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Speaker 1: Yo, what is up?

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Speaker 2: Boys?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? And welcome back to another episode of

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the Rant Cafe Anime podcast. We're so back boys, talking

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about three different anime today that we forced each other

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to watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes look Back and

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my instant death ability is so overpowered. I'm sure we

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could guess who recommended which one, but Recon welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, Well, great to be back, Buddy, great to be back.

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I hope you guys really enjoyed my recommendation.

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Speaker 1: Actually we'll talk about it in a second.

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Speaker 2: Wait to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: And Recon did recommend my instant death ability is so overpowered?

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And Jordan welcome in, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up everybody? How are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: And he recommended look Back, which is an anime movie

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that we're going to talk about here in a second.

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And then I wanted to torture Recon, and so I

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recommended Legend of the Glactic Heroes because I know how

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much he loves older anime. Damn man, we want to

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start with my instant death ability is so overpowered?

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Speaker 2: Up keep whatever y'all want to do, Okay, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Recon with this anime I was very surprised. I

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thought nothing could be worse than Smartphony Sakai, and it

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found a way, it found away. I think I have

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this classified as the worst anime I've ever dropped. I

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gave it a one point I gave it a one

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point five out of ten. No way, yeah, it got.

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Speaker 2: Wait that was very easy. Was it the worst?

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Speaker 3: But only one?

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Speaker 2: There is no way this is like the worst thing.

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Speaker 3: One go down to a point five. There's scores lower there?

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Speaker 1: Why one of the logic behind the one point five? Yes, okay.

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I gave it a point five for the opening. I

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gave it a point five because it didn't look bad,

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so that one right there. And I gave it an

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extra point five because it made me laugh twice.

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Speaker 3: What were those moments that me you laugh?

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Speaker 1: When she like pulled a wand out of her tits

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and I just like, I don't even if I was

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laughing because it was funny. I think I was laughing

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at the show.

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Speaker 3: Off guard just and then she had.

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Speaker 1: Another wand and I don't even I don't even remember.

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I honestly, I watched these too close to when we

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finished the last podcast, but it just I don't know,

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I feel like, when you have an overpowered protagonist, it's

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like you want them to either be badass or like

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comedic because they were so overpowered, and I feel like

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this show found a way to do neither. It tried

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to do both and ended up doing neither. It had

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like there was no stakes. If I had no identity

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and truly badly, deeply, I think I would rather watch

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paint dry.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's one way to start podcast.

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Speaker 2: Breaks. I have a question, Okay breaks, have a question

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for you. How do you feel that this protagonist can

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actually destroy Saitama and Goku? How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: I don't care. He's a bad character and a bad show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he can literally kill.

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Speaker 1: Them, Like, yeah, so easily. I guess he could if

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they wanted to kill him. That resentment or that hatred.

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I think they would neither Saytama nor Goku would want

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to fight him nor hate him in any way.

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Speaker 2: But they can't. They literally can't even think about hurting him.

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That's how this this is probably the most overpowered character

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in all of anime.

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Speaker 1: Most likely well actually actually recon Goku's punches with beers

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or multi versal level. They made the universe shake therefore,

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hack abilities like this in an East Psichai world would

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not be would not apply due to his he is

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at such a higher level that the ants could not

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do anything. Okay, okay, mister Spartipant's okay, okay, Jordan, what

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did you think of this fulcan anime?

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Speaker 3: All right, So I think I'm actually gonna throw you

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a bit of a curve ball here, Briggs. I don't

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know if you expected this, but we got to start

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letting recon cook. I think he was actually kind of

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onto something with this one. As a bit of a

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heads up. I've seen a lot of bad Asa guy

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right back when the Kai Boom I would watch at

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least try out like every East of guy that kind

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of came out there for a bit. So I finished,

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like reincardinated in the second or another world for the

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second time. I've watched gyp so the smartphone hesa guy.

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I've seen some bad Issa guy, and there's a lot.

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kind of going down that route for the first three

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or four episodes. Uh, and I know we only had

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to watch three, so, like you know, I watched it.

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made me want to drop it, Like, uh, I guess

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there's a bit of a spoiler for people. He killed

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the cute cat girl, all right, he c he killed

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a lot of cute girls, and that made me really sad.

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watch it, I actually finished the sanname, No, you had

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a fun time with it. I finished it, and I

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Speaker 2: There's no way you actually finished it. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I did finish. I finished season one. I know there's

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probably gonna be a season two at some point. I'm

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here for it. So it was just a fun ride, right, Like,

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once you start going, there's a lot of twists and turns,

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and it kept me guessing. It was a lot of thought,

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like it seems like it would be so predictable, and

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parts of it are, but do those parts really matter? No,

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guessing on right, It was just a fun time, dude.

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Speaker 1: I think the scene where like her boob brushed against

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the guy in the first episode and I'm like, ha ha,

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they I just show us that angle and then he

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was like She's like why did you help me? Well,

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your boob brush brushed against me. It's like, not only was,

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it's just like, I feel like the jokes is fell flat.

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They were so stupid.

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Speaker 3: So yes, but it was so wholesome too. Besides that, right,

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there's that one moment, and there's a couple other etchy moments.

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it wasn't even the hair. It was very wholesome. They're

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holding hands in the opening. They're on the front of

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every Light Novel cover together. I don't know, I was.

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I was genuinely a little bit surprised by how much

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I enjoyed this show.

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Speaker 2: I had.

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Speaker 3: I had more fun with it than I expected.

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Speaker 2: I knew you, I knew you would like it, Jordan.

