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<v Speaker 1>The countdown is on to fight time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Big Fight Weekend. Now here is your host?

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<v Speaker 2>DJ Leaves? Well, well, well, we have reached the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>of this massive we odd season pay per view card.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now you can't tell the players without a scorecard.

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<v Speaker 2>We're ready to try to help with that on the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Fight Weekend preview. At least I think we know

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<v Speaker 2>who all is fighting this weekend. Stand by as we

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I am merely the somewhat capable host TJ Reeves.

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<v Speaker 2>He is our insider. Dan Rayfield. We launched this and

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<v Speaker 2>we love the podcast audience. We launched this every time

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<v Speaker 2>we do this Thursday, usually in the evening Thursday night

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<v Speaker 2>into Friday, and we're glad that you're with us. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think we have everything solidified. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>not Friday yet anyway, Dan Rayfield, to have you back.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got ill fighters. Floyd Schofield is off the card

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<v Speaker 2>because he's ill. Daniel du was off the card that

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<v Speaker 2>he's because he's ill. Dan Rayfield's not off the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you're a little bit out of the weather

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Good to have you back. I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>still fighting u illness yourself, but you're posting you posted

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<v Speaker 2>here on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Pod hanging in there. Uh. I don't have to fight though,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's been Uh. I mean I've I've covered

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fallouts and a lot of late breaking

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<v Speaker 1>cards that have changed at the last minute, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say I've seen a card that was this loaded

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Have two major players, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in World championship fights drop out, one a challenger won

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<v Speaker 1>a title holder, and make switches on one on four

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<v Speaker 1>days notice, one on three days notice. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into all of it, but it's it's been crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what though, even if, even if, for

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<v Speaker 1>the worst thing could have happened, and let's say both

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<v Speaker 1>fights actually were hanseled because they couldn't come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement, and this, of course Stephenson fight was off

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<v Speaker 1>the show completely, and the Dui and Parker fight was

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<v Speaker 1>off the show completely. It would still be a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a pay per view. And they have managed, with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of elbow grease and for good fortune, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to keep these two bouts on the

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<v Speaker 1>event and still have a great show.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way money talks, we know this and

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<v Speaker 2>when you have money, you can make things happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have been making it happen. All right. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>making it happen, we make it happen here on the podfeed.

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<v Speaker 2>We thank you the loyal audience. We preview going into

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, we recap coming off the weekend. The least

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<v Speaker 2>you can do is rate us and reviews. Review us,

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<v Speaker 2>follow follow along, give us the five star review. Those

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<v Speaker 2>all help.

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<v Speaker 1>A while.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. If you enjoy it. By the way, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been killing it with the interviews. We put back up

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast feed the Dmitri Bevil interview earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>week as he gets ready to fight better BV. In

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<v Speaker 2>the rematch, we put up the Joseph Parker interview. Got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of great insight about fighting DUBI. Unfortunately none

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<v Speaker 2>of that matters, but you'll hear from Parker on his mindset,

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<v Speaker 2>the underdog thing, the whole bit. So that's on the

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<v Speaker 2>pod feed.

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<v Speaker 1>A good amount of that Joe Parker interview was not

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<v Speaker 1>even related to particular the evolution of where he's been

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<v Speaker 1>over the last year, the upsets, getting back in position,

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<v Speaker 1>his new working relationship with Andy Lee and George Lockhart,

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<v Speaker 1>is nutrition and strength coach. So a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from Joe and other than do.

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<v Speaker 2>What And by the way, if you appreciate this, Ray

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<v Speaker 2>I might have said this, rate us and review us

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<v Speaker 2>and say so if you enjoy the content and the

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<v Speaker 2>coverage with what we do. All right, So let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into the nuts and bolts. The chronology is that Floyd

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<v Speaker 2>Schofield was sick earlier this week in Saudi Arabia, so

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up from there, because there was some debate

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<v Speaker 2>about whether he could fight or not. It turns out

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get cleared, didn't want to try it while he's sick.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't blame him for that. I mean, if the.

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<v Speaker 1>Flu that he didn't have a choice, DJ I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand. But if this is no joke when you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about going into the ring to get ready to fight,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not healthy, if you're ill, they shouldn't let

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<v Speaker 2>him fight. I'm with you. So take me, take me

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<v Speaker 2>through that and how we ended up with the opponent

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up with for Shakur, because that was the

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<v Speaker 2>first casualty this way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So putting aside all the nonsensical conspiracies by

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd Scofield's lunatic father about how cha course teams set

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<v Speaker 1>them up and rubbed cream on them because of messuse

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<v Speaker 1>got involved, the complete idiocy.

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<v Speaker 2>I had not heard that one, but I keep going. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>put it aside.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a fighter going overseas and in flu season or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the season where this happens, coming down

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<v Speaker 1>with an illness, whether it's a cold or it is

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<v Speaker 1>the actual flu, or it's COVID or it's something else,

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<v Speaker 1>is not entirely unusual. Bottom line is floyd' Scholfield would

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<v Speaker 1>not have traveled thousands and thousands of miles away for

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<v Speaker 1>a payday that is probably tenfold of what he's ever made,

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<v Speaker 1>uh to fight for a world championship on a big

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<v Speaker 1>cart and if fight that he has called for for

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<v Speaker 1>a while and really really went to the mat to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Actually in a situation where the folks at

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Boy, which are his promoter, did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the fight, but he basically talked them into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So anybody thinks that the kid pulled out just because

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<v Speaker 1>he was somehow afraid of the fight or something is

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<v Speaker 1>just a fucking idiot. But besides that, so Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 1>he falls ill. I don't know the exact situation some

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<v Speaker 1>of sixers, and maybe it was a weight making scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard that particular. The bottom line is.

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<v Speaker 2>That he was not he was in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>The hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So once that happened and he is released, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing okay. But here's the point though, Even if

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<v Speaker 1>all that's the case, even if you still wanted to fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if it was feeling better the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, the regulators do their job. The British Boxing

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<v Speaker 1>Board of Control regulates the fights in Saudi Arabia these

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<v Speaker 1>reat season cards. The only exceptions have been the Uzik

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<v Speaker 1>Fury fights, where they brought in another regulation outfit to

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<v Speaker 1>do the main events because Zusig didn't want the Britts

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<v Speaker 1>regulating a fight against the Brett understandable, but the British

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<v Speaker 1>Boxing Board of Control was regulating this fight and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, no, you're out. That's it. They are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that pulled the plug on the fight. They had.

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd Schofield had no choice even if he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to go through with it, so he was out now.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as that happened, there was a, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a mad dash to get a new opponent. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of promoters involving these shows, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Warrens folks, there's Toppering people involve. There's obviously Mattroom Boxing,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gold Star, there's Sella, There's all these different entities,

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Boy, There's a bunch of different people. So they

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<v Speaker 1>had all their people, like you, rolling up their sleeves

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get this work that. As it turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the opponent by all accounts, that Turkey Alshic

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<v Speaker 1>picked to try to see if he was available to

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<v Speaker 1>do the fight. And it's a fighter named Josh Padley.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may remember the name Josh Padley because on

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<v Speaker 1>September when he knocked out Anthony Joshua. On that undercard,

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<v Speaker 1>you had Mark Chamberlain, who is Turkey's favorite fighter, the

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<v Speaker 1>lightweight up and comer contender, however you want to describe him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was defeated in that particular fight in an

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<v Speaker 1>upset and Padley was the one that beat him. Padley

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<v Speaker 1>is undefeated, he's now fifteen to zero. He looked you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. He was an underdog against Mark Chamberlain. He

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<v Speaker 1>won a pretty clear decision, knocked him down in the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't fought since that fight. And as it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, and you know, say what you want about

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<v Speaker 1>the merit of the WBC rankings, that's a conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>another day. But here's the fact. Before all this stuff happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it just turned out that Josh Padley was one slot

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Floyd Schofield in the WBC rankings. One guy

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<v Speaker 1>was twelfth, one guy was thirteen. So if according to

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<v Speaker 1>the WBC who approved to prove this fight, they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing a title defense for Shakhor against a contender rated

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<v Speaker 1>higher than the original opponents. So take that for what

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth. You know, I think both of the fights

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<v Speaker 1>were mismatches. That's my opinion that of all the great

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<v Speaker 1>fights on this show, that was the one that was

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<v Speaker 1>the widest. And but all credit to Chamberlain. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in shape, he was you know, I guess close to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Credit to Padley, Yes, I know who you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Padly, My bad, my bet Padley for him and

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<v Speaker 1>his team willing to do the fight on such short notice. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>being well compensated, and you know, life changing money for

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<v Speaker 1>a basically, what is a guy who's been a club

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<v Speaker 1>fighter other than the victor against Chamberlain, and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna roll the dice. He has nothing to lose

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<v Speaker 1>because even if he loses a twelve round decision, or

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<v Speaker 1>if even he gets stopped, you know, he he went

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<v Speaker 1>in there on such short notice. He made a big

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money. He got in the good graces of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody involved with the show, match room certainly, and Turkey obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh, you know again, you're fighting shirt course

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Stalls.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You might get stopped, but you're probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get beat up because Shakur's game is about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sweet science of box.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the reality with what you're saying. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>his own people prevailed upon him and others. You may

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<v Speaker 2>never get another opportunity like this. There's no guarantees. We

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<v Speaker 2>hope you will to make this kind of money, be

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<v Speaker 2>on this kind of a van against this kind of fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in shape, you're on weight. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>rayphel that's a whole nother debacle. Is everybody gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>weight on Friday. That's a Friday problem. That's a Friday problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But allegedly Padley is on weight right, has been in

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<v Speaker 2>training and now he's the new opponent for Shakour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess they were. They were having conversations about him,

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<v Speaker 1>and not that he would be in training camp already

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<v Speaker 1>for this fight, but there was conversations where he may

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<v Speaker 1>have been the next opponent to face Dalton Smith from

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<v Speaker 1>the UK and undefeated contender who's now in the number

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<v Speaker 1>one position I believe at one hundred and forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And so look, Padley got on the plane on Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 1>he got to Rehid in time to be at their

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<v Speaker 1>press conference on Wednesday, and he basically said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what every boxer gets in the in the sport for.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you want to you know, be in these world

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<v Speaker 1>title fights, beyond these big cards, make good money, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know basically say, and I'm getting to do all

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<v Speaker 1>three of these things at once. So when you're at

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<v Speaker 1>whatever level you're at in boxing, you can always go

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<v Speaker 1>well do it against the best opponent on the biggest stage,

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<v Speaker 1>for the biggest money, and Padley's taking advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>of a situation. It's unfortunate for Scofield. Hopefully, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like he's gonna be okay in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a gargantuan I mean, an upset of

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, for his perspective, is like, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fighting Schofield, I'm fighting Padley, I've been training, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>the analogy during the press cover ince that it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>those from that point of view. Again, Shakur was a

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly he's heavily favored, he's very talented. But Shakur

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<v Speaker 2>And again they had to throw this together, as we

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<v Speaker 2>we rolled into Thursday and the reports began to surface

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday morning US time, middle of the day UK time

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<v Speaker 2>that Daniel Dubois was suddenly ill and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>day that they're going to do the press conferences with

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<v Speaker 2>the fighters, etc. In Riad And then it became a debate, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how ill is he? Can he go on? And Frank

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<v Speaker 2>yet that was night time, saudy time, but earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Now you and I are taping this in

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<v Speaker 2>the evening on Thursday. What ended up happening is same scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the the British Boxing Board of Control saying with

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a British from I understand. This was

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<v Speaker 1>not the British board that said that. They probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have but regardless, he was ill and could was not

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<v Speaker 1>going to fight. I mean, end of story. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna again. He's not looking to duck out

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<v Speaker 1>of the fight. He took the fight. Did the promotion

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<v Speaker 1>train you know, I'm not I don't believe there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious whatsoever. I mean, a guy's travel different weather, different food,

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<v Speaker 1>different schedule, time zones are mixed up, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just lowers your immunes, I guess. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he got sick. It's not unusual and so he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to fight now again. Like I said about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened with Shakor and Padley, you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>boxing knowledgeable people involved in this business who've made matches

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<v Speaker 1>a million times, promotional folks and matchmakers and managers and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of money that can be used to

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, they were gonna clearly keep Parker on the

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<v Speaker 1>show if they could come up with a suitable replacement opponent. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's unfortunate for DUIs coming off such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge victory against Joshua, this was a great opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>his in his uh, you know, in his uh, in

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<v Speaker 1>his ledger. Remember he had won three in a row

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<v Speaker 1>Jarrell Miller Argovich to win the interim title, upgraded then

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<v Speaker 2>And we need to say this massive interest in this fight,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously in the UK, massive interest in Europe and in

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<v Speaker 2>this bout because of Dubois and the and the angle

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<v Speaker 2>of him being the the IBF heavyweight champion and.

