WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:03.839 Hi. 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:08.240 This is Jim o'donald from Sun City, West Arizona, and 3 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:12.240 I played Corna Bella golf course. This is Golf Smarter 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:13.720 number ninety seventy. 5 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.359 I'm a third generation golf pro. Our son is a 6 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.640 fourth generation golf bro. My grandpa was a greens keeper 7 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:21.399 and he built courses and was a golf pro in 8 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.719 the Atlanta area starting one hundred years ago. His son 9 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:27.120 and daughter, my dad and my aunt were always in 10 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.920 the golf industry. My dad's first name is Rell. He 11 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.000 worked for McGregor and then his sister, my aunt Louise, 12 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:35.479 is one of the Ladies' Hall of Famers. I got 13 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:37.600 my first lesson drummer when I was eighteen. I was 14 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.240 on the back nine with her, the first time I'd 15 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.520 ever played with her. So I'm all excited. I'm having 16 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.200 a great time. And she hits this drive out there 17 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.240 and at the time, she is fifty five years old, 18 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:49.399 so she's still playing in the LPGA tournament at this time, 19 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.280 the LPGA Championship. About halfway through the back nine, her 20 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.960 drive starts at the right son of the ferry like always, 21 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:56.719 and it kind of falls to the right a little 22 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:58.520 bit and it goes a couple of steps into the 23 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:03.200 right rough in the cart, and ancess starts driving, and 24 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.439 I said, oh, why you didn't like that drive, did you? 25 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.640 And she stopped the cart and she took me right 26 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.200 in the eye. She said, I don't know, Joel, I 27 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:11.120 don't care. I said, well, I thought you've been hitting 28 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:12.480 that little draw all day. I thought you wanted to 29 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:14.439 draw back. She said, well, I do want to draw back, Jel. 30 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:16.040 It's been drawn back all day. But that would just 31 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:17.840 stayed a little to the right. But I can still 32 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.760 get three or four from there, can't I, Joel, So 33 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.400 that drive doesn't bother me in the least. That's the 34 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.439 main difference between players like me and players like you, Joel. 35 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:29.400 I enjoyed my good missus. Players like you y'all complain 36 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.000 about your good missus. She said, Joel, this is the 37 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.280 main thing I learned from Bobby Jones. All par golf is, Joel, 38 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.519 is getting your drive out there somewhere where you can 39 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:39.760 swing at it, getting the next one on or around 40 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.120 the green, and then you get down in two shots 41 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.560 from there. I do not have to make one perfect 42 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:52.040 swing to shoot par golf. 43 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.760 It's time we learn how to appreciate our good missus 44 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.760 with PGA Master Professional Joel Sucksist. 45 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.879 Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf 46 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.920 minds to help you lower your score and raise your 47 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:08.759 golf IQ. 48 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.000 Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smurter Podcast. Joel. 49 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:16.439 Thank you, Fred, it's an honored to be here with you. 50 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:20.039 Oh, it's great to have you on because I always 51 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:24.159 like getting instructors on, and it's a treat to have 52 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.919 a PGA Master teaching professional on. What's the difference between 53 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:33.639 a master professional and a PGA certified Instructor's that's a 54 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.360 very good question, and well to start off, that's pretty 55 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:37.800 good for me. 56 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:41.879 I'm one for one indeed, indeed, and again I'm honored 57 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:43.719 to be here because you have been doing it so long. 58 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.400 I've checked out a few of them over the years. 