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<v Speaker 1>Why it's Tucson Sports Station at te see, Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty AP and iHeartRadio Station AFTY. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're

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<v Speaker 2>Javio Morales. Thank you, Henry for coming on in another

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<v Speaker 2>big show on Monday. A lot to talk about football,

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<v Speaker 2>high school football, and tour to Tucson. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>into eclectic stuff or different stuff, this is the day

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<v Speaker 2>to be listening to us. Have your How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well. How about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well as well. A little rush, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>all are. That's not it. You brought me a gift,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's nothing gift I wanted. I'm sorry to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>The gift give her back? Would gift give her backer?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's for Jay. Oh he'd burned this thing. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian McBrayer gave me that cap. I saw a purple cap.

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<v Speaker 4>I grabbed it because you have a Breeders cup cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, purple, welcome to the show. You this is your

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<v Speaker 2>first time on the guest.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, other than one at the other place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah yeah, well the new place. Yes, right, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody. Welcome to Monday. We're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of talk about you a football obviously, back to action

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<v Speaker 2>this week. Maybe talk a little about the basketball program.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in men's basketball, you were at the women's game

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<v Speaker 2>what yesterday was?

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it. They played at UC San Diego. It

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<v Speaker 4>was a road game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell you how so you watched it, you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>about it, yes, okay, so we'll talk about that as well. First,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just kind of maybe get back to did you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the press conference? You're you're typically you're a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have the day off, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, But I've some of Michael Lev's tweets on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you didn't. So what was the theme of

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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 4>The main thing, one of the things I got out

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<v Speaker 4>of it was, and Jason Cheer tweeted too, is that

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<v Speaker 4>he's asking for fans to come out and support them

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<v Speaker 4>because this is a tough time and instead of fans

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<v Speaker 4>like turning away He's asking for them to like be

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<v Speaker 4>there for the players.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the things I got from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask you this, how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be received? We were talking about Arizona fans.

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<v Speaker 4>So you look at some of these other stadiums and

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<v Speaker 4>they're filled no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Utah played BYU but that place was crazy Rock Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>But they sell anyway. Yeah, because they have a smaller capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one thing Arizona has to address about their capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's at a time as he reduced theras considerably.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, let's just let's let this go there

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<v Speaker 2>because we've talked about that. Have you seen the San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Stadium?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice, very nice, right, very comfortable, forty forty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very nice, very new obviously, But does it matter. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say Arizona did this to result to a forty two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>would it matter then? Because if you're gonna get forty

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<v Speaker 2>two anyway, why arrange it to be forty two just

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<v Speaker 2>for aesthetics?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's at the stadium nowadays because people

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<v Speaker 4>have other means of watch a game. Sure, sure, big

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<v Speaker 4>screen TVs and cheaper beer, yeah, cheaper food, and other

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<v Speaker 4>stadiums now or not, they're not. They're not like the

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<v Speaker 4>seventy to eighty thousand stadiums that you see the new ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for the teams. Yeah, not for the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>that would get them, you know, like the big some

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<v Speaker 2>of the big twelve can and he sees Yeah, so okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Arizona has that big upper concourse and they

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<v Speaker 4>really can't tear it, tear that down. But what they

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<v Speaker 4>could do is be creative with it. Maybe sell all

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<v Speaker 4>those seats for like five dollars and have all those

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<v Speaker 4>all have all that money go to nil, and then

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<v Speaker 4>just just try to sell the lower bowl, yeah, get

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<v Speaker 4>that to get it all that comfortable. And then if

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<v Speaker 4>they sell those top seats for only like five bucks

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<v Speaker 4>and they're gonna, I mean, they'll still sell a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of it. It's better be better to have them feeled

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<v Speaker 4>than not field, right, I mean said, I said, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here. You've been thinking about this. It's the head

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<v Speaker 2>idea I have because.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you see Arizona game and you go to games,

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<v Speaker 4>and I see your photos of the stadium. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's an ice or with all those empty seats. But

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<v Speaker 4>if they are all it was like a forty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>guarant you know, season ticket holders and and uh tickets

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<v Speaker 4>sold and and it was built to that, then that's

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<v Speaker 4>not nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So okay, let's like that idea and we think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good idea. Do you think now, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a native, you go to games when whether you like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, do you think that people would actually

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of that five dollars sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Families that normally don't get in. Can?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, it's it's it's something that they

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<v Speaker 4>really have to think about because I know they sold

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<v Speaker 4>out the supposedly sold out the Colorado game, right you

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<v Speaker 4>were there?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that a sellout? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>No? But but also but also have given the circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>of events that they weren't playing well in Colorado? Uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I lie, I did not go to that game because

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<v Speaker 2>that was something that had happened to me. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go. Uh but uh but I saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it was you know how, And someone's already

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<v Speaker 2>called to be and I'm like, I'm negative Nancy for

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. But I'm not. No, I'm truthful, the truthful

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<v Speaker 2>terry in this. Because they arrive late, they leave early.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me, tell me, Steve, you're full of it. If

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<v Speaker 2>I am arrive late, they leave early, and if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not winning, they don't go, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's happened a little bit of McHale now because

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<v Speaker 4>we've heard Tommy Lloyd kind of a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>For every reason. You know, he says, great point because

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<v Speaker 2>we were there Saturday when they played uh and they

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<v Speaker 2>had maybe twelve thousand, a lot of empty and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking exactly what you were thinking or just saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, well, if you're going to talk the game,

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys are big time evans, you better start

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<v Speaker 2>showing up, right remember that first year? Yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>had every right to say that too, right, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>look at all these other venues and again a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the venues are more geared to students, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit smaller than what But mckel's not

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<v Speaker 2>that big.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the thirteen thousand considerably to other arenas. Correct,

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like an average size, not big, not