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Speaker 3: So so I will say I tried to read the

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first Light Novel, which led up to about twelve minute

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mark of the first episode, and you know, minus the

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backstory part. They kind of tossed that in there, and

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I dropped it. I couldn't really do it. I powered

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through those first few episodes, and then after that, you know,

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a watch party or whatever. But like people came in

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there like there's a lot of characters in this show,

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and I was like, correction, there was a lot of

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characters in the show. I don't have to remember names

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because everybody dies. And then it's you're just having fun,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I

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hope it got better after episode three. And to be honest,

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something about an instant death ability that was neither badass

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nor funny really got to me. It's like you couldn't

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even have a good reaction to him killing your buddy.

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It's like, I feel like everything was just like flatter

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than I would expect from this type of show.

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Speaker 3: But you got to remember his whole life, right, he's

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had They go back, they he lived in like a

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they go back. They explore his backstory and kind of

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why he is the way he is.

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Speaker 2: That power is not normally facility. He was kept in

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a facility for all of his age.

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Speaker 3: So because of that there, he's uh, he's not quite

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like ordinary people. He's a little bit twisted in that way.

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life that kind of taught him what humanity is, and uh,

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you see how that kind of shapes who he is.

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Speaker 1: It was so you think together for what it was,

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you think the protagonist with his backstory is well written.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say well written, but there was at

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least some thought put into it, right, Like writing is

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not easy.

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Speaker 1: Standards are so low. There was at least some thought

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put into it. Low key. When I watch this show,

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I'm like, it was it a fucking school project. I think.

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I think I was like reviewing one of my grade

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seven's fucking like story like short short.

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Speaker 2: Stories brings you're meant to enjoy watching a protagonist getting underestimated,

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which is what was happening for like ninety almost probably

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more than ninety percent. Everybody was underestimating the shit out

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of this character and they're all just dying for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeo, buddy, this this script was written on shatgybt.

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Speaker 3: So Briggs Briggs. The things with the stuff like Isakai

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and the problem I have with a lot of them

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is a lot of the better stories out there are

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inspired by something in real life or something from the

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creator they're inspired by other pieces of art outside of

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that medium. Isakais have kind of gone down that road

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where they inspire one another, and it's kind of like

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an or Boros in that way right where it's like

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this Isakai inspired this other East guy, that then inspired

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this other East guy, And there's so many that are

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bland and whatnot. This one at least tried to kind

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of break that mold. That poked some fun at some

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of the others. Is like introduced characters that are like

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the main protagonist in like h in some of the

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bigger ekai, and it's like you thought they were broken,

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here's why they're not right.

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Speaker 1: Like comparatively, I can't wait for the sequel. My ability

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makes people die before they even beat me. Y any

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edith that might becaut my enemy died before we even

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Speaker 2: I don't care what everyone says. This this this is Aki.

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and then finished it completely, it was very fun. Yeah,

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it's trash, it's very generic, but it was so fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I give it a one point five

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out of ten because I felt bad to give it less. Okay,

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I'm leaving at one point five out of ten, Jordan,

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what are you giving it out of ten? I'm giving

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it a three out of ten three at three solid three?

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Speaker 3: This? On the first episodes, I was expecting like a

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one maybe two? Why I beat my expectations.

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Speaker 1: So if I checked chat maybe laughed so hard my

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ability killed the whole world when I arrived.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go crazy with with how ISKI is going

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at the moment. I don't know up each other right,

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I don't know what kind of we're gonna be getting,

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but my god, there's just endless creativity with this dude.

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Speaker 3: I got.

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Speaker 1: I got to another world that the dvking died? Yeah, immediately? Okay, Rikai,

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what do you what do you give this show out

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of ten?

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Speaker 2: Uh? For me? I? When I watched it, I was

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a six out of ten. I was going to give

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it a six out of ten. Six I liked them, Yeah,

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six Outen? I liked him. Oh it wasn't mid. I

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wouldn't give a five like. It wasn't mid. It was

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it was solid for us, A solid ten, solid option.

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Speaker 1: Ten point five out of thirty is the score we've

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given this anime. Now, I just want to say, never

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would have watched that one otherwise, But I'm glad Jordan

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had fun and I actually will agree with recon. I

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think the only thing the show did decent sometimes from

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that feels like it should be exaggerated, like the reaction

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to killing your buddy should be so over the top,

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or to this guy's abilities should be so over the top,

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and I just like, I don't know, I felt like

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everyone was stone. Well maybe I was stone watching this anime.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: One of the biggest climaxes the entire anime. The fight

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was very anti climatic, uh, of course, but it's one

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of the biggest climaxes. It's literally the villain telling him

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that he's going to die and all this stuff, and

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then he just literally goes, no you, no.

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Speaker 1: Way.

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Speaker 3: He just goes no you, and then that's the fight

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that's like the climax and is like, man, that was

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like the most anti climatic climax I think I've ever

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seen in an anime.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, anti climactic in itself could be

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really funny and maybe that final scene is really funny,

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although a lot of other moments was not funny for me.

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Speaker 3: It was Okay, it was, it was it was amazing,

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but it was fun.

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Speaker 2: What a protagonist, man, what a fucking protagonist? Deal gidios.

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Speaker 3: But you would recommend I would not recommend anybody this anime,

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but he recommended it. I watched it and I had

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a little bit of fun with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, that was that was exhausting. That

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was exhausting, I the Aussie, almost as exhausting as watching

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the show. But look Back, Look Back. Jordan recommended the

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movie Look Back, guys. So we didn't watch episodes. We

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watched a movie. And I think it's a gorgeous movie.

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I think it's a beautiful movie. I really really enjoyed it.

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I have a couple of critiques, but I will let

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recon start off here, all right, trashhhhhhhhh there's no way

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you thought looked back with trash, There's no way.

