Speaker 1: You're watching Chewing the Cud. We've missed Kinsman and like
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Speaker 2: I nearly came in my short shorts. Oh hello, welcome
Speaker 2: to Chewing the Cud.
Speaker 1: What is it you've got on your top?
Speaker 2: Well, you know where. We're going to be speaking to
Speaker 2: Jordan later. Last time we saw him he was a
Speaker 2: bit into D and D. I thought i'd wear this.
Speaker 1: For him, right, Not that kind of dungeon.
Speaker 2: No, no dungeons and dragons, nothing salacious or saucy. I
Speaker 2: don't do that sort of thing because I'm a good boy,
Speaker 2: because no one will deal with you. What have you
Speaker 2: got for us today, Mike.
Speaker 1: Well, today I have a story about a mouse, well
Speaker 1: actually several and then we're going to be speaking to
Speaker 1: Jordan Charles about his latest project in Spotlight.
Speaker 2: We even have a game to play in our Game
Speaker 2: of the Week. But on screen now you will see
Speaker 2: our social media contact it Foe. Just look for at
Speaker 2: the cud TV.
Speaker 1: And as names of people who have dropped a lig
Speaker 1: all on the bottom of the screen. We go over
Speaker 1: to Granddad and the Shovis.
Speaker 2: We're going to start off with a bit of a
Speaker 2: grim subject. Have you ever had homophobic abuse? Shouted at
Speaker 2: you in the street. Did you got scouse then street?
Speaker 1: I have. Yes, It's horrible, isn't it. It's not pleasant,
Speaker 1: it's not fun, it's not delightful.
Speaker 2: No, Well, there's been a bit of abuse that's happened
Speaker 2: with a celebrity from Hollyoaks.
Speaker 1: Okay, using the word celebrity loosely there.
Speaker 2: A little bit. But they were out with one of
Speaker 2: their colleagues from this show who they work on the
Speaker 2: same show together. They've become really really good friends. It's
Speaker 2: Kieran Richardson, who plays Stee Hay and his best friend
Speaker 2: Georgi Porter I think I'm pronouncing that proptly, who played
Speaker 2: Theresa McQueen, And they were chatting on a podcast recently
Speaker 2: and telling this story basically about when they were trying
Speaker 2: to get a taxi and yeah, just suddenly got people
Speaker 2: hurling abuse at them. And even if you're the most
Speaker 2: bravest or the well built person, it takes you aback.
Speaker 2: It takes you right back to school when you're getting
Speaker 2: bullied and everything like that, and it does shock you.
Speaker 2: And then another point you got a bit brave and
Speaker 2: tried to shout back at them. They backed off and
Speaker 2: then started again. You know how those situations are. We've
Speaker 2: all experienced it and it's absolutely horrible. But his friend, Georgie,
Speaker 2: she was reflecting on it and she gave them hell
Speaker 2: and she actually, because we live in a modern age,
Speaker 2: recorded them clever girl. She said, that's my best friend.
Speaker 2: And anyone who starts with my best friend, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm having you. I don't know what she sounds like,
Speaker 2: but I'm going with this voice. People knew who it was,
Speaker 2: so I don't so I think that they actually got
Speaker 2: fired from work, yes, but it was just a massive
Speaker 2: shock that that kind of thing still happens. You wouldn't
Speaker 2: want it to happen to anyone, especially not Kieran, who
Speaker 2: is the best man in the world. Ah yeah, I thought,
Speaker 2: that's really kind and good ally shit and yeah, it
Speaker 2: is crazy that that stuff still happens in the world,
Speaker 2: but it does. And yeah, good for standing up for yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we need more people standing
Speaker 1: up for each other as well. So I know I've
Speaker 1: witnessed people early homophobic abuse and I have gone, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put myself in danger, and you do get that
Speaker 1: moment and you've just got to go, no, go, for
Speaker 1: it exactly. They do back down as soon as you
Speaker 1: start giving it back to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these are just scared in the end, It's true.
Speaker 2: Moving on to something a little bit more.
Speaker 1: He had his nipples out in that picture. He did
Speaker 1: have his nipples out of that picture. I had a
Speaker 1: friend who was in Hollyoaks once. He was only in
Speaker 1: it for like three episodes as a policeman. All right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He did a very good song afterwards called whatever
Speaker 2: Happened to Eddie? Check it out on YouTube. Shay Watsonello?
Speaker 2: How do you do?
