WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:04.240 Hey everyone, this is Sean, your editor speaking. We hit 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:07.440 a little bit of turbulence today while recording the Giant BombCast. 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:11.400 Jan's power went out midway through the episode. It caused 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:15.000 a few issues with the recording, so some audio had 5 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.480 to be pulled from the live stream. This means that 6 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.960 the first hour and fifteen minutes or so might sound 7 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.640 a little bit funky in places, but I did my 8 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.600 best to clean things up and it's smooth sailing after that. 9 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:44.960 So thanks for bearing with us and enjoy the show. 10 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:59.799 Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, exceptem. 11 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:04.319 You're twenty third, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the Giant BombCast, 12 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:09.200 Episode nine oh nine, and we're all feeling so fun. 13 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:13.120 I am your host, Jan Achoa. Welcome to the christ 14 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:14.879 Air of Video Game podcast. 15 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:16.120 That's right, we're all. 16 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:18.400 Just a bunch of sinners over here, because I just 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:20.560 learned last night we were supposed to get raptured, but 18 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:22.879 yet here we are, the biggest center of them all. 19 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.120 Co Captain of the Ship joining me as always Jeff Grub. Yeah, 20 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:27.680 I do have a rule about this. I'm okay with 21 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:29.719 you believing that you're gonna get raptured once in your life. 22 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.640 If it doesn't happen, you're never allowed to do it again. 23 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.319 You get one, and then if it doesn't then no more. 24 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:35.159 I don't want to hear it again. 25 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:36.120 Uh. 26 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:41.200 He is the triple kickflip backflip, sliding down on your 27 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.519 tummy in a suit of meat, in every instance, in 28 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.200 every video game, in every aspect of life, Dan Reiker. 29 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.439 Hi, I have been sliding around in video games as 30 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:51.920 a meat man. 31 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:53.760 Were you referencing a video game, jan or are you 32 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:54.400 just saying things? 33 00:01:54.519 --> 00:02:01.439 I'm just saying things out but also skate Oh reference meeting, 34 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.480 but then I started last night. 35 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:04.840 But were you meeting that game? 36 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.639 That's right, and we have the mediast boy. He's full 37 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:10.840 of meat, but he's. 38 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.800 Also full of bones. 39 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.439 Jeff back nothing butt bones. 40 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:23.840 Actually, uh, look, folks, starting to think maybe God is 41 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:31.039 just pretend. Okay, all right, we'll see you next week 42 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:37.240 for Maybe it's just pretend for for you, for little kids. Okay, 43 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:38.639 so maybe just shut up. 44 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.800 I don't want to hear about anymore. Shut up. You 45 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.080 just have to be God that raptures us. Couldn't we 46 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.159 get raptured by like. 47 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:49.680 The or I guess the Easter bunny is like adjacent 48 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:50.560 to God right. 49 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:55.919 Yeah, well just so many God else like littered with 50 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.960 God across this universal plane. 51 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.039 Sean to isolate Dan saying. 52 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.240 What is the rapture? 53 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:04.879 What we're talking about? 54 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.120 The rapture? Yeah? What do you mean? 55 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:09.520 I saw it this morning, saying like. 56 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.759 I didn't get ruptured. I'm like, yeah, what a bunch 57 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.400 us think they're gonna get raptured today? 58 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:13.719 Like this? 59 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:15.719 It's like six times a decade. 60 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.000 Right, This one is just caught on with like young 61 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:18.120 people on social media. 62 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:19.680 So it's their first rapture. 63 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.520 It's it's your first rapture. 64 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:23.039 Total. 65 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.159 Out of all the things that children think are going 66 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:32.080 to happen, they honestly thought the rapture would would would work. 67 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.240 Oh, people believe a lot of stupid ship. 68 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:40.520 Dude, Yeah, speaking about stupid ship, he doesn't know anything 69 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.599 about it because not only is he the bad boy 70 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:49.000 of games media, he has successfully navigated the United States 71 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.080 Postal Service and he's got a new phone. 72 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:59.080 Like, happy first day of no autism on everybody. We 73 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.800 did it. In fact, God is real. 74 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.599 You got him, Joe, Dan brought up your new phone. 75 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:07.240 How's that going? How's that been going? 76 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.639 What do you mean, Mike, Mike, you don't have to all. 77 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:12.960 Right, they're okay. So I did finally get the phone, 78 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.159 scream screaming about it. 79 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.839 Sorry, I got I just love this story a lot, Mike, Yeah, 80 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.800 tell us about your new phone has great? 81 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:23.439 Yeah, I got the phone. I was like, oh, how 82 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.199 do I get my you know, phone number on this phone? Now? 83 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:27.040 Uh? 84 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:27.879 Oh? 85 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:29.839 You just you don't have to go to the store anymore. 86 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:30.360 That's great. 87 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.720 We haven't had to do that for fifteen years. 88 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:33.879 Yeah. Well, I'm confused. 89 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:35.480 Don't you just take a SIM card out of it 90 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.959 and put in the car? You don't even know you do? 91 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:40.519 You have one phone, look at the other phone with 92 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:41.839 the camera, and it's like, do you want all your 93 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:44.120 ship on this phone? And you say yeah, and everything 94 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.519 the EA SIM all your stuff goes over. It's easy 95 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:46.800 as hell. 96 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.000 Now, No, So I did a SIMS also easy. It's like, okay, 97 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:52.199 now we just need the uh the phone number of 98 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.360 the account holder and their stuff. I was like, oh, yeah, 99 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.480 I'm on my dad's plan right now. So I did that. Uh. 100 00:04:58.600 --> 00:04:59.800 And I was doing all of it, and he had 101 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.040 a like get a code. I was like, oh Dad, 102 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.319 did you get a confirmation code? He sends me blah blah, blah, okay, great, 103 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:09.040 But somehow I must have missed something because his phone 104 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.199 number went on my phone, and in my panic, I 105 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:17.759 immediately deleted it, and somehow, at what point started looking 106 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.480 at my old phone again, it saw that there was 107 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.480 still a phone number, onto like, oh no, it's still 108 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.920 on there, and deleted that forgetting that that was my 109 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.680 old phone number still. So now neither of my phones 110 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:31.759 had cellular connection. But also my father didn't have his 111 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.519 phone number title his phone anymore. It didn't know about it. 112 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:35.879 And he is on vacation. 113 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:37.920 Where did you go on vacation money? 114 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.759 Yes, so he's a Disney World He probably doesn't need 115 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:44.120 his phone, right, what do you do for a living? 116 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:44.319 Again? 117 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.199 Well, he's a doctor, so sometimes he gets very important 118 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.439 but calls it messages even on vacation. 119 00:05:52.040 --> 00:06:00.639 Wait wait, well queen, this amazing crawl. I how were 120 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:04.240 you able to delete your dad? 121 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.439 Was a number like that? You had? 122 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.480 The phone had the numbers? But why is that? Like 123 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:12.600 I guess he gave me the. 124 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:14.560 Concremation code, which we both thought was just for me 125 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.959 to get my number. He was siding away his rights 126 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.160 to his phone number. 127 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:22.959 So so is this just a consequence of you just 128 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:24.000 not read thought I read. 129 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.720 I thought, Look, I thought that as soon as I 130 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.920 scared my opho with this, though, the only thing that 131 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.079 was going to happen was I was going to take 132 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.439 the phone number from that phone to put it on here. 133 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.759 The idea that my dad's number could possibly somehow get 134 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:43.920 put on my phone did not occur to me. Look, now, 135 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:45.839 did my dad had to spend like three hours of 136 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.199 his vacation on customer service calls? Down? Yes? 137 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:52.240 He did. How did he call anyone? If you didn't have. 138 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.759 Probably go to like guess services World or just somebody 139 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.360 like he was with family, resumably, could you so? Yes, 140 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.360 he was with his wife, my stepmom. But they turned 141 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.079 her phone off too because the account got flagged. Oh yea. 142 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:13.639 Death con five situation. 143 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.439 See, well, poor AJ my brother like, because you know, 144 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.360 I had a like message him, I'm like, I'd be like, look, 145 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.120 I can't call them, I can't text them. You have 146 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:23.879 to somehow get in contact with them. 147 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:29.120 And what's happening, Mike, Mike rounded to the near nearest ten. 148 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.079 How many people do you think died because of this? 149 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:32.199 No one died? 150 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.000 Everything fine, there's no way for you to know that. No, 151 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.600 somebody could have died like you don't strike me as 152 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.600 as the kind of guy, the kind of son or 153 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.600 brother that creates a lot of messes. But when you do, 154 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.240 they seem like they would be of this scale where 155 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.079 it does affect like multiple people in the world. This 156 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.199 is a poopy pants uh accident. 157 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:53.879 And also okay, as I feared the one the only 158 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.680 reason I didn't want to tell this story. It's gonna 159 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:57.759 be like march on his dad's plans. Though, yes, that 160 00:07:57.879 --> 00:07:59.519 was a holdover. I'm sorry about that. 161 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.480 There's nothing wrong with being on a family every. 162 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:04.600 What take, sir, is yes, we're on a family plan 163 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:08.040 and those of that that's toxic American individualism, Mike, And 164 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:08.879 we're over that now. 165 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:09.720 We're all one people. 166 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.480 All the funny stuff that I did wrong, and there's 167 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:14.920 still munching on to the fact that was. 168 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:15.759 What my dad's plan. 169 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.360 I mean, it plays it to there I'm a mad 170 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.480 child narrative and I'm not. I'm glad I have a 171 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.759 mortgage and I have said problems. You have problems, yeah, 172 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.720 like deleting your dad's phone number. So why are we 173 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:32.799 talking about this? 174 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:36.000 Listen, It's it's good that you're still on your dad's plan, 175 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.759 because then this cavalcade of fuck ups would not have happened. 176 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.679 I felt really bad. I think I expect my kids 177 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.679 to be on my cell phone plan when they are 178 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.440 like into their thirties. I got I could see that. 179 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.759 Yeah, I have no problem with that. Oh I felt man, 180 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.759 it was one of the There was a moment where 181 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.159 it's funny that I accidentally deleted my phone number off 182 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.320 the oh too, so I had no cell service of 183 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.559 any guide. There was a moment there was like, oh 184 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.279 my god, I messed up. My dad's foe doesn't work 185 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.639 and he doesn't even know he does, even though he 186 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.519 was in pretty good spirits when I finally called it about. 187 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.000 What was that conversation like when you first spoke to 188 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:18.240 Remember Doc. 189 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:25.000 You know the show Dinosaur Dinosaur, You can just go baby, 190 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.919 So remember the episode where I think it's the first 191 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.600 episode where the baby like grabs the remote and the 192 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.039 dad's like, oh, if you touch that, you're gonna be 193 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.480 one sorry little dinosaur. And then he changes the channel 194 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.320 and he pops up from the couch. He goes, I'm sorry. 195 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.320 So I just called my dad and I's just like, 196 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:49.840 I'm sorry, and your dad's reaction to. 197 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:50.600 Man. 198 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.279 Okay, Mike, I think if anything, if you were worried 199 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.480 about any part of that being construed as like being 200 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.440 a man child, I think it is less of the 201 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.799 family plan because that's economical. It may be more of 202 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:08.519 apologizing through uh riffing off the dinosaurs. 203 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:12.600 Aby dinosaur from the dinosaurs. I'm the Mikey gotta. 204 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:25.360 Love you there it is Man, Well in your internet's bad. 205 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:27.960 That's not me. 206 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.720 To tell Dylan to stop torrenting or something. 207 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:37.039 Yeah, no, it's me. You're you look good now, Okay. 208 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.159 I love the story, so just picturing him at Disney 209 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:43.960 World getting the first like sense of that, like did 210 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:45.480 he look down on his phone and it just didn't 211 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.279 work or did he hear from one of you first? 212 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:51.480 As I said, I think, make a j call our 213 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.080 stepmom who at the time think her number wasn't turned 214 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.720 off yet at that point they had not suspected fraud, 215 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:01.000 so her numbers still worked at the moment. It's so 216 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.200 good man, all right, Oh boy, newhone's nice though it's 217 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.519 got this extra button for the camera. Now that's neat. 218 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:07.240 I do like that. 219 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:11.720 Yeah, nice cool, I kind of I really want cars 220 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:12.519 to be done again. 221 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.879 Oh yeah, yeah, because they try to sell you subscriptions 222 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.519 to like shit like heated seats like that. That will 223 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:19.799 be the. 224 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.480 Thing that really drives me insane. 225 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.919 Is yeah, like I'm contemp you knows, as I've alluded here, 226 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.639 I'm thinking about moving yet again. And part of that is, like, 227 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.120 you know what, I've had this twenty fourteen Honda Civic 228 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.240 four ten years. Let me trade this away, sell it 229 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.600 and try to pick up a new car. And then 230 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:40.559 I look at all the new cars and they all 231 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.440 fucking suck because why do they have like two iPads 232 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:43.759 on them? 233 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:44.000 Now? 234 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.480 Am I old that? I don't want a gigantic screen 235 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:48.159 on my car? 236 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.200 I mean the only thing I want is the map, really, 237 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.240 and I want to be able to like play podcasts 238 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:52.480 on it. 239 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:53.519 That's all I need. 240 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:53.799 Really. 241 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:56.480 Twenty fourteen Civic is only a third of the way 242 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:57.720 through its life, Jen, what do you? 243 00:11:58.879 --> 00:11:59.120 Yeah? 244 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:03.799 But you know what, I like the uh one fifty 245 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:06.519 I think, holy shit, that's yeah. 246 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.600 I mean it's like that for Ani, that's like half 247 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:09.080 of its life. 248 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:09.799 Yeah. 249 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.240 So I also wonder fulfill my dream of having like 250 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:14.799 a truck that it can throw shit in. 251 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:19.960 You know, what do you picture it? What what are 252 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.240 you picturing putting in the truck? 253 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.360 I don't know, Like, Godie, I'm cruising through the streets 254 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.279 of wherever. I'm like, oh damn, that's a sick ass 255 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:28.440 coffee table. 256 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:30.720 Are you going to be the goat guy? Are you 257 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:32.039 gonna be the guy that has goats in his truck? 258 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:36.159 I could be the goat guy, you know, I really Okay, Scout, 259 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:36.960 no Scout place. 260 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:38.039 I'm jealous. 261 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.440 Okay, okay, no, no, you can still ride in the truck. 262 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.200 It's fine their space. I can't put you in the bed. 263 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:44.519 Oh I'm gonna pop off. No, I already popped che 264 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:45.799 you can no, no, no, no. 265 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:46.440 No, no no, Mike. 266 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:47.639 The runway is clear. 267 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.200 Yeah, this is an open, open place. 268 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.159 I may have gone on to X for like one 269 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.320 moment the other week and I meet like for I 270 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:58.919 forget why. Then I went on I Notifications and it 271 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:03.120 was somebody at ATS trying to get Jan fired because 272 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:09.039 they're mad at Scout, barking and oh, hey you shut 273 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:09.759 the house. 274 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:14.200 Person on X tagging bikey about Scout. Shut the fuck up, 275 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:14.960 eat my ass. 276 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:20.039 Yeah, we like Scout. It's it's it's the most pleasant park. Anyways, 277 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.159 I was like, what you'll get a dog. They just 278 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:27.240 park sometimes. What are you gonna do do with it? Oh? 279 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:28.960 Man, you I love this. 280 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.200 I mean we'll have the jan firing meeting after this show. 281 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.720 We got so sorry, Jae, we got bad news. 282 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.679 We'll talk all right. 283 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:37.679 Yeah. I don't think you need a truck. 284 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.559 I'm not trying to persuade you out of getting Nobody 285 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:41.440 needs a truck. 286 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.840 Yeah, I feel like, you. 287 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.519 Know, some people need trucks. I don't need a truck. 288 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:49.279 If I were to move to southern California, I definitely 289 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:49.759 don't need a. 290 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:51.759 Truck, you know, but I think there are certain people 291 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.679 that are just constantly using their trucks. 292 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.360 Truck if you're a contractor and you get through your business, yes, 293 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:58.879 no individual needs a truck. 294 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:00.320 I see way too. 295 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.679 Many people in suburbia with their fucking giant That's what. 296 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.159 My dad has a lot enough and uh yeah, oh yeah, 297 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:12.240 he's hauling around all them much the one because he 298 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.919 hit a deer. They got the new one. I'm like, well, 299 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:16.960 this is great because I need to move something. He's like, 300 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.919 you're not putting that in my new truck. And I'm like, well, 301 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:24.320 what is the point of this truck? Yeah, totally. I'm 302 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.320 glad I deleted his from number. 303 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.679 I'm glad he deserved it. It sounds like he deserbor. 304 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:33.639 My neighbor has a truck he's obsessed with. 305 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.519 Like it seems like all day he's just out front 306 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.120 looking at his truck and doing stuff of his truck. 307 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.759 But he has like like Minnesota during the winter, he 308 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:41.960 has like giant like plow things he puts on front 309 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:43.639 and like kind of clear stuff out and everything, like 310 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.639 like he's utilizing it for proper purposes. 311 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.480 Right if you're like a truck guy, like that's what Like, 312 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.120 it's a truck's nice to have and they're fun. And 313 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:52.960 it sounds like that's where Jan wants to get into 314 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:54.720 the action here. It's like have it for like some 315 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:56.080 fun stuff and yeah, do it. 316 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.440 I mean, I like going camping, so you know, you 317 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.159 to be useful for that. But I also just I 318 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.679 just want to fucking key truck somewhere to run me through. 319 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.000 The process of I think importing one of those now 320 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.519 is almost there's truck yeah. 321 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.679 K e I They're dope. They're super sill. They are 322 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:14.559 the many trucks from Japan. 323 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.679 Dan. That's like these guys. 324 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.159 They are there's an importer here in Cleveland, and they 325 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.279 have them for like a surprisingly low prices, like something 326 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:25.159 like starting at like four or five grand. I'm like, 327 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.000 what's going on here? 328 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:26.360 Really? 329 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.159 Yeah? But I think, you know, I think those might 330 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.879 be like a certain certain models. I haven't looked too closely. 331 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.120 But what's the size comparison to a car that we 332 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:36.960 would be able to you know visually? 333 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.519 You know, they're they're like like you know, like like 334 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:43.080 like take that and then like shrink it by like 335 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.080 twenty percent and then put a flat or not a 336 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:47.639 flat at but you know, pickup truck. 337 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.000 Yeah, back, I've seen them, but I've never seen one 338 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:50.519 in person. 339 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:52.360 Uh. 340 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.840 Speaking about going on to Twitter's restaurants k K truck truck, 341 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:02.120 I also did the same recently. And then, uh, I 342 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.200 I don't know why I felt compelled by I checked 343 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.279 my ass and then someone else was complaining about me, 344 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.240 saying I'm terrible at my job, and to that person, hey, 345 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.360 fuck off eat my ass from the front. 346 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.399 Wait they said they it was specifically. 347 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:16.320 You're terrible at your job. 348 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:21.320 Yeah, it's not even like no specific citations as to 349 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:22.320 why they were like. 350 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.919 Star terrible his job. 351 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:32.639 Well, bitch, get the feeling a little spicy today. It's 352 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:34.120 a different person from Scout. 353 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.799 Uh Is it because I spoke about God that way? 354 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:39.120 No? 355 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.840 No, they're not mad at you. I mean not yet. 356 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:44.399 Uh. 357 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.960 There's a moral of this story about what websites not 358 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:52.159 to go to. What do they think about Tyler over 359 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.639 at X right now? Search for Tyler in the search bar. 360 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.039 I think Sean had said something yesterday about Django unchained 361 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:00.919 and just kind of like like something in my head, 362 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.039 and I'm like, oh yeah, oh no, I am like 363 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.000 fully off. There's no longer love on a leash. It's 364 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.799 just like off, we have free zone. It's terrible, It's 365 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:12.680 going to be. 366 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:15.720 Gang. It is like that. 367 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:19.359 I think you should leave Sketch, except we are just 368 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:26.240 back in Sloppy Steaks era and we're just. 369 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:31.839 Anyways video games mistaken as the words stake in it. Yeah, 370 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:32.119 we know. 371 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:39.119 Speaking about sloppy games. Lego Voyagers is something of that 372 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.720 grab and I checked out and it is actually the 373 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.400 antithesis of Sloppy is a very cute and quaint co 374 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.160 op game where you and a companion are too little 375 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.200 one by one bricks yep, the one by ones and 376 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.640 crub you joked around that we were just gonna be 377 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:01.039 lounging in our chairs in Lego Voyagers and you joked 378 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.799 around about watching the Challenger explosion. Yeah, then we saw 379 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:04.359 the Challenger. 380 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.759 It happened, Yes, in Lego. I was like, there was 381 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:09.559 a spaceship and I'm like, oh, it's gonna be like 382 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.119 the date's gonna come up in like nineteen eighty six 383 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:12.559 and then. 384 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.759 N eleven exactly. 385 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:19.960 But then the spaceship takes off and it fucking explodes 386 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.160 and then it crashes around you. So it felt just 387 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:24.279 like the Challenger explosion. 388 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:25.519 Uh, you know. 389 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:29.039 Other than that, though chill vibes Q came, I don't know, 390 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.039 it's kind I liked it. It was a good time. 391 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:33.160 I don't know if I'm like gonna see it through, 392 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:34.839 like Jane, if you wanted to, like we could, but 393 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:37.079 we're so busy. I don't know, we're not gonna prioritize it. 394 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:37.319 Well. 395 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:39.759 What I played of it I found to be a 396 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.640 very sort of just low stakes. But when you get 397 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.519 to a puzzle, you're like, Okay, let's figure this out, 398 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:47.720 and it's like just a matter of like what can 399 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:50.359 this object do? Once you figure that out, you figure 400 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.079 out like how to get the other person to do 401 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.160 the other thing, to interact with it, and there's like 402 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.319 one of those every five ish minutes. It's not overwhelming 403 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.119 a lot of times, it's just moving through a space 404 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:00.960 with your buddy in a really nice way. 405 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.559 It is a very it's not quite a one button 406 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.079 co op game. Maybe a three button co op game 407 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.319 and stakes, Like you said, Gunportunately, they added more button. 408 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:13.319 Yeah. 409 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.480 What I wanted to bring up leg a Voyager specifically, 410 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.559 since it is like an uh, it is a co 411 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:21.920 op game. You can't launch into a single player. You 412 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:23.880 could do local co op, but we GB and I 413 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:28.759 obviously played online co op. Where are y'all on Split Fiction? 414 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.079 Because I was reminded that came out this year? 415 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.640 Yeah, yeah, what about it? I was really liking it. 416 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.640 I just need to kind of get my brother back 417 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:38.039 here to play through it. I actually didn't want to 418 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.000 play through that before Game of the Year because I 419 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.359 was having a great time with it. My other brother 420 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.799 has been playing it with his eight year old son 421 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:46.680 and he's really enjoying that. 422 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.000 Finished in the weekend. Okay, cool, Yeah. 423 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:52.839 It's objectively very very good. I really enjoyed my time 424 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:54.559 with it. I do there's a bit of a like 425 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.519 empty calories feeling to it, but that's not necessarily a complaint. 426 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:59.839 It's just one that like every second I was playing it, 427 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:01.920 liked it, and then I just haven't really thought about 428 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.559 it since. But I do think it's probably the best 429 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:05.319 one they've made. 430 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:10.599 Yeah, I uh, I enjoy the force not force co 431 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:14.839 op genre, but uh, I am excited to see the possibilities, 432 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.480 especially something as simple as Lego Voyagers. 