40:01,199
in action all the time, doing something productive, like very

1367
01:40:01,279 --> 01:40:04,039
little wasted time in his week, those one hundred and

1368
01:40:04,079 --> 01:40:07,000
sixty eight hours of being harnessed very well. I want

1369
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,279
to show off something that we're all proud of. I

1370
01:40:09,399 --> 01:40:14,399
got a browser here. This is Jay Dyers much vaunted,

1371
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,720
much sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just

1372
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,039
got this page up. We are just testing it out.

1373
01:40:21,039 --> 01:40:22,239
You guys are some of the first people in the

1374
01:40:22,279 --> 01:40:24,960
world to see it. I want to say, for my part,

1375
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:27,319
it's not philosophy one oh one. I think this is

1376
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:29,520
a mistitlank.

1377
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 15: You on something crazy real quick. Most of these zoomer

1378
01:40:32,039 --> 01:40:36,720
Jimbros are consuming macro guzzling synthetic dies and synthetic sweeteners

1379
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,880
on the daily. They don't even know it. Goofy af,

1380
01:40:40,079 --> 01:40:42,920
There's nothing great about that. Do not listen any further

1381
01:40:43,079 --> 01:40:45,640
unless you are an alpha or Sigma male. This is

1382
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,760
important and there could be consequences.

1383
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 1: There's a new.

1384
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 15: Certified Sigma male pre workout powder for Sigmas only. It

1385
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is guaranteed to empower you to dominate your co workers,

1386
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Speaker 1: Joel five dollars. Has been a while. I want to

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give you more money about my first house with my

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wife and our one year old son. I hope all

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is going well with you and your family. Well, thank you, Yes,

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01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:14,880
things are going well. Appreciate that. I don't know if

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you guys saw good old Biddy, our buddy Biddy, y'all

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01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:30,920
see him. He went to one twenty five last night.

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01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,439
So yeah, absolutely, I told you guys we would be

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01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:40,279
headed that way in the bull market. I'm expecting no

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01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:45,920
guarantees one fifty to two hundred at least probably good chance.

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Now we might not get there, and we might enter

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01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:53,279
into a bear market, but eventually, not only will we

1431
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,359
will we hit one fifty two hundred, we will go

1432
01:43:55,399 --> 01:44:06,319
to five hundred and a million. No presubsitionalism isn't necessarily

1433
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:12,159
tied to reform theology. Jack, have you thought about selling merch? Yeah,

1434
01:44:12,199 --> 01:44:15,239
we just haven't got around to it yet. If you

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01:44:15,279 --> 01:44:17,880
are interested in merch, so you can go to my website,

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01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:22,840
and we do have in the shop my books, and

1437
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:27,640
of course we're about twelve days out from Esther Hollywood

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01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:31,439
three according to the printer, but you can get signed

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01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:36,159
copies in the shop right here. And yes, everything that

1440
01:44:36,199 --> 01:44:38,600
you buy book wise is signed, so you don't have

1441
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,680
to tell me to sign it. Because every time people

1442
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,239
buy books they say, can I get this signed? The

1443
01:44:44,279 --> 01:44:46,840
whole purpose of buying it from the website is to

1444
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,359
get them signed. They're all signed. Now if you want

1445
01:44:49,359 --> 01:44:53,000
it specific, sign this to my mom, biebel Bobble. Yes,

1446
01:44:53,319 --> 01:44:58,119
then you have to tell me what to sign. No.

1447
01:44:58,359 --> 01:45:01,159
I don't have to have reformed epistol homology to believe

1448
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:07,640
in transcendental argumentation. It's just simply not true. So we've

1449
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:12,159
done countless podcasts addressing that over the last ten years.

1450
01:45:12,199 --> 01:45:15,279
So you're just rehearsing, rehashing all this stuff that we

1451
01:45:15,359 --> 01:45:24,800
talked about for years. BTC price doing very well. If

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01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,319
you're interested in bitcoin, you can get started with bitcoin

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through Swan Bitcoin. My referral link is in the show description.

