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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iye on the Ball
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Speaker 2: Javio Morales. Thank you, Henry for coming on in another
Speaker 2: big show on Monday. A lot to talk about football,
Speaker 2: high school football, and tour to Tucson. So if you're
Speaker 2: into eclectic stuff or different stuff, this is the day
Speaker 2: to be listening to us. Have your How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How about you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well as well. A little rush, Yeah, we
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Speaker 4: Brian McBrayer gave me that cap. I saw a purple cap.
Speaker 4: I grabbed it because you have a Breeders cup cap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, purple, welcome to the show. You this is your
Speaker 2: first time on the guest.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, other than one at the other place.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, well the new place. Yes, right, cool.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Welcome to Monday. We're gonna have a lot
Speaker 2: of talk about you a football obviously, back to action
Speaker 2: this week. Maybe talk a little about the basketball program.
Speaker 2: Uh in men's basketball, you were at the women's game
Speaker 2: what yesterday was?
Speaker 4: I watched it. They played at UC San Diego. It
Speaker 4: was a road game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you how so you watched it, you wrote
Speaker 2: about it, yes, okay, so we'll talk about that as well. First,
Speaker 2: let's just kind of maybe get back to did you
Speaker 2: listen to the press conference? You're you're typically you're a teacher,
Speaker 2: so you have the day off, right.
Speaker 3: I didn't, But I've some of Michael Lev's tweets on it.
Speaker 2: Oh so you didn't. So what was the theme of
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 4: The main thing, one of the things I got out
Speaker 4: of it was, and Jason Cheer tweeted too, is that
Speaker 4: he's asking for fans to come out and support them
Speaker 4: because this is a tough time and instead of fans
Speaker 4: like turning away He's asking for them to like be
Speaker 4: there for the players.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I got from it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this, how do you think
Speaker 2: that's going.
Speaker 3: To be received? We were talking about Arizona fans.
Speaker 4: So you look at some of these other stadiums and
Speaker 4: they're filled no matter what.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: Utah played BYU but that place was crazy Rock Saturday.
Speaker 4: But they sell anyway. Yeah, because they have a smaller capacity.
Speaker 4: That's one thing Arizona has to address about their capacity.
Speaker 4: It's it's at a time as he reduced theras considerably.
Speaker 2: So you know, let's just let's let this go there
Speaker 2: because we've talked about that. Have you seen the San
Speaker 2: Diego Stadium?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice, right, very comfortable, forty forty two?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: It is very nice, very new obviously, But does it matter. Listen,
Speaker 2: Let's say Arizona did this to result to a forty two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: would it matter then? Because if you're gonna get forty
Speaker 2: two anyway, why arrange it to be forty two just
Speaker 2: for aesthetics?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's at the stadium nowadays because people
Speaker 4: have other means of watch a game. Sure, sure, big
Speaker 4: screen TVs and cheaper beer, yeah, cheaper food, and other
Speaker 4: stadiums now or not, they're not. They're not like the
Speaker 4: seventy to eighty thousand stadiums that you see the new ones.
Speaker 2: Not for the teams. Yeah, not for the teams that
Speaker 2: that would get them, you know, like the big some
Speaker 2: of the big twelve can and he sees Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, Arizona has that big upper concourse and they
Speaker 4: really can't tear it, tear that down. But what they
Speaker 4: could do is be creative with it. Maybe sell all
Speaker 4: those seats for like five dollars and have all those
Speaker 4: all have all that money go to nil, and then
Speaker 4: just just try to sell the lower bowl, yeah, get
Speaker 4: that to get it all that comfortable. And then if
Speaker 4: they sell those top seats for only like five bucks
Speaker 4: and they're gonna, I mean, they'll still sell a lot
Speaker 4: of it. It's better be better to have them feeled
Speaker 4: than not field, right, I mean said, I said, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm here. You've been thinking about this. It's the head
Speaker 2: idea I have because.
Speaker 4: You know, you see Arizona game and you go to games,
Speaker 4: and I see your photos of the stadium. It's like
Speaker 4: it's an ice or with all those empty seats. But
Speaker 4: if they are all it was like a forty thousand
Speaker 4: guarant you know, season ticket holders and and uh tickets
Speaker 4: sold and and it was built to that, then that's
Speaker 4: not nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So okay, let's like that idea and we think
Speaker 2: it's a good idea. Do you think now, and you're
Speaker 2: a native, you go to games when whether you like
Speaker 2: it or not, do you think that people would actually
Speaker 2: take advantage of that five dollars sale.
Speaker 3: Families that normally don't get in. Can?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's it's it's something that they
Speaker 4: really have to think about because I know they sold
Speaker 4: out the supposedly sold out the Colorado game, right you
Speaker 4: were there?
Speaker 3: Was that a sellout? Okay?
Speaker 2: No? But but also but also have given the circumstances
Speaker 2: of events that they weren't playing well in Colorado? Uh no,
Speaker 2: I lie, I did not go to that game because
Speaker 2: that was something that had happened to me. Okay, so
Speaker 2: I didn't go. Uh but uh but I saw it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it was you know how, And someone's already
Speaker 2: called to be and I'm like, I'm negative Nancy for
Speaker 2: the crowd. But I'm not. No, I'm truthful, the truthful
Speaker 2: terry in this. Because they arrive late, they leave early.
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me, Steve, you're full of it. If
Speaker 2: I am arrive late, they leave early, and if you're
Speaker 2: not winning, they don't go, you know.
Speaker 4: And it's happened a little bit of McHale now because
Speaker 4: we've heard Tommy Lloyd kind of a couple of years.
Speaker 2: For every reason. You know, he says, great point because
Speaker 2: we were there Saturday when they played uh and they
Speaker 2: had maybe twelve thousand, a lot of empty and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking exactly what you were thinking or just saying that.
Speaker 2: He said, well, if you're going to talk the game,
Speaker 2: if you guys are big time evans, you better start
Speaker 2: showing up, right remember that first year? Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 2: had every right to say that too, right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at all these other venues and again a lot
Speaker 2: of the venues are more geared to students, and they're
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit smaller than what But mckel's not
Speaker 2: that big.
