Speaker 1: Hey everybody. Dano here and welcome to the show. This
Speaker 1: week we're going to be giving you one of our
Speaker 1: Patreon exclusive reviews and we giveing it to you for free.
Speaker 1: And since the Oscar nominations have just been announced, I've
Speaker 1: gone ahead and chosen A Star as Burns, an episode
Speaker 1: that we were reviewed a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: with Guy being a film reviewer for thirty plus years,
Speaker 1: this was right up. He's ali. There are so many
Speaker 1: classic moments in this episode, and it's actually one that
Speaker 1: has one of the more interesting backstories as well from
Speaker 1: a production perspective. So we get into all of that
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Speaker 1: review of A Star as Burns.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Coming Attractions. I'm your host, Jay Sherman.
Speaker 3: Thank Gil.
Speaker 2: Tonight we review an aging Charles Bronson in Death Wish
Speaker 2: nine Wish I was dead. Hey, but first we have
Speaker 2: a special guest, Rainier Wolfcastle, star of the reprehensible McBain
Speaker 2: movie Day.
Speaker 4: My new film is a mix of action and comedy.
Speaker 4: It's called mcpain. Let's get silly. Did you ever notice
Speaker 4: how man always leave the toilet seat up? That's the joke.
Speaker 2: You suck, McMain.
Speaker 4: Now my woody Alian impression. I'm a Eurotic nerd who
Speaker 4: likes to sleep with little girls.
Speaker 3: Hey, never really sucked.
Speaker 4: The film is just me in front of a break
Speaker 4: world for an hour and a half. It cost eighty
Speaker 4: million dollars.
Speaker 1: How do you sleep at night on top of a.
Speaker 4: Pile of money with many beautiful ladies?
Speaker 2: Just ask him?
Speaker 3: Yesh?
Speaker 1: Do do do? Never gets thick of that music doing,
Speaker 1: mister Davis.
Speaker 5: We absolutely do not, mister Dando.
Speaker 1: That's just I had of my notes. If every episode
Speaker 1: of the Simpson started with the Iron Springfield theme, I'll
Speaker 1: be fine with that. It just when it plays, it
Speaker 1: just puts you in a really positive mindset. It's great.
Speaker 1: And that sushi being dropped in the hot tub is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite visuals and the history of Simpsons,
Speaker 1: just Brockman's realizing the dropped in and then do just
Speaker 1: the sheer joy and laughter afterwards, the greatest.
Speaker 5: It's the perfect representation or recapture of just wonderful, tacky
Speaker 5: eighties lifestyle programs in fourtainment infoertainment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so.
Speaker 5: Always happy when we see Iron Springfield and always happy
Speaker 5: to be doing Guy on Springfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back and revisiting the classics. And this month
Speaker 1: the patrons have selected episode two F three to one
Speaker 1: as star is Burns, arguably one of the most controversial
Speaker 1: episodes of all time, particularly at Simpson's HQ. This created
Speaker 1: a lot of bad blood. They were not Oh, the
Speaker 1: majority were a fan. The majority didn't mind. But there
Speaker 1: was one person in particular, the headhn show, the top dog,
Speaker 1: the top billing, mister mac graney. He was not a
Speaker 1: fan of this. He hated this one. He still hates it.
Speaker 1: It's the episode that he tried to have stopped. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to go to air. He went to the
Speaker 1: press before it went to air and publicly acknowledged how
Speaker 1: much he hated and didn't want to go to air,
Speaker 1: and how he thought it was a bad idea and
Speaker 1: he thought it was just product placement or just promotion
Speaker 1: for a show that he had nothing to do with,
Speaker 1: because The Critic was created by Al Geen and Mike Reese,
Speaker 1: one of the I think they did the first season.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they were that were the producers for
Speaker 1: the first four seasons, and they left after that to
Speaker 1: pursue their own show, which is The Critic on another station.
Speaker 1: And mac graney was not a fan of them returning
Speaker 1: to promote their show because what happened was the show
Speaker 1: didn't do very well well in its initial run. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what station it was on. I apologize, guys
Speaker 1: that the Critic I'm talking about. And the show was
Speaker 1: also produced by James L. Brooks, who also does The Simpsons.
Speaker 1: James L. Brooks made a deal for it to come
Speaker 1: over to Fox, and as a way to promote the
Speaker 1: new launch of The Critic on Fox, they thought they'd
Speaker 1: do a ti in episode, and this was the first
Speaker 1: time The Simpsons had ever done something like that, a
Speaker 1: tie in with something else, and Granning just did not
Speaker 1: want to do this at all, and I thought, I
Speaker 1: can can understand why, But when you think about how
Speaker 1: much dedication these two men and Brooks aside ol Gene
Speaker 1: and Mike g Reecee how much they dedicated their lives
Speaker 1: to giving you the best possible product, ensuring the Simpsons
Speaker 1: became the success that it did. You know that the
Speaker 1: sixteen hour day is just seven days a week, just bam, babe.
Speaker 1: It was their life ensuring that this became the best
Speaker 1: show of all time, And they just wanted a little
Speaker 1: bit in return. And Matt Granning's like, not not fuckys
Speaker 1: not bad idea, went to the press and given upon reflection,
Speaker 1: it's okay, if you did like it, that's fine. That's
Speaker 1: that's his opinion. But to go to the press steady
Speaker 1: making it, making it all public, that just seems ridiculous
Speaker 1: and childish in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Kind of dickish is the first word that springs to
Speaker 5: mind when I when I'd read a little bit about
Speaker 5: the story. But yeah, hearing it to this degree, it's like, oh, Matt,
Speaker 5: come on, man, you know, be a bit of a
Speaker 5: team player.
Speaker 1: And it's.
Speaker 5: To the Simpsons, credit to the credits. Credit that everyone
Speaker 5: involves credit except maybe Matt Groening's I mean they acknowledge,
Speaker 5: oh you know, they poke fun at the fact. Look,
Speaker 5: this is a bit opportunistic and you know they have it.
Speaker 5: They crack jokes about it during the episode. How how
Speaker 5: much of a bit of a tie in and a
Speaker 5: cash in it is? So you know, they they approached
Speaker 5: it in the in the true Simpsons fashion. So I
Speaker 5: cannot Yeah, like you, I can understand why he'd have
Speaker 5: an issue with it.
Speaker 1: I think you know, the first probably the first.
Speaker 5: Name you think of when you think of the simpence
Speaker 5: is Matt Groening.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, when you think of who created the Simpsons,
Speaker 1: it's Matt Graning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you're gonna be a bit possessive
Speaker 5: of your baby, but still, man, come on, by this stage,
Speaker 5: by season six, it's not outgrown you, but it has
Speaker 5: become very much its own beast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing. I understand. You created the characters,
Speaker 1: but you didn't really create the show. You created the characters.
Speaker 5: James L.
Speaker 1: Brooks created the Simpsons the TV show.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for James L. Brooks, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: living in your mansion. Matt Granning, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He gave you that chance. So they just want one
Speaker 1: little chance to help co promote their show. And it's
Speaker 1: not like as you're saying, it's not like they just
Speaker 1: completely took over the show. They tied it in quite well,
Speaker 1: and they poked fun at themselves. And Matt Granning's like, nah,
Speaker 1: and today I just thought, after reading that he went
Speaker 1: public with it, I thought, that's it's pretty pathetic. Really,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: Pathetic, but you know it's not pathetic this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because this episode just got panned.
Speaker 1: People did not like this episode. They thought it was
Speaker 1: really outside of the normal what the Simpsons was. They
Speaker 1: thought it felt too as we were just saying, it didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a tie in to the point
Speaker 1: where it was just over the top. Everyone thought, oh,
Speaker 1: this was just an excuse to promote a show that
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with The Simpsons, But I thought so.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid not really understanding exactly what
Speaker 1: the hell was going on and why so much of
Speaker 1: the episode was dedicated to this character that I had
Speaker 1: no idea who he was. And then I remember always thinking,
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't seem like a very nice person, seems
Speaker 1: like a bit of a dick, and in never returned,
Speaker 1: and I was like, whatever had I known? Had I
Speaker 1: been a bit older and understood the whole point of
Speaker 1: the episode. It makes it that much more enjoyable. You
Speaker 1: understand the jokes like a cheap TV crossover at the end.
