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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys princess here and welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>five pumpkin wrap-up edition so let's go ahead and wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this week up and let's start off at the top

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<v Speaker 1>and a segment i like.

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<v Speaker 2>To call uh that man didn't die this week and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't but gloria steinem did r.i.p to gloria steinem

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know who that is she is just

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<v Speaker 2>i mean she's honestly the face of feminism from like

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<v Speaker 2>the 70s and 80s and a little bit of the nineties, but, um,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what she is. And I, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of like thoughts about Gloria. It's fine. I,

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<v Speaker 2>she does represent a style and era of feminism that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily align with. Uh, I, she definitely was

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<v Speaker 2>an intersectional. Um, and I do want to like, I

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<v Speaker 2>did feel bad for her. Like I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties where she came out and she was like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>know she'd gotten she never had children that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal um people using her reproductive decisions to

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<v Speaker 2>like highlight i don't know to decide what feminism isn't

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<v Speaker 2>isn't but i remember she got married like late in

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<v Speaker 2>life people were like how dare she she's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>hate men like i don't know man i know that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what feminism is but i do often think about

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at who she was in the 70s

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff when she really when she really became like

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<v Speaker 2>the face of feminist, is that she got to do

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<v Speaker 2>that because she was pretty. Definitely. Now, in 2026, she

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't look like that. But in the 70s, she represented

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<v Speaker 2>like that freshness, that look like you're not trying that hard,

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<v Speaker 2>the straight hair and the skinniness and kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the fresh face of this of it all. Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what she looked like. And that's why she was able

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<v Speaker 2>to be the face of feminism then. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm thinking a lot about who gets to

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<v Speaker 2>be the face of a movement and why. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like discourse to talk about Gloria, you know, RIP.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, he still didn't die, huh? Well. Anyway, the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing I want to talk about is, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Brittany and Jax. Apparently Brittany has filed for a

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<v Speaker 2>temporary restraining order against Jax, which because she made that filing,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of what's in the filing is now public.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so you remember that when you get a restraining order,

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<v Speaker 2>you go temporary first and it doesn't take a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to get that a temporary usually. You don't need a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of supporting documents or supporting evidence to get a temporary.

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<v Speaker 2>And then later on, you get a hearing for a permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>And you usually do need a lot more. You need

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<v Speaker 2>you need to show why this person can't ever be

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<v Speaker 2>around you. So I'm pretty sure she got her temporary.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the docs, what came out is that like

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<v Speaker 2>what we know, Jax is still like crazy as shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't diagnose people. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck a diagnosed Jack's with, but it's something.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very manipulative. He is... He's aggressive, yet also a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>He lies and then lives in that lie and is

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<v Speaker 2>angry at you because you won't live in that lie

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not real. He is, like, obviously a personality disorder,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll leave it at that. And so he... apparently

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<v Speaker 2>has been verbally abusive to Britney through the parenting app.

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<v Speaker 2>If you aren't on high-conflict parenting, co-parenting TikTok, which I

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<v Speaker 2>am for some reason, I get videos like this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Who the fuck am I co-parenting with? Who

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<v Speaker 2>do I have a high-conflict co-parenting relationship? No one. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what to put in your co-parenting agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what to do if she shows up to

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<v Speaker 2>the handoff with people who aren't supposed to be... Why

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck do I get so much content like that

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<v Speaker 2>served to me? It's cause I'm nosy. It's cause I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fucking nosy. But, um, um, use those parenting apps because

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<v Speaker 2>they record everything you say. You can't delete things out

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<v Speaker 2>of them. They're admissible in court. Most people are on

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<v Speaker 2>their best behavior. They're if a little petty, maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>on their best behavior, not Jax. He's being verbally abusive,

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<v Speaker 2>calling her stupid and fat and, and a whore and

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff. He's doing that in the app.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing it in front of the crew. Sometimes he also, apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is. This is, it must

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<v Speaker 2>be post breakup, but he like showed up at her

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<v Speaker 2>house and broke all her shit up. And like, she

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<v Speaker 2>has three iPhones. And if you just heard my princess

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<v Speaker 2>diaries episode, you have no reason to judge, but she

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<v Speaker 2>has like three iPhones and an iPad and a MacBook.

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<v Speaker 2>He broke them all up and like destroyed her property

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Cruise was there. And so like, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>needs to get a restraining order against him. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how that's going to work for her because when

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<v Speaker 2>the courts are involved, when family, she also filed for

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<v Speaker 2>full custody of Cruz. And I think some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand what full custody means. It doesn't necessarily mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>that Jack's parental rights don't exist anymore. Jack's parental rights

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<v Speaker 2>don't exist anymore. It means that she would have decision-making

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<v Speaker 2>powers over a lot of things and he wouldn't. it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that Cruz would never see him again. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the family court is, uh, the family court is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be centered on what's best for the child that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily always think that that's what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if Brittany had full custody, a family court to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>ban Jax from seeing Cruz would be a whole different thing. But, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't what I'm talking... Like, obviously, I believe this. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is... This is pure Jax. This is Jax. He

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<v Speaker 2>was probably high as shit when he was doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, some of the shit isn't him being high.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of that's his brain chemistry. You know? I believe

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. And we'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that she might get a permanent restraining order,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said. And I don't know how co-parenting would

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<v Speaker 2>work if she got a permanent restraining order. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>that what she's trying to get, although I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she should have already had this, is... for Jax not

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to be on her property and Jax

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<v Speaker 2>not to be able to contact her outside of parenting crews,

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<v Speaker 2>you know? So, um, so that's happening. Right. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what I've noticed is that the discourse has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>swung to like, Brittany's no, Brittany's no victim. Brittany's a liar.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany knew who she was when she, when he married her,

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<v Speaker 2>when she married him. And like, yeah, that's all true. I, I,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to, I feel like the king of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>two things can be true land, right? I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly saying that, that more than one thing can

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<v Speaker 2>be true at the same time. And it is true

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<v Speaker 2>that Britney is responsible for her own actions. Britney is

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<v Speaker 2>not an innocent. I've been telling you guys that for years.

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<v Speaker 2>People act as if Britney is stupid. Britney has no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what's going on. I don't think that's true at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think a lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are really upset with Britney right now are danny and

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<v Speaker 2>nia fans who are upset that britney doesn't like nia

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<v Speaker 2>and britney does not like nia she she doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>it straight she does not like nia um i'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure like i don't know if you if you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>danny and nia have left the valley they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be coming back which is a good decision for

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<v Speaker 2>them it's a good decision for us too i don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see them anymore not excuse me i don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see them in this iteration i would have

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<v Speaker 2>been fine with them in friends of but Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>I were them, I wouldn't be on the show either. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't control your edit on a show like that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if you guys go get a show on TLC

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<v Speaker 2>called Me and Danny 404 in Santa Clarita, you might

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<v Speaker 2>have more ability to control that. But even on that

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<v Speaker 2>type of reality show, at some point there must be

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<v Speaker 2>some conflict. So if the conflict isn't going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship, where's the conflict going to come from? These

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<v Speaker 2>shows are about conflict and resolution. It can't just be...

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's perfect. Don't look over here. That's more of an

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<v Speaker 2>influencer thing than a reality TV show. You guys probably

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<v Speaker 2>can make a billion dollars being influencers. So go do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>upset about that. People really want to be Nia. They

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<v Speaker 2>really want to be Nia. They want to be as

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<v Speaker 2>pretty as she is and as soft as she is

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to be her and therefore they want

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<v Speaker 2>to protect her. And the fact that Britney doesn't like

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<v Speaker 2>her and that Britney I would say not even forthcoming,

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<v Speaker 2>like a little underhanded, the way that she comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people are upset at Brittany

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I think there are also a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people doing a lot of victim blaming. And I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to use that word, but it is what's happening. You guys,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen to me for even a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that I'm like super serious about personal responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Personal responsibility is incredibly important to me. And I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I could just put it in a spray bottle and just, like,

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<v Speaker 2>walk around spraying it on people. Like, you get some

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<v Speaker 2>personal responsibility. You get some. You get some. You get some.