Speaker 1: I was in Hollyoaks once?
Speaker 2: Were you so back in?
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I was about to say how
Speaker 1: old it was then? Back when I was in school
Speaker 1: in Chester. It was when they filmed Hollyoaks in Chester.
Speaker 1: Actually actually was in Chester, and they've Chess has Got
Speaker 1: the Rose, which is like two roses shops like shops.
Speaker 1: And I was out there eating a Sayer's sassage roll,
Speaker 1: which was my age as well, because I'll says anymore
Speaker 1: in a sausage roll, and the camera panned past me,
Speaker 1: and then six weeks later I got clip around there
Speaker 1: from your mother going saw you and Hollyoaks go to school.
Speaker 2: At you in your sausage role. I was a fag.
Speaker 2: It had three anyway, moving on to something a little
Speaker 2: bit more cheery.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hot Stopper is coming back.
Speaker 2: Yay, we're all big fans. Yeah yeah, so season three
Speaker 2: is coming. It's not going to be until October, but
Speaker 2: because we're all good fans and we were excited about it,
Speaker 2: people are already speculating about what's going to happen and
Speaker 2: who might be in it. Now there is speculation that
Speaker 2: there is certain people are going to be cast in
Speaker 2: the show, and there's been a series of images circling
Speaker 2: around showing Jonathan Bailey of Bridgeton.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice. So these series of images show him dressed
Speaker 2: very similar to a character in the graphic novels called
Speaker 2: Jack Maddox. In fact, one of those pictures shows him
Speaker 2: with a book that is written by Jack Maddox, the character.
Speaker 2: There's been no official or unofficial casting news, but the
Speaker 2: pictures were taken down rather sharpish, so it's a bit suggestive.
Speaker 2: And he's a clear ally of the show and of
Speaker 2: the culture and stuff. Well not an ally, he actually
Speaker 2: one of us. Well, I'm very very much looking forward
Speaker 2: to it and I'm sure in the many months until
Speaker 2: October there's going to be much much more speculation as
Speaker 2: we all get overly excited about its return. Now you
Speaker 2: are looking for a little bit more news is less
Speaker 2: about show biz. It's more about something that's very very
Speaker 2: important and also very very funny. So, in a desperate
Speaker 2: attempt to stay relevant, this muppet has been returning. Do
Speaker 2: you remember Liz Truss.
Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of serving premise that short is short.
Speaker 2: Yes, not only satisfied with being a worst prime minister
Speaker 2: in history, which is some going after Boris, she's come
Speaker 2: back sponsoring a bill. I'm going to read this out
Speaker 2: these please. Oh it's so awful. She's sponsoring a bill
Speaker 2: called the Health and Equalities Act, and she's well, she
Speaker 2: says it would define sex in law as biological and
Speaker 2: end the and this is the quote absurd and dangerous
Speaker 2: situation where biological males self defining as females can access
Speaker 2: girls and women's toilets and so on, as well as
Speaker 2: sports competitions. Yeah she can. So here's the funny bit.
Speaker 2: Though she has been frustrated in this, and it's very
Speaker 2: very funny how she's been frustrating. It never got heard
Speaker 2: this bill because of something called filibustering.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing of procrastination on an epic scale.
Speaker 2: It so what they did, basically, Parliament was debating another
Speaker 2: act beforehand, or another subject beforehand, called animal welfare, and
Speaker 2: they just delayed her Bonker's bill several nps. Actually, it
Speaker 2: has to be said both Tory and Labor just kept
Speaker 2: the debate going so she couldn't talk. And they did
Speaker 2: this by talking about the names of ferrets. Yep. So
Speaker 2: the MPs in question are Maria Eagle, Sarah Champion, Selaine Saxby,
Speaker 2: and Samantha Dixon. All hats off to you, ladies. Champion,
Speaker 2: this is how the conversation actually went. I've watched it.
Speaker 2: It's not in real time. It's a lot exact quotes,
Speaker 2: but this is how it went. Champion said, I'm interested
Speaker 2: that my right honorable friend is keenly mentioning ferrets at
Speaker 2: every opportunity that she can in this debate. So let
Speaker 2: me just put it on record that my brother had
Speaker 2: a ferret called Oscar. Then chips in, my honorable friend
Speaker 2: now has that on record. I do not really know
Speaker 2: what else to say about that, except that I'm sure
Speaker 2: Oscar brought her brother a great joy. Has the right
Speaker 2: Honorable Member of North Devon ever owned a ferret? And
Speaker 2: if so, what was its name? We go on Saxby
Speaker 2: then chips in. This is an excellent intervention. I will
Speaker 2: come to ferrets, but unfortunately I have not had the
Speaker 2: pleasure of having one at home myself. Then they move
Speaker 2: off ferrets unfortunately and their nomenclature. They then go on
Speaker 2: into Coronation Street. Dixon chips up, it's my honorable friend.
