Speaker 1: Welcome in to Clips and Dip, I mean Clippers Talk.
Speaker 1: I'm Adam Oslin's second show of the day. Earlier today,
Speaker 1: If you missed it, I did a Clippers Talk live
Speaker 1: after that report that came out from OHM on ESPN,
Speaker 1: talking about coach lou and his time with Team USA
Speaker 1: and how he's extra motivated this season because Paul George
Speaker 1: left the Clippers. More on that coming up, but you
Speaker 1: see him. Let's introduce the guys you know him very
Speaker 1: well from the Clips and Dip podcast with myself. We
Speaker 1: got Chuck Mockler and Will Updike here for the first
Speaker 1: time on the YouTube side on Clippers Talk. They've been
Speaker 1: on Clippers Talk post game many times and will be
Speaker 1: this season as well.
Speaker 2: Chuck, We'll start with you.
Speaker 3: How you been I'm good. I was. I've been in
Speaker 3: line for the show. Hey, bobbleheads since six thirty in
Speaker 3: the morning, but I was. I'm happy that I made
Speaker 3: it here for this podcast. Excited to talk about the
Speaker 3: Clippers as always.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the Clippers.
Speaker 1: We will get to the Clippers for sure.
Speaker 2: Will Have you been good?
Speaker 4: Good? Yeah? How long has it been We've talked?
Speaker 3: Last Friday? Oh?
Speaker 2: In the text message, yeah earlier today.
Speaker 3: I do want to know, Adam, what's the body fat at?
Speaker 3: What's the quest to ten? Where are we at? You
Speaker 3: don't have to get hard numbers, but as someone who
Speaker 3: has watched the show, I understand.
Speaker 4: This is we need hard numbers.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you mine based on this.
Speaker 1: Shitty scale, the body composition.
Speaker 3: You got the RENFO, I got the RENFO. I did it.
Speaker 3: I did it yesterday. Fifteen point nine is what it
Speaker 3: told me.
Speaker 4: Ohow, he's lap, he's laughing at him.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't trust it. Though.
Speaker 1: That's better than what I got on the Dexas scan
Speaker 1: of my latest embarrassing TikTok.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't believe the rent. Dude,
Speaker 3: you're in way better like muscular shape than I am.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got sixteen point two in the Dexa, which I
Speaker 1: guess is the gold standard. I did pay fifty bucks
Speaker 1: for this. When it comes some measuring body fat, I thought.
Speaker 2: It used to be the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again in a month, and then
Speaker 1: it'll be about a month away from the Clipper season starting,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get to ten percent. Before October
Speaker 1: twenty third, when I take on the Phoenix suns it
Speaker 1: into adult so I think I can do it.
Speaker 3: Is there on the line if you don't.
Speaker 1: Just public embarrassment, even worse than the TikTok videos I've
Speaker 1: been doing, which are so stupid.
Speaker 4: You gotta go shirtless under the blazer opening night. Oh,
Speaker 4: if you don't make.
Speaker 1: It, that's fair, that's fair. Shame myself that way, look
Speaker 1: it off, fat, I am everyone point laugh. I'll do
Speaker 1: the walk of shame all the way from the Plaza
Speaker 1: Instia Arena like that.
Speaker 2: Oh be awful.
Speaker 1: Brian Seamou will laugh at me while he eats ice
Speaker 1: cream in my face for dinner. I mean, uh, okay,
Speaker 1: I have some interesting questions to ask you, guys. I
Speaker 1: guess based upon stuff we haven't talked about since we've
Speaker 1: been doing clips and day a little bit of the
Speaker 1: backstory regarding how we became fans. I don't normally like
Speaker 1: origin stories. I don't want to hear about Uncle Ben
Speaker 1: again dying. I don't want to hear about Batman's parents dying,
Speaker 1: or see it by Sack Snyder this time and how
Speaker 1: he wants to do that scene. But in this case,
Speaker 1: I do want to know how and why you became
Speaker 1: Clippers fans from Montana?
Speaker 2: Will We'll start with you.
Speaker 4: My uncle Don called me on the phone and he
Speaker 4: was like, I've just I've acquired a team. I've got
Speaker 4: a crazy idea. They're in San Diego right now, and
Speaker 4: I said, where the hell is San Diego. I'm in
Speaker 4: coldsor at Montana. He says, but I'm gonna move him
Speaker 4: to Los Angeles. And I was like that, I've heard
Speaker 4: of that. Seems that seems better. I've heard of that.
Speaker 2: How's your uncle doing?
Speaker 4: Inns Uh serious, serious, folks, folks, folks, I just do
Speaker 4: a terrible stand up. Okay. Uh So in Montana you
Speaker 4: get to root for whatever team you want. No one
Speaker 4: can criticize it. You know, I think that the pipeline
Speaker 4: to either Seattle or Denver teams is pretty strong, you know, I,
Speaker 4: you know, loosely like the Sonics, loosely like the Nuggets,
Speaker 4: eras of both that I like more than others. It's
Speaker 4: huge AI fan. So that was kind of like my
Speaker 4: my uh sort of basketball background. And then simultaneously, you know,
Speaker 4: I have the same sort of like underdog mentality as
Speaker 4: as the Clippers. I was you know, in sense for
Speaker 4: no reason that there were so many Lakers fans in Colstrip, Montana.
Speaker 4: Like you can't you can't just you can't just bandwagon
Speaker 4: the like you can't just bandwagon the most winning team
Speaker 4: of like of our generation. That's just like that, How
Speaker 4: is that fandom? That doesn't count?
Speaker 2: So I haven't earned this, Ryan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know I already had U. I already
Speaker 4: had a bit of an anti Lakers sentiment. Sorry to
Speaker 4: and you know that to Angelina. Sorry, I mean I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know more, save more, please.
Speaker 4: And then you know, uh, there was kind of like
Speaker 4: that period of early thousands of basketball where I think
Speaker 4: myself and a lot of people kind of you know,
Speaker 4: there was a bit of a tune out there, I
Speaker 4: feel like for a little period of time. Uh. And
Speaker 4: then I was in college. I was in college when
Speaker 4: Blake Griffin was at OU and I don't even follow
Speaker 4: college basketball, but it was inescapable man. He was everywhere.
Speaker 4: It was, uh, you know, it was Griffin Mania. So
Speaker 4: got a very catchy name that you know, they consulted
Speaker 4: me on that. Uh. And so yeah, it was hard
Speaker 4: to not get kind of swept up in that. And
Speaker 4: then you know, obviously he went to the Clipperson end up
Speaker 4: playing that first season, but uh, that pretty much submentded
Speaker 4: it for me. And then I moved to Los Angeles
Speaker 4: and it was like there, you know, there's no there's
Speaker 4: no turning back, like there was no other option. You know,
Speaker 4: it just seemed it just seemed like a natural fit.
Speaker 4: So I guess in some ways, I'm a bandwagoner to
Speaker 4: my credit. Though in my defense, you know how difficult
Speaker 4: I didn't have cable growing up. You know how difficult
Speaker 4: it is to watch a Los Angeles Clippers game at
Speaker 4: that period of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get any ship.
