WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:01.439 On a Friday. 2 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:04.559 It's Friday afternoon, and this is excuse me, this is 3 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:05.960 what we're gonna do on a Friday. 4 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:06.480 Listen. 5 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.839 You can't you can't put. 6 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:08.080 This on me. 7 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:08.599 Nice. 8 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:10.720 It would be one thing if it was like Tuesday, 9 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.960 but it's Friday. We only have ninety minutes left in 10 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:15.439 the show, and you're playing pit Bull. 11 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.480 I know, just getting the getting the energy for the weekend, 12 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:21.800 you know, up to park. All right, let's put the 13 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:22.399 weekend song. 14 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.320 Let's bring in our resident pit Bull fan on a Friday, Zach, 15 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:26.199 what do you what are you doing? 16 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.280 We're trying to get the weekend started out the right way. 17 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:33.240 One. I didn't request that this time, okay. Two, I 18 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:35.520 don't know if you saw, but Tom Haberstrow was pit 19 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.479 Bull for Halloween and crushed it nice. Three. I know, 20 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.719 I know you are fighting an urge to tap your 21 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:44.679 foot while that's going. 22 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:46.079 The head was bobbing a little bit. 23 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:49.719 Yeah, of course it is. It's pit Bull, mister, of course. 24 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.920 And then number four, I mean that's just a good song, Like, 25 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:54.679 how could you not want that right before the weekend? 26 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:55.479 That gets me ready? 27 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.240 You gonna go ahead and disagree on number four, but nonetheless, 28 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:01.640 thanks for the time. Well, okay, hey, what was your Halloween? 29 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:06.560 The zach Arper Halloween experienced? There has to be something, yes, oh. 30 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:09.280 Man, it was. It was crazy. Man. I watched some 31 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:13.200 bad basketball and then I watched some better basketball, wrote 32 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:18.159 a newsletter. You know, PopEd a gummy asleep by eleven. 33 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:19.200 You didn't go out? 34 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.359 Huh No, man, I'm Halloween. No. 35 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:24.599 No, what about like last weekend? You strike me as 36 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:25.920 a guy that likes to dress up? 37 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:26.480 Am I wrong? 38 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.560 I like it if it is convenient, Okay, I like 39 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.680 it if it is easy, it's presented for me and easy. 40 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:35.920 I will I will dress I'll really dress up almost 41 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.599 as anything like. I don't mind that. It's nothing about that. 42 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:39.840 It's I don't want to have to go through a 43 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.439 lot of efforts. So no, the previous weekend, you know, 44 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.159 went out and everything, but not not a Halloween. Not 45 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:46.560 a Halloween flow for me. Yeah. 46 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:48.359 You know that you're getting old when you just use 47 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:50.000 what you already have in the house. I think I 48 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.040 was Iceman from Top Gun seven straight years. 49 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:54.959 I didn't care. Yeah, it's easy, easy costume. 50 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.200 Yeah, easy costume. And it's really like, you just want 51 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:00.359 to have fun. You want it to be as pameless 52 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.599 as possible and then you just you know, you move on. 53 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:03.680 You're ready for thanks to me. 54 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.120 Indeed, so you said you watched some good basketball and 55 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:07.200 some bad basketball. 56 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:08.960 I know you watched the Jazz and the Spurs. 57 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.000 What what what category does that fall under? 58 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.639 It was not good? You know, Wendy was was historically interesting. 59 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.240 But I don't even what's crazy about him last night 60 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:21.719 is I don't want to say, like, oh, yeah, he 61 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:23.520 had a bad game that had those numbers. He didn't, 62 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.280 but he didn't seem like he had a great game, right, 63 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.039 Like That's the one little concern I have for him 64 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.759 going into this or I guess after you know, a 65 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.439 week and a half of the season, is he looks 66 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.879 just a little slow. He looks just a little I 67 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.360 don't know if out of shape is the right let 68 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.159 worn down. I don't know what it is. But he 69 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:43.840 doesn't seem to be moving all that quickly as he 70 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.520 was last season. So that's like, really my only poor 71 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.520 note about him. But yeah, that game last night was 72 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.199 that was rough. I mean, all these Jazz games have 73 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:53.960 been rough so far. 74 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.439 Well, and it appears I don't know if you have 75 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.240 made contact with the front office. 76 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:00.400 But it appears they. 77 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.319 Finally read the memo we sent them two years ago 78 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.199 when we made them aware of Victor women Yama's existence. 79 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.000 But they decided to go be fine and win thirty 80 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:13.039 thirty five games, and then last year's same thing. But 81 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.080 I am ordering my Cooper flag Jersey, Zach. And it 82 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.039 appears that the best time to do this would have 83 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:20.960 been two years ago. The second best time is now. 84 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.479 It appears they're finally doing the thing that we all 85 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:26.280 thought they should have done a couple of years ago. 86 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.840 Absolutely, and this is whether it's by accident or by 87 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.319 you know, on purpose, Like, I don't think it really matters. 