Speaker 4: I mean, the thirteen thousand considerably to other arenas. Correct,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like an average size, not big, not
Speaker 4: too small, And it has sold out for the most part.
Speaker 4: But the Arizona Stadium, especially compared to like how as
Speaker 4: you did theirs, is there's too much. There's too much
Speaker 4: on the on the east side.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: They have to be creative with that now and hopefully
Speaker 4: they're thought about it like something where they can't really
Speaker 4: they can't really tear that down, or maybe they can,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but they can range it where those
Speaker 4: seats are like really low cost and you have that
Speaker 4: money go to NIL because you're not going to sell
Speaker 4: them at anyway.
Speaker 3: Right, do something like that.
Speaker 2: It's a great idea because it gives people a chance
Speaker 2: to be part of the part of the program, right
Speaker 2: given to NIL by buying and and who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: they'll catch fire again at some point in the in
Speaker 2: the in the Brennan years, right.
Speaker 4: And I mean things can change year to year, they
Speaker 4: can modify that. But for now, I mean, that's it
Speaker 4: is an eyesore. And I know, I know that those
Speaker 4: tickets are not very expensive now anyway, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure, but you see people sitting up there, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure they're taking advantage of the prices, but
Speaker 4: it is it is something to consider because right cycle
Speaker 4: stadium at Utah.
Speaker 3: That seat's about forty thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you think bandwidth for Arizona? Forty five would
Speaker 2: be the max even on good days? Even on good
Speaker 2: days because we've seen it. I've been here a long time.
Speaker 2: I'd only pay attention to football attendance unless I go
Speaker 2: that you're asking a lot for them to go fifty
Speaker 2: or asking a ton, and it.
Speaker 4: Has to be huge game, right, what's capacity of fifty
Speaker 4: is a fifty seven? At one point it was that lough.
Speaker 4: I think they lowered it.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of this the bit chair back seats now,
Speaker 4: so it's probably like around fifty to fifty two.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be on an exception, right, rather
Speaker 2: than the rule. So forty five. If you got that
Speaker 2: and figured out how to get the forty five consistently,
Speaker 2: maybe win a little, that would be It's okay. Back
Speaker 2: to today, so you get here that today it's a
Speaker 2: Friday night game, late game Houston. Two bad teams. I'll
Speaker 2: say bad teams because they're bad teams. You what do
Speaker 2: you think? Sheer and I are giving out numbers, so
Speaker 2: I'll say what I said and I'll see what he said.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be like an Arizona Bowl crowd,
Speaker 4: like a like a thirty thousand.
Speaker 2: I said, exactly that, And that's that's there's a little
Speaker 2: Bowl game that's kind of pushing it to thirty thousand,
Speaker 2: you know, right, But he said twenty five. I said, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: I say, I think about thirty thousand.
Speaker 4: But again there's variations that they tell you how much
Speaker 4: tickets are sold, right, and then you see that the
Speaker 4: crowd is in this same as what the tickets.
Speaker 2: You remember when you and I covered the Toros back
Speaker 2: in the eighties nineties, blah blah blah, and they would say,
Speaker 2: you know that, and it'd be like twenty five in
Speaker 2: a July. And that's no disrespect. I mean that's how
Speaker 2: many people showed up in.
Speaker 4: A one hundred and two degree weather, right, So you
Speaker 4: know your tickets sold and all that.
Speaker 2: But I hope they do. They're still, you know, working
Speaker 2: their butt off and doing all that. But I understand
Speaker 2: if if you have twenty bucks in your pocket, hub
Speaker 2: or mean, would I go?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It all depends on who the fan is too. I mean,
Speaker 4: if it's a die hard a fan that usually goes,
Speaker 4: they're going to go. If it's a fan that's new
Speaker 4: from out of town or casual fan, they're not going
Speaker 4: to go. So it all depends on who the fan is.
Speaker 4: And as students should go. I mean, they're the students,
Speaker 4: so the students should always fillip zone as well.
Speaker 2: Ask when, because I was gonna ask him, are you
Speaker 2: going to go? Henry?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I am eight thirty eight, fifteen to
Speaker 3: fifteen anything.
Speaker 5: I wasn't planning on it originally because I think the
Speaker 5: basketball team's playing at the same time against Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: So you watch that, that's a pack And guess who
Speaker 2: Tyson's fighting that night too, Yeah, so you know you
Speaker 2: and guess what what else are you doing?
Speaker 3: Football? High school?
Speaker 2: High school football. Yeah, it's a smortgan sport of stuff.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It's a lot And I tweeted it out today that
Speaker 4: THEA should seriously look at moving those Friday games and
Speaker 4: Tucson to either Thursday night or Saturday afternoon because of
Speaker 4: the especially Tucson High and sell Point.
Speaker 3: They're so close to the u of A.
Speaker 4: That's going to be a logistic nightmare, especially Tucson High,
Speaker 4: because they're gonna be planning at the same time the
Speaker 4: u of A's playing.
Speaker 2: Okay here in that area. How much is gas and
Speaker 2: bread in your Pollyanna world as.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah that's somebody. Somebody tweeted back to me.
Speaker 4: I wish you would have made the suggestion early, because
Speaker 4: already me plans like I don't work.
Speaker 3: For the a A. But I suggest doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: Do you think they even get a whiff of that?
Speaker 3: But if they will, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if they get it with Hey, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3: It has to be done right away.
Speaker 4: Today's more a veterans day, so they're not gonna do
Speaker 4: anything today, but it would have to be done like
Speaker 4: for tomorrow if they make a decision like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: Some referees are kind of like up in the air
Speaker 4: because a lot of them work at the U of
Speaker 4: A Games. They either work on the chains or they
Speaker 4: do some other stuff that help out the officials, So
Speaker 4: they have that going there too.