Speaker 2: Is my honorable friend? Aware of a recent Coronation Street
Speaker 2: storyline on precisely this issue, not Erretz the animal welfare.
Speaker 2: It involved an indomitable Evelyn, who's of course played by
Speaker 2: Maureen Lipmann, and cover the issues around puppy farming. It
Speaker 2: was a strong and educational storyline. Yeah, it's nice to
Speaker 2: see that there are some MPs who are not lying,
Speaker 2: incompetent and im moral scum with no agenda other than
Speaker 2: their own self aggrandizement. I don't know who I'm referring
Speaker 2: to their trusts, but yes, sadly, philibustering works both ways.
Speaker 2: And there was another bill being discussed in March that
Speaker 2: was going to ban conversion therapy and they did the
Speaker 2: same thing the other way around, so it never really
Speaker 2: got heard. So the ferrets are very very funny. But
Speaker 2: it'd be good if Parliament just got on with the
Speaker 2: job and stopped horrible bills going ever through and stopped
Speaker 2: pretty sensible bills from actually being heard. And that's the
Speaker 2: show biz's that.
Speaker 1: I can't really say anything funny on this one other
Speaker 1: than Liz trusted.
Speaker 2: Well stick around. Is it's Mike in the Buzz. You're
Speaker 2: watching during the card with mist and Mike. Now, let's
Speaker 2: see what he didn't put into his private browsing as
Speaker 2: it's Mike and the Buzz.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Australia?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, okay, because when you're going to Australia, I have
Speaker 1: big sign of saying you can't bring anything like fruits
Speaker 1: or vegetables or anything. It's very very strict on their
Speaker 1: border control. Do you know why that is?
Speaker 2: Because it's a completely different environment and you don't want
Speaker 2: to introduce foreign things because they have a problem with ants.
Speaker 1: They do very aggressive ant problem, very aggressive ants, ants,
Speaker 1: very ass and the reason is because for things like this, Right,
Speaker 1: there's an island in Antarctica. Right, two hundred years ago
Speaker 1: someone introduced a mouse that was predic. Now they have
Speaker 1: over a million mice on this island in Antarctica, just
Speaker 1: outside of Antarctica. Them because of global warming, these mice
Speaker 1: have been prolific, rampant mice, rampant mice, right, so much
Speaker 1: that now the mice are eating birds because they've got
Speaker 1: no other food left. So these mice have gone rampant
Speaker 1: eating birds. Oh how hot like birds are, big seagulls
Speaker 1: and stuff. Mice ganging up and attacking them. Cute little fairy.
Speaker 1: Oh look how cute the little mouse is killer teeth right,
Speaker 1: over a million on the island, right. So they thought
Speaker 1: of how they're going to get rid of these mice
Speaker 1: and kill them off. They're going to use helicopters.
Speaker 2: Didn't they think a cat might be a good IDEA very.
Speaker 1: Hungry cat, very million mice.
Speaker 2: Well they get one from Warner Brothers with the looney chews,
Speaker 2: and imagine and really cat, yes, to get rid of
Speaker 2: these hundreds of these million mice.
Speaker 1: And you know what, they using helicopters that are dropping
Speaker 1: rat poison all over the islands.
Speaker 2: What's the rat poison going to do to the birds?
Speaker 1: Going to kill the mice?
Speaker 2: It's still poison if one of the.
Speaker 1: Birds look then dead. This is the plan because they've
Speaker 1: decided that they need to make sure that there's no
Speaker 1: mice alive because if even one remains, they're going to
Speaker 1: have this problem again.
Speaker 2: So they're just basically going to nuke it from all
Speaker 2: bit like their aliens.
Speaker 1: Yes, with rat poison, but I don't think that's gonna
Speaker 1: work because they're.
Speaker 2: Mice, not rats. Well yeah, Roland the Ravager.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one of those things that's a warning about
Speaker 1: global warming because up until like five ten years ago,
Speaker 1: there weren't that many mice.
Speaker 2: They were kind of I was going to say fantastic.