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<v Speaker 2>Take responsibility for your fucking actions. But personal responsibility is

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<v Speaker 2>just that it's personal. and it's being responsible for your

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<v Speaker 2>actions Brittany can't take responsibility for Jax being physically abusive

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<v Speaker 2>to her because those aren't her actions when we say

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<v Speaker 2>take personal responsibility that means that you are like the

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<v Speaker 2>actions that you that you take have reactions and have

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<v Speaker 2>effects and those are things you must own. Yeah. Having

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<v Speaker 2>personal responsibility is more like, Hey, I married this guy

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<v Speaker 2>cause I really want to get married. And I let my,

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes get too big. My, my eyes are bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than my stomach. And I really thought I could take

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that I shouldn't have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to take. I hit a lot of stuff. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to sit and talk about Brittany and Jax's

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<v Speaker 2>wedding season on VPR that ruined that fucking show in

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<v Speaker 2>which Brittany was determined. She was doing a Nia, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she was doing. She was determined to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's fine over here. Jax is perfect. I am perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the perfect season. And the show tried to

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<v Speaker 2>go along with it. And the rest of us were like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not, no. And it ruined VPR because no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, no matter where a storyline went, Brittany shut

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<v Speaker 2>it down if you want to talk about that and

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<v Speaker 2>the lies that were told there and the ways in

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<v Speaker 2>which she protected Jack Jax I'm willing to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that but I I am not willing to in conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about her filing a restraining order which is what she

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<v Speaker 2>should do restraining orders are pieces of paper they're not

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<v Speaker 2>literal protection but they are legal protection She needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be laying the groundwork for that. I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to protect him from hurting her because we all

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<v Speaker 2>know that people, you know, that piece of paper doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>do shit when somebody's determined to hurt you. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is what she needs to do legally. I'm not willing

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<v Speaker 2>in that conversation to be like, well, she knew who

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<v Speaker 2>he was when she married. If she did, so what?

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<v Speaker 2>Then what? She's supposed to just let him do it?

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<v Speaker 2>We're in this space right now where It's incredibly important

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<v Speaker 2>that people talk to, I'm going to say women, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everyone, but talk to women in relationships as

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<v Speaker 2>if everything, bad thing that happens in that relationship is

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<v Speaker 2>it might be it's your fault because you didn't keep

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<v Speaker 2>you and you became a lump and you did this

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<v Speaker 2>and you did that. Or it could also very well

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<v Speaker 2>be like, well, you didn't see all the signs There

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<v Speaker 2>was a sign that he was going to leave you

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<v Speaker 2>for someone else and did not pay child support. You

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't notice it. And you closed your eyes. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how people talk to people at a crossroads that need

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what to do. What they do is

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<v Speaker 2>they spend a lot of time trying to shame them

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<v Speaker 2>for where they are. And believe me, I think shame,

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist would disagree, but I think shame can be

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<v Speaker 2>a useful tool. I just don't think it's necessarily the

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<v Speaker 2>most important thing here. I actually don't want Brittany to

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<v Speaker 2>to do something. And when we think about like the, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is happening because I didn't marry a loser or

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<v Speaker 2>you should have picked better or you chose him. That

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<v Speaker 2>stuff all comes from the same bowl of soup, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all floating around the same bowl of soup. This

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<v Speaker 2>idea that whatever's going on in your relationship, it's because...

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<v Speaker 2>of the actions that you took. You chose him. You

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<v Speaker 2>should have known better. You should have seen this was

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. I, uh, people love the post men

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<v Speaker 2>doing the bare basics and be like, cause I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>marry a fucking loser because you chose well, right? Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Most people don't try to marry losers. Most

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<v Speaker 2>people try to marry the best person they possibly can

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<v Speaker 2>And most people who are losers or abusers or just

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking crazy psychos don't act like that when you

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<v Speaker 2>first meet them. Otherwise, they couldn't get what they wanted, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Most people are on their best behavior for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there might be signs, but most people do

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<v Speaker 2>not actively marry someone that's going to ruin their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this, well, I didn't marry a loser. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you chose them. Well, that's what you get. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of like when we talk about drug abuse,

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<v Speaker 2>where people will try to find out what is the secret?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the thing that led to the addiction? What

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing that this person didn't do right or

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<v Speaker 2>their mom didn't do right or whatever that made this

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<v Speaker 2>happen so that they can avoid it, so they can

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<v Speaker 2>convince themselves that they're in no danger of that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you some of these people that are on

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet crying because they are they are now single

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<v Speaker 2>moms with five children and and their ex-husband has moved

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<v Speaker 2>in with their sister and is refusing to take child support.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you there's that if I go scroll back

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<v Speaker 2>far enough, I'm seeing like posts where they're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't marry a fucking loser. Because, yeah, at that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't seem like you did. Also, people change. People change.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about, I'm talking in general, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Brittany and Jax anymore. I actually do think

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<v Speaker 2>that Brittany definitely needs to take responsibility for some choices

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<v Speaker 2>that she made, but those choices will never be, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to take responsibility because Jax is being physically

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<v Speaker 2>abusive to me. That's my fault. It's not her fault.

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<v Speaker 2>He's responsible for his own actions. I don't mind if

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<v Speaker 2>we want to sit and talk about ways in which

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<v Speaker 2>we can behave better to try to get better outcomes

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<v Speaker 2>in our lives let's talk about that but I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>here for and that's your fault that that person did

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<v Speaker 2>that to you I don't know like and also we

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<v Speaker 2>can't go back like where does Brittany knew exactly who

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<v Speaker 2>she married fit into the conversation of this man busted

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<v Speaker 2>up in my house talked to me crazy in front

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<v Speaker 2>of my son is verbally abusive broke up my shit

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared that he'll come back and do it again

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<v Speaker 2>what is Where is, in that conversation, where's there space for, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bad person when you married him. Where's, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is she supposed to do? File the restraining order

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<v Speaker 2>like she did. You don't even know if she is

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<v Speaker 2>at the courthouse being like, he was never like this ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's what's going on. I think. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm less interested in that than I am interested in

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<v Speaker 2>what happens next. And I think we should all be

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<v Speaker 2>more like that in our lives. I just don't understand. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand. It's called misogyny. I'm not in the

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<v Speaker 2>mood to hear about how at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever Jax does, it's Britney deserves because it's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever he does is not fine because Brittany married him

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd already cheated on her. We're not even talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that right now. Like, don't feel sorry for her.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to. You don't have to feel sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody. I don't feel sorry for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>But is the reason you don't feel sorry for her

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<v Speaker 2>because you feel like that by marrying Jax that she

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<v Speaker 2>gets what she fucking deserves? Forever? So if he goes

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<v Speaker 2>in there, he fucking kills her. She gets what she deserves?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>People are so fucking weird. Anyway, prayers up for Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the person that's going through it the most. Prayers

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<v Speaker 2>fucking up. What else do I want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Raven-Symoné and Kiki Palmer. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the two of them real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a twofer for them. So, uh, Keke Palmer had

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<v Speaker 2>Raven Simone and her wife, Miranda. Imagine being named Miranda

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<v Speaker 2>and people keep, and every time people say your name, they,

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<v Speaker 2>they do a little Steve voice from Sex and the City. Miranda.

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<v Speaker 2>She's married to a woman named Miranda. She's a white lady. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is important. Um, Raven and Miranda are often, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a podcast together. Um, Raven is a child star,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, very important to the Black community, very

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<v Speaker 2>beloved by the Black community. And Miranda is, her daddy

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<v Speaker 2>invented like toothpicks or something, something like that. She's got money.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got more money than Raven does. And they're often

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<v Speaker 2>seen online. And Miranda is, people are always excited to

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<v Speaker 2>see Raven and not Miranda. And Miranda often spends a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time sunning Raven. in a way that people

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<v Speaker 2>take offense to. Mostly, I didn't know who Raven was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not a fan of Raven. I didn't watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Cheetah Girls or Daxo Raven. I'd never seen an

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<v Speaker 2>episode of The Cosby Show or Hanging with Mr. Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>or Xenon or any... I never turned on Disney Channel

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<v Speaker 2>ever because the way that Disney Channel was is that

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<v Speaker 2>if you did, then you would see the stars because

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<v Speaker 2>they would be in the interstitials. They'd be everywhere. But

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<v Speaker 2>she claims... Well, she used to claim that she never

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<v Speaker 2>even heard of Raven. And now she claims, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't watching That's So Raven. And people really beat

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<v Speaker 2>up on her before last time. So I think they

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<v Speaker 2>were on Kiki's Podcast the last time they said that.

