Speaker 1: Hey guys princess here and welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: five pumpkin wrap-up edition so let's go ahead and wrap
Speaker 1: this week up and let's start off at the top
Speaker 1: and a segment i like.
Speaker 2: To call uh that man didn't die this week and
Speaker 2: he didn't but gloria steinem did r.i.p to gloria steinem
Speaker 2: if you don't know who that is she is just
Speaker 2: i mean she's honestly the face of feminism from like
Speaker 2: the 70s and 80s and a little bit of the nineties, but, um,
Speaker 2: that's what she is. And I, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: have a lot of like thoughts about Gloria. It's fine. I,
Speaker 2: she does represent a style and era of feminism that
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily align with. Uh, I, she definitely was
Speaker 2: an intersectional. Um, and I do want to like, I
Speaker 2: did feel bad for her. Like I was in the
Speaker 2: nineties where she came out and she was like, don't
Speaker 2: know she'd gotten she never had children that was like
Speaker 2: a big deal um people using her reproductive decisions to
Speaker 2: like highlight i don't know to decide what feminism isn't
Speaker 2: isn't but i remember she got married like late in
Speaker 2: life people were like how dare she she's supposed to
Speaker 2: hate men like i don't know man i know that's
Speaker 2: not what feminism is but i do often think about
Speaker 2: when you look at who she was in the 70s
Speaker 2: and stuff when she really when she really became like
Speaker 2: the face of feminist, is that she got to do
Speaker 2: that because she was pretty. Definitely. Now, in 2026, she
Speaker 2: wouldn't look like that. But in the 70s, she represented
Speaker 2: like that freshness, that look like you're not trying that hard,
Speaker 2: the straight hair and the skinniness and kind of like
Speaker 2: the fresh face of this of it all. Like that's
Speaker 2: what she looked like. And that's why she was able
Speaker 2: to be the face of feminism then. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm thinking a lot about who gets to
Speaker 2: be the face of a movement and why. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of like, I don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of like discourse to talk about Gloria, you know, RIP.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he still didn't die, huh? Well. Anyway, the
Speaker 2: next thing I want to talk about is, let's talk
Speaker 2: about Brittany and Jax. Apparently Brittany has filed for a
Speaker 2: temporary restraining order against Jax, which because she made that filing,
Speaker 2: a lot of what's in the filing is now public.
Speaker 2: Just so you remember that when you get a restraining order,
Speaker 2: you go temporary first and it doesn't take a lot
Speaker 2: to get that a temporary usually. You don't need a
Speaker 2: lot of supporting documents or supporting evidence to get a temporary.
Speaker 2: And then later on, you get a hearing for a permanent.
Speaker 2: And you usually do need a lot more. You need
Speaker 2: you need to show why this person can't ever be
Speaker 2: around you. So I'm pretty sure she got her temporary.
Speaker 2: But in the docs, what came out is that like
Speaker 2: what we know, Jax is still like crazy as shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't diagnose people. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck a diagnosed Jack's with, but it's something.
Speaker 2: He's very manipulative. He is... He's aggressive, yet also a victim.
Speaker 2: He lies and then lives in that lie and is
Speaker 2: angry at you because you won't live in that lie
Speaker 2: because it's not real. He is, like, obviously a personality disorder,
Speaker 2: but I'll leave it at that. And so he... apparently
Speaker 2: has been verbally abusive to Britney through the parenting app.
Speaker 2: If you aren't on high-conflict parenting, co-parenting TikTok, which I
Speaker 2: am for some reason, I get videos like this all
Speaker 2: the time. Who the fuck am I co-parenting with? Who
Speaker 2: do I have a high-conflict co-parenting relationship? No one. Yet
Speaker 2: I know exactly what to put in your co-parenting agreement.
Speaker 2: I know what to do if she shows up to
Speaker 2: the handoff with people who aren't supposed to be... Why
Speaker 2: the fuck do I get so much content like that
Speaker 2: served to me? It's cause I'm nosy. It's cause I'm
Speaker 2: fucking nosy. But, um, um, use those parenting apps because
Speaker 2: they record everything you say. You can't delete things out
Speaker 2: of them. They're admissible in court. Most people are on
Speaker 2: their best behavior. They're if a little petty, maybe, but
Speaker 2: on their best behavior, not Jax. He's being verbally abusive,
Speaker 2: calling her stupid and fat and, and a whore and
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. He's doing that in the app.
Speaker 2: He's doing it in front of the crew. Sometimes he also, apparently,
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. This is, it must
Speaker 2: be post breakup, but he like showed up at her
Speaker 2: house and broke all her shit up. And like, she
Speaker 2: has three iPhones. And if you just heard my princess
Speaker 2: diaries episode, you have no reason to judge, but she
Speaker 2: has like three iPhones and an iPad and a MacBook.
Speaker 2: He broke them all up and like destroyed her property
Speaker 2: and stuff. Cruise was there. And so like, yeah, she
Speaker 2: needs to get a restraining order against him. I don't
Speaker 2: know how that's going to work for her because when
Speaker 2: the courts are involved, when family, she also filed for
Speaker 2: full custody of Cruz. And I think some people don't
Speaker 2: understand what full custody means. It doesn't necessarily mean that,
Speaker 2: that Jack's parental rights don't exist anymore. Jack's parental rights
Speaker 2: don't exist anymore. It means that she would have decision-making
Speaker 2: powers over a lot of things and he wouldn't. it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that Cruz would never see him again. Uh,
Speaker 2: the family court is, uh, the family court is supposed
Speaker 2: to be centered on what's best for the child that
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily always think that that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But even if Brittany had full custody, a family court to, uh,
Speaker 2: ban Jax from seeing Cruz would be a whole different thing. But, uh,
Speaker 2: This isn't what I'm talking... Like, obviously, I believe this. Like,
Speaker 2: this is... This is pure Jax. This is Jax. He
Speaker 2: was probably high as shit when he was doing it.
Speaker 2: And also, some of the shit isn't him being high.
Speaker 2: Some of that's his brain chemistry. You know? I believe
Speaker 2: all of it. And we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that she might get a permanent restraining order,
Speaker 2: like I said. And I don't know how co-parenting would
Speaker 2: work if she got a permanent restraining order. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that what she's trying to get, although I feel like
Speaker 2: she should have already had this, is... for Jax not
Speaker 2: to be able to be on her property and Jax
Speaker 2: not to be able to contact her outside of parenting crews,
Speaker 2: you know? So, um, so that's happening. Right. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 2: what I've noticed is that the discourse has kind of
Speaker 2: swung to like, Brittany's no, Brittany's no victim. Brittany's a liar.
Speaker 2: Brittany knew who she was when she, when he married her,
Speaker 2: when she married him. And like, yeah, that's all true. I, I,
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I feel like the king of like, uh,
Speaker 2: two things can be true land, right? I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm constantly saying that, that more than one thing can
Speaker 2: be true at the same time. And it is true
Speaker 2: that Britney is responsible for her own actions. Britney is
Speaker 2: not an innocent. I've been telling you guys that for years.
