Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Tuesday. Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode
Speaker 1: nine hundred and eleven. I'm your host approaching the Green
Speaker 1: jam Shoa, Welcome to the Giant BombCast. Joining me as
Speaker 1: I was co captain of the ship. He's picked a
Speaker 1: sand wedge as a driver and we're just going to
Speaker 1: see him cook.
Speaker 2: Jeff Grubb, it's a beautiful day out here on the greens, Janichoa.
Speaker 3: We are really going to witness some special golfing here today.
Speaker 1: Speaking about special golfing, it's all in the hips, because
Speaker 1: he is the most hip person in a hip moving
Speaker 1: guy on the podcast on the website. Jeff Beckler, Well.
Speaker 3: No, it's a beauty all day out here.
Speaker 4: And Agusta, we're apparencing winds out of the north, not
Speaker 4: three miles an hour.
Speaker 3: Did they do that?
Speaker 4: They do the weather a lot because that matters.
Speaker 3: That's like a big part of the gold broad.
Speaker 1: Part of the meta.
Speaker 3: Back to you at the at the studio, Jan, we have.
Speaker 1: The human equivalent of a sandtrap. Dan Reichert, I.
Speaker 5: Feel like I'm going to strain something trying to talk
Speaker 5: quietly for the first.
Speaker 1: Time in my life. How you do it? Is this
Speaker 1: good they don't have to trap it hurts I hear it,
Speaker 1: heard it. We all have to do this until we
Speaker 1: introduced the last guy. Okay, all right, who's he's no
Speaker 1: longer the bad boy of games media because he's a
Speaker 1: dirty boy. That's right, Because he's out on the what
Speaker 1: do you call it? It's not a field when it's
Speaker 1: golf course court, of course, there you go. I don't
Speaker 1: I still don't know the battle zone, that's right, Thank you, Dan,
Speaker 1: when you're out on the battle zones. Because he's washing
Speaker 1: his ball, that's right.
Speaker 3: The merchmaster, my Bnatti, buy all this shit that I'm wearing.
Speaker 3: Go to store dot die bomb dot com and deposit money.
Speaker 3: Get hat and shirt, golf hat, golf shirt, get giant
Speaker 3: buck golf with It's.
Speaker 2: A merchmaster, a Pokemon that can only say the merchise selling.
Speaker 5: I gotta say, there's several forms of Mike Manati, and
Speaker 5: I think my favorite might be screaming merchman yeah wears Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Really I really need to edit the video you did, Mike.
Speaker 1: It just throw some CRT filters on it. Throw in
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like PNGs of like you two
Speaker 1: can buy Golf week March. Yeah, taking like a local
Speaker 1: TV ed Mike Manati. I say this in the most
Speaker 1: pop a way possible. You exude when you're in merch
Speaker 1: master mode, the biggest Billy May's energy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure, and.
Speaker 4: Like we need that in the world, you know, Yes,
Speaker 4: Jan I forgot how little you know about golf vocabulary.
Speaker 4: I remember the last time, right, what were we doing
Speaker 4: last time where you were just like, what do you
Speaker 4: call the flat carpet part with the hole in it? Right,
Speaker 4: Like you just didn't know like what a green was?
Speaker 3: It was awesome. I think it was.
Speaker 1: Was it Mario Golf for the switch been?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I yeah, it was. It was Oh no,
Speaker 4: someone chested it was Bingo Papadoppolis. No, no, because that's
Speaker 4: not quite a golf golf game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about golf. I learned that a
Speaker 1: driver and a sand wedge and an iron or different
Speaker 1: golf clubs.
Speaker 3: Would you happy, Gilmour?
Speaker 1: I love a lot of Adam Sandler things, but I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with the character's familiar with.
Speaker 5: To hockey stick. Yeah, yeah, sure, like you. I can
Speaker 5: never think of the word pool que. Whenever she sees one,
Speaker 5: she calls it a pool pole, And then when I
Speaker 5: say it's a queue, she's like, I think pole would
Speaker 5: be better. Even if so, that's not what it's called.
Speaker 5: It's it's q Yeah, you know, Okay.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit late to start lobbying the pool
Speaker 2: industry to change the name of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I speak about pool cues and pool poles. I've
Speaker 1: encountered a lot of old men walking to a pool
Speaker 1: hall that bring their own cues. Oh yeah, is that yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that like too much pieces?
Speaker 6: I have two pool poles in my storage here.
Speaker 1: It's like bowling balls. I get right, because you want
Speaker 1: the weight, it feels right for you.
Speaker 3: Same thing.
Speaker 2: They're the exact same level. You bring your own bowling ball,
Speaker 2: You're going to be the same guy that brings your
Speaker 2: own pool queue for sure.
Speaker 6: I bet fifty percent of them have flames on them.
Speaker 1: Oh I wish, I wish.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I want to say fifty one. I want
Speaker 2: to say it's on the over.
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, yeah. Do people bring their
Speaker 1: own darts or is that yeah? I want to do
Speaker 1: the game thing.
Speaker 5: There's always gonna be like leagues and people who take
Speaker 5: it super seriously and they always have their own ship.
Speaker 4: That makes I mean, all this makes sense, right, because
Speaker 4: all the stock stuff is it's it's garbage, it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's been through the ringer.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, sure sure. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: another sport where you would just rock the default stuff.
Speaker 1: But I guess if.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the ones where has to be provided by
Speaker 2: the league itself, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's very few.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess yeah, not even like people bring
Speaker 4: their their own bats to batting cages obviously your own
Speaker 4: clubs to the golf course.
Speaker 6: I betles.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you know what word in the in the
Speaker 1: twitch chat? Would I use default coffee gear? You're right now,
Speaker 1: it all makes sense, right, It just had to be
Speaker 1: put in perspective.
Speaker 3: I think I think I'm letting golf we get to me.
Speaker 3: I think I'm sorry to take it too seriously. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I stayed up like watching videos about the
Speaker 3: actual Pebble Beach, not the Siga Saturday Quick Stadler, for
Speaker 3: like three hours last night. I've learned a lot about
Speaker 3: that course and why there's First I think there's just
Speaker 3: a Golf Digest overview of it. Then there's some like Young,
Speaker 3: there's some golf influenc there who just has a very
Speaker 3: popular golf channel. He went the Pebble Beach for the
Speaker 3: first time, so I watched him play eighteen holes on it.
Speaker 3: Then there was like a restored classic matchup of Jack
Speaker 3: Nicholas and got some guy that was older than him
Speaker 3: at the time. He's just in his twenties then who
Speaker 3: was like a legend, and they played eighteen on head
Speaker 3: and it was this really interesting match. So yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that or if it's just
Speaker 3: the festive golf week atmosphere, but I just I'm like, really, in.
Speaker 4: A golf it's an interesting course, right, it's like very famous.
Speaker 3: It's like uh oh, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4: It's very strange, right and difficult, and it's even it's
Speaker 4: even better when you realize it's naturally occurring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got me on the side.
Speaker 5: Wait be young golf influencers, and I'm thinking, like, their
Speaker 5: videos can't just be like unedited eighteen holes, right, it's
Speaker 5: gotta be like, is it like mister beasted up?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: This one wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3: It was mostly he played eighteen holes and it was cut,
Speaker 3: so you know, it was like a forty five minute
Speaker 3: video of him doing all that and talking about the
Speaker 3: course and you know some goose here. I bet he
Speaker 3: probably has more gimmicky videos too, but this one, like
Speaker 3: you know, it's just I'm playing Pebble Beach for the
Speaker 3: first time. This is a dream come true. You talking
Speaker 3: about some of the history, like the seventh hole. Is
Speaker 3: that par three that's right there on the cliff by
Speaker 3: the ocean. It's very dramatic and beautiful because that's a
Speaker 3: very famous hole. Craig Staydler did tell me that, and
Speaker 3: now I understand.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yes, he was very supportive, the grandfather figure
Speaker 1: I never had until he wasn't he got I saw
Speaker 1: a video that he had to control his rage. Of course, I.
Speaker 3: Told you, like, I have no evidence of this, but
Speaker 3: he just looks like a person with.
Speaker 1: An anger management problem. And then you do have evidence.
Speaker 2: There's literally a video where he talks about how he
Speaker 2: control of anger management issues.
Speaker 1: And that's why he got really into wine.
Speaker 3: Maybe Mike Maharty, Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, one of the same one and the same. When
Speaker 1: I think of Mike Maharty, I think of a Walrus
Speaker 1: as well, but like a smaller, more spelt one.
Speaker 2: Lle you ogotiate wine with Mike Maharty now that when
Speaker 2: there was a news story on NPR yesterday about how
Speaker 2: the wine industry is kind of been a lull, like
Speaker 2: people aren't buying wine the way they used to, and
Speaker 2: so it's like they're they're gonna just let like a
Speaker 2: metric ton of grapes rot this year because they're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to use it for wine.
Speaker 1: And I was just like legitimately worried about Mike.
Speaker 6: I'm like he was distraught he had to miss a
Speaker 6: couple episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what That's what I figured all six
Speaker 2: time off bounce back.
Speaker 1: Okay, I really like wine, but then I've noticed I
Speaker 1: just I think I like wine because it's cheap. Where
Speaker 1: I go get wine, I mean there's cheaping versions of
Speaker 1: the booze, you know. Yeah, but like I don't like
Speaker 1: cheap beer, but cheap wine like yeah juice.
Speaker 3: I'm with you guys there.
Speaker 4: The delta between cheap wine and expensive wine is a
Speaker 4: lot slimmer.
Speaker 5: It's at Yeah, you're gonna summon Mike Mahrdy like beetle juice.
Speaker 5: If we keep talking, It's okay, it'd.
Speaker 4: Be nice to see him.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice he's a nice guy. Like he's a
Speaker 1: nice boy. He's a nice boy. And I just remember
Speaker 1: one time we were at a bar and he looked
Speaker 1: at me and he just like threw his hands in
Speaker 1: the air and said, jan, I know you're looking at
Speaker 1: my ears. I'm like, what one you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: what And then he just goes like, I know I
Speaker 1: have small ears. Stop looking. I can't help but look.
Speaker 1: But it's okay if you out there have small ears
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Speaker 1: Dumb Truck. If you are on Spotify, Uh, the video
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Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's like a small little toggle when you go select
Speaker 1: the podcast and just like boo that and then hey,
Speaker 1: bing bang boom, you can see our lovely mugs on
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Speaker 1: So there we go. If you've ever only listened to
Speaker 1: us and you want to see what we look like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's cooking something? I have a hair?
Speaker 4: What what could be better than that? Aside from like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, mugs in the store?
Speaker 3: How up that the whole golf The before delivered a
Speaker 3: huge sales day for us through golf Week, which you
Speaker 3: could be a part of my going to store dot
Speaker 3: giant bomb dot com everybody, and you're on this mug bullshit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: That was That was yesterday, Mike today is today.
Speaker 3: Lately selling more colf shirts and the hats. Hey, why'm
Speaker 3: sure to that? That's what I'm doing today?
Speaker 1: It's golf week.
Speaker 3: Idea to do a golf week There I am dressed
Speaker 3: like an asshole, I mean a stud to sell.
Speaker 4: The shitory straight, get your story straight.
Speaker 1: Speak about getting the story straight. We're open to communication,
Speaker 1: we're being honest and what we're going to be honest about.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to toss this to Jeff Beckler. You're
Speaker 1: going to get an email in your email inbox from
Speaker 1: you might us you might Yes, No, it's not from us.
Speaker 1: It's not from us. See that's why clear communication. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to toss this to the more qualified person
Speaker 1: to talk about it.
Speaker 4: That's right, me, the emailer, the one and only true emailer. No, listen, folks,
Speaker 4: depending on the level of engagement that you've had with
Speaker 4: our website over the last I don't know, two years
Speaker 4: or so, you will likely be getting an email. I
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Speaker 4: no reply at Giant Bomb. But it is an email
Speaker 4: that you should take seriously because it will also include
Speaker 4: instructions and directions on migrating your account to our brand
Speaker 4: new website which is coming later this year fingers crossed.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's just something we want to put out
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Speaker 4: from the source. We are authenticating it. It is not spam,
Speaker 4: just so you know. It is a real ass email
Speaker 4: that you need to take seriously and read and hopefully
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Speaker 3: That's about it.
Speaker 4: Just want to put that out there on everyone's radar,
Speaker 4: make sure you know what's coming. You might get this
Speaker 4: email today, you might get it next week, you might
Speaker 4: get it two weeks from now. But if you do
Speaker 4: get it, I think the subject will say something about
Speaker 4: you know, independent Giant Bomb and all that good news. Yeah,
Speaker 4: give it a read, let us know if you have
Speaker 4: any questions. And that's about it, Jan speak about two weeks,
Speaker 4: give or take.
Speaker 1: I just want to say this out loud because this
Speaker 1: is an open forum and a safe space to talk.
Speaker 1: But I miss seeing yell in person. I wish I
Speaker 1: could see all in person. Dan, can you do anything
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 5: I can absolutely do something about that. Jan, you know,
Speaker 5: four or the five of us on this call. You know,
Speaker 5: Mike wasn't born yet. Mike, remember in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: we all got together and we had a real fun
Speaker 5: time on the East Coast and we spent fifteen hours
Speaker 5: spending time with each other, playing local multiplayer games with
Speaker 5: each other, and doing a whole subscriber drive thing for
Speaker 5: a giant bond back in the day.
Speaker 6: That was three years ago.
Speaker 5: Now we including young Mike Manatti and including Chuck and Sean,
Speaker 5: we'll be going back to the East Coast. We did
Speaker 5: fifteen hours last time, twenty four hours stretch switch, YouTube,
Speaker 5: subscriber drive, Giant Bambathon. We got a lot of fun
Speaker 5: stuff planned, a lot of stuff in the works right now.
Speaker 5: We've been talking about it for like two months now.
Speaker 5: I think maybe some people here haven't seen love on
Speaker 5: a leash. We'll see if there's some incentives for that,
Speaker 5: but yes, details to come. But the main thing you
Speaker 5: need to know is Monday October twenty seventh, five pm
Speaker 5: Eastern until Tuesday October twenty eight at five pm Eastern,
Speaker 5: we will be doing the Giant Bambathon twenty twenty five
Speaker 5: in person from the East Coast, all five of us,
Speaker 5: Chuck and Sean be there.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's leave my hair alone this time. I agree.
Speaker 1: Everyone chat's worried about it. I should be too. Yep.
Speaker 5: Well, we also got to figure out what we're doing
Speaker 5: with Extra life and Kayla. Kayla is always a foot,
Speaker 5: so you never know.
Speaker 1: She just comes at me with the scissors. That's right,
Speaker 1: thought up, But she's a person. Book, I'm just fucking
Speaker 1: donkey Kong. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, kaylamon, Yes, it's gonna be awesome. We have
Speaker 5: a lot of fun stuff planned and uh, it's gonna
Speaker 5: get stupid and fun late night twenty four hours evening
Speaker 5: to evening.
Speaker 6: You'll want to tune in for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very excited. There's been a lot of behind
Speaker 1: the scenes work going on a gang, so hats off
Speaker 1: to y'all here. I'm very excited to see y'all very soon.
Speaker 1: I'm less excited to perhaps witness love un a leash. Dan,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee you have to watch it the least lounge,
Speaker 1: the least lounge. Well, I was going to throw it
Speaker 1: to Dan to reveal it, Mike, but I guess you
Speaker 1: could just talk about it. I got excited, Mike, Why
Speaker 1: don't you tell us the name of motherfucker? We had
Speaker 1: the newshole at Dan's place in the East Coast. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have what Mike.
Speaker 3: Wish? Wow?
Speaker 1: Why did you say like that? I felt like I
Speaker 1: had to do something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm about to fuck up my like Amazon recommendations
Speaker 5: when I buy like seven leashes with human sized collars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do that. You can go to your
Speaker 3: your local Roman sort.
Speaker 1: Of find.
Speaker 2: Extreame restraints dot com. Everybody there's they're a sponsor.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, there you go, which is so leaicious on
Speaker 1: the bum. Michael, you got all the power to do that,
Speaker 1: you sybody. You don't even have to word yeah embroidered wishes.
Speaker 1: Oh great, Yeah, fantastic. It's gonna be a fun time.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Perhaps, uh well, we will do a
Speaker 1: full twenty four and who knows what else we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it feels like a chance, like really
Speaker 2: like just set up, set us up for the future,
Speaker 2: and just like really declare, Hey, yeah, all that stuff
Speaker 2: happened earlier this year.
Speaker 1: Now we're going forward and this will be the.
Speaker 3: Real start of it. So very excited about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, will there be singing, who knows. We'll probably
Speaker 1: do a podcast or two in between we are during
Speaker 1: actually yes, during during Shenanigans will be afoot. I'd like
Speaker 1: to order a pizza at one point the sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Detroit invention.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, you know I'm gonna say this. I think
Speaker 1: I like Detroit style pizza.
Speaker 2: Better anyway better, yeah, turned me ye, It's just it
Speaker 2: is demonstrably better.
Speaker 3: Opinions. I think both are good.
Speaker 1: Probably both are good, you know what, that's right, Just
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Fallon where we're not going to get political here,
Speaker 1: how dare you?
Speaker 4: And everyone loves that guy on a on account of
Speaker 4: that bullshit.
Speaker 6: Mike, the Jimmy Fallon of games media.
Speaker 3: Though the good boy never sold anybody anything, that's true
Speaker 3: are you talking about? I think he has.
Speaker 6: Somebody's bought a Fever Pitch DVD at some point.
Speaker 1: Depressing.
Speaker 3: I just SND.
Speaker 4: I think he has sold a lot of people, a
Speaker 4: whole lot of nothing.
Speaker 6: Hang on, I need to check something right now. I'm searching.
Speaker 1: And don't you look Barrymore in that movie? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: probably sold that movie.
Speaker 6: Do you think I'm gonna look this up?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Do you think he put out a comedy album with songs?
Speaker 1: I'll who probably? Yeah? Are you gonna look? Yes?
Speaker 5: And if he has one, there's gonna be an option
Speaker 5: in the Leash Lounge where you can just send some
Speaker 5: of the Leash Lounge and that's put on headphones and
Speaker 5: listen to the entire gymn.
Speaker 3: Maybe pot he collaborated on something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he popped on stuff and he he loves
Speaker 1: to sing on his show. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's made it. Folks album album, we have two answer.
Speaker 5: We have The Bathroom Wall from twenty two thousand and two,
Speaker 5: and we have Low Your Pants Off from twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Twenty twelve. Yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 5: Seems to be an actual music album where he brings
Speaker 5: in like, oh, it's like Timberlake and Paul mcfurk on it.
Speaker 5: He looks like the Bathroom Wall. Okay, Okay, the bathroom
Speaker 5: Walls count He released.
Speaker 1: Oh Christmas album last year Holiday Seasoning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not exciting.
Speaker 1: The look of this.
Speaker 5: I think that the bathroom Wall is his attempted at
Speaker 5: a Sandler thing. Here are the tracks, Idiot Boyfriend, I
Speaker 5: Can't Play Basketball, Drinking in the Woods, Road Rage, Snowball,
Speaker 5: troll Dolls, Celebrities, dorms, shower baskets, and the Walk of
Speaker 5: Shame Roommates Chris Rock was my ra gotta get a
Speaker 5: fake id troll doll jingles. We have two troll doll
Speaker 5: themed songs in two thousand and two and hammer Time.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's just a cover of hammer Time
Speaker 1: by mc hammer? It might be.
Speaker 2: Do you ever think about how is the movie Fever
Speaker 2: Pitch is a baseball movie, but it's a remake of
Speaker 2: an English movie about soccer, and so in the English
Speaker 2: movie it's fever pitch as in the field is called
Speaker 2: a pitch, and for baseball it's because they're pitching a ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting thing about that movie.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it is.
Speaker 6: Yes, do you want to see Taxi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Queen Latifa.
Speaker 5: And yeah no no, I watched that and Set of
Speaker 5: Love on a leasht.
Speaker 4: Nine tomatoes, nine Yeah, couldn't break double digits, could it?
Speaker 1: No? Not quite? Oh you mean a nine out of
Speaker 1: one hundred.
Speaker 6: Yes, that is what I meant.
Speaker 1: That's what I meant.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, I was confused there for a second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in uh, when I was in college, I
Speaker 1: had like a I forget the specific class, but you
Speaker 1: just kind of had to make like a mini reel
Speaker 1: for yourself. And I made this whole thing where I
Speaker 1: just wanted to take Jimmy Fallon's job of hosting Late
Speaker 1: Night and I just had like under it, and I
Speaker 1: thought I did a pretty good job. I don't fucking
Speaker 1: know where that file is anymore, but the whole thing
Speaker 1: was better than Jimmy Fallon and my classmates. Dug it.
Speaker 1: I thought I did a very good job in everything.
Speaker 1: But my my professor asked to speak with me after class,
Speaker 1: and I thought like, oh, she just wants to congratulate
Speaker 1: me or tell me I did a good job, because
Speaker 1: like your boy was busting out the after effects and
Speaker 1: everything and shoes and sound design ship, which was above
Speaker 1: all this like fucking eyemovie shit my classmates were doing.
Speaker 1: But anyway, she pulls me aside and she goes like
Speaker 1: jan I don't. I don't think it's a quite a
Speaker 1: polite of you to be bashing on a beloved member
Speaker 1: of the media. And yeah, I'm a big people describe
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon of the media. No one ever said that, No, well,
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 4: One, No, but I think that's the kind I think
Speaker 4: that those are the people who like that something in him.
Speaker 6: Nice boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then she just kept going like I
Speaker 1: loved his contributions to Saturday Night Live, and I love.
Speaker 2: Yes, such a fair way to describe it, though, contributions
Speaker 2: because he didn't make anyone laugh, but he contributed.
Speaker 5: He had a decent sailor impersonation on Celebrity Jeopardy. Outside
Speaker 5: of that, he was mostly known for sucking at like
Speaker 5: breaking during sketches. It's like the main thing he's known for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never understood why he's popular.
Speaker 1: No, Mike was there, a teacher, a ropey.
Speaker 3: It's just as weird got upset on Jimmy Fallon's behalf.
Speaker 1: I don't know. She was okay the rest of the semester,
Speaker 1: but I didn't quite trust her and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to bash Jimmy Fallon anymore.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about Jimie Town for another thirteen minutes. Right,
Speaker 2: that's the quota.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, check, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, did we
Speaker 1: clear the King of Meat threshold as well?
Speaker 3: I don't know, insane that Jimmy Fallon has a ride
Speaker 3: in Universal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the crazy thing actually about him.
Speaker 1: He would you say the Backlot Tour is a Jimmy
Speaker 1: Fallon ride.
Speaker 3: He's in Orlando. Gender is an entire ride that's just
Speaker 3: about Jimmy Fallon. You go in the Q is themed.
Speaker 3: The Q is actually the best part because it's the
Speaker 3: show museum that was where Twister was.
Speaker 1: Which was more dorade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's it's just a bad simulator, right,
Speaker 3: It's really weird. It's like you're in the audience for
Speaker 3: a show and you were three D glasses that he
Speaker 3: races you randomly, and you're the whole theater races him,
Speaker 3: and you go to the mood and office beloved characters
Speaker 3: show up, like when he's that girl who goes aw
Speaker 3: you see.
Speaker 5: Her, right, Jimmy Foul feels like the last celebrity who's
Speaker 5: famous just because he was on TV.
Speaker 2: Like he's just famous because he was he happened to
Speaker 2: be on TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's like.
Speaker 5: The harbinger of the death of good late Night, you know,
Speaker 5: because you don't. She was kind of coming in. It's
Speaker 5: like you're starting to get like, Lettermans retire. Yeah, Letterman's
Speaker 5: about to retire. The whole Lino Conean ships about to
Speaker 5: go down, and Conan kind of like exits, you know,
Speaker 5: uh late night not too long after. It's just like
Speaker 5: I think it all got what the ship once Fallon
Speaker 5: got involved.
Speaker 1: You don't, okay, because if we don't get Fallon, we
Speaker 1: don't get James Cordon right, right?
Speaker 3: Or is that a chicken or the a kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: At the same time as is Fallin, right, they both
Speaker 2: started a little bit, I think a little bit. But
Speaker 2: after okay, yeah, okay, that being said, I miss Craig Ferguson.
Speaker 2: He's not a piece of right. He's around, he's doing
Speaker 2: something right, He's okay.
Speaker 1: Ferguson.
