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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Marvel Lines Podcast, recover everything and everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do to the Marvel Universe or the comics, TV

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<v Speaker 1>and movies. We'll go from US six one six of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moja Verse of the TVA in order to bring

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<v Speaker 1>to Marvel unis right too. I'm the Man without Fear, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Nerve with mouth David Alliance a Semple Volume

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ninety eight, and by this time next week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we will have uh, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>one episode away, you know, from episode three hundred and Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's like we keep saying, it's been a right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of surreal getting in like the single digits

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<v Speaker 1>now just imminent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were marching on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so but uh it's you know, we we took

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<v Speaker 1>off last week because no news, which we we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of called that the week before. So, but we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with our first half of our breakdown of Spiderman Noir

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<v Speaker 1>because we're forty minute episode plus for each episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm good, but I'm not that good to break

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<v Speaker 1>all those down at that point, especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dropping the way it did. But we're gonna do half

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<v Speaker 1>of it this week half of it next week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a kind of a good digestible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So h but it's we got some definitely thoughts. But

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<v Speaker 1>how has been your last two weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>My last two weeks, I have been pretty good, just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, working and doing the life things, spend a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of kids. I was in Chicago for a concert

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<v Speaker 2>and then I, yeah, I had fund spent way too

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<v Speaker 2>much money at the Harry Potter store there, and then

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<v Speaker 2>but that that was fun. So we took the train

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<v Speaker 2>down there, which was an experience, and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>some other stuff lined up. So I'm just full gear

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<v Speaker 2>into summer, between working an augmented time frame and then

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And I will say that tomorrow I will

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<v Speaker 2>get to see our friend Brent in person again, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of excited about that. Ah a bit, you

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<v Speaker 2>got lunch plans, I'll look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you had a good trip. Yet, we have

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<v Speaker 1>officially wrapped up the twenty five twenty six school year,

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm at great, awesome results for my school, very

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<v Speaker 1>proud of all the work it was. We've come a

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<v Speaker 1>long way in a year to date, you know, huge, huge,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least ten percent plus results and growth for

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<v Speaker 1>our kids and proficiency. So it can't be any more

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<v Speaker 1>proud of what they've been able to do. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>summer's coming and opening a new building this summer, so

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<v Speaker 1>people say, oh break mode, No, no, no, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a different, quieter building at that pointoint. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of work ahead, but it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be nice. Next week we start our four

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<v Speaker 1>day weeks, so we'll have three day weekends, uh, for

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<v Speaker 1>for through through July. So I'm gonna soak those up

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to this. But yeah, we've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. And you know, we've talked to some

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man Noir. You know, we we have the first

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<v Speaker 1>X Men ninety seven season two trailer. Now we're not

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<v Speaker 1>even call it teaser. It's a trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a full trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a full on trailer. We're not gonna play that

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<v Speaker 1>a teaser. A teaser is a minute or less in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, and this was anything, but one could say

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<v Speaker 1>it teased a lot of things. But yeah, we it's

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<v Speaker 1>very exciting. So it's gonna be a chonky as my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend Chuck would say, we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>crunchiness to go over this point, a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>things to go over, a lot of a lot of facts,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of crunchy facts for you chuck this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, before we get into that, let's break

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<v Speaker 1>down the network plugs. So we we are. We are

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<v Speaker 2>And then we've got our five.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars year with ad free episodes, early access episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>there from the Marvel Liones back catalog. We've got we

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<v Speaker 1>can watch this all day, the Marble Lines in Finnis

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<v Speaker 1>our last year we did our Baxter Broadcast the Fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>Four retro film reviews. And we can officially announce tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, this afternoon, whenever you listen to this, it's

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<v Speaker 1>whenever watching this, we can officially announce our new Patreon show.

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<v Speaker 1>It will not just be for the summer because of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing, It's gonna take us through a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit a couple of months. But I proposed to David,

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<v Speaker 1>with David probably only read about in the notes. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a chance to talk about this because technical issues.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're starting later at this point, headphone issues. What

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<v Speaker 1>have you coming in June? Our newest show for patrons

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<v Speaker 1>Cape Expectations, The Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Rewatch Slash first watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we call it a first watch? This will be

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<v Speaker 1>my first time watching it through and through. I've only

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<v Speaker 1>seen a couple of episodes, not because I disliked it life.

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<v Speaker 1>I will always blame it on that. Now I get things,

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<v Speaker 1>things capp and other things came up. It'll be David's

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<v Speaker 1>Rewatch at this point, so it's gonna I'm excited because

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna give us a lot of perspective on this.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we are calling the show cape Expectations, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little play on words there. So every month we

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<v Speaker 1>will give our thoughts on the on five episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Mighty series. We're gonna go in order. It is

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons, twenty six episodes each, so yes, it will

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<v Speaker 1>middle of like arcs, we'll alter how many we're going

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<v Speaker 1>through at that point, but the goal is five episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>that point kind of you know what we've done in

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<v Speaker 2>This will be this will be a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've done Yeah, we haven't done TV

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<v Speaker 1>we could do a summer thing, but I think we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you and I talk, we could do a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keep to the idea of you know, dropping

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<v Speaker 1>So patrons, you've been patient for Marvel Line stuff. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. We've got to coming at you. So Cape Expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>The Avengers, Earth Mighty Heroes, rewatch last first watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's gonna it's gonna be fun. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a while since I've really sat down to watch the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched a lot of clips lately and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different things on it, and for some reason, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>showing up on my TikTok lately with a lot of edits.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm I'm kind of excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I might actually, this is definitely something that my

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe kind of a first watch for me, my

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<v Speaker 1>son and I a little bonding moment. I'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>I can rope him into watching this with dad. But

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<v Speaker 1>and not excluding my daughter. She may be interested, she

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<v Speaker 1>may not be interested. I'm not going to exclude her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know my son's definitely been into the Superheroes

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of new epics from X MENX Caliber, Venom, Blade, Spider, Gwen.

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<v Speaker 1>volume three of that. And here's a biggie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, this is a big deal. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for this. This has been one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm very excited about this, David, would you be

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<v Speaker 1>So this will be both volumes coming out in September,

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get rid of this. Don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>at our normal time live for breaking out the next

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to record early our three hundredth episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I enjoyed it. Like I said, it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>York Times and talking about how you know this is

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Like it does have

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<v Speaker 2>his tongue in cheek moments. There are times where it

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<v Speaker 2>and there. Like that, they lean into the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the episode one in colored Chess, so I could see

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<v Speaker 2>some of the differences. But yeah, that black and white

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<v Speaker 2>can't be beaten. They definitely lean into that. I do

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<v Speaker 1>How you know, within the phone app and even on

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<v Speaker 1>in black and white, and it is good. So oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Katia, Oh okay, that works. I think the four

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this, it just feels a lot better and

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start breaking these down. We're going to do our best,

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<v Speaker 1>And again we want you to enjoy the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll my my gate my my gatekeeping of who Ben

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<v Speaker 1>May his uncle Ben, you know, that's that's who has

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else. And you know, we we see Ben

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<v Speaker 2>this guy Addison and going through there just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>break into a safe and I'm like, that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>that that that's a cool way of doing this version

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, because we haven't even gotten to that point

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<v Speaker 1>where it it's kind of gone into how this happened

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<v Speaker 1>to have this happen to them. But you know, he twit,

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<v Speaker 2>And so we get.

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<v Speaker 2>uh pretty quickly and so and and that's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the I think there was another guy after him,

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<v Speaker 1>like another private detective searching for him. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he got he gets also gets knocked unconscious. It goes

419
00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:19.519
<v Speaker 1>through his Wali finds three dollars to his name and

420
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.119
<v Speaker 1>says like someone's hired him both to take him and

421
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<v Speaker 1>then he ended up taking him out. You know, It's

422
00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because they're following all these like little cliches

423
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>because the next day, he goes back to his office.

424
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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't paid his secretary in a while. You know,

425
00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he tells her Addison's dead by name name mister Cannedy

426
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>is dead. As you know, it's just everything's not going right.

427
00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And this other like other mister Cannedy comes in and

428
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him to spy on his wife because

429
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>she's meeting up with someone. And it's just like it's

430
00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>all these very much interesting film noir tropes. You know,

431
00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the guy trying to spot and his wife because he

432
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.079
<v Speaker 1>thinks he's cheating on him, but it leads down to

433
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>other different paths for the Pride Detective like this is

434
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>this is not to call it paint by numbers, it's

435
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>just very appropriate apropos for the film noir genre very

436
00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 1>much so.

437
00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.799
<v Speaker 2>It reminded me of something that you would see on

438
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.440
<v Speaker 2>a TV in the background of like a nowadays movie,

439
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 2>like them watching something film noir and it having the

440
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>very paint by numbers thing on that, like they went

441
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>through those those various beats and so you know it,

442
00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you get this explosion, you get this molten man, and

443
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>and Ben get it. And then we also start learning,

444
00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, early on about the you know, the big

445
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:54.640
<v Speaker 2>presence of Silvermain and hear the king their version of

446
00:23:54.839 --> 00:24:02.559
<v Speaker 2>a kingpin within this city who has taken over. And

447
00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, ever since the Spider has quote unquote retired

448
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:11.039
<v Speaker 2>or gone away, then he's he's rose to power unchecked.

449
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And Robbie, uh, Robbie roberts, uh, you know he's me.

450
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Robbie has called out, you know, his friend. He's he's

451
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 1>a reporter, and he very clearly knows who Ben.

452
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Is, yeah, or at least who he used to be.

453
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And Robbie points out that he like you said,

454
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>he calls him out, saying, you know, since you have

455
00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:44.759
<v Speaker 1>not been the Spider, Silvermain's been left. He's been left

456
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to rise to power. And he says, ever since you

457
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 1>know his his wife passed away or has fiance passed away,

458
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 1>it's been there. And obviously this is Robbie Roberts in

459
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a version of the character from the comics that is

460
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>tied to the Daily Bugle Peter Parker things like that

461
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 1>he's a reporter, but he's also been We find out

462
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 1>there that he has lost his job at the Bugle,

463
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 1>so he's kind of a freelance trying to find his

464
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>way back in with these stories, and the Spider was

465
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.839
<v Speaker 1>his kind of claim to fame. And you know, I

466
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Speaker 1>think Robbie is a genuinely want to do the right thing,

467
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>but he also can use if Ben returns the Spidery,

468
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>he can use that to come back into the limelight himself.

469
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's wanting him to return. He was not only

470
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>his friend, but he was also his moneymaker. And you

471
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>could tell he's like, you know, you have the ability

472
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 2>to come back. You know that there's so much going

473
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>on in this city. I'm still working as a reporter.

474
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.519
<v Speaker 2>But if the Spider was back, not only, you know,

475
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>could we do some good, but also I could get

476
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>back on my feet.

477
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And after leaving his meet up as Robbie, Ben bumps

478
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>into a boy named Frankie who has been practicing pickpocketing

479
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:02.519
<v Speaker 1>and he becomes will be seeing more of him later.