Speaker 2: People act as if Britney is stupid. Britney has no
Speaker 2: idea what's going on. I don't think that's true at all.
Speaker 2: And I also think a lot of the people who
Speaker 2: are really upset with Britney right now are danny and
Speaker 2: nia fans who are upset that britney doesn't like nia
Speaker 2: and britney does not like nia she she doesn't say
Speaker 2: it straight she does not like nia um i'm not
Speaker 2: sure like i don't know if you if you've heard
Speaker 2: danny and nia have left the valley they're not going
Speaker 2: to be coming back which is a good decision for
Speaker 2: them it's a good decision for us too i don't
Speaker 2: want to see them anymore not excuse me i don't
Speaker 2: want to see them in this iteration i would have
Speaker 2: been fine with them in friends of but Like, if
Speaker 2: I were them, I wouldn't be on the show either. Like,
Speaker 2: you can't control your edit on a show like that. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe if you guys go get a show on TLC
Speaker 2: called Me and Danny 404 in Santa Clarita, you might
Speaker 2: have more ability to control that. But even on that
Speaker 2: type of reality show, at some point there must be
Speaker 2: some conflict. So if the conflict isn't going to be
Speaker 2: a relationship, where's the conflict going to come from? These
Speaker 2: shows are about conflict and resolution. It can't just be...
Speaker 2: Everything's perfect. Don't look over here. That's more of an
Speaker 2: influencer thing than a reality TV show. You guys probably
Speaker 2: can make a billion dollars being influencers. So go do that.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, a lot of people are
Speaker 2: upset about that. People really want to be Nia. They
Speaker 2: really want to be Nia. They want to be as
Speaker 2: pretty as she is and as soft as she is
Speaker 2: and they want to be her and therefore they want
Speaker 2: to protect her. And the fact that Britney doesn't like
Speaker 2: her and that Britney I would say not even forthcoming,
Speaker 2: like a little underhanded, the way that she comes in.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are upset at Brittany
Speaker 2: about that. I think there are also a lot of
Speaker 2: people doing a lot of victim blaming. And I hate
Speaker 2: to use that word, but it is what's happening. You guys,
Speaker 2: if you listen to me for even a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know that I'm like super serious about personal responsibility.
Speaker 2: Personal responsibility is incredibly important to me. And I wish
Speaker 2: I could just put it in a spray bottle and just, like,
Speaker 2: walk around spraying it on people. Like, you get some
Speaker 2: personal responsibility. You get some. You get some. You get some.
Speaker 2: Take responsibility for your fucking actions. But personal responsibility is
Speaker 2: just that it's personal. and it's being responsible for your
Speaker 2: actions Brittany can't take responsibility for Jax being physically abusive
Speaker 2: to her because those aren't her actions when we say
Speaker 2: take personal responsibility that means that you are like the
Speaker 2: actions that you that you take have reactions and have
Speaker 2: effects and those are things you must own. Yeah. Having
Speaker 2: personal responsibility is more like, Hey, I married this guy
Speaker 2: cause I really want to get married. And I let my,
Speaker 2: my eyes get too big. My, my eyes are bigger
Speaker 2: than my stomach. And I really thought I could take
Speaker 2: a lot of things that I shouldn't have been able
Speaker 2: to take. I hit a lot of stuff. Like if
Speaker 2: you want to sit and talk about Brittany and Jax's
Speaker 2: wedding season on VPR that ruined that fucking show in
Speaker 2: which Brittany was determined. She was doing a Nia, actually.
Speaker 2: That's what she was doing. She was determined to be like,
Speaker 2: everything's fine over here. Jax is perfect. I am perfect.
Speaker 2: This is the perfect season. And the show tried to
Speaker 2: go along with it. And the rest of us were like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not, no. And it ruined VPR because no matter
Speaker 2: what happened, no matter where a storyline went, Brittany shut
Speaker 2: it down if you want to talk about that and
Speaker 2: the lies that were told there and the ways in
Speaker 2: which she protected Jack Jax I'm willing to talk about
Speaker 2: that but I I am not willing to in conversation
Speaker 2: about her filing a restraining order which is what she
Speaker 2: should do restraining orders are pieces of paper they're not
Speaker 2: literal protection but they are legal protection She needs to
Speaker 2: be laying the groundwork for that. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 2: going to protect him from hurting her because we all
Speaker 2: know that people, you know, that piece of paper doesn't
Speaker 2: do shit when somebody's determined to hurt you. But this
Speaker 2: is what she needs to do legally. I'm not willing
Speaker 2: in that conversation to be like, well, she knew who
Speaker 2: he was when she married. If she did, so what?
Speaker 2: Then what? She's supposed to just let him do it?
Speaker 2: We're in this space right now where It's incredibly important
Speaker 2: that people talk to, I'm going to say women, but
Speaker 2: I mean everyone, but talk to women in relationships as
Speaker 2: if everything, bad thing that happens in that relationship is
Speaker 2: their fault. And depending on where the sound is coming from,
Speaker 2: it might be it's your fault because you didn't keep
Speaker 2: this relationship sexy and you didn't make sure he loved
Speaker 2: you and you became a lump and you did this
Speaker 2: and you did that. Or it could also very well
Speaker 2: be like, well, you didn't see all the signs There
Speaker 2: was a sign that he was going to leave you
Speaker 2: for someone else and did not pay child support. You
Speaker 2: just didn't notice it. And you closed your eyes. That's
Speaker 2: how people talk to people at a crossroads that need
Speaker 2: to figure out what to do. What they do is
Speaker 2: they spend a lot of time trying to shame them
Speaker 2: for where they are. And believe me, I think shame,
Speaker 2: my therapist would disagree, but I think shame can be
Speaker 2: a useful tool. I just don't think it's necessarily the
Speaker 2: most important thing here. I actually don't want Brittany to
Speaker 2: sit around and be ashamed of herself. I want her
Speaker 2: to do something. And when we think about like the, well,
Speaker 2: this is happening because I didn't marry a loser or
Speaker 2: you should have picked better or you chose him. That
Speaker 2: stuff all comes from the same bowl of soup, okay?
Speaker 2: That's all floating around the same bowl of soup. This
Speaker 2: idea that whatever's going on in your relationship, it's because...
Speaker 2: of the actions that you took. You chose him. You
Speaker 2: should have known better. You should have seen this was
Speaker 2: going to happen. I, uh, people love the post men
Speaker 2: doing the bare basics and be like, cause I didn't
Speaker 2: marry a fucking loser because you chose well, right? Here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Most people don't try to marry losers. Most
Speaker 2: people try to marry the best person they possibly can
Speaker 2: And most people who are losers or abusers or just
Speaker 2: like fucking crazy psychos don't act like that when you
Speaker 2: first meet them. Otherwise, they couldn't get what they wanted, right?