Speaker 2: Craig Ferguson was the best. He was so good at
Speaker 2: his monologues.
Speaker 1: It was incredible.
Speaker 6: Jolbourne doing is is remember Yambo.
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I remember being in that old was he an old school.
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 3: He's the creep?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was he talk soup.
Speaker 3: And guy I care about Craig Stadler from Pebble Beach
Speaker 3: Golf Leaks, speaking of golf, taking away my.
Speaker 1: Golf Week is happening right now.
Speaker 3: Everybody on Giant Bomb and you can celebrate with your
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Speaker 3: get one or the other, or be a real pro
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Speaker 3: Golf Week. It's not just for us, It's for you.
Speaker 2: He was the daily show host, former John Stewart.
Speaker 1: That's what I was.
Speaker 6: Thinking, old enough to remember Stuart being the new guy.
Speaker 5: And then I also got Kilbourne's late Late show after
Speaker 5: Tom Snyder and before Greg Perguson.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and Tom Snyder was like not funny, and
Speaker 2: I was very confused.
Speaker 6: This is a dark room where he talked to boring people.
Speaker 1: That was the thing.
Speaker 5: That Ken Work came on. He was he was pretty funny.
Speaker 5: Actually he was fine compared to Tom Snyder. I could
Speaker 5: so do that.
Speaker 1: If I, okay, Gang, if I wind up moving to
Speaker 1: l A, I'm just gonna rent out a shitty the
Speaker 1: shittiest little closet studio possible, and we're just gonna invite
Speaker 1: whoever wants to come, and.
Speaker 6: The cigarettes too.
Speaker 1: I could be miss.
Speaker 3: Eve better.
Speaker 4: You speaking his language, and then they roulette. Yeah, Pokemon cards.
Speaker 6: Tom Schnyder would not shut the fuck up about Pokemon cards.
Speaker 1: It's like you guys are reading off of a list
Speaker 1: of my favorite things. Tom Snyder Pokemon cards. I don't
Speaker 1: know who Tom Snyder smoking overalls, don't.
Speaker 3: We're just standing there, gin there. I miss the robot
Speaker 3: host of me to Craig Ferguson.
Speaker 2: He was a gay robot and that was a representation
Speaker 2: we need ever spelled that way of a g I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll maybe we'll compile lists later. But speaking
Speaker 1: about lists, Dan Riker, you came to us early this
Speaker 1: morning because you got a new magazine. Please please please
Speaker 1: describe the thought process.
Speaker 5: Yes, I have not told you the plan for this list.
Speaker 5: I only told you I want to have a blank
Speaker 5: list of fifty entries, and I want to see if
Speaker 5: we can just kind of rapid fire how many of
Speaker 5: these we can name. I just the time and place
Speaker 5: of this magazine, and it makes me very interested. The
Speaker 5: video game history Foundation. This is not an ad. I
Speaker 5: pay for this every month and I have for years.
Speaker 5: They do a vintage magazine kind of blind box thing,
Speaker 5: so every month you get like an old DGM or
Speaker 5: Game Pro or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You can get some.
Speaker 2: Computer Gaming World yesterday. So I was very excited because
Speaker 2: I've never read one of those, only heard good things
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I got mine yesterday and it was from October
Speaker 5: two thousand and one, and it is a PSN is
Speaker 5: a issue number fifty of PSN, and that's the top here.
Speaker 1: It is a least for.
Speaker 6: From SSX, which I showed up to.
Speaker 5: Banka pointed about what I remember crappy the face looks
Speaker 5: and then lovingly drawn breast like just the marks and everything.
Speaker 3: The lips and the tits, and you're, guest, wait, that's
Speaker 3: that's snowboarding.
Speaker 6: This is the snowboarding game, Beckler.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know, I don't remember that character anyway, they do,
Speaker 4: never mind.
Speaker 5: So what fascinates me about this is for the fiftieth
Speaker 5: issue of PSM. You can see the seal is not broken.
Speaker 5: I have not opened it yet, so I don't know anything.
Speaker 5: They list the fifty best PlayStation games ever as of
Speaker 5: year two thousand and one one, so we're so we're
Speaker 5: like a year into and keep in mind that probably
Speaker 5: like got finalized and sent to the printers in like
Speaker 5: August or whatever. So that means there was a lot
Speaker 5: of stuff in that first year PS two that they're
Speaker 5: like kind of a week first year and then like
Speaker 5: that holiday season. I feel like it was like GTA three,
Speaker 5: Middle Year, Solid two, Final, Fantasy ten, like all these
Speaker 5: huge ones.
Speaker 6: So I am so curious.
Speaker 5: I mean, this would basically be like from the first
Speaker 5: PlayStation launch to the first year of the PS two,
Speaker 5: Like what would the top fifty games be?
Speaker 6: So, Jane, you've got a list. Can the folks at
Speaker 6: home see that?
Speaker 1: Yes, they should be able to find the list?
Speaker 2: And Jim, why don't you like call us out one
Speaker 2: by one and then Dan, you'll gill check and then
Speaker 2: we'll go to the next person.
Speaker 1: Does that sound like the best way to do this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking quick, look, yeah, well let's do let's let's
Speaker 1: go around the horn. I'll call you all out. Let's
Speaker 1: do two games each person.
Speaker 5: And don't do me because I'll be checking this and
Speaker 5: Janie'll go out the list and now let's try to
Speaker 5: get the top ten.
Speaker 3: First, guys, let's try to like nail the top ten.
Speaker 5: They do separate it from the truly tantalizing ten and
Speaker 5: the tremendous twenty five and then the top fifty. So
Speaker 5: and I'll get the truly tantalizing ten.
Speaker 1: Okay. And again, Dan, this is the best, the top the.
Speaker 5: Best PlayStation games ever. This is PSX, the magazine PSM PSM. Okay,
Speaker 5: is that imagine or was that future?
Speaker 1: Who made this? Is Davis?
Speaker 6: I don't see right now, I'm gonna lose, Okay.
Speaker 3: Jeff, Jeff knows the different leanings of those magazines a
Speaker 3: little bit of.
Speaker 2: And this is it's not pouring, Dan, you can just
Speaker 2: Yeahka just tells you to start though.
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, this is oh cool.
Speaker 6: Imagine Bill don hughes On here yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Okay. And this is according to PSM magazine, right, yes, got.
Speaker 2: October twenty He said it's the company that would was
Speaker 2: starting I g in at this time.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, all right, let's start with mister Minati. Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm going to suggest Metal Gear Solid.
Speaker 6: Metal Solid is the number one PlayStation game of all time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, would also like to suggest a final Fantasy seven.
Speaker 5: Final Fantasy seven is the twelfth greatest PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Wow, I thought that would be in the top ten.
Speaker 6: I can guess as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, yes, one, yes, one, Okay, mister backlar.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Crash Bandicoot all right, crash Bandicoot is maybe you can
Speaker 5: give me both at the same time. So as I'm scanning,
Speaker 5: I can and Silent Hill okay, crash Bandicoot and Silent Hill.
Speaker 5: Silent Hill is the fifteenth best PlayStation game of all times.
Speaker 5: Pretty high for so Hill one before Hill two though,
Speaker 5: singing crash Bandy there's okay, hang on, I.
Speaker 3: Wonder if they might put do the sequels higher than
Speaker 3: the original.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm scanning. I'm scanning. I've looked at all
Speaker 5: of them. I'm just seeing if I missed anything.
Speaker 1: It's already.
Speaker 6: I mean, do any of them right, let's just do
Speaker 6: that way, okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Crash Bandicoot Warped is the tenth best place station. Crash
Speaker 5: Team Racing is the twenty eighth best PlayStation.
Speaker 1: Oh you got two? What number DAN for CTR?
Speaker 5: CTR is twenty eight? So we'll go buy those rules too.
Speaker 5: So if if you say like a series or whatever.
Speaker 5: I'll just go ahead and going forward.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, okay, mister Grubb, well wait a second. He
Speaker 3: wanted to look right now for the other Final Fantasy
Speaker 3: because I feel like a nine and the.
Speaker 1: Should just do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's showing up thereats.
Speaker 6: Tactics is nineteen.
Speaker 1: Oh, Tactics made it.
Speaker 3: That's great, So.
Speaker 5: Tactics at nineteen. Final Fantasy eight is number twenty one.
Speaker 3: W this was this was before and nine was reconsidered
Speaker 3: and is everybody's favorite back then. I think no hard Nope.
Speaker 6: Final Fantsay nine is the sixth The best PlayStation is.
Speaker 1: A good list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it kind of I feel like Roger Burt
Speaker 2: Show was writing for this magazine.
Speaker 3: He was a huge ARPG guy. He probably would have
Speaker 3: been right there.
Speaker 2: Okay, then let's go with I'll just say the specific
Speaker 2: ones I'm thinking of, but you can check the whole
Speaker 2: thing Resident Evil too.
Speaker 6: That is the fourth best PlayStation game.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds right. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like split between Tony Hawk or Castlevania simply
Speaker 2: of the Night. I'm gonna go for Castlevania Symphony of
Speaker 2: the Night because I think I think I think it
Speaker 2: was being real reprised right in this moment.
Speaker 1: Is the third best. Yeah, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Dan, what about uh I guess any
Speaker 1: twisted Metal game? Oh, that'd be way up there on
Speaker 1: mine the twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Black isn't out yet, so.
Speaker 6: Folks, I don't see a twisted Metal game on this.
Speaker 1: I don't forget.
Speaker 3: At this point, we had like just about three and
Speaker 3: four people had soured on the series.
Speaker 5: But the Middle Black game out that summer, which I
Speaker 5: think would have been for that summer. Oh you know
Speaker 5: what this does say PS one all time. It did
Speaker 5: not say that. It just has PlayStation up here. But
Speaker 5: this is just PS one.
Speaker 1: Yeah I figured twist but yeah, okay, gotcha, Okay, second one. Gosh,
Speaker 1: if they had tactics on here. I'm gonna take another
Speaker 1: shot in the dark for other RPG the PS one, Dan,
Speaker 1: show me legend of the Dragoon.
Speaker 6: Legend of Dragoon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be there, could be there.
Speaker 6: I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking.
Speaker 1: It is the fortieth best place, okay, job, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, we got there. Legend of Dragoon might be
Speaker 1: Mikey back to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely give me a grint charisma too.
Speaker 6: Ah, good choice, let's go. And you're looking at the chat.
Speaker 3: I'm looking look at the chat. Look, I know my
Speaker 3: PS one and then some of the Uh, here's a
Speaker 3: series we haven't said yet. Yeah, I know, but I
Speaker 3: think I'm going to go with a parasite Eve.
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, interesting choice here, Wow, folks, Parasite Eve did
Speaker 5: not make the list.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's fifty better P one games
Speaker 3: and pairs?
Speaker 1: But maybe do we it was my turn? Did we
Speaker 1: not get the number two? No, you do not, so
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Let me give you resideval because we already did mention
Speaker 5: the resideval two. So three is number twenty nine?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And then four wasn't on it?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 2: And to be fair, I forgot we said right, that
Speaker 2: was the big franchise I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: Ye, yes you did. Yeah, I know. Listen, I'm a
Speaker 1: bad person.
Speaker 4: I think number two is probably it could be Tony Hawk.
Speaker 1: It has to be, right, doesn't.
Speaker 5: I think there's a pro skater two is gonna be
Speaker 5: Skater two is number nine? Okay, Okay, I feel like
Speaker 5: we can go to like a group if you just
Speaker 5: want to call him out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then my other one was going to be
Speaker 4: snipher and filter.
Speaker 6: Oh interest filter. Good choice is gotta be on here, right?
Speaker 3: That was a big one, kind of if it's not there,
Speaker 3: just you know, throwing tech.
Speaker 6: And three hang on real quick, resident Evil. The first
Speaker 6: one is number forty two.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, there's got to be a tech and three
Speaker 5: up there. I don't see siphon filter. I do not
Speaker 5: see sicher filter. Nope, where's taking three? Number eleven?
Speaker 3: I know, all right, I know a spiral game.
Speaker 1: I think the original spiral of the Dragon beable.
Speaker 6: I mean, Revenge Year Dragon is number twenty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, is that the.
Speaker 6: More spir Oh uh, that's the only spiral.
Speaker 1: Okay? What was that one vagrant story? I don't see.
Speaker 1: They don't know really, dude.
Speaker 3: It has been like it would have been.
Speaker 1: Kind of soon for that. Oh okay, I have too
Speaker 1: go akay uh.
Speaker 6: PaRappa Parapa is number seventeen.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, my two were wipeout real quick.
Speaker 6: I do want to say I'll count Jammer as part
Speaker 6: of the Parapa series. That's number sixteen.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: Greb comes in with wipeout, which is no, no.
Speaker 1: That was Backler.
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, get you guys mixed up. Fourteen is wipeout
Speaker 5: xl okay.
Speaker 3: And then my other one was soul Reaver.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, I'm sorry, siphon filter is on here. It
Speaker 5: was number thirty six. Sorry, okay, soul Reaver Legacy of Kine.
Speaker 3: No, get the frick out of here.
Speaker 6: Alright, let's's top ten. Nope, it's not.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's stick to the taking turns just because
Speaker 1: we're stepping on each other. But g drop three games. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see here.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to like think outside the box that number
Speaker 2: two to be I know, turmb Raider two.
Speaker 6: Look at the series you would think, so.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 2: To me, it's like I could be weird for even
Speaker 2: by Dan for them to still be like kind of
Speaker 2: glazing tum Raider.
Speaker 5: But number thirty seven is tomb Raider. The last revelation
Speaker 5: that was three or four?
Speaker 1: No, three like four four four.
Speaker 6: Mm hm four is the only tomb Raider on this list.
Speaker 6: That's weird.
Speaker 3: I think I have a good one.
Speaker 1: Hang on, let me, let's let me do a couple. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you have a good one.
Speaker 3: Could just go that's fine because this guy likes RPGs.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe Zeno Gears is this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the definite staff list. I would imagine
Speaker 5: Zeno Gears is number twenty.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, sorry, okay.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought my confidence was unfounded. A Kronocross
Speaker 3: thirty three. Oh, okay, there's a lot more RPGs here
Speaker 3: than I thought.
Speaker 1: Third, Hey, the I G the Imagine staff are rpg weird,
Speaker 1: Yes for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you are a PS one magazine, you better
Speaker 3: like j RPGs.
Speaker 6: Actually, there are still three from the top ten that
Speaker 6: are not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is that's driving me crazy. We are so
Speaker 2: vagrant pars legend is the wild.
Speaker 5: Arms, Yeah, wild quite a while. There's another real just
Speaker 5: doesn't check wild Arms.
Speaker 6: No wild Arms.
Speaker 3: There's a real sick o jerap. We have may sweak
Speaker 3: it in two.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 3: It might not have been like it might not have
Speaker 3: risen to that cult status at this point yet though.
Speaker 6: Uh that is number thirteen.
Speaker 1: Okay okay. Oh, is there is there a sports game
Speaker 1: like a Big One? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Game Day Madden O two for the PS one is eighteen.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 6: I definitely play the m POS two.
Speaker 1: Weird Driver oh oh yeah, very good choice.
Speaker 3: That's gotta be there. Oh yeah, barely Jesus.
Speaker 1: It does seem like in general they're doing like one
Speaker 1: entry per series. Okay.
Speaker 5: Oh they're saying if games of a series are different enough,
Speaker 5: more than one may appear on the list.
Speaker 6: But they're saying, like with like tech and they just
Speaker 6: took one.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this one did just show up and chat.
Speaker 2: I did just glance, but I was thinking this one.
Speaker 1: Let's can we just check ape escape?
Speaker 3: That's just wondering.
Speaker 2: I was one of that number two, number two. That's
Speaker 2: pretty high. Yeah, we still have a seven and eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah are they Ridge racer Type four freaks?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Number eight one a good list, good list, this list.
Speaker 1: That was number yeah, that's my favorite number.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mikey, back to you. Give me two more stretches.
Speaker 3: Are type four? Okay, back to me two more. It
Speaker 3: is it is getting to a point where, boy, those
Speaker 3: are some really big impactful ones.
Speaker 5: That we have up there, and at a certain point
Speaker 5: when you went throw on the towel, I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: read it from the bottom up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: One just just just to just pipe up at this
Speaker 3: time because yeah, now I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: Wait. Abes Odyssey. Oh good call, okay, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: I got one before we go to uh just made
Speaker 1: I got more, all right? Was AME's Odyssey on the
Speaker 1: top fifty? Dan World? Oh wow? Okay, this has to
Speaker 1: be on there based off of like the other games
Speaker 1: on there, guys, bless thee.
Speaker 3: I bet game it's not though. That makes me think
Speaker 3: of another game that should be on.
Speaker 5: It, which, okay, guys, is not. But I think Mike
Speaker 5: is about to guess number forty four.
Speaker 1: I hander, yes, I thought.
Speaker 3: Games games that are related except their names are exactly
Speaker 3: the same to me.
Speaker 1: Where rival schools? Dan did? How about Bashido Blade?
Speaker 6: Blade is number fifty? No rival schools, No rival schools?
Speaker 1: But any other any other ones that we want to Knowah?
Speaker 6: Yes, I saw that earlier. That is number twenty four.
Speaker 3: Okay, good showing for Clinoa there. I want to look
Speaker 3: at my collection real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's uh, let's get one or two more
Speaker 1: from everyone and then let's just get through the list.
Speaker 3: Was there a Spider Man?
Speaker 1: They were not bad?
Speaker 6: Those are the never soft ones. I don't think that's
Speaker 6: on here.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm probably not gonna make him. I liked
Speaker 3: that game a lot. Actually, yeah, I love that. I
Speaker 3: did look at chat.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 3: But Star Ocean two.
Speaker 1: Did that make it? No, it didn't know. Vib ribbon No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's surprising.
Speaker 3: You can't funk around with mister Domino whatever it was called.
Speaker 1: No, No, incredible crisis unfortunately. No.
Speaker 6: Conny Warris, oh, Connie Wars that.
Speaker 1: Critics love that.
Speaker 5: There were forty five Colonie Wurrison police. All right for me,
Speaker 5: right back, okay, mega man legends, I don't remember seeing that.
Speaker 6: No, let's do this.
Speaker 3: Wild that we're missing one.
Speaker 1: The top was there?
Speaker 4: There was a there was a grand theft auto right, yeah,
Speaker 4: but that serious were the top down?
Speaker 1: Super not really?
Speaker 6: Maybe on there no associated with PlayStation enough, I guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, jet Moto, Oh that's a good guest.
Speaker 6: Thereto to not here, that fell off pretty quick.
Speaker 5: NFL blitz Nope, No, but that, yeah, Jan start from
Speaker 5: the bottom up. Call out blank numbers and I'll tell
Speaker 5: you what they are, all right, Uh forty nine Vigilante eight,
Speaker 5: gilt eight.
Speaker 3: Wait we say that blasphemy, didn't we say that there
Speaker 3: wasn't a Twisted Metal on this list. Yeah what you said? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's crazy, that's incrazy.
Speaker 1: All right, forty seven ten chu oho you eventually? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right? Hit me with forty six and forty three
Speaker 1: Soul Blaze in Fear Effect retro Helix, the Lesbian Game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are actually kind of impressive poles. He is
Speaker 2: jumping Flash two in the top ten.
Speaker 1: It should be.
Speaker 6: We're going up from bottom up.
Speaker 1: Okay, alright, alright, right, let's go to forty one alone
Speaker 1: in the Dark four. What they got to four? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they ever.
Speaker 3: Number two wait above Resident Evil one, saying yep.
Speaker 5: There's one above Resident Evil one that is Infogrames June
Speaker 5: two thousand and one alone in the Dark four.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, hold on, I love soul Blade, but Einhander
Speaker 1: above Soul Blade.
Speaker 6: That's correct.
Speaker 3: Oh Okayander, I could see Ironhander above, So maybe top ten,
Speaker 3: chen absolutely, yeah, I don't know about guys.
Speaker 1: No, If who is guys, it'd be top fifteen, okay,
Speaker 1: Dan hit me with thirty eight and thirty or thirty nine.
Speaker 5: Thirty eight, thirty nine is Colin mc ray rally, oh
Speaker 5: of course, and thirty eight is ray Man two.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I never.
Speaker 3: Think ray Man, I never think that's as one game.
Speaker 1: Yeah or og raymn for sure. Dan, thirty five, thirty
Speaker 1: four please.
Speaker 6: Thirty five is Breath of Fire four?
Speaker 1: Yeah it could have gone. Okay, that's Roger Burchill. Definitely
Speaker 1: we worked on this list.
Speaker 6: It's a thirty four. Thirty four is Dino Crisis.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we missed that's so wait Dino Crisis, but
Speaker 3: no Parasite Eve.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, a little a little strange or vagan sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Dan hit me with thirty two, thirty one
Speaker 1: and thirty thirty two is Ace Combat two. She should
Speaker 1: have got at Yes, yeah, that's a great game. Yep,
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 5: Thirty one one Grandia, Oh okay, in thirty how did
Speaker 5: you guys miss this?
Speaker 1: Roll Cage Stage two? The hell is that?
Speaker 3: What that?
Speaker 1: It's PlayStation game of all time? Jan I retire.
Speaker 3: You're right, this is Champ is better than Parasite Eve.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you just said.
Speaker 5: Old Cage stage two number Cage's extreame g but bat
Speaker 5: when your cover looks like that, you get number thirty
Speaker 5: is Roll Cage Stage two.
Speaker 1: This is not what I thought it was. Gonna game
Speaker 1: actually looks pretty al right, okay, keep going alright, left
Speaker 1: that we haven't picked, okay, Dan, hit me with twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty six and twenty five.
Speaker 6: Twenty seven is FEEFA two thousand and one okay, okay,
Speaker 6: twenty six is need for Speed three Hot Pursuit okay, speed?
Speaker 1: And what was next?
Speaker 6: Five five Medal of Honor two.
Speaker 5: Underground alright, twenty three that would be Super puzzle Fighter too, Okay, Wow, cool, okay,
Speaker 5: there's only one left, all right, number seven, Dan, I
Speaker 5: feel like Mikey should have got this out of all
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 3: It wasn't Is it a Mega Man X four or something?
Speaker 6: Street Fighter Alpha three?
Speaker 3: Okay, I was wondering, Yeah, okay, yeah, probably should have. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we should have said street Fighter Also, X four should
Speaker 3: be on this list.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's the list. I agree. No Legends weird.
Speaker 3: No Legends was not super well liked that at that time. Honestly,
Speaker 3: this came.
Speaker 6: Out when October two thousand and one, which.
Speaker 4: Means they probably rode it in May. It was, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: and then nine eleven happened, sure of course.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was pretty comprehensive of the whole PlayStation
Speaker 5: one era outside of.
Speaker 6: Like the sports games they released until like oh five
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's an interesting list for sure.
Speaker 5: Apes of two is crazy to me would have been
Speaker 5: metal Gear in Final Fantasy seven, and so for f
Speaker 5: F seven to be down at twelve is kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: That they are right that Night's better than it. I
Speaker 3: just I usually whom that seven is going to be
Speaker 3: put higher than that? I like, Yeah, I'm impressed, like
Speaker 3: Register Type four being at number eight, That's that's right,
Speaker 3: RESI Evil two of four, that's right, Cynthy and Night
Speaker 3: at three, that's right. There's nothing too crazy. There's some
Speaker 3: admissions that seem a little whild to be like a
Speaker 3: parasite of like a vagrant.
Speaker 6: Story alone of Dark four being above Resniva one is
Speaker 6: pretty insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bizarre. Yeah, yeah. I do like seeing how
Speaker 1: high the O G Silent Hill is on this list though,
Speaker 1: So that's that's cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 6: List for sure, which is you know, kind of what
Speaker 6: you go for when you make these.
Speaker 1: No jet Moto I'm kind of surprised by, but it's
Speaker 1: almost likely. You're right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an early when I think like early
Speaker 5: PlayStation one, I think of single track. I think of
Speaker 5: you know, Warhawk, Twisted Middle one, Twist Middle two and
Speaker 5: Jet Moto, and like Jet Moto pretty quickly. It might
Speaker 5: have been around the same kid the Twisted Metal went
Speaker 5: Downhill with the nine eighty nine changeover. But yeah, people
Speaker 5: forgot about Jet Modo pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, okay, that's right, hex Proof. It's an atrocity
Speaker 1: that there are no golf games on hill. What the
Speaker 1: well the best ball game was on the Saturn. It's
Speaker 1: main competitor, it's made competitors. Yeah, all right, folks, you
Speaker 1: know with old games, let's uh, let's talk about stuff
Speaker 1: we've been playing. I don't like good games, no, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Now I'm I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: looking up how to play roll Cage Stage two, remember.
