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much for your support. All righty, so just got through

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watching the live press conference that was held in Dallas, Texas.

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After I guess it was probably about three and a

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half hours ago, a shooter opened fire on an ice facility,

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killing two injuring a third before turning the gun on

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himself as agents approached the building upon the roof of

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which he took the shots. According to reports, there is

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at this point it's unconfirmed. I saw Carol Markowitz I

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think is her name, at the New York Post. She

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had gotten this from a source that the shooter has

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been identified as a twenty nine year old. And I

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don't name these people, so I mean obviously they've you know,

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they're going to be able to identify him. They have

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identified them, according to Markowitz's or Mankowitz Markowitz anyway, I

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closed out her tweet about the topic. At the press conference,

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they said that this was targeted violence and that bullets

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found on the rooftop. This was a picture that FBI

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Director Cash Patel tweeted out. There was a photo of

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I think about eight rounds and they had anti ICE

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messages written on the casings. Yeah, so we may never

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know what motivated this shooter. The three that were shot, well,

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two that were killed, one that was injured, were all

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ICE detainees. They were either I'm unclear if they were

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in a transport van and being unloaded, if they were

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outside of the van or what. Here's the associated press.

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Three people, including detainees, have been shot at an ICE

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Immigration Customs enforcement facility in Dallas, and the shooter is

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dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound. Homeland Security spokesperson

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Tricia McLaughlin later told Fox News no ICE agents were injured.

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The FBI said during a news conference that it was

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investigating the shooting as an act of targeted violence. Officers

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respond to a call to assist an officer on North

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Stemmens Freeway around six forty am Local time, and the

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preliminary investigation determined that a person opened fire at a

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government building from an adjacent building. Dallas Fire Rescue Department

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was also dispatched after a call reporting a shooting. Parkland

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Hospital received two patients from the shooting. The third person

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was dead at the scene. Dozens of emergency vehicles seen

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along the highway near the facility. It's along I thirty

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five east, just southwest of Dallas love Field, large commercial

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airports serving Dallas Fort Worth metro area. Traffic cameras near

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the scene showed six lanes of a normally busy freeway

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empty with cars in semi trailers ground to a halt

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on an interstate exit. At this point, they say motive

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remains unclear, because of course it does. We have I mean,

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this is just three hours, three and a half hours

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after the shooting, and so, as I do in all

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of these types of events, we should just wait a

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little bit. We don't need to rush in and make

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predictions and say, oh, I know what happened. I have

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a pretty look to me, like I have some ideas

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about what we just saw, too. I have some pretty

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solid guesses. I think that doesn't make them anything more

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than that they are guesses. I do note the silence

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coming from the experts in stochastic terrorism. This is not

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the first ICE facility that has been targeted. There was

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another shooting that occurred at a different ICE facility, I believe,

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yeah this one. So it is mentioned in the AP

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story that there was a July fourth attack at a

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Texas immigration detention center. It injured a police officer who

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was shot in the neck. Attackers dressed in black military

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style clothing who dresses like that, opened fire outside the

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Prairie Land Detention Center in Alvarado, which is southwest of Dallas.

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Eleven people charged in connection with that attack Antifa. They

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were ANTIFA. A man with an assault rifle fired dozens

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of rounds at federal agents as they were leaving a

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US Border Patrol facility in McCallan, Texas on July seventh.

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That man identified injured a police officer who responded to

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the scene before authority shot and killed him. So that

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guy's dead. That shooter was dead. Police later found weaponry, ammunition,

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and backpacks inside of his car. So the evidence that

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we know right now, the fact that somebody would gain

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access to a rooftop across the street or across a freeway,

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maybe from or an adjacent building at the least of

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an ICE facility and open fire on personnel at the facility.

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But more importantly, it's the writing on the bullet casings,

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making sure everybody knows why the assassin did this. They

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are opposed to ICE or were They were obviously not

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happy about immigration Customs Enforcement removing people from the country,

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and to show his contempt and disdain for ICE, he

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murdered two detainees to illegal immigrants injured a third. There

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was a piece at the Washington Examiner by John Schindler,

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and he served with the NSSAY, the National Security Agency,

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and as a senior intelligence analyst and a counterintelligence officer.