Speaker 2: Most people are on their best behavior for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there might be signs, but most people do
Speaker 2: not actively marry someone that's going to ruin their lives.
Speaker 2: And I think this, well, I didn't marry a loser. Well,
Speaker 2: you chose them. Well, that's what you get. I think
Speaker 2: that's a lot of like when we talk about drug abuse,
Speaker 2: where people will try to find out what is the secret?
Speaker 2: What is the thing that led to the addiction? What
Speaker 2: is the thing that this person didn't do right or
Speaker 2: their mom didn't do right or whatever that made this
Speaker 2: happen so that they can avoid it, so they can
Speaker 2: convince themselves that they're in no danger of that. And
Speaker 2: I guarantee you some of these people that are on
Speaker 2: the Internet crying because they are they are now single
Speaker 2: moms with five children and and their ex-husband has moved
Speaker 2: in with their sister and is refusing to take child support.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you there's that if I go scroll back
Speaker 2: far enough, I'm seeing like posts where they're like, I
Speaker 2: didn't marry a fucking loser. Because, yeah, at that moment,
Speaker 2: it didn't seem like you did. Also, people change. People change.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about, I'm talking in general, I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about Brittany and Jax anymore. I actually do think
Speaker 2: that Brittany definitely needs to take responsibility for some choices
Speaker 2: that she made, but those choices will never be, oh,
Speaker 2: I need to take responsibility because Jax is being physically
Speaker 2: abusive to me. That's my fault. It's not her fault.
Speaker 2: He's responsible for his own actions. I don't mind if
Speaker 2: we want to sit and talk about ways in which
Speaker 2: we can behave better to try to get better outcomes
Speaker 2: in our lives let's talk about that but I'm never
Speaker 2: here for and that's your fault that that person did
Speaker 2: that to you I don't know like and also we
Speaker 2: can't go back like where does Brittany knew exactly who
Speaker 2: she married fit into the conversation of this man busted
Speaker 2: up in my house talked to me crazy in front
Speaker 2: of my son is verbally abusive broke up my shit
Speaker 2: I'm scared that he'll come back and do it again
Speaker 2: what is Where is, in that conversation, where's there space for, well,
Speaker 2: he was a bad person when you married him. Where's, like,
Speaker 2: what is she supposed to do? File the restraining order
Speaker 2: like she did. You don't even know if she is
Speaker 2: at the courthouse being like, he was never like this ever.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what's going on. I think. And
Speaker 2: I'm less interested in that than I am interested in
Speaker 2: what happens next. And I think we should all be
Speaker 2: more like that in our lives. I just don't understand. Well,
Speaker 2: I do understand. It's called misogyny. I'm not in the
Speaker 2: mood to hear about how at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: whatever Jax does, it's Britney deserves because it's not true.
Speaker 2: Whatever he does is not fine because Brittany married him
Speaker 2: and he'd already cheated on her. We're not even talking
Speaker 2: about that right now. Like, don't feel sorry for her.
Speaker 2: You don't have to. You don't have to feel sorry
Speaker 2: for anybody. I don't feel sorry for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: But is the reason you don't feel sorry for her
Speaker 2: because you feel like that by marrying Jax that she
Speaker 2: gets what she fucking deserves? Forever? So if he goes
Speaker 2: in there, he fucking kills her. She gets what she deserves?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: People are so fucking weird. Anyway, prayers up for Cruz.
Speaker 2: That's the person that's going through it the most. Prayers
Speaker 2: fucking up. What else do I want to talk about?
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Raven-Symoné and Kiki Palmer. I
Speaker 2: want to talk about the two of them real quick.
Speaker 2: It's a twofer for them. So, uh, Keke Palmer had
Speaker 2: Raven Simone and her wife, Miranda. Imagine being named Miranda
Speaker 2: and people keep, and every time people say your name, they,
Speaker 2: they do a little Steve voice from Sex and the City. Miranda.
Speaker 2: She's married to a woman named Miranda. She's a white lady. Okay.
Speaker 2: This is important. Um, Raven and Miranda are often, they
Speaker 2: have a podcast together. Um, Raven is a child star,
Speaker 2: as you know, very important to the Black community, very
Speaker 2: beloved by the Black community. And Miranda is, her daddy
Speaker 2: invented like toothpicks or something, something like that. She's got money.
Speaker 2: She's got more money than Raven does. And they're often
Speaker 2: seen online. And Miranda is, people are always excited to
Speaker 2: see Raven and not Miranda. And Miranda often spends a
Speaker 2: lot of time sunning Raven. in a way that people
Speaker 2: take offense to. Mostly, I didn't know who Raven was.
Speaker 2: I was not a fan of Raven. I didn't watch
Speaker 2: the Cheetah Girls or Daxo Raven. I'd never seen an
Speaker 2: episode of The Cosby Show or Hanging with Mr. Cooper
Speaker 2: or Xenon or any... I never turned on Disney Channel
Speaker 2: ever because the way that Disney Channel was is that
Speaker 2: if you did, then you would see the stars because
Speaker 2: they would be in the interstitials. They'd be everywhere. But
Speaker 2: she claims... Well, she used to claim that she never
Speaker 2: even heard of Raven. And now she claims, well, I
Speaker 2: just wasn't watching That's So Raven. And people really beat
Speaker 2: up on her before last time. So I think they
Speaker 2: were on Kiki's Podcast the last time they said that.
Speaker 2: They came back to Kiki's Podcast. Before I start talking
Speaker 2: about that, let me talk about fucking Kiki Palmer. So
Speaker 2: Kiki Palmer recently, apparently, was at Quincy... Is his last
Speaker 2: name Combs? I don't know his last name. Quincy's birthday party.
Speaker 2: He is Diddy's son. He's not Diddy's... He's not Diddy's
Speaker 2: biological son. Diddy has six children he's got Chase which
Speaker 2: is a little girl that was like had like two
Speaker 2: she was like born like six months after the twin
Speaker 2: girls he had with um Kim Porter who uh he
Speaker 2: murdered I have no proof of that I just say
Speaker 2: that because what's he gonna fucking do about it um
Speaker 2: So he's got those. Then he's got a son named
Speaker 2: Christian who looks just like him. He's got a son
Speaker 2: named Justin who I'll call him lighter. He's lighter than Christian.
Speaker 2: And then his oldest is Quincy. And Quincy is not
Speaker 2: biologically his. Quincy is the son of Ken Porter and
Speaker 2: I'll be sure. I don't have time to explain to
Speaker 2: you who fucking I'll be sure is. You don't know
Speaker 2: who that is unless you're old and black. Albie Shore
Speaker 2: is black famous and not just black famous, old black famous, okay?
Speaker 2: There's no reason for you to know who Albie Shore is,
Speaker 2: but if you really, really want to Google it, okay?
