WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:12.720 Welcome to the Cult of Cryptis. Strange encounters of frogs 2 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.280 and Lizards, dumb my nick Children, DoD Man, Bigfoot, Mockman 3 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:22.559 and all their victims. Murray pictures captured by shot witness, 4 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:27.559 ufloes breaking laws of physics, Pictures of aliens. 5 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:30.839 Carving the high rogue lyphics. This is a bizarre world 6 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:34.560 that we live in. So sit back, relax, laugh. 7 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:40.159 And listen because we're here to talk about some cryptics. 8 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:47.280 This is Tom Thompson Castenos the Raptilian from Strange Group Podcast, 9 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.640 and we're here I called the Conspiracy to talk about 10 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:56.200 some bizarre and strange things. So strap in for this 11 00:00:56.399 --> 00:01:01.320 mild and hilarious ride. Now to the show, everybody. The 12 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:07.079 curtains are open, we're checking tickets at the door. It's 13 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:09.519 about to get strange. 14 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:17.560 Everybody here, Jon, what's going on. I'm ironing Class Horror 15 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.439 cast or first class Horror. We're gonna do something a 16 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.159 little bit different this time, and we're going to I 17 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.799 guess break down and analyze the movie The Witch, something 18 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.480 that I actually wanted to do for a long time, 19 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:35.439 but it was only on your I guess recommendation again, Tom, 20 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.599 that I kind of actually sat down and went, actually, wait, yeah, 21 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:40.599 this movie is like a lot better and a lot 22 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.560 fucking scarier than I gave a credit and then just 23 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.319 some lores around and witches and stuff. I'm joined by 24 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.519 a very special guest who I am not going to 25 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:54.319 butcher his usual introduction. So, why didn't you tell everybody 26 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:54.719 who you are? 27 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.079 I am Tom kat aka Tom Thompson or the Raptilian, 28 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.439 whatever you want to call I could care less, but 29 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.879 I am one of the hosts of Strange Root podcasts, 30 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.680 and essentially Aaron I'm like now I believe is under 31 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.000 the umbrella too of the host heads production and he's 32 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.000 kind of part of Strange Root podcast now also as 33 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.680 one of the hosts because we've been doing a lot 34 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.319 of content together and I'm super excited excited about this 35 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.919 and I'll tell you, uh specifically why this movie unnerved me, 36 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:27.560 and I'm especially on my second viewing. I remember seeing 37 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.840 it a couple of years ago. I swore that my 38 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.360 girlfriend saw it, but she was like, we watched it. 39 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.960 She was like, no, I don't remember this, And didn't 40 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.560 you say was this your first time? I thought you said, 41 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:41.960 or did you have you seen it before? And then 42 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:43.240 gave it another visit. 43 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.759 Yeah, like I had, I say, I watched it. It was 44 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.039 one of those things I remember everybody talking about it 45 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:51.039 and like I put it on and like seeing bits 46 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.319 of the movie, Like I know that I probably watched 47 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.280 the entire runtime but hadn't actually seen majority of us. 48 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.840 Yeah, it's a fucking spooky film. Yeah, and it's and 49 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:07.360 I so when I started watching The Witch essentially, like 50 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.520 I saw it a couple of years ago, and then 51 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.080 I was like, you know what, it'd be really good 52 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.759 film to watch outside. I'm watching a lot of horror movies. 53 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.879 For all the people that are a fan of your show. 54 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.759 I love horror movies, always have, always will, And throughout 55 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:24.240 the summer you have a projector and stuff like that. 56 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.840 So I've been watching movies outside, but I've been watching 57 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:31.719 them on magic mushrooms, so it changes the experience a 58 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.199 little bit. I've watched things like Phantasm, a lot of 59 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.520 strange films. The one that fucked me up the most 60 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.879 was definitely The Village because I'm like, whoa, this thing 61 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:41.719 is that thing? And They're like, and I forgot about 62 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.080 what happened in the film. That seems as a kid 63 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.000 and I watched it, I was like, you, it would 64 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.280 be good idea. I was thinking of all these different 65 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.159 movies I wanted to do last week, and I was like, 66 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.479 let's what's the Witch? And my girlfriend? I really remember 67 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:53.240 watching my swore. I was like, who else would I've 68 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.360 watched this with? I'm sitting down by myself maybe, but 69 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:58.919 and I went outside and took about a gram of 70 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.919 mushrooms or I like dose the day before just started 71 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:06.240 at microados and no visuals, but I was still in 72 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:11.400 the mindset of psychedelics essentially slight visuals maybe, but very 73 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:13.879 slight soart a beer or two, and I got sucked 74 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.639 into the movie hard in that time, Aaron, I'm having 75 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:21.000 all these very contemplating thoughts. What was your experience for 76 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:22.639 I start diving more into mine. 77 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.160 I didn't have as cool of an experience. But one 78 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:29.600 thing I will say, and I think I said this 79 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:34.519 to you earlier in the week that I definitely felt 80 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.839 like I had a really strange experience watching the movie. 81 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:42.800 Even though I was stone cold sober, I really sat 82 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.120 down and I kind of took your advice with like, 83 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:48.639 you know, it was late at night, I was in 84 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:50.959 a quiet room, there was no light. It was just 85 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.079 a movie. And you see a lot of times when 86 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:56.160 I watch a movie now, I don't even realize I'm 87 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.000 doing it. I've got like my phone in my hand, 88 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.240 or I'm like doing yes, I'm kind of like half 89 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.959 doing other shit, and like a lot of times it 90 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.360 kind of takes me out of the the atmosphere. Whereas 91 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.839 I felt like this was the first thing in a 92 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:09.519 long time that I actually sat there. I went right, 93 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.279 I'm giving this my undivided attention for the next however 94 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:19.439 long and I really got drawn into even like even 95 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:20.920 to the point where I felt like I was like 96 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:26.319 hypnotized by some of like the way I can't remember 97 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.199 the guy's name who plays the dad, and oh yeah, 98 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.920 his voice was like hypnotic. 99 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.639 Yeah, his weird rock. I can't describe his voice. And 100 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.040 for everybody that's listening to this or watching it, I 101 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.360 suggest you watched the movie okay before, and we should 102 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.959 have this before we really get into anything. 103 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:46.160 Is. 104 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.079 If you haven't yet pause. You can rent it fairly cheaply. 105 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.439 It is a very good movie. It gets you in 106 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.079 the Halloween season, but sit down, watch it. It's only 107 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:56.639 an hour and a half, which I like. It's a 108 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:00.720 nice It does everything perfectly within that hour and a half. 109 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.000 I feel like movies are drawn out now and they 110 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.240 try to make them super long when they don't need 111 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.160 to be, and this one's kind of perfect. So everyone, 112 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.800 before we get into this, pause this, stop it and 113 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.319 go watch the movie, and if you have already seen it, 114 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.199 get ready, because we talk about a lot of crazy shit. 115 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.680 The dad's voice is hypnotic though, and I don't know how, like, yeah, 116 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.399 it reminds me of like with arms wide over, like 117 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.199 that creed kind of like voice. 118 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:32.800 Yeah yeah, And he has like that really a kind 119 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.279 of a raspy, like deep yeah. And it's really weird 120 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.680 because even listen to the trailer for a second ago, 121 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.480 it's like and I know it's not like they didn't 122 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.920 ady or his voice in afterwards or anything like that, 123 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.240 but it really sounds like it points in it that 124 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.319 he has his own specific microphone where he's very like 125 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:53.879 when he's. 126 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.279 Talking, I know the sound and ambience. I give the 127 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:02.399 what's the director's name, Robert Eager? Yeah, she's and he 128 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.560 has talks which hopefully I'm excited about to do No Sparatu, 129 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.279 which will be awesome, which kind of I feel like 130 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:11.759 trickles into our episode that we'll be doing all about 131 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:16.040 vampire movies, which I'm super excited for. It's the I 132 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:20.040 guess the atmosphere of this movie is like super creepy. 133 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.759 Maybe we should get into like the synopsis I hate 134 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.399 that word, but the overview of it as I smoke 135 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:28.600 this bong hit and then we'll fucking get right into it. 136 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.959 So the time period is sixteenth party in New England. 137 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.639 William and Catherine try to lead a devout Christian life 138 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.399 homesteading on the edge of an impassable wilderness with five children. 139 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:44.120 When their newborn son mysteriously vanishes and their crop fails, 140 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.800 the family begin to turn on one another the which 141 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.560 is a chilling portray of a family unraveling within their 142 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.399 own sins, leaving them pray for an inconceivable evil. Now, 143 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.279 so this was not an issue I had, but I 144 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.000 feel like that there's a little bit of disconnect between 145 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.720 a lot of the plot outline and even sometimes the trailers. 146 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.680 Some of the teasers I've seen, I still don't think 147 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:15.560 it does the movie justice as to what it actually is. 148 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:21.759 No, and I agree also, but it is a I 149 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.360 feel like the trailer definitely doesn't do a justice. I 150 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:29.800 would say this is probably one of the best Witch 151 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:34.320 movies that I've seen. There's so many different we can 152 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:36.000 talk about some of the movies and shit like that, 153 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:41.120 but to me, this was definitely one of the best done. 154 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.559 Which movie talking about which is when you think about 155 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.600 that time error, you know what I mean? 156 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:53.759 Yeah, yeah, when you like when you look at this movie, 157 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.519 it kind of makes me feel like, and I'm probably 158 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.799 wrong in saying this, but there hasn't really been like 159 00:08:58.840 --> 00:08:59.679 a close second. 160 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:04.639 No, I don't like and I'm trying to think, like, 161 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:09.159 what other movie has gave me this atmosphere and tone. 162 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.399 And like I said, I was on a gram of mushroom. 163 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.720 So I'm sitting there and I feel like and it's 164 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:17.080 on a one hundred inch screen outside, and I'm kind 165 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.639 of in my feels about the movie. And then I 166 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:21.639 came out of it, like me, and then me and 167 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.960 my fiance sat there. I put on a hammer film 168 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:29.200 I Night Creatures or whatever. I didn't I couldn't pay 169 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.200 attention to its about like pirates and shit, and like 170 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.519 my girlfriend wasn't interested. So we're talking to each other 171 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.080 and then we're talking about our own haunted experiences. Right, 172 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.679 We're talking about like nowhere' his energy go while I'm 173 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:42.120 still like we and she's had her own ghost experiences 174 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:44.559 and we're talking about like houses that we used to 175 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:46.600 live in that had weird energy. So it's in this 176 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.440 weird mindset. And then I'm also like kind of like 177 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:53.279 I was frightened after the film coming from outside thinking 178 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.480 about how I've used the Ouiji board a lot for 179 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.320 people that don't know me. I have three of them. 180 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.120 We're gonna do a whole episode about it or a 181 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.159 Halloween special, and I've messed around a lot of that 182 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.600 cult stuff. And then when I'm sober, i'm my waking mind, 183 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:08.480 I'm like, I don't give a shit, Like I know 184 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:11.320 I can take these things off of me, essentially whatever 185 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.399 attachments may come from using these type of objects and occultism. 186 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.360 And as I left walking outside, I was like, I 187 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.799 don't want to mess with that shit anymore. It's fucking freaky. Uh. 188 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.080 The ending is, uh, we'll get into it later. I 189 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.159 kind of want to build up throughout the film of 190 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.320 what you think, but the ending is the best part 191 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.240 of the movie in my opinion, and it's a very 192 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:38.639 interesting artistic way of viewing witches and freaky, and I 193 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.000 was thinking about it. I do believe that, Like you know, 194 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:42.759 I believe that some of it right, and when it 195 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.960 comes back then and men pointing fingers and all that 196 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.240 stuff at people and saying, like I when of the 197 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.200 stuff I was reading about witches, like even if you 198 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.720 were just smarter essentially, if you're if you if you're 199 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.840 a woman that kind of had intellect, they would start 200 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.879 pouring the finger at you for being a witch. If 201 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.039 you were an old woman that didn't have fucking family, 202 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.639 they'd point the finger at you. But I do believe 203 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.840 that people practiced all sorts of weird witchcraft and things 204 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.600 and found books that maybe they shouldn't have in a 205 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.639 time era that was all about religion. And it freaked 206 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.960 me out thinking about that thought of like, do these 207 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:23.000 entities and things that have maybe attached themselves to witches 208 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:26.919 or people using that type of magic still exist to 209 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:27.399 this day? 210 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.159 And I think they do, And it's so it's so 211 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.639 fucked as well. How you know, it was a time 212 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.600 period where it was nearly as simple. I think this 213 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:43.600 kind of ties into when we spoke about asylums and 214 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.440 mental hospitals and stuff. Yeah, you know, and that was 215 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:50.240 during the era where you could be like basically trow 216 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.960 your wife into an asylum, like, well, Donald, she's psychotic, 217 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.360 that's it, Like forget about her. And this was similar 218 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.919 in the sense of, you know, you could just accue 219 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:02.320 somebody of being a witch and that was it. It was 220 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.039 basically gay or folks, we're gonna burn you at the 221 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:05.399 steak or like stone. 222 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.879 It literally seems like that. It's just it was so 223 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:13.080 easy to just be like, you're that's you, You're a witch, okay, 224 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.279 and you could say anything, especially as a male figure 225 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:17.799 and someone who was say more prominent in town. Look 226 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:19.919 at the fact that like people like serial killers like 227 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.840 John Wayne Gacy and shit like work themselves within the 228 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.480 town and try to be an upstanding citizen, you know 229 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:27.360 what I mean. Then you have these scumbag dudes that 230 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.399 could do it like I'm I'm a standing guy. I 231 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.639 help the community. And then you have the ability to 232 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.519 point out people to literally get murdered because you just 233 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.320 necessarily you might. 234 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:42.960 Not like them, yeah, you know. Yeah, And and back 235 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.200 then with these witches, I was listening to a story 236 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.159 and I can't I should have written down a name, 237 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:49.679 but I can't remember the name of the guy he 238 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.879 became a famous witch hunter at one point, and which 239 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.080 is we're believed to have this thing called a witch's teat, 240 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.639 which is like acid that yeah, like a special nipple 241 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.480 that they would have to nurse imps. I think it 242 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.759 is not to be mistaken with gimps. 243 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.759 So what is an imp is? Is that like a 244 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:09.919 fucking little creature? 245 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:14.639 Yeah, like some kind of little goblin shit. And this 246 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.720 dude used to he had this weird like tool that 247 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.080 he made like a again, it just it's so random. 248 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:25.399 It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm a 249 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.639 witch hunter. This is a witch hunting tool that I invented, 250 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.840 and this is and it was like I can't remember exactly. 251 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.360 It was basically like a pen was the idea. 252 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:37.720 Of it, and he could stick you with it. It 253 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:38.879 would happen, yeah. 254 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.000 He so he would stick you with it, and if 255 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:44.320 you didn't feel the prick of this tool that he had, 256 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.720 it was like one hundred percent that you were a witch. 257 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.240 So what he actually done was they found out years 258 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.679 later he ended up actually being killed himself. He was 259 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.639 sentenced to death for all these different crimes, but it 260 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:01.120 turns out that the entire time he had a retractable 261 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:06.000 pin in it, so he would he would just decide 262 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.840 so nobody ever, they would never feel us. 263 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.360 And the thing is, wasn't that I think I might 264 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:13.879 have like looked at the same thing you were looking 265 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.000 at because it talks about how they would just it 266 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.360 would just be for money too. Yeah, it would just 267 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.960 be like whatever, you know, like and it's like at 268 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.519 the time where people were poor, you're trying to get 269 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.200 get rich quick scheme, and everyone was religious. That's why 270 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.559 I'm like a lot of times I'm like, religion, I 271 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.679 don't know, might be the issue in a lot of 272 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.360 these things that we see in our history of like 273 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.360 over zealous people, you could say, but like just they're 274 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:41.320 too far gone where some of these religions where And 275 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.159 I have family members that are like super devout Christian 276 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.480 and I respect their beliefs, but it seems like back 277 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.480 then some of that ship was the issue of being 278 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.360 like if you go outside of this book the Bible 279 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.480 and the way that we interpret it in this section 280 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.720 of this religion, and if you don't I don't understand that, 281 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.000 or you look outside of that, We're gonna burn you 282 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:03.559 at the stake. 283 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.240 Yeah, And I mean even I guess even into more 284 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.080 modern times, like look at when something like The Exorcist 285 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.200 came out and like the everyone freaked out the oh 286 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:16.440 bro and it's like what the fuck? Like that was 287 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.000 in the seventies, It's like, what is come on? Like 288 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:20.519 we've we've got to do better than not. 289 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.120 Like and they thought everyone was possessed and it like 290 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.879 freaked everybody out. We talked about that movie a long 291 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.720 time ago on this podcast A Cursed Films because of 292 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.080 the stuff that was happening on the set, and it's 293 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.080 just like, and this is what this film felt like too, 294 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.360 is like that. It it felt like even in the 295 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.559 trailer it says we watched the trailer beforehand for all 296 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:44.720 the audio listeners and it says, uh, it's you're watching 297 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.320 something you shouldn't watch or something like that. It's just 298 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.919 like it feels like that that it feels cursed in 299 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:50.480 some way. 300 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.200 Yeah, And it's something I didn't know was the director 301 00:15:55.279 --> 00:16:01.080 was actually inspired to write the movie. He had like 302 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.799 apparently a lifelong from like early childhood, a fascination which 303 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:08.159 is and he used to be brought on visits to 304 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.519 I don't have the name of a plantation anyway, it's 305 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:22.080 basically a complex of museums to represent English pilgrims that 306 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.399 settled in the area that he grew up, and like 307 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.519 he got a fascination with like witches, witchcraft in that 308 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:31.600 time period, and this has been something that he's wanted 309 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:33.840 to I think a lot of people are fascinated by. 310 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.480 This was like his debut feature film. But he was like, no, 311 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.200 this was like a lifetime's work. 312 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:41.840 What was his debut film? 313 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:42.320 This? 314 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.799 This was? Yeah, he had made that's crazy. 