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Speaker 3: Breaking my heart.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's listen.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I thought it was I thought it was okay,

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I thought it was nice. But I still think other

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movies just do so much better. Like a silent voice

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or I want to eat your pancreas is those two,

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in my opinion, are way better.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm just not that much of

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a fan of manga in general, because you know, I

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don't read manga. I don't like books. I hate books.

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the story. It's about two characters joining in together and

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they want to make manga together. Okay, so it was wholesome.

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One of them gets jealous the other. One of them

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gets jealous of the other because they think they're better.

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And then they team up and a tragic accident happens,

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and uh, yeah, did I cry? No, not as much

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as a silent voice or I want to hear your pancreas.

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It didn't. It didn't hit me like I was hoping

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it for.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I was depressed for the rest of it didn't

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hit me like, okay, okay, the character went through the

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depression arc, okay, but it just didn't hit me as

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much as the Silent Voice or I want your pancreas.

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Speaker 2: So for that reason, the movie was alright, not the greatest, alright.

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Speaker 3: Favorite movies of all time. That was also great.

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Speaker 1: What would you give it? A? A ten?

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Speaker 2: Recon out of ten, I'll give it a seven higher.

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Speaker 1: Than Opie Buddy just ripped on it and then gave

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it a seven out of ten. Oh my god, it

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is slightly better.

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Speaker 3: Than my instant ability is overpowered. Okay, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: The thing is because my death ability is fun. But

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this movie it was like it was made fun. Yeah,

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It's just it just didn't make me cry. It was

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like mid fun. It wasn't really that fun, but it was.

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It was mid fun. It was an okay story, good character,

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but yeah, just to make me move or feel anything.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Recon, you're cook what we gotta stop letting.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what you saw breaks you. You

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wanted this, you asked for it, you wanted this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, the preface I did tell Recon, I'm like,

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don't feel don't hold back for me don't hold back.

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You're gonna get hate comments. I'm sure you're gonna get

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hate comments, but please don't hold back for the sake

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of the podcast, because you would messaged me last week

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this fucking anime is passed, this anime this, I hate

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this that. Oh my god, this is torture or whatever.

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And then he gets to the episode he's like, I

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just don't like old anime. It's like, rip on it, dude.

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If you want to rip on a rip on it

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for the sake of the podcast, I think it makes

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it entertaining. I will say, though, Recon what's really funny

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to me is that you hate manga so much that

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you even hate the creative process of art. It went

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to the origins. It's like, I don't want to read manga.

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I don't I hate reading manga. Then now a show

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of about creating manga, I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty much it. You you you really nailed

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it with the breakdown, honestly, okay, perfect, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I actually feel tired episodes? What else? I think what

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I really liked about look Back was kind of like

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it was just watching these two characters that were both very,

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very talented kind of be insecure in their art, motivated

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by each other, kind of looking to each other for

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the help and relying on each other and thinking less

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of themselves. And it's like the struggle with the creative

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process and trying to like please each other. It was

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such an interesting dynamic between these two characters, and I

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wish I could like rationalize my thoughts here, But it

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was like one girl quit art at one point because

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the other girl that was like that was like a

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shut in, was better than her. But then the shut

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in was working so hard because she saw the other

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one's art and that's what got her into art in

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the first place. It was like, so one person's inspired

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by her sendpi and gets into the art, and then

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Sempi sees her art, not knowing that she inspired her

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and quits art because she's like, I could never be

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as good as her. And then eventually they become friends

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and team up, and you have this emotional run, Jordan.

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That run is fucking cinema. That run is actually cinema.

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The amount of emotions that were like told on her

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running home after meeting up with this girl and like

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getting back into art, from frustration to sadness to happiness

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to like motivation and like looking forward to things. You

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felt everything that she felt along this thirty second run

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Home in the Rain.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: A gorgeous way of showing without telling. It makes me

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so I want to talk about this more. Spoilers, guys, spoilers,

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spoilers on look Back, Spoilers on look Back. You have

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been warned. I think recom may I've already said it.

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I was depressed in accident happened. A tragic accident happens

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in the end, and I was definitely depressed. And I

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think I'm okay with the tragic accident happening and the

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realistic realism of the ending, and maybe some regret from

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one of one of their parts and one of their halfs. However,

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the alternate reality ending with like the manga thing going

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underneath the door and like what could have been, but

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then ending up in like a similar I don't, I don't.

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I didn't really like it all right.

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Speaker 3: I could touch all that here after a bit, but

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it just gives your thoughts here.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could. I'm trying to remember exactly how

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like exactly my thoughts on this alternate ending that was shown,

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and it wasn't even like what could have been if

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they were less insecure in their own abilities or what

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what what could have been if like things had a

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happy ending. It was like, I think it's ended up

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the same way, except for what the karate school and

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saved her in the end. I don't know. I don't,

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I don't, I don't remember. I don't remember exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that's the thing, right is uh. I could probably

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gush about this movie forever. But whenever you're reading the manga,

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the very first word you see on that chalkboard at

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the very start, the very first word on the page

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is the word don't. And then the last words you

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see in the in the manga are look back. So

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you know the that's the thematic meaning I took away

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from it was don't look back. And as she's processing

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that grief, she's thinking back about you know what ifs?