Speaker 6: And it was made by Midway, it says, So it's
Speaker 6: like that checking out. I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn.
Speaker 2: You can't play old games on your own time, though,
Speaker 2: You got to play new games to do your job here.
Speaker 2: All right, that's good, that's clearly, that's good.
Speaker 6: That's a joke for me, man.
Speaker 1: Now, I just want to go play a bunch of JRPGs.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot Gang good. They're very good. I think
Speaker 1: that's why Press the Fire for is good. It's overrated,
Speaker 1: little over yeah, a little overrated. All right, we got
Speaker 1: a jar with the games here, So let's start with
Speaker 1: a game that just that someone finished and they said
Speaker 1: they have a note here, real quick, mister backl Are
Speaker 1: you finished Kronos?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I finished. I don't want to take a
Speaker 3: lot of time talking about it. I finished Kronos.
Speaker 4: I then had to watch a YouTube summary of the
Speaker 4: story because it is almost unfollowing. Yeah, yeah, I wish,
Speaker 4: I wish. I don't know, I can't. Maybe this is
Speaker 4: a larger issue of is can Jeff just simply not
Speaker 4: pay attention to some stories and games anymore?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm sort of struggling with that a
Speaker 4: little bit. Uh in Silent Hill f as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We could talk more about that in a second. But
Speaker 4: I did finish Kronos, and I and I am mostly
Speaker 4: happy with it. I do encourage people to play it now.
Speaker 4: It is a very scary, very spooky game that is
Speaker 4: very ambitious with its storytelling.
Speaker 3: But believe me, I did it.
Speaker 4: I didn't think I could do it, So thank you
Speaker 4: to all the people who said I could You allowed.
Speaker 3: Me to persevere and see it through and that means
Speaker 3: a great deal to me, and for that, I thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, good the question for you?
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're playing this and Silent Hill F. And
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna talk about that in a second.
Speaker 2: But if I was gonna pick one of these to
Speaker 2: play for October, which one would you recommend?
Speaker 4: At this I think I think the better complete package
Speaker 4: is Silent Hill F.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It's also like eight to ten hours, which sounds real
Speaker 2: good to me right here after playing so many games
Speaker 2: that I'm like twenty plus hours into.
Speaker 4: And we could just parlay this right into the F
Speaker 4: conversation if you don't mind, Jen, I think go from's
Speaker 4: talking to a super eyepatch. Well, I'm talking to John
Speaker 4: about Silent Hill F and He's like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 4: got to play it four times? And I was just like,
Speaker 4: who the fuck are you that's gonna play Silent Hill
Speaker 4: F four times to see all these different endings.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't understand how you can do that. I'm like,
Speaker 4: don't you have a video to make about Garfield or something?
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna tell me, you can play Silent Hill.
Speaker 1: F yeah, Simpsons right now, we gotta know.
Speaker 4: I'm like, please, I need you to make videos and
Speaker 4: not play this game eleven times?
Speaker 2: So uh in your automatic Like is it automic?
Speaker 3: No, it's even like cause Naro not has the different endings,
Speaker 3: but it's really kind of a linear progression through the right.
Speaker 3: It's like Silent Hill too, where depending on your choices
Speaker 3: you get different ending and like the people who really
Speaker 3: like the series, they're like, well, I gotta see all them.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna watch them on YouTube, is what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I watch I just watch them on YouTube and get
Speaker 2: the same effect, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I just, you know, there's if there's a lot of
Speaker 4: like for me, you do you guys, what do you
Speaker 4: call it? When you're just like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 4: this is exclusive to me. Like there's the there's this
Speaker 4: thing I have where I'm just like map slopping where
Speaker 4: I'm just like constantly looking at the map like sure
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like in this labyrinthinian area and I'm just.
Speaker 3: Sort of like, whereas what's you always left?
Speaker 1: Where's left?
Speaker 3: Like come left?
Speaker 4: Where am I facing where's my arrow facing?
Speaker 1: I have to go up? Okay, I'm you know, like
Speaker 1: getting old Becklow. I have the same thing because it's
Speaker 1: always been that for me.
Speaker 3: That's always been that for me with these games. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like if you have like Google Maps
Speaker 4: in your car and you're not doing north, You're not
Speaker 4: doing like up is always up right. That's obviously not
Speaker 4: always know, but like I need that. I need that
Speaker 4: sort of constant positioning awareness to show me up right.
Speaker 4: Like that's how I coordinate myself, That's how I yeah, right,
Speaker 4: exactly what's up?
Speaker 3: Just everyone's chat saying apparently like the new game plus
Speaker 3: stuff is more than just a different ending. So I
Speaker 3: guess I bet it's very interesting to play the game
Speaker 3: more than once. You need to to feel like you
Speaker 3: got feel experience a full experience there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I look, I'm happy to I'm happy
Speaker 4: to have it. I'm happy that the value is there,
Speaker 4: I'm happy that the replayability is there. I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: never gonna like look that across in the face, but
Speaker 4: it's like, I I can't do that with your game,
Speaker 4: especially in such a densely.
Speaker 3: Packed fifteen games. I need to do baby Steps.
Speaker 4: I haven't even done anything outside of that unfinished baby steps.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? You're the baby Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 3: take some steps.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 4: I really do like Silent Hill. I think it is
Speaker 4: is really good. Say for like maybe one or two
Speaker 4: areas where I'm just like, all right, we this is
Speaker 4: maybe a little repetitive, but yeah, I'm super into.
Speaker 3: What do you What do you think, Mike? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I checked out maybe the first three hours or so
Speaker 3: and was definitely enjoying myself.
Speaker 1: I love just the setting.
Speaker 3: Anytime something is said in that very rural kind of Japan,
Speaker 3: which for me is basically just this persona flour in
Speaker 3: my neighbor totoro.
Speaker 1: Those are the three things I associate to say.
Speaker 3: But I always really like it. It's a very interesting
Speaker 3: kind of vibe and aesthetic. But yeah, I see people
Speaker 3: talk about the combat and some people complain about it.
Speaker 3: I love it all specifically because it's kind of clunky
Speaker 3: and not sophisticated, just like how it should feel for
Speaker 3: just some you know Japanese schoolgirl who's wielding a pipe.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, it's not dark souls, it's not some
Speaker 1: you know, intense action game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you off combos, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just kind of swinging shit the kids.
Speaker 3: It's just a little kid. But even though there is
Speaker 3: still like good mechanics to it and good kind of
Speaker 3: game logic and reasoning there without it necessarily devolving to
Speaker 3: just oh it's dark souls or you know, oh it's
Speaker 3: it's this or that. I was actually surprised how good,
Speaker 3: Like I did like a big boss fight right where
Speaker 3: I just actually had a whole boss encounter situation going on.
Speaker 3: There are some fun gimmicks, especially with him disappearing and
Speaker 3: kind of reappearing somewhere. I had to like listen for
Speaker 3: him and find him and hit him before he got
Speaker 3: off some attack. I was like, jeez, this is a
Speaker 3: pretty good boss fight, which, you know, sound Hill has
Speaker 3: actually not been bad at that. The sound Hill two
Speaker 3: roommake had some good ones too, but sometimes you don't
Speaker 3: necessarily associate Silent Hill with bosses. Having a good experience
Speaker 3: there was nice. But yeah, I'm just kind of I'm
Speaker 3: loving the whole sort of vibe, the whole setup, The
Speaker 3: story is intriguing, you know, I think the themes skirt
Speaker 3: a fine line of being pretty obvious or what they are,
Speaker 3: but not feeling spoon fed at the same time.
Speaker 1: So all of that is good.
Speaker 3: I'm excited someone play more. It feels like a perfect
Speaker 3: little October game. I don't mean little disparagingly, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's a great game for this season.
Speaker 1: I will say this may be spoilers for some people,
Speaker 1: but I'll just keep it as vague as possible. And
Speaker 1: for folks that have already completed Silent Hill f you
Speaker 1: will be well aware that this game actually shares a
Speaker 1: lot with Sonic Unleashed. And that's all I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: I can't play it now.
Speaker 1: You just ruined it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a spoiler the entire experience for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you put that on the back
Speaker 1: of the box, you know. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: People won't buy it. They're like, why do I even
Speaker 2: need to play it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: That's what a detour?
Speaker 1: Is that? The way with the wear hoog? Yeah, Jeff
Speaker 1: Grubb speaking about beating games, You're not the backlar. Isn't
Speaker 1: the only Jeff finishing games? You conquered baby Steps? Yeah
Speaker 1: this morning?
Speaker 2: Actually, so I had spent several streams in the morning
Speaker 2: here on Giant Bomb, trying to conquered the Man Breaker,
Speaker 2: which is this big mountain where they they give you
Speaker 2: the option to go up the stairs, and that was
Speaker 2: a really powerful, awesome thing to do, and it was
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun to actually get through there.
Speaker 2: And then there's a little bit more after that. There's
Speaker 2: apparently a couple paths you can go to get up
Speaker 2: to this final bit of the mountain. But the option
Speaker 2: I found myself taking without what even knowing was an option,
Speaker 2: It just felt like the way to go was this
Speaker 2: crash train. It's an uncharted two and it's got a
Speaker 2: bunch of luggage over the place and you got to
Speaker 2: get your foot in on there. But because it's because
Speaker 2: you're inside and it's at a slant, it like really
Speaker 2: is disorienting because you just feel like, okay, am I
Speaker 2: standing upright and it's like, oh no, I'm going to
Speaker 2: lean to the left here. That was a lot of
Speaker 2: fun to get through, although kind of a little bit
Speaker 2: child's play after the Man Breaker, which was welcome. After that,
Speaker 2: there's just like a small little snow section. A guy
Speaker 2: gets trapped under a boulder in a cave and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, I get to talk to him. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you eventually get up this mountain and you go into
Speaker 2: a house and you're one of the people that you've
Speaker 2: been there talking to the whole time, is in this
Speaker 2: house cabin, and it just has this such a sweet
Speaker 2: ending of Nate is this character that you're playing as,
Speaker 2: and every conversation he has, he's just trying to get
Speaker 2: out of it. He doesn't want to bother anyone. He
Speaker 2: doesn't feel worthy of anyone's time. He doesn't like feel
Speaker 2: like he's like worthy of any space at all. Actually,
Speaker 2: and the game ends with you knocking on this cabin
Speaker 2: door and just being afraid still but kind of you
Speaker 2: could see he's working up his courage and finally he
Speaker 2: just asks, Hey, can I come inside? He finally asks
Speaker 2: for help, and it was a really like moving, powerful
Speaker 2: moment for this character that just can't get his shit
Speaker 2: together at all. But you I walked ninety thousand steps.
Speaker 2: The game told me ninety thousand steps to get to
Speaker 2: the end of this game, and you know, he did
Speaker 2: all that. He actually did accomplish all that, he did
Speaker 2: conquer the Man Breaker, he did get through all these things,
Speaker 2: and so he kind of is capable, but the thing
Speaker 2: that was hardest for him was just asking for help
Speaker 2: and it hit real hard.
Speaker 1: And so get through that with chat this morning, and
Speaker 1: I just I love this game.
Speaker 2: It is so well done and it's it definitely feels
Speaker 2: like the right way to make one of these right now,
Speaker 2: where sure it's punishing, but it's not as punishing as
Speaker 2: something like Getting Over It, where Getting Over It is
Speaker 2: another Benetfotty game where you're in the pot and you
Speaker 2: have the hammer and you're swinging around trying to like
Speaker 2: pull yourself up, and you could fail in that game
Speaker 2: to the point where you could really do at any moment,
Speaker 2: can fall all the way back to the beginning. Here,
Speaker 2: it's like usually you could fall a long way, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna be to a certain like relative checkpoint. And
Speaker 2: even when you do that, the game remains funny, It
Speaker 2: remains fun to play. You always feel like you are
Speaker 2: kind of learning something, and so it feels like the
Speaker 2: most broadly appealing one of these that has been made,
Speaker 2: Like it feels like it's made by people who's done
Speaker 2: who have done this many times before and have learned
Speaker 2: a lot of lessons and know now how to deliver
Speaker 2: on this idea in a way that is fair but
Speaker 2: also still brutal, in a way that's very, very fun
Speaker 2: to watch. Yeah, it's a game that should have made
Speaker 2: me rage a lot more than it did. And I
Speaker 2: found myself just kind of being like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to try again, and and yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: up there for me, I am really impressed with it,
Speaker 2: really happy with it.
Speaker 4: How did you find again, I'm only coming from the
Speaker 4: first time we touched it, but like, how did you
Speaker 4: find the sort of like understanding of like what you're
Speaker 4: really meant to do? Because I feel like, for me,
Speaker 4: you know this game, I have not been able to
Speaker 4: isolate myself from seeing more, you know, videos about it.
Speaker 4: Obviously you playing it, how do you feel about how
Speaker 4: all that was presented and whether or not you think
Speaker 4: it's a really like satisfying way to be presented with
Speaker 4: the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so, yeah, it's it can be discouraging at
Speaker 2: first because you don't know where you're going and you
Speaker 2: feel lost. Eventually, though, that very quickly settles into being like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's part of what's happening here. It's not just that
Speaker 2: he's bad at walking. He's bad at walking and also
Speaker 2: doesn't know where to go, and it's like, these these
Speaker 2: dual factors working against the character are are really the
Speaker 2: both things to be overcome, and it's like, well, what
Speaker 2: do you do to solve this? I guess I could
Speaker 2: try to like I can go look it up, or
Speaker 2: I could just keep walking forward and see if I
Speaker 2: eventually figure something out. Now, the game does sort of
Speaker 2: offer up some interesting ways of making you feel like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I do start going forward, even if I might
Speaker 2: not know if I'm going the right way, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: going the wrong way.
Speaker 1: There is a chance.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's allowsy with this stuff, but there's
Speaker 2: a chance you're going to run into some cut scene
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't have seen had you not gone the
Speaker 2: wrong way, and that's really well done. So there's one
Speaker 2: early on where I was super lost. There's point in
Speaker 2: the kind of funny race where both me and snowbike
Speaker 2: Mic are trying to find out where to go, and
Speaker 2: we're like neck and neck, and I went to the
Speaker 2: left and he went to the right, and I was
Speaker 2: stuck at this place because I didn't see the pathway
Speaker 2: to the left for a very long time. So I
Speaker 2: was going around the map and it loops. It's a
Speaker 2: complete sphere. So you go from you go to one
Speaker 2: side of the map, you go one more step and
Speaker 2: now you're on the far left side of the map.
Speaker 3: You can't tell that.
Speaker 2: When you're actually in the game, but there's a map
Speaker 2: later that kind of showed you that's what was happening.
Speaker 2: I was doing that over and over again, and I
Speaker 2: got to this like sand cast or this giant sand cast,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, let me get to the top of this,
Speaker 2: see if there's anything up there. And the only thing
Speaker 2: up there was two little naked men who just kind
Speaker 2: of yelled at me, and I sat on one of
Speaker 2: them on accident, and it was hilarious. They were all
Speaker 2: voiced by Bennett Foddy. That's and finding that felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's own reward, and there's a ton of that stuff.
Speaker 2: There's so many hilarious cut scenes. I think that's the
Speaker 2: thing the humor for me for a long time. I
Speaker 2: guess not for a long time. For that first couple
Speaker 2: of play sessions, I was like, this is funny, but
Speaker 2: I'm not laughing out loud. It just keeps getting so
Speaker 2: much more absurd, and you start to realize, oh, they're
Speaker 2: improving this, and they're kind of just leaving in the
Speaker 2: rough cuts of them laughing over each other's lines, and
Speaker 2: it's super endearing. And trying to like not even trying
Speaker 2: to find the next one of those, but thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: I might find another one of those as I continue
Speaker 2: was more than enough to make everything kind of feel
Speaker 2: worth it. And then occasionally I'll find a cool little
Speaker 2: puzzle segment where it's like, here is just a little
Speaker 2: tower that you got to climb to the top of
Speaker 2: and you'll either get a hat that either does nothing
Speaker 2: or does something cool, or a fruit he yells about
Speaker 2: finding a parse simon or whatever it's called, and that's
Speaker 2: exciting as well. So I think it's like happy to
Speaker 2: be the game it is, which is you should feel lost,
Speaker 2: you should feel overwhelmed by every ticking, every step, but
Speaker 2: it's not so harsh that it's never gonna make you
Speaker 2: feel like you didn't get a reward.
Speaker 1: It has that pretty often cool awesome right now. God,
Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd have to check this out before
Speaker 1: Game of the Year time, but I guess I got it.
Speaker 2: It's very much a me game, Like it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be out there on the streets trying to
Speaker 2: hawk this to everybody. But I definitely see a lot
Speaker 2: of people in chat when I was playing, being like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna try this out, and I've been watching
Speaker 2: you play and it actually won me over, Like watching
Speaker 2: this game be played, and it's like, I think there's
Speaker 2: more to this game than like it's open. Critic Score says,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you know, it's not for everybody, but
Speaker 2: the people who it's four are really gonna like it.
Speaker 2: It's definitely in this like certain classic games for me,
Speaker 2: with like Octo Dead, where it's about moving a character
Speaker 2: in a weird way, but it's telling a lot more
Speaker 2: about like human nature and about your nature as a
Speaker 2: player than you might even realize.
Speaker 1: Fantastic of Fantastic, speaking about overwhelming, I have been enjoying,
Speaker 1: but I've found Ghost of Yota be very, very overwhelming. Dan,
Speaker 1: you talked about this a little bit last week on
Speaker 1: the podcast because the embargo lifted and I had reserved
Speaker 1: to myself that I wasn't going to check out Ghost
Speaker 1: of Yota until the holidays, because we've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about holiday kind of games, and this feels like one
Speaker 1: you have to really sink your teeth into. And I'll
Speaker 1: say this up top, I did not like Ghost of Tsushima.
Speaker 1: Did not click with it at all. I don't quite
Speaker 1: know why. Maybe I was expecting like different style of combat.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was looking for a seci row at the time.
Speaker 1: But something about this and maybe it is God, I
Speaker 1: really forget her name, but the character that Erica plays,
Speaker 1: and just like the characterization, I think it just it
Speaker 1: hits a bit better. Maybe I'm digging the setup to
Speaker 1: the story. But damn game, pretty game look good.
Speaker 6: You all game pretty It's really it's unbelievably gorgeous.
Speaker 5: And like, Jan, how are you finding like the open
Speaker 5: world because it's got those elements from the first one,
Speaker 5: with like the wind taking from place to place. But
Speaker 5: I am finding myself just enjoying that open world a
Speaker 5: lot more than Sushima.
Speaker 1: I think that that's what I might be enjoying more.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the friction I'm encountering though, is that,
Speaker 1: like I do enjoy the open world more, but because
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the open world more, it's kind of stalling
Speaker 1: my overall progress in it. Sure, and this game just
Speaker 1: is full of like the different cinematic styles you can
Speaker 1: throw the game into. I tried playing it in black
Speaker 1: and white for a second, but then again, game two
Speaker 1: pretty to limit yourself to grayscale. Just like the effect
Speaker 1: that they have with like the Ginka leaves and everything,
Speaker 1: like as you're like trapesing through the fields. Absolutely gorgeous
Speaker 1: and I just want to cook every single thing.
Speaker 6: Also the duels and see how you're blown into the microphone.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh. And it's kind of a bummer that
Speaker 1: this game uses the dual sense so well, because what
Speaker 1: is the last game y'all would even think using duel sense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly Astro before that, even maybe.
Speaker 3: The ratchet and clanking, Yeah, maybe ratri Yeah. It's great
Speaker 3: when games do use it really well because I actually
Speaker 3: do like a lot of that stuff, even the gimmicky things.
Speaker 3: But a few people really kind of make good use
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 6: I mean, Sucker Bronx loved doing that.
Speaker 5: They did that with the second son I remember the
Speaker 5: first time I used a PS four track pad was
Speaker 5: right checking that out, and like they would have things
Speaker 5: where it's like, oh, swipe up to pull this tank
Speaker 5: up and then shoot into it, and right, they love
Speaker 5: using the hardware like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't have much more to say about a Ghost of
Speaker 1: Yota than you already covered last week, Dan, because I'm
Speaker 1: still fairly early in, but like, I don't I can't
Speaker 1: quite articulate why it is clicking with me more? Can
Speaker 1: I ask this? Because please? He brings us up and chatting.
Speaker 1: This was going to be my question.
Speaker 2: So the first game was very big on hey, we
Speaker 2: were still a video game, so we're gonna have moral choices,
Speaker 2: and you're a Samuraid do you have to be you
Speaker 2: should be honorable? And there was like the father character
Speaker 2: who was like reminded you you should be honorable, and
Speaker 2: then you had the option to be a sneaky little
Speaker 2: assassin guy, but that was dishonorable, and the game was
Speaker 2: saying you were naughty for doing that, or at least
Speaker 2: that's how I read it. I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was actually going through in like punishing you or anything,
Speaker 2: but I certainly felt that way, and I was I'm
Speaker 2: just like out a point where it's like, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna put stuff in a game, let me decide if
Speaker 2: it's good or bad.
Speaker 1: I don't really need that.
Speaker 2: But whatever that was the first game does the second
Speaker 2: game maintain any of that. I guess you do still
Speaker 2: have the choice to be because Dan showed me in
Speaker 2: the Quick Look you can still like do the thing
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, I'm going to announce that I'm
Speaker 2: here as a samurai and do a showdown with a guy,
Speaker 2: which I thought was cool, But I also think I
Speaker 2: want the option to be equally weighted to like go
Speaker 2: be a sneaky little ninja. Does it kind of open
Speaker 2: you up?
Speaker 5: Or what it doesn't like have like a larger system
Speaker 5: that I've seen yet, Like you know, Infamous, you know,
Speaker 5: was very just like you know, blue Glowy Halo guy
Speaker 5: or Red devil horn guy. This is like you will
Speaker 5: come upon certain scenes and stuff not even necessarily tied
Speaker 5: to the story of just like are you gonna loot
Speaker 5: all these corpses and kill the guy who says that
Speaker 5: that's shitty? Or are you gonna like, you know, give
Speaker 5: the guy money and help collect these masks and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. Like there's like clear good and bad choices
Speaker 5: you can make at times, but it doesn't feel like
Speaker 5: it's a gimmick of the game, you know, and like
Speaker 5: there's no one coming in to be like, oh, what'd
Speaker 5: you do that, you know, it's it's not.
Speaker 1: Like that, really, I think that's I actually, I think
Speaker 1: that may be what it is for me where I
Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't play Ghost of Tsushima in a
Speaker 1: way that I want to play, where like I do
Speaker 1: want to be a sneaky little guy sometimes and then
Speaker 1: like if shit hits the fan, just go into a duel.
Speaker 1: But here it's like I guess it's just like cool
Speaker 1: with letting you do it. And I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: the character for there's so many parts of the internet
Speaker 1: that have such a weird boner for Gin from the
Speaker 1: original game about like oh, I can't really their reprice
Speaker 1: Chin and he's not going to be the main character
Speaker 1: for their second one. Fuck off. I find this main
Speaker 1: character to be more of a person anything.
Speaker 2: So it does it does like solve that problem of
Speaker 2: like because she her whole thing is just revenge, right,
Speaker 2: Like she's just out there to like do this, and
Speaker 2: so who cares how you get revenge?
Speaker 1: It frees them up.
Speaker 2: It answers that question of like how do we deal
Speaker 2: with this problem in the first game if it was
Speaker 2: a problem, which I think they've decided by doing it
Speaker 2: this way. In the second game that maybe it was
Speaker 2: something they didn't want to repeat, so maybe not a problem,
Speaker 2: but they wanted to try something different here, and so
Speaker 2: they were gonna need a different character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and anyway, I there's so many games coming out,
Speaker 1: but I do just find myself just firing this up
Speaker 1: and staring at it, just like letting the wind blow.
Speaker 1: And now I think I finally understand Brad Shoemaker.
Speaker 3: Oh no, really, there's just no you don't now, I'm sorry. Samurai.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe you have called him that, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: behind it se yeah, behind the scenes, we would call
Speaker 1: him the last Samurai. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was a biograph biography about him, biography and biograph.