315 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.399 Yeah, he had made like you know, short films and stuff, 316 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:51.559 but this was like his his first feature. 317 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.799 Lent like, I'm always like, how can I do this? 318 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.879 What can't I fucking don't. I just wish I was 319 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.919 raising a different I don't know it sounds bad, but 320 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.240 family or something like you have to respect where you 321 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.079 are in life and respect what incarnation am I believe 322 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:07.240 you got and just try to live this experience the 323 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.519 best way you can. But it's just like, man, I 324 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:11.799 have such I had such good ideas. I was eleven 325 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.000 year old kid, dude, and I was writing fucking horror 326 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.759 movie ideas for slasher films, and I was like taking 327 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:19.839 pictures of this, like mask I had with this like 328 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.319 Pitchfork and then I would make up an idea about 329 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.799 that story. And I used to do shit like that 330 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:27.920 and I wanted, I want to be like a director, 331 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.079 like I will love Wes Craven. And the thing is 332 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.480 like life just didn't display that opportunity. I was struggling 333 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:34.880 as a teenager. I don't know what the fuck I 334 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.680 was doing with life. And it's just like if I 335 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.119 could have taken my outlets and put it towards that, 336 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.640 I could be fucking Wes Craven junior right now, right 337 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:43.119 I could. 338 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.759 Yeah, I could be interviewing you right now, and I 339 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.519 know a movie and you know, and you're right about 340 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.000 that as well. I recently found a copy book that 341 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.920 I must have had in like school, and like there's 342 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.279 like shitloads of these short stories like I must have 343 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.640 been like nine, and it's like all these like horror 344 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.559 movie ideas and like and it's like really like cringey, Like. 345 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.240 Oh, mine are super bad. I wish I could find them. 346 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.680 But it's like you're definitely right about that, because I 347 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.160 feel like I've only like barely got my life on 348 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:14.279 the rails in the last couple of years. And it's like, OK, 349 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:16.640 if I had had all those years of like a 350 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.920 normal life, maybe I'd be in a completely different position 351 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:20.359 right now. 352 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.359 I feel like, dude, I've said to my fans on 353 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:23.880 the podcast, like I was kind of in and out 354 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:26.200 of jail being a stupid kid when I was a teenager, 355 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.039 the youth youth jail and just going out of like 356 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.039 holding cells, being an idiot, like get on probation and drinking. Essentially, 357 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.480 I was like an hit but like and it's I 358 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.519 was like, why couldn't I just lived a normal life 359 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:40.400 and maybe not put myself through some of this shit 360 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.599 and like had you know, so I could progress? Because 361 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:46.599 now I see my I was like I could, I 362 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:48.759 could do this shit. I was super creative as a kid, 363 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.920 and it's just like I had a cliff and then 364 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:52.400 it just kind of went off and I was like, 365 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.920 you know what I could have been Stanley kubrick Man, 366 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.119 I could fucking make symbol symbology and fucking films and shit. 367 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:00.720 I was like I could figure it out. 368 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:03.960 To be fair, though, I don't think that's went away, 369 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.559 like you can clearly see it. I think if somebody 370 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:09.720 even listens to one episode of your podcast, I think 371 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:14.400 it's quite clear that that that spark is still there, Yeah, 372 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:15.480 which is good for sure. 373 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.240 I still have that kid of me where I'm like, man, 374 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.319 I'm so I want to believe in I always said Anton, 375 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.720 I'm a fantastical and sometimes he's more like grounded on 376 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:26.720 certain subjects where I'm like, nah, I just want to. 377 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:29.680 I want to believe in fucking reptilian people, even if 378 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:31.880 they are just killing kids. And I was like, I 379 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.000 want that, Like it's just I don't know. I think 380 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:39.119 that reality, especially doing psycholics, is not as solid as 381 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:41.799 we think it is, and being on mushrooms really allows 382 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:43.200 you to see that. And when I was on this film, 383 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.680 so I was thinking about like these forces, this supernatural 384 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.799 force that if you use it in the wrong way, 385 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:53.400 can be called upon and maybe possess somebody and what 386 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.680 they would think is witchcraft. But there was this them, 387 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.160 you know, mess around stuff because Luigi boards existed for 388 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.119 whatever how long since the eighteen hundreds, and people were 389 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:06.079 getting into like the fucking talking board, but it's probably 390 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.599 existed for centuries because I would make it from a 391 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.640 piece of paper in a shot class and you and 392 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.440 you know what I mean. So just calling upon those 393 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.480 things with some sort of means to communicate, like they 394 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.279 used to do the knocking, which they don't know if 395 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.279 it was faked from this Fox Sisters, but this idea 396 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.559 that like these witchy things like the Fox Sisters did 397 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.880 what they did and what the eighteen hundreds, back in 398 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.960 the sixteen hundreds, they would have been dragged away in 399 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.720 two seconds and been burnt at the stake for the 400 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.920 even faking it. Yeah, in the way they did, you 401 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.759 know what I mean, here's the. 402 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.000 Question for you actually before we we dive right into 403 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:42.880 this because I don't want to, I don't want to 404 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:47.960 drag it out too long, But what's your thoughts on 405 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.200 the idea that you know, and I suppose it kind 406 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.960 of ties into I've seen some arguments about like how 407 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.440 this movie actually plays out. You know, some people believe 408 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.680 that you know that there is no whitch. There's there's 409 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.640 a lot theories about like when you get That's what 410 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:05.039 I thought that the first time I watched it. Yeah, 411 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:06.519 when you get to the end, Like there's a lot 412 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.240 of different conclusions I think you can come to, and 413 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.359 which is great because different people can come away from 414 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.839 it with a different idea and it can be everything. 415 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.039 But what's your thoughts on the idea of you know, 416 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:22.440 if your belief in something is strong enough that like 417 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.240 you nearly manifested as now I don't mean as reality 418 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.960 for others. Yeah, but you know, if you wholeheartedly believe 419 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:34.720 in something, do you think that you can essentially manifest 420 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:35.960 that as your reality? 421 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.079 I do think that in this reality, okay, because I 422 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:41.920 have my own crazy beliefs right with the d with 423 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.279 the reptilians. And essentially, if you don't even want to 424 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.359 believe in lizard people, you don't fucking have to just 425 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:50.599 imagine a dark force in religion times you would classify 426 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:54.039 as Satan kind of or Lucifer and cat. And then 427 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.400 what they believed in this witchcraft shit right essentially is 428 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:01.880 praising these dark entities, these dark energies that exzoom fear right. 429 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:05.279 They take people's bad emotions and when you're suffering and 430 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.359 in pain, they use that because it's an energy force. 431 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.079 You can feel it when you have those kind of emotions. 432 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.279 And so I believe that they're trying to stop us 433 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:17.759 from being as creative as we are. There's an idea 434 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:19.640 when it comes to aliens, to talk about it very quickly, 435 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.119 is that if we draw a piece of paper. It's 436 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.359 kind of like witchcraft too, if we drawn a piece 437 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:26.960 of paper wherever to take thoughts and put it on 438 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:31.640 paper and actually draw it out and create something. The 439 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.200 reptilians can't do that, according or these dark energies, these 440 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.440 dark beings from a different reality, they're not able to 441 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.960 do that. But they can take that picture and change 442 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.000 it or mutate it to what they want it to be. 443 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.599 They can take something that's already created by a creative 444 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.359 entity or an individual that is like a free thinking individual, 445 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:55.640 and then they can take it and they can alter it. 446 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.319 So think about our reality, right, and how the hospital 447 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:01.440 system is upside down, religion is up site on, everything's inverted. 448 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.039 Avid I talks about this where it's all inverted and 449 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.359 it's turned bad from good and we don't really notice it, 450 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.400 and these things are just slowly doing this to exume 451 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.880 our energy. But I do believe, in fucking in my 452 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:16.759 long process of telling you this, that you're able to 453 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.599 bring stuff into your reality. I do believe intention the 454 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:24.599 energy gloat goes where the intention flows, essentially, and like that, 455 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:27.000 that's what soccer stadiums is. Like everyone's freaking out and 456 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:30.519 the soccer players can feel the energy of the crowd 457 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.880 and that's part of this. That energy is there. And 458 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.400 if you don't want to believe in uh, the afterlife, 459 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.039 it's evident everywhere in my opinion when it comes to 460 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:42.559 energies now that the energies don't die. But I that's 461 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.119 why you can do it with witches too. It's manifesting. 462 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.160 And if they think about all this stuff at this 463 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:50.519 time where they maybe are plagued by some sort of 464 00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:54.599 dark force, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's this 465 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.960 is still about witchcraft because the energy of witchcraft. 466 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.559 Yeah, because the more the more I kind of looked 467 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:04.319 into that, it's it's a fascinating idea. And I don't 468 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.599 think it's as far fetched as some people might. Yeah, 469 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.359 Like I think a lot of people think, oh, manifest 470 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.599 your reality. And I don't mean like some weird like 471 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:14.759 Tony Robbins. Shit. 472 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:16.960 One of the biggest secret, Man, I watched that show 473 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:18.759 when I was a kid. That could you The biggest 474 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.160 secret is you could just think about something that will happen. 475 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.640 It's like not always if you have dark energies coming 476 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:24.039 down here. 477 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:26.359 Yeah, Like I don't you know when I when I 478 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.319 say that, and I asked that question. I don't mean, 479 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.200 you know, if you sit in your bedroom every day 480 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:36.160 jerking off and wish for a million dollars, that you 481 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.240 know one day a million dollars is just going to 482 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.079 show up in a room. I don't mean that, but 483 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.720 I definitely do think that there is something too. And 484 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.119 even you know, we've had private conversations about different life 485 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:51.480 experiences we've both had, which is not for the show, 486 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.039 but it's one of those things again, Like I often 487 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.160 had times where I was like, how much it is 488 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:01.799 that I actually actively manifest without too but yeah, like 489 00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.079 not having any self awareness at the time, but I 490 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.640 was like, wait, did I like manage to manifest like 491 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.960 ninety nine percent of this problem and issue an ongoing thing? 492 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.480 And yeah, and how you're able to push like I 493 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.799 think that you. My fiance's mom always says, you fear 494 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:22.319 what you bring near what you fear, or you fear 495 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.079 what you bring near, Like essentially, if you are afraid 496 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.480 of something and you keep thinking about it and analyzing it, 497 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.440 you're gonna make it worse. And that's why intention and 498 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.519 that's why I magic. To me, like whatever magic is 499 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.680 in the black magic and I have a fucking Thick 500 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.640 asked Alice to Crowley book and has all of his 501 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.680 work in there. And I haven't dived into Alice Crollie 502 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.039 more or less. I've researched about him. I've read a 503 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:46.839 couple of things by him, but not really dive too deep. 504 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.759 And I want to. We did a whole episode about 505 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.640 Alis Crolly. But that intention of magic, And Anton wants 506 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.359 me to read White Stains, one of his poem poems 507 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.559 for The Patriot because he's like, I just want to 508 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.400 hear your reaction to some of his poems because they're 509 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.440 I've heard I've read parts of them like years ago, 510 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.599 but that it's just like this idea of this intention 511 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.319 of magic right where you just blacky to me, it's 512 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.400 intention where you're like, Okay, I'm gonna sit here. And 513 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.559 I always joke about like coming on a piece of 514 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.640 paper with something written on it, so you're like you 515 00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.359 give it some meaning, so you're like, I want this 516 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.640 person to be cursed for a week, and then you 517 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.119 like come on the piece of paper and then you 518 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.079 light it on fire and you like put this fucking 519 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.000 energy out there, you know what I mean? So what 520 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:28.400 it feels like, it is like I feel like I've 521 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:29.400 thought about doing that. 522 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:35.799 Yeah, yeah, No, and another another fascinating and absolutely fascinating 523 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:39.440 character as Alistair Curly. Again, that's a conversation for a. 524 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:42.359 Different about that idea of black magic. 525 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:47.640 Yeah, he's such a again, like a polarizing character in 526 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.200 all the way, and he he had a lot of 527 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.960 I go, I guess belief systems and different things. And 528 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.920 I do think that it's not as even I used 529 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.279 to think it at one point that it was as 530 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.960 cotton dry as like, oh yeah, okay magic, yeah wow, 531 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.839 Harry Potter, which I love, but yeah, yeah, I'm not 532 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.880 I'm not knocking Harry Potter. But I think a lot 533 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.000 of people when when they hear that conversation, they're kind 534 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:13.759 of imagining, like, you know, you're making a fetter levitate 535 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.640 from the table or something like that. So that's not 536 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.279 That's not what we're talking about. It's a completely different. 537 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.200 That's why. Yeah, black magic is different than like a 538 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:27.759 bright hand path path versus left hand path and how okay, 539 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:32.519 people like David Blaine fucking mind free, Chris Angel fucking dude, 540 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.599 I like I used to love when I was a kid, 541 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:36.839 and as I got older, the older I got the 542 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.240 more I realized how big of a douchebag Chris Angel 543 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.720 actually really is. But he's essentially tricking your mind. It's 544 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.440 an illusion. It's not really magic. It's an illusion. Black 545 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.359 magic essentially is like, yeah, putting your intention in sing 546 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.920 like you And there's all sorts of ways they've done it, 547 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.000 assault circle and then you call upon a fucking demon 548 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.240 and they're either way. People have done this in our history, 549 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.039 you know, like in the idea of witches I want 550 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:03.720 to talk about it is like essentially we get it, 551 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.440 like what do you think first? Essentially when we grew up, 552 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.640 the idea of witches was that they were like ugly, 553 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:14.440 grotesque creatures. This film does it a different kind of way, 554 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.839 but a little like it's you know what I. 555 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:23.960 Mean outside not actually that that movie The Witches in 556 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.599 the nineties scared the shit out of me as a kid. 557 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.519 I know it's weird. I was like, I bet you 558 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.720 if I bring this photo. It's essentially for the auto listeners, 559 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.559 the iconic one of the Witches when they revealed themselves 560 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.039 from the movie The Witches didn't like to remake that much, 561 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.359 just my opinion, but the original did freak me out 562 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.319 and I thought that you would also think the same thing, which. 563 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.319 And I rewatched that again and again quite a bit. 564 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.039 We used to have a thing in Ireland every Saturday 565 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.359 evening at like six pm. This was like back in 566 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.880 the times of like TV guides and stuff where you 567 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.559 had to be at the TV eight days, and like 568 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.119 we had this thing every every Saturday evening. There was 569 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.480 like the news at six pm and then it's I 570 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.400 think it was like six thirty. We had this thing 571 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.759 called the Big Big Movie and they would pick like 572 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.920 you know, and I could spin off like yeah, I 573 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.960 can pick up like I can basically name the films 574 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.920 they would have on rotation. It would be like the 575 00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:25.759 nineties Dennis the Menace, Home Alone, The Witches. It was 576 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.480 all that like style of movie kind of at that time. 577 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.200 And I remember watching The Witches for the first time 578 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.799 and being like, oh, yeah, it's a movie about witches whatever. 579 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:41.240 I did not expect that transformation scene, that boardroom, like 580 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.200 that shit is grotesque, Yeah, I. 581 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.160 Know, And everyone's look up the picture of the Alliss 582 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.240 because she has like it's the to me, one of 583 00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:54.079 the most creepy looking at least for the nineties, let's say, 584 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.519 style of what a witch could look like, because we've 585 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.279 all seen which I would love to talk about old 586 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.720 talk about it, but the Wizard of Oz because essentially, 587 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.000 as we're talking about this movie, we're gonna in witchcraft 588 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.880 and which is in general, we're gonna think about what 589 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.799 comes to our mind and our subconsciousness about which is 590 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.920 specifically so like it comes from Wizard of Oz. You 591 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.119 see that first depiction of her and green makeup on 592 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.200 a broom. At least the like subconscious of like social 593 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:24.680 I guess you could say demographics of every like you 594 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.880 know what I mean, it's our social consciousness, Like movies 595 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.680 specifically do this, especially that movie and it was cursed. 596 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.799 But that's like to me, the first time I think 597 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.319 I really saw the depiction of a witch when I 598 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:36.920 was a kid. 599 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:43.559 Yeah, yeah, and and you know what look Yeah like 600 00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.599 Shular had a cursed I think it was called Carst 601 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.440 Films series. 602 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.680 And yes, I actually really enjoyed that and now we 603 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.319 Yeah that's where I was talking about. 604 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.480 Yeah, and like I remember watching the episode about that 605 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.559 and like I kind of forgot how on set like 606 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:01.359 a lot of that. 607 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.759 Was, especially with the little people and what was going on. 608 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:11.599 And yeah, it's just like, Okay, so I suppose to 609 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.000 dive back into this movie. Do you want to go 610 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.720 from the start? Do you want to Is there anything 611 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.359 you want to say? Yeah, that's what I was thinking 612 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:20.799 about it. 613 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.480 Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, like how we 614 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:28.440 should bring it in from the beginning essentially. And I 615 00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.160 have one question to ask you that I've I was 616 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.680 really dying too, What the fuck do you think of 617 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.480 the Twins? 618 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:43.440 Strange made me really uncomfortable? 