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I'm not a registered financial advisor, but I believe that

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01:45:35,039 --> 01:45:38,119
bitcoin is ethical money. It is the future of money,

1456
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,159
and it is already way beyond our expectations in terms

1457
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:46,319
of when I started in twenty seventeen with bitcoin. Here

1458
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:48,560
we are at one hundred and twenty five, and I'm

1459
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,159
sure we'll be at one point fifty very soon. I

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01:45:51,239 --> 01:45:53,680
don't know when, but if you would like to get started,

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,319
you can use my referral link right there to Oh

1462
01:45:56,399 --> 01:46:00,760
that's not it, that's the super chat. Swan Bitcoin right

1463
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,760
here is a bitcoin only company. So when you purchase

1464
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,159
bitcoin with Swan, the expectation is that you would transfer

1465
01:46:07,159 --> 01:46:12,199
it eventually to your cold storage wallet. But you can

1466
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,199
now also sell I think on Swan. So Swan has

1467
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:20,800
introduced the cell feature as well, So there you go. Now,

1468
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,359
I don't typically do ald coin stuff. I don't care

1469
01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:26,960
if you want to do it. You're free to make

1470
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,159
your decisions. If you want to gamble, that's essentially what

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,840
old coins are. I will say though, that if a

1472
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:37,119
person would like to donate or support through any of

1473
01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:40,640
the other coins, you can support the work through the

1474
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,359
other coins. For example, I do have in the shop

1475
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:47,680
now the option you can purchase with crypto. I think

1476
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,720
it takes ten different ones. I'm going to convert that

1477
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,880
at a bitcoin. So I'm just letting you know. But

1478
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:55,359
because there are a lot of people who say, hey,

1479
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,520
I've got a bunch of you know, Solana, can I

1480
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,920
pay you in this or this whatever? Yes, you can,

1481
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,960
depending upon which coin. If you'd like me to give

1482
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,439
you those addresses, I can just request it. But Solana

1483
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,840
did make it easy, and so if you didn't want

1484
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:16,399
to support me with Solana, you can do. You just

1485
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:21,000
hit at Jasanalysis dot s k r and you can

1486
01:47:21,319 --> 01:47:24,399
from from not every Solona wallet, but from most Salona wallets.

1487
01:47:24,399 --> 01:47:26,920
You can just send to Jason also dot s k r.

1488
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:33,680
I will put it in the bigcoin, but pretty much

1489
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,199
most of them I do have like the coin like

1490
01:47:37,239 --> 01:47:42,039
the base wallet, so like most most cryptos can be

1491
01:47:42,119 --> 01:47:49,800
received in the base wallet. So I don't disagree with

1492
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:55,359
Eliakim in Isaiah having a reference to Peter, but the

1493
01:47:55,439 --> 01:48:03,199
obvious fulfillment is Christ. So Christ is the true through householder,

1494
01:48:03,399 --> 01:48:10,560
you know, the steward of God's house. And by extension,

1495
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,880
it would apply to every bishop who has the office

1496
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,399
of the keys. In Matthew eighteen, Jesus applies the exact

1497
01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:24,520
same key jurisdiction et cetera episcopal office powers that Matthew

1498
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,079
sixteen has. They're applied to the entire college of the

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01:48:27,079 --> 01:48:30,960
apostles in Matthew eighteen. So if you incorporate Matthew eighteen,

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01:48:31,319 --> 01:48:34,239
there's nothing about Isaiah's passage of Aliacim that is only

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01:48:34,279 --> 01:48:38,319
to Peter. Oh, but he's the head over the whole house. Yeah,

1502
01:48:38,359 --> 01:48:40,319
like Jesus is right, So Jesus is the head of

1503
01:48:40,359 --> 01:48:44,560
the whole house. Oh but no, it's Peter. So everything

1504
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:49,399
that's about Christ suddenly gets turned into Peter. Remember when

1505
01:48:49,399 --> 01:48:52,680
we did the Nick Fuentes debate and Nick said he

1506
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,960
thought that in Revelation when it said that I have

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01:48:55,079 --> 01:48:57,399
the house, I have the keys of death and Hades,

1508
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,680
he thought that was Peter talking. Jesus is talking about Peter.

1509
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:06,920
There's nothing about Peter in that passage. So instinctually, Roman

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01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,600
Catholics just default to thinking that all this is about

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:14,720
Peter when it's initially first and foremost about Christ. Now

1512
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,319
many Roman Catholics would admit there's a crystological element, but

1513
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:22,079
that's even downplayed to try to stress the petrine stuff.