Speaker 1: You know, if you ever want to visit my show,
Speaker 1: ah no, we're never going to be doing that. Jokes
Speaker 1: like that straight out of my head. When I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, I had no idea what the critic was,
Speaker 1: and you know I would have I would dare say
Speaker 1: even people who were a bit older. The critic was
Speaker 1: that even a show in Australia, it would have been
Speaker 1: lost on international viewers as well, would it not? In
Speaker 1: the night? I think so?
Speaker 5: Yeah, to the best of mine, the best of my recollection. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I never read on free.
Speaker 1: I can't remember ever being on TV no. So it
Speaker 1: was just it was a bit confusing, but it didn't
Speaker 1: make the episode less enjoyable. Really, this episode, if we're
Speaker 1: being honest, is probably the most ah not quote worthy,
Speaker 1: but it's the most mean worthy episode of all time.
Speaker 1: You've got that's the joke. Give that man the ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Just hook it to my veins. You are
Speaker 1: the King of Kings. All these screenshots, they're like all
Speaker 1: the fucking memes you can think of. You know, like
Speaker 1: this episode is so it lives on so much now
Speaker 1: in social media now. I think people at the time
Speaker 1: just had no idea how ahead of the time it
Speaker 1: kind of kind.
Speaker 5: Of was absolutely the news outlet that I work for
Speaker 5: in my day job. I can't tell you how many
Speaker 5: times we've used the phrase, ah.
Speaker 1: They said the quiet part loud and the loud part
Speaker 1: quite another bit exactly. Yeah, there's so many quotes in
Speaker 1: this episode that just are so applicable to everyday life.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it lives on now. And
Speaker 1: I know Mike and Al they left at the end
Speaker 1: of season four, came back to produce this one episode
Speaker 1: because you know, the critic was their baby, and it
Speaker 1: just screams classic Simpsons as a result, doesn't it that
Speaker 1: the story itself, Yeah, whatever, but just the moments throughout
Speaker 1: just screams Season four Simpsons.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's got a terrific sense of humor. But I'm
Speaker 5: going to disagree with this lightly in terms of the story.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've been watching so many episodes lately where
Speaker 5: it feels like that's a really dumb trick you're pulling
Speaker 5: to get the to get the your inciting incident, to
Speaker 5: get the story going to get the main thing happening
Speaker 5: is really kind of weak. Watching this one is like,
Speaker 5: oh no, you just ear in and out. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, Ken Brockwin does a news broadcast about guess well,
Speaker 5: nobody likes Springfield. Sorry, everyone sounds like John Love's to me.
Speaker 5: But it's like, oh, well, how are we going to
Speaker 5: fix that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: And you know you've got your main ideas sorted out
Speaker 5: in about the space of two or three minutes. It's great.
Speaker 5: And from there, you know, you can have all manner
Speaker 5: of all manner of fun with all manner of different characters.
Speaker 5: It's I think it's a really clever episode on one
Speaker 5: that really takes advantage of the variety of characters throughout Springfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you that. And I also remember feeling
Speaker 1: very much like an event episode as well, because it
Speaker 1: felt so different, And it didn't feel different because it
Speaker 1: was bad. It just felt different because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: everyone's got their own short film. It wasn't really necessarily
Speaker 1: like the Last Act isn't necessarily a story. It's just
Speaker 1: sort of a bunch of short films and things like that.
Speaker 1: But they're all really really funny and really well done,
Speaker 1: and it's just I'm just I was so surprised to
Speaker 1: go back and read so many not overly negative reviews,
Speaker 1: but people going, eh, you know, it's got its moments,
Speaker 1: but it's not that great. And I was like, really,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of laughs out of this episode.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really good. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the main sort of quote
Speaker 5: unquote dramatic cook of the episode that you know, Homer
Speaker 5: thinks Marge thinks he's dumb, and there's some sort of
Speaker 5: rivalry between Homer and Jason. That's that doesn't really play
Speaker 5: at all that much. It's not there's not a lot
Speaker 5: to that.
Speaker 1: I would haven't really called that the major story. They
Speaker 1: tried to sort of tap into that, but there's just
Speaker 1: not much there is there.
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, that's it. I don't think it's major at all.
Speaker 5: But I think that that's like we're trying to add
Speaker 5: a little bit of conflict in there, just to you know,
Speaker 5: because stories new conflict. Yeah, but it does it doesn't
Speaker 5: really add much to it. What did you think as
Speaker 5: a crossover? Do you think they did a good job
Speaker 5: of promoting the critic I don't think they did because
Speaker 5: I was getting back to what I said before, where
Speaker 5: I remember as a kid going, I don't like this character.
Speaker 1: Seemed like an asshole. I don't know whether they didn't
Speaker 1: give him any positive qualities Ja Sherman. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I've honestly, I've never watched the critic, so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what he's like on that show. But you've got
Speaker 1: to give the character some sort of liability to make
Speaker 1: people go, I want to see more of that guy.
Speaker 1: By the end of it, I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to see this guy on my screen anymore. He
Speaker 1: just seems like a dick.
Speaker 5: Look, I haven't watched the critic either. In all honesty,
Speaker 5: I've seen you know, I was seeing little bits and
Speaker 5: pieces here and there, but never a full episode, So
Speaker 5: I mean, I be I'm not wholly across the tone
Speaker 5: of the show. I think it's probably a bit more
Speaker 5: grown up adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people who are watching The Simpsons. I just don't
Speaker 1: think the Critic was ever going to work as a crossover
Speaker 1: because as an eight year old watching The Simpsons, I
Speaker 1: was like, who is this guy? And why do I care?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate when I use the term sophisticated about
Speaker 5: the critic I'm not saying them that The Simpsons is
Speaker 5: just dumb, but I think the critic sort of relies
Speaker 5: on a few more references that might go over a
Speaker 5: lot of people's heads, or based on what I've seen
Speaker 5: of it, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like the critic. To me, this seems like the Critic
Speaker 1: would be a show that applies to the comic book
Speaker 1: Guys of the World. Yeah, you're sort of you, you're snarky.
Speaker 1: But saying that though, I like Seinfeld because I like
Speaker 1: how they say what I think without things I would
Speaker 1: never actually say, but things that I think, you know
Speaker 1: that the negative aspect of life and what you think
Speaker 1: of other people. But I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like watching his first episode when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I didn't like it, didn't like him. I watch it
Speaker 1: now and at the end of us sort of went
Speaker 1: I think Jay Sherman is someone that I can relate
Speaker 1: to now, and I think I would want to see
Speaker 1: more of him now. I think if they gave us
Speaker 1: more of what he did on his show, because he
Speaker 1: didn't see enough of him on his show, I don't
Speaker 1: think to sort of make you want to see more
Speaker 1: of that artist. I don't know, but do you think
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Do you think they blended him into
Speaker 1: the Simpsons universe? Well, what do you think overall? Would
Speaker 1: you when you first watched this, would you have watched
Speaker 1: the critic if they said starting next week the critic
Speaker 1: on Channel ten? Would you have tuned into the critic
Speaker 1: as a result? And at that stage of.
Speaker 5: My love, absolutely, I'd be like, Oh, it seems like
Speaker 5: a witty comedy in the Simpsons vein about something that
Speaker 5: I'm interested in, but also with a bit more of
Speaker 5: a little more acid to it, a little more bite
Speaker 5: to it. Yeah, and the Simpsons has plenty of that.
Speaker 5: The Simpsons isn't isn't done by any stretch or or
Speaker 5: unsophisticated by any stretch.
Speaker 1: But that's just feels it's not to appeal to children
Speaker 1: at all. That's what the that's what that's the vibe
Speaker 1: I get for the critic anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more for twenty somethings. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 5: the audience starts at late precocious teens and but really
Speaker 5: is for twenty and thirty somethings.
Speaker 1: As a critic, did you like this episode? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was just so surprised when when
Speaker 1: I've read so much just just sort of I guess
Speaker 1: the word to describe. The reviews of this episode were
Speaker 1: all just like, eh, like, no one's see to have
Speaker 1: many positive things to say about it, And I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm going to be out of
Speaker 1: the norm here because I wrote down a lot that
Speaker 1: I liked about this episode.
Speaker 5: No, I thought, I thought it was really really funny.