433 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:17.880 Uh. 434 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.200 And then like the complexity of split fiction, I want 435 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:21.640 to see like a fun middle ground. 436 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:22.359 Uh. 437 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:25.559 For for for that, I guess a whole lot genre 438 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:26.960 he's in creamback. 439 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.119 Yeah, yes, definitely is. 440 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:33.519 Uh is Lego Voyagers a elomelo Like I. 441 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.200 Never played Elo, but I'm gonna say, yes, what about 442 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:40.599 Oh yeah, of course go to hell? 443 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:46.200 It is lower on the elomelo ebn ab uh scale, 444 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.440 Like it is not quite a Snipper Clips, but it 445 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.720 is above a Pico Park. Yes, sure, yes, yes. 446 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:54.640 Yes, yeah, it's uh. 447 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.599 That genre is strange, just because it's like it feels 448 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:59.559 like one studio dominates it. I was, I guess I 449 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.200 was surprised to see this, but in a way I 450 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.240 shouldn't because that you know, before Split Fiction, what was 451 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:05.359 there one that did really do? 452 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:05.920 It? 453 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.720 Takes two sold very well, so about other people are 454 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.200 taking notice, But it just feels like there's not enough 455 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.119 room in that space for multiple studios. I don't know 456 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.200 if we'll get one in between Lego Voyagers and Split 457 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:18.799 Fiction Jam, but I would like to see it. So 458 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.039 I don't know, Maybe that's an indie game studio that 459 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.680 actually like puts something out like that out Splits. 460 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.440 Section had a switch to like the launch Port. I 461 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:27.119 think it actually actually is a pretty good port. So 462 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:27.880 I think a lot more people. 463 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:29.319 Yeah, we we had good things about that. 464 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:29.680 I didn't. 465 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:30.400 I didn't play that. 466 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:32.000 Thought somebody brothers playing it actually. 467 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.519 Also, if you're just a regular decular fan of Lego, 468 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:37.119 this is a gorgeous game. 469 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:39.359 It's nice to look at the Lego pieces. 470 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:43.640 Yeah, everything like the floral and fauna is all different 471 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:47.160 Lego pieces. But there's like one of like the corner 472 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.519 studs that you will use to like finish off like 473 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:53.799 a bigger building or object when you're building a Lego set. 474 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.559 They use it for like butterflies, and it's great Lego 475 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.039 though they don't have eat or at least the ones 476 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:03.680 that we were playing with Dan, You've been all about 477 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.599 feet because you've been checking out Baby Steps. 478 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:13.400 I did you played, I'd say a couple hours an hour, 479 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.000 so I got past it. There was like one point 480 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:17.480 where it actually like seemed like there was like a 481 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.440 break in the like you know, it's like the level 482 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:20.680 was beaten and it's like, oh, do you want to 483 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:22.480 go onward and upward? And I did that and that 484 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.200 next area I spent a long time going around and 485 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:28.000 I got really far up this hill and then I 486 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.960 fell into like a slippery like rock thing that sent 487 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:33.559 me into a waterfall. And it was like comical watching 488 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:36.519 how far I kept sliding down. It was very black Sheep, 489 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.400 you know, Farley falling down the hill or hot Rod 490 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.359 the same joke. And I was like, okay, well great, 491 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:43.680 I'm gonna go to the bottom here and it's going 492 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:45.920 to be like all right, respawn or whatever, you're dead. 493 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.000 It's like no, my guy just had to get up. 494 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:51.680 And it's like, wait, I have That was a really 495 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:55.839 far fucking way more like only up type stuff, right, 496 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.160 you know, where it's like no, no, You've got to 497 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.599 go back up there. So I kept walking and I 498 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.559 was like, oh, okay, I'm seeing a bunch of new 499 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.359 stuff without going up, so I thought it was like, 500 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.039 this must be a part where you have to fall 501 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:07.240 and then it leads you into this next area. And 502 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:09.480 I realized no, I just did like a full lap 503 00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.799 around the mountain, I think because I got back to 504 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:13.559 where I started and I was like, oh my god, 505 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.240 I just need to go up there again. I just 506 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.119 like got stepped back like forty minutes because I fell 507 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.039 down this waterfall. 508 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.720 It's a game like that's you know, yeah, yeah, I under. 509 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:25.559 Is there any type of check pointing? 510 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:25.839 Dan? 511 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.920 I mean, I don't know. 512 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:32.720 I haven't gone back into it that one session with 513 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.319 the game, and I never like got so I don't 514 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:36.079 even remember, know. 515 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.160 So when we did the we did like, uh, what 516 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:38.640 do we do? 517 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:42.720 Wasn't a quick look Unfinished Unfinished did unfinished for the 518 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:44.799 demo of the beta, which was, by the way, one 519 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:45.880 of my favorite video guys. 520 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:47.519 You guys have ever done that? I wasn't end I 521 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:48.960 love that video. Guys did a really good job. 522 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:50.759 Oh yeah, that was a good time. 523 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:54.000 They I don't remember where it drops you off again, 524 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.480 Like I feel like once you got to that first bonfire, 525 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:57.519 maybe it was there. 526 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:01.799 I assume that there's a break when it says that 527 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.039 it shows you the bedroom again and it says onward 528 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:06.079 and upward, like that definitely must have saved, but like, 529 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.160 I don't know if it saves after that, haven't gone back. 530 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:08.599 There's like a. 531 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.400 Surprising amount of mystery going on in this game. I 532 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.640 feel like where and. 533 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:15.839 Like you're curiosity will get the best of you where 534 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:17.400 It's like I got to one point where there's just 535 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.519 like a pit and it's just like a circular pit 536 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.920 filled with dirt, and it's like, all right, it doesn't 537 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.240 seem like there's any points of interest in there. It 538 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:26.759 seems like I could just walk around it and go forward, 539 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.559 but like, I'm too curious. There has to be like 540 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.440 what happens if I go in that pit? And sure, 541 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.119 if I went in, I walk around and I couldn't 542 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:33.920 get out and you just can't lift your feet high 543 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.839 enough for that. And then it triggered to cuts in 544 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:37.720 where Benet Fatty comes by and brings a ladder by 545 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.799 and everything, But like, has anyone gotten to that point, 546 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:40.160 like can you? 547 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.160 And I kind of mostly just did what I did 548 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:46.079 in the demo, so. 549 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.240 You but you saying all this stuff really like I 550 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.039 love ben at Foddy games. I love the idea, well, 551 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.079 I love the idea. In practice it's infuriating, but I 552 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.839 love that being infuriated by a game that just says, 553 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:00.200 fuck you, if you fall down, deal with it, and 554 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.359 like that's you know, getting over it with minute fady, 555 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.559 like that is the whole game, like sort of considering 556 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:08.000 what that feeling is and why we do why we 557 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.839 you like, put up with stuff like that, And so 558 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.720 for them to kind of go even further and have 559 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.680 this game that feels like it takes that concept and 560 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.960 makes it open in three D that is very enticing 561 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.680 to me. It's like, what is going to be hidden 562 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.880 in this world that you only see if you are 563 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:24.559 willing to go in that direction that looks wrong? Or 564 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.519 there's a stare steps over here, and there's a muddy 565 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:29.519 hill over there, and it's like, well, what if I 566 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.480 tried to force my way up the muddy hill? I 567 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.480 got to see that like that, like I can already 568 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:35.759 like feel myself like feeling compelled to do that. 569 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:39.160 And it kind of jokes with the idea of being 570 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.039 in a more normal game where like at one point, 571 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.599 like an hour in or something, a character you're talking 572 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.000 to me like, hey, here, here's a map. You know, 573 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:45.440 this is a map, and then like a mini map 574 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.799 pops up for like a second, and it's like a 575 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.119 normal mini map and it shows like, you know, a 576 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:50.920 dotted line of like where you're supposed to go, and 577 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:52.880 you guys like, I don't, I don't need a map 578 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.400 up buying up fine, and then it just goes away. 579 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:56.720 It's like, so for a second, I'm like, okay, we're 580 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.319 introducing the mcginalia like this stuff, and then it's like no, no, fuck, 581 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.359 you want more. You know, it seems to me what 582 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.839 the game is, which I do respect the commitment to the. 583 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:06.119 BID's Sonny. 584 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:14.359 Speaking about taking steps and just going keeping on with walking. Mike, 585 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:20.400 Dan and grub y'all kept digging. Yeah. Last week, that's right. 586 00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:21.079 This was. 587 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.720 Another digging a whole game. This one has three player 588 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:29.640 co op, so we went through this one two together. 589 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.480 Very similar to a game about digging a hole. The 590 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.519 co op is the big difference here, but it's as 591 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.319 silly as the game about digging a hole is. This 592 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.880 one is like taking its being a game even less seriously, 593 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:44.920 Like it has all the mechanics from that and you 594 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.119 think you know what the loop is. This game's very 595 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.440 easy to kind of just brute force your way through. 596 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.880 For one thing, they have teleporter checkpoints, so instead of 597 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.200 like worrying about, okay, you have to have enough battery 598 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.079 and rope lush, you can get back up to the top, 599 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.000 and you know, to make sure you don't run out, 600 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:02.799 you kind of just sort of brute force your way 601 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:04.559 and especially with all three of you digging at the 602 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.839 same time, just dig dig, dig, dig dig to get 603 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.920 to the next teleporter that teleport back up. So, yeah, 604 00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.839 it's less of a well designed game, but it's still 605 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.839 a ton of stupid fun, especially with co op. It 606 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:20.039 wasn't taking yourself seriously at all. You can find costumes, 607 00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.359 so we were all dressed up as chimpanzees at some 608 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.960 point and then we got yeah, yeah, yeah, we got 609 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.240 to fart in Jess's mouth. That was Chris Person asked 610 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:29.759 if you can use that clip for the next highlight 611 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:30.160 l by. 612 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:31.759 The way of course. 613 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.680 Forever. Yeah, so you know, maybe ever respects the word, 614 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.359 but it's like every respect The game is. 615 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:43.400 Very positive on Steam, and I get that, like, like 616 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.039 Mike's right, it's a poorly designed game. I would say, 617 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.359 and yet they find a way to like make that 618 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.759 not matter because they focus on the stuff that does work, 619 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.400 like even the teleporters, the checkpoints. It's like, you could 620 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.440 see why that exists. You could try to design your 621 00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.359 way around to keep players together in a multiplayer digging game, 622 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.400 or you could just take the easy way out and 623 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.319 say no, you can all teleport to the same place 624 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.759 so you're all together again and start working again. And that, 625 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.160 you know, is probably the right choice for this five 626 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.839 dollars game on Steam that is like, hey, let's just 627 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.559 go dig a hole together. Like it doesn't get in 628 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.920 its own way even when it is not making the 629 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.519 best decisions about how to design a digging video game. 630 00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:24.000 So now we've had powerwashing simulator, now we've gone into digging. 631 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.640 What is the next physical labor activity? 632 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:33.039 Do you think I want to spread mulch okay, sure, spreader? Yeah. Yeah, 633 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.359 there's got to be like a. 634 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:39.559 Landscaping simulator game, yeah, definitely. Yeah. But I do think 635 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.319 like we've been doing these simple tasks. We did run 636 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.200 a grocery store once, Dan, That was a lot of fun. 637 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.279 Doing that a lot. We did a great job, I. 638 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.720 Think, sort of running a small business probably is the 639 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.920 next one where it's like, let's uh, let's go into 640 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.839 one of those simulators and do a couple of streams 641 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.559 or whatever and see how far we can get. Real 642 00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:58.880 we yeah, we were weed dealers. That was a lot 643 00:28:58.920 --> 00:28:59.200 of fun. 644 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.240 I think I saw snow Bike Mike streaming a game 645 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.480 once that looked like your supermarket game. But he ran 646 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:04.960 like a. 647 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.640 Yes, yeah, yeah, that was neat. I would go to 648 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.640 a card store snow Bike mic was running one. 649 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.200 Yeah, definitely a trading card store. 650 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:14.720 Yeah, good times. 651 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.759 I would let him talk me into like playing any 652 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:18.400 sort of game. 653 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.440 And he's just like, oh, dude, jah, let's go. It's 654 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:21.480 a story you got to go do to get the 655 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:22.440 kadrima credit card. 656 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.880 Actually I need to hear about this. 657 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.759 Wait, what's that announced? Just wait last time? 658 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.799 Okay, all right, all right, well, going from digging holes 659 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:40.240 to riding trains last night, mister Manatti on Mega Man, 660 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.599 you checked out Monster Train two. 661 00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:47.319 That's right. This is one of those roguelike deck builder games. 662 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.599 Somehow I mantioned not place the spire until relatively recently, 663 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:53.480 but liked it a ton, So when I heard that 664 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.920 this is a newer one of those that came out 665 00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.559 this year and everybody likes it. I decided I definitely 666 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.000 wanted to check it out. It's a bit more different 667 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.319 from Slight Spire than I was expecting. It's much more, 668 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.039 you know, like it's Slightest Spire, you just kind of 669 00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:06.839 have your one dude and you're you know, you have 670 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.880 all these cars that are often like spells or abilities. 671 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.640 Here you are deploying units, and you kind of have 672 00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.880 three four layers of this train and three layers you 673 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.880 can put down your people and those are represented by cards, 674 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.480 and enemies kind of make their way up the layers. 675 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.599 It's almost a little tower defensive. When they get to 676 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.359 the top, then they fight your engine. You got to 677 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.920 protect your engine. So with all of that and like 678 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.359 a lot of us, it's a good deal more complicated 679 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.119 than the Slightest Spire. I would say in a way 680 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.119 that like at first it's almost a little off putting, 681 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.720 but then you kind of begin to understand and grock 682 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.160 it and you appreciate it more. 683 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:41.519 So. 684 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.559 I was definitely having fun. It's presentation wise. Look Slightest 685 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.839 Spire is not some gorgeous game either, to be clear, 686 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.480 but this game has very strong and I don't know 687 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.920 how else to put this looks like a mobile game energy, 688 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:56.160 you know it does. 689 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.720 I was gonna say it looks like the type of 690 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.720 fantasy stuff that'd be pain it on the side of 691 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:01.079 a van. 692 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.880 It's not a bad thing, but positive. 693 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.680 Yeah, it's literally like, you know, you see the art 694 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.559 for like the fake mobile games like the People, and 695 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.440 like it's kind of what you call that that weird, 696 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.119 like every body part is like moving constantly all the time, 697 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.440 but like one thousand frames per second. But the art 698 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.119 itself is very simple and flat. 699 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:21.920 Whatever it is, I hate it. 700 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.920 I don't mean yeah, yeah, so you know, this is 701 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.039 a game tool where it's like, oh, there's like such 702 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.519 potential here trains and going to heaven and hell instead. 703 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.559 It just kind of has that look to it. But 704 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.680 you can kind of get over it because the gameplay 705 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.440 itself is so fun, you know, these run based games, 706 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.480 it's just so easy to be like, ooh, I think 707 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.799 I'm a little bit better. Now, let me try that again. 708 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.599 You begin to sort of see where synergies can happen, 709 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.599 what kind of strategies can develop. In between fights, you 710 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.279 have to pick between a left or a right path, 711 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.559 and they'll have different kind of upgrade opportunities on each one, 712 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.079 a little bit like The Spy where you're taking different 713 00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.200 branches to try to figure out what kind of stops 714 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.440 you want to make. So, yeah, it definitely seems like 715 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:05.720 a good one of these. I think I prefer Slay 716 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.240 the Spire is a bit more toned back version of it, 717 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:09.119 a bit simpler. 718 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.079 And would you recommend, Like I still have not played 719 00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:12.599 one of these, and I know you just played Split 720 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.920 Slay the Spire recently, is that the one you would 721 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.400 still recommend I go play first? 722 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.000 Yeah, I think absolutely They're both very good, and I 723 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.440 could see the argument for either, Like like Bonk's obsessed 724 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.119 with both of those, and I think she actually preferred 725 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:26.039 she one hundred percent uh Monster Training to just played 726 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.079 like probably over one hundred hours probably a bit. 727 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:29.279 And it's cool. 728 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:30.920 It's like it gets really deep with like thease I 729 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.680 played a good amount of it too, and the synergies 730 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.640 you can do between like your primary group and your 731 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.160 secondary group, and oh this one has these things where 732 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.680 this phase of the Moon system is going on here, 733 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:41.559 and it's like you realize, like, oh, the synergies that 734 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.000 can have with this other group, Like there's just a 735 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.680 lot of strategic possibilities in that game that like it's 736 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.960 overwhelming at first, but it's you know, because I was 737 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:50.799 asking Bonka, I was like, this is confusing the hell. 738 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:50.920 Out of me. 739 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.920 She's like, anything I say is not going to help 740 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.839 more than just like playing a couple of rights, and 741 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.319 sure enough you do just kind of click with it. 742 00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:58.440 So it's very good. 743 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.440 Yeah, and I grew up ours. I can see myself 744 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:03.640 playing this sort of you know, second screening while doing 745 00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.480 other things, for sure, and I bet I'm going to 746 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.519 appreciate it even more in a few weeks. 747 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:08.079 You watch a. 748 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.559 Movie, right, yeah, Greb, how much of like this card 749 00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.200 combat stuff have you checked out? 750 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:13.680 With that all? 751 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.279 I mean, I've played plenty of card combat games. I 752 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.480 played that Hand of GILGAMESH game, the okay, yeah, the 753 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.359 Robot one, and I thought that, yes, Steam World, thank you, 754 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.680 and I thought that was pretty solid. 755 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:26.599 I played quite a bit of it. 756 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.079 And then but I just I have not played this 757 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.119 specific blim, which I guess I still don't even like. 758 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.720 I was kind of watching what Mike was doing, but 759 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.240 I'm like, you know what, it's exactly what Bonk said, Dan, 760 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.359 I'm like, I need to just play this. 761 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.039 I know, I just need to play it to understand 762 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.359 what's going on. I got a perfect starter one for you, 763 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.079 Kingdom Hearts, chain of. 764 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:45.519 Kind of off. 765 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:47.759 I'm gonna let this man cook keep going. 766 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.480 We go. It's because it's like a normal action game, 767 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.720 you just use the cards. It's more it's more of 768 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.480 a Fantasy Star Online episode three, like if you okay, 769 00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.559 all right, now, you got me, all right? Itos something. 770 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.559 Yeah, you talk about the art being like the side 771 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.400 of a van fantasy and I was thinking, like as 772 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.000 much as I bristle at fantasy tropes and stuff and 773 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.000 like normal fiction and games and stuff, I could think 774 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.119 of three instances I see it. I'm like, hell yeah, 775 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:18.840 it's sides of vans like airbrushed RBD style, uh, posters 776 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.079 at Spencer's gifts of course, you know, like Black Wizard 777 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.840 like Black Flights, mushrooms and stuff. 778 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.199 And then anything Pog related. 779 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.159 Wait, wait, the slammer, the board all that's oh wait, 780 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:37.239 I activated my sorry p Og Okay, all right, okay, yeah, 781 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:38.119 I don't know whatever. 782 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:39.679 I just thought. 783 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.760 I do like when we talk sometimes and I look 784 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.559 in back Oars just kind of shaking his head a 785 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.159 little bit. 786 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:46.519 A little Shank. 787 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.280 Picture in my mind's eye when you say pog and 788 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.239 but Mike pictures very different times. 789 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.039 Yeah, I think of like pineapple orange juice and Guada juice. 790 00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.199 So I think about a wizard with eight ball. 791 00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.559 Wait, isn't that worth? The POGs came from from the juice? 792 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.000 Oh oh? 793 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.079 The caps? The caps Okay, you started like milk caps 794 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:08.480 and stuff. 795 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:11.800 The POGs. The caps were where you get the things. 796 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:18.960 That's what they're called POGs. Fun to tell black stuff. 797 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.800 Let's let's keep the wheels rolling here. Last week on 798 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.840 on Professional Fridays, we checked out Skate and it bothers 799 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.719 me that they're just calling it skate instead of just skate. 800 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.599 For call it lower skates because of the lowercase s. 801 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.840 That's what I've been calling it. Man, he's going to 802 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.440 fetch eventually. Here. I think it's gonna catch on. It's 803 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.559 pretty good. Huh, good luck lower. 804 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.360 So I had some feelings about Skate. I thought that 805 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.320 this was a pretty good game for what they were 806 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:51.599 trying to go for, while also being well the truth 807 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.840 of the criticisms of it feeling corporately sanitized are also 808 00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.559 very true. But it's like it does this like sampling 809 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.920 of the feeling of hanging out with your friends trying 810 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.760 to nail a trick while skateboarding. I've not like done that. 811 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.280 I've done that for snowboarding before, but I always like 812 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.000 watched skateboarding in the Olympics and was confused. I'm like, 813 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.239 these rounds are so short. I was watching the Best 814 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.800 Trick thing and apparently this is just a normal thing 815 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.000 for skateboarders of spending all day on one rail trying 816 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.119 to nail the best trick on that thing. And so yeah, 817 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.239 they're literally on their board for two seconds at a 818 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.639 time and then they're off their board for a long 819 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.719 time watching other people do it. And I think this 820 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.639 game is trying to nail that aspect of it, because 821 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.760 we definitely had multiple times where we were like on 822 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.320 one roof trying to nail the ramp to land on 823 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.679 another roof, or like when we were on that crane 824 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.599 trying to like hit terminal velocity and land on our 825 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.760 board on top of that other one and actually just 826 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.880 pulling that stuff off felt really rewarding, and I was like, 827 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.880 really enjoying just hanging out with you guys trying to 828 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.880 do that. It's I think that's exactly the kind of 829 00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:58.960 game they were trying to make, and for me, it's like, oh, 830 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.519 you passed that test. Now, it's just everything else needs 831 00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.119 to be improved. You need to make the world feel something. 832 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.800 You need to give it some pushback instead of just 833 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.119 this is the fun space where brands can come and 834 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.119 advertise and we could sell skins. Eventually, it just feels 835 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:16.440 bad in all those other ways. 836 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.239 I don't know, it's just got no personality right there doesn't, 837 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.480 but like it does have personality in that, like they 838 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.400 allow you to do some weird stuff like you can 839 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.159 do like your emotes whenever, like the way you can, 840 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.239 like you know, set the markers and work back to it, 841 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.760 Like it really helps you do things like hey, let's 842 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.360 all set our markers on top of this crane and 843 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:35.679 we're gonna keep jumping off and trying to land on 844 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.000 these things. 845 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.440 Like I liked most of the things that didn't involve 846 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.760 the skating, which you know back in the day, Like 847 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.880 that was the thing I never liked about the skate 848 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.960 games is I didn't like the skating controls. I was 849 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.119 a big Tony Hawk guy, and it's just the whole 850 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.360 analog stuff just did not work for me. And it 851 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:51.119 still does not work for me. It's just something in 852 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.280 my head doesn't click with the way that operates. But 853 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.199 when I'm just running around off my board and we're 854 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.000 climbing skyscrapers and jumping off buildings and stuff, I was 855 00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:58.719 having fun with that. 856 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.719 I'm just real quick. 