1514
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,439
Jonathan Kelly, how do I ensure my date has an

1515
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:30,520
orthodox fronema pre supper? Always pre sup your date as

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,039
soon as you pick her up? Bobby C five dollars.

1517
01:49:33,039 --> 01:49:35,079
Now that AI's progress, can you make a new Chadmo

1518
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:38,840
commercial with Sora too? I do need to make a

1519
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,800
new chad Moo commercial. I'll have to figure out something

1520
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:49,560
funny to do. I'll have to think about that. James Colepatrick, Hello,

1521
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:54,119
I had a fellow Orthodox tell me no clear definition

1522
01:49:54,159 --> 01:49:59,239
of the Trinity is given. I mean, that's a very

1523
01:49:59,239 --> 01:50:02,920
odd thing for an Orthodox person to say. I mean,

1524
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:09,680
the Second Ecumenical Council is the Cappadocian Trinitarian Doctrine codified.

1525
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:15,720
I mean, just any basic Palmazanski's Orthodox dogmatics will lay

1526
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,079
out the basics of the Trinity. It's a very bizarre

1527
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:23,000
It sounds like a person who doesn't really know Orthox theology,

1528
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:29,840
sounding off like they think they know justin five dollars. No,

1529
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:35,840
we did that element two da visto three dollars. What

1530
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,000
is the theology quote unquote behind Saint Bernard receiving the

1531
01:50:39,039 --> 01:50:42,399
breast milk from Mary. That's a good question. I mean,

1532
01:50:48,039 --> 01:50:51,479
I mean, I have Bernard's commentaries on Song of Songs

1533
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:59,520
and so some of that is in there. I mean,

1534
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,960
I think it's just another level of Marian mysticism, and

1535
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,840
not all of which would necessarily be wrong, but it

1536
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:11,199
definitely begins to go in these kind of extreme directions.

1537
01:51:15,359 --> 01:51:18,560
I'm trying to remember what's in Bernard's commentary. I haven't, like,

1538
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,880
I haven't looked at that since I was a tradcat,

1539
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,720
so like I have. I don't even remember what's in

1540
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:28,079
his commentary on some of songs, but I mean, it's

1541
01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:34,439
just going to be medieval Marian mysticism. However, I do

1542
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,079
think that there was a Romancalic dming me today. Actually

1543
01:51:38,079 --> 01:51:40,399
he was talking smack and then I invited him to

1544
01:51:40,399 --> 01:51:42,720
come to Bait, and of course he turned down, he declined.

1545
01:51:45,439 --> 01:52:00,680
But I want to remind you guys of this present

1546
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,840
reality in the Sacramento. I think this is one of

1547
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,720
the overlooked reputations of Romantholsism, which is the just bizarre,

1548
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:15,880
outlandish ideas that you have to accept in terms of

1549
01:52:16,319 --> 01:52:20,399
histrionic women Roman Catholic saints like Margaret Mary Ala Coquay

1550
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:26,119
and her cutting herself and Jesus told her to do it,

1551
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,800
and this is like Papal there's two papal bulls on this.

1552
01:52:30,119 --> 01:52:32,960
You can't reject Margaret Mary Ala Cocoay.

1553
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:34,039
Speaker 4: Uh.

1554
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:36,399
Speaker 1: Every time I bring this up, the first thing Romancalix

1555
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,520
says is, well, is that dogma that dog I actually

1556
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,079
have to believe that, Yeah, you do. You can't reject

1557
01:52:42,119 --> 01:52:50,159
papal defined bowl Roman Catholic saints, and she is one

1558
01:52:50,199 --> 01:52:55,520
of the most preposterous. So it's like, I mean, Elijah,

1559
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,039
the prophets of Baal are over there cutting themselves, doing

1560
01:52:58,039 --> 01:53:01,920
the exact same thing that Margaret Marylyn cocoays do. Like

1561
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,159
just total delusion, dude, total delusion, Like the most extreme

1562
01:53:06,199 --> 01:53:11,520
pre last you've ever heard of. But I think this

1563
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:18,520
is actually a really strong argument against roguetholism. In fact,

1564
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,520
I brought this up to Wagner and he even at

1565
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:22,680
one point said something, Hm, yeah, that's interesting. I don't

1566
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,359
know what to say to that. So look, I mean,

1567
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:29,479
who cares about a PhD in tumism. I'll get PhD

1568
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,600
in tumism? Did Rome doesn't care about tumism. Rome's building

1569
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:45,560
multi faith Abrahamic faith complexes. There's a platform you can

1570
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:49,920
use to receive bitcoin super chats. Oh, I didn't know that.

