WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.759 You're listening to KFI A six forty on demand. 2 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:08.599 Mary. Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:09.759 Hi, this is Mary. 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:11.400 How can I help you? Mary? 5 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.880 I have a child that I sent I'm a Calvinist 6 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:20.879 by nature, okay, and I sent my child to a 7 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:28.679 Christian college that purports that type of theology, and she 8 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:33.079 is now going to a church that basically preaches universalism, 9 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:38.880 and I'm very concerned for her. It's like, there's the 10 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.240 pastor's preaching that there's basically no hell, and I want 11 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:42.320 to know how I can reach her. 12 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.799 This is a weird one because really, on its face, 13 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:51.039 it makes no sense. You really have to stretch hard 14 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:54.759 to try and get you know, that everyone gets to 15 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:59.840 heaven type thing, and there's no consequences to actions at all. 16 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.079 Just doesn't really fit into scripture. I will say this. 17 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:09.799 In Matthew chapter twenty five, verse forty six, it says, 18 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.640 and these will go away into eternal punishment, but the 19 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:17.560 righteous into eternal life. The Greek word there for eternal 20 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:22.480 in both cases isious, and both the same words, so 21 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.359 there's no reason to think that one is speaking about 22 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.200 eternity and then the other one's not. So it's almost 23 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.319 like you wish fulfillment to say, well, no, when it's 24 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.159 talking about eternal life, it means eternal life. But when 25 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:41.760 it's talking about eternal punishment, it's not really talking about eternity. 26 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.200 God's just going to either make them cease to be 27 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:51.319 or God's going to bring them into heaven. Has God 28 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:57.840 won everybody in heaven? Absolutely? But a clear but often 29 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:04.040 misunderstood answer to this deals with me being in the 30 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.200 garden of Gathsemone and I'm in the garden and if 31 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:09.520 you remember, I'm praying to the Father and I say, 32 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:17.080 if this cup can pass from me? And essentially God says, no, 33 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.479 it can't. But what am I asking? Am I saying 34 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:21.960 just I don't want to have to go to the cross. 35 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:22.960 It seems like a hassle. 36 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:23.400 Dad. 37 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.360 No, what I'm saying is that if there's any other 38 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.120 way into heaven, if you can get into heaven by 39 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.520 being a good person, if you can get into heaven 40 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.719 by believing whatever you want, if you can get into 41 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:36.639 heaven any other way, then I don't want to have 42 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:42.360 to do this. And not in words, but obviously in action, 43 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.759 the response is no, this is the way that it 44 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.960 needs to be done, and it's like that in every 45 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:54.360 aspect of life. I think it's a beautiful thought, a 46 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.400 beautiful notion. But universalism even has its own problems. It 47 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.360 sounds like, oh gosh, but it receives all things. No, 48 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:06.039 it doesn't. It doesn't receive those things in which it 49 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.000 disagrees with. So it isn't as universal as you think. 50 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:11.719 It does have a point where it says, no, you're wrong, 51 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.360 and if there is, because even if you say there's 52 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:18.479 you know, universalism is wrong, they'd say, no, you're wrong, 53 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.960 which implies that there is a wrong. And if there 54 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:27.759 is a wrong, then you're accountable for it. So why 55 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.360 are they not looking to see if they are accountable 56 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.080 for what they're staying or saying, or the statements they're making. 57 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.080 It's becoming really popular and you'll find people, even very 58 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.159 well educated pastors and leaders right about this. I think 59 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:50.039 that the weight of the concept of eternity weighs on people, 60 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.719 and people say, but God is loving God, Yes, but 61 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.360 love comes with consequences. True love is telling somebody they 62 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.960 have something in their teeth. True love is letting somebody 63 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.919 giving them the freedom to make decisions even if they're bad. 64 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.319 You protect them as you can. But you can't protect 65 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:17.600 someone from themselves. And to take that away or to 66 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.040 somehow say that, oh, well, it's just you know, it 67 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:24.000 doesn't matter what you do, it really starts wreaking of satanism, 68 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.319 which is due as thou wilt as the whole of law. 69 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:28.680 If you do whatever you want and you'll get in 70 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.720 and it doesn't matter, then none of it matters. Then 71 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.680 there is no pattern, no otness, nothing you should do 72 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.879 you should not do, that plays a part in it 73 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:43.720 at all. It doesn't matter. If there are no scoring 74 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:48.600 mechanisms in a game or sport of any kind, and 75 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:50.920 there are no rules, it is no longer a sport, 76 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.240 it is no longer a game, it's no longer worth watching. 