480
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>At that point and through Robbie's story, we learned that

481
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Silvermain has a big like like you said, he is

482
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the kingpin of the city. Without doing it again, Silvermain

483
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>is a character from the comics. He is a gang

484
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>person in the comics as well. But you know, at

485
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 1>this time, we're also in the Great Depression Prohibition. Like

486
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 1>everyone's down on their luck. No one's making a ton

487
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>of money. Everyone's trying to struggle to make ends meet.

488
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>And it works. And as Ben reads the paper waiting

489
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>outside the hotel where a woman that he's trying to

490
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>case the joint for he's looking into is supposed to

491
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>be meet a suitor he sees he gets to drop

492
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 1>drops her off, follows her inside, watching as she takes

493
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the elevator up to the penthouse. And what we see

494
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is like Ben trying to do a really bad job

495
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 1>of like trying to get into places or doing different personalities,

496
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>like he's not good at this, but he's also playing

497
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it up to the point where he's charming at the

498
00:26:59.200 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>same time.

499
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is one of the parts where again

500
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 2>this leans into the non seriousness of this show, where

501
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a bunch of moments where you thought you

502
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>were gonna see Bin go into his old spider persona

503
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>or use some of his powers. And you know, he

504
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 2>sees her go up to the pittinghouse and he goes

505
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>back outside and he's staring up and you're thinking, Okay,

506
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna scale the walls you use his web Nope,

507
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>next thing you know, he's running up the scalfolding, up

508
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the side steps, floor by floor by floor, and just

509
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>little things like that, Like you keep expecting him to

510
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>get into this mode and he's showing you like, no,

511
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>he definitely gave up that spider life. Yeah.

512
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But as the woman meets up, the guys she's meeting

513
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>up with kind of roughs her up, gets ready to

514
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 1>rougher up, and then Ben shoots webbing as he's hiding

515
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in there from to stop him. At that point, so

516
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we can gather that he's an organic web

517
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>shooter yes, so, yeah, I was trying to watch that exactly. Okay,

518
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 1>we're organic web shooting.

519
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the the first time it was questionable. As we

520
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>get along with this series, it becomes more like, yeah,

521
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>this is definitely organic.

522
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're also when I'll go in the first episode.

523
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, he has the moment with the lady. You know,

524
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>he takes the pictures of her and things like that.

525
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Then he goes back to the He goes back and says,

526
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, what he found out about the woman, but

527
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>he's being kind of cautious again, you could you're getting

528
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 2>more of a sense. A lot of this first episode

529
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>is getting a sense of of who Been is and

530
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>things like that. And you also then go from here

531
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>to more of Silvermain and his control over what's going on,

532
00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:00.039
<v Speaker 2>and like Silvermain is not one to be messed with

533
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>at all. He he he takes one of the pi's

534
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and just you know, and this is the first moment

535
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>that shocked me. And we've been talked about it in

536
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 2>our chat with somebody else who was like, hey, can

537
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I watch this with my daughter in the room. It's like, yeah,

538
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 2>he just full on slits of guy's throat right then

539
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and there, and Uh.

540
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh yeah, this was that private eye

541
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that they had overheard that like Silverman wanted to get

542
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>information about Adison's whereabouts and then they figured out it's

543
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like oh my god, they don't know that he's dead.

544
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 1>And and so he's like, oh, we can kind of

545
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>play this dar advantage and and Ben is like, no,

546
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that don't do that, Like I'm out, I'm not I'm

547
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 1>not dealing with any of this at this point, and

548
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 1>so he warned him saying, don't do this. It was

549
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting though that they when they went to go find

550
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Adison's body in the morgue, he wasn't burnt up. They

551
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 1>saw the bullet holes and he wasn't burnt up. So

552
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that was another thing like what is going on here?

553
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>And so after.

554
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Like like you said, like they the other private eye meets

555
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 1>his end because he's playing fast and loose to the truth. Well,

556
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you screw around, you find out. And I'm not saying

557
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he deserved it, but you know, that's what happens when

558
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to play around with the mob and try

559
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to get one over on them, like they're that I

560
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>found it was interesting like the the woman that the

561
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>wife of that husband that they're trying to find who

562
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 1>she is.

563
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, the the lound.

564
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Singer for Sale Remains Club. I love the name Kat Hardy.

565
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>This is their version of Alicia Hardy. I thought that

566
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 1>was very cool. And then you get those people in

567
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the back saying.

568
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's not fully shaw Hardy. She's uh, she's of

569
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Asian descent. It's like it doesn't matter, it is not

570
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 2>integral to the character. She like let it go. Yeah.

571
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Lee Jung Lee is the actress who plays Cat Hardy.

572
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I think in these first four episodes she plays the

573
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>fatale of film noir so well, it is yes, perfect,

574
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>she she is channeling all those fan fatales of the genre.

575
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

576
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>She's doing a great job. Al four episode she's she

577
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>she channels the damsel the dress, but also she can

578
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>handle herself too, So it's it's very interesting but making

579
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that realization of who she is, and we said, all right,

580
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then we get the introduction of her

581
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like muscle at that point too, like is

582
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 1>it I forget this episode or the next episode we

583
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 1>meet Sandy.

584
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>No, it's so this is where you know, Ben goes

585
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>up to talk to her after her performance, and you know,

586
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 2>talk about the pictures that he has, and you know

587
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>how he knows that that's the mayor that she was

588
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>arguing with. And then Kat calls over her muscle, which

589
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>turns out to be Flint Marco. And this for comic

590
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>book fans, you know who who Flint Marco is, as

591
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the sand Man, and so we get this universus

592
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>verse of the sand Man.

593
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So Ben gives her the photo, asks her to meet

594
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>over lunch to discuss the negatives. Ben heads out and

595
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>lest Freddy's help and shaking Flint it. They get into

596
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of a hole back and forth. They end up

597
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>at a.

598
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>What was it?

599
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 1>This is where they go into the construction site and

600
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>they have a big kind of back and forth and

601
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Flint starts transforming into kind of sandman. Like we don't

602
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>get full on, but you start seeing him start changing.

603
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>He punches Ben off of the skyscraper he's getting ready

604
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 1>to follow Zess and he basically says, all right, fine,

605
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 1>launch his web gets back into this and takes Flint down,

606
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's when Kat rushes in to the roof, shouting

607
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Ben to leave her alone. He gives her the negatives

608
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and says fine, not messing with it.

609
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Take him.

610
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to deal with this. The episode ends.

611
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Cat comes to see Ben in his office the morning

612
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>after at saying that Flint is disappeared and she needs

613
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>some help because after she he reveals to a secretary, Oh,

614
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I just give him to him. I didn't make any

615
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>money like he gives away so much like every time

616
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he's had a chance to make some money le quote

617
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>unquote legitimately, it's he ends up trying to throw away.

618
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>He's more willing to do things illegitimately than he is legitimately.

619
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you could tell his secretary is over some

620
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>of the choices that he's making. Yeah.

621
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, So we're gonna take our first ad break

622
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624
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.640
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625
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627
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<v Speaker 1>be right back, all right, and we are back all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two tread lightly all right, David, tell where are

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<v Speaker 1>we going? You know, let's break down with this ones.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Kat asking him to help him find Flint.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Where we're going, Yes, so we we get this. She's

632
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>there and she brings up the fight on the roof.

633
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>She goes, yeah, you know, he has been having these

634
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>moments where you know, he gets angry and everything else,

635
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>or he dips. He she even makes him mention. She goes,

636
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>he never really goes away for long periods of time,

637
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>except four times when he gets hit in the head

638
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>by a still beam, referring to the fight the night before.

639
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>So she asked him to go find Flint, and Ben

640
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>decides to get to work, you know, and he goes

641
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>to Flint's apartment to go try and track him down.

642
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 1>And you know, when they're going to the apartment, I

643
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's alone, right, Yeah.

644
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 2>No, the he gets in there, he starts looking around

645
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>and there a couple of Silvermain's thugs show up. Silvermain

646
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>had mentioned, like right beforehand that you know, he knows

647
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Flint and he's been acting strange. So he has his

648
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>right hand man, Winston, send some goons out there to

649
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>also find Flint and see what's going on. So when

650
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Ben arrives, he's going around, he hears some a knock

651
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>at the door and he quickly slips into a closet,

652
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>only to realize that he forgot his hat. So we

653
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>see him kind of open it up, shoot his web,

654
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>pull that hat in real quick.

655
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 1>If you put closed captioning on the closed caption goes

656
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 1>the whip.

657
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I gad one of those.

658
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh there it is.

659
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>They did it. They did the thing. Yeah, now the one.

660
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 2>The biggest part about this scene is that Ben finds

661
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>some photos and he sees that Flint was, you know,

662
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>in the service before, and he also sees the man

663
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that was on fire previously that they thought burnt down

664
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>silvermains Addison businesses, and then you know, he sees some

665
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 2>other people in this photo. So he gets a sense

666
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>of okay, there there's something deeper going on here with

667
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Flint and his ties to his military service and like he.

668
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And we learned that Ben was part of it. Was

669
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 1>in World War One and was a very bloody affair.

670
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And yes, the ties that they have at this point,

671
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So he adds down. Ben heads down to the alcove

672
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and finds Kat playing the individual piano and forms of

673
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 1>what's he's found, and she admits that she knew he

674
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>was in the war. He asked her about Allison, Kat

675
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 1>denies knowing him. Ben reveals that he's the man who

676
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>burned down silver Remain's place, and now he's dead too,

677
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and as is the PI you tracked him down. So

678
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Silvermain owns the Alco and the club lives or dies

679
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 1>by Cat's performances. Cat's fascinated by Ben's admitting that he's interest.

680
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 1>He's he's interesting and braver than he lets on. And

681
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>so again she's you know, so called, putting her claws

682
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 1>into him in a way. So when he leaves, when

683
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's looking down over him from the cross the way,

684
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>his face is now partially transformed into sand. So he

685
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is close by and then longingly looks at it at

686
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Cat in her apartment. So he's in hiding. So something's

687
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>going on that he feels he needs to be in hiding.

688
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's doing the roaming from this shadows thing, but

689
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>he's still staying close to Cat. And then after this

690
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>we get one of my favorite funny scenes where Ben

691
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>gets back to his apartment, spitey sense goes off. Two

692
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>goons approach him in the apartment and he's gonna go

693
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 2>use his webs to defend himself, and he does the

694
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>motion and nothing happens, and they're just looking at him

695
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, oh, so you know, ty Chi, it

696
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 2>helps with the breathing and relaxation. Yeah.

697
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I had to go back and forth on that one,

698
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 1>saying like did he not want it to happen or

699
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>did he want it to happen? So, yeah, they for

700
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, they just didn't work.

701
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know if that's going to.

702
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Come in revisiting again. It hasn't in the next couple

703
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of episodes that we've seen. I just felt very random.

704
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's why person. Oh, he doesn't want to he

705
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't reveal himself, but he did. He didn't care at

706
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 1>that moment.

707
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he turns around and just throws a

708
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 2>toaster and busts the guy one of the thugs nose

709
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>open and the guy he takes a toaster like a

710
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 2>chap nose Bluddy looks up and Ben's just like, yeah,

711
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>sorry about that. So the fighting susy. They end up

712
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>taking Ben and throwing him in the car.