857 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:01.360 Yeah I was. 858 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.719 I'm the huge Tony Hawk guy. This is the first 859 00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.679 skate that I've really clicked with, though, So it's like, 860 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.320 it is possible, and I think it's a little bit floaty. 861 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.039 I think I would. I was expecting to be a 862 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.039 little bit more grounded in terms of like, oh, you 863 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:14.800 your board's not going to be in the air for 864 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.400 like three seconds, so you can't perfectly nail the rails, 865 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.199 but you can and it feels good. So I don't know, 866 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.079 I feel I kind of am with this game on 867 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.039 its sort of idea of how this game should feel 868 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:26.639 and kind of giving you a little bit of leeway 869 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:28.920 when you are in the air to actually nail some 870 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:29.519 cool stuff. 871 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.639 Yeah. I didn't realize. I may be the only person 872 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.159 on the crew that has really enjoyed the skate franchise. 873 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:38.599 We like Tony Hawk, that's the thing. 874 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:42.280 Yeah, Okay, but Beck, you said it during upf that 875 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:47.639 it's it's so interesting that skate still manages to capture 876 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.920 an odd feeling of actual skating in a sense because 877 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.599 like you're prepping your jump, the physics can be real 878 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.480 enough where like all right, I boofed it on like 879 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.920 the set of stairs, let me just go walk back 880 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.519 up and try and tackle it again. And the skating, 881 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.239 the skate essence of it is definitely still there, and 882 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:13.320 I think it feels really good. And it's while that 883 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.440 this team has been able to nail that aspect when 884 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.519 there have been so many different skate likes over the 885 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:25.280 years in between Skate three and Lower Skate. God damn 886 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.679 it it worked that haven't quite nailed the physics, and 887 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.000 like the board feel and board control of it, where 888 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.599 you're trying to do too much with like both analog 889 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.320 sticks of one foot is this foot, one foot is 890 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.679 right stick is your right foot. But with skate, with 891 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.000 the classic controls of just pushing and kicking with a button, 892 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.960 it still manages to feel really good. That being said, Grub, 893 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.639 I think you're one hundred percent spot on. You're not 894 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.960 if they just tuned it enough where it feels like 895 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.239 you're going a little bit faster. I think I would 896 00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:58.000 enjoy more. 897 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.840 The skating speed needs to be amped up for sure, 898 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.199 like the top speed there, and then I just think 899 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:07.639 they need like culturally, they need to really rework this game, 900 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.559 like that's the big thing, like like yeah, it's like, yeah, 901 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.159 it's kind of so corporate in actual skateboarding because it 902 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.840 is in the Olympics and it is like growing globally, 903 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.079 and brands are seeing an opportunity to like get into 904 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.679 this new subculture and they're going to subsume that eventually, 905 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.400 and skate should not be a part of that process. 906 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:25.880 It should be the one thing that's like we're still 907 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.599 kind of in your face a little bit, but it's 908 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.559 EA and they're like, no, we don't want to do that. 909 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:30.159 Yeah. 910 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.639 This feels like gentrified skate in a way. Yeah, and 911 00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:38.559 soulless because uh and and all of the promotional materials 912 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.559 has just been lauding of like oh you love love 913 00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.679 skate culture. This is going to be a amog to that. 914 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:46.719 Further away from. 915 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:48.920 That starts out and it's like an AI. It's like Hi, 916 00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.679 I'm your AI assistant and it's time for you to 917 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.480 create a character. And they all look like default Fortnite skins, 918 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.519 and this is not the vibe I want from this. 919 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.599 Yeah, and that you're like leveling up and you're getting 920 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.880 uh like a currency to unlock blind boxes and everything. 921 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.360 It's not what I want or what I'm looking for 922 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.079 in something that is supposed to uphold skate culture. It 923 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.440 doesn't have enough grunge to it. I want it to 924 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.039 be dirty. I want people to be slurring their words. 925 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.480 I want whoever's talking to me to be missing teeth. 926 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.519 You want ECW but this feels like tko era wwe yes. 927 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:29.480 Definitely like I want skate town, you know, God. 928 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.599 This does feel like Saudi Arabia's skating, like I want. 929 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.000 Mike Valley style skating, where it is like I am 930 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.119 running at a hill, jumping on my board and like 931 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.119 attacking a rail. And here it's like it does feel 932 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.800 a little too floaty. It does feel a little too corporate, 933 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.360 and I think it's it's very weird because they talk about. 934 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.840 Like oh corporolah. 935 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.280 And that it is his presence in the city, and 936 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.760 it just takes away a lot of the soul of ski. 937 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.400 That's the thing is like Tony Hawk. When Tonyak originally 938 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.840 came out in the nineties, it was like, we are 939 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.760 just going to make a statement of what skateboarding is 940 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.480 because it was like kind of one thing back then, 941 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.159 or at least popularly. Popularly, it was one thing, and 942 00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.239 so they could just come out and be like be brash. 943 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.239 And now we're at this point where it's like there 944 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.079 are a lot of young kids in the skateboarding like 945 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.800 again globally in Brazil and Japan, it's massively popular, right 946 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.760 with ten eleven twelve year olds, and some of the 947 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.159 best skateboarders in the world are ten eleven and twelve 948 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.039 years old, And it's like, I think they're like in 949 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.360 a moment where like, wait, we're not sure kind of 950 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.280 the direction skateboarding is going to go, so we're not 951 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.719 going to like be bold and take a stance with 952 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.880 like like stating this is what culture is, and that's 953 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.199 it's a mistake, Like they should like, if you're gonna 954 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.159 be the video game for skateboarding, it's already been proven 955 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.519 multiple times. You can just be like the most important 956 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.199 thing in the culture, the way Tony Hawk's pro skater 957 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.719 once was. And this game feels a million miles away 958 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:52.119 from that. 959 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.639 Like I feel like skating has had its like booms 960 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.039 over the years and everything, and we are in the 961 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.960 midst of another upswell of a new generation of skaters. 962 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.840 Grub I was watching like an eleven year old killing 963 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.360 a vert ramp in a while. 964 00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.840 They're doing nine hundreds every run. 965 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:10.039 Now. 966 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.480 Yeah, but something that I think is missing in this 967 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.400 because I guess of like the city that they've created 968 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.599 is like the actual street skating part of it. Sure, 969 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.920 you can find a couple different parts of like the 970 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.320 city to to kind of focus in on, and like, oh, 971 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.360 I want to hit this bench and then like go 972 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.360 over here hit this gap. But some of the stuff 973 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.239 that I absolutely love about modern skating is people bombing 974 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.400 a hill and and also just like, look, everything looks 975 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.760 too clean. I wanted to look like it's shot on 976 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.719 like a VX one thousand that give me like the 977 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.039 VHS fish I look in and all that is missing 978 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:50.360 from this. 979 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.000 Yeah, but don't you think that. I mean, I'm with 980 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.880 I understand where that comes from, right with like you know, 981 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.239 the skate videos and whatnot. But I think you know, 982 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.280 it's I'm not defending the sort of like saccharine you know, 983 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.840 polish that it's just absolutely yeah, like I said, I 984 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:10.519 don't think it really has a lot of personality, but 985 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.039 I think, you know, I think skateboarding has evolved out 986 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.159 from that as well too a little bit. 987 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.719 Right, It's I don't think it's I don't think so. 988 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.280 I think it. I think corporations have set themselves on 989 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.920 top of it and sort of like are trying to 990 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:26.840 like make sure that they. 991 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.880 Can keep it clean for their their own personal needs. 992 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.159 But uh, the skateboarding underneath all that is still just 993 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.000 it's still grind for sure, saying it like skateboarding where 994 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.159 they're not supposed to be skateboarding kind of still being 995 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.360 vagrant to a certain point, Like, yeah, that is still 996 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:41.599 like a huge part of it. 997 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:42.000 Yeah. 998 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.360 I just think, like, you know, uh something something has 999 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.360 changed in thirty years, right, like, uh, you know, I 1000 00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.079 don't know. I think whatever this game is going for 1001 00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.360 like they are not they are not final. 1002 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.000 Yeah, you know. But and I completely agree with everybody's 1003 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.599 everyone's saying about the aesthetics and all that. I kind 1004 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.719 of keep playing this game even after the upf. 1005 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:03.599 Yeah everything else. 1006 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:05.960 This is way more than I thought I would. I've 1007 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.320 never played a skate so I guess I'll surprise how 1008 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.519 much I am enjoying just you know, and I'm glad 1009 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:13.519 that it is very different from a Tony Hawk. It's 1010 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.280 a completely different pace, it's completely different control style, and 1011 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.119 it's a great game to just kind of put on 1012 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.840 and try to knock out some of these challenges. While 1013 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.760 I'm watching a video or something like that, I'm kind 1014 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.239 of like, Oh, should I go play skate three or something? 1015 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.159 I really missed this series. Huh. I'm surprised how much 1016 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:31.119 I liked the gameplay. 1017 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.719 Uh yeah, I don't know. I when I think about 1018 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.719 my youth of skating around and just seeing people like 1019 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.280 smashing a board with their feet because they were just 1020 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.199 so frustrated, and then two minutes later they're rolling a 1021 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.159 blunt on the broken skateboard, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's skating, baby, 1022 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:49.639 That's what I mean. 1023 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.519 Yeah right, And they could just gesture at that. Just 1024 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.239 give me like one scuzzy dude in an alley that 1025 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.280 instead of a shaggy bullshit. 1026 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.360 Yeah we know he's not smoking weed on the show, 1027 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:00.840 but we know. 1028 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:01.679 Yeah. 1029 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.280 I like, I've never skateboarded in my life. I do 1030 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.000 not have the coordination for it. But between like Jackass 1031 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.159 and Tony Hawk and stuff, being a big part of 1032 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.039 like the culture and like junior high and stuff, and 1033 00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:13.639 also just a bunch of like skater friends I had 1034 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.559 and stuff. I think I just do have an appreciation. 1035 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.000 I think there's something very endearing about that culture that 1036 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:19.760 I like and like is absent here. 1037 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.639 You know, right, dudes getting together and not being like 1038 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.239 Joe rogan Ish bros. Just hanging out and hurting themselves 1039 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.280 for our entertainment. There's something like special about that. Yeah, 1040 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.639 and skateboarding was always like the cousin right next to that, 1041 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.679 and it's like just kind of mashed that bring that back. 1042 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.480 Maybe that's nostalgia, but it's been whatever. What we're just 1043 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.719 getting at is whatever they're doing here is not working. 1044 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.599 They need to do something get right. 1045 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.840 There's like a physicality to skating that is slightly missing 1046 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.960 from this, and I think if they just tune up 1047 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.800 the speed a little bit that might help. Being off 1048 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:57.559 your board is a major component of this game. 1049 00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.920 You go faster off your board a hedgehog through this bitch. 1050 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.760 I hope they never patch out the tumbling out or 1051 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:06.559 this incredible No way, no way, but they make it 1052 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.760 such a big component and they saying like, oh you 1053 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.400 can get off your board. You can parkour, you can 1054 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.679 climb this, but I wish that fed better into picking 1055 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.199 up speed to jump onto your board to nail like 1056 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.559 a gap or like a ramp or whatever. 1057 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:21.000 Yeah, that's the thing that bugged me. 1058 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.639 Al was like Tony Hawk, I feel like, you know, 1059 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.360 you can do those lines where it's just like, Okay, 1060 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:26.239 I went up here at revert and I'm manually and 1061 00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:28.159 I'm going across the level to do this other thing, 1062 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.320 Like you feel like you can still you know, gain 1063 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.239 ground and cover ground in that game after tricks and 1064 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.039 while doing tricks here, I always felt like even if 1065 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:37.440 I was able to kind of like get the top 1066 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.199 speed hit like one grab trick or something, I just 1067 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.199 feel like there's so many times my momentum just like 1068 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.039 stalled and I'm like, okay, gotta get going again. Like 1069 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.280 it just didn't flow for me. 1070 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.159 Yeah, Like there are no like real long line tricks 1071 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.199 like they are in Tony Hawk. 1072 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.360 But I think it started to make sense for me 1073 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.960 when we were on that first roof where we jumped 1074 00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.360 in dropped into the ramp and then we're trying to 1075 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.719 get we were trying to christ are across the gap 1076 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.880 onto the other roof and it's like, oh, you had 1077 00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:04.480 to get speed. 1078 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:05.159 You actually have. 1079 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.039 To like drop in and hit a ramp and do 1080 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.880 that stuff. It's like, you can't just kick the ground 1081 00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.159 four times and get a lot of speed. You get 1082 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.239 the top speed there and you could do some stuff, 1083 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.000 but if you want to like really nail some of 1084 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.079 these things, you're going to have to use the environment. 1085 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.320 And again that was kind of leaning into the stuff 1086 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.679 I was enjoyed about the game of us standing at 1087 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.400 one point setting our marker down our fast point, you know, 1088 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.400 the fast travel waypoint on that one building, and be like, 1089 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.559 let's just try to do this drop in perfectly so 1090 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.159 we can get across that gap. And once we nailed that, 1091 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.119 it's like, okay, yeah, I couldn't do this by just 1092 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.880 like you know, doing the four kicks on the ground 1093 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.199 in the ramp and jumping across. I actually had to 1094 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.360 find a place in the environment to drop in from. 1095 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.599 And I like that. But that kind of that does 1096 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:48.360 loop back in the park or of like this is 1097 00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:50.960 why all these components are in the game, and it 1098 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:51.719 was working for me. 1099 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.039 Yeah, that's what's good about That's what I like about 1100 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.480 it that it has that distinction there because that is 1101 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.719 you know what you described earlier, that is right, Like 1102 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.960 that is like constantly a thousand tries of like trying 1103 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:05.719 to do this thing. 1104 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:07.960 I like that about the game. 1105 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.199 I mean, chat here says complaining Skate doesn't play like 1106 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.840 Tony Hawk is like complaining current Trisma isn't like Mario Karts, 1107 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.360 just a different thing. 1108 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.159 And it's like, yeah, I acknowledge it. It totally is. 1109 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:16.480 And I know some. 1110 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.519 People really appreciate Skate being more realistic, but for me, 1111 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:21.440 again not really caring about the realism of it. 1112 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.280 I am just going to value just fun. 1113 00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.119 And you're consistent with this because like you SSX and 1114 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.599 across all these games, like that's the what you prefer. 1115 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:29.039 Want to be fun. 1116 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.679 I don't need it to feel like, you know, the 1117 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.800 actual act of doing the thing. That's why I play 1118 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:34.280 video games. I can't actually skate. 1119 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.239 Right, And I get I do think that this is fun, 1120 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.800 though for sure in a different way, Like yeah, yeah, 1121 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.079 I think it still is. It's a different kind of 1122 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.119 satisfying and fun for sure. And look, I'm going to say, yeah, 1123 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:47.880 I prefer Tony Hawk, and I grew up with that 1124 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.079 for sure, but I am surprised how much I am 1125 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:52.039 enjoying this. 1126 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.719 It's it's funny because if you go online and you 1127 00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.119 look at skate videos, not actual shoot skating, but the 1128 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.760 video game are two different camps of like, yeah, I 1129 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.440 love this hyperrealism, like look at me, Neil this bench, 1130 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:07.760 and then you'll see stuff like the video I post 1131 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:09.960 last night on Blue Sky of me doing a christ 1132 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.639 Are through a church window and I like that skate 1133 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:14.840 Let's let's you do. 1134 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.719 Both, all right? 1135 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.159 Speaking about keeping wheels rolling on the ground, Dan Riiker, 1136 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.000 you've been playing Sonic Racing Crossworld. 1137 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.159 Yeah, and I'm I would guess someone here has played 1138 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.119 it more than me because I basically did like a 1139 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.000 Grand Prix just to get a sense fic because like 1140 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.400 I know they doubt. Okay, yeah, I've heard about, you know, 1141 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.519 just the Sonic Racing games for years. I remember like 1142 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.000 Vinny and his kids really liked it and stuff. I 1143 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.880 never really jumped into it, and I don't know why. 1144 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.400 So this is my first real experience with it, and 1145 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.800 like it is very very sonic, Like I mean as 1146 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.079 soon as that opening cutscene or intro video started as 1147 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.559 like oh the song, holy shit, this is some modern 1148 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:56.280 sonic stuff. But I love that it's not just Mario 1149 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:58.760 Kart but Sonic, Like they do some interesting stuff here. 1150 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.440 Like I like even just like the little things like 1151 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.519 okay for the last race and the Grand Prix, you know, 1152 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.800 the first place bonus is worth more points, so you 1153 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:06.639 can kind of pull ahead. 1154 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.920 I like that the way it does the Cross Worlds. 1155 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:10.800 Things is the person that's in first when you finish 1156 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.320 that first lap kind of picks just you know, very 1157 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.159 easily by going left or right, like do you want 1158 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.360 a random next course or you know, like you go 1159 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.639 for a lap into another course, then you go into 1160 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.239 a portal and you finish on the original one and 1161 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:25.360 then like the last race being an amalgamation of the 1162 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.360 three that you did prior. Like it just it does 1163 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:28.960 some really cool stuff. And it does like you know, 1164 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.800 the switching to the boat and switching to the plane. 1165 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.440 But I feel like the physics are definitely different and 1166 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:36.280 you can do like a hop when you're in the 1167 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.559 water thing. It's it's they add more to it than 1168 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.559 like just oh now you're on water, now you're in 1169 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.480 the sky. So yeah, I really did like it. 1170 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.480 And there's like a good amount of like cart customization 1171 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:47.280 and stuff. I saw. 1172 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.960 I want to play more of it. It looks great, 1173 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.199 runs great. I've been playing on PC. I think we're 1174 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.760 gonna try some multiplayer on Thursday. But yeah, just kind 1175 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:56.880 of getting used to you know, like the boost, the 1176 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.719 start is different, the drifting system is a little different. 1177 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.559 There's like different types of characters. So it's just that 1178 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.639 there's a depth there and it differentiates itself from Mario 1179 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.159 Kart enough for me to want to spend more time 1180 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:08.440 with it. 1181 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.760 Yeah, I've been curious about it. I played it at 1182 00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:12.800 Summer Game Fest, thought it. 1183 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:13.599 Felt pretty good. 1184 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.280 How are you did one Grand Prix? Did you get 1185 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.079 a sense of the systems between races? Like how busy 1186 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.400 is it going to keep you like setting up your cart? 1187 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.239 It seemed like there was a lot, but I can't 1188 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.159 tell if that is something I could easily ignore. 1189 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.920 I think Okay, So I did spend a good amount 1190 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.320 of time just in the like custom cart situation between 1191 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:36.320 or after the Grand Prix, And it seems like you're 1192 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.440 earning tickets during the Grand Prix that you can use 1193 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:40.840 to spend on unlocking stuff. 1194 00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:42.280 And like, I never loved. 1195 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.320 The thing and the more recent Mario Karts where it's 1196 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.320 like I can pick my wheels, my glider and my 1197 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:49.280 cart and all this stuff and all that is there, 1198 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.880 if not even more so, but I think from what 1199 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.480 I've seen, it should be easier to just go into 1200 00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.599 the customized cart section basically make the cart you want 1201 00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.199 and then just pick that. When you pick your character, 1202 00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:05.599 It's like, okay, so when I'm Silver, I made this 1203 00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.320 cart that works well with his stats, and so like, 1204 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:10.440 I think you should be able to just make your 1205 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.039 cart and be like, all right, that's the one I pick. 1206 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:13.800 You don't have to fiddle around and look at stats 1207 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:14.400 every single time. 1208 00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.400 It seems okay, all right, that's and I'm not like 1209 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:19.639 bemoaning that stuff being there. This game seems like it's 1210 00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.360 going to be for the Sonic fan kid who wants 1211 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.480 to play this game for two hundred hours, and I'm 1212 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:27.639 sure having all that stuff will be important for them. 1213 00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:29.679 I'm just like, can I ignore it? And it sounds 1214 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.000 like I probably will be able to. 1215 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.599 Yeah, And I think it is nice that, especially right 1216 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.960 now with a lot of people were frustrated with the 1217 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.480 opening world stuff in Mario Kart World, that like this 1218 00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.320 is a bit more traditional and yeah, yeah, I think 1219 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.320 it's a good time for this game to come out 1220 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.119 and be the way it is cool. 1221 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.679 Speaking about spending two hundred hours in a game, I 1222 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.400 feel like collectively we may all total it up. Hollidight 1223 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:57.039 Silk Song. Still everyone's still in the Silk Song mines. 1224 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.559 I believe Mike has beaten it, like I really did it. 1225 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:07.079 Yes, I got the true ending about forty hours total playtime. 1226 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.960 I think it said seventy four percent completion all said 1227 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.199 and done. Final Boss took about two or three hours 1228 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.880 worth of attempts and felt amazing. I loved it so good, 1229 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.880 just kind of you know, scratching and calling my way 1230 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.880 towards that progression. They're feeling like it right, Like was 1231 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.840 a feeling like, oh, I'm just looking into getting better 1232 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.840 at this, Like no, each time, I know I'm doing better, 1233 00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.440 I'm understanding this more. Just God, felt so good, Like, 1234 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:35.840 you know, forty hours, really really difficult game. Finished it, 1235 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.199 and you know, I've been trying to kind of like, oh, 1236 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.239 I'm gonna, you know, play some other things. I've been 1237 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:43.039 playing a lot of Mario Tennis on NSO game Boy, right, 1238 00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.960 just killing time to haities. But I'm like, oh, I 1239 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.039 kind of miss Silk Song. I actually kind of want 1240 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:53.039 to just go back actually run achievement. Oh how long 1241 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.920 did the Act three take you? Definitely was the shortest 1242 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.840 act I think for like Act three itself was maybe 1243 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.599 more like six seven eight hours, maybe ten, Okay, because 1244 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.440 I still don't know how to on lock actory, I'm 1245 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:05.480 doing all these different things. 1246 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.440 Yeah, I mean, can we just talk about it now, 1247 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:08.559 like it's been long time? 1248 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.400 I would I would be open to that, can we Uh. 1249 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.239 It's not that crazy of a spoiler thing. 