77 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.560 There must be consequences, if for no other reason, then 78 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:02.160 man is an intellectual being created with intellect, will and emotion, 79 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:08.160 and knows the difference between right and wrong. If you 80 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.680 know the difference between right and wrong, that implies that 81 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.959 there is a oughtness, there is something that you should 82 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.040 do or should not do, And if there is something 83 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.839 that you should do and should not do, there is 84 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.920 going to be a reward or a consequence. That's in everything. 85 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:28.879 That's not unreasonable. If you build something wrong, it falls apart. 86 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.920 If you say something wrong, it's not understood. If you 87 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:40.439 reject the medicine, you die. I know that people run 88 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.680 around saying that the concept of God is a fairy tale, 89 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:47.639 But what is a fairy tale is the desire to 90 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:53.240 believe that there is no consequences. The fairy tale is 91 00:05:53.480 --> 00:06:00.399 that you don't need the medicine and you'll self heal. Yet, 92 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.920 when somebody does it in the spiritual sense, when somebody 93 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.439 in the spiritual world says, you know what you get 94 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.279 in now, I'm reducing and using reductionism. I'm reducing the 95 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:20.079 universalist's belief for the sake of conversation. But really it 96 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:26.000 has no place in the Bible at all. The Bible 97 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:33.279 talks about reward and consequence, and the punishment of hell 98 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.720 is where people get confused. It's not as much about 99 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.439 being punished as it is God allowing you to go 100 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.600 to a place that you've chosen to go. You've said 101 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.759 I want to go here. I want to be in 102 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.319 a place where God isn't because I have rejected that 103 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.240 God for the entirety of my life. You want to 104 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.240 know hell to a person who has rejected God and 105 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:58.519 doesn't want to be with God for the seventy eighty 106 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.199 ninety measly years you're on. You know what hell is 107 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.720 to somebody who rejects God. Hell would be heaven to 108 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.639 sit with God and be in his present and worship 109 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:13.439 him for eternity. So God, out of his love, allows 110 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:18.360 you to reject Him to the point of death and 111 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:20.879 go to a place where his salvation is no longer. 112 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.399 The pain of hell is knowing, is now knowing what 113 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.480 you already knew, that you need God, but you rejected it. 114 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:35.399 But it's done. Universalism is the equivalent of picking up 115 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.000 a loaded gun, pointing at another human being, shooting them, 116 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.399 and then somehow saying, you know what, I can see 117 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.839 that they're dead. Now I don't want that consequence. I 118 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.839 want to do over. I want that bullet back and 119 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.399 it's not going to happen. You're smarter than that. You 120 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.360 know more than that. It's not based on ignorance. It's 121 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:07.480 based on rejection, and there's a difference. Norma, Welcome to 122 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:12.360 the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, Hi, well, yes, do you 123 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:12.879 have a question. 124 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:18.199 Oh yes, My question is reading the Harry Potter books, 125 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:22.519 which is grand My granddaughter wants to start reading them. 126 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.720 Is that letting the devil in because of the contents 127 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:27.519 of the books? 128 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:35.639 Oh, No, more so than reading Tolkien or reading C. S. Lewis, 129 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.720 The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Really, it's it's 130 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.919 about context and the child understanding. There might be a 131 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:44.080 point where a child might be too young for them 132 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.679 and they should always be explained and if you, you know, 133 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.879 have good parents, set of parents that are willing to explain. Well, 134 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.279 this is fantasy, but some of those fantasy things that 135 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.799 are talked about are concerns to us as Christians. If 136 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.240 it's a Christian household, and talk about those and explain those. 