Speaker 2: But that is Kim's son with Albie Shore. But all
Speaker 2: his life, people, Diddy has claimed him, even when he
Speaker 2: wasn't with Kim. Because remember, there's like a big jump
Speaker 2: between Christian and the girls, right? him and Kim were
Speaker 2: on and off, on and off. Um, so, but he's all,
Speaker 2: but Diddy's always claimed him. His name is Quincy. It might,
Speaker 2: his last name might be Combs. He was in Star, okay?
Speaker 2: He was the dude in the wheelchair in Star, okay?
Speaker 2: That's Quincy. Now, okay. Kiki was at Quincy's birthday party
Speaker 2: taking a picture with him. And a lot of people
Speaker 2: were like, oh, so you're partying with Diddy now. Quincy's
Speaker 2: not Diddy. But I do want to remind you that
Speaker 2: when the court case was going on and stuff, those
Speaker 2: kids were at the courthouse supporting him. I wasn't surprised
Speaker 2: by that. And I also wasn't willing to draw a
Speaker 2: bunch of conclusions from that because they could have been
Speaker 2: there for any number of reasons. They could have been
Speaker 2: there because they thought he was innocent. They could have
Speaker 2: been there because they didn't think he was innocent, but
Speaker 2: he's their father. They could have been there because they
Speaker 2: know he's not innocent because they participated and they were
Speaker 2: doing their own shit. They could have been there because
Speaker 2: the lawyer said that you need to come here and
Speaker 2: their father said, if you don't come here, there ain't
Speaker 2: going to be no money for, I hope you don't
Speaker 2: think that you're going to be staying in that house.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying for this car. Like it could have
Speaker 2: been a leverage. It could have been a million fucking
Speaker 2: reasons they was there. I was never surprised, but I
Speaker 2: also didn't draw that many conclusions because there's a spectrum
Speaker 2: of things that could be happening here. Whatever. But he's
Speaker 2: not Diddy. Okay? I actually don't know if he was participating.
Speaker 2: He could be. He could have been. He could have
Speaker 2: somebody locked up in his basement right now. I don't
Speaker 2: know this man. But the reason people are like, what
Speaker 2: is Kiki doing there? Because I don't know where this
Speaker 2: birthday party is held. Maybe it was in the house
Speaker 2: with the freak-offs. I don't fucking know. Maybe Kiki was
Speaker 2: at the fucking freak-offs. Nobody, but people were like, side-eyeing her.
Speaker 2: I want to remind you something about Keke Palmer. She
Speaker 2: is also beloved by the Black community. She is ours, right?
Speaker 2: She is a Jack, she's a Jill of all trade,
Speaker 2: master of none. There's a messiness about her career that
Speaker 2: I'm like, it feels like she can do anything. Keke,
Speaker 2: keep a job. Palmer can do anything. But also, are
Speaker 2: you supposed to do anything? Like, what is your main thing?
Speaker 2: But fine, fine, fine. Keke makes questionable judgments. Do I
Speaker 2: find Kiki Parma funny? Yes, I fucking do. I think
Speaker 2: she is so fucking funny. During the... When Wicked was
Speaker 2: doing on their press... And Kiki was in some movie
Speaker 2: with Issa Rae. Maybe. No, it was an Issa Rae
Speaker 2: movie that Kiki was in with SZA. And they were
Speaker 2: doing press for it. And Kiki lets out this part
Speaker 2: of Defying Gravity. Like... And says, that is a Negro
Speaker 2: spiritual and it's funny as shit. And she was running
Speaker 2: around the entire press run of Wicked doing Cynthia's part.
Speaker 2: In fact, she wins at the BET Awards, which Cynthia,
Speaker 2: why are you there? Didn't you have a lot of
Speaker 2: very stern things to say about Black American women? Like,
Speaker 2: people don't forget that type of shit. Get the fuck
Speaker 2: out of there. The BET Awards is ours. Anyway, she
Speaker 2: was there and she lost to Kiki. Kiki gets up
Speaker 2: on the stage and goes, I didn't think I was
Speaker 2: going to win this. And points at Cynthia Reeve and goes, well,
Speaker 2: that's the whole fucking thing. Kiki is funny as shit.
Speaker 2: All right. She is funny. If you look at her
Speaker 2: compilations on like Twitter, like edits of her. Or they're like,
Speaker 2: what's your favorite cuss word? She's like, motherfucker. She is funny.
Speaker 2: But being funny does not also mean you have good morals.
Speaker 2: You can make me chuckle and smile when I see
Speaker 2: you and also have really bad morals. And I want
Speaker 2: to be clear about Kiki Palmer. I don't think she's
Speaker 2: doing any freak offs, okay? I'm not saying that. But
Speaker 2: Kiki Palmer, at least once a business quarter, does some
Speaker 2: shit that makes me side eye her. At this point,
Speaker 2: like when she wanted Jonathan Majors on her podcast. Why? Why?
Speaker 2: Why is it necessary for you to have him on?
Speaker 2: Kiki is always almost about to get canceled. If you
Speaker 2: were not on Twitter, you do not remember that Kiki
Speaker 2: would almost get canceled. Like I said, once a business quarter.
Speaker 2: If it came out that Kiki was ghostwriting Chris Brown's memoir,
Speaker 2: I would not be that surprised. And that's why I
Speaker 2: wasn't surprised to see her cheesing with Quincy And I
Speaker 2: wasn't surprised, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out
Speaker 2: that she was a supporter of Diddy. And I also,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised, well, I'd be a smidge surprised
Speaker 2: if Kiki showed up at the White House next week.
Speaker 2: I'd only be a smidge because Kiki's morals are suspect, okay? Anyway,
Speaker 2: but that's part of what everyone's been talking about this
Speaker 2: week is those... But Kiki, Kiki, I don't know, she...
Speaker 2: What do we do about it, Kiki? That's that's how
Speaker 2: I feel about that. But anyway, one thing she did
Speaker 2: do right. She had Raven and Miranda back on her
Speaker 2: show and she really did like hold Miranda's feet to
Speaker 2: the fire because Miranda was like, oh, I'm not mad
Speaker 2: at you or anything. But, you know, that was where
Speaker 2: all the hate came from is when we came. I
Speaker 2: came on here and I said I didn't watch Raven's
Speaker 2: That's So Raven. By the way, I'm not mad at
Speaker 2: you or anything. Good, because you don't have no reason
Speaker 2: to be mad at me for it. You're the one
Speaker 2: that said this shit. And Kiki was like, yeah, but
Speaker 2: you're saying that you didn't turn on Disney Channel in
Speaker 2: 1999 or 2001? No, I didn't. There is such a
Speaker 2: thing as black famous, where somebody is known only to
Speaker 2: black people or mostly known to black people. Beyonce for
Speaker 2: a long time was black famous and then became white famous,
Speaker 2: famously with the single lady shit. And then went back
Speaker 2: to being, but I'm still black. I'm still black. I'll
Speaker 2: be sure it's black famous. Old black famous. Black famous
Speaker 2: to old people. Keke Palmer is someone that, although she's
Speaker 2: known by many different types of people, she is black famous.