Speaker 1: I think you were there this This might have been
Speaker 1: either my first or second game of the year. But
Speaker 1: Brad had gone on about how how he had enjoyed
Speaker 1: so much of Red Dead Redemption two and just like
Speaker 1: living in the world and kind of just like losing
Speaker 1: time in it. Yeah. Yeah, And then I could easily
Speaker 1: see myself doing that in Ghost of Yote and kind
Speaker 1: of like the same way that that Brad had enjoyed
Speaker 1: all the bits and pieces around the main story of
Speaker 1: Red Dead Redemption two. I can see myself just like
Speaker 1: roaming across the fields and just like basking it in.
Speaker 1: This may be the only instance I will say that
Speaker 1: I think a game sent would be cool for that Jesus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it'd be pretty good for the most part.
Speaker 5: And it's like the whole ship and all that. Than
Speaker 5: I'm with you on the Red Dead two thing, But
Speaker 5: like you know, it does do the thing that like
Speaker 5: makes me like it more than Red Dead two in
Speaker 5: the way that like, if you're writing past a fraud
Speaker 5: is that a word, I don't know, something you can
Speaker 5: pick up.
Speaker 6: You can just hit R two and it just picks
Speaker 6: it up.
Speaker 5: It wears like Red Dead, Get off my horse's fraud,
Speaker 5: you know, like.
Speaker 1: Arthur, you got there, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not a person no nuts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is like not afraid to be
Speaker 5: video gaming in that way where it's like there's some
Speaker 5: quality of life stuff and every once in a while,
Speaker 5: like it's like you don't need to do the cooking
Speaker 5: mini game, we got you, you know, just give you
Speaker 5: a boost, you know.
Speaker 6: So it's not as slavish to that as as Red
Speaker 6: Dead is.
Speaker 1: But the thing this also reminded me of is that
Speaker 1: Assassin's Creed Shadows came out this year. It's oh boy,
Speaker 1: uh not a year in a fair.
Speaker 2: Amount of that, which is one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: I'm not like chopping at the bit to get into OTA,
Speaker 2: which is not fair to Ota, but that's just where
Speaker 2: I'm at.
Speaker 1: I think I may be more of a two D
Speaker 1: Ninja mood because I've yet to check out the Shanoby
Speaker 1: game and Sean super Dan, you were also super high,
Speaker 1: so god, that is on the list. I feel like
Speaker 1: all these games are consuming me. But Dan Reiker, yes,
Speaker 1: you have been playing consume me? I yeah, I started
Speaker 1: it last night. I started it. I didn't really know
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I feel like I saw some like posts about it
Speaker 5: where I was like, it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 5: really narrative games that are probably extremely like like a
Speaker 5: desk Belote or something like that, where it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I can recognize the craft inness, but like, typically I
Speaker 5: don't enjoy playing those type of games, And uh, what's
Speaker 5: that smirk backler, it's the isn't it below te Probably
Speaker 5: I assume no, yes, yes, so, but Bonk was playing it,
Speaker 5: and Banc was really enjoying it and telling me about it,
Speaker 5: and she was like she liking it to Warrio where,
Speaker 5: which is like, oh, okay, I'm immediately interested in now
Speaker 5: with like a lot of little mini games and stuff.
Speaker 5: But then she told me it's it is about disordered eating,
Speaker 5: and that is something I did not realize. That's what
Speaker 5: the game was about. And that is something I learned
Speaker 5: a lot about, you know, over ten years ago when
Speaker 5: I met Bianca, and one of the first things she
Speaker 5: told me was that before meeting me, she had really
Speaker 5: struggled with anorexia. And I didn't really know anything about it.
Speaker 5: I'd never really known anyone that struggled with disordered eating,
Speaker 5: at least to my knowledge, and so yeah, I learned
Speaker 5: a lot about it early on. And it's like it
Speaker 5: was very eye opening in that, like, you know, if
Speaker 5: someone's never experienced anxiety. I've run into these people that
Speaker 5: are like, chill out, what are you worried about it?
Speaker 5: And it's like, yeah, not at works. That's that's not
Speaker 5: how it works at all. I boy, I I'd love
Speaker 5: to just chill out. That'd be great. The same way
Speaker 5: that you know, some people if they hear about annarexia,
Speaker 5: just you a cheezberger. Why don't you just eat a cheeseburger?
Speaker 5: And it's like, through talking to her about it, I
Speaker 5: learned so much about what it is and the control
Speaker 5: factor of it and how it just kind of consumes
Speaker 5: your you're thinking every day. And I remember she I
Speaker 5: read I want to understand it more, and I read
Speaker 5: a Porcetta Rossi's book about it. She was from Arrested Development. Yeah,
Speaker 5: she struggled with that. So basically, I just I learned
Speaker 5: a lot about it back then and I played this
Speaker 5: game and talking to Bank about it too, it's like
Speaker 5: she's like, yeah, this is like such an interesting way
Speaker 5: to illustrate the difficulties and the struggles of disordered eating basically,
Speaker 5: and it's presented very like it is kind of like Warrior.
Speaker 5: W're like, and the presentation's awesome. It's very you know,
Speaker 5: kind of jaunty music and stuff like that. But it's
Speaker 5: a kind of runs like Depression Quest or Unpacking where
Speaker 5: it's like I've never had depression, and then playing Depression Quests,
Speaker 5: I kind of saw that like, oh, you have multiple
Speaker 5: choices of what you can do tonight, and you keep
Speaker 5: getting it crossed out because you have depression it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it was like that or whatever. So
Speaker 5: with this, there's like different meters you have to just
Speaker 5: kind of juggle between all the time. You go day
Speaker 5: by day, you wake up every day and eat lunch
Speaker 5: and all this, and you've got your mood meter, you've
Speaker 5: got your energy meter, and you've got your gut meter,
Speaker 5: like how full you feel. But you're also trying to
Speaker 5: stay under a calorie limit, which is a huge thing
Speaker 5: that people with what you have is like very much
Speaker 5: obsessing over every calorie that goes into your body. So
Speaker 5: you got all these meters you got to juggle, and
Speaker 5: you know one's going down, like it's almost impossible to
Speaker 5: kind of keep them all in like an equilibrium. And
Speaker 5: at the same time, you're trying to earn money by
Speaker 5: doing chores, because chapter one is all about like you're
Speaker 5: trying to save up money to buy a swimsuit because
Speaker 5: there's this party and there's this boy you like, and
Speaker 5: you want to go look hot in a swimsuit for
Speaker 5: this guy for this party.
Speaker 6: So you got like nine days basically to.
Speaker 5: You know, you're trying to stay underneath your calorie limit,
Speaker 5: which it says early on it actually like to avoid
Speaker 5: like triggering people with eating disorders, it just calls them bytes,
Speaker 5: and so you have like five hundred bytes you can
Speaker 5: do each day. So it starts with like you're eating lunch,
Speaker 5: and it's like a Tetris minigag type thing where it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: so I can fit in. There's all these hunger spots
Speaker 5: I need to fill, and if I don't fill them all,
Speaker 5: which is impossible most of the time, you're gonna like
Speaker 5: not be hungry, you're not gonna be full enough. And
Speaker 5: there's stuff where it's like, oh, there's this cookie that
Speaker 5: I can use for this one slot, but that has
Speaker 5: a bunch of bites, so that's going to put me
Speaker 5: over the limit.
Speaker 6: So I'm going to feed that to the dog.
Speaker 5: So there's all these like very interesting play mechanics that
Speaker 5: go into the story they're trying to tell. So like
Speaker 5: another thing you're trying to do is level up, Like
Speaker 5: you've got skill meters for like diet, athletics, academics, and chores,
Speaker 5: and so you're trying to do all of those. So
Speaker 5: you know your mom's on your ass for like it's
Speaker 5: a semi autobiographical thing. So like the character's mom is like, hey,
Speaker 5: you're getting chunky.
Speaker 6: You need to lose weight. And it's like, hey, your
Speaker 6: grades are you know, slipping. You need to work on this.
Speaker 5: So like the minigame for when you're studying is like
Speaker 5: you'll pick a You'll be on the bus and you
Speaker 5: have to read a book to study for a test,
Speaker 5: and like your head is rotating around and you have
Speaker 5: to like jam a when your vision is over the book.
Speaker 1: But it's like rotating around.
Speaker 5: And then it's like also these thoughts are popping up
Speaker 5: and they're visualized by like clouds like thought bubbles and stuff.
Speaker 5: So it's like, oh, it's your mom yelling at you,
Speaker 5: it's the scale, it's all these other things that are
Speaker 5: entering her mind. And that kind of like like your
Speaker 5: the minigame cone bumps against it and makes it so
Speaker 5: you can't finish it. So it's just so smart with
Speaker 5: all these different ways. It very much gamifies the thinking
Speaker 5: of someone that's going through this. So like that that
Speaker 5: is the thing is like, it's kind of I assume
Speaker 5: it's going to become impossible to juggle everything, you know.
Speaker 5: I finished chapter one. I was able to kind of
Speaker 5: like get everything to a reasonable level, but like, for instance,
Speaker 5: I was so worried about like trying to keep my
Speaker 5: bites under the limit. And also you can exercise, so
Speaker 5: you can burn up, so if you go over the limit,
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, if I burn fifteen bites, then I'm
Speaker 5: under the limit and I'm great. But you only have
Speaker 5: a set amount of time every day you can do things,
Speaker 5: so like if you're just focusing on dieting and exercising,
Speaker 5: you don't walk the dog, you can't do your laundry,
Speaker 5: you don't have time to study, you're not cleaning the bathroom,
Speaker 5: so your mom's pissed you about that. So like I
Speaker 5: had a moment where I was so much trying to
Speaker 5: like do all the bite stuff and the diet stuff
Speaker 5: that you do have to actually do your laundry in
Speaker 5: the game, and there's a really kind of fun minigame
Speaker 5: with it. But at one point there was like a
Speaker 5: little vignette where a bus droby and splashed my character
Speaker 5: and so it's like, oh shit, my clothes are dirty.
Speaker 1: Now I need a change.
Speaker 5: But because I hadn't done the laundry minigame that day,
Speaker 5: I didn't have any clean clothes.
Speaker 1: So the mood meter goes down.
Speaker 5: So it's just this like really really tremendous way of
Speaker 5: like like it is on its surface like fun mini games,
Speaker 5: and it's it's just kind of like a time management thing.
Speaker 5: But as far as like getting across you know, the
Speaker 5: message of this game, and like as far as like
Speaker 5: you know, you don't really hear empathy games that much anymore.
Speaker 5: I was kind of a phrase that people throw around
Speaker 5: a lot. I think this is like tremendous as far
Speaker 5: as that goes.
Speaker 2: Awesome, you do, so you think it accomplishes the goal
Speaker 2: of like someone like you who is a somewhat familiar
Speaker 2: with these things but maybe can't necessarily immediately put yourself
Speaker 2: in those shoes? Does it bridge that gap a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And and most importantly, you know, I asked Bianca.
Speaker 5: I was like, I mean, do you feel like effective
Speaker 5: and like and she's like, this is so relatable, Like yes,
Speaker 5: absolutely so Yeah, it seems to like absolutely be nailing
Speaker 5: the message and also the game aspect of what it's
Speaker 5: going for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I'll almost expecting next.
Speaker 2: It does seem made by people who have who want
Speaker 2: to convey these things, But I think it's one thing
Speaker 2: to convey to someone who knows what they're going for
Speaker 2: and has experienced it. Yeah, but like you know, it
Speaker 2: does sound like it even can reach out to people
Speaker 2: who have no frame of reference for this and maybe
Speaker 2: begin to help them understand it, which is really impressive.
Speaker 5: Because yeah, again, like like so many mental illnesses, I
Speaker 5: think people that don't understand it or haven't excloruished it,
Speaker 5: like it is very hard to like, like, Bianca doesn't
Speaker 5: have anxiety, so like I can, I can explain what
Speaker 5: a panic attack is. Act She's seen me have panic
Speaker 5: actually knows they're not fun. But unless you have felt that,
Speaker 5: you can't understand. Right, It's like it's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: you're not gonna die, what's going on?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: It's like this is a great way to kind of
Speaker 6: let someone feel that a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: For as dire as video game news seems to be
Speaker 1: every single day that we report about it on this website,
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that the indie game scene is able
Speaker 1: to pull off neat things like this Despolote and just
Speaker 1: other weird stories that, like you know, I talked about
Speaker 1: last week, can only really be pulled off in video games.
Speaker 1: Like on its face, Baby Steps is just a frumpy
Speaker 1: white dude in a onesie. Uh, that's too dirty home,
Speaker 1: he needs a shower. But you're have to hear you
Speaker 1: talk about like the deeper messages they you know, you
Speaker 1: can that are intentionally laid in there that you can
Speaker 1: pull out. It seems very It's just like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm not someone who's dealt with a lot of depression,
Speaker 2: but the game, clearly it's like such a good way
Speaker 2: of like understanding someone and like kind of like what
Speaker 2: they have to overcome or things like that. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's as good as as consume me, which
Speaker 2: consume me.
Speaker 1: I swore you were saying consume me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: Google and consume me. I'm like, that's a lot of dinner.
Speaker 5: Compared it to Baby Steps. I'm just seeing this from
Speaker 5: the chat, so I can't verify myself, but it says
Speaker 5: fun fact. I love to bring up Jenny the lead
Speaker 5: dev is a protege of Ben at Foddy.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah man, that's hell. Yeah, that rules okay,
Speaker 1: very awesome from the Bennett Foddy Learning Tree and that yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I I was thinking about this where quick tangent to movies,
Speaker 1: but I watched Infinity Castle, the Demon Slayer movie, and
Speaker 1: it is obscenely long. When it comes to I'm going
Speaker 1: to download it and make my own edit because if
Speaker 1: you were to show this to anyone, it would be
Speaker 1: you couldn't parse out shit. And also Zanitu's fight should
Speaker 1: be last, and I think we can all agree on that, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're right there with you, Bud, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. It's a much more deeper interaction.
Speaker 1: I do like reng Goku though, anyway, But I am
Speaker 1: so juiced because if this is the type of like
Speaker 1: visual assault that we're seeing in animated movies now with
Speaker 1: Infinity Castle, across Spider Verse, Mitchell's versus the Machines, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for in ten years, the fucking visual mayhem
Speaker 1: that we're going to get from like these weird kids
Speaker 1: growing up consuming this shit. Oh yeah, anyway, speaking about
Speaker 1: consuming things, this is a game that I think has
Speaker 1: quickly consumed a good chunk of the staff.
Speaker 5: Eighties two So credits yesterday, nice, I saw credits this weekend.
Speaker 1: I beat it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I you know, I've talked about it more
Speaker 5: at length in the past, but I'll just say that
Speaker 5: now that I'm done with it, And the last few
Speaker 5: weeks have been so Hades two in Megabank Heavy, and
Speaker 5: I still am loving MEGABONK and I'm still I'm definitely
Speaker 5: you know, knocking off checking off all those boxes and
Speaker 5: stuff like that. It is like, I beat Hades and
Speaker 5: I had the thought that, like, you know, MEGABONK is
Speaker 5: a scoop of ice cream and Hades two is like
Speaker 5: a three course meal. You know, Oh, we're both good.
Speaker 5: You like eating both of them, for sure, but like, yeah,
Speaker 5: Haites is just so much more like layered and just
Speaker 5: in so many different ways. You know, obvious We've talked
Speaker 5: about the dialogue and everything, but just like how different
Speaker 5: the runs can be and everything, and like the fact that,
Speaker 5: like the first one, you do need to do a
Speaker 5: bunch of runs to a bunch of successful runs to
Speaker 5: see credits in this game, and it does keep that
Speaker 5: interesting and fun and everything. So it's like, look, knew
Speaker 5: this game was gonna be good. It it's an absolute killer.
Speaker 5: It's if you said it was the best rogue Light
Speaker 5: of all time. I certainly wouldn't blink at that.
Speaker 3: Now, are you also feeling a pool to kind of
Speaker 3: keeping and getting the epilogue done.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to use this as a break to
Speaker 1: check out some other games?
Speaker 7: Same thing.
Speaker 1: I should do that, but I also kind of keep
Speaker 1: going to play Eighties two.
Speaker 5: It's the exact same approach I had to Soilk Song,
Speaker 5: where it's like I got to the end of Act
Speaker 5: two and it's like Act three started, and it's like,
Speaker 5: all right, I do want to play this because this
Speaker 5: is definitely one of my favorite games of the year.
Speaker 5: But it's like, I feel like I've seen credits, I've
Speaker 5: seen an ending of this game for sure, Like I'm
Speaker 5: going to focus on other stuff right now and then
Speaker 5: maybe I'll come back to it at some point.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like I kind of need to do that
Speaker 3: as well. So many things. You know, I need to
Speaker 3: start tactics and like I should be trying Trails on
Speaker 3: the sky. But god, it's just so fun playing Eighties two.
Speaker 3: And you know the first game did this too, but
Speaker 3: it's just so smart how when it starts almost get
Speaker 3: kind of easy. It introduces that system where you can
Speaker 3: make the game harder through various ways that you can pick,
Speaker 3: and then you get rewards for doing that that unlocks
Speaker 3: more cool stuff. So You're still even this lay in
Speaker 3: the game, even at the rolling credits, constantly unlock. That's
Speaker 3: creat constantly getting new dialogue and new story beats and
Speaker 3: interesting things happening.
Speaker 1: It's just insane how dense.
Speaker 3: This game is.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the most impressive thing is that
Speaker 2: is you both you and Dan now have touched on
Speaker 2: that where it's like it just keeps going and the
Speaker 2: three course meal of like they just find ways to
Speaker 2: make everything still feel so worthwhile even though you are
Speaker 2: still doing these runs over and over again.
Speaker 1: It's they could change things up on you.
Speaker 2: It just feels like one of the most well thought
Speaker 2: out games ever made in terms of making sure the
Speaker 2: player feels like they're never wasting their time.
Speaker 3: That starts right away.
Speaker 2: I talked about that last week when we were talking
Speaker 2: about it. To hear that that continues and there's new
Speaker 2: things to unlock and see and like new systems that late,
Speaker 2: that is impressive start.
Speaker 3: I mean, I still haven't actually completed like a romance
Speaker 3: path or fooled out, you know, filled out an entire relationship.
Speaker 1: Thing, which God, are you trying to fuck? I?
Speaker 3: I you guys aren't gonna like is I? You both
Speaker 3: disliked them, like the mean lady with the short babe.
Speaker 6: No ghost, are you? That's a McGroom, Mike.
Speaker 3: Also scary movie the lady ghosts.
Speaker 5: You're getting the ghosts, Mike, dan Ackroy fuck the ghost
Speaker 5: he got blown by ghost.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean out of you know relations, the meaning.
Speaker 3: Of it is, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: themreal seems like a nice guy. Huh, good for you, Mike.
Speaker 3: You know, hey, do your thing, chicken wing. I like
Speaker 3: the lady that's mean to me. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: says okay. I nemesis went too far that one time.
Speaker 3: But she was like I at least knew my mother.
Speaker 3: Uh no, there's no coming back from that. She doesn't
Speaker 3: even really apologize for it. You can go get fucked.
Speaker 6: I'm a Sellini man, I get it for sure.
Speaker 3: Can you later, Harry?
Speaker 1: Carry line? Isn't it? I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: What did you say? Does Aras show up later?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 3: Which?
Speaker 1: Which one's air? She's short hair? The game girl.
Speaker 6: Oh she's the worst.
Speaker 3: She's the one who gives you the deep buff and
Speaker 3: what in the beginning of the game thro trash on
Speaker 3: the ground, Yeah, a second area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you know what Mike I get it. I
Speaker 1: get it. I understand it. Yeah you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a cheat code for me as well.
Speaker 3: It's a strife yeah, okay, right, all right.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. Mike. Did you encounter the person
Speaker 1: I was alluding to last week that had the cum gutters?
Speaker 1: I I.
Speaker 3: Saw somebody with just a massive i'll just say it,
Speaker 3: a massive penis bulge.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's him, dress.
Speaker 6: Like I dress like fucking dress and acting like Matt Riddle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't notice. I didn't notice the I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna call them the cgs. I didn't notice the cs
Speaker 1: as much as you.
Speaker 3: I was distracted by his thong bulge.
Speaker 1: It was insane. He stuffed it. You think he's stuffed?
Speaker 1: I mean, God is wild. So he put a grapefruit
Speaker 1: in there, a grapefruit maybe of some kind.
Speaker 3: What are you even trying to say? You put a
Speaker 3: grapefruit in there? Jesus Christ?
Speaker 1: That spherical? It is kind of spherical. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, Well we talked a lot about eighties two
Speaker 1: and and like the replayability and unlocking everything. I want
Speaker 1: to hear from y'all. What is the load out that
Speaker 1: y'all have been rolling with? And or like the builds
Speaker 1: that you're trying to.
Speaker 3: I mean, I generally will do the one that recommend
Speaker 3: that like switching up, unless it's that axe. I have
Speaker 3: not ever made that axe feel bad. So give us
Speaker 3: some tips because've been struggling with the I ax.
Speaker 5: You do the scythe version, the aspect that turns it
Speaker 5: into a scythe because that I think already, oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: so up sythe and the attack speed goes up. So
Speaker 5: like the big downside of the axe is the swing speed.
Speaker 5: But it's got like good damage. It's got this huge
Speaker 5: range of attack, and so you focus on getting like
Speaker 5: you know, the hammer upgrades and stuff like that. It'll
Speaker 5: be like boost your attack speed and so and I
Speaker 5: barely use like sometimes i'll use the special for that
Speaker 5: one to like knock off armor, but I put everything
Speaker 5: else into like you know, you'll get crazy shit where
Speaker 5: it's like it'll attack in a three sixty around you
Speaker 5: with the normal speed of a slice. It has a
Speaker 5: chance to swipe twice. It's like you can make that
Speaker 5: thing a fucking killer.
Speaker 2: I did have a good run when I was doing
Speaker 2: the slash twice. I got one where it was like
Speaker 2: slash twice and then also Mike slash twice if you
Speaker 2: do a dash, so it was actually slashing four times occasionally.
Speaker 1: That was insane. That was really cool.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite has been the last one you
Speaker 3: get that just kind of turns you into an armored
Speaker 3: Corps robot with all the missiles you can just kind
Speaker 3: of run around spam your special or aiming at people.
Speaker 3: I've gotten pretty strong with that, and the one where
Speaker 3: you and then the one you throw out the skulls.
Speaker 3: I've had good luck with that, and then also get
Speaker 3: the ones that could just later ones like one, well
Speaker 3: later in the game, it becomes pretty easy to just
Speaker 3: constantly have Mana reag in so that that isn't all
Speaker 3: resource you worrying about, so even just constantly shooting those
Speaker 3: out and spending the Mana on that. And and if
Speaker 3: you have builds that reward you for using Mana, like
Speaker 3: you know, if you get at the saliney stuff, that
Speaker 3: could become pretty powerful.
Speaker 5: And I really didn't like. Those are the two I
Speaker 5: didn't like for most of my time with this game
Speaker 5: was the wands and the skull. The skulls and I
Speaker 5: barely ever even even when they were the glowy one.
Speaker 5: I didn't pick it, and then like yesterday, I was
Speaker 5: picking them a lot, and it's like, man, any weapon
Speaker 5: in this game you can kind of tweak it. Like
Speaker 5: with those hammer upgrades. I love when I'm going up
Speaker 5: because there's almost always a hammer there in that first time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so it's like I go there first and it's
Speaker 5: like I will just get something. It's like, okay, great,
Speaker 5: that makes us a very usable thing. Or like you know,
Speaker 5: the skulls. I didn't necessarily like picking up my AMMO
Speaker 5: when it dropped it down, So it's like all right,
Speaker 5: when you get a hammer upgrade, that makes them automatically
Speaker 5: returned to me and one hundred percent faster. And then
Speaker 5: it's just like I have this awesome ranged explodey thing
Speaker 5: that I used to like kill the the main boss
Speaker 5: going up without even like using a death defiance. Like
Speaker 5: so these things that I didn't like at all, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh shit, you just get on the right run with them,
Speaker 5: and like they can be That's.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with the weapons. The right run can
Speaker 1: make anything awesome. Yeah, you kind of get it.
Speaker 3: You just start getting a sense of what boons you're
Speaker 3: looking for, what upgrades are even taking advantage of those
Speaker 3: uh those items that make certain gods appear more often
Speaker 3: because you're looking for something. Yeahcific and the bosses are
Speaker 3: just super good too, you know spoilers. But the third
Speaker 3: boss on the going up route, I love that fight.
