Speaker 1: At wim Hoff's book about John Courtney Murray in his
close relationship with the Rockefellers. And the reason the rock
Fellers were so interested in this is that they wanted
to get some of the liberal Jesuits on board to
change the ethics of the Roman Catholic Church on contraception, abration,
et cetera. They wanted the Rummancality Church to accept skittles,
all of that stuff for deepop because of population control.
It was old chap Trump. Now who is David Wemoff.
David Wimmoff is a traditional Catholic, not a set of
a contest, traditional Catholic lawyer, and he wrote this book
which is one of the most important geopolitical books I've
ever It's a thousand pages and it has at least
probably a thousand footnotes, maybe more. I mean it's in
note so I can't tabulate them for you. But like
every chapter is, you know, thirty footnotes, and there's a
bunch of little chapters, and the whole book details most
of the stuff that you hear me talk about. Like
there's a whole section on Quigley, it's a whole section
on Woodrow Wilson and Fabian socialism, like, there's all of
that in the book, but also the changes that were
identified in Roman Catholic theology that needed to go. For example,
multiple Roman Catholic papal teachings about the state being Christian
would have to be overturned and done away with, such
as Quas Primus, the Feats of Christ the King, the
Document Immortal Day, and Timetsi Futura, all of which are
papal documents which talks about the need for the state
to also be or Christian etctera. You can't have acumenism
and ecumenism can't be a CIA project if the Catholic
Church continues to stress that the state be Catholic. So
acumenism is Americanism applied to religion. That is the thesis
of the first half of the book. And it's true,
and he shows it, and not just him. Michael Gratziano,
who has nothing to do with David Wimhoff or anything
to do with this theological Catholic project, says the exact
same thing. The OSS and the CIA understood that ecumenism
is a geopolitical project. Now, when I was a tried cat,
I was a dork, and I thought it was all theology.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all theology Thomas Aquinas.
Speaker 1: No, No, they don't care about Thomas Aquinas in Rome.
What matters in Rome is geopolitics and money in the
Vatican Bank. And that's what naive, ignorant, young trad cats
don't understand. As I didn't understand until I grew up
and got wise and I started reading things like books
on the history of the Massad. What I mean, like
Gordon Thomas's Gideon Spies. Why would I care about this
in regard to the papers, Well, it turns out there's
quite a bit on the papacy and Catholicism in this
History of the Massad book. And I'll just give you
one example. And I'm not I'm just showing you that
there's multiple interests involved in something as big as the Vatican,
in the Vatican Bank and so forth. If you, I
recommend getting this book. By the way, it's a great book.
A lot of what you've heard me talk about. There's
actually an entire chapter also kind of echoing this. And
for those that don't know, Gordon Thomas is a mainline
best selling journalist historian. He's written forty books, many of
them deal with the history of espionage and intelligence. He wrote,
for example, a book on the history of five and
m I six. He has a book I think I
have a book of his on MK Ultra. He's written
all kinds of stuff. Now, this is not a conspiracy book.
In fact, on the back of the book there are
blurbs and support from GQ Magazine, The Washington Post, Maxim
Publishers Weekly, Kirkus Review, et cetera. Even the former head
of the masaud says, this book tells it like it
was and like it is. That's my year. I'm a
former director of MASAD. So this isn't kooky stuff. This
is mainline academic.
Speaker 2: History.
Speaker 1: If you go to page two fourteen. By the way,
there's a really fascinating chapter on Henri Paul being an
asset for French SIS and MI six. And although Gordon
Thomas doesn't outright say that Diana was assassinated, you can
kind of read through some of the read between the
lines in this chapter at the very beginning. Anyway, fast
forwarding to page two fourteen, this is the chapter on
the OSS and the Cia and the Vatican. Oh what
about I thought those old conspiracies. No, no, it's actually mainline history.
You just don't know about it. In nineteen forty five,
the OSS was welcomed into the Vatican. In the words
of James Jesus Angleton, who was the head of the
OSS station in Rome, we came with open arms. Pius
the twelfth and his curia asked James Jesus Angleton to
help the Church set up a militant anti communist crusade
by getting the Italian Christian Democratic Party exactly what I
told you into power. Angleton was a practicing Roman Catholic
and used all of his considerable resources at his disposal
to bribe, blackmail and threaten anyone to support the Christian Democrats.
He had been given full access to the vaticans unparalleled
information gathering services, So the Vatican is an intelligence agency.
They existed throughout Italy and had quite a bit of
power information. Every curate and priest was called upon to
report the activities of the Communists and watch their parishes.
So they were all spying. Now I'm not saying comedy.
It was good, by the way. I know a lot
of a lot of you guys are dumb. I know
a lot of you people have a challenge with the
slow boy status I'm saying they're both bad. I know
that's hard to figure out that that you don't just
have good guys and bad guys in the world. I
know it's not just cops and robbers, or I know
you think it's cops and robbers, But do you understand
there can be two bad guys? Do you understand two
bad guys could oppose each other. I know that's hard
for people with you know, under one hundred I qu
to figure out. But they can happen, I promise. I
mean everybody watches movies, right or they used to. Do
you ever notice that sometimes two bad guys fight each other.
If you watch the Sopranos, sometimes Tony fights other mobsters.
When the bad can assess all this information, they would
then pass it on to James Jesus Angleton, who would
then send it on to assess and the lads at
the CIA, so they kept tabs on all the Communists
in Italy, and the priests were all spying. The Pope
was convinced that the Italian Communists were the spearhead of
a campaign to destroy the Romancllolic Church. Now that's partly true,
but the question is does the CIA also want to
perhaps co opt and destroy the Roman Galley Church as well.
The regular meetings between Pious and the Pious Pius the
twelfth and Angleton became sessions where communism loomed ever larger. So, oh,
wait a minute, it turns out James Jesus Angleton, the
Israeli file CIA master spy, is regularly meeting with and
consulting and telling Pious the twelfth what to do. In fact,
the Pope asked Angleton to do anything until the US
to do anything to destroy the communists. Pius the twelfth
suddenly became an enthusiastic proponent of US foreign policy. Is
interesting how that works. By nineteen fifty two, the Rome
station chief was now By nineteen fifty two, Rome was
now the station chief had now had the CIA and
at the OSS, and it was a new devout tradcat
William Colby. He went on to mastermind all the CIA's
activities in Vietnam, including the Phoenix program, which was the
weaponizing of serial killers. Colby had established a very powerful
network of informers within the Vatican State and the Secretariat
of State. In fact, every Vatican congregation had a network
of Colby's CIA informants. He used them to help fight
the CIA, to help the CIA fight Soviet espionage that
was also happening in Rome and throughout the globe. Now
that's true, And we covered John Kaylor's whole book on
the KGB and the NKVD's operatives in the Vatican. So
we've covered an entire that's a CIA historic that's a
guy from the CI. We've covered his book. So you understand,
I don't just go by conspiracy books. I go by
critic of the CIA and mouthpiece of the CIA books.
We look at both. I know that's hard for some
of you people to understand that there's establishment books and
anthe established books, and that we read both. I know
you're either or you're dialectical, but we don't do that.
That's why the analysis that we do is superior to
everybody else's analysis. And no one else, no one else
lectures through the books dozen by dozen by dozen like
we do. Who else does this? There are no other
channels that do this. I know Richard Grove talks about books.
I love Richard Grove. I'm saying, who lectures through all
the theology and the church history and the philosophy and
the geopolitics and the espionage. Plenty of channels. Do one
or the other who does all this? In nineteen sixty
the CIA achieved another breakthrough with Cardinal Montini Paul the six.
Three years later, he gave the CIA the names of
all the priests that the United States deemed by the
Vatican to be perhaps potentially communists. Now, in practice, in theory,
I don't even necessarily have a problem with this, because
I assume that this is going to happen, and this
is what would happen. But my point is that who
has ever told you this, that your priests and your
Roman Catholic prelates are spying on you and giving information
to people in Washington, and Washington is giving them information
in dirt. Nobody tells you this. The Cold War was
at his peak, and thus paranoia ran rife. The FBI
hounded priests, many of them that were suspected of being
liberation theologians, et cetera. The CIA thus had a substantial
slush fund called Project Money, that they used to make
generous gifts to Catholic charity, schools and orphanages. These would
pay for the restoration of churches and buildings that the
Vatican owned all expense paid holidays were given to priests
and nuns known to be staunchly pro American. What's the
problem going good? Based and tread?
Speaker 3: Do you based and tread?
Speaker 1: The problem is you now have new masters, you dummy.
Do you think the CIA is just your buddy? They
just give you millions of dollars and put all this
in the Vatican bank because they're cool. Who based and
tried to do? They're so cool.
Speaker 3: They just give like free money, Bros, give it all.
Speaker 1: Free money, Bro, They're so cool. No, it means you
now owe them. Okay, this is big boy pants stuff.