Speaker 2: Raven is beloved by black people. But Raven was not
Speaker 2: just seen by, Raven's on the Disney channel. Like I said,
Speaker 2: Raven is a fucking cheetah girl, okay? Like, get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of here. Um, I don't, I do believe, well,
Speaker 2: now it's very easy for us to be in pockets
Speaker 2: of pop culture and never, the way the algorithm treats
Speaker 2: us is it shows us what we want to see.
Speaker 2: And so there's whole, there's always shit I don't even
Speaker 2: fucking know. Even now, like if you're listening to this
Speaker 2: wrap up, you might be like, Princess never talks about the,
Speaker 2: the pop culture happenings that I see all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Our algorithms are completely different. But in the time she's
Speaker 2: talking about, we had more of a monoculture in that
Speaker 2: we saw more things than just what we were interested in.
Speaker 2: I only, famously, famously, I only found out there was
Speaker 2: more there were three Jonas Brothers, actually four, okay? Four
Speaker 2: Jonas Brothers. I only found out a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I honestly thought it was the tall one and the
Speaker 2: little one. That's what, I didn't know there was a
Speaker 2: middle one and then one that was off the screen.
Speaker 2: But I, because I'm not the target audience, I'm too
Speaker 2: fucking old for it. But I did know the Jonas
Speaker 2: Brothers existed. I did not, I obviously could not be
Speaker 2: watching Hannah Montana. I'm way too old for that. But
Speaker 2: I knew a Hannah Montana existed and I knew kind
Speaker 2: of the premise of the show and I knew who
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus was. Pretending like I did not know who
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus was is crazy. She was very famous. And
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about Miranda talking about Raven. But
Speaker 2: I actually... I don't want to talk about that particularly.
Speaker 2: I've told you guys before that Raven is where she
Speaker 2: wants to be. Their relationship is weird. I'm going to
Speaker 2: be honest. Their relationship is fucking weird. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: what they see in each other. They don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of sexual chemistry. And they talk... as if they
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of sexual chemistry behind the scenes either.
Speaker 2: But a marriage is not made on sexual chemistry and
Speaker 2: if the people in the marriage are happy with that,
Speaker 2: then that's all that matters. It's a partnership in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways and sometimes this partnership may not be
Speaker 2: like You know, it might not be about who has
Speaker 2: sexual chemistry and not. I just find that, like, I
Speaker 2: don't see it with those two. But they see it,
Speaker 2: and that's all that matters. But I've said before, Raven's
Speaker 2: right where she wants to be. That's where she wants
Speaker 2: to be. She likes that. And I don't know why
Speaker 2: she likes it, but she likes it. It's hard to
Speaker 2: watch someone who's so beloved and who's had so many,
Speaker 2: her fingerprints in Black pop culture... kind of be like
Speaker 2: diminished by someone but yeah she like it so what
Speaker 2: the fuck am I supposed to do that's what she
Speaker 2: want to be what are y'all talking about save Raven
Speaker 2: Raven don't want to be saved don't save her she
Speaker 2: don't want to be saved she don't want to be
Speaker 2: fucking saved leave her right there but that's actually not
Speaker 2: the main thing I want to talk about I want
Speaker 2: to talk about I don't know if she did this
Speaker 2: on Kiki's podcast or if she was on something else
Speaker 2: but um Raven was talking about Howie made the assumption
Speaker 2: that Raven Baxter, who is the character on That's So Raven,
Speaker 2: was black. Close your eyes. She could have been green.
Speaker 2: Raven is known for saying shit like this, okay? Remember
Speaker 2: when she said that she's not African American, she's just American?
Speaker 2: And although I don't think that was actually that bad.
Speaker 2: People took that really badly. Remember she said she's from
Speaker 2: every continent on the planet or something like that? I
Speaker 2: do think she doesn't say things... I don't think she's
Speaker 2: good at the way she words things. When she said
Speaker 2: she was an African American, that was years and years ago.
Speaker 2: Most black people in America do not necessarily identify with
Speaker 2: a country or an area in Africa because most black
Speaker 2: Americans are from here. When we say African American, when
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of somebody who is either two, three generations
Speaker 2: here in America from an African immigrant. And Black Americans
Speaker 2: are not immigrants, okay? They were stolen. They were sold
Speaker 2: and stolen. And so that's why it's so offensive when
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, you don't know Black Americans from
Speaker 2: where they're from. No, we're from here. We're Americans. We're
Speaker 2: from here. My mother's mother's mother's mother's mother from here
Speaker 2: was born on this soil. I'm from here. And that
Speaker 2: is a conversation that is worth having and that it
Speaker 2: feels like that's part of what Raven was trying to say,
Speaker 2: but not that. I don't know why she was on
Speaker 2: The View. Honestly, I don't think we should be listening
Speaker 2: to Raven talk that much at all, and I'll get
Speaker 2: to that. When Raven said.
Speaker 2: Why did you think that's so Raven? First of all,
Speaker 2: she called it TSR. That's so Raven. Why did you
Speaker 2: think that was a black show? And she, and I
Speaker 2: do think she mentioned something about how they're being right.
Speaker 2: White writers, guys, there are white writers in most writers rooms, right?
Speaker 2: That's the default. Um, even if, even on the shows
Speaker 2: that the heyday of black shows were, and we're in
Speaker 2: the nineties and, um, Like Girlfriends is a quintessential Black show.
Speaker 2: It's one of our favorites. That was brought to television
Speaker 2: by Kelsey Grammer. The creator is Mara Brock Akil, I
Speaker 2: believe her name is. But there are white writers in
Speaker 2: that room. When I think of Interview with a Vampire
Speaker 2: from AMC, the first season is so fucking Black. The
Speaker 2: first episode. The first episode before Louis and Lestat get together,
Speaker 2: like really get together, It's so rich. It's set in
Speaker 2: New Orleans. It is set in... Guys, I want to
Speaker 2: live in that episode. I could have stayed in that
Speaker 2: episode for eight seasons. But I promise you, that was
Speaker 2: not a fully Black writer's room. When Childish Gambino, I
Speaker 2: cannot remember his real name right now, was a writer
Speaker 2: on 30 Rock that did not make 30 Rock a
Speaker 2: Black show... 30 Rock is obviously not a Black show.
Speaker 2: Him being Black in there didn't make it so any
Speaker 2: more than white writers writing That's So Raven made it
Speaker 2: not a Black show. That's So Raven was a Black show.
