WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.519 --> 00:00:06.719 Welcome in to Clips and Dip, I mean Clippers Talk. 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.400 I'm Adam Oslin's second show of the day. Earlier today, 3 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:12.279 If you missed it, I did a Clippers Talk live 4 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:14.880 after that report that came out from OHM on ESPN, 5 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:17.839 talking about coach lou and his time with Team USA 6 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:22.120 and how he's extra motivated this season because Paul George 7 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.280 left the Clippers. More on that coming up, but you 8 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.199 see him. Let's introduce the guys you know him very 9 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.079 well from the Clips and Dip podcast with myself. We 10 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.079 got Chuck Mockler and Will Updike here for the first 11 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:37.880 time on the YouTube side on Clippers Talk. They've been 12 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.840 on Clippers Talk post game many times and will be 13 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:42.159 this season as well. 14 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:43.560 Chuck, We'll start with you. 15 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.320 How you been I'm good. I was. I've been in 16 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.560 line for the show. Hey, bobbleheads since six thirty in 17 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.960 the morning, but I was. I'm happy that I made 18 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.399 it here for this podcast. Excited to talk about the 19 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:56.600 Clippers as always. 20 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:58.159 We'll get to the Clippers. 21 00:00:58.159 --> 00:00:59.679 We will get to the Clippers for sure. 22 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:02.840 Will Have you been good? 23 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.079 Good? Yeah? How long has it been We've talked? 24 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:10.000 Last Friday? Oh? 25 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:11.840 In the text message, yeah earlier today. 26 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.159 I do want to know, Adam, what's the body fat at? 27 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:16.560 What's the quest to ten? Where are we at? You 28 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:18.719 don't have to get hard numbers, but as someone who 29 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:21.040 has watched the show, I understand. 30 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.280 This is we need hard numbers. 31 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:24.079 I'll tell you mine based on this. 32 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.760 Shitty scale, the body composition. 33 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.840 You got the RENFO, I got the RENFO. I did it. 34 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:36.319 I did it yesterday. Fifteen point nine is what it 35 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:36.719 told me. 36 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:39.760 Ohow, he's lap, he's laughing at him. 37 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:40.239 I don't know. 38 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:41.359 I don't trust it. Though. 39 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.159 That's better than what I got on the Dexas scan 40 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.079 of my latest embarrassing TikTok. 41 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:48.439 But I don't know. I don't believe the rent. Dude, 42 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.719 you're in way better like muscular shape than I am. 43 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:53.280 I don't know. 44 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.120 I got sixteen point two in the Dexa, which I 45 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:58.799 guess is the gold standard. I did pay fifty bucks 46 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:02.159 for this. When it comes some measuring body fat, I thought. 47 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:02.599 It used to be the. 48 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:05.879 Yeah, it was all right. 49 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.959 I'm gonna do it again in a month, and then 50 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:10.879 it'll be about a month away from the Clipper season starting, 51 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.599 and I'm trying to get to ten percent. Before October 52 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.199 twenty third, when I take on the Phoenix suns it 53 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.199 into adult so I think I can do it. 54 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.800 Is there on the line if you don't. 55 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.919 Just public embarrassment, even worse than the TikTok videos I've 56 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:25.319 been doing, which are so stupid. 57 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.240 You gotta go shirtless under the blazer opening night. Oh, 58 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.080 if you don't make. 59 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.479 It, that's fair, that's fair. Shame myself that way, look 60 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.800 it off, fat, I am everyone point laugh. I'll do 61 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.800 the walk of shame all the way from the Plaza 62 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:42.039 Instia Arena like that. 63 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:43.240 Oh be awful. 64 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.680 Brian Seamou will laugh at me while he eats ice 65 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:51.199 cream in my face for dinner. I mean, uh, okay, 66 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.599 I have some interesting questions to ask you, guys. I 67 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.840 guess based upon stuff we haven't talked about since we've 68 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:01.280 been doing clips and day a little bit of the 69 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.199 backstory regarding how we became fans. I don't normally like 70 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.280 origin stories. I don't want to hear about Uncle Ben 71 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.319 again dying. I don't want to hear about Batman's parents dying, 72 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.479 or see it by Sack Snyder this time and how 73 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.560 he wants to do that scene. But in this case, 74 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.319 I do want to know how and why you became 75 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.080 Clippers fans from Montana? 76 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.439 Will We'll start with you. 77 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.319 My uncle Don called me on the phone and he 78 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.319 was like, I've just I've acquired a team. I've got 79 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.680 a crazy idea. They're in San Diego right now, and 80 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:35.800 I said, where the hell is San Diego. I'm in 81 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.000 coldsor at Montana. He says, but I'm gonna move him 82 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.639 to Los Angeles. And I was like that, I've heard 83 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:43.520 of that. Seems that seems better. I've heard of that. 84 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:45.879 How's your uncle doing? 85 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:55.879 Inns Uh serious, serious, folks, folks, folks, I just do 86 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:01.879 a terrible stand up. Okay. Uh So in Montana you 87 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.439 get to root for whatever team you want. No one 88 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.319 can criticize it. You know, I think that the pipeline 89 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:12.879 to either Seattle or Denver teams is pretty strong, you know, I, 90 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.639 you know, loosely like the Sonics, loosely like the Nuggets, 91 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.480 eras of both that I like more than others. It's 92 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.519 huge AI fan. So that was kind of like my 93 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:29.480 my uh sort of basketball background. And then simultaneously, you know, 94 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.279 I have the same sort of like underdog mentality as 95 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.240 as the Clippers. I was you know, in sense for 96 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.959 no reason that there were so many Lakers fans in Colstrip, Montana. 97 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.480 Like you can't you can't just you can't just bandwagon 98 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.959 the like you can't just bandwagon the most winning team 99 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.160 of like of our generation. That's just like that, How 100 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:52.959 is that fandom? That doesn't count? 101 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:58.199 So I haven't earned this, Ryan. 102 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.480 Yeah, so you know I already had U. I already 103 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.319 had a bit of an anti Lakers sentiment. Sorry to 104 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:08.279 and you know that to Angelina. Sorry, I mean I don't. 105 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.480 Know, I don't know more, save more, please. 106 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.279 And then you know, uh, there was kind of like 107 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.360 that period of early thousands of basketball where I think 108 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.360 myself and a lot of people kind of you know, 109 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:19.879 there was a bit of a tune out there, I 110 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.160 feel like for a little period of time. Uh. And 111 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:30.160 then I was in college. I was in college when 112 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.879 Blake Griffin was at OU and I don't even follow 113 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.759 college basketball, but it was inescapable man. He was everywhere. 114 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.600 It was, uh, you know, it was Griffin Mania. So 115 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.639 got a very catchy name that you know, they consulted 116 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:49.399 me on that. Uh. And so yeah, it was hard 117 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.040 to not get kind of swept up in that. And 118 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.199 then you know, obviously he went to the Clipperson end up 119 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:58.040 playing that first season, but uh, that pretty much submentded 120 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:59.680 it for me. And then I moved to Los Angeles 121 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.800 and it was like there, you know, there's no there's 122 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.959 no turning back, like there was no other option. You know, 123 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:09.319 it just seemed it just seemed like a natural fit. 124 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:11.399 So I guess in some ways, I'm a bandwagoner to 125 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.160 my credit. Though in my defense, you know how difficult 126 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.360 I didn't have cable growing up. You know how difficult 127 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.720 it is to watch a Los Angeles Clippers game at 128 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:24.120 that period of time. 129 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:29.399 Yeah, I don't want to get any ship. 130 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:30.879 I feel like that. 131 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.600 I feel like the anti anti Lakers sentiment is enough 132 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.920 for my for my Clippers bona fides. You can call me. 133 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:38.759 You can also call me a band wagon. That's fine. 134 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.800 I don't know. You approved yourself. You are worthy of 135 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:42.879 being a Clippers fan. 136 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.920 Chuck, this start in a similar fashion. You jumped on 137 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:48.240 the bandwagon with Blake Griffin. 