Speaker 3: That fight is so much fun. There's parts of it
Speaker 3: that remind me of like a World of Warcraft raid,
Speaker 3: with the way you.
Speaker 5: Certain things fire stuff that Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm the
Speaker 5: middle top bottom.
Speaker 1: I literally hear my raid leader calling it.
Speaker 6: Out in I was assigning numbers to be like a
Speaker 6: two one, two three I would.
Speaker 3: Do if you like that kind of stuff, that's what
Speaker 3: That's a lot of what WOW rating is like, Well,
Speaker 3: I didn't like that, so.
Speaker 1: I recommend it for you.
Speaker 2: Kronos, it like didn't seem like I'm still pretty early on.
Speaker 2: I got to Kronos once and got him like the
Speaker 2: second phase, and like one fit of his south I
Speaker 2: was like, right there, I'm like this s that fight
Speaker 2: wasn't too bad. I'm assuming like he is an appetizer
Speaker 2: for like what is really happening in this game.
Speaker 3: Right, And you know, and there's that yeah, because you
Speaker 3: thinking of him as like the final boss maybe's and
Speaker 3: super correct because you do have the uppath. I will
Speaker 3: say that he seemed he definitely seemed easier than Hades
Speaker 3: did the first.
Speaker 1: Time they got to the comparison I'm making.
Speaker 3: I think you get to that point with Chronos maybe
Speaker 3: because we're all a bit more trained on this now, right,
Speaker 3: But you got there with Hades eventually where that was
Speaker 3: kind of automatic. He just knew what he did. And
Speaker 3: you feel that with Kronos. But you know, you get
Speaker 3: those things too that make each boss fight harder, and
Speaker 3: I'm kind of working my way through those right now too.
Speaker 3: It's always really interesting to see the ways they do that.
Speaker 3: Like you know, for the Sirens, it's very different. They
Speaker 3: sing a different song, there's a different mechanics there, there's
Speaker 3: a different arena you're fighting them in. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: completely different encounter in a lot of ways. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the Sirens and like the building lore in
Speaker 1: between runs. I got fairly early they were like you're
Speaker 1: an agent, right out at you, and then like you
Speaker 1: meet them the next round, they're like, you're not a
Speaker 1: fucking agent. You lied to us. It is so good,
Speaker 1: It's so fucking good.
Speaker 3: It's great characterization, amazing character like my favorite depiction of Greece,
Speaker 3: Greek mythology stuff I've ever seen, and they made a
Speaker 3: Disney movie about that shit.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yeah, yeah yeah, Heracles here doesn't need to
Speaker 1: show me any com gutters. I'm I'm down for the ride.
Speaker 1: Uh folks, that's wait. Wait, we talked a lot about stuff.
Speaker 1: We let's take a quick bricky break. We'll finish off
Speaker 1: games talk, and then we'll talk about the news right
Speaker 1: after this. Brub. I love podcasts and I would like
Speaker 1: to listen to more of them.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, I've got the podcast for you, then, Bud
Speaker 5: Stage Select, Grub.
Speaker 1: I have trust issues, especially with podcasters.
Speaker 2: Look, it's always important to be careful and safe about podcasters.
Speaker 1: But don't worry.
Speaker 2: Host Julian Titus and Justin Hamm have over sixteen years
Speaker 2: a combined podcasting experience, and The Stage Select is finishing
Speaker 2: up its second season at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, what a pedigree? Tell me more, Grub.
Speaker 2: Oh what about a video game variety show where the
Speaker 2: hosts act as if they're performing for a live studio audience.
Speaker 1: Kind of like The Muppet Show. Do they have reoccurring
Speaker 1: characters Shenanigans, Bits and skits. Oh baby, we got bits,
Speaker 1: we got skits. I love bits and skits. Is there more?
Speaker 2: The show is designed to be unexpected. Jan they'll go
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Speaker 1: Grub, Grub, I'm hearing that. Episodes forty one and fifty
Speaker 1: nine are fantastic points to get a vibe of the show.
Speaker 1: Julian and Justin are fiercely independent and do this for
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they draw from the best, like the Giant BombCast,
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Speaker 3: And no one can know.
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Speaker 1: podcast at stage select give it a.
Speaker 7: Listen, Bits and skits. We still got games to talk about.
Speaker 7: I realized my channel is muted, but hey, we still
Speaker 7: got games. So the truck, the train is moving along.
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Speaker 4: And he's like gone down since the first time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're still working for me now, airs coming out
Speaker 6: of the balloon.
Speaker 1: So yet, yesterday I learned in golf that there's like
Speaker 1: a beer cart.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: Can I just go to a golf cart course and
Speaker 1: just like hang out and and and counter one or
Speaker 1: do I have to play golf?
Speaker 2: You can hang out at the nineteenth hole right the bar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what a lot of a lot.
Speaker 4: Of they're all legally obligated to be called that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen one not called that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of local Like at least here, all
Speaker 3: the local golf courses have generally a pretty nice restaurant
Speaker 3: in bar, and you can look out on the greens.
Speaker 1: They're pretty Mike, I enjoy your business tactics, but you
Speaker 1: know what I enjoy more than that? No fy, no
Speaker 1: fantasy tactics. Now, I'm just grubbs.
Speaker 3: I didn't see where that was going.
Speaker 1: It's right, I'm trying to zig and I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna zag with me, but you like ziggy z.
Speaker 1: Get over there, Jeff Grubb, you it says on this
Speaker 1: list here have peeped Final Fantasy Tactics, the Evilies Chronicles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've started it.
Speaker 2: I've done a handful of battles, and I like, I
Speaker 2: think it's clicking for me. I tell you what, it
Speaker 2: looks really nice and that helps. I think the presentation
Speaker 2: is very good. I think it took me a second
Speaker 2: to I get used to the camera, but once I realized,
Speaker 2: you could just hit the one of the shoulder buttons
Speaker 2: and it gives you a top down view.
Speaker 1: And then if that's not even.
Speaker 2: A toggle, it's just like a Holts. You hold, you
Speaker 2: check down, make sure that you got everyone in your site,
Speaker 2: you let go. It goes back to the more cinematic
Speaker 2: isometric view that looks really pretty. That helped me like
Speaker 2: unlock the game. For me, It's like, Okay, I'm not
Speaker 2: like struggling with this camera anymore. I could just quickly
Speaker 2: pop in, pop out and make my move. It's got
Speaker 2: a job system, which I of course knew, but I
Speaker 2: love job systems games and.
Speaker 5: Just like barely sort of scraping the surface of that.
Speaker 5: I'm already like, oh, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm super gonna get into this because I just can't
Speaker 2: wait to take these characters and build them out and
Speaker 2: give this one this job and then that next job.
Speaker 1: And oh my god, a bit later on they're can
Speaker 1: be able to like take.
Speaker 2: The things they learn and do some super special job.
Speaker 2: Because I went down that path, I'm like, ooh, that's
Speaker 2: my shit. So it's it's hitting sort of the tone
Speaker 2: that I needed it to hit. I think, like I
Speaker 2: remember Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced maybe being getting going a
Speaker 2: little bit faster and getting me on board with the
Speaker 2: tactical gameplay, which is what I'm really here for a
Speaker 2: little bit faster. But it's not like this is some slouch,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's always been praised for its story
Speaker 2: and early on I think that's like, oh, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: getting this.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I get what people why people think this
Speaker 2: is high quality, and I can tell that there's some
Speaker 2: seeds here that if they deliver on them, then yes,
Speaker 2: I will be right on board with everyone else who's
Speaker 2: super into what this game is doing on that front.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many games allow you to work
Speaker 1: your way up to be a mime, but this is
Speaker 1: one of those that's a rules.
Speaker 3: Have you guys played foun Fantasy five where like that's
Speaker 3: where the Final Fantasy job system style was written.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about it before, and it sounded awesome.
Speaker 3: So freaking good if you like this job system and tactics.
Speaker 3: My understanding is that it's very similar to the one
Speaker 3: from Final Fantasy five.
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your
Speaker 1: time with it, Grub. I need someone to eventually tell
Speaker 1: me what the fucking Onion Knight is.
Speaker 3: From Final Fantasy three is where Onion Knights first originated.
Speaker 3: It was the name of the starter class in the
Speaker 3: original version of the game and subsequent remakes. It was
Speaker 3: almost kind of the ultimate class that you could get instead.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just a it's a Final Fantasy three thing,
Speaker 3: original Fficy three, the one that was on the famicom.
Speaker 1: Ah. I see there's there's there's lots of layers to it,
Speaker 1: just like ogres, just like onions, just like a parfait,
Speaker 1: and just like Lego Voyagers has lots and lots of layers.
Speaker 1: Jeff Beckelart, you have been playing this, I'm assuming, but
Speaker 1: dib yes.
Speaker 4: But this is not a story about our time with
Speaker 4: that game, Jan This is a story about how we're
Speaker 4: not playing that game. Oh okay, and this is a
Speaker 4: story how we're not playing Henry half at because I
Speaker 4: offer these items to my son as a gift. He
Speaker 4: doesn't know how good he fucking has it getting to
Speaker 4: play all these goddamn games like Schmorga's Board of whatever
Speaker 4: you could possibly conceive, all of these free codes. He
Speaker 4: he's playing FC twenty six the week before it comes out,
Speaker 4: like it ain't no thing, It's unbelievable. And what does
Speaker 4: this kid want to play instead of Henry half Het?
Speaker 4: What does this kid want to play instead of Lego Voyeurs, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, we did play for two hours. We
Speaker 4: played it for two hours. We had a great time.
Speaker 4: Stacey washed it was a family moment.
Speaker 3: We did the thing.
Speaker 4: It was really really nice and we got to like
Speaker 4: a certain level where he was like, oh you know what, Dad,
Speaker 4: I'd really want to go back and play Steal the
Speaker 4: Brain rot on Fortnite Fortnite.
Speaker 2: Oh now, my kids just started Fortnite because it came
Speaker 2: about Demon hunters and they've been asking for a brain
Speaker 2: rock game and I'm like I can't find one.
Speaker 1: So now they have.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: What is a brain rot game?
Speaker 3: Okay, just like the kids like like today regular like Sixcess. Okay,
Speaker 3: but listen, okay.
Speaker 1: Just keep saying things.
Speaker 4: Well, most people know what they are. It's not it's
Speaker 4: not your fuel, no don't, but uh at least not
Speaker 4: on my browser. Listen, here's here's what it is.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Steal the brain Rot is very loosely adapted from the
Speaker 4: Roadblocks game. Steal the brain Rot kind of like a
Speaker 4: comic where you so it's like a Fortnite you know, uh,
Speaker 4: custom game right where someone built this map area where
Speaker 4: you get onto a server and out an assembly line
Speaker 4: comes these quote unquote brain rots that are just he's
Speaker 4: like insane sort of I don't know, for lack of
Speaker 4: a better comparison.
Speaker 1: Ambos, right, just come out.
Speaker 4: There's like trophy there, there's like a there's like all
Speaker 4: the brain rot classics you've come to know and love,
Speaker 4: all collected in one ridiculous Fortnite experience, and they come
Speaker 4: out and you can buy one and then it goes
Speaker 4: into your base and you collect all of these brain rots.
Speaker 4: Then if there are more people on your server, you
Speaker 4: basically have to play this game of like Fortress, where
Speaker 4: you protect your brain rots, you have to renew the
Speaker 4: lock on your base, and if you allow your base
Speaker 4: to be unlocked, someone can steal your brain rot.
Speaker 1: And that's what this game is.
Speaker 3: It's very dumb. It is very dumb.
Speaker 1: It is very bad.
Speaker 4: And where I'm really like, you know, where he and
Speaker 4: I are locking horns. It's like, dude, you play all
Speaker 4: these like really sort of a I don't want to
Speaker 4: say cerebral, but certainly more engaging in a positive way,
Speaker 4: even Fortnite on its face, like with the strategy and
Speaker 4: the socializing. He's getting the socializing with the brain rod shit,
Speaker 4: but like he's not. This is not a game. This
Speaker 4: is just very dumb. And I'm like, dude, you gotta
Speaker 4: just stop.
Speaker 1: You got to stop.
Speaker 3: There's no like currency, there's no like V buck attachment.
Speaker 3: It's not like you don't understand.
Speaker 4: He's not like he's not like, you know, draining the
Speaker 4: bank account, asking for seven thousand v bucks just so
Speaker 4: we can get like a tik tala miky mala, you
Speaker 4: know whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I wish.
Speaker 4: It just sucks. Look, I get it. He's ten. Is
Speaker 4: the worst taste imaginable. He is just a piece of
Speaker 4: shit in every sense of the word. He has no understanding.
Speaker 4: That is true of every kid. My kids said loved garbage.
Speaker 4: I've said this for years. True, they love Track one hundred,
Speaker 4: like you know. I mean, look, need I say more
Speaker 4: than the cyber truck? Right, the thing that's only ten
Speaker 4: year old boys think is cool. Right, there's a reason.
Speaker 1: So I get it.
Speaker 4: And my patients only last so long with this stuff.
Speaker 1: But did you get tungue tung tung sahar?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got like eleven of them. And the more
Speaker 4: brainroots you get, the more your base gains a floor.
Speaker 4: So he has like a five story base with all
Speaker 4: of these brain rots that generate fake money, and you
Speaker 4: collect all the money so you can buy more.
Speaker 3: It's just like a collection thing, clicker. It's a time
Speaker 3: wasting collect a.
Speaker 1: Lot of these games.
Speaker 2: A lot of these games are basically like idol games
Speaker 2: with a little bit more going on. The k Pop
Speaker 2: Demon Hunter's Tycoon game, another Fortnite fan made game my
Speaker 2: kids are playing, is basically just an idle game.
Speaker 1: I watched them.
Speaker 2: I was like what are you guys doing because they
Speaker 2: had spent ten minutes straight just punching a box that
Speaker 2: was spreading out money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like yeah, like I can't judge. I've
Speaker 5: played a lot of idle clicker games, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean get it.
Speaker 4: I get it right, and I know, just like most
Speaker 4: of this slop, it will pass right, Like, yes, the
Speaker 4: time is running out on this for I go. Look
Speaker 4: like you're you play Fortnite, You've been playing Rocket League
Speaker 4: in Fortnite for like five years.
Speaker 3: Those are the things you come back to.
Speaker 4: I promise you in six months, you're gonna be like,
Speaker 4: oh right, I did play that brain Rock thirty years.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have like a synaps spark and like wait
Speaker 5: did I play that game? And you're gonna try to
Speaker 5: find it and it's not gonna be anywhere because it's
Speaker 5: not worth preserving and like that, your brain.
Speaker 4: Will decide to delete it to make space for other stuff.
Speaker 4: So you know that's Henry. Henry Halfhead. He played for
Speaker 4: like two hours.
Speaker 1: He loved it. He's like, this is great, this is
Speaker 1: so much fun.
Speaker 3: I'm you know.
Speaker 4: He It brought a lot of like the Donut County,
Speaker 4: you know, memories he really loves and uh, I think
Speaker 4: that game's cute.
Speaker 1: And very cool.
Speaker 3: Uh and Voyagers is great as well.
Speaker 4: I just, you know, I bring all these up because
Speaker 4: he put them on a shelf to go back to
Speaker 4: this goddamn brain Rock game. And if you're a parent,
Speaker 4: you probably know what it's about. But holy shit, I
Speaker 4: just can't wait till this this one passes, because this
Speaker 4: one hurts. This one is this one's uh scraping at
Speaker 4: my uh scraping at the wounds here a little bit.
Speaker 1: What do you guys back are you know? Uh Jan
Speaker 1: Mike Dan, what do you guys think? Tongue tung tongue
Speaker 1: Sahar is it? I'm gonna say it. It feels racist
Speaker 1: in the mouth. Is there a racist mouthfeel?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It definitely had his racist mouthfeel and probably there could
Speaker 2: be something there, but well, I mean it originated from
Speaker 2: Indonesian Malaysian culture, so they're part of the brain Rock community.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's a piece of wood with arms and
Speaker 2: legs that carries.
Speaker 1: A baseball bat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many weird like the brain It's weird
Speaker 4: how the brain Rod stuff turned into like statues like
Speaker 4: these are characters.
Speaker 2: You know, Valerie to Cappuccina, there is a literal one
Speaker 2: that's a six seven.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: He's just walking around like I'm a six almost seven.
Speaker 6: Hey, so doing you know I'm gonna go live in
Speaker 6: the woods.
Speaker 1: You do.
Speaker 2: That's that's what they want, Dan, So you're you're seeding
Speaker 2: this culture to them.
Speaker 1: That's what they want.
Speaker 3: The old man to go away.
Speaker 4: I will, Yeah, it's true, that is true. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I think it's mostly harmless.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: Just like you said, Grub, we were into pretty dumb ship. No, no, yes,
Speaker 4: I never felt this way about you, Like my dad
Speaker 4: watched it with me and I lose SpongeBob and fucking uh.
Speaker 4: You know, Gravity Falls is amazing. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: good stuff there, for sure. There is.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: POGs. Yeah baby.
Speaker 3: If you if your memory is a poster deleted and
Speaker 3: POGs showed up right now as only a thing Dib
Speaker 3: and kids like that were into, you would hate POGs recess.
Speaker 4: I will just say this, for the best majority of
Speaker 4: the brainwaw, shit is bad. I do think six seven
Speaker 4: is not the worst. I kind of in a way,
Speaker 4: I think it's all right.
Speaker 1: It's so stupid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but here the thing. Uh Rich in the
Speaker 4: chat was like six seven is no worse than whats that?
Speaker 3: And Rich is right, yeah, right now that's the Budweiser commercial. Similarly,
Speaker 3: like that's what we're all doing, right, yeah, yes, I
Speaker 3: mean it is, that's the truth. We're also all the
Speaker 3: homophobic things we used to just say constantly in the
Speaker 3: school yard, right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're better about that now. Yeah. Well I've heard
Speaker 1: some youth still saying certain words and like yeah, and
Speaker 1: then in fact, the art word. We got rid of
Speaker 1: that one, and like everyone's like we miss it, What
Speaker 1: the hell I mean? Yeah, okay, well it feels like
Speaker 1: the youth are in a completely different world, if not
Speaker 1: a completely different galaxy, just like Mike Minatti you have
Speaker 1: been on a different galaxy by playing Super Mario Galaxy too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's one of the all ten great
Speaker 3: games and it still is that, And the graphic improvements
Speaker 3: are more than I was expecting. The game looks very
Speaker 3: sharp most of the time, Like every once in a
Speaker 3: while you'll see Captain Toad and he kind of looks
Speaker 3: like a GameCube character suddenly, like his mouth is just
Speaker 3: a texture, you know, kind of a thing, like oh,
Speaker 3: that part looks old, but everything else actually still looks
Speaker 3: super spiffy. The resolution is really sharp, the colors are popping,
Speaker 3: so the porting job whatever they did, looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: Just using the.
Speaker 3: Gyro controls is more than adequate instead of the pointer.
Speaker 3: I haven't had an issue with it at all. It
Speaker 3: was amazing when I was using the pro control and
Speaker 3: it works just about as well when I'm just doing
Speaker 3: the game in hound handhold mode. Even when I'm doing
Speaker 3: the Yoshi stuff. You had to kind of aim somewhat
Speaker 3: precisely with that pointer while you're platforming. I have not
Speaker 3: had a problem with that at all. It is interesting
Speaker 3: playing this game because, like, outside of the levels, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of the stuff just isn't as good
Speaker 3: as it is in Galaxy One. Not that coming to
Speaker 3: a Mario game for story, but it's more like the presentation.
Speaker 3: Like Galaxy One opens with this surprisingly epic and just
Speaker 3: sort of well framed opening cut scene.
Speaker 1: They hear it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a story book with you know, texts,
Speaker 3: and it just feels cheaper. Spaceship Mario isn't nearly as
Speaker 3: good of a hub world as the Observatory from one.
Speaker 1: The thing is like you know that's a matters.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that much, certainly not as much as
Speaker 3: level design and mechanics, and Galaxy two is just so
Speaker 3: freaking amazing at that stuff. The levels are all so
Speaker 3: freaking interesting and fun and constantly introducing new ideas and
Speaker 3: new things. It's just an absolute blast to jump through
Speaker 3: all of them. The physics feel perfect. When you have
Speaker 3: those weird gravity moments of the little planet toys you're
Speaker 3: jumping between them, it's awesome. Some of the best power
Speaker 3: up probably like my favorite suite of power ups in
Speaker 3: any Mario game, between the b Suit and the cloud
Speaker 3: Suit and like the rock rolling Mario and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and then yosh in this game, one of the best
Speaker 3: implementations of Yoshi that we've had. Super fun. So yeah,
Speaker 3: Galaxy two is still that game, and this seems like
Speaker 3: a fantastic kind of upgraded port of it.
Speaker 5: I've had to stop myself because I have not played
Speaker 5: Galaxy two since I think it came out, and I
Speaker 5: remember at the time thinking like, yeah, this is the
Speaker 5: best three D platform of all time. I think this
Speaker 5: is a little bit better than Galaxy which was my
Speaker 5: previous best ever. So I got like one star in
Speaker 5: this just to kind of like see how it looks
Speaker 5: and everything kind of wet the appetite, and it's like,
Speaker 5: all right, maybe that's a holiday thing. Maybe that's you know,
Speaker 5: once I'm done with some other stuff, you know, like
Speaker 5: that's I'm very very excited to go back to that.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to hear control. So well, that's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fantastic, Chat says interesting question. Hey, is every mainline
Speaker 5: Mario game now on Switch? And I think it might
Speaker 5: be wait Sunschina. Yeah, it's in three D all Stars,
Speaker 5: so so okay, and I know maybe you don't. I'll
Speaker 5: just do it real quick.
Speaker 3: I know it.
Speaker 5: It's one two, three World, World two sixty four Sunshine
Speaker 5: Galaxy Galaxy two honesty.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right on mom. Yes, so three D Land
Speaker 3: and Super Mario Lant aren't on there yet. And yes
Speaker 3: we also have three D World, which is still the
Speaker 3: weirdest one, Dan that you don't consider that one. Did
Speaker 3: you see like the museum put up a wall with
Speaker 3: all the Maine Mario games and there's no Yoshi's Island?
Speaker 6: How interesting did it say? What was the phrasing? Send
Speaker 6: me a link.
Speaker 3: I don't rember for you. The one that posted this Dan,
Speaker 3: I believe it's name line.
Speaker 6: I pointed out that Yoshi's Island was on the Yoshi Wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, is that what you're referring to?
Speaker 3: No, there's a new one. I'll find it for you later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, uh, whatever you want to.
Speaker 3: Call him of the May of the three D of
Speaker 3: the Mario platformer games, which somehow is then enough of
Speaker 3: a description to be mainline for Dan.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's just Mario lant.
Speaker 3: Which will be is that somehow stone?
Speaker 1: That can't be right?
Speaker 3: Is that not on nisode?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: That has to be what am I saying?
Speaker 4: I figured it's god which land it is?
Speaker 7: It is?
Speaker 3: It's just three D land actually, which I don't even
Speaker 3: know if they bother with that one. Honestly, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if we get that one.
Speaker 6: Oh bro, you're saying a game boy one. So those
Speaker 6: aren't mainline, but yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Can just talk to me. Yeah, three D Land.
Speaker 2: I think they'll redo that at some point. They'll because
Speaker 2: you can't just put that out in HD. It would
Speaker 2: look fucking bad.
Speaker 1: Give it some extra love, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it could get away without being three D,
Speaker 3: but you gotta kind of replace that with something. I
Speaker 3: don't know because was important. Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It's like they can figure something out there, but it's
Speaker 2: it looks pretty barren when you played on an emulator now,
Speaker 2: so hopefully they do something there, but they'll do it
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I forget and Galaxy too. How many
Speaker 1: different like suits and stuff does Mario get? There's a lot,
Speaker 1: because uh, I sometimes get which ones were brand new
Speaker 1: for two? But he was in the he was in
Speaker 1: the first one. What about Cloud was Cloud in the
Speaker 1: first one?
Speaker 5: Cloud was Cloud is the best?
Speaker 3: Cloud is the best Mario costume we've ever had. The
Speaker 3: way it looks and the mechanics of it are so
Speaker 3: freaking good. I think Boulder might have been new for two.