1250 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.880 Well, let's just put the spoiler warning and give people 1251 00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:17.400 some time stamps for that. Yeah. 1252 00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.920 Uh, let's keep it to like, uh, it's it's ten 1253 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.119 oh nine right now, let's maybe keep it to five. 1254 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.280 I think everyone's I mean, we don't need to say 1255 00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:28.280 this on here. I could just tell you after the call. 1256 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.159 Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That that that works next week. 1257 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.039 I don't know. We're good, folks, We're good. 1258 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:34.760 Yeah, we're good. 1259 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.480 I did do the Bile Water Boss, and that was 1260 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:41.719 that was definitely the toughest thing, just because it's like 1261 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.079 it puts all the endurance together of the of the 1262 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.320 run back and then the it's a you know, a 1263 00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.280 gauntlet of enemies and then that boss but at the 1264 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.719 end it felt like all the other ones where it's like, 1265 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.480 eventually you learn the patterns, and that one where you 1266 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.719 do succeed, you basically play perfectly. You basically just do 1267 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.440 everything exactly right. And it's I think that might be 1268 00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:04.760 my smallest of criticisms for this game is the bosses 1269 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.760 kind of have one speed. It is you need to 1270 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.440 stay back, learn the patterns, play defensively, stay out of 1271 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.039 their way, find your opportunities, and go there. Even when 1272 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.840 you get like a lot of tools and things that 1273 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.360 make it feel like, all right, this is the one 1274 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:18.800 that's gonna be like when I see a boss, I'm 1275 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.960 gonna get in that ass. The game never wants you 1276 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.119 to get in that ass of the boss. It is 1277 00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.480 always about like staying back, and that's like for it 1278 00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.119 taking so many cues from Soulsborn games. That's the one 1279 00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:34.239 I wish, like, just give me one or two fights 1280 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.840 where it is about being all out aggressive and rewarding 1281 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:39.880 me for that. You can play that way, you can 1282 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.079 find a way to do that, but it's never it 1283 00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.159 never feels like the intended way, and so it's just 1284 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:45.280 like I wanted a little. 1285 00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.159 You'll get lucky sometimes be like, oh, should I be 1286 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:47.920 that first try, Like. 1287 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.800 Well, no, yeah, yeah, no, I'm definitely one shot at 1288 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:50.559 some bosses before. 1289 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.079 But that's because I played defensively. 1290 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.119 It's because I was looking for the patterns because I 1291 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:56.000 had learned from that last boss that that's what I. 1292 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:56.480 Needed to do. 1293 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.000 But that is, like I said a very tiny criticist, 1294 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.159 like I wanted a little bit more variability. 1295 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:03.320 In the bosses. 1296 00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:05.920 Tell you what, though, beating that filewater area that was 1297 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:06.599 very rewarding. 1298 00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.519 I think I saved that for like really near the end, 1299 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:11.400 and everybody was, you know, saying it was terrible, but 1300 00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:12.920 I don't know if I was just like upgraded enough 1301 00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.280 or whatever. And I also cheesed the boss where it's 1302 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:16.719 like you can get the thing where you can be 1303 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.719 in the maggots, and uh so I just hung out 1304 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.840 in the maggots beating my second time, so I only 1305 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:25.280 had to do that run back once. And I also 1306 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.440 had the like hidden bench, so the run back was 1307 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:27.920 not that bad. 1308 00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.039 There's hidden bench. 1309 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:33.320 Bench, Yeah, it is. I think the one that's like 1310 00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:35.639 down to the left that most people talk about. By 1311 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:36.960 the time I played, I had one that was like 1312 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:39.320 so from the bench, I would go right up and 1313 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.679 left to get to the boss. On the second try, 1314 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:43.679 I'm just like down in the maggots, just like throwing 1315 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:44.719 cogflies and stuff. 1316 00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.400 That's awesome to hear that that's possible. That's the one 1317 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:48.920 thing you do learn about this game from talking to 1318 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:53.400 people is it can be so different. I never got 1319 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:58.079 arrested or whatever taken into the Yeah I did. I've 1320 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.480 completely explored it. I apparently I did something to avoid that, 1321 00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:02.239 and that's wow. 1322 00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:03.920 Interesting. Yeah, so I had to. 1323 00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.599 Get a very like a certain key in a completely 1324 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.440 different way. It's bananas. I really like that aspect of it. 1325 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.880 But I started playing Haities two. 1326 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.800 I won't we won't talk about that yet, but I 1327 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.360 was like, okay, I'm gonna play Hades too. I'm gonna 1328 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.880 put down Silk Song. And then I just found myself 1329 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.079 playing more Silk Song and played for another like ten hours. 1330 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:25.320 Yeah. 1331 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.320 I did the opposite where it's like I beat Act two. 1332 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.159 I got to Act three, and I had one thing 1333 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:32.679 in Act three where it's like I went down. I 1334 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:34.159 got to that first kind of boss fight in like 1335 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.559 the Belwaigh area, and I died and I was like, 1336 00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:38.239 I don't really know how long this is gonna be 1337 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:40.599 but I've put forty hours into this game. I did 1338 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.239 every single quest and Act one and Act two, and 1339 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.760 it's like, I do need to jump into several embargoed 1340 00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.000 games right now. And it's like, so that is if 1341 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:50.960 I go back, if I do go like, I do 1342 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.320 want to go back because I played so much of 1343 00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.079 it and liked it so much, but like, I will 1344 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.039 be right at the beginning of Act three fresh, so. 1345 00:58:58.559 --> 00:58:59.519 Maybe I'll get to that side. 1346 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:01.920 Why I have so much momentum again, It's like, yeah, 1347 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:04.480 I'll just try to see it through right now while 1348 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:05.480 playing some other stuff. 1349 00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:06.679 It's it's so good. 1350 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:08.159 It is an incredible game. 1351 00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.760 Yeah, and Greb, I think we were kind of in 1352 00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:13.719 the same boat where it's like, I mean, I don't 1353 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:14.760 know if you ever had a period where you like 1354 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.039 actively disliked the first one. 1355 00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.519 I just bounced off at a bunch of times. I 1356 00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.239 was a little annoyed. Everyone's signet's praised as well. I 1357 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.199 wasn't quite getting it, which sure, yeah, I think now 1358 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:25.719 it's like, obviously I can go back and I would 1359 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.039 be able to enjoy that game so much, but this 1360 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.639 one blew me away. One of my favorite games ever. 1361 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:32.639 It's so good. 1362 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.679 I want to go back. Uh, I do, just like 1363 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:36.719 I want to play more. Maybe I don't want a 1364 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.599 hundred percent, but I know that, like I haven't seen 1365 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.800 every boss. I didn't get all the crest. There's like 1366 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.519 three of those crests that completely change your set that 1367 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:47.599 I never found, seven or eight total. I think like seven. 1368 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.880 I'm like, yeah, that's so I've been just I was 1369 00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.480 rocking the wand Request Crest, by the way, that was 1370 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.880 my go to one. But yeah, I'm still on the 1371 00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:57.960 first one. I'm still on the diagage with the first one. 1372 00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.039 Yeah, a couple of times I switch to Reaper a 1373 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.039 couple of bosses, but something about it being good, Like 1374 01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:05.920 I can't tell that the Wanderer is better, but in 1375 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.199 terms of like survivability, and apparently they've done testing and 1376 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.920 it does the most DPS, the Wanderer one. It's like, yeah, 1377 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.840 I just like something about the challenge of that downward 1378 01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:18.239 diagonal pogo feels like the thing. I want to experience 1379 01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:19.960 this game first, and then I'll try the other. 1380 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.480 I love puddling as much as possible solf Wander, where 1381 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.159 I can just very quick pounce, spounce, pounce, pounce, spounce. 1382 01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.960 Uh speaking about a game that see is seemingly it 1383 01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.519 will take up a lot of our times. I saw 1384 01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:36.159 Jeff Grubb playing this game this morning and Dan talking 1385 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.079 about it last night. 1386 01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:38.719 Mega Bunk. 1387 01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.320 I have been, you know, half joking for a while 1388 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.480 now about like, god, just there's too many games, you know, 1389 01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.199 there's too many great games, but actually not even half. 1390 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:48.840 Why did you tell me to play this? I know 1391 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:49.480 that's the thing. 1392 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.679 It's like I already had so much on my plate 1393 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.719 that is really good stuff that I'm really into, Like 1394 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.840 I want to do more Silk Song Greb. You mentioned Hades. 1395 01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:59.079 We'll be talking about that soon. Other games that we 1396 01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.119 have that are just like huge, big, good games. And 1397 01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:03.920 then all of a sudden, I'm sitting on the couch 1398 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:05.480 next to Bank and you know, we're both doing our 1399 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.000 Steam deck stuff. We got something on the background and 1400 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:09.840 Bank just kind of like giggles and she's like, have 1401 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.920 you seen this? And it's a game called Megabonk And 1402 01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:15.840 just like Syrapis, it's like, oh wow, that's that's a 1403 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:19.360 funny name, Bunk, and then she goes, oh overwhelmingly positive 1404 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.519 on Steam. And then I just saw like a clip 1405 01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:22.760 of it and I was like, I had not heard 1406 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.000 anything about it. It's like eight dollars and fifty cents 1407 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.039 right now if anyone's interested. And I downloaded it. And 1408 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:29.960 it's one of those games where immediately was texting a 1409 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.440 few people. I told you, guys in Discord, like download this, 1410 01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.239 play at least a run or something. Before the show, 1411 01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.320 I texted friends and stuff. It is one of those 1412 01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.880 games that within like five minutes you will be like, oh, oh, 1413 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.400 I see. And I think the quickest way to describe 1414 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.199 it is like it is very much a Vampire Survivors like, 1415 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.159 but I think it is the evolution of the Conjunter Survivors. 1416 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:49.960 It's three D. 1417 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.199 You can jump, you can double jump, you can triple jump, 1418 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.199 you can fucking through the monkey, you can climb walls, 1419 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:56.639 all this all this shit. But like I have was 1420 01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:57.320 that face jan. 1421 01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.000 I didn't know this is another monkey game, I guess. 1422 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.039 So that's the thing is like this has a lot 1423 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.079 of weird personality and and here's. 1424 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.679 Real quick, there's a lot of let's be clear, there's 1425 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:10.000 a lot of Internet that I was straight yes, so 1426 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.719 that I just want to set the table because there 1427 01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:12.840 are a lot of people who have a lot of 1428 01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:14.519 questions to you, Dan and might in the chat this 1429 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:16.559 morning when I was playing this, Oh really yes, there 1430 01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:21.480 it was, Oh Ken, he has sort of jokes. I 1431 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:21.880 wrote it. 1432 01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:22.639 I wrote it down. 1433 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.119 It's like it's like you. 1434 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:26.760 Why you like this? Yeah? 1435 01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:27.800 Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 1436 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:29.960 So for the record, like that type of internet meme 1437 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.719 humor is like kryptonite to me, and you know, ninety 1438 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:33.920 nine out of one hundred cases. 1439 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:35.719 But this game is so fucking good. I don't care. 1440 01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:38.440 It's like it goes so heavy on it, like when 1441 01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.519 he died, it's like you dead, maybe him skill issue. 1442 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:42.960 One of the upgrades is the Stonks bonus, and then 1443 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.800 there's the Megachad character who starts with the Aura power 1444 01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.000 up and stuff like that, like it is big on that. 1445 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.079 But I'm telling you, this game is so fun. It's 1446 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.239 like it doesn't even really bother. I don't even Like 1447 01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:56.039 the first couple of times, I was like, I don't know, 1448 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:57.199 I don't even care. 1449 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.119 It does not affect me. 1450 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.719 Well, it's because there's so much happening. It is like 1451 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:03.039 these Vampire Survivor games. It is like being inside a 1452 01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.880 slot machine. It's like being inside a pinball machine. Lights 1453 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.400 and noises and everything pinging and you could just focus 1454 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:10.960 on that stuff. And when you're doing that, there's actually 1455 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.239 not a lot of those jokes. There's some, but it 1456 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:16.920 is playing you're not so you know, you'll you play 1457 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.519 as monkey and it's spelled mo O n k E, 1458 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:23.039 like the meme and stuff like that. But when you're playing, 1459 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:25.639 it's like, I'm just focused on surviving. And it looks 1460 01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.000 like Gauntlet Legends but Vampire Survivors. So it already pops 1461 01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:31.679 me really hard in terms of Oh, I just love 1462 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:33.960 the way it looks, and then it feels incredible. 1463 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:35.519 I see people in the chat saying like, oh, it 1464 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.320 looks so ugly. I love the art style. 1465 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:39.920 It's great. 1466 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:41.920 Yeah, the game isself you know that might yeah I 1467 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.760 think you say Gauntlet Legens to me. I'm like, hell, yeah, 1468 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.519 so I like that. I'm a little I'm curious what 1469 01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.440 I will think of it. I like Vampire Survivors, but 1470 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:54.239 not nearly as much as like you two dude, Dan 1471 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:58.599 and uh Jeff and the internet humor stuff like, it's 1472 01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.039 not as bad to me as but I don't love it. 1473 01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.280 But just look at the video, like, oh, this does 1474 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:03.760 look fun. 1475 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.119 I mean that's the thing is like Vampire I love. 1476 01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:08.840 I'm like one hundred percent of Vampire Survivors on three 1477 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.679 different consoles. Basically I love that game. But you know, 1478 01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:14.320 you are kind of just moving around in that game, 1479 01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.639 and I think by making this three D and then 1480 01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.360 it's just like you can break it in ways, like 1481 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:20.400 you know, anyone who's play Vampire Survivors nose you can 1482 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:21.760 break it and like to where you can't even see 1483 01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.199 what's happening on the screen. But imagine if also you 1484 01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:26.559 could be adding to your abilities of what you can do. 1485 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.599 So it's like, for instance, there's a Fox that does 1486 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.480 projectile based like magic damage, and so I picked up 1487 01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.880 Fox and I was like, all right, I'm gonna focus 1488 01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.920 on like projectile stuff. So I got I got that, 1489 01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:38.440 and then I like found a banana banana ring thing 1490 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.880 that does like boomerang stuff. So I'm shooting magic and 1491 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.920 boomerangs everywhere. Then I'm leveling up agility and double jumps 1492 01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:46.960 and speed, and so I'm now at this point I've 1493 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.760 got like a five jump I can do, and then 1494 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:51.880 I get like an epic item that makes me do 1495 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.159 more damage while I'm airborne, so I'm just like quintuple 1496 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.440 jumping across the map, just like shooting bananas and magic 1497 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.000 down on everyone, and like it's fun and awesome, and 1498 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.039 like the monkey has an ability where he can just 1499 01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:04.880 like climb on walls and stuff. And since it's three D, 1500 01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.039 you can just escape or get up to a shrine 1501 01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:09.159 or something easily instead of having to go around. 1502 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.400 Like it's there's more variety in the characters. 1503 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.480 I think that's maybe a benefit to its kind of 1504 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.480 a reverence, is that, like Vampire Survivors, most of them 1505 01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:19.280 kind of fit that like kind of Castlevania Contra type 1506 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.599 character mold, you know, than the among Us stuff or whatever. 1507 01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.719 But this is just like, okay, this is the robot 1508 01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.079 western guy that starts with revolvers. 1509 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.599 Here he's gondoard like with with sunglasses. And I'm like, 1510 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.360 you know what, that one works for me? The internet 1511 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.320 joke that gets me. 1512 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:33.840 I like that. 1513 01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:35.960 Yeah, And they all have like a slide button too, 1514 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:37.880 so you can like slide down hills and so like 1515 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:40.519 the Night surfs on his sword, you know, the monkey 1516 01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.760 just slides on his ass. You know, one of them 1517 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.559 surfboards or skateboards and stuff. 1518 01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:50.119 Like that, the skeleton skateboards. He has a skateboard. 1519 01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:50.559 The whole time. 1520 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:51.119 Yeah. 1521 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.360 Yeah, and even like see of the jokes like I mentioned, 1522 01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.280 like you know, the Mega Chad character, Like he's just 1523 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.920 a big, beefy, you know, Muscle March looking dude, and 1524 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.320 he's got the aura ability, which the aura is just 1525 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:01.400 garlic from garls. 1526 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:03.400 Yeah, I'm looking at him right now. In fact, the 1527 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.199 trailer for the game up was with him doing the 1528 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.360 Randy Orton pose, so yes, yes, So it's like. 1529 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.280 It is fun to be like, Okay, you're just this 1530 01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.239 beefy dude walking around with your aura power up, just 1531 01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.840 like he does this strut through like all these enemies, 1532 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.519 and it's like it works, it looks weird, it's funny, 1533 01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.400 Like I'm willing to look past all the Internet stuff 1534 01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:21.639 for sure. 1535 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:21.880 Yeah. 1536 01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:24.559 Like it's the game makes it easy to ignore because 1537 01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:25.880 it just focuses so much. 1538 01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:26.519 On being fun. 1539 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.159 Yeah, It's like there's just something about that feeling of 1540 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:34.000 upgrading your sword to the point where it's ten instant 1541 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:37.159 attacks back to back that are zooming away from your 1542 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:39.519 character up to like twenty five feet and then you 1543 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:41.800 get a bonus for like attacking in the air or whatever, 1544 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.719 so you're just jumping constantly. It's it's really good, and 1545 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:47.559 then like you know, there's a lot of math happening 1546 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.719 where you're like, Okay, if I go get this power 1547 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.880 up right there, I know I had the shop over there, 1548 01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:54.199 and that'll give me something that'll give me a multiplier 1549 01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:56.440 if I go to get this bonus that makes everyone 1550 01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:59.320 drop more gold, and you just start plotting out these 1551 01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.079 things in your head and it's like you're always busy 1552 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:05.599 doing something fun in the game. It's yeah, it really 1553 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.199 hit me. The first run Dan, I was like, Okay, 1554 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:10.199 I get it. It's like a Vampire Survivors. And then 1555 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:12.480 I played one more run and then I'm like, oh, 1556 01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:14.440 I'm gonna stream this, and then I was like I'll 1557 01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:16.079 do this for half an hour and ended up doing 1558 01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:17.760 like six or seven runs or something like that. 1559 01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:18.519 I couldn't stop. 1560 01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:20.000 I definitely had the thing last night where I was 1561 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:22.159 intending on playing any of these other games and it's 1562 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.159 like I was doing the one more run thing for 1563 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:24.679 a while. 1564 01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:25.320 Playing this. 1565 01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:29.559 Yeah, I think it's tremendous, and like it's the actual 1566 01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:30.519 like objectives and stuff. 1567 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:30.679 You know. 1568 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.800 The Vampire Survivers it was typically you know, survived the 1569 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:34.320 thirty minutes. Then they added a bunch of stuff with 1570 01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.519 the DLC and everything. Here, it's like, you know, find 1571 01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:38.599 a boss, decide when you're gonna spawn the boss. It's 1572 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.159 more like ten minute sequences, So you can spawn the 1573 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:43.920 boss three minutes in if you feel powerful enough, but 1574 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:46.199 you can also spawn it after the ten minutes, but 1575 01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:47.960 that's when like the timer's up and it starts bringing 1576 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.280 in these like stronger waves of enemies to kill you. 1577 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:51.840 So there's like a final strategy with that. 1578 01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:54.639 And then it does the thing between runs the Vampire 1579 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:57.360 Strivers did well, where it's got unlocks in quests and 1580 01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.480 so like you're getting silver during the runs that you 1581 01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.280 use to per just new characters, new items, new tomes, 1582 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.440 things like that. Outside of the runs. You know, when 1583 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.199 you start, you're just gonna have two weapon slots, but 1584 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.639 I see two lock slots next to that, so obviously 1585 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:11.480 at some point I'm gonna be able to have four 1586 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:12.480 weapons maybe more. 1587 01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:13.719 Yeah. 1588 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:16.439 It's I mean, it's it's doing all the things Vampire 1589 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.880 Survivors did in in a different way that I'm really enjoying. 1590 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.159 Hell yeah, hell yeah, looks cool. 1591 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:25.760 I dislike all of you for putting another game on 1592 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.119 my radar that I will not have time for speaking 1593 01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.760 about time, Jeff Becklar, I think it's time for the 1594 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:33.840 Spooky Corner of podcast. 1595 01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:35.239 Well, I need to leave. 1596 01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:38.159 It is the start of fall, I'll have you know. 1597 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.960 It is summer died a summer. 1598 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.479 Yeah, thinking about well, I mean we're gonna be talking 1599 01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:48.600 more about time probably next week, once we can talk 1600 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.319 about a specific game, but we can talk about Cronos. 1601 01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:53.039 Yeah. 1602 01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:54.520 Back, Lar, you got an update for us. 1603 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.600 Yeah, just you know, I made it over the fence 1604 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:58.600 and I just want to let everyone know I got 1605 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:04.000 over that and I survived getting all done. Yeah, that's 1606 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:04.520 how I did it. 1607 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:07.199 Mike, uh patch to come. 1608 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.840 Uh you know, I think when I was playing that, 1609 01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.640 you know, this is not me walking back the criticism 1610 01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:18.600 of that game, because all of my grievance is still. 1611 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:22.560 Absolutely you have a little something else update. 1612 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.239 Look, I think this game, you know, this game is 1613 01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:29.760 truly very scary in a way that I'm sort of 1614 01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:31.800 looking the other way on a lot of the things 1615 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:35.279 that that gum me up with it. I think the 1616 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:39.720 game also has a really uh tough time kind of 1617 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:44.520 like telling you or demonstrating conveying what it wants from you. 1618 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:45.920 Right, I don't want. 1619 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:47.680 To say like, oh, there's a right or wrong way 1620 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.319 to play this game, but there certainly is a way where, like, 1621 01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:52.680 you play this game a certain way and your life. 1622 01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:54.159 Will be that much easier in it. 1623 01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.239 And I'm now that I've kind of like, so, what 1624 01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.439 I'm getting at is it took too long this game 1625 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:03.199 to say what it needs for me. It took way 1626 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.880 too long. It took like four six hours or so 1627 01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.399 to finally like agree to the contract that this game 1628 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:13.319 was offering. I'm playing it. I've decided I'm going to 1629 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:17.680 see it to the end. I think the world building, 1630 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:19.760 I think some of that story stuff is probably the 1631 01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.960 main reason I am carrying along. But I also have 1632 01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:26.159 reached a point now where I'm not as handcuffed as 1633 01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:28.840 I was, and I just think it's worth talking or 1634 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.319 worth mentioning that, like, this is one of those weird 1635 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:36.119 instances where I definitely hit a wall or a tiny little. 1636 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:36.560 Gate and. 1637 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.840 It it for whatever reason, I was compelled to kind 1638 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.359 of like give it one more shot. And thanks to 1639 01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:45.520 that one more shot, I now find myself in a 1640 01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.640 situation where it's like, God, damn, I'm already what fourteen 1641 01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:50.720 hours into this game. I think I'm just gonna finish it. 1642 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:52.560 I think I'm just gonna like see it through and 1643 01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:54.680 that kind of never happened to me where it hasn't 1644 01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:58.279 happened to me in a long while. So it's still 1645 01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.439 very much like a six TOCI. I haven't had a 1646 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:04.279 ten for me, you know, although with the amount of 1647 01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:06.119 games I play, that might be enough to get yourself 1648 01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.079 on the tab ten and uh you know, yeah, so 1649 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:14.399 I definitely have have have softened the the the overall 1650 01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.840 kind of feeling of like this game's making me mad. 1651 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:19.720 But I do think that does say something about the 1652 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.960 game's kind of inability to like say what it wanted 1653 01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:25.000 from me. But yeah, there you go, just a little 1654 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:30.119 Kronos update. Uh, it's it's it is truly the enemies 1655 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.279 in this game are truly some of the most fucked 1656 01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:36.600 up abominations. Uh, you're gonna find it's the. 1657 01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:39.000 Scary juice that you're saying is pulling you through. 1658 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.239 It's that, and it's the it's the sort of like 1659 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.000 very ominous and strange kind of story where it does 1660 01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:48.880 have this twelve Monkey's aspect to it where you're just 1661 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:50.199 like to. 1662 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:52.920 Tie this up. I think I love twelve Monkeys. Yeah, 1663 01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:54.640 should I try it if I look like if that's 1664 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.000 one of my favorite. 1665 01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.439 Movies, if twelve Monkeys is one of your favorite movies 1666 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.760 and you love accordions, No, it doesn't have the accordions 1667 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:05.680 into a monkey. But yeah, I mean they they get 1668 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.239 to a place. You know, all the characters in this game, 1669 01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:10.640 you just don't give a shit about anybody, you know. 1670 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.439 I'm sorry to interrupt this. Whole time, you've brought up 1671 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.560 been talking about Cronos, and you've brought up the comparison 1672 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:18.439 to Twelve Monkeys. 