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<v Speaker 2>For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,

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<v Speaker 2>cancer Call two one two choices two one two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Prostate cancer very common. Men's cancer worldwide will double by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty forty Thirty five thousand men die here annually from

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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer. What to do? It's doctor Liderman with new news.

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<v Speaker 3>New data reveals testing reduces prostate cancer death by twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Men's skipping testing have forty five percent more death from

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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer. What to do? Come for prostate cancer screening

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<v Speaker 3>at Radio Surgery, New York with doctor Liederman. Easy to

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<v Speaker 3>save lives, reduce prostate cancer death, possibly yours or your

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome everybody. It's the Radio Surgery Show with doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,

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<v Speaker 4>New York's only Harvard trained, Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist

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<v Speaker 4>who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world

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<v Speaker 4>renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course

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<v Speaker 4>answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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<v Speaker 4>Studios in the heart of New York City, and now

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<v Speaker 4>please welcome doctor Leaderman.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Rob, and thank you Noan. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>tuning in today and every day. Every day we see patients.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, I take notes, every day I come to

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<v Speaker 3>the radio, and every day we try to learn together.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not selling anything, We're trying to encourage education and

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<v Speaker 3>better health care, and that's what we've been doing for decades. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about a man who is sixty

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<v Speaker 3>seven years old. He came to me years ago. He

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<v Speaker 3>had prostate cancer and he had had a glease in

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<v Speaker 3>six PSA fifteen prostate cancer years ago, ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and because of our very diligent treatment, we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to treat his prostate cancer even though it was a

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<v Speaker 3>higher risk, and it was a higher risk because of

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<v Speaker 3>that PSA. Fifteen PSA is prostatic specific energen NORMALST four.

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<v Speaker 3>Your PSA should be less than four. If it's more

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<v Speaker 3>than four, it's worrisome. Even it can be lessened, for

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<v Speaker 3>you can have prostate cancer less than for and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I like to follow the PSA velocity. So this

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<v Speaker 3>man was treated ten years ago with a prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>He did not want to have surgery. He knew with

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<v Speaker 3>his intermediate risk that he had about a sixty percent

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<v Speaker 3>chance of six SYS with surgery or standard radiation. With

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<v Speaker 3>US it's ninety percent. So he's treated ten years ago

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<v Speaker 3>for prostate cancer and he did great, he did fantastically.

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<v Speaker 3>He's cancer free ten years later, which is incredible itself.

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<v Speaker 3>And his sex life works, and his jurinary life works,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's so pleased about that. And then and then,

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<v Speaker 3>of course the prostate's in the palvis, and we encourage

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<v Speaker 3>people to get regular testing done. We know that people

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<v Speaker 3>that get screening for prostate and colon and breast on

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<v Speaker 3>the diseases live longer. We'll talk about that too, how

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<v Speaker 3>to live longer. There's a recent article in the Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street Journals as people are spending up to a quarter

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars to go to longevity centers. And we can

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot of longevity work here taking your own insurance, Medicare,

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<v Speaker 3>Medicaid usually, so you don't have to spend two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand dollars for longevity. So this man had prostate

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<v Speaker 3>cancer successfull ten years ago, still in remission. PSA is zero.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, how do you know the treatment is successful?

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<v Speaker 3>Appichie should be going down to zero and then staying down,

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<v Speaker 3>never rising. That's how you know the treatment successfully performed.

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<v Speaker 3>And we follow men for the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it's so important to follow up after radic

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<v Speaker 3>We don't advocate radical surgery because most men don't like

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<v Speaker 3>the results of radical surgery. Radical robotic surgery means the

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<v Speaker 3>surgeon goes in and removes the prostate. There's several different

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<v Speaker 3>ways of doing it. When is open, which is with

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<v Speaker 3>a knife in their hands, and now there's robotic with

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<v Speaker 3>a gizmo. Either way. For example, this man's success was

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<v Speaker 3>to be about sixty percent with us, it's ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>with radical robotic surgery. Ninety percent of men lose their

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<v Speaker 3>sexual function eighty percent or peeing in their pants, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they're shortening of the penis because when you remove

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<v Speaker 3>the prostate and urethra, the urethra the urinary tube goes

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<v Speaker 3>right through the middle of the prostate. So it's like

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<v Speaker 3>when a plumber, when a plumber removes part of a pipe.

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<v Speaker 3>The plumber has to bring the ends of the pipe

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<v Speaker 3>together to make that pipe work, and that shortens the pipe.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not endless pipe, just like there's not endless urethra.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when the prostate is removed by the surgeon,

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<v Speaker 3>the urethra is removed, that shortens the pipe, It shortens

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<v Speaker 3>the penis. So sad to say, in my experience, I've

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<v Speaker 3>treated thousands of men, about nine thousand men, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the largest experiences worldwide with prostate cancer. I could tell

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<v Speaker 3>that most men are never told about the side effects

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<v Speaker 3>of surgery. Many are very surprised. A lot of men

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<v Speaker 3>who have had surgery won't really tell other men the

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<v Speaker 3>side effects. Often men are embarrassed to say they're impotent.

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<v Speaker 3>Men are off embarrassed to say that they're leaking urine.

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<v Speaker 3>Men are often embarrassed to say that their penis has

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<v Speaker 3>been shortened by radical robotic surgery. It's another reason why

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<v Speaker 3>people come here. One is to get better quality of life,

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<v Speaker 3>and when is life itself, to have a better chance

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<v Speaker 3>to be cancer free. So this man ten years ago

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<v Speaker 3>came with a higher risk cancer. He was treated non invasive,

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<v Speaker 3>with no cutting, no surgery, no outpatient procedures, only out

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<v Speaker 3>patient procedures, no inpatient procedures. And then he got screening.

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<v Speaker 3>He had colonoscopy and he was found to have a

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<v Speaker 3>sigmoid cancer. The sigmoid is a part of the intestine.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think about your bottom, well, your bottom is

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<v Speaker 3>of course the anus, and from the anus goes up

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<v Speaker 3>the rectum, and then from the rectum is the sigmoid.

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<v Speaker 3>And this man had a sigamoid cancer, which is also

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<v Speaker 3>in the pelvis, and he came to me. I encourage

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<v Speaker 3>people to get colonoscopies, and he had a kolonoscary who

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<v Speaker 3>had a sigamoid cancer, and he wanted desperately not to

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<v Speaker 3>have surgery. He wanted to have only our treatment. He

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<v Speaker 3>saw a surgeon. The gastmeurologists immediately sent him to a

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<v Speaker 3>surgeon like a knee jerk reaction. But the patient came

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<v Speaker 3>to me because I had been his cancer doctor for years.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to me, says, it possible to do non

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<v Speaker 3>invasive treatment for my sigmoid cancer. He said he's adamant

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<v Speaker 3>against any surgery. And yes, we treated him. Though both

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<v Speaker 3>cancers are in the pelvic areas. We were able because

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<v Speaker 3>of our pinpoint treatment to treat the prostate separately ten

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<v Speaker 3>years ago and then five years ago treated the sigmoid.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's actually had two cancers in the pelvis, both

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<v Speaker 3>treated with radiosurgery, both treated successfully. There's no audance of cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>We could follow up tests, follow up blood tests, follow

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<v Speaker 3>up colonoscopy, and both cancers are intermission. I could tell

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<v Speaker 3>you he's a very happy person having had two cancers.