1571
01:53:51,279 --> 01:53:56,359
A few Canadians used it during a live stream rajat Sony.

1572
01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:00,000
It's in bitcoin, not crypto. That's interesting. I never even

1573
01:54:00,039 --> 01:54:06,520
thought about that. The only thing is a lot a

1574
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,039
lot of people have signed up for bitcoin through Swan,

1575
01:54:10,039 --> 01:54:13,880
but not many people donate bitcoin or purchase with bitcoin.

1576
01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:18,199
It's very rare. So since I put the crypto option

1577
01:54:18,359 --> 01:54:22,760
to pay, two people have bought books with bitcoin in

1578
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:29,560
the last several months. So I'm not opposed to it,

1579
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,000
but it's just it's just very rare. I mean, I

1580
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,680
think we're just still so early, Like people still don't

1581
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:39,880
get it. People still don't have bitcoin. If you are interested, though,

1582
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:47,000
this is this is my wallet. If you want to support,

1583
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:54,720
you can support through bitcoin there. They should make a

1584
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,399
way to super chat with crypto though, I mean bitcoin

1585
01:54:58,439 --> 01:55:00,880
and anything, right, because you've got a lot of these

1586
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:06,159
people who are into crypto and they'l superchet. I mean,

1587
01:55:06,319 --> 01:55:08,640
I've had a you know, we had the ten hat

1588
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:13,399
cat guys were super supportive. They were very generous, so

1589
01:55:13,439 --> 01:55:21,159
I appreciate them. But you know, I'm a bitcoin supremacist.

1590
01:55:21,359 --> 01:55:36,960
I think it's supreme. I mean, I understand the criticism

1591
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:40,279
of paying for a product with bitcoin because it's almost

1592
01:55:40,279 --> 01:55:43,560
like you're paying you know, ten x in five years.

1593
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:55,640
That's that's why I could conceivably see paying for a

1594
01:55:55,760 --> 01:56:01,479
product with a stable coin or some other crypto. Now

1595
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,640
I don't. I mean, I'm happy if somebody wants to

1596
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,239
buy something with bitcoin, but I understand the logic of like, well,

1597
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:07,640
wait a minute, I don't want to buy stuff with

1598
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:11,279
bitcoin because that doesn't make anything like I'd rather I'd

1599
01:56:11,319 --> 01:56:14,079
rather stack the bitcoin and you know, pay out of

1600
01:56:14,119 --> 01:56:18,720
the you know, the petty cash drawer or whatever. Uh.

1601
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:22,840
And I don't know what's gonna happen with stable coins.

1602
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,760
It's a it's a huge maze and labyrinth. I feel

1603
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:31,399
like one of these rails it's not gonna be bitcoin,

1604
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:38,039
but something will be used, whether we like it or not. Uh,

1605
01:56:38,199 --> 01:56:41,479
to to do all these stable coins and all the whatever,

1606
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:48,359
all this genius evil genius act stuff's all about. I

1607
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:51,439
don't think it's gonna be B and B because that's Asian,

1608
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:54,600
and I don't think most people in America are. There's

1609
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,319
not a whole lot happening on B and B. So

1610
01:56:58,479 --> 01:57:01,239
you've either got an ethereum doesn't seem able to handle.

1611
01:57:03,079 --> 01:57:06,800
I mean, it's slow. The only other option is Slanna.

1612
01:57:08,359 --> 01:57:12,560
I don't think it's going to be XRP. I feel

1613
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:16,199
like it's got to be a Solana, whether you like

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it or not. Octavian ten dollars will the pope bless

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ice cube to promote the rap game Man When I

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heard about a blessing of an ice cube. That's what

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I thought it was. What is the let's say, platform

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for bitcoin's super chats? Nobody will ever do it, though

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you'll get like one, you'll get like one super chat

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like in six months.

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Speaker 12: How to enable live crypto superchats in OBS? So hey everyone,

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I just thought i'd make this short video to explain

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how you can enable live crypto super chats in OBS

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for your live stream content. Now, if you're unfamiliar with

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super chats, they're basically things you do on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's like five years old, so that's

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probably not I'll have to find that. Thank you for that.

