WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.919 Hey everybody. Dano here and welcome to the show. This 2 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:04.559 week we're going to be giving you one of our 3 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:07.440 Patreon exclusive reviews and we giveing it to you for free. 4 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:10.080 And since the Oscar nominations have just been announced, I've 5 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:13.119 gone ahead and chosen A Star as Burns, an episode 6 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.679 that we were reviewed a couple of years ago, and 7 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.239 with Guy being a film reviewer for thirty plus years, 8 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:20.320 this was right up. He's ali. There are so many 9 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:23.000 classic moments in this episode, and it's actually one that 10 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.559 has one of the more interesting backstories as well from 11 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.440 a production perspective. So we get into all of that 12 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:30.879 and more, but just quickly, before we get into the review, 13 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:32.920 I'd love to remind you that you can support the 14 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.240 show for as little as just one dollar per month, 15 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.600 one single dollar ado per month. It all goes a 16 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.560 long way to ensuring we can afford to pay our 17 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:42.799 editors and buy new equipment, etc. And continue to provide 18 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.399 you with top quality content each and every week for 19 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:47.679 now though, thanks again for tuning in and enjoy our 20 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.240 review of A Star as Burns. 21 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:53.320 Welcome to Coming Attractions. I'm your host, Jay Sherman. 22 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:54.119 Thank Gil. 23 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:58.439 Tonight we review an aging Charles Bronson in Death Wish 24 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:03.280 nine Wish I was dead. Hey, but first we have 25 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:08.599 a special guest, Rainier Wolfcastle, star of the reprehensible McBain 26 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.799 movie Day. 27 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.879 My new film is a mix of action and comedy. 28 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:17.840 It's called mcpain. Let's get silly. Did you ever notice 29 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.640 how man always leave the toilet seat up? That's the joke. 30 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.040 You suck, McMain. 31 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:32.640 Now my woody Alian impression. I'm a Eurotic nerd who 32 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.359 likes to sleep with little girls. 33 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:35.840 Hey, never really sucked. 34 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.439 The film is just me in front of a break 35 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.400 world for an hour and a half. It cost eighty 36 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:46.640 million dollars. 37 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.040 How do you sleep at night on top of a. 38 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.680 Pile of money with many beautiful ladies? 39 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:53.840 Just ask him? 40 00:01:54.200 --> 00:02:02.879 Yesh? 41 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:07.560 Do do do? Never gets thick of that music doing, 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:08.639 mister Davis. 43 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:10.960 We absolutely do not, mister Dando. 44 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.520 That's just I had of my notes. If every episode 45 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:16.599 of the Simpson started with the Iron Springfield theme, I'll 46 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:21.080 be fine with that. It just when it plays, it 47 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.759 just puts you in a really positive mindset. It's great. 48 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.280 And that sushi being dropped in the hot tub is 49 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:28.639 one of my favorite visuals and the history of Simpsons, 50 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.479 just Brockman's realizing the dropped in and then do just 51 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:33.719 the sheer joy and laughter afterwards, the greatest. 52 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:41.759 It's the perfect representation or recapture of just wonderful, tacky 53 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:46.280 eighties lifestyle programs in fourtainment infoertainment. 54 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:47.919 Yeah, exactly, so. 55 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.560 Always happy when we see Iron Springfield and always happy 56 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.360 to be doing Guy on Springfield. 57 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:58.479 Yeah, going back and revisiting the classics. And this month 58 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.159 the patrons have selected episode two F three to one 59 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.840 as star is Burns, arguably one of the most controversial 60 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:08.680 episodes of all time, particularly at Simpson's HQ. This created 61 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.800 a lot of bad blood. They were not Oh, the 62 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.280 majority were a fan. The majority didn't mind. But there 63 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.159 was one person in particular, the headhn show, the top dog, 64 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.039 the top billing, mister mac graney. He was not a 65 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:23.319 fan of this. He hated this one. He still hates it. 66 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.120 It's the episode that he tried to have stopped. He 67 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:28.479 didn't want to go to air. He went to the 68 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.599 press before it went to air and publicly acknowledged how 69 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.199 much he hated and didn't want to go to air, 70 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.039 and how he thought it was a bad idea and 71 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:37.360 he thought it was just product placement or just promotion 72 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.080 for a show that he had nothing to do with, 73 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.599 because The Critic was created by Al Geen and Mike Reese, 74 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:45.759 one of the I think they did the first season. 