Speaker 3: I like bolt to Mario. You have fire, you have
Speaker 3: ice as well, you have the spring. Also you have
Speaker 3: that cherry that creates the copy of you.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all sorts of good.
Speaker 1: Stuck. Well, yeah, Mario continues to wear a bunch of
Speaker 1: different hats, But I'm more interested in the hat that
Speaker 1: you're wearing, Mike Manatti, because you have it celebrating golf
Speaker 1: Week like no one else. You're still wearing the golf
Speaker 1: week clothes. You can get Store dot Giant Bob dot com.
Speaker 1: But you have also been playing a couple other golf
Speaker 1: games that you'd like to.
Speaker 3: Talk about, Yeah, Josh Tomorrow, to kick Golf Week off,
Speaker 3: I dug into a bunch of them, starting with Pebble
Speaker 3: Beach Golf Leaks on the Sega Saturn, which was originally
Speaker 3: a three D O game, And yeah, that's really the
Speaker 3: vibe here. Don't think early three D polygons three think, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're using digitized sprites and FMV cuttings on some three
Speaker 3: D levels. But boy, the vibe is actually really neat.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: It's Craig Stadler is This character just keeps popping up
Speaker 3: and talking to you. He doesn't have a lot of charisma,
Speaker 3: which is why it's amazing. Whenever he's saying lines, it's
Speaker 3: actually hilarious. He has become my favorite golfer ever. Now
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with the Walrus and yes that is his nickname.
Speaker 3: But there is like this is actually a good game,
Speaker 3: and I love that it is just Pebble Beach, this
Speaker 3: one renowned golf course and before every hole they actually
Speaker 3: like show you a video of it with Craig Styler
Speaker 3: talking about it and literally like offering you actual advice
Speaker 3: on how yeah you should play this hole, which you
Speaker 3: know a place of the game, but would also apply
Speaker 3: if you are actually playing golf there.
Speaker 1: This is the virtual highlight engine.
Speaker 3: This is the fertile highlight engine, so it's made for yeah,
Speaker 3: digitized sprites on three D world.
Speaker 1: The best is uh I was.
Speaker 4: I caught a glimpse of it, and it's like the
Speaker 4: shakiest fucking helicopter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes over yesterday.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4: No, that is so funny to me, Like just these
Speaker 4: lengths of which they had to go to to just
Speaker 4: get an aerial shot of a single golf hole, where
Speaker 4: now it's just some putts with a fucking drone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The one thing I really struggling with was the
Speaker 3: power meter was just difficult to read. It was in
Speaker 3: like five segments, so it's hard to tell where percent
Speaker 3: was really and I don't know. It just feel like
Speaker 3: I was constantly undershooting or overshooting. You know, if I
Speaker 3: played it more, i'd get a feel for it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is a kind of golf game that could only
Speaker 3: have existed in this one two or three year window
Speaker 3: there in the history of video game graphics. So I'm
Speaker 3: glad we got it. It was a fun treat. But
Speaker 3: we actually got a couple of indie developers reached out
Speaker 3: and wanted to help us celebrate Golf Week with some
Speaker 3: of their games, So I checked those out on Mega
Speaker 3: Man last night. You can catch that stream. First one
Speaker 3: was called Golf in It and this one is like
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of that like Game Boy Color
Speaker 3: Mario style. One thing that reminded me of and I
Speaker 3: mean this is positive. It's like the flash golf games
Speaker 3: used to play in high school.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, I'm nostalgic for those. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it's easy to play on mouse and keyboards. It's
Speaker 3: very fast paced, you know, classic golf stuff with you know,
Speaker 3: click once for power, click again for accuracy. There's some
Speaker 3: a few other extra things happening, Like there's turtles on
Speaker 3: the golf course and if you land near their radius,
Speaker 3: they'll just sort of hit your ball, so like that
Speaker 3: could really miss you. Up there are portals, and if
Speaker 3: you go in a portal, maybe it'll get you closer,
Speaker 3: but maybe it'll get you further away.
Speaker 1: You can also buy upgrades.
Speaker 3: With sort of the experience points you're through playing things
Speaker 3: like oh you can use this ball one time that
Speaker 3: just won't bounce at all, or another ball that will
Speaker 3: always bounce in the direction of the pen.
Speaker 1: So stuff like that. Yeah, so ito's golf in it.
Speaker 1: Go O L F I N I E. Then also
Speaker 1: checked out Super Video Golf.
Speaker 3: Now this is like what a sega on a golf
Speaker 3: game would have looked like if it was like Virtua Golf, right,
Speaker 3: early three D polygons kind of a thing like the
Speaker 3: golf game we didn't get then, So I always love
Speaker 3: that low poly look.
Speaker 1: So this has that in spades.
Speaker 3: And then again just very classic golf mechanics on top
Speaker 3: of all of that has everything. He kind of went with,
Speaker 3: you know this, you know again, classic swing controls, stuff
Speaker 3: like that. It just had a very good vibe, very
Speaker 3: good music. It had a little bit of that Craik
Speaker 3: Statler energy.
Speaker 1: Honestly looks cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have the bad voice lines right with the
Speaker 3: low quality audio. So yeah, so it's the low fi
Speaker 3: video golf, very cool vibe, super good Again it's called
Speaker 3: Super Video Golf. So another very good uh indie golf game.
Speaker 3: To check out what I have online stuff like online
Speaker 3: tournaments or play with Okay, oh, that's cool locally things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I did try that Beavis and butt Heead mini golf
Speaker 2: game from nineteen ninety eight to see if it would
Speaker 2: be worthy of Golf Week.
Speaker 6: That game sucks, but holes a hohoy or what's it called.
Speaker 2: It's like a bung hole in one. The best thing
Speaker 2: about that game, by far is the name good. It's
Speaker 2: just like what if mini golf was happening in the
Speaker 2: Beats and butt Heead world, but you don't like see
Speaker 2: them on the course. You like, it's one of those
Speaker 2: ones where you click on the ball, pull away from
Speaker 2: it and then it kind of flings forward like I
Speaker 2: like that mechanic. But it's just such a bare bones,
Speaker 2: basic nothing game that really isn't worth the time.
Speaker 1: That's the new golf game I played.
Speaker 2: I played some Neo turf Masters and stuff like that
Speaker 2: before everyone knows that rules, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I checked out some of that stream. Neo turf Masters
Speaker 1: does rule.
Speaker 3: I mean it's funny because it has some of that
Speaker 3: similar energy to Pebble Beach, which is, you know, instead
Speaker 3: of like digitized, it's mo capped, really high quality spice
Speaker 3: sprite work. I think, Yeah, it just still looks so
Speaker 3: freaking good. The music is amazing. That's probably my favorite
Speaker 3: golf game ever. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's it really holds up.
Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: We are continuing the Golf Weeks celebrations and for those
Speaker 1: folks out there that may have heard the Game Informer
Speaker 1: at the play during the break, we're gonna go play
Speaker 1: against Game Informer tomorrow. That's right. I believe Dan and
Speaker 1: Grubb are going against the Vans. That's right, Van Allen
Speaker 1: and Van Ak, and we're going against them in everybody's golf,
Speaker 1: right is that's that's.
Speaker 5: The everybody's I think Van Aken might be traveling, but
Speaker 5: I've been talking to Van Allen about it and if
Speaker 5: he's not availble.
Speaker 1: Tongs one Van otherwise I'm out.
Speaker 5: We will have a Van and another Game Informer out
Speaker 5: of there that we would go against. All right, okay, okay,
Speaker 5: unfeat against kind of funny. I think it's about time
Speaker 5: to be undefeated against another outlet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it. Yeah. All the models out there, you're
Speaker 1: on watch, get on watch. We're all coming for you.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: Right, We're getting out of the com gutters and we're
Speaker 3: gonna go dominate in video games across the board. Start
Speaker 3: giant bum.
Speaker 1: We sell coung gutters. No, well, I was gonna I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I'm ready to party with Game Informer.
Speaker 1: But before that, I want to hear about a party
Speaker 1: that we had last Friday, Lego Party. Holy smokes gang,
Speaker 1: imagine if was good so badly? This game was really fun.
Speaker 5: Actually we played it and loved it. And then I
Speaker 5: said at the end, I said, because like I think
Speaker 5: it was. Yes, yeah, that Friday, because like my my sister,
Speaker 5: her husband and their daughter my niece were on the
Speaker 5: way up here driving up from Kansas when we were
Speaker 5: playing Lego Party, and I told you that, like, Okay,
Speaker 5: the real test is going to be is Mario Party
Speaker 5: has always been a game that can appeal to people
Speaker 5: if they don't really play a lot of games or whatever.
Speaker 5: You know, the types that like you play Mario Party
Speaker 5: twice a year at holidays or whatever, and like that's
Speaker 5: your thing is Mario Party. And for my sister Katie,
Speaker 5: that is her game, Like she would like you to
Speaker 5: play Mario Party with me and Kayla growing up and stuff,
Speaker 5: But she they've got a switched. They don't play a
Speaker 5: whole lot or hasn't play some Call of duty every
Speaker 5: once in a while, not really gamers biny stretch and
Speaker 5: I brought it up to them that night. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 5: would you guys be up for changing it up a
Speaker 5: little bit to night and uh and playing this new
Speaker 5: Lego Party game. And Katie told me later that when
Speaker 5: I said that, she was skeptical because she was like,
Speaker 5: I don't really care about Legos. I don't really do
Speaker 5: Lego stuff like Mario Parties are thing like, let's just
Speaker 5: play that. They finished the first game, absolutely loved it,
Speaker 5: and we're like, nice, that is better than Mario Party?
Speaker 6: Can we do another game right now?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 6: Wow, it is, and I will say it it is.
Speaker 6: It is better than Mario Party.
Speaker 3: It's frustrating how much better it is. Like they make
Speaker 3: fifty Mario Parties, they couldn't have thought of a single
Speaker 3: one of the one hundred improvements of the formula that
Speaker 3: Lego Party has introduced here.
Speaker 1: It's just so much snapier.
Speaker 4: I feel like on the outside where I'm at, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we've been saying this for a long time, So Lego
Speaker 4: Party no, just about how like piss poor of an
Speaker 4: experience Mario Party is. And yeah, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: go that all of these all of these quality of
Speaker 4: life things that are like so sick people and obvious.
Speaker 5: Let me run down a few here of like clear
Speaker 5: improvements and tweaks to Mario Party that I noticed, and
Speaker 5: I've only played three games of it now, and like
Speaker 5: there's maps I haven't played, like I want to play
Speaker 5: a lot more. All right, So mini game placement determines
Speaker 5: turn order, so yes, which is so smart because let's
Speaker 5: say it's the thing where me and Greb are both
Speaker 5: two or three spaces away from the golden brick, which
Speaker 5: is the star that adds so many stakes to the
Speaker 5: mini game itself. Is that like goal first, Like holy shit,
Speaker 5: that alone changes a lot. That's incredible. They've got these,
Speaker 5: you know, like the two v two stuff. You know
Speaker 5: it would happen in Mario Party if you know two
Speaker 5: were on blue and two were on red. Here it's
Speaker 5: specific brick battle squares that you land on and it
Speaker 5: puts you in a two v two match and the winner,
Speaker 5: the winning team gets a golden brick each, so immediate
Speaker 5: stakes on that. So you get to a brick battle
Speaker 5: it randomly puts you. It's all right, jan, me and you,
Speaker 5: we got to get this and there's a star on
Speaker 5: the line. It's not just ten bullshit coins or whatever.
Speaker 5: It's it's like a real thing at the end of
Speaker 5: mini games. This is a very minor one, but I
Speaker 5: appreciate it. Like it'll show the score, let's say, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just something where you got to shoot X number
Speaker 5: of whatever. The score shows up, but then like in
Speaker 5: the waning seconds, like last five or ten seconds, it
Speaker 5: fades away. So there's that element of like ooh, one
Speaker 5: until it does the like you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Final thing. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 5: So the boards themselves shift, Like the way they use
Speaker 5: legos in this game is so fucking good because like
Speaker 5: you'll do the theme park course and there's like the
Speaker 5: starting area and then like the central fountain thing they
Speaker 5: go around, but then when you go to the corners
Speaker 5: you get to build one, so you can build like
Speaker 5: the new land. So it's like do I want to
Speaker 5: do horror Land, like a haunted house themed section of
Speaker 5: this board, or do I want to build extreme Land?
Speaker 5: And that's a whole different thing. So each time you play,
Speaker 5: even like the theme park world, that's going.
Speaker 1: To be different.
Speaker 5: It does like these risky free bricks you can get
Speaker 5: there where it's like, okay, I can go to the
Speaker 5: water park land and if I can climb up this
Speaker 5: whole thing and avoid all six of these you know
Speaker 5: why slide things that will send me down shoots and
Speaker 5: ladder style to the beginning, I will get a free
Speaker 5: golden brick that I don't have to pay for. I
Speaker 5: went to the extreme Land and it was a totally
Speaker 5: different thing with the free brick, where it's like it
Speaker 5: is a series as you progress through it of like
Speaker 5: you have to do like okay, like a bike stunt
Speaker 5: or whatever. You have to like it's a timing thing.
Speaker 5: And then at the last one you get a monster
Speaker 5: truck and the golden brick is inside of flaming like
Speaker 5: hoop and you have to like ramp the monster truck
Speaker 5: in and if you fuck up the timing, you don't
Speaker 5: get the golden brick. It was all for not so
Speaker 5: that stuff is super good. It is way snappier pacing everything.
Speaker 5: There's moves along faster. There are a couple shops, but
Speaker 5: like it is not the constant fucking Mario party thing
Speaker 5: of like, right, well, I could roll eight and run
Speaker 5: into three shops and have to like fucking shut up, Koopa,
Speaker 5: I don't want to buy anything, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wh it's just like the way like it does
Speaker 3: like a solo mini game where a Mario Party, it
Speaker 3: just stops. You talk to NBC. It loads too a
Speaker 3: thing here. It just all happens on the board. As
Speaker 3: you're going along, your character just quickly looks at the
Speaker 3: mini game. It's an it's usually like one or two
Speaker 3: button presses, so it doesn't think forever and just move
Speaker 3: off your turn.
Speaker 1: It happens so fast.
Speaker 5: That's a great point in Mario Party. It happens a
Speaker 5: lot where you land on a solo one and Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna fade to the roulette to decide what single
Speaker 5: player game we do. Okay, lands on this, fade to
Speaker 5: the practice thing. Okay, like everyone's just watching. Okay, fade
Speaker 5: to the actual thing and then you got to pick
Speaker 5: your fucking glove item or whatever.
Speaker 6: Fade back like it's just like so much bullshit.
Speaker 5: And here, yeah, Michael, you said you can go to
Speaker 5: like an archery thing in the fantasy land or whatever,
Speaker 5: and it's just like okay, yeah, hit a twice to
Speaker 5: try to get the higher number and then move along
Speaker 5: like it's just so much snappier.
Speaker 4: It's so much better, so demonstrably better. That Lego is
Speaker 4: inadvertently jeopardizing its licenses with Intendere's.
Speaker 1: What they do.
Speaker 3: They said they're gonna do a switch to upgrade when
Speaker 3: they get dev kits.
Speaker 1: Here's what they do, right. They've They've done Lego Batman,
Speaker 1: Lego Star Wars, do Lego Mario Party Party awesome?
Speaker 5: Give them the series, Like seriously, Hey, the Lego Nintendo
Speaker 5: sets are fucking great.
Speaker 6: I love those. It's cross play.
Speaker 5: So like my system, Katie and her husband can play
Speaker 5: on Switch while Cala plays on PS five and I
Speaker 5: play on PC. It's forty dollars. It's cheaper like it
Speaker 5: focuses on that. Like all anyone wants to do in
Speaker 5: these fucking games is play the core board game mode.
Speaker 5: And the recent Mario Parties outside of Superstars was like
Speaker 5: the greatest hits. It just packs it with all these
Speaker 5: fucking side modes no one gives a shit about where
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, me and Jan are you know, on
Speaker 5: a Koopa delivery service thing and we gotta fly around
Speaker 5: with motion flappy things to deliver toads or something like.
Speaker 3: Things.
Speaker 5: You'll play once and be like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 5: And like put the resources into making the fucking board
Speaker 5: game experience better, and that's what this game is is.
Speaker 5: It's just the fucking board game experience. And then you're
Speaker 5: getting player XP levels up, you're getting a park, you know,
Speaker 5: like board levels up, and getting like fun Lego mini
Speaker 5: fig customizable stuff. I may like before they all got
Speaker 5: in town, I made all of us like Lego mini versions.
Speaker 5: So it's fun to be able to just be a
Speaker 5: little versions of your Lego versions of yourselves. If if
Speaker 5: Aliens came down tomorrow and said, like we come to party,
Speaker 5: like I'm going to fucking Lego Party way before Mario
Speaker 5: Party objectively better.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna party off. You're not gonna party r
Speaker 1: off for it. Yeah that's a joke.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: It feels like NFL two K. So Nintendo's gonna go
Speaker 2: out and get exclusive license.
Speaker 3: To party and actually do this and.
Speaker 1: Parties.
Speaker 3: The medium of cells are so good too, Like they're
Speaker 3: all very intuitive, they aren't too complicated. None of them
Speaker 3: are super chance based, which I came across these.
Speaker 1: You're playing a game.
Speaker 5: This is way more leg I jokingly said for so
Speaker 5: many years, Mario Party's a game of skill. There's so
Speaker 5: much bullshit luck in there. This is just like there's
Speaker 5: no bullshit stars at the end. I know you can
Speaker 5: turn this stuff off in Mario Party and everything, but
Speaker 5: there's always bullshit. And Mario Party was like you just
Speaker 5: land on a block and you got a star for
Speaker 5: no reason. This one like you kind of earn your
Speaker 5: shit in this. And some of these mini games, like
Speaker 5: Mike said, like very Tall Race. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you like it was the funniest fucking thing. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you guys have played that one where you're
Speaker 5: on this like tall unicycle and you have to have
Speaker 5: like a race against each other, and it's just like
Speaker 5: this incredible like balancing game you have to do. Museum
Speaker 5: Mayhem is this fun one where you like it's like
Speaker 5: a four square thing where you each have it's like
Speaker 5: a two by two grid and like everyone's guarding their
Speaker 5: own lego vase and there's like a big ball bouncing
Speaker 5: around and it's just very much that like kind of
Speaker 5: like air hockey. If you ever done those like four
Speaker 5: player air hockey tables, Yeah, it's like that, but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to like knock this ball to break your
Speaker 5: vase behind you and everything. There's a trivia game where
Speaker 5: you're like identifying lego versions of famous art, so it's
Speaker 5: like a lego version of Starry Night.
Speaker 6: And you're doing like a multiple choice thing on like
Speaker 6: what this thing is?
Speaker 1: It's cool.
Speaker 5: It's so fucking good, Like I can't like, I feel
Speaker 5: like when we played the SGF, it was just kind
Speaker 5: of like we're all just looking around, like this is
Speaker 5: really good.
Speaker 1: What the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Then we played it on Friday, had a blast, immediate winner.
Speaker 5: It's like this is our new thing. We're like, they're
Speaker 5: buying it on switch.
Speaker 3: We need to play it again next week. I know
Speaker 3: this is golf week made time, but I need to
Speaker 3: this game again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fun reason I want to.
Speaker 3: Brothers in the getting it's I can play with them more.
Speaker 1: I just want to play more Lego party. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe we don't know if it changes based on what
Speaker 5: map you're on, but I did see there's a twenty
Speaker 5: four turn option that was estimated that three hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a party.
Speaker 2: I honestly think that would be a lot of fun
Speaker 2: because there's so many things we didn't get to do.
Speaker 2: Because we didn't get to do any of those two
Speaker 2: versus two things because we didn't have enough time to
Speaker 2: land on that, and those are so high stakes, they're
Speaker 2: pretty rare.
Speaker 1: Like I want to see everything.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen the version of chance time like on
Speaker 5: the leg So chance Time needs to be a thing
Speaker 5: in my party. And that was the ultimate bullshit thing here.
Speaker 5: It's just the last turn. The shops are turned into
Speaker 5: like chance Times squares and like that can change things, right.
Speaker 3: And even like the Boo equivalent, like the seas, they
Speaker 3: don't show up right away, right.
Speaker 1: The banana guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just kind of like the banana dudes show
Speaker 5: up in speedboats, like halfway through the game.
Speaker 3: That was so cool.
Speaker 6: A bunch of fucking monkeys from an airplane to beat
Speaker 6: the ship out of you.
Speaker 1: Great. Maybe we should also invite another party of fiicionado
Speaker 1: to the Lego party party, Yeah, another sequel party I did.
Speaker 1: Did Bianca like it? Yes? Really?
Speaker 6: She actively despises Mario party like that.
Speaker 5: It's like a family thing and it's like we don't
Speaker 5: have the full group or whatever, and it's like, listen,
Speaker 5: the kid is like sixteen months old.
Speaker 6: You're gonna we need a forest. She's like, I will
Speaker 6: do it. I will not enjoy this. I will not
Speaker 6: like I will do the family thing, but like she
Speaker 6: had fun with this one.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: I think this one can win over people that like
Speaker 6: actively hate Mario Party.
Speaker 1: It's really good wild.
Speaker 5: I did a Ninjago level, which that is totally different
Speaker 5: than the theme park one where it's like you're going
Speaker 5: to these uh you have these fights against these giant
Speaker 5: Ninjago dragons and stuff with like timing based things where
Speaker 5: you goat ship out of them and go they can
Speaker 5: get a brick.
Speaker 3: I don't think it get like, you know, some of
Speaker 3: those classic Lego laces and stuff involved when they did
Speaker 3: the menses. I would love it if there was like
Speaker 3: a back to the Future level or.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, that'd be really cool. Lego Party devs,
Speaker 1: if you're out there, I know you have a lot
Speaker 1: of work because you're trying to get the switch to
Speaker 1: up and running for me, for me, your friend Jan,
Speaker 1: can you add bionicles please?
Speaker 3: You're going to pay for that one, I'll do.
Speaker 5: I've posted about this being better than Mario Party, and
Speaker 5: one of the devs did repost me saying this is
Speaker 5: the most professional validation I've ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go.
Speaker 5: It's tremendous. It's tremendous. It's gonna be my go to
Speaker 5: and I hope they make twenty more of these.
Speaker 1: Yep, that may be the best news that I've heard
Speaker 1: all day. Jeff Grubb, I challenge you to deliver some
Speaker 1: more no good news. Oop. All right, let's do this.
Speaker 3: Let's start here.
Speaker 2: Did you guys see this this thing that Nintendo dropped
Speaker 2: a weird video a short film. Nintendo post mysterious close
Speaker 2: to You animated short film this morning. A Nintendo clip
Speaker 2: titled close to You shows a baby chasing a floating
Speaker 2: pacifier around a bedroom. It'sok like a three DCGI animated thing.
Speaker 2: Nintendo has offered no further details, simply posting the video
Speaker 2: with the title. The video depicts a mother leaving her
Speaker 2: baby with a passifire, after which the baby's toys begin
Speaker 2: moving on their own. The passifier then floats out of
Speaker 2: the baby's mouth, leading to the baby chasing it around
Speaker 2: the room. The mother re enters, seemingly surprised by the
Speaker 2: baby's first steps because the baby got up to get
Speaker 2: the pacifier and hugs the baby, and Nintendo logo appears
Speaker 2: and the video ends without explanation. Online speculations suggest the
Speaker 2: music is very similar to Pickman.
Speaker 3: You know what. The first couple of notes.
Speaker 2: Of that song sound exactly like the Pickman music, but
Speaker 2: then it goes in a different direction, so it's like,
Speaker 2: are those my ears or my ears playing a trick
Speaker 2: on me? There is another moment in the trailer where
Speaker 2: the camera's focused on the baby and the baby's chasing
Speaker 2: some of its toys that's moving around, maybe the pacifier,
Speaker 2: and underneath its crib a small blow read object is
Speaker 2: moving that maybe could be a Pickman Even if it is,
Speaker 2: what do you guys think this trailer is trying to accomplish?
Speaker 2: So weird because the trailer videos short? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that's what.
Speaker 3: It looks like, a CG short, like something from an
Speaker 3: illumination or maybe it seems like.
Speaker 1: Something that we'd play before the Mario movie later next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is the court. Like this doesn't look
Speaker 3: like anything Nintendo has done before. But if I would
Speaker 3: initially think this is just related to you know, they
Speaker 3: have that Mario line of basically baby toys and baby
Speaker 3: stuff coming out. Yeah, but like, yeah, like the quality
Speaker 3: of this is seems surprisingly high and nothing in here,
Speaker 3: says Mario.