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He writes, I think it's a blog called twenty Committee,

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and I forget what the meaning of that is. But

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he had a write up at the Washington Examiner after,

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you know, Donald Trump announced the other day that he

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was going to designate Antifa as a what do they

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call it, like a dangerous terrorist organization or a major

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terrorist organization, something like that. And at the time when

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I relayed that information to you, I said, like, I'm

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not really sure what this designation means. Because there isn't

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an official designation that he is citing. And what Shindler

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is recommending is that Trump go ahead and name it

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as a foreign terrorist organization because that is what it is.

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And if you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe the

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European nations that have been banning Antifa in their countries

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because they know the history of Antifa. You may not

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the people who sign up for this and get radicalized

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by they may not, but the Europeans know, they remember

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what antifa is all about. So Shindler writes that much

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of this ideology falls under the rubric of antifa or

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quote anti fascism, a loose anti capitalist movement possessing cells

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against the West that agitates for quote unquote woke Bolshevism.

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There's a clue in there. It's not the woke word,

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it's the other one, Bolshevism. While it's increasing amalgamation with

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the extremist LGBT activists has been termed trantifa. The White

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House has already promised to ban Antifa as a terrorist organization,

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with the President castigating it as a terrorist group. Executing

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a ban presents legal challenges, though, although the government has

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banned certain foreign terrorist organizations since nineteen ninety seven, including

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Al Qaeda, Hamas Hezbala. The challenge is that, as the

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name implies, foreign terrorist organizations must be foreign. At present,

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there exists no mechanism to ban domestic groups that embrace

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violence to further their political aims. But what if Antifa

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is a foreign terrorist organization? And he says there's solid

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evidence for the assertion. So when I was a kid,

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got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and

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not much support for caregivers and family. But things are

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supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot

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to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk. Russ in a message on Twitter, says,

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the biggest problem with your wait a while approach Pete

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to these incidents is that it makes it so much

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harder to say, hey, this totally proves my preconceived notions

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when you have to make actual evidence support your claims.

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That's true, that's fair, that's true. However, on the upside,

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you don't get locked into a position before you know

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all the facts, right because like, for example, if I

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were to, I don't know, make a guess, if I

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were to articulate my guess, I'm going to say, radicalized leftist,

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twenty nine year old white dude, loser at life, hooked

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up to an online culture that told him his anger

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and rage directed outward at their perceived enemies, gave him

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the permission structure to go and try to kill a

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bunch of ICE agents. He is a terrible shot, missed

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and hit three illegal immigrants who were in the process

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of being deported, thereby murdering two and injuring a third

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the people that he was supposed to be protecting, once

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again proving he was a loser. So like that would

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be my guess. And if I were to take another

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guess at it, and again this is just coming from

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you know, twenty five years of experience in covering these

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types of events, I would have to guess that probably

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the permission structure that was erected over the last oh,

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I don't know, eight years or so about how ICE

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is a bunch of fascists, Gestapo Nazis. SS officers just

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following orders probably helped, you know, give him the assurances,

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the permission to go about this attack because he felt

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like everybody was encouraging him to do so and he

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would be remembered as a martyr for the court, for

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the cause just a guess. See, Now here's the thing.

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If I were to actually articulate this, if I were

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to say this, like on the radio or something, then

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if it came out that, you know, evidence presented otherwise

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it turned out he was not all of that stuff,

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and he was not radicalized, and he wasn't hooked up

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with these leftists online and stuff, then it would be

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you know, I'd have to admit that. Okay, I was

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wrong in my speculation in the immediate aftermath of the

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of the attack. But luckily I have not articulated this

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kind of a thing. I've not planted a flag here,

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you know, which brings me back to Antifa. On John

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Schindler's piece at the Washington Examiner, what if Antifa is

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a foreign terrorist organization? There's actually solid evidence for this assertion.