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<v Speaker 3>He had had actually blood in the stool when he

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<v Speaker 3>was diagnosed. He was seen by gastrologists. He's biopsy positive,

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<v Speaker 3>and he chose to have radiation only for his sigmoid cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>That sigmoid cancer was five centimeters in size and he

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<v Speaker 3>was losing blood. He wanted to have radiation, and he

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<v Speaker 3>had our treatment in the stereotectic frame, and he's done great,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's had no evidence of recurrent cancer, either from

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<v Speaker 3>the prostate treated ten years ago or the sigmoid colon

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<v Speaker 3>cancer which was treated five years ago. And many many

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<v Speaker 3>people come to us with colon cancers. You've had cancers

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<v Speaker 3>of most type, wanting to know if there's other options

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<v Speaker 3>that are being hidden from them elsewhere. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>the work that we do here at Radio New York

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<v Speaker 3>at thirteen eighty four Broadway. It's always best to meet

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<v Speaker 3>in person. Encourage patients to come in person with the

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<v Speaker 3>records for consultations. Some as people say, oh, I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>call you up and ask a question. Well, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like that. In medicine, it's better to see the documents.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you about ninety percent of the time

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<v Speaker 3>when I see a new patient, ninety percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>time the patient is not fully aware of the extent

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<v Speaker 3>of the cancer, or the type of the cancer, or

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<v Speaker 3>the findings that were already found before they came here.

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<v Speaker 3>And often not the best testing is being performed. We

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<v Speaker 3>like to get the best testing to know what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cancer it is and also where is the cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>So in cancer diagnosis there's two big questions, what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of ca answer do I have if it is cancer?

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<v Speaker 3>And number two, where is it? Is it only local

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<v Speaker 3>or is it traveled. That's why testing is so important,

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<v Speaker 3>and I see so many people, so many people, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>women with breast cancer who are diagnosed with breast cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>they get a mammogram and ultrasound, they get a biopsy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, automatically the surgeon is plending surgery on the

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<v Speaker 3>breast without looking to see where the cancer has traveled

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<v Speaker 3>or if it has traveled. Why do we fear cancer

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<v Speaker 3>when we fear cancer because cancer can travel. Cancer in

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<v Speaker 3>the breast is not confined to the breast people with cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousands die of breast cancer because the breast cancer can travel.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'd like to know where it is. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think informed, educated people want to know where is their cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>So often people seem to be rushed, rushed for chemo,

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<v Speaker 3>or rushed for surgery, or rush for whatever without getting

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<v Speaker 3>the best proper testing. Just this week, I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>man who had a lump on his arm and a

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<v Speaker 3>lump in a arm. He had a dermatologist and a

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<v Speaker 3>surgeon cut out the lump and turned out to be

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<v Speaker 3>a sarcoma. Sarcoma is a cancer of the connective tissue.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's lots of cancers. Most cancers are like breast

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<v Speaker 3>cancer or lung cancer of the glandular tissue. But then

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<v Speaker 3>there's cancers of the connective tissues of the bones, the fat,

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<v Speaker 3>the ligaments, the tendons, and these are called sarcomas, saar comas, sarcomas.

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<v Speaker 3>This man had a sarcoma. So his first doctor opened

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<v Speaker 3>up his arm, cut it out, and on whoops. In

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<v Speaker 3>medical school they used to call the surgeon's peak and shriek.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd peak and opened up the body and shriek. Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't expect this. Ah. So this man then went

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<v Speaker 3>to a super duper pooper hospital here in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>and another surgeon, supposedly expert surgeon on this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>cancer sarcomas of the arm, opened them up again and

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<v Speaker 3>cut out about a third of his forearm. About a

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<v Speaker 3>third of his fore arm was cut out. The doctor

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<v Speaker 3>did not do full testing. They did not look to

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<v Speaker 3>see if the cancer traveled again. Like I talked about

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes ago, sarcoma's loved to travel locally. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>they'll travel to lymphotes, but they love to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the lungs. This man had not had a scan of

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<v Speaker 3>his lungs and the cancer was left behind. So he

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<v Speaker 3>had two surgeries. Now cancer left behind. Now he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to another surgeon and another super duper hospital wants to

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<v Speaker 3>do more surgery. He's already lost about a third of

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<v Speaker 3>another third. So to leave a small amount of his arm,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously is going to be a major issue for

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<v Speaker 3>him for the rest of his life. There was cancer

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<v Speaker 3>left behind after the first surgery. There's cancer left behind

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<v Speaker 3>after the second surgery. Now the doctor's getting a MRI,

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<v Speaker 3>but he didn't ask for any contrast so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really make sense to get a scan of the arm

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<v Speaker 3>without getting contrast to better see the residual disease. And furthermore,

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<v Speaker 3>there's been no chest CT done yet either. Yet surgery

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<v Speaker 3>to me, we've got to approved from insurance company for

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<v Speaker 3>contrast MRI of the arm, for contrast tests of the

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<v Speaker 3>chest and PET scan as well forthcoming. We believe it's

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<v Speaker 3>always best to know what the extent of the cancer

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<v Speaker 3>is before he rushes it and having surgery elsewhere. He

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<v Speaker 3>was rushed for the first surgery. It didn't work, he

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<v Speaker 3>was rushed for the second surgery. His arm is very deformed.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have enough skin now to close the wound.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, the wound is still not closed and they're

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine what that would do to cosmetically and

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<v Speaker 3>functionally and already has a tightness of the arm because

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<v Speaker 3>want to remove another third and not having any knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>of an MRI or chest CT scan before being confident

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<v Speaker 3>about the need for the surgery, we do it the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite way. We'd like to know what kind of cancer

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<v Speaker 3>it is, where it is for this man, We've already

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<v Speaker 3>got approval of the best place in New York in

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<v Speaker 3>my view, for imaging a contrast MRI of the arm,

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<v Speaker 3>contrast scan of the chest, and the PET scan to

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<v Speaker 3>know where this cancer has traveled, if indeed it has.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the work we do, and we also offer

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<v Speaker 3>treatment that's non invasive treatment. We have a huge experience

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<v Speaker 3>treating sarcomas. We treat many common cancers, and we treat

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<v Speaker 3>many rare cancers. Why because so often standard radiation and

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<v Speaker 3>standard surgery and standard chemo, like in this man, he's

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<v Speaker 3>had surgery twice, including some of the biggest places around,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work left cancer behind. We have a huge experience

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<v Speaker 3>treating cancers, including sarcoma's with high success where we attack

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<v Speaker 3>the cancer and that's what we spoke to about treating

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<v Speaker 3>the arm without surgery, without losing another third of his arm.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the special work that we do every

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<v Speaker 3>day at Radiosurgery in New York, home of radiosurgery, body

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<v Speaker 3>radio surgery in a mess in America, Western Hemisphere, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course in New York. We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 3>We're super convenient in the heart of New York City

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<v Speaker 3>at thirteen eighty four Broadway, in thirty eighth Street, close

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<v Speaker 3>of our office. This is the work we do, super convenient,

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<v Speaker 3>with a huge experience, decades of experience, forty thousand patients treated.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is doctor Liederman here at thirty eighty four Broadway.