Speaker 2: It was a bit chili chili. I would have thought
Speaker 2: little little creature like that wouldn't survive very long.
Speaker 1: They do, okay, but there's not many of them. It's
Speaker 1: not a lot of food. So now it's warmed up
Speaker 1: a bit, they can breed more and rap food to
Speaker 1: an out in birds.
Speaker 2: That's actually quite like animals. For animals, they're gonna eat
Speaker 2: each other. It's the circle of life.
Speaker 1: It moves us all.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to think so we'd have to pay royalties,
Speaker 2: but we thankful. Yeah, there's something about that that just
Speaker 2: seems a little bit disjointed and natural to me.
Speaker 1: It's the mice eating the birds that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit weird because we've.
Speaker 1: Also hitchcocks and the birds been expected. But moving on.
Speaker 1: Do you have a middle name now? No, missed Moonscape.
Speaker 2: No. Some people say ickles, mister gules. Okay, I have
Speaker 2: no idea why. But there's a lot of different people
Speaker 2: called me mysticals over the years. But no, no middle name.
Speaker 1: This is not a bit odd enough. I don't need enough.
Speaker 1: Where they calling you ball bagging, you just misheard.
Speaker 2: Back to homophobic abuse being shouted at me in the street.
Speaker 2: They're just calling the name, oh, ball bag.
Speaker 1: Abusive.
Speaker 2: You don't enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It's a woman called Rihanna all right who has changed
Speaker 1: her middle name based on something she loves. Okay, so
Speaker 1: she is now called Rihanna Marleybourne, as in after the
Speaker 1: station in London.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant the fags.
Speaker 1: So there she is, all right. She's changed her name legally.
Speaker 1: The reason why is because she's worked in the railways
Speaker 1: in London for twenty years and it's her favorite station.
Speaker 2: So much.
Speaker 1: It's not a big station, this is Derek quote, it's
Speaker 1: not a big station, but it has a big soul.
Speaker 2: So I thought people who had trained spotters are massive nerds.
Speaker 1: She's not a trainspotter exactly. It's about the station itself exactly.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's higher on the nerds.
Speaker 1: She considers it her home away from home, right, And
Speaker 1: she said, unlike other train stations in London, it has
Speaker 1: a warm and personal touch.
Speaker 2: Well, who am I to judge if it makes her happy.
Speaker 2: She's not harming anyone. Is she bonkers?
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, she was going to change her
Speaker 1: first name till her daughter said no, Mom, just no.
Speaker 2: What was she going to change her first name too?
Speaker 1: She's going to lose her actual first name and change
Speaker 1: it to the name of the station.
Speaker 2: Let's just change it all Agat became Mary Lebon. Every Labon,
Speaker 2: Mary Lebon, Simon Labon, Yeah, but Mary yeah, Simon Lobon, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mary Lebon's.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that don't getting the reference of
Speaker 1: Simon Labon.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she's harming anyone, and she should
Speaker 2: fill her boots and live happily as whoever and however
Speaker 2: she wants to be.
Speaker 1: Yes, And if you want to share your inner stories
Speaker 1: with us. Why not do so at the TV on
Speaker 1: social media and that brings is nicely to us story
Speaker 1: of the week. You're quite proud of your weight loss at.
Speaker 2: The moment on the journey, I'm getting there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: beginning to shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you came in this morning and told me you
Speaker 1: lost four quid or something. Well, it's this gentleman from
Speaker 1: Vietnam who has lost something a little bit more. He
Speaker 1: went into the doctor with cramps, very not well right,
Speaker 1: and the x ray nom went, oh it wasthing a
Speaker 1: bit way there, more than a dicky tummy. We need
Speaker 1: to have an investigate. So they've they've cut him open
Speaker 1: and pulled out a live thirty centimeter eel m from
Speaker 1: his inners.
Speaker 2: How the hell did that get in?
Speaker 1: Well? This the man couldn't explain it, So how's that happened?
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, mate, obviously, m I don't know, mate,
Speaker 1: not sure right, And that's went There's only one way
Speaker 1: it could have gone up there? Well, no up there,
Speaker 1: because if he had gone down there, he had chewed
Speaker 1: and bitten and they had gone through asking it to
Speaker 1: be dead. So it's gone up inside him.
Speaker 2: He could he could have had a very vigorous blow
Speaker 2: job and then it had fallen off.
