1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,359 Speaker 1: And today I want to talk about the solar eclipse 2 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:07,440 mass religious deception and some of the history of the 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,679 way that the state, the way that the deep State 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,960 cults had utilized religious deception, the idea of signs and 5 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:20,480 wonders events to dupe the public, to corral them and 6 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:25,160 control them, and to maybe even distract them from authentic Christianity, 7 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:30,079 from the real authentic religious experiences out there, utilizing a 8 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:32,439 lot of tricks, a lot of scams. 9 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: And a lot of skulldug raid. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: We go back to the early days of the Christian Church, 11 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:40,200 after the Apostles and their death. The Church, as you 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,000 guys know, is persecut about the Roman Empire. And I'm 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,640 not going to be talking a whole lot about deep 14 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:47,600 theological stuff. I did want to talk a little bit 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,320 about it because it's going to relate to where we 16 00:00:49,359 --> 00:00:54,640 are today and the commonalities amongst odd groups, cults and 17 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:59,119 sects that are the source oftentimes for the delusions that 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,000 most people believe in the religious fear, including in the 19 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,879 so called Christian sphere. In the early days of the Church, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,319 when the Roman Empire was persecuting it for the first 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,480 three centuries, there were at least as far as. 22 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:15,079 Speaker 2: We know, many many, many countless martyrs. 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: At the same time, though, there was a lot of 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,159 groups that sprang up that had a lot of odd, 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,799 bizarre beliefs that were contrary to the doctrine of the 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,719 teaching of the Apostles that was handed down. 27 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: A lot of these groups believed in esoteric things like 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,799 the Gnostics. There wasn't one Gnostic group, there was a 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,680 whole myriad of Gnostic groups. And if we read the text, 30 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:39,079 well known text. 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,719 Speaker 1: From Saint Irenaeus of Leon written in about one eighty 32 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:44,760 called Against Heresies, the first two or three hundred pages 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,480 of that books actually detailing all of the Gnostic sects 34 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:51,519 that he was aware of by ONEADAD. Now he was 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,920 a bishop in the Orthodox Church of that time, and 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,959 so he is our earliest witness to this myriad of cults. 37 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:01,640 Amazing thing about the Gnostics and culture that times that 38 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,000 many of the beliefs that they had then still are 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,240 present today. I don't think there's like one group that survived, 40 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:11,319 but a lot of the errors, a lot of the 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,280 mistakes that they held to, such as the idea that 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,400 the created world is inherently evil, that it was created 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,159 by a Gnostic demiurge that we need to escape the creation, 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,120 or perhaps we need to embrace degeneracy. There's all kinds 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,039 of different gnostic groups and sex. Some are very austere, 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,879 kind of like Brahmin's almost mandating no marriage, mandating not 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,400 eating meat, veganism, these kinds of things all the way 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,199 to the opposite extreme of groups that believed in full 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,319 and total indulgence. 50 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: And right around that same time we had. 51 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,479 Speaker 1: The rise of a group called the Montanists, and Montanus 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,520 was the, according to his own claims, the voice of 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,520 the Holy Spirit. He said that he was really the 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,599 new Oracle, and that we didn't really need the scriptures 55 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,560 so much. They might have irrelevance, but the voice of 56 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:04,800 the Holy Spirit was now this living guiding oracle man Montanus, 57 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,439 and he actually drew quite a few followers away, and 58 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,879 he ended up being the first so called charismatic or 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,719 maybe kind of Pentecostal that you could think of in 60 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:17,439 the early Church. Other rose like the Aryans, not Aryan 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,639 like a neo Nazi an Aryan in the sense of 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,360 aari In who believe that Jesus was the first thing 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,960 that God created, foundation of the world, that the son 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,520 of God being an early, early, pre eternal creation. And 65 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:34,360 since Jesus was a creature, he couldn't be divine, he 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 couldn't be worshiped, he couldn't be a real savior in 67 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:38,639 any significant sense. 68 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: He was more of a moral example. 69 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:44,919 Speaker 1: But the Arians were not just an odd, random political 70 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:49,280 or excuse me, a theological opinion. They were actually a 71 00:03:49,879 --> 00:03:53,560 group promoted by certain members of the state. And the 72 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:57,199 reason that the state has always preferred in many cases, 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,039 not always, but in many cases preferred certain hairreses is 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,080 because they make the state kind of a de facto god. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,840 So a lot of heresies, believe it or not, are 76 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:11,520 actually useful to the state, not all of them. Sometimes 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,800 there are heresies that arise that are contrary to the state, 78 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,959 and they have to be suppressed. But sometimes heresies are 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,319 very useful cults, groups, sects, and the imperium or the state. 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,560 If they're smart enough, they might try to use them, 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,240 co opt them, and spin them to their own designs. 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,480 And we're going to look at a few of those 83 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:33,519 examples as we progress through this discussion today. As we 84 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,279 move into the premeation of the Roman Empire by the 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,160 Christian Church, we see less and less of the kind 86 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:43,360 of wilder sects, and we get more and more of 87 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:48,000 these kind of specified sects that focus on disputes about 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,879 the Trinity or disputes about who the person of Jesus is. 89 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:53,839 And this is around the time as we get up 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,079 into the fifth sixth seventh century, we get the rise 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,920 of a new cult that takes over a large portion 92 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:03,319 of the Middle East and other places, and that's Islam. 93 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:08,000 And Islam is a mix, you could say, of a 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,800 lot of different ideas, and even according to the Oxford 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,720 Handbook of Islam, many of the early Church fathers, who 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,759 say John Damascus, who wrote in the Days of the 97 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,439 Rise of Islam, they accused it of being a mix 98 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,839 of Nestorian forms of so called Christianity, Aryan forms of Christianity, 99 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:34,000 latent arapaganism, as well as Jewish traditions, Talmudic traditions, and 100 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,360 pseudopographic Christian traditions. 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: So Islam is a sort of odd mix. 