1673 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:19.000 Yeah. 1674 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.399 In my head, I thought it was a different movie, 1675 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.159 and I thought it was the Brendan Fraser two thousand 1676 01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:28.439 and one move Monkey Bone, Monkey Bone. 1677 01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:31.680 Wow, Oh my god, I want a Monkey Bone game, 1678 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.880 Open World Monkey Bone game. God, was there not a 1679 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:36.479 Super Nintendo Monkey Bone game? 1680 01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:38.239 There was no no. That would have been like PS 1681 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.359 one era. There's definitely I cannot believe. 1682 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:45.920 I cannot believe you've reduced the entirety of film down 1683 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:47.039 to just the word monkey. 1684 01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:49.520 And you're like, I saw that twice in theaters. 1685 01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:50.920 Monkey Bone. 1686 01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:53.279 Yeah big, you're a big Chris Catan head. 1687 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.359 Oh huge, huge. There was a time where it was 1688 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:59.880 like the law to go see every Brandan Fraser movie. 1689 01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.800 Like I I didn't like Brendon Fraser and I refuse 1690 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:02.960 to see Monkey Bone. 1691 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:05.800 What a weird he'll can die on. I don't know 1692 01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:07.279 what to tell you about it. He read this like 1693 01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:11.199 I know how to react to the law and I'm 1694 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:13.920 a bad boy. 1695 01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.239 That makes no sense because he is arguably one of 1696 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:20.119 the most likable people to ever act. 1697 01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.119 I trust me, people weren't saying that stuff as much 1698 01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:25.399 back then. So when there was this big like Brandon 1699 01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:27.720 Fraser is the greatest human who ever lived, thing well, 1700 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:29.800 and I think it was a joke between me and 1701 01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.920 my friends how much I disliked him, I felt very uncomfortable. 1702 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:33.960 I was gonna be found out. 1703 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.399 He certainly has had like a real good, charitable five 1704 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.119 years or so, right where like he seems to be 1705 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:43.399 back and embraced in a way that like, I bet. 1706 01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.279 He didn't even see coming. Remember the scene in that 1707 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.479 one movie where he wished for a bigger dick, but 1708 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:50.479 his dick was too big and he had to like 1709 01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:52.239 be like, oh, I'm not quite that big, please. 1710 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.520 I think about it every day. I remember that up. 1711 01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:01.640 But no, Jen, we're talking about twelve monkeys. The Terry Gilliam, Uh, 1712 01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:06.479 Brad Pitt, They're going and made but Dazzled too, Bruce Willis. 1713 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.920 I think Catherine Kerner is in it too. Oh no, no, no, 1714 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.680 not her. I always met her watching. 1715 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:14.640 But Dazzled, like three times in theaters. I think. 1716 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:21.720 Yeah, I looked at look at the poster a lot. 1717 01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:27.279 It's Madeline Stow. Sorry, yeah, told monkeys, yes, monkey Bone. 1718 01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:28.840 Have you seen Twelve Monkeys? Jen? 1719 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:31.359 No, because this whole time I thought Twelve Monkeys was 1720 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:31.720 a monkey. 1721 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:33.680 You need to understand why we all had crushes on 1722 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.039 Madelin Stowe. Go watch it. 1723 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:36.920 Yes, are there monkeys in that movie. 1724 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.159 There's like demon monkeys. 1725 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:42.680 They're like in cages for like ten seconds in like 1726 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:43.119 a flash. 1727 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.680 I think, look at the DVD cover this movie and 1728 01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:47.079 tell me don't want to watch Monkey Bone? 1729 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:52.640 No, no, okay, monkeys monkeys? Yeah, I know about the 1730 01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.000 claym shit monkey and monkey bo Jen. 1731 01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.800 Yeah, I think it's worth watching Twelve Monkeys now. 1732 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.279 Oh yeah, it's it's a classic. 1733 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:02.079 It's a classic. 1734 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:05.479 It seems a few years ago. Still very good. 1735 01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.560 Okay, Okay, I'll do my homework. 1736 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:08.399 But yeah, you know, I'm surprised. 1737 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.479 I don't know, grub maybe it's worth you checking out. 1738 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:11.279 You know. 1739 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:13.399 Again, it's already so it's like I might as well 1740 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.279 Monkey Bone. Yeah you've got Wait, Chronos is on switch? 1741 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:18.119 Is there. 1742 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.760 Probably one switch it's on switch to, But apparently it's 1743 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:24.680 a pretty good version of it. 1744 01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.279 Probably has a good portal switch to. Yeah, that's impressive. 1745 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:33.359 Schemes intensely blue, you know, demanding you know, where's my switch? Anyway, Chronos? 1746 01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.439 There you go. But that was a weird cut discussion. 1747 01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:39.119 Sorry, Yeah, I wonder why that happened. 1748 01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:41.039 Podcast is having about. 1749 01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:42.800 It, and I wonder that's where we went wrong. 1750 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:45.920 Hey, I'm going to say this confidently. I think we're 1751 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.720 the only video game podcast to bring up Monkey Bone 1752 01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:49.399 in the last time. 1753 01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:51.600 You just wait, Ben Hanson is going to do some ship. 1754 01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.560 I feel like I brought it up on several podcasts. 1755 01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.000 I've definitely brought up Dazzled with Mike Maharty several times. 1756 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:00.600 Of course. 1757 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:05.039 Uh, to continue the spooky season, Jeff backall, you and 1758 01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:08.119 I have been playing Silent Hill after. 1759 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:12.439 Yeah, yeah, so, uh do you want to start or 1760 01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:13.239 do you want me to start? 1761 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:14.600 Are you start? Big Doug? 1762 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:15.279 So? 1763 01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:21.039 This uh, this game's really good, you know, it's actually 1764 01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:23.479 like I, I kind of didn't really know what to 1765 01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:27.000 expect from this, and I think the hangover playing the 1766 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.079 remake of Silent Hill too was sort of just like 1767 01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:35.079 very much kind of colored my expectations going into it 1768 01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:37.159 because it was the first time I played I Silent 1769 01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:40.000 Hill game in a while, because there just hasn't been 1770 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:43.199 anything like in that franchise that existed or is worth 1771 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.479 playing in in a great long while. But this game 1772 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.359 is a really interesting evolution of what of what Silent 1773 01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.640 Hill sort of is. And I you know, I've seen 1774 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.600 a lot of people say like, oh, it's sort of Silent. 1775 01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:56.399 Hill in name only. 1776 01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:58.039 I kind of I don't. 1777 01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.399 I don't agree with that. I think it's it's certainly 1778 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:05.520 not the Silent Hill that you remember from the PlayStation 1779 01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:09.039 these but it is definitely a really interesting evolution of 1780 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.439 what this kind of like action horror, and this certainly 1781 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:14.760 I think, you know, there is a good amount of 1782 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:18.920 puzzle solving, There is a good amount of creepy Factor stuff, 1783 01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:20.880 but action is there is a lot of action. 1784 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:21.119 In it too. 1785 01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:24.560 You are fighting a lot of monsters in this. I 1786 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.640 think the overall energy of this game though, is what 1787 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:32.399 has me kind of like just you know, letting it 1788 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.279 wash over me. It is, you know, like the the 1789 01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:41.279 entire esthetic and the sort of stylings of of Japanese 1790 01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.199 culture and and the whole uh set pieces and areas 1791 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.479 that you explore is really intoxicating in a way that 1792 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:52.680 I can't do anything but just be obsessed with all 1793 01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:57.319 of the nuances and attention to detail and you know, 1794 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:03.199 really painstakingly specif art and artifacts that are hidden and 1795 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:05.880 in the world, and you know, it really is just 1796 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:10.039 a excellent combination of things that has me just like 1797 01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.600 I love this man. I I cannot stop playing I 1798 01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.079 Steam says I. I've played like five hours of it, 1799 01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:19.039 but my game clock is more like three. I don't 1800 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:22.199 know what that's about. Steam clock is they gotta get 1801 01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.119 their figure that out, like they don't how many money 1802 01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:29.880 put it together? You know, just can't you just extract 1803 01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.479 the game clock and make that be the thing? Anyway? 1804 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:33.840 Yeah? 1805 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:34.960 What do you think, Jan? 1806 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:38.960 Yes? 1807 01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:39.800 Jan? 1808 01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.000 What do you think about Silent Hill? 1809 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.760 F is the last thing I said before we lost 1810 01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:46.840 Jen forever raptured. 1811 01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:48.800 He went to have it without us. 1812 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.399 If you watch the playback, you can actually see him 1813 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.199 looking up to the heavens. 1814 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:57.840 The Catholic gang signs or whatever they're called. GENI flex what. 1815 01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.640 Catholic the Neil and you got the sign of the Cross? 1816 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:01.720 Yes he did. 1817 01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:04.039 That's what I'm gonna go with. 1818 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:08.720 Yeah, we don't know what Jen thinks about Silent Hill 1819 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:12.159 f but I believe we're gonna be recording a quick 1820 01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:14.960 look today or tomorrow hopefully as power does return, and 1821 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:15.560 we'll get to it. 1822 01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:16.239 But there you go. 1823 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:20.119 That's what I'm feeling regarding the game, Like it is 1824 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:24.720 really surprising. I will not lie. I think there was 1825 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:29.800 a lot of eh, I'll say, reservations I had about 1826 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:35.960 this one, and I'm I'm glad, delighted to be proved wrong, 1827 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.600 not wrong, but maybe just have have my attention corrected. 1828 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.239 And it's pretty wild. Like I think everyone's really skeptical 1829 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.600 about this whole revival of Silent Hill, and there was 1830 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.520 like some weird like live show decision thing that no 1831 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.039 one liked. But you know, the big stuff Silent Hill 1832 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:54.520 to remake above expectations, and this one seems well above 1833 01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.439 expectations too, Like Silent Hill is actually in the best 1834 01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:01.199 place it's been since the PS two Ara ruh right now, 1835 01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:02.079 it's yea like. 1836 01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.479 Company is in the best situation it's been in for 1837 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:08.680 a long time. Maybe not that long, but for quite 1838 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.840 some time. I mean, this is the real bell weather 1839 01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:14.560 for me, that this that they nailed this one. It's like, oh, 1840 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:19.159 Konami can make video games again, like Meadal Gear, Solid Delta, 1841 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.880 Sneakier one to one remake. Yeah, sure, you better get 1842 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:23.600 that right. You have it all right there in front 1843 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.239 of you, Silent Hill to remake even a little bit. 1844 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.359 It's but like you know, it's great to see them 1845 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.000 trying with those to do a whole new Silent Hill 1846 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.920 game and deliver for a fan base that is notoriously picky. 1847 01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:38.119 Maybe the nice way of putting it, I think that 1848 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:39.840 is a This is a real good sign that they 1849 01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:42.880 know how to navigate their own franchises in a really 1850 01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:46.880 solid way. Uh, Becka, can you give me like a 1851 01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:49.199 rundown of like the vibes if they if it's if 1852 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.479 it's not quite feeling like Soundhill, which again I don't 1853 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.960 think we think is a criticism, but like, what are 1854 01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.840 they going for here? Is it's sort of the ring 1855 01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.279 sort of thing. I don't even know what to expect. 1856 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:03.159 A good question, and I think the one the one 1857 01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.720 bit of it was the one characteristic of this game 1858 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:08.880 that's maybe not syncing with me in the best way 1859 01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:12.920 is the overall kind of story. Maybe I'm just a 1860 01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.800 little too early on to have it really kind of register. 1861 01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:19.199 But you sort of play as this schoolgirl who has 1862 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:23.720 conflicts with her friends in her town, and you know, 1863 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:25.960 I'm really not at a point yet where I'm like 1864 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:28.720 fully appreciating the gravity. 1865 01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:29.159 Of that dynamic. 1866 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.359 You know, I want to say, man, I can't really 1867 01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:36.119 remember the year it's trying to take place in. 1868 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:37.119 Maybe I'm fully up. 1869 01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:39.000 I want to say, like sixties. 1870 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.680 Xbox aeron chat say nineteen sixties Japanese feminist movement vibes. 1871 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:46.399 Okay, Yeah, so I mean, you know, and I do think. 1872 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:50.279 You know, I'm playing it with English subs, so it's 1873 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.600 Japanese language English because I'm an anime expert and that's 1874 01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:55.600 how I watch all my anime. Of course we knew 1875 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:59.800 this is how I had the jestice, but it Yeah, 1876 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.199 I think that's the one part that I'm just it's 1877 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:06.000 it's not I'm not fully drifting with the story, but 1878 01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:08.640 as far as like Silent Hill and what you think 1879 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:10.479 in your mind when you think Silent Hill will you 1880 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:13.039 obviously think like a very foggy town and you fee 1881 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:17.680 and you uh, you know disturbingly, uh, you know sort 1882 01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:22.039 of like spasming bloody mannequin enemies, right, like that's who 1883 01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:25.640 you're and you get that. You definitely all those silent 1884 01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.600 hill boxes get ticked in this game. And I think, uh, 1885 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.159 I do think it is uh, it is sort of 1886 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:36.399 the overall vibe of it has been uh brought up 1887 01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:40.000 to the sort of contemporary expectation of like, oh, I 1888 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:41.359 want to be able to like save a lot. I 1889 01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:43.199 want to I want to have different kind of like 1890 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:47.119 upgrading paths. There is an interesting sort of dynamic to 1891 01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.199 which you have to play the games. So you have 1892 01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:54.359 a focus meter, and you have stamina and health, and 1893 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.159 the focus meter is what allows you to like zoom 1894 01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:01.640 like really laser in on enemies, uh, increase your chances 1895 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:07.520 of like high crit damage strikes, and observe their sort 1896 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.600 of behavior so that you can find the right place 1897 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:13.039 to attack. So I think that's interesting. But that is 1898 01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.119 there is a cool down there, like you can. 1899 01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:19.760 Draw all of your all of your focus meter there. 1900 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:20.479 Uh. 1901 01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:24.239 And the stamina meter, you know, is something that you 1902 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:26.680 have to kind of like uh, spin that plate as well. 1903 01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.000 So I think that stuff kind of is so far 1904 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.159 in my experience, has been received really well. It's it's 1905 01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:34.680 a it's not too much where you're sort of babysitting 1906 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:38.119 all of these meters, but you certainly feel a bit 1907 01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:42.680 more of the pressure. And yeah, you know that that's 1908 01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.840 overall kind of like the sort of broad strokes of 1909 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.840 what you're going through in this thing. It's you know 1910 01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:51.319 right now, like, yeah, you have a map, but like 1911 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.640 game does feel a little bit more linear than maybe 1912 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.960 what Silent Hill has sort of offered in the past. Again, 1913 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.760 that's take that for being about four hours into it. 1914 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:07.000 But yeah, you know, I I feel like it's a 1915 01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:11.279 really I think it's a really difficult uh threading of 1916 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:13.399 a needle if you're trying to bring this thing that 1917 01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:17.640 has such a very specific expectation, especially coming off the 1918 01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:22.800 heels of that adapt that remake rather and and have 1919 01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:26.760 it like feel different enough and updated enough. Like I 1920 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.840 think that is really you know, uh, leading the charge 1921 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.920 for how impressed I am by what this overall kind 1922 01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:34.840 of experience is. 1923 01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:36.840 It's awesome. Now. 1924 01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:39.079 The only thing I would also say is like it's 1925 01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:42.319 also not as scary as I want it to be right, 1926 01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:44.840 and they've they've not that it's been watered down, but 1927 01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:48.920 it certainly has a a polish on it that is 1928 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:50.399 not as horrific. 1929 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:54.239 It's that you said the comparison to Chronos or do 1930 01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:56.640 you think just like just you know, by itself in 1931 01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:57.800 a vacuum, you would feel. 1932 01:24:57.640 --> 01:24:58.760 That way in a vacuum. 1933 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:01.479 But it is funny, very there is this overlap with 1934 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:05.079 Kronos where it does have this like breathing flesh bubbles 1935 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:09.439 kind of everywhere, which you're just like the aesthetic Yeah, yeah, 1936 01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:13.199 like you know, paint my walls in that, but yeah, 1937 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:15.399 you know, it does have this interesting sort of like 1938 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.439 flowery horror dynamic too, which I think is an interesting 1939 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:21.439 kind of spin on on on doing it. So yeah, 1940 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.079 you know, I really really that feel like this game 1941 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:27.520 had no business making this much of an impact, but 1942 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.760 it is truly special and definitely worth playing for sure. 1943 01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:33.680 Like we're in the last couple of years, there's been 1944 01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.960 a handful like Spooky and like you'd like Soundhill to 1945 01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.920 last year, A lot was that last year? Yeah, do 1946 01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:41.359 you like is this like ann slot into a similar 1947 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:42.960 tier as that or. 1948 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:43.960 Above it below it? 1949 01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.399 Like what do you think, I think for me right now, 1950 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:51.439 it's it's right there, neck and neck, I think, especially 1951 01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:55.600 to see, you know, having gone through what i'll call 1952 01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:59.239 these areas levels already, like almost a half a dozen 1953 01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.119 of them, now I kind of know the cake. They're 1954 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:06.600 bacon and I'm into it and I and I'm getting 1955 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.640 what I got from that remake last year and different 1956 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:14.119 developer and everything, right, but it's yeah, it really is 1957 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:17.039 doing it for me and the best time you hear 1958 01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:18.000 to be playing this kind of game. 1959 01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.039 Yeah, it's an eighty seven on Open Critic. People seem 1960 01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:21.520 to really like it. 1961 01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:23.479 It seems like it's probably a position to be the 1962 01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.039 new spooky game for this Halloween season, right, which is 1963 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.319 kind of thinks Dounhill too basically had that slot last 1964 01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:32.800 year also, so it's just kind of smart the games around. 1965 01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.560 Yeah, and maybe you know I'm playing it on PC. 1966 01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:42.159 There are such striking visuals and character designs too. There's 1967 01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:44.960 this one character you sort of follow, this fox guy, 1968 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.159 and he's got this mask that's almost sort of like 1969 01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:50.199 stitched into his face, but not in like a gruesome way, 1970 01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:54.159 but just really striking attention to detail and wardrobe and 1971 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:58.760 art direction. It's like really really really polished stuff. 1972 01:26:58.800 --> 01:26:59.560 It's it. 1973 01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:00.680 It looks phenomenal. 1974 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.199 I have this one as well. I've been meaning to play. 1975 01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:08.960 I've not touched it because I'm very busy, but you know, 1976 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.920 it's not October yet. This does feel like one where 1977 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:12.640 it's like where I will be looking for a spooky 1978 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:15.000 game and I'll probably end up picking this one, probably 1979 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:16.720 over Kronos. Yeah. 1980 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.479 I think if you're if you're c song between the two, 1981 01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:23.119 I think this is a no brainer. Really, I saw 1982 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:27.079 someone in Chad ask this and someone on a Blue sky. 1983 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:30.399 If you need to have any kind of like Silent 1984 01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:36.640 Hill fluency going into this, absolutely not. This is this 1985 01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:38.800 is accessible in a really good way. 1986 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.840 So like that that means fully standalone? 1987 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.079 Or does that mean, like I think, fully standalone? I 1988 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.640 mean like you will get tips of the hat right 1989 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:50.119 if you are if you speak the Silent Hill language. 1990 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.840 But if you're going into this having no idea, you're 1991 01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.520 you're gonna be fine, just displayable, excellent. 1992 01:27:57.680 --> 01:27:59.039 I'm glad you liked it. 1993 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:04.000 Hell yeah, all right, Well I'm running the show now, 1994 01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:06.359 so that means we're just gonna talk about hockey for 1995 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.920 the next hour. No, No, we're not. That's actually when we 1996 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:12.039 come back after this break. Just kidding, it'll be the 1997 01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:14.039 news with Jeff Grubb. Stick around. 1998 01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:14.880 We'll be right back. 1999 01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:21.880 Rub It's okay, just look at it. 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Tell me about how that page feels. 2025 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.920 I'm telling you I have held hundreds upon hundreds of 2026 01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:25.800 Game Informer magazines from nineteen ninety three to today, and 2027 01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.640 this is, without a doubt, the best I'm feeling this 2028 01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:29.079 right now. 2029 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:32.079 This is this is a smooth cover, This is a thick, 2030 01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:34.840 nice paper here, the print is just this is this 2031 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.359 is a wonderful quality print magazine. 2032 01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:38.439 It makes my heart feel good. 2033 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:40.680 And I know that Game Informer is a team that 2034 01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.000 I can rely on to say something substantial about games 2035 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.119 and the people who make them, because GII has a 2036 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:47.359 stellar crew of editors. 2037 01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:48.479 These are people I love. 2038 01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:50.399 To have on the couch at Giant Bomb at night 2039 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:52.920 over at Summer Game Fest. 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That's putting it mildly, 2049 01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:20.960 and as someone whose life and gaming hobby has been 2050 01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.680 greatly impacted by both of those outlets, I am thrilled 2051 01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:27.560 that we are both back and doing our thing online, 2052 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:31.439 in your podcast, apps and in print in your hand. 2053 01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:34.720 That is right, gaming news, reviews, everything in between, sent 2054 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:38.640 straight to your mailbox every month. To subscribe, go to 2055 01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:44.600 Game Informer dot com slash subscribe now magazines. 2056 01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.000 All right, we're back on the Giant Bomb Cast. 2057 01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:55.279 Folks. You know what time it is, h It's time 2058 01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:56.000 for the news. 2059 01:30:56.319 --> 01:30:58.359 Jeff Grubb take it away. 2060 01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.079 Okay, let's see here. I have a bunch of news, 2061 01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:15.640 including thirty five minute PlayStation state of play confirmed, including 2062 01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:19.079 house Mark's Sorrows. PlayStation will hold a state of play 2063 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:22.239 live stream on Wednesday, September twenty fourth at two pm 2064 01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:25.359 Pacific time five pm easter In. The event will last 2065 01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:28.760 over thirty five minutes and feature reveals and news from 2066 01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.600 third party and indie developers, as well as updates from 2067 01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:36.039 PlayStation studios. This includes an extended look at Sorrows, Housemark's 2068 01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.960 new title arriving next year, basically the follow up to 2069 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:44.000 Returnal starring Rahul Kohli that's the one we got confirmed 2070 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.000 about what else might be up there. They did say 2071 01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:51.960 updates from other PlayStation studios. Do we hear about fair games? 2072 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:54.279 I don't know. I gotta say one thing real quick. 2073 01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.319 I like these the reason like state of play still, 2074 01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:00.000 even though they're going off to be disappointing. Thirty five 2075 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.760 minutes is such a breath of fresh air after so 2076 01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:05.199 many like a Jeff Keeley is gonna sit you down 2077 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:05.960 for two hours. 2078 01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:10.159 I was just about to say this, Yeah, folks, thirty 2079 01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:14.399 five max Okay, Like, let's be honest. 2080 01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.319 Kirby air ride and we need a couple hours, two 2081 01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:19.479 distinct forty five hour ones. 2082 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.439 Yeah, yes, yes, yeah. 2083 01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.159 By the way, my power almost went out. Well you're 2084 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:29.880 reading that? Are you serious? Almost go out? Everything went rapture, 2085 01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:32.880 The lights went out. I heard beeping in the kitchen. 2086 01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:35.239 What did I stayed on what's the computer? And the 2087 01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:38.960 lights came back on. So okay, I've ever been raptured yet. 2088 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:41.159 I don't know. The second I talked about God at 2089 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:50.199 the top of this, I believe in God. Now that 2090 01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:53.319 is the clean read we've all been waiting for them. 2091 01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:54.880 I just don't think it's gonna believe you the way 2092 01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:57.039 you're like looking up, like do you hear me? 2093 01:32:58.560 --> 01:32:58.880 Panic? 2094 01:32:59.159 --> 01:32:59.359 Yeah? 2095 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.520 And I was like, I believe it got Oh wait, 2096 01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:03.239 I have a power supply back up. 2097 01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:08.800 I forget hey yeah, state of play. Uh, I kind 2098 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:10.920 of forgot about that house Bark game Grab and I 2099 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.680 are a little bit unique ish and that we weren't. 2100 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.520 We weren't super hot on returnal, but I'd be super 2101 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:18.600 willing to play the new game for a. 2102 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:22.199 Sure tremendous game. One of the best PS five exclusives, Yeah. 2103 01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:23.239 Like all eight of them. 2104 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.680 Yeah, yeah, I'll. 2105 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.840 Love Ratchet and Clank, but yeah, sure, oh it's better. 2106 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:29.279 Ratically, I think. 2107 01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:30.800 I think it's one of my favorite rogue lights. Like 2108 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:32.119 it's incredible, It's really good. 2109 01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:33.000 I like it a lot. 2110 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.720 I'm curious to see what this evolution one will be. 2111 01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:38.399 I mean, I bet, I bet they get a lot 2112 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:40.159 of the stuff right that I didn't love, which is 2113 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.159 it felt a bit samy each run, and I bet 2114 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.079 this time they'll like, look to the hadeses and they 2115 01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:45.279 look like some of the other ones that are a 2116 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:48.520 little bit better at offering up a variability in the builds, 2117 01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.199 and they'll nail it. I'm really expecting to nail it 2118 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:53.000 with this because the gameplay was all that stuff, super 2119 01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.319 solid and the atmosphere, and now they have Raju Kohli. 