59 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:48.639 So it's like I said, it's nice to be one 60 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.520 of your valued guest heres. So thank you. But there 61 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.479 a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that 62 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.599 people think the PGA Tour and the PJ of America 63 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:03.479 are the same thing. Who are casual golfers. The PGA 64 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.759 Tour are the two hundred famous guys that we see 65 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.919 on TV every weekend, and we enjoy seeing them. But 66 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.719 they're only about two hundred members of the PGA Tour. 67 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:18.919 But the PGA of America has thirty thousand members, and 68 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:22.439 I'm one of those thirty thousand, and we're the club pros. 69 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:26.039 We're the fellas who run the shop at you know 70 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:31.360 Hard Scrabble Country Club or you know Glenn Meadows golf 71 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:35.360 Course down the road, un municipal golf course down the road. 72 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.800 We're the fellows who run the shop there, who operate 73 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.400 the business. So they are thirty thousand of us. Now, 74 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.639 there are twenty four different types of PGA of America member, 75 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.759 and so maybe a head pro to driving range is 76 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.879 classified as an A two, whereas a head pro to 77 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.599 golf course who's a PGA members classified as A one. 78 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:58.120 I'm called an A six because I just give lessons 79 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.439 all day long, every day since nineteen ninety two when 80 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.719 I left Sea Island to go down to the Jacksonville, 81 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:08.280 Prontavidre area. And then in two thousand, I had been 82 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.159 a member for ten years and I had had some 83 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:13.879 good success as a teaching pro, and I'd done a 84 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.439 lot of studying to become a master professional, and so 85 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:22.199 in two thousand I became a master professional. And that's 86 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:26.040 just because I've done so much education and kind of 87 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.639 a thesis, like a graduate level thesis, a big workbook. 88 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.199 I presented and passed a oral test with some mucky 89 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.720 MUCKs down in Florida, and so they called me a 90 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.920 master professional. Since two thousand and they are about three 91 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.199 hundred of us now I think in the United States 92 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.519 that are master professionals, But about two hundred and fifty 93 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.199 of those master professionals run courses. They're a head pro 94 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.560 or a general manager at a country club or a 95 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.079 public course or a resort. But only about one hundred 96 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.800 of US master professionals tea each full time. Like me. 97 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:03.639 I think they're only about one hundred of US or 98 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.240 one hundred and twenty of US. Maybe I'm one of 99 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.199 those hundred and one hundred and twenty mass professionals in 100 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.240 the country who just teach. We don't run a course, 101 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.600 you know, we don't manage the employees or run the 102 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.439 tournaments or run the food and beverage. We just give 103 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.439 lessons all day. And I've been doing that since nineteen 104 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.079 ninety two. Like I said, when I left Seattle, so 105 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.439 a mass professional just has a higher level of education, 106 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:28.160 certification and accomplishment. And then among PJA Master professionals, there 107 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.279 are only about one hundred of us who actually just 108 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.680 teach all day, just give lessons. We don't run the shop. 109 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.439 We're thankful for the guys who run the shop so 110 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.240 we can have a beautiful goal for us. You are 111 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.240 in a beautiful driving range and a beautiful resort to 112 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.000 go to because of our fellow professionals, So that gives 113 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:42.759 you a little lightly. I'm just one of the guys 114 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.480 who just teaches all day and happens to also be 115 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:45.360 a mass professional. 116 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:51.079 And do the master professionals also instruct PGA instructors. 117 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.879 That's a good question too, man. I appreciate that the 118 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.600 I have done a few classes over the years. It's 119 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:02.639 some of our chapter or section meetings because the guys 120 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.199 knew of my reputation wanted me to do that. I've 121 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:09.759 also taught classes at the Professional Golf Management Program at 122 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:18.519 Ohio State University, where they train college age students who 123 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.120 want to become PGA members, and I've enjoyed doing that 124 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:25.000 about once a year for about eight years or so. 125 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.399 I taught a class up there for the professional golf 126 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.199 management students who are burgeoning PGA members. So yeah, so 127 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.920 quite often we'll get called upon to tell the guys, 128 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.360 you know, the things we've learned over the years. 