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,959 Speaker 1: Of all of these things, and that's I think one 103 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,199 reason why it's very confusing to a lot of people. 104 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: And so in the case of. 105 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Islam, we get the first widespread, large scale rejection of 106 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:56,000 the notion of Christ as the son of God. In Islam, 107 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:58,639 Allah has no sons, can have no sons. Allah is 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,279 a master, and you are a slave. You are not 109 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,000 a son of God. It's a totally different that's a 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,480 different idea. So in Islam we get this marked turn 111 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,439 away from even the earlier forms of Christianity that were 112 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:16,079 heterodox or pseudo Christianity, black arianism. We get a more 113 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,120 warrior spirit and more radical idea of what John in 114 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,160 his Epistles calls Antichrist. John says that Benny Men denies 115 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:27,319 the logos in the flesh, that the Son of God's 116 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:30,160 come in the flesh. He says, that is spirit of Antichrist. 117 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:34,360 And so Islam is an Antichrist movement. Even though it 118 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:37,920 might recognize Jesus as a nice man or a prophet 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,240 or something like this, really it doesn't matter because that's 120 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,000 not what is necessary. What's necessary, as Jesus says in 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,839 John seven eighty nine, is that he's the way of 122 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,639 the truth and the life. 123 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,759 Speaker 2: He is the son of God. He's the only way. 124 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:59,439 Speaker 1: So this religious movement, other scholars argue, not just a 125 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,800 mix of of early heresies. 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: There were also powerful state figures. 127 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Eventually, you get shakes, you get sultans who realize the 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,720 power of this religion, this newly created what we say 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,199 is a schism or heresy of Islam to be used 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:15,800 by the state. 131 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,639 Speaker 2: And in my view, that's. 132 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,639 Speaker 1: Why you get, for example, the burning and of many 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,319 Korans in the early phase to give the appearance of 134 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,040 one Koran. 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,079 Speaker 2: There's always one Koran. 136 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Likewise, we get the usage of Islam in a lot 137 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:37,959 of different versions and sects throughout these centuries by multiple 138 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,000 state actors ottomans, sult you know, sultan rulers and so forth, 139 00:07:43,439 --> 00:07:47,399 the Celdruk, Turks. And what happens is that this takes 140 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:50,079 on a lot of different forms, but it's very useful, 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,079 especially to certain of the Ismaili sex For example, in 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,040 Israri I did a video many years or maybe maybe 143 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,519 a year ago on the assassins the hashashim, and there 144 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:06,480 techniques for training assassins and using things like high powered 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,439 drugs hashish to dupe young guys into thinking that well, 146 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:15,800 if you basically they would drug them, show them this 147 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:20,600 little garden of paradise that the very cunning leader had created. 148 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:23,040 There would be virgins and wine and food. And while 149 00:08:23,079 --> 00:08:26,879 these guys are basically tripping balls. When they come down, 150 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:28,959 he says, Aha, you see, I've taken you to paradise, 151 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 and if you become an assassin for me is your 152 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:37,080 this is your afterlife, right, It's a freak golf in 153 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:37,840 the afterlife. 154 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: And so that. 155 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Obviously is an early version of mind control and the 156 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,720 creation of a kind of an assassin. But that's just 157 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:49,399 one example of the variations that we see. I would 158 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,559 say the same thing goes along with the late early 159 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:57,120 medieval uses of the templars. We get the Templars, who 160 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:58,759 you might think, well, aren't they the enemy of the 161 00:08:59,039 --> 00:08:59,960 Muslims and the assassin. 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: Well, something happens with the Templars. 163 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,039 Speaker 1: We don't exactly know what in the Middle Ages, but 164 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:11,679 they at some point become entranced with something beyond Christianity 165 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,840 or papal Christianity. If you look at a great historical text, 166 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:19,759 there's a good book that I recommend from Papadacus and 167 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,279 mayandor If. This is a newly produced historical text covering 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,080 the Middle Ages, and it discusses early on that you 169 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,879 get the Gregorian papal reforms in the eleven hundreds in 170 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:32,600 the West, and what that does is really change is 171 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,720 the structure of the church. 172 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: You get a new ecclesiology where the Papa. 173 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: See the pope kind of kind of calls the shots 174 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,679 on everything. He's above all the world rulers. He's above 175 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,159 every emperor. Every emptor must submit to him. He can 176 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,879 call standing armies. We see this with the Borgia popes. 177 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,279 He can extually communicate anyone that doesn't fight in his armies, 178 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:53,679 as Alexander the sixth threatens to do. He has now 179 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:56,879 become basically the quizdos hat or rock. 180 00:09:56,919 --> 00:09:57,879 Speaker 2: He's the god emperor. 181 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: And at the same time you get these secret orders 182 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,480 of warrior monks. Now, in earlier Christian canon law or 183 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,159 church law, for example, the Council of Calcton, you have 184 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,399 canons that say that people who choose a monastic style 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,279 of life to renounce the world, they can't be a 186 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,399 functionaries of the state. 187 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:18,159 Speaker 2: They're not supposed to be. 188 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: They can't go into battle, they can't do this kind 189 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,840 of stuff. And yet we have the papacy saying in 190 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:26,240 this eleventh century, in their gregrowing reforms, now I'm going 191 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,799 to have warrior monks. Now I'm going to have essentially 192 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:33,399 secret society networks that will fight for me. Against this 193 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:36,919 or that person, or this or that enemy. The problem 194 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:42,720 is that this then creates the pattern for secret society networks. 195 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,200 And I'm not trying to lay all the blame on 196 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,759 the Papacy. I think other groups were involved as well. 197 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:49,759 There are other groups with secret society networks. 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: Muslims had secret society networks. 199 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: The Rabbinical Jews had different types of secret society, secret 200 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,279 networks and. 201 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Secret teachings as well. 202 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:02,879 Speaker 1: And so a lot of different groups have the same 203 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,000 type of exoteric Christianity, which is for the masses and 204 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:14,240 an esoteric inner secret Christianity for those initiated. And the 205 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,879 groups that we're talking about, the Knights Hospital or the Templars, 206 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:23,080 these become breeding grounds for these kinds of secret society networks. 