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<v Speaker 4>too small, And it has sold out for the most part.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Arizona Stadium, especially compared to like how as

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<v Speaker 4>you did theirs, is there's too much. There's too much

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<v Speaker 4>on the on the east side.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to be creative with that now and hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>they're thought about it like something where they can't really

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<v Speaker 4>they can't really tear that down, or maybe they can,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but they can range it where those

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<v Speaker 4>seats are like really low cost and you have that

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<v Speaker 4>money go to NIL because you're not going to sell

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<v Speaker 4>them at anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, do something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great idea because it gives people a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of the part of the program, right

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<v Speaker 2>given to NIL by buying and and who knows, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they'll catch fire again at some point in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the Brennan years, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean things can change year to year, they

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<v Speaker 4>can modify that. But for now, I mean, that's it

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<v Speaker 4>is an eyesore. And I know, I know that those

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<v Speaker 4>tickets are not very expensive now anyway, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure, but you see people sitting up there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure they're taking advantage of the prices, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is it is something to consider because right cycle

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<v Speaker 4>stadium at Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>That seat's about forty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't you think bandwidth for Arizona? Forty five would

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<v Speaker 2>be the max even on good days? Even on good

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<v Speaker 2>days because we've seen it. I've been here a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd only pay attention to football attendance unless I go

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<v Speaker 2>that you're asking a lot for them to go fifty

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<v Speaker 2>or asking a ton, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Has to be huge game, right, what's capacity of fifty

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<v Speaker 4>is a fifty seven? At one point it was that lough.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they lowered it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because of this the bit chair back seats now,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's probably like around fifty to fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's going to be on an exception, right, rather

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<v Speaker 2>than the rule. So forty five. If you got that

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<v Speaker 2>and figured out how to get the forty five consistently,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe win a little, that would be It's okay. Back

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<v Speaker 2>to today, so you get here that today it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night game, late game Houston. Two bad teams. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say bad teams because they're bad teams. You what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think? Sheer and I are giving out numbers, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say what I said and I'll see what he said.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be like an Arizona Bowl crowd,

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<v Speaker 4>like a like a thirty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, exactly that, And that's that's there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl game that's kind of pushing it to thirty thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right, But he said twenty five. I said, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, I think about thirty thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>But again there's variations that they tell you how much

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<v Speaker 4>tickets are sold, right, and then you see that the

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<v Speaker 4>crowd is in this same as what the tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember when you and I covered the Toros back

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighties nineties, blah blah blah, and they would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, and it'd be like twenty five in

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<v Speaker 2>a July. And that's no disrespect. I mean that's how

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<v Speaker 2>many people showed up in.

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<v Speaker 4>A one hundred and two degree weather, right, So you

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<v Speaker 4>know your tickets sold and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hope they do. They're still, you know, working

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<v Speaker 2>their butt off and doing all that. But I understand

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<v Speaker 2>if if you have twenty bucks in your pocket, hub

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<v Speaker 2>or mean, would I go?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It all depends on who the fan is too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's a die hard a fan that usually goes,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to go. If it's a fan that's new

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<v Speaker 4>from out of town or casual fan, they're not going

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<v Speaker 4>And as students should go. I mean, they're the students,

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<v Speaker 2>So you watch that, that's a pack And guess who

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot And I tweeted it out today that

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<v Speaker 4>That's going to be a logistic nightmare, especially Tucson High,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay here in that area. How much is gas and

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they even get a whiff of that?

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<v Speaker 3>But if they will, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if they get it with Hey, that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be done right away.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's more a veterans day, so they're not gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Some referees are kind of like up in the air

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<v Speaker 2>Frustrating preparations because if they go Thursday, you have one

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<v Speaker 2>well now you have to co make arrangements a different way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean Saturday might be more sensible because it

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's kind of set up the day today. So

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever Morales here with me? All sportsdosum dot

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you're you're the roster guy.

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<v Speaker 2>In the in the leadia and then uh, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is valuable stuff? Okay, so that'll be in the

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<v Speaker 2>second hour. We might have time. Henry's gonna let me

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<v Speaker 2>know about the today's press conference. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do that because people we read it last time

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<v Speaker 2>and people say, why why are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's even longer this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we we might do it. We might take a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of clips. We'll see Henry and then figured out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really I heard Kevin over the weekend on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>There's talking a lot about basketball. We'll do both because

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<v Speaker 2>he played basketball and he played football. He had more

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<v Speaker 2>him how much you of a football needs Kelvin Ethan

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<v Speaker 2>because he was the guy, the verbal guy, the captain guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether t mac or Noah are the captains something

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<v Speaker 2>there's disconnected. I've been saying this for weeks now, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're more of like inspirational like examples, they're they're not vocal.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it doesn't seem like they're like vocal like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get people riled up type leaders. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>there by example. Yeah, and that's exactly That's exactly why

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get Kelvin. I said, Kelvin, uh bless

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<v Speaker 2>his heart and and and all that, because they need

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<v Speaker 2>dudes like that they either not to kick asked, but

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<v Speaker 2>to get them on the right track.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dick Tomy said he's the best leader that he

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<v Speaker 4>had they could, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably in the years that he coached Pobby's for

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff that Dick didn't have to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he relied on him to get the

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<v Speaker 4>guys motivated and uh, you know ready mentally. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think Fafida and McMillan lead in their

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<v Speaker 4>own way. And I think McMillan actually the last couple

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<v Speaker 4>of games has actually stepped forward a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>to be a leader than he started out with, even

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<v Speaker 4>admitted his body language was not what it should have

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<v Speaker 4>been that for a few games. So I think the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of games he's kind of showed some kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, some determination, and he's he's talking more,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like to his teammates during the game. So

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<v Speaker 4>they need more of that, they need more of being

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<v Speaker 4>were people watching it, we'll see that they're more like

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Henry, can we go?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to take off now come back in

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the exes and ohs. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box sportsporteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I and the Ball here Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Avo Morales now NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>We have former U of A football player and basketball here,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelvin Ivon. Kelvin, how are you.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>How you got We're doing fine. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been on the show before. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 2>you over the weekend and I'm thinking Kelvin's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with some stuff. I want to talk to him real

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<v Speaker 2>quick about this. So so back. Oh god, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you almost thirty years ago. Sorry to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelvin if sorry, Yeah you could, yeah you can probably

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<v Speaker 2>still play. You were talking about and it sounds brilliant

455
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<v Speaker 2>stuff about kids today. The good thing is you're you're

456
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<v Speaker 2>a former player both basketball football and a former coach.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna get a lot of perspectives from you.