129 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.639 Now you mentioned there's a one, A two, and you're 130 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.160 in a six. Is there a three, four and five? 131 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:48.480 Yes. 132 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:52.120 Indeed, when I became a member in nineteen ninety, a 133 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.319 PGA member in nineteen ninety, I was working at Sea 134 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.959 Island at the time, and I think there were nine 135 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:03.519 different class A card members, nine different types. A one 136 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.959 was a head pro to golf course. A two is 137 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:11.040 a head pro to driving range. A three was I 138 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.879 think a tour player. A PGA tour player in fact 139 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.680 is a three in fact okay, and so that's that. 140 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:19.720 And then a four I think was like a past 141 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:23.199 president of the association. A five was something else. So 142 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.759 in nineteen ninety there were six or about nine classifications, 143 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.399 you know, because you're doing different work, so they decided 144 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.800 to kept different classifications. And then now that it's up 145 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:37.360 to a twenty four. Oh so now see, if you 146 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.959 work at Golf Galaxy, you can still be a PGA member. 147 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.519 In the old days, if you weren't a head pro 148 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.879 to golf course or driving range, green grass, and you 149 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.519 went to work at Walmart and even if you sold 150 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:52.480 golf equipment there, you couldn't be called a PGA member anymore. 151 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.519 You left the golf industry in their mind. So they've 152 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.279 done a lot of improvising in my lifetime where now 153 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.319 you're up to a twenty four, and in fact, it's 154 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.680 kind of cute. A twenty four is a PG member 155 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:08.399 who cannot be classified as one of the first twenty 156 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.480 three classifications, so he's just you know, you might be 157 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:15.560 a golf course architect, you might be a college golf coach. 158 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.439 You might be a club repair guy all day long. Again, 159 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.839 you might work at an off course store, so all 160 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.399 these possibilities. Now you can still be a PG member 161 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.560 and do all these things that older people would say 162 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.920 that's not the traditional golf pro at a golf course, 163 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.840 But you can still be a PGA member now, and 164 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.639 so it's been pretty interesting to watch. So, yeah, we're 165 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.240 all the way up to a twenty four. 166 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:39.759 Wow. 167 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:42.240 Is there a B level or is it just. 168 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.519 A that's a great question again, Fred, the B level 169 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:49.240 of B, it doesn't go past B A B one. 170 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:55.360 Let's say a B one is an associate and apprentice. 171 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:05.360 So let's say you're you're they pro at Uh, what's Martin? 172 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:12.200 Isn't that Martine where you live? Martin Martin and so 173 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.559 and what's that. There's a nice club out there that's 174 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:16.639 had some USGA championships. 175 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:18.039 The Olympic Club. 176 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:23.840 Yeah, okay, yeah, Harding Park. Let's say it's Olympic Club 177 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:29.159 in fact that Yeah, So the head pro at Olympic Club, 178 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.720 who's a PJ member, he has an assistant pro who's 179 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:40.759 called an apprentice or an associate, and he's a he's 180 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.559 actually becoming a member, right, he's going through his apprenticeship. 181 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.639 He's learning, so he is called an associate. He would 182 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.919 be called and let's say he works in the shop, 183 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.840 he would be called a B one okay, and then 184 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.720 when he gets his membership, he would be called if 185 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.559 he stay, because if he becomes the head probably is 186 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.519 called an A one. So B one is basically a 187 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:06.279 PGA apprentice associate. 188 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:07.480 Okay. 189 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.080 They're learning with ropes and that goes from B one 190 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.120 I think through BE twenty four. So if you're an 191 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:14.679 assistant pro and you haven't gotten your membership yet, you're 192 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.639 a B eight, you're bait because you're not quite a 193 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.240 member yet, so you're b you're considered as an apprentice 194 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:22.200 slavish associate. 195 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.039 So I guess as a podcaster, I'm like Z ten. 196 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.600 Oh, that's a good question. I think there might be 197 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:31.399 a classification. 198 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.559 There is one for media classification. 