619 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.119 Actually, yeah, they made They make me uncomfortable with watching 620 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.559 the film. 621 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.119 Even even looking at that little gift you have for 622 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.640 for people who can't see us right now and are listening. 623 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:59.240 Not the only Tom has some gifts of the Twins 624 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.319 like skip and true the I was gonna say, I 625 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.200 don't wasteland that looks like yeah there, I don't know. 626 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.640 There's just something about them. And this is gonna sound awful, 627 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.240 But at one point while watching it, I actually paused 628 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.519 the movie to Google to see if like they had 629 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.000 some kind of like special needs or something. Yeah, and 630 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.559 I don't even mean that in like a like half sing, 631 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.400 but I was like, there's something like off here. I 632 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.920 was like, there's no way those kids could be that good. 633 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:30.559 At acting. 634 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.119 I know, yeah, I know what you mean, because they 635 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.200 they literally to me, crawl under your skin, and I 636 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.519 could talk about like I wanted this specific type of 637 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.559 the twins for a while just because of their characters. 638 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.200 There was a point in the movie watched outside and 639 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.000 I was like, and I'm on fucking a grand mushrooms. 640 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.200 I was like, I hate these fucking annoying kids. I 641 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.640 was like, can they just die first? Like? And I 642 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.680 was like, and I forgot about the film, like I 643 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.079 watched it like years ago when at first probably came out. 644 00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.200 I was like, twenty sixteen, it's a fucking while ago. 645 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.240 So I was like, I probably watched it around when 646 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.440 it came out, and it was one of those movies 647 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.200 that stayed with me. I was like, this was creepy. 648 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.359 I can't watch it all the time. So I was like, 649 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.359 let's watch it outside. I probably won't watch it for 650 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.279 another couple of fucking years. And those kids gave me 651 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:14.799 the same feeling I watched it the first time where 652 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.400 I was like, Man, these fucking they're annoying as shit 653 00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.880 the way even like the in the trail and she's 654 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.440 like bah bah, I'm like, can you fucking stop that man, 655 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.279 it's one of those kids for everyone. If like, even 656 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.559 if you haven't seen this and for some strange reason 657 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.559 you're listening to just to hear us talk about witches 658 00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.319 and stuff like that, it is like a they The 659 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:38.799 way he filmed it was specifically made them annoying. It's 660 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.359 like one of those kids that like doesn't stop like 661 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.480 poking something he shouldn't. Mm hmm, Like you know what 662 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.680 I mean, give me your thoughts more about the twins. 663 00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.440 Yeah, And I feel like I guess to kind of 664 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.839 open that up a bit and a lot of the 665 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.680 characters I found And I don't mean this in a 666 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.759 this is meant in a bad way. I think it 667 00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.920 was intentional, like while you're watching the movie, and I 668 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.320 think it's really reflective of actual like the actual human 669 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:10.880 race to be honest, which I know it's set in 670 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.639 a different time period, but I think it still boils 671 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.000 down to that's as people, that's kind of how we 672 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:21.639 would behave in said situation. But like you know, even 673 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.639 the you've got the two twins, the mutter is like 674 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.920 fucking yeah, I. 675 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.599 Was gonna wait to talk about her, but if you 676 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.360 want to get into her now, I was just like 677 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.840 those twins just completely annoyed me, and I thought their 678 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.519 characters were well done, and the fact that you kind 679 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.320 of feel sympathy then you fucking hate them, then you 680 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.360 kind of feel sympathy. And I want to say also 681 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.679 that I didn't realize through it fucking like maybe the 682 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.559 ending of the film and I looked at it was 683 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.039 like looking up and looking into it and like now 684 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.480 messaging you wanting to talk about it? Is that I 685 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.679 didn't fucking tune into my mouth. I didn't realize that, uh, 686 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.880 they were banished, like I didn't maybe if I didn't 687 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.440 pay attention to the beginning of the film, but I 688 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.760 didn't realize for a while that they got like sent 689 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.760 out of the main civilization. 690 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.239 Yeah, so here's something funny. And I was actually gonna 691 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.440 mention this and I was like, oh wait, that's gonna 692 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.519 make me sound like fucking retarded. But even though I 693 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.039 watched this twice, it was only when I was watching 694 00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:29.519 I think a YouTube breakdown in the movie, somebody said 695 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.960 something about banished or they left where they were and 696 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.039 that's the whole thing. And she's like, because I know, 697 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:42.360 at one point, what's the main girl's character's. 698 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.719 Name, Thomason Thomasin because I remember that. I was like, 699 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.360 whose name is kind of like my. 700 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.320 Name Thomasin and she says something about going back or 701 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.800 something like that, and I'm like, what the fuck are 702 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:54.719 they talking about? 703 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.639 And I was like, they're in the middle of fucking nowhere, 704 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:58.840 and that's when it's creepy. 705 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.760 And I was like oh, because to me, the the 706 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:05.920 vibe I got was like, oh, just everything in the 707 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.159 world is fucked and everybody's just kind of doing their 708 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.920 own thing. I maybe I'm wrong and if someone's listened 709 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.920 to this, it can correct me. But I definitely missed 710 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.920 the Parrot as well, where they like explicitly said, oh yeah, yeah, 711 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.159 you know that time we were banished from that town. 712 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.199 And they know they say something about well we can't 713 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.800 go back or where they do. I remember hearing it 714 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.000 and I was like what because the whole time, right, 715 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.599 I'm thinking that this is back in Essentially this is 716 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.480 before essentially what he says, I say, essentially a lot 717 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.760 before the Sale and Witch. It's yes, before the Salem 718 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.360 Witch trials. It's before this has happened, is what I've read. 719 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.840 So as they're like getting into the film, it's beforehand 720 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:52.360 and then I'm like, hey, well, I just think that 721 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.360 they're like everyone gets a plot of land. And I 722 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.159 was talking to Chelsea about this. You buy it from 723 00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:00.719 essentially the queen or whoever whoever country you reside in, 724 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.960 because they were just fucking I was like, they were 725 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.840 just massacring fucking indigenous people not long beforehand, and it's like, 726 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.119 this is mine now, Okay, you guys were treating nature 727 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.880 too well. We now build structures and we don't associate 728 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.079 with nature and probably psychedelics and things like that and 729 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.280 living off the land, and they just fucking plot their 730 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.800 shit down. But you would buy the land back in 731 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.239 the day, and it would probably be fairly cheap for 732 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.599 some people moving to this new land. And how they 733 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.679 sold property, they want to get as many settlers as 734 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.480 they could get in. I just feel like they would 735 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:32.719 have a plot of land. That's why I thought they 736 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:34.840 were I just like, I bought this huge land. Now 737 00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:36.719 we're out in the woods and it's only us here 738 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.800 because we left everything behind, and I'm scared. 739 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.440 Also, before the talk goes out of my mind, the dad. 740 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.719 Looking back on it, I'm like, and I really like 741 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.599 his character. I like the guy who plays and I 742 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.800 think it was. It all worked perfectly, and I think 743 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.719 it was probably meant to make you because I think 744 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.840 a lot of the movie was was made to maybe 745 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.519 divide the audience, so you had like, yeah, maybe one 746 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.360 feeling or another. I couldn't have. The more I thought 747 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.079 about the movie, I was like, I was like, fuck me, 748 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.079 he's such a bitch. I was like, he's such like 749 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:17.440 a you know, he kind of he lets Thompson take 750 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.760 the blame for shit. He you know, the crops are 751 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.559 all fucked up this and that, and he's still kind 752 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:26.719 of like denying what's actually going on. And I'm like, 753 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.280 I guess it's a sign of the times as well. 754 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.599 I think it kind of shows like you said earlier 755 00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.559 about like men kind of having the power to be like, 756 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.960 shut up, bitch, it's it's this, and like everybody just 757 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:47.719 had to just accept it, which is like, really, that's 758 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.440 my trail to talk gone for. I was wondering what 759 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.119 happened there. Tom just traded me to a picture of 760 00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.719 Snape burning hermione at the stake is it and he's 761 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.079 wearing a he's wearing a top ass Okay. 762 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.360 I was just thinking about like women and stuff like that. No, 763 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:13.599 I don't fucking sorry to surprise you with that. I 764 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.880 know what you're just saying. Though about the dad, his 765 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.000 character is like it's yeah, he's kind of like he's blaming, 766 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.280 like blaming everyone one for everything else. But and then 767 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.159 at one point when watching the film, when they're like, uh, 768 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.280 you gave away the or you sold though, and I 769 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.320 didn't understand what the fuck they were talking about, like 770 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.840 what the silver cups? So essentially he's poor and he's 771 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.840 down on his luck and he can't produce any crops 772 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.679 because the land is cursed. 773 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:47.239 Yeah, so it was like it was the wife's family's 774 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.360 silver copp or something that she had and he had 775 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.880 taken it and he had traded it for something. 776 00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.119 Yeah, it seems like there was a lot of like 777 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.159 that was hard to carry. I do like this film 778 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.360 a lot, but that told like, well, so he's in 779 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.920 the way they spoke obviously is like old English and 780 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.079 they are like accusing each other of stuff. The mom 781 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.440 also is it's weird that they have characters that the 782 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.199 mom starts to fucking annoy me too at one point 783 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.719 where I'm like and I want to start getting into 784 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.079 some of the crazier shit, but that's like so. And 785 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.800 then so the mom was also fucking weird and the 786 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:25.960 way her character is because also like the Twins, there's 787 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.760 something about her that I was like, ah, like you 788 00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.639 feel for her, but then don't the way he did 789 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:34.760 this movie in the motions that it like plucks at 790 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:35.519 so to speak. 791 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.280 Yes, I was. As I was watching it, I was 792 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.800 like trying to put myself in a position to the dad, 793 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:43.880 and I was like, you know what I'd do in 794 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.400 this position, I would take that ax and I would 795 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.679 kill both those kids. I would kill the wife. I 796 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.440 was like, those are just really really annoying, So I 797 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.400 would kill them immediately. 798 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.400 Kids and their wife. And then so you're left with 799 00:40:58.519 --> 00:40:59.840 Thomasin and. 800 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:02.079 Caleb. 801 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.880 Oh yeah, because that story is fucked too. 802 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:09.079 That like there's another and like it was one of 803 00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.159 those things where I was like, looking at it, there's 804 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.119 a part where she's washing her again, like just there's 805 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:18.440 so many like little bizarre things and I know it's 806 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.480 it's a sign of the times where the towards the 807 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.840 start of the movie, the dad trips and falls into 808 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:31.159 like fucking cowshitter, fucking laughing at him. Yeah, and then 809 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.559 they like say it to him about the mother says, 810 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.840 like Thomas, and get your dad's clothes off or whatever 811 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:40.159 whatever way she finds. 812 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.360 Sprinkle sprinkle the pedophilia in there. 813 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.320 Yeah, But like she he's standing there with his hands 814 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.000 like this way, she's undressing them, and I'm like, what 815 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:51.039 is going on? 816 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.000 They said that same thing. 817 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.760 Actually it's like five minutes later she's she's at the 818 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.280 creek and she's like washing the shirt and then Am 819 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.239 comes and he's like trying to look at her tits 820 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:02.719 and stuff. 821 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.639 They're like, kay, you think about this right, because you're 822 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.679 gonna analyze this film in so many different ways and 823 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.760 the emotions that it brings because you're thinking about how 824 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.360 we existed. I even watching, I said after like me 825 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.639 and Chelsea washing it, I have dosed and stuff. I'm like, 826 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.000 it's it's a wonder how we survived all this shit 827 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.000 as humans, like the Black plague, this stuff of like 828 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.480 you're not even washing your hands. So the doctors are 829 00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.159 killing more women and children than they think because essentially, 830 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:31.800 back in the day, they didn't wash their hands, and 831 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:33.760 when they would, they would go from cutting open a 832 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.719 corpse to delivering a baby, and then it started that 833 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.800 all the babies would die and then women would die 834 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.679 like what's happening? And then they fucking realized to wash 835 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.199 her hands? But like, how do we exist as this beings? Right? 836 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:43.360 That? 837 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.599 Like and then you think back then, we're like you 838 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.360 didn't have any of those learning lessons that we do nowadays, 839 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.719 where you like, if you grew up and you only 840 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.599 have this specific woman to look at, like you know 841 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.480 what I mean that it's it's you're gonna have to 842 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.440 have feelings. And that's where like the some that shit 843 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.960 with insects comes from in certain cultures because they don't 844 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:06.239 have anyone else outside of their circle, like especially like 845 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.920 think about African tribes and stuff like that, where maybe 846 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.199 it's just like they don't have touch with communication with humanity, 847 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:12.840 you know what I mean? 848 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:13.800 Yeah? 849 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.519 Am I going down the right road with this? Like 850 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:16.079 you know what I mean? 851 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:16.920 Yea, yeah, yeah no. 852 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:17.800 Uh. 853 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.440 As I watched them, was like, I don't blame the kid, 854 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:26.000 like I can I get you know, I can remember 855 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.639 being like what age would you say Caleb is in this? 856 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.440 To me, it's like twelve thirteen, Yeah, twelve fourteen, So 857 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.519 I you know, I can remember being that that age 858 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.960 in like modern times and being like yeah, hormone, Like 859 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.119 fucking it was just like what, yeah, like a walk 860 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.719 and yeah, like a walking hormone, where like you know, 861 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.840 you would fucking anything would, as Gardo says, literally anything 862 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.599 would make the white stuff come out. 863 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.960 I don't like everybody says that. I'm like the white 864 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.639 stuff come out. I was like, I have to say 865 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:00.599 it like that, you know. 866 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.760 Yeah, he does that on purposes, well, I think because 867 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.440 so many people find it's all grim. But if you know, 868 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.480 I'm thinking, if I felt like that, who else do 869 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:10.599 you have around? 870 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:11.320 Yeah? 871 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.679 If I felt like that in modern times now go 872 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.760 back to sixteens hardy and be like, yeah, I'd probably 873 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.079 be fucking modern and everything. 874 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:21.119 Yeah, because you don't have like anything else to associate 875 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.280 it with, right essentially, and that's where they get some 876 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.000 of these like weird eighties movies from that they used 877 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.400 to film and like these this weird thing of like 878 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.840 as our culture because you have ideas of the queen 879 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.119 doing this right to keep money withinside the family. But 880 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.119 this existed so back then. I couldn't imagine some of 881 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.480 the settlers were probably fucking each other's because they're all family. 882 00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.920 Everyone's even us technically are all cousins. It's like thousands 883 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.280 of years maybe in difference, but you know what I 884 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.239 mean that we all came from Africa from essentially one 885 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.880 or you know a handful of beings that were maybe 886 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.599 genetically modified by aliens. But and then it's just like 887 00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.760 you don't know anything else to do. You have these 888 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.880 and primal instincts. And that's where this time error shows 889 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.960 of people being scared of stuff they don't understand. 890 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.199 So does that technically mean then that we all fuck 891 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.039 our own cousins? 892 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.559 Most likely that you know that what's the not Harry 893 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.800 William his wife is his thirty eighth cousin according to 894 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.880 the research I've done, because they keep it with inside 895 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.280 some sort of family, right, And you think about this 896 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.079 time era of people this settling down essentially like there's 897 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.320 that Joe Rogan joke where they're like, you know, they 898 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.960 show up at whatever, like Arkansas. I don't always pick 899 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.639 on Arkansas, but like especially some sort of fucking place 900 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.880 like that, like our South Carolina's like they see it's 901 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.119 good and then they like just set down their shit 902 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.880 and by we'll building live here together. And it's just 903 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.360 like I don't want to walk no more. And that's 904 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.199 how it was. Would you just even where these people 905 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.920 come from, right, whatever town settlement, it was just like 906 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.039 here seems good, like they did probably know as much 907 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.639 as they thought about the surrounding. There's like we have trees, 908 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:04.800 that's all we need. 909 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.039 Yeah, yeah, true, that's that's actually kind of fucked up 910 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:19.000 when you when you dig underneath that. Okay, so so disappeared, 911 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.719 Yeah where we were last at in the in this. 912 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:23.719 Yeah? 913 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.079 So the young the young kid, is it? Sam? 914 00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:29.159 Sam wise Ganji? 915 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:30.480 Is that? 916 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:31.079 Is that? 917 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:32.159 Am I right in saying that? 918 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.119 I think something like that? Yes, Sam, Yeah, so that's 919 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:38.159 it's disturbing too. 920 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.039 Yeah, so the kid goes missing, right, and again there's 921 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:46.719 another there's another part here that maybe I'm wrong. I 922 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.440 feel like was not really portrayed that well. They didn't 923 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:56.119 really explain that that was the case. So in like 924 00:46:56.199 --> 00:47:01.039 that old and witch lore, when in witches would come 925 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.239 and try to like kidnap babies. Essentially, they would always 926 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.400 look for a male baby, and they were looking for 927 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.039 like the baby fat you know when you see it 928 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.079 like a new born or a young baby, and he 929 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.679 looks like a little fucking chobby, like a little sumo wrestler. 