Speaker 2: And the first thing is that there were Black people
Speaker 2: in it. That right there was a political statement, a
Speaker 2: Black family. That right there made it a black show. Raven,
Speaker 2: listen to the fucking theme song. The R & B
Speaker 2: rap theme song, okay? Watch Raven Simone as Raven Baxter
Speaker 2: with her black hairstyles and her black mannerisms. Listen, blackness
Speaker 2: isn't a monolith, okay? It's just not. We often spend
Speaker 2: too much time arguing amongst each other about whether or
Speaker 2: not Blackness is... Who's invited to the cookout, right? That's
Speaker 2: what we talk about all the time. But blackness in
Speaker 2: suburbs exists. Not everybody had to get it out the bud.
Speaker 2: Blurreds exist. Black nerds exist. Like, it's not a monolith.
Speaker 2: But there are certain things that are steeped deep in
Speaker 2: black culture. And a lot of the things that Raven
Speaker 2: Baxter did were black as fuck. Okay? Okay? Don't forget
Speaker 2: that fucking episode where she doesn't get the job. It's
Speaker 2: like around Black History Month. She doesn't get the job
Speaker 2: because she's Black. Raven Baxter was Black. Raven Simone has
Speaker 2: low racial esteem. I think some people say racial self-esteem,
Speaker 2: but low racial esteem, okay? She is not confident in
Speaker 2: her racial identity and does not feel a lot of
Speaker 2: esteem for her racial identity. I'm willing to give give
Speaker 2: her a lot of grace. I used to not be
Speaker 2: able to give grace to people like Doja Cat and
Speaker 2: Raven Simone. And it's only in the last maybe six
Speaker 2: or seven years that I have really come to terms
Speaker 2: with the privilege that I experienced being as a Black
Speaker 2: and also raising my children in this white ass, well,
Speaker 2: it's not that white, it's Black, but in this very
Speaker 2: particular suburb and not all of my children are Black.
Speaker 2: It's only in the last few years I've been like, okay,
Speaker 2: I am immensely privileged that I grew up in a
Speaker 2: black ass family. I grew up as a black little
Speaker 2: girl in a black ass family in black areas with
Speaker 2: black role models and the people around me were black
Speaker 2: and the things I watched on TV were black and
Speaker 2: my experiences were black and I had black holidays and
Speaker 2: black culture and black movies and black TV. And at
Speaker 2: no point was it ever in question who I was
Speaker 2: in that way. And whether it was good or not. Right?
Speaker 2: That is a type of privilege. Right? And so... I
Speaker 2: used to not have a lot of grace. But I
Speaker 2: do have a lot of grace now. And I especially...
Speaker 2: Doja Cat's another thing. But when I think about... Raven.
Speaker 2: And I think about... Raven was a child star. She
Speaker 2: was on the Cosby Show when she was three years old. She...
Speaker 2: all the child star shit okay has their parents as
Speaker 2: their handlers and all these other things Raven was Raven's
Speaker 2: body was a topic of conversation a topic of like
Speaker 2: they used to put her in like Lane Bryant clothes
Speaker 2: while the other cheetah girls were like that was a
Speaker 2: whole journey Raven is queer Okay? I don't know if
Speaker 2: she's bi. I don't know if she's strictly lit. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I know she's queer. And when we
Speaker 2: talk about the coming out process as a Black woman
Speaker 2: who is queer, as someone who is a beloved child
Speaker 2: star who's coming out and being like, actually, this is
Speaker 2: who I am, is the childhood trauma that comes with
Speaker 2: being a child star, right? She talks sometimes about working non-fucking-stop. Like... Yeah.
Speaker 2: Raven's been through a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I don't want to discount those things. Raven's had a life. But...
Speaker 2: You know, I was watching a video about someone talking
Speaker 2: about Mindy Kaling. And... And... Kaling, right? Kaling. And about
Speaker 2: how when she first started making shows and being on
Speaker 2: TV and being in movies, she was... probably one of
Speaker 2: the first South Asian women we would see that did
Speaker 2: not fit a stereotype of her trope. That almost everything,
Speaker 2: every time she was doing something, it was groundbreaking. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, and at that, a dark-skinned South
Speaker 2: Asian woman at that, that at the same time, her
Speaker 2: She is not the person they want speaking about their
Speaker 2: culture and about themselves because there's a lot of shit
Speaker 2: going on with her. And that's how I feel about Raven. One,
Speaker 2: let's stop asking child actors about their opinions on things.
Speaker 2: or celebrities in general, a lot of celebrities have almost
Speaker 2: no schooling. And I bet you Raven-Symoné has zero schooling
Speaker 2: because she's been famous since three. So you don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of education. It doesn't seem like you research
Speaker 2: a lot of things. You're often talking from a point
Speaker 2: of view that is rare or experiences that are rare
Speaker 2: experience or just to you. And so I don't want
Speaker 2: Raven-Symoné representing the Black experience because that's not her experience.
Speaker 2: She can talk about her own stuff all she wants to,
Speaker 2: but in terms of letting her speak for everyone else,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good thing. I think we
Speaker 2: should just let Raven... Raven's one of those people that
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be hearing from all the time. But if
Speaker 2: we're going to have to hear from her, I don't
Speaker 2: want us... I don't want anybody taking what Raven says
Speaker 2: is gospel. Raven is someone who is... who was fine
Speaker 2: saying that her black ass on a show with a
Speaker 2: black mother, a black father, a black little brother, her
Speaker 2: mother had mini twists, her father had a place called
Speaker 2: the Chill Grill, might not have been black. Like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck, Raven? What the fuck? What was she doing
Speaker 2: with all those finger waves? What the fuck? I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that she's always wrong, but I'm saying that I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear from her anymore. And Doja Cat...
Speaker 2: maybe this is this week too doja cat did like
Speaker 2: a bunch of videos about how she was like a
Speaker 2: drug addict and that's why she was doing weird shit
Speaker 2: um like i guess she was like showing feet in
Speaker 2: uh racist chat rooms and then at some point she
Speaker 2: had like a white supremacist like shirt on that she
Speaker 2: thrifted or something and I don't know. Doja Cat's been
Speaker 2: weird for a while, and she has explained that she
Speaker 2: got low racial esteem, too. That's part of... I mean,
Speaker 2: but as far as I know, Raven-Symoné's never been on
Speaker 2: a white supremacist chat showing her feet. I did see
Speaker 2: people being like, what do you want from her? You
Speaker 2: never made a mistake! No, I never made those type
Speaker 2: of mistakes. I never made no type of mistakes like that.
Speaker 2: I don't... I actually don't care that much about that. Um, I, I,
Speaker 2: I think what's more cute, like that doesn't, fine. That
Speaker 2: was just, okay. Okay. Uh, haven't you ever thrifted anything?
Speaker 2: You don't, nobody Googles everything that's on a shirt. They thrifted.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do, but okay. She's famous.
Speaker 2: That's different. And when it happened, she didn't come out
Speaker 2: and be like, I didn't know that. She didn't say that.
Speaker 2: That was like, whatever. Okay. Fine. Um, I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem with people being like, let's forgive Doja Cat. Okay.