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<v Speaker 2>You were talking about kids today or maybe even back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Show up to Arizona or places like Arizona. One want

460
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<v Speaker 2>to play a lot right away because they all have

461
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<v Speaker 2>visions of the NFL or NBA and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>You still, it's probably worse now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, now

464
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<v Speaker 13>you got nil, which helps out a lot now with

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of these guys. I mean, they put a

466
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<v Speaker 13>little change in their pocket. But yeah, man, I mean

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<v Speaker 13>when you you came to school, man, you was just

468
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<v Speaker 13>looking having that dream man of you know, becoming rich

469
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<v Speaker 13>and famous one day. I mean, that's that's just the dream.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you said, and you said, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't getting time, you're wondering what the hell like you

472
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<v Speaker 2>you had? You had damon, you had some pretty good

473
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<v Speaker 2>guys ahead of you, and you're thinking, what am I

474
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<v Speaker 2>gonna get mine?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>Man, you know you you you plan on playing with

477
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<v Speaker 13>those guys when you get recruited. You don't see yourself

478
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<v Speaker 13>as you know, being the odd guy out, possibly having

479
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<v Speaker 13>a red shirt or something like that. I mean, I

480
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<v Speaker 13>think I was mentioning that a lot as a kid,

481
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<v Speaker 13>you don't staying when a coach want to show you

482
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<v Speaker 13>he actually liked you a little bit. You know, he

483
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<v Speaker 13>wants he given you an extra year of school and

484
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<v Speaker 13>where you can get your master's degree or something like that,

485
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<v Speaker 13>and it helps with your development. But as a kid,

486
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<v Speaker 13>a lot of times you look at it's like I'm

487
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<v Speaker 13>a failure or I'm not good enough to be here,

488
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<v Speaker 13>so I need to go somewhere where I can play.

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<v Speaker 2>No question. And that's what struck me with you, with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the way the things are today, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, immediate satisfaction. So when did you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of realize that when you were like thirty, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, because at the time you're still probably

494
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<v Speaker 2>young thinking and you're not alone. It's this is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of.

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<v Speaker 13>Kids, well, I mean definitely ass as you get older

497
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<v Speaker 13>or whatever. I didn't have a choice but to stay

498
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<v Speaker 13>because I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to leave out

499
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<v Speaker 13>of the first semester after the first of us that

500
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<v Speaker 13>I call my grand mom. I say, hey, you know

501
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<v Speaker 13>TCU sounds great right now, right right right, And you know,

502
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<v Speaker 13>right next to being home, and a lot of it

503
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<v Speaker 13>was the distance away from home, you know, being from

504
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<v Speaker 13>I didn't realize how much it costs to fly back,

505
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<v Speaker 13>how much it cost to fly back back in the day,

506
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<v Speaker 13>you know, you get the free ticket to fly out

507
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<v Speaker 13>here and everything, and so you don't realize how much

508
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<v Speaker 13>it's gonna cost your family to come see you at games.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, no question, no question, Yeah, Calvin Javier, it's

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<v Speaker 4>you know you also put on this now with with

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<v Speaker 4>the transfer portal, coaches of other schools probably getting a

512
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<v Speaker 4>hold of some guys and say hey, you can come

513
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<v Speaker 4>here and play right away or as before they couldn't

514
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<v Speaker 4>do that, And I think that's that's caused a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of guys getting into the portal and then moving somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, if that was if this was going

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<v Speaker 4>on when you were playing, how many how many guys

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<v Speaker 4>you think would have left h and moved on from

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<v Speaker 4>you can remember.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, uh, well it was going on and you just

521
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<v Speaker 13>had to sit out a year, right. I had plenty

522
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<v Speaker 13>of people contact me, trust me saying you're gonna sit

523
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<v Speaker 13>on the bench over there. And you know, coach are

524
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<v Speaker 13>telling you because they prepare you for it when they're

525
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<v Speaker 13>recruiting you, right, so when they recruit and they be like, hey,

526
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<v Speaker 13>if things don't go right, you know you can always

527
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<v Speaker 13>come home if things don't go right. You know you'd

528
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<v Speaker 13>be a better fit over here at Way far Ist

529
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<v Speaker 13>so at you know, Texas, TCU or Baylor, and you know,

530
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<v Speaker 13>you think about it, you start looking at their rosters

531
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<v Speaker 13>and you started thinking to yourself, like, man, I could

532
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<v Speaker 13>go play over that right now. So, uh, it's just

533
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<v Speaker 13>it's just one of those things though, with with with

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<v Speaker 13>with now, with the with the portal being there, it's

535
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<v Speaker 13>just the thing where you got to re recruit your

536
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<v Speaker 13>guys every year. You have to. You have to give

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<v Speaker 13>them love and a little bit more love than they

538
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<v Speaker 13>used to have to give us back in the day.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, one of the biggest jobs for the head

540
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<v Speaker 13>coach now is making sure all the guys are good.