930 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:25.239 And they would and it had to be it had 931 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.239 to be male. And they would basically kidnap these kids, 932 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.199 bring them back to their layer cave or wherever. But 933 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.639 also they had to be on they couldn't be baptized yet. 934 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.159 And they would take the fat from the child. They 935 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.320 would kill the child, take the fat from the child, 936 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:48.920 mix it in a pot with hemlock, nightshade and wolf 937 00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.360 spain and something else. 938 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.280 I've heard that before too. 939 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.400 To make an ointment right now. 940 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:57.000 Keep themselves young? Is that what the fucking chicks doing? 941 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.559 No right? And I had no idea about this. 942 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.239 So this whole. 943 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:08.119 Idea, this whole idea of you know, I think we 944 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.639 look at things like hocus Pocus and you're like, oh, yeah, 945 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:12.639 we'll just get on their brooms and fly, or they 946 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:13.800 get on a vacuum and fly. 947 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.440 I smell children. I don't know why everything's fucking weird 948 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:19.719 when you start doing Psychadolical's like, that's weird, man. And 949 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.159 then Maelan Manson made's album after it. 950 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.800 So apparently we just couldn't just fly. They couldn't just 951 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.519 pick up a broom and fly. So they needed the 952 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.920 baby fat to mix with all those other ingredients to 953 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.920 make what was known as a flying ointment, and they 954 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.400 would the room and then yeah, and then rob it 955 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.920 on I exactly rob it on the broom and then 956 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.719 it would through vaginas to freak out and that would 957 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:52.199 help fly. And apparently Robert Eagers or Eggers or whatever 958 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.760 way you pronounce his name, that was supposed to be 959 00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.880 like the the vague reasoning for the kid being kid. 960 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:03.559 That's crazy. He took it back to that because I 961 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.719 heard about that. Also, if like it's not really on 962 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.360 a broom, it's like waxed up and you think about this, 963 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.719 right you're taking you're killing something super innocent, You're doing 964 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.639 something that's against all nature. I don't know how to 965 00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:18.800 describe that. You know what I mean when people kill 966 00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.119 children and that thing happens within our society and ancient 967 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:24.559 cultures when it's like firstborn son, fuck you and they 968 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.400 toss them off a fucking cliff or you battle and 969 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.840 it's like both people will still die, but it's just 970 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.199 like it's just to see what happens, Like we're gonna 971 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.400 make you as battle and then sacrifice you both to 972 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.119 the gods. That whole thing has existed for fucking centuries. 973 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.159 So then the idea that you're doing something horrendous and 974 00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.360 then putting it towards some sort of demonic force and 975 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.719 if reality isn't as real as we think it is, 976 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.480 they could just start levitating and some sort of force 977 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.119 or dark energy allows them to levitate. And the idea 978 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.320 when the baby goes missing genuinely creeps me out. Where 979 00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.800 you're like in the scene and how they do it 980 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.000 that fucking she was playing Peek a boo for some reason, 981 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.519 she's super close to the woods and then she like 982 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.280 looks up and it's like, gone. 983 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.800 Yeah, and it's it's not done in like a Blair 984 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.000 which esque way it's done and I can't even like 985 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:24.719 And it's crazy considering this was his debut movie. It 986 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.320 really trailblazes the way it's like he created his own 987 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.599 style he did. It's so different I can't liken it 988 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:33.360 to anything else. 989 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:38.000 To me. The slight style slightly, I want to say, 990 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:43.599 just a bit, reminds me of movies like Midsommar and Hereditary, 991 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.840 where it's like one of those movies that is a 992 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.440 cinematic experience that you want to sit through once or 993 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.400 twice and it's unnerving and you don't want to it 994 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:55.239 can't repeatedly watch it, but how you the way you 995 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.159 watch it. When you watch it, it changes you, you 996 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.800 know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I definitely. 997 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:06.480 Put that in the category with them. And from there 998 00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.239 then I guess that's the catalyst that kind of sends 999 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.360 the entire movie into like this big downward spiral where 1000 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.000 it gets. 1001 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.320 So bad for everybody. I'm like, all the fuck, it's 1002 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:17.159 just like. 1003 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.239 The baby goes in and then yeah, like this, and 1004 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:26.920 I guess essentially for for a while, everybody's kind of 1005 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.559 blaming each other and we don't really know who's at 1006 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.119 fault or what's actually going on. Is there a witch? 1007 00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:37.440 Is there not a witch? Is there something else? Are 1008 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.519 they just fucking crazy? Is there another reason that they 1009 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:42.760 are out there on their own and they're not with 1010 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:43.320 the colony? 1011 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.320 That's what I was thinking the whole experience, And I 1012 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.679 remember this the first time I watched it. For the 1013 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:53.400 first most of the movie, I think until you see 1014 00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:01.159 the Witch subdue Caleb, I felt that I thought that 1015 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.119 they were just crazy. And the way that the atmosphere 1016 00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:11.039 builds up until you see what we'll get into is like, 1017 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.480 what's the Goat's name again? I fucking had. I was like, 1018 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.679 black Philip, Black Philip when he starts appearing more and 1019 00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.199 you have everyone like pointing fingers at each other. And 1020 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.559 it does start with like the twins and and well 1021 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.559 especially the female twins. And I was gonna say, just 1022 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:33.239 back to whoever these actresses and actors are the the 1023 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.320 two of them, it was so well done where you're like, 1024 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.519 how are you this childlike and annoying? And the their 1025 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.960 outfits that they were in made them look like little 1026 00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.159 like fairy people in my opinion, rushers. But it was 1027 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.559 weird the way it was done. How like in their 1028 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.639 their outfits there was chosen you know, you know what 1029 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:51.960 I mean? 1030 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.440 Somebody else. I was like, well, every time I look 1031 00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.719 at them, I'm like, is that a really old young person? 1032 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.199 A really young old person? I was like, it's like unsettling. 1033 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:09.320 Also on another side note, would would you let that 1034 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.960 witch in the woods because he sucks him off? 1035 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.760 Essentially to me, he like she subdues him. And that's 1036 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.079 what I was gonna talk to about when we were 1037 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.599 talking about earlier about the witches and this whole incarnation, 1038 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.199 That's what I wanted to kind of talk about a 1039 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.199 little bit of like witches being like grotesque and ugly 1040 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.400 kind of gets put into our our social subconscious right 1041 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.800 where sometimes but there's been recent movies and recent things 1042 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:38.079 where they like make witches like fucking sexy. Essentially, It's 1043 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.239 like there's older films were scarier and then they slowly 1044 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.760 progressed to making them like sexier and sexier. 1045 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.280 Caleb, you know when he when he meets that check 1046 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.320 for anyone who's looking at the video version, she's on 1047 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:55.360 screen right now. And Caleb when he sees her, obviously 1048 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:56.920 you know, he's. 1049 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:58.039 Never seen else. 1050 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.360 Yeah, he's been looking at his own sister is like 1051 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:04.760 nonexistent cleavage for his entire life. Yea, And now he 1052 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:09.639 sees this like big fat, titted fucking like yeah. So 1053 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.320 like he's like, I'm in the middle of a haunted 1054 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.199 woods who cares? This is the lottery. 1055 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.079 And he doesn't know what's going on either. I feel like, yeah, 1056 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:21.519 his brother went missing. He's looking for his brother. 1057 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.559 I am you know, I don't I don't blame him. 1058 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:27.440 I had a crusch for a long time on fucking 1059 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:29.239 what's her name from hocus Pocus? 1060 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.280 You fucking are you talking about Sarah Michelle Geller? 1061 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:37.800 Yeah, whichever is a blonde one. 1062 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.239 Yeah. I was talking about that. Oh my god last night. 1063 00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:42.639 I was like, you know what, the first one I 1064 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:46.119 find her semi attractive, and the new one in the 1065 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:50.360 new trailer. Bro, they all look fucked. Even my girlfriend 1066 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.719 was like, yeah, they look rough, every single one of them. 1067 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.880 And there's a necro line. I'm wearing all this fucking 1068 00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.639 stupid merch anyway, where he says when men get old 1069 00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.760 they blossom, when women get they start rotting, and it's 1070 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.039 a He's the most vulgar rapper for people. I don't know, 1071 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.760 it's like the most brutal rapper on earth where there 1072 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.079 is man can do this too, but there is some 1073 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.039 women that just don't age well. And it's just like, 1074 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:17.000 I don't know what it is there. Adrenochrome ran out. 1075 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.760 And what was it? Somebody told me before men age 1076 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:20.280 like wine, women. 1077 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:24.920 Like milkkerdle And I was gonna talk about this idea 1078 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:26.880 right of the beautiful sexy, which we've done this in 1079 00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:29.239 our pop culture now, right like women dress up. I get, 1080 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.920 I'm sure at bar crawl, but that's why it's always 1081 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.639 And even Chelsea pointed this out my fiance, She was like, 1082 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.199 why is it always naked old women? Why is that? Like? 1083 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.360 It's an unnerving thing. The movie which I was thinking 1084 00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:45.480 about we could talk about one day is The Visit. 1085 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.760 I think that's a movie. That movie fuse, it's it 1086 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:51.159 makes old people scary, Dude. 1087 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.719 I love that movie. Something that that genuinely scared the 1088 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:54.320 shit out of me. 1089 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:56.639 Me too, I was like, why it's naked old ladies? 1090 00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:57.599 Uh? 1091 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:02.039 Literally unnerve my fiel me. I'm like, it creeps me out. 1092 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.280 But it's like, why is it always? 1093 00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:06.679 Yeah, and straight away I had that vision of that 1094 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:07.599 scene in The Shine. 1095 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.719 Oh yeah, Well she's in the bathtub and you think 1096 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.639 she's an intracted woman, and as a kid watching that film, 1097 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.880 you're like, oh my god, it's hot chick. And then 1098 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.360 it gets disturbing where you're like one of those movies 1099 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.159 where you have to like pause and be like, Okay, 1100 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:23.400 I can't let this go any further, or I'm not 1101 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:25.880 going to produce any sticky white stuff is gonna say, 1102 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.599 you know what I mean, You're like, or my mind's 1103 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.559 gonna be shifted and I'm gonna grow up uh fucking 1104 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.280 chicks with them zombie masks on, you know what I mean? 1105 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.519 Or fifty year old met heads. 1106 00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.599 Yeah, it's like this is my kink now because it 1107 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.440 fucking fetishes for him when you're a fucking kid like 1108 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.239 of things like people I supposed to be after this 1109 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.960 before the people that you know enjoy furries as an 1110 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.880 off tension. They had some sort of sexual thing with 1111 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.000 their stuffed animal as a kid. It was like, I 1112 00:56:56.079 --> 00:57:00.599 see it all fucking comes back. This is such an 1113 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.840 off thing for this but strange. Yeah, so all these 1114 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.039 things kind of stick with you. And if you fucking 1115 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.320 think about witches, but this idea, right, and they made 1116 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.639 them fucking sexy. But there's the naked woman and it's 1117 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.360 specifically in the scene, so if you want to bring 1118 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.800 it to when they're kind of locking, there's Now it's 1119 00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.760 starting to get crazy, like because we talked about Caleb 1120 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.599 and what happens to Caleb. He fucking disappears as they 1121 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:27.760 go out into the forest. 1122 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:32.880 Right, so he Yeah, he comes across this witch again. 1123 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.159 Like I've seen people online talking about, you know, after 1124 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:41.239 everything that's gone on, how did he like, how did 1125 00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:42.880 he fall for that? And somebody was like, oh, she 1126 00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:44.800 must have like put a spell on him or whatever. 1127 00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:45.480 That's what it see. 1128 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:48.239 And it's like yeah, but even if she didn't, like, 1129 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.400 she's like, again he's looking at his sister's tits and 1130 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.880 now he has this big titted sexy witch like what 1131 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:58.639 was your old boys and be like oh no, no, no, 1132 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.920 I'm good, and she's like beckoning him all over I know. 1133 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:06.400 And this to me, the scene of when he walks 1134 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:12.840 up and then sees her makeshift wooden, creepy cabin, so 1135 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:14.480 I wish I had a picture of for the YouTube, 1136 00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.840 but look at it. It's it's strange, right, And then 1137 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:20.559 you see her open the door and come out, and 1138 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.400 you don't know what to expect, and it's like what 1139 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.519 you would think a witch would do, like which is 1140 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.440 supposed to be in this lord at least, and some 1141 00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.320 of it is stay young and that scene of just 1142 00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.320 like he's walking through the woods, there's nothing around, it's 1143 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.159 just like it's creepy. And I thought about this while 1144 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.880 I was watching it. Outside of the fact that there's 1145 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.039 settlements around these areas and you don't know who the 1146 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:45.920 fuck is in the woods that you live beside because 1147 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.519 everything is fairly new. There could be indigenous people, there 1148 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:53.280 could be weirdos. Who fucking knows who's within these woods. 1149 00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:57.320 That every different settlement and religion and people like that, 1150 00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:59.639 people are religious, like you know what I mean, like 1151 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:01.719 all these different things that you don't know who the 1152 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.199 fuck is in these woods and then he stumbles upon 1153 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.800 the house and that gave me chills. 1154 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:15.000 Also on the side, note about that scene, the I'm 1155 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.000 not sure of his name. The actor that plays Caleb 1156 00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.199 was like super nervous film in that scene. Really that 1157 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:25.480 was his first ever kiss. Oh shit, So it's like, 1158 00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.000 I mean, I think that's a pretty good claim to fame. Yeah, 1159 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.039 Like I don't know, he's probably quite a reserved kid, like, 1160 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:34.880 so he probably hasn't done any shit, like crazy shit 1161 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.639 like us commoners would do at that age. So like 1162 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:40.800 for him, I guess going back to his private school, 1163 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:42.760 it's probably a good like, oh you know, I kissed 1164 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:44.800 that like Big Fat did and sexy. 1165 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:47.960 Fucking chick from The Witch, And yeah, that's pretty funny 1166 00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:49.599 that I didn't know that he was this It was 1167 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.559 the first kiss ever and then he had to do 1168 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:52.920 on a film. 1169 00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:54.760 Yeah, with a grown woman. 1170 00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.559 Well, and it's just like the movie calls for because 1171 00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.840 at that time, and I've discussed about that before, right, 1172 01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:03.880 is like we only lived to a certain age, some 1173 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.039 people will die in their forties or fifties, so there 1174 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.000 was people like getting married like thirty year old men 1175 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:13.199 to like sixteen year old brides. Still happens in the world, 1176 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.199 but like back then, they didn't really know any better, 1177 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:18.280 and it was who was the most fertile, and that 1178 01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:21.480 this movie kind of reeks of that, like time error, 1179 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:23.559 you know what I mean. 1180 01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:29.719 Yeah, yeah, and so so Kle gets taken or whatever 1181 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:33.760 by this witch and then and then that night I 1182 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:38.039 think there's a storm and Thompson finds him outside of 1183 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:42.960 their house or whatever. This for me, like the whole 1184 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.480 thing was just like fucked up. From this point, I 1185 01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.719 was like, Okay, this has taken like a real turn 1186 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:53.119 now all of a sudden. So I think after that 1187 01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:56.199 we cut forward to I think it's the next day, 1188 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:59.960 and that's that's when, Yeah, the kids are like dance 1189 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.639 around with black Philip and they're like singing songs and 1190 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:11.039 just being like annoying. And then Thomas and I think, 1191 01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.159 goes to milk the ghost and like blood comes out. 1192 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:16.880 Of it and she's freaking out because they're also right. 1193 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.960 She threatens, as we kind of said earlier, her like 1194 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.400 her younger sister, and she like and tells her that 1195 01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:26.360 she's like a witch. She's like, I be the Witch 1196 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.559 of the woods. And she does this whole spiel to 1197 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.079 scare the shit out of her, her sister because they're 1198 01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.599 just annoying pests essentially, and they're out there all by 1199 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:39.880 themselves and you have these annoying, dancing, fucking children in 1200 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.800 large outfits that make him look fucking bizarre, and you 1201 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.559 know what I mean. And then she's like, she freaks 1202 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.400 her out. So there, ever, it's now they're starting to 1203 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:51.599 think it's witchcraft. There's superstition setting in. 1204 01:01:53.599 --> 01:02:00.880 Yeah. So at this point, then she she attempts to 1205 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.760 to mak the nanny go, she only gets blood. Then 1206 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:08.239 Caleb wakes up and vomits up an entire apple with 1207 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:09.239 a bite taking out of. 1208 01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.440 A How did you feel about that scene? 1209 01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:18.440 So that that whole scene, and I have to let 1210 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:21.280 me get that little guy's name. I need to find 1211 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:28.599 his name as he Yeah, because he was fucking fantastic. 1212 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:33.079 Oh that whole scene, Like that's good acting because you 1213 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.320 see him go through like pain and screaming and then 1214 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.440 as he's like literally in ecstasy, it seems like where 1215 01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:44.519 he's like like oh take me and all with all 1216 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:48.960 that shenanigans. He's fucking yelling, But yeah, it's like. 1217 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.360 Freaky man like he he goes through and and how 1218 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.519 he's able to do that The actor's name is Harvey 1219 01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:06.199 scrimshow weird name scripture, and how how he was able 1220 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:09.800 to do that? I have no idea the range of 1221 01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.559 emotions that he goes through there, And You're right, it 1222 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.480 like it goes from like being like you feel sorry 1223 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.639 for him to like going, oh wait, shit, is he 1224 01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.199 like possessed? Is he the devil? Is he? Is he 1225 01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.840 somehow a witch or warlock? Then it goes from that 1226 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.079 to like it looks like he's having an orgasm? In 1227 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:28.400 the fuck is going on? 1228 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:34.000 That? Especially outside that scene made me like visibly uncomfortable, 1229 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.719 where I was like, I don't like this. This is weird. 1230 01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:39.280 And he goes through all these fucked up emotions as 1231 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.480 he's like going through and to me, that's this is 1232 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:44.960 the part of the film where I'm like, is there 1233 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:47.400 not a witch? And he's going through a fever and 1234 01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.000 there's a sickness coming through like the whole theory of 1235 01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.639 ergot poisoning from the wheat being bad, and is he 1236 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:57.639 like hallucinating and dying from some sort of thing that 1237 01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:01.320 they've ingested or taken in these woods, you know what 1238 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.679 I mean. At that point in the film, I was like, like, 1239 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.400 is it actually saying she sees a witch? But like 1240 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:07.599 is it in his mind? 1241 01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:08.079 Maybe? 