This is organized crime level stuff. You don't get millions
of dollars and do whatever you want, bro, You then
owe them. They're your masters. Now the borrower is servant
to the lender herbs one on one. Successive CIA station
chiefs thus were regarded by the Vatican as more important
than the American ambassadors to Italy. When John the twenty
three was elected punt of nineteen fifty eight, he stunned
the Curia. He was saying that a crusade against communism
had failed. He's the pink Pope right. He ordered that
the Italian bishops become politically neutral. The CIA began to
be frantic when Pope John offered his access, offered excuse me,
ordered that CIA access to the Vatican must cease. The
agency's panic increased when the CIA leen learned that the
Pope had begun to nurture the seeds of what he
called an embryonic ospolitic and started a cautious dialogue with
Khrushchev for the CIA station chief in Rome. The Vatican
was no longer committed to the American project. Now, so
you see how this is complicated? Right? I would agree
with John the twenty third stopping the Vatican direct control
access pipeline to the CIA, but not for the reasons
that John the twenty third is doing it. You see.
So John twayn third is doing it because he's open
to Soviet communism. They say, you see how this is complex.
It's not good guy bad guy. I know a lot
of you people think it's the world as cops and robbers,
your fourth graders who think everything works that way. But again,
you can have two bad guys fighting. Did you understand that?
Can you conceive of that? CIA analysts in Washington prepared
exhaustive assessments with such grandiose titles as the links between
the Vatican and Communism. The cia IS director at that time,
John McComb, flew to Rome and demanded a meeting with
John twenty third. He had come at the insistence of
America's first Catholic President, JFK. Nicole Well. Mccohone told the
pontiff that the Church must stop this drift towards communism.
For ten minutes straight, John mccoon spoke in this very
blunt manner without any interruptions. So you see like, this
is not this is not the LARPing crusade bull crap
that tradcats think. The CIA flies in, gets in the
face of the Pope and says you're going to do this.
Does this sound like medieval crusading LARPing bullshit where the
pope is the emperor queisats hotter rock of the world.
You guys are so naive, man, You're so naive. Speaking softly,
John the twenty third explained that the Church had an
urgent duty to solve world poverty, to help human rights,
to close down slums. What I mean what, and to
end racism. Oh I goess so? Johnswaye third is basically
just spouting a bunch of woke bullshit, as the CIA
directors yelling in his face, I mean, there you go,
two bad guys.
Speaker 4: Was that to you?
Speaker 1: John the twenty third insisted that he would be open
to talking to anybody that would help him end racism,
even the Soviets. This is so gay, dude. The only
way to meet the challenge of communism was to confront
it with reason and argumentation. Yeah right, good luck with that.
CIA director mccoone, unable to contain his anger. I had
not come here to debate you. The CIA is going
to tell you what to do. At that point, McCone returned,
convinced that John the twenty third was too soft on communists.
John twenty thirds not unexpected death rapidly progressed, so his
cancer caused him to meet a very soon. Interesting. Now,
I don't know that this was I'm not saying that
it was an assassination, but it's interesting that John Paul
the first was definitely assassinated very quick when he fell
a foul of these people in these individuals and John
the twenty third, according to Gordon Thomas, died pretty quick
after telling off the CIA director interesting. We don't know,
is it was it? Who knows, but it's just an
interesting series events. And then who becomes pope? Well, the
one who was really close to the CIA, Paul the six,
Cardinal Montini. In nineteen sixty three, two days after his inauguration,
the Pope received JFK in his office privately outside. ZIA
Director John mccoon strolled through the Vatican like a landowner
who had returned home after a long absence. So you
think you're gonna tell the CIA what to do? John
the twenty third, Bye bye, and we will put in
our man, Paul the six. Now, isn't it interesting that
when I brought this up the other day some people
were skeptical. When I replied to Tom Woods, remember this,
Tom Woods couldn't believe what what are you talking about? Dire?
Why are you Why would the pope submit to international
elites when the pope has the same ideology, he doesn't
need to submit. No, no, I'm talking about this stuff.
This is why the pope submits. He knows that if
he doesn't, he might just meet a John Paul the
First or a John the twenty third, quick end, And
that doesn't mean that John and the Paul the First
and John the twenty third are good people. Do you
understand a bad guy can kill another bad guy? You dummies.
I'm not calling my audience dumb. My audience is smart.
I'm talking about the newbies that show up.
Speaker 3: What is this skizo shit skizo? Whether he never read
a book but needs a skid though he'll read books.
She's a skid though.
Speaker 1: Now check this out. Somebody said, rock, it's what dire
saying true. Watch this? This was great. So I said
to Tom Woods, why would the popes take orders? I
just read to you an example why the popes take
orders from a historian, an intelligence historian. The same reason
the Roth tells were the papal bankers. The Vatican Bank
was bailed out, bought out in Gladiol. The CIA was
involved in papal conclaves. Kissinger regularly Paul the six and
the pdf blackmail exists. Now one swift young individual here
Epp said, Groc, is this real? And then Groc says
yes to everything but one. The only reason he doesn't
say yes to the bailout was because Groc doesn't know
what's in the Paul Williams book. Some of these claims
check out. The raw tells were the people bankers the
Vatican Bank scannels bank on Bragio involved in big payouts,
but no confirmed buyout typed to Gladio. Oh really, groc
Let's see about that, because it just so. It turns
out that there is a chapter on that. So at
one point the Vatican Bank was down like a billion dollars.
It was some crazy amount. I think it's a billion.
Let's let's check that.
Speaker 2: It's gonna fact check.
Speaker 1: Oh man, the rock fillers have mentioned in here a
bunch okay, one, let's try ninety one, ninety two. Maybe
that's it. They had, by the way, a bunch of
investments too. Remember they were they were trying to invest
and put money everywhere. They weren't just like they weren't
just storing the money. Right, So what happens when these
criminals get all this money is they take your money
and then they try to bet and make money on it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: This happened in the housing collapse. They were betting with
everybody's money, and then when it all collapsed because their
their bets were bad bets. They then got the government
to bail the banks out through the taxpayer money, which
they had been using anyway, they were using private people's moneies.
They've been using their their customers' money is to bet
and then when the housing market collapsed, they got everybody's
tax money to bail them mount. Let's see one, let's
try one thirty one two. I want to read you
this because I don't want to, like, there's so much
information in this book that it's hard to remember it all.
So I want to refresh myself on exactly the money here.
It is Augustine Pinochet and the bailout model.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 1: I think the Banka Privata collapsed. That's it. By the way,
this happens under Paul the six.
Speaker 5: So in case you're wondering, Okay, oh man, this is
so complicated.
Speaker 1: Now you when you read a book like this, you
understand why the FBI when they when even when you
watch a movie or something like, they have these giant
boards with faces and charts and boxes and lines. It's
like it's they're charting out because what criminals do is
they will concoct like really elaborate ways to hide money
with shell companies that set up other shell companies, and
it becomes a huge intentional labyrinth to confuse, and the
criminals are doing that on purpose because they're they're smart.
In fact, there was a genius engineer who engineered the
Brazilian car wash scandal. If you've never heard of that,
look it up. It will show you what I'm talking about.
Because the entire government was structured under a giant control
scheme that compromised all of the government. But it was
so elaborate and it was ingenius that it took many,
many years to figure out how they had set up
a scam. And it turns out the CIA and the
FBI figured out that it was a guy that they
called the Sicilian. I don't even know if he was Sicilian,
he could have been anything. Was basically a guy with
a PhD in criminology who had constraint. It was like
a mastermind, evil genius, and he had constructed an almost indiscoverable,
impenetrable criminal enterprise that corrupted the entire country. It was crazy.
There's a documentary and a TV show on this. It's
called the Brazilian car Wash Scandal. Now that's an innocuous scandal,
but it's a reference to the way that the whole
organized organized crime structure fell was that it just so
happened that one of the members of the criminal gang
accidentally left a car at a car wash when they
were doing something, and somebody allan some of the information
when they were cleaning the car, and this led to
the whole thing collapsing. Anyway, it's a really famous case.
But I'm still not finding the Rockefeller There's a specific
place where this book mentions the amount that the Vatican
Bank and other connected banks in it. Because all these
banks are connected, right, So the Vatican Bank, the Bank
of the Brosia, all these different banks are all connected
because they're all using the same funds and the same scams,
and is a specific amount. Let's see picture on thirty six.
It's also similar to the Franklin cover up too, by
the way, which is fascinating. Ninety six. I'll try that
out here we go. This is it. It's chapter eighteen,
and it's the chapter called Blackfriars Bridge. This is where
Roberto call Roberto calvi was hanging upside down on Masonic pose.
I'm being serious. So when Roberto Calviy was killed, he
was hanging upside down in a tarot card Masonic pose.
What's it called where the guy is it just the
death card. No, that's not the death card. What's the
one where the guy's hanging upside down, Jamie, hanged man.