Speaker 1: He could have sneezed. It's like open and yeah, And
Speaker 1: they don't know how quickly it got in there, but
Speaker 1: they know that that's the way that he got in.
Speaker 2: Becauld he just have a dream. It happened whilst he's unconscious,
Speaker 2: and he just had a very very noise stream about
Speaker 2: a big It had.
Speaker 1: To a bit of water, because heels are of course
Speaker 1: water based creatures. So what they've worked out is that
Speaker 1: it will have entered through his bum, worked its way
Speaker 1: around is colon, right, and because of where it was
Speaker 1: that it then had to nibble through his colon to
Speaker 1: get into his part of his abdomen.
Speaker 2: That they out. How did he not feel that.
Speaker 1: Very slack ass?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 1: I can say it must have been a very slack
Speaker 1: He doesn't know it wasn't sure it happened, how like
Speaker 1: I think what's happened is has fallen on it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Did that happened or I fell on it? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: know a thing about that kind of scenario. Is that
Speaker 1: a liabel did you fall a light bulb?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No that personal idea?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: What did you fall on?
Speaker 2: No? No? No, I'm getting no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not waking live eels up. My mom didn't
Speaker 1: say you were not here again. That's mm hm hamster,
Speaker 1: I just know it's it's no like.
Speaker 2: You must have known. There's no way he could not
Speaker 2: have known exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why the dots are going. You didn't notice it,
Speaker 1: thirty that's not a clinch.
Speaker 2: That's an experience, like it can't happen in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night and you sleep all the way through it.
Speaker 1: That because you'd have to have been in water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it had to have been like waist deep in water.
Speaker 2: This is why you should wear your little swimming bottoms,
Speaker 2: your little budgy, your budgy little swimming bottom.
Speaker 1: I think he has got quite a large swimming bottom.
Speaker 2: He definitely has a large He didn't before. He definitely
Speaker 2: has now. I slippery.
Speaker 1: Well, well, yeah, I should watch out for those elephants
Speaker 1: in the zoo. Anybody that's not watched that episode of
Speaker 1: the show missed once watched an elephant fist someone else.
Speaker 2: Another elephant, not just someone but oh no that mm
Speaker 2: that The eel can't consent, can it? It went up?
Speaker 1: So I think it can can eels go backwards, ill reversing,
Speaker 1: ill reversing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I suppose if he enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: had an eel of a time, a whale of a time.
Speaker 2: Surely no hell of us, oh cold. Some jokes are
Speaker 2: wasted on people.
Speaker 1: And some people don't make jokes at all. But that's
Speaker 1: all from the buzz this week. I don't start kicking.
Speaker 2: Thank you by.
Speaker 1: You're welcome stick around coming up next to we've got
Speaker 1: a game to play in our Game of.
Speaker 2: The week, welcome back, and yes you are watching Chewing
Speaker 2: the Cut, and we're going to play the Gobby Game Show.
Speaker 1: And this one is for a very own gobshite Mike,
Speaker 1: Off you.
Speaker 2: Go, Giggler.
Speaker 1: Day of the week. So are you ready to sing
Speaker 1: along in the Gobby Game Show?
Speaker 2: Mike? Well, okay, give me your first tune. We'll see
Speaker 2: if I can get it.
Speaker 3: A la.
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, could you do it again? Please? I
Speaker 2: think I nearly had it then. Oh, I.
Speaker 1: Think I think that might be the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the song. Oh. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who I used to hang
Speaker 2: out with in rock clubs in the nineties wanting to
Speaker 2: punch me in the face right now. Oh here, I
Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the song, but it is
Speaker 2: red Hot Chili Peppers right hat, Oh, under the bridge,
Speaker 2: Under the bridge, I'm an idiot. On oh, hang on,
Speaker 2: this is the last bit again? Oh Oasis wonderwall. Yay?
Speaker 2: Do I get a prize for this? No? I should
Speaker 2: win something?
Speaker 4: H yeah, go on ah I heard.
Speaker 2: Well, oh please more of the dramatic rendering. I want
Speaker 2: to see the performance was more than a song. You
Speaker 2: do just look like you are groping the invisible man
Speaker 2: and he's having a lovely time. Uh hm hmmm, that
Speaker 2: that's what you look like. Mm hmmmm killing me softly?
Speaker 2: Which version of it? I'm not too sure, but killing
Speaker 2: me softly? No, you know, man, you'd be lucky to
Speaker 2: be too sexy for Birmingham. I am right, said friend,
Speaker 2: I'm too sexy. You're good at this. Actually, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's me who should be winning the prizes. It's you.