Speaker 1: It's just this pacifier kind of moving around on its own.
Speaker 3: Like maybe there isn't it like a new pigment type
Speaker 3: that's an invisible pickment, and that's moving the pacifier around.
Speaker 6: This doesn't look like Piman to me. I'm just watching now.
Speaker 1: The arts high.
Speaker 2: That's a great many about it. Now we go go
Speaker 2: to one minute in thirty nine seconds to see that
Speaker 2: thing move.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's something there.
Speaker 6: That is a tiny little that's mmm, that's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it could be like the teaser for the Pickman
Speaker 3: movie from Illumination, right, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool. I think that would be
Speaker 1: my best guess.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, even if it's like Pickman shorts before
Speaker 2: the Mario movie that eventually leads to a Piman movie.
Speaker 3: Down the road. There are people, there's some other speculation.
Speaker 2: People think that that baby could be Rosolina because of
Speaker 2: her eye color and what else that was written here,
Speaker 2: because of its mama storyline in the game. I think
Speaker 2: that's a stretch, but I don't know, I really don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the baby's wearing blue, right, like that's spacey
Speaker 3: blue like Rosalina, And yeah, the blonde hair you know what.
Speaker 3: I like this theory actually immediately now, maybe maybe there's
Speaker 3: a Loomo over there or something like that. Okay, I
Speaker 3: think this is a rose oh gosh, yeah, and the
Speaker 3: mobile has stars on it. I actually immediately think that
Speaker 3: this is just related to the Mario Galaxy movie and
Speaker 3: that this is a Rosalina origin.
Speaker 5: Actually, okay, okay, Chat says again just a chat thing
Speaker 5: not verified here, says Meamoto has said that pickmen are
Speaker 5: always quote close to you in the world, and the
Speaker 5: Pickman bloom app says that humans can't see Pickman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking I was wondering if there was
Speaker 2: something like that. Okay, So a lot of possibilities here,
Speaker 2: but regard this is weird.
Speaker 1: Weird they don't.
Speaker 5: This feels like you're like like Kajima tees of just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: movie Dick studios, you know what's this fucking thing?
Speaker 1: You know? Like, yeah, it's very bizarre. All right, I'm intrigued. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nintendo's name pops up. I don't.
Speaker 2: I feel like if Illumination was very involved, they would
Speaker 2: have their credit on there.
Speaker 1: I don't see. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ninato did acquire a three D video production team last
Speaker 2: and they called it Nintendo Video in like the last
Speaker 2: couple of years.
Speaker 3: So I don't know either way, I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 2: Uh I listen, it's something new with Pickman. Even if
Speaker 2: it's a Pickman movie, Oh anything, I will be very excited.
Speaker 1: I love I love Pickman. I'll take it. I would
Speaker 1: love a new Pickman game. Though. They should just make
Speaker 1: the Pickmen into minions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm honestly, they're gonna work with elimination,
Speaker 2: just like, have the Minion team do a Pickman movie.
Speaker 1: I bet that would be all ruin pimen.
Speaker 2: Pickman were doing that shtick long before the minions existed,
Speaker 2: so they didn't.
Speaker 1: Have a stick. They were real, they were pure.
Speaker 3: They're very honest, all right.
Speaker 2: Months after delay, Bungee's Marathon is returning to testing. Buzzy
Speaker 2: a Bungee Shooter Marathon is set to return to close
Speaker 2: beta testing between October twenty second and October twenty seventh,
Speaker 2: nearly four months after it's an initial delay. This NDA
Speaker 2: protected play test aims to evaluate improvements made since the
Speaker 2: alpha does feel like and they say it, it's like
Speaker 2: a big important checkpoint. It feels like this is gonna
Speaker 2: be the moment it's like, Okay, can we actually release
Speaker 2: this game by March and it'd all be decided by
Speaker 2: help people respond to it. Now, let me ask you, guys,
Speaker 2: any interest into seeing how Marathon looks at this point
Speaker 2: or is this one of those ones where like I'll.
Speaker 3: Just wait till it's out. I mean, it's an academic interest,
Speaker 3: because you know, we've heard pretty quickly that people didn't
Speaker 3: like Marathon when it was last testing, and that seemed
Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, put the game in this
Speaker 3: weird place. I'm just curious if I don't think I'm
Speaker 3: going to like the game almost no wonder what I
Speaker 3: tried it.
Speaker 1: I think I just don't like extraction shooters.
Speaker 3: Actually, who knows, But there are a lot of people
Speaker 3: who do, and I'm curious if this wins over more
Speaker 3: of them, if this does find some positivity, or if
Speaker 3: this Marathon is just going to continue to sort of
Speaker 3: drown in this negative space that's been occupying for so long.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we've talked a bunch about Marathon, so there's
Speaker 2: not much else to say here. But you know, that
Speaker 2: is a game that apparently they still want to get
Speaker 2: out by March, by the end of the fiscal year
Speaker 2: if it doesn't make that window.
Speaker 1: If this goes poorly again, do you.
Speaker 2: Think it could be as bad as pulling the plug
Speaker 2: on it?
Speaker 1: Like they can't, right, they can't. I feel like they can't.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, I feel like they can't. I
Speaker 1: don't know, though.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Metal Health Singer studio closed as part of fun coom cuts.
Speaker 2: Funcom is closed the Outsiders, the developer of Metal Health Singer,
Speaker 2: as part of company wide the layoffs. Founder David Goldfarb
Speaker 2: shouts out to David Goldfarby's school. Dude announced the closure,
Speaker 2: noting that the studio, acquired by Funcom three years prior,
Speaker 2: had survived a previous near death experience that led to
Speaker 2: the creation of Metal Health Singer. I see there's there's
Speaker 2: a lot of camaraderie there.
Speaker 1: At the studio.
Speaker 2: They're going to try to like do something to maybe
Speaker 2: save the essence of the studio. I didn't fully follow
Speaker 2: what he meant, but it sounds like they are going
Speaker 2: to try to continue in some way. Whether that's like
Speaker 2: building a new team off to the side with a
Speaker 2: lot of the same people or not.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I never played Metal Health Singer. It seemed like a
Speaker 2: like it seems like the idea. Yeah, it seemed like
Speaker 2: a good try an idea, do something different from everyone
Speaker 2: else and stand out like and they did that, and
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of people did actually pick
Speaker 2: up on it and enjoy it. Again, was well reviewed,
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a shame, I bet though. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: reached a certain level of success, and we want to
Speaker 2: see this level of success.
Speaker 1: To just get out of here.
Speaker 2: That's the story of gaming right now. Red Dead Redemption
Speaker 2: two is PS five, Xbox Series and Switch two versions
Speaker 2: are still happening. That's according to Nate the Hate. That
Speaker 2: sounds about right to me because Red Dead Redemption two
Speaker 2: on PS four and PS and Xbox one that version
Speaker 2: is the version that you can still get on modern consoles,
Speaker 2: and it then it's still locked to thirty frames per second.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, they will probably unleash that game
Speaker 3: in some new way here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Probably just with an update.
Speaker 2: But yeah, then they release it on Switch To, which
Speaker 2: is a twenty eighteen game that will make sense. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna replay it here. If I
Speaker 2: replay that game, I'll try it on PC with some ods.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're gonna have Grand Theft Auto six next year,
Speaker 2: So do you think this comes out like much sooner
Speaker 2: than that. It's like not distract from it.
Speaker 1: Maybe a January February thing that was, Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 3: We can still continues to sell pretty well, actually even yes,
Speaker 3: even still, so yeah, these updates will give it some juice.
Speaker 3: You know, they definitely couldn't use some performance boosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be cured.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see how this game looks on
Speaker 3: a switch to, because sometimes it is just a matter
Speaker 3: of how much work you put into it, and we've
Speaker 3: seen with like the GTA trilogy, sometimes even a company's
Speaker 3: biggest take to just won't put that much work into it.
Speaker 3: So I hope they do a good job here.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Mina the Hollower delayed. Yacht Club Games has announced a
Speaker 2: delay for Mina the Hollower. This is the shovel Night team.
Speaker 2: They were going to release this game on Halloween, October
Speaker 2: thirty first. They are now releasing it on unspecified date.
Speaker 2: They've not given a date, but they did say that
Speaker 2: they will tell everybody the date once they submit the
Speaker 2: game to platforms. So they're trying to suggest here like
Speaker 2: it is a quote unquote indefinite delay in that it's
Speaker 2: not being defined. But it's not like, oh, we're taking
Speaker 2: this thing down and we don't know when we're going
Speaker 2: to put it back out. They just want to make
Speaker 2: sure that it's really finished, really and actually submit it
Speaker 2: to platforms ready to go, and they'll talk about it again.
Speaker 2: So we're probably talking about a month or two, probably
Speaker 2: still before the end of this year.
Speaker 3: I absolutely having a fancy I'm sure they wanted to
Speaker 3: hit Halloween. It's like, you know, it's a fitting release
Speaker 3: date for a game that has some spooky vibes like this,
Speaker 3: but it can also probably add pressure to feel like
Speaker 3: you have to hit this day and maybe you're rushing
Speaker 3: through certain things that you'd rather take your time on
Speaker 3: and make sure a really good Uh. You know, we've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of games now, Soak Song Haities two
Speaker 3: the biggest indie games. You can imagine, they don't tell
Speaker 3: you their release date until it's like a week or
Speaker 3: two out, until they are too super certain stuff.
Speaker 6: We'll just have one powerwash simulator just like a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks from now.
Speaker 3: I think now, like I think they're all like, why
Speaker 3: bothers setting up a release date, Uh that we that
Speaker 3: we might miss, probably will miss these days.
Speaker 1: Let's uh just wait until we really know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they announce the state a bit ago, so it's
Speaker 3: a bit of a bummer, but it's probably the right
Speaker 3: thing for this game, almost certainly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you guys talk that out, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what these other companies did. They submitted it
Speaker 2: to platforms, got the approval, and like, oh, okay, now
Speaker 2: we know two weeks from now this game's coming out,
Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll probably get exactly the same thing with Mina.
Speaker 2: Last week after the show, Xbox raised the price of
Speaker 2: game Pass. A Game Pass Ultimate will now cost thirty
Speaker 2: dollars a month. It's the twenty dollars a month. There's
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of caveats. It's going to be double
Speaker 2: the price in some territories, it's going to be it's
Speaker 2: not gonna have all the features that it once had
Speaker 2: on like the middle tier. You no longer get Call
Speaker 2: of Duty eventually added to the library.
Speaker 1: But whatever.
Speaker 2: The big highlight here is everything's getting more expensive. They
Speaker 2: are no longer trying to find new users, They're trying
Speaker 2: to make more money from the same users. You know,
Speaker 2: there was kind of a seemed like a rush to
Speaker 2: cancel this thing. I said I would, I still have
Speaker 2: not I need to do that because I'm just not
Speaker 2: using this at all. Really, you know, this is overall
Speaker 2: kind of part of Hey, what's going on with Xbox?
Speaker 2: Like how serious are they are they about anything that's
Speaker 2: not Call of Duty or Minecraft or a handful of
Speaker 2: other things. And it feels like they got to justify
Speaker 2: what all the money they've spent, and that comes back
Speaker 2: to we need to increase prices, and of course there's
Speaker 2: tariffs and all these other things.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Other companies are finding creative ways or working hard to
Speaker 2: keep prices down, and Microsoft does not seem interested in
Speaker 2: doing that. How are we feeling about game Pass.
Speaker 3: It's it's just a it's rough at that price. Even
Speaker 3: though gay Pass had a pretty good year when it
Speaker 3: comes to releases, even though Microsoft Microsoft themselves don't have
Speaker 3: much I mean, game Pass had Exhibition thirty three, they
Speaker 3: had Soak Song, they had a lot of the biggest
Speaker 3: games this year. It feels like it should be able
Speaker 3: to ride this momentum. It just feels like, well, if
Speaker 3: it's maybe it's ever going to work out. Then, I
Speaker 3: don't know what you could possibly make game Pass work
Speaker 3: for you as a business plan, aside from just constantly
Speaker 3: raising the price to you know, they didn't just go
Speaker 3: from twenty to five or you know, twenty to twenty five,
Speaker 3: they're from twenty to thirty, a huge fifty percent increase.
Speaker 3: It's almost just it's almost insulting that they would just
Speaker 3: immediately jump it that high. They get so clear and
Speaker 3: naked that they are just going after that ten percent
Speaker 3: of their fan base that will show up no matter
Speaker 3: what they do. They are hurting that brand so bad
Speaker 3: right now. You know, even like some of the normies
Speaker 3: in my life right like, boy Xbox is done. Huh,
Speaker 3: Like that's becoming the narrative. It just feels like they
Speaker 3: are a spiraling out of control. And even in an
Speaker 3: industry that has a pretty short memory with these things, right,
Speaker 3: we've seen other brands be at low points and then
Speaker 3: climb to new heights again, it's so hard to imagine
Speaker 3: how Xbox gets out of this quagmire.
Speaker 1: But the remember go ahead, Jen well it just real quick.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it doesn't feel like they're making
Speaker 1: any active or positive steps to get out of the quagmire.
Speaker 1: It's not like they switch to their sand wedge web
Speaker 1: Norman bomb dot com.
Speaker 2: Everybody is that the name of the thing that is
Speaker 2: Sandwichka think the open Face Club, the sand wedge opening.
Speaker 1: Like with every new thing I see anyone from Xbox saying,
Speaker 1: it's like it's just kind of it's beyond sweep swiping
Speaker 1: or sweeping the problem under the rug because like the
Speaker 1: rug is like just full of coffee stains. Shrug exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're actively doing it, and like, what are y'all even
Speaker 1: thinking about doing? Scout, I know you're working a ship rug.
Speaker 3: A shrug, that's right, that's what That's what a ship
Speaker 3: rug is called. I they I think they.
Speaker 2: I think what happened is they had a bunch of
Speaker 2: ideas to try. They tried them all and and the
Speaker 2: whole time there's someone kind of behind them being like, Hey,
Speaker 2: when's this thing going to really start popping off and
Speaker 2: making real money?
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, once we really get game Pass.
Speaker 2: Going, and star fields are going to be once we
Speaker 2: have once we have starfield, Yes, once this happens, what's that?
Speaker 2: And then all these things happened, nothing really changed. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying these things weren't scessful or people didn't like them.
Speaker 2: A lot of that stuff did happen, but as far
Speaker 2: as the people standing behind of Phil Spencer were concerned,
Speaker 2: this thing is not really changing its stripes at all.
Speaker 2: It is still kind of the business it has always been,
Speaker 2: and even if it's growing, it's not growing the way
Speaker 2: that we're seeing some spaces grow like AI. And so
Speaker 2: they did, they tried everything, and they are basically out
Speaker 2: of excuses and now they have to sort of give
Speaker 2: in and turn into the thing that the people standing
Speaker 2: behind them wanted it to be, which is pop out
Speaker 2: only the most popular things going forward, cut a lot
Speaker 2: of cost, cut a lot of studios that aren't making
Speaker 2: call of duty, and we'll just kind of go from there.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, it is kind of shitting in
Speaker 2: the bed because they don't have any choices left in
Speaker 2: front of them, really, and that's a lot of that
Speaker 2: is just the way that the industry is growing and
Speaker 2: not growing and not selling a lot of consoles, but whatever.
Speaker 2: They should have more answers to this than they just don't.
Speaker 4: I remember when, like don't you remember right when this
Speaker 4: really started to take shape in a way where everyone
Speaker 4: was like, whoa, this seems like the greatest value in games, right.
Speaker 4: The question was always how can they continue to do
Speaker 4: this forever? That was the conversation when when game Pass
Speaker 4: really presented, the most compelling case was, holy shit, there's
Speaker 4: no way this makes sense financially.
Speaker 1: What's the end game?
Speaker 4: I'm gladly pay you now for this because it seems
Speaker 4: like I'm getting a tremendous deal and you're the ones
Speaker 4: getting fucked over. I guess this, But like, so to
Speaker 4: me with with that, you know, information not left leaving
Speaker 4: my mind. I'm not surprised, right, Like I could see
Speaker 4: the other shoe dropped, right, It's like, yeah, the whole
Speaker 4: idea is cornered the market at the lower price, get
Speaker 4: everyone on the board of this idea, and then eventually
Speaker 4: you raise the price because everyone's like, well, this is
Speaker 4: how I play games, right, And that's like I worked
Speaker 4: for Netflix and.
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime and all these other things. Sure, it just
Speaker 2: it didn't get big enough like those other ones did.
Speaker 4: Well, and the miscalculation being there was never a you know,
Speaker 4: the opportunity to like parlay this into you know, dot
Speaker 4: dot dot profit question mark was never realized in a
Speaker 4: meaningful way right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's the shoe dropping.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like back then it was either like this
Speaker 5: is going to change the industry forever and now we
Speaker 5: buy games and play games, or this is too good
Speaker 5: to be true and this is it's gonna be on
Speaker 5: borrowed time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, even if it like is making a profit,
Speaker 2: which they claim often that it does, you know, I
Speaker 2: think that is a fancy math a lot of times,
Speaker 2: like they aren't like really taking into consideration all the
Speaker 2: things that go into the cost of running something like this.
Speaker 2: But even if it is it is, it has clearly
Speaker 2: not grown the way that they wanted it to. There
Speaker 2: was that year that Phil Spencer and Satiinadella both had
Speaker 2: their bonuses tied to Game Pass growth. Neither of them
Speaker 2: got those bonuses. They were expecting, poor guys. They were
Speaker 2: expecting huge numbers and it stalled out at around thirty
Speaker 2: million subscribers. And you compare that to Disney Plus Netflix,
Speaker 2: uh maybe even Paramount Plus, Like it's probably it's probably
Speaker 2: not like all the all that great, and so it's
Speaker 2: like they want that growth, that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 2: The growth stopped even if it's profitable, which again we
Speaker 2: don't know, but they say it is. But even if
Speaker 2: it is not growing, that was that just told the
Speaker 2: whole story right there. They're like, Okay, so now we're
Speaker 2: getting bored with this. Let's change our direction. And here
Speaker 2: we are, and so like what happens to this old
Speaker 2: business model? Now that's no longer the shiny new thing
Speaker 2: it is. We got to sort of raise prices because
Speaker 2: we just need to make more money from it. And
Speaker 2: they're putting in ub Soft Plus Classics, which everyone's been
Speaker 2: clamoring for. Please give us our ub Soft Plus Classics,
Speaker 2: is what the kids on the street are saying. And
Speaker 2: they put in Fortnite Crew. It's called Fortnite Creue. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the battle Pass thing or you know, you know.
Speaker 3: Get the V Bucks and stuff like that, and yeah
Speaker 3: for people to play.
Speaker 2: Fortnite, like you're gonna be able to do some math here,
Speaker 2: but be like, oh, I get these games, and I
Speaker 2: get four Ande Crew, maybe I'll play Ubi Soft games.
Speaker 2: Some people are gonna be able to justify it, but
Speaker 2: most people, I think are just gonna see thirty dollars
Speaker 2: say I'm.
Speaker 3: Out of here, and we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not done right. The price doesn't stop here, it's
Speaker 2: going to be forty dollars a month.
Speaker 3: That couple of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I thought they'd do like two dollars and
Speaker 2: fifty cents per per increase, right, small five percent increases
Speaker 2: here or there, a fifty percent increase and one go
Speaker 2: is bananas, and it says, oh, we can just keep
Speaker 2: going up from here, Like fifty dollars a month is
Speaker 2: probably not off the table within the next ten years
Speaker 2: for this thing, and maybe that's longer than really it
Speaker 2: will take for them to get there. And then meanwhile,
Speaker 2: because of all this, there's a lot of like bad
Speaker 2: vibes around the Xbox brand. Some rumors began to spread
Speaker 2: that they are kind of changing their plans for doing
Speaker 2: a full on Xbox next Gen thing. There's been some
Speaker 2: back and forth about this. Xbox did come out and
Speaker 2: point out, hey, we have a deal with AMD to
Speaker 2: make a system on a chip for our next hardware.
Speaker 2: We are going to We're still in this. Now, what
Speaker 2: exactly does that look like? Is it going to look
Speaker 2: a lot like a traditional Xbox? Well, the rumors for
Speaker 2: a long time have been no, it's going to be
Speaker 2: a PC basically that has some Windows OS version on
Speaker 2: it that makes it feel like a console.
Speaker 3: I to me that I think that's still there.
Speaker 2: Focus is make Windows based Xboxes and change up the
Speaker 2: strategy in that way. But they claim that they're still
Speaker 2: making Xboxes going forward. We've talked about that a bunch
Speaker 2: of times. But I don't know what do you guys
Speaker 2: even want or expect from the next Xbox.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine what I think i'd possibly
Speaker 3: do to make it exciting anymore. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think they are a bit out of a crossroads
Speaker 4: where it's like.
Speaker 3: The time to Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I always and maybe this is just like an antiquated
Speaker 4: way to think any more, of like the combining of
Speaker 4: like their their PC lane with the idea of owning
Speaker 4: a console, where it's like, maybe Xbox is just an idea,
Speaker 4: let alone a thing you can turn on and off.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's certainly, especially as we end
Speaker 4: this generation, having this kind of negative momentum is not
Speaker 4: setting them up for anything.
Speaker 2: Xbox is dedicated handheld. Meanwhile, that thing that was rumored
Speaker 2: a long time ago, separate from the Asus Roger ally
Speaker 2: Xbox X whatever the fuck it's called.
Speaker 1: This is a separate from that.
Speaker 2: There was rumors about why that was canceled, and it's
Speaker 2: because apparently AMD was like, hey, we'll make you this chip,
Speaker 2: you have to guarantee you you'll buy ten million of them.
Speaker 2: An Xbox like, oh, well, you know the steam decks
Speaker 2: only sold five million. We're afraid to commit to that now.
Speaker 2: Jess Gordon's come on and said that the story is
Speaker 2: not true. He didn't say exactly what part of the
Speaker 2: story's not true, although I imagine it's this thing right
Speaker 2: here where it's like AMD demanded ten million chips. That
Speaker 2: sounds not right to me because AMD has definitely made
Speaker 2: fewer chips for that for people before. But maybe something
Speaker 2: about this requires so much effort that I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, why wouldn't they just use something off
Speaker 2: the shelf like everything else does Steam Deck the Roger
Speaker 2: ally just use one of those and build your OSS
Speaker 2: on top of that. None of that really sounds right
Speaker 2: to me, But whatever, For some reason, Xbox did put
Speaker 2: their handheld They're dedicated handheld on hold, which again says
Speaker 2: to me, they're going to focus on the OS. We'll
Speaker 2: see that Roger is that thing out out yet or
Speaker 2: is it about to be a yeah, okay, uh and
Speaker 2: then last thing here still Xbox. Virtuos is currently working
Speaker 2: on a remake of Halo Combat Evolved. According to a rumor,
Speaker 2: this is the team that that that did Metal Gear
Speaker 2: Solid Delta. They did something else recently, They did Oblivion
Speaker 2: with Xbox, and it sounds like they're gonna do something
Speaker 2: similar here where they're going to take the underlying tech
Speaker 2: of Halo Combat Evolved and then take the unreal Engine
Speaker 2: five and apply that visual polish on top of that.
Speaker 2: And Virtuous has some experience with that, so uh, It's
Speaker 2: not not necessarily what I'm craving for, But but I think,
Speaker 2: you know, this does give them a chance to maybe
Speaker 2: buy Halo some time, reintroduce it to people who might
Speaker 2: not be on board with that, and put it out
Speaker 2: on PlayStation and Switch and sort of say, hey, like you,
Speaker 2: maybe do you care about Halo. Shit, we do another
Speaker 2: one of these, a new one of these, and put
Speaker 2: it out everywhere. But I don't know, it just really
Speaker 2: feels like Halo's time has passed.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean, they could always bounce back the boy. They
Speaker 3: can't mess this one up, though. This thing has to
Speaker 3: come out and be pretty pristine if they want to
Speaker 3: repair Halo's image. And that Oblivion remake was pretty good,
Speaker 3: but it was very heavy and it was not running
Speaker 3: great on a lot of platforms, and I don't think
Speaker 3: people are going to tolerate that. Again, this should be
Speaker 3: an easier ass This isn't some giant open world game
Speaker 3: like Oblivion is. It has open areas, for sure, but yeah,
Speaker 3: they gotta nail this one. It can't look weird, it
Speaker 3: can't run weird. It's gotta basically be Halo one, but
Speaker 3: much prettier. It's gotta have all the multiplayer stuff people want.