That's it. Hanged man pose, that's it. So if I
recall when Roberto CALVII was assassinated, he was found hanging
upside down in that pose, and he'd been killed by
obviously by the P two. I'll read this to you
and then you'll see I'm where I'm getting this. The
decision to kill Calvey was not taken lightly. The CIA
had to resolve the bankoed Ambrosio affair, providing Francesco Pazienza
as the banker's new international consultant. The move displayed the
agency's determination to resolve the Ambrosiano Imbruglio and few individuals
are more vital of importance to Gladio than Patzienza. No
one was more wired into the operations power brokers. As
a trained physician, Pasienza had abandoned his medical profession to
serve as a Gladio operative. He was dispatched to serve
ceise me I think that's Italian military intelligence and was
assisted by a former NATO general, Santo Vito, Commander, Secretary
of State Alexander Haig and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
So these three people kind of running this operation here
to get rid of Calvi. According to Williams, a leading
member of P two, Kissinger regularly met with lechio Gelly
or excuse me, patziens As a leading member of P two,
regularly meeting with lechio Gelly, who was the Masonic P
two basically running everything on our Kissinger. He was later
named as a co conspirator in the Bologna bombing, which,
as we pointed out, is a Gladio operation. Since nineteen
seventy eight, he had been working closely with Henry Arson
at sipbomb arranging the sale of a fleet of warships
to Saddam Hussein. Pazienza was also a man of honor
with filial ties to to Callo and Inzaillo, members of
the Gambino family in the United States. By the way,
this said, all tie into John Gotti and send me
the bull too. By the way, that's why I should
have asked him about this. Didn't think too. Thanks to
the friendship with Michael Ledeen, Pozienza became deeply involved in
US political affairs, including the implementation of Billy Gate. This
was a plot connecting President Jimmy Carter's brother with the
Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine, a group that
sought the destruction of Israel and thus would tarnish the
reputation of Carter. President Reagan was duly impressed with Potzienza's
talents in the diplomatic into regnum created by Reagan's removal
of Richard Gardner blah blah blah. In nineteen eighty one,
Potzienza began to devise a plan to plug the gaping
one point seventy five billion dollar hole in the Banco Dembrosio.
It had been created by the loans to the Vatican's
shell companies. Through his CIA contacts, he arranged for two
American investors, presumably David Rockefeller and Robert Armaio, and three
Saudi businessmen to pay two banks one point two billion
to buy the nine shell companies that now held sixteen
percent of the bank called Ambrosio's stock. For several months,
the letter served to quiet the concerns of the shareholders,
so they sent out this letter that don't worry funds
out a safe fool, your funds out a saffool. That's
an old binance meme. If you don't know when posy ends.
It gained the necessary backing for this plan. The bailout
of one point two billion dollars was in place. The
group agreed to bring sixteen to buy sixteen percent of
the Ambrosiano stock held by all the shell companies as equity.
The investors intended to purchase more shares at an inflated
rate from the interested sellers in order to obtain a
twenty percent holding. This would grant them then ownership of
one of Italy's most prestigious banks. The matter seemed Roberto
Calvi then sighed a sigh of relief. No one expected
John Paul the Second's reaction. Pope John Paul the Second
opposed this plan, not because he's a good person, but
according to Potzienza, he said it was a pipe dream.
He just didn't think it would work. In a nineteen
eighty six interview with Lospresso magazine, Potzianza said the Ambrosiano plan,
in the eyes of the Pope, was to represent the
modern secular arm of the Church in the world. This
new temporal power was seen as the penetration and control
of financial and publishing activities, including the acquisition of Italy's
leading daily newspaper. This would counterbalance the secular Marxist influences
that were becoming ever popular and predominant in Italy. The
popes believed that the Church could weather this crisis and
thus take ownership of Bangote Ambrosio was reflected by the
optimistic statements from Archbishop Marcinkus, another one of the criminals
involved in nineteen eighty two the storm clouds gathered around
the Holy See. Marcinkus, in an interview with the Italian magazine, said,
Roberto Calvi merits our trust. We have no reason to
doubt him. We have no intention to seed the Banco Dembrosio.
And of course it didn't work. Ambrosiano collapsed. I wonder
if that means that they didn't buy it out, because
if it collapsed, then maybe they didn't sell it. I
don't remember. On June eleventh, while packing his bags, Roberto
Calvi told his son, I will reveal to you the
things that were once known that will rock the Vatican.
This will cause the Pope to resign. Interesting, well, it
didn't cause Pope Jump on the second to resign, But
what it showed in Calvi was partly correct. What it
did show was that all the decisions in Italy were
made by lechio Gelli at the best of Kissinger. That's
according to Calvi and Williams here right and on page
two thirty one about the Masonic symbolism of the death,
Calvi's demise was suspicious. Members of the various Masonic lodges
in Italy do wear black robes and they call each
other friars, thus the black Friars, an Italian name for
a Freemason. There's even a black Friar's lodge called Lodge
three seven two two on the list of Masonic lodges
in Italy. In fact, the masonry and the form of
the brick, the form of the body was seen as
significant as he was hung in the way that traders
should be roped down according to Tarot, so the hang
demand there. Now, to go back to Gordon Thomas's history
of the massade, after the death of John Paul John
the twenty third, we got the pro c a John
or Paul the six, and then we got under Nixon.
The Holy See once again establishes close connection to the CIA.
Under Nixon in regard to the Vietnam War. All this
za V z Amir had learned from his Washington Kotz
Katsas are the people that aid Masad, and the CIA
are resuming the Masade and Israelis and other countries. That's
the operatives. I should say that the Cyaneme are the
ones that aid them. Katzas are the operatives. Now, this
brilliant sunny morning of January ten, nineteen seventy three, he
and his two colleagues were driven to the Vatican. So
this is the head of Masad. I think it's the
Sun driven to the Vatican to check the security arrangements
for Golden Myra's visit to the Vatican. Zamir hoped it
result in Massad taking the place of the CIA in
the Vatican. So the Masada wants to establish this key
integral relationship with the Holy See waiting for them out
insie the Palace as the Vatican. In Vatican security, a
tall pinch face man unlocked the form of the Vigilii,
the Vatican security service. So wait a minute, keep in mind,
Pope Leo, Pope Francis, they don't want you to have guns. Oh,
but the Vatican has VIGILIAI its own securities service, its
own secret service, and they're armed. Interesting, by the way,
Leo just said, have open borders. Oh so the guy
who lives in a palace in a city state with
his own secret service says that we shouldn't have self
defense and we should have open borders. Trying to I'm
trying to make sense of the ethics of the Vatican here.
Oh you didn't see that. I mean he says this
like every day, So this is nothing new. What why
why should we have open borders because you're a it's
a missionary thing, a missionary thing, a missionary thing. What. Okay,
when I see uh, fentanyl tense cities in the Vatican,
then I will believe that Leo and Francis and the
goblins in Rome actually care about missionary work. Yeah right,
you should have open border because the missionary work. Imagine
believing this. Yeah, well, I mean I know that there's
the Swiss Guard, but I don't think this. I mean
maybe they have guns that are hidden or something, but
I don't think they have I mean there's actual secret
service that actually have guns.
Speaker 6: Right, the Vigilia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see these guys here that you don't Oh, look
at that there. Oh yeah, so here's this guy. Look
at this guy's just stacked to the to the brim
with secret Service one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirty thirteen is just right there. I guarantee they're all armed.
But you shouldn't have guns. I mean, just like next
level hypocrisy. Dude. It's like, what, by the way, if
you want to support the stream, you can do so
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is pinned in the comments and in the show description.
Fourteen men in black they're called the vigilia I that's
the Pope's secret service. But you should have open borders
and you shouldn't have guns, according to the guy with
a palace with fourteen secret Service guys walking around him. Okay,
soever za viz a mir uh get the assistants great,
So I love the admissions honesty here. When he was
taken into the Vatican, the first thing he did was
look for places that he could bug the Holy See
this is two seventeen. Like the first thing right here,
first thing I did? Where can I bug the Vatican? Now,
you guys recall this recently happened at the White House
when they brought the Israeli dudes. And oh turns out
I think was it General Flynn or Roger Stone. Somebody
talked about this the other day on Lord Baltimore. They
were like, yeah, after the Israelis left, we found bugs
in the White House. Shocker. I mean, it says it
right here right. Of course they're gonna bug the Holy
See what are you talking about? So this is during
gold in my Ears visit to the Vatican and the
massade with her wanting to establish a relationship with Okay,
so point I wanted to get to and all this
was when John Paul the Second comes to power. Turns
out he is very closely allied with and very close
friends with the Reagan era neo con Cia. And that
guy is William Casey. William Casey, the tradcat Who what
do you know? Fordham University? Anybody in the Orthodox world
have any any, any, any clue, any idea of why
Fordham might be relevant here? Oh, it's classic Jesuit Cia University. Now,
John Paul the Second meets with William Casey all throughout
his pontificate. In fact, Carol Votia had reached out to
reestablish the close ties between the CIA the Vatican. In
nineteen eighty one, William Casey, CIA Director, was amongst the
first people Jump Paul the second received in a private
audience after being elected. Casey knelt before the charismatic Polish
Pope and kissed the fisherman's ring and everywhere and every gesture.