199 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.200 Yeah, executive. You could be a pg member in executive management, 200 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.879 where the people who run like a local golf association, 201 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.399 like the California Golf Association, you know, something like that, 202 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.000 the people who run your amateur tournaments in San Francisco area. 203 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.240 That a PGA member if he wanted to transition from 204 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.279 being in the green grass world, he could run the 205 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:57.080 local golf association in your city, and some of them 206 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:00.960 do that. So yeah, and I bet you could be 207 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.000 a broadcaster. 208 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:10.519 Okay, well maybe, but I do help at the first T. Indeed, 209 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.720 I kind of coach at the first T and maybe 210 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.879 I can get myself up from a Z to an X. 211 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.639 Indeed, I tell you I was at the playing ability 212 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:23.399 test on Wednesday here locally. What is that nineteen eighteen 213 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.480 men and one lady trying to become a PGA member 214 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.080 in the sense that they were trying to pass the 215 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.879 playing ability test and at three or four of them 216 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:30.840 were over the age of fifty. 217 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:33.039 Good for us. 218 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:34.840 It's not always just the college age guys that are 219 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:35.919 getting in the business. 220 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:41.440 Great, great, all right, So there's so much to talk 221 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.519 about golf instruction. If that's what you're focused on doing 222 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:48.919 every day, is instructing amateur golfers recreational golfers, then I'm 223 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.279 going to want to get deep into that because I'm 224 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.840 sure you see a lot of the same thing over 225 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.559 and over and over again. 226 00:11:59.320 --> 00:11:59.759 Exactly. 227 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:06.759 This is an audio podcast. You can't not here, Okay. 228 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.639 So you'd like to know what some of the same 229 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:07.919 thing is. 230 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:10.440 Yeah, and we'll do that after this, yes, sir, after this, 231 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:18.919 all right, Joel, let's get into it. Let's talk about 232 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.399 golf instruction. This is really what it's all about here. 233 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.840 And you know what people are doing when they walk 234 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.600 in and how they've changed when they walk out. What 235 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.039 do you see on a regular. 236 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.480 Basis, Well, what I have found over the years, Fred, 237 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.320 believe it or not, is that you and I and 238 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:43.159 the guy who shoots a hundred actually played just like Bryson. 239 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:45.600 Oh well, that's good to know. 240 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.639 And Tiger Woods, believe it or not. And what I 241 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:54.600 mean that is we're all fighting the same battle. All 242 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.480 of us have a personal bell curve, all right, I 243 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.879 say our bell curve stands for PGA poor good average, 244 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:07.120 all of us. All of us, sixty percent of our 245 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:13.240 rounds are average. According to U. Tucker's statistician a lawyer 246 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.440 or girl who's just majored in math in college. It's 247 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.320 a fact everybody has sixty percent of their rounds begin 248 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.039 average and twenty percent of their rounds being on the 249 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.799 good side of their bell curve and twenty percent of 250 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.080 their rounds being on the poor side of their bell curve. 251 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.840 So I call that your personal PGA. Belkerk poor good 252 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:36.399 average is what PGA stands for in this scenario. And 253 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:40.879 what I've found is that there are three things that 254 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:44.000 really determine where you fall in each and every round 255 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.679 on your personal bell curve. Whether you are Tiger Bryson, 256 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:51.000 Fred or Joel or missus Kerfluffle at. 257 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:55.000 The club, be nice to missus Kerfluffel. 258 00:13:55.360 --> 00:14:00.080 Indeed, absolutely, mister A. 259 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.440 I mean, now I'm really intrigued here. Let's talk about 260 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.960 what the commonality is because to always noticed, I've always 261 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.840 kind of noticed that it's like any given day you 262 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.320 can go ten strokes either direction, and I guess the 263 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.000 lower you go that narrows down dramatically. The higher number 264 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.240 you have on a regular basis that that could go 265 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.200 beyond ten strokes. But yeah, any day. 266 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.320 Right, and that's what I'm saying. You go out, you 267 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:31.480 don't know where you're going to fall that day on 268 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.440 your PGA bell curve, but I guarantee it. You