Speaker 2: I feel like that.
Speaker 4: I feel like the anti anti Lakers sentiment is enough
Speaker 4: for my for my Clippers bona fides. You can call me.
Speaker 4: You can also call me a band wagon. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You approved yourself. You are worthy of
Speaker 2: being a Clippers fan.
Speaker 1: Chuck, this start in a similar fashion. You jumped on
Speaker 1: the bandwagon with Blake Griffin.
Speaker 3: Well, I just won so much. Uh No, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, like I was familiar with obviously in like
Speaker 3: one with the Knuckleheads, it was like talk about another
Speaker 3: thing that so, uh, I'm from Western Montana, which is
Speaker 3: more populated than Eastern Montana, but still Western Montana, And
Speaker 3: so as someone who loved.
Speaker 4: Basically the same but with a beanie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most fan mountains and so like in
Speaker 3: the early thousands, if you listen to hip hop or
Speaker 3: anything like that, the knuckleheads were a huge movement. So
Speaker 3: I think I literally probably saw them first in a
Speaker 3: music video and then all the highlights where you could
Speaker 3: like download them off LimeWire or whatever.
Speaker 2: Were you watching what.
Speaker 1: Was it called a Perfect Score with Darius Miles the movie?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just a powerhouse performance. So I was, you know,
Speaker 3: I they were on my radar then, just because that
Speaker 3: was also a kind of basketball that you know, the
Speaker 3: basketball the knuckleheads were playing was full of a little
Speaker 3: more joy than the basketball that I was experiencing firsthand
Speaker 3: in Montana, where it was a rule when I was
Speaker 3: in high school that if you don't und it was
Speaker 3: a foul. You couldn't. Yeah, it was like a technical foul.
Speaker 4: Did you do teacher tell you that they saw somebody
Speaker 4: lose a finger with a wedding ring because of dunking.
Speaker 3: Yep. So like it was very anti I mean, steeped
Speaker 3: and basically racism. Why, like you couldn't play fun basketball.
Speaker 3: So that was in my head. And then my family,
Speaker 3: my mom's side of the family's from Oklahoma. So when
Speaker 3: Blake and Sam Bradford were I think the first two
Speaker 3: guys at a school to win a Heisman and the
Speaker 3: Naysmith Award, I think that was the first time that
Speaker 3: ever happened until Tebow and Noah. That was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, Blake being the man. My aunt just was
Speaker 3: losing her mind. Then he went to LA. Then I
Speaker 3: moved to LA. I think Will was here before me,
Speaker 3: and then I moved out like a half a year
Speaker 3: or so later, and then it was just like, well,
Speaker 3: fuck it, we're here, let's watch the Clippers.
Speaker 4: So we're here, I think in correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 4: but I think our first Christmas in LA, you got
Speaker 4: a gift of Clippers tickets, and I think that was
Speaker 4: like the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah what y're.
Speaker 4: Twelve twelve?
Speaker 1: Okay, so early lob City days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a blue Blake jersey that I still
Speaker 3: have with the red Los Angeles script. I love that jersey.
Speaker 3: The script. Oh yeah, the script is back. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so that that's where I and again same with and
Speaker 3: with Will, Like just in Montana, it was like you
Speaker 3: can choose whoever you want to be a fan of.
Speaker 3: So it was like I'm yeah, whatever, I'll be a
Speaker 3: Clippers fan.
Speaker 5: Do you go.
Speaker 3: And my mom hated the Lakers, which was a big part.
Speaker 3: My mom was a huge My grandpa was a college
Speaker 3: basketball player. He played in the pan Am Games, which
Speaker 3: is crazy, and so like basketball was big and my
Speaker 3: mom hated basketball. She hated Kobe Bryant because he would
Speaker 3: just win all the time. It wasn't some like obviously
Speaker 3: she respected his game, but she was like she loved
Speaker 3: Ai so that was obviously.
Speaker 4: She knew the game.
Speaker 3: I mean she had the hooper, not he knew the game.
Speaker 3: My mom knows the game. So it was like, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be this fan of this team.
Speaker 3: And they were good again, Like what Will was saying
Speaker 3: people who I think if you move from Montana in LA,
Speaker 3: you do have some kind of delusional underdog part of
Speaker 3: your brain. So it was like, I can't move here
Speaker 3: and become a Lakers fan because that also felt gross.
Speaker 3: And as someone who enjoys live sports, being able to
Speaker 3: afford to go to games does lead me to be
Speaker 3: fan of a team, and they were a lot easier
Speaker 3: and still are a lot easier to go forward than the Lakers.
Speaker 3: No knock on the Lakers if you can charge a
Speaker 3: charge it, but that's where I was at at the time,
Speaker 3: and never wavered.
Speaker 1: I think we're all similar in one respect that we
Speaker 1: gravitated towards the Clippers because of maybe a counter culture,
Speaker 1: anti Laker type of mentality because I was from NorCal,
Speaker 1: you know, Sacrae, small, small time team I did, they
Speaker 1: almost left, and I was a hardcore Kings fan. But
Speaker 1: when I was really young, I did like the Lakers
Speaker 1: because I love Magic Johnson and the Kings did nothing
Speaker 1: for so long, late eighties, early nineties. I think the
Speaker 1: first time they made the playoffs in my lifetime was
Speaker 1: like ninety six maybe, and they lost in three games
Speaker 1: or whatever it was in the first round.
Speaker 2: Mitch Richmond the.
Speaker 1: Rock, those guys, and I adored them. But if I
Speaker 1: wanted to watch playoff basketball and go further into the season,
Speaker 1: I had to have another team. And sometimes when you're
Speaker 1: a kid, colors or a smile.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can do it for you.
Speaker 1: The Lakers were these beautiful gold jerseys and Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: just looked like this fun, loving point guard that shared
Speaker 1: the ball, was a great leader.
Speaker 2: I love the guy that played him a winning time.
Speaker 2: Magic was my favorite player ever, just the way he played.
Speaker 4: You know, were you also a Warriors fan at some point?
Speaker 3: Were you?
Speaker 4: Have you been a fan of every single California team
Speaker 4: or no?
Speaker 1: No, no. I was never on with the Warriors, even
Speaker 1: though my dad tried to convert me because he lived
Speaker 1: in San Francisco back when they won with Rick Berry
Speaker 1: back in the day. But never a golden guy. To
Speaker 1: be fair, they also were really bad around that time.
Speaker 3: The Killers still I mentioned still time.
Speaker 2: Uh there's there's still time.
Speaker 1: But I would feel the same way that I feel
Speaker 1: about Laker felt about Lakers fans back then, like it
Speaker 1: was so easy.
Speaker 2: When the Kobe Shaq era came around, I just didn't
Speaker 2: like them. I liked Shaq when I was very young
Speaker 2: in Orlando.
Speaker 1: I thought he was funny, and then you grow up
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this guy's just.