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<v Speaker 3>For you if you wish, just give us a coffee

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<v Speaker 5>Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery

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<v Speaker 5>didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.

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<v Speaker 5>Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their

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<v Speaker 5>caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing

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<v Speaker 5>innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug

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<v Speaker 5>We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or

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<v Speaker 5>surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices

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<v Speaker 5>two and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty

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<v Speaker 5>Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices two

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<v Speaker 3>It's doctor Leiderman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

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<v Speaker 6>You treated me. I had basil cell onto my cheek.

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<v Speaker 6>A buddy of mine went through the same thing that

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<v Speaker 6>looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.

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<v Speaker 6>This was on my face. I don't want any scaring.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 3>So you are hats and we're going to the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually in America there's three million skin cancers a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine percent of people are let down the primrose

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<v Speaker 3>path to have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you different.

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<v Speaker 6>From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were

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<v Speaker 6>very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>If Miss America comes up to right now, what would

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<v Speaker 3>she think about the results of your skin.

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<v Speaker 6>She would be able to keep her hands off. There

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<v Speaker 6>is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,

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<v Speaker 6>doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.

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<v Speaker 6>Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you

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<v Speaker 6>should go.

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<v Speaker 3>Any regrets, not at all. Call Doctor Leederman had two

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<v Speaker 3>and two choices. Thirteen eighty four Broadway most insurances, Medicare

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 4>Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the w R

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<v Speaker 4>Studios in the Hearts of New York were just a

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<v Speaker 4>few steps from the radiosurgery in New York Cancer Treatment

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<v Speaker 4>Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the

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<v Speaker 4>leading cancer expert, treat prostate cancer not invasively. He was

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<v Speaker 4>the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's the first in America and in the Western

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<v Speaker 4>Hemisphere with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liederman

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<v Speaker 4>at two and two Choices for a free informative booklet

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<v Speaker 4>and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back. I want to talk about a man who's

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight years old. He's single, has no children. As

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<v Speaker 3>PSA went from six to twenty six. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>biopsy about twelve thirteen years ago and the biopsy showed

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<v Speaker 3>pi in, which is a prostatic intropithelial neoplasm like a

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<v Speaker 3>pre cancer. He never had a repeat biopsy. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a no treatment and then he had a repeat biopsy

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<v Speaker 3>and this is twelve and a half years ago. Showed

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<v Speaker 3>a glease in seven cancer and at that time his

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<v Speaker 3>PSA was forty six, so a very high PSA forty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal PSA is considered it four. Like we spoke about earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>he can have cancer at any level. His PSA went

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<v Speaker 3>from six to twenty six to forty six. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a gleas in seven cancer. This is twelve years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He was seen by doctors. They did no scans of

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<v Speaker 3>his body. He had no treatment, no scans. He had

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<v Speaker 3>no pain, but he was urinating three times a night.

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<v Speaker 3>We offered a medicine to yournate better. His weight was

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<v Speaker 3>one forty three. Goes to gym and stable. He's fully active.

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<v Speaker 3>He was taking stool softeners for his bowel. It had

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<v Speaker 3>no blood loss. His arms and legs were fine. He

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<v Speaker 3>was taking medicine for high blood pressure. The Centeparl had

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<v Speaker 3>a clorthiaxide and for cholesterol. It had surgery on his hemorrhoids.

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<v Speaker 3>He had surgery on his heart, and he had no

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<v Speaker 3>family history of prostate cancer. But he had a larynx

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<v Speaker 3>cancer history and his mother and his brother had cancer

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<v Speaker 3>as well, so I examined him. He had enlarged prostate.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to me twelve years ago with a PSA

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<v Speaker 3>forty six gleas in seven cancer. We staged him up

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<v Speaker 3>so he had a very aggressive cancer with the PSA

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<v Speaker 3>so high, and he chose our treatment. He just did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to have radical robotic surgery. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do everything he could to keep his sexual life and

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<v Speaker 3>urinary life and his body intact. And now twelve years later,

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<v Speaker 3>despite having a PSA forty six gleas in seven cancer

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<v Speaker 3>high risk cancer, he is now cancer free. His PSA

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<v Speaker 3>is zero, he's fully intact. He's very happy to come

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<v Speaker 3>here for follow up. I check him up about twice

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<v Speaker 3>a year. He has my contact information day or night.

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<v Speaker 3>I encourage him, of course to get all the other testing,

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<v Speaker 3>including conoscopies and blood testing as well, and he does

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<v Speaker 3>that and he's been in great health. His PSA is

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<v Speaker 3>now zero. After our treatment twelve years ago for a

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<v Speaker 3>high risk cancer psa forty six gleas in seven. He

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<v Speaker 3>just did not want to have surgery. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>keep his quality of life. And that's what he's done

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<v Speaker 3>and he's doing great. Years later. My name's doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 3>and I talk about a patient I saw oh more

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<v Speaker 3>than a year ago. He came with a PSA of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one on finest Finestrite is a medicine some doctors

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<v Speaker 3>give to try to shrink the prostate, but it artificially

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<v Speaker 3>lowers the PSA. So his real PSA is forty two.

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<v Speaker 3>And he never had a biopsy. He never had a biopsy,

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<v Speaker 3>and we checked him out and he sent him as

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<v Speaker 3>well for colonoscopy, and on colonoscopy he had a six

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<v Speaker 3>centimeter mass in his colon. He went to a gastrologist

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<v Speaker 3>close to home, convenient as they say, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>a six centimeter mass, but his biopsy was zero point

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<v Speaker 3>zero six centimeters. So they took just a tiny piece

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<v Speaker 3>of this mass and told him it was okay. So

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<v Speaker 3>now he's got two big issues. Number one issue is

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<v Speaker 3>his PSA being so high forty two never worked up.

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<v Speaker 3>He declined a biopsy and a mass and is called

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<v Speaker 3>in six point five centimeters. So what do we do well,

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, arrange a biopsy of the prostate. Number two,

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<v Speaker 3>we advise a repeat biopsy of the colon mass. The

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<v Speaker 3>doctor to the biopsy is just a pinhole, when in

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<v Speaker 3>fact his mask was six and a half centim He

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<v Speaker 3>is about three centimeter mass in the colon. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is the work we do. His weights one fifty six

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<v Speaker 3>is five foot seven. He's active, he works construction. He's married,

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<v Speaker 3>has one child. He was born in Jamaica, and we

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<v Speaker 3>know in the Caribbean and the Black community, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>high risk of prostate cancer. It's a high risk of cancer. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>the ambassador of Jamaica was here recently and I was

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<v Speaker 3>told that Jamaicans have the highest rate of cancer in

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<v Speaker 3>the world, which I believe. So for this man, multiple issues,

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<v Speaker 3>needs prostate workup, needs colon workup. And this is the

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<v Speaker 3>work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 3>Broadway Broadway, thirty eighth Street in the heart of New

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<v Speaker 3>York City. About a woman who had a uterine cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit gone the usual route. She had her uterus can

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<v Speaker 3>served diagnosed when she had vaginal bleeding. Vaginal bleeding postman

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<v Speaker 3>apostles abnormal, some people have abnormal bleeding, even preman aposo.