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<v Speaker 2>They came back to Kiki's Podcast. Before I start talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that, let me talk about fucking Kiki Palmer. So

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<v Speaker 2>Kiki Palmer recently, apparently, was at Quincy... Is his last

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<v Speaker 2>name Combs? I don't know his last name. Quincy's birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Diddy's son. He's not Diddy's... He's not Diddy's

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<v Speaker 2>biological son. Diddy has six children he's got Chase which

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<v Speaker 2>is a little girl that was like had like two

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<v Speaker 2>she was like born like six months after the twin

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<v Speaker 2>girls he had with um Kim Porter who uh he

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<v Speaker 2>murdered I have no proof of that I just say

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<v Speaker 2>that because what's he gonna fucking do about it um

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got those. Then he's got a son named

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<v Speaker 2>Christian who looks just like him. He's got a son

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<v Speaker 2>named Justin who I'll call him lighter. He's lighter than Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>And then his oldest is Quincy. And Quincy is not

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<v Speaker 2>biologically his. Quincy is the son of Ken Porter and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be sure. I don't have time to explain to

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<v Speaker 2>you who fucking I'll be sure is. You don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who that is unless you're old and black. Albie Shore

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<v Speaker 2>is black famous and not just black famous, old black famous, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason for you to know who Albie Shore is,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you really, really want to Google it, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But that is Kim's son with Albie Shore. But all

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<v Speaker 2>his life, people, Diddy has claimed him, even when he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't with Kim. Because remember, there's like a big jump

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<v Speaker 2>between Christian and the girls, right? him and Kim were

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<v Speaker 2>on and off, on and off. Um, so, but he's all,

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<v Speaker 2>but Diddy's always claimed him. His name is Quincy. It might,

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<v Speaker 2>his last name might be Combs. He was in Star, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>He was the dude in the wheelchair in Star, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>That's Quincy. Now, okay. Kiki was at Quincy's birthday party

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<v Speaker 2>taking a picture with him. And a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, so you're partying with Diddy now. Quincy's

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<v Speaker 2>not Diddy. But I do want to remind you that

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<v Speaker 2>when the court case was going on and stuff, those

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<v Speaker 2>kids were at the courthouse supporting him. I wasn't surprised

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<v Speaker 2>by that. And I also wasn't willing to draw a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of conclusions from that because they could have been

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<v Speaker 2>there for any number of reasons. They could have been

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<v Speaker 2>there because they thought he was innocent. They could have

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<v Speaker 2>been there because they didn't think he was innocent, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's their father. They could have been there because they

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<v Speaker 2>know he's not innocent because they participated and they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing their own shit. They could have been there because

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<v Speaker 2>the lawyer said that you need to come here and

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<v Speaker 2>their father said, if you don't come here, there ain't

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<v Speaker 2>going to be no money for, I hope you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that you're going to be staying in that house.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not paying for this car. Like it could have

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<v Speaker 2>been a leverage. It could have been a million fucking

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<v Speaker 2>reasons they was there. I was never surprised, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also didn't draw that many conclusions because there's a spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>of things that could be happening here. Whatever. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>not Diddy. Okay? I actually don't know if he was participating.

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<v Speaker 2>He could be. He could have been. He could have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody locked up in his basement right now. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know this man. But the reason people are like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is Kiki doing there? Because I don't know where this

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<v Speaker 2>birthday party is held. Maybe it was in the house

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<v Speaker 2>with the freak-offs. I don't fucking know. Maybe Kiki was

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<v Speaker 2>at the fucking freak-offs. Nobody, but people were like, side-eyeing her.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to remind you something about Keke Palmer. She

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<v Speaker 2>is also beloved by the Black community. She is ours, right?

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<v Speaker 2>She is a Jack, she's a Jill of all trade,

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<v Speaker 2>master of none. There's a messiness about her career that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it feels like she can do anything. Keke,

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<v Speaker 2>keep a job. Palmer can do anything. But also, are

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<v Speaker 2>you supposed to do anything? Like, what is your main thing?

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<v Speaker 2>But fine, fine, fine. Keke makes questionable judgments. Do I

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<v Speaker 2>find Kiki Parma funny? Yes, I fucking do. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she is so fucking funny. During the... When Wicked was

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<v Speaker 2>doing on their press... And Kiki was in some movie

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<v Speaker 2>with Issa Rae. Maybe. No, it was an Issa Rae

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<v Speaker 2>movie that Kiki was in with SZA. And they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing press for it. And Kiki lets out this part

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<v Speaker 2>of Defying Gravity. Like... And says, that is a Negro

409
00:24:23.509 --> 00:24:26.309
<v Speaker 2>spiritual and it's funny as shit. And she was running

410
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<v Speaker 2>around the entire press run of Wicked doing Cynthia's part.

411
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, she wins at the BET Awards, which Cynthia,

412
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<v Speaker 2>why are you there? Didn't you have a lot of

413
00:24:36.809 --> 00:24:40.140
<v Speaker 2>very stern things to say about Black American women? Like,

414
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<v Speaker 2>people don't forget that type of shit. Get the fuck

415
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<v Speaker 2>out of there. The BET Awards is ours. Anyway, she

416
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<v Speaker 2>was there and she lost to Kiki. Kiki gets up

417
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<v Speaker 2>on the stage and goes, I didn't think I was

418
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<v Speaker 2>going to win this. And points at Cynthia Reeve and goes, well,

419
00:24:55.279 --> 00:25:00.460
<v Speaker 2>that's the whole fucking thing. Kiki is funny as shit.

420
00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:03.660
<v Speaker 2>All right. She is funny. If you look at her

421
00:25:04.009 --> 00:25:07.529
<v Speaker 2>compilations on like Twitter, like edits of her. Or they're like,

422
00:25:07.750 --> 00:25:12.099
<v Speaker 2>what's your favorite cuss word? She's like, motherfucker. She is funny.

423
00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Speaker 2>But being funny does not also mean you have good morals.

424
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<v Speaker 2>You can make me chuckle and smile when I see

425
00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:22.759
<v Speaker 2>you and also have really bad morals. And I want

426
00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to be clear about Kiki Palmer. I don't think she's

427
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>doing any freak offs, okay? I'm not saying that. But

428
00:25:28.500 --> 00:25:32.980
<v Speaker 2>Kiki Palmer, at least once a business quarter, does some

429
00:25:33.069 --> 00:25:36.089
<v Speaker 2>shit that makes me side eye her. At this point,

430
00:25:37.299 --> 00:25:40.660
<v Speaker 2>like when she wanted Jonathan Majors on her podcast. Why? Why?

431
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Why is it necessary for you to have him on?

432
00:25:44.009 --> 00:25:49.369
<v Speaker 2>Kiki is always almost about to get canceled. If you

433
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<v Speaker 2>were not on Twitter, you do not remember that Kiki

434
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<v Speaker 2>would almost get canceled. Like I said, once a business quarter.

435
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<v Speaker 2>If it came out that Kiki was ghostwriting Chris Brown's memoir,

436
00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:03.069
<v Speaker 2>I would not be that surprised. And that's why I

437
00:26:03.089 --> 00:26:05.660
<v Speaker 2>wasn't surprised to see her cheesing with Quincy And I

438
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't surprised, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out

439
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.099
<v Speaker 2>that she was a supporter of Diddy. And I also,

440
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.420
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised, well, I'd be a smidge surprised

441
00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:17.059
<v Speaker 2>if Kiki showed up at the White House next week.

442
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:25.710
<v Speaker 2>I'd only be a smidge because Kiki's morals are suspect, okay? Anyway,

443
00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:27.910
<v Speaker 2>but that's part of what everyone's been talking about this

444
00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>week is those... But Kiki, Kiki, I don't know, she...

445
00:26:38.269 --> 00:26:40.069
<v Speaker 2>What do we do about it, Kiki? That's that's how

446
00:26:40.109 --> 00:26:42.609
<v Speaker 2>I feel about that. But anyway, one thing she did

447
00:26:42.650 --> 00:26:45.069
<v Speaker 2>do right. She had Raven and Miranda back on her

448
00:26:46.289 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 2>show and she really did like hold Miranda's feet to

449
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.019
<v Speaker 2>the fire because Miranda was like, oh, I'm not mad

450
00:26:51.059 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 2>at you or anything. But, you know, that was where

451
00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:54.980
<v Speaker 2>all the hate came from is when we came. I

452
00:26:55.019 --> 00:26:57.779
<v Speaker 2>came on here and I said I didn't watch Raven's

453
00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:01.450
<v Speaker 2>That's So Raven. By the way, I'm not mad at

454
00:27:01.470 --> 00:27:03.009
<v Speaker 2>you or anything. Good, because you don't have no reason

455
00:27:03.029 --> 00:27:04.730
<v Speaker 2>to be mad at me for it. You're the one

456
00:27:04.769 --> 00:27:07.210
<v Speaker 2>that said this shit. And Kiki was like, yeah, but

457
00:27:07.230 --> 00:27:09.250
<v Speaker 2>you're saying that you didn't turn on Disney Channel in

458
00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:15.490
<v Speaker 2>1999 or 2001? No, I didn't. There is such a

459
00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 2>thing as black famous, where somebody is known only to

460
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.740
<v Speaker 2>black people or mostly known to black people. Beyonce for

461
00:27:22.900 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 2>a long time was black famous and then became white famous,

462
00:27:27.339 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>famously with the single lady shit. And then went back

463
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.309
<v Speaker 2>to being, but I'm still black. I'm still black. I'll

464
00:27:33.329 --> 00:27:36.390
<v Speaker 2>be sure it's black famous. Old black famous. Black famous

465
00:27:36.410 --> 00:27:41.490
<v Speaker 2>to old people. Keke Palmer is someone that, although she's

466
00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:44.529
<v Speaker 2>known by many different types of people, she is black famous.