Speaker 1: Hey, my favorite. So what were your favorite moments from
Speaker 1: Staris Bands?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, broke out the green high lighter and there's
Speaker 5: a fair bit on the page here. I mean, I
Speaker 5: just love it when little supporting characters or side characters
Speaker 5: or cameo characters that I did just show up, you know,
Speaker 5: the reporter who's like, what a story?
Speaker 1: I mean, what's good?
Speaker 5: And even the guy at the town meeting, you know
Speaker 5: when Marge first stands up and says, oh much simp
Speaker 5: and I have an idea. This guy just says, I
Speaker 5: is going to see something like that. That was really good.
Speaker 5: I thought there was a great payoff to the joke
Speaker 5: when Jay's walking through New York and Radio Wolf because
Speaker 5: you were making fun of me, you know, he pulls
Speaker 5: the no, no, but j hey, your shoes aren tied.
Speaker 5: The whole bit with a I would go in for
Speaker 5: closer look and then you got that pause, got their
Speaker 5: paws close inspection. He's a lost.
Speaker 1: Just a great, a great button on that gag. I'm
Speaker 1: just asking.
Speaker 5: And just and also how Jay introduced himself when you
Speaker 5: first see his show, and I am Jay Sherman.
Speaker 1: How much of yourself do you see in j Sherman?
Speaker 1: Is that like your stereotype what people think film critics arelike?
Speaker 1: What do you see in the character of Ja Shoman
Speaker 1: from what you saw?
Speaker 5: I think that's the stereotype of what people think it's like,
Speaker 5: and maybe it is for I think if you're going
Speaker 5: to be a TV critic a film you know, a
Speaker 5: movie critic on TV, like your your Roger Eberts or
Speaker 5: your Gene Shallott's in the US. I mean we had
Speaker 5: David Margaret here in Australia and they were a bit different.
Speaker 5: I mean, they were very well, they were very Australian.
Speaker 5: I mean they weren't sort of like the movie critics
Speaker 5: on TV in the States, based on my exposure to them,
Speaker 5: are usually kind of showman types, are larger than life
Speaker 5: personality types, so they had to have a bit of
Speaker 5: a either Oh that wacky person with their wacky opinions
Speaker 5: or oh wow, and wonder how they're going to sledge
Speaker 5: them this week or something along those lines. I mean
Speaker 5: you're not really getting in depth film analysis and criticism.
Speaker 5: You're getting like a two minute a three minute SoundBite,
Speaker 5: you know, during a section of the Today Show or
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 1: And as opposed as opposed to who was your hero
Speaker 1: from the from the seventies and eighties? Did the Midday Show? Oh?
Speaker 1: Ivan Hutchinson? Yeah, yeah, I mean he was very low key.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there were two guys in Australia who
Speaker 5: were doing who were you know movie presenters on TV?
Speaker 5: Ivan Hutchinson, who was, yeah, just a really sort of
Speaker 5: low key dude, and Bill Collins, who was also he
Speaker 5: was a bit more of the Even even doing this,
Speaker 5: I'm over hyping him, but he was the golden years
Speaker 5: of Hollywood. I mean he was more like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's that eccentric uncle who knows a shit tone about
Speaker 5: movies and will always tell you about them. And he
Speaker 5: wasn't even he wasn't over the top. He was just
Speaker 5: kind of really loved movies and it came through.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the the sound effect used for the
Speaker 1: football hitting the groin, I thought was just perfection.
Speaker 5: Just that.
Speaker 1: He can't sort of you can't say it, just you
Speaker 1: can't make that sound like the sound that they use.
Speaker 1: It's just so good. But Homer is absolute glee. After
Speaker 1: watching for the first time and saying, give that many
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars that laugh from Dan, it just gets
Speaker 1: me every time.
Speaker 5: I think it's amazing. I love how you know you
Speaker 5: can see the people around him. I think there's a
Speaker 5: guy on the right hand side of the screen, some
Speaker 5: redhead guy with the mustaches sort of doing the side
Speaker 5: out of homes, like, oh god, this baffoon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just so good. And another quote that
Speaker 1: we forgot to mention earlier that gets used a lot
Speaker 1: in real life now is I was saying buns of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this episode had so much to that's just lived on
Speaker 1: and you know, at the time maybe people didn't like it,
Speaker 1: but man, tell me, in episodes that's had more moments
Speaker 1: that get used every day on social media than more
Speaker 1: than this one. I can't I don't think there is one.
Speaker 5: I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's just there are so many that are
Speaker 5: either lifted out in meme form or have just entered
Speaker 5: the everyday vocabulary.
Speaker 1: Next question, you there eating the beast. All right, mister Davis,
Speaker 1: It is time for some trivia for a star as Burns.
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Speaker 1: with your first question, what do you got for me?
Speaker 5: I will? Indeed, how much is Bart charging for a
Speaker 5: Maps to the Stars homes?
Speaker 1: It's a very good question. I've never really paid attention,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to say something on the lines of
Speaker 1: five dollars.
Speaker 5: Five dollars it is?
Speaker 1: It is five dollars. Okay, must have just got muscle memory.
Speaker 1: I must have seen it so many times and brains
Speaker 1: just like it's five dollars before you know this. My
Speaker 1: first question is what is the name of Jay Shemon's
Speaker 1: show that he hosts?
Speaker 5: Oh? Is it at the movies with Jahmon?
Speaker 1: No? Coming attractions? Coming attractions?
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: Your next question, which Death Wish movie?
Speaker 5: Are we up to? Oh four? We're up to the ninth?
Speaker 1: The ninth?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 1: I did like the way he's like the what does
Speaker 1: he call them? That? The film reprehensible mixin movies. My
Speaker 1: next question is profits have dropped by how much?
Speaker 5: That's on of mine thirty?
Speaker 1: I thought you would have loved the spill bet spilbear
Speaker 1: going it's Bilberg non union Mexican equivalent. That's one that's
Speaker 1: dropped a lot as well.
Speaker 5: That you have a bit? Uh, what is Jay's not
Speaker 5: quite nickname for Wolfcastle? Well, what does j Corrany and Wolfcastle?
Speaker 5: When Wolfcastle approaches him on the street?
Speaker 1: Ah, nudnick?
Speaker 5: Nudnick?
Speaker 1: Now, what's that?
Speaker 5: I know?
Speaker 1: Obviously a plan on spudnik, But what's the no. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's like a Jewish term of endearment.
Speaker 1: But let's have a look, sh.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's say let's look that up. Because I was
Speaker 5: going to looking up I forgot it is not actually
Speaker 5: a term of endearment. Nudnick is a pestering, nagging, or
Speaker 5: irritating person.
Speaker 1: A bore I see. I like the fact that Jay
Speaker 1: Sherman is so much of a prick even when his
Speaker 1: big guy's coming towards him, he's such a smart ass.
Speaker 1: He's still just hang shit on it because he's like,
Speaker 1: he knows that this big march a guy has no
Speaker 1: idea that he's actually hanging shit on him. He's like,
Speaker 1: I just realized you were insulting me, and then he
Speaker 1: insults him straight away, and Wolfcastle doesn't realize that he's
Speaker 1: being insult I thought it was very, very funny. I
Speaker 1: knew it must have been something bad. My next question
Speaker 1: is how much did that film cost where he's just
Speaker 1: standing in front of the brick wall.
Speaker 5: For nineteen mine eighty million dollars?
Speaker 1: Yes, eighty million dollars correct.
Speaker 5: My last question for you is who does Marge cross
Speaker 5: off the list to make way for.
Speaker 1: Homer Martin Scorsese, Oh, Marty Yeap. And finally, who plays
Speaker 1: Smithers in US Burns for All Seasons?
Speaker 5: It's Tommy June Tommy noted Flamboy and Broadway Musical Theater star.
Speaker 1: All right, that is true viafore A Star as Burns.
Speaker 1: Let's get into our review, shall we, Mister Davis, no
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Speaker 1: beloved patrons. All right. So the original aired eight four
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Speaker 1: It was written by Ken Keeler, Ken's first writing credit
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Speaker 1: Matt Granning was so annoyed by this episode that he
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Speaker 5: Come on, let bygones be going bygones. Let bigones be guygones.
Speaker 1: Surely people look back on this now so fondly that
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Speaker 1: kicks off with, as we said earlier, Ion Springfield.
Speaker 5: Do.