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<v Speaker 13>You want to stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>So what kept you here?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, my grandmother, my grandmother, my grandmother told me when

544
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<v Speaker 13>I was a kid, I mean I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 13>I mean I was was that my first, Grandma, I

546
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<v Speaker 13>wanted to go, I wanted to transfer, and she told me, Kevin,

547
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<v Speaker 13>you never could quit at anything you've ever done, So

548
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<v Speaker 13>it was that challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me say, let me say. That's another reason

550
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get you on the phone is is

551
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<v Speaker 2>I think the team this year football team specifically needs

552
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<v Speaker 2>a kill any fund they probably need too. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want because let me say, and I'll ask you

554
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<v Speaker 2>a different question with tell me earlier, but I think

555
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<v Speaker 2>they need someone, you know, the leader guy that you were.

556
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<v Speaker 2>And obviously they tell me love love that part of

557
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<v Speaker 2>you too, but they need someone to say, come on, dudes,

558
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<v Speaker 2>and then how you would do it, let's get your

559
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<v Speaker 2>crap together.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, you know, I remember being in this situation. We

561
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<v Speaker 13>were in a situation where we were three and five.

562
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<v Speaker 13>I remember, and you know, things were looking awry, and

563
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<v Speaker 13>it was one time where I did step up in

564
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<v Speaker 13>the leadership at the time, and and all the was

565
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<v Speaker 13>was as a player saying, first of all, you have

566
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<v Speaker 13>to have the respect of the team of coming every day,

567
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<v Speaker 13>working hard, doing all the little things that expected of

568
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<v Speaker 13>the team. Of what a or what a winner looks like.

569
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<v Speaker 13>That's the first thing your actions have to speak loud

570
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<v Speaker 13>in your words. So they have to respect you before

571
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<v Speaker 13>you can even speak a word to them, and they

572
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<v Speaker 13>and then believe in you at all. But but but secondly,

573
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<v Speaker 13>when you do speak to them, you have to speak

574
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<v Speaker 13>to reality and say, hey, look, guys, these coaches. One

575
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<v Speaker 13>of the things I would say, these coaches get the

576
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<v Speaker 13>coach the rest of their life, that this is our

577
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<v Speaker 13>only chance to play.

578
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<v Speaker 6>Right.

579
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<v Speaker 13>Hey, let's let's let's get over all the accolades and

580
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<v Speaker 13>all the paths on the back and all the money

581
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 13>that they're paying us and everything, and let's remember that

582
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<v Speaker 13>we're here to play football, and we're here to figure

583
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<v Speaker 13>out a way to put our name in history so

584
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<v Speaker 13>we'll be remembered and not just be an afterthought.

585
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<v Speaker 2>You sound so sensible now, I'm sure you gave him

586
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<v Speaker 2>a piece of their mind too. I mean nice because

587
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<v Speaker 2>it have to be on the radio.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh no, I mean, I mean, I mean it's not

589
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<v Speaker 13>as what a lot of people think. I mean, we've

590
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<v Speaker 13>been in situation, were in a situation where I did

591
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<v Speaker 13>get a little greasy. But in a situation like this,

592
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<v Speaker 13>that's what you just have to remember. You have to

593
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<v Speaker 13>remind these guys a lot as a teammate man that Hey,

594
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<v Speaker 13>you know a lot of you guys got a lot

595
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<v Speaker 13>of great dreams and everything, but some of us really

596
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<v Speaker 13>love what we're doing. You know, follow us and and

597
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 13>it's something that simple. I mean. And then you got

598
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<v Speaker 13>to get out on the field and up. I mean,

599
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 13>you got to get some fourth and ones, you got

600
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<v Speaker 13>to get some short yardist touchdowns and everything like that.

601
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<v Speaker 13>In tough situations where there's two guys right there in

602
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<v Speaker 13>front of you and you got to jump over one

603
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 13>and run over the other one, you have to. You

604
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 13>got to figure out stuff. Your players make plays, and

605
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<v Speaker 13>people follow people that made plays.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember, I was, and I was just looking

607
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<v Speaker 4>it up to in nineteen ninety eight, where you guys

608
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<v Speaker 4>had a twelve and one season.

609
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<v Speaker 3>The year before that, you guys had some tough losses.

610
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<v Speaker 4>He lost by thirty at Washington fifty eight to twenty eight,

611
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<v Speaker 4>something like that. So it's kind of similar where you

612
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<v Speaker 4>guys were going through some problems there in ninety seven.

613
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<v Speaker 4>So what do you what do you remember about transitioning

614
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<v Speaker 4>from that where you guys had those kind of problems

615
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<v Speaker 4>to having a twelve and one season.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the what was the key to that. I

617
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<v Speaker 3>think it was that year.

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<v Speaker 13>Actually you're coming from the year before we were five

619
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<v Speaker 13>and six. Uh So going into that ninety seven season,

620
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<v Speaker 13>you were excited. Everybody stayed and worked out, We were

621
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<v Speaker 13>excited about just getting.

622
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<v Speaker 3>To a bowl game.

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<v Speaker 13>We all were embarrassed about being at home in ninety six.

624
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<v Speaker 13>I got talked about a couple of times, you know,

625
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 13>hanging out a couple of boys that were back home

626
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 13>playing in the Common Bowl. Was like you at home

627
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 13>doing ball time, you know. And I vowed to never

628
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 13>be at home again doing both time. So that had

629
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<v Speaker 13>a lot to do with it. But but yeah, you

630
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<v Speaker 13>put that time, and you put that extra work in

631
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<v Speaker 13>the weight room, so when you end up three and five,

632
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<v Speaker 13>it's just it just now it's like, forget who the

633
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<v Speaker 13>coaches made captains, forget who who everybody think of the leaders.