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We're not gonna bore everybody with us. Let's see, let's

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go back to over here, Phil Jay. I love your work.

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It's off topic, but I'm thinking of picking up CSOs

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Space Trilogy. Is this something you'd recommend?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, of course. And in fact, after church, the church

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that I never go to today, we were at lunch

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and everybody was talking about the Space Trilogy. It's to

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become Here is my possessed half talk right here from

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four years ago. So there's that good godfather. Five dollars

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and Jay, the rumancalotics will not debate. They're reaching out

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to people like me for filler because they don't have

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any more content. Yeah. So that's what I noticed, is

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like they seem to be shifting towards culture war and

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giving up on the theology. I call him at five dollars.

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I listened to Matt Slick debate debate. Oh no, sorry,

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Rice Jay earlier. I honestly need prayer. I feel resentment

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towards Matt Slick. He's a wolf. Pray for me. Well,

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I would just move on waste don't waste time with

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that goofball. Yeah, he's a snake. Ignatio five dollars. We

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read that the Potato guy one dollar. What do you

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think about Fatima? I have an essay on that you

1650
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could read that. I also have multiple videos critiquing Fatament

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02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,560
Black famed Nova twenty dollars. I wouldn't be surprised if

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Fuentes didn't know about any of this. Well, I've mentioned

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it in DMS in the past. I've mentioned it in

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responses and replies. He just ignores it. I want to

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think that he will eventually, given his work so far. Well,

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the problem is that a lot of these people are,

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they're they're sunk in costs, they're dug in, right. I

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mean Tim Gordon is his whole life is committed to whatever,

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his law degree at the whatever. And you know, Catholic books,

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and so once you put on a bunch of books

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like you're you're sunk dude, You're you're cooked. You're baked in.

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Doesn't mean that they can't. It's just the more baked in,

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the harder it is. And then your ego, the bigger

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your audience. You don't want to admit you were wrong,

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You know what I mean? Michael? Five dollars in theosis?

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02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:48,079
Is it possible to retain personal affinity? Or is it

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all or nothing? H I don't I don't know what

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02:01:53,479 --> 02:01:57,039
you mean. I'm not trying to dismiss your super chat Michael,

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I don't understand what you mean. None to five dollars

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for contexts. Give us a reminder of why the Western

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power block did things to prevent Communism from remaining or

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taking power from certain places while also funding it and

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02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:22,800
supporting it. Well, I mean, it's really complex. So there's

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not a one size fits all answer to that. Because

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02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:33,960
there's very wealthy, powerful elites who played both sides like

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02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:42,359
Rothschild's arm and Hammer Robert Maxwell. Then there's people who

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were true believers, who were more ideologues, who weren't extremely

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wealthy and powerful, who would just kind of played the

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role of revolutionary like a Trotsky or something like that.

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And so at that level you've got people really fighting

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02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:01,199
it out right. You've got people in the CIA who

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really did oppose communism and they really did think they

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were fighting for American all this stuff, and they're really fighting,

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you know, Soviet operatives. And you've got higher level people

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that are much more long term in their game plan

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02:03:15,479 --> 02:03:18,319
who have wanted communism and socialism in some form for

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a long time. So all these things are true at

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02:03:23,359 --> 02:03:25,399
the same time. So it's not a one size fits

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all helpe that answers the question. Troth the docks five dollars,

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and we did that before, Slinky, Thank you everything you do.

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02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,840
J two dollars, Thank you, Leech, drop all this nerd stuff.

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02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:55,920
Pursue your Christian rep career. Me and Ruslan? Is it

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02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:59,199
Ruslan or Christian repper player? Paul? Five dollars? Do you

1694
02:03:59,239 --> 02:04:03,199
recommend the gym bitcoin credit card? I'm tempted to get

1695
02:04:03,199 --> 02:04:08,640
it because I got turned down for the coin Base card.

1696
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:10,800
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of Coinbase, but

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I mean I make enough money to have the coin

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02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,359
Base credit card, but for whatever reason, they turn me down.

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02:04:16,479 --> 02:04:21,319
So I'm out ready to just move over to Cracking

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02:04:21,439 --> 02:04:24,960
or Gemini. But Gemini, I think Gemini's thing is limited.