Speaker 3: Well and they kill your team. At the time, it
Speaker 3: was like they just kill whatever team you're rooting for.
Speaker 3: You're like, all right, well, I can't like the guy.
Speaker 3: Can respect him, but I can't like the guy who's
Speaker 3: kicking the shit out of my team.
Speaker 1: Well, my sister was a Bulls fan from Sacramento because
Speaker 1: they were always winning and she loved Michael Jordan. And
Speaker 1: then when they beat the Lakers in ninety one the finals,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm crying and cared so much, and she's.
Speaker 2: Just like, whatever, cool, we won again type thing.
Speaker 1: They really that was the first time they had won
Speaker 1: with them j But you know, she had the Bulls
Speaker 1: starter jacket, so that bugged me, and I think I
Speaker 1: was just starting to, you know, form this mindset of
Speaker 1: I don't like the team that's on top.
Speaker 2: My sister liked the Bulls and MJ.
Speaker 1: I didn't like MJ because of that, and I certainly
Speaker 1: didn't like the Lakers and the Hollywood type of feel
Speaker 1: they had with the Kobe and Shaq era and how
Speaker 1: it was almost celebrated with the infighting. Oh but we
Speaker 1: went anyways type thing. It was just like, I want
Speaker 1: to root for guys I like, and I really love
Speaker 1: that King's team in the early two thousands. That is
Speaker 1: my that is my old time, you know, favorite team
Speaker 1: outside of some of these Clippers teams.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and two Kings, you know, I followed them.
Speaker 2: I was so die hard.
Speaker 1: I I spent a lifetime on that series.
Speaker 2: In two thousand, you're.
Speaker 3: So you have a Dick Bavetta Lakers jersey. You're such
Speaker 3: a diehard, which I still don't understand is not a
Speaker 3: more insane I don't know. That is like one of
Speaker 3: the It's an iconic Kings fan move. I feel like we.
Speaker 1: Wore my buddy. I bought him the Bob Delaney jersey
Speaker 1: because he bred. That Game six in two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, is one of the more
Speaker 1: scrutinized games for bad officiating in the history of sports.
Speaker 1: The Lakers got twenty seven free throws in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of that game. Scott Pollard filed out in ten
Speaker 1: minutes in that game, and the Lakers had to win
Speaker 1: to extend the series to go back and have a
Speaker 1: Sunday game on NBC in Sacramento. In Game seven, Wow,
Speaker 1: nothing at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Some ref went to jail for something,
Speaker 2: but Tim Donnie actually wasting that series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a rogue referee, even though he was calling Scott
Speaker 1: Foster a four and after every game. That's no story
Speaker 1: for another day. I don't think Scott Foster was involved
Speaker 1: in anything. But at that time, you know, I was
Speaker 1: so upset and spent so much time because then I
Speaker 1: coming to college down here, I'm at my old university,
Speaker 1: Bible Institute of Los Angeles. I'm arguing the basketball team NAIA.
Speaker 2: Or something league. I didn't really want many games.
Speaker 1: But I'm taking all this yeah incoming from Lakers fans,
Speaker 1: and I'm fighting in the forums of BIOLA.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah clubs or something that's.
Speaker 1: Is bord fighting all day long because the series had
Speaker 1: just happened by the time I get there, and that
Speaker 1: only crystallized my fandom for the Kings and hatred for
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers, so I could never be a
Speaker 1: Lakers fan like you guys.
Speaker 2: And then I went to a Clippers Kings game around
Speaker 2: that time. It was two thousand and three, so it's
Speaker 2: the next season. Somebody drove by.
Speaker 1: It was a friend, but he randomly was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, won't take us to the Clippers games?
Speaker 2: And I were like, yeah, we'll go to the basketball game.
Speaker 2: Who are they playing? The Kings of dope, We're gonna
Speaker 2: see the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because at that game, during a
Speaker 1: time out, you know, they'd have some fun on the
Speaker 1: Jumbo Tron. They were comparing I don't know if the
Speaker 1: second Adam's Family movie was out, they were doing some
Speaker 1: promotion for that, but they were showing like one of
Speaker 1: the characters from that and then comparing them to a player.
Speaker 1: And they showed who was the bald guy in the.
Speaker 6: Uncle That sounds right, Yeah, they showed him and then
Speaker 6: they did a side by side juxtaposition with key On
Speaker 6: Clark of the Sacramento Kings on the Jumbo trod and
Speaker 6: he flipped it off.
Speaker 1: The bringest middle finger I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: He was fined fifty thousand dollars. You can find this report,
Speaker 2: but I was like, it was like for a guy that.
Speaker 1: Was, I don't know, making two million dollars a year
Speaker 1: or something like that back then, maybe less good player.
Speaker 1: But I always liked the Clippers because anti Lakers stuff,
Speaker 1: and also like you the knuckleheads. I saw a game
Speaker 1: at Arco one time where all Darius Miles did pregame
Speaker 1: was shoot half court shots while everybody else is in
Speaker 1: the layup line. It was just like, awesome girl.
Speaker 3: Was supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1: I had a ton of love for those guys and
Speaker 1: the six team. I wanted them to play the Lakers
Speaker 1: so bad because I felt like they would have beat them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they would have. They easily could have beaten
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. And from there I followed them more closely,
Speaker 1: and then obviously being involved with the team, you become
Speaker 1: more of a fan, you have a rooting interest.
Speaker 2: And all that. But I genuinely love it.
Speaker 1: You know, I do a lot of podcasts right now
Speaker 1: just because I can't stop thinking about the damn Clippers.
Speaker 2: And it's great, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys for sharing that. Could
Speaker 1: we talk more about our dislike or disdain from Laker
Speaker 1: fans and the makeup of them and why we.
Speaker 3: Can't stand them.
Speaker 2: I just it's so strange to me.
Speaker 1: How do you jump on a team and get any
Speaker 1: fulfillment from that when they like just are about to
Speaker 1: win the championship. So my buddy like became a Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos fan when they were in that Super Bowl against
Speaker 1: the Packers. Like, as it's going along, he's like, that's
Speaker 1: my team.
Speaker 3: What he's switching He's switching shirts. He's taking a shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, John always my favorite player, ever, as he's about
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't give a lot of credit to that.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any deep cut Clipper players, like
Speaker 1: when we say ironically Clipper legend.
Speaker 2: For Mike Muscala and guys like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe someone who actually played a few games, But do
Speaker 1: you have any of those guys in the past that
Speaker 1: helps solidify your fandom that you just really love more
Speaker 1: obscure Clippers.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's probably me Los for me
Speaker 4: because that was like, this was like pre even pre
Speaker 4: locked on Clippers. Charles and I had a different podcast
Speaker 4: before that, and we were very excited about me. Yeah, like,
Speaker 4: that's one that will always stick to me. What's the
Speaker 4: he has the Star Wars bopplehead that I think is one.