know, 269 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.879 Bryson's personal bell curve is maybe let's say sixty five 270 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:42.600 to the good, this poor would be seventy four, and 271 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.720 his average would be sixty nine. But I'm going to 272 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.799 say I have the same bell curve in the sense 273 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.559 that it's sixty percent average, twenty percent good, twenty percent 274 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.279 four mine. If I go out right now today, the 275 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:57.840 way I'm playing this season, if I played poorly, I'd 276 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.159 shoot on a normal course, normal weather, about eight eighty 277 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:04.360 or eighty one is poor, and then my good would 278 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.639 be like seventy, you know, seventy seventy one. My average 279 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:11.240 would be seventy four, seventy five or seventy six, something 280 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:17.840 like that, and it would be silly. But from some 281 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:19.799 guys who are in my position, they go out and 282 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.720 they shoot seventy five and they say I had a 283 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.039 terrible day, when maybe if we really looked at the 284 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.600 at God's video on their real scores on their personal 285 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.799 PJ bell curve seventy five, maybe it might be to 286 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:34.919 the good side of their belt curve. So I would 287 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.639 say that PJ master pro who doesn't really honestly know 288 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:44.399 himself is deceived, or he's arrogant or something. And so 289 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:49.360 I like all students, whether they're a club pro that 290 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.320 I teach, or a mini TOURU thare I teach, or 291 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.120 a guy who's just starting out to understand. Look, you 292 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.159 have a personal bell curve. Let's just try to get 293 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.399 your belt curve to inch down like an inch worm 294 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.600 and gradually get all three of those scores. You're poor, 295 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:04.960 you're good on your average a little lower, you know, 296 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.600 by just populating the good side of your bell curve 297 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.799 a little more often, so that side of the bell 298 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.519 curve fattens up a little bit. The poor side of 299 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:14.799 the bell curve goes a little farther away now on 300 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.759 your bell curve. And there are three things that I've 301 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.799 found this is how we all play, just like Bryson 302 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.679 and Tiger and Rory. There are three things I've found 303 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.799 that really determine in each round were you're going to 304 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.200 fall on your bell curve. So I can say those 305 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:31.080 three things, pread. 306 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:31.879 Do you think please? 307 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.240 Okay, there are three things that create big holes at 308 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.480 any level of play. When I first start teaching down 309 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.039 full time down in Jacksonville pant of Bedre area, these 310 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.480 guys be hitting a grate on the video, I'm thinking, man, 311 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:47.360 this guy's hitting it great. You know, he shoots ninety 312 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:49.399 ninety five and he's hitting a grate warming up. And 313 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.720 I get him on my eight star video and said, wow, 314 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.720 you know, mister Jones, that looks fantastic. You're hitting it 315 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.960 great the less he's his goal. I love your lessons. 316 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:02.639 I am hitting great, joy I said, yeah, mister joneson 317 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:05.720 I'm hitting it better than me. I mean, what are 318 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.319 you shooting? He says, Oh, Joe, I'm still shooting about 319 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.400 ninety I'm still shoot about forty five in my nine 320 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.279 hole league, you know, But I mean, I love your lessons, 321 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:16.160 jo All, I'm hitting it great, and so I'm he 322 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.920 and I are excited. Glad he likes the lessons. Glad 323 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.119 he's hitting it better. But it confounded me. It's like, 324 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:23.680 why are these people, some of them hitting it better 325 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:25.519 than me, and they're shooting ninety and I'm shooting low 326 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:28.359 to mid seventies. And so I started doing a lot 327 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.440 more playing lessons at the Beautiful Horses down in that 328 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.640 area in Jacksonville in front of your driven What I 329 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.039 found out, this is how I found it out. They 330 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.720 have six or seven holes that he says, Oh, man, 331 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.119 I'm having six or seven holes like a tour player. Baby, 332 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:43.559 I'm about even one, two, three over, man, I'm going. 