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What what if I never uh had never pulled her

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out of that room, out of the safety of that

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what could have been right? And even in those what

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if scenarios, like there towards the very end, like all

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everything was so different, but art is such a big

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part of her life. There towards the end, she still

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can't imagine her life without art, right, She's like, oh, yeah,

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I started drawing again. Let's do this together. She's trying

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to think of some way that that could have been,

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like a happy ending as she processes that grief, and

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I get having mixed emotions on that. But one of

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my favorite things about that was, like you said at

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the start, the impact that they had on one another

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in life. They kind of put each other on a

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pedestal and looked up to each other, And I don't

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think they realized how big of an impact they had

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on each other until there until the end. So whenever

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she's imagining that what if scenario, she she thinks back

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and in her mind, Kilmoto's life would have been mostly

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the same, Right, she still would have been great at art,

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she still would have gone dart school, she still would

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have succeeded just fine without me. But it's only like

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after processing that grief and like kind of walking to

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the room herself, she sees how big of an impact

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she had on Kiyomoto. Right with the sea on the

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back of the door, Jersey is hind on the door,

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still sitting there all the longest, She's written all over

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the place and whatnot, Like even though they weren't in

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contact for a few years and stuff there, like, the

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impact that they had on each other's lives was very real. Right.

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I think that's the overall message of the story is

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you got to kind of take the weight of the

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life you've lived, the people you've had interactions with and

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impacted in their lives, and you got to take the

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weight of all that. You've just got to continue walking

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forward no matter what. Right, you keep that with you.

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She puts it up on the window there at the

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very end of the manga panel. She keeps it with her.

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It's a part of her now that's never gonna go away.

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But you got to keep moving forward, right, don't stay

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in the past, don't keep looking back. You got to

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always move forward. So thematically, I love it as a manga.

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In the movie, you nearly.

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Speaker 2: Brought a tear to my eye, Jordan with that speech.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with Jordan, and I do agree like,

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don't look back in the way of regret, Like what

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could have been if I did this? What could have

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been if I did this, if I was nicer, if

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we didn't get into the fight, if I never pulled

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her out of the room. Absolutely. But one of the

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parts I really liked about the ending was seeing all

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the happy times they had together. They kind of took

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a time lapse of all the fun they had that

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we didn't really get to see a lot of it,

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and they showed us all this, all these years of

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working together, having fun and like the bond that they

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had together. And I like that because that's what you

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should be looking back on and celebrating her life, like

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celebrating her life, not the regret part. So I like that.

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It's just I swear those fifteen minutes of like them

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going back and like redoing it. I just didn't like

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the execution of it, because I agree she ended up

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going to art school regardless, and then the other girl didn't,

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and then she ended up going to karate and saving her.

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It was just a weird way of executing that. I

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think they could have showed it in a better way.

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If like, I don't, I can't. I can't think of the.

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Speaker 3: Fust I like the better the second time around them

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the first, just because I saw more of what they

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were trying to do. But I do see I at

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least see the first time I watched it. I think

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that was the part that was probably my least favorite

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part as well. So I at least see the complaint there, So.

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Speaker 1: Like, what do you think they were trying to achieve

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by showing that alternative reality? Like what was your what's

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your main takeaway?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my main takeaway is, like I said, they didn't

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really realize the impact that they hadn't one another's lives.

473
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,200
So in Fuji knows, she's like Kimoto would have she

474
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,759
would have been just fine without me, right, Like she

475
00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:08,240
would have still done all that and stuff, And there's

476
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:11,720
probably no truth to that. She's processing the grief and

477
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:14,759
then whenever she there's a lot of different ways you

478
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:16,960
probably interpret it. That's kind of what I got from it.

479
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,880
So and then it wasn't until she actually kind of

480
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,680
faced the reality of the situation and how much of

481
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,480
an impact they had on each other that she was

482
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:24,799
able to kind of move forward with it.

483
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Now, imagine they did an alternate ending where she never

484
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,359
pulled her out of the room, only part of that

485
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,160
comic strip she saw or never saw any of the

486
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,400
comic strip, and she never left the room, and she

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,039
continued to do art for fun in that room. But

488
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:41,799
in the end, let's say she dies around a similar

489
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:43,799
age or something. It's like he goes out to grab

490
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:45,440
a newspaper and gets hit by a truck or something.

491
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,279
It's like she wouldn't have had any of those happy

492
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:52,440
memories they shared. Yeah, nor went to like further her

493
00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:54,359
art more than just staying in her room and like

494
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,400
doing comics or whatever. Like, she achieved so much more

495
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,960
and had so much more fun. And I feel like

496
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,279
that could have been shown without her like going to

497
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,200
art school and then the pickact guy still going there,

498
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,599
and then her saving her with Corona. Yeah, he goes

499
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,400
a little bit over the top and like it achieved

500
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,240
a similar result, is not the result exactly great.

501
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: Fujimoto is always a little bit over the top. He

502
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,599
just kind of whacky, very skylistic of that. So there's

503
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,359
a lot of didn't he make chainsaw Man as well? Yeah,

504
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,279
it's out there chainsaw Man, that's what he's most known for.

505
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,799
He's done a lot of one shots, so I have

506
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:28,240
a bunch of his one shots here in the back

507
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,359
Look Back's not even my personal favorite. I love good

508
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,160
Bye Airy, but but yeah, it's a it's one that

509
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920
he put a lot of work in, though that was

510
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,240
really good as a manga, and my favorite part is that,

511
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:42,480
you know, as an anime, it was done by a small,

512
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,680
small studio. This is the longest thing they've ever done.

513
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,039
And the reason it's a small studio is it's because

514
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,240
it's like co founded by this uh one guy that

515
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,079
does a lot of work in the industry. He did

516
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,839
most of the things on this movie, so it was very,

517
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,519
very heavily influenced by him. He did the character designs,

518
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:03,119
a lot of the key frames, the the a freaking

519
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,680
art direction, et cetera. And he really wanted to bring

520
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,880
some of those big panel some of those big moments

521
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,200
I guess in their lives like to life and show

522
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,279
show it animated right, show it in ways you want

523
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:18,680
to be able to do in manga. So like a

524
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,079
big spread that's just two pages of her running in

525
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,720
the rain was turned into like a cinematic masterpiece, or

526
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,000
her at the very beginning when she first saw the

527
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,160
other art and compared it, right, she's running in frustration,

528
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,599
like those moments that are impactful in her life. I

529
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,279
feel like he just really brought those to life, and

530
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:34,920
you could tell it was a bit of a passion project.