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<v Speaker 3>She was found to have a uterus cancer. She went

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<v Speaker 3>to one of the big hospitals in neighboring state that

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<v Speaker 3>removed a uterus. They gave her a chemo, they gave

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<v Speaker 3>her radiation, and within months, within months, the cancer came back.

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<v Speaker 3>It came back in the pelvic area and then came

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<v Speaker 3>back in the upper abdomen. Two separate areas, and they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to give her more chemo, and she said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I've already had chemo didn't work. I already had standard radiation,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't work. I already had surgery didn't work. Why

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<v Speaker 3>should I do more of the same if something's failed,

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I do more of the same. And her

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<v Speaker 3>doctors had no answer for her. She came to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I met her with cancer and two new spots

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<v Speaker 3>in the body. Even though she had had surgery at

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<v Speaker 3>a big hospital, standard radiation daily over months, and then chemo,

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<v Speaker 3>none of it worked. The cancer came back. She came

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<v Speaker 3>to me two separate spots. Doctors elsewhere wanted to give

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<v Speaker 3>her chemo for stage four cancer for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>her life. She did not want to have chemo for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of her life. She came to me. We

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<v Speaker 3>treated both of these sites years ago, and both of

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<v Speaker 3>these sites remain in remission years later, even though it's

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<v Speaker 3>stage four cancer. Even though doctors elsewhere wanted to give

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<v Speaker 3>her chemo for the rest of her life, she just

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<v Speaker 3>did not want to have endless chemo. And lots of

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<v Speaker 3>people when they learned the options follow the trail to

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen eighty four Broadway like she did. She is so happy, healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>had good quality of life. And this is what we

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<v Speaker 3>fight for every day to spread the word. And you're

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to be a messenger of the word. Let radio

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<v Speaker 3>listeners save lives, meaning you can talk to people who

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<v Speaker 3>have cancer and you're educated. Just like a student who

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<v Speaker 3>goes to medical school gets educated, you by listening to

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<v Speaker 3>this program, gets educated to learn about options. When a

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<v Speaker 3>woman like her is told all you have to have

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<v Speaker 3>chemo the rest of your life, you may see a

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<v Speaker 3>friend or neighbors I'm in a coffee shop or McDonald's

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<v Speaker 3>or wherever, talking about getting chemo for us your life,

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<v Speaker 3>say hey, there might be another way for you. There

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<v Speaker 3>might be a better way for you. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street, where we accept

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<v Speaker 3>most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. This is the work we do.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about a man who came to

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<v Speaker 3>us with a gastro intestinal STROMO tumor. It's the tumor

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<v Speaker 3>of the GI track. He had a cancer right where

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<v Speaker 3>the rectum and the anus meet. So there's a big

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<v Speaker 3>mess in the gastro intestine. He went to a super

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<v Speaker 3>duper big hospital. They told them, if they do surgery,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll have to have a colostomy, he'll never defecate normally,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll never go to the bathroom normally. And otherwise he

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<v Speaker 3>can have chemo or systemic therapy for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>their life. And he had years. He had three plus

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<v Speaker 3>years of chemo, and then he learned about other options,

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<v Speaker 3>options that were hidden from him elsewhere. And he's upset

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<v Speaker 3>that he went to a super pooper big hospital. And

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you, having spoken to most of the

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<v Speaker 3>presidents of most of these hospitals, almost all of them

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<v Speaker 3>think that they're super duper best in the world. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>he went to super duper, super duper and they offered

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<v Speaker 3>him surgery would have altered his life. They offered him

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<v Speaker 3>systemic therapy, which he had for three plus years. None

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<v Speaker 3>of it worked. He came to us, We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>options that were never told to him before, that were hidden.

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<v Speaker 3>We see so many patients with cancer and never being

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<v Speaker 3>told options. And so this man finished his treatment. He's

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<v Speaker 3>done well, feeling great, he's in remission, doing great after

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<v Speaker 3>never being told about Doctor Liederman and radio surgery, being

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the super duper big hospitals for three

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<v Speaker 3>years only being told about surgery or chemo. Wow, is

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<v Speaker 3>he happy and healthy and doing great? And he's here

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<v Speaker 3>with his wife and himself doing great, feeling fine, back

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<v Speaker 3>to normal in remission after never being told about all

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<v Speaker 3>the options. I'll to talk about another patient who comes

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<v Speaker 3>to us with a prostate cancer only forty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 3>So some people come in and say, oh, I'm only

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine. I don't have any family history, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have this, I don't have that, I don't have pain,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know bleeding. Well, this man came, and he

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<v Speaker 3>came at age forty nine from the Caribbean, lives in

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, works as a manager on a golf course

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<v Speaker 3>in New Jersey. And his PSA was going up. PSA

494
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<v Speaker 3>was going from four to eight to ten and say

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<v Speaker 3>a PSA velocity that's more than doubled in a short

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<v Speaker 3>period of time at a young age. And he had

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<v Speaker 3>a biopsy that showed glease in six cancer. He had

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<v Speaker 3>twelve cores or twelve little needles in his prostate. Six

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<v Speaker 3>of the twelve showed cancer. He was waking up once

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<v Speaker 3>a night to urinate daytime. He was urinating frequently, he

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<v Speaker 3>had no blood, his sex life work, and he came

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<v Speaker 3>for options, as doctor Elswheer said, oh, you're so young,

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<v Speaker 3>you should have surgery. Well, by the way, this man

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<v Speaker 3>had two paternal uncles with state cancer and a brother

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<v Speaker 3>with prostate cancer, so three family members had prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know just if you have one family member,

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<v Speaker 3>the risk of dying of prostate cancer increases by about

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<v Speaker 3>seventy two percent. So there's lots of reasons for men

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<v Speaker 3>to be seen, lots of reasons to reduce death, reduce

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<v Speaker 3>dying of prostate cancer by just getting checked up, and

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<v Speaker 3>we invite you to do that too. He was being

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<v Speaker 3>checked up, but they were allowing the PSA to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of hand more than doubling. He came here with

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<v Speaker 3>a PSA growing, growing, growing. He had biopsy proven cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a large prostate and he was treated. He

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<v Speaker 3>was treated here six and a half years ago and

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<v Speaker 3>he's now cancer free. His PSA is zero, his sex

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<v Speaker 3>life works, his urinary life works, there's no shortening of

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<v Speaker 3>his body. He is very pleased cancer free, being diagnosed

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<v Speaker 3>at forty nine. So so many men come and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm forty nine. I can't have cancer. Well, not too

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<v Speaker 3>many of us are souper, and it's better to get

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<v Speaker 3>checked out. We'll be talking about a study soon showing

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<v Speaker 3>how you can reduce death and increase your chance of

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<v Speaker 3>living cancer free by getting checked up. And that's why

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<v Speaker 3>it's so important. My name is doctor Liederman, Radio Sort

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<v Speaker 3>of New York, thirtwenty four Broadway, New York's only Harvard trained,

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<v Speaker 3>Triple Board certified radiation cancer doctor. Here for you, accepting

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<v Speaker 3>most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid, super convenient in the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>New York City, close to most subwoys, trains, buses, you

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<v Speaker 3>name it, here we are. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 7>It's Johnny Braggs talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 7>came to doctor Liederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.