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<v Speaker 1>Parker, and Parker is a well known fighter to the

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<v Speaker 1>British crowd also because most of his big fights have

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua that he lost or obviously he lost also to UH,

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Joyce, but he's also fought fights in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK in one fights and he's also on a great run.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won five fights in a row, including back to

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<v Speaker 1>back fights in Riad where he took down Deontay Wilder

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<v Speaker 1>Zilly Zang. So he's been red hot also. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that on our interview in the podcast that was

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<v Speaker 1>on the previous episode. So they were looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>names that came up as the possibility that he might fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that always happens. You know guys who

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that are supposed to fight on the boxer card

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<v Speaker 1>on April fifth. One is Lawrence o'koley, who is new

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<v Speaker 1>bridgerweight and at light heavyweight I mean, I'm sorry at cruiserweight. Cruiserweight.

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<v Speaker 1>David Atdlier another Britt who'd been on Riat season cards

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, who also was scheduled for a boxer

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<v Speaker 1>up was a fighter named marod Aliev who was a

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, you had Billy Nelson, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>was posted on social media. Hey, you know, we told

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<v Speaker 1>our promoter, which is also a boxer, that talked to

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<v Speaker 1>the folks in Saudi Arabia and Martin Bucoley is ready

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<v Speaker 1>and willing and able to fight. So so Parker, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem. And you know, within a couple hours of

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<v Speaker 1>that of that post, Marin Bacoley had accepted the fight

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<v Speaker 1>and got the offer, and he's on his way to

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia probably as we're or soon to be on

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I agree. So before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the actual matchup here, the one thing I considered, and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I were not in communication on Thursday, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was communicating with Ricky Carroll, who does a great

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<v Speaker 2>job right now as our lead writer on Big Fight

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<v Speaker 2>Weekend dot com, and I said, what are you hearing?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was checking with some different people. Could they

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<v Speaker 2>make could they make the fight with a Jeet Kaba

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<v Speaker 2>Yell more so than Jang because Parker had beaten Jang.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kaba Yell and Jang are on the undercard. To me, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's boxing, but it seemed kind of interesting. Could they

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<v Speaker 2>accommodate Jang, pay him and let Kaba Yell fight Parker

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<v Speaker 2>because they're already there.

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<v Speaker 1>There would be absolutely no reason to break up the

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<v Speaker 1>Jang and Caveall fight, especially given that it was already

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying. I'm just saying because he was

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<v Speaker 2>already there, the fact that that you could make it.

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<v Speaker 1>All you're doing is ruining one fight to make another fight.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing is that Caaba Yelle, supposedly on

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the opponent. I was just theorizing it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying how realistic it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if i'd say Jang is the opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people think Jangs and knock

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<v Speaker 1>Cabby Yell out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll find out. We'll find out, and then we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Know they weren't going to break apart that fight to

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<v Speaker 1>make another. But they got Bacoli in the fight. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Bacoley hadn't fought since the Zip then since the August

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<v Speaker 1>fight against Jared Anderson, when he detonated him and destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>him and looked right. And he's had trouble getting fights,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this is an incredible opportunity for him. The

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<v Speaker 1>one great thing when you're a heavyweight taking a fight

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<v Speaker 1>on Charno's, you're gotta worry about making weight. Whatever Marley

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<v Speaker 1>is is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the skeptic in me that's wondering is all

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<v Speaker 2>of this still gonna work out? Because Baccoli's got to

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<v Speaker 2>get there as we're taping this. He's got to clear

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<v Speaker 2>the medicals and all of that, because again, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a fighter that has been in Saudi Arabia where they're

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<v Speaker 2>checking him out for the last two or three days.

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<v Speaker 2>At least Badley had a couple of extra days notice

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he had one extra day notice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday. But any in any

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<v Speaker 2>in any event, am I am I being too skeptical?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anything, anything could happen. I mean, who the heck knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you found an opponent where weight's

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<v Speaker 1>got an issue, I have to imagine the medical is

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<v Speaker 1>not an issue. First of all, he's fought in Saudi

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<v Speaker 1>Arabia in the past. He's a fighter that fights out

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<v Speaker 1>of Scotland, so he's under the under the jurisdiction of

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<v Speaker 1>the British Boxing Board of Control. By all accounts, he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not injured. He came off a great

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<v Speaker 1>win in August, so I don't As long as he

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<v Speaker 1>and get on the plane and make it to Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see why there is a problem. And from

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Parker's perspective, in listening to Joseph at the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wished good good health to Daniel Dubois, but

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<v Speaker 1>he said I'll be ready for Saturday. And his manager,

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Brown, who's involved with the event, and Saudi ready,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, look, there's gonna be a fight on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe's ready, willing abele and he is a throwback fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and I talked about on the podcast about his

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<v Speaker 1>willingness to just fight whoever. So there might be only

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<v Speaker 1>one fighter in boxing willing to take on Martin Bucoley

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<v Speaker 1>on three days notice, and it happens to be Joseph Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of guys would be willing to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is a this is a fight that if

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<v Speaker 1>they had announced this when they kicked off the entire show,

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<v Speaker 1>people would have said, oh shit, that's a good fight,

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<v Speaker 1>Bocoli against Parker. Now, as it turns out, not that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a reason, not that this is why it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>When Parker was fighting Duboi, it was for Dubai's IBF title,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had already been predetermined in an agreement with

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<v Speaker 1>he won the interim WBO title. Now, the WBO is

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<v Speaker 1>rules do not permit, and they're and they're very steadfast

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<v Speaker 1>was already known that once the bell rang, Parker's interim

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<v Speaker 1>title of the WBO would be vacated. But because the

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<v Speaker 1>the WBO interim champion and McCauley is a bona fide

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<v Speaker 1>legit contender. My back and forth earlier today with Gustabo Olaveri,

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<v Speaker 1>them out, he says, yeah, we'll allow that fight, So

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<v Speaker 1>this will be sanctioned instead of being an IBF heavyweight

416
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<v Speaker 1>title fight, it will be in fact for Joseph Parker's

417
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<v Speaker 1>interim WBO title. For whatever that's worth, but there is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what it's worth. That's for sure.

419
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<v Speaker 2>What it's worth is whoever wins this fight, If if

420
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<v Speaker 2>Alexander Usik is not willing to fight them and fairly

421
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<v Speaker 2>soon later this year. This is me saying this, they

422
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<v Speaker 2>could be elevated as the full champion. That's the whole idea,

423
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<v Speaker 2>that's the whole reason why they did the interim And

424
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<v Speaker 2>the point I don't.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Know about later this year. Remember when you're a unified champion.

426
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<v Speaker 1>The way that the way that Usik is they do

427
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<v Speaker 1>a rotation system and so the WBO my recollection is

428
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<v Speaker 1>not the next step in line. But the point is

429
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<v Speaker 1>there's there's some added stakes because of it. So it's

430
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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity for Bacoli Parker is defending that title

431
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<v Speaker 1>instead of fighting for the other title. It just an

432
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<v Speaker 1>added element to the fight, you know. And even if

433
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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't around, they probably still would have made the match.

434
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<v Speaker 1>And what happened, I'm just saying it just adds to

435
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<v Speaker 1>it with a little bit of the just a different organization.

436
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<v Speaker 2>And and you and I aren't agreement. Dangerous fight here

437
00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>for pugurely dangerous with with Bocoli, asked jar At, Anderson

438
00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.079
<v Speaker 2>asked Tony Yoka who he beat? You love my phrase

439
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<v Speaker 2>pillar to post when they fought a couple of years

440
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<v Speaker 2>ago as well.

441
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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't I just don't know what Bocoli's

442
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<v Speaker 1>situation is in terms of in the gym, like in

443
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<v Speaker 1>fighting shape, because he doesn't hate to add anything scheduled

444
00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.599
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes with Martin, the thing that that can be

445
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<v Speaker 1>an issue is the conditioning. Is the weight. Parker's been

446
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<v Speaker 1>in camp for you know, nine or ten weeks, so

447
00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>he should be, you know, ready to roll. It is

448
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<v Speaker 1>a big change of the style of opponent. I mean,

449
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<v Speaker 1>Duboi is a smaller, shorter, quicker, uh problem, heavier puncher

450
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<v Speaker 1>than Bacoli, who is a much more taller, wider, more

451
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<v Speaker 1>lumbering but powerful. It's a different kind of animal South.

452
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<v Speaker 1>He's still in there with a big man trying to

453
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<v Speaker 1>take your head.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Off and a big left. And credit again to Parker

455
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<v Speaker 2>for being willing to do all of this. So first

456
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<v Speaker 2>time I'll mention we'll handicap these fights on the bet

457
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<v Speaker 2>Us Boxing Show at one Eastern time Friday. I'm interested

458
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<v Speaker 2>in your handicap of Parker and Bocoli, so to our knowledge,

459
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<v Speaker 2>can I qualify it one more time? That's it on

460
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<v Speaker 2>the moving and shaking on this read season card. Now,

461
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<v Speaker 2>if something else has happened overnight, God help us overnight

462
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<v Speaker 2>Thursday into Friday morning, you and I will be talking

463
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<v Speaker 2>about it on the bet Us Boxing Show. But for now,

464
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<v Speaker 2>this is all the musical chairs that we have at

465
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<v Speaker 2>the moment. Is these two fights, we think as we

466
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<v Speaker 2>put the pod to bed, all right, So that leads

467
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<v Speaker 2>us back to the top, which is Archer better BV

468
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<v Speaker 2>and Dmitri Bvol. The rematch again here from Bevol on

469
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<v Speaker 2>the hod Feed a couple of episodes ago, if you

470
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<v Speaker 2>missed it, talking with Dan about this rematch, and this

471
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<v Speaker 2>is kind of rare that it's an immediate rematch, like

472
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<v Speaker 2>four months later. We've seen some immediate rematches, like the

473
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<v Speaker 2>Usik Thury rematch was within the same year, about six

474
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<v Speaker 2>months apart, but only four months later the two Russians

475
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<v Speaker 2>are fighting again. Dan, what are your thoughts as we're

476
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<v Speaker 2>now within the forty eight hour window of having that

477
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<v Speaker 2>rematch undisputed light heavyweight title fight.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Besides all the craziness of what's been going on with

479
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<v Speaker 1>some of these undercard fights, you know, with Dui and

480
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<v Speaker 1>the Shakurt fights, I mean, this is still the main event.