2120 01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:58.359 Uh, that's great. I like that guy a lot. 2121 01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:00.680 Yeah. What else do we expecting to see at this 2122 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:04.560 state of play? I think I'll just reiterate I do 2123 01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.720 think that that God of War to two point five 2124 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:10.520 D metro aid Vanua game probably should show up here. 2125 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:12.199 That was supposed to come out this year. It's coming 2126 01:34:12.239 --> 01:34:15.000 out next year now internally that date moved, so I 2127 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.159 bet they give us an update on that. Between that 2128 01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:19.680 and Sorrows, they could be like, that's the first party 2129 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:22.560 stuff and then here's a bunch of partners partner games 2130 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.119 for thirty minutes. But they could also this is where 2131 01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:27.640 a Wolverine could finally show up. 2132 01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:30.760 Yeah, we got to see something about that one. If 2133 01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:34.000 not here, then I maybe just at the Game Awards. 2134 01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.359 I would like to see something here. It's been a 2135 01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:38.640 while we haven't seen anything since the leak. I think 2136 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.560 we all assume this is going to be their big 2137 01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:45.359 twenty twenty six game. Yeah, see a sign of life. 2138 01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:48.199 Let's see something to get excited about with that one. 2139 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.479 Yep, I did put on the calendar for tomorrow. We 2140 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:54.079 should do a talkover of this happens. 2141 01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:56.319 Yeah, we didn't have anything in that slot anyhow, right so. 2142 01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:57.960 No, no, well we had a meeting, but like, you know, 2143 01:34:58.000 --> 01:34:59.159 nothing live, right. 2144 01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:01.760 Okay, well, fantastic, we'll talk over him. I'm looking forward 2145 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:02.520 to it. Uh. 2146 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:05.039 You know, Nail, these games make that God of War 2147 01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:07.920 metro Evan game look solid. I'll take that. That sounds 2148 01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.159 like a fun time and then you know, one or 2149 01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:12.000 two surprises and that'll be a good state to play 2150 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:12.239 for me. 2151 01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.399 Fair Games, Fair Games. There was that. Uh. 2152 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.880 I guess I should point out there was a on 2153 01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:23.680 Glar gaming Leaks and Rumors, the subreddit uh for leaks 2154 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.199 and Rumors. There was a four Chan post that got 2155 01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:29.800 reposted there that fair Games has been canceled. Guys, that's 2156 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:33.239 where Sony announces everything is on four Chan. Sure that's 2157 01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:33.680 not true. 2158 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:34.159 Not yet. 2159 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:36.880 Listen, that game might get canceled. I don't know, but 2160 01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:39.279 they have not. They've not canceled it yet. Did they 2161 01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.119 remove the dollar sign? I keep forgetting that. 2162 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:45.640 They made it bigger. Is it all caps and dollars sign? 2163 01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:48.479 Yeah? Okay, they made the rest of the letter letter smaller. 2164 01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:50.399 It made the dollars sign bigger, and do. 2165 01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:51.760 You think it's a bad sign for the game. We 2166 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:55.920 don't see it here. Uh yeah, but I mean I 2167 01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:57.319 don't expect to see it here. I listen. 2168 01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:00.439 I think that game does get canceled eventually. It but 2169 01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:02.600 that four chan rumor is just a made up thing 2170 01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:05.840 that's not true yet. Okay, that's got to be a 2171 01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:08.239 tough one. They have not canceled yet. They are still 2172 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.479 working on it, so maybe they have some intention of 2173 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:11.640 showing it off again if they. 2174 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.079 Just keep hoping that Sony is too concerned about Marathon 2175 01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:17.159 to even remember their games long enough to cancel it 2176 01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:17.800 at the moment. 2177 01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:21.680 Chances Oh my god, it's actually in all caps with 2178 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:22.479 a dollar sign. 2179 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:23.199 It really is. 2180 01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:25.960 Worse than. 2181 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:28.840 Like, that's my favorite stupid? 2182 01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:32.399 Is that a lowercase? I for the lowercase? I am 2183 01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:34.880 all caps famous boy? 2184 01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:37.199 But that was also maybe more of a product of 2185 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:41.000 its time. I don't know, you're right though, it is all. 2186 01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:44.359 Yeah, that's where I'm proud to be like, we don't 2187 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:45.640 respect your style. 2188 01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:47.920 Guy, No, we're just going to write it like a 2189 01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:49.479 word with a capital letter. 2190 01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:50.600 But I'm a grown man. 2191 01:36:50.720 --> 01:36:53.520 Please. The worst about this the worst for me as 2192 01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:57.279 a writer was that Warcraft does not have an inner 2193 01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:03.279 cap see and StarCraft, Uh, that's really frustrating. How much 2194 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:04.920 to go to jail? Yes, agreed? 2195 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:06.479 Uh. 2196 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:12.279 Microsoft raised the prices of the xboxes again. Did when did. 2197 01:37:12.159 --> 01:37:14.960 When did Microsoft start wanting to like what did they 2198 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.119 start caring about making money on Xbox? 2199 01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:19.039 They had to start spending more money on AI? 2200 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:21.239 Like it literally is that simple. They like, we want 2201 01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:23.600 to put the money that we are making into AI, 2202 01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:25.880 and it turns out that's actually getting kind of expensive 2203 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.000 and we can't just like for being a two to 2204 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:31.439 three trillion dollar company, we still have to like earmark 2205 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:34.840 this money from somewhere and so, hey, video games, we 2206 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:38.760 don't care about you anymore. Justify yourself by actually making money, 2207 01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:40.920 and so like they can't sell these consoles at a loss. 2208 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:44.880 I guess it sucks. It's stupid, it's terrible. If you 2209 01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:46.880 were like, wait, you talked about this, No, that was 2210 01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.479 four months ago where they raised the price once. This 2211 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:53.680 is a an additional price increase. So the Xbox Series 2212 01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:55.800 X is like six hundred and fifty dollars. Now the 2213 01:37:55.880 --> 01:38:00.359 two terror by Xbox Series X Galaxy Edition is eight 2214 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:05.800 hundred dollars. That's not an Xbox Pro. That's the series 2215 01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.039 X eight hundred dollars for that. 2216 01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:10.479 Oh my god. 2217 01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.159 What is the mood among like you know, because for 2218 01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:15.680 most of the last I don't know, twenty plus years, 2219 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:17.199 there have been you know, very much like you know, 2220 01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:19.800 Xbox fans like this is my brand, like you know, 2221 01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:23.479 like any console it has is the fanboys? Are they 2222 01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:25.960 It's like, I don't know, is it grim They're not 2223 01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:27.880 like I mean telling themselves things are great. 2224 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:31.199 Or sorry to interrupt grub Like if you're a fanboy 2225 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:35.960 and you're that brain broken, right, like you're okay with 2226 01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:39.000 just being like, yeah, hey, tariffs, tariffs suck, you know, like. 2227 01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:40.439 I mean, it is that this is the This is 2228 01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:42.119 just the United States? Is that where this happened. 2229 01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:44.880 It is tariff's But like you're right that you have 2230 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.199 to read a layer deeper than that. If you are 2231 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.640 like serious about selling consoles, if you are in this 2232 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.039 business for the long haul, you have to sort of 2233 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:55.119 take some things. That's the cost of doing business. And 2234 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.760 Sony's doing everything they can to avoid raising prices, right 2235 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.119 they like did that lower model the reduced version of 2236 01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:04.520 the of the PlayStation five in Europe as a smaller 2237 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:08.399 storage in it. You know, Nintendo keeps raising the prices 2238 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.720 of accessories to nickel and dime, their biggest fans and 2239 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:14.000 stuff like that, and Microsoft's like, we don't really care 2240 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:15.560 if you buy an Xbox. Maybe it's kind of a 2241 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.840 half a hassle if you do. And that is pretty 2242 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:21.960 apparent now to everyone, including the biggest fan boys, and 2243 01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:25.560 they all I think they have talked themselves into being like, 2244 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.720 we believe in the new strategy of putting things out everywhere, 2245 01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:31.800 and Xbox can live on as this platform that is 2246 01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:35.159 on PlayStation. I don't know how how much they. 2247 01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:37.600 Believe that, but whatever. Even like gosh back a year 2248 01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:39.800 ago or so, Jeff, when you were first saying like, hey, 2249 01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:42.279 here's the Wars on the table to go to PlayStation, 2250 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:44.000 and like at that point they still had kind of 2251 01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.399 fight in them, the fanboys to get mad about that. 2252 01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:49.399 They want to get mad about that anymore. If there's 2253 01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:50.520 something similar coming. 2254 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.560 If Halo gets announcer PlayStation, that has that happened Actually 2255 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.800 I can't remember now we got gears now, yeah, get 2256 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:57.359 gears yep. 2257 01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:58.880 But if they look at like it. 2258 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:00.680 Will not be the same thing, people would be like, yeah, 2259 01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:02.279 that's this is what this company is now. 2260 01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:03.359 Nobody would be surprised. 2261 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:05.720 Now for the most part, yes, the most part, no 2262 01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:08.000 one would be surprised, Yes, sure, yeah, it just it 2263 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:12.800 It feels like the death throws of a dying something 2264 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:15.560 because you know there will be Xbox publishing for sure. 2265 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:17.399 You know they're doing you know they have call due, 2266 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:19.800 they have a blizzard that do you have these boxes? 2267 01:40:20.199 --> 01:40:22.560 And it is just like, you know, they talk about 2268 01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:25.479 a new console, but I just have such a hard 2269 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.479 time imagining what that looks like, what the sales pitch 2270 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:32.279 for it could possibly be let alone, what the price 2271 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:35.960 for it is. I I almost wonder if they're going 2272 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:37.520 to go through with it, are they really going to 2273 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:40.680 actually make a next gen Xbox right now? If they do, like, 2274 01:40:41.680 --> 01:40:42.760 is it super boutique? 2275 01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:46.079 Is it a one thousand dollars console just for the 2276 01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:49.000 true diehards, the ones that will show out any amount 2277 01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:52.119 of money for it. Maybe that's what they're Maybe that's 2278 01:40:52.159 --> 01:40:54.239 what they were planning to do. Anyhow, Now if you like, 2279 01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:55.399 I think I'm more on your side where it's like, 2280 01:40:55.439 --> 01:40:57.079 I don't even know if they go like follow. 2281 01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:57.199 Through with it. 2282 01:40:57.319 --> 01:41:00.720 This Microsoft feels like the version of Microsoft that's like Yeah, 2283 01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:04.319 we thought about doing another console, but we're just gonna 2284 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:06.760 like be in a situation like this in five years 2285 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:08.359 where we have to keep raising the price because things 2286 01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.399 are just gonna keep getting more expensive and we have 2287 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:12.760 to make more money from a smaller audience. That's not 2288 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:15.159 gonna be worth it to us. They probably still do 2289 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:16.439 another one, but I don't know, go ahead. 2290 01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:20.800 And that's also assuming that they come out of the 2291 01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:26.279 inevitable AI collapse where they're like in a position of like, yeah, 2292 01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:30.319 we're still gonna move forward, right, Like it seems to 2293 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.920 be there as a growing consensus that like the entirety 2294 01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:37.560 of the Americans time market is being propped up on AI. 2295 01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:40.479 Is Microsoft as big on AI as like other huge 2296 01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:41.520 They're one of the biggest. 2297 01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.319 Ones, their open AI's biggest client. 2298 01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.039 Yeah, so is that like you know, they've got the 2299 01:41:46.039 --> 01:41:47.760 co pilot thing and things like that. Is it mainly 2300 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:48.720 that or like what is there? 2301 01:41:49.079 --> 01:41:49.319 Yeah? 2302 01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:51.239 But like you know, I'll try to like give a 2303 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:55.079 quick anecdote about someone who's writing about Satia Nadella, the CEO. 2304 01:41:56.199 --> 01:42:00.680 He apparently like has eight AI h stead he works 2305 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.800 with all day to make all his decisions while we're 2306 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:05.359 running Microsoft and like this is the company that does 2307 01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:08.279 like insists that people use AI agents and their workflow 2308 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:09.960 and stuff like that, and show how they're doing it, 2309 01:42:10.039 --> 01:42:12.720 like they have King doing that. They're like they like 2310 01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:16.199 want AI in everything. They have already put it in 2311 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:18.319 their you know, the co pilot stuff's already their browns, 2312 01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:22.039 roots and windows. Yeah, they're they're super involved in that. 2313 01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.760 And they are a big investor in open ai. So 2314 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:25.760 if it open Ai. 2315 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:27.960 Succeeds, they succeed all this other stuff. 2316 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:30.600 It is the big new strategy of like how to 2317 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:34.159 unlock new growth for these companies. Whether or not they 2318 01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:36.079 get there. I mean, there's going to be a downfall 2319 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:37.760 before they do get there. If they do get there, 2320 01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:41.239 and that's still a huge question in the meantime as 2321 01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:43.199 as far as you know, games go, as far as 2322 01:42:43.199 --> 01:42:47.880 the Xbox goes, certainly momentum will carry them a certain 2323 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.039 amount because they were going to make another console. They 2324 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:54.560 probably are just because that was the plan. And despite 2325 01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:57.359 like layoffs, despite cutbacks. At a certain point it's like, well, 2326 01:42:57.399 --> 01:42:59.439 we're not getting rid of this whole brand, and we 2327 01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:00.760 already start to making this thing. 2328 01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:03.199 We have a partnership with AMD. We're going to see 2329 01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:03.840 this stuff through. 2330 01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:06.000 I just don't. I just don't. 2331 01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:07.600 Their heart isn't into it, and that's obvious. 2332 01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:10.800 They are positioning this thing so that people won't want 2333 01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:12.399 to buy an Xbox. It's kind of no, there's no 2334 01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:14.199 other way to look at just the way this is 2335 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:16.720 breaking down, and you know that's the next story. Costco 2336 01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:20.920 quietly removes the Xbox section from its US and UK websites. 2337 01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:24.079 Costco has quietly removed all Xbox products from its US 2338 01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:27.600 and UK websites, with no search results or dedicated sections 2339 01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:30.399 for the brands. Nintendo and Sony products, including the Switch, 2340 01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.680 Switch to and PlayStation five, remain available. This change was 2341 01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.359 first noticed by a reset reset era user, and Reddit 2342 01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:39.920 users reportedly observed the absence of Xbox products last month. 2343 01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:42.840 To me, this is like it's probably like not a 2344 01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.640 lot of people buy an Xboxes. But also you can't 2345 01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:49.039 rely on like the price maintaining consistency. So they're like, 2346 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:50.680 we don't even want to deal with this, and we're Costco. 2347 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:53.000 We have a certain reputation. We don't want to deal 2348 01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:54.560 with these things going up every four months. 2349 01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:58.039 It's going to be expensive to just stock them now too, right, Yeah. 2350 01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:02.640 Yeah for sure, And so I think that that's wild, right, 2351 01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:04.680 But I think this is like the you know, this 2352 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:07.079 is telling the whole story here to a certain degree. 2353 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:10.159 It's like they are not happy to be in this business, 2354 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:12.279 and it feels like and certainly they don't seem to 2355 01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:14.560 care to fix that, or if they did, that is 2356 01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:15.359 long gone. 2357 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.279 Do you think it's more likely that, you know, ten 2358 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:22.000 years from now, Microsoft is in a current Sega situation 2359 01:44:22.279 --> 01:44:23.600 or just out of games. 2360 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:25.039 Now they like. 2361 01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:27.720 So it's very different from Sega in terms because they 2362 01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.520 have two of the biggest games in the world Minecraft, 2363 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:34.039 Call of Duty, honestly that they have World of Warcraft, 2364 01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:39.039 they have Candy Cross Saga. This is they have things 2365 01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:42.600 that print money and many of those things called Duty, Minecraft, 2366 01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:45.680 especially World Warcraft. To a certain degree, they are platforms 2367 01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:48.439 unto themselves in an era where the video game is 2368 01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:51.359 the platform. You know, kids do not think of Xbox 2369 01:44:51.399 --> 01:44:54.319 as a platform. They think of Fortnite and Roadblocks and 2370 01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:56.319 Minecraft as the platform where they go in and they 2371 01:44:56.399 --> 01:44:59.600 find other games inside of the game. Microsoft's got a 2372 01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:02.039 pretty decent head start there, so they're kind of I 2373 01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:04.760 think that is their revision of the future is we 2374 01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:07.319 will have the software as a service. The product is 2375 01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:11.600 the service and not the hardware, and so they are 2376 01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:14.000 trying to push these things so that like they can 2377 01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:16.279 be in a situation where they can maybe put an 2378 01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:20.319 Xbox Store on any device, including a PlayStation or a switch, 2379 01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:23.199 and get the full one percent of the revenue for 2380 01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:25.439 selling something without giving a cut to these other companies. 2381 01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:27.319 They're a long way off from that, but that's where 2382 01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:30.399 the way regulation is going, at least on cell phones, 2383 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.000 and I think Microsoft will eventually try to argue maybe 2384 01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:37.399 something similar should happen on consoles so that, Yeah, it's 2385 01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:39.600 they'll still be in games. They did invest a lot 2386 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:41.880 and they stand to make a lot of money from 2387 01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:44.800 these things. It's just not the future is not the 2388 01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:47.800 console business in general, and especially for Xbox. 2389 01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:50.279 Maybe feature more. You know, we're getting the Xbox branded 2390 01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:54.000 rog ally, right, or things that are Xbox branded. That 2391 01:45:54.039 --> 01:45:56.840 next console might basically be a glorifyed PC. 2392 01:45:57.119 --> 01:45:57.720 Stuff like that. 2393 01:45:58.119 --> 01:45:58.399 Yep. 2394 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:02.000 And don't worry, Dan, when all of these companies take 2395 01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:05.479 their losses with AI, we will bail them out. 2396 01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:12.520 Giant bomb against that. I'm voting against that. 2397 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:16.159 All right, Let's keep going. 2398 01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:20.079 That really was a dagger for you didn't. 2399 01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:27.600 Like those I just dial a little bit that was yeah, 2400 01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:31.239 oh god, he's right, because the whole economy is built on. 2401 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:33.560 Why would taxes pay for company failing. 2402 01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:37.479 Well, we've done it before, Dan, because so many jobs 2403 01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:39.880 and so much of the economy is intermingled and stuff 2404 01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:42.039 like that will be the like, there's a chance we 2405 01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:44.000 might not do it, but we've done it for banks. 2406 01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:45.640 We've done it for banks. 2407 01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:50.399 All we do is for banks an airline company, Guys, they. 2408 01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:52.680 Say they're the companies. Why do we have to pay 2409 01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:52.960 for it? 2410 01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:53.359 Dan? 2411 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:55.159 You got some points there, for sure, you know what. 2412 01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:57.039 I'm okay with a certain point of bailing them out, 2413 01:46:57.079 --> 01:47:00.119 but maybe like prosecute people who made bad decisions and 2414 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:01.960 caused the crisises in the first place. 2415 01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:04.319 Well, we don't do any of that either. So fun 2416 01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:05.439 times people. 2417 01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:07.000 Bring up two thousand and eight. I'll be honestly, you 2418 01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:08.479 have no idea what happened in two thousand and eight. 2419 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.680 Well, just honestly, if. 2420 01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:16.680 You guys saw it on a plane, I forgot sequential 2421 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.640 event of your entire adult life. 2422 01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:21.000 Nine eleven. 2423 01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:24.359 Honestly, I know their movies and their entertainment. But Adam 2424 01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:27.520 McKay does have like a pretty good run like American 2425 01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:34.960 quasi documentary. Yeah, watch mice and watch Uh Big Short. 2426 01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:37.479 Procession is everything. It's set up everything, Like when we 2427 01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:39.760 did not prosecute the people that did that, that's when 2428 01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.439 the government really broke. That is when we truly actually 2429 01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:43.079 lost our way. 2430 01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:44.960 It had something new with houses. I remember that from 2431 01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:46.039 the Only Houses. 2432 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:49.920 Watch the Big Short that's your homework. Yeah, I thought. 2433 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:54.359 Basically the short version is banks lied to the people 2434 01:47:54.359 --> 01:47:57.319 that like assess, Like when they bundle all the mortgages together, 2435 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.680 the banks lied to the people that assess that those 2436 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:01.840 people were okay with them, like they were making money 2437 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:03.920 from it. And then the banks just kept doing that 2438 01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:07.479 over and over and bundling back together. It's not it's 2439 01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:09.399 not in trouble. 2440 01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:11.640 Why did we have to pay the money. 2441 01:48:11.359 --> 01:48:14.800 Because it fucked us all so bad? Yeah? Why are 2442 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:15.640 they allowed to do that? 2443 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:19.439 Yeah? Because they have a lot of money and it's horseship. 2444 01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:22.479 It's frustrating hearing you said, just just just just watch, 2445 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:24.800 just watch it again, all right? 2446 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:28.640 Hito koj and Jordan Peel's o D gets first proper 2447 01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:32.199 trailer and the PT vibes are strong. Uh, did you 2448 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:33.399 guys get a chance to catch up? 2449 01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:35.760 With any of this. Coach of a stream from last night, 2450 01:48:36.319 --> 01:48:39.079 three hours long. There was quite a bit of it. Okay, 2451 01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:41.640 what did he have to say about A Yeah, he 2452 01:48:42.159 --> 01:48:44.000 has some idea. He's like, it's gonna make it cheaper 2453 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:45.199 because I don't have to pay as many people to 2454 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.239 make games for real. I was, Oh, your hero. 2455 01:48:50.439 --> 01:49:06.439 Okay, mister Disney, Yeah, you're right, Disney Disney Redemption are totally. 2456 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:10.159 Took you long enough to stop watching w W A Internet. 2457 01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:13.119 So far. I think MIC's up three to two. 2458 01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:15.479 Can score here? 2459 01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:17.000 God damn it. 2460 01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:20.760 Okay, I'll go through this this rundown of some stuff. 2461 01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:24.680 Coach unveiled details about several projects. At the tenth anniversary 2462 01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:28.239 celebration of Kochma Productions. He revealed the first trailer for 2463 01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:31.039 his horror game OD, developed with Jordan Peel and published 2464 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:33.680 by Xbox Game Studios Good Luck with That. The trailer, 2465 01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:38.600 subtitled Knock, features Sophia Lillis and evokes PT Coach. You know, 2466 01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:42.159 like the trailers, like she is supposed to go light 2467 01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:45.119 some candles to do something, like like there's a car 2468 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:47.199 that is light the candles to do something and it's 2469 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.600 like great out. It's like I like the like redacted 2470 01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:51.880 stuff like all like blurring, so like that was cool. Yeah, 2471 01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:53.319 that was It's a cool effect. And then she likes 2472 01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:54.960 some candles and then some hands come out and grab 2473 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.039 her and she looks super scared and looks kind of awesome, 2474 01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:00.359 and it does have strong PT vibes, and I'm like, oh, man, 2475 01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:03.680 coach doing a scary game actually is something we still 2476 01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:06.399 have not really had. This is exciting. 2477 01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:08.800 The close up on the face, like, oh my god, 2478 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:11.199 with the eye movements and stuff like that looked fucking. 2479 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:12.800 This looks cool. 2480 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.800 It's really cool and I love PT. 2481 01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:20.920 PT was awesome. Yeah, so if he's going to kind 2482 01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:24.239 of keep going with that, that's exciting. Let's see here 2483 01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:28.000 that that it has evokes coach of was canceled Silent Hills. 2484 01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:32.039 Coachman mentioned scanning real world scary locations and joked about 2485 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:33.079 scanning a ghost. 2486 01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:36.399 He wasn't joking, joking at all. 2487 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:40.720 He also updates on his PlayStation tactical espionage game Isn't 2488 01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.279 a Spiritual successor to Middle Gear Solid, announcing Charlie Frazier, 2489 01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:49.720 Madong Sik, and Minami Hamabe as cast members. Additionally, Kochama 2490 01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:53.560 Productions is collaborating with Niantic on an r game described 2491 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:56.520 as like the Real Death Real World Death Stranding. 2492 01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:57.239 Uh. 2493 01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:01.359 Finally, director Michael Sarnowsky provide details about the Death Stranding 2494 01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:04.079 movie from A twenty four, stating it will tell a 2495 01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:07.079 new story with new characters within the game's world. They 2496 01:51:07.119 --> 01:51:11.039 had a lot happening here. I guess, Dan, how are 2497 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:14.920 feeling about Koachum productions. I'm very curious about ode. 2498 01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:17.439 I've never been the biggest horror game guy in the world, 2499 01:51:17.439 --> 01:51:20.079 but like you know, I do love his sensibilities and 2500 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:23.199 I watched that trailer this morning and looked very very good. 2501 01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:27.039 I obviously what he has said about physn't sounds way 2502 01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:30.119 more up my alley. So looking forward to seeing more 2503 01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:32.720 about that, But I don't expect anything aime soon. 2504 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:34.920 That's still right, That still seems like it's very far 2505 01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.600 away for sure. But yeah, I know fact that he's 2506 01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.239 out there, but like kind of beating his chest about it. 2507 01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:42.439 I mean, that's this stream was very much like celebrate me, 2508 01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:44.239 but hey, that's Kochima. 2509 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:47.560 Yeah. Betty talked more about how his games are going 2510 01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:51.439 to be kind of like a movie games together. You think, 2511 01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:54.279 a fascinating, a fascinating idea. 2512 01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:55.560 Oh, I, Uh yeah. 2513 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:57.159 When you said Charlie Frazier, I was like, Oh, I 2514 01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:58.800 wonder if that's is that the cast? Is that the 2515 01:51:58.800 --> 01:52:01.199 main dude or whatever on that hoster? I was curious 2516 01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:03.960 what he was in. Oh no, it's the gorgeous woman 2517 01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000 from Furiosa, which that makes a lot of sense to. 2518 01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:08.319 Say, you have a question? 2519 01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:08.720 Does she have? 2520 01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:10.279 Wait? No, he is he a foot guy? 2521 01:52:10.319 --> 01:52:11.159 I see one of the guys. 2522 01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:12.319 That's Tarantin. 2523 01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:14.000 That's yeah. I thought there was a video game guy 2524 01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:15.720 that was in defeat. But I don't think it's I'll 2525 01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:17.560 tell you what. I don't think he's a foot person. 