713
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So they you know, while he's getting driven off,

714
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like they're having a chat back and forth, and you know,

715
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 1>was it.

716
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 2>He he goes, uh, I'm sorry about your nose. And

717
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the gon gooes that was the other guy, and then

718
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Ben punches him in the nose instead, So now both

719
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>of them are sitting there with broken noses. As Ben

720
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 2>jumps out the car, they try and give chase on

721
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 2>this bridge. He swoars through some cars. They lose him.

722
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 2>They look over the bridge, can't find him, and then

723
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 2>we see him hanging doing the one hand hang off

724
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the bridge.

725
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's pure Spider Man at that point. Yea, So

726
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 1>we get the mayor. Mayor's running for office. He's the

727
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.559
<v Speaker 1>one that was with kat. Robbie asked Ben about his bruising,

728
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and Ben encourages him to tread lightly on add some

729
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 1>story just because of what's going on. Mayor is promising

730
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to end prohibition if they vote him in.

731
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>That's not his.

732
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Decision, that's a federal government decision at that point.

733
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's not how that works, Yeah, I guess.

734
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 1>So you know, politics are making promises they don't intend

735
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 1>to keep. So Silvermin's men end up having to Like

736
00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they end up going through what is it Ben's office

737
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and tearing it apart and threatening to kill.

738
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Janet and that's no good. Yeah, they they have her

739
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>at gunpoint and saying any information that she knows when

740
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>they come back, they better tell her she's going to

741
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 2>be as dead as the other private investigator who still that.

742
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 2>They slit.

743
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 1>And Janet tells Ben she's done. She's not dealing with this.

744
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>She has bills to pay, she's not taking risking her

745
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 1>life about this. He's he's not, you know, the person

746
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he used to be, and she's just she loves him,

747
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 1>but loves him as like a friend, but is not

748
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>willing to die for him. And that's that kicks up.

749
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Ben's like saying, all right, I'm gonna do this, so

750
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>he ends up. He disguises himself as the super repairman,

751
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 1>goes into his old place where he hid his spider uniform,

752
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>breaks through, and then takes it back, and you know,

753
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>we say, all right, well, he's kind of getting back

754
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>into that moment. And following his conversation with the myscer

755
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>man at Addison's place, Robbie chases his lead and heads

756
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 1>up to the room to speak with missus Addison and

757
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>she tries to slam the door in the face. Robbie

758
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>informs her that James died, but she doesn't shed a

759
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>tear and mentions that he started to set fire six

760
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 1>months ago and found that he had a innate talent

761
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 1>for it. So this is a new thing for him.

762
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>You know.

763
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Robbie goes meets to see Flint. Uh, the man Robbie

764
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>met goes to see Flint and tells him that James

765
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>is dead. And the reporter came looking for him at

766
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 1>that point. So things are starting to get a little

767
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>tangled up.

768
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go ahead, We're starting to get more more weaves

769
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to this story. I didn't like the scene with Robbie

770
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>meeting up with missus Addison and you know he she

771
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 2>tries to slams the door in his face and he

772
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 2>puts his foot. There's like, no, I need to talk

773
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 2>to you, and she goes, uh, you wouldn't want me

774
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>to scream and say that a black man is trying

775
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to enter my house. That wouldn't look good for you,

776
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 2>would And then he goes, you wouldn't want me to

777
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>scream and tell everyone about how your husband was involved

778
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 2>in the fire at Silvermins and all the people who

779
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>are looking for him. He goes, in my voice goes

780
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot farther than yours. She then goes, okay, we

781
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 2>can talk. Yeah again that that.

782
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Is of the era.

783
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 2>So people say, oh, that's racist. It's like.

784
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't right then. I'm not saying it was right now,

785
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's the era. Yeah, but there no, you know,

786
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Winston checks out the docks and all seems good for

787
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the big deal to go down. So every man's given

788
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the go ahead to come down for.

789
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>The meeting.

790
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 1>And we see Ben in full costume swinging through. It

791
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>looks good. It really does look good for a TV

792
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>show budget, a streaming show budget. They made this website

793
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and go good. We get a great fight on her hands,

794
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 1>showcasing his town. He even kind of masks his voice

795
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently, you know, kind of pulling up.

796
00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't that man.

797
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>He does a little man there, and again it's meant

798
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 1>to be kind of slightly comical too, and you know,

799
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 1>takes down the guys, gets into the car. Silverman's I

800
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 1>want you to back off, Bend Riley, you back off,

801
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll stay out of your business, and he's like, yeah,

802
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you backing off has allowed me to rise

803
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to flame, So that's all you need to do is

804
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>back off. End rally fine. But later at the end

805
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 1>of the episode we find out from Robbie who's at

806
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the scene, and there's a big shoot up between the

807
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>police and what's left of Silverman's main Silver Mains Men

808
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>that they got a tip that he was supposed to

809
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 1>be there at the thing, but something spooked him off

810
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't there. So now they've got all these

811
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of underlings who don't want to like play ball,

812
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and the big bust didn't go as a planned and

813
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>now Ben's beating himself up saying, shoot, I screwed this up.

814
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>The Silverman could have been taken down and I didn't

815
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 1>need to do anything about it.

816
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he came out and this scene with him facing

817
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 2>off against the goons and getting in the car with

818
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Silver Main. There were moments where you could tell, you know,

819
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Ben's older, he's out of practice. You know, he he

820
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>missed one of his webbing shots, but you know, turn

821
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it around. He did a lot of talking to himself

822
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and quipping during this moment, which I was like, Okay,

823
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we're getting again full full Spider Man here.

824
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, even no older equipping and still equipping none

825
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the less.

826
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

827
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we end the episode like that and

828
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we head into episode three, Double Cross.

829
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>So you know, silver Main's been looking.

830
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>For who this rat is because someone's tipped off the

831
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 1>cops that they were supposed to be there, and he's

832
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure this all out. You know, Ben's Ben's

833
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>working to clean up his office. It sure's Robbie that

834
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Janet that Silverman won't ever be a problem anymore, and

835
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that he points out that Robbie had thought the search

836
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 1>for answers. Ben asked Janet to look into whether Addison

837
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Flinter the Man was there. Ever, Pow says they couldn't

838
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 1>have served in the same unit as the units were segregated.

839
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>That's when they get a knock on the door and

840
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 1>get a new client. And who comes through that door

841
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>with those interesting brutes?

842
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Silvermain comes in and he's got his his

843
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>two thugs who have been throughout the story. And it's

844
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.800
<v Speaker 2>funny because Ben first thing he says, like, uh, yeah,

845
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna talk to you until they apologize to

846
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 2>my girl like that they were out of line. And

847
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain looks at him and he's like, I guess you

848
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>guys know the girl in an apology.

849
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Silvermain wants to hire him to find out

850
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>what does what does he hire him to find out.

851
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 1>He wants to figure out who's who's done this, Like

852
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>who hired who's the rat?

853
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who's the rat? Who hired?

854
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I like, who is ratting them out? And he takes

855
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 1>the He takes the deal, you know.

856
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but his secretary is a little bit upset by this.

857
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But Ben's also like, yeah, our options are die by

858
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain's hands or take his money and we need to

859
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>eat yep.

860
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 1>And he's he's a hefty retainer to do that. But

861
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Ben notices something about it and then looks at the money,

862
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>knows something. Then looks at Cat's money she paid to

863
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 1>help help her find Flint, he notices something. They're marked.

864
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 1>They're not just marked, they're marked in different places. Silverman

865
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 1>pays people in marked bills, literally, but pays them in

866
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>marked bills that he knows where he's turning in his

867
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 1>money too.

868
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That that's a smart play on him, And that's

869
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>also a smart play on Ben. And as silver remains leaving,

870
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he says, uh, men lie, but money

871
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't so and and that all will come back full

872
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>circle a little bit later.

873
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so talked about what's going on with Robbie in

874
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this episode.

875
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 2>All right, So Robbie is he's trying to get his

876
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>his job back, and so he's he's got a story,

877
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a lead on a story, and he goes down to

878
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the alleyway where he finds everyone out there and you know,

879
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Flints there and we see some other characters that were

880
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get introduced to their and as Robbie's

881
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 2>looking around for these men and trying to track down

882
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, the police come and just start tearing

883
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the this little community apart that we're all these homeless encampment.

884
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>They just start tearing it apart, hitting people with sticks,

885
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 2>throwing people around, and Robbie is in the middle of it,

886
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and like a true reporter, he pulls out his camera

887
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and he starts taking a picture and everything else, and

888
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, we get our first look at, you know,

889
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 2>some more characters that are going to be step out,

890
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>because we have this this big, strong black man who

891
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 2>steps out and you don't know who he is at

892
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>this point, but you're you're starting to get just a

893
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of an inkling. But he steps out and

894
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 2>he starts protecting all the city, all the people that's

895
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.519
<v Speaker 2>in there, and turns out it's it's Lonnie Lincoln, it's Tombstone,

896
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.679
<v Speaker 2>and they go to swing their batons at him and

897
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 2>they begin to break in between him and Flint. They

898
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.880
<v Speaker 2>just start taking out these cops left and right, as

899
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Robbie's taking pictures of all this.

900
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're trying to bust up the the at the time,

901
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.559
<v Speaker 1>the Hoovervilles and things like that, and they they're the

902
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.559
<v Speaker 1>police are not necessarily doing the right thing. They're they're

903
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>not being you know, they're they're they're hurting civilians. They're

904
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>hurting no one. And so Wyn who are new or

905
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>our version of Tombstone and this one kind of a

906
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>transformation instead of Tombstone just being Tombstone already. It's like

907
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 1>a transformation for him. And when Robbie puts it out,

908
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>sells it to the Beagle, the editor review is like, fine,

909
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 1>give me this stuff. Keep doing this, maybe you'll get

910
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 1>your job back at that point, but they take his

911
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 1>pictures and put a new headline like planting Tombstone and

912
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Flint and them us going after the cops versus what

913
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 1>the truth was. The cops are in this case, we're

914
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>not on the up and up, and yeah, should have been.

915
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 2>These monsters attacking the city, and so.

916
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Robbie's very upset about that because he was trying to

917
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 1>get those get like, you know, our version of Tombstone

918
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and looking thing like, hey, I want to be on

919
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>your side. I want to tell the right story. But

920
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.360
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't make it look like that. So he's saying, great,

921
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm screwed because they're going to think I would lie

922
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 1>to them.

923
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

924
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.119
<v Speaker 1>So, but during Ben's investigation, he ends up finding out

925
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 1>that who is the.

926
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Rat Who's He ends up piecing together that cat is

927
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the rat.

928
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Cats figure that all out, and when Ben confronts Addison's wife,

929
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>she knows like he's telling him to get out of town.

930
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, you're trying to tell me to

931
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>get out of town because I know who the rat is.