481
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<v Speaker 1>This is still the main attraction. This is still the

482
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<v Speaker 1>one for all the marbles. This is still a rematch

483
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<v Speaker 1>of what was an extraordinarily close fight in October, a

484
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<v Speaker 1>fight that I personally scored one fourteen to one fourteen.

485
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<v Speaker 1>It was a very close call in favor of Arthur

486
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<v Speaker 1>Better bv. I mean, it really could have gone either way.

487
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<v Speaker 1>I think even if you're a supporter of the other fighter,

488
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<v Speaker 1>you acknowledge that it was a super close fight. It

489
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<v Speaker 1>was a majority decision. One judge did have it one

490
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<v Speaker 1>fourteen to one, fourteen one with seven to five fifteen,

491
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<v Speaker 1>one to thirteen. One was eight four one sixteen one twelve.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Some people kind of lost their mind like not going

493
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<v Speaker 1>to be eight to far. It was really close fight. Yeah,

494
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<v Speaker 1>But if there's like a bunch of four or five

495
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>close rounds in the fight and he just happened to

496
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<v Speaker 1>take it off to the other guy eight four in

497
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<v Speaker 1>a fight like that, it doesn't doesn't is not indicative

498
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<v Speaker 1>that it's a wide fight, because each of those rounds

499
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>were close, like literally TJ in this fight, basically all

500
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 1>twelve rounds were close, competitive and better beev to the

501
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<v Speaker 1>view of most people, including the judges, closed much stronger,

502
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and so whatever he needed to do, he got the

503
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<v Speaker 1>benefit because over the last three rounds he basically was

504
00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 1>that was what provided him with the margin to be

505
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<v Speaker 1>the winner of the fight. So Beevol wants to as

506
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<v Speaker 1>he said a million times leading up to the fight,

507
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<v Speaker 1>including in the interview your referenced on the pod a

508
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<v Speaker 1>couple episodes ago, he needs to do more, he needs

509
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<v Speaker 1>to throw more punches better. BV probably wants to get

510
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<v Speaker 1>off to a little bit of a better start. But

511
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<v Speaker 1>there's not any tricks here. I mean, these guys are

512
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<v Speaker 1>who they are. They're veteran contenders, they're veteran championship level fighters,

513
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<v Speaker 1>and there's not a lot that you're gonna switch around

514
00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:03.839
<v Speaker 1>in four months. Maybe a wrinkle here, a wrinkle there,

515
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<v Speaker 1>But I anticipate, you know, a similarly you know, close

516
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and cagey kind of fight. To me, it's about can

517
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>can better be of land the big bomb that he

518
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>was not able to land the first time, because we

519
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>know he's one of the more devastating punchers in boxing.

520
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 1>That was the first time he ever went the route

521
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:20.519
<v Speaker 1>in his professional career and knocked out all the opponents.

522
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<v Speaker 1>He was the only reigning world title holder that had

523
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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent and has not got ratio. So it's

524
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<v Speaker 1>a very fascinating fight. I do not expect it to

525
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<v Speaker 1>be some kind of great action fight, but I do

526
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<v Speaker 1>expect it to be a competitive, cagey, interesting, tension filled

527
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of fight where you really have to pay attention.

528
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 1>If you're scoring the fight, you got to really really

529
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<v Speaker 1>pay close attention because every little thing can count and

530
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>make a difference. And you know, again, when they fought

531
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<v Speaker 1>the first time around, there hadn't been an undisputed light

532
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>heavyweight champ in twenty five years. Since nineteen ninety nine

533
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 1>when Roy Jones did it. There had never been an

534
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>undisputed champion since there's been a four belt era and

535
00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:01.599
<v Speaker 1>better be A was able to do it, but Bibo

536
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that much behind. It was like, no, I thought

537
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>even maybe he's a half step in one round. I

538
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<v Speaker 1>mean whatever, but it's a just a it's a it's

539
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<v Speaker 1>a really good matchup between two top ten caliber pound

540
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<v Speaker 1>for pound fighters.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Has he learned from fight one? We're about to find

542
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<v Speaker 2>out what can he do differently again? You and I

543
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>are going to handicap his high stakes.

544
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, by the way, yeah, Turkey al chic back, you know,

545
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>back after David Benavite's defeated David Morrell in the light

546
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>heavyweight division, invited David to come and be as guests,

547
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<v Speaker 1>And from my understanding and what I am told that

548
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.759
<v Speaker 1>David will be on a plane or is on a

549
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<v Speaker 1>plane headed to Saudi Arabia to be ringside. Because he

550
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<v Speaker 1>is as the as the bizarrely unified WBA Regular champion

551
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>WBC Interim champion, he is the mandatory in two organizations

552
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 1>because a WBC has already said you're the mandatory at

553
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 1>light heavyweight by virtue of being the regular champion, you're

554
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>automatically the editor in the WBA. And on top of that,

555
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>he's the biggest name in the division. Uh and some

556
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>people would consider might bigger, maybe not the champion, but

557
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the name value, at least in this

558
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 1>side of the world, in terms of the money he generates.

559
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, David Benavides is is a significant fighter in

560
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<v Speaker 1>the division, probably the biggest name that there is, frankly,

561
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and so he's right there in line potentially to fight

562
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the winner as the mandatory perhaps later this year, be

563
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<v Speaker 1>it in Saudi Arabia, perhaps on a Saudi card that

564
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 1>they may, you know, do with some more events here

565
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. But I don't care who the

566
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<v Speaker 1>winner of the main event is, whether it's Bibel or

567
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<v Speaker 1>Better be It. You can't tell me you're not interested

568
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in seeing that victor take on David Benabez A fascinating,

569
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 1>really interesting fight.

570
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Amen, And so let's see what happened. Lots of options,

571
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.960
<v Speaker 2>lots of options, including the name Canelo Alvarez down the

572
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<v Speaker 2>road could be an option too against the undisputed winner here.

573
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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's it's taken on. Obviously, Bible has a

574
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<v Speaker 2>win over Canelo.

575
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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you right now there's probably zero chance

576
00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that Canelo will fight Better be It.

577
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>So that if he is the winner, if Bevil is

578
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the winner, who.

579
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Knows the one fight.

580
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Of course? Of course, all right, so we have that.

581
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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I need to mention because I was

582
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>derelict at the beginning because of all the chaos with

583
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.759
<v Speaker 2>the fighters moving around. Lamont Roach is on the pod

584
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>with you with Gervante Davis. We're going to play that

585
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>interview here in a few minutes as you spoke with

586
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 2>him as his battle with Gervonte Davis on pay per

587
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>view is next Saturday, March the first, So you'll hear

588
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 2>from Lamont Roach uh in a little bit here on

589
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the pipe. We just got we have so much on

590
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>this ri odd card. We got to keep going Dan Rayfield,

591
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>all right, So now we move down the card, and

592
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<v Speaker 2>I really believe for me, this is the fight that

593
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking the most forward to. That is Hams of

594
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Sharaz going for the WBC middleweight title with Carlos a Damas,

595
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a Damas who is a Dominican fighter, a hard body puncher.

596
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 2>There's there's a lot of intrigue Sharaz with the size,

597
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>with the height and the reach. I'm very intrigued by

598
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>this fight coming on Saturday. Give me a little more

599
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>in a preview.

600
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>About well, Schra's is probably the hottest guy in the

601
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>division right now. He is undefeated. He's been closely associated

602
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>with these read Season cards and made him a Read

603
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Season ambassador. You know, he's the house guy even though

604
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>he's not the champion, and you can take it to

605
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the bank that that's the guy that Turkey wants to

606
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>see win the fight. And he's coming off some worthwhile

607
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>victories that put him in a position that he is

608
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate contender to be fighting for now. He is

609
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the WBC's mandatory challenger, and you know he is undefeated.

610
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>But his run where he started really open eyes and

611
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>make people believers and take serious notice, goes back to

612
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 1>February of twenty twenty four. Had a big year in

613
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. He won three fights. He won all

614
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 1>them by knockout. He looked really good in all three fights.

615
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>The first one was back in February where he had

616
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.119
<v Speaker 1>a first round knockout against Leam Williams. Now, Allan Williams

617
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 1>might have been a little bit past his best days,

618
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 1>but no one had ever done that to Liam Williams,

619
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:55.799
<v Speaker 1>who's been a you know, was a good contender for

620
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>several years, so that was a first round destruction. Then

621
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<v Speaker 1>in a fight where there was a lot of sentiment

622
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on both sides to be quite honest, he was taken

623
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>on remember the five on five card that took place

624
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<v Speaker 1>in June. He was on Team Queensberry. He was matched

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<v Speaker 1>up with the matchroom fighter, Austin m. O. Williams, the

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated American fighter, and it was a good fight and

627
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<v Speaker 1>Hams of Shiraz was bigger, longer, and obviously he's stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>and he took Williams out in an eleventh round knockout.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very big win for him. And because

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<v Speaker 1>he was the captain of the team of Team Queensberry,

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<v Speaker 1>because he got the knock out, he got the extra point.

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<v Speaker 1>Then as people remember Frank Warren's team you know, steamrolled

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<v Speaker 1>and won by shutout against Eddie Hernstein. But he got

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<v Speaker 1>the extra point as the captain. Anyway, that was a

635
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<v Speaker 1>very impressive victory. Then he returned in September. He also

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<v Speaker 1>fought on the Wembley card when Joshua and d had

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<v Speaker 1>their fight. He fought on that undercard. He's from England,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's front of the home crowd and he knocked

639
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<v Speaker 1>out a fellow britt Tyler Denny. He won the European

640
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<v Speaker 1>Middleway title very impressively in the second round. Like just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not saying I thought he was going

642
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<v Speaker 1>to lose that fight. I fought for sure he would

643
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<v Speaker 1>win that fight, but I actually thought that that Denny

644
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<v Speaker 1>would hang in there for a little while, and he

645
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<v Speaker 1>just made it, you know, like a blitz and he

646
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<v Speaker 1>was done for her. And so now he has this

647
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<v Speaker 1>opportunity against Carlos Damas, who is taking on his mandatory,

648
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<v Speaker 1>is getting his biggest payday traveling. Look, Adamas has been

649
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<v Speaker 1>a good fighter for a while but does not have

650
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<v Speaker 1>the name recognition, hasn't achieved the notoriety, but he's got

651
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of solid wins. You know, if you go

652
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<v Speaker 1>back pre championship, you know he had defeated like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>in a close decision, he beat Sergei debrian Chenko, who

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the very best fighters out there. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>Charlot went the distance when with Juan Messias Montielle, Well

656
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<v Speaker 1>it was a Damas who blew him away in three rounds.