634
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<v Speaker 13>Hey we're going this way now, guys, and hey, the

635
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<v Speaker 13>people not want to call out efforts and want to

636
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 13>want to keep blaming on the coach. And what I

637
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 13>hate more than anything is when they blame the coaches

638
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 13>and the coaches plays and all that. You know, I believe,

639
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 13>you know, great athletes, great talent. I'll do any playbooking

640
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 13>in the world. Okay, I don't care what your playbook

641
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 13>you have. If you got some real players that love

642
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 13>the game, they're going to figure out a way to

643
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 13>make things work. And that's that's what I used to

644
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 13>come to the guys with some some just like that.

645
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 13>Come on, now, I don't care what they're calling. Let's

646
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 13>figure out a way to make this work. Our name

647
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 13>is on this.

648
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you. Do you what's your observation.

649
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Is it a little bit different than mine where they

650
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 2>need some you know, maybe kicking the butt to get

651
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>them going.

652
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 13>You know, I don't necessarily think they needed a kick

653
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 13>in the butt. I think, you know, one of the

654
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 13>toughest thing I've said, I think I've said this the

655
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 13>whole time is you have to have people behind you

656
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 13>that is pushing you for playing time. OJ Keith had,

657
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 13>OJ Trunk had me, and I had you know who

658
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 13>Paul shields or same thing at the tight end position

659
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 13>or the offensive line. You go back and look at

660
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 13>that team on both sides of the ball first, and

661
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 13>I just feel like with it being a new coach,

662
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 13>they didn't get a chance to make that they had

663
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 13>when Jed Glaura had Noah behind him, right, So he

664
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 13>knew if something happened, I got this young guy behind

665
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 13>me that might not let it go. So I feel

666
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Speaker 13>a lot of it has to do with the new

667
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 13>with the coaching change, uh, and being just with the

668
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 13>players themselves with the season. I just think some unfortunate

669
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 13>injuries and everything, and having that target on your back

670
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:07.599
<v Speaker 13>of being one of the top teams in the country

671
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 13>and and you hadn't quite played a game. I think

672
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 13>they probably was was was feeling feeling themselves too much

673
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 13>and didn't realize the dog fight that they were in for.

674
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I couldn't sense that too.

675
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

676
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's a unique situation they had coming

677
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>into this because they had it was a player It

678
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>seemed like it was a player led team rather than

679
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 4>a coach led team because of all the guys, the

680
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 4>key guys that came back. Not a lot of guys,

681
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 4>but key guys came back. So here's Bren Brannan coming in,

682
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 4>never coached at this level, He's coaches sat as a

683
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 4>state and you have these these big names that were

684
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 4>getting national attention. So do you think he might have

685
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of backed away from them to a degree to

686
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 4>not not supersede what they're what they meant to this team.

687
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 4>And do you think that kind of backfired on him

688
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 4>or how would did you have handled that? If you're

689
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>a brandan coming into that situation, it's really unique. Not

690
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 4>a lot of coaches have.

691
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 3>To deal with that.

692
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

693
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 13>Man, that was a tough one right there. I felt

694
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 13>for him. I've said this, Man, I felt for him

695
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 13>when I when when they when the guys came out

696
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 13>on the court and announced that they were coming back

697
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 13>and they were accepting him as their coach. Like wait

698
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 13>a minute. I was like, I was like, oh, man, okay,

699
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 13>I was worried about that a little bit. I mean,

700
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 13>because you know, when you have star players like that,

701
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 13>you're a new coach coming in, you don't want to

702
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 13>really rough with no feathers. I mean, you respect what

703
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 13>they've done, you respect their resume, so you kind of

704
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 13>respect them and give them a chance to get going.

705
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 13>And we saw that in the NAU game where I

706
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 13>mean he got ten balls. If I was being the coach,

707
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 13>I mean some kind of way, I would have stopped

708
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 13>at six and started going to other people. So so

709
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 13>I feel like so the defenses could have had the

710
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 13>adjusted him but hey, I'm on the chair on the

711
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 13>couch talking about that. These guys got the job, so

712
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 13>they they're they're figuring that out. But I just felt

713
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.559
<v Speaker 13>like that you don't have a now and t Mac

714
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 13>and those guys having so much you know, leadership over

715
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 13>the Polynesian guys on the team whatever. It just felt

716
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 13>like that it was their team and the coaches kind

717
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 13>of set back and let it happen. Now, I do

718
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 13>respect that a lot of time, because I do hate

719
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 13>the coaches that come in We're gonna do it my way,

720
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 13>and you guys, I understand whatever happened then, but this

721
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 13>is what we're doing. I kind of respect the coaches

722
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 13>that give gods a chance, especially the guys that came

723
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 13>back to see if they got it and see how

724
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 13>things are going. So I do respect that. And that's

725
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 13>what Tommy Lloyd did. Remember Tommy Lloyd came he started

726
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 13>all the guys that was on the previous team.

727
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

728
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 13>I thought that was smart of him because he made

729
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 13>them responsible for the team. And I just feel like

730
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 13>just with these guys with the football team this year,

731
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.559
<v Speaker 13>things didn't go as quite as good because of again

732
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 13>some of the injuries and the guys that we lost.

733
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 13>I think people underestimated that same thing from the ninety

734
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.079
<v Speaker 13>eight team, where I feel like that the guys that

735
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 13>we lost in that team and us coming in rank

736
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 13>so high was really not realistic like that because the

737
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 13>losses that we had were huge.

738
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, let's switch to football real quick. Thanks for

739
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that information. With the football team basketball, you're one of

740
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>the voices pregame post game. What do you What do

741
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>you like so far? What do you don't like so far?

742
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>But I think he's probably more like than anything.

743
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 6>Man.

744
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 13>I like that their deep life is It seemed like

745
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 13>they the legitimate have nine to ten guys that could

746
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 13>get a team some real playing time. So I think that,

747
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 13>you know, coach is gonna have to figure out how

748
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.880
<v Speaker 13>to keep all those guys happy. So I'm happy that

749
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 13>he have so many good guys. I just think it's

750
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 13>gonna be tough figuring out how to get the comrade

751
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 13>Martinez is and the you know, minutes in these these

752
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 13>big games, and how he's gonna figure out the big

753
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 13>man rotation with four legit guys that could play there.