88 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.199 What matters is that you get the you know, you 89 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.840 get the franchise guy right like that. Again, That's that's 90 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.280 really all that matters here. I get it. You gotta 91 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:42.840 sell tickets. You got to make the fans happy. What 92 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.280 will make the fans happy if they're upset now? And 93 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.319 I'm you know, I haven't really interacted that much, but 94 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.479 I've seen Tony Jones' timeline and Jazz fans seem to 95 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.400 be like, what like this stinks, like this isn't fun? 96 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.120 And I agree, it's not fun. You know what could 97 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.400 be fun. Fifteen years of Cooper Flag, that could be fun. 98 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.639 Yeah, And you know, to your point about wimbinyon the 99 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:05.120 last night, I mean, it's hard to nap through a 100 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.439 stat line like that. But Jazz fans with a front 101 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.400 row seat of what the prize could have been two 102 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.080 years ago. And I know there's no guarantees. Every time 103 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:16.879 I bring this up, I get the whole you know, 104 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:19.759 DM or tweet. Look, they're flat and thanks. I'm glad 105 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.160 you read a Hollinger article and now you're smarter. Like 106 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.319 I know, Detroit went all in and they didn't get it. 107 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.800 Atlanta had the ten best odds and they got one. 108 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.639 So there's no guaranteed path, but front row seat of 109 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.360 what the prize could have been if they did it 110 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:35.639 two years ago, but they didn't. 111 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.399 And here we are. Tell me, Zach, and tell the 112 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:38.160 listeners here. 113 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.040 What are you hearing about Cooper Flag and watching Duke 114 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.680 basketball this year? As I'm encouraging Jazz fans to do, Like, 115 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:47.680 what are some of this Because I don't do this 116 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.199 gouting thing like I used to do on the level 117 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:52.000 that I did once upon a time. What are the 118 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:53.800 experts really saying about Cooper Flag? 119 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:54.240 Right now. 120 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.680 I mean, I think the biggest thing with him is 121 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.720 one like, you've either really good athlete, right like, really 122 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.040 really good athlete, very active and in a defensive way 123 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.079 like he's. I think defensively is where he is going 124 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.360 to make his biggest impact. He has a pretty incredible 125 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.399 instinct for where to be. He makes up for it 126 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:17.480 when he misses out on those instincts. If he makes 127 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.759 a mistake, he's still quick enough and long enough and 128 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:23.600 athletic enough to make up for it offensively. I have 129 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.040 plenty of questions about him offensively. I've kind of been 130 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:28.839 comparing him. I know we're not supposed to do this, 131 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.480 but it's been a cross across racial comparison to like, 132 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:33.920 he reminds me of Sean Marion. And you may look 133 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:35.879 at that and be like, that's not a franchise guy. Yeah, 134 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.040 maybe not, but he also could develop in a very 135 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.680 different way. I don't love his handle, I don't love 136 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.759 his jump shot, but I do love the way he 137 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.240 attacks on offense. He's very good off the ball. Defensively, 138 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.360 he's just a monster, Like I mean, he's maybe he's 139 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.680 not the franchise guy. Maybe he's not Wemby. Maybe he's 140 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.480 not you know, a Zion or whatever. He's gonna be like, 141 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.800 he's gonna be really good. And the great thing if 142 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.519 you miss out on him. There's an Ace Bailey, There's Harper, 143 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.279 there's the big guy from from Duke through the Sudanese kid. Like, 144 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.720 there's like five or six guys who could be this 145 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.160 And then look, I know we don't want to stretch 146 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.040 it out too much, and I know this could be frustrating, 147 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.639 but twenty twenty six is loaded too, Like that's an 148 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.079 incredible draft class too. Like being bad in the next 149 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.000 two years will set you up for success down the road. 150 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:22.000 There there is some jazz news. 151 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:23.920 I want to get your thoughts on for real, because 152 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.240 since you and I last spoke, just a horrific scene 153 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.680 in Dallas with Taylor Hendrick's leg snapping in half. Poor kid, 154 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.240 And what I will say is both speaking to people 155 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.480 over there then just watching with my own two eyes. Bigger, 156 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.759 Stronger came back in great shape, apparently had a great 157 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.279 summer and stayed here a lot, and he and Keyante 158 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:43.879 worked out together a lot. 159 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.959 So we've seen it. And I'm not gonna the dudes 160 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:47.199 on the. 161 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.000 Radio that walk people through the difference of the fibula 162 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.319 and the tibula drive me crazy, So I'm not going 163 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:54.480 to do that. What I will say is, I know 164 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.800 there's some variable between a guy like Taylor and a 165 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.480 guy like Hayward or Paul Georgie or Marquis or Wes 166 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.519 Matthews or what have you. We've seen injuries like this. 167 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.839 He's twenty years old. That's great news. My guess is 168 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.279 he'll heal and be fine. But what's does Zach Harper 169 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.000 take on what this injury means for the potential future 170 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.240 development of Taylor Hendrix. 