657
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<v Speaker 1>Didn't have to go to the distance with the guy

658
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<v Speaker 1>that was a you know, a domination for that fight,

659
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<v Speaker 1>and then he beat the former Juor Middleway title holder

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Williams, who had moved up and knocked him out

661
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<v Speaker 1>in the ninth round. That was on Showtime if you remember,

662
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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty three, and then he didn't really

663
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<v Speaker 1>look good in this particular fight, but he still won

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<v Speaker 1>pretty handily in terms of the scoring. He took on

665
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<v Speaker 1>Terrell Gachet back in June. That was on the same

666
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<v Speaker 1>card that was the doubleheader where he had Tank Davis

667
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<v Speaker 1>against Frank Martin and benavide Is against Alexander Votek. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the other pay per view fights that night was

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<v Speaker 1>a Domis dettending the Tunnle. She hasn't fought into June,

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<v Speaker 1>and like a lot of these guys, there's good money

671
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<v Speaker 1>and he's taken a show on the road to put

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<v Speaker 1>onto this fight. Now, I'm not sure that he can

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<v Speaker 1>compete in the sense of just the punching power that

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<v Speaker 1>Shiraz has, the freshness that Charaz has, and also Charaz

675
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<v Speaker 1>is like six foot three, which is giant from midway. Now,

676
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<v Speaker 1>it's not like Adamis is short. He's five to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty decent size for one hundred and sixty pounder,

678
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<v Speaker 1>not like a small guy. But I think he's gonna

679
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<v Speaker 1>be outgunned just in terms of the physical attributes height, breach, power, speed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's uphill battle, it seems to me, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So two other things though, too. A Damas was completely

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<v Speaker 2>screwed over by the WBC not mandating that Jermal Charlo

683
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<v Speaker 2>fight him or will strip you. And they waited and

684
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<v Speaker 2>he had to wait, and he waited and waited and

685
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>waited trying to get the Charlot fight and that never happened.

686
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<v Speaker 2>So that's the reason why he hasn't been very active,

687
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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, two fights in two years, headed into

688
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<v Speaker 2>this February showdown, and I like him as a body puncher.

689
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<v Speaker 2>When you watch him fight, I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get in the kitchen as we like to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and get after Shiraz, But stay tuned. I'm very intrigued

692
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<v Speaker 2>by this fight. And you and I sound like we

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<v Speaker 2>might be on opposite sides of the aisle on the

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<v Speaker 2>bet Us show.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you're tuning in, promise, if you're five eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and you're fighting a six to three guy and you

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<v Speaker 1>got inside that height disadvantage, you should be going after

698
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<v Speaker 1>the body, especially if it's one of your better attributes.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. We got to see if that will happen,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, But like we like to say, how much

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<v Speaker 2>would you pay now for the GINSU State Knives nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five twenty nine ninety five? My lord Rayfield, there's

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<v Speaker 2>still more and I think you I won't speak for you,

704
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<v Speaker 2>but you've spoken two or three times about how excited

705
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<v Speaker 2>and intrigued you are by this next one. Is this

706
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<v Speaker 2>may be your favorite fight that's not the main event.

707
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<v Speaker 2>Virgil Orti here and madram Off for the interim WBC

708
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<v Speaker 2>Junior middleweight title. What about that fight that is best

709
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<v Speaker 2>down on this card? But it's still intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a really good fight. I like this fight

711
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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I didn't rank it number two behind the

712
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>main event. I mean I actually have a piece on

713
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<v Speaker 1>my substack prior to the postponement or cancelation if you will,

714
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<v Speaker 1>of Parker and Dui. That was actually my second favorite

715
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<v Speaker 1>fight on the show. But I act and go read

716
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<v Speaker 1>that where I rank all seven fights and give sort

717
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<v Speaker 1>of my take on it. But in terms of a

718
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<v Speaker 1>virgual artis imagium off, there's nothing not to like about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Two prime guys, two guys that are good punchers, two

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<v Speaker 1>guys that can box, but also can definitely stand in

721
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 1>there and fight. You know. Virginal Artis went the distance

722
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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in his career back in the summer,

723
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<v Speaker 1>coming off one of the Fight of the Year contenders

724
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<v Speaker 1>when he had that incredible brawl against Sara Boachuk. He

725
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<v Speaker 1>got off the deck two times, ended up winning a

726
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<v Speaker 1>winning a majority decision. He ended up because of the decision,

727
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<v Speaker 1>he won the interim WBC one hundred and fifty four

728
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<v Speaker 1>pounds title from Boachuk. Now, remember Boachuk and Majimov were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to fight each other on the Fury and Usk undercart,

730
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<v Speaker 1>and then when that fight was made soon after it

731
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<v Speaker 1>was Magimov also signing to fight virgial Artis, and you

732
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<v Speaker 1>and I both and not just us, but basically everybody

733
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<v Speaker 1>with the brain was like, very no way, He's fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Boachuk and what everybody figures is a tough fight on

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<v Speaker 1>December twenty first, and then going to be back in

736
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<v Speaker 1>the ring on February twenty second against Virgil Ortiz. And

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, whether by a design or it was legit,

738
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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case, may be they pulled him. Bat claimed

739
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<v Speaker 1>the had bronchitis and he couldn't go through, so he

740
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<v Speaker 1>did not fight in December, and Boachuk fought and defeated

741
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 1>another opponent, and the Ortiz fight is now happening, and

742
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Majmov is in a bigger profile fight, and Majamov is

743
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>coming off not as exciting of a fight as what

744
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Virgil Ortiz had done against a good opponent. But he

745
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 1>also lost his world title. But he gave Terrence Crawford,

746
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>arguably TJ the toughest fight that Crawford has had in

747
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>his career. That was the main event when they did

748
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the read season. Folks put on the event in Los

749
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Angeles back in August. He gave Crawford all he could handle.

750
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<v Speaker 1>Is a really close fight. I mean, it wasn't a

751
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>great fight, but it was a very competitive and I

752
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>can understand why there were supporters Imaginemub that thought maybe

753
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>he just did enough to win the fight. So he

754
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>comes off the loss, but by the loss, he raised

755
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>his stock because you know, he gave one of the

756
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>best fighters in boxing such a really tough and good fight.

757
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And Ortiz, you know, we know what he's about, so

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00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this fight style wise, stakes wise, where they

759
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>are in their careers, they're you know what they've brought

760
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 1>to the table in their last couple of bouts, Like

761
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<v Speaker 1>this is like a can't miss kind of fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this matchup all right, so we're looking forward

763
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<v Speaker 2>to that one at one hundred and fifty four pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, good time for us to mention that

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<v Speaker 2>our friends at PPV dot com wants you to know

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<v Speaker 2>that if you want to see this re odd season

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<v Speaker 2>massive pay per views Saturday afternoon US time, adjust your

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<v Speaker 2>time zone accordingly. Is it breakfast? Is it bread? With

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<v Speaker 2>the Saudi pay per view? It may very well be

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<v Speaker 2>get excellent HD and even four K quality video right

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<v Speaker 2>from the riodd season pay per view that's being done.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, they're sponsors here of us, and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to let everybody know use PPV dot com for the

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<v Speaker 2>one off purchase. Dan Raypaiel what else.

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<v Speaker 1>The price on this pay per view? I'm not trying

778
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<v Speaker 1>to like be a salesman, but I'm just being real.

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<v Speaker 1>We see so many pay per views fifty sixty, sixty five,

780
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<v Speaker 1>seventy seventy five, eighty eighty five dollars for some of

781
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<v Speaker 1>these events. And you know, you buy them if you

782
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<v Speaker 1>want whatever. That's cool, and I buy them all, no problem.

783
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>But here's the point, though, for this magnitude of a show,

784
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 1>for the amount of great fights that are on it,

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00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 1>they have a price point. You have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>basically to the advent of pay perview in like the

787
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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties to find something this cheap, especially with this quality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the price in at least in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and anyway, the suggested price for this event

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>That is cheap that if you're if you are, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to steal it for that cheap, then

794
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<v Speaker 1>you should go fuck yourself. Like I don't steal pay

795
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<v Speaker 1>per view, but I get even though I don't approve

796
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't dig it, if it's an eighty dollars

797
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<v Speaker 1>pay per view, you're maybe stealing the signal, Like I

798
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of get it because that to me sometimes is

799
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too much what it should be at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six dollars, be spending that on like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a pizza and a case of beer or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and keep in mind the Turkey al Chic has

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<v Speaker 2>done this before with a couple of the previous pay

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<v Speaker 2>per views last year in saying, I believe it was

805
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the Joshua Dubois pay per view in September that especially

806
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<v Speaker 2>for the American audience, we're not going to make this

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine ninety ninety nine because people aren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy it in the United States in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>For so it's what I don't want to think on

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<v Speaker 1>their part by doing it at twenty six dollars, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're making up for it in volume. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not because the card's not good, it's great. I just

814
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<v Speaker 1>think that American audiences are not used to purchasing a

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view that starts like the pre shows at

816
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<v Speaker 1>like ten thirty in the morning. The main event, you know,

817
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<v Speaker 1>the first fight's like eleven am. Main event probably around

818
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<v Speaker 1>you know, six o'clock or thereabouts. It's a long day

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<v Speaker 1>of fights. But the point is, if you are interested

820
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<v Speaker 1>in boxing, if you are a fan, you can't possibly

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong at twenty six dollars. And just again, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish they were paying me extra to say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just being real and leave me. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>a shitty card and it was, we would over price.

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<v Speaker 2>We would say it, and we do say it. We

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<v Speaker 2>have said why. I mean, you can definitely question why

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<v Speaker 2>was Benavite's morell an eighty dollars pay per view? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that, I mean compared to this, Are you

829
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<v Speaker 2>kidding me?

830
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But what you're getting for.

831
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>The money, what you're getting for the money.

832
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>The eighty dollars Benavide' is morel pay per view based

833
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 1>on Benevite's name, based on the level of promotion that

834
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 1>PBC did in America comp air to what the Saudis do,

835
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>which is next to zero, and you combine it with

836
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the normal start time that we're used to here in

837
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>North America, and even at eighty dollars the Benavidia's pay

838
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>per view, I guarantee you probably gonna probably did I note, well,

839
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the number is yet from the

840
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 1>fight on Saturday, but I can guarantee you when it's

841
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 1>all said and done, Benavidie's morrel will have done way

842
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>more in terms of buys than.

843
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying. I'm not suggesting which one's gonna get

844
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 2>purchased more. I'm just saying for the boxing fan, you

845
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 2>get fatigued in the wallet and the economy is the

846
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.559
<v Speaker 2>economy when you keep hearing eighty dollars eighty four dollars.

847
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.199
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the read card in Los Angeles,

848
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that a ninety dollars pay per view with Terrence

849
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Crawford in the main event? I believe it was like

850
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>eighty or ninety dollars, same kind of thing. So remember

851
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this one. This one is more affordably priced and we

852
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857
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<v Speaker 2>We love that about them, beautiful stuff. I promise we're

858
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>getting to Lamont roach and just a Rayphiel again. You're

859
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to recap all of this, uh.