The CIA director was a humble supplicant. Casey and the
Pope with us feed on each other basically what it says,
and then it goes on to say from the bansboard
of the CIA. The Vatican was a perfect Cold War
tool during this time. Am I read you to this?
Listen to this. Every Friday evening, the CIA station chief
in Rome was brought to the Apostolic Palace to give
to Jump all the second the latest secrets obtained from
the satellite surveillance and the electronic eavesdropping by the CAA
field agents. No other foreign leader had access to the
Pope like this every week. Papal diplomacy, which is the
political core of the highly centralized Vatican bureaucracy, had more
than at any time in its five hundred years, become
deeply involved in international events. As the world leader of
this involvement nearly calls the pope his life when he
was almost assassinated in nineteen eighty one by ali Aga.
And there's some really crazy wild stuff about ali Aga
and his connection to the Turkish Gray Wolves, which is
where the Turkish intelligence operatives that many of them were
recruited out of the Wolves, which were organized crime. And
he talks about Aliyadka being in the Gray Wolves on
page two, or he talks about Aliyaka in these connections
on two twenty four. I should say no, he mentioned
the Gray Wolves. Actually, Acca had been a member of
a terrorist organized crime in a group based in Turkey
called the Gray Wolves. This was the guy that attempted
to assassinate Jump on a second. If you don't know anyway,
that bolstered the idea of the Cold War, because of
course the CIA said Soviets are trying to it's the Soviets,
They're the ones that did it well. The next chapter
is about the attempts to normalize relationships between the Massad
in Rome in the wake of Gold in My Ears
unsuccessful attempts to establish diplomatic size the Vatican. Zavi Zamir
established a permanent Massad presence in Rome and tried to
penetrate the Vatican, working out of a building close to
the Israeli embassy. The Katsa tried to FA and failed
to recruit priest informants. Most of what he learned was
a gossip overheard at bars and restaurants frequented by the
Vatican staff. He achieved little more than enviously watching the
CIA chief head into Rome every week and his Friday
night briefings of the Pope. Oh, however, that doesn't that
it doesn't remain this way. This chapter continues to stress
how close John Paul the Second was to the CIA
on a regular basis. This is mentioned throughout this chapter.
I'm not going to keep repeating it. You get the idea,
hopefully if you want to check it at page th
thirty four. But the most interesting thing was that eventually, oh,
I'll just read this after this. By nineteen ninety three,
Nahem Admoni was no longer massage chief. His successor, Shibatai Chavitt,
continued the delicate process of trying to bring the massage
closer to the Vatican. Part of what part of that
maneuvering was to show that the Pope that both Israel
and the PLO. This is when they were still battling
with the PILO. I had, it long last, a genuine
interest in reaching some settlement, and they recognized a common
threat of Islamic fundamentalism. Jump all the second board the
physical scars of that through the Aliadka event. However, Massade
had been busy on a continent where the Vatican pinned
so many of its hopes for the future Africa. From there,
the Holy See one day expected to emerge a future
black pope. So maybe, uh, who's that black dude that
they all thought was triad, Who's like, actually just a
vatiganto liberal. Who's the black forget his name? It was
there that Massade had already shown itself in the past
Master of the Black Guard. Are playing off one intelligence
agent against another two securities O position. Now, that's not
actually what I was looking for. There's a specific section
where eventually it does mention the Vatican eventually does recognize Israel.
I think, don't think here it is oh wait here
we go. Oh okay, yeah. So if you remember John Paul,
the seconds BFF was Jersey Klueger, right, which led what's
that woman's name forget about. There's a book. I have
the book. This is it Hidden Pope Darcy O'Brien, The
untold story of the lifelong friendship that has changed the
relationship between Catholics and Jews. And this is all about
how no pope like John Paul the Second had ever
done what he had done to rehab all this right
relationship between the Vatican and the Jews. The Massad told
John Paul the Second that the plot to kill him
ali Agka actually originated in Iran. So Massades telling chop
All the second that it's the Iranians that tried to
assassinate you, and they use ali Aga which doesn't make
any sense. I mean, he's in Turkey and he's I mean, anyway,
the knowledge would color John Paul's attitude towards Islam and Israel.
I'm not sure what I mean. I guess that means
he's pro Israel. At this point, this gets into like
John Paul trying to navigate between Israel and the PLO
and Air Fat and all this stuff. Anyway, I think
what I'm looking for is here. So the newspaper reports
showed this is after the PLO had been involved in
a terror event April twelfth, nineteen eighty four, and I
think Luigi Pugi, I think he's the Vatican ambassador or whatever.
And then they invite the new head of the Massade
in the nineteen eighties to the Vatican. That's it, and
it says on April thirteen, nineteen eighty six, As a
result of all of this, John Paul the Second did
something that no pontiff had ever done. Can you guess
what he did? He went to pray in the synagogue.
He entered the Synagogue of Rome and was embraced by
the chief rabbi, each dressed in their regalia. The two
men walked side by side to the platform together where
the Torah was read. However, although this was a historic moment,
it still did not achieve what Israel wanted, which was
papal diplomatic recognition That would come in nineteen ninety three, when,
despite continuing objections from Vatican hardliners, diplomatic ties with the
Masade were established. There we go. Now, where's any of
the tradcats on this? What amazing tradcat hypocrisy to ignore
all of this mainline history. As every day they shout
juju ju juju incessantly when their own Vatican recognized Israel.
I think it's a saying recognize Israel in nineteen ninety three.
We'll fact check that. Let's go fact check. I mean,
this is what it sounds like Thomas is saying here,
or maybe it just means established diplomatic relations.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Holy See officially recognized the state of Israel
in nineteen ninety three. So that occurred due to Masaud
arranging Golden Myyar's visit and so forth, and leaking the
info that Iran planned the assassination of Dompol the Second
by aliadka Now who knows of.
Speaker 7: Being that's true. But the main point is that the
purpose of it work. The purpose of all that was
to get John Paul the Second to go to the
synagogue in Rome to show that he thought they worship
the same God. I don't know what the purpose of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a big pr stunt, like the
CIA getting John Paul the Second to go and uh,
it's in the John Taylor book. John Paul the Second
had this famous photo that helped end the Cold War.
In fact, Brian Holdsworth even made a video like talking
about how awesome it was, and it's like, did you, dummy,
John Paul? The second is not ending the Cold War
and defeating the Communists through a through a awesome stage
photo op. He's doing it at the best of the
CIAU goubas goobus. That's goofer and goophus together. It's my
new term. It's a goubas. Brian Holdsworth is a goubas.
It's a goofy goober who's all so a guphas at goubas.
How do we prove the Capitians taught hypostatic properties the
theological orations and then you need to read also not
just the five famous theological orations, but it's I think
it's like it's oration like twenty three all the way
up to like twenty eight of Greg renounci answers. Those
are great, those are some of the easiest ways to
show it. But also I mean, uh, doctor bo Branson's talks,
because he's going to go through the whole idea of
the father as the arka cause found, et cetera.
Speaker 2: What was a looking about?
Speaker 1: Oh? John Paul second Cold War photo. Now I've forgotten
which photo it is. Is it the photo with the
black Madonna? I don't have the John Taylor book here
with me. But there's there's some famous photo of John
Paul the Second that has to do with Maybe we
should just look up Brian Holdsworth video because he talks
about it. He might not mention the actual photo though,
I don't know, does anybody remember the actual photo. We
talked about it when I when I covered the John
Taylor book. I always like to source everything. How about
if I just tell you what book talks about and
you can go read the book. It's John Taylor's book
KGB in the Vatican Spies in the Vatican. This is it,
John Callon, So it has a whole chapter on and
he's pro like he's writing from the vantage point of
the CIA. He's a CIA Roman Catholic saying, oh yeah,
of course, John Paul the Second did what we wanted.
We helped you know, he helped us win the Cold War.
He's awesome. And by the way, have you noticed that's
another reason why John Paul the Second is John Paul
the Great? Why is he a saint? Well, it doesn't
actually have anything to do with his holiness. It's actually
a question of that he served his role in the
Cold War very well, and he was rewarded with being
the great T. L. Chiquoity five dollars. Thank you for
all this great info as well as for calling out
trads and the cafeteria Catholics for what they being Catholic,
for actually being cafeteria Catholics. Yeah, exactly. Track Catholicism is
actually just cafeteria Catholicism. Now they think they're a lot
more serious and devoted and committed, but they're no different
than the normal Novasorto cafeteria Catholics who pick and choose
what they want. Because the Romancalolic whole system is about
picking and choosing what you want, you're forced to pick
and choose. Slinky two dollars. Thank you for everything to do, Jay,
Thank you Ghost five bucks. Jay. I went to order
O church for the first time. It was my first
time in a church. Oh wow, that's great, amazing. I
had a great experience. Good. I wanted to thank you
for pushing me that way. Man, that's great to hear.