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<v Speaker 7>My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never

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<v Speaker 7>recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with

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<v Speaker 7>prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Liederman explained all options,

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<v Speaker 7>shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Liederman twenty

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<v Speaker 7>years ago. Today, I trust doctor Leederman even more. My

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<v Speaker 7>prostate cancer is gone. My PSA is zero. My quality

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<v Speaker 7>of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too,

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<v Speaker 7>like me for over twenty years. Call doctor Liederman for

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<v Speaker 7>prostate cancer. Two one two choices. That's two one two choices.

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<v Speaker 7>Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 7>Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and

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<v Speaker 7>two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West singing and writing about

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<v Speaker 3>his cancer treatment.

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<v Speaker 8>I had cancer and my pooda.

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<v Speaker 3>At the Radio surgeon reader choices.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to thank doctor Man and you.

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<v Speaker 8>Helia to cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not count in two two three, wells up?

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<v Speaker 8>No pad your.

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<v Speaker 3>Band that is s too free for cancer treatment, called

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Leederman two and two choices. Two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Call doctor Liederman.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 4>Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R

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<v Speaker 4>studios in the hearts of New York City were just

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<v Speaker 4>a few steps from the Radio Surgery in New York

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<v Speaker 4>Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 4>the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He

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<v Speaker 4>was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's the first in America and in the Western

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<v Speaker 4>Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Liederman at two and two choices for a free and

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<v Speaker 4>four I'm go in a booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 4>we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back, and we're live. That means you can call

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<v Speaker 3>us at one eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.

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<v Speaker 3>One eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. We're

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<v Speaker 3>live from now until two o'clock. So people have questions,

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<v Speaker 3>so just give us a call about cancer issues or

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<v Speaker 3>other issues related to the topics that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Call us no will pick up the call. Just one

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred three two one zero seven ten if you wish.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is doctor Liederman. I'd like to introduce myself

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<v Speaker 3>for a moment. I was born and raised in Waterloo, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to public school University MD real medical doctor at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five like my brother Ted, doctor Ted Liederman's great

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<v Speaker 3>brother and great doctor and doctor Ariel Leaderman, my son

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<v Speaker 3>who's also MD at twenty five three Doctor Liederman's all

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<v Speaker 3>mds at twenty five. I went on to train at

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<v Speaker 3>Euros of Chicago, Michael Reese for three years internal medicine,

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<v Speaker 3>took care of thousands of patients, then went to Harvard

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<v Speaker 3>Medical School, trained in medical home collegy. Took care of

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of cancer patients there and remained on the staff,

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<v Speaker 3>and then went on at the Joint Center for Radiation

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<v Speaker 3>Therapy at Harvard Medical School, trained in radiation for three

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<v Speaker 3>more years, Board certified. The only Harvard trained triple Board

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<v Speaker 3>certified radiation doctor in New York, one of the few

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. Here for you, accepting most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Ario Leaderman trained major hospitals from coast to coast,

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<v Speaker 3>went to medical school, Board certified, Magna cum Latte is

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<v Speaker 3>a great doctor. Compulsive doctor, Board certified and oncology radiation oncology.

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<v Speaker 3>Here for you. He's loved by his patients and their

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<v Speaker 3>family and the staff and others. Compulsive, thoughtful, caring. Doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Leaderman here for you can call. If you're lucky, you

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<v Speaker 3>get doctor Ario Leaderman A two and two choices. You

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<v Speaker 3>can call make an appointment. We accept most insurances, Medicare,

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<v Speaker 3>us or within a few blocks, whether it's trains, Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Central or Penn Station Port Authority, like there's more than

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<v Speaker 3>to get to us. We're accessible. We provide information. If

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<v Speaker 3>two and two choices if you want or listen, or

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<v Speaker 3>topic interests you the most. And we also have DVDs

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<v Speaker 3>about various topics. So a lot of information, lots of

622
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<v Speaker 3>chance to communicate and learn about options that may be

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<v Speaker 3>hidden from you elsewhere. I'll talk about a woman who

624
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<v Speaker 3>came to me seventy three years old. She had a

625
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 3>big mass pushing down her eye, so her eye was

626
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>distorted being pushed down. We've got a diagnosis. We made

627
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 3>a biopsy of this tiny little biopsy found she had myeloma.

628
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<v Speaker 3>She had maoloma in the eye, myeloma in the body.

629
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<v Speaker 3>We're able to treat her, get rid of that mass,

630
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<v Speaker 3>stop the pressure on her eye. Her now is eye

631
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<v Speaker 3>back to normal and she's actually in remission doing well,

632
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 3>having come here with a mass in the orbit. Remember,

633
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<v Speaker 3>the orbit is a bony structure where the eye sits

634
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<v Speaker 3>and a mass of cancer grown. The mass pushes and

635
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>puts pressure on the eye, distorts the eye, distorts the vision,

636
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 3>distorts the appearance of the person. So she was tuned

637
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<v Speaker 3>here years ago, about five years ago, and his remission

638
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>doing great, no evidence of cancer and the mass in

639
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 3>the eye the orbit is all gone thanks to radiosurgery

640
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<v Speaker 3>New York and her trust in US, which is also

641
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<v Speaker 3>so important. I'll talk about a sixty seven year old man.

642
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<v Speaker 3>He's a man, he's married, He came with his wife

643
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 3>and he had a growing mass in the lung. He

644
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>was growing. He did not want to have surgery, did

645
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<v Speaker 3>not want to have a biopsy, and there's many ways

646
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<v Speaker 3>you have a very good idea what's going on the

647
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 3>lung without biopsies. Many people do not want to have

648
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 3>biopsies the lung because they know if you put anito

649
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 3>in there's a chance of collapsing the lung that would

650
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<v Speaker 3>be in the ICU with a chest tube. This man

651
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>had a growing mass pet scan positive, getting bigger and

652
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 3>bigger and bigger, and years ago he came for radio surgery.

653
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 3>He did not want cutting, bleeding, biopsies, he didn't want

654
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>chemo tree. With radio surgery only we were able to

655
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>treat him very precisely in the stereotactic frame, which we

656
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 3>pioneered first in America. He had a few treatments. He's

657
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 3>now cancer free years later, and he just came back

658
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 3>for just this past week doing great, cancer free, pleased

659
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>with treatment. No cutting, no bleeding, no chemo, no ICUs,

660
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 3>no hospitals. This is the work we do every day.