Speaker 1: That's so makes you so happy, It's so great.
Speaker 5: It was just so techy. I mean of the opening
Speaker 5: credits of Ion Springfield is just chicks and bikini.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is just dancing the Jebedi sprint Field outfit
Speaker 1: and stuff. But I love it when it first airs,
Speaker 1: whenever it add on The Simpsons for the first time
Speaker 1: and just ends up home and going wow in full
Speaker 1: team and that's just the best. Whenever we used to
Speaker 1: do a Simpsons trivia and I up in Melbourne. I
Speaker 1: used to always try and incorporate a question that had
Speaker 1: the Iron Springfield music playing, because I found whenever you
Speaker 1: play that it just made people up and about that
Speaker 1: were just start us so happy. Spring Field's answer to
Speaker 1: the Benedictine Monks. Who are they Benedictine Monks? I think
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a period where you had
Speaker 1: these Benedictine monks who were just doing charting and people
Speaker 1: were just like, that's really calming and relaxing. I might
Speaker 1: play it on CD, just a chill out at the
Speaker 1: end of a rough day. So they were a thing.
Speaker 1: They were like a group, the Blue Man Group, but monks,
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, yeah, not really a group. They were
Speaker 5: just a you know, a choir of monks from Belgium
Speaker 5: or somewhere like that, and you know, they recorded an album.
Speaker 5: Some cool person started saying, well, this is really relaxing,
Speaker 5: and everyone I sort of jumped on the bandwagon for
Speaker 5: a little while.
Speaker 1: Well, we had the rapid Rabbis here in Springfield doing
Speaker 1: their own rendition of can't touch this, not even can't
Speaker 1: touch this. I was like that. Homer asked if they're Jewish,
Speaker 1: they're not so he starts eating a pig on a platter.
Speaker 1: Then Survey says that the Springfield is the Springfield at
Speaker 1: least popular city in the US in Science Dead Last.
Speaker 5: I just like that.
Speaker 1: I guess what we stink? Hey, And then they cut
Speaker 1: to Skinner being burned at the at the stake, I
Speaker 1: told you the earth revolves at around the sun. And
Speaker 1: then the guy takes a photo. You've stolen my soul,
Speaker 1: as Grandpa says. Then Culture Dead Last, Crusty performing the
Speaker 1: stage show in the wheelchair, gets out of the chair speakreveled.
Speaker 1: Then the family I actually had to hear my notes.
Speaker 1: So this episode, this story was taken straight off almost
Speaker 1: bit for bit from the episode we reviewed a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and fourthing a discount. There's something about
Speaker 1: marrying tourism goes down. Oh yeah, and they have a
Speaker 1: town hall meeting asking how they can fix tourism. That
Speaker 1: is exactly what happens in that episode. Ten seasons later,
Speaker 1: why did you ever hold another film festival? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: died to make that an annual event. Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: They literally just rehashed this story. But fine, whatever it worked.
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up on it at the time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it just it was so blatant. When I revisited this one, I.
Speaker 5: Think it'd be hilarious. I mean, you know they do
Speaker 5: a Treehouse of Horror every year. I mean you do
Speaker 5: one of these every four or five years or something. Fun.
Speaker 5: Guess what we're holding another film festival. We don't have
Speaker 5: to bring Jay Sherman back. But actually you get some
Speaker 5: other don't really they don't know if they have film
Speaker 5: critics on TV anymore, but or some YouTube guy.
Speaker 1: The closest thing now is just I don't know that
Speaker 1: movies to have like e yeah, what was it? The
Speaker 1: the thing for that I've sitt on the podcast before it.
Speaker 5: Is to love it entertainment tonight.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I on Springfield was based on that,
Speaker 1: you'd have to think so right.
Speaker 5: I think there was just all manner of like local yeah,
Speaker 5: you know today in La or something like that.
Speaker 1: I just can't happen to do air guitar whenever I
Speaker 1: on Springfield's playing. This makes me so happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you do a Springfield Film Festival episode every
Speaker 5: you know, five or six seasons or something, and different
Speaker 5: characters making their own, different little movies and things like that.
Speaker 5: It's an interesting way to shake it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting back to them, there's something about marrying. They
Speaker 1: even have the exact same joke. So when Lisa, Lisa
Speaker 1: is the one who says, oh no, too is going
Speaker 1: to go down in there's something about marrying home and goes,
Speaker 1: oh no, what about my what about my maps two
Speaker 1: stars homes? But here what about my maps to stars homes?
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the exact same joke. They literally
Speaker 1: copied this episode. Bart's here He's got maps to movie
Speaker 1: stars homes, and it's He's got Moe's houses. Drew Barrymore,
Speaker 1: Are you Drew Barrymore? What? I'm hungover?
Speaker 5: Hungover?
Speaker 1: They didn't have the town hall meeting?
Speaker 6: Are there any suggestions for how to attract more tourism?
Speaker 3: The easiest way to be popular is to leach off
Speaker 3: the popularity of others, So we proposed changing our name
Speaker 3: from Springfield to Seinfeld.
Speaker 7: I may be just a boy, but I have an idea.
Speaker 7: If I may, I'd like to show you a few slides.
Speaker 7: Here's Springfield as it appears from space somewhere in this week.
Speaker 7: Valley is the lost Dutchman's mind.
Speaker 6: Young man that appears to be a picture of your
Speaker 6: rear end song.
Speaker 3: Sutters.
Speaker 1: Lot.
Speaker 7: This is the last time I use an escape plan
Speaker 7: devised by Millhouse.
Speaker 4: Sorry, bart I'm.
Speaker 3: Marge Simpson and I have an idea.
Speaker 2: Oh March is gonna say something now.
Speaker 8: I know you haven't liked some of my past suggestions,
Speaker 8: like switching to the metric system.
Speaker 6: The metric system is the tour of the devil my
Speaker 6: cargage forty rods to the hots head, and that's the
Speaker 6: way I liked it. The old persions from March will
Speaker 6: be stricken from the record who said that.
Speaker 3: But my new idea is different.
Speaker 8: I think we should hold a film festival and give
Speaker 8: out prizes.
Speaker 3: Could we make our own movies and enter them? Yes,
Speaker 3: last an excuse to wear makeup.
Speaker 6: All in favor of Marge Simpson's film festival idea like
Speaker 6: my idea.
Speaker 3: Actually I have several others.
Speaker 1: But then, as you were saying, they got straight into it.
Speaker 1: So as soon as we have this scene, straight into
Speaker 1: Barton filming. He is the eternal struggle relax fit my
Speaker 1: aunt Fanny. He can't fit into his pants. We've all
Speaker 1: been there where we've We've got like a favorite pair
Speaker 1: of pants and they get a little bit tight. And
Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, some wheat or bay new pants.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, and Flanders and then
Speaker 1: filming Todd is Todd, Yeah, Ted his baby Moses in
Speaker 1: the How big must that basket be? By the way,
Speaker 1: and like more is like picking him up, put him
Speaker 1: in the water. I'm like this, this Todd is not
Speaker 1: a baby. But he flies off down the river straight away.
Speaker 1: I really liked the shot of as soon as Todd
Speaker 1: takes off, it cuts to Rod and Flanner's just looking
Speaker 1: at it, and it's just that visual of oh fuck,
Speaker 1: and he flies fround he praised to God. I feel
Speaker 1: like if this joke was used in a modern day episode,
Speaker 1: people would hang shit on it when he praise to God,
Speaker 1: God say today thanks God, or could do It's so unrealistic,
Speaker 1: but it just, you know, back then it didn't seem
Speaker 1: to bother us, but now it was bother us though
Speaker 1: it shouldn't. But Marge is now looking for a critic
Speaker 1: and it's six hundred critics on TV, which goes to
Speaker 1: show that the sign of the time six hundred critics
Speaker 1: on TV, and that probably was true. There probably were
Speaker 1: a lot of critics on TV. But now as you're
Speaker 1: saying it'd be hard to find any I guess just
Speaker 1: the Internet killed that, right, social media killed that. What
Speaker 1: do you think was the biggest killer of the Internet,
Speaker 1: or just social media in or just the Internet in general.
Speaker 5: Oh, the Internet in general, because I mean you look
Speaker 5: on YouTube and there's plenty there's plenty of you know,
Speaker 5: sort of amateur critics.