171 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.079 I don't think it. I mean, yeah, he loses a year, right, 172 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.360 and maybe a little bit more. I mean, I'm not 173 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:22.040 quite sure what the timeline is gonna end up being 174 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:25.120 for him. But so that that stinks. But for the 175 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.399 most part, I like, I mean, I liked him as 176 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.000 a prospect coming out. I liked even like the little 177 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:31.480 we saw last year. I thought when he was on 178 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.079 the court, he made an impact. And then this year 179 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.120 he looked good to start out the season right like 180 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.399 like he looked, he looked very active, he looked very comfortable. 181 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.680 It just sucks, like I think he'll be fine long term. 182 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.399 I'm not going to get into I'm with you, like 183 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.680 I'm not going to get into like which bone was 184 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.680 broken and what that means. It's modern medicine. It's like 185 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.839 it's gonna be I think he's gonna be fine, I 186 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:54.040 really do, but but it just sucks. Like he's such 187 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.199 a talented young guy, and he's such a hard worker 188 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.480 by all accounts, and I think he's I think he's 189 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.560 going to be a really good role player for a 190 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.720 very long time. He just needs to be helping it. 191 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.000 And it's another blow to that. 192 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.120 So Sam Amic, former member of the NBA Daily Assist, 193 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.560 and we still get him whenever we can, wrote a 194 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.079 piece recently about some young players to watch out. 195 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.120 For as far as you know, potentially being traded. 196 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.839 I know it's only November first, we've only got five games, 197 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:21.600 but we're all just doing the thing where we talk 198 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.959 about things that we hope you're interested in our thing, 199 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.759 and Walker Kessler is one of the names that he 200 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.639 brought up. I guess there was an athletic report that 201 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.919 the Lakers have interest in Walker, and you know, he 202 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.639 has been one of the very few bright spots so 203 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.120 far for the Jazz. He's actually looked pretty good. He's 204 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.799 rebounding with physicality. He's bigger, he's stronger. I don't like 205 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.120 he's I don't think he's ever going to be like 206 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:45.399 an eighteen point a night guy. 207 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:46.000 That's fine. 208 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.360 He's back to really affecting rim percentage. He's blocking about 209 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.240 three shots per game, and he does look bigger and stronger. 210 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:56.600 He's young, and if the Jazz are willing, I'm certainly calling. 211 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.840 What do you make about what Sam wrote? 212 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.679 Yeah, I mean I think there are a lot of 213 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.799 teams who are just looking for, you know, confident size 214 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:10.159 with you know, and on player control contracts that aren't 215 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.440 outrageous yet. And Walker fits that perfectly. He's such a 216 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.720 good rim protector. He's good around the rim offensively, you know, 217 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.399 he can do a little bit with the basketball. He 218 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.799 could run some dribble handoff stuff with him. He's just 219 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:23.840 a really good rebounder. I think a lot of teams 220 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.320 will be interested. Now. I'm interested to see what the 221 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.759 Jazz front office would expect back in return. I think 222 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.480 we know Danny and Justin are are pretty aggressive and 223 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:34.159 what they want back just in general. So I don't 224 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:35.960 know that there's any kind of imminent deal. But yeah, 225 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.960 there's I mean, there were teams calling on him in 226 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.080 the summer, as we heard, right, Like, there have been 227 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.639 teams that are very interested in him as soon as 228 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.960 it looks like anybody on the roster could be available 229 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.120 that you know, the Jazz have been fielding calls. People 230 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.039 have been putting that out there. I don't expect anything 231 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.559 this year. I think it would be kind of crazy 232 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.840 unless they were just blown away by an offer. But 233 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.159 he's I mean, he's really good. Teams are going to 234 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.879 want really good players last Jazz. 235 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:00.960 Then we'll move on. 236 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.559 And I know you and I have talked about this before, 237 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.440 and I actually give you the credit for it, because 238 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.320 before they drafted Keyante, you reference like, hey, the dude 239 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.720 just doesn't really know how to make shots very well. 240 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:12.960 And he still doesn't. 241 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.039 It's been almost three years, and if you average out 242 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:19.320 the splits between college rookie in the first five years, 243 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.279 I mean, it's really like thirty four percent from the 244 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.320 floor in like twenty nine percent from three. 