333 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:45.440 And then I have two or three holes like a 334 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:47.640 blind man. You know, I make a trip on a 335 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.759 double on a double and I shoot my forty five. 336 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:52.000 You know what I like to call that? 337 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:53.279 What's that friend? 338 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:58.920 Ray Ray Golf? Yeah, sometimes I play like Ray Floyd. 339 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:01.160 Sometimes at play like Ray Charles. 340 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:08.640 So I'm sure you've heard this lament before. Oh this 341 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:13.039 is thirty years ago, and I'm really confounded. So I 342 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:14.960 started doing a lot more playing lessons, and this is 343 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:20.759 what I found those big holes. They have a drive 344 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:25.119 out of play, they missagreeing with a pitch, or they 345 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.519 three five or do they do all of them my 346 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:32.759 moth and but on the other holes. So that's why 347 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.880 they play six holes one over and three holes eight over, 348 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.759 which equals nine over for nine holes. And I'm like man, 349 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:48.039 and so I started quantifying this thirty thirty five years ago, 350 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.359 and I've been quantifying it ever since. And I've constantly 351 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:53.839 whittled down the kind of stats I keep depending on 352 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.000 the level of the person and the level of what 353 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:59.200 I'm learning, as I continue to teach every day and 354 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.440 try to be humble and and open minded just at 355 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.240 whatever facts the student and I are learning about their 356 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.000 game and what I'm learning about golf in general. And 357 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.279 it's really a lot of fun to show that to people, 358 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.720 to say, yeah, you and Tiger played just the same game. 359 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.720 You're fighting the same battle. I could show you all 360 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.799 kinds of tour player scorecards because I had to find 361 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.480 stats a lot different than pretty much everybody else in 362 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:25.960 the industry. And I can show you how Bryson he 363 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.920 didn't I called these three things bozo shots, by the way, 364 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.359 so I could show you how Bryson did not have 365 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:35.599 a bozo shot at the US Open this year until 366 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:39.480 the sixteenth old of the third round on Saturday. He 367 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:41.400 missed the green of the pitch, and then he pitched 368 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:44.359 on a two buttted cru his double. But he up 369 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.359 until then, he had not hit a drive out of play, 370 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:48.599 He had not had a three butt on those crazy 371 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.400 Pinehurst greens, and he had not missed a pitch green 372 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.279 with a pitch on those crazy greens where guys are 373 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.799 missing pitches all day long. Bryson was a bad man 374 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.160 that weekend four days, and a big part of it, 375 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:05.759 I'm telling you. The reasoning won is the same reason 376 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.839 a guy will shoot ninety four and have his best ever, 377 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.680 all right, is because he had fewer bozo shots than 378 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.599 he normally does. And that's why that ninety four shooter 379 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.359 got to the good side of his bell curve. Bryson 380 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.039 got to the good side of his bell curve, just 381 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.599 like the ninety four shooter. Bryson did it at Pinehurst 382 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:25.960 during the US Open that weekend, and he wins by 383 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:31.039 a stroke. You know, so I can figure and where 384 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.359 the stats would be the same. The traditional stats or 385 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:35.440 even some of the more modern stats that are being kept, 386 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:37.640 would say all these two guys played the same like 387 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.799 Bryce in that weekend. It strokes game was twenty third 388 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:45.400 in the field. So but in the way I keep, 389 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.680 the way I describe the reality, he only had one 390 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.079 zero bozo shots the first day, zero bozo shots, the 391 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.880 second day, one bozo shot. The third day. He had 392 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.359 five boso shots the last round, but was still able 393 00:20:58.400 --> 00:20:59.599 to win by one. 394 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.359 Because he had that miracle shot on the from the 395 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.559 bunker on eighteen right. 396 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.039 Absolutely, Yep, he had his drive out of play there 397 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.119 on eighteen. That was one of his three drives out 398 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.319 of play that day, but he hacked it out off 399 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:12.240 the route up around the green and then got up 400 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.680 and down beautifully historically, So those are the three things 401 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:20.240