932
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I know who it is. I know it's Cat. So

933
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll get out of town if you pay me one

934
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars And he's like, okay, I'll get that. Well,

935
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.559
<v Speaker 1>then he gets into you know, he's gone back and

936
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>forth to meet with Silvermin and his place and they've

937
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>had this kind of interesting back and forth. He he

938
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 1>puts the he webs the door the door latch so

939
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't close which is interesting. I know Spider Man's

940
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>webbing doesn't It does disintegrate, but after a couple of hours,

941
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was like that long could have

942
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>stayed on. So that was kind of interesting to see

943
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 1>the webbing still there when he breaks into the apartment.

944
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is where you had your nitpick about the

945
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the him Ben getting into the safe as a spy.

946
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he goes into Silvermain's safe, breaks in because Vera

947
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>said that the only way that she would give up

948
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 2>information and you know, help Ben and things like that,

949
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>z if he gave her a thousand dollars, A thousand

950
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>dollars and this time is a lot of money, to

951
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the point where earlier Silvermain gives Ben a fifty and

952
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 2>his secretary is like, yeah, that you've never seen something

953
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 2>like that, even here that they make it as one hundred,

954
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>like so a thousand dollars is a lot of money

955
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 2>by this time. So Ben goes in and he steals

956
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>a thousand dollars from Silvermain's safe, and he uses his

957
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 2>spidery sense to break into the safe and you know,

958
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.719
<v Speaker 2>he he almost gets out of there very clean, but

959
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>right as he does, the door that doesn't lash because

960
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.400
<v Speaker 2>his webbing is still there. Six hours later, slams. Everyone

961
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 2>wakes up. But luckily, you know, Ben's able to hide

962
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>in the shadows and not get caught before going and

963
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 2>giving Vera this this thousand dollars and.

964
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say this Brendan Gleeson place SI

965
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 1>remains so well, like he yes, it's it's to the

966
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 1>point like I don't even think it's camp. It's just

967
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>he's playing the part of a gangster from the era.

968
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And so at this point Ben was supposed to

969
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>meet up with Kat. He's like, hey, you know, there's

970
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 2>one final piece to this, but then he gets stopped

971
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>because the mayor wants to see him right here, right now.

972
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And the mayor is saying, hey, I know from your

973
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 2>past that you know the Spider put me in touch

974
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.039
<v Speaker 2>with him so that I can work with him to

975
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 2>he says, save the city, but in reality, I need

976
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 2>some campaign points. So Ben ends up missing his appointment

977
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>with Kat, and he finds out out from the young

978
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.280
<v Speaker 2>man that he was employing earlier that all right, Cat's

979
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 2>already made her way down to the train station. Ben

980
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 2>goes down there, meets up with her, and that's when

981
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain's goons show up and says, everyone's coming with us.

982
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So at this point we have been we have Kat,

983
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>we have Missus Addison, we have silver Remain's right hand Winston,

984
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and they're all standing over a series of graves as

985
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 2>silver Remains like, I want to know who the rat is,

986
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, missus Addison gives gives this story about

987
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, her husband and things like that, and it's

988
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>like she was paid one thousand dollars and Silvermain grabs

989
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 2>the thousand dollars and looks at it and begins to

990
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of laugh to himself, and Winston was like, yeah, okay,

991
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 2>now we know what's going on. Let's take him out.

992
00:53:56.480 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 2>And Silverman goes, you know, there's something I do with

993
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 2>my money. I mark every one of my bills and

994
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I marked them different for everyone on my payroll, so

995
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I know where my money's going and how it gets

996
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 2>back to me, and I mark yours in a very

997
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 2>specific way. Uh. To that point, miss Addison speaks up

998
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.239
<v Speaker 2>again and says, yes, he told me to line. He

999
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 2>told me to say it was you, and Winston is

1000
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>shocked and he's like, no, I'm I'm your guy. I'm

1001
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>here to help you I'm your friend. I would never

1002
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 2>know it in pow, so Remain shoots him dead right there.

1003
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 2>He falls into a grave and then he turns and

1004
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 2>shoots the thugs who are with him.

1005
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't know what that. We don't know at

1006
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the time, like he just shoots that shoot at that point,

1007
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we don't know what was the episode who shoot?

1008
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he has been if he's good with a shovel,

1009
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 2>because he informs him he'll be needing another grave and

1010
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>then that's when we get a shot and that ends

1011
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>episode two.

1012
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, let's uh, let's kind of conclude are

1013
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>this by kind of get getting through episode four a

1014
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>mistake I'll never make again. So it jumps out slightly.

1015
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:12.199
<v Speaker 1>With Kats performing at the alcove, we see Ben with

1016
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Silvermain and learned that it was Geo who he shot.

1017
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh seems Silvermain brought bought the story Ben sold him

1018
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 1>with no questions. But he's not done searching for answers.

1019
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 1>While he caught the rat, He's planning on taking talking

1020
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to the police to chief tomorrow to get answers on

1021
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 1>why he ran the raid when he was supposed to

1022
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 1>be in his pocket. So he's still not feeling safe.

1023
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, Kat walks up and she's still

1024
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>a little bit shaky. She asked silvermin you know, like, hey,

1025
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 2>you you almost killed me last night because of this,

1026
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 2>and asked how he feels about that, and silver Maine's

1027
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty honest, like, hey, this was business. If you know,

1028
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I shot the rat. If you were the rat, I

1029
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 2>would have shot you too, So you know what, go ahead, Uh,

1030
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>but instead we're going to celebrate, So go get me

1031
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 2>some more whiskey and let celebrate that. That's when Kat

1032
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 2>goes into the back room and just has a nice

1033
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>little cry to herself.

1034
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they have we cut to Janet and

1035
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be cut to Kat and Silvermain having a

1036
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.199
<v Speaker 1>conversation and basically Silverman's saying, well, you know, the PI

1037
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>basically saved your life because p I said that you

1038
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>were the rat, you would be dead.

1039
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Kat.

1040
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Said she was terrified because he was unhinged and that

1041
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 1>said Ben wasn't there to protect her and he was

1042
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>watching for Silvermain, but he must have figured out that

1043
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 1>she was in on it until Ben put it together

1044
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 1>that Winston was trying to frame her. You know, Janet's

1045
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 1>working with Freddy to try to teach him lessons as

1046
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.599
<v Speaker 1>a as a call comes through from Kat, who requests

1047
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Ben meet her at the Calypso Ben goes out to

1048
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.599
<v Speaker 1>meet and sees Kat, and she tells him the story

1049
00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that she told Silvermain and notes that hell that Hill

1050
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>start asking questions about the raid. Ben asked why she

1051
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 1>why she tried to kill hermine, and she notes that

1052
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the place to tell that story. So there's

1053
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 1>more to that than anything. Yeah, So what happens they go,

1054
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>They go someplace else where they're probably less listening. And

1055
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 1>what did she reveal?

1056
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 2>So she tells the story about you know, her and

1057
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Flint Marco, how you know they how they came together

1058
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and they were involved with each other, and you know

1059
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 2>he surprised her with the ring and she surprised him

1060
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 2>by saying yes to that. And you know she is

1061
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 2>giving the backstory of where of their connection.

1062
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's going closer, she's getting they're both

1063
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>getting close to each other, Ben and Kat, which is

1064
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 1>again it's for the trope. Yeah, and you know she

1065
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>tells about a man named Thomas who began coming to

1066
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the club night after night, a dentist who eventually wore

1067
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 1>her down and when he's when Thomas stopped coming, she

1068
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 1>thought she did something wrong and later found out Silvermain

1069
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 1>had him killed.

1070
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yep, you know. So, and she she's going to she

1071
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 2>vout to to not make that mistake where you know,

1072
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 2>silvermin knows, and so he he takes out whoever's associated

1073
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 2>with her because Silvermain's made it very clear that like

1074
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 2>she is the the star attraction, the moneymaker of this club.

1075
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.800
<v Speaker 2>She hasn't missed a show in over six years. And

1076
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you know he he is relying on her. He basically

1077
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.880
<v Speaker 2>he picks what she wears, how she looks everything else

1078
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 2>he controls her. Yep.

1079
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 1>And so after killing time talking to him with a

1080
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>man on the street pedling cigarette, Robbie follows a man

1081
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>uh serving meals to Vets, which eventually leads him to

1082
00:58:57.960 --> 00:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>an alleyway where the man hands off a meal till

1083
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Lonnie ak tombstone. Robbie tells Lonnie the story they prince

1084
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the one he gave him and asked for him

1085
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk, and Kat and Ben head off in a

1086
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.440
<v Speaker 1>car together, where Kat admits that Ben that she didn't

1087
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>think that that. She admits to Ben that she didn't

1088
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 1>think that she can be alone tonight, and Ben asked

1089
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the driver to turn around and go back together and say, oh,

1090
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we're getting kind.

1091
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Of now, yeah, which was again kind of shocking that,

1092
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:32.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, she had this thing with Flint. She talked

1093
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>about the other guy getting murdered. But hey, here we

1094
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 2>are going with Ben. At this point, we see Flint

1095
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>go to Silvermain and he tells him that, hey, I

1096
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 2>was just lying low but ready to work. Silvermain's happy

1097
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 2>to have him back and tells him that, you know,

1098
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>he killed Winston who was the rat. And this news

1099
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 2>surprises Flint and his face begins to turn.

1100
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1101
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 2>We get the sense that Flint knew that Kat was

1102
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the rat, but you know, he wasn't going to say anything.

1103
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>And Silverman reminds him that he's always been loyal and

1104
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 2>he's welcomed back, you know, and he's gonna be his

1105
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 2>right hand man again.

1106
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we learn Also we get some more information

1107
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:18.639
<v Speaker 1>from Lonnie about what happened during the war, and so

1108
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Janet asks Lonnie about his locket, which has an H

1109
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:24.239
<v Speaker 1>on it, and he lets her know that it stands

1110
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 1>for Helen, his mom's name. Robbie tells Lonnie about his

1111
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>brother who was a pow, and Lonnie admits that the

1112
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Germans got to him too, and Robbie questions whether they

1113
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 1>did something to them, and Lonnie mentions Doc Faber can

1114
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:41.119
<v Speaker 1>explain things better than him just but once they transform,

1115
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to turn back. So we're getting some ideas

1116
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some this is the result of some things

1117
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 1>from the war. Ben takes Cap back to his place

1118
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and pours him a drink. You know, he did the job,

1119
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. He tells about Ruby and that they were happy.

1120
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He did a job and deadbeat husband ended up doing

1121
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>hard crime. It was out for revenge. He doesn't know

1122
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>how he knew he was close to Ruby, but he did,

1123
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and he killed her that night. But Ben was too

1124
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 1>busy to get drunk to town to know that she

1125
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 1>was in danger and got home too late, and he

1126
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.360
<v Speaker 1>killed her to make him suffer. So there's the truth

1127
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 1>of what happened at that point.

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01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1129
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Again, this is what caused him to hang up his

1130
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 1>hang up his mask for the time being. Yeah, it's

1131
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I like it how we're teasing this stuff out amongst

1132
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the characters. I like this kind of trope. We don't

1133
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.639
<v Speaker 1>get it all at once. We're building to the point

1134
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 1>where okay, now it's necessary to know what happened here,

1135
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>very organic and I like how they're presenting it.