75 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.240 I'm pretty sure they were that were the producers for 76 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.400 the first four seasons, and they left after that to 77 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:54.039 pursue their own show, which is The Critic on another station. 78 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.080 And mac graney was not a fan of them returning 79 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.280 to promote their show because what happened was the show 80 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.599 didn't do very well well in its initial run. I 81 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:04.039 can't remember what station it was on. I apologize, guys 82 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.240 that the Critic I'm talking about. And the show was 83 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.319 also produced by James L. Brooks, who also does The Simpsons. 84 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:11.759 James L. Brooks made a deal for it to come 85 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.599 over to Fox, and as a way to promote the 86 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.519 new launch of The Critic on Fox, they thought they'd 87 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:19.920 do a ti in episode, and this was the first 88 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:21.839 time The Simpsons had ever done something like that, a 89 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.720 tie in with something else, and Granning just did not 90 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.360 want to do this at all, and I thought, I 91 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:31.279 can can understand why, But when you think about how 92 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.759 much dedication these two men and Brooks aside ol Gene 93 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.160 and Mike g Reecee how much they dedicated their lives 94 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.160 to giving you the best possible product, ensuring the Simpsons 95 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.040 became the success that it did. You know that the 96 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.279 sixteen hour day is just seven days a week, just bam, babe. 97 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.959 It was their life ensuring that this became the best 98 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.879 show of all time, And they just wanted a little 99 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.560 bit in return. And Matt Granning's like, not not fuckys 100 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.800 not bad idea, went to the press and given upon reflection, 101 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.839 it's okay, if you did like it, that's fine. That's 102 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.519 that's his opinion. But to go to the press steady 103 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.279 making it, making it all public, that just seems ridiculous 104 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:08.720 and childish in my opinion. 105 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.920 Kind of dickish is the first word that springs to 106 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.279 mind when I when I'd read a little bit about 107 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.120 the story. But yeah, hearing it to this degree, it's like, oh, Matt, 108 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.399 come on, man, you know, be a bit of a 109 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:22.000 team player. 110 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:22.720 And it's. 111 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.319 To the Simpsons, credit to the credits. Credit that everyone 112 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.920 involves credit except maybe Matt Groening's I mean they acknowledge, 113 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.480 oh you know, they poke fun at the fact. Look, 114 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:37.199 this is a bit opportunistic and you know they have it. 115 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.920 They crack jokes about it during the episode. How how 116 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:42.519 much of a bit of a tie in and a 117 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.040 cash in it is? So you know, they they approached 118 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.040 it in the in the true Simpsons fashion. So I 119 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.680 cannot Yeah, like you, I can understand why he'd have 120 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:53.800 an issue with it. 121 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.720 I think you know, the first probably the first. 122 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.000 Name you think of when you think of the simpence 123 00:05:58.079 --> 00:05:59.000 is Matt Groening. 124 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:02.160 Right, yeah, when you think of who created the Simpsons, 125 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:02.759 it's Matt Graning. 126 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you're gonna be a bit possessive 127 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.360 of your baby, but still, man, come on, by this stage, 128 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.720 by season six, it's not outgrown you, but it has 129 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:16.120 become very much its own beast. 130 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.079 Yeah, this is the thing. I understand. You created the characters, 131 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.680 but you didn't really create the show. You created the characters. 132 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:24.199 James L. 133 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.800 Brooks created the Simpsons the TV show. 134 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:27.079 Right. 