Speaker 1: Just randoms, just filming themselves. I've never got the whole
Speaker 1: reaction video thing.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I don't get that at all.
Speaker 1: It's just like it was like someone sent me your
Speaker 1: links saying you gotta watch this guy watch the Geelong
Speaker 1: Grand Final, And I'm like, do I We're how excited
Speaker 1: to get to when he kicks the goal? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a fan of Geelong, he should be excited. I
Speaker 1: don't get why watching some and it's literally like you
Speaker 1: can't even see the game when you're watching it. You're
Speaker 1: just watching a guy looking at his computer screen. I'm like, why,
Speaker 1: why have six hundred thousand people watched this? I don't
Speaker 1: get it. Clouds, what is this?
Speaker 5: No, it makes zero sense to me. Yeah. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: I mean there would have been a stage where, you know,
Speaker 5: all your regional TV stations or your small town stations
Speaker 5: probably had you know, now it's time for someone is
Speaker 5: opening this week, and here's our movie reviewer to talk
Speaker 5: about it. Probably getting paid peanuts or just getting free
Speaker 5: movie tickets or something like that. But yeah, a lot
Speaker 5: of the so many stations have had their own movie guy.
Speaker 1: And Leonard Malton is mentioned here, the best looking on TV,
Speaker 1: who appears in Mega Streisand the second last episode I
Speaker 1: want to say of south Park season one, which we
Speaker 1: reviewed on our south Park podcast, Going Down to south Park.
Speaker 1: So if you're a patron and you haven't checked out
Speaker 1: that podcast yet, check it out. Guarantee you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: The more guying down to In your ears, she sees
Speaker 1: Jay Sherman on his show Coming Attractions and his Air
Speaker 1: with Ray near wolf Castle discussing the reprehensible McBain movies.
Speaker 1: And then they's what's the new movie called again? Number
Speaker 1: nine of what it's death Wish, Death Wish okay, and
Speaker 1: it's just him making jokes, doing stand up in front
Speaker 1: of a brick wall.
Speaker 5: Oh so no, no, well, yeah there's the death Witch
Speaker 5: movie with Charles Bronson in the bed.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, yes, I wish, I was like I wish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no days, and.
Speaker 5: Then it's McBain, let's let's get silly, let's get silly.
Speaker 1: Of course it is, of course it is. What do
Speaker 1: you think? And dandover it just yeah, that's the joke.
Speaker 1: That is probably the most ued Simpson's meme, right, like
Speaker 1: that or Homer in the Hedges.
Speaker 5: I think it's Homer in the Hedges in all honesty,
Speaker 5: and I think that's but.
Speaker 1: That is quote quote wise though, like that's for the
Speaker 1: visual something that's just a quote. What do you reckon?
Speaker 5: I'm always inclined to say, booms you reckon?
Speaker 1: I reckon. That's the joke is every time somebody misunderstand something,
Speaker 1: and it's I love it when I'm the first person
Speaker 1: to do it too. I love it when I've got
Speaker 1: someone I'm like, cool, he's a good chance to use.
Speaker 1: That's the joke. Yeah, burn, it's even better when you
Speaker 1: go back two minutes later and you realize the deleted
Speaker 1: their comment. You're like, I still got it. Then he
Speaker 1: does his Woody Yellen impression during the stand up. And
Speaker 1: speaking of Woodyellen, he appears in the latter episode of
Speaker 1: Talking Seinfeld. Well, he doesn't appear, but he's he's filming
Speaker 1: a movie in New York where he gives Cramey the
Speaker 1: role where he has the speaking line of these petzels
Speaker 1: are making me thirsty. We've just reviewed that. It's not
Speaker 1: quite up on the Patreon channel yet, but it's going
Speaker 1: to be up very very soon. So if you like
Speaker 1: yourself from Seinfeld and you haven't listened to that one
Speaker 1: yet and you're a patron, what are you doing? Check
Speaker 1: that out as well. Dano, you are a spooking machine.
Speaker 1: Just ties into here in the Forefinger Discount universe. And
Speaker 1: then Homer thinks that when Lisa says, I think it's
Speaker 1: Lisa who's describing Jay, he thinks it's them describing him.
Speaker 5: My ears are burning.
Speaker 1: No, no, you dad, Oh my ears a burning.
Speaker 5: Let a cute bond fire and see what was happening
Speaker 5: in his ear.
Speaker 1: Marge then writes the letter to j.
Speaker 8: Dear mister san On behalf of the people of Springfield.
Speaker 8: I would like to invite you to judge our film festival.
Speaker 3: You can stay with us and enjoy the sights and
Speaker 3: sounds of the country.
Speaker 6: Merge just a pimple or a boil, just a man at.
Speaker 3: Homer, look what you made me?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 8: Anyway, we think you'll really enjoy our quiet little town.
Speaker 3: Sincerely, Marge Simpson, Do.
Speaker 2: I really want to leave Manhattan?
Speaker 1: Sermon? I just realized you insulted me. Now you were
Speaker 1: to die?
Speaker 5: Eh?
Speaker 3: Hey not neck?
Speaker 2: Your shoes untied?
Speaker 4: From here they appear to be tied. But I will
Speaker 4: go in for a close or look.
Speaker 2: Taxi to the airport.
Speaker 1: On Grelosa inspection. These are loafers. We come back from
Speaker 1: commercial and the graffiti plane arrives, cuts off the one
Speaker 1: from New York. Hey, I'm landing here. Homer then holds
Speaker 1: up the Simpson sign. It's just your typical Homer is
Speaker 1: dumb moment keeps rewriting Simpson and.
Speaker 5: Then again rule threes again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the payoff to the piople or a boil.
Speaker 1: It was a gummy bear. So right off the bat
Speaker 1: here they're trying to establish that Jay. I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: I think Jay thinks he's more superior than anybody, but
Speaker 1: more superior than Homer.
Speaker 5: What do you reckon?
Speaker 1: Not particularly in this moment here, but it's setting up
Speaker 1: the I don't know that, yeah, same, Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: maybe it's just John Loved's voice. I don't know, But
Speaker 1: do you think It's Loved's voice plays a big part
Speaker 1: in the snewedness of Jay Sherman. It absolutely does.
Speaker 5: But I think you know the thing about Jay Sherman
Speaker 5: is he's also probably fairly insecure to the point of
Speaker 5: rock bottomed self esteem.
Speaker 1: Balding, middle aged, fat white man short.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's you know, he's commenting on stuff rather
Speaker 5: than actually creating stuff for all that kind of business.
Speaker 5: You know, Rainian Wolfcastle doesn't call him out, But how
Speaker 5: do you slip in that? On a bed of on
Speaker 5: a big bottle of Money's arounded by beautiful ladies who
Speaker 5: who wouldn't rather have that? So I think if Jay
Speaker 5: finds the opportunity is like, oh here's someone I'm legitimately
Speaker 5: better than, you know, he's really gonna sort of loud
Speaker 5: it over coming.
Speaker 1: Up next, The Flintstones meet the Jetsons.
Speaker 7: Uh oh, I smell another cheap cartoon crossover.
Speaker 6: Bright Tip didn't meet Jay Sherman the critic.
Speaker 7: Hello, hey man, I really love your show. I think
Speaker 7: our kids should watch it. I suddenly feel so dirty.
Speaker 1: It's important. I think when you're doing a crossover that
Speaker 1: you acknowledge it in some way and take the mickey
Speaker 1: out of yourself at the same time.
Speaker 5: I reckon, So I think you have to, don't you.
Speaker 1: You have to because you don't want to want the
Speaker 1: viewers to feel like you're just shoving it down their throats.
Speaker 1: Burns is now in his office and we get Vadas
Speaker 1: theme playing over the top of the Imperial March, and
Speaker 1: they're discussing how the profits have dropped by thirty seven
Speaker 1: percent because the image of the of the power plant
Speaker 1: and mister Burns's is just not great at the moment,
Speaker 1: so Smith suggests a film biography as part of the
Speaker 1: film festival to improve their image. Get me, Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: He is not available, sir, Get me he's non Union
Speaker 1: mass An equivalent. It's just it's so awesome, isn't.
Speaker 5: It, Senior spill Senior spielbergo.
Speaker 1: Yes, I want you to do what Spilberg did for
Speaker 1: Oscar Shindler. She lets, I didn't appreciate this, and that's
Speaker 1: what I always gotta allow.