That's actually probably better off. You're actually in a better
position if you're just fresh, because then you don't come
with all this like Protestant or Roman Catholic baggage. It's
just it'll be easier for you. Probably Austin Albert's finders,
as if there wasn't enough reason to reject the papacy
based on historical theological positions. Now the corruption runs deep. Yeah,
that's the point here is it's not just a question
of theology nerds stuff. That's what I thought when I
was a naive young man. No, it turns out when
you see Leo the fourteenth urging European institutions to promote
a healthy secularism, what the heck does that even mean?
Just nonsense? There's no such thing as healthy secularism. What now?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Guess what the tradcats said. When I posted this, where
is that article? I couldn't even find it. It doesn't
even exist, kid you not. It doesn't exist, dude? What
I found it within five seconds?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I mean, just lie, just
straight up lie. It's the first freaking link that comes up.
What are you talking about? I couldn't find that order,
it's the first one that comes up. What are you
talking about? By the way, I like to sometimes bait
the Roman Catholics because what I'll do is it's funny
to do this. You can put up like a screenshot
and then they'll act like it doesn't exist or you
can't find it, so that you can then bait them
into saying it's not real, and then you go get
the real article, which just shows like, dude, there's infinity cope.
It's infinity cop. So sometimes you can bait them into
this by doing little tricks like this, and they'll always
fall for it. There's not a real article. I can't
follow it, dude, the first one that comes up, you
didn't even try to find it. The same thing happened
with another post. I put up this guy, and I
kid you not. The Roman Catholics said, oh, you're lying.
He's actually a Latin Mass trad Catholic. What what are
you talking about? They said, I made this up. It's
in your freaking main line dude. Life site is main
line Roman Catholic shit that is not made up. It's
mainline stuff. They said, oh, he's not actually a lib No,
he's actually a Latin Mass proponent, Archbishop Bermard Longley, the
controversial SOHO LGBT Mass guy. He's the one that did
the LGBT Mass. And they're saying he's a trad cat Latin.
They're just liars. Dude, You guys are liars, and now
I like that everybody sees that you lie, just outright lies.
He's a Latin mass trad cat. He's not even pro gay.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about.
Speaker 1: Also reminder, although we are not getting into this today
because I did a whole life stream on this a
couple of weeks ago, I want to remind you, which
is absolutely directly tied into what we talked about for
the last three hours today. All of what we said
is exactly why the Vatican Two documents teach Fabian socialism.
Well thought they were fun nicole war against the Communis.
The CIA is not a conservative, right wing organization. The
CIA is a Fabian socialist organization created by and headed
up by originally Fabian socialists. Though oss hesber Fabian socialists
openly they were against n KVD Sovietism. They're not capitalists
who were against communism. They're Fabians who are opposed to Sovietism.
That's why Gaudium at Spez teaches Marxism socialism. And if
you don't believe me, we literally go through in forty
minutes and I didn't even know there's other sections. I
didn't even know about In fact, gody Mezpez even says
open borders migration. I didn't even know it was in there.
Somebody in the comments pointed out to me. So I
didn't even get all of the of the proofs. Why
would that be? Because this further demonstrates my point that
Vatican too, especially proves and shows that the Vatican is
subservient to geopolitical powers and interests CIA, Rockefellers, Jewish interests.
They even brag about it in their Look magazine, to
change the theology and the doctrine, to be a humanist,
Americanist and whatever else nonsense openly, and all these books
show them. And there's the link you can go if
you want to see all the information on gody Mespez.
There it is. So I put this up because I
knew they would say it's not real. So you put
up a screenshot of Leo promoting the LGBT bishop. They'll
sit there and deny it, and then you put the
actual article on the show that they're dishonest. It works
every time. Now you got to make sure that your
screen shot is real, that there really is an article,
So don't fall for somebody else's trick. If there's not
a real article. But I also wanted to mention this
because now we understand why he would bless an ice cube.
He's not blessing an ice cube because we believe in
blessing over your object. This is a climate change event.
You gouphus, you goobus. It's not him blessing water like
the blessing of the waters in orthodoxy. He's promoting a
participating in a climate change event where Arnold Swarzenegger got
up and talked about how they lie in propaganda's in
this event. Oh you didn't You didn't hear that? Allow
me to play it for you. It was awesome. The
Pope invites Arnold, this ridiculous Hollywood goblin, to come explain
how they convinced everybody of this scam through pulling on heartstrings,
through using kids.
Speaker 8: And we started our environmental movement in California. When I
became governor, people went up behind us a cidema said,
why is that you're talking about kind of change?
Speaker 1: This is the event with the ice cub idiot.
Speaker 8: People said, yeah, this is kind of dangerous. Oh, you
need more than fifty percent right to get anything done.
So we talked in about the rising sea level.
Speaker 1: Nothing. The needle didn't move.
Speaker 8: We talked about the glaciers melting, the ice is melting,
the polar bears in danger. No matter what we said,
it didn't move the needle. Nothing happened. But then the
American Lung Association sent us a television commercial, little commercial
that showed a kit, a little tiny kit trying to
inhale almost was impossible. And then this child faded. We
don't know what happened. Did it die, did it pass
out or whatever. That little spot we put right away
on television, and all of a sudden everyone got interested,
and we had sixty two percent of the people behind us.
Speaker 1: In other words, we use the kid. Retards everyone needs
to retired, and we use the kid. This was the
way I used to see you. The people are retired,
we use a kid, don't use the logic.
Speaker 2: Of the facts.
Speaker 1: So all of these idiot tradcats filling up the comments
because one of my posts on this actually went kind
of viral, right, So the one that I said, uh
time for orthodoxy got like one hundred and fifty thousand
views or more, I mean mini viral, not super viral,
and so reading all the people objecting to it It's
like they don't even realize that climate change is a scam.
They actually think that the Pope is trying to save
the world from climate change and Arnold is telling the
truth right helping us here. So I had to remind them,
and not just them, also people in our sphere that
climate change is a pr rebranding of global warming. And
prior to that, it was the Coming Ice Age, and
part of that it was acid rain and the hold
the ozone, all this stuff over the decades. All these
are Malthusian scams, and they're invented by the Club of
Rome in their think tank document called First Global Revolution.
This is from that book, The Common Enemy of Humanity
is Man. The environmental movement is a Malthusian movement. Now
maybe originally there was some sincere people, but now it's
that in search of our new enemity nine as we
came up with the idea that pollution threat of little warming, etc.
To the bill. There you go. What's the Club of Rome?
Speaker 2: Were you.
Speaker 1: Now to also make this applicable to orthodox Unfortunately, the
EP is as bad as Rome in many ways. I
am not going to repeat this two plus hour stream
that I did seven years ago. You can go watch
this stream right here critiquing the EP in his he
literally wrote a book with the Clintons on the Green agenda.
So like that's he's identically the same. Okay, there's this
one it's called the Spooky Subversion of Orthodoxy. And there's
another one. Oh what did I name it? Actually there's two? Uh,
here we go. Pagdriar concept double and the Ukrainian Schism
were here also like seven or eight years ago. By
the way, I've been vindicated all this. You understand that
all the stuff. When I said this seven eight, nine
years ago, everybody, even a massive amount of the Orthodox world,
called me every name of the book, crazy conspiracy theorists.
I was evil. I was the worst person for talking
about this. Okay, who has been vindicated? Now? Have any
of these priests, bishops of people? Have any of them
apologized that I was right? No? No, I mean not
any of these other jurisdictions. I mean people in Rokor
have been receptive. Have any of the other ones? No? No,
Even though everything I said is correct, even though everything
I said about Ukraine all that's correct, I'm still bad.
And this is when the OCA went after me. They
started coming after me after this, you see see that.
So there's also this one CIA's man in Constantinople. When
this came out in the American Conservative. All the stuff
that I've been saying for eight years, and then we
get a guy writing about I'm not knocking the guy
I'm saying. A guy writes about it last year in
the American Conservative, mainline right wing magazines. Oh you mean
all the stuff that I said for the last eight
years that made me a bad man in orthodox world
and all of you naive people who just believed all
your normy docs about how bad I was. Oh, and
then the coof happens and I oppose all that. Oh
he's even worse. Oh he's the worst person ever. So
you understand all of the reasons why people in the
OCA and these people like, why I'm bad, it's this stuff.
It's because I talk about this, and I was writing
about Stabby's and coof and that was a whole another
series of years of why I was bad. And they
just lied. They lied and said I didn't have a church,
They lied and said I don't go to church, that
I just made all this up, don't They just lie?