531
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,319
There some short movie but one of my favorites.

532
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it an a point three out

533
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,279
of ten. Okay, so I think it's not quite like

534
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,319
a nine, it's not quite an eight. So I give

535
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,559
it an a point three instead of an a point

536
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,200
five because I'm weird. You know, I have a lot

537
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,720
of anime at eight point five on my list, and

538
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,680
I feel like, I'm like, yeah, I have a couple

539
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,240
issues with this show, but other than that, it was

540
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,880
beautiful and they did so many things. Well, okay, so

541
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:04,480
recon't give it a seven. I gave it a day

542
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,240
point three. What did you give it, Jordan?

543
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:09,559
Speaker 3: I think I have it at a nine point five

544
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,880
on my list, so that's yeah, I really enjoyed it.

545
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,119
So I'm a big Fuji motive.

546
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,799
Speaker 2: Wait, so what did you what did you give A

547
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,960
silent voice? And if you watched I Want to Hit

548
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,279
your Pancreas? What did you give those two?

549
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: I haven't seen I Want to Eat your Pancreas yet,

550
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,000
but I think I have a silent voice at like

551
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:29,640
a solid nine. I think I I love a silent voice.

552
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960
But I did a lot of character analysis videos initially

553
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,880
when I made my YouTube channel, so I analyzed the

554
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,559
crap out of both the manga and the or the

555
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,640
anime for that over and over and over. I think

556
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,119
I burned myself out a little bit kind of when

557
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,279
I did that. So I still appreciate and love the movie,

558
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,440
but I think I did end up like having like

559
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,039
a nine just because of that. Right, it's one I

560
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,640
can't go back and uh rewatch all the time time, okay.

561
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Fair so for personal reasons. Yeah, I also hate your

562
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,400
reasoning where it's like you don't that you don't like

563
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,279
this anime movie because other anime movies are better. Like, obviously,

564
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,079
I have so many other anime movies I like more

565
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,319
than this. I like, I like your Name more than this.

566
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,839
I like Princess Moaning okay more than this, like for

567
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,400
the nostalgia, and it's honestly a beautiful movie. This is

568
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,359
real close to it that it's up there. But I

569
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,839
wouldn't hate this less, okay, or hate this more because

570
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,880
those are good anyway, Cee, I think.

571
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:25,319
Speaker 2: We all had valid reasons for why we hate them.

572
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: No we didn't anyway. Legend of the Galactic Heroes my

573
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,079
my thick here recon take it away.

574
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: God damn, this ship sucks balls?

575
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:46,759
Speaker 1: Why why why, why why?

576
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: I hate old anime from the nineties. They look bad.

577
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Actually, the.

578
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: Animation is everything is bad about this and honest sleep

579
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,880
I struggled once again, and you know what I did.

580
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,240
I skimmed through.

581
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: You have to watch it. What is the blonde character's name?

582
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,119
Uh band?

583
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: George? No? George? Right?

584
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: Right?

585
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

586
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, the point where I think, yeah, I think Ryan

587
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,039
hard when he kicked the dude in the balls and

588
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:28,359
bashed someone in the back of the head with a rock.

589
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

590
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: So that was actually episode four. That means he watched

591
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,319
the episode what I did?

592
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,119
Speaker 1: Watch it for four? He watched He likes that.

593
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,839
Speaker 2: No, listen, listen, listen. I decided to give you like

594
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240
one or one or two more episodes, but I really

595
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:48,319
hated it. That's how I felt like, I want to

596
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,000
kick this anime.

597
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Let me cut you off. Here I cut you. I

598
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,000
I accidentally talked over you earlier. What you were saying?

599
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,160
You said, it looks bad, they look bad, they sound bad.

600
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Everything looks bad. The anime looks bad, the animation is trying.

601
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,839
They sound bad. I hate it?

602
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:02,359
Speaker 3: Did you?

603
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: I hate it?

604
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: Soundtrack? Did you at least like the soundtrack.

605
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,319
Speaker 2: It was okay, the soundtrack honestly.

606
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought it was music.

607
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,599
Speaker 3: This is so sad.

608
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was brilliant that the opiece sounds

609
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,480
like a national anthem. I thought that was really cool.

610
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,359
The background music during some of these epic wars is

611
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,559
really cool. I really enjoyed that. I will say Recon,

612
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,000
I kind of agree with you a little bit where

613
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640
it's like, as much as I love anime and I

614
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,079
know that I'm probably going to be a banger, the

615
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,200
amount of dialogue and like it just looking so dated.

616
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,279
I even struggled with it even so.

617
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: Why did you even recommend it in the first place.

618
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I've never watched it before, So I recommended something that

619
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,759
I thought I I just wanted to watch something that

620
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:47,720
was old, that was critically acclaimed.

621
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,079
Speaker 2: Uh this, nothing about this was literally critically acclaiming it

622
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,519
was shit.

623
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,839
Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh, we watched three episodes. Let's not let's

624
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,759
not get there. I think the concept of these gigantic

625
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:04,160
war is taking place, and yet how do I explain this?

626
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,599
It's I only watch three episodes, but what the what

627
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,839
did the narrator say in the beginning it's like the

628
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:13,119
effects of this war go on to effect affect future generations,

629
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,039
but also like have like very little effect on the

630
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,279
world at large. I can't remember the act.