138 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:52.759 Well, I just won so much. Uh No, So yeah, 139 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.279 I mean, like I was familiar with obviously in like 140 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.319 one with the Knuckleheads, it was like talk about another 141 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:02.079 thing that so, uh, I'm from Western Montana, which is 142 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:07.319 more populated than Eastern Montana, but still Western Montana, And 143 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:09.519 so as someone who loved. 144 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.360 Basically the same but with a beanie. 145 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:17.439 Yeah, for the most fan mountains and so like in 146 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:21.120 the early thousands, if you listen to hip hop or 147 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.879 anything like that, the knuckleheads were a huge movement. So 148 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:26.759 I think I literally probably saw them first in a 149 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.519 music video and then all the highlights where you could 150 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.000 like download them off LimeWire or whatever. 151 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:33.759 Were you watching what. 152 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:36.360 Was it called a Perfect Score with Darius Miles the movie? 153 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:43.199 Oh yeah, just a powerhouse performance. So I was, you know, 154 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.160 I they were on my radar then, just because that 155 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.240 was also a kind of basketball that you know, the 156 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.439 basketball the knuckleheads were playing was full of a little 157 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.319 more joy than the basketball that I was experiencing firsthand 158 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.920 in Montana, where it was a rule when I was 159 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:00.560 in high school that if you don't und it was 160 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.480 a foul. You couldn't. Yeah, it was like a technical foul. 161 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.519 Did you do teacher tell you that they saw somebody 162 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:08.560 lose a finger with a wedding ring because of dunking. 163 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:12.079 Yep. So like it was very anti I mean, steeped 164 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:16.560 and basically racism. Why, like you couldn't play fun basketball. 165 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.120 So that was in my head. And then my family, 166 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.519 my mom's side of the family's from Oklahoma. So when 167 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:27.560 Blake and Sam Bradford were I think the first two 168 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:31.240 guys at a school to win a Heisman and the 169 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.279 Naysmith Award, I think that was the first time that 170 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.879 ever happened until Tebow and Noah. That was just like, 171 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.320 you know, Blake being the man. My aunt just was 172 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.679 losing her mind. Then he went to LA. Then I 173 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.799 moved to LA. I think Will was here before me, 174 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.080 and then I moved out like a half a year 175 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:52.759 or so later, and then it was just like, well, 176 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.519 fuck it, we're here, let's watch the Clippers. 177 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.240 So we're here, I think in correct me if I'm wrong, 178 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:04.240 but I think our first Christmas in LA, you got 179 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.399 a gift of Clippers tickets, and I think that was 180 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:07.200 like the first time. 181 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:08.480 Yeah what y're. 182 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:11.919 Twelve twelve? 183 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.480 Okay, so early lob City days. 184 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.120 Yeah, I got a blue Blake jersey that I still 185 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:20.399 have with the red Los Angeles script. I love that jersey. 186 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.519 The script. Oh yeah, the script is back. But yeah, 187 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.440 so that that's where I and again same with and 188 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.639 with Will, Like just in Montana, it was like you 189 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.159 can choose whoever you want to be a fan of. 190 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.240 So it was like I'm yeah, whatever, I'll be a 191 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:33.840 Clippers fan. 192 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:35.320 Do you go. 193 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.080 And my mom hated the Lakers, which was a big part. 194 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.159 My mom was a huge My grandpa was a college 195 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.360 basketball player. He played in the pan Am Games, which 196 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.240 is crazy, and so like basketball was big and my 197 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:51.200 mom hated basketball. She hated Kobe Bryant because he would 198 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.200 just win all the time. It wasn't some like obviously 199 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.399 she respected his game, but she was like she loved 200 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.120 Ai so that was obviously. 201 00:09:58.120 --> 00:09:58.759 She knew the game. 202 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:00.759 I mean she had the hooper, not he knew the game. 203 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.960 My mom knows the game. So it was like, yeah, well, 204 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:05.919 I'm not going to be this fan of this team. 205 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:07.960 And they were good again, Like what Will was saying 206 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:10.919 people who I think if you move from Montana in LA, 207 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:15.799 you do have some kind of delusional underdog part of 208 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.000 your brain. So it was like, I can't move here 209 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.559 and become a Lakers fan because that also felt gross. 210 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:25.039 And as someone who enjoys live sports, being able to 211 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.480 afford to go to games does lead me to be 212 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.679 fan of a team, and they were a lot easier 213 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.519 and still are a lot easier to go forward than the Lakers. 214 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:35.120 No knock on the Lakers if you can charge a 215 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.360 charge it, but that's where I was at at the time, 216 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.039 and never wavered. 217 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.000 I think we're all similar in one respect that we 218 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.399 gravitated towards the Clippers because of maybe a counter culture, 219 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:51.360 anti Laker type of mentality because I was from NorCal, 220 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:58.080 you know, Sacrae, small, small time team I did, they 221 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:02.120 almost left, and I was a hardcore Kings fan. But 222 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.039 when I was really young, I did like the Lakers 223 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.759 because I love Magic Johnson and the Kings did nothing 224 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.440 for so long, late eighties, early nineties. I think the 225 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:13.399 first time they made the playoffs in my lifetime was 226 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.919 like ninety six maybe, and they lost in three games 227 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.480 or whatever it was in the first round. 228 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:18.639 Mitch Richmond the. 229 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.879 Rock, those guys, and I adored them. But if I 230 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.440 wanted to watch playoff basketball and go further into the season, 231 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.279 I had to have another team. And sometimes when you're 232 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.600 a kid, colors or a smile. 233 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:30.559 Oh, I can do it for you. 234 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.559 The Lakers were these beautiful gold jerseys and Magic Johnson 235 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.480 just looked like this fun, loving point guard that shared 236 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:38.080 the ball, was a great leader. 237 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:39.960 I love the guy that played him a winning time. 238 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.840 Magic was my favorite player ever, just the way he played. 239 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.919 You know, were you also a Warriors fan at some point? 240 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:46.320 Were you? 241 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.120 Have you been a fan of every single California team 242 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:49.879 or no? 243 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.480 No, no. I was never on with the Warriors, even 244 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.279 though my dad tried to convert me because he lived 245 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.559 in San Francisco back when they won with Rick Berry 246 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.639 back in the day. But never a golden guy. To 247 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:02.799 be fair, they also were really bad around that time. 248 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.120 The Killers still I mentioned still time. 249 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.480 Uh there's there's still time. 250 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.679 But I would feel the same way that I feel 251 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.679 about Laker felt about Lakers fans back then, like it 252 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:13.600 was so easy. 253 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.840 When the Kobe Shaq era came around, I just didn't 254 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:19.039 like them. I liked Shaq when I was very young 255 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:20.120 in Orlando. 256 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.639 I thought he was funny, and then you grow up 257 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.320 you're like, wow, this guy's just. 258 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.440 Well and they kill your team. At the time, it 259 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.080 was like they just kill whatever team you're rooting for. 260 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.840 You're like, all right, well, I can't like the guy. 261 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:34.919 Can respect him, but I can't like the guy who's 262 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.039 kicking the shit out of my team. 263 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.919 Well, my sister was a Bulls fan from Sacramento because 264 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.399 they were always winning and she loved Michael Jordan. And 265 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.799 then when they beat the Lakers in ninety one the finals, 266 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.519 you know, I'm crying and cared so much, and she's. 267 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.799 Just like, whatever, cool, we won again type thing. 