207 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,679 And we all know that the Templars discovered a lot 208 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,480 of well we don't know exactly why they discovered, but 209 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,639 they stumbled upon the idea of usury and fractional reserve 210 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,279 banking and this kind of stuff, and they gained a 211 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,120 lot of power and a lot of wealth, and then 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,360 they had other people like the Papacy and the King 213 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:42,759 of France come after them. In the thirteen hundreds of 214 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,720 the Council of the End. So that's where they're accused, 215 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,120 for example, of being gnostic heretics. 216 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: Now, whether they were really into kissing. 217 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:55,759 Speaker 1: The butt of Satan and worshiping the head of a 218 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,200 cat or whatever they're claimed to be involved in, I 219 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,519 don't know if that is the case. I know that interestingly, 220 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,279 the Vatican, I think maybe ten fifteen years ago. 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,159 Speaker 2: Esupposedly apologized to the Templars. 222 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: But what's fascinating is that the Templars do continue their 223 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:15,120 tradition that seems to more and more focus on odd 224 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,320 things like worldly power, geopolitics again, secret society type networks, 225 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:27,600 and the radical devotion to Mary beyond what most. 226 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,759 Speaker 2: Christianity prior to that had seen us normative. 227 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: For example, if you look at famous paintings in relationship 228 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:35,399 to the character of Bernard of Claivo, he was one 229 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 of the founders. I think of the Cistercians and the 230 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:42,480 monastic orders related to fighting in the Crusades, some of 231 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,320 the warrior monks look to Bernard of Clervau. You'll find 232 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,519 these bizarre paintings of Mary and milk coming out of 233 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:52,240 her breast into the mouth of Bernard. I think all 234 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:55,840 of this is again a lot of weird gnostic tendencies 235 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:58,799 that we're seeing in the Latin West again through these 236 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:00,919 sort of secret society network that were sort of the 237 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,679 direct armies of the papacy at the time. This is 238 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,440 why we get Yeah, there we go. I don't know 239 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,960 if you see the squirting milk teat picture there, but 240 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,120 it's a famous picture of Pernard, but it expresses what 241 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,159 we're talking about. And you get the same types of 242 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,799 tendencies and the Renaissance papacy and they're focused on a 243 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,720 lot of alchemy and hermeticism and what is really neoplatonic 244 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,559 philosophy and not really Christianity. Again, I'm not laying all 245 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,440 the blame on the papacy. There's a lot of players, 246 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,799 a lot of people involved in this, but these are 247 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,639 examples of Christianity or religious ideas deviating off into weird 248 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:44,480 pseudonostic hermatic traditions. And it's always tied with these secret 249 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,879 society networks operating in the underground because at this time 250 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:52,639 there was a lot of legal prohibitions on people exercising, say, 251 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,919 witchcraft in public, or exercising sorcery and public. 252 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the squirting teat image there, which is very odd. 253 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:03,840 I don't think any this would never be seen in 254 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,039 any any Orthodox church. Uh. 255 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: This is this Renaissance period when again things are getting 256 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,080 a little weird in the West and we get a 257 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,559 lot of hermetic artwork. I used to think that, you know, 258 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:18,879 Dan Brown came out with his book, which I think 259 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:21,200 is ridiculous. But you know, I remember thinking that, oh, 260 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,159 there's no hermatic artwork in the Vatican. 261 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: That's that's ridiculous. Well it turns out. 262 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:28,159 Speaker 1: No, Actually, Rome has quite a bit of hermatic and 263 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,759 no chemical neoplatonic art, and it's not so much actually 264 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:36,759 at the Vatican. Although Bernini did utilize this geometry and 265 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:42,080 this sort of esoteric architecture all through Saint Peter's and whatnot, 266 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,080 the majority of this is actually over in the Vatican Museum, 267 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:48,120 which is the old borsha of papal apartment. So it's 268 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:50,399 maybe not so much of it's in the Vatican itself 269 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,960 or Saint Peter's Cathedral, but over in the Vatican Museum, 270 00:14:55,759 --> 00:15:00,279 and it's full of really weird occult esoteric stuff. And 271 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,919 so these secret society networks, these traditions, a lot of 272 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,600 these ideas they pass into the Venetian. 273 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,159 Speaker 2: Nobility. 274 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: A lot of the Venetian power structure utilizes these secret 275 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,000 society networks as well as the idea of debt based 276 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:22,840 currency usery based currency. And this is interesting because this 277 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:26,759 has formerly been forbidden in Christendom as a whole, So 278 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:31,480 you weren't supposed to exercise or utilize usery principles in 279 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:34,360 the first thousand years of the Christian imperium. 280 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: Byzantium for a long time forbade usury. 281 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: Until the last period before Byzantium fell they began to 282 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:44,879 accept the use of usury. The Latin West also forbade 283 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:47,159 it until the Papacy, I think in the Renaissance. In 284 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,600 this around this Borgia Renaissance period, papacy begins to lighten 285 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:54,159 up and say no, you know, there's cases where we 286 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,919 can begin to do this. 287 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: And this opens the door really to the rise of 288 00:15:58,519 --> 00:15:59,000 what I mentioned. 289 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: It becomes the Vatican Bank, as we know in Operation Gladio, 290 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:05,799 that becomes the key bank for a lot of black operations. 291 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,399 A lot of the deep state structure funding things like 292 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,639 Gladio around contradized to the Vatican Bank. Weapons sales tied 293 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:17,759 to the Vatican Bank. All of this because this is 294 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:21,159 really the most secretive bank in the world. That's why 295 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:26,000 you've seen so many banking scandals related famously in mainstream 296 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:28,279 news for the last thirty forty fifty years to the 297 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,039 Vatican Bank. But again, I'm not laying all the blame 298 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 on the Vatican Bank because there's other players as well. 299 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 So a lot of people would lay blame on Jews 300 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,279 for a lot of this, But you could never have 301 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,519 had usury in the West due to the fact that 302 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,399 Jews didn't have a lot of power. Even though Jews 303 00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:46,440 supported usury, they were not the ones calling the shots 304 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,799 throughout the medieval Latin period. So how do we get 305 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,879 to this point where usury becomes prominent. Well, it couldn't 306 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:57,320 have happened without the dominant powers in the West. The 307 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:01,360 state power and the Vatican begin to eventually. 