1136
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, good good story building. We're going to lead

1137
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.559
<v Speaker 2>to you know, him and Ben and Cat getting a

1138
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:55.159
<v Speaker 2>lot closer. After this, we cut to an amazing scene

1139
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 2>with Silvermin where he he's been a little bit pissed

1140
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 2>off at the Chief of Police because he wanted the

1141
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Chief of police to meet him and have a talk

1142
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.199
<v Speaker 2>with him about this raid and he's been ducking him.

1143
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.920
<v Speaker 2>So Silvermain goes and crashes the dinner between the mayor

1144
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and the Chief of Police, who skipped out on his

1145
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.199
<v Speaker 2>weekly check in lunch the previous day, and Silvermain suggests

1146
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 2>he will replace the mayor, and the mayor suggests that

1147
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain would be dumb to think that he would go quietly.

1148
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain reminds him that every four years he decides who

1149
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 2>will sit in the chair, as the mayor suggests he

1150
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.239
<v Speaker 2>still has cars to play and that Silvermain had a

1151
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 2>good run. And at this point Silvermain introduces Flint, who

1152
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 2>steps forward and with one solid punch, breaks through the

1153
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 2>table that they're sitting at to show you know that

1154
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Silvermain's got the power and the muscle. He has the power.

1155
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:53.079
<v Speaker 1>So going back to Cat and Ben, Cat suggests that

1156
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 1>he saved her because he couldn't save Ruby, but he

1157
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>says he did it because he didn't want to feel worse.

1158
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 1>He admits that he feels alone. She takes his hand

1159
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and tells him that they can be alone. They can

1160
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>be alone together. Ben Askkat what she's planning on going.

1161
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>She tells him about her dream of going to Sanchorini

1162
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's this whole idea, you know. She

1163
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 1>tries to get Ben to come along to help Flind,

1164
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 1>but he tells her to go. He refuses as she

1165
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 1>calls him a coward and storms out. That's all part

1166
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of Ben's plan. He wanted her out of there so

1167
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 1>he can transform and get down there. When Ben calls

1168
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Robbie to say, get your camera, this is going to

1169
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.440
<v Speaker 1>be one to see the Spider. He's there in Spider costume.

1170
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's not Flint that's there. It's a new electrical

1171
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 1>battye that we all know is Electro, this version of

1172
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Electro at that point, so this is a very not

1173
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a great battle for the Spider. It does not go

1174
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 1>very well, for many different reasons. You can say that

1175
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he is out of practice. He is not his agility,

1176
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but is also you're facing someone who just you know,

1177
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.159
<v Speaker 1>has no morals, has no things, not gonna hold back,

1178
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and he'll kill He would kill the Spider if if

1179
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>he had that opportunity.

1180
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, this man that he's facing with these

1181
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 2>electrical powers, he he he is high on these powers.

1182
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:16.000
<v Speaker 2>He is enjoying himself and he's like, oh man, I

1183
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.039
<v Speaker 2>get to fight the Spider and this is gonna be

1184
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 2>be great. And you know, they they begin to go

1185
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>at it, and you know, Ben is getting beat pretty

1186
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:31.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty badly. He shoots his web and you know, the

1187
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 2>guy retorts with shooting electricity back through the web to

1188
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:38.559
<v Speaker 2>stop him and everything else, and and they go back

1189
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and forth. He even gets Ben gets distracted at one

1190
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 2>point because he sees Cat in the crowd, and you know,

1191
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 2>they keep fighting. And then finally, after Ben sees that

1192
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 2>he's charging up on the electrical box, Ben rips the

1193
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 2>electrical lines out of the sky so that he has

1194
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.400
<v Speaker 2>nothing else to pull from. And as this guy's starting

1195
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 2>to drain, he gets that nice good shot in there

1196
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 2>to knock him out. And then we get the mayor

1197
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 2>coming out of nowhere and grabbing him, holding his arm

1198
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.880
<v Speaker 2>up like he just won a championship for a photo op,

1199
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:22.440
<v Speaker 2>telling Robbie to take his picture, and announces that me

1200
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and the Spider House have teamed up to save this

1201
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:31.800
<v Speaker 2>city and we're going to be working together. And Ben's like, no, no, no.

1202
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 1>No, not a thing, not signing up for this at

1203
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.039
<v Speaker 1>this point. So the episode ends back in Ben's apartment,

1204
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and during this fight, Kat is out there watching him,

1205
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.239
<v Speaker 1>just staring at him, watching the Spider like she's at

1206
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this point, I've started realizing that she's starting to pieces

1207
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:48.559
<v Speaker 1>together well.

1208
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Being back at Ben's apartment, he stretches out after his

1209
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:58.400
<v Speaker 2>fight to rest his catarives. Ben asked if they are,

1210
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, cool as what's going on and what's happening.

1211
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 2>She notices a couple of things. She notices that his

1212
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 2>face is bruised. Also, when he asks Kat, you know,

1213
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 2>how's everything going, he doesn't ask her about, you know,

1214
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the fact that she had to leave is Flint okay

1215
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:24.559
<v Speaker 2>and everything else, And so at this point she's she's

1216
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely got some things pieced together. And so she starting

1217
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to back to the window and she looks at him

1218
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, you know, just tell me this one thing,

1219
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, what said? She goes up, Am I right?

1220
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And she falls backwards out of the window. We see

1221
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the slow cinematic fall, very much reminiscent of you know,

1222
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the die Hard falling out of Nachotomi Plaza, the slow

1223
01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:56.519
<v Speaker 2>fall out there forcing Bin to prove to her that

1224
01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 2>he is the Spider. We get the the moment of

1225
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:04.880
<v Speaker 2>getting the catch a la Gwen Stacy with the attaching

1226
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to the chats and pulling up and so he pulls

1227
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>her back into the window and she looks at him

1228
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and says, nice to meet you, mister Spider, and they

1229
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 2>share a kiss, and that is how we end episode four.

1230
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:29.039
<v Speaker 2>So again it's there hasn't been a lot of major

1231
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 2>action moments within these first four episodes, a lot of

1232
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:38.280
<v Speaker 2>story building, but you know it, it's been a fun

1233
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 2>ride so far and I'm looking forward to see where

1234
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.519
<v Speaker 2>we are going to go next with this. Like Chris said,

1235
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:50.599
<v Speaker 2>he's only watched the first four episodes. I have only

1236
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:56.320
<v Speaker 2>watched the first four episodes, and you know, we have

1237
01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 2>done that on purpose so that we don't have any

1238
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.199
<v Speaker 2>mixed about where the rest of this is going to go.

1239
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard from people that the rest of it is,

1240
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty awesome, and I'm excited to see it,

1241
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:15.360
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I definitely wanted to reserve that moment for

1242
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 2>when we actually watch it. So those are the first

1243
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.600
<v Speaker 2>four episodes of Spider Man Noir. Again, we will be

1244
01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:29.000
<v Speaker 2>back next week. Chris and mister Travis Hines will be

1245
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:33.720
<v Speaker 2>back in order to watch or give their review of

1246
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the second half of this season. So with that being said,

1247
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 2>let's go into our next a break, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>will go into our one story, which is the X

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<v Speaker 2>Men ninety seven trailers. So again, listeners, these ads help

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01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 2>keep the lights on. We have no control over what

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<v Speaker 2>you here or in the volume on that, so we'll

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01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 2>give you a second to turn down the volume if

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<v Speaker 2>you have to. So here they go, three, two one,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are back. Okay, So, if you haven't noticed yet,

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01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Chris is not here right now. He was on but

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01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:26.199
<v Speaker 2>got kicked. He's having some internet issues getting back into

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01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 2>stream yard, like I had some some freezing issues as well,

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01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and it took me a second to get in and

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01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:40.359
<v Speaker 2>back out. So we should be good to go. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>he will be back in very soon. All right, So again,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna play this with no sound. Don't want to

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01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:52.640
<v Speaker 2>get demonetized. It starts off with you're seeing various versus

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01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the X Men. We have rogue talking about you know,

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01:09:55.840 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to believe that things have changed flashbacks of Gambit.

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01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, one of the most heart wrenching moments within

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01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:09.920
<v Speaker 2>last season was the death of Gambit. We learned that

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<v Speaker 2>the X Men are displaced or scattered throughout time. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a section of the X Men in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the section of the X Men in the present,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's the section of the X Men in the feature,

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01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 2>and there is Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Streamyard kicked me, but it was interesting. It kicked

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01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 1>both of us and I lost in it. You apparently

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01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 1>did not, so I'm glad. So I hate that I

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<v Speaker 1>miss the beginning part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so you know what, we're only a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>seconds in. Let's go ahead and run it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give my thoughts. Yes, sorry, guys, it's been a

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01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.479
<v Speaker 1>night of technic So yeah, if you notice there, Bishop's

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01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:56.159
<v Speaker 1>also in the background of that opening shot, so we

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01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's there or happens to be there.

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01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So Bishop is in that opening shot.

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01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got Bishop, Beast, Magneto, Rogue, and Nightcrawler on

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01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:14.039
<v Speaker 2>this team. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, Gambit is

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<v Speaker 2>still very much you know, not there. I made the

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<v Speaker 2>call last time that I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Horseman of the Apocalypse, going to be their new death,

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01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 2>just reminding everyone of what happened with him that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so X Men or are scattered through time. We see

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<v Speaker 2>a quick blurb of them walking through what looks like

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01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a tomb of some sort or pyramid, and we have

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01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Charles Xavier there, Magneto, there, Beast, Rogue and Nightcrawler just

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<v Speaker 2>going through this tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, go back. Did you see that would be

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<v Speaker 1>Rama Tut in the background. A A that would be yep,

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01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:11.319
<v Speaker 1>right there we see Rama Tut the Aka and mortis

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01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a k A Kang the Conqueror. So will we see

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because Evanson evans no, Apocalypse has always been

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<v Speaker 1>in a war with Rama Tut at this point. So

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<v Speaker 1>where we see our our Kang in in the X

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<v Speaker 1>Men universe, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we we we get a shot of you know,

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01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Apocalypse and he's got horsemen behind him. We we don't,

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01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.159
<v Speaker 2>we don't We don't know which version of the Horseman

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01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 2>this is just yet, but we we are seeing the

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01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 2>war and the destruction, and you know, it's interesting because

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01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.319
<v Speaker 2>this looks like the past, but there's also some futuristic

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01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 2>robots and other things around in this error. So yeah,

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01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:04.960
<v Speaker 2>keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we can get the the from the past

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<v Speaker 1>of Apocalypse to the future of Apocalypse, all the death

1312
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and destruction that has resulted from you know, his rule.

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01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And you got to look at his cyclops in you know,

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01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:23.079
<v Speaker 1>his uniform underneath the jacket that is the X Factor

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01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 1>uniform from when he they were forming the very first

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01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:31.319
<v Speaker 1>version of X Factor in the comics. Yeah, we've seen

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01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Summers there, their child in the future. Oh okay,

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01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:39.840
<v Speaker 1>so go back.

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<v Speaker 2>The ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that that ship was Apocalypses at one point in

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01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the comics. Then X Factor took it over at that point,

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01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so that's also a callback to that. So it looks

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01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:57.399
<v Speaker 1>like they're destroying a bunch of stuff that ship. Yeah,

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01:13:57.800 --> 01:13:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we gotta love Magneto being bearded.