Speaker 2: Frustrating preparations because if they go Thursday, you have one
Speaker 2: fewer days, one less data to get ready, and if Saturday,
Speaker 2: well now you have to co make arrangements a different way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Saturday might be more sensible because it
Speaker 4: gives the visiting team from Phoenix more time to get
Speaker 4: here and settle in. If it's Thursday, then they have
Speaker 4: to go to school and then travel here. So but
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if these just stuck to Friday,
Speaker 4: which would be would not be obviously not a surprise
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's kind of set up the day today. So
Speaker 2: have you ever Morales here with me? All sportsdosum dot
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Speaker 2: more than you want. But it's all there for you
Speaker 2: if you like it. I kind of dabble in the
Speaker 2: Arizona stuff, but I have time. Uh, and then we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about a lot of the high school stuff too.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Calvin Ethon here in the first hour,
Speaker 2: in about five minutes, and then in the second hour
Speaker 2: we're gonna have t. J. Juskowitz. It's we're about ten
Speaker 2: days away from the eltor to Tucson. Everybody knows in
Speaker 2: Tucson what that is traffic and uh, cyclists about nine
Speaker 2: thousand cyclists going around town. Javier does some help for
Speaker 2: me in the mornings, she gets and gets and helps
Speaker 2: them direct the traffic and or at least know who
Speaker 2: the cyclists are.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you're you're the roster guy.
Speaker 4: I give information to the person on the radio, big
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Speaker 2: In the in the leadia and then uh, which is
Speaker 2: which is valuable stuff? Okay, so that'll be in the
Speaker 2: second hour. We might have time. Henry's gonna let me
Speaker 2: know about the today's press conference. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we'll do that because people we read it last time
Speaker 2: and people say, why why are you doing that?
Speaker 3: It's even longer this time.
Speaker 2: Okay, we we might do it. We might take a
Speaker 2: couple of clips. We'll see Henry and then figured out.
Speaker 2: But I'm really I heard Kevin over the weekend on Saturday.
Speaker 2: There's talking a lot about basketball. We'll do both because
Speaker 2: he played basketball and he played football. He had more
Speaker 2: of an impact in football, So I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: him how much you of a football needs Kelvin Ethan
Speaker 2: because he was the guy, the verbal guy, the captain guy.
Speaker 2: And whether t mac or Noah are the captains something
Speaker 2: there's disconnected. I've been saying this for weeks now, they're
Speaker 2: they're more of like inspirational like examples, they're they're not vocal.
Speaker 2: To me, it doesn't seem like they're like vocal like
Speaker 2: you know, get people riled up type leaders. And that's
Speaker 2: there by example. Yeah, and that's exactly That's exactly why
Speaker 2: I wanted to get Kelvin. I said, Kelvin, uh bless
Speaker 2: his heart and and and all that, because they need
Speaker 2: dudes like that they either not to kick asked, but
Speaker 2: to get them on the right track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dick Tomy said he's the best leader that he
Speaker 4: had they could, right.
Speaker 2: It's probably in the years that he coached Pobby's for
Speaker 2: some stuff that Dick didn't have to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he relied on him to get the
Speaker 4: guys motivated and uh, you know ready mentally. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think I think Fafida and McMillan lead in their
Speaker 4: own way. And I think McMillan actually the last couple
Speaker 4: of games has actually stepped forward a little bit more
Speaker 4: to be a leader than he started out with, even
Speaker 4: admitted his body language was not what it should have
Speaker 4: been that for a few games. So I think the
Speaker 4: last couple of games he's kind of showed some kind
Speaker 4: of you know, some determination, and he's he's talking more,
Speaker 4: it seems like to his teammates during the game. So
Speaker 4: they need more of that, they need more of being
Speaker 4: were people watching it, we'll see that they're more like
Speaker 4: a unit.
Speaker 2: Okay, Henry, can we go?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take off now come back in
Speaker 2: about three four minutes with Kelvin Ethan. Get more involved
Speaker 2: with the basketball team and the football team.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes and ohs. This is I
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box sportsporteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I and the Ball here Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Avo Morales now NFL.
Speaker 2: We have former U of A football player and basketball here,
Speaker 2: Kelvin Ivon. Kelvin, how are you.
Speaker 13: I'm doing good. I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: How you got We're doing fine. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: You've been on the show before. I was listening to
Speaker 2: you over the weekend and I'm thinking Kelvin's coming up
Speaker 2: with some stuff. I want to talk to him real
Speaker 2: quick about this. So so back. Oh god, I want
Speaker 2: to tell you almost thirty years ago. Sorry to say that,
Speaker 2: Kelvin if sorry, Yeah you could, yeah you can probably
Speaker 2: still play. You were talking about and it sounds brilliant
Speaker 2: stuff about kids today. The good thing is you're you're
Speaker 2: a former player both basketball football and a former coach.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get a lot of perspectives from you.
Speaker 2: You were talking about kids today or maybe even back then.
Speaker 2: Show up to Arizona or places like Arizona. One want
Speaker 2: to play a lot right away because they all have
Speaker 2: visions of the NFL or NBA and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: You still, it's probably worse now, yeah.
Speaker 13: I mean yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, now
Speaker 13: you got nil, which helps out a lot now with
Speaker 13: a lot of these guys. I mean, they put a
Speaker 13: little change in their pocket. But yeah, man, I mean
Speaker 13: when you you came to school, man, you was just
Speaker 13: looking having that dream man of you know, becoming rich
Speaker 13: and famous one day. I mean, that's that's just the dream.
Speaker 2: So and you said, and you said, and if you
Speaker 2: weren't getting time, you're wondering what the hell like you
Speaker 2: you had? You had damon, you had some pretty good
Speaker 2: guys ahead of you, and you're thinking, what am I
Speaker 2: gonna get mine?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Man, you know you you you plan on playing with
Speaker 13: those guys when you get recruited. You don't see yourself
Speaker 13: as you know, being the odd guy out, possibly having
Speaker 13: a red shirt or something like that. I mean, I
Speaker 13: think I was mentioning that a lot as a kid,
Speaker 13: you don't staying when a coach want to show you
Speaker 13: he actually liked you a little bit. You know, he
Speaker 13: wants he given you an extra year of school and
Speaker 13: where you can get your master's degree or something like that,
Speaker 13: and it helps with your development. But as a kid,
Speaker 13: a lot of times you look at it's like I'm
Speaker 13: a failure or I'm not good enough to be here,
Speaker 13: so I need to go somewhere where I can play.
Speaker 2: No question. And that's what struck me with you, with you,
Speaker 2: because that's the way the things are today, especially with
Speaker 2: the you know, immediate satisfaction. So when did you kind
Speaker 2: of realize that when you were like thirty, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because at the time you're still probably
Speaker 2: young thinking and you're not alone. It's this is a
Speaker 2: lot of.