Speaker 3: Of the that's at my office. I have that at
Speaker 3: my office right now.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: Little magic he had.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of really exciting games. He wasn't
Speaker 1: he wasn't terrible. He had the plantar fascion.
Speaker 2: I just going on, he.
Speaker 3: Was the worst offender I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: Willie Green, for some reason, popped out into my head
Speaker 3: as a guy who I was just like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: kind of like how this guy plays basketball didn't exactly
Speaker 3: translate to a bunch of wins.
Speaker 4: Uhke for sure, just because he was such a.
Speaker 3: Good guy in the locker room, dude, Jamichael Green. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and these are yeah again this is more recent stuff
Speaker 3: from when like yeah, actual contact with them so like
Speaker 3: that like elevated it to a level of like I
Speaker 3: mean when dude the bench mob with like Barnes and
Speaker 3: that stuff like that. That was a cool time when
Speaker 3: it was like they were kind of you know, they
Speaker 3: bring in the bench and it was not as Hollywood
Speaker 3: as the starting five or whatever. Like I I liked.
Speaker 3: I liked Matt Barnes the Clipper too.
Speaker 4: Camp.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, was that fight that almost broke out and he
Speaker 1: had like hold Blake back or Blake had to hold
Speaker 1: him back.
Speaker 2: There was a great photo from it. I remember, I
Speaker 2: forget who was who it was against, but Matt Barnes
Speaker 2: obviously about that life as Daric Fisher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no shit, But yeah, those guys are probably like
Speaker 3: the minor ones that I probably liked the most.
Speaker 1: I had a ton of love one of my favorite
Speaker 1: players all time. He's not some lesser known player, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't a Clipper for long, but had a big impact.
Speaker 1: Sam Cassell, Sam I Am Cassell is one of my
Speaker 1: all time favorite players because his Houston Rocket days. I
Speaker 1: loved watching him, then I love watching him with Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: There's only one instance. Wait, was Sam Cassell the eight second?
Speaker 3: That was his second violation, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like my Sam Cassell.
Speaker 3: Not my Sam Cazelle.
Speaker 2: Two time champion, one of the most clutch players ever.
Speaker 1: I always felt like I think he had a quote
Speaker 1: one time in Slam magazine or something where they asked
Speaker 1: him if he was on our team Jordan and Kobe
Speaker 1: and these all time greats, and he was in this
Speaker 1: starting five, who would take the last shot? And he
Speaker 1: was like me, like he had this ridiculous confidence and
Speaker 1: mid range game and post up game for a guard
Speaker 1: that kind of has gone extinct in some ways.
Speaker 2: I love Sam Cassell.
Speaker 3: It was Sam Cassell. Damn it wash? Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 3: I thought that was Sam Cassell. They lost that game.
Speaker 2: So many big shots though somebody.
Speaker 1: That's just yeah, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Uh. The ewing play is the one I was thinking
Speaker 2: of that stood out to me. M not defending against Phoenix.
Speaker 2: I think it was I don't know.
Speaker 1: So some of these lesser known guys. I really liked
Speaker 1: Sentarious Thornwell bro.
Speaker 3: Oh Man. Yes, he was what an interesting locker room guy.
Speaker 3: One time we were at it was like the year
Speaker 3: after Cindarius was off the team, I think, and someone
Speaker 3: some player was facetiming with him. It might have been
Speaker 3: lou Will and like Syndarius was playing in the G
Speaker 3: League somewhere and we heard him talking and he was like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's like I got the gallo issue today
Speaker 3: and they're like what He's like, Oh yeah, I'm hurt.
Speaker 3: I'm doing the gallo. It was like a joke that
Speaker 3: to not practice. They were referencing it as the gallo
Speaker 3: for Danio Gallinari, which I think is like I'm giving
Speaker 3: him the gallow treatment, which I thought was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: I did have a receipt check with him one time
Speaker 1: because I was praising him.
Speaker 2: I think I said it at media day.
Speaker 1: I brought up the G League because one time Sendarius
Speaker 1: Thornwell said you don't.
Speaker 2: Want to go down to the G League.
Speaker 1: They're like wolves down there, and I brought it up
Speaker 1: to another player and for whatever reason, Sindarius was on
Speaker 1: Twitter and said, I never said that, and so I
Speaker 1: love him saying it, and he never responded to it,
Speaker 1: but I love the guy he was. He was one
Speaker 1: of those guys that I don't know, it's a good
Speaker 1: bar question, I guess for a Clipper fan.
Speaker 3: Dude. Well, we would always joke that Doc would always
Speaker 3: put Sindarius in for like an in mountains play or
Speaker 3: like the final free throw of the half, and like
Speaker 3: that would be like his only playing time, just because
Speaker 3: he would like maybe cose chaos. So we started calling
Speaker 3: him Syndarius Stints, which is always a good time.
Speaker 1: What is the best time you've ever had watching a
Speaker 1: Clippers game that doesn't include Game six to get to
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals and beating Utah. It could be
Speaker 1: something personal to you. You're just with the right friend
Speaker 1: right time you're watching this game. Maybe it helped you
Speaker 1: drive you deeper into your fandom saw a certain game.
Speaker 2: It could be anything.
Speaker 3: Will do you want to go? Because I think we
Speaker 3: might have the same answer now you go. Will And
Speaker 3: I watched the gigantic comeback against the Warriors at a
Speaker 3: friend's bar that he owned, and we were just it
Speaker 3: was very fun. We were living it up. I think
Speaker 3: we we caused a lot of people to leave that
Speaker 3: bar because it was not a sports bar. This was
Speaker 3: like a cool Hollywood bar type them.
Speaker 4: Red wine, Will was when you drink a little, a
Speaker 4: little too much red wine get a little rowdy.
Speaker 3: Well was drinking red wine brings.
Speaker 4: The demons out of me.
Speaker 3: I was drinking Gin and Tonics. And I think we
Speaker 3: did a we did a live like Winstain like at
Speaker 3: the bar, just being like the clamper, like let's fucking go.
Speaker 3: That was. That's up That's up there with some of
Speaker 3: my favorite just sports memories because that also, I mean
Speaker 3: that that that Lawlor call is. I'm getting goosebumps thinking
Speaker 3: about that Lawler call. I think it's the only three
Speaker 3: pointer that lander Sham had ever made for the Clippers.
Speaker 3: But I I'm never gonna what I can remember from
Speaker 3: that night. I've never I'm never going to forget.
Speaker 2: I don't think they come back down thirty one.
Speaker 1: We're taking thirty one shots boys, I.
Speaker 3: Mean yeah, we were halfway there. That was probably that's
Speaker 3: probably my favorite watching the clips memory because Will was,
Speaker 3: I mean Will we got to be acting that game six,
Speaker 3: which is freaking sick.
Speaker 1: So I remember the Blake dunkover Kendrick Perkins. Well, I
Speaker 1: was hanging out with this girl had a boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I should have been hanging out with her.
Speaker 1: And I just remember that not a by all over dog.
Speaker 1: It had a sneaker and yeah, uh closed door prayer
Speaker 1: meeting here, that's all.