308 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Concede to these things. So we have to be careful 309 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,640 where we lay. 310 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: This blame because it's well known, it's been demonstrated by 311 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,279 multiple scholars. The Vatican is actually the one that changed 312 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:17,960 its position on usury. Now, if we look at the 313 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,319 period of the Reformation, as we move up into Church 314 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,319 history in the West, we get a lot of these 315 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,680 cults and groups that spin off of the abuses of 316 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,039 the Latin papal Church. And certainly I would agree that 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,359 a lot of the objections of Luther and Calvin and 318 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,839 the Reformers were legitimate. They had a lot of reason 319 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,039 to complain with, a lot of superstition, a lot of 320 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:42,559 ignorance amongst the Christian people and nations. There was a 321 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:49,200 lot of abuse of clergy with multiple wives and girlfriends 322 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,759 and all kinds of stuff because they were supposedly supposed 323 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:54,440 to be it's celibate, I mean, a lot of absurd, 324 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:58,759 you know, ridiculous things, the abuse of indulgences, and then 325 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:02,440 the idea that you could donate to have your temporal 326 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,400 sins remitted, and then that the pope can free people 327 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,039 from purgatory. 328 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:07,839 Speaker 2: A lot of the things that Luther. 329 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: Complained about Mark Luther in the ninety five theses, they're 330 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,279 legitimate criticisms. But one thing that happened as a result 331 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:17,200 of the Reformation was this other element of the Reformation that 332 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,319 you might or might have heard. 333 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: Of, called the Radical Reformation. 334 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:23,759 Speaker 1: So if you think about the Reformers, we think about Luther, Calvin, Swingli, 335 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 there was a whole other group, all other branch that 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,039 the Classical Reformers of Lutheran Calvin actually fought against and 337 00:18:31,079 --> 00:18:33,920 had many of them killed. And the radical Reformers are 338 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,799 the sort of the forefathers you could say, of the Amish, 339 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,200 the Mennonite, the hutter Rights, which you think, well, they're 340 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,759 not very well known. Nobody really cares what Amish and 341 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:49,039 Mennonites are up to unless they're selling dairy that's not 342 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,240 legal according to the state or whatever. Then they're like 343 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:56,640 a terror cell, right, But really the Amish Mennonite theology 344 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,720 morphs into other things. 345 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: This is where we begin to get Baptist theology. 346 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,519 Speaker 1: The Baptists that we know about today in America, and 347 00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:09,000 that's a big portion of the Evangelicals. They come out 348 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,519 of the Anabaptists, who were one of the radical Reformation movements. 349 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: And so it's interesting to me that we. 350 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: Think about classical Reformation theology of the quote traditional Presbyterian 351 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,480 or Lutheran or Methodist churches or even the Anglican Church. 352 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: They had a close relationship to the state. 353 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: A Luther, for example, couldn't have had his Reformation without 354 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:36,680 the support of the German princes because they didn't want 355 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,400 to go along with the pope and his geopolitical power. 356 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of state power behind the Reformation. 357 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: When we look at the Puritans, right, they attempted to 358 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:48,200 kind of set up a sort of a theocracy, which 359 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,359 is another kind of state power type of institution as well. 360 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:53,839 And the point is here is not to say, oh, 361 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 they're all good, they're all bad. It's just to look 362 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:58,480 at the patterns of history and see how this relates 363 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:02,240 to where we are now with the upcomings supposed solar 364 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,200 eclipse and all these end time speculation and people freaking 365 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:07,160 out and people getting into. 366 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: The sensationalism of it. 367 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,759 Speaker 1: And my point is going to be very clearly that 368 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:13,359 a lot of this is used to manipulate the socially 369 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,200 engineered people. 370 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,519 Speaker 2: But the Reformers, as we said, are not a monolithic group. 371 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: You get the radical Reformers who are made up of 372 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:24,240 a plethora of oddballs. You have people that are the 373 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,799 Quakers and the Shakers. I think the Shakers still exists. 374 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:31,519 There's like three people. There's like three old guys in 375 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:34,799 Pennsylvania somewhere in one woman or something like the last 376 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 of the Shakers, which is a split of the Quakers. 377 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:40,440 I'm sure you've heard of Quaker oats, right, and these again, 378 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,920 these are all these weird. Yeah, here we go was 379 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,319 a bunch of people who thought that well Lutheran Calvin 380 00:20:46,319 --> 00:20:50,160 didn't go far enough. And again you think if you 381 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,880 look at these lists of beliefs here, some of them 382 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,559 were communistic, some of them were pacifists, some of them 383 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:01,160 believed in a direct speak King of the Holy Spirit. 384 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:03,960 And we don't really worry about anything to do with 385 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,079 tradition or sacraments or baptism, the Lord Supper, or the Bible. 386 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,400 It's just this inner swelling up where God directly moves 387 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,960 me and talks to me. That's a big portion of 388 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,039 that group. And that's relevant because I would argue that 389 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:22,440 what we see in America the delusion part of Christianity. 390 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,440 It's not so much the classical quote unquote Protestant churches. 391 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,559 Those are pretty much dying. They've been sterilized and committed 392 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:35,200 to a plan of death and dying out for many decades. 393 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,440 Going back to the mainline Protestant churches accepting Rock Capiller 394 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,960 funded liberalism since the twenties and thirties, so they've been 395 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,240 confessionally liberal and on the path to the acceptance of 396 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:54,559 sterilization through skittles, marriage through female quote bishops and ministers. 397 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:59,079 That's all a path through sterilization, and the statistics actually. 