And they're no different than trad cats. I would say
about half of the Orthodox world is good and about
half of them are mentally insane, unstable and crazy and evil.
So it's half an hour wheat and chaff. Now none
of them. But here's the weird part. Nobody will just say, yeah,
you were actually correct. They just double down and still
say that I'm evil even though I was right about everything.
And the bad news is that the reason for that
is that a lot of the stuff that we've talked
about today. Obviously the Orthodox Church is not immune to this.
The EP and many people in go ARC, many of
the priests, many of those people, they are all so compromised.
I mean, you've got like Orthodox bishops like Bishop Glitzen
who openly say Origin is a saint, which is totally heterodox,
Like what what are you talking about? And then his
priests underneath him attack me. There was one doing it yesterday,
and it's like, due, how are you attacking me when
your bishop says Origin is a saint? Like, I think
you've got bigger problems than me. No, but you see,
I'm the problem because I'm not an a humanist. I
don't do what these random meess people tell me. To
do anyway tro orthodox. What corrupts more deeply elite manipulation
by institutional capture you're saying, or individual choice and rejecting
the truth. I think both things happen, but individual choice
happens at a smaller level, right. Institutional corruption happens because
power elites, power players work to compromise powerful, influential people.
So if you are no i'm i'm, here is your
o c A dieside himself. This is the guy who
sends priests to come after me attacks. He won't do
it himself. He just sends other priests and people to
attack me. He's done it for years.
Speaker 9: Here's him and lunch was from origin of Alexandria, the great,
very great patristic writer. He was not appreciated him. Three
hundred years later they condemned him as a heretic after
he had died in the peace of the church three
hundred years which was wrong. But he was still a saint.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So your OCA bishops tell you
that origins of saint a man who was a universalist,
anti trinitarian who castrated himself. I've also been told by
reliable people that your bishop Glitzen here is a fan
of the Democratic Socialist of America. So you have a
socialist Democratic Socialist bishop, but I'm a bad guy. So
you see how this works. And in all the minions
of these people who just bark and chirp and repeat,
how dare you speak of a bishop this way? How
dare you? It doesn't matter what his office is, if
he's saying like outright crazy stuff, doesn't matter. No, you
didn't misspeak. I've met him and I've had lunch with him,
I've talked to him extensively. It's not, oh, it's accident.
They just slipped up. No, he's totally a lib. But
I mean, why are you guys surprised? Like this is
what This is the way that church is or control
is that compromise. People are put into positions like that
on purpose. It's it's this is not rocket science, dudes,
It's like simple stuff. Yeah, so here here it comes.
And the other The other thing that's weird about this
kind of stuff is like when you if you talk
about this, the immediate reaction is that people will talk
about how bad you are. No, you're evil, You're evil
for talking about it. Remember roots of orthodoxy. I went
in the comments and pointed out that the guy is
a fraud like he openly lied, he admitted he lied.
He's not a Catechuman. He told all the priests to
come on a channel to be that he's a catechumy
he's not. He's Rumman calvioc As he was putting out
all this Orthodox material on a channel that says it's
Eastern Orthodox. He's also producing all of Voice of Reasons
anti Orthodox content. Still claims it's an Orthodox channel as
a Uni a Roman Catholic, and he's making all that
money from his channel drifting. But all the people in
the comments said, I'm bad for calling that out. That's
how crazy this stuff is.
Speaker 10: What what're saying?
Speaker 1: Right? Anyway, I've never set foot in the OCA church
since that time, except for a funeral which was not
an OCA funeral as one of our parishioners passed away
until we had to have it at Yeah, if you
talk about this, you're bad. It's it's bad for you
to bring it up. How dare you? And they just
they'll pull rank on you in gaslight you that's just
a tactic, right, Vincent five dollars? Hey, look up Brian Harpell.
He's Charlie Kirk security, Okay, I have to look into that.
Barrett ten dollars, I'm Orthodox, had a cumin Please bully
me that I ever considered Latin papalism. Hey, look, it's
not your fault. If you got duped by quote minds
and tricks, you duped me. In two thousand and three,
I started reading the papal apologists. I thought, hey, that's
a a lot of evidence of a papacy. But you
have to be precise because I've noticed, especially since the
Tim Gordon debate. You guys, remember how that was framed.
It was is there evidence for the papacy? Well, what
are you talking about? I mean, there's the Orthodox conception
of the papacy. Sure, but you noticed the bait and
switch word concept trickery there. Oh is there evidence for
the papacy? And if I say, well, yeah, oh see,
but we got diary the papacy, the question is the
Vatican One conception of the papacy? Is there evidence for
that in the first thousand years? That's the real debate.
But they like to voice of prison. They like to
voice of sleezon. Oh like like the cookie I like
to bide cookie body he he talks like TikTok of
oz And by the way, isn't it funny that when
all of his scandal came out, what was all what
was the first thing all the robic Keller said, you
gotta forgive him, You gotta forgive him. Don't be your pharisee.
Speaker 3: Don't be phill right, jos.
Speaker 1: Dude, if if anything half like as insane as that
came out about me, they would be calling for my death. Dude.
They'd be like, it's justified to kill Diary. It's justified
to kill him. Like it's so crazy, dude. They're like
the biggest hippocrites out man.
Speaker 3: Diars should be hung unstrung, he should be drawn and quartered.
Speaker 1: But if it's Voice of Season, oh, you gotta forgive him, dude.
He publicly apologized, bro. Voice of Diddy. By the way,
you notice he would never debate me. I asked multiple times,
multiple people, sent multiple dms. Never got anything back, not
even in fact. One guy that was trying to mediate
between me and Voice of Reason, Right, I forget who
he was. Some dude on Twitter. It's like, oh yeah,
I know v or He's like, do you want me
to try to set up a bit between you and
vo or like yeah, absolutely, so he's like, okay, I'm
a DM, and then out of nowhere it goes quiet.
The guy never replies. In fact, I even say, hey,
what's up? Where's that debate? Ghosted me? Uh so? And
by the way, that was right before all the stuff
came out. So he either he ghost to me because
all that crap came out, or he goes to me
because Voice of Reason was like, no, I'll never debate.
Speaker 3: That, dude.
Speaker 1: But I mean, did you notice, I mean, just how
arrogant and just ridiculous he was in the UBI debate, right,
and and UBI makes like one joke and the Roman
look over me like, oh, it's the end of the world.
UBI makes one sasas comment to Voice of Reason, and oh,
my gosh, he's so evil. Look at the arrogance of
UBI Petres.
Speaker 3: Oh he can't debate.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. I mean, they're they're the biggest cry bullies.
That's what it is. Bobby C five dollars. He was
at my parish to raise a new priest. Ask him
my origin is a Saint Barrett? Excuse me, no one
became a member. What's up, dude, Voice of Mohammed.
Speaker 11: That's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody exemplifies the cry out as they strike you
worse than the Roman Catholics, They're worse than the Middle
Eastern people. JB. Pelt a two dollars. Voice of Reason
is a tool. I mean I didn't think UBI did.
UBI didn't do bad in that debate. I mean I
think every debate you look back and you think I
could have done better. But if the debate was about
how is that debate frame of a tournament? It was
like something like is the Catholic Church is the is
the Orthodox Church the catholc Church? Something like that, Like
for UBI to say, yeah, but what about in your position?
And then him just be like this't abate? Like what
I mean? Did you not notice when Voice of Reason
was debating Luigi that he would hit mute and he
had headphones and like he was talking to somebody who
was calling him. You can see him like either he's
typing to somebody or he's talking to Ibarra or Lofton.
That's how. But the people are they're pathetic, due they're pitiful, man,
you can you can see it. It's he goes silent,
but he's like, who are you talking to dude, it's
not your time to talk. Well, he's getting answers from
his Goblin crew obviously. And by the way, I didn't
even realize when I was debating Liquid Zulu he was
doing the same thing until somebody pointed out the other day.
I was like, I'll be damned, he is doing that.
I'm debating Google right, by the way, so you yourself. The
libertarian comments underneath this debate, they're a riot, dude, Like,
they don't know anything. They don't know what metaphysics is.
They have no idea what epistemology. They don't know what
it means to justify a position. Like one guy was like,
Liquid Zulu justified his position. It's called an opening statement.
They think just saying your position is justifying the position.
It's crazy, dude, they don't know anything. One guy was like,
libertarianism is not metaphysical. Has nothing to do with metaphysics, dude.
The nap is an a and one guy said language
is an ought, Like well, these are just just insanely
stupid people. Man, What the heck, why are you even
trying to debate? Man? But like, uh, rewatching a little
bit of this, I was like, oh, he's just googling stuff.