135 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.199 If it wasn't for James L. Brooks, you wouldn't be 136 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.000 living in your mansion. Matt Granning, you know what I mean. 137 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.399 He gave you that chance. So they just want one 138 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.720 little chance to help co promote their show. And it's 139 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:37.160 not like as you're saying, it's not like they just 140 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.959 completely took over the show. They tied it in quite well, 141 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.480 and they poked fun at themselves. And Matt Granning's like, nah, 142 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.600 and today I just thought, after reading that he went 143 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.519 public with it, I thought, that's it's pretty pathetic. Really, 144 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:48.399 it is. 145 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.040 Pathetic, but you know it's not pathetic this episode. 146 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.360 Yeah, and it's funny because this episode just got panned. 147 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.680 People did not like this episode. They thought it was 148 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.639 really outside of the normal what the Simpsons was. They 149 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.680 thought it felt too as we were just saying, it didn't. 150 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.759 It didn't feel like a tie in to the point 151 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:06.839 where it was just over the top. Everyone thought, oh, 152 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.680 this was just an excuse to promote a show that 153 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.199 had nothing to do with The Simpsons, But I thought so. 154 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.120 I remember as a kid not really understanding exactly what 155 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.600 the hell was going on and why so much of 156 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.680 the episode was dedicated to this character that I had 157 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.160 no idea who he was. And then I remember always thinking, 158 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.079 this guy doesn't seem like a very nice person, seems 159 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.040 like a bit of a dick, and in never returned, 160 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.720 and I was like, whatever had I known? Had I 161 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.160 been a bit older and understood the whole point of 162 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.800 the episode. It makes it that much more enjoyable. You 163 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.000 understand the jokes like a cheap TV crossover at the end. 164 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:41.360 You know, if you ever want to visit my show, 165 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.360 ah no, we're never going to be doing that. Jokes 166 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:44.399 like that straight out of my head. When I was 167 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.000 a little kid, I had no idea what the critic was, 168 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.000 and you know I would have I would dare say 169 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.160 even people who were a bit older. The critic was 170 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.240 that even a show in Australia, it would have been 171 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.600 lost on international viewers as well, would it not? In 172 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:55.279 the night? I think so? 173 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.040 Yeah, to the best of mine, the best of my recollection. Yeah, 174 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:00.000 I never read on free. 175 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.399 I can't remember ever being on TV no. So it 176 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.639 was just it was a bit confusing, but it didn't 177 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.920 make the episode less enjoyable. Really, this episode, if we're 178 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:13.360 being honest, is probably the most ah not quote worthy, 179 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:15.959 but it's the most mean worthy episode of all time. 180 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:19.399 You've got that's the joke. Give that man the ten 181 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.040 thousand dollars. Just hook it to my veins. You are 182 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.160 the King of Kings. All these screenshots, they're like all 183 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:26.879 the fucking memes you can think of. You know, like 184 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.160 this episode is so it lives on so much now 185 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:32.799 in social media now. I think people at the time 186 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.039 just had no idea how ahead of the time it 187 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:36.080 kind of kind. 188 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:40.240 Of was absolutely the news outlet that I work for 189 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.919 in my day job. I can't tell you how many 190 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.720 times we've used the phrase, ah. 191 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.360 They said the quiet part loud and the loud part 192 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.440 quite another bit exactly. Yeah, there's so many quotes in 193 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.919 this episode that just are so applicable to everyday life. 194 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.000 And I think that's why it lives on now. And 195 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.399 I know Mike and Al they left at the end 196 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:01.799 of season four, came back to produce this one episode 197 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.600 because you know, the critic was their baby, and it 198 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:08.039 just screams classic Simpsons as a result, doesn't it that 199 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:12.159 the story itself, Yeah, whatever, but just the moments throughout 200 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.360 just screams Season four Simpsons. 201 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:18.799 Absolutely, it's got a terrific sense of humor. But I'm 202 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.679 going to disagree with this lightly in terms of the story. 