661
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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about a fifty eight year old man born

662
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>in North Africa, came from He's widowed, his wife died

663
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of cancer, has three children. His PSA was rising. He

664
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<v Speaker 3>was treated here about eight years ago. His PSA was

665
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 3>eight point five six. His Gleason score was seven. He

666
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 3>had six of twelve course positive. He had lost weight,

667
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 3>He was waking up twice a night to urinate. We

668
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>offered him medicines, which he likes a lot. His medicines

669
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<v Speaker 3>help him urinate, although and have nothing to do with

670
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 3>the cancer. He never smoked, he never drank. He had

671
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 3>no reason of his cancer, and most of men with

672
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer have no reason to have prostate cancer. So

673
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<v Speaker 3>I examined him at a large prostate at T one

674
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<v Speaker 3>C prostate Gleason six PSA five point eighty six, and

675
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<v Speaker 3>he chose our treatment, and he's been treated. He spends

676
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>half his life in Morocco, half in New York. He

677
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 3>has children in California. And he is so happy with

678
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.159
<v Speaker 3>his treatment here. And this is the work that we

679
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 3>do every day. Had he had treatment elsewhere with surgery,

680
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 3>most likely to be impotent and leaking and shortened. Here

681
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>he is cancer free, with his sex life working. He

682
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 3>had a glease in seven cancer, which is a higher

683
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 3>risk cancer. We know with surgery or with radical surgery

684
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 3>or standard radiation, success is about sixty percent. Here it's

685
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>about ninety percent, so it has a much better chance

686
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>to be cancer free here. That's why he came. And

687
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<v Speaker 3>now years later, almost a decade later, he's doing great,

688
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 3>happy functioning, traveling, seeing his children. This is the work

689
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 3>that we do every day to help people with cancer.

690
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 3>And another man who came about the same time, nearly

691
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 3>a decade ago, was biopsied by a urologist in Brooklyn.

692
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>He was biopsied because his PSA was high. He demands

693
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 3>marriage from Jamaica, has two children eighteen and twenty four.

694
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<v Speaker 3>He had a eurologist who BIOPSI didn't found cancer, but

695
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 3>they all just wanted to do surgery and he just

696
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 3>did not want to do surgery for a glease In

697
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 3>eight cancer. Gleason eight is a more aggressive cancer. Gleason

698
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 3>is how the cancer looks under the microscope. The ranges

699
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 3>from two to ten. Two is the best, ten is

700
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>the worst. Eight is one of the most aggressive with surgery.

701
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<v Speaker 3>For Gleason eight cancer, surgery is successful only in about

702
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 3>twenty percent of patients in the best hands in America.

703
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<v Speaker 3>He was treated here almost a decade ago. His PSA

704
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 3>is now zero, and I can tell you he was

705
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.599
<v Speaker 3>very happy. His quality life is intact. He's pleased about that.

706
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<v Speaker 3>And this is the work that we do every day

707
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<v Speaker 3>at thirteen eighty four Broadway. About another man from the

708
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<v Speaker 3>caribbetess from Haiti, sixty eight year old man, French speaking.

709
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 3>He's divorced, he has a daughter. He was seen by eurologists.

710
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 3>He had a Gleason six cancer and the cancer was

711
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 3>growing as PSA was getting higher and higher. He chose

712
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 3>to have treatment then and now his PSA is zero

713
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>and again he's fully intact after treatment. He's one of

714
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<v Speaker 3>the nine thousand men we've treated with prostate cancer. This

715
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<v Speaker 3>is the work that we do every day at thirteen

716
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 3>eighty four Broadway in the heart of New York City.

717
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<v Speaker 3>But how about a man who's sixty five years old.

718
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<v Speaker 3>This is a man who has multiple medical problems. He

719
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<v Speaker 3>has heart disease, had abdominal pain. He was found to

720
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 3>have masses in the liver. He went to one of

721
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<v Speaker 3>the biggest hospitals in New York. They decided they're going

722
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<v Speaker 3>to cut him open and find out what's going on

723
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<v Speaker 3>in the liver well. They already had an MRI, they

724
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<v Speaker 3>already had a cat scan, They already had a Dodo

725
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Tate pet scan. A Dottate pet scan is for neuroendegrine cancers.

726
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a special PET scan. Petscans are among the most

727
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<v Speaker 3>sensitive tests to see if the cancers traveled. They had

728
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 3>already had the test, They already knew that he had

729
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>innumerable cancers in his liver. He had surgery, which was

730
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 3>a waste of time. It was great for the hospital

731
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and great for the surgeon, it was not great for

732
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the patient. Then they tried systemic therapy that didn't work either.

733
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<v Speaker 3>Another patient not being told about all the options, options

734
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<v Speaker 3>hidden from him at one of the biggest hospitals nearby,

735
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<v Speaker 3>and he chose to come over here to thirty enty

736
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<v Speaker 3>four Broadway, and he came here. He came here several

737
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and we were able to treat the cancer

738
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<v Speaker 3>in the stomach and in the liver simultaneously. So he

739
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 3>had treatment simultaneously to cancer and liver cancer, and the

740
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 3>stomach biops he'd proven cancer. And now he is cancer

741
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 3>free wherever we touched him. And he's doing well. His

742
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 3>function is great. And how do we know that, Well,

743
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 3>we just got blood tests on him. We've got new

744
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 3>scan on him. This is the work that we do

745
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 3>every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway and he's sad

746
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>that he had this surgery and he's had that he

747
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 3>had systemic therapy which didn't work. But he's very happy

748
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 3>about coming to thirtyenty four Broadway and having treatment here

749
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 3>which took place years ago, and he's in remission doing great.

750
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 3>This is the work we do every day at thirteen

751
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 3>eighty four Broadway Broadway, in thirty eighth Street, in the

752
00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 3>heart of New York City. What about a woman. This

753
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 3>is a woman who's sixty years old. She came with

754
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 3>her husband and sister. She was jaundice. Her skin was

755
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 3>yellow because the billiary system was blocked up. The billary

756
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.199
<v Speaker 3>system is a system that drains fluid to digestive juices

757
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 3>from the liver. We need our liver to do many things,

758
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 3>one of which is to give us digestive juices to

759
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 3>digest our food. This woman had jaundice, her billiarom was elevated.

760
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.400
<v Speaker 3>She had a big mass and the liver. She was

761
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 3>worked up elsewhere. She was found to have a five

762
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and app centimeter mass and the liver, and she had

763
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 3>a pet skin. She was offered chemo and surgery, and

764
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 3>she was just adamant against chemo and against any surgery.