631
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,839
Speaker 3: I mean there's many of planets because it's a space opera, right,

632
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,680
But yeah, it's been going on for hundreds of years,

633
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200
and then these players that were watching are just kind

634
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400
of one small part of that blip of history right

635
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,119
where where watching their perspective kind of on that conflict, right.

636
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, your thoughts, so hear your shot thoughts, right?

637
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I I feel like this one's kind of

638
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,000
right up my alley. I actually really enjoyed the first

639
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,640
few episodes, Like I feel like I was. I'd be

640
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,359
very biased towards this one. But it is a bit

641
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,880
tough for a format like this because with series like this,

642
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,559
you're gonna have a lot of information, don't make at

643
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:53,880
the start, You're gonna have a lot of setup. And

644
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200
the first two episodes are this big battle that's that's

645
00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,000
kind of laying the overlay of what both sides are,

646
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,799
a kind of what's going on, who the different players are,

647
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,400
and it's it's just basically a broad overview. Episode three,

648
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,880
you kind of zoom in more towards the Free Planets

649
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,039
Alliance and you see Yang and kind of what's going

650
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,680
on with him and those around him. Some of the

651
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,799
issues that they might have. How even if it's you know,

652
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,400
said to be a Free Planets Alliance and stuff, they

653
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,519
might not necessarily have freedom of speech or things like that. That, uh,

654
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:25,160
some of the things we take for granted, right, like

655
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,400
that she has the Secret Police coming after her because

656
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440
she h she spoke out against this conflict that they're

657
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:31,440
kind of benefiting from.

658
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: That. He was so funny, the twenty random dudes with

659
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,680
rods trying to attack one woman.

660
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,359
Speaker 3: Just came out and masks and all that. It's kind

661
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,119
of kind of terrifying and in that way. So we

662
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
zoom into that side. And then I watched another one

663
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
because I felt like they would do this, and I

664
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000
was right. So what they did in episode four was

665
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,759
they zoom into the Empire and you kind of see

666
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:55,359
right hard and Sigfreed's backstory, what his motivations are. And

667
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,119
so I feel like the first four episodes even are

668
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,920
a lot of setup. You're kind of getting introduced to

669
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,440
the characters and things like that, and like, so this

670
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,920
was one hundred and ten episodes, anime that was made

671
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,160
over like nine years from eighty eight to ninety seven,

672
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,079
so I'm sure there's a lot more there.

673
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: Jordan Key really watched the whole thing. Can you watch?

674
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna keep watching this one. I'm not dropping it.

675
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,160
It's right up my alley. I enjoyed the first four

676
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,359
episode's quite a bit. I don't know, I feel like

677
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,960
I'm just kind of bias towards series like that. I

678
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,440
like soap opera type stuff. I like, uh, politically military

679
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,000
driven stuff in the in fiction, it was, it was fascinating.

680
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:34,519
I liked it. You can see since I've watched series

681
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,319
like that that are a little bit newer, it's fund

682
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,079
seeing where that inspiration came from as a and like

683
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,759
how this inspired the series that came after. Right. So yeah,

684
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,200
I enjoyed it a lot, but it is a bit

685
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400
tough rating. Just the first four episodes get a bit

686
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,440
of a lower What we're what.

687
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: We're trying to do here with these three episodes is

688
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:53,960
kind of just got a first impression, see what we

689
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,880
like and see if it would make us want to

690
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,839
keep on watching, Like we don't need to give it.

691
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,200
The rating out of ten is not more. We're not

692
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,359
judging the entire show, guys, We're just judging the first

693
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,319
few episodes. And for the most part, like what if

694
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:06,160
we liked it, disliked it, and if we plan on

695
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,759
continuing to watch it. For example, this show had things

696
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,720
I liked about it that first war, watching that guy

697
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,240
kind of take command, like help save the kind of

698
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160
save the war. They were getting destroyed even though they

699
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,839
had more numbers because these other guys were like fighting

700
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,559
for pride and like not willing to like use certain strategies,

701
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,480
while rein hard was like catching them off guard, attacking

702
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920
their weak points, attacking them before they were able to

703
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,799
get their ships out of their main main ship or whatever.

704
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Like he had all these strategies, and even though it's

705
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:42,160
such a large war with millions of ships over hundreds

706
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880
and hundreds of kilometers, so there's so much strategy involved.

707
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:50,960
Even the timing to reinforce another unit has to be considered,

708
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,400
and it's like, if we're not going to get their

709
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640
own time to save them, then unfortunately, that's like sacrifice

710
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480
you probably have to make. And the old commander couldn't

711
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,480
make it, and the new commander was able to make

712
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,799
that sacrifice. And that's why they were able to like

713
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,279
not lose more and more men, but millions of people died,

714
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,360
and you saw the effects of this on their families,

715
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,920
and like you said, Jessica who stood up and then

716
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:13,920
had like the police trying to take her out. There

717
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,119
was a lot of good things with this show, but

718
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,159
I will say there was also so much set up

719
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,760
and so much dialogue that I did find myself bored

720
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,159
at times. But again it's only the first three episodes.

721
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,519
The fact that I like characters and I like the

722
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:27,880
setup should make me want to keep on watching it.

723
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I lost. The strategies we saw in the first

724
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,800
couple episodes were very basic. It's like said, the tactics

725
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,159
employed by Ryan Hard are very fundamental. It was literally

726
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,039
just if they separate, we pick them off one at

727
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:46,239
a time. So I think it Yeah, more so than

728
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,519
anything like strategically that impressed me. It was more so

729
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,119
just almost like the commentary of of hierarchies and if

730
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,440
there's incompetence at the top, the kind of losses that

731
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,800
can be incurred from that. Yeah, as they had trouble

732
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,159
adjusting in real time and like uh and and reacting

733
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,880
to that type of type of basic tactic. Right. They

734
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,320
lost so many people because of that, and we saw

735
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,039
that effect an episode uh in episode three, But but yeah,

736
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,840
it basically it's it was the equivalent of of us

737
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,800
playing apex and them getting angles and us going, let's

738
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,760
go get the one guy over here by himself. As

739
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,440
as a two or three men unit. Right, it was

740
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,199
also a rig one at a time.