Speaker 2: It's gone all nighter locking prayer.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: That dunk I must have rewound like fifty thousand times
Speaker 1: like that dunk over Kendrick Perkins, so so many times.
Speaker 2: It was just ingrained in my head.
Speaker 3: I could and the game breaker dunk I always called
Speaker 3: the game breaker dunk from Jamal to Blake where it
Speaker 3: does a meal that literally is a dunk you do
Speaker 3: in NBA street, Like, well, what's your sorry? I bet
Speaker 3: I was spouting off about the worst you have a
Speaker 3: one that's different.
Speaker 4: I mean no, it's really like it's gotta be that
Speaker 4: games Game six is out. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 4: will say one of the weirder ones was like the
Speaker 4: infamous I was I was in the building for the
Speaker 4: infamous Hardened step back where he dropped Avery Bradley and like,
Speaker 4: oh Wes Johnson, oh Wes Johnson, yes, yeah, sorry, where
Speaker 4: he dropped Wes.
Speaker 3: I forgot that, And it was like like every like
Speaker 3: the entire arena stopped in a way that it's like
Speaker 3: never stopped before.
Speaker 4: Like I thought the I honestly like, what did the
Speaker 4: whistle like go off for something? Because it was like
Speaker 4: it was that insane, like you saw it happen. It
Speaker 4: might have been a little show with there. I don't
Speaker 4: know that was actually Hardens a clipper. There's no way
Speaker 4: there was a show. There was never a shove. He
Speaker 4: didn't even touch the guy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: But like, just I've never seen I can't think of
Speaker 4: another moment in an arena where the entire thing like
Speaker 4: you could, yeah you could the cliche thing you could,
Speaker 4: you could have heard a pin drop. It was nuts.
Speaker 4: It was absolutely insane, and it felt like I have
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, from the time he hit
Speaker 4: the ground until got that shot off, it felt like minutes,
Speaker 4: Like it felt like so fucking long. I was like,
Speaker 4: that's why I thought there was like a whistler or something.
Speaker 4: I was like, is this ever gonna end?
Speaker 1: That was Wes Johnson going into the sunken place?
Speaker 3: You know? That was Yeah.
Speaker 1: Every time I saw him after that, the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that was a rough moment.
Speaker 2: I can't get that out of my head.
Speaker 3: I mean that would suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like, wes uh sure if you could intervene.
Speaker 1: There was a show in the eighties called Hour of
Speaker 1: This World and this girl that found out she was
Speaker 1: an alien would put her two fingers together like this
Speaker 1: and release alien power.
Speaker 2: Hours where she could stop time.
Speaker 1: But she could be walking throughout it, kind of like
Speaker 1: Quicksilver when he's moving around fast with the X Men.
Speaker 1: You know he's doing stuff while everybody else is standing still.
Speaker 1: If you could do that for any moment that is
Speaker 1: not Joe Ingles and the a cl Terror, Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3: Any of the other ones, how about anything, I'll do
Speaker 3: it for any of the other We.
Speaker 1: Don't know when when it happened with the other one.
Speaker 3: Time. I could go through every Thanks to Basketball Reference,
Speaker 3: I could look up every possession Kawhi Leonard ever play. No,
Speaker 3: I would I mean the eight second thing, maybe be
Speaker 3: the eight second violation from Sam.
Speaker 2: You just get behind Sam and push him forward and
Speaker 2: be like get across the court.
Speaker 3: Or I mean Blake punching the trainer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was tough.
Speaker 2: There were friends, though I heard there were better friends afterwards.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Will you got them moment you'd like to change with
Speaker 1: some divine, divine intervention.
Speaker 2: Or everything happened a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to choose from what suck.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest butterfly effect moment that you could change?
Speaker 2: You know, it really alter.
Speaker 3: Things for the Clippers.
Speaker 2: That's not the quiet.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a really funny one that I'll say
Speaker 3: after Will but.
Speaker 4: Montrez and Lou tried doubly hard to stop. Uh kd
Speaker 4: Clippers take the Warriors to uh to game seven? Uh,
Speaker 4: shay is it's not up he's not tradable. Sorry, it's
Speaker 4: not up for debate. He took the champs. He took
Speaker 4: the champs to like as a rook took the champce
Speaker 4: to to game seven. Uh, it's not up for debate.
Speaker 4: He's not tradable.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: I think obviously more than one single moment. But because
Speaker 4: he scored what forty eight or whatever something like that,
Speaker 4: maybe it was it was a huge game.
Speaker 3: It it might have been fifty.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: That was the press box game where we were just
Speaker 3: sitting there and Kevin Durant was just one step.
Speaker 4: I've never been more pissed at, like seeing such a
Speaker 4: feet of great It.
Speaker 3: Was like watching Mozart and you're like, well this fucking sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly exactly sucks happening.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that would be my There's multiple moments of
Speaker 4: intervention there, but yeah, who knows.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I would just pause time, go over to the scores table,
Speaker 1: take a few points off of Kevin Durant. Everybody blinks
Speaker 1: and they're like, huh, I thought he had more than
Speaker 1: just five.
Speaker 3: But I would go I got two funny ones. One
Speaker 3: just as to see what would happen. The second bid
Speaker 3: group to buy the Clippers that was second to Balmer
Speaker 3: had a group that was like Oprah and some other people,
Speaker 3: just to see what would happen. I think it would
Speaker 3: be very funny to see what would happen if Oprah
Speaker 3: on the Clippers. And the other one, I'm keeping Liu
Speaker 3: Will out of the club during COVID. I'm keeping him
Speaker 3: out of the matter. Getting the wings delivered.
Speaker 4: I think I think it was needed. I think the
Speaker 4: vibes would have been so much worse he hadn't been
Speaker 4: able to let a little steam off.
Speaker 2: You know, make with Jack Carlo.
Speaker 3: I would also make it so Jack Carlan never made music.
Speaker 3: Then that photo doesn't happen. Uh, what would you what
Speaker 3: would you stop time?
Speaker 1: Oh m, I might save Wes Johnson right now after
Speaker 1: thinking back on that play and how that might have
Speaker 1: affected him afterwards.
Speaker 2: I might stop that from happening somehow.
Speaker 3: You would stop V from recording?
Speaker 1: No, my god, that happened as it should. Uh, maybe
Speaker 1: it happens earlier and we.
Speaker 3: Have a record earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will's got me on this rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Now, if they somehow beat Golden State in that series,
Speaker 1: or like you said.
Speaker 3: Just take just go to seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if he has a thirty point game in
Speaker 1: the game seven and they lose by five or something
Speaker 1: in a close game, he is untradable at that point.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I guess I never thought they really Yeah, it took
Speaker 1: him to six, Yeah, it was nothing.
Speaker 3: Then Kevin Duran scored fifty points.
Speaker 1: I remember Lou Will and Pat Bev after that when
Speaker 1: reporters were asking them about like how come you guys
Speaker 1: could really stop KD, and they looked at each other like,
Speaker 1: because he's k D.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I promise that's why I said. That would be
Speaker 4: my intervenience that they tried doublely hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any of the Chris Paul injuries. Again, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of there's a lot of things.