Speaker 2: You should be. You should be winning points for successfully communicating.
Speaker 2: I haven't got a clue, then, then that's all I got.
Speaker 2: It basically sounded a little bit like a seal complaining
Speaker 2: of constipation. What far of your own? No, I haven't
Speaker 2: got a clue on that one. I'm sorry, no idea.
Speaker 2: What are you doing to the Invisible Man? Now? Is
Speaker 2: it a lottle? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was never going to get that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know that war.
Speaker 2: I thought this is very very very much my era.
Speaker 2: That's tub thumping. Oh god, who was the band? It
Speaker 2: was like something project or something. There's a load of
Speaker 2: people being very very political and making a wonderful pop
Speaker 2: song to do it. Say that again, Hubba bubba, I
Speaker 2: know what it is like, chumber wamba. What are you
Speaker 2: doing to the invisible man now? Mm hmmm mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: Mm hm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2: That that that's that's what you're doing. H another song? Please?
Speaker 1: What move?
Speaker 2: I I'm sorry I did not recognize that. But apparently
Speaker 2: the gallery have a guess, and the galleries guesses. The
Speaker 2: bird is the word. I did not know. I had
Speaker 2: no idea. It was songs knowing there's a diners or
Speaker 2: locker diners or go there's more. There's tons of dinosaur.
Speaker 2: That would be the theme to Jurassic Park.
Speaker 5: All right, they fall in love?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why was was it? Was it Anita Dobson, He's no, no,
Speaker 2: it was it was Oh WePlay shower. Isn't it Leticia Dean?
Speaker 2: Anyone can fall in love? Well? Then is it not Leticia?
Speaker 2: It was it? Then soon it's gonna come. Have another song, please, Mike?
Speaker 2: Right right album? Mike, are you trying to wrap? I
Speaker 2: am rapping.
Speaker 5: About the point?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: What I can tell I can tell it it's I
Speaker 2: can tell that it's a rap. The chicken and bacon
Speaker 2: caesar salad, baby Baby got back. That sounded nothing like it.
Speaker 2: And as Mike has a mental breakdown in the corner
Speaker 2: over there, I think it's about time we moved on
Speaker 2: to speak to Jordan Charles about his most recent project,
Speaker 2: Welcome Back to Cheering the Cud. Now I've had him before,
Speaker 2: so he wanted to welcome him back as it's Jordan
Speaker 2: Charles in Spotlight.
Speaker 6: Welcome back, Thank you, Thank you for having me. I've
Speaker 6: actually been here the whole time. They have not let
Speaker 6: me lose. Please, I'm so hungry.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows we snack. Well. Last time you were with us,
Speaker 2: you were telling us about this new musical. Yes, want
Speaker 2: did you tell us a bit more about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I have been for about eleven years. I've been
Speaker 6: writing this musical a. Yeah, it's a bilingual Afro fantasy musical,
Speaker 6: So it's got words and songs in English and Europa,
Speaker 6: which is a West African language, and there's also an
Speaker 6: entire Euroba obviously culture and religion and mythology and that
Speaker 6: religion and the Urishas, which is what they call gods.
Speaker 6: You can find them in Nigeria, but also in Brazil
Speaker 6: and in the Caribbean and kind of you know, all
Speaker 6: the places that you know, our people have kind of
Speaker 6: ended up over the time, and so I wanted to
Speaker 6: create this show to kind of explore that in a
Speaker 6: fun way. And how do you explore that with some magic? Yeah,
Speaker 6: So our story is about a young man who's born disabled,
Speaker 6: and it's set in a fictional country in pre colonial
Speaker 6: West Africa, and so the people of their village when
Speaker 6: he's born disabled, they actually discard him from the village
Speaker 6: out he's cursed. But at some point he receives the
Speaker 6: powers of Aya, who's the godess of wind and storms
Speaker 6: and weather, and so he's able to fly and control
Speaker 6: the weather. And so the show's about him kind of
Speaker 6: having these new powers and deciding how to use them
Speaker 6: and how to respond to the way he's been treated
Speaker 6: and you know, how to move forward. There's some big
Speaker 6: old songs in then.
Speaker 2: So that's a bit like a fairy tale.