268 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.559 They really that was the first time they had won 269 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:56.799 with them j But you know, she had the Bulls 270 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.159 starter jacket, so that bugged me, and I think I 271 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.200 was just starting to, you know, form this mindset of 272 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.080 I don't like the team that's on top. 273 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:06.960 My sister liked the Bulls and MJ. 274 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:10.879 I didn't like MJ because of that, and I certainly 275 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:15.559 didn't like the Lakers and the Hollywood type of feel 276 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.440 they had with the Kobe and Shaq era and how 277 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.200 it was almost celebrated with the infighting. Oh but we 278 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:23.559 went anyways type thing. It was just like, I want 279 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.600 to root for guys I like, and I really love 280 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.159 that King's team in the early two thousands. That is 281 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.200 my that is my old time, you know, favorite team 282 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:32.679 outside of some of these Clippers teams. 283 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.200 Two thousand and two Kings, you know, I followed them. 284 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:36.559 I was so die hard. 285 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:39.480 I I spent a lifetime on that series. 286 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.799 In two thousand, you're. 287 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.320 So you have a Dick Bavetta Lakers jersey. You're such 288 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:47.840 a diehard, which I still don't understand is not a 289 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.679 more insane I don't know. That is like one of 290 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.720 the It's an iconic Kings fan move. I feel like we. 291 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:59.320 Wore my buddy. I bought him the Bob Delaney jersey 292 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.840 because he bred. That Game six in two thousand and two, 293 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:04.840 for those who don't know, is one of the more 294 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.480 scrutinized games for bad officiating in the history of sports. 295 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.120 The Lakers got twenty seven free throws in the fourth 296 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.519 quarter of that game. Scott Pollard filed out in ten 297 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.480 minutes in that game, and the Lakers had to win 298 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.200 to extend the series to go back and have a 299 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:24.240 Sunday game on NBC in Sacramento. In Game seven, Wow, 300 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:26.279 nothing at all. 301 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.279 I don't know. Some ref went to jail for something, 302 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.159 but Tim Donnie actually wasting that series. 303 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:34.480 Yeah, a rogue referee, even though he was calling Scott 304 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.600 Foster a four and after every game. That's no story 305 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.360 for another day. I don't think Scott Foster was involved 306 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.919 in anything. But at that time, you know, I was 307 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.120 so upset and spent so much time because then I 308 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.759 coming to college down here, I'm at my old university, 309 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:58.279 Bible Institute of Los Angeles. I'm arguing the basketball team NAIA. 310 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.879 Or something league. I didn't really want many games. 311 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:09.840 But I'm taking all this yeah incoming from Lakers fans, 312 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.519 and I'm fighting in the forums of BIOLA. 313 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:17.799 Hell yeah clubs or something that's. 314 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.840 Is bord fighting all day long because the series had 315 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.159 just happened by the time I get there, and that 316 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.519 only crystallized my fandom for the Kings and hatred for 317 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.600 the Los Angeles Lakers, so I could never be a 318 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:31.919 Lakers fan like you guys. 319 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.799 And then I went to a Clippers Kings game around 320 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:39.639 that time. It was two thousand and three, so it's 321 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.000 the next season. Somebody drove by. 322 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:44.480 It was a friend, but he randomly was like, hey, 323 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.200 you guys, won't take us to the Clippers games? 324 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:47.879 And I were like, yeah, we'll go to the basketball game. 325 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.320 Who are they playing? The Kings of dope, We're gonna 326 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:51.480 see the Sacramento Kings. 327 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.600 And it was funny because at that game, during a 328 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.279 time out, you know, they'd have some fun on the 329 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.039 Jumbo Tron. They were comparing I don't know if the 330 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.519 second Adam's Family movie was out, they were doing some 331 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.799 promotion for that, but they were showing like one of 332 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.399 the characters from that and then comparing them to a player. 333 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.519 And they showed who was the bald guy in the. 334 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:19.200 Uncle That sounds right, Yeah, they showed him and then 335 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.039 they did a side by side juxtaposition with key On 336 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.360 Clark of the Sacramento Kings on the Jumbo trod and 337 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:26.720 he flipped it off. 338 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.840 The bringest middle finger I've ever seen in my life. 339 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.799 He was fined fifty thousand dollars. You can find this report, 340 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:38.240 but I was like, it was like for a guy that. 341 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:40.480 Was, I don't know, making two million dollars a year 342 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.519 or something like that back then, maybe less good player. 343 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.480 But I always liked the Clippers because anti Lakers stuff, 344 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.279 and also like you the knuckleheads. I saw a game 345 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:54.039 at Arco one time where all Darius Miles did pregame 346 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.759 was shoot half court shots while everybody else is in 347 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.320 the layup line. It was just like, awesome girl. 348 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.240 Was supposed to be fun. 349 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:05.599 I had a ton of love for those guys and 350 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.000 the six team. I wanted them to play the Lakers 351 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.319 so bad because I felt like they would have beat them. 352 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.240 I'm sure they would have. They easily could have beaten 353 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:16.480 the Phoenix Suns. And from there I followed them more closely, 354 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.359 and then obviously being involved with the team, you become 355 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.599 more of a fan, you have a rooting interest. 356 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.480 And all that. But I genuinely love it. 357 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.880 You know, I do a lot of podcasts right now 358 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.519 just because I can't stop thinking about the damn Clippers. 359 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.400 And it's great, it's awesome. 360 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.759 All right, Well, thank you guys for sharing that. Could 361 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.319 we talk more about our dislike or disdain from Laker 362 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.079 fans and the makeup of them and why we. 363 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:42.920 Can't stand them. 364 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.359 I just it's so strange to me. 365 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:48.920 How do you jump on a team and get any 366 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.960 fulfillment from that when they like just are about to 367 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.960 win the championship. So my buddy like became a Denver 368 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.279 Broncos fan when they were in that Super Bowl against 369 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.000 the Packers. Like, as it's going along, he's like, that's 370 00:17:59.039 --> 00:17:59.559 my team. 371 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.200 What he's switching He's switching shirts. He's taking a shirt. 372 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:06.160 Yeah, John always my favorite player, ever, as he's about 373 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:07.200 to win the Super Bowl. 374 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.559 Yeah, I can't give a lot of credit to that. 375 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:15.759 Do you guys have any deep cut Clipper players, like 376 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.000 when we say ironically Clipper legend. 377 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:19.400 For Mike Muscala and guys like that. 378 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.359 Maybe someone who actually played a few games, But do 379 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.559 you have any of those guys in the past that 380 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.279 helps solidify your fandom that you just really love more 381 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:28.279 obscure Clippers. 382 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:31.319 I mean, I think it's probably me Los for me 383 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.519 because that was like, this was like pre even pre 384 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.680 locked on Clippers. Charles and I had a different podcast 385 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:45.839 before that, and we were very excited about me. Yeah, like, 386 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.799 that's one that will always stick to me. What's the 387 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.559 he has the Star Wars bopplehead that I think is one. 388 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.720 Of the that's at my office. I have that at 389 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:55.720 my office right now. 390 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:58.839 I love that. 391 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:01.519 Little magic he had. 392 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.839 He had a couple of really exciting games. He wasn't 393 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:06.920 he wasn't terrible. He had the plantar fascion. 