398 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: Bear this out. 399 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Most of those mainline Protestant churches are projected to die 400 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,640 out in the next twenty thirty forty years because they're 401 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,880 not reproducing, they're not making converts, they're really just boomers 402 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,359 and people that are attached to that tradition for whatever reason. 403 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:18,519 And so the mainline Lutherans, for example, I think, are 404 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,960 projected to die out in twenty thirty forty years. And 405 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:28,200 so this is the consequence of those churches becoming controlled, manipulated, 406 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,680 and steered by powerful entities like the Rockefeller Foundation, foundations 407 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,640 that give millions of dollars to decide. 408 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: Who will be in their seminaries. 409 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: We're going through the history of the church and also 410 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:45,119 looking at the rise of a lot of weird groups sects, 411 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,559 and how sometimes those groups and sets are used by 412 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:53,599 the state or by other powers other entities to socially engineer, 413 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,799 to steer people in the direction that a power structure 414 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,200 might want to go in. And oftentimes that has nothing 415 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,960 to do with what is actually true. In fact, more 416 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,680 often than not, it's against the fact of what's the 417 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,000 case or what's true. And that's again for the benefit 418 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,920 of the state. Now we're working our way up through 419 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,359 church history, and we're talking about the Protestants. We're talking 420 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,799 about the Anabaptist, the Radical Reformation, and how that's overlooked 421 00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:25,359 as a really powerful influence in America because with the 422 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,960 death of a lot of a lot of the main 423 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:30,960 line what we call classical Protestant churches from Luther and 424 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:34,880 Calvin and the Methodist of John Wesley and those numbers declining, 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,119 what ends up being the majority of so called Christian 426 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,440 in America is a lot of the Protestant will assume 427 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,960 a lot of the evangelical and charismatic groups. And I'm 428 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,640 not trying to go after or hurt anybody's feelings here, 429 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,279 but I. 430 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,799 Speaker 2: Do have to point out that what often goes along 431 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:50,480 with a lot. 432 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: Of these groups is the idea of an early, assume 433 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:58,440 coming return of Christ preceded by a rapture. 434 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: And the problem of the rapture doctrine is number one. 435 00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:02,599 Speaker 1: If we look at the history of the Church and 436 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920 the church that for example, put the Bible together in 437 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,599 the first seven centuries of Christianity, nobody ever taught the 438 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,200 doctrine of a quote pre tribulation rapture. This is actually 439 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,000 an idea that was invented. Some say it was some jesuit. 440 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,680 I'm not sure I believe that, but it really goes 441 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,319 along with what we call dispensationalism, and dispensationalism is a 442 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480 heresy that pops up in the late eighteen hundreds, promoted 443 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:28,880 by a guy who split from the Church of England 444 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,640 and was part of the domination called the Plymouth Brethren, 445 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,680 and his name was John Nelson Darby, and Darby came 446 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,720 up with this idea of kind of charting out the 447 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:41,480 history of prophecy and coming up with these different divisions 448 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,319 in church history, and that God had different plans and 449 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,319 ways to save people in different ways. So in the 450 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,519 Old Testament you'd be saved with certain types of works, 451 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,039 but now that Jesus came, it's all about grace, and 452 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,119 there's grace as set an attention against works, and now 453 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,640 we can. 454 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Be saved in a different way. 455 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,759 Speaker 1: But then when Jesus comes back, there'll be a new 456 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,400 temple and he'll reinstitute animal sacrifices and we'll get a 457 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480 thousand year reign of Jesus in Israel and all of 458 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,680 this sort of ridiculous nonsense, which is not true. 459 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: In fact, this is. 460 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: A huge delusion, And it's a delusion because number one, 461 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,519 the rapture is an idea that's intended to cause you 462 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,279 to sit back and wait and actually want the Antichrist 463 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,799 to come. 464 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: So rather than taking action and. 465 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Rather than being involved, Christians are basically pacified and emasculated 466 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,720 by thinking that, well, there's no point because everything is 467 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:39,039 destined to become really, really bad and things never get better, 468 00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,680 and so we might as well just concede to wickedness 469 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,359 and become I don't know, some sort of some weird 470 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,359 version of blackpill. But when Paul talks about being caught 471 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,920 up in the clouds in his letter to the Thessalonians, 472 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480 there's no reason to think that this is any different 473 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:57,119 than the Second Coming and the general resurrection of all mankind. 474 00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,319 Speaker 2: And that was always what Christianity taught. 475 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,559 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, and if it's not, really, 476 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,119 if the so called basis for the pre tribulation rapture 477 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,039 is very flimsy, like John in the Book of Revelation 478 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:10,359 being caught. 479 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Up to see the visions. 480 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,279 Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna that's a tollness about the rapture of 481 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:15,799 the Christians before the tribunal election. 482 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: Now John is seeing those events in his day. 483 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,839 Speaker 1: Okay, this is prior to the destruction of the Temple 484 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,119 in seventy eight. So if John is seeing things that 485 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,599 were contemporary and events that were going to happen to 486 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,759 the people who's writing to. Remember, he writes to seven 487 00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,720 actual churches in Asia Minor, and he warns those actual 488 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,680 churches about events that they're going to experience. Okay, what 489 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:39,480 use would it be to them if it's events that 490 00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,480 are two thousand years later. I'm not saying that there's 491 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,839 no application to the end of the world the Book 492 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,480 of Revelation. I'm just saying that it's out of the 493 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,960 context of who he's writing to. 494 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: But the real issue here is not. 495 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Even that it's Well, then, what's the point of the 496 00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,680 rapture doctrine and the idea of say, evangelical Zionism and 497 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,079 so forth. 