Speaker 13: Kids, well, I mean definitely ass as you get older
Speaker 13: or whatever. I didn't have a choice but to stay
Speaker 13: because I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to leave out
Speaker 13: of the first semester after the first of us that
Speaker 13: I call my grand mom. I say, hey, you know
Speaker 13: TCU sounds great right now, right right right, And you know,
Speaker 13: right next to being home, and a lot of it
Speaker 13: was the distance away from home, you know, being from
Speaker 13: I didn't realize how much it costs to fly back,
Speaker 13: how much it cost to fly back back in the day,
Speaker 13: you know, you get the free ticket to fly out
Speaker 13: here and everything, and so you don't realize how much
Speaker 13: it's gonna cost your family to come see you at games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no question, no question, Yeah, Calvin Javier, it's
Speaker 4: you know you also put on this now with with
Speaker 4: the transfer portal, coaches of other schools probably getting a
Speaker 4: hold of some guys and say hey, you can come
Speaker 4: here and play right away or as before they couldn't
Speaker 4: do that, And I think that's that's caused a lot
Speaker 4: of guys getting into the portal and then moving somewhere else.
Speaker 4: So I mean, if that was if this was going
Speaker 4: on when you were playing, how many how many guys
Speaker 4: you think would have left h and moved on from
Speaker 4: you can remember.
Speaker 13: Well, uh, well it was going on and you just
Speaker 13: had to sit out a year, right. I had plenty
Speaker 13: of people contact me, trust me saying you're gonna sit
Speaker 13: on the bench over there. And you know, coach are
Speaker 13: telling you because they prepare you for it when they're
Speaker 13: recruiting you, right, so when they recruit and they be like, hey,
Speaker 13: if things don't go right, you know you can always
Speaker 13: come home if things don't go right. You know you'd
Speaker 13: be a better fit over here at Way far Ist
Speaker 13: so at you know, Texas, TCU or Baylor, and you know,
Speaker 13: you think about it, you start looking at their rosters
Speaker 13: and you started thinking to yourself, like, man, I could
Speaker 13: go play over that right now. So, uh, it's just
Speaker 13: it's just one of those things though, with with with
Speaker 13: with now, with the with the portal being there, it's
Speaker 13: just the thing where you got to re recruit your
Speaker 13: guys every year. You have to. You have to give
Speaker 13: them love and a little bit more love than they
Speaker 13: used to have to give us back in the day.
Speaker 13: You know, one of the biggest jobs for the head
Speaker 13: coach now is making sure all the guys are good.
Speaker 13: You want to stick around.
Speaker 2: So what kept you here?
Speaker 13: Well, my grandmother, my grandmother, my grandmother told me when
Speaker 13: I was a kid, I mean I was a kid,
Speaker 13: I mean I was was that my first, Grandma, I
Speaker 13: wanted to go, I wanted to transfer, and she told me, Kevin,
Speaker 13: you never could quit at anything you've ever done, So
Speaker 13: it was that challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me say, let me say. That's another reason
Speaker 2: I wanted to get you on the phone is is
Speaker 2: I think the team this year football team specifically needs
Speaker 2: a kill any fund they probably need too. Well, you
Speaker 2: don't want because let me say, and I'll ask you
Speaker 2: a different question with tell me earlier, but I think
Speaker 2: they need someone, you know, the leader guy that you were.
Speaker 2: And obviously they tell me love love that part of
Speaker 2: you too, but they need someone to say, come on, dudes,
Speaker 2: and then how you would do it, let's get your
Speaker 2: crap together.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I remember being in this situation. We
Speaker 13: were in a situation where we were three and five.
Speaker 13: I remember, and you know, things were looking awry, and
Speaker 13: it was one time where I did step up in
Speaker 13: the leadership at the time, and and all the was
Speaker 13: was as a player saying, first of all, you have
Speaker 13: to have the respect of the team of coming every day,
Speaker 13: working hard, doing all the little things that expected of
Speaker 13: the team. Of what a or what a winner looks like.
Speaker 13: That's the first thing your actions have to speak loud
Speaker 13: in your words. So they have to respect you before
Speaker 13: you can even speak a word to them, and they
Speaker 13: and then believe in you at all. But but but secondly,
Speaker 13: when you do speak to them, you have to speak
Speaker 13: to reality and say, hey, look, guys, these coaches. One
Speaker 13: of the things I would say, these coaches get the
Speaker 13: coach the rest of their life, that this is our
Speaker 13: only chance to play.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 13: Hey, let's let's let's get over all the accolades and
Speaker 13: all the paths on the back and all the money
Speaker 13: that they're paying us and everything, and let's remember that
Speaker 13: we're here to play football, and we're here to figure
Speaker 13: out a way to put our name in history so
Speaker 13: we'll be remembered and not just be an afterthought.
Speaker 2: You sound so sensible now, I'm sure you gave him
Speaker 2: a piece of their mind too. I mean nice because
Speaker 2: it have to be on the radio.
Speaker 13: Oh no, I mean, I mean, I mean it's not
Speaker 13: as what a lot of people think. I mean, we've
Speaker 13: been in situation, were in a situation where I did
Speaker 13: get a little greasy. But in a situation like this,
Speaker 13: that's what you just have to remember. You have to
Speaker 13: remind these guys a lot as a teammate man that Hey,
Speaker 13: you know a lot of you guys got a lot
Speaker 13: of great dreams and everything, but some of us really
Speaker 13: love what we're doing. You know, follow us and and
Speaker 13: it's something that simple. I mean. And then you got
Speaker 13: to get out on the field and up. I mean,
Speaker 13: you got to get some fourth and ones, you got
Speaker 13: to get some short yardist touchdowns and everything like that.
Speaker 13: In tough situations where there's two guys right there in
Speaker 13: front of you and you got to jump over one
Speaker 13: and run over the other one, you have to. You
Speaker 13: got to figure out stuff. Your players make plays, and
Speaker 13: people follow people that made plays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, I was, and I was just looking
Speaker 4: it up to in nineteen ninety eight, where you guys
Speaker 4: had a twelve and one season.