467
00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Raven is beloved by black people. But Raven was not

468
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.019
<v Speaker 2>just seen by, Raven's on the Disney channel. Like I said,

469
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Raven is a fucking cheetah girl, okay? Like, get the

470
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:04.140
<v Speaker 2>fuck out of here. Um, I don't, I do believe, well,

471
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:07.859
<v Speaker 2>now it's very easy for us to be in pockets

472
00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:10.940
<v Speaker 2>of pop culture and never, the way the algorithm treats

473
00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>us is it shows us what we want to see.

474
00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>And so there's whole, there's always shit I don't even

475
00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:17.369
<v Speaker 2>fucking know. Even now, like if you're listening to this

476
00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:20.230
<v Speaker 2>wrap up, you might be like, Princess never talks about the,

477
00:28:20.710 --> 00:28:23.710
<v Speaker 2>the pop culture happenings that I see all the time. Yeah.

478
00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:28.630
<v Speaker 2>Our algorithms are completely different. But in the time she's

479
00:28:28.670 --> 00:28:32.970
<v Speaker 2>talking about, we had more of a monoculture in that

480
00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 2>we saw more things than just what we were interested in.

481
00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:42.730
<v Speaker 2>I only, famously, famously, I only found out there was

482
00:28:42.809 --> 00:28:46.910
<v Speaker 2>more there were three Jonas Brothers, actually four, okay? Four

483
00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:48.829
<v Speaker 2>Jonas Brothers. I only found out a couple of years ago.

484
00:28:49.210 --> 00:28:50.990
<v Speaker 2>I honestly thought it was the tall one and the

485
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>little one. That's what, I didn't know there was a

486
00:28:53.220 --> 00:28:54.819
<v Speaker 2>middle one and then one that was off the screen.

487
00:28:55.099 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>But I, because I'm not the target audience, I'm too

488
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.420
<v Speaker 2>fucking old for it. But I did know the Jonas

489
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Brothers existed. I did not, I obviously could not be

490
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>watching Hannah Montana. I'm way too old for that. But

491
00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:09.819
<v Speaker 2>I knew a Hannah Montana existed and I knew kind

492
00:29:09.859 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>of the premise of the show and I knew who

493
00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Miley Cyrus was. Pretending like I did not know who

494
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.849
<v Speaker 2>Miley Cyrus was is crazy. She was very famous. And

495
00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:23.849
<v Speaker 2>that's how I feel about Miranda talking about Raven. But

496
00:29:23.990 --> 00:29:28.890
<v Speaker 2>I actually... I don't want to talk about that particularly.

497
00:29:28.990 --> 00:29:31.109
<v Speaker 2>I've told you guys before that Raven is where she

498
00:29:31.150 --> 00:29:33.450
<v Speaker 2>wants to be. Their relationship is weird. I'm going to

499
00:29:33.470 --> 00:29:35.990
<v Speaker 2>be honest. Their relationship is fucking weird. I'm not sure

500
00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:37.769
<v Speaker 2>what they see in each other. They don't have a

501
00:29:37.789 --> 00:29:40.420
<v Speaker 2>lot of sexual chemistry. And they talk... as if they

502
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of sexual chemistry behind the scenes either.

503
00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:48.859
<v Speaker 2>But a marriage is not made on sexual chemistry and

504
00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:50.779
<v Speaker 2>if the people in the marriage are happy with that,

505
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.829
<v Speaker 2>then that's all that matters. It's a partnership in a

506
00:29:53.869 --> 00:29:57.250
<v Speaker 2>lot of ways and sometimes this partnership may not be

507
00:29:57.910 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>like You know, it might not be about who has

508
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.609
<v Speaker 2>sexual chemistry and not. I just find that, like, I

509
00:30:06.650 --> 00:30:08.529
<v Speaker 2>don't see it with those two. But they see it,

510
00:30:08.529 --> 00:30:11.089
<v Speaker 2>and that's all that matters. But I've said before, Raven's

511
00:30:11.109 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>right where she wants to be. That's where she wants

512
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to be. She likes that. And I don't know why

513
00:30:18.099 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>she likes it, but she likes it. It's hard to

514
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>watch someone who's so beloved and who's had so many,

515
00:30:24.380 --> 00:30:27.769
<v Speaker 2>her fingerprints in Black pop culture... kind of be like

516
00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:32.250
<v Speaker 2>diminished by someone but yeah she like it so what

517
00:30:32.269 --> 00:30:33.670
<v Speaker 2>the fuck am I supposed to do that's what she

518
00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:35.819
<v Speaker 2>want to be what are y'all talking about save Raven

519
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Raven don't want to be saved don't save her she

520
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be saved she don't want to be

521
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking saved leave her right there but that's actually not

522
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the main thing I want to talk about I want

523
00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to talk about I don't know if she did this

524
00:30:48.660 --> 00:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>on Kiki's podcast or if she was on something else

525
00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:57.220
<v Speaker 2>but um Raven was talking about Howie made the assumption

526
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.109
<v Speaker 2>that Raven Baxter, who is the character on That's So Raven,

527
00:31:00.150 --> 00:31:03.369
<v Speaker 2>was black. Close your eyes. She could have been green.

528
00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:08.910
<v Speaker 2>Raven is known for saying shit like this, okay? Remember

529
00:31:08.950 --> 00:31:12.339
<v Speaker 2>when she said that she's not African American, she's just American?

530
00:31:12.990 --> 00:31:14.940
<v Speaker 2>And although I don't think that was actually that bad.

531
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:16.900
<v Speaker 2>People took that really badly. Remember she said she's from

532
00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:21.380
<v Speaker 2>every continent on the planet or something like that? I

533
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.650
<v Speaker 2>do think she doesn't say things... I don't think she's

534
00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>good at the way she words things. When she said

535
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>she was an African American, that was years and years ago.

536
00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Most black people in America do not necessarily identify with

537
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:50.420
<v Speaker 2>a country or an area in Africa because most black

538
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Americans are from here. When we say African American, when

539
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:59.009
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of somebody who is either two, three generations

540
00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:04.630
<v Speaker 2>here in America from an African immigrant. And Black Americans

541
00:32:05.710 --> 00:32:10.029
<v Speaker 2>are not immigrants, okay? They were stolen. They were sold

542
00:32:10.069 --> 00:32:13.970
<v Speaker 2>and stolen. And so that's why it's so offensive when

543
00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:16.369
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, you don't know Black Americans from

544
00:32:16.390 --> 00:32:19.170
<v Speaker 2>where they're from. No, we're from here. We're Americans. We're

545
00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:23.150
<v Speaker 2>from here. My mother's mother's mother's mother's mother from here

546
00:32:23.779 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 2>was born on this soil. I'm from here. And that

547
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.180
<v Speaker 2>is a conversation that is worth having and that it

548
00:32:32.339 --> 00:32:34.619
<v Speaker 2>feels like that's part of what Raven was trying to say,

549
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>but not that. I don't know why she was on

550
00:32:35.980 --> 00:32:38.579
<v Speaker 2>The View. Honestly, I don't think we should be listening

551
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.019
<v Speaker 2>to Raven talk that much at all, and I'll get

552
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to that. When Raven said.

553
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Why did you think that's so Raven? First of all,

554
00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>she called it TSR. That's so Raven. Why did you

555
00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:53.740
<v Speaker 2>think that was a black show? And she, and I

556
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.900
<v Speaker 2>do think she mentioned something about how they're being right.

557
00:32:56.059 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>White writers, guys, there are white writers in most writers rooms, right?

558
00:33:03.420 --> 00:33:07.900
<v Speaker 2>That's the default. Um, even if, even on the shows

559
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:14.700
<v Speaker 2>that the heyday of black shows were, and we're in

560
00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:19.990
<v Speaker 2>the nineties and, um, Like Girlfriends is a quintessential Black show.