498 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: Where does this come from? 499 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,279 Speaker 1: Well, as I said, you got these people at Oxford, Cambridge, 500 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,000 people in these elite British circles who happen to be 501 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,720 also connected oftentimes to the idea of British Israelite theology, 502 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,079 and if you don't know what that is, that's a 503 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:17,519 weird idea that the ten lost tribes in the Old 504 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:21,640 Testament somehow might be people in Europe or perhaps the 505 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000 Scottish or the English they're part of these lost tribes, 506 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 and who even knows that that's true. But this theory 507 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,640 also plays into the idea that you find in a lot. 508 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: Of European nobility and. 509 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: Regal traditions that the Merovingians are the descendants of Jesus somehow, 510 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:47,079 or that the British kings and queens descend from Joseph 511 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,839 of Arimathea. 512 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: Right now, they actually do kind of have this mythology there. 513 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,599 Speaker 1: I think it's complete nonsense, but I think they use 514 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,759 this myth as a kind of way to prop up 515 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,880 their status beliefs. And obviously, if you believe that the 516 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240 British Isles and the peoples are a lost troupe of Israel, 517 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,720 you can then begin to appropriate promises to Israel or 518 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,680 Jews to you, and it becomes this ridiculous sort of 519 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,599 self propagating. 520 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: Backing up of the state. And it's really an Anglo 521 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,240 version of. 522 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: Hebrew Israel ideology, right, which is absurd and it's like, no, no, 523 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,720 the real Jews are random black people. I'm not trying 524 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,799 to be mean to anybody, but there was a meme 525 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,640 going around on Twitter and it was various rappers and 526 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,640 people saying, look, here's the icons from the fourteen hundreds 527 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,440 out of Russia and look it's Jesus as black. No, sorry, 528 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,759 Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't a black guy. Nothing 529 00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:47,039 against black guys. Jesus even being a Jew can still 530 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,119 save anybody. So that's what he has to be a 531 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Hebrew to fulfill the Messianic prophecies, right. 532 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: So you can't be the Messiah and not be in 533 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,200 the lineage of Abraham, David, et cetera. Okay, you've got 534 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,079 to be. And so it's not going to. 535 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,359 Speaker 1: Be a dude in the new media or a dude 536 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,599 in Africa. So Jesus has to be a Gus to 537 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240 be a hebred of fulfilled the prophecies, right. And that's 538 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,599 why the Gospels, for example, include the genealogies there were. 539 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: If it didn't matter, then they would have genealogy. 540 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,319 Speaker 1: Well, the genealogy show that he's a descendant of Abraham 541 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,279 and David. Anyway, the point though, with the rapture and dispensationalism, 542 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,480 and this idea of chopping up church history and the 543 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:33,200 interjection of the premillennial UH and pre tribulation, premillennial idea 544 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:39,799 of the kingdom, the introduction of the UH pretubulation rapture. 545 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,440 This is really a neutralizing and masculating fact effect on Christianity. 546 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,960 It's a heresy because it's a completely new, made up teaching. 547 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:52,160 It's never in the church prior to that time of 548 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:53,240 John Nelson Darby. 549 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: But it's more than that because this odd sort of. 550 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,359 Speaker 1: Not well known belief in the mid to late eighteen 551 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,519 hundreds gets popularized by a guy who creates a study 552 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,200 Bible and his name is Schofield. The Schofield Study Bible 553 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,680 is produced by Oxford. 554 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,039 Speaker 2: Is interesting. 555 00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: Why would Oxford University publish this bizarre fringe idea of 556 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,640 in time stuff study Bible that gets heavily promoted in 557 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,880 America as soon as it's published after Schofield puts it together. Well, 558 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,039 I can tell you the British Empire had a goal 559 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,119 at a strategy because they knew via the Balfour Declaration 560 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000 that number one, the establishment of the State of Israel 561 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:42,440 was soon to come. This dispensationalist minded study Bible would 562 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,920 then inculcate America and the West, particularly Evangelicals and Protestants, 563 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,759 with a lot of these new ideas and new teachings, 564 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,359 which kind of ultimately it's not their only point, but 565 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,759 I ultimately serve to back up the re establishment of 566 00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,480 the nation state of Israel, as if that was the 567 00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,119 fulfillment of some sort of enti prophecy. So this was 568 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000 an engineered thing in my view. I'm not saying that 569 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:06,799 there won't be in times of stuff relating to Israel, 570 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,400 and I'm not saying that Israel doesn't play any kind 571 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,880 of role in times. I'm not saying any of the 572 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,799 I'm just saying that if you look at the actual 573 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:16,480 history of why they promoted the Schofield Study Bible and 574 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,599 why it was so popular in American evangelical circles, it's 575 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,200 really the source of why America became an evangelical zionis 576 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,319 promoting thing. So whether you think that's right or wrong, 577 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,440 I'm saying that that seems to be how it came about. 578 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,759 And the problem here is that now the just like 579 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,000 we saw for example, with Puritans, if you read the 580 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,240 Puritans the way they speak of America. The Puritans is 581 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,720 viewed America like it was the church, right, and the 582 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,680 American Constitution, or or the city on a hill that's 583 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,559 the church. If you're an evangelical Zionist, there's not. You 584 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,839 don't really conserve the church. You actually believe in Israel 585 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880 more than the church. So that's now your sort of 586 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,759 focus of everything. And the point is that it takes 587 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,799 the position, it takes the focus away from the Messiah, right, 588 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,200 and you can't have a new church that comes out 589 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,599 of nowhere. 590 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,119 Speaker 2: As the point. 591 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,319 Speaker 1: So we're talking about the usage of a lot of groups, 592 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,880 sex cults to promote various deep state power agendas, and 593 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,960 we were talking about dispensationalism and end time stuff, and 594 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,839 I wanted to close on that point and move on 595 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,480 to some other things related to the eclipse and speculations 596 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,599 about that in pointing out that so when you get 597 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:35,640 the establishment of the nation state of Israel, you get 598 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,039 a period where many Jews do want. 599 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,079 Speaker 2: To return and immigrate there. 