754
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 13>So man excited for the talent on the team. Just

755
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 13>it's such being a coach trying to figure out how

756
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 13>to get these guys significant and playing time.

757
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me ask you this, Okay, now, I

758
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 2>want to put your coach your coach hat on now,

759
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>so deep down I know this probably from you coming

760
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that it's not your job to make the kids happy.

761
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go after the best guys to play.

762
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, no, yeah, i'mna play the best guys, man, And

763
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 13>it usually comes down to playing those guys thirty minutes

764
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 13>a game. So it's just gonna be some minie square,

765
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 13>you know, squeezed out for some guys.

766
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

767
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 13>You know, I think it's been cool with Coach kind

768
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 13>of playing everybody earlier in the year. And I remember

769
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 13>Coach Osi used to didn't do that a lot, Like

770
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 13>he would make sure you didn't get a lot of

771
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 13>minutes because he wants you thinking that you were, you know,

772
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 13>playing so well that you deserve to play more minutes,

773
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.880
<v Speaker 13>right right, right, That's the way I felt what he

774
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 13>was doing. But you know, he's giving these guys just

775
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 13>enough time. Like you see Carter Bryant man, I mean

776
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 13>I thought he would be another guy that would be uh,

777
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 13>you know, short some minutes coming into the into the season.

778
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 13>When these tough games come up. But you know, he

779
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 13>gave him enough minutes the other night to audition for

780
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 13>a more in it. So it's just gonna be tough

781
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 13>figuring out how to get those guys on the court

782
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 13>because that that that top seven eight is pretty strong.

783
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Man.

784
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 13>I think the backup point guard position is going to

785
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 13>be interesting to see how kJ lewis, who looks like

786
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 13>he's getting, you know, brought up in that role.

787
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

788
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 13>There also seems like he's gonna be a guy with

789
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 13>the second unit that possibly could be a point guard.

790
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 13>And I'm sure they're gonna use Kate Love at that

791
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 13>as well. So it's gonna be interesting to see how

792
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 13>that all shapes out.

793
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:28.360
<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

794
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know the fact that you know Seohn Miller

795
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>is a good coach, but the motto when he was

796
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 4>coaching was a player's program. It was more like a

797
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 4>player's program directed by me. Basically, I don't want him down.

798
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't want a bad mouth. This is this is

799
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 4>more of a players This is more of a ployer

800
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 4>players program under Tommy Lloydber He's letting them breathe and

801
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>letting them play to their strengths. And uh, you could

802
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 4>tell just by the and you probably experienced this when

803
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 4>when you played with for Loot is just the the uh,

804
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 4>the camaraderie and the business like manner that they do

805
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.760
<v Speaker 4>it and the fun they're having. That's that's winning basketball.

806
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 4>Now where you feel restricted or you're afraid they're gonna

807
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 4>be sent to the bench if he missed a shot

808
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 4>or make a turnover. I think he lets them play

809
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 4>and he's relying a lot on something like Caleb loved

810
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 4>to be a leader, and Caleb has kind of embraced that.

811
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I think he's he's got the right kind of mindset.

812
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 4>He's he's he's not not you know, overwhelming neither with

813
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 4>these guys.

814
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 3>He's he's uh.

815
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 4>From what I can tell from watching on TV. I'm

816
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 4>not at the games, but he seems like he's more

817
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 4>of like a facilitator and more of a guy that

818
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 4>wants everybody to contribute and not him take over the game,

819
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 4>where maybe that happened a little bit too much last year.

820
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Do you feel that, yeah, well, no.

821
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 13>Man, Caleb is just maturing. He's a guy that's in

822
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 13>his field year and he has the two thousand points

823
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 13>and he's done all almost everything except actually win a

824
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 13>National Championship Player of the Year last time in the

825
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 13>PAC twelve. I think it was easy for coach Lloyd

826
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.800
<v Speaker 13>to talk to him and say, hey, look, man, you

827
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 13>know the only reason for you to be back here

828
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 13>is the opportunity to win a national championship and the

829
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 13>better your stock to play in the NBA. That's the

830
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 13>only reason you want. Every other ward you can think of.

831
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 13>So the way to get there, the NBA people told

832
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 13>him is to understand that he's gonna have to be

833
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 13>a catch and shoot guy. He's not gonna be able

834
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 13>to be a guy that put the ball on the

835
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 13>floor ten times and make a million moves and shoot

836
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 13>thirty foot threes. You have to do it on the

837
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 13>catch and shoot. So that's one thing you're noticing he's

838
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 13>doing is three point attempts are off catch and shoot.

839
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 13>The other thing that's that's beautiful, he's moving the ball

840
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 13>around because he's understanding that to play with NBA players,

841
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 13>you're gonna be playing with superstars that demand that basketball

842
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 13>and you have to get off of it. You have

843
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 13>zero point five seconds to get off that ball or

844
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 13>it's a hanger inad he's gonna blow up in your

845
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 13>hands and something bad is gonna happen. So I think

846
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 13>that he's trying to, you know, use that idea as

847
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 13>far as the way to play ball with this team,

848
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<v Speaker 13>because I think that that's gonna be his best opportunity

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<v Speaker 13>to play in the pros is to be a better defender,

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<v Speaker 13>which he has a great chance to do with with

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<v Speaker 13>Bradley next to him in kJ Lewis, because with those

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<v Speaker 13>two guys he gets to play against with he gets

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<v Speaker 13>to play the third best offensive player because kJ Lewis

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<v Speaker 13>gets the best guy and Jay and Bradley gets the

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<v Speaker 13>second best offensive player. So now Love becomes a better

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<v Speaker 13>defender almost by default because he gets to go against

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<v Speaker 13>the third guy. Right, So he has opportunities, man, to

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<v Speaker 13>show growth with this team because of the talent that

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<v Speaker 13>you know coach Lord as a symbol.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin, I was good talking to you. This goes by

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<v Speaker 2>real fast, and guess we'll have to get get you

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<v Speaker 2>back on another time. Talk more about you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>updates and stuff.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh man, I appreciate you guys, Man brad out, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>To take care of Kevin. Yes, that's Kevin from twelve

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<v Speaker 2>ninety does a great job. The former you of a

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<v Speaker 2>guy and he's I think he's been a little nice,

868
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, because he likes the team obviously. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you believe what I'm saying with the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have to something.