1242 01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.320 Like and that's until the ending round like it solidifies it, 1243 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:11.880 you know what I mean. 1244 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:17.000 Yeah, And I'm kind of I'm kind of pissed off 1245 01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.599 that I didn't actually pull a little bit of that 1246 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:22.800 audio from that scene, because it's like, I don't think 1247 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.760 we could sit here for two hours and just talk 1248 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.599 about that scene. I don't think we do it justice. 1249 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:31.719 It's genuinely like terrifying and not in like a weird 1250 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.920 like paranorm activity jump scare kind of like oh spooky 1251 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.239 witch doctor. It's like unbelievable. Like I was genuinely like 1252 01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.800 what the fuck? I was like, what is going on? 1253 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.400 One of the best I don't know if you could 1254 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:51.679 call it a possession scene, yeah, that I think I've 1255 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.920 ever seen. I mean, I would say so. I'm sure 1256 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:57.840 people will think of things, you know, like the Last 1257 01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.800 Exorcism and the ex or sist in all these different movies. 1258 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.039 But I'm gonna go on record and say that this 1259 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:12.360 could potentially be the best performance. I agree in one 1260 01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:13.920 of those scenes of all. 1261 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:17.519 Time, I think that he does fairly like I actually 1262 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:19.559 think that it is one of the best too, because 1263 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:23.960 it does make you uncomfortable. I think that was the 1264 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.480 purpose of it, where you he goes through such an 1265 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.760 a range of motions so quickly that you're like and 1266 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:32.519 and there's some part of the film when you're watching 1267 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:36.039 it you're like, oh, like he's gonna survive this. It's 1268 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.360 just like a sickness, you know what I mean. And 1269 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.119 then he just dies after he's like in ecstasy. It 1270 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.840 seems like like take me and to me, it's not 1271 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.880 like I'm like trying to decipher if it's Jesus or 1272 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.239 like religion, the Lord that he's connected to, and then you, 1273 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:51.360 to me, you kind of realize that it's probably her 1274 01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.280 and then possessing him to essentially drain his energy and 1275 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:56.039 maybe kill him. 1276 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:05.159 Yeah, So from this point then he I suppose what 1277 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:11.360 he he proclaims his love for Christ kind of yeah, 1278 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:12.800 and it just dies. 1279 01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.880 Yeah, It's like, yeah, that Jesus. It's I feel like, 1280 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:17.559 that's why I'm saying it. It seems like he was 1281 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:19.760 calling upon some religious deity. 1282 01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.840 So from there then the dad starts to believe that 1283 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.559 Thomasin is a witch. He tells her that she'll be 1284 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.800 put on trial when they were returned to town, which 1285 01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:36.400 seems like a weird remark because it's like, well, I 1286 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.599 don't think you have any intention of returning to that colony, 1287 01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:41.320 and it to. 1288 01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:43.480 Me it seems like is it his fault that they're there? 1289 01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.679 The whole idea was like why is the witch after him? 1290 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:47.280 To me? 1291 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:50.880 And I in it's other folklore that brings me this conclusion, 1292 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.920 and movies like The Bell Witch where it's like, was 1293 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.840 it something well the movie and the whole experience that 1294 01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.159 the Bell Witch was in our history, was it something 1295 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.000 he did to bring upon this curse? 1296 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.079 Yeah? 1297 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:09.719 Maybe Chelsea's like, maybe he fucked her. That's what Chelsea said, 1298 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.320 that maybe he she maybe he fucked the witch. 1299 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:19.039 And I was like, ah, and I am I would 1300 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.559 agree with that. There's definitely something I think underlying there 1301 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:23.679 with him. And that's why, like I said earlier about 1302 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.920 like he's such like he seems like such a bitch 1303 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.880 of like his personality and he seems like really shitty 1304 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:37.360 and kind of sneaky, he yeah, he so. Then thomasin 1305 01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:39.400 points out like all the ship that he's done wrong. 1306 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.280 She starts to accuse the twins of like retaliating because 1307 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.039 of the trick she played on them. You know, she says, 1308 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:53.639 the Black Phillip is is essentially the devil. Yes, So 1309 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:57.079 then the dad's like really pissed off, can't figure out 1310 01:07:57.159 --> 01:07:59.320 who the culprit is, even though personally I think the 1311 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.599 entire thing is fault. So he decides to as as 1312 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:05.599 any man would do with his kids, is locked them 1313 01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:06.239 all in the. 1314 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:08.840 Shed with the goat that they think is the devil. 1315 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.360 Yeah, until further knows and there's like some yeah, there's 1316 01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.600 like they have some dialogue while they're in the shed. 1317 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:18.680 Thomas and asked the twins, you know, did they really 1318 01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:22.920 talk to Black Philip. They don't answer, and she overhears 1319 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:28.039 William I think is the dad's name. She overhears him, 1320 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.680 I guess confessingto God or whoever, like, you know, yeah, 1321 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:37.119 it's his own fault. He was so stubborn. He that's 1322 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.119 what got them out of the village. It wasn't anything 1323 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.319 to do with like his being devoted to his religion. 1324 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.319 Do you remember what the mom's going through in this scene. 1325 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:50.800 Also that scene okay for everybody if you like, you know, 1326 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:53.880 people are tuning in and that can not see some 1327 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.479 of the imagery that we're showing. Is that scene where 1328 01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:02.479 she is essentially hallucinating because of some sort of witchcraft. 1329 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:04.199 That's why part of me was like, is it the 1330 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.159 sickness from like ergot poisoning or some sort of thing 1331 01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.760 that they ate where she thinks she she's in so 1332 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:14.640 much guilt, in so much turmoil. She turns and sees 1333 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.840 Caleb with the baby Sam and talking to her, and 1334 01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:21.560 then what do you remember what she does next? 1335 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.520 That that whole thing, right, And I had seen people 1336 01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:33.439 talking about I mentioned earlier about the witch's teeth thing. Yeah, 1337 01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:36.960 I don't. I don't know. Some people are like, oh, 1338 01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:40.920 that that's what it is. Other people say that, no, 1339 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.640 it's just the Ravens like turning her tit off or whatever, 1340 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:48.159 like pecking her tit. That that again, And I don't know, 1341 01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:50.960 and it shouldn't probably because it's not actually like that 1342 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:56.399 grotesque running but that whole like two three minutes of 1343 01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:01.079 that scene like really fucking bay me on comfortable. 1344 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.880 Me too, where like you start to okay at first 1345 01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:04.720 because I haven't seen this in a while. It's kind 1346 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.880 of like weird, Like Chelsea's even like because I watched 1347 01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:11.199 it with my Fianza is like she's like like she's hallucinating, 1348 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.760 like she's not seeing this stuff. And then I forgot 1349 01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:15.840 about that scene. It's fine where it just kind of 1350 01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.800 like just turns to her and she's wanting to essentially 1351 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:22.319 take the baby and nourish it by using her tit. 1352 01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:26.079 And then it cuts to the scene where you see 1353 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.920 what's really going on and she's holding nothing and a 1354 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:33.359 fucking crow or some sort of raven is fucking pecking 1355 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:37.239 and ripping apart her nipple, and then then then that 1356 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.119 can like it's such a disturbing scene. And then when 1357 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.359 it comes to the next day where she's just like 1358 01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.720 laying on her side like she took too many fucking 1359 01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.720 psychedelics or some sort of bad drug in it's just like, whoa, 1360 01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.960 Like what happened last night? Like that scene I was 1361 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.479 like laying there afterwards, I'm like because part of me 1362 01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:57.960 during that scene was like, she's gonna die. This is 1363 01:10:58.000 --> 01:10:59.760 where she dies, you know what I mean? 1364 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:07.760 Mm hmm, And just the expressions on her face, Yeah, 1365 01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:09.840 she's like laughing because I was looking at I was like, 1366 01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:12.119 is that like a laugh? Is it a cry? I 1367 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.039 was like, that shit's gonna like haunt me. I'm gonna 1368 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:18.159 have nightmares about that. Yes, that that's one of those 1369 01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.239 things that like, uh, just the flash of that image 1370 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:25.520 of her sticks in my mind where I'm like, that 1371 01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:26.840 is such a fuck dumb. 1372 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:34.600 Visual to me. It's the same way that Hereditary when 1373 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:37.800 the chick's head gets lopped off, whether driving that same 1374 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.119 sort of feeling where it's just a cut scene and 1375 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.840 then you're like holy fuck, like and then it takes 1376 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:49.640 like and it shows something super graphic and disturbing and 1377 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:51.960 then cuts to something else after like you know what 1378 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.079 I mean, Like especially you're like bred Terry did it 1379 01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.359 more like a little different but this and how it 1380 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.000 doesn't show what happens later. It just shows her on 1381 01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:01.159 her side, woke up like, oh ship would I do 1382 01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:01.760 last night? 1383 01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:11.399 Yeah? And so from from from this point, yeah, let 1384 01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:11.800 me see what. 1385 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:13.600 You want to talk about the shed scene or they're 1386 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.520 like it locked in the fucking weird shed thing. 1387 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:22.840 Yeah, so where let me see. So we've talked about 1388 01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:26.920 the raven pecking, her taste all that stuff, so then 1389 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.319 right after there what happens? 1390 01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.319 Don't they get? They're locked in the shed and the 1391 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.560 twins are like, you know, they're just chilling, and then 1392 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.359 all of a sudden or they're like laying there, they're 1393 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:38.760 talking and be like do you be a witch? And 1394 01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.760 they're like no, and then they're like, I'm not a 1395 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:43.199 witch either. Like she like Thomasin tells them like, hey, 1396 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:46.800 like are you into like like are you part of this? 1397 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.159 Are you actually the witches? Because everyone's pointing things at 1398 01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:52.920 each other, nobody knows who's doing what. The fact that 1399 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:59.680 the younger fucking twin the female she she says that 1400 01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:03.039 she sees the witch outside of the woods earlier, like 1401 01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:04.199 that she talks to her. 1402 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:04.680 Yeah. 1403 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.840 So then Thomasin is like the it come the movie 1404 01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.159 very much comes from her point of view of more 1405 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:15.239 or less being the more sane person that's kind of outcasted, 1406 01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.680 and you know, she's essentially if the mom dies, she 1407 01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:21.800 has to be the female figure in the family, if 1408 01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:23.319 there's disease all, you know what I mean? 1409 01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.039 Yeah, And you know what's really interesting actually about you 1410 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.279 saying that you know about essentially the entire thing has 1411 01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:33.760 been shown from her point of view. The original The 1412 01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:37.439 original structure when he first wrote the movie was broken 1413 01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:41.239 into five acts, and each act was going to be 1414 01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.439 told from the perspective of a different family member. 1415 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.319 That would have been interesting. There's that movie that came 1416 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:52.920 out the Night Something the Green. I mean, it's told 1417 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:56.000 from all these different perspectives. This movie in medieval times 1418 01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.680 with who plays fucking the guy from Star Wars with 1419 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.600 the fuck red lightsaber new one, Kyla Wren? What the 1420 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.640 fuck's his name? I'll actually like him a lot. 1421 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:06.359 Adam Driver. 1422 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.319 So yes, do you know what film I'm talking about. 1423 01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:13.439 It's like Adam Driver, Matt Damon, and Ben Affleck are 1424 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:15.920 in it, and he's kind of an asshole in the film, 1425 01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.760 but it shows it through all these three different people's 1426 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:23.399 perspectives of how this chick got essentially fucking raped, and 1427 01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:27.039 it's it was a strange film and everyone praises it. 1428 01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.279 The ending was the best part, and it's like the 1429 01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.920 last je Last Duel. Yeah, that's it. That's it, And 1430 01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:37.000 if you haven't seen it, it's worth watching at least 1431 01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.840 once you'll see what I'm saying that. It's like you 1432 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.760 can't always tell it from three different perspectives, and I'm 1433 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.520 glad of what he did, because I don't know if 1434 01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.159 it would have been too much for the film to 1435 01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:50.039 tell it from all these different perspectives. 1436 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:51.760 Yeah, yeah, because you gets with one. 1437 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.319 Yeah, you get one version essentially of how she's seeing 1438 01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:00.600 what's happening, and you more or less she because I 1439 01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.720 said to Chelsea, I listened that book to lave one 1440 01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.800 and that was a lot of David Wilcox books and 1441 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:11.239 read them and he talks about how there's always in 1442 01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.600 movies there's the arc right where it's just like there 1443 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:18.079 has to be a climax. There has to be essentially 1444 01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.199 like you build up a character which the audience resonates 1445 01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:24.520 with's the hero's journey is what this is called, and 1446 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:27.880 it's within all cinema essentially that if you understand it 1447 01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:32.520 that it's within every single movie. This one fucking strays 1448 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:34.840 away from that a little bit where you're like everyone's 1449 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.880 gonna die. This is like going down this direction and 1450 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:40.560 like it's just going like horribly bad, where I'm like, 1451 01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.920 there is no hero's journey until you kind of realize 1452 01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:46.319 the end where you're like maybe the witches are the 1453 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:47.479 good guys, you know. 1454 01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:47.960 What I mean? 1455 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:52.520 Yeah, the way the story arc of this film is strange. 1456 01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:58.960 And so from that point, then the dad William wakes up. 1457 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.760 He finds the Gold House destroid. All the golds are 1458 01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:07.720 all like and the twins are missing, and then Thomason 1459 01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:11.159 is like unconscious. I think she's like covered in blood. Yeah, 1460 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.000 she wakes up and I think they have a small 1461 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:24.359 bit of dialogue and then Black Philip comes out of nowhere, and. 1462 01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:23.920 It is that scene is also crazy. We're like the 1463 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.560 Dad's talking to her and like like you know, like 1464 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.760 where is everybody? The twins disappear and then she's like, 1465 01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.520 I can't explain it kind of thing. She's like she 1466 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.600 can't when she says the line she came from the sky. 1467 01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.520 That's where I was like, that gave me chills, Like 1468 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:41.520 that idea that like a witch comes in out of 1469 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.239 nowhere in those times, especially with the idea that they 1470 01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:48.680 truly believed in a demonic force, which does exist to 1471 01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:52.119 some extent, but like it's this idea and then Black 1472 01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:56.039 Philip essentially retaliates in some weird way of this all 1473 01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.439 this negative energy and fucking gives the dad some sort 1474 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:02.079 of karma you could say, and fucking pins him and 1475 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.000 it's just like, it's a disturbing it's super disturbed. It's 1476 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:07.439 a bad scene, a god scene, like bad in the 1477 01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:08.800 way of the way it makes you feel. 1478 01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:17.159 Yeah. And then from there the murder what's her name Catherine? 1479 01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:22.800 Is it Catherine something like that because he's Yeah, she 1480 01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:29.920 appears from nowhere and basically accuses Thomasin of causing the 1481 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:34.520 entire thing. It says that she seduced the dad and 1482 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:37.960 Caleb and that's what she was always doing and goes 1483 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.960 to attacker. 1484 01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:41.359 You're the witch. Yeah, it's all you, and she freaks out. 1485 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.880 It's every scene in this movie I think is very 1486 01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:48.159 well done in the emotion that it invokes. 1487 01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:56.560 And Thomasin proceeds to kill her with what did it call. Yeah, 1488 01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:02.800 it's like a sickle or a bill hook something like that. Yeah, 1489 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.920 So she kills her in self defense. 1490 01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:07.439 I suppose that's what I thought. Mean, Like when me 1491 01:18:07.479 --> 01:18:10.520 and my girlfriend watching were like, hey, so she has 1492 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.720 something in her hand. She already hits you once, okay, 1493 01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:17.840 and you're so focused on choking Thomasin to death her 1494 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:21.199 own child that you don't realize that she can just 1495 01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.600 hit you again. And she gets to the point where 1496 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.560 she's choking her that Thomasin essentially has no other reaction 1497 01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:31.520 but to retaliate because you're gonna die. You have that 1498 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.920 fight or flight instinct from your reptilitian core of your brain, 1499 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:38.159 and then you just fucking hit. And that scenms fuck too, 1500 01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.439 because that's at the moment where you realize the twins 1501 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:45.920 are gone, her dad's dead, and you just killed your 1502 01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:46.439 own mother. 1503 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.479 It's so like it's when you hear someone talk about it, 1504 01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:56.039 it's like, oh, I don't really I just feel like 1505 01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:59.800 you can't do it. Ential does you really need to 1506 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.840 it to? Actually? Like, because I think everyone will have 1507 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:07.479 their own, maybe little version of how they interpret everything. 1508 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:10.600 I don't think everybody will see the movie exactly the 1509 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:12.760 same way. There's going to be something at some point 1510 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.039 that you might feel. 1511 01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:14.920 That somebody else does. 1512 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:20.279 She feel like, yeah, everything, man, And I'm going to 1513 01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:24.279 read this bit. I copy and pasted this exactly from 1514 01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:28.880 the the plot breakdown because I feel like it tells 1515 01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:32.000 the last little bit really well and again just adds 1516 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:34.520 to like how like bizarre and out there, this whole 1517 01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:40.840 thing is so now alone. Thomasin hears chiming and enters 1518 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.159 the stable, where she urges Black Philip to speak to her. 1519 01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.920 The goat responds in a human voice, asking if she 1520 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:51.319 would like to live deliciously in a life of luxury, 1521 01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.520 and then materializes into a tall, black clad man. He 1522 01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:57.840 tells Thomasin to her remove her clothes and sign her 1523 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:01.159 name in a book that appears before her. Thomasin then 1524 01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:05.479 follows Black Philip into the forest nude, where she joins 1525 01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.119 a coven holding a witch's sabbath around a bond for 1526 01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:11.880 the witches begin to levitate, and Thomasin joins them, laughing 1527 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:16.000 maniacally and ascending above the trees with her newfound sense 1528 01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:20.279 of belonging, which again that there for some reason, and 1529 01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:23.159 I don't know why because it's not really that made 1530 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:25.199 me like that give me chills. 1531 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:29.840 That whole scene we're showing a clip of when everyone 1532 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:34.439 starts lifting in the air. Now, that whole scene me, 1533 01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:36.439 even my girlfriend was like, I don't want to know 1534 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:39.359 what the fuck she's She's like, there's something behind her 1535 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:43.199 because it doesn't show anything. Okay, it doesn't show you 1536 01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.880 what the goat turns into. It doesn't really. It just 1537 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:50.199 shows shadows and kind of footsteps and you just kind 1538 01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:52.760 of see legs, which more or less to me seem 1539 01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:58.520 like goat hood legs, like the iconic baphomett devil right, 1540 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.640 the whole, the whole imagination sparks, and like, I love films. 1541 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:05.479 And my grandfather was very into horror, but hated the 1542 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:09.760 slasher films, okay, but he liked those old films. He's like, 1543 01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:11.359 he's like, tell me to watch you know, the original 1544 01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:13.399 House on the Hanta Hill. And he liked abin A 1545 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:16.920 Costello Meet Frankenstein. Where I kind of left your mind 1546 01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:20.560 to the imagination with certain older films, Psycho kind of 1547 01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:22.319 does it. But as these films that I kind of 1548 01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.279 allow you to think in these psychological thrillers is how 1549 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.359 they were done. It leaves everything up to the imagination. 