Speaker 4: To You're just like, you're I'm just imagining You're like
Speaker 4: just somehow supporting that hamstring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just doing it. Was just like Gi, I'm
Speaker 3: pausing time. I'm standing on the court obviously with a
Speaker 3: medical journal, and I'm like, Okay, how does this happen?
Speaker 3: And I'm just small tweaks just so the weight distribution,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Just so just so we're good.
Speaker 1: There's like people think they see something when they wake
Speaker 1: back up. It's like the penis at the end of
Speaker 1: Fight Club. It's just a really quick frame and that
Speaker 1: was Chuck supporting them.
Speaker 3: And then I'm going and I'm back in the time.
Speaker 3: The future.
Speaker 4: That's all it could take, you know, yeah, the futures.
Speaker 4: If you really believe in the butterfly effect, that's truly
Speaker 4: all it could take.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: Really, this does change things, though, because if I change
Speaker 3: anything before you know, I move here, maybe they become
Speaker 3: some kind of juggernaut and I'm like, oh, this team
Speaker 3: wants eight championships in a row. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I want to root for this team.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, this show is about to cut
Speaker 1: out because you just altered time to get to a
Speaker 1: point where we're not even doing this right.
Speaker 3: I wake up tomorrow living in Saskatchewan, I'll know that
Speaker 3: things have gone awry timeline wise.
Speaker 1: Uh, what's we all know what mine is? What's the
Speaker 1: worst take you've ever had about the Clippers that you'd
Speaker 1: like to take back?
Speaker 3: Wait? Is here the John Wall one?
Speaker 1: You know it? Worse?
Speaker 3: Man, I've had a well, I've had a lot of
Speaker 3: bad takes.
Speaker 1: What hmmm, I want I want your worst?
Speaker 2: What's what's most regrettable? I said John Wall, shooting him
Speaker 2: bump thirty eight from three.
Speaker 3: I think at one point I said, if Jamichael Green
Speaker 3: hit certain situations, we should give him like a four year,
Speaker 3: seventy million dollar contract. I think that was probably my worst.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I had my worst take at one point
Speaker 3: when the this was even before I think the lew
Speaker 3: and Tres pick and roll was going crazy. I said
Speaker 3: that the Clippers should just give Tres a lifetime contract
Speaker 3: for one hundred million dollars, which, if you think about
Speaker 3: the math for it at the time, yeah, is not
Speaker 3: that much money per year. No, that's probably my worst
Speaker 3: take that I I would. I don't. I'm a pretty
Speaker 3: easy going Clippers person. I'm like, yeah, it was a
Speaker 3: bad take. Whatever I think. I vehemently defended that one
Speaker 3: at one point.
Speaker 1: I mean, a Jerry Buss like deal with Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: that would have aged very well. Now, unfortunately he's been
Speaker 1: hurt recently. But we loved Montrez at the time before
Speaker 1: we went to the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Look at our backup centers since Tres. Yeah, not exactly.
Speaker 3: It's exactly running the best pick and roll of all time.
Speaker 1: He and James Harden in the pick and roll.
Speaker 2: I mean they were in Houston together for a second,
Speaker 2: but Tres wasn't playing much. Will you have any Uh.
Speaker 3: Come on, I'm racking my brain here.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think it's something I mean I said,
Speaker 4: but was going to be great. He's been great.
Speaker 3: We're not doing good.
Speaker 4: I said, this is our year. Get back to me.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, no comment. No, that's good to age
Speaker 1: gracefully too, of course.
Speaker 4: Uh make sure you bookmark this one.
Speaker 3: Sorry year, clip it, clip it, chat clip it.
Speaker 1: So we talked about I think off the top or
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's so Tany's second bobblehead giveaway, and
Speaker 1: people were there. I think some were there eleven before
Speaker 1: the sun was up eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the late the crazy I was eleven.
Speaker 4: Do you think the sun doesn't come up before eleven?
Speaker 3: Sometimes depends on how it's feeling. Well, First of all,
Speaker 3: the sun is flat. I'm on this new wave that
Speaker 3: the Sun is flat, not the Earth.
Speaker 1: Earth und That's what smash Mouth meant by walking on
Speaker 1: the sun.
Speaker 3: Can you walk on the sun, bro, It's not flat.
Speaker 3: You can't walk on a damn yoga ball, you know
Speaker 3: what I meant.
Speaker 1: The O Tommy bobbleheads are out second version, and they're
Speaker 1: a hot ticket item right now. In fact, some people
Speaker 1: have multiple tickets just so they can go there and
Speaker 1: get multiple bobble heads and not even stay for the
Speaker 1: ball game.
Speaker 2: As we were talking about earlier, Chef. They're not even
Speaker 2: there for that.
Speaker 1: They're just there to go on to eBay, where some
Speaker 1: of them are being priced at twelve thousand dollars. If
Speaker 1: you have one of the rare gold ones. There's only
Speaker 1: two thousands of those ones, we hear, so if.
Speaker 7: You should step in he buys them all like that,
Speaker 7: it'd be like that it'd be like the Thing from
Speaker 7: Holes where he gets convicted for stealing the shoes from Uh,
Speaker 7: well he didn't.
Speaker 4: Really do it. He gets wrongfully convicted for stealing the
Speaker 4: shoes from the charity thing and the and the player says,
Speaker 4: you're no fan of mine. Oh, Tani needs to do that.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: I want to keep I want to keep the creativity
Speaker 2: and the laughs going here by asking you if you
Speaker 2: were in charge of designing a bobblehead for one Clipper,
Speaker 2: who would it be this season?
Speaker 1: Could there be a prop involved? Oughtani's got his dog?
Speaker 1: Who are you going with?
Speaker 2: Who's the guy?
Speaker 3: Damn? This season?
Speaker 4: Long hairs and vikingman.
Speaker 3: Dude that is sick. Viking Zoo Dude. Viking Zoo would
Speaker 3: be so rad. That's a great answer.
Speaker 1: That sounds like the old nigitroll figures I had where
Speaker 1: they just ran out of ideas and were like, all right,
Speaker 1: Donna Tello in an astronaut uniform, sell it.
Speaker 3: So this wouldn't be a bibblehead. But Will and I
Speaker 3: have had a running joke for a I think the
Speaker 3: whole time Kwai has been on the Clippers that they
Speaker 3: should give away Hulk hands. But they're Kawhi hands to
Speaker 3: the whole crowd. So everyone just has giant Kawhi hands
Speaker 3: in the crowd.
Speaker 4: That or that's a good giveaway.
Speaker 3: Or Steve Ballmer hyper realistic masks seventeen thousand people in
Speaker 3: hyper realistic Steve Ballmer mask. You're you're You're not You're
Speaker 3: not shooting your average from three. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, those are your guys.
Speaker 3: Or wait, oh sorry, one more. PJ Tucker and a
Speaker 3: recliner using a rotary phone to call a media member.