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Born in the nineteen thirties Germany on the orders of

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the fiery but mostly peaceful Joseph Stalin, did you know

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that about Antifa? On the orders of Stalin under the

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leadership of the German Communist Party, Antifa, in its DNA,

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is a violent revolutionary organization. With good reason. Berlin deems

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Antifa an extremist threat to democracy. Germany's domestic intelligence agency

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recently noted a sharp rise in Antifa related violence, observing

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that the potential threat posed by violent left wing extremism

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remains high. American liberals, including top Democrats, habitually pretend that

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Antifa is a myth or as Joe Biden called it,

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I believe it's an idea. It's just an idea. There's

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no organized group. It's not an organization. I mean, yes, fine,

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they have websites and Twitter handles, and they do meetups

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and print out materials and recruit people and give action

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plans and assemble and do direct action and dress alike

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and coordinate. But that doesn't make an organization. It's an idea. People. Yeah, Berlin,

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where Antifa was born, They're not so easily fooled by

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this crap. Okay, I'm not either. Anybody who has paid

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any attention to antifah and has done any modicum of

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research knows that it is in fact an organization. Just

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because some of the local cells aren't as organized as

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others doesn't make it just an idea. Right. This is

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not some myth cooked up by overheated Republican imaginations. Schindler

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says there are demonstrable connections between Antifa cells in the

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US and those in Western countries. Democrats have poo pooed

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Trump's push against Antifa as mere political theater, but multiple

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NATO partners agree with the White House. Hungary and the

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Netherlands are following Trump's lead, and other US allies are

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expected to do the same. Antifa is a transnational extremist

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group that endorses terrorism, and it's time we confronted it.

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I'm not gas lit on this. I refuse to be.

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Don't whiz on my boots and tell me it's raining.

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The financial and look, anybody who spends any bit of

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time in the political milieu up in Ashville knows Antifa exists.

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The financial dimension is key, however, because however much Antifa

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activists hate capitalism, the revolution requires cash. Oh irony of ironies,

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Trump has promised to pursue left wing donors, including famous

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ones like George and Alex Soros. That Alex is George's

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son who's taken over the criminal opera. I mean the

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organization even looking with looking at criminal charges under the

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RICO Act, the Racketeer, Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, which

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is employed by the FBI against gangsters, terrorists, and money launderers.

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RICO is a powerful tool for the Justice Department, but

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the drag net must be extended beyond just the Soroses.

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You have an entire web of NGOs that have been

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funding this stuff. See this is why Democrats want to

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just dismiss it as merely an idea. It's because they

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benefit from the radical street troops, the quote direct action, right.

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They benefit from the at least they think they did.

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They may not so much anymore. They may be waking

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up and realizing this is actually not helping us. There's

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convincing evidence. Also, get this that Cuban intelligence is materially

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supporting Trantifa radicalism in the US. That I did not

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know that, Schindler says. It's not surprising since Havana essentially

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created the Black Lives Matter movement a decade ago. One

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Utah trantifa extremist group called Armed Queer's Salt Lake City,

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which by the way, scrubbed its social media after the

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Kirk assassination, was openly affiliated with the Cuban regime, including

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its enthusiastic participation in Havana led activities known to be

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controlled by Cuban intelligence. I've said this for a while,

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the Left has a violence problem. Democrats need to police themselves.

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They need to expel these elements from their political party

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jump over to the phones. We'll chat with Frank. Hello, Frank,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, Hey, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm all right. How are you so?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 2: So you know I'm a longtime listener. I don't call

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it a lot, but I called Vince a couple of times.

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We're good.

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Speaker 1: It's not a contest, Frank, it's not a contest. You

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can call both of us.

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Speaker 2: I know you all are beautiful. Hey, listen. Uh, you

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know they're gonna bust or Jimmy Kimmel's gonna bust this

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person for being such a big as shot, so he

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must be on our shot.

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Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, I mean they could make that argument

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or something. Yeah, I don't know. I doubt they'll even

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pay any attention to crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the information that has come out so

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quickly about the messages that were written on the bullets,

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I'm thinking it's going to short circuit any kind of

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preempt preemptive sort of offensive from the left on.