137 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.600 I think that it that it's perfectly fine. It's like 138 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.399 anything else. It's a it's a wonderland. And then there's 139 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.639 people that say, well C. S. Lewis always had the 140 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.240 backdrop of Christianity, but you wouldn't know that. You wouldn't 141 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:14.639 know it if you weren't a believer, if you weren't 142 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.559 a Christian, you'd be reading it that it's dealing with, 143 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:22.480 you know, mystical lands and mystical creatures and all of 144 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.320 these things. So really it's about you putting it in 145 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.480 the context and protecting yourself that way, and if there's 146 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.759 something questionable in it, explain why it's questionable, and set 147 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:35.200 an age limit if you'd like for for the children 148 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.039 to read it. There are some some things in the 149 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:42.120 Harry Potter series that I think a little interesting for 150 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.960 the younger set and probably not the best for them 151 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.799 to consume. But there's other things that I think teach 152 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.519 a lot about friendship and loyalty and right and wrong, 153 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.200 and those are those are wonderful principles no matter how 154 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.279 they're seated. You just have to take the time to 155 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.039 know what your children or reading and explain it to them. 156 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:07.240 Now, what about the spells and the connototionans that they say, 157 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.240 I've heard that those are real spells? Is that correct? 158 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.799 Well, there are people that make those claims, and there 159 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.159 might be some sort of ties to There's things that 160 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.000 I hear people say over and over as believers sometimes 161 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.720 that I tell them, Hey, there's Scripture says not to 162 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.759 pray anything over and over in a chant or some 163 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.759 sort of mantra or anything like that. I would say, 164 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:37.360 when if there are spells and incantations that you're concerned about, 165 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.960 then you make them known and you explained to the 166 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:45.120 child as to what they are and why it is 167 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.919 not a part of that household. But there are things, 168 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.879 for instance, there are things that are said and described 169 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.080 in scripture that are not prescribed. They would not be 170 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.679 something that a Christian should do. Even I said at 171 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.399 one point, don't use the word raka, which was a 172 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.960 dirty word. Now I said it, but I was saying 173 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.480 it in a context not to say it. So there, 174 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:12.960 and there's even Paul even quotes non Christian sources at 175 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.639 times that are quoted now in scripture. So it's a 176 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.480 matter really of context. It's very easy for people to get, 177 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.000 you know, fly off the handle and say, oh, it's 178 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.039 evil and this and that. Am I thrilled about that? 179 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:25.240 No? 180 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:30.279 I think a lot of that stuff, the incantations and stuff, 181 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.360 give children a false understanding of how the world works. 182 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.559 But it is fantasy, and as long as you tell 183 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.360 them and explain to them, that part is fantasy. But 184 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.320 there are people that believe in witchcraft, and there are 185 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:45.399 people that believe that this is going to change their life. 186 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.120 That is not the way we work in this family. 187 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:50.200 And this is why I think is a legitimate jumping 188 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:55.919 off point into the conversation that witchcraft exists, and there 189 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:59.120 are those, and there's arguments people going between white witchcraft 190 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.639 and black witchcraft, to white magic and black magic and 191 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.159 all that. You know, are you a good witch or 192 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.720 are you a bad witch? And all this business. Scripturally, 193 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.159 it's all the same, regardless of the person's heart, it's 194 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:14.879 all the same. No to witchcraft across the board, to incantations, 195 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.840 to casting spells, all of that across the board. Bad 196 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.279 Scripture does not contone and condone it. But there's going 197 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.440 to be stories of it, and there's even stories of 198 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:26.519 it in scripture, And if you made a movie of scripture, 199 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.919 there'd be so much stuff that Christians couldn't even see. 200 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:33.639 Yet it's in the Bible. So really it's not about 201 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.759 whether they come in contact with it or not. It's 202 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.799 whether you explain it well enough and that they have 203 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.240 a good understanding of what it is in their life 204 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:50.039 and how it affects them. Unice, Welcome to the Jesus 205 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:50.600 Christ Show. 206 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:52.559 Good morning, Hi, how. 207 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:52.960 Can I help you? 208 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.799 Okay, I have a question and my question is in 209 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.360 disconnected to the question that lady asked about it Harry 210 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.759 Potter Show. I know that man lives in the body 211 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.440 and man has spirit. 