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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years in the rain, fighting for truth, justice, and

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<v Speaker 1>the American Way.

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<v Speaker 2>A most gorgeous afternoon. Glad you are here. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the most exciting times in American history to be alive.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about what we've had already right up

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<v Speaker 2>until September twelfth, twenty twenty four. But what is to

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<v Speaker 2>come between now and election day. It is mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to open it today with President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, it came out and he said there

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be a rematch, not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a second debate. Do you think he's right or

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<v Speaker 2>wrong on that? Do you think it's going to help

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<v Speaker 2>or hurt him? Now? Harris already doing what I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he and you expected, which is sort of building her

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<v Speaker 2>campaign around it right now. See, he's chicken, he's afraid,

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<v Speaker 2>he me it's in a mission. I crushed him all

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<v Speaker 2>this and that, so you know, she'll obviously beat that

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<v Speaker 2>drum for a long time to come. But right, a

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<v Speaker 2>wrong decision by the president. So that is the breaking

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<v Speaker 2>news right now. Let's come out with that eight five

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<v Speaker 2>five four zero five eight two five five the number

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<v Speaker 2>great texts coming in, So I want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>text today. But I have to say that to me,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great developments of this campaign is and

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the most fun things in a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time, right, how it has become a true

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<v Speaker 2>cultural phenomenon now, which by the way, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>help Trump. And i'd like you're taking that, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you disagree, but how do you top this? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things, right, It is involuntary, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>way we're created. This just now has probably burrowed into

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<v Speaker 2>your brain and you will never stop hearing this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a dramatic prelude, but once we get there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's well worth the wait. Yeah, wea the cat.

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<v Speaker 3>They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. Eat the cat,

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<v Speaker 3>eat the cat. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats,

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<v Speaker 3>eat the cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Eat eat the cat. They're eating the dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat the cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if you see the video and the video

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<v Speaker 2>is cat sweeping there social media at this point it originated,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. I think we see the thief

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<v Speaker 2>of elopin here. But yeah, so it's all over social

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<v Speaker 2>It started on TikTok, and the basic demo there are

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<v Speaker 2>some variations, is it's usually an attractive young lady who's

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<v Speaker 2>dancing to this song while mimicking the words, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>this is just if you're not in a social media

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of a template that's been going around

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<v Speaker 2>for years now, where you have people dance to someone

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<v Speaker 2>else speaking the words. And this thing is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many millions of views it has right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I think it helps Trump in the

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<v Speaker 2>end is listen, whether or not these stories are true

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<v Speaker 2>about folks here illegally eating cats and ducks from the

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<v Speaker 2>park and things like that, Whether or not it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>it caused attention to an undeniable reality, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>the decision of Biden and Harris to just open that

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<v Speaker 2>border and let everybody in without vetting has brought, along

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<v Speaker 2>with the good people, has brought a lot of really,

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<v Speaker 2>really bad, dangerous people. So, whether or not cats and

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<v Speaker 2>dogs are getting killed by some of the people here illegally,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly women are and women are being raped. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is that the brutal, completely unacceptable reality that every American

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<v Speaker 2>is aware of so you've got this kind of funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing about eating cats and dogs and everything else, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's a delivery system for this much more serious

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<v Speaker 2>and important message. So eight five five four zer a

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about that. I can't wait to get your

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<v Speaker 2>take on whether Trump a good move or bad move

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<v Speaker 2>to say no second debate word out there. Don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's true or not, but all over social media

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<v Speaker 2>that there's going to be an ABC whistleblower coming forward

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<v Speaker 2>making some revelations about things that happened at ABC before

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<v Speaker 2>they rig this debate, engaged in this blatant election interference,

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<v Speaker 2>and committed journalistic malpractice. So we'll keep you posted and

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<v Speaker 2>see if anything comes of that. Some more poll results

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<v Speaker 2>out today that we have to talk about first, because

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<v Speaker 2>I like to put a smile on your face. Second,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it leads to this very large question of

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<v Speaker 2>all of the harm that was done to the Harris

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<v Speaker 2>campaign as a result of that debate the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to get into that and start to

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<v Speaker 2>break that down with you. Let's go to Linda in Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the dan Kaplas show. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>My oppinion, I think that Trump should do another debate

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<v Speaker 5>what's Camelo, but only on Fox Snooze. I No, she

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<v Speaker 5>won't do it, so she would be the chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Well but thank you, Linda, because a lot of smart

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<v Speaker 2>people are saying that. But let's break that down. If

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<v Speaker 2>Trump comes out and says, Okay, I'll do another debate,

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<v Speaker 2>but only on Fox News, at that point she says, see,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a chicken. He'll only do it on Fox News,

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<v Speaker 2>so that, you know, I think still leaves them with

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<v Speaker 2>that issue. But my other concern, Linda is wait a second.