600 00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: And when Hitler comes to power, the British actually ended 601 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:46,200 up screwing over the Jews because they want they gave 602 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,519 the impression that they wanted this to be the case, 603 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:52,279 they wanted to have people immigrate and to leave, and 604 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,240 yet they then revoked the ability of many Jews to 605 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,400 actually immigrate, and this led to Hitler being able to 606 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,960 persecute many Jews. And Hitler, as we know, in my view, 607 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,960 if you read Tragy and Ope, there's multiple pages in 608 00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,759 Doctor Growth quickly Sex where he talks about, for example, 609 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,839 in nineteen thirty I think it's thirty nine, Hitler was 610 00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:17,880 given two billion dollars in gold Czechoslovakia and gold. 611 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:18,799 Speaker 2: From the Bank of England. 612 00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,319 Speaker 1: And this had to do with their dual policy where 613 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,119 they were British were on the one hand wanting Hitler 614 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,480 to go to war and to engage in these atrocities 615 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,960 and whatnot and to cause World War two, yet at 616 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 the same time telling the public that they were opposed 617 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,400 to Hitler actually screwing over the Jews, and this is 618 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880 what led to the rise of the ear Gun and 619 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,880 the opposition to the British mandate on the part of 620 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,880 the existing Jews in Israel that led them too the 621 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,279 bombing of the King David Hotel. Anyway, I don't have 622 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,720 any position on any of that necessarily applying to quote prophecy, 623 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920 I'm just pointing out that it's a really complicated history. 624 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,519 Speaker 2: And then you get the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. 625 00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Who comes in and says that this is actually going 626 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,559 to now be an entirely purely Arab Palestine. And the 627 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200 problem is that the Graham Moftyw of Jerusalem was actually 628 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,519 an agent of British intelligence. So we constantly see throughout 629 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,039 this period a kind of maybe in an inner struggle 630 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,239 within the British power structure, who was trying to play 631 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719 both sides of all these conflicts. They tried to play 632 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,960 both sides of the partitioning of the land of Palestine 633 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,320 into Israel and into Palestine, and a lot of the 634 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:33,199 elites of the British had this bizarre obsession and fascination 635 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,840 with Islam, and I think that had to do with 636 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,840 their imperial period, when people like Saint John philb and T. E. 637 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,280 Lawrence and they went to become kind of immersed in 638 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:49,000 the Arab tribes to figure out how to best rule 639 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:53,400 them in an imperial way. And watch the Peter O'Toole 640 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,159 movie Lawrence of Arabia where you see this in the film. 641 00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:01,920 So interestingly, many of the British aristocracy and elite were 642 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,000 Philo arabisved, they loved Islam and Arabic culture. I'm not 643 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,239 saying they were all Muslims. I'm just saying that many 644 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,639 of them were on the side of this. Some of them, however, 645 00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,119 were not. Some of them were more on the side 646 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,760 of the establishment of a Zionist state, like Lord rothschald 647 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,480 and others. So there might have even been in the 648 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:25,199 power structure in Britain at this time, perhaps an inner struggle, 649 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,119 but regardless, overall, it looks like they were trying to 650 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,000 play both sides of this issue. And that doesn't really 651 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:33,480 have anything to do though with in my view, with 652 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,119 necessarily quote prophecies. But the danger is that because of 653 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,280 the nation state of Israel being set up, and because 654 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,800 of the recent wars. I'm not saying taking any size, 655 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,760 I'm just saying that the point here is that prophecy 656 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,519 people will go nuts over this. 657 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: And we already see it. 658 00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: Oh the red Heifer and this and that, And I'm 659 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,320 not saying that it's wrong to talk about this, but 660 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,000 I've been hearing the story where's the red Heffer since 661 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,119 the nineties, and and it's always the sort of like, oh, 662 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,239 this is happening in the rapture and then the you know, 663 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,840 and none of that ever manifests it made this time 664 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:10,360 he could. 665 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,079 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not trying to be I know it all. 666 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,519 Speaker 1: But you know when you hear the same types of 667 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,920 warnings and fear and threats and anxiety from this kind 668 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360 of you know, John Hagy in Times Blood Moons type 669 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,599 of stol but Moons if his real And by the way, Jesus, 670 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,519 if you don't remember, he actually wrote a book called 671 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,519 Jesus Isn't the Messiah based on his dispensationalism. 672 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,679 Speaker 2: I think he had to retract that book. But this 673 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,119 gives you. 674 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:36,199 Speaker 1: An idea of where the sort of John Hagy type 675 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000 characters are coming from. And if you remember how Lindsay 676 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,719 wrote a book, for example, saying that he thought the 677 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400 rapture would come in nineteen eighty eight based on these 678 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800 goofy charts that he had come up with. And if 679 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,320 I recall, I did an interview with a friend of 680 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,599 mine many years ago who had done a deep dive 681 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:52,239 into that, and I think how Lindsay to the prophets 682 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,840 of that book and bought a bunch of real estate 683 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,400 in Malibu, so clearly he didn't think the rapture was coming. 684 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,480 A lot of other groups and sects, like Joe's Witnesses, 685 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:05,239 for example, have predicted the end of the world multiple 686 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,199 times and when it doesn't happen, shocker Judge judged somebody, 687 00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:13,000 I forget forget his name, but one of the prominent 688 00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:17,239 Joe's witness leaders after Charles Days Russell, he also bought 689 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,320 Beth Saram this a pretty I mean, they wouldn't say 690 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,840 it's a mansion, but it's a nice, multimillion dollar house 691 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,280 in San Diego. After his end Time's prediction didn't work 692 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,800 out and all of his followers gave him their money. 693 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: Ended up buying a pad in San Diego. 694 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: So we see this pattern a lot with colts and 695 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,880 sex who utilize the fear and the sensationalism of end 696 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,039 Times prophecies and predictions. 