212 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.519 And so m well, there, it depends on Some people 213 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:14.559 say that there's there's a difference what they call dichotomists 214 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:18.480 and trichotomists. A dichotomist believes in the flesh and the spirit. 215 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.759 A trichotomists would say there's flesh, spirit and soul. But 216 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:23.559 some people see them as different things. 217 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.279 So just to clarify which, okay. 218 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.840 Well, it depends on where you stand. Theologically. Most Christians 219 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.639 tend to be dichotomists, meaning that they believe in the 220 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.799 flesh and the immaterial part, which is considered the spirit 221 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.399 of the soul. Okay, so what what is your question? 222 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:43.639 Okay? My question then, is you say that the lady 223 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:47.240 asks you if it's okay to read the Harry's Potter, 224 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:51.519 the Harry Potter's books and whatever personal I have not 225 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.639 I have asked a Christian. I've made up my mind. 226 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:57.120 I don't watch the movies, I don't read it. I 227 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.200 believe that I have to protect goes through my eyes, 228 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.679 through my mind, and through my ears agree, and I 229 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.559 also try to encourage people around me not to do that. 230 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.919 So my question is, how do we protect ourselves from 231 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:17.320 those influences of evil, say, through the movie, through books 232 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.080 like Harry Potters, and through what people say. 233 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.039 First of all, the most important thing, and people don't 234 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.120 understand this about scripture either, is no simply the difference 235 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:34.600 between prescriptive and descriptive language. There's a difference between describing 236 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:38.240 something that happens. The Bible itself is the most vulgar, 237 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:44.559 the most violent book that you will ever read. There 238 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:49.080 is perversions among perversions in scripture, like you've never ever 239 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:54.919 heard about bestiality, all kinds of ugliness, but it's not 240 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:59.720 prescribing them. It's describing that they're taking place. Okay, so 241 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.000 you want to read about incantations and stuff like that 242 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.360 that exists in scripture. It talks about sorcery in scripture. 243 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:10.360 It talks about witchcraft in scripture. It talks about those things. 244 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.960 So what you don't want is anything that is prescribing. 245 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:19.200 You should do this. Also, if it's prescribing it, then 246 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:23.200 absolutely you put it aside or you read it academically 247 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.399 as an adult. And what I mean by that is 248 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.759 that there are going to be some people that you know, 249 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.240 there's some people that have better physical balance than others, 250 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.120 and they may be an acrobat, but your average person 251 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.960 can't do that well spiritually. There are people that have 252 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.559 different strengths and weaknesses as well, and there are some 253 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.320 people units I wouldn't have get near certain things because 254 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.519 it's not in their spirit to do so. The fact 255 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.919 that you limit yourself shows me that you're a mature 256 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.000 Christian who says, this is not what I want in 257 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:55.759 my life. Period. It may be okay for me to 258 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.759 read I may have the liberty in Christ to read it, 259 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.600 but I'm not going to And you need to have 260 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.360 that discernment and that ability, which is why I tell 261 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:09.320 parents to be active and participatory in their children's life, 262 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:15.559 especially the things that they read and consume in life, 263 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:20.559 because it seems that parents barely watch what their children 264 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.720 are consuming physically with food, let alone the spiritual and 265 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.799 the intellectual. Having said that, the way you would defend 266 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.720 yourself where the Christian would defend themselves is really