860
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think any in one podeline with all that

861
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>we have. All right, So we mentioned Jang and Caba Yell,

862
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 2>all right, So I'm intrigued with Cabby Yell against a

863
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Jang that obviously pulverized Joe Joyce and demolished Deontay Wilder. Yes,

864
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Joseph Parker beat him. Give me a little more on

865
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the intrigue here, Jang Older, Bigger, South, Paul, give me

866
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 2>a little more on this. And it's a huge moment

867
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 2>for Cabby Yell to take it, to take the step

868
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 2>against a reputable fighter.

869
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Well big Bang. His whole career can be encapsulated in

870
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>his last what five fights, since he really stepped up,

871
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>because for most of his career he fought nothing but

872
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>drek and there was a lot of potential And I

873
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>remember talking to different people involved with his career telling

874
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 1>me how great the guy was, and my response was, okay, fine,

875
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 1>is he going to fight somebody that's got to, you know,

876
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>takes a breath or just going to keep fighting one

877
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 1>corpse after the other. So in twenty twenty two, he

878
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 1>fought Phillip Pergovic, who was undefeated on the rise, and

879
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he lost the unanimous decision, but he did score a

880
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>knockdown in that fight against Hergovic, and it was a

881
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>very close fight and it was competitive. A lot of

882
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 1>people thought that Jang may have won, so okay, fine.

883
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Now he comes back after that, and even if you

884
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>thought he lost and you're sort of not so sure,

885
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>what is all about. Remember at that time, Joe Joyce

886
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>was undefeated, was red hot pop contender, known for an

887
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 1>iron chin, known for a great power, his huge size,

888
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>his amateur background. And what happened. Joe Joyce knocked him

889
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>out not once but twice, and did so in fairly

890
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.159
<v Speaker 1>dominating fashion. Took him out in the sixth round in

891
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the first fight, knocked him out in the third round

892
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>in the second fight. That was his two fights in

893
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the calendar year twenty twenty three. So with those two victories,

894
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>now he's on top of the world. Basically, you know,

895
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>very highly regarded guy, and he's got big things in

896
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 1>front of me. He had won the WBO's interim title

897
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in the first fight against Joe Joyce, and then he

898
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 1>took a very close majority decision loss to Parker that

899
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>cast him that intern belt. But if there was a

900
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>silver lining, he scored two knockdowns against Joseph Parker, he

901
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 1>still lost the decision, and it was that kind of

902
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 1>fight where you could see Joe Parker getting off the

903
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 1>floor two times but still doing enough in the other

904
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>rounds to win the decision. And then he came back

905
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>off that loss and as you mentioned, pulverized in his

906
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 1>spectacular knockout and basically finished off Deontay Wilder spectacularly. That

907
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>was last June in the fifth round, and so this

908
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>will be his first fight since. Now Cabiel is undefeated,

909
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>your boy from Germany twenty five and oh was seventeen knockouts,

910
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's a guy that has really made a career

911
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in Riad thanks to read season cards, because his last

912
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>two fights have been the so called big fights he's had.

913
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Before that, he was kind of doing his thing on

914
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the smaller cards in Germany and winning, but not against

915
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>big names. And when he got the opportunity in Riat

916
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 1>in December of twenty twenty three, that was the day

917
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 1>of reck card, he knocked out then highly regarded favored

918
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Arslan Beck Machmandov. Now Mackmandov has proven that he's not

919
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 1>that much since, but no one had ever done it

920
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to him, and it was Agi Cabiol that took him

921
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 1>out in four rounds, very impressively, knocked him down three times,

922
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>took away his undefeated record, and that made people open

923
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.039
<v Speaker 1>their eyes. Now he came back in May of twenty

924
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty four in his second fight in Riad against another

925
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>undefeated fighter. But this guy a more legitimate than macmdou

926
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>at least in my opinion, A very good technical boxer

927
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 1>who could also punch big man Frank Sanchez, Cuban that

928
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>had also been winning his fights and sometimes frustrating his

929
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>opponents because he wasn't maybe the most exciting, but a

930
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>very very skillful boxer, but also with good power and agi.

931
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Cabill never waivered, took the fight with no problem, knocked

932
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 1>him down twice in the seventh round, and stopped him

933
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>in the seventh round. That was a very big win

934
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 1>for Cabrio and now he goes in this fight with

935
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the Zilly Zang would be his biggest win so far.

936
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you think about Macmadu Vin Sanchez, I still think

937
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 1>a win even at this point. Again, Jang is a

938
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 1>bigger deal than those two fights. But that's a very

939
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 1>intriguing fight. You got Jang, a big guy, six foot six,

940
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>south pop, big bang with the big left hand and

941
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>uh and you know, and Cabiell is a much smaller guy.

942
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not six foot six, he's like three four inches shorter.

943
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>He'll probably be outweighed, you know, by a good thirty

944
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 1>pounds maybe more. You know, Jang was like two eighty ish,

945
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Cabiel goes around two forty five. Good matchup. And like

946
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know why it's the case. For

947
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever it's worth, they are fighting for the interim WBC title.

948
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessary the champion Azusik, he just fought in December.

949
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's the WBC doing their thing. But put that aside.

950
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>This fight and the winner is going to be in

951
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a great position within this weight class.

952
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And and again Kydie Yelle has been a name that's

953
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>been mentioned a couple of times as a possible opponent

954
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>for Tyson Fury and for others. Big stage for him

955
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 2>here again, I one more and then I promise we're

956
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>getting to Lamont Roach getting ready to challenge Tank Day

957
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 2>and the Dan conversation with him. And that's Joshua Buazzi

958
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and Callum Smith WBO interim light heavyweight title fight. Again,

959
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 2>the Brits care probably more than we do about this.

960
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of the light heavyweights and the fact

961
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that better BV and b BOL is now you know,

962
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the full law and undisputed main event this has some

963
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.320
<v Speaker 2>intrigue at the light heavyweight level obviously.

964
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean the winner is going to be the WBILL

965
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>mandatory for the winner of the main event, whether they

966
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>get that fight in the near future, or they have

967
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 1>the weight, or maybe it gets vacated, who knows, but

968
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be in that position or be elevated

969
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>eventually if in fact the WBO title is vacated. But

970
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 1>in the UK, Josh Bazzi against Collen Smith would be

971
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 1>the main event any day of the week. There's not

972
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>even a shadow of a doubt. And unless they change

973
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the order at the moment, this is the opening title

974
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>fight of these seven title fights on the cart. There's

975
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of prospect fights beforehand, but in terms of

976
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the main twelve rounders.

977
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>In America, if you're having brunch, bacon, eggs and buwatzi,

978
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Callum Smith, Yes.

979
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So this is this is a good fight. I mean,

980
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>is an Olympian, he's nineteen and o, he's thirteen knockouts.

981
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of coming into his own. He's been on

982
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a nice run. He's sally getting a little more active

983
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>than he had been. He's coming off of a split decision.

984
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>But a good fun fight against Philly Hutchinson. That was

985
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a fight that I think a lot of people have

986
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>thought could have been a toss up. That was back

987
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in September. Before that, he had a great brawl that

988
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 1>he won against his good friend Dan Aziz that was,

989
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, a big deal in the UK. Was for

990
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the British and the Commonwealth title, and you know, and

991
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 1>he's also defeated guys like Krek Richards, who has been

992
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a good contender for a long time.

993
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 1>And now he's taken on Callen Smith, who I still

994
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 1>would say his best opponent so far. Callum is a

995
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 1>reputable guy. I mean, the guy's thirty and two. He's

996
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>got two losses. One was a decision to Canelo Alvarez

997
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>in a super middleweight for two belts at super middleweight,

998
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and the other loss was when he got knocked out

999
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>by Arthur Better BF back end January of twenty twenty four.

1000
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>But other than beevil, who doesn't get knocked out? When

1001
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>they faced Arthur Better VIV he had moved up from

1002
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 1>super middleweight, he had won a couple of fights. He

1003
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>was Arthur's mandatory. They did that fight, Arthur traveled to

1004
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Quebec City or rather coun Smith traveled to Quebec City,

1005
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, in the province of Quebec, which

1006
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>is where better BM is now based and has lived

1007
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and trained his entire pro career. So he was the

1008
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>big favorite. But cown Smith was fearless in that fight,

1009
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, despite getting knocked out in losing, It's not

1010
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 1>like he fought a bad fight, like he was hanging

1011
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in the fight, even though he didn't win rounds. But

1012
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like a completely one sided devastation until the

1013
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>very end, obviously. So I still think that he's a

1014
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty good fighter. I don't know how much he's got left,

1015
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>but Biwatzi's never fought anybody like him. He has won

1016
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>one fight since then, scored a knockout on an undercard,

1017
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, against just a like a kind of get

1018
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>well type opponent. But this is an intriguing matchup. I

1019
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is a this is definitely a fight

1020
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that most people are overlooking because you know, look, Glatzi

1021
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 1>and Smith, Neither one of them are these huge personalities,

1022
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>neither one of them has like a scintillating style. They're

1023
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 1>just really good pros. They do their thing. They can

1024
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 1>compete at the championship level, and it's the opener of

1025
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>these seven world title fights, but in some ways it's

1026
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the most meaningful fights because of the fact

1027
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that the winner is in position to challenge the main

1028
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 1>event winner at some point.

1029
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there we go on the preview part of this.

1030
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Shall we segue to next weekend and March first and

1031
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>probably fights at that as long as to look at

1032
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 2>your phone real quick. I'm being serious. You don't have

1033
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 2>an alert that any other of the fighters' names have changed,

1034
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>and we don't have a replacement fighter.

1035
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Good. I think we're good.

1036
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Can we go to bed on Thursday night believing that

1037
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 2>we're good at least until Friday morning? Stay tuned. So

1038
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 2>now we move forward to Lamont Roach and Tank Davis.

1039
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>This is coming next weekend, March first, Brooklyn, New York.

1040
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to wait for fight week as Roach

1041
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>gets ready to battle Tank Davis and the PBC Prime

1042
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 2>pay per view. Here we go again with the pay

1043
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 2>per views here from Lamont Roach right now, including about

1044
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 2>the regional rivalry with Davis and this big opportunity has

1045
00:48:58.519 --> 00:48:59.400
<v Speaker 2>hear from him right now?

1046
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's my pleasure to be joined on our podcast.

1047
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 1>This week by the WBA Junior Lightweight Champ of the World,

1048
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Lamont Road Junior. But Lamont, you have a big fight

1049
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>coming up. You're not gonna be fighting in the junior

1050
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>lightweight division. You are moving up to lightweight to challenge

1051
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 1>the wo WBA champion in the lightweight division, Jervanta Tank Davis,

1052
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 1>in a pay per view fight from PBC on Prime

1053
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Video also PPV dot Com, will take place on March

1054
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>first at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York. And

1055
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 1>welcome you to the show. And I'm good to talk

1056
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 1>to you. What I'd like to know I from your

1057
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>first Lamon is you know this fight's sort of been

1058
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of rumors maybe what happened, maybe

1059
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't. You were a name that was always sort

1060
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of like at the top of the Tank list of

1061
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what might be coming up for him. So could you

1062
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 1>just recount to me what your initial thoughts were when

1063
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 1>you actually got offered the fighting. Knew this was a possibility, so.

1064
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 3>When we actually as soon as we got the call,

1065
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 3>it was like, hell, yeah, honestly, that's about it.