Speaker 3: The year before that, you guys had some tough losses.
Speaker 4: He lost by thirty at Washington fifty eight to twenty eight,
Speaker 4: something like that. So it's kind of similar where you
Speaker 4: guys were going through some problems there in ninety seven.
Speaker 4: So what do you what do you remember about transitioning
Speaker 4: from that where you guys had those kind of problems
Speaker 4: to having a twelve and one season.
Speaker 3: What was the what was the key to that. I
Speaker 3: think it was that year.
Speaker 13: Actually you're coming from the year before we were five
Speaker 13: and six. Uh So going into that ninety seven season,
Speaker 13: you were excited. Everybody stayed and worked out, We were
Speaker 13: excited about just getting.
Speaker 3: To a bowl game.
Speaker 13: We all were embarrassed about being at home in ninety six.
Speaker 13: I got talked about a couple of times, you know,
Speaker 13: hanging out a couple of boys that were back home
Speaker 13: playing in the Common Bowl. Was like you at home
Speaker 13: doing ball time, you know. And I vowed to never
Speaker 13: be at home again doing both time. So that had
Speaker 13: a lot to do with it. But but yeah, you
Speaker 13: put that time, and you put that extra work in
Speaker 13: the weight room, so when you end up three and five,
Speaker 13: it's just it just now it's like, forget who the
Speaker 13: coaches made captains, forget who who everybody think of the leaders.
Speaker 13: Hey we're going this way now, guys, and hey, the
Speaker 13: people not want to call out efforts and want to
Speaker 13: want to keep blaming on the coach. And what I
Speaker 13: hate more than anything is when they blame the coaches
Speaker 13: and the coaches plays and all that. You know, I believe,
Speaker 13: you know, great athletes, great talent. I'll do any playbooking
Speaker 13: in the world. Okay, I don't care what your playbook
Speaker 13: you have. If you got some real players that love
Speaker 13: the game, they're going to figure out a way to
Speaker 13: make things work. And that's that's what I used to
Speaker 13: come to the guys with some some just like that.
Speaker 13: Come on, now, I don't care what they're calling. Let's
Speaker 13: figure out a way to make this work. Our name
Speaker 13: is on this.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you. Do you what's your observation.
Speaker 2: Is it a little bit different than mine where they
Speaker 2: need some you know, maybe kicking the butt to get
Speaker 2: them going.
Speaker 13: You know, I don't necessarily think they needed a kick
Speaker 13: in the butt. I think, you know, one of the
Speaker 13: toughest thing I've said, I think I've said this the
Speaker 13: whole time is you have to have people behind you
Speaker 13: that is pushing you for playing time. OJ Keith had,
Speaker 13: OJ Trunk had me, and I had you know who
Speaker 13: Paul shields or same thing at the tight end position
Speaker 13: or the offensive line. You go back and look at
Speaker 13: that team on both sides of the ball first, and
Speaker 13: I just feel like with it being a new coach,
Speaker 13: they didn't get a chance to make that they had
Speaker 13: when Jed Glaura had Noah behind him, right, So he
Speaker 13: knew if something happened, I got this young guy behind
Speaker 13: me that might not let it go. So I feel
Speaker 13: a lot of it has to do with the new
Speaker 13: with the coaching change, uh, and being just with the
Speaker 13: players themselves with the season. I just think some unfortunate
Speaker 13: injuries and everything, and having that target on your back
Speaker 13: of being one of the top teams in the country
Speaker 13: and and you hadn't quite played a game. I think
Speaker 13: they probably was was was feeling feeling themselves too much
Speaker 13: and didn't realize the dog fight that they were in for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't sense that too.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a unique situation they had coming
Speaker 4: into this because they had it was a player It
Speaker 4: seemed like it was a player led team rather than
Speaker 4: a coach led team because of all the guys, the
Speaker 4: key guys that came back. Not a lot of guys,
Speaker 4: but key guys came back. So here's Bren Brannan coming in,
Speaker 4: never coached at this level, He's coaches sat as a
Speaker 4: state and you have these these big names that were
Speaker 4: getting national attention. So do you think he might have
Speaker 4: kind of backed away from them to a degree to
Speaker 4: not not supersede what they're what they meant to this team.
Speaker 4: And do you think that kind of backfired on him
Speaker 4: or how would did you have handled that? If you're
Speaker 4: a brandan coming into that situation, it's really unique. Not
Speaker 4: a lot of coaches have.
Speaker 3: To deal with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Man, that was a tough one right there. I felt
Speaker 13: for him. I've said this, Man, I felt for him
Speaker 13: when I when when they when the guys came out
Speaker 13: on the court and announced that they were coming back
Speaker 13: and they were accepting him as their coach. Like wait
Speaker 13: a minute. I was like, I was like, oh, man, okay,
Speaker 13: I was worried about that a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 13: because you know, when you have star players like that,
Speaker 13: you're a new coach coming in, you don't want to
Speaker 13: really rough with no feathers. I mean, you respect what
Speaker 13: they've done, you respect their resume, so you kind of
Speaker 13: respect them and give them a chance to get going.
Speaker 13: And we saw that in the NAU game where I
Speaker 13: mean he got ten balls. If I was being the coach,
Speaker 13: I mean some kind of way, I would have stopped
Speaker 13: at six and started going to other people. So so
Speaker 13: I feel like so the defenses could have had the
Speaker 13: adjusted him but hey, I'm on the chair on the
Speaker 13: couch talking about that. These guys got the job, so
Speaker 13: they they're they're figuring that out. But I just felt
Speaker 13: like that you don't have a now and t Mac
Speaker 13: and those guys having so much you know, leadership over
Speaker 13: the Polynesian guys on the team whatever. It just felt
Speaker 13: like that it was their team and the coaches kind
Speaker 13: of set back and let it happen. Now, I do
Speaker 13: respect that a lot of time, because I do hate
Speaker 13: the coaches that come in We're gonna do it my way,
Speaker 13: and you guys, I understand whatever happened then, but this
Speaker 13: is what we're doing. I kind of respect the coaches
Speaker 13: that give gods a chance, especially the guys that came
Speaker 13: back to see if they got it and see how
Speaker 13: things are going. So I do respect that. And that's
Speaker 13: what Tommy Lloyd did. Remember Tommy Lloyd came he started
Speaker 13: all the guys that was on the previous team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13: I thought that was smart of him because he made
Speaker 13: them responsible for the team. And I just feel like
Speaker 13: just with these guys with the football team this year,
Speaker 13: things didn't go as quite as good because of again
Speaker 13: some of the injuries and the guys that we lost.