203 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.120 I mean, we've been watching so many episodes lately where 204 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.240 it feels like that's a really dumb trick you're pulling 205 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.919 to get the to get the your inciting incident, to 206 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.519 get the story going to get the main thing happening 207 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.559 is really kind of weak. Watching this one is like, 208 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.320 oh no, you just ear in and out. I mean, 209 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.399 you know, Ken Brockwin does a news broadcast about guess well, 210 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.759 nobody likes Springfield. Sorry, everyone sounds like John Love's to me. 211 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.720 But it's like, oh, well, how are we going to 212 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:50.120 fix that? 213 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:50.559 Okay? 214 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.759 And you know you've got your main ideas sorted out 215 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.120 in about the space of two or three minutes. It's great. 216 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:59.120 And from there, you know, you can have all manner 217 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:02.039 of all manner of fun with all manner of different characters. 218 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.320 It's I think it's a really clever episode on one 219 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.240 that really takes advantage of the variety of characters throughout Springfield. 220 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:12.159 Yeah, I'll give you that. And I also remember feeling 221 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.519 very much like an event episode as well, because it 222 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:16.960 felt so different, And it didn't feel different because it 223 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.039 was bad. It just felt different because I was like, oh, 224 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.639 everyone's got their own short film. It wasn't really necessarily 225 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.240 like the Last Act isn't necessarily a story. It's just 226 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.080 sort of a bunch of short films and things like that. 227 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.759 But they're all really really funny and really well done, 228 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:30.960 and it's just I'm just I was so surprised to 229 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:34.519 go back and read so many not overly negative reviews, 230 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:36.840 but people going, eh, you know, it's got its moments, 231 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.320 but it's not that great. And I was like, really, 232 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:40.279 I got a lot of laughs out of this episode. 233 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.960 I thought it was really good. I really enjoyed it. 234 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.639 Yeah, I mean, I think the main sort of quote 235 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.279 unquote dramatic cook of the episode that you know, Homer 236 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:53.360 thinks Marge thinks he's dumb, and there's some sort of 237 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:57.120 rivalry between Homer and Jason. That's that doesn't really play 238 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.679 at all that much. It's not there's not a lot 239 00:10:58.720 --> 00:10:58.960 to that. 240 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:02.200 I would haven't really called that the major story. They 241 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:03.840 tried to sort of tap into that, but there's just 242 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:04.759 not much there is there. 243 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:06.480 No, Yeah, that's it. I don't think it's major at all. 244 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:09.240 But I think that that's like we're trying to add 245 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.399 a little bit of conflict in there, just to you know, 246 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:17.240 because stories new conflict. Yeah, but it does it doesn't 247 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.799 really add much to it. What did you think as 248 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:23.600 a crossover? Do you think they did a good job 249 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:25.799 of promoting the critic I don't think they did because 250 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.320 I was getting back to what I said before, where 251 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.240 I remember as a kid going, I don't like this character. 252 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.919 Seemed like an asshole. I don't know whether they didn't 253 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.639 give him any positive qualities Ja Sherman. In my opinion, 254 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.399 I've honestly, I've never watched the critic, so I'm not 255 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.240 sure what he's like on that show. But you've got 256 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.240 to give the character some sort of liability to make 257 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.000 people go, I want to see more of that guy. 258 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:46.679 By the end of it, I was like, I don't 259 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.159 want to see this guy on my screen anymore. He 260 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:48.919 just seems like a dick. 261 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.000 Look, I haven't watched the critic either. In all honesty, 262 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.159 I've seen you know, I was seeing little bits and 263 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:59.440 pieces here and there, but never a full episode, So 264 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.559 I mean, I be I'm not wholly across the tone 265 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.240 of the show. I think it's probably a bit more 266 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:06.879 grown up adult. 