1550 01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.119 And when we had the speaker behind us, okay, I 1551 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.279 hook it up to the project to a big speaker 1552 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:38.359 that I have and then he's like, you hear the 1553 01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.680 goat start whispering and talking to her like would you 1554 01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:44.800 like to live outside of this? And in talking to her, 1555 01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.760 it creeped the shit out of me. It left me. 1556 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.319 I'm saying this movie left me in so many ideas 1557 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:55.560 in the thoughts that I had, I was gonna say, 1558 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:59.359 I looked up this chick after do you find Thomason 1559 01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:04.279 the actor Air and Taylor some fucking shit. She's I 1560 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:07.479 think she's fairly attractive. I looked her up. I was like, oh, wow, 1561 01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:10.720 she's like an attractive chick. And she does a lot 1562 01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.520 of other movies that I didn't know that she was in, 1563 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:14.000 and I'm like, oh, she's in this and that, and 1564 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:18.920 I was like, weird, Yeah, yeah, no, she is Anna 1565 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:19.600 Taylor something. 1566 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.600 What's your name, Anna Anya Taylor Joy? 1567 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:26.159 Yeah, and she's and other stuff where I'm like, ah, 1568 01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:28.520 and she And that's why if you see a yukuper 1569 01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:30.640 ibmd is how you say it? Fucking other those she 1570 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.920 is you see that it's she might be associated with 1571 01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:39.960 the nos Faratu film. So in that scene to like, 1572 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:42.399 as we're talking about, that's the scene where it changes 1573 01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:44.720 the entire experience of the film where like, and then 1574 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.039 obviously I'm feeling weird things. I find her attractive, and 1575 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:49.439 then she's like she gets naked and you can kind 1576 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:51.720 of just see the glimmer of her ass and you're like, 1577 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.479 and that idea of like this chick, it's for men, 1578 01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:56.920 you know, females. You don't really make me understand if 1579 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.359 you don't feel these things, but like this idea of 1580 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:02.319 a woman's being naked walking into the woods, where it's 1581 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.920 like you're open and more free. Like I've always joked 1582 01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:07.880 that if I was really as comfortable, if I was 1583 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.119 more fit, maybe I would be a nudist. I'd go 1584 01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:11.960 to a nudist colony. He wouldn't bother me that much, 1585 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:15.159 especially because I do psychedelic and stuff where I'm like, 1586 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:16.680 you know, if everyone was just cool with each other 1587 01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.560 and then it's just the human body, so that the 1588 01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:22.880 experience of her just walking into and that feeling right 1589 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:27.279 of exposing yourself to the all the elements, and that's 1590 01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:31.039 what I'd like. Witchcraft at his core is essentially like 1591 01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.239 becoming one with nature in some dark capacity, because that's 1592 01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:39.399 what the whole folcal around which is is. And back 1593 01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:41.439 when I actually finished high school, I went back to 1594 01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:43.680 school to finish because I was working in other things. 1595 01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.319 I talked to this girl and she was older than me, 1596 01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:50.520 trying to finish up school in her thirties, and she 1597 01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.439 is a Wickan and a new age witch. And she 1598 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.319 said that she goes to the parties in Ottawa, parties, 1599 01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.199 so to speak. But the Sabbath is the Sabbath, Black 1600 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:03.880 Sabbath war. Literally they dance around the forest, uh naked 1601 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.520 a bunch of people that believe in this stuff, and 1602 01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:08.800 they still use it to this day. 1603 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.800 I mean I would do what, I'd probably sign that 1604 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.079 fucking book if Thomasin was on the other side of that. 1605 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.920 And that's and I've said this before to Chelsea, right, 1606 01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:24.199 So my idea of how that exists, right is to me, 1607 01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:27.119 celebrities do this. I believe you can sell your soul. 1608 01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:32.760 So and this is what these witches are doing, is 1609 01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:36.439 they're coming into the woods, right and and they're doing 1610 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.800 these all sorts of witchcraft to gain them something in 1611 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:41.279 this physical existence. Right. I believe this shit about like 1612 01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:44.680 why Beyonce is associated with the Illuminati and these celebrities 1613 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.520 that sell their soul for fame and fortune. Here you 1614 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.159 get all of that, right, but in the next reality, 1615 01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:54.720 you'll have to experience something horrible to essentially cleanse your karma. 1616 01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:57.560 That's how I see it. Do you know what I mean? 1617 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.960 Does that sound that's a that's a scary talk for 1618 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.159 all those people I. 1619 01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.600 Know, because you're here to you physically sell your soul 1620 01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:08.000 to because everyone says like this person sold her soul 1621 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:10.560 to the devil. That idea of that what's his name, 1622 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.640 Robert Johnson that played that riff and got the devil 1623 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:18.000 to possess him to become this amazing guitar player and 1624 01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:20.760 at the crossroads, and that idea that essentially here in 1625 01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:23.720 this physical world, you sell yourself. That's why I believe 1626 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:28.000 Witchcraft could be to this demonic power if you sign 1627 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.600 your soul to the devil or sign your thing in 1628 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:34.640 the book. And even at the ending of watching it, 1629 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:36.479 Chelsea was like, we're talking about go. She was like 1630 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:38.720 looking at me, Austrain, and she's like, you're gonna have 1631 01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:40.880 to sign the book tonight because I was like she 1632 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.319 knew I was visibly freaked out more than her, and 1633 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.399 she's like, I didn't find that freaking I was like, well, 1634 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.239 Eda Graham, and then tell me what you think. 1635 01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:51.880 I don't think I would have been able for that, 1636 01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:55.239 to be honest, if I had the reaction I did 1637 01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:57.680 while Little Solber, I can't imagine what it would have 1638 01:25:57.720 --> 01:25:58.000 been like. 1639 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.760 Well, this end of the film, right, like, I want 1640 01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:03.560 to hear more of your thoughts about like, because the 1641 01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:05.159 end of the film is to me, the best part 1642 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:07.159 where you're starting to realize, like, hey, who's these and 1643 01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:09.880 then makes you think though it leaves you thinking who 1644 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.560 are these other women that come into the shot? And 1645 01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:16.760 then you see Black Philips standing there and essentially he's 1646 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.800 supposed to represent the devil and they all like and 1647 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:22.359 then she is naked and everyone's naked in this black sabbath, 1648 01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.760 and then she starts to realize right that she's like, 1649 01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:29.479 she's now part of this. She signed the book, and 1650 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:33.760 she the way they filmed her fucking face and the 1651 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:37.119 way her face changes, especially when I was watching Outside Mushrooms, 1652 01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.880 is the way he filmed it was incredible because it 1653 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:45.520 shows this demonic looking face and how you see her 1654 01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:50.239 faces like ecstasy and in all enjoyment of what every 1655 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.399 pleasure sense is going off in your brain essentially in 1656 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.000 the way she and you see her lifting. I want 1657 01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.960 to hear more of what you think about that scene, 1658 01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:01.680 because that shit like stayed with me. Yeah, And. 1659 01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:05.720 Before I get into that, there's something I wanted to 1660 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:07.399 touch on that I've seen a lot of people talking 1661 01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:13.199 about throughout the movie, this idea of you know, why 1662 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:18.479 she part of this for the entire movie. Some people 1663 01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.960 reckon that she was It wasn't just there that she 1664 01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:27.600 she finally submitted or whatever, But I can't help but 1665 01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.840 feel that, you know, she seems innocent in many of 1666 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:35.279 the things that she's accused of, yes by her family 1667 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.199 throughout the movie. But I think you could argue that, 1668 01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:41.640 like horror, constantly being hounded like that and kind of 1669 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:47.960 pushed to that degree is what eventually caused her to 1670 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:50.600 turn to the dark arts in a way. And I 1671 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:53.680 think it kind of harkens back to, like, you know, 1672 01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:59.000 I loosely research some I guess real life stories and 1673 01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:00.720 it seemed to be a similar thing. Like you said, 1674 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.439 it was very easy to just be like, yeah, she's 1675 01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:07.079 a witch, and there is actually a lot of cases 1676 01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:09.399 of people being the women being accused of being a 1677 01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:12.239 witch or whatever that eventually had like I don't know 1678 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:14.760 whether it's some sort of like a psychotic breakdown or whatever, 1679 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.560 and basically just went yeah, I am. 1680 01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.399 Eventually admit because like, okay, it's like those tortures right 1681 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:26.039 where they torture prisoners and people to be like are 1682 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:28.239 you a part of al Qaida? And then just keep 1683 01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:30.279 doing it and eventually like how do I get myself 1684 01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:33.319 out of this? Your brain reverts to like I need 1685 01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:35.920 to say whatever they want me to say. This is 1686 01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:38.479 a good way to talk about it. Okay, Brandon Dacy 1687 01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:43.239 Okay in that famous yeah making him because essentially they 1688 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:46.279 just co opted him. That's the way I used to 1689 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:49.399 say these things because he was someone who was not 1690 01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:52.079 of a high intellect, and the court is I didnt 1691 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.239 when I was a kid where they were like, you 1692 01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:56.720 just need to admit everything, and I was just spewing 1693 01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.640 on as a kid to the cops when I was 1694 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:00.960 like fifteen, you can't do that shit. You have to 1695 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:02.800 make sure a lawyer. My mom was pissed because she's like, 1696 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:05.399 shouldn't there be a parent there or something, because I 1697 01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:07.319 was just like like, ah, yeah, I did this, I'm 1698 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:10.520 sorry to And it's just like they don't tell you 1699 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.159 need a cop around, so like essentially you're just like 1700 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.760 putting people in this box and eventually they're gonna say 1701 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:20.640 something just to satisfy this bullshit. And that's why I turned. 1702 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:22.640 I thought that same thing where it's like you pushed 1703 01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:26.920 her to this, she has nothing left, yeah, which. 1704 01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.479 Is like yeah, like if you look at it from 1705 01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.479 that point of view, like, Okay, her decision to sign 1706 01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:35.720 The Devil's Book I think it makes a lot of sense. 1707 01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:40.640 She spent her entire life, I'm assuming, being made to 1708 01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:45.399 like devote herself to God and her faith blindly, without 1709 01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:49.119 any real like you know, other than her parents probably 1710 01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:51.520 being like this is what we do. She has no 1711 01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:53.079 real reason to follow. 1712 01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:57.039 No, And I've had that thing, Like I was never religious, right, 1713 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.479 I went to church a couple of times. I hated 1714 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:02.880 fucking the Sunday bull. Should they make kids do it? 1715 01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:04.399 What was it called Sunday class or whatever? 1716 01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:05.000 Yes? 1717 01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:08.079 And after this many times we're like I was like six, seven, 1718 01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:10.319 eight years old. The church that we were at started 1719 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:12.800 talking about how gay people are bad, and I have 1720 01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:14.479 a gay uncle, and I was like, all right, like 1721 01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:16.720 my mom, Well, my mom was like all right, we're leaving. 1722 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:18.840 And I never took anything from that. I was always 1723 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.000 kind of spiritual. My grandma was the one that gave 1724 01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:25.760 me my first Ouiji board. But there was something that 1725 01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:31.520 about religion where like this sums off here you have 1726 01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:32.760 good intentions, but. 1727 01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:40.560 Yeah, it's you know, and I think if we're talking 1728 01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:45.920 specifically about about Thomasin and these people, and you know, 1729 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:51.600 she follows this fad blindly, I'm assuming, you know, at 1730 01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:53.960 the instruction of her parents or whatever. It's just like 1731 01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:56.520 the dumb thing, that's what they do. And you know 1732 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.159 what does she get real art of which she gets 1733 01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:02.039 cast from the column or you know, or her dad 1734 01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:05.520 foxed that up for then her entire family turned against 1735 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:09.960 her and essentially create the thing that they fear the most. 1736 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:16.119 They become that I guess fearful of, like satan and 1737 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.960 curses and witches. It was so deeply instilled in their 1738 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.720 fate that it actually causes them to abandon any rational task. 1739 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:28.960 They turn on Thomason and basically turn her into the 1740 01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:30.319 thing they fear the most. 1741 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.960 And it's funny to bring it full circle, a full circle, 1742 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:35.640 because essentially that's why I said what you fear, you 1743 01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:38.960 bring near. So the fact that like and say this 1744 01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:42.560 was based on some it is. The movie is based 1745 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:47.079 on a bunch of different stories and the director specifically 1746 01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:51.119 went very deep into this lore and probably made one 1747 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:54.920 of the most disturbing yet greatest iconic witch films that 1748 01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:57.760 I think will ever exist. In the time and the 1749 01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:01.760 feeling of that place of being you're you're not in 1750 01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.359 like you know, people from Ireland, Scotland, Britain, we're all 1751 01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:09.840 sending here towards Canada and North America, and you had 1752 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.279 left your old life behind to hopefully have a better 1753 01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:15.359 life in that religious field, you know what I mean, 1754 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.640 where like everyone is scared and everyone is in fear, 1755 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:23.119 and then you're gonna essentially if something you don't understand, 1756 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:26.880 like people thinking differently in a very time of strict religion, 1757 01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:28.720 then you start to point the finger at them. 1758 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:33.720 Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think out of all 1759 01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:40.560 those cases that there was, I was inspiration taken from. 1760 01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:43.560 I think the one I'm not sure I've sent it 1761 01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:51.119 to you there. I don't have to pronounce that Zugara Zugara, murdy. 1762 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:54.039 Zu gotta murray. Sure, Yeah, I can't pronounce you on 1763 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:55.720 this podcast. That's why I'm so cringey. 1764 01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:04.000 But so the that's it was this zugaram mardi, which 1765 01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:08.520 burning process, which was in sixteen ten, I think in 1766 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:13.439 the Spanish Inquisition is actually what majority is based on. 1767 01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.800 That was like some time before Salem as far as 1768 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:16.039 I know. 1769 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:18.680 Yeah, and I would like to talk about this on 1770 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:21.239 another episode for sure, like it will eventually come on 1771 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:24.319 Stranger podcast now that I consider you one of the 1772 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:28.600 co hosts, is that I want to talk more about 1773 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:30.520 like the idea of which is more than we'll do 1774 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.359 even here, and the history of it specifically, because a 1775 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:40.159 lot of the burnings come from a time back in 1776 01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:45.399 like France and you know, earlier times, and it came 1777 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:49.680 from European culture where mostly we were not burning people. 1778 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:54.800 We were hanging them. Most times we're hanging them, like 1779 01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:57.800 I would be curious if someone which has had the guillotine. 1780 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.560 But to me, what I've read and understood is that 1781 01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:05.159 most times in least North America and where I am, 1782 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.920 they would hang them or like and I know that existed, 1783 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:10.479 and it's not as much as people think it is. 1784 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:12.399 Where they drown them too. They put them in a 1785 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:14.479 chair and tie them to the chair and they push 1786 01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:16.359 them in the wire and be like, all right, if 1787 01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:20.119 you surface, you're a witch. If you die, we know 1788 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:20.920 you're not a witch. 1789 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:24.640 Cool, great deal, thanks, Like. 1790 01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:25.880 You know what I mean, do you want to like 1791 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.760 you know where I'm going with this thought is like, Yeah, 1792 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:30.920 it wasn't as prevalent this witch burning thing that we 1793 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.560 have in our culture of what people associate with, which 1794 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.920 is as actually people think it was. 1795 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.520 Yeah, no for sure, And I think it's just something 1796 01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:47.119 like that I suppose seemed as like the most commercial, 1797 01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:50.560 like crazy looking image would be being tied to a 1798 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:54.319 steak and being burned a life. The Satanic Temple actually 1799 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:59.720 endorsed this film, and their spokesperson was noted as saying, 1800 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:04.640 it's and an impressive presentation of Satanic insights that will 1801 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:08.079 inform contemporary discussion of religious experience. 1802 01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:11.800 That's funny you talking about there. What's is the milky 1803 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.119 eyed dude that runs the Satanic Temple now? And you 1804 01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:19.000 know what I'm talking about? Yeah, what's his name? It's like, 1805 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:20.960 I like I and to me at the beginning of 1806 01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:23.119 this podcast, because what I was into, I had the 1807 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:26.039 Satanic Bible. I have it somewhere beside me. I write 1808 01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.399 in the Satanic Bible, and I would talk about and 1809 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.239 Anton's like you said it on the episode that you 1810 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:32.199 were a Satanist, because now I say, I don't subscribe 1811 01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:34.720 to anything and I and I never really have. Well, 1812 01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:36.239 I thought it was edgy had a time where I 1813 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.600 was learning about back in the day a couple of 1814 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.279 years ago. Learning about Satanism is essentially like to me, 1815 01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.600 at least, Anton LaVey's Satanism is just based on Okay, 1816 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:48.079 you're a god in your own right, which I've thought beforehand, 1817 01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:49.880 before I ever got the Satanic Bible. There's this guy 1818 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:54.520 named George calavisiis UFO contact from Australia. Can't find anything 1819 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:56.720 about him anymore. No, I've never seen any more of 1820 01:35:56.760 --> 01:35:58.680 his videos. Watched it a lot when I was a kid. 1821 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:00.560 He like disappeared and he used to have supposed to 1822 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.119 be contact with the and Dramaa Council. I was super 1823 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:05.560 into the ship as a teenager, and he said they 1824 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:07.760 were all gods and all right you have these talks 1825 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:10.560 and that He's like, we're all connected to whatever God is, 1826 01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:12.920 we are also a part of. So it means we're 1827 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.439 all gods here in this existence because we're connected to 1828 01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:20.319 some higher reality or higher self. So and then hearing 1829 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:23.760 about all this stuff with like the witchcraft and the 1830 01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:26.920 burning and the idea of that you know, we that 1831 01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:30.960 you can be influenced on different levels of reality, right, 1832 01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:33.920 you know what I mean? And that I in that 1833 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:37.600 that say, like in Anton Levetti, uh, Anton LaVey's version 1834 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.319 is essentially that you just okay, you hold who cares? Really, 1835 01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:45.960 there's no afterlife essentially in some views of how we 1836 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.279 put it, but essentially that you're just here to experience 1837 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:50.920 this and move on. Uh. And that's what I took 1838 01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:54.960 from it. That's not bad because I do believe there's 1839 01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:58.000 different sects of Satanism, you know what I mean, there's 1840 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.319 different sections. Some kill children. In my opinion that I 1841 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:03.960 believe that did existence may still And there's the word 1842 01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:09.640 one where it's you know what I mean, one where 1843 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:11.600 it's just like, oh, I just don't like religion, it's 1844 01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:12.760 against the religion. 