394 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:07.799 I just going on, he. 395 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.160 Was the worst offender I've ever seen in my life. 396 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.200 Willie Green, for some reason, popped out into my head 397 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:15.880 as a guy who I was just like, Okay, I 398 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.839 kind of like how this guy plays basketball didn't exactly 399 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:20.519 translate to a bunch of wins. 400 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.279 Uhke for sure, just because he was such a. 401 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.920 Good guy in the locker room, dude, Jamichael Green. Yeah, 402 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:27.920 and these are yeah again this is more recent stuff 403 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.559 from when like yeah, actual contact with them so like 404 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.720 that like elevated it to a level of like I 405 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.359 mean when dude the bench mob with like Barnes and 406 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.960 that stuff like that. That was a cool time when 407 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.559 it was like they were kind of you know, they 408 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.559 bring in the bench and it was not as Hollywood 409 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:47.920 as the starting five or whatever. Like I I liked. 410 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.599 I liked Matt Barnes the Clipper too. 411 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:53.400 Camp. 412 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:54.240 Yeah. 413 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:59.279 Man, was that fight that almost broke out and he 414 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:01.440 had like hold Blake back or Blake had to hold 415 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:01.880 him back. 416 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.440 There was a great photo from it. I remember, I 417 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.200 forget who was who it was against, but Matt Barnes 418 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.000 obviously about that life as Daric Fisher. 419 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.559 Yeah, no shit, But yeah, those guys are probably like 420 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.200 the minor ones that I probably liked the most. 421 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:21.160 I had a ton of love one of my favorite 422 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.400 players all time. He's not some lesser known player, but 423 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.920 he wasn't a Clipper for long, but had a big impact. 424 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.279 Sam Cassell, Sam I Am Cassell is one of my 425 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.160 all time favorite players because his Houston Rocket days. I 426 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.480 loved watching him, then I love watching him with Milwaukee. 427 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:39.519 There's only one instance. Wait, was Sam Cassell the eight second? 428 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.480 That was his second violation, wasn't it? 429 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.000 That doesn't sound like my Sam Cassell. 430 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:49.519 Not my Sam Cazelle. 431 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.680 Two time champion, one of the most clutch players ever. 432 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.920 I always felt like I think he had a quote 433 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.720 one time in Slam magazine or something where they asked 434 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.920 him if he was on our team Jordan and Kobe 435 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.680 and these all time greats, and he was in this 436 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.119 starting five, who would take the last shot? And he 437 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:10.839 was like me, like he had this ridiculous confidence and 438 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:13.880 mid range game and post up game for a guard 439 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.160 that kind of has gone extinct in some ways. 440 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:18.920 I love Sam Cassell. 441 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.519 It was Sam Cassell. Damn it wash? Yeah, I was like, 442 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:25.720 I thought that was Sam Cassell. They lost that game. 443 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.519 So many big shots though somebody. 444 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.680 That's just yeah, that's unfortunate. 445 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:36.559 Uh. The ewing play is the one I was thinking 446 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:40.200 of that stood out to me. M not defending against Phoenix. 447 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:42.400 I think it was I don't know. 448 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:46.319 So some of these lesser known guys. I really liked 449 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:48.880 Sentarious Thornwell bro. 450 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:56.480 Oh Man. Yes, he was what an interesting locker room guy. 451 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.519 One time we were at it was like the year 452 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.839 after Cindarius was off the team, I think, and someone 453 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:06.960 some player was facetiming with him. It might have been 454 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:09.640 lou Will and like Syndarius was playing in the G 455 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.839 League somewhere and we heard him talking and he was like, 456 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.559 oh yeah, he's like I got the gallo issue today 457 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.319 and they're like what He's like, Oh yeah, I'm hurt. 458 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.599 I'm doing the gallo. It was like a joke that 459 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.480 to not practice. They were referencing it as the gallo 460 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.160 for Danio Gallinari, which I think is like I'm giving 461 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.279 him the gallow treatment, which I thought was pretty funny. 462 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:32.240 I did have a receipt check with him one time 463 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:33.759 because I was praising him. 464 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:35.279 I think I said it at media day. 465 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:37.920 I brought up the G League because one time Sendarius 466 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.000 Thornwell said you don't. 467 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:40.000 Want to go down to the G League. 468 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:43.160 They're like wolves down there, and I brought it up 469 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:47.799 to another player and for whatever reason, Sindarius was on 470 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.720 Twitter and said, I never said that, and so I 471 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:56.160 love him saying it, and he never responded to it, 472 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.240 but I love the guy he was. He was one 473 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.839 of those guys that I don't know, it's a good 474 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:04.200 bar question, I guess for a Clipper fan. 475 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:10.359 Dude. Well, we would always joke that Doc would always 476 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:15.720 put Sindarius in for like an in mountains play or 477 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.720 like the final free throw of the half, and like 478 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.640 that would be like his only playing time, just because 479 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.960 he would like maybe cose chaos. So we started calling 480 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.720 him Syndarius Stints, which is always a good time. 481 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.839 What is the best time you've ever had watching a 482 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:37.160 Clippers game that doesn't include Game six to get to 483 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.759 the Western Conference Finals and beating Utah. It could be 484 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.119 something personal to you. You're just with the right friend 485 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.599 right time you're watching this game. Maybe it helped you 486 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.720 drive you deeper into your fandom saw a certain game. 487 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:50.720 It could be anything. 488 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:52.240 Will do you want to go? Because I think we 489 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.319 might have the same answer now you go. Will And 490 00:23:55.359 --> 00:24:00.119 I watched the gigantic comeback against the Warriors at a 491 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.759 friend's bar that he owned, and we were just it 492 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.160 was very fun. We were living it up. I think 493 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.279 we we caused a lot of people to leave that 494 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.160 bar because it was not a sports bar. This was 495 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.359 like a cool Hollywood bar type them. 496 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.920 Red wine, Will was when you drink a little, a 497 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:20.599 little too much red wine get a little rowdy. 498 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.319 Well was drinking red wine brings. 499 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:22.920 The demons out of me. 500 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.319 I was drinking Gin and Tonics. And I think we 501 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.680 did a we did a live like Winstain like at 502 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.400 the bar, just being like the clamper, like let's fucking go. 503 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.880 That was. That's up That's up there with some of 504 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.160 my favorite just sports memories because that also, I mean 505 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:45.000 that that that Lawlor call is. I'm getting goosebumps thinking 506 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.839 about that Lawler call. I think it's the only three 507 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.160 pointer that lander Sham had ever made for the Clippers. 508 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:55.200 But I I'm never gonna what I can remember from 509 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.119 that night. I've never I'm never going to forget. 510 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.920 I don't think they come back down thirty one. 511 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.440 We're taking thirty one shots boys, I. 512 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:08.480 Mean yeah, we were halfway there. That was probably that's 513 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.279 probably my favorite watching the clips memory because Will was, 514 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.079 I mean Will we got to be acting that game six, 515 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.200 which is freaking sick. 516 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:22.279 So I remember the Blake dunkover Kendrick Perkins. Well, I 517 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:24.240 was hanging out with this girl had a boyfriend. 518 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:25.559 I should have been hanging out with her. 519 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.880 And I just remember that not a by all over dog. 520 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:36.599 It had a sneaker and yeah, uh closed door prayer 521 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.640 meeting here, that's all. 522 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.359 It's gone all nighter locking prayer. 523 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:43.759 Uh. 524 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.720 That dunk I must have rewound like fifty thousand times 525 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:52.359 like that dunk over Kendrick Perkins, so so many times. 526 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:53.839 It was just ingrained in my head. 527 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.119 I could and the game breaker dunk I always called 528 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.640 the game breaker dunk from Jamal to Blake where it 529 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.160 does a meal that literally is a dunk you do 530 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:08.440 in NBA street, Like, well, what's your sorry? I bet 531 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.200 I was spouting off about the worst you have a 532 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:11.920 one that's different. 