741
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: Take one out at a time, catch people off guard,

742
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960
attack them before they're ready, the little things like flanking,

743
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,159
Like there was this very simple strategy, Like you said,

744
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,159
it was really funny how there was a circle of

745
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,480
ships because they were all just trying to flank each other.

746
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,079
Speaker 3: So and then they're just.

747
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Like yeah, they're like it an, we're just gonna have

748
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,679
more losses on both sides. No one's winning them. Especially

749
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:51,559
at that point it was probably closer to two million

750
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,800
ships each. So at that point, we're just gonna kill

751
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,199
each other. There's no more strategy involved at this point.

752
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: At that point, there was like a bit of winning

753
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,280
and losing on both sides as far as like the

754
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,679
Free Planet's Alliance at the start, they had no reason

755
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,400
to lose, but because they'd let themselves dig a hole

756
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,480
up to that point, getting out with just with that

757
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:12,400
result was considered kind of a win for the second half,

758
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,239
and then for Reinhardt, he like said he was the

759
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,559
underdog at the start of the first place, right, they

760
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,960
were out numbered, however many to I think they had

761
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,800
twice as many, right people, I could be wrong on that,

762
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:27,840
and then they had getting out, it was considered a

763
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,599
win overall.

764
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,559
Speaker 1: They had twice as many at first, and then by

765
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:33,360
the end it was pretty equal. So there's like, let's

766
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,320
just take get Out and consider to win on both

767
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,840
sides based on like the commander falling and this guy

768
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,320
taking over, et cetera. What are we going to rank

769
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,519
this out of ten guys?

770
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,079
Speaker 2: Okay, look, we get it. The whole show is a

771
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:48,480
space war trash characters, bad looks. I will literally never

772
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,119
talk about or watch this anime or ever again in

773
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:55,719
my life. I would rather watch the live action of

774
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Death Note again. I would literally want to see light

775
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:04,719
I would love to see Light Turner again.

776
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was I gonna say? Fuck Ricon? I will

777
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,920
say though the character designs, while looking very old, I

778
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,360
did like how like unique everyone looked, and I feel

779
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,159
sometimes in modern anime, like my instant death ability they

780
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,159
all have the same fucking faces. Like sometimes they're hot,

781
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,280
don't get me wrong, but like they all like sometimes

782
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,440
they so many characters look too similar for me, and

783
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,159
they change the hair color and it's lazy. And if

784
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:32,679
I do find like some of these guys with their

785
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,239
receding hairlines, the older commanders, I enjoyed the character designs

786
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:36,559
for them.

787
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would raid this a one out of ten

788
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,239
bye bye.

789
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,599
Speaker 1: One out of ten for Ricon Jordan.

790
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm kind of biased towards this thing, but since I'm

791
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,519
only rating the first few episodes, I'm gonna go ahead

792
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,280
and give it like a let's say, six point five

793
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,639
out of ten, right, I could. I could see it

794
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,199
going up with time. I see why it's one of

795
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,039
the classics just based off of that, and uh I

796
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,199
I imagine I would be a big fan and I

797
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,639
if I finished it, so I andiace towards this type

798
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:03,960
of show.

799
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:05,159
Speaker 1: I do think this is gonna be one of those

800
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,440
shows that gets better with every episode as the world

801
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,039
building and character of development happens. I'll give it a

802
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,840
six point five for now, and it's enough for me

803
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,239
to want to keep on watching. Yeah, but I will say,

804
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,519
what all are I was definitely bored at times because

805
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,119
it's a lot of like info dumps and dialogue, and.

806
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could definitely see why people say, like we're

807
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,840
people would say it's not the best thing they've ever

808
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,239
seen if we watch it nowadays, right, But I could

809
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,440
see why it was like seeing as being ahead of

810
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,880
its time and a lot of the things it did.

811
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So what is that twelve thirteen, fourteen out

812
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:41,119
of ten, I mean fourteen out of thirty. So highest

813
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,840
ranked for us would be look back at twenty four

814
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,320
point eight out of thirty. Lowest strength is recons with

815
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,159
ten point five out of thirty, and mine in the

816
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,800
middle once again with fourteen out of thirty. Do we

817
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
know what we want to recommend for next week?

818
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:04,119
Speaker 3: I believe I have hear me out, boys, I was

819
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:08,519
lower nineties. Please this week I proved that I could.

820
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,519
I could recommend something good if I want to. I'm

821
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:13,440
gonna let you guys go first, but just heads up.

822
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,880
I think I'm gonna try to be chaotic and go

823
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,920
back and forth. I just want to avoid that middle area.

824
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
So uh, let's see if I can get the lowest

825
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000
strength again next recall, what are you.

826
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: Think you go first, because I want you to first.

827
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: I had a couple I keep on like changing my pick.

828
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,840
I had some ideas, and now I think I'm determined

829
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,000
to get recon to like an old anime.

830
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,079
Speaker 2: Please stalk with the nineties.

831
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm begging you, manase it might be two thousands. Probably not.

832
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,760
It has a good first three episode. It's definitely not.

833
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:56,559
It has a good first three episodes. I'm determined to

834
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,840
get recon to like an old anime. The bias towards

835
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,360
the looks to be beaten by the quality of the

836
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,400
characters and the storytelling.