Speaker 6: That it's very fairy turn inspired. It's very kind of
Speaker 6: Hero's journey inspired, you know, like it's yeah, it's kind
Speaker 6: of that. I've always been obsessed with fairy tales and
Speaker 6: legends and mythology and comic books superheroes. So it kind
Speaker 6: of draws from all of those things but hopefully brings
Speaker 6: it in a new way. So hopefully it has a
Speaker 6: real kind of familiarity to people in a way, but
Speaker 6: also kind of feels new and exciting cool.
Speaker 1: And so let me say, it's a musical. What kind
Speaker 1: of music is it? Are we expecting like high big Beyonce? Oh,
Speaker 1: he expect like phantom?
Speaker 6: Or we I would say, it's I mean, it's so
Speaker 6: the whole thing as well as kind of mixing the
Speaker 6: two languages, were also mixing the two musical styles, and
Speaker 6: so it kind of has kind of really big musical
Speaker 6: theater moments and elements, but also kind of really like
Speaker 6: joyful or deep and intense music kind of drawn from
Speaker 6: from West Africa, you know, for artists like Fella and
Speaker 6: you know, the beautiful choral music and especially the drum rhythms.
Speaker 6: We have an amazing, amazing producer and m D. Bobby Zion,
Speaker 6: and he's actually worked with a bunch of different musicians,
Speaker 6: including drummers from Nigeria, to really get the rhythms and
Speaker 6: the sounds, you know, really right. So it's a it's
Speaker 6: a it's a party. It goes some places. But yeah,
Speaker 6: at the sharing last week, everyone was just dancing and
Speaker 6: having an incredible time.
Speaker 2: So you're collaborating with drummers and you mentioned puppets last
Speaker 2: week as well. Yeah about the pub. Everybody loves.
Speaker 6: Everybody loves. But I'm glad you got that in there,
Speaker 6: which actually you have to say it if we say
Speaker 6: the word better, so thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how how collaborative has this process been?
Speaker 6: That that has been really the main thing that this
Speaker 6: most recent time has been about. So we've received some
Speaker 6: incredible money from the Arts Council to do our R
Speaker 6: and D. And actually kind of originally when I was
Speaker 6: kind of putting together the process to make that happen,
Speaker 6: I really thought it was going to be about me
Speaker 6: writing and taking time away, but actually it's become about
Speaker 6: the collaboration and essentially kind of you know, like building
Speaker 6: the team and you know, the people who are going
Speaker 6: to cheerlead this thing as it as it as it
Speaker 6: hopefully grows. And so yeah, we've got incredible artists. I
Speaker 6: mentioned Bobby Zion, our music producer. We have an incredible
Speaker 6: set designer, Natalia Letienek who's been working where that's just
Speaker 6: created this incredible like lunar solar piece, and we've got
Speaker 6: caroling on the puppets. We've also been collaborating with aerial
Speaker 6: artists to kind of show the flying elements of this
Speaker 6: and the so yeah, yeah, Tamsen and Joe and Zaki
Speaker 6: Musa worked with us. So it's been a whole it's
Speaker 6: been a whole team effort and kind of having all
Speaker 6: of that housed here in the mill and kind of yeah,
Speaker 6: cout in this beautiful place full of artists has been.
Speaker 2: You started this process eleven years ago? What started everything off?
Speaker 6: Eleven years ago? So I actually started writing the show
Speaker 6: as my dissertation at university, and so then it was
Speaker 6: just pure imagination, right, like I was just yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: like actually how to make this happen wasn't in my
Speaker 6: head at all, and so I wrote this mad show
Speaker 6: where people were flying and gods were appearing and there
Speaker 6: was magic, no limited and that no limitations at all,
Speaker 6: and now they're a limitations. There are limitations.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you would from that original idea
Speaker 2: or your early thoughts on it that you wish you
Speaker 2: could have done, but from developing it, going ah, that's
Speaker 2: not going to work.
Speaker 6: Do you know we're making this show is actually an
Speaker 6: exercise in not doing that, actually, because I think the
Speaker 6: the impulse is absolutely there to kind of be like, Okay,
Speaker 6: well that was you know, the dream of the twenty
Speaker 6: one year old and that's not going to happen now.