533 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:15.440 I mean no, it's really like it's gotta be that 534 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:21.720 games Game six is out. Yeah, I don't know. I 535 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.440 will say one of the weirder ones was like the 536 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.359 infamous I was I was in the building for the 537 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:33.240 infamous Hardened step back where he dropped Avery Bradley and like, 538 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.440 oh Wes Johnson, oh Wes Johnson, yes, yeah, sorry, where 539 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.279 he dropped Wes. 540 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.400 I forgot that, And it was like like every like 541 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.039 the entire arena stopped in a way that it's like 542 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:46.240 never stopped before. 543 00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.119 Like I thought the I honestly like, what did the 544 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.240 whistle like go off for something? Because it was like 545 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.720 it was that insane, like you saw it happen. It 546 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.160 might have been a little show with there. I don't 547 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.279 know that was actually Hardens a clipper. There's no way 548 00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.200 there was a show. There was never a shove. He 549 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:00.319 didn't even touch the guy. 550 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:00.839 Uh. 551 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.240 But like, just I've never seen I can't think of 552 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.920 another moment in an arena where the entire thing like 553 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.319 you could, yeah you could the cliche thing you could, 554 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.680 you could have heard a pin drop. It was nuts. 555 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.799 It was absolutely insane, and it felt like I have 556 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.039 to be honest with you, from the time he hit 557 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.200 the ground until got that shot off, it felt like minutes, 558 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.440 Like it felt like so fucking long. I was like, 559 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:26.160 that's why I thought there was like a whistler or something. 560 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.559 I was like, is this ever gonna end? 561 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.240 That was Wes Johnson going into the sunken place? 562 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.519 You know? That was Yeah. 563 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.680 Every time I saw him after that, the coaching staff, 564 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.000 I was like, damn, that was a rough moment. 565 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:41.519 I can't get that out of my head. 566 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.279 I mean that would suck. 567 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:49.599 Yeah, and I like, wes uh sure if you could intervene. 568 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:53.920 There was a show in the eighties called Hour of 569 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.960 This World and this girl that found out she was 570 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.480 an alien would put her two fingers together like this 571 00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.160 and release alien power. 572 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.400 Hours where she could stop time. 573 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.799 But she could be walking throughout it, kind of like 574 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.200 Quicksilver when he's moving around fast with the X Men. 575 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:09.279 You know he's doing stuff while everybody else is standing still. 576 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:11.920 If you could do that for any moment that is 577 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.519 not Joe Ingles and the a cl Terror, Kawhi Leonard. 578 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.279 Any of the other ones, how about anything, I'll do 579 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.759 it for any of the other We. 580 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.319 Don't know when when it happened with the other one. 581 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:28.240 Time. I could go through every Thanks to Basketball Reference, 582 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:33.400 I could look up every possession Kawhi Leonard ever play. No, 583 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:39.119 I would I mean the eight second thing, maybe be 584 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.799 the eight second violation from Sam. 585 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.799 You just get behind Sam and push him forward and 586 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.440 be like get across the court. 587 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.000 Or I mean Blake punching the trainer. 588 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.519 Yeah, that was tough. 589 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:57.079 There were friends, though I heard there were better friends afterwards. 590 00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:57.480 I don't know. 591 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.359 Will you got them moment you'd like to change with 592 00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.680 some divine, divine intervention. 593 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:08.200 Or everything happened a lot. 594 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.480 There's a lot to choose from what suck. 595 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.079 What's the biggest butterfly effect moment that you could change? 596 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.519 You know, it really alter. 597 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.279 Things for the Clippers. 598 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:19.240 That's not the quiet. 599 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:26.279 Yeah. I have a really funny one that I'll say 600 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:27.000 after Will but. 601 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:32.359 Montrez and Lou tried doubly hard to stop. Uh kd 602 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.319 Clippers take the Warriors to uh to game seven? Uh, 603 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.000 shay is it's not up he's not tradable. Sorry, it's 604 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.839 not up for debate. He took the champs. He took 605 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.640 the champs to like as a rook took the champce 606 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.680 to to game seven. Uh, it's not up for debate. 607 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:49.440 He's not tradable. 608 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.400 That's a good one. 609 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.799 That's interesting. 610 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.960 I think obviously more than one single moment. But because 611 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.000 he scored what forty eight or whatever something like that, 612 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.519 maybe it was it was a huge game. 613 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.359 It it might have been fifty. 614 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.039 Dude. 615 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.720 That was the press box game where we were just 616 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.440 sitting there and Kevin Durant was just one step. 617 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.920 I've never been more pissed at, like seeing such a 618 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.400 feet of great It. 619 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.440 Was like watching Mozart and you're like, well this fucking sucks. Yeah, 620 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.160 exactly exactly sucks happening. 621 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.279 But yeah, that would be my There's multiple moments of 622 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.359 intervention there, but yeah, who knows. 623 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:26.519 No. 624 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.559 I would just pause time, go over to the scores table, 625 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.319 take a few points off of Kevin Durant. Everybody blinks 626 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:33.799 and they're like, huh, I thought he had more than 627 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.400 just five. 628 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.240 But I would go I got two funny ones. One 629 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.160 just as to see what would happen. The second bid 630 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.519 group to buy the Clippers that was second to Balmer 631 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.920 had a group that was like Oprah and some other people, 632 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.720 just to see what would happen. I think it would 633 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:51.319 be very funny to see what would happen if Oprah 634 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.039 on the Clippers. And the other one, I'm keeping Liu 635 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:58.519 Will out of the club during COVID. I'm keeping him 636 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.119 out of the matter. Getting the wings delivered. 637 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:03.079 I think I think it was needed. I think the 638 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.799 vibes would have been so much worse he hadn't been 639 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.319 able to let a little steam off. 640 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.480 You know, make with Jack Carlo. 641 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.920 I would also make it so Jack Carlan never made music. 642 00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:18.000 Then that photo doesn't happen. Uh, what would you what 643 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.079 would you stop time? 644 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:24.200 Oh m, I might save Wes Johnson right now after 645 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.200 thinking back on that play and how that might have 646 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.559 affected him afterwards. 647 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.559 I might stop that from happening somehow. 648 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.880 You would stop V from recording? 649 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:46.359 No, my god, that happened as it should. Uh, maybe 650 00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:47.400 it happens earlier and we. 651 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.960 Have a record earlier. 652 00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.359 Yeah, Will's got me on this rabbit hole. 653 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.519 Now, if they somehow beat Golden State in that series, 654 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:56.759 or like you said. 655 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.920 Just take just go to seven. 656 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:03.160 Yeah, like if he has a thirty point game in 657 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.720 the game seven and they lose by five or something 658 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.880 in a close game, he is untradable at that point. 659 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:09.960 That's interesting. 660 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.960 I guess I never thought they really Yeah, it took 661 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.079 him to six, Yeah, it was nothing. 662 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.440 Then Kevin Duran scored fifty points. 