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<v Speaker 3>With the Yeah, with amalteam.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's feel like there has to be something

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<v Speaker 4>from the first game, yes, when it hasn't maticulated, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Roth the year. I want you to ask

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<v Speaker 2>me to tell me the question you asked him again

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<v Speaker 2>because I was because I think you're party onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break here, Henry, thanks for an Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ramiro on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to On the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Please have your morales

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<v Speaker 2>from ollsports tuson dot com. And we've got Henry working

961
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<v Speaker 2>the board. Uh so, I'm the handicapped in this room.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so. So thanks Kevin for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's good stuff. Let me ask you

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<v Speaker 2>how you've covered a lot of teams through the years.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we covered a pretty good one and and

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<v Speaker 2>loot what what have you? What have you learned about

967
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>coaches in your time covering coaches?

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00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 13>What?

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<v Speaker 4>And I listened to your show quite a bit, so

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard you say it the coach. The players have

972
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 4>to you know, know that the coach runs the show

973
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 4>and they have to be accountable, right And I know

974
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<v Speaker 4>that you've mentioned before that the players have to realize

975
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 4>that they have to do the job or else, you know,

976
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 4>somebody else will step in, or that they'll they'll have

977
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>to perform or there will be changes. But uh, there

978
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 4>has to be some accountability there. The coach has to

979
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<v Speaker 4>show them that, you know, the buck stops here type

980
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 4>of personality, not not where they they're you know, too

981
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 4>demanding and stuff like that.

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00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Well that's rowbeating.

983
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 4>But they have to the players have to look at

984
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 4>the coach as being the guy or they or the woman,

985
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, if they have to look at that and

986
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.719
<v Speaker 4>and the and the coach has to portray that image

987
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 4>that hey, I'm all things go through me, and how

988
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 4>you play depends on how I lead you guys, and

989
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 4>you have to perform accordingly. If they don't feel any

990
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of accountability or if they don't feel like they're gonna,

991
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, that there's anything that's gonna happen to them,

992
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 4>sure they're gonna They're gonna continue on their bad tendencies.

993
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 4>We see a lot of penalties in this team. We

994
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 4>see a lot of mistakes and stuff like that. You know,

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00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not saying that this is a poorly

996
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<v Speaker 4>coach team. I'm just it just feels like we're who's

997
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>who's directing the show? And why why aren't the players

998
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 4>understanding that brand.

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00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Is the guy? Yeah, I don't. I don't get that

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<v Speaker 3>feeling all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of know where you're going with this because

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it as you said, I think coaching matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always thought that, having done governed Loop for a

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00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>long time and dictomy and things like that. There were

1006
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<v Speaker 2>days when he may have lost control of time or two,

1007
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>but he put his foot down and that was fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Chris Rogers at a time. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of other players. But let me say so you covered

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<v Speaker 2>high schools as well. Who don't give me the who

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<v Speaker 2>give me the qualities of a good high school coach?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it translates to any coach.

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<v Speaker 4>The quality of a good high school coach because you're

1014
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<v Speaker 4>dealing with young guys is girls, is that those players

1015
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 4>would do anything for that coach because they see what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a person he or she is, how they

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00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 4>communicate with them, how they stress development, character, how they

1018
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<v Speaker 4>you know, they show a hard side and the soft side.

1019
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<v Speaker 4>That those are the best coaches. And that's why players,

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<v Speaker 4>especially young ones will warm up to a coach that

1021
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<v Speaker 4>will get on them, like really get on them if

1022
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 4>they mess up in practice or in the game or

1023
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<v Speaker 4>something like that, but at the end, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>talk to them and you know, encourage them. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>the type of players, you know, coaches that players really

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<v Speaker 4>warm up to you. And you could see that a

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<v Speaker 4>lot in some of these high school football coaches that

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<v Speaker 4>we have so many good ones in the southern Arizona,

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Nugent down down the line, there's there's so many

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<v Speaker 4>good ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Neville f at Tucson High. He's really coming on.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a young guy, but he's he's he's demanding and

1033
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<v Speaker 4>he always talks and he also talks to players.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to be that.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to be both sides. You can't be too

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<v Speaker 4>passive and he can't be too aggressive. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not there every day, I'm not in

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00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.079
<v Speaker 4>the i'm not in the meetings, I'm not in the locker.

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<v Speaker 3>Room with Arizona.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like there needs to be some more

1041
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<v Speaker 4>of like that kind of you know, personality from the

1042
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<v Speaker 4>coaching staff. And I think Dwayne and Keen is that way.

1043
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<v Speaker 4>That Dwayna Keen is a perfect example of something that

1044
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 4>would be a good coach in that manner. But that's

1045
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<v Speaker 4>his personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, yeah, no question, No, I agree with the demanding.

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<v Speaker 14>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of the things that I've heard through

1049
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<v Speaker 2>the years. You got to know when to h to

1050
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>kick him in the butt, not figuratively, but you know, yeah,

1051
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>emotionally in otherwise, and know when to give him a hug.