Speaker 13: I think people underestimated that same thing from the ninety
Speaker 13: eight team, where I feel like that the guys that
Speaker 13: we lost in that team and us coming in rank
Speaker 13: so high was really not realistic like that because the
Speaker 13: losses that we had were huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, let's switch to football real quick. Thanks for
Speaker 2: that information. With the football team basketball, you're one of
Speaker 2: the voices pregame post game. What do you What do
Speaker 2: you like so far? What do you don't like so far?
Speaker 2: But I think he's probably more like than anything.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 13: I like that their deep life is It seemed like
Speaker 13: they the legitimate have nine to ten guys that could
Speaker 13: get a team some real playing time. So I think that,
Speaker 13: you know, coach is gonna have to figure out how
Speaker 13: to keep all those guys happy. So I'm happy that
Speaker 13: he have so many good guys. I just think it's
Speaker 13: gonna be tough figuring out how to get the comrade
Speaker 13: Martinez is and the you know, minutes in these these
Speaker 13: big games, and how he's gonna figure out the big
Speaker 13: man rotation with four legit guys that could play there.
Speaker 13: So man excited for the talent on the team. Just
Speaker 13: it's such being a coach trying to figure out how
Speaker 13: to get these guys significant and playing time.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, Okay, now, I
Speaker 2: want to put your coach your coach hat on now,
Speaker 2: so deep down I know this probably from you coming
Speaker 2: that it's not your job to make the kids happy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go after the best guys to play.
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, yeah, i'mna play the best guys, man, And
Speaker 13: it usually comes down to playing those guys thirty minutes
Speaker 13: a game. So it's just gonna be some minie square,
Speaker 13: you know, squeezed out for some guys.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 13: You know, I think it's been cool with Coach kind
Speaker 13: of playing everybody earlier in the year. And I remember
Speaker 13: Coach Osi used to didn't do that a lot, Like
Speaker 13: he would make sure you didn't get a lot of
Speaker 13: minutes because he wants you thinking that you were, you know,
Speaker 13: playing so well that you deserve to play more minutes,
Speaker 13: right right, right, That's the way I felt what he
Speaker 13: was doing. But you know, he's giving these guys just
Speaker 13: enough time. Like you see Carter Bryant man, I mean
Speaker 13: I thought he would be another guy that would be uh,
Speaker 13: you know, short some minutes coming into the into the season.
Speaker 13: When these tough games come up. But you know, he
Speaker 13: gave him enough minutes the other night to audition for
Speaker 13: a more in it. So it's just gonna be tough
Speaker 13: figuring out how to get those guys on the court
Speaker 13: because that that that top seven eight is pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 13: I think the backup point guard position is going to
Speaker 13: be interesting to see how kJ lewis, who looks like
Speaker 13: he's getting, you know, brought up in that role.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 13: There also seems like he's gonna be a guy with
Speaker 13: the second unit that possibly could be a point guard.
Speaker 13: And I'm sure they're gonna use Kate Love at that
Speaker 13: as well. So it's gonna be interesting to see how
Speaker 13: that all shapes out.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know the fact that you know Seohn Miller
Speaker 4: is a good coach, but the motto when he was
Speaker 4: coaching was a player's program. It was more like a
Speaker 4: player's program directed by me. Basically, I don't want him down.
Speaker 4: I don't want a bad mouth. This is this is
Speaker 4: more of a players This is more of a ployer
Speaker 4: players program under Tommy Lloydber He's letting them breathe and
Speaker 4: letting them play to their strengths. And uh, you could
Speaker 4: tell just by the and you probably experienced this when
Speaker 4: when you played with for Loot is just the the uh,
Speaker 4: the camaraderie and the business like manner that they do
Speaker 4: it and the fun they're having. That's that's winning basketball.
Speaker 4: Now where you feel restricted or you're afraid they're gonna
Speaker 4: be sent to the bench if he missed a shot
Speaker 4: or make a turnover. I think he lets them play
Speaker 4: and he's relying a lot on something like Caleb loved
Speaker 4: to be a leader, and Caleb has kind of embraced that.
Speaker 4: I think he's he's got the right kind of mindset.
Speaker 4: He's he's he's not not you know, overwhelming neither with
Speaker 4: these guys.
Speaker 3: He's he's uh.
Speaker 4: From what I can tell from watching on TV. I'm
Speaker 4: not at the games, but he seems like he's more
Speaker 4: of like a facilitator and more of a guy that
Speaker 4: wants everybody to contribute and not him take over the game,
Speaker 4: where maybe that happened a little bit too much last year.
Speaker 3: Do you feel that, yeah, well, no.
Speaker 13: Man, Caleb is just maturing. He's a guy that's in
Speaker 13: his field year and he has the two thousand points
Speaker 13: and he's done all almost everything except actually win a
Speaker 13: National Championship Player of the Year last time in the
Speaker 13: PAC twelve. I think it was easy for coach Lloyd
Speaker 13: to talk to him and say, hey, look, man, you
Speaker 13: know the only reason for you to be back here
Speaker 13: is the opportunity to win a national championship and the
Speaker 13: better your stock to play in the NBA. That's the
Speaker 13: only reason you want. Every other ward you can think of.
Speaker 13: So the way to get there, the NBA people told
Speaker 13: him is to understand that he's gonna have to be
Speaker 13: a catch and shoot guy. He's not gonna be able
Speaker 13: to be a guy that put the ball on the
Speaker 13: floor ten times and make a million moves and shoot
Speaker 13: thirty foot threes. You have to do it on the
Speaker 13: catch and shoot. So that's one thing you're noticing he's
Speaker 13: doing is three point attempts are off catch and shoot.