663 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.799 I remember Lou Will and Pat Bev after that when 664 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.839 reporters were asking them about like how come you guys 665 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.960 could really stop KD, and they looked at each other like, 666 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:29.960 because he's k D. 667 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.559 Yeah, I promise that's why I said. That would be 668 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.440 my intervenience that they tried doublely hard. 669 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.880 Yeah, I got that. 670 00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:46.640 Yeah, any of the Chris Paul injuries. Again, there's a 671 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.640 lot of there's a lot of things. 672 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.920 To You're just like, you're I'm just imagining You're like 673 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.079 just somehow supporting that hamstring. 674 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.319 Yeah, I'm just doing it. Was just like Gi, I'm 675 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.599 pausing time. I'm standing on the court obviously with a 676 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.720 medical journal, and I'm like, Okay, how does this happen? 677 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.480 And I'm just small tweaks just so the weight distribution, 678 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.000 you know what I mean, Just so just so we're good. 679 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.680 There's like people think they see something when they wake 680 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.119 back up. It's like the penis at the end of 681 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.319 Fight Club. It's just a really quick frame and that 682 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:21.880 was Chuck supporting them. 683 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.319 And then I'm going and I'm back in the time. 684 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:25.119 The future. 685 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.279 That's all it could take, you know, yeah, the futures. 686 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.799 If you really believe in the butterfly effect, that's truly 687 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:31.480 all it could take. 688 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:32.079 It. 689 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.599 Really, this does change things, though, because if I change 690 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:40.240 anything before you know, I move here, maybe they become 691 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.000 some kind of juggernaut and I'm like, oh, this team 692 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.960 wants eight championships in a row. I don't know if 693 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.079 I want to root for this team. 694 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.359 All of a sudden, this show is about to cut 695 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.039 out because you just altered time to get to a 696 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.720 point where we're not even doing this right. 697 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:56.759 I wake up tomorrow living in Saskatchewan, I'll know that 698 00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.720 things have gone awry timeline wise. 699 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.480 Uh, what's we all know what mine is? What's the 700 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:11.360 worst take you've ever had about the Clippers that you'd 701 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:12.480 like to take back? 702 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.400 Wait? Is here the John Wall one? 703 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:16.320 You know it? Worse? 704 00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.320 Man, I've had a well, I've had a lot of 705 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:21.159 bad takes. 706 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.480 What hmmm, I want I want your worst? 707 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.599 What's what's most regrettable? I said John Wall, shooting him 708 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.320 bump thirty eight from three. 709 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.559 I think at one point I said, if Jamichael Green 710 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.840 hit certain situations, we should give him like a four year, 711 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.719 seventy million dollar contract. I think that was probably my worst. 712 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.880 Oh no, I had my worst take at one point 713 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.639 when the this was even before I think the lew 714 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.440 and Tres pick and roll was going crazy. I said 715 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.400 that the Clippers should just give Tres a lifetime contract 716 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.000 for one hundred million dollars, which, if you think about 717 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.199 the math for it at the time, yeah, is not 718 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.719 that much money per year. No, that's probably my worst 719 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.440 take that I I would. I don't. I'm a pretty 720 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.880 easy going Clippers person. I'm like, yeah, it was a 721 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.440 bad take. Whatever I think. I vehemently defended that one 722 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:13.079 at one point. 723 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.400 I mean, a Jerry Buss like deal with Magic Johnson 724 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.760 that would have aged very well. Now, unfortunately he's been 725 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.599 hurt recently. But we loved Montrez at the time before 726 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:24.599 we went to the Lakers. 727 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.039 Look at our backup centers since Tres. Yeah, not exactly. 728 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.679 It's exactly running the best pick and roll of all time. 729 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.480 He and James Harden in the pick and roll. 730 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.800 I mean they were in Houston together for a second, 731 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:48.480 but Tres wasn't playing much. Will you have any Uh. 732 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.920 Come on, I'm racking my brain here. 733 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:56.920 I'm just trying to think it's something I mean I said, 734 00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:58.840 but was going to be great. He's been great. 735 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:00.599 We're not doing good. 736 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.920 I said, this is our year. Get back to me. 737 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:12.679 Wait wait, wait, no comment. No, that's good to age 738 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.840 gracefully too, of course. 739 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.400 Uh make sure you bookmark this one. 740 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:21.679 Sorry year, clip it, clip it, chat clip it. 741 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.119 So we talked about I think off the top or 742 00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.519 behind the scenes. It's so Tany's second bobblehead giveaway, and 743 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.480 people were there. I think some were there eleven before 744 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:35.960 the sun was up eleven. 745 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.119 Yeah, the late the crazy I was eleven. 746 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.079 Do you think the sun doesn't come up before eleven? 747 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.159 Sometimes depends on how it's feeling. Well, First of all, 748 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.320 the sun is flat. I'm on this new wave that 749 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.280 the Sun is flat, not the Earth. 750 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.440 Earth und That's what smash Mouth meant by walking on 751 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:54.440 the sun. 752 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.719 Can you walk on the sun, bro, It's not flat. 753 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.960 You can't walk on a damn yoga ball, you know 754 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.119 what I meant. 755 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:11.199 The O Tommy bobbleheads are out second version, and they're 756 00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.159 a hot ticket item right now. In fact, some people 757 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.800 have multiple tickets just so they can go there and 758 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.159 get multiple bobble heads and not even stay for the 759 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:19.639 ball game. 760 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.239 As we were talking about earlier, Chef. They're not even 761 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:22.880 there for that. 762 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.880 They're just there to go on to eBay, where some 763 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.840 of them are being priced at twelve thousand dollars. If 764 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.880 you have one of the rare gold ones. There's only 765 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.719 two thousands of those ones, we hear, so if. 766 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:39.639 You should step in he buys them all like that, 767 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:41.400 it'd be like that it'd be like the Thing from 768 00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:44.679 Holes where he gets convicted for stealing the shoes from Uh, 769 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:45.960 well he didn't. 770 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:47.920 Really do it. He gets wrongfully convicted for stealing the 771 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.599 shoes from the charity thing and the and the player says, 772 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.159 you're no fan of mine. Oh, Tani needs to do that. 773 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:55.719 I like that. 774 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.920 I want to keep I want to keep the creativity 775 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.280 and the laughs going here by asking you if you 776 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.119 were in charge of designing a bobblehead for one Clipper, 777 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.800 who would it be this season? 778 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.360 Could there be a prop involved? Oughtani's got his dog? 779 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:13.920 Who are you going with? 780 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:15.039 Who's the guy? 781 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.519 Damn? This season? 782 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.400 Long hairs and vikingman. 783 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:28.199 Dude that is sick. Viking Zoo Dude. Viking Zoo would 784 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:33.440 be so rad. That's a great answer. 785 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.480 That sounds like the old nigitroll figures I had where 786 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.400 they just ran out of ideas and were like, all right, 787 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.199 Donna Tello in an astronaut uniform, sell it. 788 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.400 So this wouldn't be a bibblehead. But Will and I 789 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.760 have had a running joke for a I think the 790 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.400 whole time Kwai has been on the Clippers that they 791 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.280 should give away Hulk hands. But they're Kawhi hands to 792 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.599 the whole crowd. So everyone just has giant Kawhi hands 793 00:38:59.039 --> 00:38:59.679 in the crowd. 794 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.159 That or that's a good giveaway. 795 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:10.079 Or Steve Ballmer hyper realistic masks seventeen thousand people in 796 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.679 hyper realistic Steve Ballmer mask. You're you're You're not You're 797 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.320 not shooting your average from three. That's all I'm saying. 798 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.000 Okay, those are your guys. 799 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:27.480 Or wait, oh sorry, one more. PJ Tucker and a 800 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.400 recliner using a rotary phone to call a media member. 