1066
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Like Ruhig is in the car, I think it was

1067
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 4>me and my dad's in the car on the.

1068
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Way to the airport go back home, and it was

1069
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 3>like he was just like, you know, changs changes called

1070
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and he was like, we wanted to fight, of course.

1071
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you've never been a guy that's been turning

1072
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 1>down fight. So that's something I know from having covered

1073
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>your whole career. If you go back to twenty nineteen,

1074
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>amount you had a chance to fight Jamelle Herring back

1075
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>then for the WBO Junior Light White title, your first

1076
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>opportunity or you know, a big prospect. You were undefeated.

1077
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I believe you were the mandatory challenger at that time

1078
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.079
<v Speaker 1>for his title, and you know you gave a good fight,

1079
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it came up a little bit short,

1080
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>loss the decision, and I just wondered, you know, it

1081
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:36.800
<v Speaker 1>took you a little while to get back to the

1082
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>position to fight for another world title. What do you

1083
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like you learned from that first loss? You know,

1084
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>despite it being competitive, uh, the fact that they.

1085
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Aren't going to give me anything, like like you said,

1086
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 3>it was it was a good fight, It was a

1087
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 3>good effort, but it just wasn't enough. I know, going

1088
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.719
<v Speaker 3>into things, especially as an underdog things, I'm gonna you

1089
00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying going to be that they're probably

1090
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 3>going to be stacked against me, so I just have

1091
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 3>to I just had to take matters into my own

1092
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 3>hands and make sure that I give no doubt that

1093
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I should win, you know, the rest of my bouts

1094
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 3>going on throughout my career.

1095
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Well you have done that because you have won six

1096
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>fights in a row since that particular fight, and in

1097
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, November of twenty twenty three, you got

1098
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 1>the chance to fight for a title again against Hector

1099
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Luis Garcia in Las Vegas, and you outpointed him in

1100
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 1>a close fight. You won the WBA title, and I wondered, Actually,

1101
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, you know guys who you know, they

1102
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.199
<v Speaker 1>they don't get anything. Like you said, nothing handed to Lamont. Roach,

1103
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 1>took your time, prospect you know, into main event fights eventually,

1104
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, really worked your way to get that opportunity.

1105
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Nearly ten years as a professional, from the time you started.

1106
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Tell WinGen you won the title. What did it feel

1107
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 1>like to finally get it and know that all that

1108
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 1>hard work, all that you know, that decade of preparing

1109
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 1>for that moment, what did that mean to you?

1110
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean everything to me, just like you said it

1111
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 3>was a whole bunch of hard work, a lot of sacrifice,

1112
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of faith and just trusting myself,

1113
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 3>trusting my team and knowing that we'll be will be

1114
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 3>exactly where we were supposed to be.

1115
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>You got a chance in June of last year, June

1116
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty four, to defend the title for the

1117
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>first time. I know you had spoke about what it

1118
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>would mean to you to have a homecoming fight, to

1119
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>have a world championship fight in Washington, d C. Where

1120
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know where you're from originally, and you made that

1121
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 1>dream come true. You had a very good performance, a

1122
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 1>knockout victory against the undefeated Fergla McCrory in front of

1123
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>your fans in the district, had a good crowd there.

1124
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Knocked out in the eighth round, pretty dominating victory. And

1125
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, you know, I hear from people they talk

1126
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 1>about making the dream come true. I talked recently with

1127
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Keishawn Davis about him and his brothers wanting to have

1128
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a homecoming fight and that was a dream for them.

1129
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 1>They finally got to accomplish that, And I asked him

1130
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>this question. I'm curious your response to it as well.

1131
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>How did the reality of having the title fight at

1132
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 1>home compared to the dream for all those years you had.

1133
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 4>I think it matched up to me. It matched up.

1134
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:55.880
<v Speaker 3>It was something that I wanted to do, not only

1135
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 3>for myself, but for everyone that's been fogging me since

1136
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I started my family, stretching my close family that that

1137
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 3>aren't able to make it out to La Vegas, you

1138
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, all.

1139
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 4>The other states that.

1140
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I fought in Puerto Rico.

1141
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 4>Mexico, like out of the country and stuff like that.

1142
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 3>So it was it was very satisfying for me. It

1143
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 3>was honestly just a dream come true. And you know,

1144
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.239
<v Speaker 3>getting a dance in front of my home crowd is

1145
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 3>It's just it.

1146
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Was just fun.

1147
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It was a crazy atmosphere, I mean, that's for sure.

1148
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 1>But the fight with you and Gervonte was discussed for

1149
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe being you know, at the end of last year,

1150
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that fight you just mentioned that you defended the title

1151
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 1>was in June. It didn't happen. There was you know,

1152
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really there was issues over the venue. It

1153
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be in Houston, a lot of conversations. Ultimately

1154
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.039
<v Speaker 1>it did not happen, rescheduled, and now it's taking place

1155
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 1>on March first, As I mentioned, was there any kind

1156
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of frustration of only having the one fight last year

1157
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and kind of having to put this off and waiting

1158
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and waiting and waiting to get it all locked in?

1159
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Uh, just just a little bit, yeah, honestly, because it's

1160
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>not like I'm signed the PBC or obviously not signed

1161
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 3>the GTD either, So you know what I'm saying, Like,

1162
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 3>it's not like I'm I'm.

1163
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 4>In the loop as soon as every decision is made.

1164
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 4>So it is a little.

1165
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Frustrating, But at the end of.

1166
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 4>The day, it is what it is. It's boxing, man.

1167
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.519
<v Speaker 3>You never know what you're going to get, and you know,

1168
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 3>it's just you just stay on board for the ride

1169
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 3>for real.

1170
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 4>For real.

1171
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I was always ready, no matter the case, no matter

1172
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 3>whatever was going on with the venue. Honestly, I just

1173
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 3>think he wasn't ready. I think they, you know, scheduled

1174
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 3>it for when they think he'll be prepared for the match,

1175
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.119
<v Speaker 3>and you know, so we was just fine tuning that

1176
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 3>all the way up until it was Tyn of Rock

1177
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 3>and Road.

1178
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>One of the things a lot of folks have talked

1179
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>about that is a certainly part of the storyline, if

1180
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.079
<v Speaker 1>you will of the fight between yourself and Tank is

1181
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that you fought as amateurs. You knew each other from

1182
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 1>those days. You're about the same age, you know, separated,

1183
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but you're you're actually younger than him. You're twenty nine,

1184
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he is thirty. Can you give me your side of

1185
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the story, so to say, about the memories of what

1186
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>occurred in the amateurs? How many times did you fight?

1187
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 1>What happened and how do you remember those times?

1188
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 3>We thought twice they were very close, competitive fights. And

1189
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, the storyline that attests to how close they

1190
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 3>were is the fact that we fought in the same

1191
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.800
<v Speaker 3>tournament before twice in the same tournament. You know that

1192
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen. We fought in the regional championship and I

1193
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 3>lost in Baltimore, and we sent the tape to USA

1194
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Boxing and they sent me an at large bid because

1195
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.159
<v Speaker 3>they was like, it was a little this this this

1196
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 3>outcome is a little iffy, so to say.

1197
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 4>So they sent me to the nationals.

1198
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 3>As well with an at large bid and I was

1199
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 3>on the other side of the bracket.

1200
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 4>He was on the other side of the bracket. We

1201
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 4>met up in the championship and he beat me in

1202
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 4>a close fight. So you know, it is what it is.

1203
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I think I want a second fight. I think the

1204
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 4>second fight I did better than the first fight. So

1205
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 4>it is what it is. And we do got the

1206
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:01.199
<v Speaker 4>tape too.

1207
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I think we're probably the only we're probably the only

1208
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 3>people who do have a tape only put it on

1209
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 3>YouTube or something.

1210
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a while. I'd love to watch that if

1211
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you did. What year was that, Alamont? What year do

1212
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember? So do you think? I mean, like you said,

1213
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 1>if they whatever, whether you lost or not, you you

1214
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>believe that they were close and competitive. I guess to

1215
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the extent that even USA boxing, you know, basically puts

1216
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 1>you in to uh be on the road to a

1217
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>possible rematch. And I've asked this the fighters when they

1218
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 1>fought in amateur fights and then they meet up as professionals.

1219
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Some say it does, some say it doesn't. Do you

1220
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>think there's any bearing at all because you have at

1221
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 1>least a cursory knowledge of having been in the ring

1222
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>with him. Yes you've evolved, Yes it's a while ago,

1223
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.719
<v Speaker 1>but you know you've been face to face with them

1224
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>inside the boxing ring. That doesn't mean anything is to

1225
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:44.159
<v Speaker 1>go into the professional fight.

1226
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, Hmmm, maybe not honestly if we honestly speaking, because

1227
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm a totally different fighter.

1228
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Uh, I think he might be.

1229
00:56:58.480 --> 00:56:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

1230
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 3>But when it comes down to like because it's personal,

1231
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Like the fight itself is not personal. When I'm talking

1232
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:11.000
<v Speaker 3>about the familiar, the familiarity with him is personal. Like

1233
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I know him fairly better than a lot of I mean,

1234
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 3>damn there everybody he probably fought, so, uh, you know,

1235
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.239
<v Speaker 3>we actually have history, like outside of our fights.

1236
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, we sparred a few times.

1237
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:31.199
<v Speaker 3>I know, I just know how he operates from from

1238
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 3>what I know from from the encounters we have. You know,

1239
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 3>we've been in We've been in the same spaces since

1240
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<v Speaker 3>we were about ten, you know what I'm saying.

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00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:43.679
<v Speaker 4>So that's a long time. And my dad coached him on.

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00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 3>The on the National Golden Gloves team to a to

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00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 3>a national title, uh, to win the National Golden Gloves.

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00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 4>So it's just it's it's it's a lot of factors there.

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<v Speaker 1>I do get to feel out, I do you think

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00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>the feeling there's a lot. You know, you guys may

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00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>not be best friends, but like you said, you're familiar

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00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 1>that there's definitely a healthy respect for peing you guys.

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00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, for sure. It's definitely healthy. Respect cool, Like you.

1250
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Know what I'm saying outside of the outside of the boxing,

1251
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying outside of the boxing

1252
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and the.

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00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Ek me I'm cool.

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00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean like, if you ask him, he'll be He'll

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00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 3>tell you that we folks like people.

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00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 4>So it's cool, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to ask this though. You know you are

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00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>from Washington, d C. You had a great crowd at

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00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>your fight in June. He's from Baltimore, that's, you know,

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00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:27.079
<v Speaker 1>just up the road I'm in. I live in that area,

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00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 1>so I know the rivalry. Uh you know that. So

1262
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it felt like this is a DMV fight Capitol One Arena.

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00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 1>He had a huge gate there when he fought the

1264
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 1>guy you beat for the title in Hector Luis Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a great crowd for years. DC would be

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00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>absolutely going crazy Baltimore for this fight. So nothing against Brooklyn, York.

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00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Wonderful venue, great fight city obviously, Barclay Center, first class

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00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 1>all the way, covered many many fights there. How in

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00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the world is this fight not in the DMV Washington

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<v Speaker 1>d C.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about it, I think So, you know, he's

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00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:03.199
<v Speaker 3>a superstar, so I'm pretty sure. Like I'm thinking they're

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00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 3>thinking about how the crowd is normally for you know,

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00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 3>pro Jamonte and the crowd in DC would definitely be

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00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:15.599
<v Speaker 3>at least fifty to fifty.