He's just like livetime Google debate. It's crazy. And then
and all of his crew is like, oh, you got owned, dude,
you got owned, dude. Heh butt blasted you, dude, you
got owned, dude, got destroyable. Dude is sitting there sipping
his four loco, burping half of the stream, freaking burping,
being quiet, saying I don't have to answer that. Who
what idiot would think that drinking four locos and burping
half of the stream is owning and winning a debate.
So I just left well raged, he raged. Quit. It's
like when them cocash was freaking eating ramen noodles in
our debate. I'm like, are you eating first of all
ramen noodles, that's your meal? What the hell's wrong with you? Dude?
Remember that this is the first debate, first public debate. Look,
he's freaking eating ramen noodles. Why are you eating ramen
noodles in a debate? You idiot? Am I not? I've
been reading all the super chats from YouTube. Relaxed it.
I'm anna read your super jet ignatio five dollars. There's
a Chilean Orthodox priest. He's an apologist. He speaks Spanish.
The Catholic response to his videos with the same stuff.
He's mean, he's rude. They're just being that's all they have, dude. Uh,
I mean the Roman Catholics are at that point like
there's no answers to any of the position. They don't
even care anymore. That's what's wild. It's like they don't
care about ants sharing any of the arguments anymore. They
just they basically just quit.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 1: All they do is just say that I'm bad. I mean,
that's it. Oh, he's a piece shit, that's it. That's
all they do. Literally, like if my name comes up,
they just say he's bad and then they move on.
They don't even care about when I'm signing thumb all
they put aside all the pretenses, which is actually good
because this is a step towards total victory, because if
they still thought that they had some arguments, they would
be giving them. Now they're just like, nah, just screw
him now, we just hate him. He just sucks. What
about the arguments? He sucks? Yeah, but what about it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 11: He sucks.
Speaker 1: He's bad. They just that's they don't care anymore, which
is a good sign. Because that means that they're at
the point where they're giving they're giving up on actually
addressing or arguing any of the points because it's it's
not working to use the old tried and true tricks. Yes,
have debated Trent Horn, Oh, it's not infallible. People are realizing,
like you just pull the no infallible card whenever it
doesn't work for you, and then it's infallible when you
want it. People are figuring this out that you're the
same as Protestants. You just have more boring books than Protestants.
Instead of the Bible and picking and choosing which ones
worked for me at what time, you got ten thousand
more papal documents, which are ten thousand times more boring.
So you're actually worse than a Protestant in that regard
because you got to sift through tens of thousands of
pages of papal documents. Yeah, but what about Adam koquesh
is ramen noodle? I'm like, dude, what are you you
slurping ramen noodles before a debate. This was the first debate,
by the way, this was even pre JF.
Speaker 8: JB.
Speaker 1: Pelty A ten dollars The truth of the heteronox is
at the forefront. Now, I basically have Protestant friends straight
at rejecting all the first century because it's not about
the facts. Yeah, that's actually good though, So don't be
upset when you see people resorting to, you know what,
I don't care about the theology, I hate you. That's
actually that means we're making progress. I'm being serious because
they're just emotionally reacting, and it's like the last resort
to where they've given up on intellectual responses. I mean,
when was the last time you saw Matt Frad? Even
Trent i'n't kept up with these people, Brian Holdsworth, Loften,
any of them actually try to give like a like
look like what we did tonight. I mean, I know
we were not talking mainly about theology, but I mean
we spent the first hour in history and theology. When
was the last time any of the Roman Catholic out
here actually put hours into detailed public refutation of positions?
I mean maybe some of them haven't. I just haven't
kept up. Let's see what Matt Frad's been doing. Are
are we getting deep theological meat over here? Is the
university system dead Catholicism is the new punk rock. So no,
basically we're getting just low tier mush. The Latin Mass
isn't going away, even though the papacy's actively banning it.
Michael Knowles dating Internet, So we got to go back
one month to Scott han talking about the apocalypse. Okay,
so basically mush for the last month. Let's see what
Let's see what? Uh, let's see we're lofting or two dogs,
so welcome back. Well, here's at least a theology debate.
Is Jesus God. But by the way, did you see
he brought on Jake the Muslim metaphysician, so he'll bring
on the enemies of Christ before anybody else. Of course,
let's see what's Loften talking about here? Benedict or Leo,
Vatican drama, Ice, blessings the Pope and Arnold. I don't
know if I would call this meat or anything substantial.
It's like a lot of it looks like a lot
of low tiered like drama. And now he's having to
resort to debates because nobody cares about his dumb ass
takes and everything. Okay, who else is left? At least
Trent's probably doing some kind of something refuting redeemed Zuomer
sin sex questions, cancel culture, should we hate people? Doesn't
really look like anything very media or substantial Charlie Kirk
Ben Shapiro. So basically they're retreating to culture war because
they've lost the theology debates. This is what I'm assessing here. Hey,
forget all the theology. We don't win that domain, plus
all the money and the clicks or in the culture
war stuff anyway. So that's where they're at. Who's left?
Who else is there? Tim? Let's see what Tim's talking about.
He's probably talking about Vatican drum, Welcome to Rules for Rector.
You don't really get much theology over here, because of
course God's glory is created, according to Tim Gordon. But
I bet we get Vatican drama, soap opera and Rome.
What do we got?
Speaker 13: Cultural war? Culture war? Culture war, culture war, cultural war, exorcism,
drama drama, cultural war.
Speaker 1: So they're giving up on theology. Looks like to me,
I don't care that Wagner met a video. I don't
care what am I?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: No video? I mean if you don't find all the
stuff that I've talked about convincing, and you want to
be a Roman Catholic. As I've told you guys like
I'm done due have fun with that. If you want
to be a Roman Catholic and you find the idiotic
Tomistic created grace position good, then I actually think we
don't want you in Orthodoxy. I hope that you don't
become Orthodox. We don't want people trying to make Orthodoxy tomas,
so you should be kept out. We don't want you.
Elia shared on five dollars, JA, do you have any
specific recommendations on Lyons and Florence. Yes, the Ostromov book
is a classic Council of Florence Ostromov. Yeah, but Wagner
isn't a I just say go watch doctor bo Branson,
because everything that I say is what I've actually read
extensively in the Cappadocians. And what Wagner does is quote
mining the Cappadocians to try to prove from Catholicism. And
if you actually read the Cappadotion you don't have to
read very far. They teach the Essen Syner distinction, they
teach hypoestic properties, they teach the fathers of the soul arcade.
They don't teach the tomistic nonsense. That he does as
a revisionist, and again, go be with those guys, Go
be a Roman Catholic, go be gay, and go away.
And by the way, I've asked Wagner multiple times to
debate since in the last say six months, at least
two or three times, and he says, I can't debate.
I'm not debated, I'm not a debater. Make a video
responding to me. I'm not gonna make videos.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I've asked multiple times, let's have a debate. He's not interested.
So I just there's no point at this point, unless
you're just brand new to all this material, that you
would even consider a Roman Catholic option. Unless I don't know,
I mean, I just just be gay. To just go
be gay, like no one is stopping you from joining
the Skittles church. Go do it. And I would, we would,
we would. We would not want people wanting to make
Orthodoxy tomistic. I mean they want Theophanes to be creatures.
They think God has created attributes. It's just stupid. They
they say, we're idolators when they say that God's glory
is a creature. Like, it's so stupid, man, I mean,
you're talking to people who by the way. The other
thing is that they're not interested in our positions. I've
given Tim Gordon the same book recommendations for five years.
He read zero of them. That tells me that he's
not interested. I've given Wagner book recommendations. He has read
exactly zero of the recommendations that I give. Why would
I give attention, traction, clicks and all of that. When
a person is not interested in understanding the position, it's
just polemics and clicks. There's no point. There is no
way to get into orthodox theology without doing the reading.
Who's another one? So they're just retreating the culture ward.
They're giving up on theology because they've lost all the
theology theology domain. Who else is there? Matt Frad, Trent Horn,
Gordon Brian's. He doesn't even really do apologics though, like
his style of should we listen to death metal? Like
should Christian's listened to culture? Culture war? Culture war, Eucharist,
culture war, ethics, culture war? Well, what I'm noticing, though,
is culture war orthodoxy culture war. So a lot of
this appeals in mass and it's because it's low tier.
I tried to get Joel Hushmeier come debate, but you
understand a lot of these people will not debate, and
what they say is, oh, Dyer won't debate because he
won't come on a Catholic channel to debate, even though
for many of these people I've offered and tried to
find some neutral thing and really they're not interested in debating,
and so that becomes the excuse that, well, he's a
bad actor, so I don't have to debate him. He's mean.
And also he won't debate on a Catholic channel, which
is not true. It's just that I've said I'll debate
on a big Catholic channel, but they won't have me on.