2526 01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:21.000 Okay, he's just a scanning human bodies guy. Yeah. Yeah, 2527 01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:25.720 he likes actors and actresses. And then, uh well, stop 2528 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:28.239 the presses. It's time everybody. He finally did it what 2529 01:52:28.279 --> 01:52:31.399 we've all been asking him to do. Adeo Kojima's latest 2530 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:35.760 project is a credit card. Is partnering with a bank 2531 01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:38.800 to release a credit card, a first for the game developer. 2532 01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:42.199 The card will all allow users to earn points redeemable 2533 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.760 for Kojuma related rewards and merchandise. 2534 01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:49.720 Jesus car, Yeah. 2535 01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:51.560 I mean it's I guess it's just like a you know, 2536 01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:53.920 you get a Disney credit card or whatever. You know, 2537 01:52:54.039 --> 01:52:56.600 I a United credit card. Now you can get one 2538 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.600 for coach. It is Japan only, but maybe this is 2539 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:01.359 worth moving in the Japan for so I can finally 2540 01:53:01.359 --> 01:53:03.159 get this. I don't know, we'll. 2541 01:53:02.960 --> 01:53:06.199 Put you over the edge, right, this is a that's 2542 01:53:06.199 --> 01:53:06.960 a weird thing. 2543 01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:08.239 Can we just a weird thing? 2544 01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:10.439 An extremely weird thing? 2545 01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:15.880 Yeah? Like you know, it's just about a brand. Like 2546 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.680 here's some perks at least you know, Disney cards or 2547 01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:20.800 it's like you get perks in the parks or something. 2548 01:53:21.199 --> 01:53:24.159 What what could the perks like points, redemo for KA 2549 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:27.399 relater rewards and merchandise. How much of that does one 2550 01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:28.600 person possibly need? 2551 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:33.520 I mean, listen, metal gear. 2552 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:36.840 I don't need to get a credit card. 2553 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:41.279 Rewards could be metal gear related. 2554 01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:43.880 That means somewhere out there there is a person who 2555 01:53:43.960 --> 01:53:46.239 is going to be like so deeply in depth in 2556 01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:53.159 kojimaa right, just have like interest on purchases made with 2557 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:54.159 their Kojima card. 2558 01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.680 Why can't you just get a used car dealership like 2559 01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:58.439 Mark Wahlberg or something, or. 2560 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:07.479 Yeah yeah, or a tequila brand right, yeah exactly yeah? 2561 01:54:05.960 --> 01:54:09.239 AlOH wait, yeah wait I think he did do sake. 2562 01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:12.840 I think I think that was announced during this as 2563 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:14.920 well as chat. Correct me, I didn't watch the whole thing, 2564 01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:18.520 but I saw something he did sake, so yeah, I 2565 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:22.720 would get that. Yeah, the credit card thing is a 2566 01:54:22.760 --> 01:54:25.279 little bit embarrassing. Being in bed with a bank is 2567 01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:27.560 always kind of like, man, there's just nothing. 2568 01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:30.640 The banks caused a two thousand and eight financial crisis. 2569 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:35.239 Exactbruary right now, Yeah, coach can do this, That's what, right, Like, 2570 01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:37.239 I mean, there's a need to do a lot, let's 2571 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:37.720 be honest. 2572 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:39.760 But I bet, I bet it's real good money, just 2573 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:41.720 like all those people doing the gambling ads, like. 2574 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:47.239 I'm sure Kevin Hart or something, Ken you need the money. 2575 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:50.439 That's like no. And John Ham. John Ham's like in 2576 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.880 every bet e GM or whatever it is. It's like, 2577 01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:54.760 oh my god. But they pay him enough. 2578 01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:57.359 That people just look the other way, all right. 2579 01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:00.760 Kuonami polls fans to get their thoughts on which Metal 2580 01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:04.720 Gear game it should remake next. Basically, survey went out 2581 01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:06.960 and they had a bunch of questions about metal Gear, 2582 01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:10.319 a lot of innocuous stuff, but one question called people's attention. 2583 01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:12.840 There was a list of games saying, hey, which of 2584 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:14.760 these and mark as many as you want. Do you 2585 01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:16.720 want to see a remake of And it's basically every 2586 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:21.159 Metal Gear game ever from MSX games, not the Acid games, 2587 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:24.359 but just about everything else. And people are like taking 2588 01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:27.039 this as a sign as this is Konami's long term strategy, 2589 01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:29.800 which I think is a safe assumption. So let me 2590 01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:32.000 ask you, guys, what do you expect and what do 2591 01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:32.920 you think they should do? 2592 01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:35.640 Yeah, this is what I want them to do with 2593 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:37.800 metal Gear. You know, for all the calls for like, oh, 2594 01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:39.800 they're gonna start making new Metal Gear games whatever, I 2595 01:55:39.800 --> 01:55:42.399 don't want that. That story has been told. They would not. 2596 01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:44.800 You know, the remake, they did a great job with that. 2597 01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:49.000 Keep doing that, have Delta be the remake branding, and 2598 01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:53.119 then go on I think chronologically through the Solid series. 2599 01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:55.520 I think not. I don't know if Phantom Pain is 2600 01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:56.880 too new and too big, but I. 2601 01:55:56.800 --> 01:55:58.960 Think don't actually put the ending back in. If they 2602 01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:00.359 did Phantom Pain at least if. 2603 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:03.119 They have all the actual like Kajima stuff, you know, 2604 01:56:03.399 --> 01:56:04.359 like they don't. 2605 01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:06.439 Make it, they showed it in that one like special feature, 2606 01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:08.920 they have all the recorded dialogue and whatnots. 2607 01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:10.840 Yeah, I'm thinking to do it right sure, but I 2608 01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:14.000 would want one next, like a faithful recreation of one, 2609 01:56:14.039 --> 01:56:17.079 not a I like twins next. I'm a defender, but like, yeah, 2610 01:56:17.079 --> 01:56:20.399 I do a three style remake of one, then two 2611 01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:22.279 is what I would want. And then they want to 2612 01:56:22.319 --> 01:56:24.119 go crazy for but down the line. 2613 01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:26.000 So I agree, I don't want them to make a 2614 01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:28.279 completely new game. But that's why I think it's so 2615 01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:31.560 interesting that you have just the metal gear gears, Yes, 2616 01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:34.399 because you do so much with those. If you remake those, 2617 01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:37.079 what's not see Like, I'm surprised it doesn't come off 2618 01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:38.800 as the slam dunk. It seems to be to me 2619 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:42.399 because you remake those games and you're basically are making 2620 01:56:42.439 --> 01:56:45.039 new games, but you're still following the story and plot 2621 01:56:45.199 --> 01:56:45.600 of those. 2622 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:47.760 But when people say that, because I hear that brought 2623 01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:51.039 up a lot, like are you imagining like a you know, 2624 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:52.960 Delta quality of graphics? 2625 01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:56.279 Like you know, okay, okay. 2626 01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:58.960 I mean, yeah, I guess just you. I mean, there's 2627 01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:00.640 not that much dialogue and stuff in the. 2628 01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:03.560 That's why that's why you get to kind of work 2629 01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:05.920 with it. You get to develop those characters. Yeah, I 2630 01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:06.960 just kind of don't. 2631 01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:10.000 I like the faithfulness of three, and like I don't 2632 01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:13.880 like the idea of non Kajima people writing snake dialogue 2633 01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:14.279 and everything. 2634 01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:17.319 You know, it's gonna it's gonna happen. It will happen, 2635 01:57:18.359 --> 01:57:20.960 like maybe not a full new game, but they will 2636 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.399 find a space like this in like an MSX remake 2637 01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:24.640 and they'll have to do it. 2638 01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:26.520 And all right, I'll try to write it. 2639 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:31.520 Yeah, I think I I don't think they go there first. Honestly, 2640 01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:34.279 I think they do just do two next, even chronological, 2641 01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:36.800 because that's another PS two one. A lot of the 2642 01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:39.039 tech they did to remake three is going to slot 2643 01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:42.239 really easily into a Malgarsla to remake, and maybe then 2644 01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:43.199 they'll do one at that. 2645 01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:46.600 Point, Like I think you do one then too, they 2646 01:57:46.640 --> 01:57:47.000 might do. 2647 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:50.399 One then too. And I hope I I don't hate 2648 01:57:50.439 --> 01:57:52.079 Twin Stakes. I think I like it less than you. 2649 01:57:52.239 --> 01:57:54.399 I think that just kind of shoving. I would never 2650 01:57:54.439 --> 01:57:56.279 want to play Twin Stakes again, that's all. Yeah. I 2651 01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:59.199 put through it once and it was okay. Uh, the remake, 2652 01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.479 and I hope the remake get more thoughtfully than just 2653 01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:05.199 kind of you know, uprising Twin Snakes or throwing in 2654 01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:07.920 the mechanics that Twin Snakes did, like first person aiming 2655 01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.439 without rebalancing the rest of the game around that. So like, 2656 01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:13.680 oddly enough, I think it's it's actually a lot more 2657 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:15.840 work to remake Melgar Solid one than it is to 2658 01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:18.119 remake Melgar Slid two, which is one of the reason 2659 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:20.800 why I think they might just do a lot with 2660 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:22.199 three ars on the same stime, so a lot of 2661 01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.680 the same mechanics. Yeah, yeah, so I bet, yeah, those 2662 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:28.159 will happen. But I don't know. I was you know, 2663 01:58:28.399 --> 01:58:30.479 I get you mean, Dan, that's gonna be hard for 2664 01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.920 people to ever see the non Kojuma Metal Gear game, 2665 01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:36.520 But I do think if you're gonna do that, I 2666 01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:39.840 would much rather see, Yeah, Metal Gear one remade, then 2667 01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:42.279 here's our metal Gear Solid six. 2668 01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:44.880 And you know they could do it with hater obviously 2669 01:58:44.960 --> 01:58:47.359 no haters. Right at the Economy event that I went 2670 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:49.199 to in New York, like, you know, he recorded some 2671 01:58:49.239 --> 01:58:52.760 new dialogue for Delta, Like, you know, there's a character. 2672 01:58:52.640 --> 01:58:54.560 Kind of fun it would have been in five, right, 2673 01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:56.119 Like even if they even with all the like the 2674 01:58:56.159 --> 01:58:58.520 lore reasons why the voice is different. 2675 01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:02.239 Yeah, I mean, well they had an out with the 2676 01:59:02.439 --> 01:59:06.199 uh lore. There was no there was a perfect opportunity 2677 01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:07.119 to have hater be in there. 2678 01:59:07.199 --> 01:59:10.479 Yeah, so could have been in there anyways. Yeah, well good, 2679 01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.000 it's did they really list meda Your Slid five Ground 2680 01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:14.920 Zeros and Milk Your saw at five? The Phantom pain 2681 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:16.800 is different options in this by like because it be 2682 01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:20.239 clear if you remake these games, those two better just 2683 01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:21.159 be one. Now. 2684 01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:22.640 Yep, they did do that. 2685 01:59:22.720 --> 01:59:26.279 Yes, yeah, Grand Zeros is a demo essential the standalone demo. 2686 01:59:26.359 --> 01:59:29.000 It's it was cool at that it had some really 2687 01:59:29.199 --> 01:59:30.520 quite a lot of that. It was a good thing. 2688 01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:32.680 That's great. That's you know, I won't get into it. 2689 01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:34.199 That was the one where they went too far with 2690 01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:37.880 certain subject matter. I think actually went way, way, way 2691 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:38.560 too far. 2692 01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:42.039 We're playing that in Japan at at Konami with Tim 2693 01:59:42.079 --> 01:59:44.279 Turry and we got to that part and Ground Zeros 2694 01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:45.880 and like you know, before any of this had been 2695 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:48.079 seen and Tim looking at you to tell me like, oh, 2696 01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:49.199 people aren't gonna like that. 2697 01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:51.279 Real bad. 2698 01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:54.439 Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, last story here. 2699 01:59:54.560 --> 01:59:58.159 Pal Farm announced Pocket Pair announced pow World pal Farm, 2700 01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:01.119 a farming simulation spin off of Power World where players 2701 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:04.800 build and managing farm with the help of pals, mysterious 2702 02:00:04.840 --> 02:00:08.720 creatures with the unique abilities. Didn't the Pokemon Company just 2703 02:00:08.760 --> 02:00:12.520 announced like basically their equivalent with Ditto. Uh yeah, so okay, 2704 02:00:12.720 --> 02:00:16.560 more more fireworks here maybe, but I listen, I thought 2705 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:20.119 Power World was okay, this sounds alright to me. It 2706 02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:21.479 makes a lot of sense that they would do it though. 2707 02:00:21.479 --> 02:00:23.039 This is a genre that a lot of people are 2708 02:00:23.039 --> 02:00:29.479 excited about. Sure, that's pretty good. 2709 02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:31.119 All right, that's that's the news. 2710 02:00:31.279 --> 02:00:32.920 I having the show back over to backlar. 2711 02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:34.680 How am I supposed to follow that? 2712 02:00:34.880 --> 02:00:35.520 I don't know. 2713 02:00:35.680 --> 02:00:39.239 This is what he does, tremendous stuff. Mikey will be 2714 02:00:39.399 --> 02:00:42.079 back with emails on the other side of this. 2715 02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:44.760 It was the wind up. It was the That's what 2716 02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:45.439 really got me. 2717 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:49.159 I know, man, sometimes he really knocks him dead. He 2718 02:00:49.199 --> 02:01:02.000 pulls it off, but he does back after this. Oh, 2719 02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:05.159 it's emails time. That's a right, bombcasta giant bomb dot com. 2720 02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:10.600 That's the email address BombCast at giant bomb dot com. 2721 02:01:10.680 --> 02:01:16.159 Let's get into a few of these that Jen has selected. First, 2722 02:01:16.159 --> 02:01:19.479 one is from Mike what's an old game you love 2723 02:01:19.680 --> 02:01:23.079 that were it to receive a sequel, wouldn't need much 2724 02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:26.640 beyond a modern scope or control scheme to be an 2725 02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:31.359 all time banger. My answer is general chaos a strange 2726 02:01:31.399 --> 02:01:36.560 real time squad battling game for Genesis. All it needs 2727 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:38.520 is a little time in the sun to grow. 2728 02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:40.079 It would bear many fruit. 2729 02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:42.279 I don't know what that game is. 2730 02:01:42.439 --> 02:01:44.760 I rented that as a kid for the Genesis and 2731 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:47.359 I thought I had a cool cover and a cool name, 2732 02:01:47.439 --> 02:01:49.640 and then it was like a real time thing and 2733 02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:51.680 not like an action game, and I had no idea 2734 02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:53.239 what was going on. I think there was a cursor, 2735 02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:54.279 and so I just freaked out. 2736 02:01:54.319 --> 02:01:55.560 Oh yeah, yeah, that would scare you. 2737 02:01:55.960 --> 02:01:57.560 Yeah. Yeah. 2738 02:01:57.680 --> 02:02:03.039 My answer for this is Ason Skies. This really neat, 2739 02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:08.239 kind of like World War two or one ish era fighting. Yeah, 2740 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:10.840 I played a long night history thing. Yeah, it's super cool. 2741 02:02:10.840 --> 02:02:14.159 It has a really neat, fun kind of serial style 2742 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:17.640 to it, so it just stands out visually. It's a 2743 02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:20.560 great game on the Xbox, and even on the Xbox 2744 02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:22.279 it was kind of like a bit open in a 2745 02:02:22.319 --> 02:02:24.199 way I think would work really well now with just 2746 02:02:24.239 --> 02:02:27.840 some modern graphics and slight tweaks. It's always one that 2747 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:29.760 I wish they would have gone back to, and now 2748 02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:31.680 that they're in this kind of position where they see 2749 02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:34.600 to be winding down a lot of initiatives to make 2750 02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:38.720 new games, or bring back old franchises, right, like was 2751 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:40.520 last day. I tried to bring back an old franchise, 2752 02:02:40.720 --> 02:02:43.479 Perfect Dark and Fable. Perfect Dark was canceled. We'll see 2753 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.000 if Fable makes it, so I don't know. I'm not 2754 02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:48.520 holding my breath for Crimson Skies lately. 2755 02:02:49.159 --> 02:02:52.039 And that was that was because it was very rocketeer coded, 2756 02:02:52.119 --> 02:02:52.880 right yeah? 2757 02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:53.399 Huge? 2758 02:02:54.079 --> 02:02:55.000 You have Dark Void guy? 2759 02:02:55.600 --> 02:02:56.720 Yeah? 2760 02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:59.680 Well I love that, man, I really did wait or 2761 02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:00.600 Dark Sector? 2762 02:03:01.199 --> 02:03:05.159 Well, Dark Sector was and Dark Dark Dark Void. Lloyd 2763 02:03:05.279 --> 02:03:08.079 was the jetpack? Was that the vertical Gears of War? 2764 02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:11.439 Dark Sector is basically Gears of War? 2765 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:15.159 Right well? Yeah like pop kind of thing. 2766 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:19.560 Yes'lloyd dark Boards? Oh who can remember these? 2767 02:03:19.760 --> 02:03:19.960 Yeah? 2768 02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:25.439 Uh mine is Gunstar Heroes. I think you could take 2769 02:03:25.479 --> 02:03:29.359 that game pretty much as is, give it a I mean, 2770 02:03:29.680 --> 02:03:31.840 I wouldn't want to change visually all that much, but 2771 02:03:31.880 --> 02:03:33.920 you could just add maybe a couple more mechanics, even 2772 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:36.399 make it even more complicated, because I think developers realize 2773 02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:39.119 players can handle a lot more, and you would just 2774 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:40.800 have a classic. I mean, so like that original one 2775 02:03:40.880 --> 02:03:43.720 is a classic. I think you could do one today 2776 02:03:44.119 --> 02:03:46.079 kind of in the streets of Rage four fashion that 2777 02:03:46.199 --> 02:03:48.159 sort of follow up and it would just nail. 2778 02:03:48.159 --> 02:03:50.159 It would be you play the GBA one. 2779 02:03:50.640 --> 02:03:52.000 Uh I think I did. 2780 02:03:52.079 --> 02:03:53.760 Yes, I think honestly that that's what actually got me 2781 02:03:53.800 --> 02:03:55.800 into And then I went back to Gunstar heroes like 2782 02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:56.359 I love this. 2783 02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:58.720 Yeah, I think incredible crisis. 2784 02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:01.439 Could that is? That would be fun? 2785 02:04:01.520 --> 02:04:01.720 Yeah? 2786 02:04:01.800 --> 02:04:02.760 Yeah, yes, I would love that. 2787 02:04:03.319 --> 02:04:04.239 That hit pretty hard. 2788 02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:08.279 I mean I used I used beautiful Joe's an answer 2789 02:04:08.319 --> 02:04:09.239 for a lot of things. 2790 02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:11.199 Yeah, but you're not wrong, No, you're not. 2791 02:04:12.039 --> 02:04:14.520 And I just think it would it would it would be. 2792 02:04:14.479 --> 02:04:15.760 Great Pano three this time. 2793 02:04:15.800 --> 02:04:19.000 Instead, I don't and I'm not there with you. No, 2794 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:19.720 it's not good. 2795 02:04:20.520 --> 02:04:23.720 No, I want to be just in, you know, in 2796 02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:24.920 the spirit of charitability. 2797 02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:26.800 But yeah, beautiful Joe's much better. 2798 02:04:27.199 --> 02:04:27.960 It's so good. 2799 02:04:29.119 --> 02:04:33.319 All right, Well, thank you emailer. Next from uh who 2800 02:04:33.319 --> 02:04:34.439 do we have here? 2801 02:04:35.520 --> 02:04:35.800 Said? 2802 02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:37.560 Is video game streaming? 2803 02:04:37.680 --> 02:04:42.399 The latest spectator sport? Is video game podcasting? The new 2804 02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:45.039 sports tunk radio. I feel like this question is from 2805 02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:45.880 twenty years ago. 2806 02:04:46.199 --> 02:04:50.680 Yeah, yeah, I mean basically that's how it breaks down, Like, yeah, 2807 02:04:50.920 --> 02:04:51.640 that's how it goes. 2808 02:04:52.279 --> 02:04:57.560 I think I think a good you know, I want 2809 02:04:57.600 --> 02:05:00.800 to say that podcasting is so much it's also so 2810 02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:04.079 wide reaching and spreading. But it's way more popular than 2811 02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:08.199 sports talk radio. Oh you don't think you don't think 2812 02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:11.000 more people listen to apologists than no, No, you're right now, 2813 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:12.239 more people listen to podcasts. 2814 02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:15.000 Well, but we're talking about because like the podcast is 2815 02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:17.319 sports talk radio basically, right. 2816 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:22.479 So even if you're comparing those two sort of like slices, 2817 02:05:22.640 --> 02:05:24.000 I still think it's waiting. 2818 02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:29.439 AM radio was massively popular even up until like ten 2819 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:31.239 years ago. I don't know if any new kids are 2820 02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.319 coming in listening to that stuff in their cars or whatever, 2821 02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:35.520 but it is unlistenable. 2822 02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:38.039 Let me just tell it's rough stuff. I mean, especially 2823 02:05:38.279 --> 02:05:40.479 the right wing stuff is insane. How much it's still 2824 02:05:40.520 --> 02:05:42.479 on there, It's crazy. I love it. 2825 02:05:42.600 --> 02:05:45.359 Yeah, there's a local one here and you I think 2826 02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:49.600 they broadcast, they syndicate it, and they are insufferable. 2827 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:53.279 I would catch myself hate listening to Rush Limbos sometimes 2828 02:05:53.319 --> 02:05:56.159 because yeah, I have that station on for the the 2829 02:05:56.159 --> 02:05:58.640 Indians games back then, and like so it would just 2830 02:05:58.680 --> 02:05:59.840 be all want to start my car, and he would 2831 02:05:59.840 --> 02:06:02.359 just immediately start talking about something crazy, and I'm so 2832 02:06:02.439 --> 02:06:04.479 mad I couldn't stop listening. 2833 02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:06.920 Same when I was a delivery driver, I would hate 2834 02:06:06.960 --> 02:06:09.399 listen to a lot of right wing radio because it 2835 02:06:09.439 --> 02:06:10.560 was like, yeah, it was like, oh I get to 2836 02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:12.359 feel something at least and most of the most of 2837 02:06:12.359 --> 02:06:16.239 time it was blinding rage. I listened Toad at Glenn 2838 02:06:16.279 --> 02:06:18.840 Beck and it was like, Oh, I can tell you 2839 02:06:18.880 --> 02:06:21.880 all the tricks that guy does to win his arguments 2840 02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:24.520 against nobody because he's just talking to himself for four 2841 02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:25.960 hours to bring into the void. 2842 02:06:26.199 --> 02:06:30.960 Yes, we're on I AM radio because it can't penetrate 2843 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:31.359 your skin. 2844 02:06:35.159 --> 02:06:37.039 Are e sports still a thing? I feel like you 2845 02:06:37.039 --> 02:06:39.239 heard about esports for a long time, know you do? 2846 02:06:39.560 --> 02:06:41.199 You just don't hear like I feel like, from like 2847 02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:44.439 twenty ten to like twenty twenty, I felt like I 2848 02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:45.880 heard the word e sports and there was a lot 2849 02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:48.199 of money going into it. Yeah, I mean all the time. 2850 02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:50.039 So now I don't hear anyone talk about it. 2851 02:06:50.479 --> 02:06:52.960 Yeah, there was like this big rush and corporations were 2852 02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:55.359 very excited about it for a bit there, and there 2853 02:06:55.439 --> 02:06:58.479 was big investments in things like the Overwatch League, right, 2854 02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:02.000 and that didn't really workouts. Now that you still have, 2855 02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:04.319 you know, esports and a lot of it is you know, 2856 02:07:04.640 --> 02:07:06.960 a bit more grassroots, but there still are bigger ones 2857 02:07:07.039 --> 02:07:09.359 like you know, Evo is esports, right, is. 2858 02:07:09.279 --> 02:07:12.119 Like Doda is still selling out big Doda. 2859 02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:15.760 Think, I'm almost curious, like how many people are still 2860 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:17.039 going to see tattoo. 2861 02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:18.960 I bet it's a lot, but I bet it's down 2862 02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:21.880 from its peak. I mean it's they are still mold. 2863 02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:25.960 They're like the top I'd say five games, that's probably 2864 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:28.560 I guess Rocket League might be in that top. 2865 02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:33.239 Counter Strike is still globally massive esports, so there are 2866 02:07:33.239 --> 02:07:35.680 still they're still still huge, Dan, you might this might 2867 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:36.399 sound familiar. 2868 02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:40.000 Saudi Arabia has invested sports. 2869 02:07:40.239 --> 02:07:41.880 They are spending a lot of money these days. 2870 02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:46.199 It's they have a lot of money. Saudi Ramco the 2871 02:07:46.199 --> 02:07:48.800 most the richest corporation that's ever existed in the history 2872 02:07:48.840 --> 02:07:49.119 of the world. 2873 02:07:49.199 --> 02:07:54.520 Yes, more than Walmart. Yes, significantly more than Walmart. 2874 02:07:54.720 --> 02:07:58.520 I also think esports is still way behind here than 2875 02:07:58.560 --> 02:08:00.399 it is the rest of the world in terms of 2876 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:01.520 like attention paying. 2877 02:08:01.600 --> 02:08:05.039 Yeah, but like overall, though, like the investment, like Mike's right, 2878 02:08:05.119 --> 02:08:08.119 the investment from corporations into that space has cut off. 2879 02:08:08.159 --> 02:08:10.199 They don't necessarily believe that there is a huge way 2880 02:08:10.239 --> 02:08:12.119 to make a ton of money. That's why it kind 2881 02:08:12.119 --> 02:08:14.119 of just felled up Saudi Arabia to be I pick 2882 02:08:14.159 --> 02:08:15.640 it up as one of the mini cards. 2883 02:08:15.399 --> 02:08:17.119 They're going to play as they try to diversify their 2884 02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:23.680 economy or whatever they own EVO really yeah it to them. 2885 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:24.680 Yeah shit. 2886 02:08:26.039 --> 02:08:27.600 So they're trying to push in the comedy now too, 2887 02:08:27.640 --> 02:08:29.520 Like they're having a huge comedy festival with like a 2888 02:08:29.560 --> 02:08:31.520 ton of huge names that are there. 2889 02:08:31.600 --> 02:08:35.479 Yeah. Is it like Joe Warriors, the Saudi Arabia Government. 2890 02:08:36.439 --> 02:08:43.680 Yeah, fun uh okay, uh hey Dores, what is the 2891 02:08:43.720 --> 02:08:46.840 correct amount of phases for a final boss? 2892 02:08:47.039 --> 02:08:51.079 That's I think it's three? Yep, three is right now? Yeah, 2893 02:08:51.119 --> 02:08:53.960 I think three is pretty good with the like, man, 2894 02:08:54.000 --> 02:08:56.479 if you if you are real spicy, you can really 2895 02:08:56.520 --> 02:08:59.680 earn it, Like you know, Zecro has four and I'm like, 2896 02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:02.319 holy shit, Second Row. That's like a game that's it's 2897 02:09:02.319 --> 02:09:05.479 a game that earns four faces for its final boss. Right, 2898 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:07.920 even then it's you can argue it's kind of like 2899 02:09:08.199 --> 02:09:11.640 a one and a three in that case there, Yeah, 2900 02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:16.000 but three three phills important for sure. It's as what 2901 02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:17.159 you mess around with it though it can be a 2902 02:09:17.199 --> 02:09:22.600 little bit it can kind of ruin the exhilaration, like uh, 2903 02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:24.560 like there's a there's a boss in there, a couple 2904 02:09:24.560 --> 02:09:26.800 of bosses in Hollow Night where when I beat it, 2905 02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:29.800 instead of being excited, I'm actually holding my breath to 2906 02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:32.520 make sure the boss is actually dead, so that like 2907 02:09:32.520 --> 02:09:34.640 instead of like a big pop off, it's kind of 2908 02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:37.359 like a yeah, yes. 2909 02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:39.359 Okay, waiting for some bullshit to hurt me. 2910 02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:39.760 Yes. 2911 02:09:40.239 --> 02:09:42.319 Now, is there a distinction between like Silk Song does 2912 02:09:42.359 --> 02:09:44.199 it a lot where there's like three phases, but like 2913 02:09:44.279 --> 02:09:47.000 the boss itself doesn't look different or anything, and then 2914 02:09:47.039 --> 02:09:49.439 the one where it's like the boss like a force, 2915 02:09:49.640 --> 02:09:50.840 like a phase and a form. 2916 02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:53.640 Those are still phases, but you're right, there's a distinction 2917 02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:55.960 there for sure. Yeah. 2918 02:09:56.079 --> 02:09:58.760 There's like a Gannon Dwarf to Gannon is like, that's 2919 02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.039 not two phases of the fight, that's two forms a game. 2920 02:10:01.279 --> 02:10:04.720 Yeah, but it's a phase. Yeah. I think they're all phases, 2921 02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:08.880 but there is an extra distinction between there, for sure. 2922 02:10:09.119 --> 02:10:09.359 Yeah. 2923 02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:12.920 Yeah, well can doors are just like sixty four You 2924 02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:14.960 kind of fight him, then there's like a sequence. 2925 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:18.399 It's two very different that's just but sometimes it's in 2926 02:10:18.439 --> 02:10:20.840 the same one. It's like I just sprouted two heads 2927 02:10:20.840 --> 02:10:21.760 and now this is happening. 2928 02:10:21.920 --> 02:10:24.920 Like, yeah, even win Waker, because first you fight the 2929 02:10:24.920 --> 02:10:26.800 beast form, but then there's like a little wall you 2930 02:10:26.840 --> 02:10:28.399 can't to climb up the tower bit, and then you 2931 02:10:28.399 --> 02:10:32.760 fight just human gainer doors. It's I I love. I 2932 02:10:32.760 --> 02:10:34.600 don't know. I think it's actually very interesting the way 2933 02:10:34.640 --> 02:10:38.039 people design bosses and encounters like this. I think it's 2934 02:10:38.039 --> 02:10:41.359 such a distillation of game principle as I find super fast. 2935 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:43.760 Like Ari four the uh, the guy that looks like 2936 02:10:43.800 --> 02:10:46.960 me in the in the farmhouse or whatever, just walking 2937 02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:48.720 around being a tall weirdo, and all of a sudden 2938 02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:50.359 he's just like a spider man, Like I like that. 2939 02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:53.479 Yeah, that's great. Or even we're doing Crowsier because at 2940 02:10:53.520 --> 02:10:55.760 first it's just like dudes with knives and he becomes 2941 02:10:55.840 --> 02:10:59.840 more and more of a monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 2942 02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:02.960 do like that stuff. O Oh. I like a good 2943 02:11:03.119 --> 02:11:06.039 boss fight. Ah again, like those sports. But I quite 2944 02:11:06.119 --> 02:11:08.840 enjoyed Silk Song's final boss. I thought, I'm a very 2945 02:11:09.840 --> 02:11:10.600 very fun encounter. 2946 02:11:11.479 --> 02:11:15.399 All right, well, thank you emailer. Uh the correct answer, 2947 02:11:15.479 --> 02:11:18.760 Just so we're all keeping track keeping score here, it's three. 2948 02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:19.560 It's three. 2949 02:11:20.239 --> 02:11:22.840 Uh, all right, Travis and Fargo five parter here, So 2950 02:11:22.920 --> 02:11:25.319 let's just blow through these maybe. 2951 02:11:25.680 --> 02:11:27.680 Uh hey, animal lovers. 2952 02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:31.760 Number one, what's the weirdest thing on your bucket list? 2953 02:11:32.119 --> 02:11:32.359 Hmm. 2954 02:11:33.119 --> 02:11:34.800 I used to think I wanted to own a monkey 2955 02:11:35.119 --> 02:11:36.079 by the time I was fifty. 2956 02:11:36.079 --> 02:11:37.279 I don't think that's allowed. 2957 02:11:37.479 --> 02:11:39.760 No, I've seen several documentaries and stuff now and it's 2958 02:11:39.800 --> 02:11:41.680 not in the cards. It's just like not a good 2959 02:11:41.680 --> 02:11:42.800 idea for many reasons. 2960 02:11:43.079 --> 02:11:45.600 Yeah, what about raccoon, I'm gonna have a rack. 2961 02:11:45.680 --> 02:11:47.840 I think they're they're pretty cool. 2962 02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:50.920 Yeah, but they're like they will like like fuck up 2963 02:11:50.920 --> 02:11:52.439 your ship like the way an animal does. 2964 02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:55.119 Yeah, not like your bodily person, but they're like get 2965 02:11:55.119 --> 02:11:56.399 into your your cabinets and. 2966 02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:59.760 Stuff, right, But like they'll have like some sort of 2967 02:12:00.439 --> 02:12:03.159 understandable reason like oh, we're trying to get a bank 2968 02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:05.680 loan or whatever, you know what I mean? Like I 2969 02:12:05.800 --> 02:12:12.439 trust I trust raccoons more. Yes, right, yeah, go to 2970 02:12:12.439 --> 02:12:15.359 the next one. Yeah, okay, sorry for the buckle this 2971 02:12:15.479 --> 02:12:17.560 question number two. You know the trope easy to learn 2972 02:12:17.560 --> 02:12:20.159 difficult to master. Are there any video games that are 2973 02:12:20.199 --> 02:12:24.359 the opposite difficult to learn easy to master? Does that 2974 02:12:24.399 --> 02:12:25.039 even make sense? 2975 02:12:25.159 --> 02:12:26.399 I don't know if that makes any sense. 2976 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:28.079 I get it. There's I think a lot of rogue 2977 02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:30.359 lakes are kind of like that where once you once 2978 02:12:30.399 --> 02:12:32.479 you kind of understand it, you kind of grock it. 2979 02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:34.199 Then at that point getting the rest of the way 2980 02:12:34.279 --> 02:12:36.720 isn't too difficult. 2981 02:12:37.119 --> 02:12:40.399 Yeah, but I think that's probably like are you mastering 2982 02:12:40.439 --> 02:12:43.119 Spilunky unless you do like the very hard thing of 2983 02:12:43.159 --> 02:12:45.399 getting to oumec and stuff like that, and that's still 2984 02:12:45.840 --> 02:12:47.640 you know, it's execution. So I don't know. Yes, I 2985 02:12:47.680 --> 02:12:48.520 guess I know what you mean. 2986 02:12:48.640 --> 02:12:52.960 Yeah, this is uh, this question works for like almost 2987 02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:56.079 not video game things. Well maybe it does, like riding 2988 02:12:56.119 --> 02:12:59.520 a bike, right, Like learning to write a bike is 2989 02:12:59.640 --> 02:13:01.159 different cult to learn. 