1052
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Just kind of that fine line of both. And today

1053
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you know this, it's almost you have to treat them

1054
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>with kid gloves but not. And that's the fine line, right.

1055
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<v Speaker 4>We talked a little about, you know, Brent Brandan coming

1056
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 4>in in a unique situation where the the star guys

1057
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 4>came back and and a lot you know, I think

1058
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 4>people in Tucson, you know, really wanted these guys to

1059
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 4>do well because of that, because they came back and

1060
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 4>they put them on a pedestal, and I think the

1061
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 4>coaches worth grateful that they came back. And I think

1062
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 4>that kind of, you know, in a strange way, it

1063
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of it kind of made for a different type

1064
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 4>of dynamic that we usually don't see in in uh,

1065
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, in sports where where the players are put

1066
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 4>on a higher level to to uh, you know, a

1067
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 4>respect level including the coaches, whereas when we were talking

1068
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 4>about the coaches should come in and say, you know,

1069
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 4>we respect your decision.

1070
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 3>To come back.

1071
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Where we're you know, excited about that. We're going to

1072
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 4>work together, you know, we're the coaches were we've we're

1073
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 4>going to have the we're we're going to set the agenda,

1074
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 4>and we're going to work together like that. It's nobody's team,

1075
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 4>it's we're We're a coaching staff that has to run

1076
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 4>this program. That that had that had to be expressed

1077
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 4>from the beginning. And I don't you know, and I

1078
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 4>know I'm not the only one who thinks that that

1079
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>was expressed, uh, you know, to to degree. And you

1080
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 4>know a lot of people complain about no, if if

1081
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 4>you had and everything taken hot out. He's he's the

1082
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 4>identifial leader, identifiable leader of Arizona, and he does so much,

1083
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 4>so many things, and he and he plays through so

1084
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 4>many difficult situations. He gets sacked, he has to run

1085
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 4>for his life a lot, and he's out there, you.

1086
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Know, doing what he has to do. And a lot

1087
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>of people respect that. And he has struggled.

1088
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 4>But the offensive line has had some injuries, so it's

1089
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 4>not the same offensive line that was last year by

1090
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 4>any any stretch. But you know, like Calvin said, there's

1091
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 4>no off a FIA to have anybody behind him that's

1092
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 4>going to push him another notch. We don't know really

1093
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 4>who the backup quarterback is going to be when they

1094
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 4>comes in. Well, if he has to go him out right,

1095
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 4>we don't know that. We know there's we know some

1096
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 4>of their names. We don't know who's going to be

1097
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 4>the guy that would have to come in if the

1098
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 4>FIA got hurt or if he has to get pulled

1099
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason. You know, that's different too than what

1100
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 4>we've experienced in in past teams. So accountabilit accountability, feeling

1101
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 4>that that urged sense of urgency playing to the best

1102
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 4>of your ability because you have to play for the

1103
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 4>coach and the coaching staff.

1104
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Do we fill that a lot with this team? I don't.

1105
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we do not enough anyway.

1106
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a big, big question mark with

1107
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Arizona is how how is that coach the player interaction.

1108
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 4>What are the demands from the coaches, what's the accountability

1109
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 4>of the players.

1110
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree with you. We're what eight games

1111
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 2>in nine games in. I think it's not fixable with

1112
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>that right theory, right now because you've already you know,

1113
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 2>you've already gone through nine weeks or ten weeks of this.

1114
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a renew next year and kind of

1115
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>establish establish what you tried or needed to establish. And

1116
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be tough because you have a lot of

1117
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the same characters if they come back on this year's team.

1118
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>How do you It's kind of like you're a teacher, uh,

1119
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and you were a substitute teacher. I'm sure you're teaching.

1120
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You're being the main teacher is a lot different than

1121
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>your substitute teacher because the kids treat you differently, and

1122
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.280
<v Speaker 2>if you're a sub they don't give a crap about you.

1123
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>You're just there. You're you're the substitute teacher. Well, you know,

1124
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you're right that.

1125
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 4>The mentality part of it is that you can see

1126
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 4>that a little bit because they're they were recruited there

1127
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 4>by a different coach. They there, they stayed there basically too,

1128
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, to as a group, not because of Bret Brennan.

1129
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 4>They stay there because they wanted to remain close and

1130
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, the nil money was there from some boosters.

1131
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 4>They they didn't stay at Arizona because of Bret Brennan.

1132
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 4>And that's not a knock on bren Brennan, but it's

1133
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 4>again that's that's a different type of dynamic that we're

1134
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 4>not used to seeing. And you know, their coach left

1135
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.320
<v Speaker 4>and there's a new guy there with new coaches that

1136
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 4>they're not familiar with.

1137
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 3>And these these are big name guys.

1138
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, no, if a Fida was a Heisman Trophy candidate,

1139
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 4>uh to t mac is a is a All American.

1140
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 4>These aren't just guys that are trying to prove themselves.

1141
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 4>They are guys that have already been highly thought of

1142
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 4>or highly tilted. So that that's that exactly what you said.

1143
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 4>That mentality is like are coaches in here. We are

1144
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 4>who we are, and we're going to do things that

1145
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 4>we think we could do to win and win games.

1146
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 4>And we could see that there's some problems because of

1147
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 4>the injuries. I don't mean to make it an excuse,

1148
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 4>but there has been a lot of injuries. There's been

1149
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, some people did leave the program when there

1150
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 4>was a transition. A lot of people like on the defense,

1151
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 4>really the defensive line had to replace the whole defensive line, right,

1152
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.679
<v Speaker 4>so it's not the same team as last year and

1153
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 4>the mentality is different.

1154
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good stuff. Let's go take a break here. We're

1155
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna get some breaking news from Henry and then talk

1156
00:52:57.199 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to teg just Ques for El twor de Tucson and

1157
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 2>and talk more about whatever we decided to talk about.