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01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, bearded Magneto and he got Charles, you know, getting

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01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:09.119
<v Speaker 2>ready to use his powers, and you know that this

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01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.359
<v Speaker 2>feels like a to me, my X Men call out

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<v Speaker 2>as everyone strikes their pose.

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01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I love it that Nightcrawlers. It looks to

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<v Speaker 1>be a very big prominent part of this of this season.

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01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Yep. So then we get the version of Apocalypse that

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01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:36.119
<v Speaker 2>we're most used to, and he's saying that we have

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01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to strike the X Men when they are their most

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01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.199
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very big. Got to get the X Men back

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01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:47.079
<v Speaker 1>to the nineties, all right. I have a little couple

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01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of issues with this, and I know I'm not the

1338
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>only one to call this out. It's like, oh, Polaris

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01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and these photos Pilaris with the original X Men, When

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01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>did that happen? I don't know. I know they did

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01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about her and Bobby having a real relationship in

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01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the show one point where that is acknowledged. I'm not

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01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:04.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about that, but there are other photos with them

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01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.640
<v Speaker 1>hanging out together. Sure, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the picture on the far right is definitely,

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01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:16.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, the old school original X Men costume. You've

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01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:21.000
<v Speaker 2>got beasts before you know he transformed. You've got Jean

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01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Gray in the green short skirt and the yellow mask.

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01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:31.359
<v Speaker 2>So this is definitely the old school X Men. And

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01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:36.239
<v Speaker 2>she's just hanging out with them. Yeah, so there's a

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01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 2>better look at this.

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01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right there, we have never seen anything like that

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01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:43.039
<v Speaker 1>in the show. I'm not saying this wasn't a thing,

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01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but this is something that this has never been dealt with.

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01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if for rec counting certain things or

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01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 1>things that we're finally being acknowledged. Yes, Polaris and Bobby

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01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.720
<v Speaker 1>were a thing that was acknowledged in the original X Men,

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01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the animated series, but Polaris being part of the original

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01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:03.560
<v Speaker 1>team that I don't think that's ever really been acknowledged.

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01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That that that that's new to me.

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01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And Gene and Storm them being besties.

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01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so morephin brown suit Wolverine on a mission together.

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01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we'll talk about mister Wolverine a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, how do you think Cyclops likes a gene

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01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:24.000
<v Speaker 1>using the clause like that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I you know, this is a cool moment,

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01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and again different version of Cyclops and Gene here with

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01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:33.960
<v Speaker 2>with the outfits.

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01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this is the grant from the Grant Morrison era

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01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of the costumes, So it looks like we'll be getting

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01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.439
<v Speaker 1>getting those into this instead of going into the the

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01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.439
<v Speaker 1>normal comic book costumes. I mean yes, this was comic

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01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>book under saying, you know the comic e. Yeah, so

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01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:51.680
<v Speaker 1>we got our date July first, this is coming. I

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01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:55.439
<v Speaker 1>like Sunspot and Jubilee getting you know, Jubilee looking even more.

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01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh good, good visual of Forge and Bishop, you know, saying, hey,

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01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:05.760
<v Speaker 2>we we got to get the X Men back.

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01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And they're definitely staring at a time time machine, you know.

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01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, so there's gonna be some big things to pause.

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01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 2>For the young mister Summers you know again, he's he's

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01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a big part of this, and then we

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01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.079
<v Speaker 2>fast forward to him as Cable.

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01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep, now again Cable. As I love this new here

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<v Speaker 1>pause right here. I love the new version of like

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01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Storm's costume.

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01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I love though.

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01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:38.520
<v Speaker 1>But we go back a little bit till we see

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01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of colossus on the ground.

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01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.199
<v Speaker 2>So we get that, so we do know as it

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01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 2>will be.

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01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's already happened or it's coming up,

1392
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, colasses betting of our body and we'll maybe

1393
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:54.680
<v Speaker 1>see it coming up. That Magic is dead his sister.

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01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:58.199
<v Speaker 1>That does lead him down a path in the comics

1395
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to join Magneto. But we will see it's something along

1396
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:06.079
<v Speaker 1>those natures very shortly. But yeah, this is I love

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01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the version of Storms costume. That's I love that update.

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01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, yeah, we're gonna get a lot of teases. Okay, yes, Okable, Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. Now, remember Cable is would be is a

1400
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<v Speaker 1>Omega level mutant. He is not because his his telekinetic

1401
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:32.279
<v Speaker 1>power abilities are keeping the virus, the Legacy virus at bay.

1402
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So his telekinetic abilities are are massively reduced because they're

1403
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to save his life. His abilities so the techno

1404
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 1>organic virus. Okay, so yeah, Paul's right here. He goes

1405
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a little back as they're walking up. That's what I'm

1406
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to Okay, So right there. So yes, is we

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01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 1>get a memorial for a lot of respute and Colossus

1408
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is there. Colossus and mil got rogue on one side,

1409
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:04.560
<v Speaker 1>he got in Night Crawler, I believe. On the other

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01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that is Colosses in the middle. He is an acolyte

1411
01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Wardrobe he is. That was Magneto's group. You know, we

1412
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:16.680
<v Speaker 1>did see them in the the previous season. Now when

1413
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:21.359
<v Speaker 1>in the comics when his sister died of the Legacy virus,

1414
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that started Colossus on a very dark path that ended

1415
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:29.159
<v Speaker 1>up him joint betraying the meat uh the X Men.

1416
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>In in the comic series Fail Attractions, he was the

1417
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.800
<v Speaker 1>one who betrayed the X Men, joined in Magneto instead.

1418
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>In this version, we got Rogue and Sunspot doing that

1419
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:45.079
<v Speaker 1>betrayal in last season. But looks like a Colossus maybe

1420
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:47.920
<v Speaker 1>joining a newer version of the Acolytes in this one.

1421
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:49.279
<v Speaker 2>But that is that, that's.

1422
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 1>What you know, that's a that's an Acolyte suit that

1423
01:19:51.520 --> 01:20:01.600
<v Speaker 1>he's wearing. Yep, Jubilee crying. You know, Carl's going on

1424
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a journey. He does that from time to time.

1425
01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we we get a nice little visual here.

1426
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.159
<v Speaker 2>You've got Charles, You've got Bees, You've got Magneto, you've

1427
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>got night Crawler, You've got all these people just looking

1428
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:22.560
<v Speaker 2>up to this deity.

1429
01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:28.720
<v Speaker 1>The deity of all the apocalypse. He We're getting some

1430
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Savage Land, we get some Deadpool, we got more of

1431
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.039
<v Speaker 1>turning into Deadpool. Siloc looks to be kind of joining.

1432
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>This right there.

1433
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gotta love it. Now, we're not gonna get into

1434
01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the history of Silock. We're gonna says that's I don't

1435
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>know if they're gonna get that heady about this white

1436
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:47.319
<v Speaker 1>queen Cyclops.

1437
01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:52.760
<v Speaker 2>We saw our Angel of Death.

1438
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's our kay angel. But look who Nightcrawl is fighting.

1439
01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>He is fighting Exodus. Exodus is is and one of

1440
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Magneto's acolytes. He is a also an a mega level

1441
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>mutant that is a religious zealot like he has been

1442
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>around forever. He has telekinetic abilities at the omega level.

1443
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:17.319
<v Speaker 1>He can manipulate, he can do that. He not only

1444
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:20.239
<v Speaker 1>believes in the idea of mutants being a higher power,

1445
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:25.399
<v Speaker 1>he worships mutant leaders like Magneto later in the comics

1446
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Hope Summers, like as Messiah's. So he is also very formidable.

1447
01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Too much Cyclops in the show, too much, too much? Okay,

1448
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 1>now this right here, this has got to be an

1449
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.199
<v Speaker 1>ending shot of something when the team's all together at

1450
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:49.720
<v Speaker 1>this point. Who there facing apocalypse Horseman? I don't know,

1451
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>but this was a cool shot. I'm kind of surprised

1452
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>they revealed this.

1453
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.920
<v Speaker 2>H I am too. I have a feeling that there's

1454
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.039
<v Speaker 2>more to this. But yeah, you've got more. If you've

1455
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 2>got Cyclops, Gene, you've got Storm, you've got Wolverine, you've

1456
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>got four you've got.

1457
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Everyone in their own costumes sit there in cable Jubilee.

1458
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Sun Spots, I lock.

1459
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.279
<v Speaker 1>All people and I say, I'm with I'm with Travison's

1460
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I do love sun Spots kind of transformation. It is

1461
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:18.199
<v Speaker 1>very cool.

1462
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, Paul, Here here we go.

1463
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:24.880
<v Speaker 1>We're back Baby, an homage to Wolverine Number one by

1464
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Chris Claremont Frank Miller. Look at that number one, that

1465
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that poster, and I think I put the poster in

1466
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the notes. Since you you are now driving right now,

1467
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:38.159
<v Speaker 1>you want to pull up that link.

1468
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1469
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:41.039
<v Speaker 1>One thing they didn't put in the show, but we

1470
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have seen art four that we are going to see Wolverine.

1471
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:45.760
<v Speaker 2>No.

1472
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember, at the end of the show, at the end

1473
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>of the season one, Wolverine's aad nanteum was removed from

1474
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>his body, and so we're gonna have a time where

1475
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:01.239
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna have at an antium with it. But

1476
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that ending shot right there, when he pops his claws,

1477
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>it shimmers. So yeah, so right there, I'm not even

1478
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:13.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about the poster that shimmers there. But at the

1479
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>ending shot when he says We're back baby, he's got

1480
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:20.239
<v Speaker 1>his adamantium back. So but we have seen show art

1481
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that he is going to go into feral mode because

1482
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in the comics what happens is that when Wolverine, a

1483
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of things got revealed, like Wolverine's claws were bone.

1484
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That means he's had it for a while. WEAPONEX program

1485
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>did not give him the clause as many one felt

1486
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:41.159
<v Speaker 1>for years he had bone claus so he'd had this forever.

1487
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>What happens when he goes this faral mode is that

1488
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.159
<v Speaker 1>he goes beast like. And the reason that is is

1489
01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that his healing factor was keeping the admantium from poisoning

1490
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>him alive. So now and even Professor Exit in the

1491
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:01.319
<v Speaker 1>comics acknowledged, it's like he was never reaching his true form.

1492
01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So when he goes in this kind of beast like form,

1493
01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 1>his his mute mutation is no longer suppressing the toxins unheeded,

1494
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>his mutation naturally advances to a wild beast like state,

1495
01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>showing I don't know if you want to pull up

1496
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>something like what I'm talking about here, David. So people

1497
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>are listeners who are watching or watch later, it can

1498
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:21.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of see it, or you can look it up too.

1499
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But his adamantion was holding him back, his metal hindering

1500
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:31.279
<v Speaker 1>his body, so his senses are heightened, his smell, his hearing,

1501
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>his sight, like he goes into a permanent state of

1502
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>berserker rage, where he literally looks like an animal and

1503
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>also famously no nos as well, Yeah, have you found

1504
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>anything that can pull that up?