2990 02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:03.880 And then. 2991 02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:09.960 Literally never forget you literally never forget right, like h. 2992 02:13:15.359 --> 02:13:16.359 Was like riding a bike. 2993 02:13:16.720 --> 02:13:21.640 Yeah, totally. Also, I would argue things like a pinball 2994 02:13:21.880 --> 02:13:26.079 where like su, you try and nail this shot and 2995 02:13:26.119 --> 02:13:27.840 you're like, man, I can't hit the shot, But then 2996 02:13:27.920 --> 02:13:30.720 once you know how to time it, you can hit 2997 02:13:30.760 --> 02:13:35.399 that shot regularly. That's the best we're. 2998 02:13:35.279 --> 02:13:35.840 Going to do here. 2999 02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:38.199 I think number three, I want to give a special 3000 02:13:38.199 --> 02:13:40.239 shout out to Indiana Jones in the Great Circle A game. 3001 02:13:40.279 --> 02:13:41.399 I didn't like that much. 3002 02:13:41.439 --> 02:13:43.600 Good thing you're shouting it out, but it did something 3003 02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:46.199 better than most Triple A games these days. It made 3004 02:13:46.199 --> 02:13:51.479 the in game font easily readable from a living room's 3005 02:13:51.479 --> 02:13:54.600 distance away. What's the game you didn't necessarily love, but 3006 02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:56.520 I had a Santa feature you want to applaud. I 3007 02:13:56.520 --> 02:13:59.319 will also say, real quick, the font in Silent Hill 3008 02:13:59.479 --> 02:14:00.920 f awesome. 3009 02:14:02.319 --> 02:14:02.800 Good. 3010 02:14:03.119 --> 02:14:05.600 Yeah, but this is a I don't know if this 3011 02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:07.880 lands with anyone, this uh, this question. 3012 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:10.239 I'm trying to think, Yeah, it's a good. 3013 02:14:10.279 --> 02:14:11.800 I can make a lot of good games that have 3014 02:14:11.840 --> 02:14:13.439 a thing where it's like, oh, Prince of Persia, the 3015 02:14:14.039 --> 02:14:15.439 memories screenshot feature. 3016 02:14:15.479 --> 02:14:18.800 Yeah, okay, Yeah, so I didn't really get into Eternal 3017 02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:22.560 very much, but I did like when a wall of 3018 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.880 bullets came my way with like one hole that I 3019 02:14:24.920 --> 02:14:26.279 had to go through and it was like, oh, this 3020 02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:28.159 is my hole. That thing I liked. I like the 3021 02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:30.119 idea of a third person bullet hell. 3022 02:14:30.279 --> 02:14:31.319 This is my shot. 3023 02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:35.239 To make sure we're ear marking that you got that. 3024 02:14:35.920 --> 02:14:39.199 Okay, yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm sure there's something 3025 02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:41.439 I liked in Red Dead Redemption too, like you know, 3026 02:14:41.439 --> 02:14:42.640 gaming it and fully drive. 3027 02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:45.880 With but like, would you like come like Arthur? 3028 02:14:47.159 --> 02:14:49.560 Yeah, of course, I like the the well written character. 3029 02:14:49.560 --> 02:14:51.399 I never had any issues with that, but that doesn't 3030 02:14:51.399 --> 02:14:53.079 feel like it's in the spirit of the question. But 3031 02:14:53.479 --> 02:14:56.439 I like the horse's balls shrinking, the shrink in the cold. 3032 02:14:56.479 --> 02:14:59.159 That's good. Were they really I guess so, I don't know. 3033 02:14:59.199 --> 02:15:04.680 I never looked, but that's probably right. I think that. Yeah. 3034 02:15:05.479 --> 02:15:08.600 Uh, what song or sound do you hear and instantly 3035 02:15:08.640 --> 02:15:11.199 know you're in for a great time? Sack? 3036 02:15:12.680 --> 02:15:15.840 I think got like a good vocoder, the bung from 3037 02:15:15.880 --> 02:15:16.439 Taco Bell. 3038 02:15:17.079 --> 02:15:22.119 Yeah, that's my Xbox one X one mm hmm. 3039 02:15:23.359 --> 02:15:26.880 This is another tough one. Is there a hockey sound? 3040 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.199 What's the hockey? Is this hockey ice? 3041 02:15:30.880 --> 02:15:31.199 Yeah? 3042 02:15:31.199 --> 02:15:33.800 But like you know the there's like like dunt dunt 3043 02:15:33.840 --> 02:15:38.119 dan for me. It's for me. It's gonna be funny. 3044 02:15:38.159 --> 02:15:44.159 It's the smell like I just smell hockey like sweating pads. Yeah. 3045 02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:45.880 Yeah, like just when you walk into a rink, you 3046 02:15:45.920 --> 02:15:48.239 know what that smell is and you're like, I guess 3047 02:15:48.239 --> 02:15:49.000 I'm playing hockey? 3048 02:15:49.520 --> 02:15:50.600 Uh do? 3049 02:15:51.119 --> 02:15:52.960 I watched a lot of old wrestling because of dead 3050 02:15:53.000 --> 02:15:55.279 luck homework, And when you hear the glass shatter, it's like. 3051 02:15:55.279 --> 02:15:57.399 Well, I'm gonna like this second. You know, this is 3052 02:15:57.399 --> 02:15:58.199 just gonna be a good time. 3053 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:00.640 Yeah. 3054 02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:00.920 There. 3055 02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:06.199 I recently rewatched the pilot to pee Wee's Playhouse, and 3056 02:16:06.279 --> 02:16:11.800 there were like twelve sound effects sound cues that triggered 3057 02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:15.840 me from a really positive nostalgia point of view, and 3058 02:16:15.880 --> 02:16:18.840 I think, like that does a good job answering this. 3059 02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:20.239 I know this is kind of for me, but I 3060 02:16:20.359 --> 02:16:24.239 just recently rewatched the pilot to pee Wee's Funhouse or whatever. 3061 02:16:24.279 --> 02:16:29.279 That's a pretty great sentence. It was his playhouse, not 3062 02:16:29.359 --> 02:16:31.960 his fun house. Sure, Okay, you don't have time to 3063 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:34.680 watch a two hour long video about video games, but 3064 02:16:34.719 --> 02:16:38.280 you're just going back casually to see because I have a. 3065 02:16:38.239 --> 02:16:40.280 Ten year old who needed to be educated. 3066 02:16:41.520 --> 02:16:42.280 And we watched. 3067 02:16:44.120 --> 02:16:46.920 Sixty four on back our side with this, of. 3068 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:51.760 Course, because it's nothing but reasonable. Yes, honestly, I haven't 3069 02:16:52.120 --> 02:16:55.079 gone back and watched that. There's also an incredibly high 3070 02:16:55.159 --> 02:16:58.239 quality version on YouTube of Peewe's Playhouse, the first episode. 3071 02:16:58.319 --> 02:16:59.319 It's tremendous. 3072 02:17:00.079 --> 02:17:00.399 Uh. 3073 02:17:00.440 --> 02:17:04.040 Finally, Travis, did you uh from Travis? Did you hit 3074 02:17:04.120 --> 02:17:08.760 up any good yard sales this summer? I did not, 3075 02:17:09.079 --> 02:17:12.399 although I skipped an opportunity to do that. I do 3076 02:17:12.559 --> 02:17:14.079 like that stuff that is fun. 3077 02:17:14.200 --> 02:17:17.159 I noticed a flea market on Sunday. I never I 3078 02:17:17.159 --> 02:17:19.200 had never seen before, and I almost went in. I 3079 02:17:19.639 --> 02:17:21.319 think I'll hit it up next week. And I don't 3080 02:17:21.360 --> 02:17:22.479 usually go to garage sales. 3081 02:17:22.479 --> 02:17:24.959 I don't know. I don't like going to people's stuff. 3082 02:17:25.479 --> 02:17:27.840 It's a little weird and they're like they're there while 3083 02:17:27.840 --> 02:17:28.479 I'm doing it. 3084 02:17:28.920 --> 02:17:29.879 Yeah, I went to one. 3085 02:17:30.120 --> 02:17:32.600 I was just walking around the neighborhood last week and 3086 02:17:32.680 --> 02:17:34.479 I saw somebody was having a garage steal and just 3087 02:17:34.520 --> 02:17:36.040 walked in and it was just like an old couple 3088 02:17:36.159 --> 02:17:38.319 sitting out there in their lawn chairs, and it's like 3089 02:17:38.399 --> 02:17:40.719 I walked into the garage and it was that smell 3090 02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:44.000 that like instantly it was like, this is Grandma's basement, 3091 02:17:44.120 --> 02:17:44.879 the mothballs. 3092 02:17:45.120 --> 02:17:47.719 This is that Like what is that smile? Is it just? 3093 02:17:48.600 --> 02:17:49.360 Is it like it's. 3094 02:17:49.239 --> 02:17:51.680 Must but is it not moth the mothballs, like the 3095 02:17:51.840 --> 02:17:54.079 smell of like you put these balls down so the 3096 02:17:54.120 --> 02:17:56.120 moths don't eat the clothes and stuff like that. 3097 02:17:57.559 --> 02:18:00.319 I've never known anyone that's actually used a mothball. Everyone 3098 02:18:00.319 --> 02:18:01.319 always talks about. 3099 02:18:01.120 --> 02:18:03.680 Mostly old people, Yeah. 3100 02:18:03.840 --> 02:18:07.799 But other people. Yeah, I've had God, what did I 3101 02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:11.959 get delivered? It was a nice jacket from a video 3102 02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:13.879 game company. And I think that they must have had 3103 02:18:13.879 --> 02:18:15.680 it in storage, and I think they must have had 3104 02:18:15.719 --> 02:18:18.200 it mothballed so that moths wouldn't eat all their their 3105 02:18:18.319 --> 02:18:19.639 stored clothing. 3106 02:18:19.280 --> 02:18:20.000 And stuff like that. 3107 02:18:20.040 --> 02:18:22.520 And even modern day old people do mothballs. It's not 3108 02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:24.799 I think. 3109 02:18:23.959 --> 02:18:26.799 It's something that people just need to do. Some moths 3110 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:28.959 don't destroy their clothes, like yeah, it's a thing that 3111 02:18:29.079 --> 02:18:31.280 still happens, so you don't need to be old. But 3112 02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:33.680 old people have a lot of old stuff just sitting 3113 02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:36.319 around for a very long time, so they are especially. 3114 02:18:36.000 --> 02:18:36.840 Susceptible to it. 3115 02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.440 And this isn't like sure an old person idea, It's like. 3116 02:18:39.559 --> 02:18:41.840 Right, but there Chad is saying that there is an 3117 02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:45.559 old person's smell that which death. I just don't want 3118 02:18:45.559 --> 02:18:47.440 to think about it, you know, I don't want to 3119 02:18:48.440 --> 02:18:50.440 enough time in Florida, I don't need to think about it. 3120 02:18:52.719 --> 02:18:54.000 All right, Very. 3121 02:18:53.840 --> 02:18:57.879 Good, listen, we'll do maybe one. We'll do this one, 3122 02:18:57.920 --> 02:19:00.200 and then we've got a quiz that we can do 3123 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:01.200 and then we'll be hapy. 3124 02:19:02.079 --> 02:19:03.280 I got some super shats too. 3125 02:19:03.559 --> 02:19:09.280 Excellent excellent news. Patrick from Illinois, Hey, yo, duders, long time, 3126 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:11.239 first time before I get to my questions. Just want 3127 02:19:11.280 --> 02:19:12.799 to say how much I appreciate. 3128 02:19:12.399 --> 02:19:14.840 The work you all do. Thank you very much. 3129 02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:18.920 The BombCast has been a staple on my commutes for 3130 02:19:19.079 --> 02:19:23.440 over a decade, and I'm glad you are still going 3131 02:19:23.600 --> 02:19:28.399 strong anyways. In episode nine to eight, Sean mentioned playing 3132 02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:32.559 old games on his fancy new handheld with achievements is 3133 02:19:32.600 --> 02:19:36.719 an achievement set developer on retro Achievement. The name drop 3134 02:19:36.920 --> 02:19:41.559 not only made oh I'm sorry as an achievement set developer, 3135 02:19:41.719 --> 02:19:45.479 he's achievement on retro achievement. Yes, the name drop not 3136 02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.479 only made me excited, but it also made me wonder 3137 02:19:49.079 --> 02:19:51.479 do you all think achievements adds value to a game? 3138 02:19:51.559 --> 02:19:53.360 If so, what do you look for in a good 3139 02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:56.760 achievements set? Fun and interesting challenges, a reward for collecting 3140 02:19:56.799 --> 02:19:59.639 everything you can in a game, recognitions for grinding to 3141 02:19:59.760 --> 02:20:03.959 level ninety nine Final Fantasy nine? And finally, if you 3142 02:20:04.000 --> 02:20:06.959 could replay any game from your past with achievements, what 3143 02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:09.559 would you pick? Thank you, Patrick. 3144 02:20:10.040 --> 02:20:12.360 I think my favorites are the ones that, like you know, 3145 02:20:12.600 --> 02:20:15.319 give me a reason to continue playing a game I 3146 02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:17.479 like in a way I wouldn't normally play it. 3147 02:20:17.479 --> 02:20:18.559 That's you know, and it's. 3148 02:20:18.399 --> 02:20:20.879 Like I used to be, you know, a three sixty era, 3149 02:20:21.040 --> 02:20:22.840 just going for every achievement for every game and play 3150 02:20:22.840 --> 02:20:26.159 an avatar for the easy thousand achievements and all that stuff. Nowadays, 3151 02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:29.200 it's more like, Okay, I love Astrobot. I don't want 3152 02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:31.680 this to end. I'm going to get the platinum here 3153 02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:32.959 because I'm loving everything. 3154 02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:33.799 So just giving me. 3155 02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:36.559 An excuse to like, oh, go find this the least rag, 3156 02:20:36.719 --> 02:20:38.280 or play this one level in a certain way, or 3157 02:20:38.280 --> 02:20:41.360 don't use this weapon for this thing. You know, it's 3158 02:20:41.559 --> 02:20:43.479 just a way to extend my time with my favorite games. 3159 02:20:43.520 --> 02:20:45.920 Yeah, I mean, I still the only achievements I can 3160 02:20:45.959 --> 02:20:48.360 still remember really caring that much about gangs cited for 3161 02:20:48.479 --> 02:20:50.680 were cracked down once because I don't know, it's early, 3162 02:20:50.719 --> 02:20:53.719 and it was fine, you know, yeah jump off the 3163 02:20:53.719 --> 02:20:56.440 tallest building, even though I liked it there. Like now, 3164 02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:59.000 and I'm not much of an achievement person, but like, 3165 02:20:59.040 --> 02:21:01.760 I would rather just get one because I actually did 3166 02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:04.760 something difficult in a game, like you know, yeah, sure, 3167 02:21:04.799 --> 02:21:08.799 grind to level ninety nine obviously nine, I guess I 3168 02:21:08.799 --> 02:21:11.159 I kind of resent a little bit that they have 3169 02:21:11.200 --> 02:21:13.040 to design these things to make sure that people can 3170 02:21:13.280 --> 02:21:15.639 generally get them because so many people do like getting 3171 02:21:15.719 --> 02:21:20.360 platinums and whatnot that you almost have to balance around that. 3172 02:21:20.479 --> 02:21:22.799 And I'm like, ah, maybe you know, make it so 3173 02:21:22.879 --> 02:21:24.959 that some of them are really stupid difficult and if 3174 02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:26.239 I want to go for that, go for it, which 3175 02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:29.639 again I think the Platinum Hunters Sorry doctor Ryan Linaly 3176 02:21:30.120 --> 02:21:31.239 hate that opinion. 3177 02:21:31.440 --> 02:21:33.440 I like when they really fuck up with them, Like 3178 02:21:33.600 --> 02:21:35.840 this doesn't happen as much anymore. But like, was it 3179 02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:38.520 prey on three sixty that had a multiplayer achievement for 3180 02:21:38.600 --> 02:21:39.559 like doing a team and kill? 3181 02:21:39.879 --> 02:21:41.239 So what are you doing like that? 3182 02:21:41.319 --> 02:21:43.799 Everyone's just fuck like every match everyone's doing team kills 3183 02:21:43.840 --> 02:21:46.879 and stuff, right, Yeah, and then we learned ones. Yeah, 3184 02:21:46.920 --> 02:21:48.719 they were the ones that were like good in theory 3185 02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:51.959 where it was like the viral thing of like oh uh, 3186 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:55.280 you know, beat a developer at their own game or something, 3187 02:21:55.360 --> 02:21:57.840 or someone who has beaten that developer. Right, yeah, I 3188 02:21:57.959 --> 02:22:00.159 like that idea. Oh, it's going to be this rare thing. 3189 02:22:00.159 --> 02:22:02.000 But then it's like just over a certain amount of time, 3190 02:22:02.000 --> 02:22:02.799 everyone's gonna have that. 3191 02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:03.239 Yeah. 3192 02:22:03.360 --> 02:22:07.159 Yeah, it's difficult, right, I don't really know the best 3193 02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:09.520 way to go about it, for retro games, though, I. 3194 02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:10.479 Think it is great. 3195 02:22:10.680 --> 02:22:12.920 Yeah, ok, yeah, I think it's neat. And again retros, 3196 02:22:12.920 --> 02:22:15.159 I don't think you should make it too like weird, 3197 02:22:15.159 --> 02:22:18.079 like idle your character for ten minutes and song to Hedgehog. 3198 02:22:18.200 --> 02:22:20.559 You know, I don't know. I think you should generally 3199 02:22:20.680 --> 02:22:24.159 be tied to playing the game, maybe doing specific challenge 3200 02:22:24.200 --> 02:22:25.959 where it's like, give it was mega, man, I would 3201 02:22:26.000 --> 02:22:28.079 want an achievement if I beat the game Buster only 3202 02:22:28.159 --> 02:22:28.559 if that's. 3203 02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:31.840 Sure, right, Yeah, Resident ev One you know knife Run 3204 02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:32.520 stuff like that. 3205 02:22:32.639 --> 02:22:34.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly thinks or you know, just the 3206 02:22:34.840 --> 02:22:36.840 plasma cutter and dead space that kind of thing. 3207 02:22:37.399 --> 02:22:39.959 Yeah, this is why. Yeah, I'm with you guys where 3208 02:22:40.000 --> 02:22:42.879 it's like mostly not interested in achievements, But for retro games, 3209 02:22:42.920 --> 02:22:44.760 I've been a little a little bit more curious. 3210 02:22:44.799 --> 02:22:45.120 I've done. 3211 02:22:45.159 --> 02:22:47.000 I've signed up for retro achievements a bunch of times, 3212 02:22:47.000 --> 02:22:52.040 gotten some, but uh, retual achievements also has leader boards stuff. Yeah, 3213 02:22:52.079 --> 02:22:54.879 and that's I'm always way more interested in that. Give 3214 02:22:54.920 --> 02:22:57.399 me that ten times over time, because, like I said before, 3215 02:22:57.440 --> 02:22:59.120 that feels like a real achievement to me. That's like 3216 02:22:59.159 --> 02:23:03.159 beating everyone else playing this game. That's something so if 3217 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:05.280 combined those things, so I at least have. 3218 02:23:05.280 --> 02:23:08.120 The option to do leaderboards instead, that would be my choice. 3219 02:23:08.200 --> 02:23:10.280 Do they have a game here for what game? Would 3220 02:23:10.280 --> 02:23:11.520 you replay it from the. 3221 02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:13.799 Past with you can now? 3222 02:23:13.959 --> 02:23:17.280 You know, the only reason I haven't gotten more into 3223 02:23:17.319 --> 02:23:19.159 it is because, like with all the little handheld and 3224 02:23:19.159 --> 02:23:21.760 stuff I have, I do set up retro achievements when 3225 02:23:21.799 --> 02:23:24.280 it has the option, But because I'm playing a lot 3226 02:23:24.399 --> 02:23:27.079 of handheld if I'm like on a plane, sometimes I'm 3227 02:23:27.079 --> 02:23:28.920 not going to have my like and Bernick to the 3228 02:23:28.959 --> 02:23:30.920 plane Wi Fi, you know, So it's like, oh, I'm 3229 02:23:30.959 --> 02:23:32.719 gonna get further in the game, and then it's not 3230 02:23:32.760 --> 02:23:34.920 gonna sync that achievement. So it's like I never like 3231 02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:37.239 fully dove in, but like I like the idea of them. 3232 02:23:37.879 --> 02:23:43.600 Yeah, Eternal Darkness with achievements would have made that whole 3233 02:23:43.639 --> 02:23:44.559 experience a little better. 3234 02:23:44.719 --> 02:23:46.920 You could have ignored us while we were like goofing 3235 02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:49.079 on you. You could have just focused on the achievements. I 3236 02:23:49.079 --> 02:23:53.120 would have had something in my corner right now. 3237 02:23:53.280 --> 02:23:56.280 It does bring up that Megabank has leaderboards, and the 3238 02:23:56.319 --> 02:23:58.120 one I see on the main screen is always just 3239 02:23:58.159 --> 02:24:01.399 like number of kills, So it's just like, how much 3240 02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:02.440 of you played Megabox? 3241 02:24:02.520 --> 02:24:05.159 Yeah, yeah, I imagine, like I bet the people on 3242 02:24:05.200 --> 02:24:07.280 this top ten list are playing it right now and 3243 02:24:07.360 --> 02:24:09.399 they have been for like the last several days. 3244 02:24:09.639 --> 02:24:16.959 Yes, yes, all right, thank you Patrick. Final email is 3245 02:24:17.000 --> 02:24:20.000 going to be a quiz and it's from Josh and Georgia. 3246 02:24:20.479 --> 02:24:22.000 After this we'll get the super chats. We'll be on 3247 02:24:22.040 --> 02:24:25.520 you right, howdy duds. I was moving recently and found 3248 02:24:25.520 --> 02:24:29.600 some old game informers, and while flipping through them, I 3249 02:24:29.719 --> 02:24:33.079 found a top ten list of the best video game weapons. 3250 02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:35.680 And I know how much you fellas love quiz is. 3251 02:24:36.079 --> 02:24:37.920 I thought it'd be fun to see how many you 3252 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:38.520 can name. 3253 02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:39.799 FYI. 3254 02:24:39.879 --> 02:24:43.040 This is from issue one sixty nine, that's May of 3255 02:24:43.120 --> 02:24:47.000 the two thousand and seven with the GTA for cover story. 3256 02:24:47.040 --> 02:24:48.600 Holy shit master story. 3257 02:24:49.239 --> 02:24:51.600 Okay, so this is be before I was there, so 3258 02:24:51.600 --> 02:24:54.760 I don't have an advantage, right master definitely. 3259 02:24:54.440 --> 02:24:59.360 So there there are I have the key and I 3260 02:24:59.440 --> 02:25:01.920 deleted it from the run of show, so there's no cheating. 3261 02:25:03.479 --> 02:25:06.760 There are ten weapons and the Master Sword is not 3262 02:25:06.959 --> 02:25:07.479 one of them. 3263 02:25:07.559 --> 02:25:10.120 Okay, hey, turn off chat, turn off chat. 3264 02:25:10.120 --> 02:25:14.440 I want to I will cover chat. Do we get 3265 02:25:14.440 --> 02:25:15.319 so many strikes? Here. 3266 02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:17.319 You think maybe we just see if we can do it. 3267 02:25:18.840 --> 02:25:20.879 I mean, I guess, I mean I think three strikes 3268 02:25:20.879 --> 02:25:22.280 starting after the masters. 3269 02:25:22.360 --> 02:25:24.719 What what year is this from seven? 3270 02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:25.399 Okay? 3271 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:27.479 You think Whip from Castlevania. 3272 02:25:27.840 --> 02:25:30.840 I don't think they're gonna do Vampire Killer. Uh maybe 3273 02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:32.959 maybe vamped soul Edge. 3274 02:25:33.719 --> 02:25:35.520 No Masters not on that. 3275 02:25:36.520 --> 02:25:38.440 It's throwing me off that Master's sword is not one 3276 02:25:38.479 --> 02:25:38.760 of them. 3277 02:25:38.840 --> 02:25:43.959 Okay, wait a thousand or a shotgun super shotgun? I 3278 02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:48.680 think BFG. I also think Halo Pistol BFG from Doom 3279 02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:49.239 is on there. 3280 02:25:49.360 --> 02:25:51.520 Okay, okay, number two, that's number two. 3281 02:25:51.760 --> 02:25:54.879 Okay, strikes, Let's see if we can throw it out. 3282 02:25:54.959 --> 02:25:59.879 Okay, you got one out of Halo Pistol. Halo Pistol No, okay, killing, 3283 02:26:00.159 --> 02:26:01.959 I think you probably more gun based Golden gun from 3284 02:26:01.959 --> 02:26:05.200 gold and I. 3285 02:26:03.920 --> 02:26:06.600 No what r C P ninety from GoldenEye? 3286 02:26:07.479 --> 02:26:11.639 No, okay, what Energy sword from Halo? No? 3287 02:26:12.120 --> 02:26:13.200 Okay, whoa whoa? 3288 02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:13.520 Okay? 3289 02:26:13.799 --> 02:26:16.360 And then and the game span decades here. 3290 02:26:16.639 --> 02:26:20.840 The biggn sword from Akarina. No, let me think was 3291 02:26:20.879 --> 02:26:21.879 pac Man a weapon? 3292 02:26:22.200 --> 02:26:28.600 No half life, no gravity gun, gravity gun from number 3293 02:26:28.639 --> 02:26:32.760 one energy. They might just thrown the portal gun into 3294 02:26:32.840 --> 02:26:35.040 at this point seven seven? 3295 02:26:35.440 --> 02:26:41.040 Yeah, was out box right around it? Just say we're 3296 02:26:41.040 --> 02:26:44.399 not doing strikes. Portal gun No, the Lancer from Gears, 3297 02:26:44.600 --> 02:26:46.159 Yeah no. 3298 02:26:47.200 --> 02:26:51.239 Oh Hammer of Dawn from Gears. No, Red Gun from 3299 02:26:51.280 --> 02:26:53.399 Contra very good. 3300 02:26:54.959 --> 02:26:58.079 Yeah, is there any Mario like did they do anything 3301 02:26:58.079 --> 02:26:59.399 with fireball or anything like that? 3302 02:27:00.600 --> 02:27:03.760 There's a couple of goofs, but that's about What about 3303 02:27:03.760 --> 02:27:05.719 the Blades of Chaos? 3304 02:27:05.959 --> 02:27:10.239 Yes, the Chaos is number eighth. 3305 02:27:09.520 --> 02:27:11.920 The key Blade from Kingdom Heart. 3306 02:27:11.959 --> 02:27:16.719 Get out of here? What the devil Bringer the devil Board? 3307 02:27:16.920 --> 02:27:17.159 No? 3308 02:27:17.879 --> 02:27:18.680 Is that the right queen? 3309 02:27:18.920 --> 02:27:19.719 The Mega Buster? 3310 02:27:20.440 --> 02:27:20.680 No? 3311 02:27:20.959 --> 02:27:24.399 Does it say guns or weapons? Weapons? Weapons? 3312 02:27:24.680 --> 02:27:26.600 Okay, let's think about like melee, stuff. 3313 02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:29.520 Like cerebral bore what. 3314 02:27:30.040 --> 02:27:35.000 Okay, number seven there, number seven, that's that's one of 3315 02:27:35.079 --> 02:27:35.840 my favorite weapons. 3316 02:27:35.879 --> 02:27:37.639 It's it's incredible. It's one of the best ever. 3317 02:27:37.920 --> 02:27:42.120 Okay, you I can't believes to be clear, grub has 3318 02:27:42.120 --> 02:27:45.719 gotten I think full four. Actually no, I I I helped, 3319 02:27:45.719 --> 02:27:47.239 I helped get to gravity gun. 3320 02:27:47.559 --> 02:27:48.040 That's okay. 3321 02:27:48.440 --> 02:27:50.319 You said BFG. I thought you said bf G. I 3322 02:27:50.319 --> 02:27:50.959 did say BFG. 3323 02:27:51.120 --> 02:27:55.280 Yes, So you have four all you the rail gun. 3324 02:27:56.319 --> 02:28:00.840 There's only let's see one, two, three, four, five left? 3325 02:28:01.680 --> 02:28:03.399 They stupid or it's like someone's boots. 3326 02:28:03.520 --> 02:28:04.040 I don't think I have. 3327 02:28:04.719 --> 02:28:07.159 There's one real dumb one that you'll never get. 3328 02:28:07.680 --> 02:28:08.440 Give us that one. 3329 02:28:08.799 --> 02:28:14.520 That's the sheep from Ratchet and Cracked. Yeah, I mean 3330 02:28:14.920 --> 02:28:15.760 it was in a commercial. 3331 02:28:15.879 --> 02:28:16.040 Yeah. 3332 02:28:16.280 --> 02:28:18.120 Is there anything that's not a gun? Anything else that's 3333 02:28:18.159 --> 02:28:25.040 not a gun? Yes, shell from Mario Kart. No okay, 3334 02:28:25.840 --> 02:28:28.200 oh oh the Clouds Buster Sword. 3335 02:28:28.959 --> 02:28:30.639 No one is gonna piss you off. 3336 02:28:30.680 --> 02:28:33.000 One's gonna be like, that's really that. We don't have 3337 02:28:33.040 --> 02:28:38.360 the Buster Sword. We have the gun Blade, gun Blade. 3338 02:28:38.440 --> 02:28:41.159 No, who's the byeline I'm looking. 3339 02:28:41.200 --> 02:28:45.159 It doesn't say I see the skin, it doesn't smithy. 3340 02:28:45.520 --> 02:28:48.079 Yeah, fantasy weapons. 3341 02:28:48.360 --> 02:28:50.879 I'm going to assume it's Andrew Reiner. That's my assumption. 3342 02:28:51.559 --> 02:28:53.120 No final Fantasy. Sorry. 3343 02:28:54.440 --> 02:28:57.319 Uh, the kind of like lightsabers. 3344 02:28:56.840 --> 02:29:02.479 Yes, number four is just the vanilla lights I started picking. 3345 02:29:02.920 --> 02:29:09.159 I was like, oh, lightsaber number four, plastic sword, go 3346 02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:11.920 rules because we have lightsabers and best Vegan weapons, but 3347 02:29:11.959 --> 02:29:14.600 not the Master Sword and like, I mean my. 3348 02:29:14.680 --> 02:29:18.559 Energy sword from Halo instead of fucking exactly the thing 3349 02:29:18.600 --> 02:29:22.520 that's exclusive to video games, Mike. Number three is for you. 3350 02:29:23.200 --> 02:29:24.760 Number three is for me. 3351 02:29:25.600 --> 02:29:26.719 First sight and perfect dark. 3352 02:29:27.360 --> 02:29:31.200 Is it? Is it Dizzy related? No, it's okay, but 3353 02:29:31.319 --> 02:29:37.079 it's you related. It's Ohio related. But it's not Mega Man. Well, 3354 02:29:37.120 --> 02:29:40.079 maybe it is Mega Man. Maybe it is, Maybe it's not. Okay, 3355 02:29:40.440 --> 02:29:42.479 is it the Is it the metal plates for Mega 3356 02:29:42.520 --> 02:29:48.200 Man two? Now we're talking. It's not the Mega Buster. 3357 02:29:48.239 --> 02:29:50.079 It's gotta be battle plates. Okay, that's pretty good. 3358 02:29:50.079 --> 02:29:53.799 That's we're missing too here. Uh, Mike, you said rail 3359 02:29:53.840 --> 02:29:55.600 gun from Quake, right, I said row gun. 3360 02:29:55.600 --> 02:29:59.239 I did say nail gun. It's a different thing. Rail 3361 02:29:59.319 --> 02:30:02.040 gun is on real tournament right nail Okay? Wait? 3362 02:30:02.040 --> 02:30:04.319 Wait seven? What call of duty? 3363 02:30:04.719 --> 02:30:04.760 No? 3364 02:30:05.319 --> 02:30:05.639 Okay. 3365 02:30:06.760 --> 02:30:11.399 One of the game franchises that has the weapon was 3366 02:30:11.520 --> 02:30:14.559 mentioned already, and the other one is a franchise no 3367 02:30:14.600 --> 02:30:15.799 one has brought up yet. 3368 02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:18.920 Okay, franchise we brought up. 3369 02:30:19.559 --> 02:30:21.479 The other one that we haven't brought up. Has it 3370 02:30:21.799 --> 02:30:23.440 had a new entry in the last three years? 3371 02:30:25.520 --> 02:30:26.520 Uh? 3372 02:30:26.719 --> 02:30:28.760 Maybe just by a smidge? 3373 02:30:28.959 --> 02:30:32.159 Is it Halo? No? Okay, because we forget if we 3374 02:30:32.239 --> 02:30:33.600 even got a Halo one on there. 3375 02:30:34.280 --> 02:30:36.440 It's very timely, though, is it metal year? 3376 02:30:36.840 --> 02:30:42.000 No gear? No timely? Is it the nail with the. 3377 02:30:44.840 --> 02:30:46.799 Wrapped in thumbnails? What's that? 3378 02:30:47.040 --> 02:30:48.040 Resident Evil anything. 3379 02:30:48.239 --> 02:30:50.719 No. Shoot, I thought was for sure. I thought you 3380 02:30:50.799 --> 02:30:54.440 had nine. Yeah, it's not Final Fantasy. We know that 3381 02:30:56.479 --> 02:30:57.280 Timely isn't it. 3382 02:30:57.360 --> 02:30:59.120 Ardby Dark Anything or Golden Ny. 3383 02:30:59.399 --> 02:31:01.680 So I'll all right, you did say the name of 3384 02:31:01.719 --> 02:31:04.639 the game that you did reference already, So so number ten, 3385 02:31:04.760 --> 02:31:06.959 first laptop gun, laptop laptop gun. 3386 02:31:09.680 --> 02:31:13.000 Finally, number six, did you hurt yourself in? 3387 02:31:13.440 --> 02:31:16.000 I celebrated, and I brought my arm down and I 3388 02:31:16.040 --> 02:31:17.600 elbowed my teleprompter. 3389 02:31:19.159 --> 02:31:19.639 Got it? 3390 02:31:20.959 --> 02:31:24.719 Number six again? Franchise no one has mentioned, definitely a 3391 02:31:24.840 --> 02:31:28.520 Timely franchise this year. 3392 02:31:29.000 --> 02:31:31.799 Franchise this year, Master Hunter nope. 3393 02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:33.600 Prince of Persia nope. 3394 02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:35.079 Oh, it could have been the Dagger of Time. I 3395 02:31:35.079 --> 02:31:38.600 thought you're onto something there that would have actually been good. 3396 02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:41.760 Yeah, Steam recently. 3397 02:31:42.920 --> 02:31:43.399 It might be. 3398 02:31:43.440 --> 02:31:47.159 Underwhelming, but it uh, it is certainly a weapon. 3399 02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:49.520 That gear. 3400 02:31:50.159 --> 02:31:54.319 Knowing that that should now be Donkey Kong. 3401 02:31:54.600 --> 02:32:00.879 Nope, nope, I don't know what Donkey kg it the 3402 02:32:00.879 --> 02:32:03.719 Hedgehogs gun. No, it's number six on the list. 3403 02:32:04.040 --> 02:32:05.559 Number six on the list. 3404 02:32:05.440 --> 02:32:13.040 Which won't help you at all that Borderlands has mentioned 3405 02:32:13.079 --> 02:32:14.479 the franchise. 3406 02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.920 Big franchise was somehow missing out on Timely. 3407 02:32:18.159 --> 02:32:20.760 Okay, Okay, this franchise, did it have its peak in 3408 02:32:20.959 --> 02:32:23.200 like seven, you know, like three six of the era? 3409 02:32:25.639 --> 02:32:31.079 I maybe, yeah, maybe it's up for debate. I don't 3410 02:32:31.079 --> 02:32:33.719 think this game, this franchise is really is it like. 3411 02:32:33.680 --> 02:32:39.319 The wave shot from Metroid or something that is the franchise? Okay, 3412 02:32:39.319 --> 02:32:42.479 we got there, Bob. No, we didn't bring a Metroid. 3413 02:32:42.440 --> 02:32:44.479 I don't want to think a specific weapons. Yeah, like 3414 02:32:44.799 --> 02:32:50.239 wave beam, there's oh uh ice beam, charge charge beam, 3415 02:32:51.159 --> 02:32:56.360 just mis super super missiles. No, it is a certain 3416 02:32:56.479 --> 02:33:01.040 kind of beam, wave beams, plant energy beam, energy being 3417 02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:01.760 charge bean. 3418 02:33:02.319 --> 02:33:04.920 I feel like what the charge beam is called, but 3419 02:33:05.079 --> 02:33:06.639 they're using a different descriptor here. 3420 02:33:08.520 --> 02:33:15.159 You remember what it's called type the hyper beam you get, 3421 02:33:15.399 --> 02:33:17.280 that's the one you get like at the end of 3422 02:33:17.280 --> 02:33:17.520 the game. 3423 02:33:17.920 --> 02:33:20.479 Oh sure, one off. 3424 02:33:20.799 --> 02:33:23.600 That's a lot as much as I love Metroid having that, 3425 02:33:23.639 --> 02:33:25.159 but not the Master Sword. 3426 02:33:25.479 --> 02:33:29.040 Hey, a lot of problems with this list. 3427 02:33:28.719 --> 02:33:32.319 A lot of problems actually fixed this list. Yeah, not 3428 02:33:32.479 --> 02:33:32.799 a bit. 3429 02:33:33.479 --> 02:33:34.479 But thank you, Josh. 3430 02:33:34.479 --> 02:33:38.440 What's fun though, Mike Manati, let's put it to you 3431 02:33:38.520 --> 02:33:40.159 for some super chats. 3432 02:33:40.440 --> 02:33:44.040 All right, uh says the US economy is fucked. To 3433 02:33:44.079 --> 02:33:46.879 save money where you can, Mike This is about on 3434 02:33:46.920 --> 02:33:50.799 your dad's phone, right right. That was forever. Ago can 3435 02:33:50.879 --> 02:33:53.760 remember a while Ago was from Tyrant and while Dan 3436 02:33:53.920 --> 02:33:57.559 was dog sitting and told Grub dog sitting multiple dogs 3437 02:33:57.600 --> 02:33:59.799 is like being a real parent. Grub agreed, I can't 3438 02:34:00.120 --> 02:34:02.399 give him jerff help. 3439 02:34:02.680 --> 02:34:07.719 I said that, like, you know, it's on the same spectrum. 3440 02:34:08.000 --> 02:34:10.600 We had five dogs. One of them was elderly and 3441 02:34:10.639 --> 02:34:14.159 shitting everywhere. Yeah, I mean, same thing, the same. 3442 02:34:14.280 --> 02:34:15.719 I definitely didn't say it was the same you said 3443 02:34:15.719 --> 02:34:17.760 it was like, because when he said that, it made 3444 02:34:17.799 --> 02:34:18.520 me really. 3445 02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:19.760 Mad just now, and I knew that's how I would 3446 02:34:19.760 --> 02:34:20.200 have felt in. 3447 02:34:20.239 --> 02:34:23.319 You guys real quick, I was playing with nail clippers 3448 02:34:23.360 --> 02:34:25.399 and I pinched myself and made myself bleed in the 3449 02:34:25.440 --> 02:34:27.799 last ten ten seconds. Cool. 3450 02:34:27.639 --> 02:34:31.799 So yeah, no sympathy. You get no SymPy for me, Yeah. 3451 02:34:31.959 --> 02:34:35.559 Because you gave Dan a pass about that insane statement. 3452 02:34:35.639 --> 02:34:38.719 This is what again, the God that doesn't exist did 3453 02:34:38.760 --> 02:34:39.000 to you. 3454 02:34:39.159 --> 02:34:45.280 I've either got next up is from cool stuff boy. 3455 02:34:45.280 --> 02:34:47.639 It's the way you're talking about Backlar. When is Dan 3456 02:34:47.719 --> 02:34:50.920 going to do that photoshoot with Backlar's leather WWE jacket 3457 02:34:50.920 --> 02:34:53.239 that was promised on the Beast cast in twenty eighteen. 3458 02:34:53.639 --> 02:34:56.319 The true believers are still waiting Backlar. 3459 02:34:56.399 --> 02:34:58.159 I think the thing was that you were going to 3460 02:34:58.200 --> 02:34:59.600 look up a place for me to go, and I 3461 02:34:59.600 --> 02:35:00.840 was like, all right, tell me where to be and 3462 02:35:00.879 --> 02:35:01.719 when I'll do it. 3463 02:35:01.840 --> 02:35:08.200 And that stands glamour shots. Yeah, the year some mall 3464 02:35:08.319 --> 02:35:09.799 glamour shots with that thing. 3465 02:35:10.200 --> 02:35:11.520 You tell me if I need to bring it on 3466 02:35:11.559 --> 02:35:12.280 any trips. 3467 02:35:12.440 --> 02:35:15.680 I remember I put it on one night to go 3468 02:35:15.799 --> 02:35:17.639 out and I didn't even make it. 3469 02:35:17.680 --> 02:35:19.319 Out the door. Before I took it off. 3470 02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:22.040 I was just like, I can't do this. I can't 3471 02:35:22.079 --> 02:35:22.440 do this. 3472 02:35:23.120 --> 02:35:24.360 All right, going, we got any more? 3473 02:35:24.399 --> 02:35:24.559 Mike? 3474 02:35:24.639 --> 02:35:27.879 Want more here from Ricky b at least, I say 3475 02:35:27.920 --> 02:35:29.879 right now, I'm way behind. Just listen to the cell 3476 02:35:29.879 --> 02:35:33.440 phone saga. Are we sure Mike isn't the one breaking 3477 02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:37.200 all of the mugs? Ooh? You know what that tracks? 3478 02:35:37.440 --> 02:35:37.520 Now? 3479 02:35:37.680 --> 02:35:39.520 I've not seen a single mug. You know, its not 3480 02:35:39.600 --> 02:35:41.879 like the mugs are here everyone. I'm not shipping them 3481 02:35:41.920 --> 02:35:47.239 from my house if we did, ye gage. 3482 02:35:46.920 --> 02:35:49.479 Right, that super chat implies that they are just like 3483 02:35:49.680 --> 02:35:53.159 loosely like jumped into your bathtub. 3484 02:35:56.200 --> 02:36:00.559 And were grandfathered. And I didn't want anything to do 3485 02:36:00.639 --> 02:36:01.200 with that. 3486 02:36:01.200 --> 02:36:03.239 Every time an order comes in you just sort of 3487 02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:05.840 like dig your hand into the bathtub, pull out a mug, 3488 02:36:05.879 --> 02:36:08.879 and the box it goes. 3489 02:36:08.399 --> 02:36:10.120 Exactly it's off the dirty floor. 3490 02:36:10.639 --> 02:36:11.200 Oh god. 3491 02:36:11.239 --> 02:36:13.399 All right, Well, thank you everyone for the super chats, 3492 02:36:13.399 --> 02:36:15.360 Thank you for the support. Giant bomb dot com. Slash 3493 02:36:15.479 --> 02:36:18.200 Join is how you can support us by subscribing. That 3494 02:36:18.239 --> 02:36:21.440 would mean so very much. What do we got going 3495 02:36:21.479 --> 02:36:24.280 on the rest of this week? Well, we've got game 3496 02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:28.280 mess every morning as you come to expect tomorrow. Blight 3497 02:36:28.360 --> 02:36:30.040 Club continues. 3498 02:36:29.799 --> 02:36:33.040 Right walking over to State to Play Tomorrow. 3499 02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:35.440 Stay to Play is gonna be tomorrow as well. 3500 02:36:35.719 --> 02:36:39.920 We've got a Sonic Racing Crossworlds GB plays. On Thursday. 3501 02:36:40.000 --> 02:36:43.040 The dump truck will be pulling into your cul de Sac. 3502 02:36:43.440 --> 02:36:47.920 We're gonna be doing a premium Discord town Hall meeting, 3503 02:36:48.000 --> 02:36:51.159 so make sure you pop in for that. That's one 3504 02:36:51.200 --> 02:36:53.120 pm Pacific on Thursday. 3505 02:36:53.959 --> 02:36:54.920 Upf will be a. 3506 02:36:55.360 --> 02:36:58.600 Baby Steps relay race versus kind of funny I guess 3507 02:36:58.760 --> 02:37:03.040 snorts and town all before some peah. I mean, look, 3508 02:37:03.079 --> 02:37:08.040 I'm not a betting man, but track records being considered, 3509 02:37:08.520 --> 02:37:11.600 what is kind of funny like plus four thousand. 3510 02:37:11.280 --> 02:37:12.920 On this Well, here's the thing like I you know, 3511 02:37:12.959 --> 02:37:14.719 I say this as a bit a lot where it's 3512 02:37:14.719 --> 02:37:16.239 like we're undefeated or I'm undefeated. 3513 02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:19.120 No, I think are we actually undefeated against kind of funny. 3514 02:37:18.959 --> 02:37:22.879 Yes, we'd lost like around, We've never lost a competition, right. 3515 02:37:22.879 --> 02:37:24.879 Yeah, yeah, at the end of the stream, we've always 3516 02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:25.399 been the winners. 3517 02:37:25.639 --> 02:37:26.159 That is right. 3518 02:37:26.399 --> 02:37:29.879 Yeah, So I take it back plus plus ten thousand. Okay, 3519 02:37:29.920 --> 02:37:33.360 it's just like come on and then four pm Pacific 3520 02:37:33.399 --> 02:37:37.680 on Friday, Haites two through the Night. Very exciting stuff. 3521 02:37:37.680 --> 02:37:40.639 Also quick looks. We'll supposed to record a Silent hill 3522 02:37:40.719 --> 02:37:43.559 f today. Jan and I hopefully his power returns soon 3523 02:37:43.600 --> 02:37:44.040 and we'll. 3524 02:37:43.879 --> 02:37:46.399 See recorded a Hades one with him today. We'll see 3525 02:37:46.399 --> 02:37:46.639 how that. 3526 02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:47.600 Goes, we goes. 3527 02:37:47.639 --> 02:37:49.360 We'll still try and knock him out this week. If 3528 02:37:49.799 --> 02:37:53.079 the power outages can't happen today. 3529 02:37:52.959 --> 02:37:53.879 That's gonna do it. 3530 02:37:54.479 --> 02:37:55.120 Folks. 3531 02:37:55.559 --> 02:37:57.479 Thank you so very much for tuning into the Giant 3532 02:37:57.479 --> 02:38:01.040 Bomb guest. Thank you Jan, thank you Dan, thank you Grub, 3533 02:38:01.200 --> 02:38:03.319 thank you Minati, thank you for everyone super chatting and 3534 02:38:03.399 --> 02:38:06.159 watching along live or after the fact. We'll be back 3535 02:38:06.159 --> 02:38:08.159 with a brand new episode next week. I can't do 3536 02:38:08.319 --> 02:38:12.079 Jan's outro he he hits an octave I'm incapable of doing. 3537 02:38:12.600 --> 02:38:17.120 If anyone else wants to try it up, the goodbye, 3538 02:38:17.879 --> 02:38:20.520 do the goodbye, good bye, goodbye. 3539 02:38:20.600 --> 02:38:22.120 Try it out, Mike, goodbye. 3540 02:38:25.840 --> 02:38:28.479 All right for the audio, everybody good Na