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02:04:26,119 --> 02:04:28,920
I mean, it's better than nothing, and it's better than

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02:04:29,119 --> 02:04:35,399
Coinbase's existing card, but I think Gemini's payout is pretty low.

1703
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:52,720
So it's like up to four percent, but that's only

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02:04:52,760 --> 02:05:01,640
on gas, which I mean, that's not terrible, but then

1705
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:05,399
dining and groceries is kind of low, and then everything

1706
02:05:05,399 --> 02:05:09,680
else is one percent. But that's already almost what the

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02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,840
Coinbase not the Coinbase one card, but the previous Coinbase

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02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:17,960
card which I have. That's basically what. So it's not

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02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:22,479
not a whole lot more than what it does. But

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02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,520
then I'm kind of pissed off that they maybe they

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02:05:26,079 --> 02:05:35,600
denied me because I'm always bitching about Coinbase. Their card

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is supposed to be four percent Bitcoin on every purchase,

1713
02:05:39,399 --> 02:05:44,479
so that's why I wanted that, which is completely ridiculous

1714
02:05:44,479 --> 02:05:49,920
because like I've been buying, unfortunately from Coinbase since twenty seventeen,

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02:05:50,039 --> 02:05:54,319
I've spent no telling how much money, thousands of dollars

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02:05:54,399 --> 02:05:59,439
over the years, tens of thousands of dollars at coinbase. Uh,

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02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:03,920
and they deny me for this stupid ass card. I'm like, whatever, dude,

1718
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:13,079
let's move on to something else. Ninety nine dollars ninety

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02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:16,239
nine Kresnik, thank you for your entertainment. Jay, this off topic.

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02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:20,079
What do you think about long term impact of Ukraine War?

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02:06:21,039 --> 02:06:24,319
Are we returning to their great powers in the road doctrine?

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02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 4: Uh?

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02:06:26,079 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 1: Really good question. I mean I don't know. I mean,

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02:06:33,079 --> 02:06:35,560
I don't know. It's a really tough one. I mean

1725
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:39,319
they've been calling a new Cold War, but the West

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02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:44,039
is just eating itself up with its own moral decay,

1727
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,760
so I can't see them. I mean, unless we turn

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02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,439
things around, we're not going to last long term with

1729
02:06:50,479 --> 02:06:58,000
all this degeneracy and insanity. I mean it's a tough one.

1730
02:06:58,159 --> 02:07:00,600
Bobby C. Check out the full big coin card. Yeah,

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02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,640
maybe there's some other options on everyone looked at h

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02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:23,640
m hmm. Yeah, this looks like a good idea. I'll

1733
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:32,159
have to check this out. Appreciate that fold. Okay. I

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02:07:32,159 --> 02:07:37,760
think people find coin based, you know, so easy and

1735
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,159
on board. So many people, and then you realize, like

1736
02:07:40,239 --> 02:07:56,199
this is a nightmare. Dude, Ah, it's just Nikki thinky

1737
02:07:56,239 --> 02:08:04,119
two dollars is endorsing a libertarian epistemology Jewish quackery. I

1738
02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:05,840
don't know if it's necessarily Jewish.

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02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 4: It's just uh.

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02:08:11,399 --> 02:08:17,359
Speaker 1: Enlightenment atheists epistemology, which is not exclusive to Judaism. Michael

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02:08:17,359 --> 02:08:22,039
five dollars my fault likes it and dislikes or tastes

1742
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:25,319
and hobbies? Do they exist within theosis? A very interesting

1743
02:08:25,319 --> 02:08:30,479
in Orthodoxy. Yeah, I don't think there's any reason why

1744
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:38,159
Theosis precludes enjoying leisure time. I mean, for example, Father

1745
02:08:38,279 --> 02:08:42,359
Moses is all about weightlifting, so I think you'll find

1746
02:08:42,399 --> 02:08:46,359
a lot of a lot of Orthodoxy stress is asceticism,

1747
02:08:46,399 --> 02:08:50,000
and there's there's overlap with asceticism and sports. So absolutely,

1748
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,279
I mean you actually participating. I don't mean you watching

1749
02:08:54,319 --> 02:08:58,319
stupid ass gay pro sports. Thank you guys, everybody, have

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02:08:58,359 --> 02:09:00,720
a good night, a lot of fun. I we'll talk

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to you soon if you would hit, like and share.

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Hopefully you enjoyed this