Speaker 5: Like Shindlers, I.
Speaker 1: Never appreciated Spielberg or whatever. It is enough when I
Speaker 1: was younger. For sure, it's very very good. And what
Speaker 1: what's his hat say? Did I say? Spielberg? Spielbergo, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean was just always renowned
Speaker 1: for isn't a cap, isn't it? He's like, that doesn't
Speaker 1: look like a drastic park we have we can up
Speaker 1: hanging one second. I'm just just giggling him. Now, hang
Speaker 1: on one second. What's his hat? Was just a red
Speaker 1: hat and it was just lucky red hat. But yes,
Speaker 1: that's as you were saying. He's known Spillbear for wearing
Speaker 1: his hat's blue hat though.
Speaker 5: Right, I think he's for a very very long time.
Speaker 5: He was just mister baseball cap, the beard in the baseball.
Speaker 1: Cap, the beard in the baseball gap. Yeah. So he's
Speaker 1: got the non Mexican non union SORR Mexican equivalent to
Speaker 1: help him film his film Homer and Jay and then
Speaker 1: fighting over who gets the last pork chop and we
Speaker 1: get their bellies fighting.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I like about this though, was this It also
Speaker 1: shows that Jay he's got the gift of the game
Speaker 1: when it comes to his mouth. So he's a big talker,
Speaker 1: but physically no home is always going to win. He's
Speaker 1: a chicken. But Marches, now you've got to you've got
Speaker 1: to let the guests have the last pork chop, and
Speaker 1: even just that like sticks his tongue out. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this guy not a nice person at Jay is not
Speaker 1: a nice person at all. He shows off all his awards,
Speaker 1: so he's really cocky. And then Homer brags about how
Speaker 1: you know, he won the belching contest at work, and
Speaker 1: then Jay out does him in that as well. It's like,
Speaker 1: piss off, mate, just have something now. I want to
Speaker 1: mention here a little bit later in the episode, so
Speaker 1: he mentions here that the end people that can beouch louder,
Speaker 1: he and you door are wealthy. Right when we hear
Speaker 1: her burp later in the episode, for some reason, and
Speaker 1: I cannot explain to you why used to be muted
Speaker 1: on free to air TV. When they would err on Foxdale,
Speaker 1: we could hear it. But when Channel ten would air
Speaker 1: that scene where she where she burps and Crusty's hair moves,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. You couldn't hear it. His hair just moved
Speaker 1: and there was no sound. It was the strangest thing.
Speaker 5: That's very weird. Any any reason why they do that.
Speaker 1: You've never been able to find out why that is.
Speaker 1: It's just the strangest thing that that one little bit
Speaker 1: was always the initial burp by Jay not muted out.
Speaker 1: But when Krusty says, We've got a date with your
Speaker 1: door a wealthy and she burps, you couldn't hear it.
Speaker 1: You just see the hair moving. It was the strangest thing.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just out of respect for the pulling surprise
Speaker 5: winning author be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah, it's just it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 1: But then we hear the doorbell rings, smartest sisters or
Speaker 1: sisters screams, and then he says that what do you
Speaker 1: think of this next bit? I thought you'd appreciate this,
Speaker 1: the woody Allen bit. I look came and ca can
Speaker 1: do but sat smart, Jimmy and Skippy do can and
Speaker 1: do do? I never feel I never felt worse for
Speaker 1: Homer than.
Speaker 5: I did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty bad and tumbre weed coming through.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They then asked, who is gay? No Harvey firesting,
Speaker 1: No way the camp has gone Hollywood. I love Harvey.
Speaker 1: He's so funny. Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Well co star of Missus Doubtfire, which was recently covered
Speaker 5: by Dan Do on Guy Okay The Movie.
Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah The Movie Guys podcast, available on Patreon it's
Speaker 1: all tad to get apologies. Listens, if you just heard
Speaker 1: a scream, Holly is now awoken, and this house is
Speaker 1: going to be a rocket.
Speaker 5: Now, alright, Well, we can't really race to the end
Speaker 5: because we're not. We're about plenty of time.
Speaker 1: We're fine. I believe my lovely wife Nikola is going
Speaker 1: to be taking Holly for a walk to the park
Speaker 1: to get it out the house. But before then, we
Speaker 1: have them discussing Hugh's gay and Homer suggests whispers something
Speaker 1: in his ear. Mcguiver is gay, and we're both not
Speaker 1: happy about that at all. They're not, and I don't
Speaker 1: know how. It's kind of like there's two ways looking
Speaker 1: at it. It's they're using homosexuality as the punchline here,
Speaker 1: like it's a bad things that he's gay. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: Patty and Sam are annoy because they obviously like him
Speaker 1: and they don't want him to be gay. But now
Speaker 1: that we've reviewed, as we're saying earlier, there's something about marrying.
Speaker 1: Did Patty not know what she was at this point?
Speaker 1: I thought she always knew according to that episode.
Speaker 5: Oh good point.
Speaker 1: Continuity doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: I think you can just as dudes can have man
Speaker 5: crushes like I'm you know, It's true. Both dan Or
Speaker 5: and I have on Joel Sellwood, the captain of the
Speaker 5: Delongquat's football team, who has now decided to call it
Speaker 5: to day on his illustrious career. Patty probably you know,
Speaker 5: had a non sexual crush on mcgiver, or a sexual
Speaker 5: crush but not sexual, if you know what I mean. No,
Speaker 5: I don't, nor do I. I'm working that out.
Speaker 1: But it comes to Jay hanging from his undies. He's
Speaker 1: obviously been beaten up by Patty and Sammer. Margin's then
Speaker 1: riding out the jury list for the festival in bed
Speaker 1: with Homer, and Homer asked her, you respect my intelligence
Speaker 1: of a pause? Yes? Why was it such a long pause?
Speaker 1: No reason? You humor me? Yes? Wait a minute, that's bad,
Speaker 1: And he's like, I know, I know he's a good critic,
Speaker 1: but can he sing the Oscar the Oscar my Awena song?
Speaker 1: And then he proceeds to do just that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish I were an Oscar myre weener.
Speaker 3: That's true. They like to be because if I were
Speaker 3: an Oscar and Iroween, everyone would be in love with me.
Speaker 3: That's it. March he knows the whole Hot Talk song.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, sleep with him.
Speaker 6: I'll just take a look of your hair to remember you.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 4: It's just you and me.
Speaker 5: No luck of their.
Speaker 1: Oscar my a Wiener never had one? Have you ever
Speaker 1: had one? I have never had an oscar my Wiena. No,
Speaker 1: we're Australians down and we have Huttons, footy Franks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Why I don't eat sausages anymore before so,
Speaker 1: I've never I've never really liked sausages anyway. Eve when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was just like, give me
Speaker 1: a hamburger. I don't want a sausage. I was never
Speaker 1: I loved the bunting snag. It was like a Saturday
Speaker 1: morning ritual. But at a barbecue. I was all about
Speaker 1: the hamburgers, hamburgers of Coleslaw.
Speaker 5: I get where you're coming from, but oh I love
Speaker 5: a sausage.
Speaker 1: Use that sound bite. But yeah, so all the kids
Speaker 1: are singing the song with him, and the dog's howling.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's how that the that's like a Chicken
Speaker 1: Tonight kind of reference, Like that's the song for the commercials.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming, Yeah, that wasn't it at the movies isn't
Speaker 1: it like the the commercial is to play before a
Speaker 1: movie like go to the I know that was Let's
Speaker 1: all go to.
Speaker 5: The lobby and have ourselves a snack.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the Oscar My Wiener theme
Speaker 5: song was big on the TV commercials and things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no a hot dog song. No, it's not.
Speaker 5: The classic version of the wing the theme song. But
Speaker 5: Love's reaction to it, he knows the whole hot dog song.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, sleep with him.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a look at your hair. It's
Speaker 1: just me and you now, luck of hair much as
Speaker 1: like calm down, you find so, he says, put me
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Speaker 1: That's now the auditions for mister Burns. We get Annibal Letter,
Speaker 1: we get William Shatner, and we also get Homer. I
Speaker 1: love the Homer exactly, just caving in the line, right,
Speaker 1: bumblebee guy, excellente and burnches. Besides that, enough's enough, I'm
Speaker 1: going to play it myself. It's now the film Festival,
Speaker 1: and this next gag took me back to my honeymoon.