Speaker 2: That's what I was looking for, Ding Ding ting Ring
Speaker 2: Ring Ring.
Speaker 3: He's got a baking over him his lap because he's
Speaker 3: not playing, but he's he's TV dinner rotor.
Speaker 1: What I'm out in a phone booth like he's dropping
Speaker 1: a dive on. So he's got some really real hardcore intel.
Speaker 3: The shoes are cool, he has cool shoes on.
Speaker 2: He's a c I.
Speaker 3: But he's telling Jana's car why he should have twenty
Speaker 3: five minutes per game. It's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: PJ Tucker right here has been killing everybody in practice
Speaker 2: and they don't want him to show off tonight at
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Bobby Valentine, Uh, I want Kawhi. This is like a
Speaker 1: play set. I don't even know if just a bobblehead,
Speaker 1: but I want him in the Chevy Tahoe or whatever
Speaker 1: it was, Jimmy Suv or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: Or Kawhi with the wingstop coupons.
Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be good too.
Speaker 2: That'd be good too. Okay, there was some a little bit.
Speaker 3: I got one more. Do you guys remember the picture
Speaker 3: from last season of Tylo turning around and looking at
Speaker 3: someone in the crowd. Yes, no, a bottle ahead of
Speaker 3: Tyler doing that would be so real. Ones will know
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: All the time. What do you what are you talking about? Chuck?
Speaker 3: Well, he was looking at something specific. It would just
Speaker 3: be so funny.
Speaker 2: I'm snipping this out, uh clipping all dude.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Coach Lou.
Speaker 2: That's why you did it.
Speaker 1: I know, good segue, good transition, Thanks for the lob
Speaker 1: he comes out well. I guess it happened last week,
Speaker 1: but om on ESPN reported that Coach Lou and got
Speaker 1: some quotes from him. Is basically extra motivated because Paul
Speaker 1: George is in Philadelphia and so it's lit even more
Speaker 1: of a fire underneath him.
Speaker 2: To prove the doubters wrong.
Speaker 1: Talked about it on a Live earlier today. I want
Speaker 1: to get your guys thoughts on this. Is that something
Speaker 1: or nothing is that meaningful to you? Is that just
Speaker 1: a nice blurb and optimistic stuff for Clipper Nation to
Speaker 1: attach itself to or is there really you know, can
Speaker 1: you really get up even more be more.
Speaker 2: Motivated for this upcoming season?
Speaker 4: I think you can if you're ty Lou. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: you know, we know just how methodical his approaches. We
Speaker 4: know that he would like literally kill himself doing this job.
Speaker 4: What was it two seasons ago where he had like
Speaker 4: how many funerals and stuff that he had to miss?
Speaker 3: Like he he puts it had to take a break
Speaker 3: because he was like wandering around the streets at like
Speaker 3: just thinking about Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I would say, you know, like Tyleru as
Speaker 4: a coach is close to that, like gott to be
Speaker 4: close to that, like maniacal almost Jordan level for how
Speaker 4: how badly he wants to win and like how much
Speaker 4: like how much head I always talked about like how
Speaker 4: much headspace something occupies. I don't know, like how much
Speaker 4: room Tyleru has for for other stuff, you know, like
Speaker 4: for for for much of anything else. I hope he
Speaker 4: does the Steve Steve job. He's got all one outfit
Speaker 4: that he just pops on or whatever, which we know
Speaker 4: we don't because we've seen we've seen the fits. We've
Speaker 4: seen the fits. But anyways, so I think I think
Speaker 4: it's possible. Uh, you know, motivated Tyler, I think it
Speaker 4: could be our year.
Speaker 3: I so I agree, I think it's possible. But I
Speaker 3: also think it's kind of perfect collision of things to happen.
Speaker 3: Right He's in Paris coaching the high I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: some of the highest level of basketball you can possibly coach.
Speaker 3: He's with his new lead assistant, coach Van Gundy in Paris,
Speaker 3: who's a defensive guy too, so it's both these two
Speaker 3: defensive guys. I think it's like, you know, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's working harder, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I think there is a renewed spirit
Speaker 3: and I think that came from being in Paris with
Speaker 3: JVG and just be like, oh, we can like bounce
Speaker 3: stuff off each other, like let's do this.
Speaker 4: The ESPN article said what he had like he had
Speaker 4: photos in his camera roll of like three hundred new plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that it's like I think that
Speaker 3: like work retreat, for lack of a better term for it,
Speaker 3: has made him more hyped. And it's a good field trip,
Speaker 3: great field trip. And you know, we all want to
Speaker 3: prove I mean, if you're a Clippers fan, you want
Speaker 3: to prove any press member wrong who isn't a Clippers
Speaker 3: press member at all times, because we're always underestimated. And yeah,
Speaker 3: and Paul George sucks. So I think I'm adding that
Speaker 3: in there too.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine, I mean, let's just talk about this
Speaker 4: for a second too, how hamstrung you were as a
Speaker 4: coach with Paul George. And I'm not saying that Tyler
Speaker 4: did not control the locker room. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: he didn't, you know, he wasn't able to run his stuff,
Speaker 4: But I'm saying there had to have been limitations, and
Speaker 4: beyond that, there had to have been a sort of
Speaker 4: tenor to the locker room that you know, you have
Speaker 4: to kind of dance around that you just kind of
Speaker 4: have to dance around. And I'm not saying that as
Speaker 4: any side of like slight on Tyler Lou. I think
Speaker 4: that he commands a locker room. I'm sure pretty well
Speaker 4: we know how much you know leeway he'll give to
Speaker 4: vets and stuff, sometimes to his own detriment, but he's
Speaker 4: like clearly a guy who knows how to manage personalities,
Speaker 4: something that Doc Rivers I feel like didn't do very well.
Speaker 4: But even still, like with somebody like Paul George who
Speaker 4: was waffling constantly on what they want and what they
Speaker 4: need and still somehow has so much sense and pull
Speaker 4: in actual front office, you know things that to me,
Speaker 4: it's impossible to believe that his coaching wasn't somehow inhibited
Speaker 4: by that presence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your star players like give me the ball, Okay,
Speaker 3: I actually I don't want this anymore.
Speaker 4: Why would you do that?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Why who told you to do that?
Speaker 3: Who told you that?
Speaker 1: It does seem like if anyone is the type of
Speaker 1: guy and he played with MJ, you brought him up
Speaker 1: with the Washington Wizards. I think coach Lou looks for
Speaker 1: any perceived slight.
Speaker 2: And uses his motivation. I really do, because.
Speaker 1: Even with reporters sometimes there was a game last year
Speaker 1: where someone brought up the Pelicans record against the Clippers
Speaker 1: and what Zion's been able to do against them, and
Speaker 1: I think you're responded with let me know what happens tonight.