837
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 2: I know at the very least that I was like

838
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,440
a boxing anime. That's all I pretty much know.

839
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: One of the goats. It's one of my only uh

840
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:16,760
it's one of the only manga like in my top

841
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,519
five for manga and then also top ten for anime series.

842
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: It's just like the like, there was a boxing anime

843
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,719
that I really enjoyed. It was Megalo Box. If you

844
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,719
guys watched it, that was really dope.

845
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah my little Boxes all right, but EPO is better,

846
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,159
I will say so. You're lucky I didn't recommend Astro Boy,

847
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,119
one of the first god ever made bro.

848
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 3: Old School.

849
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,039
Speaker 2: You can't torture me like that.

850
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: I will.

851
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,679
Speaker 2: Oh god, how I made in two thousands? Bro?

852
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,519
Speaker 1: No skimming, no skimming, don't talk able to two thousand

853
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,280
a millionaires? Ago? Shut up five years ago.

854
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,679
Speaker 3: It was made by early two thousands. Madhouse though, so

855
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,719
like it local sounds really good for for the era

856
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,360
it was made.

857
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: So I agree.

858
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,639
Speaker 2: Actually I think this I think this animal is on Netflix.

859
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:13,000
I' much check it out on Netflix, that huge recone.

860
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: What's your recommendation, dude?

861
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 2: So since I gave you a generic trash is Achai,

862
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,280
let's see if I can find something a bit more better.

863
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:33,079
Have you? How about we go a little bit overboard? Shimanetta?

864
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,039
How about that Shimanetta?

865
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: People, I've never seen it?

866
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's what I want you guys to watch.

867
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,679
You're you're gonna love it.

868
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:45,559
Speaker 1: People have been wanting me to watch it for a

869
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,880
long time. I may have watched one episode, all right,

870
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,280
I'm thinking of the same the right thing. It's gold.

871
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:53,559
Speaker 2: Gold, isn't the one.

872
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: Where the girl where that they were like fucking panties

873
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,320
on their head and it's like, uh, sexual stuff is

874
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,079
banned or something.

875
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:02,039
Speaker 2: You're on the right track.

876
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:06,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on the right track, Jordan, what was the

877
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,920
first one? Again? That means I need to recommend something

878
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,880
that you guys probably won't like, but it's something I

879
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,639
still like. Right, So I need to I need to

880
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,199
go down a little bit. I'll also go older than

881
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,119
I've gone thus far.

882
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,119
Speaker 2: No, please, don't mean you guys I've.

883
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: Never heard of before. No, it's it's early two thousands,

884
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,880
so three two thousand and four around that time. It's

885
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:34,599
called Rumbling Hearts, Rumbling Heart. Yeah, it was a visual

886
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,599
novel adaptation that's basically like a soap opera. Like it's

887
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,599
just think of it as like watching The Young and

888
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,440
the Restless. You guys, you guys will have a good time.

889
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: It's Hearts Rumbling Hearts.

890
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,119
Speaker 3: I'll send a link to it here after the podcast.

891
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:49,599
Speaker 1: Is it.

892
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:53,159
Speaker 3: No, it's one A lot of people like it's It's

893
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:56,880
never been like highly acclaimed or anything like that. It's

894
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,480
just one that personally like left an impact on me.

895
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,599
All right, So it's a storm melodramatic, very soap operay.

896
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,920
But I like it. I like drama.

897
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does look like a visual novel, that's

898
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,440
for sure. But the two girls and the front interesting guys.

899
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:14,920
I studio, my studio.

900
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I could call this episode that

901
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,679
we did today the good, the bad, and the ugly anime.

902
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,039
So we got the good look back, the bad instant

903
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,880
death ability, and the ugly legends like a lot of heroes.

904
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: You know, you know, it's not that ugly. It looks

905
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,880
pretty I thought it looked pretty good.

906
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,199
Speaker 2: Why am I literally the only one? That's why? Am

907
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,559
I literally the only one recommending modern anime while you

908
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,119
guys recommend old ass anime.

909
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: I just recommended a twenty twenty four movie.

910
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: All right, yeah he did, Yeah, he just recommended.

911
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,599
Speaker 3: This is my first old anime.

912
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: This is all right?

913
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:55,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, guys, that was fun. RecA, I

914
00:43:55,639 --> 00:44:00,239
have a question for you. Yeah, do we do we

915
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,639
know how many episodes of like this new season of

916
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:05,960
anime are out?

917
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,559
Speaker 2: A lot of the anime are out of the moon,

918
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:10,480
a lot of them.

919
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,199
Speaker 1: But like not like a two or three is really

920
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:12,679
only one?

921
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,679
Speaker 2: So no, all of the episode ones I think are

922
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,599
out of the moment. The episode two's no, not.

923
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: So much episode two. Okay, so now, but.

924
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: If you one, we can give like first impressions basically

925
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,360
that's what we can do.

926
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I think next week, we're still gonna do this

927
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,679
series like Hadrepo, Shimunetta, Rumbling Hearts, and I think the

928
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,199
week after that maybe we'll do a break from this

929
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:37,320
and watch some seasonal stuff and talk about that. Let's

930
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,480
go first episode or first or second episode of each

931
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,719
or not of each, but like maybe like the first

932
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,039
like ten or fifteen shows, if you guys are down.

933
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm down to do some seasonals.

934
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, all right. On that note, Jordan, thank you

935
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,440
for joining me.

936
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Was a blast, was a pleasure.

937
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: And just like that, we'll see all next time. Space Cowboys,

938
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,639
bang shimpoku, fuck you Ricon.

939
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,079
Speaker 3: Later he stopped, like, let's go on,