697 00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:43,199 Speaker 2: And we think about back to Y two K. 698 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I was I was still I think, kind 699 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,519 of an evangelical minded person in the in in two K, 700 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:51,159 I was kind of starting to have some doubts about 701 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:53,960 evangelicalism at that time, but I remember thinking that, oh, you. 702 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,519 Speaker 2: Know, the media is hypeness. That's gonna be end of 703 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,239 the world. There's going to be everything collapsing. 704 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,559 Speaker 1: Society's going to collapse because the clocks on the computers 705 00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,679 won't flip over or whatever. It's kind of silly, but 706 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719 the media hyped it up and everybody kind of genuinely 707 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,440 thought that it might be some big deal. Ended up 708 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,159 not being a big deal. And then if you think 709 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,320 about through the two thousands, we had so many inflated 710 00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,039 terror warnings. Right, oh, it's orange level terror. And we 711 00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:25,000 were talking about this on the stream with the Alex 712 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:31,840 last night and Daksobiac and non Elon Musk didn'tman. So 713 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,679 it was a wild conversation that we have. You hadn't 714 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,360 watched that, Go watch that on a Bandai video. And 715 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,039 you know, then we had in twenty fourteen ish, I 716 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:44,679 remember there being a full solar collapse and I excuse me, eclipse, 717 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,559 not a collapse. 718 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,679 Speaker 2: I remember going outside and you know, it was dusk. 719 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,400 It was really cool. 720 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: Like Alex was saying the other day, it's like the 721 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,920 birds get quiet, and I don't know, it looks like. 722 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: A filter from blade Runner has put over your your visual. 723 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: Ray. 724 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was kind of cool. 725 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: It lasted for maybe ten minutes and then at five 726 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,199 minutes it was gone. So I don't understand how this 727 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,320 one would be any different than that one. Nothing happened 728 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,840 in that one, And at the time, a lot of 729 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,719 people were saying. 730 00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it was the end of the world. Bah. 731 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: If you've listened to alternative conspiracy radio or whatever for 732 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,239 a long time, planet decks, Planet X is going to 733 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719 collide with us, and this and that, all of these 734 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,760 fierce scenarios end up ultimately never manifesting. They're ridiculous, and 735 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,239 there's so many more that we could talk about. A 736 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,760 lot of the time, what I think is going on 737 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,480 is that most of the time these are attempts to 738 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:39,000 get people agitated and in a state of constant anxiety 739 00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:40,199 and being kind of all kilter. 740 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: Then you're more likely to default to the system. 741 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: And the whole point of the war on terror was 742 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,079 that to get everybody constantly afraid of everything and not 743 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,760 afraid of the real things. So you're you're focused on 744 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,840 distracted with these absurd things. 745 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,519 Speaker 2: Blood moons and Ebola and again memory Bola. 746 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:04,599 Speaker 1: Nothing happened in twenty fourteen percent and Bola was into 747 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,599 the world, but Bola's coming to America from Africa nothing happened, 748 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,880 So you notice the pattern here of the media does 749 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,360 the same thing that the goofy evangelical End Times predictors do. Right, 750 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,039 Harold Camping, he would constantly predict the rapture into the world, 751 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,159 and every time it didn't happen, he would just update 752 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,800 his prediction and say, oh, well I've miscalculated. And by 753 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,119 the way, or like Therejove's witnesses, they would say it 754 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,599 was a spiritual event that occurred and you couldn't see it, 755 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,920 but it really did happen. Right, This is con artistry 756 00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:37,480 is a convent. The same stuff with aliens. There aren't 757 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,559 extra biological aliens. I'm sorry, there's no evidence of this. 758 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,360 There's a lot of weird stuff in the sky. But 759 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,440 how does that lead us to the conclusion that there's 760 00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:47,679 visitors from the Pleiades? 761 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: Where's the heart of it? 762 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there are entities, but maybe their demons, Like, 763 00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,440 what's the basis for it being some thing that flew 764 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,599 here from the Pleiades? Just to uh, you know, people 765 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:06,559 in touch butts whatever the aliens do with their with 766 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,599 their intrusions into various worrifices. 767 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,039 Speaker 2: So this is a lot of conspiracy candy. 768 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,679 Speaker 1: It's a lot of uh, causing anxiety, getting you hyped 769 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,159 up paranoid awareness. Social engineer study this. In fact, cass Unseen, 770 00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:23,079 who was Obama's one of his czars who went on 771 00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,239 to the NSA. He wrote a famous paper, as I mentioned, 772 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,360 about cognitive infiltration, and this paper was discussing the way 773 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,639 to infiltrate truth movements people that do real research, come 774 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,559 up with real information, and to seed. 775 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: It with fake conspiracies. 776 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,679 Speaker 1: Just flood it with dumb fake conspiracies, get people arguing. 777 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: Over things that don't even matter or you can't even. 778 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,159 Speaker 1: Know Tortorio, there was an ancient civilization of much flood. 779 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,599 I mean maybe, but like, how are you You're not 780 00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,440 going to prove this, what's this going to do? It's 781 00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,760 it's not you know, it's not like understanding the Federal 782 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,920 Reserve right, and as foolish without being buying bitcoin. Right. 783 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:01,159 So there's all these fake conspiracies to distract from the 784 00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,559 real things going on, and the government wants you involved 785 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:06,639 in those stings of the government, the system. They actually 786 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,519 love fake conspiracies, and it's a form of religious engineering, 787 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:14,360 no different than the high priests and apocalypto who are 788 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,320 duping everybody into thinking that they have to sacrifice two 789 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 thousand people and worship the state or the sun won't 790 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,400 come back. 791 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: Just go watch Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. So anyway, that's my 792 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:24,559 take on it. 793 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: If you want to support my work, you can go 794 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719 to my website Jaysonelsis dot com and get the books 795 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,280 in the shop. 796 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 2: Sign copies of my six hundred page book