1845 01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:18.039 Yeah, I will say like, unfortunately, that dude that you 1846 01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:27.000 were talking about, his name is Lucian Greaves. Yes, he 1847 01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:32.000 he Unfortunately, I think by just his his look alone, 1848 01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:36.239 probably he gave a lot of canon father to like 1849 01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:40.399 media and stuff, because I think it's it was really 1850 01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:42.760 easy to put like a photograph of him and be 1851 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:48.119 like Satanic Temple man killed kids and stuff, and like 1852 01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:49.760 you would look at that and he has like the 1853 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.159 fucking weird milky eye and stuff and you're like. 1854 01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:56.600 I think that same thing where it's just like and 1855 01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:01.079 to me, who whatever the Satanic Temple does and is 1856 01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:04.960 behind all of this stuff, because who knows who's orchestrating 1857 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:12.960 that sort of organization. They chose somebody a figurehead, much 1858 01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:15.039 like the queen all these people we see in society 1859 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:18.520 as someone who looked evil? Do you know what I mean? 1860 01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:21.039 Because you think that he was. Just to me, it's like, 1861 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.000 did you actually create this because you felt like an 1862 01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:25.880 outcast because you looked different and people thought you were scary, 1863 01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:28.760 so you developed your own section of Satanism or at 1864 01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:32.439 least carried on other people's traditions to do with that 1865 01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:35.600 belief in folklore, you could even say. And then it's 1866 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:38.399 just like, or did somebody put him in that position 1867 01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:39.960 because of what he looked like? Do you know what 1868 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:40.359 I mean? 1869 01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:45.560 Yeah? Yeah, like he I'm just reading here. He had 1870 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:49.000 said in an interview about how the idea for the 1871 01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:54.199 whole Satanic temple was conceived, and he said they envisioned 1872 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:56.840 it as a poison pill in the church state. At 1873 01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:00.960 the base, the idea was that Satanists their rights and 1874 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:06.239 privileges where religious agendas have been successful in imposing themselves 1875 01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:10.039 upon public affairs, because services are reminder that such privileges 1876 01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:12.520 are for everybody and can be used to serve an 1877 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:16.920 agenda beyond the current narrow understanding of what the religious 1878 01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:17.960 agenda actually is. 1879 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:21.720 That's very much what I kind of like, you know 1880 01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:23.520 what I mean, Like I get what he's I get 1881 01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:26.359 where he's coming from when it comes to that stuff. 1882 01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:29.960 And like I said, I don't subscribe to any belief, 1883 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.039 but some part of me is like, ah, I get that. 1884 01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.560 You know, they're not bad people. I love fucking wearing black, man. 1885 01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:37.560 I used to wear a fucking eyeline when I was 1886 01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:39.279 a fourteen year old kid and wear nothing but black 1887 01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:41.319 and cut off black gloves. Like I was super emo. 1888 01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:44.760 I like the darkness, man, I'm into morbid, weird shit. 1889 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:47.600 So I get it. So you can see why they 1890 01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:51.199 would pick this film because of how it does show 1891 01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:58.840 the religious influence on certain things to do with what 1892 01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:03.079 we don't understand, like craft and the belief in a devil. 1893 01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:08.640 Yeah, and I think you know, it harkens into He 1894 01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:14.680 went on record at one point and said that Satanism, 1895 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.159 they don't worship Satan, the temple of the Satanic Temple, 1896 01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:27.520 don't follow Satan, that it's based on personal sovereignty, independence, 1897 01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:28.840 freedom of will. 1898 01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.119 Stuff like that. They chose the same way fucking ants 1899 01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:32.760 on the way, did they just chose the nay that 1900 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:33.279 was edgy? 1901 01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:39.199 Yeah? Yeah, essentially, I mean, like I said, you know, 1902 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:42.880 for newspapers and magazines and shit, it was a really 1903 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:47.159 easy target to be like, you know, Satanic temple leader 1904 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:51.279 and it's like this dude with fucking milky ice, you know, 1905 01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:54.640 it's like, I mean, it really is, Like it's it's 1906 01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:57.520 such an easy target, Like it's like shooting fish in 1907 01:40:57.520 --> 01:40:57.920 a barrel. 1908 01:40:57.960 --> 01:41:00.960 Like it's I feel like I should have his fucking 1909 01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:05.880 just for this, for everybody fucking gibe us. Like as 1910 01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:09.239 we're talking about this though, we're event we're bringing this 1911 01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:11.640 to the clothes. What the fuck's his name? 1912 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:19.479 Fucking Lucian l U c I E. N. Grieves Is 1913 01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:22.760 he's a weird looking dude. 1914 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:28.399 But yeah, fucking even watching like you know that. Did 1915 01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:33.159 you watch the doc Hail Safety with the question mark? Yeah, 1916 01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:37.479 I liked it because it's just pointing at a different point 1917 01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:40.039 of view. And the thing is, nowadays everyone wants to 1918 01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:42.039 be accepted, right, we have this whole community when it 1919 01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:43.840 comes to l g B, t Q plus whatever ever, 1920 01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:46.960 like let's include everybody right where. It's just like you 1921 01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:52.560 have to eventually, like I see somewhat of the them 1922 01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:56.600 destroying religion and the fundamental morals of religion, which are 1923 01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:59.079 good in some ways, but I also see it where 1924 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:00.680 it's just like, if you want to be inclusive, you 1925 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:07.199 gotta let this motherfucker come into play, because you know what, like, yeah, 1926 01:42:07.199 --> 01:42:08.720 he's a freaky looking do I know why I didn't 1927 01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:13.119 save it in HD? But and I really makes it worse. 1928 01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:15.960 And I don't know if I'm mis bantering on, but 1929 01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:18.359 essentially I want to just kind of, like we can 1930 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:21.479 edit slowly talk about, like, you know, this idea of 1931 01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:23.600 satan that we see in our culture, right, I would 1932 01:42:23.720 --> 01:42:26.319 like to We've had talks where I want to start 1933 01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:30.199 at like the hell Fire Club and then go forward 1934 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.760 then talk about Anton Leavey and me and Anton I 1935 01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:34.680 was talking about what would be called her Hell Series, 1936 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:37.199 which if you're interested, we could all three of us 1937 01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:39.279 do it and it would be long, but essentially it's 1938 01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:42.279 gonna be like four episodes talking about like Hell essentially 1939 01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:45.920 in the paintings and everything that's associated in our culture 1940 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:48.039 way back in the day to then maybe the hell 1941 01:42:48.119 --> 01:42:51.960 Fire Club next, and then Anton LaVey Satanism, and then 1942 01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:53.520 now what Satanism is today. 1943 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:58.239 I would love to do that. I think it's a 1944 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:01.399 fascinating topic. I know a lot of people will say, 1945 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:04.239 you know, oh, it's been covered a lot. I actually 1946 01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:07.960 I don't know if it has, though I still, yeah, 1947 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:12.079 I still feel like that, Yes it has been covered. Yes, 1948 01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:15.520 people put it as the title litter podcast episodes or 1949 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:18.319 YouTube channels and stuff like that, But I still don't 1950 01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:23.199 think there's been like a proper deep dive into what 1951 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:26.560 it is actually behind some of it and what some 1952 01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:27.720 of it means and. 1953 01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.479 To me, because you know, I feel like the way 1954 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.079 we do things is a lot different than other podcasts, 1955 01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.479 and you know, with the use of even me being 1956 01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.920 experienced in psychedelics and you and Anton as even Anton's 1957 01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.119 died more of the stuff than I have, and his 1958 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:44.239 youth like LSD and stuff like that which I eventually 1959 01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:46.760 want to try once and s. Yeah, that makes me 1960 01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:50.319 feel because psychodelics are interesting to me as learning from them, 1961 01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:52.720 but like it allows you in some way, it changes 1962 01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:55.520 the top user where I see outside of things differently. Well, 1963 01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:58.880 I feel like, genuinely I'm giving a different perspective in 1964 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:01.359 a lot of the shows we do then some people 1965 01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:04.199 would have because I'm literally I believe in some crazy shit, 1966 01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:06.159 but I try to go on subjectively where I'm like, 1967 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:09.039 who fucking knows. But this is what I think, you 1968 01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:09.640 know what I mean. 1969 01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.720 Yeah, And that's what I like about you know, about 1970 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:20.000 doing these episodes, but you you don't just get the 1971 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:24.319 the generic cookie cutter yeah, because you know, in a 1972 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:25.720 lot of ways, it's easy to do that. You know, 1973 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:27.600 it's easy to say I'm interested in these things and 1974 01:44:27.600 --> 01:44:30.680 I'm curious and then just kind of you know, I 1975 01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:33.279 have the same spiel as everybody else and just say 1976 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:38.159 the same shit. But when you actually do like the 1977 01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:39.960 one thing I respect about that as well as being 1978 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:46.439 able to to say or admit things without without any 1979 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:48.800 fear of like repercussion or whatever, in the sense of 1980 01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:50.760 being like, yeah, I like to wear black, you know, 1981 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:53.479 I like to listen to this, or I like to 1982 01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:55.239 look at that, or I don't have an issue with this. 1983 01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:59.119 I feel like we've I had an interview with I 1984 01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:02.600 don't know if you've ever seen the slasher movie Cherry Falls. 1985 01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:03.960 I actually like that film. 1986 01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:08.479 It's not like a witch a witchka Brittany Murphy. Brittany 1987 01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:09.199 Murphy is an. 1988 01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:14.800 Oh, I'm thinking of Black Falls Cherry and it's good. 1989 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.399 Yeah, it is, Yeah, And it was directed by an 1990 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.720 Australian director called Jeffrey Wright, and I had a chance 1991 01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:29.520 to interview him earlier today and he he kind of 1992 01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:31.680 he kind of alluded back to that as well. He 1993 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:35.359 was like, you know this movie when basically what happened 1994 01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:39.279 was they released the movie right and he had like 1995 01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:43.800 a super unrated version of the movie and the end 1996 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:48.800 scene basically just really quickly before we end this. So, 1997 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:51.640 like the the very loose plot of the movie was 1998 01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:55.159 they tried to turn the whole slasher idea kind of 1999 01:45:55.159 --> 01:45:55.760 on its head a bit. 2000 01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.079 Yeah, I'm looking at a picture that Brittany Murphy, Michael 2001 01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:04.039 Brian Gabriel man, Oh I know that one, dude, Yeah, 2002 01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:04.840 I haven't seen this. 2003 01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:12.359 So basically how it works is the killer is killing virgins. 2004 01:46:13.720 --> 01:46:15.560 So you know the way at the time, like it 2005 01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:18.359 would have been in like a slasher movie, it was like, oh, 2006 01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:22.159 if you have sexual diet, yeah, in this one, they 2007 01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:23.239 flip it the other way. 2008 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:25.479 Essentially. 2009 01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.479 Yes, So basically the end of the movie is this 2010 01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:32.960 huge blood bat of like there's like seventy to eighty 2011 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:41.239 teenagers having a massive, like weird blood orge eating and yeah, 2012 01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:43.640 so when he went they screened it and like the 2013 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:47.000 audience went wild. But the studio were like, Nah, too dangerous, 2014 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:49.840 can't be releasing that kind of stuff, So they basically 2015 01:46:49.880 --> 01:46:52.439 made them do another four cuts of the movie. And 2016 01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:54.960 he said that the movie that got released, the only 2017 01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:57.159 version of the movie that ever got released, and the 2018 01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.319 one that you know I will see, you will see 2019 01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:03.720 if you watch it is basically the airplane version, and 2020 01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:07.399 it's like the softest cut possible. And he was just 2021 01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:09.319 talking about you know, I said, do you think we'll 2022 01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.239 ever see the unrated and he was like, the footage 2023 01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:14.359 is somewhere, the material is out there, but you know, 2024 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:17.000 it's been twenty years and not in the surface. And 2025 01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:20.479 he was just talking about how nowadays he was like, 2026 01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:24.479 it would be next to impossible to even to even 2027 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:26.199 write that down on a piece of paper and put 2028 01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:28.640 that in front of an executive. You know, we're gonna 2029 01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:33.680 have a an eighty person blood orgy. But it's just 2030 01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:34.920 a movie and it's just for fun. 2031 01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.840 Yeah, And that's and I'm seeing I've never even seen it, 2032 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:40.880 which I'd be interested in the fact that, like he's 2033 01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:43.760 a director essentially, so right is that like he was 2034 01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:47.000 right the director so and somebody else wrote the script right, 2035 01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:49.039 So then the producers get a hold of it, and 2036 01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:51.800 it's where the footage they own because they technically own 2037 01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:54.479 it now because they're producing it, so they would have 2038 01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:56.600 it somewhere. And the thing is, but they let movies 2039 01:47:56.640 --> 01:48:00.319 slide like Caligula and some of these like films from 2040 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.039 the past that just like have like their you know, 2041 01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:09.199 fucking the most inappropriate films, and and when it comes 2042 01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:12.159 to cinema, it's just like sometimes you have to let 2043 01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:18.640 those movies exist because it cinema picks at certain things 2044 01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:21.439 in society and who we are in human nature, and 2045 01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:25.359 the serial killers and and things like that are very real, 2046 01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:27.680 you know what I mean. 2047 01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.840 Yeah, it's uh, I don't know what's strange. We live 2048 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:32.840 in a really strange time. And I feel like they 2049 01:48:33.239 --> 01:48:35.880 not to get too off topic. I agree, the whole 2050 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:38.039 the whole pandemic thing and all has just kind of 2051 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:38.880 intensified all. 2052 01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:41.399 Let wait, have you knowed that there's no good comedies anymore? 2053 01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:44.520 Part of it is this fucking woke culture. Shit comedies 2054 01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:51.359 suck now and have sucked for almost like ten years because. 2055 01:48:51.039 --> 01:48:52.399 It's illegal to make a joke. 2056 01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:54.960 Yeah, you can't. If you make a joke or say 2057 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.840 your beliefs, you get jailed for it in some places, 2058 01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:00.479 like we talked about you know, the Irish guy that 2059 01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:04.920 got fucking jailed for not wanting to say somebody's pronouns. 2060 01:49:05.239 --> 01:49:08.640 Like this idea of like people are people, Human beings 2061 01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:10.840 are human beings, People go through all sorts of shit 2062 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:15.159 and experiences. Let them be people. But you can't censor 2063 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:20.359 people's opinions and thoughts. Or that's not a free society anymore, 2064 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.359 especially when it comes to cinema. If there's an audience, 2065 01:49:23.439 --> 01:49:26.159 let them have it, not everybody needs to watch it. 2066 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:32.520 Comedies specifically have bombed essentially because everyone's afraid, you know, 2067 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:34.760 so Seth Rogan really doesn't make too many films anymore. 2068 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:39.319 Like everyone's afraid to say something that's gonna offend somebody else, 2069 01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:41.520 which is gonna get them on the radar, which gets 2070 01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:44.880 them canceled. You know what I mean. We live in 2071 01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:46.359 a sad time when it comes to cinema. 2072 01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:48.039 Yeah, and it's so weird. 2073 01:49:48.079 --> 01:49:49.680 Like I. 2074 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:55.079 Bought a hat recently. It's just like a regular like 2075 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:59.680 dad has, and it has an embroidery of a pentagram 2076 01:49:59.680 --> 01:50:01.640 and it's just says go to hell. Yeah, I just 2077 01:50:01.680 --> 01:50:05.399 bought it. I like the design yeah, like, but I 2078 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.760 bought it. I like the design. There's no real like 2079 01:50:07.880 --> 01:50:10.399 I don't go out and stab babies and like rape women. 2080 01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:14.439 But like the amount of people that like when I 2081 01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:17.840 came back here, like I live in a quite conservative 2082 01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:20.119 small town. The people they see like looking at that 2083 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:23.079 and being like, like, it's a fucking hasf. 2084 01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:24.520 And that's why I'm saying people need to calm down. 2085 01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:28.680 We're like, uh during even the pandemic, right, I wasn't. 2086 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:30.600 I wasn't wearing a mask. I was one of those people. 2087 01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:32.319 I don't care what people think about that. But I 2088 01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:33.600 was just someone that I was like, Hey, I've had 2089 01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:35.760 enough of this at work for a bit. This is bullshit. 2090 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:38.000 Started to research it what is really going on? Follow 2091 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:40.640 the money, not the science, essentially, and people will look 2092 01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:43.279 at me. I got called a scumbag for walking the 2093 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:46.239 wrong direction of the owl like the arrows in the 2094 01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:50.920 fucking grocery store. And I now I and I don't care. 2095 01:50:51.159 --> 01:50:53.159 I've like, I don't give a shit when people think 2096 01:50:53.199 --> 01:50:55.960 about me. If you enjoy who I am, I appreciate you, 2097 01:50:56.039 --> 01:50:57.960 and I'm here for love and to change the world 2098 01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:00.680 in some form and talk about strange But I wear 2099 01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:03.800 a fuck Trudeau shirt place as I go. I have 2100 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:07.159 a fuck the New World Order shirt where people give 2101 01:51:07.199 --> 01:51:09.800 me weird looks, but essentially nobody says shit to me, 2102 01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:13.239 because what are they gonna say. I'm like, you support 2103 01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:16.319 fucking government's taken over your lives. Like nobody says that 2104 01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:22.279 because at the deeper level, every normal thinking person to me, 2105 01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:26.520 that understands psychology and your brain and just any someone 2106 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:30.680 that is kind of intellectual, understands there is something wrong 2107 01:51:31.039 --> 01:51:35.279 with censoring somebody that just thinks outside of the box 2108 01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:38.159 of what the government and society has structured for you. 2109 01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.920 Yeah, and it's something that, uh, and I feel like 2110 01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:46.279 maybe at some point we should do a maybe just 2111 01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.239 an off the cover RAND episode about this maybe sometime. 2112 01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:50.800 But you have to pay for that people. 2113 01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:55.399 Yeah, the Patriot, It's something that like infuriates me to 2114 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:58.279 think about it. And I supposed to tie it back 2115 01:51:58.319 --> 01:52:02.439 into this Weilery search in this movie. I did see it. 2116 01:52:02.439 --> 01:52:05.920 It's it's a very it's a very divisive movie. Like 2117 01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:08.920 there's a for as many people say, it's amazing, it's 2118 01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:10.920 a great piece of art. It's a it's a fantastic 2119 01:52:10.920 --> 01:52:14.399 piece of work. There's also on the other side, yeahs 2120 01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:18.000 who are like, you know kind of and I don't 2121 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:19.880 mean just shipping on it from a critic point of view, 2122 01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:22.760 like you know, a filmmaker point of view, but like 2123 01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:25.199 a lot of people were bringing up the whole Satanic 2124 01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:28.239 thing and the which thing and oh you know, they're 2125 01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:31.920 like ejectifying women and they're doing this, and there's they're 2126 01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:38.199 showing like stuff that doesn't need to be shown, and like. 2127 01:52:36.760 --> 01:52:41.199 It's playing a time period of what it was, like 2128 01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.760 like context about where we were as a side we were, like, 2129 01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:47.560 especially when they're canceled certain people, let's cancel this Christmas 2130 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.119 song because it's about subduing a woman. Stuff like that, 2131 01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:54.119 where it's like, get the context of the time error 2132 01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:57.600 and where we were as a society. Okay, we're now 2133 01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:01.439 within a short span of time time we've gone too 2134 01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:05.279 woke where it's just like everything needs to be dissected. 2135 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:08.359 And the thing is everyone can say what they want 2136 01:53:08.359 --> 01:53:10.720 when it comes to this subject, but not this one. 2137 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:13.439 And that's where we are a society. And with films 2138 01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:17.439 like this that literally toyot those emotions and ideas of 2139 01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:20.520 who we were as human beings at a certain time 2140 01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:22.960 period and people are saying to cancel it or get 2141 01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:25.880 rid of it, or don't show it. You will lose 2142 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.399 the value of life, in my opinion, in the sense 2143 01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:32.600 of wonder. We will live in this autonomous existence where 2144 01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:34.600 it's like nineteen eighty four, where it's like you're always 2145 01:53:34.600 --> 01:53:37.359 being watched. You're you're supposed to be like China. People 2146 01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:39.239 can say what they want, but China is I wouldn't 2147 01:53:39.239 --> 01:53:41.640 want to live there. Oh they eradicated poverty, sure, shut 2148 01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:44.199 the fuck up. They lock people in their fucking houses 2149 01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:47.960 for thinking that they're kind of sick. So that society 2150 01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:49.800 you want to live in, That society where you get 2151 01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:51.640 you can't go on the internet and search a certain 2152 01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:54.560 thing because even if it's something might mundane is like 2153 01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:58.479 how to change your mind or fix your depression or 2154 01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.359 something like that, everything is censored, you know. And I'm 2155 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.359 sorry of that ramp, but like that's if we keep 2156 01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:05.760 canceling things. Fucked, that's what's gonna happen. 