Speaker 2: If that's what we want to do, that's what we
Speaker 2: want to do. What I find interesting, what I'm curious
Speaker 2: about is the timing of this. Doja Cat's last album
Speaker 2: didn't do very well. And Doja is like incredibly talented,
Speaker 2: you know? And really is like... I don't know why
Speaker 2: her album didn't do that. That's just what I heard.
Speaker 2: And so is that why she's on here? Does she
Speaker 2: think it's because... People are upset with her doing racist things.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I think most people don't
Speaker 2: care about you doing it. Most of your audience doesn't
Speaker 2: care about that. So I wonder why this is happening, right?
Speaker 2: Did someone tell her that she needed to come out
Speaker 2: and say stuff like this? I'm not sure. I mean,
Speaker 2: people do all kinds of shit when they're on drugs. Like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I guess the question is, what's
Speaker 2: she going to do next, right? I don't know. But
Speaker 2: it used to be a time where I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I'd really be looking down on someone like Doja who
Speaker 2: had spent most of her life being the only Black
Speaker 2: person in her neighborhood, disconnected from her Black side of
Speaker 2: her family, and just being phenotypically Black, but also having
Speaker 2: no access to Black culture and Black community. Yeah, there
Speaker 2: was a time when I'd be like, well, that's your fault.
Speaker 2: You're grown now. Go get some Black community. But I
Speaker 2: don't feel that way anymore. I do understand That's difficult.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. And this is why I don't
Speaker 2: do drugs, because I don't want to be showing my
Speaker 2: feet in no racist chat rooms. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be doing that. I don't know. As far as Raven's concerned,
Speaker 2: it's okay for her to be quiet. It's okay for
Speaker 2: us not to hang on every word she says. She's
Speaker 2: talking about her own experience, which is rarefied. That's not
Speaker 2: the experience that most of us have had. And also...
Speaker 2: she has low racial esteem. So like, I just, she
Speaker 2: is beloved by the black community. It doesn't mean she
Speaker 2: speaks for the black community. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about one last thing. And this
Speaker 2: happened right before I was going to record. So I
Speaker 2: had to stop and like regroup. So Phaedra and CT
Speaker 2: are a thing. Who is CT? If you don't know
Speaker 2: who Phaedra is, I don't even know why you're listening
Speaker 2: to this, but who is CT? CT is, I forget
Speaker 2: his name. Um, he appeared on the real world. Uh,
Speaker 2: he was a guy from Boston who liked to fight
Speaker 2: a lot. Then he started going on challenges. He was cute. Okay.
Speaker 2: He was cute. Everybody had a thing for CT. He
Speaker 2: was big and cute and, and everyone thought they could
Speaker 2: fix them. He used to get drunk and fight people
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, I can fix them. We all
Speaker 2: said that. But then he started going on the challenges
Speaker 2: and he met a woman named Diem and Diem. I
Speaker 2: don't remember a lot about Diem before she got cancer,
Speaker 2: but she was like a blonde party-ish girl. I don't
Speaker 2: even remember, like, was she on the season of Real World?
Speaker 2: But they started going on challenges. CT and Diem met
Speaker 2: each other and had a relationship that was on and
Speaker 2: off because CT, something wrong with CT. And they just
Speaker 2: weren't really that made for each other. But then she
Speaker 2: got cancer and then they really got back on. And
Speaker 2: that became a love story of an early aughts love
Speaker 2: story is what it was. And when she got cancer
Speaker 2: and she had to shave her head and CT total,
Speaker 2: she was like, we followed their relationship, which was very romantic,
Speaker 2: although not practical. And they were never going to end
Speaker 2: up together. Okay. DM dies. Like that, that challenge where
Speaker 2: she's wearing a wig all the time and she's supposed
Speaker 2: to do something. She needs to take the wig off. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I feel like this was set up by protection. Like
Speaker 2: this was not organic. And they're like, like she takes
Speaker 2: the wig off and you see her short and her
Speaker 2: hair is dark. Her hair is dark since like it's
Speaker 2: growing back. And like, I don't know. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: CT and DM. Like, I don't have time to sit
Speaker 2: here and explain this to you. Like, go look it up.
Speaker 2: And she died. they weren't together when she died. I
Speaker 2: think the reasons were him. And that has put, CT
Speaker 2: used to be a hot, broken bird who was in
Speaker 2: love with a cancer girl and we watched it and
Speaker 2: that is what makes CT, cemented CT's place in pop history.
Speaker 2: In pop culture, excuse me. CT also has a baby
Speaker 2: with one of the twins from Bad Girls Club. I
Speaker 2: forget their last names, but the ones that were eating
Speaker 2: Chipotle and bleeding at the same time, though, she's got
Speaker 2: a baby one of her. People were always like, why
Speaker 2: would you have a baby? People really place CT up
Speaker 2: on a pedestal. I am fine finding someone sexy and
Speaker 2: then later on being like, I don't know, they're kind
Speaker 2: of a dick. They're not that great. But I know
Speaker 2: a lot of you are in love with men, white men,
Speaker 2: and that's fine too. Who among us hasn't been in
Speaker 2: love with a mid-white man? I talked about this a
Speaker 2: lot when I talked about traitors. CT was on traitors.
Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, he was on traitors with Phaedra.
Speaker 2: Phaedra did very well on traitors. I had such a
Speaker 2: good time with her on there. It is part of
Speaker 2: Phaedra's redemption, right? I've always told you Phaedra's not a
Speaker 2: good person, but she's fun. And sometimes that's more important, okay? Okay.
Speaker 2: And so people really loved her on Traitors. And I
Speaker 2: told you the reason they really loved her on Traitors
Speaker 2: is because she is doing the things she normally does,
Speaker 2: but she's having fun doing it. The scheming, the lying,
Speaker 2: those are things Phaedra is really good at. But she
Speaker 2: was having a good time and we were all having
Speaker 2: a good time watching her. CT wins that season with Rochelle. Maybe. Maybe.
Speaker 2: That's the season one where MJ's really mad and blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever.
Speaker 2: I didn't love that win either. And I did. I
Speaker 2: hate it when Rob won. Y'all, again, y'all love a
Speaker 2: mid-white man. Y'all love him. Y'all love them. You know,
Speaker 2: we all have our cross to bear. We all have
Speaker 2: our things that we have to deal with. And and
Speaker 2: that's yours, but okay. So it came out, Phaedra said
Speaker 2: on a radio show of some sort that she and
Speaker 2: CT are dating and they're going to the Emmys together.
Speaker 2: Now people are shocked. I'm not, I'm not, I do
Speaker 2: not know what esteem you guys hold CT. Uh, his
Speaker 2: name is CT Tanbrello or something like that. Uh, is
Speaker 2: how old, how old is this man? I think he
Speaker 2: and Phaedra are about the same age. I would be
Speaker 2: very shocked. He's 46. Okay. So I think Phaedra might
Speaker 2: be a little older than that. Phaedra Parks age. She's 52.
Speaker 2: They are not. She is not that much older than him.