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Speaker 3: The exactly because antifa means anti fata or anti fascists,

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whatever you want. To call it, it's all hate. So

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we're going to leave it that way and we'll take

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care of the hate.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sir.

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Speaker 1: All right, Frank, I appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean

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it's it's there is always a race to set in

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place the narrative. And this is why you ended up

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with Jimmy Kimmel, as Frank just mentioned him saying what

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he said a week ago that got him indefinitely suspended

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for five days, which back in my day, an indefinite

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suspension lasted more than half a scaramoucci. But whatever, I know,

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I'm old, I guess. But antifa is a thing. It

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is an organization. They do organize, They have meetings, they

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do planning stuff. They give each other tips, and they

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share strategies and tactics and calls to arms and such.

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And when you have an institutional media apparatus that amplifies

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things like this. The accusation that Ice used a five

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year old girl as bait in order to capture a

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criminal illegal alien, and that wasn't true, but NBC News

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reported it is true. And what the actual story, according

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to Homeland Security, was that the criminal illegal alien was

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the target of an operation with previous arrests for domestic abuse, strangulation,

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vandalizing property, and he abandoned his own child in the car.

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The kid was not used as bait. The guy left

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the kid, left the baby, and ran out of the car.

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He was from Guatemala. He ignored law enforcement emergency lights

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darted inside of his house, abandoning his five year old

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daughter in the car. Officers helped rescue the child and

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called local police to report the abandonment. But the way

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NBC News reported it, headline ice held five year old

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autistic girl in Massachusetts to pressure father to surrender, according

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to his family, and then a day later you get

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an attack on an ICE facility. Back to the John

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Schindler piece at the Washington Examiner, he says it is

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best to think of ANTIFA as the armed wing of

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the Democratic Socialists of America, the left wing group that's

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successfully taken over much of the Democrat Party. The time

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to confront this difficult reality is now. The Trump administration

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must declare Antifa a foreign terrorist organization, cutting off its

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funding at home and abroad via sanctions before this crisis

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gets worse. May jump over to the WBT text line

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Driven by Liberty Buick gmc anonymous says, does anybody remember

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Occupy Wall Street whatever happened to them? Well, yeah, it's

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the same. It's what we're seeing was just a different

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iteration of that same ideology, right, the tenttifada that occurred

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on the college campuses against Israel, you know, the you know,

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pro Hamas Holais and such. The issue is never the issue.

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The issue is always the revolution, right, and so that's

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why it's like they just swap out whatever the issue

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of the day is because it doesn't matter. The issue

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is actually the revolution. That's why Antifa with roots and

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communists Russia, right, that's why they lend themselves their services

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to whatever the what Ben Shapiro calls the omni cause,

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just you know, whatever they need to protest. They're down

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with Black Lives Matter, We're there, Queers for Palestine, We're

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totally there. Doesn't because it doesn't matter. The only point

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is to sow chaos and tear down Western civilization and

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the evil capitalist society and replace it with the utopia.

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Mark says, all protests seem to be organized. I say,

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we need to follow the money. George s I'm sure

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they can show that he funded a lot of organizations

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for protesters. They could charge him with RICO. A lot

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of the protests are violent. Rico would be perfect for

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charging him. Joseph says, if we went broken windows and

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locked them up for attacking government facilities or assaulting federal agents,

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we wouldn't have to wait until they started shooting. The

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same people protesting ice facilities are the same ones who

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rioted in twenty twenty, and are the same ones who

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attacked Atlanta's Cop City and then assassinated Charlie Kirk. They're

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all the same. So it's funny you mentioned the broken

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windows idea because I came across a piece I had

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it in the show prep stack for today. It's over

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at the Civitas Institute Civitas Institute dot org, written by

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tal Fort Gang who who is a legal policy fellow

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at the Manhattan Institute, and the headline is the broken

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Windows in American higher education. But it does have a

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more far reaching impact than just the university.