Ephesians 267 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.919 breaks it down in Ephesian six about putting on the 268 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:41.799 full armor of God and having being girded in your 269 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.879 loins with the truth, so everything is bound by the 270 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.600 truth first and foremost, saying, having put on the breastplate 271 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.039 of righteousness, that the very core of who you are 272 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.159 should be based on doing the right thing as you 273 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:58.759 understand it. As Scripture says, there is a truth and 274 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:02.879 it is universal. Should be living life based on that righteousness, 275 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.599 not on what you know will get you this, or 276 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.319 what will get you that, or what the quick way 277 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.480 is or what the you know the easier way. It's 278 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:15.119 about doing the right thing, having your feet shod with 279 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.960 the preparation of the Gospel of peace. So your your 280 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.920 very footing should be based on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. 281 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:24.079 That should be the very footing of everything. And then 282 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.079 it goes on to say and then taking on the 283 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.880 helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which 284 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.200 is the word of God. So those are the things 285 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.519 that you protect yourself with. And if in using those things, 286 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.559 you come to the decision, I do not want to 287 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.759 participate in this, or I do not want to participate 288 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:43.200 in that, so be it. Then do not keep that 289 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.759 protect yourself from that. If you know where your strengths 290 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.839 and weaknesses lie. But it doesn't mean that another Christian 291 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.920 might have different strength, and it might not bother them. 292 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:57.680 Because somebody has to read these things and see these 293 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.839 movies to tell you not to read them or see them. 294 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.160 But that's exactly why I'm asking a question. But here's 295 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.799 a lady who is asking I haven't gone to any 296 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.119 theological school whatever done in the studies. I would say 297 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:13.680 bluntly that I went to the school of the Holy Spirit. 298 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:15.640 Like I listened to the Word of God. I opened 299 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.440 my heart to God. I love God with my heart, 300 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:22.160 my soul, and my spirit. So I've just learned whatever 301 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.039 I talked my beliefs through my experiences with God and 302 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.759 the Holy Spirit. But to me, the lady who asked 303 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.079 the question, you are on the radio and we're asking 304 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.160 all these questions. That means you haven't understanding and you 305 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.359 were in position to answer all these questions. She asked 306 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:41.079 her child wants to read the Harry's Potter, the Harry 307 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:46.039 Potter's book. So I would just know that she has 308 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.519 not reached that point where she would say draw the 309 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.759 line and say no, I have children. I would tell 310 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.799 my child. If my child is living in my house 311 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:56.400 and he wants to read the Harry Potter, I would 312 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.640 say no, and I'll tell her the reasons why I 313 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.440 don't want my child to do that, because I believe 314 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.720 in I agree and believe in everything that you have 315 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.839 just told me about ehisions. But some people are not 316 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:07.519 there yet. 317 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.279 Okay, but that's part of the growing process units and 318 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.160 they still you still need that. I'm here for three 319 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.920 hours on a Sunday, and they're only going to be 320 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:21.240 able to ask me in this context in this way 321 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.559 those questions at that time. People need to build their strength. 322 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.400 And what I want to do and what the purpose 323 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.319 of the show is is to give them those tools 324 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:30.680 to the best of the ability of the time. That 325 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.759 we have to give them tools to be able to 326 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:35.119 take with them. And that doesn't mean and I know 327 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.480 the Church is really great on this. The Church wants 328 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.880 to continue to say do this, don't do that. But 329 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:43.079 there are but there are some things in scripture where 330 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.319 it doesn't say, and you're going to have to use 331 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.920 that discernment. How much of that wine becomes being buzzed 332 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:53.720 or being drunk is going to be different on the individual. 