Speaker 3: The game. And then there was the game with Violon
Speaker 3: Cunas where he hit all those threes, and I think
Speaker 3: the next time we played the Pels he said something
Speaker 3: like you like he remembered that. Yeah, yeah, no, he's
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I think. Uh. I think a motivated Tyleru
Speaker 3: is great. Not that he wasn't motivated last year, but
Speaker 3: I think he's just more amped up. He's feeling the
Speaker 3: vibes from a good work retreat.
Speaker 1: Do you think Kawhi has any added motivation? Not really
Speaker 1: because of Paul George, but what will happened with Team USA?
Speaker 1: Coach Lou did come out today and say and said,
Speaker 1: Kawhi is gonna be ready for trading camp. We talk
Speaker 1: like every day, we talk all the time. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be ready.
Speaker 2: He feels good, he feels healthy.
Speaker 3: All the time. I think, uh, I don't know. I say,
Speaker 3: I nodded no, But I think that's only because his
Speaker 3: motivation is always it one hundred and whatever percent that
Speaker 3: he can get to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's always locked in. I don't I
Speaker 4: don't think anything's really phasing.
Speaker 3: That I don't have like quotes or podcast appearances of
Speaker 3: his to go off of, thank God, So I'm just
Speaker 3: assuming he's always at one thousand percent lock.
Speaker 4: I also, like Tyler, brought up the thing that I
Speaker 4: always harp on, which is a full training camp with
Speaker 4: the guys. I talked about this, I add nauseum last season,
Speaker 4: like I, you know, we waited so long on the
Speaker 4: Hardened deal, and it made sense. We wanted to get
Speaker 4: something done, you know for assets that we found were
Speaker 4: like acceptable. But you know, the big what if to
Speaker 4: me for all of last season is like what if
Speaker 4: they had had a full training camp together? Like what,
Speaker 4: you know, what what could have been different if you know,
Speaker 4: they didn't come out the gate without Harden, have some
Speaker 4: you know, some ups with Paul George and then hit
Speaker 4: that skid, which they obviously you know, turned around as
Speaker 4: best as you could. But still part of me is
Speaker 4: always going to wonder about that, you know, the last
Speaker 4: two and three year and what it could have looked
Speaker 4: like if there if there had been a full training
Speaker 4: camp with Champs Harden.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it would have taken given up Terrence
Speaker 1: Man to make the move happen faster.
Speaker 3: You know, I think it. I think it for sure?
Speaker 3: Did I think that's why we saw so much press
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then and you know, then PJ would understand his
Speaker 4: role a little bit.
Speaker 3: More to talk to the media, jel a little bit.
Speaker 4: Collect so we could have saved a few bucks on that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, l A T.
Speaker 3: Yeah, PJ. Pj's for sure asking his agent, He's like,
Speaker 3: how do I get these carrot top gigs selling? Call
Speaker 3: a TT like PJ? That was decades Again, I'm begging you,
Speaker 3: begging you to get a new TV.
Speaker 1: Is sprint still around?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, let's pump up what's
Speaker 1: coming on Friday because we have a Clips and Dip live.
Speaker 2: I believe hang.
Speaker 3: Out we do. But I do want to share. Uh
Speaker 3: you said before the show we were going to talk
Speaker 3: about our highest moments as like media people, and I
Speaker 3: do just want to share.
Speaker 2: No, just lowest. What do you.
Speaker 3: Get that positive? Chuck Mockler ship out of here? So
Speaker 3: I'm actually wearing the og Betoom Battalion shirt that we
Speaker 3: had designed by Eddie Maldon, who you should go follow
Speaker 3: and enjoy his arty the clippers Man. But getting to
Speaker 3: be a part of the batun Battalion creation with Will
Speaker 3: and Joseph I Award and Brian Cohen. It's like just
Speaker 3: generally one of the coolest things I've ever been a
Speaker 3: part of. And I don't think something like that happens
Speaker 3: for a franchise. You know, that isn't the Clippers. I
Speaker 3: think we had that. I mean a batomb killed it.
Speaker 3: The people who listened to Clippers podcasts are incredibly dedicated
Speaker 3: Clippers fans and just seeing how that's like become a thing.
Speaker 3: Buttom has one of these shirts, which is also very cool.
Speaker 3: Shout out Brian Semen.
Speaker 1: Brian has said, buttoo Battalion Assemble.
Speaker 3: The Clippers marketing team tried to make their own shirts
Speaker 3: and they were not good, but I was, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm just proud of it. It's like a really cool thing,
Speaker 3: and it's basically from Will's belief in Batoom after that
Speaker 3: first signing and all of us just yeah, so that
Speaker 3: was That's probably my highest moment as.
Speaker 4: A media member. Same for you, Will, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean definitely definitely that.
Speaker 2: The media room hot dogs or hey that's.
Speaker 5: All baby, Yeah, trying to eat keto in the media
Speaker 5: room sometimes I'm literally going to hot talk no bun
Speaker 5: like a fucking real freak.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. Oh man. Another weird one was,
Speaker 4: uh being in the locker room when Paul George didn't
Speaker 4: make the All Star that first year. Uh and Pat
Speaker 4: bev like went on a went on a rant. That
Speaker 4: was a wild one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know anytime, anytime, Uh we've gotten to
Speaker 4: interact with the like a listener or view or too.
Speaker 4: Like every single interaction has been great.
Speaker 3: One time someone thought I was Brian Cohen. I just
Speaker 3: went with it. So that was fun.
Speaker 1: How about we're getting that into a dome tour today clips.
Speaker 1: I was all right, there's a twur of like thirty
Speaker 1: people and they point us out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty sick. Someone at work recognized me
Speaker 3: and I was like, please don't talk about.
Speaker 1: This, Oh, don't talk about five club.
Speaker 3: But we are doing a live show on Friday. You
Speaker 3: are correct about that? At them?
Speaker 2: What time we looking at.
Speaker 3: Five thirty post Meridian Beautiful.
Speaker 2: You guys should be there for that. Thanks to Chuck
Speaker 2: and Will for being here for this here on Clippers
Speaker 2: Talk first of the YouTube ones, but they've been coming
Speaker 2: on with me before we were doing Clips and Dip.
Speaker 2: They would come on with the post games sometimes on
Speaker 2: Clippers Talk. Oh yeah, and that was good Phil, instead
Speaker 2: of callers, you know, yelling at me about things being
Speaker 2: upset and me having a strike back.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, let's not act like you're a neutral.
Speaker 3: Let's not act like you're Switzerland.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like two callers. It's like Sean and
Speaker 1: Ingelewood and one other guy and that's it. Morrison Long
Speaker 1: Beach always brings a positivity. And whoever you know Carl
Speaker 1: is using as his anonymous name what he calls him.
Speaker 3: Tarlo Kart. I think he uses Tarlo Kart.
Speaker 2: He fools me every time. It's too slick with it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to you guys for watching. We'll be on Friday
Speaker 1: with another Clips and Dip on the Clips and Dip
Speaker 1: side for Chuck, my clip for William Updyke.
Speaker 2: I'm out of Moslin.
Speaker 1: This has been an another edition of Clippers Talk.