Speaker 3: The gunplay needs to feel just right. It sounds like
Speaker 3: a safe thing to do and yet also a difficult ask.
Speaker 1: And that does it for the news. Jan the show
Speaker 1: is back over to you. Grab. Can I posit a
Speaker 1: question to you? Please? What if they made Halo a
Speaker 1: rogue light? I mean, that's a good idea. That's that'd
Speaker 1: be fun, man, Yeah, let's do it. You know what
Speaker 1: else is age light?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I fully agree with you. What sounds like a great
Speaker 1: idea is taking a quick coffee break and then we'll
Speaker 1: be back with emails. And super chats and who knows
Speaker 1: what else we'll be back with. We'll see on the
Speaker 1: other side. Rub It's okay, just look at it. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Well wait, damn, what are you doing here?
Speaker 6: Oh like like existentially or what do you mean?
Speaker 1: No, Dan, like here a giant bomb covering games?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Oh what I do for a living? Okay, Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: Now, Danny boy, I see that you're holding a magazine
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Speaker 1: Magazines like emails and a little coffee break to re
Speaker 1: energize you. Sometimes the coffee break is just shaking it out,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: We'll try and read it.
Speaker 4: Not enough about Mike actually about the time he got
Speaker 4: some attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. We talked about this on the
Speaker 1: dump truck. We're getting too many calls about Mike. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'll take it. It's fine. He's
Speaker 1: selling hats, you're selling shirts. I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Three to the four to the five to the putt
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Speaker 1: Right the greatest week of all time?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's uh.
Speaker 3: That's Pandemonium's uh song. Cut from quotes from Craig Stadler
Speaker 3: and Pebble Beach Golf links.
Speaker 1: Well, let's just do this whole segment again. Email's first
Speaker 1: email comes from David from St. Charles, Illinois. Hey, dudes,
Speaker 1: every now and then, I asked myself dumb questions that
Speaker 1: asking out loud would likely get dumb looks. I routinely
Speaker 1: asked myself what do other people do when with their
Speaker 1: other arm when brushing their teeth? The reason I ask
Speaker 1: is because sometimes I notice myself clenching a fist for
Speaker 1: the entire duration, sometimes just passively scratching, or sometimes just dangling.
Speaker 1: Most everyone else likely has never thought about this, but
Speaker 1: I'm curious what others say. David from Saint Charles, Dan dangle,
Speaker 1: just like you know, hanging, I do? What do you do? Phone?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: No, that's only when I'm pissing at a urinal in public.
Speaker 4: Jan No, I, I just I have like my fort
Speaker 4: it's like straightened out up against the counter, just sort
Speaker 4: of like I make it straight, kind of like working
Speaker 4: it out a little bit, hands on the sink, like
Speaker 4: straight down to like support yourself for Yeah, just kind
Speaker 4: of like lean into.
Speaker 3: It, give it a little stretchy pooh.
Speaker 6: I'll brush my teeth and figure this out. Is there
Speaker 6: something fish he does?
Speaker 1: He could have just pretended to do it. He didn't
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: In the stream, before he gets back, we clean, like
Speaker 3: or clean the sink bowl as we're brushing. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: sometimes I do. I walk around and do other stuff too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll clean the mirror a little bit while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe trim an eyebrow, pluck a.
Speaker 1: Couple I can't do that with the lefty, No way.
Speaker 3: Jam.
Speaker 4: When he comes back, just tell him we moved on
Speaker 4: and whatever he has to say is irrelevant.
Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna have to We're not going to
Speaker 1: wait for him to come back. Of course, do you
Speaker 1: think he's out there right now brushing his teeth instead
Speaker 1: of bringing it over here. No, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to think there because he wants to know okay. Well,
Speaker 1: next email comes from pile from Sorry, we moved on,
Speaker 1: We moved on. It was so interesting. No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: we told Sean to cut that email from No, you
Speaker 1: don't deserve No. I had a revelation that you're not
Speaker 1: going to know. I got my Keith.
Speaker 3: You're so bad.
Speaker 1: What a sucker? A sucker. I'm not saying for.
Speaker 3: No amount of Bullshitna, No.
Speaker 1: No, you're done. Move on, move on, move on, move
Speaker 1: on yourself. That very little Golf Week.
Speaker 3: God, thank you?
Speaker 1: Email okay. Email address emails to Cale from scotlet right
Speaker 1: said Hey, gang, in honor of Golf Week, which video
Speaker 1: game location would make the best golf course? And which
Speaker 1: character would you want to be your caddy for a
Speaker 1: round of golf? Thanks Kyle.
Speaker 3: Apparently the What Walk About Golf has a missed golf course.
Speaker 3: I don't know how we missed that. Yeah, morning missed
Speaker 3: the block. But yeah, we weren't going to put you
Speaker 3: in VR. You get dizzy?
Speaker 1: Oh that's VR. Yeah you should play VR. You like
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find the mis court, So that actually would
Speaker 3: be a great golf course.
Speaker 1: That's like the right answer.
Speaker 4: I think I think Mallard Duck has the right answer
Speaker 4: in Green Hill Zone is like the perfect.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 1: Shadow Moses, Shadow Moses would be cool. Right Sega did
Speaker 1: a tennis game?
Speaker 3: Did they do a golf game with golf?
Speaker 1: Be good? That had been awesome, just says Breath of
Speaker 1: the Wild. Jesus h golf mini game in there the
Speaker 1: most thing. Yeah, ye holes, yeah you went. I'm one
Speaker 1: from Doom's funny answers for this.
Speaker 5: I like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Spencer mansion that makes no sense putt putt though,
Speaker 3: will be more putt putt fitting. Yeah, that'd be good.
Speaker 1: Silent Hill for golf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big crocodile fish then comes out and bites
Speaker 2: your ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should actually make a residevil Minnie golf spin.
Speaker 1: Actually, that'd be great. That'd be cool. I love that
Speaker 1: Silent Hill would be challenging because it would just be
Speaker 1: nothing but fog all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no visibility, like Silent Hill is so fog based,
Speaker 3: And we didn't have a Silent Hill game in the
Speaker 3: N sixty four, the most foggy console of all time.
Speaker 1: Surprising.
Speaker 3: I think about that a lot.
Speaker 5: Think about it all the time, keeps me up at
Speaker 5: night is going to be like you know what Bill
Speaker 5: Murray said to Scarlett Johansson and yeah lost in translation,
Speaker 5: there's gonna be like, there's gonna be like essays.
Speaker 1: About whatever you could tell anyone.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: You could never tell Mike.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell anyone, Okay, if that's fine.
Speaker 1: Definitely not Mike.
Speaker 3: No, are you over it? Mike?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 1: No, no, he's not. God it must be did your
Speaker 1: brothers fuck with you? Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, man, if you were my younger brother, I would.
Speaker 3: Just be going down every day, not as much as
Speaker 3: others outside. Chris, my younger brother did it the most.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he's well, you're not the youngest that
Speaker 3: you can't do it. He's the middle. He's not how
Speaker 3: it's supposed to work.
Speaker 1: I'm aware.
Speaker 2: How it's like needs the most attention and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: What a huge what a huge win for your youngest brother,
Speaker 4: he Chris, Yeah, right, friend Tom from London rights and
Speaker 4: hi guys, I decided, rather than keeping up with all
Speaker 4: the excellent game releases in twenty twenty five, Silk Song,
Speaker 4: Haities two, et.
Speaker 1: Cetera, I'm gonna save a ghost of Yotay for the
Speaker 1: holiday break at the end of the year, he feels
Speaker 1: like a good holiday game. Any of you have any
Speaker 1: memorable holiday games or are you saving any games for
Speaker 1: the holiday break? Cheers Tom from London.
Speaker 5: First Metrod Prime was I remember it was that Christmas
Speaker 5: I got the Platform Cube and Metrod Prime like bundle
Speaker 5: and it was like, oh.
Speaker 3: That was perfect.
Speaker 1: M that's a good one. I can't think of anything specific.
Speaker 3: I could see myself really digging into Yo Tai that
Speaker 3: is the one like during the holiday break perhaps, but gosh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't like distinguish in my mind, like when was
Speaker 3: that when I sat down to play this game a lot?
Speaker 3: When was it? I remember the one year on Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of it just watching D Space
Speaker 3: nine the video game.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told the one about Donkey Kung Country Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: a bunch, So this year I will I got someone
Speaker 2: mentioned Super Super Mario Galaxy to you, saving that for
Speaker 2: the holiday.
Speaker 1: I think I might do that as well.
Speaker 2: That's that sounds real good this year, like, okay, get
Speaker 2: the time off, maybe the Thanksgiving break even although I'll
Speaker 2: probably still be catching up on games at that point,
Speaker 2: so probably Christmas.
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones was a good holiday game from last year
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, yeah, I really like that.
Speaker 3: And like Metric Prime for is kind of coming out
Speaker 3: in that slot this year, so that could be that
Speaker 3: for sure, could be real good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, a couple more emails here. Caleb from London
Speaker 1: as well also writes in Dear BombCast ex Manchester United
Speaker 1: legend Wayne Rooney recent tribute recently attributed the team's success,
Speaker 1: including winning the Premier League, to the socom PSP game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is because during travel the team would play the
Speaker 1: game together, which he felt enhanced their communication and teamwork
Speaker 1: in a way which improved results on the pitch. My
Speaker 1: question is have you ever heard any other celebrity who
Speaker 1: have attributed any of their success to video games? And
Speaker 1: do you personally feel there were games which developed a
Speaker 1: skill which was useful or relevant to you outside of
Speaker 1: video games. Keep up the fantastic work, Caleb.
Speaker 3: There was that NASCAR driver recently who like did some
Speaker 3: where you like grinded the wall and then he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I learned that in the GameCube now car games the
Speaker 3: price it worked, Yeah, and it didn't like.
Speaker 2: He went from like he was not going to like
Speaker 2: make the playoff or something, and then because he did that,
Speaker 2: he went up like seven spots and made the playoff
Speaker 2: at the playoffs.
Speaker 3: It really worked.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And then they banned the move because it worked too well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's kind of super dangerous.
Speaker 3: Isn't that what the grandt Tourismo movie is trying to say?
Speaker 1: Pretty much?
Speaker 2: Movie is like a true story about a guy who
Speaker 2: is good good in Grand turismo and like want a
Speaker 2: competition to become a real race car driver, and then
Speaker 2: became a really good race car driver.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how true.
Speaker 2: That is, but I want to still do this business
Speaker 2: of Uh, there's an important thing in all sports footwork
Speaker 2: of being able to move your feet around and be
Speaker 2: able to like kind of like move like without like
Speaker 2: thinking about it too much, and kind of being fast
Speaker 2: on your toes And there is nothing better for practicing that.
Speaker 2: And I don't think they've ever like, there's no one
Speaker 2: in sports that has actually realized this.
Speaker 3: DDR.
Speaker 2: Getting good at DDR would make a quarterback better like
Speaker 2: running backs, like kind of like really any sport, I bet,
Speaker 2: being able to fastly quickly shift your weight from one
Speaker 2: side to the other without without really thinking I think
Speaker 2: that would be like one of those things where you
Speaker 2: could like run like a oh, I'm gonna help little
Speaker 2: lingers get better at baseball or whatever, and charge parents
Speaker 2: way too much money just to play DDR and be
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, just play that.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that could really work.
Speaker 4: I think, uh, it doesn't always translate, but I do
Speaker 4: think sports games obviously not the skill of the sport,
Speaker 4: but understanding the broad strokes of the game and strategy
Speaker 4: I think is helpful. You know, Like, you know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot like right now, with the age that deplays
Speaker 4: hockey at, you've got a lot of kids who like
Speaker 4: clearly watch a lot of hockey and kids who clearly don't.
Speaker 4: So there is a lot of positioning there that I think,
Speaker 4: you know, makes a lot of sense. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know, like actual you've heard it before. I do
Speaker 4: thinking the way Rooney's describing it, where it's like attributing
Speaker 4: a mechanism of like communication, right, yeah, sure, Like this
Speaker 4: is the thing that kept me sane, cooperation separate from like,
Speaker 4: oh I learned how to grind rails by playing right,
Speaker 4: of course.
Speaker 1: I had a friend that like picked up the drums
Speaker 1: because of rock band and always like a pretty decent
Speaker 1: drummer like before Homie could not keep rhythm for shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for rock band specifically, that's probably the
Speaker 4: only instrument you can really well, aside keeping time.
Speaker 3: Man Rocksmith, which is like actual guitars. Right really, it's
Speaker 3: always more like a guitar learning software than it is.
Speaker 1: Right right, all right. Last email of the show comes
Speaker 1: from Matt from Mesa, Hey, big Bamo boys. You know
Speaker 1: that oh deer diner thermis that keeps selling out for
Speaker 1: Alan awake too? What if Luca dear diner thermos importantly
Speaker 1: not a mug, but it also holds coffee.
Speaker 3: And it's a dumb video game slash GB joke.
Speaker 1: Years Matt for Mason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thermiss are cool.
Speaker 1: I got no. I have no issue with thermises.
Speaker 3: Everybody. Let it be known because they don't impact it,
Speaker 3: don't chatter on impact or through shipping. Yes, exactly. I
Speaker 3: got one from SGF when I saw the theater demo
Speaker 3: of actually that they note it later. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: do have one, and it's very nice. Oh I would
Speaker 3: have said it to you if I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the thought. At least mikey folks.
Speaker 3: That does it.
Speaker 1: For emails, mister menoni, do we have any YouTube super chats?
Speaker 3: We absolutely do. Uh And since I need to kill
Speaker 3: time because I haven't pulled them up yet, let me
Speaker 3: remind you about golf week. It's not just for us,
Speaker 3: it's for you. Store thought giant bomb dot com. Golfing
Speaker 3: is the national past time for whatever nation you reside in,
Speaker 3: or whatever nation you decide to admire the most. Okay,
Speaker 3: it will make you more virile, it will make you
Speaker 3: more attractive, it will increase your intelligence beams, which is yes,
Speaker 3: we call how brains work. Go to store dot giant
Speaker 3: on dot com. Just buy a shirt and hat. Please please,
Speaker 3: I'm begging you buy it, please please.
Speaker 4: Please, but please do not wear jeans on the golf course,
Speaker 4: please please.
Speaker 3: Whatever you do, is.
Speaker 1: That really taboo? The golf you can do?
Speaker 4: You can do most Some courses have like rule it's whatever,
Speaker 4: I'm just making fun of my okay, but like, uh,
Speaker 4: but you look, it's a sport.
Speaker 3: Like how much you know you're gonna gonna fucking play sports?
Speaker 3: And jeans that's another thing. It's definitely a sport, for sure,
Speaker 3: But like you know, it's golf is also a sport, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're without running, let's be clear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, if you're walking the course, you'll
Speaker 4: feel it. You don't want to be wearing jeans walking
Speaker 4: the course, even taking a cart.
Speaker 1: You don't want to.
Speaker 4: You don't want to wear jeans, man, jeans are too hot.
Speaker 4: You gotta wear something breathe that breathes better.
Speaker 3: Of course, no argument.
Speaker 4: No serious person plays golf in jeans.
Speaker 3: But all right, I remember when I get into I'll
Speaker 3: remember that. Thank you. I can't wait to play around
Speaker 3: the golf with you.
Speaker 4: Mike.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all.
Speaker 1: It'll be great.
Speaker 3: It'll be great, and I know that you'll be doing
Speaker 3: it in your very own golf shirt from Giant Bombs.
Speaker 1: Giant bomb dot com.
Speaker 3: Has prof says, are you all going to play the
Speaker 3: golf games in UFO fifty? Oh?
Speaker 1: We may not have time. It is not gonna have
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: It is while how many golf games there are that
Speaker 3: are worth playing? Because you know, like yeah, like you know,
Speaker 3: people brought up sim golf, which I love. I don't
Speaker 3: know how easy that is to play these days.
Speaker 2: You know, what I want to do is like maybe
Speaker 2: for one of these slots still take biz Hawk and
Speaker 2: put a bunch of golf games in there, and is
Speaker 2: that the one that does the randomize? Yes, and I
Speaker 2: could like see like how many of them I could
Speaker 2: complete a round in or whatever, because I.
Speaker 3: Would love it for just like stop and shift right.
Speaker 1: In the middle of a swing. That'd be really fun.
Speaker 5: Would definitely, I mean, you could set it to be like,
Speaker 5: you know whatever, your one second to one minute intervals randomly.
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, man, I might look into that.
Speaker 3: Grog says, what if Mike never takes that shirt off
Speaker 3: all week? Yeah, look after this one is probably gonna
Speaker 3: get a wash, now, you know, I got to make
Speaker 3: sure everybody knows.
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you know all kidding?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 4: Do you know if it's like a air dry only
Speaker 4: I feel like it might be one of those.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's air dry, No, okay, I think
Speaker 3: I think it just goes in with a normal wash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, buy two shirts then they're disposable folks by
Speaker 1: five right now so that you destroy it clear? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe check. I put all the info there,
Speaker 3: but I think it's fine on the store store at
Speaker 3: gifon dot com. How shaky talking about our bonton just
Speaker 3: no Mario party hashtag never forget. We'll probably have to
Speaker 3: do something Mario.
Speaker 1: No, well asked the you brought us up.
Speaker 3: That's a question now, like do we play Mario party
Speaker 3: because it's the tradition it's kind of funny, how it's bullshit?
Speaker 3: Or do we play Lego party because it's better and
Speaker 3: more fun.
Speaker 1: We could have an incentive and people can just like animals.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is it a Lego party party or a Mario
Speaker 6: party party?
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the trolley problem, Like we just have the.
Speaker 6: Incentive be the party party, and then we have to
Speaker 6: run the thing once.
Speaker 1: Its both at the same time.
Speaker 3: I don't care what a think about it.
Speaker 1: Dan No, no, don't let him think about it. Super chats,
Speaker 1: keep reading super chests.
Speaker 3: Ep Idiot Box says idea fact your life. The main
Speaker 3: character and glove whun leash only wears green key out
Speaker 3: her wardrobe and play nubes over her clothes.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, and her entire apartment green.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's a lot of green. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, let's do the Binurmal audio you have love
Speaker 1: on a leash like playing at a top channel and then.
Speaker 5: Writing die, I'm writing some things down goals and incentives tab. Okay,
Speaker 5: so we've got Lego party, Mario party simultaneous and what
Speaker 5: was the Okay, I don't know if we can green screen.
Speaker 6: Maybe we just have two TVs going.
Speaker 1: No, we just have to edit it. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it on nob nubes
Speaker 6: on a leash, nubes on a leash.
Speaker 1: And then we do what if we did spatial Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: hear me out spatial audio the leash lounge or love
Speaker 1: on a nubes leash has to be in v R
Speaker 1: and then wherever you look is what you're listening to.
Speaker 5: Oh, if you can make that happen. And then in
Speaker 5: the leash lounge if somebody has to do VR, they
Speaker 5: are not.
Speaker 6: Getting any controls. They can't do anything.
Speaker 5: And it's max volume, not max volume of Jesus Ut
Speaker 5: except from Tyrant.
Speaker 3: Everyone should have their own punishment room. They should have
Speaker 3: to watch either Peppa Pig or Ben and Hawley. Speaking
Speaker 3: of bad list pitchforks one hundred rap LP apparently, if
Speaker 3: people weren't.
Speaker 1: Happy with that one, she's fucking garbage. Don't get me
Speaker 1: started on this one.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, let's see what Let me see what
Speaker 3: number one is real quick. Maybe I'll see if I
Speaker 3: recognize it. Number one squirrel scull scroll scroll.
Speaker 6: Is is it ready to if that's wrong? If it's
Speaker 6: not mob.
Speaker 3: Deep the Infamous from nineteen ninety old. Wow, interesting that
Speaker 3: six thousand says Top Golf has a green Hills zone course.
Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense. They have the sonic thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, that's right. They did do that, right,
Speaker 3: And then Antoyo where else says do golf month? It's
Speaker 3: out of golf week, penis. Uh boy, we.
Speaker 1: Could the whole month of golf. Could it be done?
Speaker 1: In our hearts, it can be.
Speaker 3: If you order your own golf shirt and golf half
Speaker 3: from sort of giant on dot com, you can celebrate
Speaker 3: golf week the entire year long.
Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah, yeah, I mean, who knows. We could
Speaker 1: fill out a whole month with golf and golf related
Speaker 1: things that people spell during golf.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: We could do another spelling bl right again.
Speaker 3: When I l I g an, it was not a
Speaker 3: challenge Dan, it was not a challenge spelled Craig Stadler r.
Speaker 1: G S T A D or t D. I think
Speaker 1: it's D. I think it's l E. R. Craig Stadler
Speaker 1: A D. All right, Mikey any more super chats or
Speaker 1: is that it that.
Speaker 3: Looks like it's it. I'll do a quick refresh here
Speaker 3: to make sure. But I think we're I think we're
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 1: But uh nope, we're good. We're good.
Speaker 3: Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for your emails, thank you everyone for
Speaker 1: your super chats, thank you everyone for celebrating Golf Week
Speaker 1: with us. So far, it's only day two. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: We got so much more golf headed to your eyeballs
Speaker 1: and speaking about eyeballs. All of the podcasts are now
Speaker 1: available in video form on Spotify. If there is another
Speaker 1: podcast platform that you choose and prefer and that supports video,
Speaker 1: I'll go investigate. Well, we'll see it then. Also reminders
Speaker 1: from the tippy Top of the of the show. You
Speaker 1: may be receiving an email not from us, but you know,
Speaker 1: not today, not tomorrow, maybe in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Just some important information about how to migrate everything over
Speaker 1: to the news site once that gets going, and speaking
Speaker 1: about a couple of weeks, Gang tippy Top. But if
Speaker 1: in case you missed it in case you came late.
Speaker 1: The Giant Bombathon returns to the East Coast. We're headed back,
Speaker 1: not just all five of us. We got Chuck, we
Speaker 1: got turned about Sean as well. Coming out east Monday,
Speaker 1: October twenty seventh. We're going full twenty four hours. Baby,
Speaker 1: we go from Monday to Tuesday. We'll do a podcast
Speaker 1: in there. I guess now there's gonna be a Nubes
Speaker 1: love on a leash lounge whole thing. But lots of
Speaker 1: fun shenanigans are planned. We hope to see u. Just
Speaker 1: just hey, hang out with us for the whole time.
Speaker 1: If you can, we love you. Anything else going on gang.
Speaker 6: Blake Club tomorrow, Grub, Did you send me a hat?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I forgot to do that.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can go and ship to
Speaker 1: you like and have it delivered in one day.
Speaker 6: Overnight civil war hat, overnight civil war butt they have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Go to that spirit. Ye yeah, true, I was in
Speaker 1: on this weekend. I could door dash it to you.
Speaker 1: I'd be absurd, so stupid, that's irresponsible, right right right.
Speaker 1: Like we mentioned, we're going to be going against Game
Speaker 1: Informer tomorrow in Everybody's golf to continue the Golf Week Shenanigans.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go flip some coins after Blake Club, but
Speaker 1: no one has to worry their pretty little heads about that.
Speaker 1: On Thursday, we're also gonna be playing Nintendo Switch Sports golf.
Speaker 1: But then on the dump truck we got our dear
Speaker 1: old friend, old friend Jordan Old's joining us. That's right.
Speaker 1: Guarcinio Hall is on the pod this Thursday Friday. We're
Speaker 1: ending the week with some Mario golf, and then it's
Speaker 1: gonna go golf with our friends, golf with friends in fact, gang.
Speaker 1: I believe that is it. Of course, Games Mornings popp
Speaker 1: an Olf Wednesday, Thursday Friday. That about does it for
Speaker 1: this week's episode of the Giant BombCast, I love you
Speaker 1: and I hope that you never forget that. You can
Speaker 1: head to store not Giant bombs dot Com not only
Speaker 1: buy any of his golf Week March, but anything else
Speaker 1: on there. Mike, quick, quick, what else should they buy?
Speaker 1: Yelp go, that's right, he's he's been, Mike. He's theer stabber.
Speaker 1: He screams when he argues he's been ship store that
Speaker 1: giapod cop.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: My god, I've been gentle seeing up for another week.
Speaker 1: Another episode of The Jopop Guys Goodbye,