561
00:33:20.170 --> 00:33:26.220
<v Speaker 2>It's one of our favorites. That was brought to television

562
00:33:26.259 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>by Kelsey Grammer. The creator is Mara Brock Akil, I

563
00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 2>believe her name is. But there are white writers in

564
00:33:31.849 --> 00:33:36.289
<v Speaker 2>that room. When I think of Interview with a Vampire

565
00:33:36.309 --> 00:33:40.369
<v Speaker 2>from AMC, the first season is so fucking Black. The

566
00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:44.910
<v Speaker 2>first episode. The first episode before Louis and Lestat get together,

567
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.460
<v Speaker 2>like really get together, It's so rich. It's set in

568
00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans. It is set in... Guys, I want to

569
00:33:56.380 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 2>live in that episode. I could have stayed in that

570
00:33:59.619 --> 00:34:02.859
<v Speaker 2>episode for eight seasons. But I promise you, that was

571
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:09.789
<v Speaker 2>not a fully Black writer's room. When Childish Gambino, I

572
00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:12.949
<v Speaker 2>cannot remember his real name right now, was a writer

573
00:34:13.010 --> 00:34:15.510
<v Speaker 2>on 30 Rock that did not make 30 Rock a

574
00:34:15.650 --> 00:34:19.690
<v Speaker 2>Black show... 30 Rock is obviously not a Black show.

575
00:34:20.730 --> 00:34:23.789
<v Speaker 2>Him being Black in there didn't make it so any

576
00:34:23.889 --> 00:34:31.500
<v Speaker 2>more than white writers writing That's So Raven made it

577
00:34:31.699 --> 00:34:34.619
<v Speaker 2>not a Black show. That's So Raven was a Black show.

578
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.860
<v Speaker 2>And the first thing is that there were Black people

579
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:42.489
<v Speaker 2>in it. That right there was a political statement, a

580
00:34:42.570 --> 00:34:49.699
<v Speaker 2>Black family. That right there made it a black show. Raven,

581
00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:55.650
<v Speaker 2>listen to the fucking theme song. The R & B

582
00:34:56.030 --> 00:35:01.530
<v Speaker 2>rap theme song, okay? Watch Raven Simone as Raven Baxter

583
00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:07.769
<v Speaker 2>with her black hairstyles and her black mannerisms. Listen, blackness

584
00:35:07.809 --> 00:35:12.409
<v Speaker 2>isn't a monolith, okay? It's just not. We often spend

585
00:35:12.449 --> 00:35:16.179
<v Speaker 2>too much time arguing amongst each other about whether or

586
00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:21.929
<v Speaker 2>not Blackness is... Who's invited to the cookout, right? That's

587
00:35:21.969 --> 00:35:25.949
<v Speaker 2>what we talk about all the time. But blackness in

588
00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:28.530
<v Speaker 2>suburbs exists. Not everybody had to get it out the bud.

589
00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:34.309
<v Speaker 2>Blurreds exist. Black nerds exist. Like, it's not a monolith.

590
00:35:35.989 --> 00:35:39.230
<v Speaker 2>But there are certain things that are steeped deep in

591
00:35:39.289 --> 00:35:41.869
<v Speaker 2>black culture. And a lot of the things that Raven

592
00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:46.179
<v Speaker 2>Baxter did were black as fuck. Okay? Okay? Don't forget

593
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>that fucking episode where she doesn't get the job. It's

594
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>like around Black History Month. She doesn't get the job

595
00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:58.780
<v Speaker 2>because she's Black. Raven Baxter was Black. Raven Simone has

596
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.460
<v Speaker 2>low racial esteem. I think some people say racial self-esteem,

597
00:36:03.059 --> 00:36:07.980
<v Speaker 2>but low racial esteem, okay? She is not confident in

598
00:36:08.019 --> 00:36:10.940
<v Speaker 2>her racial identity and does not feel a lot of

599
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.019
<v Speaker 2>esteem for her racial identity. I'm willing to give give

600
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.599
<v Speaker 2>her a lot of grace. I used to not be

601
00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 2>able to give grace to people like Doja Cat and

602
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Raven Simone. And it's only in the last maybe six

603
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.050
<v Speaker 2>or seven years that I have really come to terms

604
00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:30.789
<v Speaker 2>with the privilege that I experienced being as a Black

605
00:36:30.909 --> 00:36:35.110
<v Speaker 2>and also raising my children in this white ass, well,

606
00:36:35.150 --> 00:36:37.780
<v Speaker 2>it's not that white, it's Black, but in this very

607
00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>particular suburb and not all of my children are Black.

608
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 2>It's only in the last few years I've been like, okay,

609
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.610
<v Speaker 2>I am immensely privileged that I grew up in a

610
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.829
<v Speaker 2>black ass family. I grew up as a black little

611
00:36:48.869 --> 00:36:52.469
<v Speaker 2>girl in a black ass family in black areas with

612
00:36:52.909 --> 00:36:55.489
<v Speaker 2>black role models and the people around me were black

613
00:36:55.510 --> 00:36:57.789
<v Speaker 2>and the things I watched on TV were black and

614
00:36:57.829 --> 00:37:01.460
<v Speaker 2>my experiences were black and I had black holidays and

615
00:37:01.579 --> 00:37:05.300
<v Speaker 2>black culture and black movies and black TV. And at

616
00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:09.940
<v Speaker 2>no point was it ever in question who I was

617
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>in that way. And whether it was good or not. Right?

618
00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:21.460
<v Speaker 2>That is a type of privilege. Right? And so... I

619
00:37:23.989 --> 00:37:25.329
<v Speaker 2>used to not have a lot of grace. But I

620
00:37:25.389 --> 00:37:27.610
<v Speaker 2>do have a lot of grace now. And I especially...

621
00:37:27.190 --> 00:37:32.389
<v Speaker 2>Doja Cat's another thing. But when I think about... Raven.

622
00:37:32.429 --> 00:37:35.250
<v Speaker 2>And I think about... Raven was a child star. She

623
00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:38.500
<v Speaker 2>was on the Cosby Show when she was three years old. She...

624
00:37:39.289 --> 00:37:41.809
<v Speaker 2>all the child star shit okay has their parents as

625
00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:47.829
<v Speaker 2>their handlers and all these other things Raven was Raven's

626
00:37:47.989 --> 00:37:54.949
<v Speaker 2>body was a topic of conversation a topic of like

627
00:37:54.989 --> 00:37:58.900
<v Speaker 2>they used to put her in like Lane Bryant clothes

628
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>while the other cheetah girls were like that was a

629
00:38:02.940 --> 00:38:06.809
<v Speaker 2>whole journey Raven is queer Okay? I don't know if

630
00:38:06.829 --> 00:38:08.289
<v Speaker 2>she's bi. I don't know if she's strictly lit. I

631
00:38:08.329 --> 00:38:10.309
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I know she's queer. And when we

632
00:38:10.369 --> 00:38:15.889
<v Speaker 2>talk about the coming out process as a Black woman

633
00:38:15.929 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 2>who is queer, as someone who is a beloved child

634
00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>star who's coming out and being like, actually, this is

635
00:38:23.179 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>who I am, is the childhood trauma that comes with

636
00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:37.860
<v Speaker 2>being a child star, right? She talks sometimes about working non-fucking-stop. Like... Yeah.

637
00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:39.989
<v Speaker 2>Raven's been through a lot of things.

638
00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:40.670
<v Speaker 1>And.

639
00:38:40.690 --> 00:38:50.210
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to discount those things. Raven's had a life. But...

640
00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:55.849
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was watching a video about someone talking

641
00:38:55.869 --> 00:39:01.219
<v Speaker 2>about Mindy Kaling. And... And... Kaling, right? Kaling. And about

642
00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:04.300
<v Speaker 2>how when she first started making shows and being on

643
00:39:04.340 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>TV and being in movies, she was... probably one of

644
00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:11.820
<v Speaker 2>the first South Asian women we would see that did

645
00:39:11.860 --> 00:39:15.780
<v Speaker 2>not fit a stereotype of her trope. That almost everything,

646
00:39:16.019 --> 00:39:19.260
<v Speaker 2>every time she was doing something, it was groundbreaking. But

647
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.710
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, and at that, a dark-skinned South

648
00:39:23.789 --> 00:39:26.449
<v Speaker 2>Asian woman at that, that at the same time, her

649
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:35.539
<v Speaker 2>She is not the person they want speaking about their

650
00:39:35.579 --> 00:39:38.820
<v Speaker 2>culture and about themselves because there's a lot of shit

651
00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:41.909
<v Speaker 2>going on with her. And that's how I feel about Raven. One,

652
00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:46.230
<v Speaker 2>let's stop asking child actors about their opinions on things.

653
00:39:47.179 --> 00:39:50.539
<v Speaker 2>or celebrities in general, a lot of celebrities have almost

654
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 2>no schooling. And I bet you Raven-Symoné has zero schooling

655
00:39:52.820 --> 00:40:00.829
<v Speaker 2>because she's been famous since three. So you don't have

656
00:40:00.849 --> 00:40:03.510
<v Speaker 2>a lot of education. It doesn't seem like you research

657
00:40:03.530 --> 00:40:07.809
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things. You're often talking from a point

658
00:40:07.849 --> 00:40:13.869
<v Speaker 2>of view that is rare or experiences that are rare

659
00:40:13.909 --> 00:40:17.489
<v Speaker 2>experience or just to you. And so I don't want

660
00:40:17.650 --> 00:40:23.030
<v Speaker 2>Raven-Symoné representing the Black experience because that's not her experience.