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a little known Jewish sage called ben assea as i anyway,

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he challenged his students in a message memorialized in the

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Ancient Ethical Guide known as something I cannot pronounce per

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ki avot anyway. He said, be quick in performing a

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minor commandment, as in the case of a major one.

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Fallible human beings cannot know which obligations are small and

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which are large, both in God's eyes and in the

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greater scheme of human events. What appears trivial may hold

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a community together. What seems like a minor failure may

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open the way to collapse. The sociologists James Q. Wilson

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and George Kelling gave that ancient lesson a modern expression

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in their famous yet widely misunderstood nineteen eighty two article

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Broken Windows. They argued that small signs of disorder, like graffiti, vandalism,

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public intoxication, those small signs signal a lack of enforcement,

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which in turn invites greater violations. When norms are not upheld,

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the boundaries of acceptable behavior blur, and soon serious crime follows.

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Many commentators have noted that the assassination of Charlie Kirk

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is a massive escalation in our simmering culture war and

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another in a rapidly growing pattern of political violence. But

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because the escalation was so enormous, many have lost sight

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of the fact that his murder is also the last

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of a pattern of lawless attempts to prevent Kirk and

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similar figures from sharing their mesas messages. In that light,

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it is a stark demonstration of the broken windows principle.

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Kirk had a long record of making appearances in contentious settings.

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He had been targeted with hostility for years. His events

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drew heckling and organized attempts to shut him down. His

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organization regularly had its campus booths defaced, ambassadors harassed, and

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events canceled because the university could not guarantee security. Charlie

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Kirk and Turning Point USA were hardly the first to

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suffer such mistreatment on campus. Charles Murray, Alison Stanger, David Horowitz,

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and Colter Bill Crystal EO. Wilson. I would add Ben Shapiro,

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dozens of Israeli diplomats can all attest to the harassment

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and violence that heterodox speakers endured. None of those acts

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of opposition was ever acceptable, but they were accepted rarely,

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if ever, faced expulsion or social sanction. I've been talking

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about this for a while. This is the permission structure

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that has been built up over years. He points out

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in this piece that the guilt obviously belongs to Charlie

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Kirk's killer, but it would also be willful blindness to

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fail to note that this was yet another attempt to

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shut him up. And some significant portion of a portion

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of young people think that violence is an acceptable means

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to do so when more common forms of lawless disruption fail.

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A college that tolerates harassment signals to students that harassment

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is within the bounds of acceptable behavior. A university that

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treats vandalism as minor signals that property rights are not

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worth defending. Over time, students learn that certain rules are

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not enforced. That knowledge then alters their expectations, but more importantly,

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it molds their character. It frames the moral universe they inhabit.

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See rules, whether they are imposed by law or the

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Office of Student Life, rules are formative. They teach us

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what is expected of us. A well run institution does

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not simply prohibit extremes of behavior. It inculcates habits of

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self control, restraint, mutual respect. When administrators fail to enforce

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those rules, institutions fail in their formative role because they

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fail to communicate that they think living by the rules

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really matters, that being the kind of person that the

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rules expect is really any better than being the kind

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that flouts expectations. They do not produce responsible citizens, but

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permissive ones who assume norms are optional. This is exactly

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the same problem. Writ large. It's not just on the

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college CAMPI, it's through society, it is through our criminal

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justice system. In the next hour, I'm going to get

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into the debate that occurred in the North Carolina House

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over Arena's Law, named after Arena Zarutzka. Right, The shards

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of broken windows are also present in the cycle of

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demonstrations and doubtrage since October seventh, twenty twenty three. Occupations

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of administrative offices, vandalism of buildings, disruptions of lectures, harassment

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of faculty members. These are all violations of school rules,

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and they have been met with little more than slaps

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on the wrist. Students student groups vow then to escalate.

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They know full well that the rules are optional. What

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constrains them? What distinctions do they make between breaking rules,

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destroying your property, or destroying your body? Right? Hopefully it's

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something more than an internal moral code, because like they

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say that violence against political opponents is acceptable, So we

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can't trust that moral code. Broken windows at a societal scale,

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all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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