801 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.880 That's what I was looking for, Ding Ding ting Ring 802 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:36.440 Ring Ring. 803 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.920 He's got a baking over him his lap because he's 804 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.360 not playing, but he's he's TV dinner rotor. 805 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.480 What I'm out in a phone booth like he's dropping 806 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.679 a dive on. So he's got some really real hardcore intel. 807 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:51.920 The shoes are cool, he has cool shoes on. 808 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:53.679 He's a c I. 809 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.679 But he's telling Jana's car why he should have twenty 810 00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.400 five minutes per game. It's what he's doing. 811 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.079 PJ Tucker right here has been killing everybody in practice 812 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.400 and they don't want him to show off tonight at 813 00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:05.760 the game. 814 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.719 Bobby Valentine, Uh, I want Kawhi. This is like a 815 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.800 play set. I don't even know if just a bobblehead, 816 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.920 but I want him in the Chevy Tahoe or whatever 817 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:24.280 it was, Jimmy Suv or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd 818 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:24.679 like that. 819 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.920 Or Kawhi with the wingstop coupons. 820 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.039 Oh, that'd be good too. 821 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.079 That'd be good too. Okay, there was some a little bit. 822 00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.639 I got one more. Do you guys remember the picture 823 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.800 from last season of Tylo turning around and looking at 824 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.760 someone in the crowd. Yes, no, a bottle ahead of 825 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:49.599 Tyler doing that would be so real. Ones will know 826 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.280 what I'm talking about. 827 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.400 All the time. What do you what are you talking about? Chuck? 828 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.280 Well, he was looking at something specific. It would just 829 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:57.440 be so funny. 830 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.360 I'm snipping this out, uh clipping all dude. 831 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:02.360 Speaking of Coach Lou. 832 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:03.280 That's why you did it. 833 00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.840 I know, good segue, good transition, Thanks for the lob 834 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.719 he comes out well. I guess it happened last week, 835 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.679 but om on ESPN reported that Coach Lou and got 836 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:18.400 some quotes from him. Is basically extra motivated because Paul 837 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.199 George is in Philadelphia and so it's lit even more 838 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.960 of a fire underneath him. 839 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:26.400 To prove the doubters wrong. 840 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.280 Talked about it on a Live earlier today. I want 841 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.519 to get your guys thoughts on this. Is that something 842 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.440 or nothing is that meaningful to you? Is that just 843 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.880 a nice blurb and optimistic stuff for Clipper Nation to 844 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.880 attach itself to or is there really you know, can 845 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.440 you really get up even more be more. 846 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.320 Motivated for this upcoming season? 847 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:49.760 I think you can if you're ty Lou. I mean, like, 848 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.360 you know, we know just how methodical his approaches. We 849 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.159 know that he would like literally kill himself doing this job. 850 00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.639 What was it two seasons ago where he had like 851 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.159 how many funerals and stuff that he had to miss? 852 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.280 Like he he puts it had to take a break 853 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.960 because he was like wandering around the streets at like 854 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.000 just thinking about Yeah. 855 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:16.039 I mean I would say, you know, like Tyleru as 856 00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.280 a coach is close to that, like gott to be 857 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.280 close to that, like maniacal almost Jordan level for how 858 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.880 how badly he wants to win and like how much 859 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.480 like how much head I always talked about like how 860 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.760 much headspace something occupies. I don't know, like how much 861 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.159 room Tyleru has for for other stuff, you know, like 862 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.360 for for for much of anything else. I hope he 863 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.880 does the Steve Steve job. He's got all one outfit 864 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.880 that he just pops on or whatever, which we know 865 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.159 we don't because we've seen we've seen the fits. We've 866 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.559 seen the fits. But anyways, so I think I think 867 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.199 it's possible. Uh, you know, motivated Tyler, I think it 868 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:52.880 could be our year. 869 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.880 I so I agree, I think it's possible. But I 870 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:03.199 also think it's kind of perfect collision of things to happen. 871 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.719 Right He's in Paris coaching the high I mean, you know, 872 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.280 some of the highest level of basketball you can possibly coach. 873 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.679 He's with his new lead assistant, coach Van Gundy in Paris, 874 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.000 who's a defensive guy too, so it's both these two 875 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.800 defensive guys. I think it's like, you know, I don't, 876 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.000 I don't know if he's working harder, you know what 877 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.760 I'm saying. But I think there is a renewed spirit 878 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.519 and I think that came from being in Paris with 879 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.039 JVG and just be like, oh, we can like bounce 880 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.599 stuff off each other, like let's do this. 881 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.440 The ESPN article said what he had like he had 882 00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:39.119 photos in his camera roll of like three hundred new plays. 883 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.119 Yeah, so I think that it's like I think that 884 00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.960 like work retreat, for lack of a better term for it, 885 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.880 has made him more hyped. And it's a good field trip, 886 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.360 great field trip. And you know, we all want to 887 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.199 prove I mean, if you're a Clippers fan, you want 888 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.320 to prove any press member wrong who isn't a Clippers 889 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.519 press member at all times, because we're always underestimated. And yeah, 890 00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:07.000 and Paul George sucks. So I think I'm adding that 891 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:07.559 in there too. 892 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.559 Can you imagine, I mean, let's just talk about this 893 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.639 for a second too, how hamstrung you were as a 894 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.719 coach with Paul George. And I'm not saying that Tyler 895 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.000 did not control the locker room. I'm not saying that 896 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.800 he didn't, you know, he wasn't able to run his stuff, 897 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.320 But I'm saying there had to have been limitations, and 898 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.840 beyond that, there had to have been a sort of 899 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.440 tenor to the locker room that you know, you have 900 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.159 to kind of dance around that you just kind of 901 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.039 have to dance around. And I'm not saying that as 902 00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.400 any side of like slight on Tyler Lou. I think 903 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.719 that he commands a locker room. I'm sure pretty well 904 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.480 we know how much you know leeway he'll give to 905 00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.960 vets and stuff, sometimes to his own detriment, but he's 906 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.000 like clearly a guy who knows how to manage personalities, 907 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.400 something that Doc Rivers I feel like didn't do very well. 908 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.760 But even still, like with somebody like Paul George who 909 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:56.960 was waffling constantly on what they want and what they 910 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.679 need and still somehow has so much sense and pull 911 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.119 in actual front office, you know things that to me, 912 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:11.440 it's impossible to believe that his coaching wasn't somehow inhibited 913 00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:12.480 by that presence. 914 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:14.880 Yeah, your star players like give me the ball, Okay, 915 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.800 I actually I don't want this anymore. 916 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:17.639 Why would you do that? 917 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:18.079 Okay? 918 00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:19.760 Why who told you to do that? 919 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:21.119 Who told you that? 920 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.199 It does seem like if anyone is the type of 921 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.639 guy and he played with MJ, you brought him up 922 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:33.599 with the Washington Wizards. I think coach Lou looks for 923 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:35.400 any perceived slight. 924 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.199 And uses his motivation. I really do, because. 925 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.760 Even with reporters sometimes there was a game last year 926 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.199 where someone brought up the Pelicans record against the Clippers 927 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.639 and what Zion's been able to do against them, and 928 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.440 I think you're responded with let me know what happens tonight. 