661
00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:25.230
<v Speaker 2>She can talk about her own stuff all she wants to,

662
00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:28.570
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of letting her speak for everyone else,

663
00:40:28.690 --> 00:40:30.389
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a good thing. I think we

664
00:40:30.409 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>should just let Raven... Raven's one of those people that

665
00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:37.300
<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't be hearing from all the time. But if

666
00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:39.059
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have to hear from her, I don't

667
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 2>want us... I don't want anybody taking what Raven says

668
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:48.050
<v Speaker 2>is gospel. Raven is someone who is... who was fine

669
00:40:48.849 --> 00:40:53.360
<v Speaker 2>saying that her black ass on a show with a

670
00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:55.739
<v Speaker 2>black mother, a black father, a black little brother, her

671
00:40:55.780 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>mother had mini twists, her father had a place called

672
00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:02.619
<v Speaker 2>the Chill Grill, might not have been black. Like, what

673
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.619
<v Speaker 2>the fuck, Raven? What the fuck? What was she doing

674
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:10.030
<v Speaker 2>with all those finger waves? What the fuck? I'm not

675
00:41:10.090 --> 00:41:12.530
<v Speaker 2>saying that she's always wrong, but I'm saying that I

676
00:41:12.550 --> 00:41:16.150
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear from her anymore. And Doja Cat...

677
00:41:16.929 --> 00:41:19.150
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is this week too doja cat did like

678
00:41:19.190 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of videos about how she was like a

679
00:41:23.699 --> 00:41:28.460
<v Speaker 2>drug addict and that's why she was doing weird shit

680
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.980
<v Speaker 2>um like i guess she was like showing feet in

681
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.539
<v Speaker 2>uh racist chat rooms and then at some point she

682
00:41:36.579 --> 00:41:41.139
<v Speaker 2>had like a white supremacist like shirt on that she

683
00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:45.409
<v Speaker 2>thrifted or something and I don't know. Doja Cat's been

684
00:41:45.429 --> 00:41:49.730
<v Speaker 2>weird for a while, and she has explained that she

685
00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:53.369
<v Speaker 2>got low racial esteem, too. That's part of... I mean,

686
00:41:54.429 --> 00:41:57.380
<v Speaker 2>but as far as I know, Raven-Symoné's never been on

687
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 2>a white supremacist chat showing her feet. I did see

688
00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 2>people being like, what do you want from her? You

689
00:42:05.340 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>never made a mistake! No, I never made those type

690
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.630
<v Speaker 2>of mistakes. I never made no type of mistakes like that.

691
00:42:11.469 --> 00:42:20.409
<v Speaker 2>I don't... I actually don't care that much about that. Um, I, I,

692
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.710
<v Speaker 2>I think what's more cute, like that doesn't, fine. That

693
00:42:23.730 --> 00:42:27.329
<v Speaker 2>was just, okay. Okay. Uh, haven't you ever thrifted anything?

694
00:42:27.369 --> 00:42:31.230
<v Speaker 2>You don't, nobody Googles everything that's on a shirt. They thrifted.

695
00:42:31.730 --> 00:42:34.269
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people do, but okay. She's famous.

696
00:42:34.369 --> 00:42:36.349
<v Speaker 2>That's different. And when it happened, she didn't come out

697
00:42:36.369 --> 00:42:37.889
<v Speaker 2>and be like, I didn't know that. She didn't say that.

698
00:42:37.929 --> 00:42:42.900
<v Speaker 2>That was like, whatever. Okay. Fine. Um, I don't have

699
00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:45.980
<v Speaker 2>a problem with people being like, let's forgive Doja Cat. Okay.

700
00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>If that's what we want to do, that's what we

701
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.369
<v Speaker 2>want to do. What I find interesting, what I'm curious

702
00:42:50.409 --> 00:42:53.349
<v Speaker 2>about is the timing of this. Doja Cat's last album

703
00:42:53.389 --> 00:42:58.230
<v Speaker 2>didn't do very well. And Doja is like incredibly talented,

704
00:42:58.289 --> 00:43:06.769
<v Speaker 2>you know? And really is like... I don't know why

705
00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 2>her album didn't do that. That's just what I heard.

706
00:43:09.019 --> 00:43:10.780
<v Speaker 2>And so is that why she's on here? Does she

707
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.289
<v Speaker 2>think it's because... People are upset with her doing racist things.

708
00:43:15.650 --> 00:43:17.250
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's true. I think most people don't

709
00:43:17.269 --> 00:43:19.070
<v Speaker 2>care about you doing it. Most of your audience doesn't

710
00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:23.699
<v Speaker 2>care about that. So I wonder why this is happening, right?

711
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Did someone tell her that she needed to come out

712
00:43:26.139 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>and say stuff like this? I'm not sure. I mean,

713
00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>people do all kinds of shit when they're on drugs. Like,

714
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.809
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised. I guess the question is, what's

715
00:43:36.849 --> 00:43:40.989
<v Speaker 2>she going to do next, right? I don't know. But

716
00:43:41.050 --> 00:43:42.750
<v Speaker 2>it used to be a time where I'd be like,

717
00:43:42.869 --> 00:43:45.670
<v Speaker 2>I'd really be looking down on someone like Doja who

718
00:43:45.750 --> 00:43:47.630
<v Speaker 2>had spent most of her life being the only Black

719
00:43:47.670 --> 00:43:50.789
<v Speaker 2>person in her neighborhood, disconnected from her Black side of

720
00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:58.539
<v Speaker 2>her family, and just being phenotypically Black, but also having

721
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 2>no access to Black culture and Black community. Yeah, there

722
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>was a time when I'd be like, well, that's your fault.

723
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>You're grown now. Go get some Black community. But I

724
00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:11.570
<v Speaker 2>don't feel that way anymore. I do understand That's difficult.

725
00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:17.929
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man. And this is why I don't

726
00:44:17.969 --> 00:44:19.409
<v Speaker 2>do drugs, because I don't want to be showing my

727
00:44:19.449 --> 00:44:22.130
<v Speaker 2>feet in no racist chat rooms. I don't want to

728
00:44:22.150 --> 00:44:27.949
<v Speaker 2>be doing that. I don't know. As far as Raven's concerned,

729
00:44:28.349 --> 00:44:30.429
<v Speaker 2>it's okay for her to be quiet. It's okay for

730
00:44:30.510 --> 00:44:32.710
<v Speaker 2>us not to hang on every word she says. She's

731
00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.489
<v Speaker 2>talking about her own experience, which is rarefied. That's not

732
00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:38.670
<v Speaker 2>the experience that most of us have had. And also...

733
00:44:38.829 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 2>she has low racial esteem. So like, I just, she

734
00:44:44.219 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>is beloved by the black community. It doesn't mean she

735
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 2>speaks for the black community. You know what I'm saying?

736
00:44:48.139 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 2>All right. Let's talk about one last thing. And this

737
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>happened right before I was going to record. So I

738
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.469
<v Speaker 2>had to stop and like regroup. So Phaedra and CT

739
00:44:59.929 --> 00:45:03.190
<v Speaker 2>are a thing. Who is CT? If you don't know

740
00:45:03.210 --> 00:45:04.650
<v Speaker 2>who Phaedra is, I don't even know why you're listening

741
00:45:04.690 --> 00:45:07.820
<v Speaker 2>to this, but who is CT? CT is, I forget

742
00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:15.909
<v Speaker 2>his name. Um, he appeared on the real world. Uh,

743
00:45:16.010 --> 00:45:17.769
<v Speaker 2>he was a guy from Boston who liked to fight

744
00:45:17.789 --> 00:45:21.219
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Then he started going on challenges. He was cute. Okay.

745
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>He was cute. Everybody had a thing for CT. He

746
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.460
<v Speaker 2>was big and cute and, and everyone thought they could

747
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 2>fix them. He used to get drunk and fight people

748
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 2>and they'd be like, I can fix them. We all

749
00:45:29.699 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>said that. But then he started going on the challenges

750
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 2>and he met a woman named Diem and Diem. I

751
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 2>don't remember a lot about Diem before she got cancer,

752
00:45:41.780 --> 00:45:47.300
<v Speaker 2>but she was like a blonde party-ish girl. I don't

753
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>even remember, like, was she on the season of Real World?