1505
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Especially kind of.

1506
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>The the new kind of mask he wears at one point.

1507
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>What may pull us up? I just found a good one. Yep.

1508
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>So we we are going to get a version of this.

1509
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not wrong. I'm pretty confident. I've seen you've seen

1510
01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the show art too that they that they've.

1511
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Come out with.

1512
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, there we go. So yeah, so we get

1513
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.079
<v Speaker 1>him looking like this, we are going to see this

1514
01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

1515
01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1516
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>The bone claws getting more awesome because they're jagged, they

1517
01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>get like longer. He's more lethal as this kind of

1518
01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>feral version of Wolverine.

1519
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>This is his true form, This is his.

1520
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.239
<v Speaker 1>True mutated form. When he gets the adamantium, the healing

1521
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>factor kind of puts him back in a different state.

1522
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Not everyone's favorite time of Wolverine, mind you, but I

1523
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 1>am excited to see how the show deals with this.

1524
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope we just don't go only like one or

1525
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>two episodes of dealing with this, and I hope it's

1526
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>like we build up to Wolverine getting his his Adam

1527
01:25:57.199 --> 01:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Mantium back because he does have it back in the comics.

1528
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Things like that. That happened, but it took some time.

1529
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but as we saw with the animated show, we

1530
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>got the Madeline Pryor storyline done in like two episodes.

1531
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.199
<v Speaker 2>That was a quick urright, and we're done. Heah, we're done.

1532
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:16.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited about this.

1533
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't like when it's dropping the day before we air,

1534
01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>but we'll deal with it.

1535
01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, not thankfully not eight forty minute episodes, so

1536
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that makes it a little bit better as opposed to

1537
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>what we've been doing with Spider Noir. But yeah, it's

1538
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.239
<v Speaker 2>the I'm gonna need them to pick a day, preferably Tuesday,

1539
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and make that just their official drop date. Yeah.

1540
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.239
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, like I said, thanks for coming back

1541
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to being intro. Sorry for the technical division. I'm glad

1542
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>it didn't cut the show.

1543
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:53.119
<v Speaker 2>At that point.

1544
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:56.079
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to deal with that for the For the

1545
01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>listeners of this Yeah, sorry, mister Stellon advanced for the

1546
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>edit you're gonna have to do tonight on this one.

1547
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a two to three minute cut where

1548
01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:08.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just it gets a little weirdo from my end,

1549
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it was like you froze and then I froze, and

1550
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 2>then it just it kicked me back out to the

1551
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>main menu and I all had to do is just

1552
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>log back in.

1553
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so, but but all right, So we're gonna take

1554
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:23.479
<v Speaker 1>our final ad break of the evening Solicitors. These ad

1555
01:27:23.479 --> 01:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>breaks help cape the deal to mid Alliance lights on.

1556
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>We don't get choose with ad to come on. They

1557
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>could be a bit loud to give it a three

1558
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>cup before they come on. Three two one, we'll be

1559
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>right back, all right, and we are back. So we

1560
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>did not have any put up the spidy signal. No

1561
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>one came up with questions.

1562
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>No big deal.

1563
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me pull up Factor fictions from the previous week.

1564
01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I've got them up. I pulled them up wall perfect.

1565
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh look at you helping me.

1566
01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Out while you were doing your things. So yeah, so

1567
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:02.520
<v Speaker 2>be great. So I will go through last week's Factor

1568
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>fiction and then it will be Chris's turn after that.

1569
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:11.079
<v Speaker 2>So Factor fiction number one, Foggy Well Returning Daredevil, Born

1570
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Again season three. That was one hundred percent fiction. So

1571
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>people not really agree with me on that. Factor fiction

1572
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>number two we will see Mannucci again. That is one

1573
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent fact. And then factor fiction number three Punisher

1574
01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>will have a cameo in season three of Daredevil Born Again. Now,

1575
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>when I looked at this before, there were votes on there,

1576
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>but now it's not showing anything. So we're just gonna

1577
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:46.159
<v Speaker 2>call that a fifty to fifty. It's doing the same

1578
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:50.399
<v Speaker 2>thing that it did a couple of weeks ago. But again,

1579
01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:54.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that we still get that. So those were

1580
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:58.239
<v Speaker 2>your factor fictions from last time, Chris, What do you

1581
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 2>have for us this time? All right?

1582
01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So Factor fiction number one, Spider Noir will lead into

1583
01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.479
<v Speaker 1>another live action Spider Man variant character being greenlit. So

1584
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I said, very I chose live action. We're going to

1585
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:16.279
<v Speaker 1>get a different Spider Man variant getting a live action series.

1586
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I am going to say fact on that, because somewhere

1587
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind I have hope slash

1588
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:26.159
<v Speaker 2>thoughts that we're going to get a Spider Man twenty

1589
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:27.399
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine love action.

1590
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm a I'm not a firm fact on this one.

1591
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be very interesting to see the reception

1592
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.399
<v Speaker 1>of this. It'll be interesting to see how this show ends,

1593
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know, seeing it, I will say there's a

1594
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 1>stronger possibility.

1595
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>With it, but say fact.

1596
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's not a hard fact, just because that Sony

1597
01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and Sony being Sony doesn't understand it. But I am,

1598
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>as we said, we're very impressed so far with the show,

1599
01:29:58.119 --> 01:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>even though I didn't get to live my last thoughts

1600
01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that All in all, I'm excited about seeing the last

1601
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.279
<v Speaker 1>four episodes of this series. I think it's meeting my

1602
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>expectations that I'm having fun with it.

1603
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Number.

1604
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Two kind of a little hanging fruit, but I'll put

1605
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:16.159
<v Speaker 1>it out there with us. Some recent changes going on

1606
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>at Marvel Studios, Brad wind Winbaum will succeed Kevin Feigi

1607
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.279
<v Speaker 1>when he retires from studios.

1608
01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say fact for that, because as it stands

1609
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>right now, he is, in my mind, the best and

1610
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:35.199
<v Speaker 2>most logical choice. Yeah.

1611
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I think the only thing that he will need some

1612
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:46.119
<v Speaker 1>more work with is that he has not led film.

1613
01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:48.399
<v Speaker 1>He has been an advisor on film, but I don't

1614
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>think he's kind of headed up a film project yet.

1615
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, like one of his new titles is the

1616
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>head of Franchise. Not sure necessarily that can go a

1617
01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:59.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of different directions. But I think since he's been

1618
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>doing well with Street any things like that, I would

1619
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>love to if he is the new Air apparent, get

1620
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 1>a more experience with the film side, because that's I

1621
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:10.039
<v Speaker 1>think the only big thing he's missing on the Marble

1622
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 1>side is a lot of experience with the film side.

1623
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think with the recent title change,

1624
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone, yeah, but he's he looks to be

1625
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the Air parent, but there's other other people that are in

1626
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:22.399
<v Speaker 1>the background. But I think he's the most forward facing

1627
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 1>of them all.

1628
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kathleen Kennedy, it doesn't have anything to do anymore.

1629
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kidding people, I'm kidding, please again.

1630
01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>One of the most successful producers, not just female producers,

1631
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but just successful producers in film in the Hollywood industry

1632
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.239
<v Speaker 1>of all time, like like or not. You cannot deny

1633
01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that the direction she.

1634
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Is a polarizing figure, but man, has she brought some

1635
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>some stuff to the table.

1636
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I think she's polarizing to the people who have other

1637
01:31:54.600 --> 01:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>issues at that point. All right, my final one. It's

1638
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>also a tough one for me to say because this

1639
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is what led to me leaving a collecting comics fort

1640
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.359
<v Speaker 1>all me collecting X Men for a while. All Right,

1641
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:16.119
<v Speaker 1>this is one of my first exits. I had two.

1642
01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what.

1643
01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>The second one was a little bit after that. Onslaught

1644
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 1>will be a major villain in a future season of

1645
01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>X Men ninety seven. Those watching, well, I'm gonna say

1646
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>no principle.

1647
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say no for principle because for.

1648
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Those that were watching aren't watching the video version of this.

1649
01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:43.159
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I said the word Onslaught, David put

1650
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:47.479
<v Speaker 1>his face on his hand on his face, like in disgust.

1651
01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>This is almost like these the the four issue uh

1652
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>series that should not be named arc of Spider Man

1653
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that we do not talk about on this.

1654
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Show quick PTSD.

1655
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, Onslaught is a long and because I'm such

1656
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:09.399
<v Speaker 1>an X Men fan, I do have the omni collections

1657
01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>of leading up to Onslaught, to Onslaught to the aftermath

1658
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:19.159
<v Speaker 1>of Onslaught. Not a well thought of series. It is

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01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a character that I'm just gonna leave as it is

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01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:22.439
<v Speaker 1>for those I don't know. I'm not going to ruin

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01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>who or what this character is. But this led to

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01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:28.199
<v Speaker 1>my first exit of collecting comics and X Men for

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01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.199
<v Speaker 1>a while. The second exit came for me after Avengers

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01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:34.239
<v Speaker 1>versus X Men. The aftermath of that killed my second

1665
01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>time a bit, but then I came back, and I'm

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01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>not saying all's forgiven, but I remember mistakes were made.

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01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Do I think, Okay, so you're gonna say principal side,

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01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say, no, I do have principles. But the

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01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:52.319
<v Speaker 1>certain things they are doing with this, I could see

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01:33:52.319 --> 01:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>them doing it. I could really see them doing it.

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01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say they're gonna do it right, but

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01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I can see there is a possibility of this. So

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01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say fat. Hurts my heart to say fact,

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01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:05.399
<v Speaker 1>but I the fact that they also said we already

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01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:07.359
<v Speaker 1>know a season three has been greenlit, We now know

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01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a season four is in pre production, moving forward with it,

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01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and the goals to have this X Men ninety seven

1678
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:20.199
<v Speaker 1>be a year to year series at this point, how

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01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>long it's gonna go on, Well, we know least is

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01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna go on for two more. But the fact that

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01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>they say they want this to be yearly, we're at

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01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>least we're more than like there gonna have a season five.

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01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So but all right, well we I will post those

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01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>on all the on our social media as always on Twitter,

1685
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>make sure you let your voice be heard with that.

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01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>And then let us come to a compa club with

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01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>age of Ultron issue ten which actually.

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01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this might be the know have a kind of

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01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:56.479
<v Speaker 2>ten point one A.

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01:34:56.680 --> 01:34:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I believe that we still have to go into for

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01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.119
<v Speaker 1>next time. Are you down for that?

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01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:04.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready?

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01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>All right? So all right, So the the conclusion of

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01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the main mini series of this, what do we get

1695
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>going on here?

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01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:21.159
<v Speaker 2>All right? So we get doctor Hank him and he's

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01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>in his lap, he's working and he is he gets

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01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:29.159
<v Speaker 2>a little ping and he goes, wait a minute, my

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01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>system doesn't make this noise, and it's a something pops

1700
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>up on his computer that says open your door, doctor,

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01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And he starts looking around because he's like, hey, I've

1702
01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.479
<v Speaker 2>got all this security in place. You could possibly get

1703
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>in here. We don't know. He's just there's a note

1704
01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>slid under his door. He opens the package and there's

1705
01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a screen that says play me, and we see invisible woman.