245 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.039 Like, I know he's young. 246 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.039 I know he's a kid, but he has shown now 247 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.000 for almost three straight years of playing basketball, he is 248 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.720 a basketball player that's not good at shooting the ball 249 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.440 into the basket, which could be an issue. 250 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:36.799 At one point. 251 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.799 At what point should Jazz fans be legitimately concerned about this? 252 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.799 I mean, I think I don't know, Like I think, 253 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:48.120 by the end of this season, if if it still 254 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.879 looks the same way, yeah, then I would be concerned. 255 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.440 You know, first two years for a guy especially, I 256 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.159 think there's so many pluses with him, Like I know, 257 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:57.399 I had a bunch of turnovers yesterday, but you know, 258 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.639 he's He's got a really good feel for the game, 259 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.200 and and I like the shots that he takes for 260 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.480 the most part. It's not like he's just chucking up 261 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.720 bad shots all the time. I think I think he 262 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.279 understands how to play. I don't know what that that 263 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:13.840 difference is. I don't know if he needs to be 264 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.840 stronger as he goes to the basket. I don't know 265 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:19.679 if he needs to be you know, quicker in terms 266 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.679 of how he gathers into his jump shot. I don't 267 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:24.360 know what that balance is. But everything looks good to 268 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.600 me except it clangs off the rim right, And and 269 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:30.000 so I think by the end of year two, I 270 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.080 mean I kind of approached the whole Scoot Henderson thing 271 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:34.679 the same way I get it. He doesn't make shots. 272 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:36.240 You know, he's been okay the last couple of games, 273 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.360 But I just look for the process of how they 274 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.720 get to those shots at a certain point. Yeah, two years. 275 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.360 In end of two years, you should be making at 276 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.440 least a decent number. And it's troubling that he has 277 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.399 gotten out to such a poor start now because I 278 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.200 would imagine that gets into his head a little bit. 279 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.480 I still like the way he plays. I don't know 280 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.879 if that's just me being stubborn about him, but I 281 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:59.519 you know, if he's still shooting this way in December, yeah, 282 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.679 then I maybe figure out what you need to do. 283 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.120 If he's still shooting this way, definitely in March or April. Okay, 284 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.080 now that's now that seems to be a big problem. 285 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.919 Most teams have only played four or five games. 286 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.159 I mean, we don't know anything about anything as of now. 287 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.720 But of all the teams that you thought would be decent, 288 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.200 they're off to a bad star which team stands out 289 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:18.519 the most? 290 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:19.480 And why is it? Milwaukee? 291 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:23.240 It's me just you know what I've got this there. 292 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:28.240 This is zero reporting. This is just me being chaotic. Well, 293 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.399 I would say this. We heard things towards the end 294 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.840 of last season that maybe Monty Williams wasn't dying to 295 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.120 keep that job in Detroit, right it was massive, massive contract. 296 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.559 He was a horrible coach last year. It went beyond 297 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.919 the talent, like his decisions were atrocious, and a lot 298 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.360 of people wondered if he was, you know, maybe taking 299 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.840 his own job because of the money coming in. I 300 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:51.320 don't know if that's true or not. That's just the 301 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.120 conversation that was that was being had. There's part of 302 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:55.919 me that thinks stock Rivers looked at that and said, 303 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.360 I could do that, you know, like I could I 304 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.200 could get that done. Like Chris Middleton's fantastic. He shouldn't 305 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.480 be the difference between them getting blown out by thirty 306 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.159 in Memphis and being a title contending team or even 307 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.399 just a good team, like they have the talent, they 308 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.000 have the players, This is good enough. I don't know 309 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.279 what isn't clicking. It's not like Dame and Yannis have 310 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.080 just been bad to start the season, but there is 311 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.679 just something where it doesn't work. 312 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:25.159 And it's too. 313 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.360 Early to say they've got to blow it up. It's 314 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.399 too early to say any of that. But the fact 315 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:33.639 that you're already getting those Yiannis comments and those Giannis 316 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.559 like well, maybe he does want to get traded after 317 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.360 end this year, and whether it's true or not, those 318 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.080 things seep in and I just like, I really thought 319 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.320 Milwaukee was going to come in this season and establish them, like, Hey, 320 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.440 we were supposed to be this team last year, we 321 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.320 