929 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.519 The game. And then there was the game with Violon 930 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.920 Cunas where he hit all those threes, and I think 931 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.880 the next time we played the Pels he said something 932 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:04.679 like you like he remembered that. Yeah, yeah, no, he's 933 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.920 I'm excited. I think. Uh. I think a motivated Tyleru 934 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.159 is great. Not that he wasn't motivated last year, but 935 00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:13.480 I think he's just more amped up. He's feeling the 936 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:14.719 vibes from a good work retreat. 937 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.440 Do you think Kawhi has any added motivation? Not really 938 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.840 because of Paul George, but what will happened with Team USA? 939 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.440 Coach Lou did come out today and say and said, 940 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.039 Kawhi is gonna be ready for trading camp. We talk 941 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.079 like every day, we talk all the time. He's gonna 942 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:32.480 be ready. 943 00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:34.679 He feels good, he feels healthy. 944 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.400 All the time. I think, uh, I don't know. I say, 945 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.960 I nodded no, But I think that's only because his 946 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.719 motivation is always it one hundred and whatever percent that 947 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:46.280 he can get to. 948 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:47.920 Yeah. 949 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.760 Yeah, I think he's always locked in. I don't I 950 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.480 don't think anything's really phasing. 951 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.960 That I don't have like quotes or podcast appearances of 952 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.679 his to go off of, thank God, So I'm just 953 00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.920 assuming he's always at one thousand percent lock. 954 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.800 I also, like Tyler, brought up the thing that I 955 00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.360 always harp on, which is a full training camp with 956 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.000 the guys. I talked about this, I add nauseum last season, 957 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.239 like I, you know, we waited so long on the 958 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.800 Hardened deal, and it made sense. We wanted to get 959 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.320 something done, you know for assets that we found were 960 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.639 like acceptable. But you know, the big what if to 961 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.599 me for all of last season is like what if 962 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.599 they had had a full training camp together? Like what, 963 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.480 you know, what what could have been different if you know, 964 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.320 they didn't come out the gate without Harden, have some 965 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.480 you know, some ups with Paul George and then hit 966 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:37.159 that skid, which they obviously you know, turned around as 967 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.960 best as you could. But still part of me is 968 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.199 always going to wonder about that, you know, the last 969 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.000 two and three year and what it could have looked 970 00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.239 like if there if there had been a full training 971 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:47.159 camp with Champs Harden. 972 00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.840 I wonder if it would have taken given up Terrence 973 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.880 Man to make the move happen faster. 974 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:54.719 You know, I think it. I think it for sure? 975 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.559 Did I think that's why we saw so much press 976 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:57.039 about it? 977 00:47:58.599 --> 00:47:59.079 Yeah? 978 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.679 And then and you know, then PJ would understand his 979 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:02.480 role a little bit. 980 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.079 More to talk to the media, jel a little bit. 981 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.320 Collect so we could have saved a few bucks on that. 982 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.079 I don't know, l A T. 983 00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:15.599 Yeah, PJ. Pj's for sure asking his agent, He's like, 984 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.440 how do I get these carrot top gigs selling? Call 985 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.920 a TT like PJ? That was decades Again, I'm begging you, 986 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:24.760 begging you to get a new TV. 987 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:26.840 Is sprint still around? 988 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:29.239 All right? 989 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.320 Before we get out of here, let's pump up what's 990 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.880 coming on Friday because we have a Clips and Dip live. 991 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:35.920 I believe hang. 992 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.920 Out we do. But I do want to share. Uh 993 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:40.840 you said before the show we were going to talk 994 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.599 about our highest moments as like media people, and I 995 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:44.679 do just want to share. 996 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.000 No, just lowest. What do you. 997 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.159 Get that positive? Chuck Mockler ship out of here? So 998 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:56.400 I'm actually wearing the og Betoom Battalion shirt that we 999 00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.760 had designed by Eddie Maldon, who you should go follow 1000 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.599 and enjoy his arty the clippers Man. But getting to 1001 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.280 be a part of the batun Battalion creation with Will 1002 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.880 and Joseph I Award and Brian Cohen. It's like just 1003 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.199 generally one of the coolest things I've ever been a 1004 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.519 part of. And I don't think something like that happens 1005 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.199 for a franchise. You know, that isn't the Clippers. I 1006 00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.440 think we had that. I mean a batomb killed it. 1007 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.360 The people who listened to Clippers podcasts are incredibly dedicated 1008 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.039 Clippers fans and just seeing how that's like become a thing. 1009 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.480 Buttom has one of these shirts, which is also very cool. 1010 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:30.440 Shout out Brian Semen. 1011 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.800 Brian has said, buttoo Battalion Assemble. 1012 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.039 The Clippers marketing team tried to make their own shirts 1013 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.159 and they were not good, but I was, I don't know, 1014 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.119 I'm just proud of it. It's like a really cool thing, 1015 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.239 and it's basically from Will's belief in Batoom after that 1016 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.840 first signing and all of us just yeah, so that 1017 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.639 was That's probably my highest moment as. 1018 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.920 A media member. Same for you, Will, Yeah, yeah, I 1019 00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.760 mean definitely definitely that. 1020 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.320 The media room hot dogs or hey that's. 1021 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.199 All baby, Yeah, trying to eat keto in the media 1022 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:14.400 room sometimes I'm literally going to hot talk no bun 1023 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.039 like a fucking real freak. 1024 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:25.199 I'm trying to think. Oh man. Another weird one was, 1025 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.719 uh being in the locker room when Paul George didn't 1026 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.000 make the All Star that first year. Uh and Pat 1027 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.440 bev like went on a went on a rant. That 1028 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:38.320 was a wild one. 1029 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.159 Uh. 1030 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:45.519 Yeah, I don't know anytime, anytime, Uh we've gotten to 1031 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.920 interact with the like a listener or view or too. 1032 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.079 Like every single interaction has been great. 1033 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.440 One time someone thought I was Brian Cohen. I just 1034 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:54.880 went with it. So that was fun. 1035 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.679 How about we're getting that into a dome tour today clips. 1036 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.239 I was all right, there's a twur of like thirty 1037 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:03.840 people and they point us out. 1038 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.039 Yeah, that was pretty sick. Someone at work recognized me 1039 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.559 and I was like, please don't talk about. 1040 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.960 This, Oh, don't talk about five club. 1041 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.159 But we are doing a live show on Friday. You 1042 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:17.239 are correct about that? At them? 1043 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:19.079 What time we looking at. 1044 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.079 Five thirty post Meridian Beautiful. 1045 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:26.400 You guys should be there for that. Thanks to Chuck 1046 00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.800 and Will for being here for this here on Clippers 1047 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.599 Talk first of the YouTube ones, but they've been coming 1048 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:34.400 on with me before we were doing Clips and Dip. 1049 00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.400 They would come on with the post games sometimes on 1050 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.880 Clippers Talk. Oh yeah, and that was good Phil, instead 1051 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.000 of callers, you know, yelling at me about things being 1052 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.320 upset and me having a strike back. 1053 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.639 I was gonna say, let's not act like you're a neutral. 1054 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.360 Let's not act like you're Switzerland. 1055 00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.440 It's like it's like two callers. It's like Sean and 1056 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.000 Ingelewood and one other guy and that's it. Morrison Long 1057 00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.599 Beach always brings a positivity. And whoever you know Carl 1058 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.079 is using as his anonymous name what he calls him. 1059 00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.679 Tarlo Kart. I think he uses Tarlo Kart. 1060 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.639 He fools me every time. It's too slick with it. 1061 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.559 Thanks to you guys for watching. We'll be on Friday 1062 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.880 with another Clips and Dip on the Clips and Dip 1063 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.079 side for Chuck, my clip for William Updyke. 1064 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:22.960 I'm out of Moslin. 1065 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.400 This has been an another edition of Clippers Talk.