765
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to take a five and app centimeter mass

766
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 3>out of the middle of her liver, which she was

767
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 3>not confident on. She knew that chemotherapy for Kolango carsonoma

768
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.280
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work very well. She wondered, like I wonder why

769
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 3>so much chemo was given, especially for diseases where it's

770
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 3>known not to work very well. So lucky for her,

771
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 3>she came here. She was really sick, she'd lost a

772
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of weight. She was Johnda. She had a big

773
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 3>mass in the liver, and we treated her. We treated

774
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>her for Klansu carcinoma. We actually have a very high

775
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 3>success rate treating cancers in the liver and kol aancha

776
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 3>carstomas in particular, also primary liver cancers. There's many different

777
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 3>kinds of liver cancers. One is cancers that started a

778
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 3>liver like hepato cilar cancers. The bioduc cancers hepatal cilar

779
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 3>cancers start in the liver start to her start in

780
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the bioducts are called coolancha carcinomas. They are also in

781
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 3>the liver area, but can be outside deliver. And then

782
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 3>there's cancers that travel deliver metastasis. So this patient had

783
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 3>a cool anchocarcinoma five and a half centimeters in her liver.

784
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 3>She did not want surgery, she did not want chemo,

785
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and we treated her years ago and she was treated successfully.

786
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 3>And I should tell you one more thing that we

787
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>found the mass in her lymphanode, so she actually had

788
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>extensive cancers of stage four cancer. And both the lymphanode

789
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>and the liver were treated, and she is now in

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00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>remission for an advanced COLANDU carcinoma. This is the work

791
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>we do, first in America, first in the Western Hemisphere,

792
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 3>and first to New York with an extensive, huge experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Liederman will be right back.

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<v Speaker 7>Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm

795
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<v Speaker 7>Johnny Bragg's. The number two for my stepfather who died

796
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 7>of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much

797
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<v Speaker 7>after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since

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<v Speaker 7>doctor Leederman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,

799
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<v Speaker 7>which is my PSA zero after doctor Leederman's successful prostate

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<v Speaker 7>cancer treatment. What every man wants? The numbers one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 7>four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting

802
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<v Speaker 7>the most successful treatment. Two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three,

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<v Speaker 7>keeping sexual functions. Four maintaining urinary control. Call my doctor

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<v Speaker 7>Leaderman two and two choices, two and two choices to

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<v Speaker 7>consider his prostate cancer treatment for you most insurances, Medicare,

806
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<v Speaker 7>Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four, Broadway, at thirty eighth called

807
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<v Speaker 7>two and two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor

808
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 7>Liederman two and two choices. I'm glad I did you'll

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<v Speaker 7>be number one with doctor Lederman.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you know that you've got choices?

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<v Speaker 3>That there can be a bad way?

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<v Speaker 8>Did you know that you've got choices? Can doctor Leader

813
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<v Speaker 8>mean today? To want to choic is a much bad way?

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<v Speaker 8>Two on two choices? Can doctor Leader me today? Did

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<v Speaker 8>you know that you've got choices that there can.

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<v Speaker 3>Be a bad way?

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<v Speaker 8>Did you know that you've got choices? Conductor Leader means

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<v Speaker 8>today too, want you choices? A much bad way?

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<v Speaker 3>Two on two?

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<v Speaker 8>Joy says Conductor Leader means.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, Doctor Liederman, Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 4>Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R

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<v Speaker 4>Studios in the hearts of New York City. Were just

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<v Speaker 4>a few steps from the radio surgery in New York

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<v Speaker 4>Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,

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<v Speaker 4>the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer non in Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>he was the first in New York with fractionated brain

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<v Speaker 4>radio surgery, and he's the first in America and in

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<v Speaker 4>the Western Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also

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<v Speaker 4>call doctor Liederman at two and two choices for a

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<v Speaker 4>free informative booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We are back. I want to talk about a woman

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<v Speaker 3>who came to me ten years ago. She'd been all

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<v Speaker 3>over in New York. She saw it chest surgeons and

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<v Speaker 3>pulmonary surgeons and orthopedic surgeons and pain management. She had

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<v Speaker 3>pain in the left chest by her shoulder, shoulder pain,

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<v Speaker 3>and no one could figure out what it was. And well,

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<v Speaker 3>we worked her up, even though she'd been with all

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<v Speaker 3>the other doctors and all the other testing and all

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<v Speaker 3>the other facilities. We worked her up. And what she

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<v Speaker 3>had was called a pan coast tumor pa n coast pancoast,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a kind of cancer in the top part

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<v Speaker 3>of the lung which grows into the nerves, which causes

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<v Speaker 3>us terrible pain in the shoulder area, and while was

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<v Speaker 3>not diagnosed elsewhere, we were able to diagnose it and

847
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<v Speaker 3>arrange treatment and offered treatment. And special things about pancoast

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<v Speaker 3>tumor are number one that it's often very difficult to diagnose,

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<v Speaker 3>and number two, it could be very successfully treated. And

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<v Speaker 3>we diagnosed it and we offered her treatment. She did

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<v Speaker 3>not want surgery. She wanted our treatment only no chemo,

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<v Speaker 3>no surgery, only radio surgery. And ten years ago that

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<v Speaker 3>treatment was given to her and she's done great, and

854
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<v Speaker 3>that cancer has been in remission. She's done great, cancer free,

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<v Speaker 3>doing well, pleased with the success when elsewhere it just

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<v Speaker 3>could not be diagnosed. It's something particular. If someone has

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder pain, it might be a kind of cancer that

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<v Speaker 3>you may have. And this woman, this is what she had,

859
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<v Speaker 3>was diagnosed and was successfully treated. The cancers never come

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<v Speaker 3>back to that area of her body where the cancer started.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the work that we do every day. At

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen and eighty four Broadway. I talk about another patient

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<v Speaker 3>who had a prostate cancer treated ten years ago. Gleason

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<v Speaker 3>six PSA five point three. This is a man sixty

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<v Speaker 3>eight years old. Like there's a black man in the

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<v Speaker 3>black community, there's more prostate cancer. One in six black

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<v Speaker 3>men get prostate cancer, one in twenty three die of

868
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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer, so the incidence is much higher, the death

869
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<v Speaker 3>rate is much higher. So he also had high blood

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<v Speaker 3>pressure at prostate symptoms as PSA was high. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a biopsy showed a gleas in six cancer seen by

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<v Speaker 3>his primary doctor. He had slow urination. His way was

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<v Speaker 3>one fifty two years before was one sixty. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a decreased appetite and no family history examined him. He

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<v Speaker 3>had a large prostate and he chose to be treated

876
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<v Speaker 3>nearly a decade ago, so we know he has higher risk,

877
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<v Speaker 3>higher risk of having the cancer, which he has higher

878
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<v Speaker 3>risk of dying, and he wanted to be treated. He

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<v Speaker 3>was treated here nearly a decade ago and is now

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<v Speaker 3>cancer free. PSA is zero, and he's happy and he's

881
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<v Speaker 3>doing great. And this is the work that we do

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<v Speaker 3>every day at thirteenty four Broadway. Another man I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about came with a PSA forty six Gleason seven,

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<v Speaker 3>also treated twelve years ago with a large prostate PSA

885
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<v Speaker 3>forty six. Yeah, you heard right, normal PSA's four. Gleason

886
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<v Speaker 3>seven both are higher than normal. More risky cancer treated

887
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<v Speaker 3>with our treatment only, no surgery, no chemo, no hormones,

888
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<v Speaker 3>and is doing weight now more than a decade later,

889
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<v Speaker 3>cancer free, doing great. This is the work we do