Speaker 1: So doctor Hibitt rocking up the rocky horror get up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I've been there, and you know, we
Speaker 1: get the various films. So we get bright lights, beef
Speaker 1: jerky from a Pooh, we get Mo better booze from Mo.
Speaker 1: Man getting hit by football one of my favorite moments ever.
Speaker 1: It's just so stupid, so funny. It's it's like, man,
Speaker 1: getta hit by football. It is utterly ridiculous. It just
Speaker 1: seems to have just stuck like it's just what is
Speaker 1: it about it that makes it so goddamn funny?
Speaker 5: Is it the sound is I know, I know, Homer
Speaker 5: says it works on so many levels.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really, it just works on one level. But
Speaker 1: it's funny. Just I don't know, it's ridiculous and immature,
Speaker 1: but it's just I think that that moment followed Behmer's
Speaker 1: laugh is just a perfect combination for me. I just
Speaker 1: I just I adore it. Then we get puc Huntas
Speaker 1: from from Barney, which.
Speaker 5: I really love because I mean it's a wonderful piss
Speaker 5: take on you know, the sort of gotten who are
Speaker 5: kind of Yeah, actually it was more like colognets, like
Speaker 5: Calvin kleinsession.
Speaker 1: They already take pisce out of this mister Plow when
Speaker 1: Homer says he pays a lot of money to have
Speaker 1: a commercial from mister plowner, and it comes back like
Speaker 1: a Calvin Klein kind of commercial with all black and
Speaker 1: white yeaheah yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: But yeah, those you know, the clouds really moving fast
Speaker 5: across the guy and it's all in black and white
Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. But they're all correct
Speaker 5: and saying this is actually really good. I mean it's
Speaker 5: I love all this stuff in it. I mean, I
Speaker 5: really love. One of my favorite bits is actually the
Speaker 5: when Barney quotes a fellow or something like there is
Speaker 5: a serber Man lately, a clown presently a beast that
Speaker 5: pretty much covers it.
Speaker 1: I thought that was the funniest thing.
Speaker 5: But also just the my name is Barney Gomble, I'm forty,
Speaker 5: I'm single, and I drink. It's like, it's good writing.
Speaker 1: Ye, that sums your life up. Yep, don't cry for me,
Speaker 1: I'm already dead. Another quote that gets used a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very much so yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I think they picked the perfect character to have this
Speaker 1: film as well, because you just never expect Barney to
Speaker 1: be the one to have this. But it's really beautifully made.
Speaker 1: It's really great. But Haama wasn't watching it all then
Speaker 1: we get a burns for all seasons. And the quote
Speaker 1: of you truly are King of Kings that gets used
Speaker 1: all the time when someone does something great on social media.
Speaker 1: But do you know that was voiced by Phil Hartman.
Speaker 5: Well, I did see his name in the in the
Speaker 5: closing credits. I'm like, where where was Phil? But then
Speaker 5: in retrospects like truly you are the king of king Yeah.
Speaker 5: I saw some clip on on Twitter the other day.
Speaker 5: Phil Harton was on like some chat show or something,
Speaker 5: and he was talking about how he dubbed a line
Speaker 5: for Jack Nicholson in some film that Nicholson made in
Speaker 5: the eighties. Yeah, they needed him for adr and Nicholson
Speaker 5: wasn't available. So Phil Hartman stepped in and said, I
Speaker 5: really appreciate what you've done for me and my family.
Speaker 5: And Harbin told met Jack Nicholson and told him this,
Speaker 5: and Nicholson apparently said, no, wonder that film was my
Speaker 5: only loser.
Speaker 1: Harbin just cracked up.
Speaker 5: It was the funniest thing.
Speaker 1: But that was great. I didn't know that he'd ever
Speaker 1: done that. I'm sad that Nicholson's hiding now because of
Speaker 1: his apparently he's got is that dementia?
Speaker 5: Either that or he's just you know, old, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Apparently he's just he's something's not right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he I think he admitted his like, I
Speaker 5: can't remember lines anymore. I mean, whether that's legitimate dementia
Speaker 5: or just old age wear and tear. I mean, there's
Speaker 5: a great line. I think Sean McKellen, who said, like
Speaker 5: an actor dized twice in the first time is when
Speaker 5: you can't remember your line, that sucks.
Speaker 1: And it does suck.
Speaker 5: But I mean, you know, Jack gave us forty fifty
Speaker 5: years of just being Jack Nicholson, you know, birth on
Speaker 5: screen and offscreen.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the moment where he flirted with Jennifer Lawrence? Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like that is just even though he's not in
Speaker 1: movies anymore, he's still Jack Nicholson just the I thought
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: No, So he's more and Donald, he's more than indulgence
Speaker 5: to you know, sitting sitting around the house in his
Speaker 5: robe and you know, watch the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Good on him. Anyone who has trouble flirting with women
Speaker 1: just watched that ten seconds like that there he just
Speaker 1: oozers charisma. Oh yeah, it's just the confidence of the guy.
Speaker 1: And what I love the most is when he goes
Speaker 1: back to it. You put the glasses on first, what's
Speaker 1: his glasses? Backing on? Sunglasses and then he goes and talks, Ah,
Speaker 1: what a man. They broke the mold. They broke the mold.
Speaker 1: He really did. All right, But enough about Jack Nicholson, Nickson,
Speaker 1: Phil Hartman of course, yes, he voice King of Kings.
Speaker 1: And then we get the I was saying Billurn's moment.
Speaker 1: These are the boy, ma'am.
Speaker 4: No, they're saying Burns, Burns, are you seeing Boo Bourns?
Speaker 3: I was saying balloons.
Speaker 1: We come back, and the jury now voting for a winner.
Speaker 1: We have Marge and Jay choose Pucahuntas and Quimby and
Speaker 1: Krusty have been brought off by Burns and they have
Speaker 1: voted for a Burns for all seasons and christ He
Speaker 1: says we're gona get out of he because I've got
Speaker 1: a date with with you, Dora. And then we hear
Speaker 1: the burp. I was like, oh, thank god, the Burbs back,
Speaker 1: because I just never understood why they cut it out.
Speaker 1: It must have been out of respect. I'm not too sure.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. Maybe she complained. I'm not too sure.
Speaker 1: But then we get the moment you quoted earlier. It
Speaker 1: moved me. Do it back a house, La, that's such
Speaker 1: a it's such a good It's such a perfect rusty line,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's on part for me of like the
Speaker 1: they bought a dumb truck full of money up to
Speaker 1: my house. I'm not made of stone. Homer wants football
Speaker 1: on the growing football in the grind. Jay says, you
Speaker 1: need to take a break because we're getting nowhere. Margie
Speaker 1: goes and confronts Homer says, I knew you. I knew
Speaker 1: it was this would happen if I put you on
Speaker 1: the jury, you'd vote for the stupidest film. And Jay
Speaker 1: walks up and he's like, you're going to make fun
Speaker 1: of me. No, I'm not going to make fun of you.
Speaker 1: But before that, though, he says, what does Homer say
Speaker 1: that makes him go? How many times have I had
Speaker 1: Rex Read say that? Sleeping with the with the slipping
Speaker 1: with the What? What is Marge slipping with the chief?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The boss of some kind? Yes? Who's Rex Read? I
Speaker 1: don't know who Rex Read is.
Speaker 5: Rex Reader is a critic who's still working in New York.
Speaker 5: I think he's I think he writes for the New
Speaker 5: York Observer. Yeah, always a bit bitchy. His reviews lately
Speaker 5: are just ship. He's just got terrible taste. You know.
Speaker 5: He'll anything that's you know, vaguely interesting and be kind
Speaker 5: of like, no, don't like it, and anyone anyone any
Speaker 5: tastes going fuck off?
Speaker 1: Rex?
Speaker 5: Why are you still around?
Speaker 1: Is that you don't have taste? And he does.
Speaker 5: Man, he's got it. Look, here's the thing about film criticism.
Speaker 5: We're all just arseholes with opinions.
Speaker 1: That's all weird.