754
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>But they started going on challenges. CT and Diem met

755
00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 2>each other and had a relationship that was on and

756
00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:02.690
<v Speaker 2>off because CT, something wrong with CT. And they just

757
00:46:02.710 --> 00:46:04.650
<v Speaker 2>weren't really that made for each other. But then she

758
00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:07.550
<v Speaker 2>got cancer and then they really got back on. And

759
00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:12.940
<v Speaker 2>that became a love story of an early aughts love

760
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:17.659
<v Speaker 2>story is what it was. And when she got cancer

761
00:46:17.699 --> 00:46:19.860
<v Speaker 2>and she had to shave her head and CT total,

762
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:24.750
<v Speaker 2>she was like, we followed their relationship, which was very romantic,

763
00:46:24.869 --> 00:46:28.050
<v Speaker 2>although not practical. And they were never going to end

764
00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>up together. Okay. DM dies. Like that, that challenge where

765
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.340
<v Speaker 2>she's wearing a wig all the time and she's supposed

766
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to do something. She needs to take the wig off. Obviously,

767
00:46:39.260 --> 00:46:40.940
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this was set up by protection. Like

768
00:46:40.980 --> 00:46:46.389
<v Speaker 2>this was not organic. And they're like, like she takes

769
00:46:46.449 --> 00:46:49.139
<v Speaker 2>the wig off and you see her short and her

770
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.250
<v Speaker 2>hair is dark. Her hair is dark since like it's

771
00:46:51.309 --> 00:46:54.489
<v Speaker 2>growing back. And like, I don't know. It's a whole thing.

772
00:46:54.550 --> 00:46:56.590
<v Speaker 2>CT and DM. Like, I don't have time to sit

773
00:46:56.630 --> 00:46:58.530
<v Speaker 2>here and explain this to you. Like, go look it up.

774
00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:08.670
<v Speaker 2>And she died. they weren't together when she died. I

775
00:47:08.690 --> 00:47:13.789
<v Speaker 2>think the reasons were him. And that has put, CT

776
00:47:13.849 --> 00:47:16.619
<v Speaker 2>used to be a hot, broken bird who was in

777
00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>love with a cancer girl and we watched it and

778
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.079
<v Speaker 2>that is what makes CT, cemented CT's place in pop history.

779
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 2>In pop culture, excuse me. CT also has a baby

780
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 2>with one of the twins from Bad Girls Club. I

781
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 2>forget their last names, but the ones that were eating

782
00:47:35.099 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Chipotle and bleeding at the same time, though, she's got

783
00:47:37.619 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 2>a baby one of her. People were always like, why

784
00:47:39.659 --> 00:47:43.230
<v Speaker 2>would you have a baby? People really place CT up

785
00:47:43.949 --> 00:47:49.349
<v Speaker 2>on a pedestal. I am fine finding someone sexy and

786
00:47:49.369 --> 00:47:51.550
<v Speaker 2>then later on being like, I don't know, they're kind

787
00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:54.289
<v Speaker 2>of a dick. They're not that great. But I know

788
00:47:54.329 --> 00:47:56.409
<v Speaker 2>a lot of you are in love with men, white men,

789
00:47:56.449 --> 00:47:59.469
<v Speaker 2>and that's fine too. Who among us hasn't been in

790
00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:02.869
<v Speaker 2>love with a mid-white man? I talked about this a

791
00:48:02.889 --> 00:48:06.550
<v Speaker 2>lot when I talked about traitors. CT was on traitors.

792
00:48:06.809 --> 00:48:09.230
<v Speaker 2>And if I'm not mistaken, he was on traitors with Phaedra.

793
00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:12.130
<v Speaker 2>Phaedra did very well on traitors. I had such a

794
00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:16.489
<v Speaker 2>good time with her on there. It is part of

795
00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:20.710
<v Speaker 2>Phaedra's redemption, right? I've always told you Phaedra's not a

796
00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 2>good person, but she's fun. And sometimes that's more important, okay? Okay.

797
00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 2>And so people really loved her on Traitors. And I

798
00:48:31.659 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 2>told you the reason they really loved her on Traitors

799
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:39.019
<v Speaker 2>is because she is doing the things she normally does,

800
00:48:40.019 --> 00:48:42.710
<v Speaker 2>but she's having fun doing it. The scheming, the lying,

801
00:48:42.730 --> 00:48:44.650
<v Speaker 2>those are things Phaedra is really good at. But she

802
00:48:44.670 --> 00:48:45.949
<v Speaker 2>was having a good time and we were all having

803
00:48:45.969 --> 00:48:55.309
<v Speaker 2>a good time watching her. CT wins that season with Rochelle. Maybe. Maybe.

804
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.079
<v Speaker 2>That's the season one where MJ's really mad and blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever.

805
00:49:00.099 --> 00:49:02.940
<v Speaker 2>I didn't love that win either. And I did. I

806
00:49:03.099 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>hate it when Rob won. Y'all, again, y'all love a

807
00:49:05.860 --> 00:49:10.070
<v Speaker 2>mid-white man. Y'all love him. Y'all love them. You know,

808
00:49:10.070 --> 00:49:12.059
<v Speaker 2>we all have our cross to bear. We all have

809
00:49:12.059 --> 00:49:14.170
<v Speaker 2>our things that we have to deal with. And and

810
00:49:14.469 --> 00:49:21.329
<v Speaker 2>that's yours, but okay. So it came out, Phaedra said

811
00:49:21.690 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on a radio show of some sort that she and

812
00:49:27.889 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 2>CT are dating and they're going to the Emmys together.

813
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<v Speaker 2>Now people are shocked. I'm not, I'm not, I do

814
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<v Speaker 2>not know what esteem you guys hold CT. Uh, his

815
00:49:41.860 --> 00:49:48.579
<v Speaker 2>name is CT Tanbrello or something like that. Uh, is

816
00:49:48.659 --> 00:49:50.699
<v Speaker 2>how old, how old is this man? I think he

817
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.780
<v Speaker 2>and Phaedra are about the same age. I would be

818
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:56.869
<v Speaker 2>very shocked. He's 46. Okay. So I think Phaedra might

819
00:49:56.909 --> 00:50:02.070
<v Speaker 2>be a little older than that. Phaedra Parks age. She's 52.

820
00:50:02.070 --> 00:50:05.489
<v Speaker 2>They are not. She is not that much older than him.

821
00:50:05.769 --> 00:50:07.989
<v Speaker 2>I knew she was going to be older because, uh,

822
00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:09.510
<v Speaker 2>she used to defend Bobby Brown when he would go

823
00:50:09.530 --> 00:50:12.309
<v Speaker 2>to jail all the time. So But they're about six

824
00:50:12.349 --> 00:50:16.929
<v Speaker 2>years difference, guys. That's not a big difference. I am

825
00:50:16.969 --> 00:50:18.949
<v Speaker 2>not shocked by this. And I think people are like,

826
00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:22.570
<v Speaker 2>why would CT want Phaedra? I think that is the question.

827
00:50:23.570 --> 00:50:28.449
<v Speaker 2>And the reason he wants Phaedra is because, one, because

828
00:50:28.489 --> 00:50:31.389
<v Speaker 2>he wants her. That's why. That's why. I don't... What

829
00:50:31.489 --> 00:50:35.630
<v Speaker 2>about Phaedra do you... Phaedra was fucking Shamar Moore, guys.

830
00:50:36.690 --> 00:50:39.429
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to be clear that wasn't his girlfriend, but

831
00:50:39.489 --> 00:50:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Phaedra was fucking Shamar Moore. Phaedra fucking Jamal Bryant. Phaedra

832
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.369
<v Speaker 2>be out here popping that puss. And people want it.

833
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you want from me? What is it about

834
00:50:50.900 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 2>CT that makes you think he's too good for Phaedra?

835
00:50:55.219 --> 00:51:01.860
<v Speaker 2>What is that? Unpack that. Now, what do I think

836
00:51:01.900 --> 00:51:03.539
<v Speaker 2>about this? I don't give a fuck about this. I

837
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 2>don't give a fuck about this. People are really excited

838
00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:08.619
<v Speaker 2>because they're like, maybe CT's going to be on Real

839
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.340
<v Speaker 2>Housewives of Atlanta. Sure. Sure. Do you think CT's too

840
00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:15.969
<v Speaker 2>good to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta? What is it?

841
00:51:16.059 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it, is it, is it, do you still have

842
00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:21.670
<v Speaker 2>that halo on him from when he was in love

843
00:51:21.690 --> 00:51:25.409
<v Speaker 2>with a girl with cancer and short brown hair? Honest

844
00:51:25.429 --> 00:51:28.969
<v Speaker 2>to God, DM and Tangled, you know, at the end

845
00:51:28.989 --> 00:51:30.570
<v Speaker 2>of Tangle where they cut her hair off and it's

846
00:51:30.610 --> 00:51:33.309
<v Speaker 2>short and brown, but she's happy. She's back to being

847
00:51:33.369 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a princess. That is it. She had long blonde hair

848
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and then she got sick and had to cut. It's

849
00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 2>just like that. People are like, she's got short brown hair,

850
00:51:43.980 --> 00:51:46.300
<v Speaker 2>but she's still alive and we love her. That is that.