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00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And that's just at least so that might be a thing.

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00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 4>Probably didn't want me.

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00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 3>To have a home field advantage or what.

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00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Application may be. But we could have did it anywhere

1280
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 4>in the area. Honestly, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.880
<v Speaker 4>did you want it in the area? I would have.

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00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Preferred it, Yeah, But to me, he man, we could

1283
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 3>fight in Africa for all I can.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so when you go into the ring, I mean,

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00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 1>we all know Gervonte Davis is a tremendous puncher. Doesn't

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00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 1>throw a lot of punches, but he's knocked out virtually

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00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody and he's just been a dominating figure. You are

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00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously more of a supreme boxer. You didn get a

1289
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>knockout of your last fight, though, so I wonder how

1290
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>do you plan to deal with that punching power?

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00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:02.039
<v Speaker 3>Should we bespawn bigger guys and uh we're gonnaspawn guys that.

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01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 4>Are considered punchers.

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01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, it's a totally different story once you

1294
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 3>get in there than ay ounces and oh.

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01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 4>But I've been punching him. I've been pushing the face.

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01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:12.719
<v Speaker 3>When I was Now you though, man, like you know

1297
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.960
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like if his better think a little more,

1298
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, they might sting a little more.

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01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna sting a little more.

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01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 3>But trust me, I like to think I got a chin,

1301
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 3>never been down an amateur or professional, never been hurt like

1302
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 3>to like to the chin or whatever the case may be.

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01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 4>So it is what it is. Like we ready.

1304
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Then the thing is, we're gonna see how he.

1305
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Reacts when he gets hit by my my punches.

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01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Well, if you've been getting hits into or not,

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01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say, better at you than me from that standpoint.

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01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And I looked over his record just as I was

1309
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to talk to you, and I was sort

1310
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 1>of thinking to myself, Okay, he fought an older, sort

1311
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of not near his best gamboa who was obviously a

1312
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 1>great boxer, electrifying talent and a gold medal winner in

1313
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, but he wasn't at his best if you

1314
01:00:57.960 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 1>take him out of the equation. I was looking and like,

1315
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you're still a top press prime guy World champ. Uh.

1316
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like looking at that record that Lamar Roach junr.

1317
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Is probably the best pure boxer he'll ever have faced

1318
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 1>so far in his professional career. What is your what

1319
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 1>is your take on that that maybe you've got the

1320
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 1>skills to really cause him some trouble with the boxing

1321
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>ability that you possess.

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01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 3>That's a fact that everything you just said is definitely

1323
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 3>a fact.

1324
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 4>It's a fact for sure.

1325
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 3>And they know that though I think they're going to

1326
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.840
<v Speaker 3>prepare they I think I know they're going to prepare

1327
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 3>for you know, what I have to bring to the table,

1328
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Like they know that one hundred for a fact that

1329
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm the best all around like boxer that he's going.

1330
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 4>To be in a ring with.

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01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:42.840
<v Speaker 1>When they talk about who they want to see a

1332
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.119
<v Speaker 1>tank fight, I'll wrap up with this. Uh. They talk

1333
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 1>about wanting to see a tank against of course Stevenson

1334
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 1>a unification. They talk about a ta Fimo Lopez fight.

1335
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.679
<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of conversation they tried to make

1336
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:57.679
<v Speaker 1>recently a Lomachenko fight. He elected to take some time off. Uh.

1337
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't mention Lamar Roach I've hurt people like kind

1338
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:03.639
<v Speaker 1>of poo pooh, the fight, say, you know, not much.

1339
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 1>He's you know, they're upset about the fight. I'm like,

1340
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 1>why this is a really good boxer against a really

1341
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.599
<v Speaker 1>good puncher. They got that rivalry from the home you know,

1342
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.320
<v Speaker 1>from the home region, And so when they don't mention

1343
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:18.440
<v Speaker 1>your name and they kind of overlook you and I'm

1344
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 1>not just kissing your rand because we're doing the interview,

1345
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think it's unfair. But why do you

1346
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 1>think that that is that they look at those other

1347
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 1>names but they don't include Alamont Roach Junior in that

1348
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 1>conversation of like a worthy opponent for Tank Davis.

1349
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1350
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Mainly probably because I'm not known to a lot of

1351
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 3>casual fans and people who don't really know or are

1352
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 3>in tune with boxing and it's boxing it in its entirety,

1353
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:49.719
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like, some people really just

1354
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 3>don't know, so that might be a factor. And like

1355
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I said, he's a megas, he's a megastar as a superstar,

1356
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:04.199
<v Speaker 3>and he has been knocking everybody out, so you know

1357
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:05.639
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like, so you know what I'm saying,

1358
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Like there's pieces that go together that would make people

1359
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.159
<v Speaker 3>say what they say about the fight or whatever the

1360
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 3>case may be. I'm not a worthy opponent, but for real, real,

1361
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of profanity for them.

1362
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 4>That's about it, all right.

1363
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.599
<v Speaker 1>So then to the final question that what would a

1364
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 1>victory mean to you, not only a world title, but

1365
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 1>knocking off you know, like you said one of the

1366
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:29.000
<v Speaker 1>biggest stars in boxing.

1367
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 4>That it's gonna it's gonna mean so much to me.

1368
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.079
<v Speaker 3>But it's definitely gonna uh, it's definitely just gonna be this,

1369
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna this is gonna be the start of my

1370
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>my legacy, brun you know, like you know how some

1371
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.559
<v Speaker 3>people have a run like Roy Jones was champion and

1372
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:49.119
<v Speaker 3>so many way claus for teen years. Pak yall moved

1373
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:53.480
<v Speaker 3>up from one twelve all the way to fifty four

1374
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 3>to knock everybody. Like you know what I'm saying, a

1375
01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 3>staple in it. This is my staple right here, because

1376
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 3>trust me, after this, I'm gonna go banana.

1377
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Trust me.

1378
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Well, that's big words. I'll look forward to

1379
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing if you can back them up on March first

1380
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.920
<v Speaker 1>at Barclayson and Brooklyn Lamont. Thank you very much for

1381
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the time.

1382
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I wish you the best luck in the fight, all right, No,

1383
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:13.400
<v Speaker 4>doubt appreciate you.

1384
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, again that fight coming next weekend for March

1385
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 2>one fight we coming up and again you got a

1386
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.360
<v Speaker 2>chance to see him. I'm still can we just say this,

1387
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm still puzzled how they couldn't make this happen at

1388
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.320
<v Speaker 2>least in the region, the Baltimore Washington region, find a

1389
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 2>venue because that angle you kept talking about, that angle,

1390
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.199
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's in Brooklyn, New York. You could

1391
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 2>have put it in Las Vegas, you could put it

1392
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 2>on the Moon. It's not the same as the regional

1393
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 2>hatred there from Lamont and Broach in Tank Davis. That's

1394
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:44.920
<v Speaker 2>me saying that go ahead.

1395
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, there's definitely not hatred between these

1396
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 1>two guys. There's a healthy competition, no doubt about it.

1397
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 1>They did fight twice as amateurs, as you heard Lamont

1398
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about. He did lose. What he said, we're two

1399
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.960
<v Speaker 1>closest fights and the amateurs, but he competed these guys.

1400
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 1>They respect each other, I believe. I don't think there's hate. Uh,

1401
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 1>they're not enemies, but they're competitors. They both want to win. Obviously.

1402
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I like I like Roach's confidence. I like the fact

1403
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.039
<v Speaker 1>that he talked about how he's never been really badly

1404
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 1>hurt or knocked down or or or or you know

1405
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it rocked in any particular way. As a pro, He's

1406
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 1>fought some good fighters. I know a lot of people

1407
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 1>dumped on the fight when it was made. I've never

1408
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 1>been one to think this was like a bad fight.

1409
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you said to me, is it the

1410
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.039
<v Speaker 1>number one fight that you wanted to see travant to

1411
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Davis take part in? I would be less than honest

1412
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 1>if I said yes. But you know, I can't make

1413
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.119
<v Speaker 1>him fight certain guys. But if you're going for Lamont

1414
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 1>roach a regional arrival, a world champion in his own right,

1415
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.719
<v Speaker 1>who's got the balls to do the fight against you,

1416
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and he's not afraid to do so, and and he's

1417
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a good boxer, you know, he's the best probably pure

1418
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 1>boxer that Tank Davis will have face if you take

1419
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a look at Tank's resume, Like, I think it's an

1420
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.159
<v Speaker 1>interesting matchup. Uh, And I hope it's a good fight.

1421
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's hope. So we'll talk more about it next week,

1422
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:03.440
<v Speaker 2>shall we rap with some nostalgia? And Uh, I always

1423
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 2>when this comes around, I always look forward to talking

1424
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:10.280
<v Speaker 2>about just how massive the crowd was It was thirty

1425
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 2>two years ago today, Dan Rayfield February twentieth, nineteen ninety

1426
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.719
<v Speaker 2>three that Julio Cesar, Chavez and Greg Haggins set the

1427
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 2>all time outdoor record for the biggest.

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01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Boxing outdoor or indoor.

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01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, from one hundred and well indoor obviously, Rayfaeld, Well, yeah,

1430
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the biggest one hundred and thirty two thousand people, and

1431
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 2>as Texas died, I'm still blown away, even with seats

1432
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.599
<v Speaker 2>on the soccer pitch, on the soccer how did they

1433
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 2>fit one hundred and thirty two thousand in Well, they

1434
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 2>did last two hundred and forty seven one thirty Did

1435
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.840
<v Speaker 2>you do the official Ticke account? One thirty two to

1436
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 2>forty seven, one hundred and thirty two thousand, two hundred

1437
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and forty seven people as Texas Stadium, Mexico City, people

1438
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.960
<v Speaker 2>on top of people, on top of people, and Chavez

1439
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.199
<v Speaker 2>beat the crap out of Greg Hagins. You did a

1440
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 2>whole whole lot of crap talking, a whole lot of

1441
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:08.400
<v Speaker 2>baiting and boasting about what he was going to do,

1442
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and Chavez brutally beat him up.

1443
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 1>He made the mistake of saying that Java is that

1444
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 1>all he had done was fight you want.

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01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 2>To cab drivers?

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01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Java showed him that he was in that

1447
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:22.199
<v Speaker 1>same level. By the way, it's an outdoor stadium that's gigantic,

1448
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and when you put him on the field, you can

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01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 1>get even that much more people on it. It was

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01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a spectacle of spectacles.

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01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.480
<v Speaker 2>You have to remember me comprehend aren't They just fought

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01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 2>in the Louisian I mean, I'm sorry, they just had

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01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl in Louisiana. Super Dome right all right?

1454
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.320
<v Speaker 2>That building, because I've been in there so many different times,

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01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.199
<v Speaker 2>has about seventy five thousand seats. Okay, So for the

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01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Ali Speinks fight, they had somewhere in the neighborhood of

1457
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:50.800
<v Speaker 2>what sixty sixty five thousand putting seats. I can't fathom

1458
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand more people in that super Dome, That's what

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01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.639
<v Speaker 2>well I can put it like, that's ridiculous.