Speaker 5: You can have an informed opinion, you can certainly, you
Speaker 5: can know your stuff, you can know your film history,
Speaker 5: and you know, see how stuff relates to everything else
Speaker 5: and all that kind of thing. But in the end,
Speaker 5: it's just your opinion. If you can express your opinion
Speaker 5: well and back up your arguments, that's great. No one's
Speaker 5: right or wrong. You know, you just got to go
Speaker 5: with the voice, the voice you can trust.
Speaker 1: So then he says, I'm not going to make fun
Speaker 1: of you, but there are better things in life than
Speaker 1: seeing a man get hitting the groin with the football.
Speaker 5: By the way, shout out for the delivery of groin.
Speaker 1: Yep, And the football hits him in the groin, and
Speaker 1: Nelson was obviously the person. He threw it Homers, and
Speaker 1: he had some serious thinking to do, and he goes
Speaker 1: and rewatches it. Barney's film had heart football on the Green,
Speaker 1: had a football in the green. And then after finishing
Speaker 1: Barney's film, he says, you know what, I've really learned
Speaker 1: a lot from this. I'm going to straighten up, fly
Speaker 1: up whatever beer here, I'll take ten.
Speaker 5: That's something I've always loved about this. Those all that
Speaker 5: the beer guys wandering around an empty theater beer here,
Speaker 5: it was just instant. I'll take ten.
Speaker 1: It's like when the guys selling hot dogs at the funeral.
Speaker 1: You're just following my husband around, lady. He's getting my
Speaker 1: children through college. She and Scratchy have won the Best
Speaker 1: Short Film Best Animated Short for four Funerals and a Wedding.
Speaker 1: What I liked about this was it, at least a
Speaker 1: scratch you got to live a happy life. I was
Speaker 1: thinking the exact same thing. I'm obviously they exploded at
Speaker 1: the end, but he looked old and fraid of at
Speaker 1: this point. They both went out together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they had a long live together. They had
Speaker 5: a couple of dynamite kids, and.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic and they both die.
Speaker 5: And also Scratchy checks out as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is the mouse?
Speaker 5: Is it you the mouse?
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Barney wins with Poker Hunters, and Marge
Speaker 1: is very proud of Homer for voting for the right film.
Speaker 1: You know what he says, it's not tough, or he
Speaker 1: says not tough yet not tough being a film. Cricket cricket,
Speaker 1: And then Barney says I'm going to be a new
Speaker 1: Barnard Gumbel, hard working, clean and sober. And he wins
Speaker 1: a lifetime supplier beer just hook it to my veins. Whatever.
Speaker 1: That gets used a lot whenever, like a new trailer
Speaker 1: comes out or something very much. So yeah, I see
Speaker 1: that one so much. Yeah. The family now sending off
Speaker 1: Jay at the airport. You know, wonder you can visit
Speaker 1: my show? Yeah, we're not going to be doing that.
Speaker 1: And Homer is and he tricks himself with some beer
Speaker 1: nuts whatever, and then they mentioned here, well, faithfully, mister
Speaker 1: Burns learned that you can't buy off. You can't win
Speaker 1: an a war by paying people money. And six months
Speaker 1: later at the Oscars, there's two elements of this. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't win. George C. Scott wins with
Speaker 1: men getting hit by football, right. But what I love
Speaker 1: is that are they taking the piss out of the
Speaker 1: Academy and that this short film came out and someone
Speaker 1: else has just ripped off another film and it's winning
Speaker 1: Best Film at the Oscars? Or is that just meant to?
Speaker 1: Is that looking too much into it? I think that's
Speaker 1: really just a little bit too much ender. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: oh my grind.
Speaker 5: I think that's one say ah my grind and have
Speaker 5: one of the most intense actors in Hollywood, you know,
Speaker 5: sort of very renowned, respected actor, just winning, finally winning
Speaker 5: and asking for my grind. Oh my grind. That's the
Speaker 5: one thing I've always loved about this episode, George C.
Speaker 1: Scott's It's just such a funny way to end this episode.
Speaker 1: But did you know that Maurice Lamar is LaMarsh Lamar
Speaker 1: from Future? Yeah, we also voiced on the critic as well,
Speaker 1: so he voiced George Scott in this episode. He voiced
Speaker 1: William Shatner. He voiced the Burps as well, both both Burps.
Speaker 1: Hey 's nice work, Maurice. Indeed, so that is the
Speaker 1: end of the episode because mister Burns does not win
Speaker 1: the oscar and he cracks the shits. Overall this episode,
Speaker 1: I don't understand the not disdain, but just the meh
Speaker 1: response that it's got many that received. Yeah, that's ridiculous silliness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought this was just one of the most memorable
Speaker 1: episodes of all time due to all the moments that
Speaker 1: get rehashed in social media. It's just I just thought
Speaker 1: this is a standout.
Speaker 5: Really Oh god, it's clearly taken up space in people's minds.
Speaker 5: If it's if there's so many bits and pieces of
Speaker 5: it that are repurposed in other ways.
Speaker 1: It's so wacky that if you told me that and
Speaker 1: con O'Brian or Swartzport I wrote this episode, I believe
Speaker 1: you because it just feels like it doesn't it.
Speaker 5: It does, it does. It's full of zingers and really
Speaker 5: tightly constructed, I think, because.
Speaker 1: I think with those two guys there, when I used
Speaker 1: to write episodes, there were so many funny moments, but
Speaker 1: they all progressed the story still. It wasn't just like
Speaker 1: random moments for the sake of random moment. It was
Speaker 1: zing zing zing, zing zing and zing zinger, but continuous
Speaker 1: story flow.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed it. What do we learn bomber,
Speaker 1: mister Davis? What did you learn from a star? As Burns?
Speaker 5: The lyrics to the oscar Awa thing?
Speaker 1: Is that what you truly like to be? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Although, as I said, hot dogs, I'm a hot dog.
Speaker 5: What kind of kid eats I'm a hot dog? What
Speaker 5: kind of dogs? I just remember when that when they
Speaker 5: were doing it on that episode, though there was everyone
Speaker 5: was singing along.
Speaker 1: Fat kids, sissy kids, even kids with chicken box.
Speaker 5: Everyone was so into it.
Speaker 1: Check out our review of Grade School Confidential. I believe
Speaker 1: that was last month's I on Springfield, Guy on Springfield,
Speaker 1: I should say yes. I hope you enjoyed. Our review
Speaker 1: of Stars Burns. Was fun to go back and revisit
Speaker 1: this one. I wasn't too sure because I remember as
Speaker 1: a kid not really liking it, and it was honestly
Speaker 1: one of the episodes when I was younger that I
Speaker 1: would sort of go ah, this one, I was sort
Speaker 1: of when I used to have my tape, so he's
Speaker 1: always one i'd fast forward it. It was never a
Speaker 1: favorite of mine, but going back now, I definitely appreciate
Speaker 1: it more. What did I learned? I learned that The
Speaker 1: Critic is likely a show that thirty four year old
Speaker 1: Dan I was going to enjoy, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: go and check it out. I actually have them on
Speaker 1: DVD both seasons, so I'm actually looking forward to checking out.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Patron's patrons let us know, would
Speaker 1: you be interested in hearing us talk about The Critic,
Speaker 1: because I'll be happy to send you the davdat as
Speaker 1: well as the Davids, you want to check out the
Speaker 1: show as well, because I just think it's a show
Speaker 1: that honestly, now, I think it's a show where that
Speaker 1: kind of sense of humor is much more prominent and
Speaker 1: much more appreciated. I know, what do you think?
Speaker 5: I think it might be? Right?
Speaker 1: So, I mean we're all assholes, don't We.
Speaker 5: Don't tell anybody. Yeah, Patrons, get on it. If you
Speaker 5: think you'd like to hear Dan and I having a
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Speaker 5: Let us know, because you'll be if we talk about
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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, all right, guys, that has been our
Speaker 1: star as Burns this month's episode of A Guy on Springfield.
Speaker 1: I'll be chucking up the poll in a week or
Speaker 1: so up in the Patreon group, so you can look
Speaker 1: out for that for the next four episodes in which
Speaker 1: you guys can vote on what we're going to review
Speaker 1: in October. I'm thinking for Otoba, miss Davis, I'm going
Speaker 1: to pick four different trios of horror episodes. What do
Speaker 1: you reckon.
Speaker 5: I think that's a very good idea, very good.
Speaker 1: Idea, indeed, a clever idea. Some would say. All right,
Speaker 1: so the next month is going to be a Treos
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