Speaker 13: The other thing that's that's beautiful, he's moving the ball
Speaker 13: around because he's understanding that to play with NBA players,
Speaker 13: you're gonna be playing with superstars that demand that basketball
Speaker 13: and you have to get off of it. You have
Speaker 13: zero point five seconds to get off that ball or
Speaker 13: it's a hanger inad he's gonna blow up in your
Speaker 13: hands and something bad is gonna happen. So I think
Speaker 13: that he's trying to, you know, use that idea as
Speaker 13: far as the way to play ball with this team,
Speaker 13: because I think that that's gonna be his best opportunity
Speaker 13: to play in the pros is to be a better defender,
Speaker 13: which he has a great chance to do with with
Speaker 13: Bradley next to him in kJ Lewis, because with those
Speaker 13: two guys he gets to play against with he gets
Speaker 13: to play the third best offensive player because kJ Lewis
Speaker 13: gets the best guy and Jay and Bradley gets the
Speaker 13: second best offensive player. So now Love becomes a better
Speaker 13: defender almost by default because he gets to go against
Speaker 13: the third guy. Right, So he has opportunities, man, to
Speaker 13: show growth with this team because of the talent that
Speaker 13: you know coach Lord as a symbol.
Speaker 2: Kevin, I was good talking to you. This goes by
Speaker 2: real fast, and guess we'll have to get get you
Speaker 2: back on another time. Talk more about you know, some
Speaker 2: updates and stuff.
Speaker 13: Oh man, I appreciate you guys, Man brad out, thank you.
Speaker 2: To take care of Kevin. Yes, that's Kevin from twelve
Speaker 2: ninety does a great job. The former you of a
Speaker 2: guy and he's I think he's been a little nice,
Speaker 2: you know, because he likes the team obviously. But I
Speaker 2: don't know if you believe what I'm saying with the
Speaker 2: you know, they have to something.
Speaker 3: With the Yeah, with amalteam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's feel like there has to be something
Speaker 4: from the first game, yes, when it hasn't maticulated, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Roth the year. I want you to ask
Speaker 2: me to tell me the question you asked him again
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to On the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Please have your morales
Speaker 2: from ollsports tuson dot com. And we've got Henry working
Speaker 2: the board. Uh so, I'm the handicapped in this room.
Speaker 2: Uh so. So thanks Kevin for coming on the show.
Speaker 2: And I think that's good stuff. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: how you've covered a lot of teams through the years.
Speaker 2: You know, we covered a pretty good one and and
Speaker 2: loot what what have you? What have you learned about
Speaker 2: coaches in your time covering coaches?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 13: What?
Speaker 4: And I listened to your show quite a bit, so
Speaker 4: I've heard you say it the coach. The players have
Speaker 4: to you know, know that the coach runs the show
Speaker 4: and they have to be accountable, right And I know
Speaker 4: that you've mentioned before that the players have to realize
Speaker 4: that they have to do the job or else, you know,
Speaker 4: somebody else will step in, or that they'll they'll have
Speaker 4: to perform or there will be changes. But uh, there
Speaker 4: has to be some accountability there. The coach has to
Speaker 4: show them that, you know, the buck stops here type
Speaker 4: of personality, not not where they they're you know, too
Speaker 4: demanding and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Well that's rowbeating.
Speaker 4: But they have to the players have to look at
Speaker 4: the coach as being the guy or they or the woman,
Speaker 4: you know, if they have to look at that and
Speaker 4: and the and the coach has to portray that image
Speaker 4: that hey, I'm all things go through me, and how
Speaker 4: you play depends on how I lead you guys, and
Speaker 4: you have to perform accordingly. If they don't feel any
Speaker 4: kind of accountability or if they don't feel like they're gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, that there's anything that's gonna happen to them,
Speaker 4: sure they're gonna They're gonna continue on their bad tendencies.
Speaker 4: We see a lot of penalties in this team. We
Speaker 4: see a lot of mistakes and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying that this is a poorly
Speaker 4: coach team. I'm just it just feels like we're who's
Speaker 4: who's directing the show? And why why aren't the players
Speaker 4: understanding that brand.
Speaker 3: Is the guy? Yeah, I don't. I don't get that
Speaker 3: feeling all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I kind of know where you're going with this because
Speaker 2: I've said it as you said, I think coaching matters.
Speaker 2: I've always thought that, having done governed Loop for a
Speaker 2: long time and dictomy and things like that. There were
Speaker 2: days when he may have lost control of time or two,
Speaker 2: but he put his foot down and that was fixed.
Speaker 2: You know, Chris Rogers at a time. There's a couple
Speaker 2: of other players. But let me say so you covered
Speaker 2: high schools as well. Who don't give me the who
Speaker 2: give me the qualities of a good high school coach?
Speaker 2: Because it translates to any coach.
Speaker 4: The quality of a good high school coach because you're
Speaker 4: dealing with young guys is girls, is that those players
Speaker 4: would do anything for that coach because they see what
Speaker 4: kind of a person he or she is, how they
Speaker 4: communicate with them, how they stress development, character, how they
Speaker 4: you know, they show a hard side and the soft side.
Speaker 4: That those are the best coaches. And that's why players,
Speaker 4: especially young ones will warm up to a coach that
Speaker 4: will get on them, like really get on them if
Speaker 4: they mess up in practice or in the game or
Speaker 4: something like that, but at the end, at the same time,
Speaker 4: talk to them and you know, encourage them. Those are
Speaker 4: the type of players, you know, coaches that players really
Speaker 4: warm up to you. And you could see that a
Speaker 4: lot in some of these high school football coaches that
Speaker 4: we have so many good ones in the southern Arizona,
Speaker 4: Pat Nugent down down the line, there's there's so many
Speaker 4: good ones.
Speaker 3: Zach Neville f at Tucson High. He's really coming on.
Speaker 4: He's a young guy, but he's he's he's demanding and
Speaker 4: he always talks and he also talks to players.
Speaker 3: You got to be that.
Speaker 4: You got to be both sides. You can't be too
Speaker 4: passive and he can't be too aggressive. And you know, again,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not there every day, I'm not in
Speaker 4: the i'm not in the meetings, I'm not in the locker.
Speaker 3: Room with Arizona.
Speaker 4: But I feel like there needs to be some more
Speaker 4: of like that kind of you know, personality from the
Speaker 4: coaching staff. And I think Dwayne and Keen is that way.