267 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.279 Yeah, people who are watching The Simpsons. I just don't 268 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.399 think the Critic was ever going to work as a crossover 269 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:14.519 because as an eight year old watching The Simpsons, I 270 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:16.720 was like, who is this guy? And why do I care? 271 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.879 Yeah, I hate when I use the term sophisticated about 272 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.879 the critic I'm not saying them that The Simpsons is 273 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:27.000 just dumb, but I think the critic sort of relies 274 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.159 on a few more references that might go over a 275 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.600 lot of people's heads, or based on what I've seen 276 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:34.600 of it, I feel. 277 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:35.840 Like the critic. To me, this seems like the Critic 278 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:37.679 would be a show that applies to the comic book 279 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.080 Guys of the World. Yeah, you're sort of you, you're snarky. 280 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.919 But saying that though, I like Seinfeld because I like 281 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.399 how they say what I think without things I would 282 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.039 never actually say, but things that I think, you know 283 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.120 that the negative aspect of life and what you think 284 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.480 of other people. But I just I don't know. I 285 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.440 feel like watching his first episode when I was a kid, 286 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.000 I didn't like it, didn't like him. I watch it 287 00:12:58.039 --> 00:12:59.480 now and at the end of us sort of went 288 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.679 I think Jay Sherman is someone that I can relate 289 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.320 to now, and I think I would want to see 290 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.600 more of him now. I think if they gave us 291 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:09.919 more of what he did on his show, because he 292 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.559 didn't see enough of him on his show, I don't 293 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.559 think to sort of make you want to see more 294 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:15.919 of that artist. I don't know, but do you think 295 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.080 that makes sense. Do you think they blended him into 296 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.559 the Simpsons universe? Well, what do you think overall? Would 297 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.519 you when you first watched this, would you have watched 298 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.200 the critic if they said starting next week the critic 299 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.519 on Channel ten? Would you have tuned into the critic 300 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.039 as a result? And at that stage of. 301 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.559 My love, absolutely, I'd be like, Oh, it seems like 302 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:38.600 a witty comedy in the Simpsons vein about something that 303 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.080 I'm interested in, but also with a bit more of 304 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:44.960 a little more acid to it, a little more bite 305 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.519 to it. Yeah, and the Simpsons has plenty of that. 306 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:50.559 The Simpsons isn't isn't done by any stretch or or 307 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.240 unsophisticated by any stretch. 308 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.960 But that's just feels it's not to appeal to children 309 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.919 at all. That's what the that's what that's the vibe 310 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.120 I get for the critic anyway. 311 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.559 Yeah, it's more for twenty somethings. Yeah, I think the 312 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:11.039 the audience starts at late precocious teens and but really 313 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:12.559 is for twenty and thirty somethings. 314 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.320 As a critic, did you like this episode? Oh? 315 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:17.320 Yeah, I thought it was hilarious. 316 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:22.279 Yeah, that's why I was just so surprised when when 317 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:25.360 I've read so much just just sort of I guess 318 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.559 the word to describe. The reviews of this episode were 319 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:30.200 all just like, eh, like, no one's see to have 320 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.120 many positive things to say about it, And I thought, 321 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:34.200 I don't know, maybe I'm going to be out of 322 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.440 the norm here because I wrote down a lot that 323 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:37.759 I liked about this episode. 324 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.440 No, I thought, I thought it was really really funny. 325 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.799 Hey, my favorite. So what were your favorite moments from 326 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:45.559 Staris Bands? 327 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.519 Oh gosh, broke out the green high lighter and there's 328 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.080 a fair bit on the page here. I mean, I 329 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.919 just love it when little supporting characters or side characters 330 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.679 or cameo characters that I did just show up, you know, 331 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.159 the reporter who's like, what a story? 