Speaker 2: I knew she was going to be older because, uh,
Speaker 2: she used to defend Bobby Brown when he would go
Speaker 2: to jail all the time. So But they're about six
Speaker 2: years difference, guys. That's not a big difference. I am
Speaker 2: not shocked by this. And I think people are like,
Speaker 2: why would CT want Phaedra? I think that is the question.
Speaker 2: And the reason he wants Phaedra is because, one, because
Speaker 2: he wants her. That's why. That's why. I don't... What
Speaker 2: about Phaedra do you... Phaedra was fucking Shamar Moore, guys.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be clear that wasn't his girlfriend, but
Speaker 2: Phaedra was fucking Shamar Moore. Phaedra fucking Jamal Bryant. Phaedra
Speaker 2: be out here popping that puss. And people want it.
Speaker 2: What do you want from me? What is it about
Speaker 2: CT that makes you think he's too good for Phaedra?
Speaker 2: What is that? Unpack that. Now, what do I think
Speaker 2: about this? I don't give a fuck about this. I
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about this. People are really excited
Speaker 2: because they're like, maybe CT's going to be on Real
Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta. Sure. Sure. Do you think CT's too
Speaker 2: good to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta? What is it?
Speaker 2: Is it, is it, is it, do you still have
Speaker 2: that halo on him from when he was in love
Speaker 2: with a girl with cancer and short brown hair? Honest
Speaker 2: to God, DM and Tangled, you know, at the end
Speaker 2: of Tangle where they cut her hair off and it's
Speaker 2: short and brown, but she's happy. She's back to being
Speaker 2: a princess. That is it. She had long blonde hair
Speaker 2: and then she got sick and had to cut. It's
Speaker 2: just like that. People are like, she's got short brown hair,
Speaker 2: but she's still alive and we love her. That is that.
Speaker 2: Do you still have that halo from there? What is
Speaker 2: going on that it's so crazy? There are so many
Speaker 2: pictures of them. There are so many pictures of them
Speaker 2: together during Traders where they're just like holding on to
Speaker 2: each other and shit. Like....
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: This is like causing a wave on the internet. What
Speaker 2: is the wave? What is the thing? What is the ripple?
Speaker 2: What is the problem? What are we surprised about? Do
Speaker 2: you think they don't exist in the same place? Is
Speaker 2: this like when I looked at that picture of Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise at 106 and Park and who was it? And
Speaker 2: I saw a picture. Oh, it's him and Keisha Cole.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if Frankie was there. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did. Is that what's going on? Are you like,
Speaker 2: are you like, I don't even know that CT and
Speaker 2: Phaedra could be in the same timeline. Okay. It's not
Speaker 2: a case of you being like, oh, I, there's no
Speaker 2: way Phaedra could get CT. There's no way CT would
Speaker 2: be on Royal House Royal. Do you just don't see
Speaker 2: them ever crossing paths? But we did watch them cross
Speaker 2: paths on the traitors. And you know, I did see
Speaker 2: some posts where people were like, they only know CT
Speaker 2: from traders. And I was like, oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Well, well, that, well, that,
Speaker 2: that you don't really know CT, do you? That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So what do I think is going
Speaker 2: to happen? Hmm. I would love to see CT on
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'd love to see Nini come
Speaker 2: back and like, Talk to CT about something. I think
Speaker 2: that'd be fine. I mean, they're obviously going to break
Speaker 2: up because they're both not very good people. You know what?
Speaker 2: Let me take that back. Medium evil people sometimes like
Speaker 2: to be together. And sometimes it works. You know what?
Speaker 2: What's Phaedra? 52? Get pregnant, Phaedra. I also saw that
Speaker 2: Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are spending a lot of
Speaker 2: time together. What did I tell you about those two?
Speaker 2: They need to break up and get back together six
Speaker 2: more times. I want legal marriages every time they get
Speaker 2: back together too. I want them to just like, I
Speaker 2: want to be on TV like, better for getting divorced again.
Speaker 2: And people be like, this is the third time this year.
Speaker 2: I want that. I think that'd be the funniest shit ever.
Speaker 2: Then you should keep doing it. I think Phaedra and
Speaker 2: CT should get married and have a baby. You're like,
Speaker 2: she's 52. They can make it work. They can make
Speaker 2: it work. They should do that. You know, I'm usually like,
Speaker 2: do not have a baby. You don't need to have
Speaker 2: a baby at 50 in your 50s. No, go ahead
Speaker 2: and do it. What does Aiden think about CT? What
Speaker 2: does the president think about CT? Yeah, actually, at first
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't feel like I care about this.
Speaker 2: Now I really care about it. I'm into it. I'm
Speaker 2: into it. They need to get a tardy for the
Speaker 2: party type show. Let's do it. CT's accent, like he
Speaker 2: used to, he is from Boston. He used to have
Speaker 2: like a really wild Boston accent. Those twins, the black twins,
Speaker 2: they might be biracial, whatever. I think they identify. The
Speaker 2: black twins that were on Bad Girls Club, they're from
Speaker 2: Boston too. I think that's how he met her. I
Speaker 2: think he's got kids with somebody else too. He's got
Speaker 2: a couple of kids. She's got a couple of kids.
Speaker 2: Do a tardy for the party. All right. Do a
Speaker 2: little 30 minute show. where like Aiden comes downstairs and
Speaker 2: asks CT, like what's he eating for breakfast? And CT
Speaker 2: tries to explain to him, but Aiden can't understand his accent.
Speaker 2: And Phaedra comes in with her mother in a prayer
Speaker 2: cloth and Bobby Brown, like, let's do that. Let's do that.
Speaker 2: Let's find out that, that CT has a, a, a
Speaker 2: tattoo of DM on his butt or something like that. Let's, let's,
Speaker 2: you know what? Again, I was just like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't care about this. Now I care about it
Speaker 2: a lot. Let's do it. Let's, Green like that. Let's
Speaker 2: see more of this. All right, that's it. I think
Speaker 2: I've wrapped up everything I need to wrap up. I
Speaker 2: will see you guys on the next one. I don't
Speaker 2: know when that's going to be. Monday's a holiday, so
Speaker 2: there'll be a rerun on the free feed. I think
Speaker 2: the next episode that you're going to get from me
Speaker 2: is going to be a bonus episode on Thursday. So
Speaker 2: that was a great time to remind you that you
Speaker 2: should sign up for bonus episodes. They're on Patreon or
Speaker 2: on Apple subscriptions. They're five bucks a month. And you
Speaker 2: get four extra episodes. I don't ever take off my
Speaker 2: bonus episodes. If there's a holiday, I don't do the
Speaker 2: free episode that comes out on Monday. But the bonus episodes,
Speaker 2: they're always here. And you also get shows like this
Speaker 2: that you just listen to ad-free. So it's a no-brainer
Speaker 2: on this one. All right. I'll see you guys on
Speaker 2: the next one. Later.