are this team. We're gonna do this now, Like five 322 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.320 games in, I'm ready to just write them off and 323 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:52.600 that's crazy. You shouldn't do that. 324 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:57.080 Five games then, well, look, I will admit to potentially 325 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.480 being blinded here because Doc was a nick in the 326 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.639 nineties and that that was my team. Yeah, but you 327 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.559 from my seat, you've kind of always been like either 328 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:08.679 lukewarm or entirely out on him. 329 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.759 Is that fair? 330 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.440 You know? I mean, I think he's a I don't 331 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.080 think he's a bad coach. I just don't think he's 332 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.159 a great coach. Like I think he's I think he 333 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:22.240 can help a good team remain good. I think he 334 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.559 caught the perfect storm with Kevin Garnett being super underrated 335 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.159 when he got moved from Minnesota there, and I think 336 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.039 Kevin Garnett did a lot for Doc Rivers and did 337 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:31.720 a lot for Paul Pierce, Like I just do I 338 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.639 think that he was the reason that team was great. 339 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.279 I know Paul Pierce got the finals, MVP, don't care 340 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.720 like KG ran that team and sacrifice in the way 341 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.559 you want and ever since then. I mean, look, JJ 342 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.440 Reddick can be salty about things and have a bad 343 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.519 perspective or a biased perspective. I think a lot of 344 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.080 the things that he brought up when he was an 345 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.200 analyst on ESPN throwing Doc under the bus, I think 346 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.360 there's some validity to a lot of that. I think 347 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.320 it was maybe a little harsh and unfair at the 348 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.080 same time, but there's a lot there. Like, he's a 349 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.960 smart basketball guy, he knows the game. I don't doubt 350 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.879 any of that stuff. At the same time, I have 351 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:10.080 a real problem. This has really like come to form 352 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.559 the last couple of years, and it mostly has to 353 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.879 do with Darryl Mory. But I do think Doc Rivers 354 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.279 is in that same vein of when you were doing 355 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.080 nothing but making excuses for why something isn't your fault. 356 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.759 We weren't healthy, the rest did this, so all this stuff, right, 357 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:28.000 I think you set up a culture of excuse making 358 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.559 that is not conducive to competing for a championship. We 359 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:34.120 saw that with the Clippers. We've seen that, you know 360 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.159 in Milwaukee early on, like there's just always a reason 361 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.960 why it's not his fault or it's not their fault. 362 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.120 And I don't think that is the proper way to 363 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:43.919 build a winning basketball culture. 364 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.840 Speaking of Reddick, have you. 365 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.120 Know, they lost a couple straight, but they got off 366 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:49.759 to that three and zero start. So every time I've 367 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.120 turned on ESPN, there was a big Laker thing, because 368 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.000 that's the deal. Is there anything real about what Reddick 369 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.000 has done that makes them look different and better in 370 00:15:58.039 --> 00:15:58.480 your mind? 371 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.799 I mean, they they just look like they want to 372 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.720 play for him. And I know that sounds very cliche 373 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.120 and very vague, but you know, he talked a big 374 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.240 game about, you know, upping their three point volume all 375 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.720 of stuff that it doesn't really happen, Like they're shooting 376 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.559 the same amount of threes as they did under Darbnham, 377 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.000 But there is a different energy. Maybe that's just the 378 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.440 start of the season. They seem more organized. They're running 379 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.879 some cool stuff out of timeouts. You know, they've got 380 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:22.320 some good sets they're using guys, They've unlocked a d 381 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.919 a little bit more it looks good. I still want 382 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.879 to see what does it look like if they lose 383 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.399 four to five in a row, right, and maybe we're 384 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.559 about to see that. I don't know, but I do 385 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.000 think he's an upgrade. I don't know if he's the six, 386 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:37.840 but so far I think the results are really good. 387 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.200 It's not Milwaukee. 388 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.679 But look, you know, I always draw the parallel because 389 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.039 NFL people would talk about, like the Colts just wasting 390 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.799 Andrew lock and after like seven years, Andrew Luck was like, 391 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.840 I don't want to do this anymore. And Jokic has 392 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.279 a ring. It's not like they haven't done anything with him. 393 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.960 But are they in danger? Because whenever I lock in 394 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.639 on Denver and watch him, I'm just like, he's still 395 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:00.480 the best in the world. 396 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.559 And I don't know that it's close right now. 397 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:06.480 To be honest, is Denver in trouble at this point 398 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.319 and potentially wasting the final five? I don't know, four 399 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.319 or five six years of this type of play from Jokic. 400 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.559 Absolutely, they got cheap. They got cheap, and look what 401 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.519