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01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 1>The biggest I've ever been in yes sports event ever.

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01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I was at Wembley Stadium in twenty seventeen when Vladimir

1462
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Klitschko fought Anthony Joshua, right, and the attendance for that

1463
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.440
<v Speaker 1>fight was, like I think it was. They they got

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01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it up to the maximum that the that London City

1465
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 1>officials would allow. I believe it was eighty thousand. Now

1466
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.880
<v Speaker 1>later they actually expanded it. They gave them a variance

1467
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for one of the Tyson Fury fights and they got like, what.

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01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 2>The dun fight.

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01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wasn't ninety it was still in the eighties,

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01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe. But the point is that and I just

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01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.600
<v Speaker 1>picturing like being in Wembley, if you stuck in lut

1472
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of thirty thousand, you might not realize.

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01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Where would you put them? Exactly where would you put another.

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01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That many people as Texas Stadium is not a technological

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01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, facility, so if you're watching there, aren't like

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01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 1>if you're in Cowboys Stadium, for example, where I've covered

1477
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 1>many fights. No matter if you're in the last row,

1478
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you can still have an amazing view because you got

1479
01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the gigantic you know, HD screens that are look like

1480
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting on your lap. In Mexico City, you're looking

1481
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 1>at like little ants like you can't really see.

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01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:11.199
<v Speaker 2>But certain technology nineteen ninety three technology, you did not

1483
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.359
<v Speaker 2>have video boards all that you're absolutely right.

1484
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Well not that big anyway, even had a video board,

1485
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.439
<v Speaker 1>not certainly, not like Cowboys stadium, which is indoors, so

1486
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 1>they can have it hanging from the roof. There's no

1487
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 1>roof on As Texas Stadium. But I'm making the point

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01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 1>here that Chavez was a legendary figure at this point

1489
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.159
<v Speaker 1>when he's fighting Greg Hagan, he's defending the WBC's junior

1490
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 1>welterweight title. He is right in his prime. This is

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01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the dead prime. This actually may have been his most

1492
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:41.119
<v Speaker 1>prime fight of his entire career against Greg Hougan. This

1493
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 1>is still three fights before he fights Whitaker, when it

1494
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.720
<v Speaker 1>was number one versus number two for pound for pound supremacy,

1495
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 1>but he had been This is like about ten or

1496
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:54.680
<v Speaker 1>so fights removed from his amazing victory against Meldrek Taylor.

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01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 1>He is in his fucking prime. Ye the great Chavez

1498
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 1>at his greatest, and he absolutely destroyed and pummeled Greg Hougan,

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01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.279
<v Speaker 1>who you know, played the villain role absolutely beautifully in

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01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 1>this fight. Made even even if you're you know, even

1501
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:12.479
<v Speaker 1>he didn't like Chobbs, you probably wanted to see and

1502
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:13.880
<v Speaker 1>beat the shed out of Greg Hougan by the time

1503
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.199
<v Speaker 1>this fight actually took place. And he did that in

1504
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:18.560
<v Speaker 1>five rounds and he just absolutely you know, he was

1505
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.359
<v Speaker 1>up on all three score cards by a shutout, forty

1506
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty five on two cards, forty thirty three on another

1507
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the cards, and he had been knocked down

1508
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in the fifth round, and when he got up, Chobb

1509
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 1>has just landed a barrage of shots and the referee

1510
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 1>finally stopped the fight. I mean, he gave him just

1511
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a vicious down home. What's the old saying from the

1512
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 1>great line in HBO's Legendary Knights series when they were

1513
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 1>doing the episode about Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis, it

1514
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 1>was about it was Tommy Brooks, who was a trainer

1515
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:53.000
<v Speaker 1>had worked with Tyson saying that was such a that

1516
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was such a beating. You know, even Grandma's lifestyle couldn't

1517
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 1>clean him up. I mean, that's the kind of beating

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01:10:57.920 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that he gave to Greg Hougan that night.

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01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I do remember because it's Steve Albert, Bobby Chez and

1520
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 2>the fight doctor Ferdy Pacheco on the showtime call, and

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01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I think Chez is the one bringing it up. But

1522
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:10.920
<v Speaker 2>they're bringing up he's torturing him right now. He could

1523
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 2>have maybe finished him off in the second or the

1524
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 2>third round, but he's torturing him in a fourth round

1525
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and a fifth round vintage Chavez for sure. And I

1526
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.560
<v Speaker 2>know we talked recently on the pod about him suffering

1527
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the loss the following year to Frankie Randall. This is

1528
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 2>after the controversial draw with Pernell Whitaker as well, But

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01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.800
<v Speaker 2>on that night, in that setting, it's tough to argue

1530
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.920
<v Speaker 2>about him being the greatest Mexican champion ever. And for now,

1531
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 2>for the I mean, I know the Canelo fans want

1532
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:42.000
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Canelo in the present day, but good lord,

1533
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:43.960
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and thirty two thousand people and the man

1534
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:45.760
<v Speaker 2>delivered and put the brutal beat down on the.

1535
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:48.439
<v Speaker 1>American It's funny you say that he fights Hogen in

1536
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.760
<v Speaker 1>February of ninety three while we're talking about on the anniversary.

1537
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Then you mentioned the following year he had the upset

1538
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.760
<v Speaker 1>loss to Frankie Randall. Do you know that between the

1539
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Hagen fight and the Randall fight was the separated by

1540
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 1>eleven months, So if it was today, it might have

1541
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:06.279
<v Speaker 1>been his next fight or two fights.

1542
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Later, right, certainly a couple of fights.

1543
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Right after he beat Hagen, he fought a non title

1544
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 1>fight against Silvio Rojas in Mexico. He defended the title

1545
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.520
<v Speaker 1>against Terrence Ali, another great performance. Then he had the

1546
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 1>draw against Pearnel Whittaker. Then he came back in a

1547
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.399
<v Speaker 1>non title fight in Mexico against Mike Powell. Then he

1548
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 1>had another pay per view main event against Andy Holligan

1549
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.800
<v Speaker 1>in December of ninety three, and then he fought Frankie

1550
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Randall in January. He fought in nineteen ninety three. He

1551
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:37.560
<v Speaker 1>fought what one, two, three, four, five, one two, three, four,

1552
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Six times he fought in January. And this is Chavez

1553
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 1>as such some prospect. He was like pound for pound

1554
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 1>number one, fighting six times and in the in in

1555
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:51.760
<v Speaker 1>among those six fights, Hogan, Terrence Sali, Peonel Whittaker, Andy

1556
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Holligan all like legit fights. Holligan was undefeated. Obviously, Parnel

1557
01:12:55.640 --> 01:12:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Whittaker was a mega fight, and Terrence Ali was a

1558
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.920
<v Speaker 1>good contender. So it's it's just a different it's a

1559
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 1>different world from thirty years ago. Say, also, you know

1560
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:05.520
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the big Don King pay per

1561
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 1>views and a lot of there's been a lot of

1562
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 1>discussion those because what's going on with the Riot card,

1563
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 1>how stacked the loaded it is back in its day

1564
01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 1>when when Chavez was with King and he was putting

1565
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>on these big fights with Chavez and also with Mike Tyson.

1566
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 1>This was one of those cards that at the time

1567
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was like a big card. They called it the Grand

1568
01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Slam of Boxing because besides a huge fight between Chavez

1569
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.199
<v Speaker 1>and Hagan in the one hundred and thirty some thousand

1570
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you know in attendance, they also had Terry Norris defending

1571
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the WBC one hundred and fifty four pound title against

1572
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Maurice Blocker, who had been a welterweight champion that was

1573
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on this undercard. The Great a Zuma Nelson was fighting

1574
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Gabriel Rouillis, which is another big deal fight in a

1575
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty pound world title fight. And they

1576
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.119
<v Speaker 1>also had Michael Nunn, who at the time was a

1577
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:50.039
<v Speaker 1>super middleweight champion who was looked at as a potential

1578
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 1>heir apparent on the pound for PALMSS. He was on

1579
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 1>this card in the title defense, so that was considered

1580
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a big, big pay per view back in those days.

1581
01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.279
<v Speaker 1>And King Giddo was on a regular basis, and obviously

1582
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Chavez was the event.

1583
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:01.720
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

1584
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, one hundred thirty two thousand, two

1585
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty seven tickets I have one of those tickets,

1586
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and I posted my picture but on Twitter earlier today.

1587
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 2>What what's the I'm just curious, what's the section and

1588
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.439
<v Speaker 2>what's the row? And have you gone to Azteca Stadium

1589
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to see how high up that's the seat was for

1590
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:19.119
<v Speaker 2>a while, I would love that.

1591
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 1>I have been in Mexico on a number of occasions,

1592
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:25.279
<v Speaker 1>including the cover boxing, but never in Mexico City. I'm

1593
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at the picture right here, I'm in section A three,

1594
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:30.079
<v Speaker 1>row eight seed thirty one.

1595
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000
<v Speaker 2>A three might imply its lower level, maybe even on

1596
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.239
<v Speaker 2>the on the pitch.

1597
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I was in the what's what's what's

1598
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the word dorata in Mexico mean?

1599
01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1600
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I was in in the dorada zone? Whatever that means?

1601
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.159
<v Speaker 2>What the dorata? I gotta I gotta look that up.

1602
01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 2>The dorada in English. I'm just looking real quick. Is

1603
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 2>itch d u r A d A d o r

1604
01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:58.199
<v Speaker 2>e d a d o r. So this is why

1605
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:00.439
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be careful with certain words and Spanish and

1606
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the different means golden our Spanish friends, dorata is golden, golden.

1607
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So I was in the zone. I was probably a

1608
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>good see I was in the gold zone.

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01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Look at that. All right, So you got the ticket,

1610
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:14.119
<v Speaker 2>You've got that up on your substack.

1611
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Man, I got on my tweet on your tweet.

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01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Check it out Twitter x. So we have had a

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01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.560
<v Speaker 2>preview with all these fights on the read card. Again,

1614
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 2>God willing, no changes. We're going to handicap the top

1615
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>four fights off this card on the bet Us Boxing

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01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Show at one Eastern time. A reminder, get the pay

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01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:40.199
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01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:44.159
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01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:47.319
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01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 2>to watch the better B b BL rematch and all

1622
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of the other title fights that are in and around

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01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:57.359
<v Speaker 2>it for Saturday. With that, my friend, let's regroup for

1624
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and if there are any changes, well any more changes,

1625
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 2>we'll be talking about it on the bet Us Show

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01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:04.359
<v Speaker 2>at one Easter time. Other than that, Dan Rayfield, I

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01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:06.760
<v Speaker 2>think we're good, my friend, have a good weekend and

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01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 2>look forward to all of this.

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01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Should be a big weekend, looking forward to it.

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01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:12.920
<v Speaker 2>There is Dan Rayfield. I'm merely TJ Reeves. Follow her.

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<v Speaker 2>Subscribe on this podcast feed Apple Spreaker, Spotify. We preview

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<v Speaker 2>going into the weekend, will recap no matter what happens

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01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.800
<v Speaker 2>off the weekend, Sunday Night and Monday with the Fight

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<v Speaker 2>Preaching Night recap. For now, we're good. Enjoy all the fights.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for being with us on the Big Fight

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<v Speaker 2>Weekend preview