851
00:51:46.820 --> 00:51:48.909
<v Speaker 2>Do you still have that halo from there? What is

852
00:51:48.949 --> 00:51:53.349
<v Speaker 2>going on that it's so crazy? There are so many

853
00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:57.750
<v Speaker 2>pictures of them. There are so many pictures of them

854
00:51:58.670 --> 00:52:01.690
<v Speaker 2>together during Traders where they're just like holding on to

855
00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 2>each other and shit. Like....

856
00:52:07.820 --> 00:52:08.139
<v Speaker 1>Guys.

857
00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 2>This is like causing a wave on the internet. What

858
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 2>is the wave? What is the thing? What is the ripple?

859
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>What is the problem? What are we surprised about? Do

860
00:52:19.860 --> 00:52:23.449
<v Speaker 2>you think they don't exist in the same place? Is

861
00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:25.250
<v Speaker 2>this like when I looked at that picture of Tom

862
00:52:25.269 --> 00:52:34.210
<v Speaker 2>Cruise at 106 and Park and who was it? And

863
00:52:34.230 --> 00:52:36.449
<v Speaker 2>I saw a picture. Oh, it's him and Keisha Cole.

864
00:52:37.489 --> 00:52:41.219
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering if Frankie was there. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Yeah.

865
00:52:41.539 --> 00:52:45.260
<v Speaker 2>I did. Is that what's going on? Are you like,

866
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.480
<v Speaker 2>are you like, I don't even know that CT and

867
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:54.030
<v Speaker 2>Phaedra could be in the same timeline. Okay. It's not

868
00:52:54.050 --> 00:52:57.690
<v Speaker 2>a case of you being like, oh, I, there's no

869
00:52:57.730 --> 00:52:59.929
<v Speaker 2>way Phaedra could get CT. There's no way CT would

870
00:52:59.949 --> 00:53:02.340
<v Speaker 2>be on Royal House Royal. Do you just don't see

871
00:53:02.389 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>them ever crossing paths? But we did watch them cross

872
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.539
<v Speaker 2>paths on the traitors. And you know, I did see

873
00:53:08.579 --> 00:53:10.949
<v Speaker 2>some posts where people were like, they only know CT

874
00:53:10.969 --> 00:53:24.170
<v Speaker 2>from traders. And I was like, oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Well, well, that, well, that,

875
00:53:24.289 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that you don't really know CT, do you? That's interesting.

876
00:53:27.260 --> 00:53:29.179
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So what do I think is going

877
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:33.019
<v Speaker 2>to happen? Hmm. I would love to see CT on

878
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.340
<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'd love to see Nini come

879
00:53:36.380 --> 00:53:39.380
<v Speaker 2>back and like, Talk to CT about something. I think

880
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.539
<v Speaker 2>that'd be fine. I mean, they're obviously going to break

881
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.460
<v Speaker 2>up because they're both not very good people. You know what?

882
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Let me take that back. Medium evil people sometimes like

883
00:53:47.619 --> 00:53:52.469
<v Speaker 2>to be together. And sometimes it works. You know what?

884
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.429
<v Speaker 2>What's Phaedra? 52? Get pregnant, Phaedra. I also saw that

885
00:53:58.730 --> 00:54:02.449
<v Speaker 2>Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are spending a lot of

886
00:54:02.489 --> 00:54:03.949
<v Speaker 2>time together. What did I tell you about those two?

887
00:54:04.710 --> 00:54:06.250
<v Speaker 2>They need to break up and get back together six

888
00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:09.019
<v Speaker 2>more times. I want legal marriages every time they get

889
00:54:09.099 --> 00:54:14.949
<v Speaker 2>back together too. I want them to just like, I

890
00:54:14.989 --> 00:54:19.809
<v Speaker 2>want to be on TV like, better for getting divorced again.

891
00:54:19.829 --> 00:54:21.909
<v Speaker 2>And people be like, this is the third time this year.

892
00:54:22.010 --> 00:54:24.409
<v Speaker 2>I want that. I think that'd be the funniest shit ever.

893
00:54:24.980 --> 00:54:27.340
<v Speaker 2>Then you should keep doing it. I think Phaedra and

894
00:54:27.380 --> 00:54:29.980
<v Speaker 2>CT should get married and have a baby. You're like,

895
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.940
<v Speaker 2>she's 52. They can make it work. They can make

896
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.500
<v Speaker 2>it work. They should do that. You know, I'm usually like,

897
00:54:36.539 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 2>do not have a baby. You don't need to have

898
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.900
<v Speaker 2>a baby at 50 in your 50s. No, go ahead

899
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.170
<v Speaker 2>and do it. What does Aiden think about CT? What

900
00:54:44.190 --> 00:54:54.590
<v Speaker 2>does the president think about CT? Yeah, actually, at first

901
00:54:54.650 --> 00:54:56.250
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't feel like I care about this.

902
00:54:56.309 --> 00:54:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Now I really care about it. I'm into it. I'm

903
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 2>into it. They need to get a tardy for the

904
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.530
<v Speaker 2>party type show. Let's do it. CT's accent, like he

905
00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:05.989
<v Speaker 2>used to, he is from Boston. He used to have

906
00:55:06.030 --> 00:55:10.489
<v Speaker 2>like a really wild Boston accent. Those twins, the black twins,

907
00:55:10.809 --> 00:55:14.010
<v Speaker 2>they might be biracial, whatever. I think they identify. The

908
00:55:14.030 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 2>black twins that were on Bad Girls Club, they're from

909
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Boston too. I think that's how he met her. I

910
00:55:20.699 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 2>think he's got kids with somebody else too. He's got

911
00:55:24.260 --> 00:55:25.659
<v Speaker 2>a couple of kids. She's got a couple of kids.

912
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:29.460
<v Speaker 2>Do a tardy for the party. All right. Do a

913
00:55:29.500 --> 00:55:34.769
<v Speaker 2>little 30 minute show. where like Aiden comes downstairs and

914
00:55:35.409 --> 00:55:38.889
<v Speaker 2>asks CT, like what's he eating for breakfast? And CT

915
00:55:38.909 --> 00:55:41.269
<v Speaker 2>tries to explain to him, but Aiden can't understand his accent.

916
00:55:41.869 --> 00:55:44.570
<v Speaker 2>And Phaedra comes in with her mother in a prayer

917
00:55:44.610 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 2>cloth and Bobby Brown, like, let's do that. Let's do that.

918
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's find out that, that CT has a, a, a

919
00:55:52.260 --> 00:55:54.659
<v Speaker 2>tattoo of DM on his butt or something like that. Let's, let's,

920
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.579
<v Speaker 2>you know what? Again, I was just like, I don't know.

921
00:55:58.179 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about this. Now I care about it

922
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Let's do it. Let's, Green like that. Let's

923
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:08.110
<v Speaker 2>see more of this. All right, that's it. I think

924
00:56:08.139 --> 00:56:09.989
<v Speaker 2>I've wrapped up everything I need to wrap up. I

925
00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:11.429
<v Speaker 2>will see you guys on the next one. I don't

926
00:56:11.449 --> 00:56:15.989
<v Speaker 2>know when that's going to be. Monday's a holiday, so

927
00:56:16.010 --> 00:56:17.869
<v Speaker 2>there'll be a rerun on the free feed. I think

928
00:56:17.889 --> 00:56:19.710
<v Speaker 2>the next episode that you're going to get from me

929
00:56:19.750 --> 00:56:22.309
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a bonus episode on Thursday. So

930
00:56:22.329 --> 00:56:24.730
<v Speaker 2>that was a great time to remind you that you

931
00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:28.219
<v Speaker 2>should sign up for bonus episodes. They're on Patreon or

932
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.420
<v Speaker 2>on Apple subscriptions. They're five bucks a month. And you

933
00:56:31.460 --> 00:56:34.889
<v Speaker 2>get four extra episodes. I don't ever take off my

934
00:56:34.929 --> 00:56:38.050
<v Speaker 2>bonus episodes. If there's a holiday, I don't do the

935
00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:40.969
<v Speaker 2>free episode that comes out on Monday. But the bonus episodes,

936
00:56:41.010 --> 00:56:43.730
<v Speaker 2>they're always here. And you also get shows like this

937
00:56:43.829 --> 00:56:47.860
<v Speaker 2>that you just listen to ad-free. So it's a no-brainer

938
00:56:47.900 --> 00:56:50.380
<v Speaker 2>on this one. All right. I'll see you guys on

939
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:51.300
<v Speaker 2>the next one. Later.