2157 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:11.520 Yep, it's fucked, and it'll remove, but it will remove everything, 2158 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:15.319 Like I won't get to be subjective in any form. 2159 01:54:15.399 --> 01:54:19.039 Might it not be feeling music, whatever it might be. Yeah, 2160 01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:22.720 you know, if we go down that route, then we 2161 01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:24.439 won't even get to have these. 2162 01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:28.000 Conversations and we'll be listening to fucking house being constantly 2163 01:54:28.039 --> 01:54:31.159 in a fucking club that just fucking like you ever 2164 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:36.079 played the game We Happy Few, It's a crazy game 2165 01:54:36.119 --> 01:54:39.159 where they give you pills, these joy pills. Love that game. 2166 01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:42.359 It's it's created by Canadians. It's and if you don't 2167 01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:43.960 know what there is, look it up. But especially you 2168 01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:45.920 have to take your pill. When you stop taking your pill, 2169 01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.159 you start to see gloomy and you have like withdrawals 2170 01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:52.039 of like this. They make you just believe in this 2171 01:54:52.119 --> 01:54:54.920 fake world and everyone be happy and take your joy 2172 01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:57.159 and take your pill. That's where society to me, is 2173 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:00.159 going if if people aren't careful and without people you 2174 01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:02.479 could say, like Joe Rogan, even though I feel like 2175 01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:05.720 there's times where I made a comment sign work, sometimes 2176 01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:07.920 he's not the Joe that we need him to be 2177 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:11.199 with certain things. It's like, bro, you should be calling 2178 01:55:11.199 --> 01:55:13.279 the fuck out of these people that you have on 2179 01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:16.680 your show and it's content. Yeah, but you can't dance 2180 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:19.760 on that line. Everyone's rooting for these specific people in 2181 01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:22.760 society to call out these things. You know what I mean? 2182 01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:27.000 Yeah, I mean, look what happened to again. I'm gonna 2183 01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.439 I'm gonna stop waffling there for people who were like, oh, 2184 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.560 you've finished talking about the movie. Yeah, but like, look 2185 01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:35.840 what's happened to Andrew's head at the minute. I know 2186 01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:39.720 they essentially just wiped him off the face of the art. 2187 01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:42.640 He done a podcast recently. I haven't actually watched yet. 2188 01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:44.880 I can't remember the guy's name, and you wouldn't know him. 2189 01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:47.720 He's you see him from time to time popping up 2190 01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:50.319 on TikTok and stuff. He has quite quite a popular podcast. 2191 01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:54.199 He interviews all these like famous entrepreneurs and like, I 2192 01:55:54.199 --> 01:56:00.279 guess forward tinkers and he had Andrew Taede on. He 2193 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:02.159 basically went he was like, yeah, this is this is 2194 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:04.840 the exact point I was making the entire time of 2195 01:56:04.880 --> 01:56:09.960 my content. Look look what happened overnight. They wiped me 2196 01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:13.680 off the face of social media. Every single app, every 2197 01:56:13.720 --> 01:56:16.479 single platform got rid of me. And he was like, yeah, 2198 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:19.279 I had to make a new account on Uber. In 2199 01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:24.760 the UK, all the banks, TSB, Barclays, all them basically 2200 01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:26.199 told me, no, you're going to have to move your 2201 01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:29.359 money somewhere else. We don't want to be associated. We 2202 01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:31.720 don't want anything to do with it. He's like, it's 2203 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:35.640 fucking wild. He was like, if I was a regular person, 2204 01:56:36.039 --> 01:56:38.960 like a regular dude, my life is over. I might 2205 01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:40.079 as well commit suicide. 2206 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:43.079 Yeah. No, it is true in that way of that 2207 01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:46.039 they're doing that, and that's what like and we're essentially 2208 01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:48.760 for the people that you may disagree. We're just talking 2209 01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.279 about a movie that pushed the boundaries of cinema and 2210 01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:56.920 essentially that the way that society is going. You may 2211 01:56:57.039 --> 01:56:59.439 I think Andrew Tate is playing a character, for sure, 2212 01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:01.600 but he's rich. He does what he wants, and he 2213 01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:04.199 supposed to be what I've looked into, accumulate that wealth 2214 01:57:04.960 --> 01:57:07.560 essentially on his own and kind of just built up 2215 01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:10.800 a brand and a business and then speaks about these 2216 01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:15.640 things that I would say seventy percent of the world thinks. 2217 01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:18.680 A majority of the world does agree with at least 2218 01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:20.319 half the shit he says, even if he is playing 2219 01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:24.479 a character. But with I love cinema, I love movies, 2220 01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:27.199 and for them, I've seen fucked up movies that most 2221 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:29.800 people shouldn't say, like a cligula. I've seen that like 2222 01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:32.840 twice in my life. And that's a fucking strange weird, 2223 01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:35.680 fucked up movie. There's these things in cinema and are 2224 01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:38.600 subconscious and that you have to just allow it to 2225 01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:41.720 happen to me. And you know, because me and you 2226 01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:45.359 are both horror fans. There is films out there that 2227 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:48.800 literally make you question your reality, how you feel about 2228 01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:53.439 a certain thing, death, the mortality of living in this reality, 2229 01:57:54.319 --> 01:57:56.680 you know, where you have to let those things in 2230 01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.159 our exist. You have to or we don't. There's no 2231 01:57:59.199 --> 01:58:01.680 point of living any more if you're doing an instructured, 2232 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:04.800 structured way where you have to follow all these guidelines 2233 01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:06.079 because that's what every app does. 2234 01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:11.399 Now, Yeah, one hundred percent, I guess then. So closing 2235 01:58:11.439 --> 01:58:14.319 thoughts on this movie, you would recommend it like I 2236 01:58:14.319 --> 01:58:16.319 I For anybody who hasn't seen it, I would one 2237 01:58:16.399 --> 01:58:18.880 hundred percent recommend to see this movie at least once. 2238 01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:21.319 But one thing I will say is make sure you 2239 01:58:21.399 --> 01:58:25.680 do what I've done on Tom's recommendation. You can either 2240 01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:28.600 take a shit to the mushrooms, or if you're not 2241 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:33.359 going to do that, make sure to put your phone 2242 01:58:33.439 --> 01:58:35.800 in a different room, put your iPad away, don't do 2243 01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:39.279 anything like that. Like genuinely listen to this sit down 2244 01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:42.600 and just give it ninety minutes and actually take the 2245 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:43.319 movie in. 2246 01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:48.840 Yes, because it's cinematic and it's an amazing film. And 2247 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:52.319 like I said, there's so many thoughts that may brought 2248 01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:55.000 me to, you know, wanting to do this episode with 2249 01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:57.399 you and throwing it in your ear that we should 2250 01:58:57.399 --> 01:59:01.479 cover this is it genuinely as I was coming inside 2251 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:05.199 packing up everything. After I we watched it and then 2252 01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:06.720 we put on a movie, but it more or less 2253 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:08.720 me and my fiance just talked. All I did was 2254 01:59:08.760 --> 01:59:11.800 take an eight like a fucking pa to Gramma. Mushrooms 2255 01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:14.319 had no visuals, but then I had a beer or two, 2256 01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:17.880 but that it made me and I felt sober but 2257 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:21.199 kind of mushroom to mind if people understand what psychedelics do. 2258 01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:23.840 Is I analyzed it differently, and we were talking about 2259 01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:26.560 ghosts and all this stuff. It left me in this weird, 2260 01:59:26.640 --> 01:59:30.319 haunting feeling. Afterwards, we're just even when we're talking clamp things. 2261 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.960 And later I was like, I'm still shook visibly to 2262 01:59:34.079 --> 01:59:36.359 even to my girlfriend, I'm like, I can't stop analyzing 2263 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:39.520 the film, and specifically it's because of the way it 2264 01:59:39.800 --> 01:59:42.720 ended too, with this idea that she just walks into 2265 01:59:42.720 --> 01:59:45.760 the woods and there's a black sabbath going on, and 2266 01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:48.920 then everyone and that feeling of her just laughing as 2267 01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:53.960 she just levitates over this bonfire. And you know, back 2268 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:57.079 in the day, bonfire comes from bonefire, which is when 2269 01:59:57.079 --> 02:00:00.600 they used to sacrifice people. So this idea of it's 2270 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:03.039 it freaked me out and I literally, like fucking like 2271 02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:05.319 for the whole night thought about like I shouldn't have 2272 02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:07.000 messed around with the weeds board when I was a kid. 2273 02:00:07.079 --> 02:00:08.560 It left me with this feeling of like I don't 2274 02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:10.680 need to mess with these dark arts anymore. 2275 02:00:13.239 --> 02:00:17.439 It's really effective and I have to commend everybody involved 2276 02:00:17.479 --> 02:00:21.159 with the movie, you know, from the actors to the director, 2277 02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:25.279 to the writers to sound Everything was like there's very 2278 02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.319 little like auld fault about the movie. I feel like 2279 02:00:27.359 --> 02:00:30.640 everything slotted in exactly where it should have. And I 2280 02:00:30.680 --> 02:00:34.600 definitely recommend it to everybody for a one even you 2281 02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.600 know what, even even if you're not yeah, because I 2282 02:00:37.640 --> 02:00:40.239 feel like, like what you said, it's not it's not 2283 02:00:40.359 --> 02:00:42.399 something that you know, you can stick on every. 2284 02:00:42.199 --> 02:00:44.880 Week like Creditary, I can't. I can watch five thirteenth 2285 02:00:44.960 --> 02:00:46.880 every Halloween. I can watch it every other week if 2286 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:49.520 I really felt like it because it's it's to me 2287 02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:51.840 those and I think you would agree that there's things 2288 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:54.760 like like Anymore and I'm stoot comfort films. They don't 2289 02:00:54.800 --> 02:00:56.439 because I grew up watching them and it was something 2290 02:00:56.479 --> 02:00:58.399 that was kind of taboo when I was younger. It's 2291 02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:02.239 they comfort me that fun slasher film. There's films like this, 2292 02:01:02.520 --> 02:01:06.520 The Witch and Hereditary that it's two times maybe three 2293 02:01:06.640 --> 02:01:08.199 or four in your lifetime and that's about it. 2294 02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:11.880 I'm good. Yeah, And it's something that I would recommend 2295 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.079 even if you're not a fan of of straight up 2296 02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:16.640 horror movies. I would. I would try and give it 2297 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:23.079 the time because it's it's it's a great movie. 2298 02:01:23.319 --> 02:01:26.960 Yeah. 2299 02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:29.960 Cups of Michael Myers, Yeah, sorry for everybody is on 2300 02:01:30.000 --> 02:01:34.159 the audio there. We're just like showing off cops. So 2301 02:01:34.279 --> 02:01:37.079 I guess in closing, then where can people check you out, 2302 02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:39.680 find you, support you? What have you got coming up? 2303 02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:42.479 So we have lots of ideas and stuff to do 2304 02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:44.520 on both of our shows. I believe a lot of 2305 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:47.239 stuff is coming, you know, and this is gonna be 2306 02:01:47.279 --> 02:01:49.279 released before Halloween anyway, So like we have a lot 2307 02:01:49.319 --> 02:01:52.800 of stuff coming up. Aaron, like everyone tune in, you 2308 02:01:52.800 --> 02:01:56.520 can find us a Strange Brew TTV, on Twitch, Strange Podcast, 2309 02:01:56.560 --> 02:01:59.840 on everything else like Facebook and YouTube. We're going live 2310 02:02:00.560 --> 02:02:04.920 on October twenty eighth at six thirty Eastern time. You know, 2311 02:02:05.119 --> 02:02:07.439 for people across the pond, it's gonna be later. But 2312 02:02:07.439 --> 02:02:09.680 if you're staying up, you're drinking, you're coming down from 2313 02:02:09.760 --> 02:02:12.760 whatever the fuck you're doing. Throughout that Halloween weekend and 2314 02:02:12.760 --> 02:02:15.560 that Friday, tune into the live. It's gonna be a 2315 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:17.760 lot of fun. We're gonna show videos I think each 2316 02:02:17.800 --> 02:02:20.880 have a scary story, and then we also have our 2317 02:02:21.199 --> 02:02:24.680 Halloween special once you're doing all about the Ouiji board. 2318 02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:27.880 But we have episodes coming with Aaron where we're gonna 2319 02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:32.159 do a part two of a Sexual Specter episode. So 2320 02:02:32.279 --> 02:02:34.159 there's a lot of stuff coming for Halloween. Because I 2321 02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:38.840 fucking love this time. It gets my dick hard. As 2322 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:41.079 I said on the fucking Haunted episode, the stuff that like, 2323 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:43.640 it just gets me going, Like I just love talking 2324 02:02:43.640 --> 02:02:46.239 about this stuff. I love Halloween in fall. I hate Winter, 2325 02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:48.439 but I love the lead up to winter. 2326 02:02:50.319 --> 02:02:55.359 Yeah. Likewise, and if I could, I would probably live 2327 02:02:55.399 --> 02:02:58.279 in that season forever too, just like that like an 2328 02:02:58.279 --> 02:02:59.960 eternal like lead up the Halloway. 2329 02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:02.079 But like one. 2330 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:06.840 Yeah for me, you know what, I wouldn't actually even 2331 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:08.600 mind if the weather was just really nice, but it 2332 02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:12.840 was just around that build up the Halloween. Yeah, for me, 2333 02:03:13.039 --> 02:03:17.720 it's the usual class hardcast on any podcast platforms, classharar 2334 02:03:17.800 --> 02:03:22.000 caast dot com, first class horror on all social media. 2335 02:03:22.600 --> 02:03:25.880 I do actually have a new link. It'll be in 2336 02:03:25.880 --> 02:03:29.039 the buy on any of my socials. For I think 2337 02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:33.640 I'll speak so if anybody, if anybody, anybody wants to 2338 02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:37.680 send in questions, comments, remarks, whatever you want to do, 2339 02:03:38.399 --> 02:03:41.039 I'm gonna dedicate maybe an episode a month or something. 2340 02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:47.079 I'm just gonna do like audience clips and stuff like 2341 02:03:47.119 --> 02:03:51.000 that and answer them or whatever. Yeah. Other than that, 2342 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:53.640 there's a lot of stuff common. Like Tom said, I 2343 02:03:53.720 --> 02:03:57.359 also have a lot of stuff on my side involving Tom. 2344 02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:02.159 We're gonna shoot for a Halloween resurrect. I'm excited for that, actually, commentary, 2345 02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:05.640 I can't wait for that. We have ninety Carnival of 2346 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:08.880 Souls and we have a rob Zombie. 2347 02:04:09.039 --> 02:04:12.560 There's like so much multiple I saw that you were 2348 02:04:12.600 --> 02:04:14.800 doing that fan thing of getting people to like I 2349 02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:16.079 was like, oh shit, and then like, I don't know 2350 02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:17.720 if it's different where you have to do with a computers, 2351 02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:19.479 like allow your settings because I was gonna send you 2352 02:04:19.520 --> 02:04:23.359 a fucking message. Somebody said that we should do that. Well, 2353 02:04:23.399 --> 02:04:24.560 like a play with the idea of being able to 2354 02:04:24.600 --> 02:04:27.920 call a number and leave a voicemail. I would just 2355 02:04:27.960 --> 02:04:29.560 like to see what happens, because I'm sure I would 2356 02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:31.640 have a couple of people that'd be like you able 2357 02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:34.039 this piece of trash, Like I just have people screaming 2358 02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:36.079 at me from a phone, angry at my point of views. 2359 02:04:36.359 --> 02:04:38.720 But I'm sure there are some fans that would love 2360 02:04:38.760 --> 02:04:41.560 to just leave me weird shit to play on the show. 2361 02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:44.039 And we've toyed with that too. It's just maybe even 2362 02:04:44.079 --> 02:04:45.640 playing at the end of the episodes. If we ever 2363 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:47.560 established something like that, we can call in and we'll 2364 02:04:47.560 --> 02:04:50.199 play your voicemails and maybe respond to them at the 2365 02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:51.479 end of certain episodes. 2366 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:54.720 Because I think it's smart. I think that'd be really interesting. 2367 02:04:57.640 --> 02:05:00.560 I could regret it, I don't know, but I guess 2368 02:05:00.560 --> 02:05:05.039 we'll see. Yeah, I appreciate everyone. If you've got to 2369 02:05:05.239 --> 02:05:08.520 the very end of this, we appreciate it. We've been 2370 02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:10.920 kind of a little bit all over the place. I 2371 02:05:10.920 --> 02:05:11.880 suppose the time. 2372 02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:13.239 I started would get this one. 2373 02:05:14.319 --> 02:05:16.239 Yeah, that's where we have a tendency to do that. 2374 02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:18.760 And like I said, keep an eye out over the 2375 02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:20.840 next couple of weeks, there's a lot of stuff coming 2376 02:05:21.279 --> 02:05:23.920 and I'm assuming that, you know, even though it's coming 2377 02:05:23.920 --> 02:05:26.319 in to build up a Halloween, We're probably gonna have 2378 02:05:26.359 --> 02:05:28.399 even more stuff towards the tail end of the year 2379 02:05:28.439 --> 02:05:28.840 as well. 2380 02:05:29.279 --> 02:05:32.680 I'm sure too with the Christmas is so many movies 2381 02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:35.920 we could talk about around Christmas too. I know Anton 2382 02:05:36.039 --> 02:05:42.159 wants to do Christmas Horror Story with fucking William Shatner, 2383 02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:44.640 so I know he wants to talk about that, and 2384 02:05:44.680 --> 02:05:46.239 I was like, that could be all three of us 2385 02:05:46.239 --> 02:05:47.720 for his show, because Anton's just trying to get a 2386 02:05:47.720 --> 02:05:49.279 show off the ground. That's one of my co hosts. 2387 02:05:49.319 --> 02:05:51.399 He doesn't think on House of Trash and he's just 2388 02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:52.760 starting to get a show up. But talk about it 2389 02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:56.880 senilely trashy and obscure movies and like specifically horror movies 2390 02:05:56.920 --> 02:06:00.359 and stuff. So just obscure stuff, like the trashiest fucking 2391 02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:04.359 weird like we did. Uh that was that. I was like, 2392 02:06:04.359 --> 02:06:06.039 why can I think it's the movie where people drank 2393 02:06:06.079 --> 02:06:12.520 alcohol and they fucking street trash. We did that because 2394 02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:13.880 Antony told me to watch that movie. I was like, 2395 02:06:14.039 --> 02:06:16.319 never seen it, and I was like, okay, like it's 2396 02:06:16.399 --> 02:06:19.199 fucking weird. So we have their stuff like going on 2397 02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:21.880 with that that will also involve Aaron, So we're super 2398 02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:24.199 I'm fucking excited for a lot of the stuff we're 2399 02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:27.079 gonna do going forward. 2400 02:06:27.119 --> 02:06:30.399 I feel like I had a I had like a 2401 02:06:30.479 --> 02:06:33.119 huge hiatus there for a while and I just I 2402 02:06:33.159 --> 02:06:35.680 don't know, not that I lost the passion or anything 2403 02:06:35.760 --> 02:06:37.039 like that, but I was like, I just I don't 2404 02:06:37.039 --> 02:06:38.840 I don't know which direction to go in. There's like 2405 02:06:39.439 --> 02:06:43.239 so many different things and places and you know, things 2406 02:06:43.279 --> 02:06:45.880 I want to try and do. When I was like no, 2407 02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:50.760 now I feel like reinvigorated, refreshed and just ready to 2408 02:06:50.760 --> 02:06:53.640 to kind of get cracking again as always. It's been 2409 02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:58.279 it's been a pleasure being able to do this with you, 2410 02:06:58.840 --> 02:07:01.159 and I feel like you're one of driving forces maybe 2411 02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:02.760 and get me back on the horse, and. 2412 02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:04.840 I like that because you also drive me. And I 2413 02:07:04.880 --> 02:07:07.960 think that we've realized that with our connection is that 2414 02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:12.000 it's nice that I find that we think very similar 2415 02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:14.600 in a lot of ways where I have because of 2416 02:07:14.600 --> 02:07:16.800 the what we do at strange brew We're able to 2417 02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:21.319 dive into weird folklore, everything, strange real stories. But and 2418 02:07:21.399 --> 02:07:23.760 on your show, we're able to dive into something I've 2419 02:07:23.800 --> 02:07:26.880 always loved, which I've toyed with, is doing talking about 2420 02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:29.159 more horror movie aspects of things. So we kind of 2421 02:07:29.159 --> 02:07:31.279 get best of both worlds with most of our shows. 2422 02:07:31.680 --> 02:07:34.239 Because I love horror, there's and I will never run 2423 02:07:34.279 --> 02:07:36.600 out of probably ideas on watch I'm like, Yo, you 2424 02:07:36.600 --> 02:07:37.479 want to fucking do this? 2425 02:07:38.039 --> 02:07:42.359 Yeah, which is good, which helps me because I'm quite 2426 02:07:44.039 --> 02:07:46.279 I can be like really and decisive with things. I'll 2427 02:07:46.279 --> 02:07:48.760 be like should I shouldn't I maybe no, that's probably 2428 02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:50.840 a shit idea, Like when I when I tossed out 2429 02:07:50.840 --> 02:07:54.760 the idea of Halloween Resurrection, I was like, Oh, I 2430 02:07:54.840 --> 02:07:56.720 know he's gonna be like, what the fuck do you 2431 02:07:56.760 --> 02:07:57.199 want to do that? 2432 02:07:57.560 --> 02:07:58.760 I think it's worth it. 2433 02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:03.319 Yeah, Well, like I even if you didn't, I was like, 2434 02:08:03.439 --> 02:08:04.960 because I was like, okay, if he if he doesn't 2435 02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:06.920 want to do a Halloween restrection, I was like, could 2436 02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:09.840 I pull off an entire commentary solo? And I was like, 2437 02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:11.720 oh God, that's gonna be to Oh. 2438 02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:14.119 I've tried to debate on doing episodes through the Patreon 2439 02:08:14.159 --> 02:08:16.319 hight I just talk with Tom talks or something like that, 2440 02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:18.760 and I'm like, I don't know if someone wants to 2441 02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:20.199 listen to me talk for an hour and a half 2442 02:08:20.279 --> 02:08:22.680 about by stupid ass thoughts that I have every waking 2443 02:08:22.760 --> 02:08:24.479 day of my life. And that's why I think it's 2444 02:08:24.520 --> 02:08:25.920 we have a lot of stuff in the works. I 2445 02:08:26.039 --> 02:08:28.560 like that, like these ideas that we're toying with. It 2446 02:08:28.680 --> 02:08:30.880 was funny when we were talking again about Rob Zombie. 2447 02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:33.079 I was like, fuck, yeah, Like I'll let's get into 2448 02:08:33.079 --> 02:08:35.880 that stuff because there's also leading up to the stuff 2449 02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:37.119 that he's working on now too. 2450 02:08:39.279 --> 02:08:41.119 Yeah. A lot of a lot of exciting stuff. And 2451 02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:44.720 and I love him again for similar reasons to what 2452 02:08:44.760 --> 02:08:45.600 we talked about our year. 2453 02:08:45.640 --> 02:08:47.880 I do feel like we're just going to talk for 2454 02:08:47.880 --> 02:08:49.279 another hour for everybody. 2455 02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:53.640 Yeah, he's just one of those filmmakers that h has 2456 02:08:53.640 --> 02:08:55.720 always been himself no matter what he's done. Yeah, he's 2457 02:08:55.720 --> 02:08:57.960 always kind of stay true to himself, which I love. 2458 02:08:58.119 --> 02:08:59.600 He's like doing what he wants to do, you know. 2459 02:09:00.640 --> 02:09:02.880 Yeah, And I have to appreciate that because that's the 2460 02:09:02.960 --> 02:09:04.399 kind of the life I would like to take you. 2461 02:09:04.640 --> 02:09:07.079 Even my music I'm like, I still create my hip 2462 02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:09.439 hop songs. I still rap, but I still write music. 2463 02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:13.039 You know, a couple hundred people may see it on YouTube. Essentially, 2464 02:09:13.119 --> 02:09:15.319 I don't do it for anyone else but myself and 2465 02:09:15.399 --> 02:09:18.319 my own weird therapeutic shit. And to me, that's how 2466 02:09:18.439 --> 02:09:21.239 Rob Zombie feels and the way he does his stuff. 2467 02:09:21.279 --> 02:09:23.079 It's like, I just want to do this because it's 2468 02:09:23.119 --> 02:09:23.520 my thing. 2469 02:09:25.640 --> 02:09:29.239 Well, look, I'm gonna attempt to bring this too calls 2470 02:09:29.239 --> 02:09:30.880 because I can't shot my mouth either. 2471 02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:32.640 I was like, I could do this for our fucking hours. 2472 02:09:32.680 --> 02:09:34.920 She was like, like, what about which is canals we 2473 02:09:34.960 --> 02:09:35.479 get into? 2474 02:09:37.840 --> 02:09:40.439 It's like I said, it's been a pleasures always. It's 2475 02:09:40.479 --> 02:09:43.960 been fun. I hope everybody listen and enjoyed. If he 2476 02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:47.319 did make it to the end, you're now a hero. 2477 02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:50.520 He made it true our babbling for the last two 2478 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:54.000 hours and fifteen minutes. And yeah, just keep an eye 2479 02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:56.119 out on both of our socials. A lot of stuff 2480 02:09:56.159 --> 02:09:58.920 coming over the next couple of months, and yeah, we'll 2481 02:09:58.920 --> 02:09:59.479 see everybody. 2482 02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:04.560 So South fuckers, peace, stay strange. 2483 02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:09.720 Thanks for listening to another episode of Class Horrorcast. Stop 2484 02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:15.399 the CHC podcast at Classharrorcast Dot com at first Class Horror, 2485 02:10:15.399 --> 02:10:19.760 on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube, or on Twitter at Class 2486 02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:21.119 Underscore Horror. 2487 02:10:21.399 --> 02:10:24.640 The CCHC podcast is hosted and produced by Aaron Doyle 2488 02:10:24.880 --> 02:10:27.319 and is an fch production.