332 00:14:58.799 --> 00:14:59.919 I mean, what's good? 333 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:06.559 And even the guy at the town meeting, you know 334 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.240 when Marge first stands up and says, oh much simp 335 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.360 and I have an idea. This guy just says, I 336 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:17.360 is going to see something like that. That was really good. 337 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:19.519 I thought there was a great payoff to the joke 338 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.759 when Jay's walking through New York and Radio Wolf because 339 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.120 you were making fun of me, you know, he pulls 340 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:31.960 the no, no, but j hey, your shoes aren tied. 341 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:34.879 The whole bit with a I would go in for 342 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:37.399 closer look and then you got that pause, got their 343 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:40.279 paws close inspection. He's a lost. 344 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.039 Just a great, a great button on that gag. I'm 345 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:45.919 just asking. 346 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.840 And just and also how Jay introduced himself when you 347 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:55.519 first see his show, and I am Jay Sherman. 348 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.679 How much of yourself do you see in j Sherman? 349 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.600 Is that like your stereotype what people think film critics arelike? 350 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.440 What do you see in the character of Ja Shoman 351 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:07.080 from what you saw? 352 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.080 I think that's the stereotype of what people think it's like, 353 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:14.399 and maybe it is for I think if you're going 354 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:16.559 to be a TV critic a film you know, a 355 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:19.960 movie critic on TV, like your your Roger Eberts or 356 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.399 your Gene Shallott's in the US. I mean we had 357 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.360 David Margaret here in Australia and they were a bit different. 358 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.840 I mean, they were very well, they were very Australian. 359 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.679 I mean they weren't sort of like the movie critics 360 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.879 on TV in the States, based on my exposure to them, 361 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.039 are usually kind of showman types, are larger than life 362 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.279 personality types, so they had to have a bit of 363 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.039 a either Oh that wacky person with their wacky opinions 364 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.799 or oh wow, and wonder how they're going to sledge 365 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.639 them this week or something along those lines. I mean 366 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.440 you're not really getting in depth film analysis and criticism. 367 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:57.399 You're getting like a two minute a three minute SoundBite, 368 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.960 you know, during a section of the Today Show or 369 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:01.679 something like that. 370 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.039 And as opposed as opposed to who was your hero 371 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.440 from the from the seventies and eighties? Did the Midday Show? Oh? 372 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.039 Ivan Hutchinson? Yeah, yeah, I mean he was very low key. 373 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.799 Yeah. I mean there were two guys in Australia who 374 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.759 were doing who were you know movie presenters on TV? 375 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:21.599 Ivan Hutchinson, who was, yeah, just a really sort of 376 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.640 low key dude, and Bill Collins, who was also he 377 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:29.000 was a bit more of the Even even doing this, 378 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:32.279 I'm over hyping him, but he was the golden years 379 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:35.960 of Hollywood. I mean he was more like, oh, yeah, 380 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.599 he's that eccentric uncle who knows a shit tone about 381 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.279 movies and will always tell you about them. And he 382 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.200 wasn't even he wasn't over the top. He was just 383 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.160 kind of really loved movies and it came through. 384 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.680 I really enjoyed the the sound effect used for the 385 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.039 football hitting the groin, I thought was just perfection. 386 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:52.880 Just that. 387 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:57.400 He can't sort of you can't say it, just you 388 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:59.039 can't make that sound like the sound that they use. 389 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.200 It's just so good. But Homer is absolute glee. After 390 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.079 watching for the first time and saying, give that many 391 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.000 ten thousand dollars that laugh from Dan, it just gets 392 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:07.720 me every time. 393 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.200 I think it's amazing. I love how you know you 394 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.880 can see the people around him. I think there's a 395 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.920 guy on the right hand side of the screen, some 396 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.519 redhead guy with the mustaches sort of doing the side 397 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.400 out of homes, like, oh god, this baffoon. 398 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:21.720 Yeah, but it's just so good. And another quote that 399 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:23.519 we forgot to mention earlier that gets used a lot 400 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.480 in real life now is I was saying buns of course. Yeah, 401 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:29.880