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<v Speaker 3>every day at thirtyenty four Broadway, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a new study done. So there's a new

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<v Speaker 3>study that just came out that looked at how to

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<v Speaker 3>save lives. And interestingly enough, one of the big newspapers recently,

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<v Speaker 3>the Wall Street Journal, had a story on how people

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<v Speaker 3>are spending up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a year for longevity. People are spending in the United

897
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<v Speaker 3>States two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year just

898
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<v Speaker 3>to go to a clinic for longevity to try to

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<v Speaker 3>live longer, when in fact you can come here and

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<v Speaker 3>increase your chance of living for example prostate cancer. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this study was done across seven countries. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>world's largest prostate cancer screening study, called the European Randomized

903
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<v Speaker 3>Study for Screening of Prostate Cancer, and it was recently

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<v Speaker 3>presented updated data in Madrid, Spain. They noted authors noted

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<v Speaker 3>that the prostate cancer is the most common cause of

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<v Speaker 3>cancer and men in one hundred and twelve countries and

907
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<v Speaker 3>it's expected to double prevalence. So itse that double in

908
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<v Speaker 3>prevalence by twenty forty. You're talking about just in a

909
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<v Speaker 3>few years twice as many men who have prostate cancer

910
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<v Speaker 3>as they do today. And it's already the most common

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<v Speaker 3>form of cancer in one hundred and twelve countries. And

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<v Speaker 3>how do we detect it well? Detected by physical exam

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00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 3>and symptoms PSA is very important and of course a biopsy.

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<v Speaker 3>And people that get early diagnoses have a better chance

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<v Speaker 3>to be cancer free. Not getting early diagnosis means you

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<v Speaker 3>have a higher chance that the cancer travels. It means

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<v Speaker 3>you have cancer for us of your life, means you

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<v Speaker 3>have chemo and radiation and surgery and misery. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>much better to be diagnosed early, early, And there's new

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<v Speaker 3>data from this study to the study of thousands of men.

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<v Speaker 3>It's long term data showing that screening for prostate cancer

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<v Speaker 3>can lead to a twenty percent reduced risk of dying

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<v Speaker 3>from prostate cancer. Wow, so some people are going spending

924
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<v Speaker 3>a quarter million dollars for longevity where you can come

925
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 3>here and get checked out for prostate and have a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent lower risk of dying from prostate cancer. You

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<v Speaker 3>can come here and get checked out, and many men do.

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<v Speaker 3>There's twenty year data. It's a first look between screening

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<v Speaker 3>and dying and there's a huge difference. So there were

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<v Speaker 3>seventy two thousand men invited for screening and one in

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<v Speaker 3>six or twelve thousand men never showed up. Twelve thousand

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<v Speaker 3>men never showed up and skipped every appointment. These men

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<v Speaker 3>who skipped every appointment had a forty five percent higher

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<v Speaker 3>risk of dying from prostate cancer compared to those who

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<v Speaker 3>showed up. Just showing up reduces your risks dramatically of dying,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can do the same thing here. You can

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00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 3>come here and get checked for your prostate reducing your

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<v Speaker 3>death rate dramatically. This is a large study showing how

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<v Speaker 3>you can reduce death from prostate cancer by twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Men who did not show up had a forty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent higher risk of dying from prostate cancer. So men

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00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>who were never invited in for screening. Men who attended

943
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 3>screenings had a twenty three percent lower risk of dying

944
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<v Speaker 3>from prostate cancer if they came in for screening. If

945
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you never showed up, forty percent higher death and so

946
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 3>you can do things to save your life. Showing up

947
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 3>coming in coming into Radisert in New York, getting checked

948
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 3>out can help you save your life and live longer.

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<v Speaker 3>And furthermore, there's an increased risk of being cancer free

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<v Speaker 3>if you get screened. Similarly for breast cancer, women who

951
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 3>get checked for breast cancer screening and proper treatment have

952
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 3>dramatically better chance to be cancer free. And also people

953
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<v Speaker 3>who get checked for colon cancer have colonoscopy and screening

954
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 3>and blood tests which can easily be done starting here

955
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 3>at Radiostrity in New York have about a fifty percent

956
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 3>less chance of dying of call and cancer, and we've

957
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<v Speaker 3>talked about that today. We talked about people with colon cancer.

958
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<v Speaker 3>So there's so many ways you can have longevity, especially

959
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<v Speaker 3>from cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer, and other

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00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 3>cancers by screening. And you can get screening here covered

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<v Speaker 3>by your insurance. You don't have to pay a quarter

962
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 3>million dollars like being promoted by some longevity clinics. So

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00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 3>you're welcome to come here if you want. We accept

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<v Speaker 3>most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We're super conveniently located in the

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<v Speaker 3>heart of New York City. It's easy to get to us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to communicate to us. You can communicate, you

967
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 3>can email, email comes to me directly at guildgil at

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<v Speaker 3>RSNY dot org, gil at our why dot org, our website,

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<v Speaker 3>check us out at r s n Y dot org

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<v Speaker 3>and call us to get information or make an appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always best to meet in person. Call us A

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<v Speaker 3>two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Gil Riderman and myself. If you have questions before

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<v Speaker 4>next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD,

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<v Speaker 4>just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's

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<v Speaker 4>two one two two four six four two three seven.

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<v Speaker 4>That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

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<v Speaker 2>For cancer treatment, most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,

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<v Speaker 2>outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery Pioneer's goal too.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>First for you with body radiosurgery, Doctor Liderman hits your

983
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<v Speaker 2>cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades

984
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<v Speaker 2>of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

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<v Speaker 2>from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second

986
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 2>chance for you. Meet doctor Leaderman to hit the cancer.

987
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<v Speaker 2>He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologists.

988
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Call two one two choices to one two choices to

989
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 2>meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare,

990
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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid accepted. Free booklet DVD two super convenient Broadway in

991
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<v Speaker 2>thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liderman to hit your cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Call two one two choices two one two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Prostate cancer very common. Men's cancer worldwide will double by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty forty. Thirty five thousand men die here annually from

995
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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer. What to do? It's doctor Liderman with new news.

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<v Speaker 3>New data reveals TI testing reduces prostate cancer death by

997
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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent. Men's skipping testing have forty five percent more

998
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<v Speaker 3>death from prostate cancer. What to do? Come for prostate

999
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<v Speaker 3>cancer screening at Radio Surgery in New York with doctor Liederman.

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<v Speaker 3>Easy to save lives, reduce prostate cancer death, possibly yours

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<v Speaker 3>or your loved one. How visit Doctor Liederman thirteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four Broadway, Call two and two choices. Most insurances Medicare,

1003
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<v Speaker 3>Medicaid accepted. It's easy with Doctor Liederman, New York's only

1004
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Harvard trained, Triple Board certified radiation oncologist. Call doctor Liederman

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<v Speaker 3>two and two choices. It's easy with doctor Liederman. Trying

1006
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<v Speaker 3>to save lives, Call doctor Liederman two and two choices.

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<v Speaker 1>The preceding was a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas expressed