1706
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Sus Storm has delivered this and it is a message

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01:35:56.079 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>from himself saying it's me. You won't remember doing this.

1708
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.479
<v Speaker 2>We made it like that. You're not supposed to remember

1709
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:08.720
<v Speaker 2>this has all been timed, but you have to know

1710
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that everything that you thought could possibly go wrong, this

1711
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>is that moment that's going on with Ultron right now.

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01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Somewhere there is a group of heroes and they are

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01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>fighting a group of villains. You're not part of this

1714
01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>group of heroes, so don't even ask why you're not there,

1715
01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.439
<v Speaker 2>but just know you are where you're supposed to be.

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01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it cuts to this big fight of

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01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>villains that's going on. Ultron shows. You know, this villain's

1718
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to get this amazing power ends up being Ultron

1719
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>reignited the heroes or kind of waxing with his hammer

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01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>creates major destruction.

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01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>They're basically saying that, hey, well say this is it.

1723
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>This is the time. You know, they're trying to put

1724
01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in this kill code at this point, uploading this kill code.

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01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so Hank is talking to to Tony and

1726
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:08.479
<v Speaker 2>he's like, look, you guys, just just hold him off

1727
01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and I need you. I'm going to give you this

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01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>code and I need you to upload this code to

1729
01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>this coordinates and this is going to do what we

1730
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>need to do. So they are trying their best to

1731
01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>continue to fight and just stave off Ultron for a

1732
01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Thora is doing a lot of the heavy work,

1733
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>so is uh miss Marvel at this point Carol Danvers version,

1734
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and you know they're just Ultron is starting to figure out, Okay,

1735
01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>something's wrong. You guys have done something. You're adding this

1736
01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:46.439
<v Speaker 2>code to my infrastructure. And he's like, I feel my

1737
01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:51.159
<v Speaker 2>father's hand in this, Like, Father, I know this is you.

1738
01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You're the only one who can do this. It is

1739
01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:57.720
<v Speaker 2>so weird when he's like, father, I know it's you,

1740
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.439
<v Speaker 2>I know what you fathered goes down.

1741
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>He says, I hate you, father, I will make you

1742
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and then he dies.

1743
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you know they're they're trying to get this

1744
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>code up, but they are still getting their butts whooped

1745
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:13.640
<v Speaker 2>by him, and they're like, Hank, hurry up. And it's installing,

1746
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and it's installing, and then yeah, it finally as Ultras like,

1747
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm tired of this. I'm just going

1748
01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to destroy all of you. You serve you have no value,

1749
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>you serve no purpose. And then the last of the

1750
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:29.479
<v Speaker 2>code hits and he hits them with the I hate

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01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you father, I will make you and then he just

1752
01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:38.199
<v Speaker 2>collapses power down and Thorpe just goes straight through and

1753
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>bust him to pieces names for the head.

1754
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you get Sue and Wolverine kind of conference

1755
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>saying all right, you've got your kids back. You were back,

1756
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.399
<v Speaker 1>we saved the universe. But then we get this kind

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01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of like mind numbing thing going through all of the universe,

1758
01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:04.159
<v Speaker 1>and we see Wolverine coming back and like going through

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01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:08.039
<v Speaker 1>all the different versions of himself, Tony's going through it,

1760
01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Nova's going through it, like everyone's experiencing this, and like

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01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>reality looks to be breaking, and we get to this

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01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:23.199
<v Speaker 1>idea like we see Hank, Hank McCoy, Hank Pim, Tony talking.

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01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>About like basically.

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01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>They understand like what happened in that Wolverine and Seuxstorm

1765
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:34.159
<v Speaker 1>have broken reality and they don't know what the effects are.

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01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 1>We don't know how long this is effected, what's going

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01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to be effects of it. We kind of go to

1768
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the Ultimate Universe with Miles. We're swinging through. We see

1769
01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Galactus coming through. That's not their version of Galactus. That

1770
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:48.039
<v Speaker 1>was a very screwed up version of This is our

1771
01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Galactus at is now in the Ultimate Universe.

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01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:51.560
<v Speaker 2>We know what that leads to.

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01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>If you read comics. We now fan out and we

1774
01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:01.079
<v Speaker 1>see a character by the name of Angela coming back

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01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>into the fray. Good luck reading into the history of that.

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01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>That is a character. I believe rememory, my memory is

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01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>correct that it was a character created by Todd McFarlane

1778
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:14.039
<v Speaker 1>or no, no, no, not to a friend. No, no,

1779
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Neil Gamon, Neil Gamon. This was a Neil game in.

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01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Creation, if I'm not mistaken, created by both Neil Gamen

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01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and Tom McFarlane. Oh okay, so I was right up both.

1782
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say I did know that that it was

1783
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Todd mcfalland, and if you see the way that she

1784
01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>is drawn, you will go, yeah, that's a Todd mcfalland character. Yep.

1785
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:37.760
<v Speaker 1>So, And so that's how we kind of end, like

1786
01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going to happen. This doesn't aid neatly.

1787
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:42.800
<v Speaker 1>This leads to other events that are coming down the line.

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01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But we will finish up when David returns in two

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01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:52.439
<v Speaker 1>weeks with age of Ultron ten A dot I you

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01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>know ten Ai. So we'll conclude with that. Yep so,

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01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But all right, and we'll give our thoughts on that

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01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>at the point. So all right, Well, started late because

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01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of technical issues got bumped off for technical issues at

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01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that point. Glad the show did not completely cut off

1795
01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:11.359
<v Speaker 1>because I would not have wanted to deal with that

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01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of nightmare. So thank you all for dealing with

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01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>us with this. For those of you that are listening

1798
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to actually not watching it, you'll just say what happened,

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01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice it. Travis Nell is amazing with editing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gon put that on the record of that one.

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01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for an apologies upfront for that. But yeah,

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01:41:31.199 --> 01:41:34.199
<v Speaker 1>so we will see I will see you next week

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01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>with mister Hines joining us for the final four episodes

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01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of Spider Noir, and David will be back non live

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01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>for episode three hundred and we'll be hopefully back the

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01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>following week live. But yeah, safe travels to you, and

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01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, tell people they can follow you.

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<v Speaker 2>You can follow me on all socials at the Phantom.

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<v Speaker 2>As part of our wrestling showed the Game. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a show coming up this Sunday. We will be going

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<v Speaker 2>live after clat ww's Clash in the Castle. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>place a little bit earlier than our normal pay per

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<v Speaker 2>exact time when it's go, So look out for the

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<v Speaker 2>gig first socials to look out for my socials and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you can follow me in all the socials

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01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>at Chris Balga you can. What else can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You can also you can flatch me. Jake and I

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<v Speaker 1>are from The Brave and the Boys. We're getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to record. Actually time of recording tomorrow night. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this today Friday, our next news August, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in August July. Yeah, I think it's August solicits

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the new Solictens sets. It drop getting

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<v Speaker 1>our picks that points to check that out when it

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<v Speaker 1>does drop on the Brave and the Boys channel soon

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<v Speaker 1>you can catch You can catch the podcast, follow the

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01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.199
<v Speaker 1>the show at marvel a Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to tweet email if you want tovide feedback. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>send those questions in for episode three hundred again, we

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01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>are recording Wednesday night, not live, so get those questions in.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all for watching us in the chat, Thank you

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01:43:42.960 --> 01:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>for watching us live. Stay safe out there, everyone, and

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01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>a stand the man would say, fix elsier, true believers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, David, what do you got for? Post credits tonight?

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01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>All right?

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01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Post credits discussion. According to Variety, Stanley's voice and likeness

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01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:02.479
<v Speaker 2>have been licensed for use with AI. According to a

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01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>report by Variety, Marvel Comics has long resurrected iconic characters

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01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>for second action. Now eleven Labs is doing the same

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01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.439
<v Speaker 2>for Marvel's most famous creator, stan Lee in a sense.

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01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:19.720
<v Speaker 2>The AI Audio company on Wednesday said it struck an

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01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>expansive deal with stan Lee Universe, the joint venture between

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01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Genius Brands International and Pal Entertainment, to add the late

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01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Marvel Comic writers, voice and likeness to the eleven Labs

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01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Iconic marketplace. It's collective of celebrity personality, voices, and likeness

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01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:44.359
<v Speaker 2>is that companies can license for commercial use. Now, this

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01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>has been a thing with some other people in the

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01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:52.720
<v Speaker 2>past getting their their voices license and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and this company is known for striking deals with people

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<v Speaker 2>in including Matthew McConaughey, Michael Caine and other celebrities. Think

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<v Speaker 2>they have the rights to John Wayne and some others

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to use. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Stanley's no longer with us, so he can't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a say over what happens with his his voice,

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01:45:23.560 --> 01:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>image and likeness. So my question is what does this

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<v Speaker 2>look like for future appearances of the Marvel icon and

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<v Speaker 2>what are your overall thoughts on something like this when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the Departed and their voice and likeness

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<v Speaker 2>being used in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a fan of AI that in that kind of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen like they're putting him in complic art.

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01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>They have free rein to use it in different ways,

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01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like when you start saying, oh, yeah, they can use

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01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the likeness and when they're AI is pulling is creating art,

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01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they're stealing from other artists in different ways, Like they're

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01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:08.119
<v Speaker 1>taking things that they have access to and do their credit.

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<v Speaker 1>It is new, and so with that in mind, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting compensated with that the artists that they're using

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<v Speaker 1>it for. I don't care what they say right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because if it's taking from the internet, the one's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Stanley estate.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not alive. There's been so many different things of

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<v Speaker 1>who's like, who's benefiting from this. They're trying to use

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01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>his words to justify this. At this point. The end

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01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of Stanley's life was very fraught with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people not treating him well. The people that should have didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand where they say like, oh, new generation can

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<v Speaker 1>get to experience Stanley and things like that, when they've

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<v Speaker 1>got those hologram ones of Stanley that didn't come off well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think many people who got to experience that

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily thought that was great. I don't care much for

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<v Speaker 1>it period. I don't want I don't think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to have stan Lee appear using AI in future movies

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. I don't like it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to come off well. I don't think it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems to be a cash grab for someone and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to benefit the right people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't care much for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I read the story. It made me feel icky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same same here. Not not not a fan, especially

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01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:39.479
<v Speaker 2>when it is now licensed for for sale and families

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01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:42.359
<v Speaker 2>or you know, those closest to the creator no longer

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<v Speaker 2>had any control over it. This sold this off in

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<v Speaker 2>is free use now. So yeah not definitely not not

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<v Speaker 2>a fan and don't like this direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so unfortunate, you know, not happy post credits. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a story that well worth talking about. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you all next week for the final

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<v Speaker 1>four episodes of Spider Man Noir with mister Hines. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see you. You will experience episode three weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>see who are their special guests are going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, we will see you all very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy your weekend. Thank you, thank you all for dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the technical difficulties we had to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with tonight, and really appreciate you all and see you

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<v Speaker 1>all soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye bye.