Matt Fridas, I'll never have him on. So these people
are absolutely terrified of actual, real debate and confrontation because
when I debated Trent Hornet didn't go good for Trent,
and everybody knows it because Trent made basic blunders. He
didn't he thinks the Trinity isn't the old test, Like
just crazy shit. Justin did you see that go Art
priest Elias Velis accept blessings and laying on of hands
by a rabbi. I did see that, but like, why
are we surprised they're acumenists. What do you expect? None
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Eliakim in Isaiah having a reference to Peter, but the
obvious fulfillment is Christ. So Christ is the true through householder,
you know, the steward of God's house. And by extension,
it would apply to every bishop who has the office
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sixteen has. They're applied to the entire college of the
apostles in Matthew eighteen. So if you incorporate Matthew eighteen,
there's nothing about Isaiah's passage of Aliacim that is only
to Peter. Oh, but he's the head over the whole house. Yeah,
like Jesus is right, So Jesus is the head of
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that's about Christ suddenly gets turned into Peter. Remember when
we did the Nick Fuentes debate and Nick said he
thought that in Revelation when it said that I have
the house, I have the keys of death and Hades,
he thought that was Peter talking. Jesus is talking about Peter.
There's nothing about Peter in that passage. So instinctually, Roman
Catholics just default to thinking that all this is about
Peter when it's initially first and foremost about Christ. Now
many Roman Catholics would admit there's a crystological element, but
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I had a fellow Orthodox tell me no clear definition
of the Trinity is given. I mean, that's a very
odd thing for an Orthodox person to say. I mean,
the Second Ecumenical Council is the Cappadocian Trinitarian Doctrine codified.
I mean, just any basic Palmazanski's Orthodox dogmatics will lay
out the basics of the Trinity. It's a very bizarre
It sounds like a person who doesn't really know Orthox theology,
sounding off like they think they know justin five dollars. No,
we did that element two da visto three dollars. What
is the theology quote unquote behind Saint Bernard receiving the
breast milk from Mary. That's a good question. I mean,
I mean, I have Bernard's commentaries on Song of Songs
and so some of that is in there. I mean,
I think it's just another level of Marian mysticism, and
not all of which would necessarily be wrong, but it
definitely begins to go in these kind of extreme directions.
I'm trying to remember what's in Bernard's commentary. I haven't, like,
I haven't looked at that since I was a tradcat,
so like I have. I don't even remember what's in
his commentary on some of songs, but I mean, it's
just going to be medieval Marian mysticism. However, I do
think that there was a Romancalic dming me today. Actually
he was talking smack and then I invited him to
come to Bait, and of course he turned down, he declined.
But I want to remind you guys of this present
reality in the Sacramento. I think this is one of
the overlooked reputations of Romantholsism, which is the just bizarre,
outlandish ideas that you have to accept in terms of
histrionic women Roman Catholic saints like Margaret Mary Ala Coquay
and her cutting herself and Jesus told her to do it,
and this is like Papal there's two papal bulls on this.
You can't reject Margaret Mary Ala Cocoay.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Every time I bring this up, the first thing Romancalix
says is, well, is that dogma that dog I actually
have to believe that, Yeah, you do. You can't reject
papal defined bowl Roman Catholic saints, and she is one
of the most preposterous. So it's like, I mean, Elijah,
the prophets of Baal are over there cutting themselves, doing
the exact same thing that Margaret Marylyn cocoays do. Like
just total delusion, dude, total delusion, Like the most extreme
pre last you've ever heard of. But I think this
is actually a really strong argument against roguetholism. In fact,
I brought this up to Wagner and he even at
one point said something, Hm, yeah, that's interesting. I don't
know what to say to that. So look, I mean,
who cares about a PhD in tumism. I'll get PhD
in tumism? Did Rome doesn't care about tumism. Rome's building
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any more content. Yeah. So that's what I noticed, is
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giving up on the theology. I call him at five dollars.
I listened to Matt Slick debate debate. Oh no, sorry,
Rice Jay earlier. I honestly need prayer. I feel resentment
towards Matt Slick. He's a wolf. Pray for me. Well,
I would just move on waste don't waste time with
that goofball. Yeah, he's a snake. Ignatio five dollars. We
read that the Potato guy one dollar. What do you
think about Fatima? I have an essay on that you
could read that. I also have multiple videos critiquing Fatament
Black famed Nova twenty dollars. I wouldn't be surprised if
Fuentes didn't know about any of this. Well, I've mentioned
it in DMS in the past. I've mentioned it in
responses and replies. He just ignores it. I want to
think that he will eventually, given his work so far. Well,
the problem is that a lot of these people are,
they're they're sunk in costs, they're dug in, right. I
mean Tim Gordon is his whole life is committed to whatever,
his law degree at the whatever. And you know, Catholic books,
and so once you put on a bunch of books
like you're you're sunk dude, You're you're cooked. You're baked in.
Doesn't mean that they can't. It's just the more baked in,
the harder it is. And then your ego, the bigger
your audience. You don't want to admit you were wrong,
You know what I mean? Michael? Five dollars in theosis?
Is it possible to retain personal affinity? Or is it
all or nothing? H I don't I don't know what
you mean. I'm not trying to dismiss your super chat Michael,
I don't understand what you mean. None to five dollars
for contexts. Give us a reminder of why the Western
power block did things to prevent Communism from remaining or
taking power from certain places while also funding it and
supporting it. Well, I mean, it's really complex. So there's
not a one size fits all answer to that. Because
there's very wealthy, powerful elites who played both sides like
Rothschild's arm and Hammer Robert Maxwell. Then there's people who
were true believers, who were more ideologues, who weren't extremely
wealthy and powerful, who would just kind of played the
role of revolutionary like a Trotsky or something like that.
And so at that level you've got people really fighting
it out right. You've got people in the CIA who
really did oppose communism and they really did think they
were fighting for American all this stuff, and they're really fighting,
you know, Soviet operatives. And you've got higher level people
that are much more long term in their game plan
who have wanted communism and socialism in some form for
a long time. So all these things are true at
the same time. So it's not a one size fits
all helpe that answers the question. Troth the docks five dollars,
and we did that before, Slinky, Thank you everything you do.
J two dollars, Thank you, Leech, drop all this nerd stuff.
Pursue your Christian rep career. Me and Ruslan? Is it
Ruslan or Christian repper player? Paul? Five dollars? Do you
recommend the gym bitcoin credit card? I'm tempted to get
it because I got turned down for the coin Base card.
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of Coinbase, but
I mean I make enough money to have the coin
Base credit card, but for whatever reason, they turn me down.
So I'm out ready to just move over to Cracking
or Gemini. But Gemini, I think Gemini's thing is limited.
I mean, it's better than nothing, and it's better than
Coinbase's existing card, but I think Gemini's payout is pretty low.
So it's like up to four percent, but that's only
on gas, which I mean, that's not terrible, but then
dining and groceries is kind of low, and then everything
else is one percent. But that's already almost what the
Coinbase not the Coinbase one card, but the previous Coinbase
card which I have. That's basically what. So it's not
not a whole lot more than what it does. But
then I'm kind of pissed off that they maybe they
denied me because I'm always bitching about Coinbase. Their card
is supposed to be four percent Bitcoin on every purchase,
so that's why I wanted that, which is completely ridiculous
because like I've been buying, unfortunately from Coinbase since twenty seventeen,
I've spent no telling how much money, thousands of dollars
over the years, tens of thousands of dollars at coinbase. Uh,
and they deny me for this stupid ass card. I'm like, whatever, dude,
let's move on to something else. Ninety nine dollars ninety
nine Kresnik, thank you for your entertainment. Jay, this off topic.
What do you think about long term impact of Ukraine War?
Are we returning to their great powers in the road doctrine?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Really good question. I mean I don't know. I mean,
I don't know. It's a really tough one. I mean
they've been calling a new Cold War, but the West
is just eating itself up with its own moral decay,
so I can't see them. I mean, unless we turn
things around, we're not going to last long term with
all this degeneracy and insanity. I mean it's a tough one.
Bobby C. Check out the full big coin card. Yeah,
maybe there's some other options on everyone looked at h
m hmm. Yeah, this looks like a good idea. I'll
have to check this out. Appreciate that fold. Okay. I
think people find coin based, you know, so easy and
on board. So many people, and then you realize, like
this is a nightmare. Dude, Ah, it's just Nikki thinky
two dollars is endorsing a libertarian epistemology Jewish quackery. I
don't know if it's necessarily Jewish.
Speaker 4: It's just uh.
Speaker 1: Enlightenment atheists epistemology, which is not exclusive to Judaism. Michael
five dollars my fault likes it and dislikes or tastes
and hobbies? Do they exist within theosis? A very interesting
in Orthodoxy. Yeah, I don't think there's any reason why
Theosis precludes enjoying leisure time. I mean, for example, Father
Moses is all about weightlifting, so I think you'll find
a lot of a lot of Orthodoxy stress is asceticism,
and there's there's overlap with asceticism and sports. So absolutely,
I mean you actually participating. I don't mean you watching
stupid ass gay pro sports. Thank you guys, everybody, have
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