Speaker 4: That Dwayna Keen is a perfect example of something that
Speaker 4: would be a good coach in that manner. But that's
Speaker 4: his personality.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, no question, No, I agree with the demanding.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think some of the things that I've heard through
Speaker 2: the years. You got to know when to h to
Speaker 2: kick him in the butt, not figuratively, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: emotionally in otherwise, and know when to give him a hug.
Speaker 2: Just kind of that fine line of both. And today
Speaker 2: you know this, it's almost you have to treat them
Speaker 2: with kid gloves but not. And that's the fine line, right.
Speaker 4: We talked a little about, you know, Brent Brandan coming
Speaker 4: in in a unique situation where the the star guys
Speaker 4: came back and and a lot you know, I think
Speaker 4: people in Tucson, you know, really wanted these guys to
Speaker 4: do well because of that, because they came back and
Speaker 4: they put them on a pedestal, and I think the
Speaker 4: coaches worth grateful that they came back. And I think
Speaker 4: that kind of, you know, in a strange way, it
Speaker 4: kind of it kind of made for a different type
Speaker 4: of dynamic that we usually don't see in in uh,
Speaker 4: you know, in sports where where the players are put
Speaker 4: on a higher level to to uh, you know, a
Speaker 4: respect level including the coaches, whereas when we were talking
Speaker 4: about the coaches should come in and say, you know,
Speaker 4: we respect your decision.
Speaker 3: To come back.
Speaker 4: Where we're you know, excited about that. We're going to
Speaker 4: work together, you know, we're the coaches were we've we're
Speaker 4: going to have the we're we're going to set the agenda,
Speaker 4: and we're going to work together like that. It's nobody's team,
Speaker 4: it's we're We're a coaching staff that has to run
Speaker 4: this program. That that had that had to be expressed
Speaker 4: from the beginning. And I don't you know, and I
Speaker 4: know I'm not the only one who thinks that that
Speaker 4: was expressed, uh, you know, to to degree. And you
Speaker 4: know a lot of people complain about no, if if
Speaker 4: you had and everything taken hot out. He's he's the
Speaker 4: identifial leader, identifiable leader of Arizona, and he does so much,
Speaker 4: so many things, and he and he plays through so
Speaker 4: many difficult situations. He gets sacked, he has to run
Speaker 4: for his life a lot, and he's out there, you.
Speaker 3: Know, doing what he has to do. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people respect that. And he has struggled.
Speaker 4: But the offensive line has had some injuries, so it's
Speaker 4: not the same offensive line that was last year by
Speaker 4: any any stretch. But you know, like Calvin said, there's
Speaker 4: no off a FIA to have anybody behind him that's
Speaker 4: going to push him another notch. We don't know really
Speaker 4: who the backup quarterback is going to be when they
Speaker 4: comes in. Well, if he has to go him out right,
Speaker 4: we don't know that. We know there's we know some
Speaker 4: of their names. We don't know who's going to be
Speaker 4: the guy that would have to come in if the
Speaker 4: FIA got hurt or if he has to get pulled
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. You know, that's different too than what
Speaker 4: we've experienced in in past teams. So accountabilit accountability, feeling
Speaker 4: that that urged sense of urgency playing to the best
Speaker 4: of your ability because you have to play for the
Speaker 4: coach and the coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Do we fill that a lot with this team? I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think we do not enough anyway.
Speaker 4: So I think that's a big, big question mark with
Speaker 4: Arizona is how how is that coach the player interaction.
Speaker 4: What are the demands from the coaches, what's the accountability
Speaker 4: of the players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. We're what eight games
Speaker 2: in nine games in. I think it's not fixable with
Speaker 2: that right theory, right now because you've already you know,
Speaker 2: you've already gone through nine weeks or ten weeks of this.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a renew next year and kind of
Speaker 2: establish establish what you tried or needed to establish. And
Speaker 2: that's gonna be tough because you have a lot of
Speaker 2: the same characters if they come back on this year's team.
Speaker 2: How do you It's kind of like you're a teacher, uh,
Speaker 2: and you were a substitute teacher. I'm sure you're teaching.
Speaker 2: You're being the main teacher is a lot different than
Speaker 2: your substitute teacher because the kids treat you differently, and
Speaker 2: if you're a sub they don't give a crap about you.
Speaker 2: You're just there. You're you're the substitute teacher. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: you're right that.
Speaker 4: The mentality part of it is that you can see
Speaker 4: that a little bit because they're they were recruited there
Speaker 4: by a different coach. They there, they stayed there basically too,
Speaker 4: you know, to as a group, not because of Bret Brennan.
Speaker 4: They stay there because they wanted to remain close and
Speaker 4: you know, the nil money was there from some boosters.
Speaker 4: They they didn't stay at Arizona because of Bret Brennan.
Speaker 4: And that's not a knock on bren Brennan, but it's
Speaker 4: again that's that's a different type of dynamic that we're
Speaker 4: not used to seeing. And you know, their coach left
Speaker 4: and there's a new guy there with new coaches that
Speaker 4: they're not familiar with.
Speaker 3: And these these are big name guys.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, if a Fida was a Heisman Trophy candidate,
Speaker 4: uh to t mac is a is a All American.
Speaker 4: These aren't just guys that are trying to prove themselves.
Speaker 4: They are guys that have already been highly thought of
Speaker 4: or highly tilted. So that that's that exactly what you said.
Speaker 4: That mentality is like are coaches in here. We are
Speaker 4: who we are, and we're going to do things that
Speaker 4: we think we could do to win and win games.
Speaker 4: And we could see that there's some problems because of
Speaker 4: the injuries. I don't mean to make it an excuse,
Speaker 4: but there has been a lot of injuries. There's been
Speaker 4: you know, some people did leave the program when there
Speaker 4: was a transition. A lot of people like on the defense,
Speaker 4: really the defensive line had to replace the whole defensive line, right,
Speaker 4: so it's not the same team as last year and
Speaker 4: the mentality is different.
Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff. Let's go take a break here. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get some breaking news from Henry and then talk
Speaker 2: to teg just Ques for El twor de Tucson and
Speaker 2: and talk more about whatever we decided to talk about.