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<v Speaker 2>This race is arking in his favor right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>what Harris is incredibly fearful of is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>now there's an open playing field than the VP debate,

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<v Speaker 2>which is certain to go in the GOP's favor. There's

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<v Speaker 2>an open playing field now between today and election day,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump gets to fill that with all this video

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<v Speaker 2>of harrising, all these insane things which prove that she's

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy, wild eyed radical. So why would you want

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<v Speaker 2>to why would you want to distract from that? That's

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<v Speaker 2>why she wants the second debate, right for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. She really needs it, but she also wants

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<v Speaker 2>to to fill up all of that space with something

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<v Speaker 2>other than a constant focus on who she really is.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I understand all that, but I still think it

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<v Speaker 5>would be the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Linda, sure appreciate that call eight five five

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<v Speaker 2>for zero five eight two five five. I think Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is a great in a great position now to just say,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second. I have done two debates, two debates

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<v Speaker 2>against two different candidates. I knocked the first guy out.

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<v Speaker 2>That should have been the end of the race, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But then they have some back room deal and the

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<v Speaker 2>cabal replaces him and installs her. And then I do

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<v Speaker 2>a second debate on her terms. And guess what I

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<v Speaker 2>come out of that debate ahead. I come out of

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<v Speaker 2>that debate ahead. She doesn't gain in the polls. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she wants a third debate, give me a break, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, let her go out and do a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of interviews. You know, it's stop hiding from the press,

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and answer these tough questions. So now

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's in a strong position to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is an extraordinarily wise move tactically, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know what Clint said, right, A man's got to

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<v Speaker 2>know his limitations, every single one of us. We have

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<v Speaker 2>our strengths and we have our weaknesses. That format is

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<v Speaker 2>not his strength, that's not his fault. He has some

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<v Speaker 2>incredible strengths that most people don't have. They just don't

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<v Speaker 2>fit that format in particular. And for whatever reason, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to do traditional debate preps. So that's fine, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>be really realistic about where your best arenas are and

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<v Speaker 2>go out and operate in those arenas, particularly after you've

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<v Speaker 2>already debated twice here. And he does not get enough

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<v Speaker 2>credit for the good stuff he did on Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>See that. This is the amazing phenomenon, right, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>so easy to get caught up in. There is so

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<v Speaker 2>much frustration, and I share it, believe me, because President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump missed so many opportunities the other night. He had

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<v Speaker 2>so many openings he didn't take. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>she missed bigger opportunities. She missed her one and only opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll get to that in a second. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time Trump missed all those opportunities, he did

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<v Speaker 2>some really important things very well. You know, repeatedly hammering

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<v Speaker 2>on immigration, great distinction when it came to foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, etc. He did some of those things very well.

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<v Speaker 2>He also avoided any major gaffs, and I I thought

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<v Speaker 2>his temperament, you know, overall, was very good under those

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly difficult circumstances. So I think that all the good

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<v Speaker 2>stuff gets lost because of the frustration over the missed openings.

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<v Speaker 2>But then so many people are failing to consider she

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<v Speaker 2>had one shot. This was her one shot to address

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<v Speaker 2>the core concern of those undecided voters, which is, who

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<v Speaker 2>the hell is she? What does she really believe? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>can I believe she's really changed these positions? So you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta tell me, comly, you got it, tell me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you change the positions? What are your positions now?

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<v Speaker 2>But above all, why did you change? She had one

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to talk to the American people about that, and

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<v Speaker 2>she blew it. She never addressed that, She never explained it.