333 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:57.000 So if I said only drink half an ounce that 334 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.319 that doesn't play for everyone, and in this case it 335 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:03.359 wouldn't neither. The mother, the parent in this case is 336 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:07.559 going to have to play a part. And I say 337 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.519 that is reading it, understanding it, and participating in your 338 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:17.000 child's consumption of it. That's a healthy rule across the 339 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:22.519 board for all books, not just that, but Christians tend 340 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.920 to feel comfortable with certain things because they feel comfortable. 341 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.559 It's social, it's cultural, whatever it is. And that is 342 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.680 where I think there's a problem, because if you say, 343 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.400 well C. S. Lewis was a Christian, therefore his fantasy 344 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:38.880 books are okay, even though they may have this, that 345 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.200 and the other, yet these are not I think that's 346 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:47.599 a good rule of thumb. But just because someone's a 347 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.599 Christian doesn't mean they're going to be good at other 348 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.279 things or that there isn't going to be something in there. 349 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:58.519 So ultimately, outside of scripture its own self, you should 350 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.960 be explaining and understanding and parsing these things with your children. 351 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.880 And to make the fantasy of Harry Potter out to 352 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:10.720 be the devil, I think causes major problems. And usually 353 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.079 it comes from people not wanting to understand it or 354 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:16.839 read it for themselves or take the time to read 355 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.240 it with their children, so they just say no to 356 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.519 all of it. And if that's your choice, that's fine. 357 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.799 I'm saying that is not the only choice. There are 358 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:28.279 ways to look at these things, and to even take 359 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.119 lessons out of them all. Truth is God's truth. Now 360 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:35.039 what I prefer you get it through a purer source. 361 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.799 You're not having to, you know, have the sense of 362 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:41.920 an old cow and eat the hay and leave the sticks. Yeah, 363 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.640 but I have met many wonderful, wonderful, godly children who 364 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.039 are caught up by the characters in the fantasy and 365 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:55.079 not the witchcraft, and they should be allowed, in the 366 00:21:55.119 --> 00:22:00.359 context of parental guidance, to explore those things. Otherwise, the 367 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:05.359 repression of those things causes a gross curiosity that when 368 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.599 the child gets of an age where they're allowed to 369 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.319 read or do whatever they want, they go in whole 370 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.920 hog head over heels and start seeing it from a 371 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.480 much less fantasy point and now is a more practical point, 372 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.119 and you get people dabbling in witchcraft, whereas a child 373 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.079 who's seeing it as pure fantasy less likely to if 374 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.039 it's explained to them. So the balance of these things 375 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:38.039 is what I want. Jason, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 376 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:43.119 Yes, I was just wondering. I read through the Bible 377 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:48.119 on several times and talk to several ministers, and each 378 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.960 time I talked to a minister, I get a different answer, 379 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:58.720 and the point being if who goes to if sinners 380 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.480 goes to hell. But we're all taunt that we are sinners. 381 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:06.759 Romans three twenty three says all of sin and falling 382 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.759 short of the glory of God. 383 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:12.160 Absolutely, So how do we if we're all sinners and 384 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:16.839 sinners go to hell? How is that going to work out? 385 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:22.759 Well, there needs to be somebody who's a mediary, somebody 386 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:27.599 who between you and the Father can vouch for you 387 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.200 or pay for the cost of sin. 388 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:33.680 You have. 389 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.480 In Matthew one twenty one, it says she will give 390 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.400 birth to a son, and you are to give him 391 00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:42.000 the name Jesus because he will save his people from 392 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:42.640 their sins. 393 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:46.799 I understand that, okay. 394 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.680 And then you find in Hebrews five nine, and once 395 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.000 made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for 396 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:58.920 all who obey him. So you're starting to see kind 397 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:03.799 of a pattern here as to what that means. Acts 398 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.400 four twelve says salvation is found in no one else, 399 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.480 for there is no other name under heaven given to 400 00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.799 mankind by which we must be saved. So imagine it 401 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:19.759