Speaker 6: And I think actually, and I've been quite ready to
Speaker 6: do that, and other people who've come to the project
Speaker 6: have kind of said to me, you know, an incredible
Speaker 6: business partner, Cynthia, you know, she was one of the
Speaker 6: first people to say like, no, we're not you know,
Speaker 6: but we can do it smaller, we can do She
Speaker 6: said no, no, no, like, yeah, maybe we might do
Speaker 6: it smaller on the way to where we're hopefully going
Speaker 6: to but you know, yeah, other people have come up
Speaker 6: to the project have been like you no, we also
Speaker 6: see you know, the big thing. So it feels, you know,
Speaker 6: very very big and very far away and quite possible, but.
Speaker 2: Why why not? Why not try?
Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned previously about you embracing your
Speaker 1: blackness and queerness. How queer is the show?
Speaker 6: I think this this current version of the show. So
Speaker 6: I'm currently doing some one person sharings of the show.
Speaker 6: So it's very inspired by like the oral tradition of
Speaker 6: of of African kind of storytelling and and you know,
Speaker 6: kind of mythology and passing down of history. So it's
Speaker 6: kind of very very inspired by that, but it's also
Speaker 6: me in kind of my you know, kind of cabaret
Speaker 6: performance persona. So I think these tellings of it are
Speaker 6: are kind of like, yeah, some of the most kind
Speaker 6: of queer versions of it. And so yeah, we did
Speaker 6: did the first one last week at the Mill, which
Speaker 6: was incredible, and then we do and then we've got
Speaker 6: another one in London at the Phoenix Arts Club, and yeah,
Speaker 6: it's just been an incredible, incredible time to kind of
Speaker 6: tell this story with my lens of as I called it,
Speaker 6: gain nonsense.
Speaker 1: I mean, in your reference, doing it as a trial
Speaker 1: isn't a mill. And we were very lucky we actually
Speaker 1: got to go and see, and we've got a little
Speaker 1: bit clip of that net.
Speaker 3: Then let me take you to a time long long
Speaker 3: ago and a place far far away, to a land
Speaker 3: where God still walk the earth and magic still exists.
Speaker 5: From ouside.
Speaker 6: This is a world care But thankfully he is not alone.
Speaker 2: Every one, just one so much.
Speaker 6: His best friend Dara and his mother live right there with.
Speaker 5: Him, O, my family, every person.
Speaker 1: I know, what an incredible performance that was.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Definitely tell it's a passion project for you.
Speaker 6: It really is, it really really is, and it's been
Speaker 6: you know, I've been we talked about it on the
Speaker 6: last show. I was on kind of doing this full
Speaker 6: time for about seven years, and so I've enjoyed all
Speaker 6: of those seven years. But doing this project has been yeah,
Speaker 6: and yeah, it's just felt right the whole time. It
Speaker 6: really feels kind of correct. It feels like, yeah, like
Speaker 6: a like a passion project. And so it's been hard work.
Speaker 2: But what the worssons you took from these shows? Then
Speaker 2: how long do you have.
Speaker 6: Because let me tell you, yeah, very much for myself
Speaker 6: mostly yeah, so much, so much.
Speaker 2: I think I've really.
Speaker 6: I've found you know, some really kind of like nuts
Speaker 6: and box stuff like just kind of finding out how
Speaker 6: to kind of get the most out of out of
Speaker 6: a day without kind of draining myself. But also just
Speaker 6: one of my friends, incredible drag Queen Astrosenica, said to me,
Speaker 6: follow the fun. Follow the fun. And the times when
Speaker 6: this has been a bit confusing or a bit overwhelming,
Speaker 6: which like you know, definitely has been, I've just leant
Speaker 6: into that, and in doing that, I've been able to
Speaker 6: you know, fall back into rhythm and get, you know,
Speaker 6: to the place that I want to go. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I think that's been the biggest lesson.
Speaker 2: And when you follow the fun, where's that going to
Speaker 2: take you? Next?
Speaker 6: Hopefully to the top of a mountain, let's see, let's see,
Speaker 6: you know, next, to to just spending more time writing
Speaker 6: the show, to kind of like really just disappearing into
Speaker 6: this world and seeing what I can kind of create
Speaker 6: and imagine and just yeah, having some more fun.
Speaker 1: Why can we see the show next?
Speaker 6: We're going to take some time to kind of have
Speaker 6: a look at what we've done. So but I think
Speaker 6: the next thing that people can do is just kind
Speaker 6: of yet go and find the clips of the musical
Speaker 6: and just share as much as possible, so you can
Speaker 6: follow me at I Am Jordan Charles on Instagram. You
Speaker 6: can follow Obsidia Collective, which is a production company, also
Speaker 6: on Instagram orbsidy Collective dot com.
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