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<v Speaker 2>Close second is the fact she never explained what she

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<v Speaker 2>says she would really do now. So ironically right, the

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<v Speaker 2>so called moderators who protected her the entire time literally

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<v Speaker 2>jumped into the ring and debated themselves with Trump to

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<v Speaker 2>protect her. They protected her to the point where she

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<v Speaker 2>never did what she had to do to win this race. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the reason they did that is they know

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<v Speaker 2>that had they not protected her the way they did,

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<v Speaker 2>she would have collapsed. I mean she literally she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been quite as bad as Biden, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been close. There would have been a collapse if

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<v Speaker 2>she had not been dishonestly protected the way she was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you specifics when we come back eight five

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<v Speaker 2>But the lead question, because it's the breaking news this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump says there's not going to be another debate.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done two. He's not going to do a third.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or wrong. You think that is going to help

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<v Speaker 2>or hurt him. You're on the Dan Kapla show. This

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<v Speaker 2>is on CBS, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I talked to twenty voters that one of

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<v Speaker 4>them was undecided. Wow, Michigan and headlines come and go.

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<v Speaker 4>But let me tell you, this support for former President

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is real and resilient. I encountered that everywhere I went.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's something the Harris campaign knows recognized as the

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<v Speaker 4>fact in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's CBS post debate and a Michigan pull out

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<v Speaker 2>today and it says it's post debate. But I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it takes about a week to really see that the

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<v Speaker 2>Poles settle in after one of these. But it had

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<v Speaker 2>Trump up a points. So yeah, and think about the

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<v Speaker 2>panic in the Harris camp right because she cannot have

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<v Speaker 2>a better night. I mean, she was totally protected. She

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<v Speaker 2>missed a lot of opportunities. She cannot have a better night.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the Poles don't move substantially in her favor now,

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<v Speaker 2>it can only mean one thing. Okay, the American people

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<v Speaker 2>see it and they say, nah, to the phone lines,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to Mead Colorado. Tom, you're on the Dan Kaplish'll.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome, Hi, Dan, How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Living the dream? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>You and I rarely disagree, but your take on the

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so at least you're in an open minded Tom. Yeah. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>course he did it. But but we've also got to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, we could sit here together and come

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're the man in the arena the way

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<v Speaker 2>up against the so called moderators who are actually Harris

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<v Speaker 2>comfort of my man cave. So let's say that you've

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<v Speaker 2>I would expect the best candidate on his or her

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<v Speaker 2>best night to maybe get five verse six of those in.

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<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, that the fact he whiffed on almost

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<v Speaker 2>all of them is frustrating. But Tom, he did so

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<v Speaker 2>many things well you're not giving him credit for, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's showing up in the polls right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how does he extend his lead in the CNN poll

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'll tell you that's true, and you're right, But

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<v Speaker 6>I really you know, he had a perfect opportunity to

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<v Speaker 6>more other investments, you know, all the private equity crowd

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and listen, we could go through a long

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<v Speaker 2>sat down with my wife, she could give you a long,

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<v Speaker 2>long list of opportunities I missed, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>or things I could have done better. And she's very supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't mean to make it sound that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure your wife could do the same, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>The debate, did she make it good?

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<v Speaker 2>We were in opposite states, and and she is such

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<v Speaker 2>a caring and loving partner that she had the good

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<v Speaker 2>sense to not even text me during the debate because yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but but no, Tom, I mean, he did so many

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<v Speaker 2>things well and that's the only way you can explain, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that that he is not losing ground after

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you're right there. I mean, you know, a

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna move it needily either way, which is a

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<v Speaker 6>relief that that makes me feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>But doesn't that go back Tom to who actually won

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<v Speaker 2>the debate? Because how are we going to define winning?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me when you're running for president that

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<v Speaker 2>the only way you define winning is did you do

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<v Speaker 2>in that debate what you needed to do to win

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<v Speaker 2>the presidency? He did. Part of it was avoiding gaffes,

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<v Speaker 2>that matter most to voters. And and she didn't because

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<v Speaker 2>she hasn't moved the needles. So how do you say

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<v Speaker 2>she won when she didn't do what she needed to

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<v Speaker 2>win the presidency and he did. Now, the fact he

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<v Speaker 2>had all these missed opportunities, Yeah, he could have absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>buried her, He could have bidonized her. That race could

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<v Speaker 2>be obviously over in everybody's mind. They could be looking

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<v Speaker 2>for ways to replace her now. But the fact is

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<v Speaker 2>he did what he needed to do to win the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't. How is that not a win?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, you know we can always see on this November.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, we will. That's it's going to be so

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<v Speaker 2>quick right now, Thank you, Tom, sure to appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Dean and Arvada. You're on the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Kapla show. Welcome, Hey Dan, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to bring up one point. I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>why the GUP seems to just shoot themselves in the foot.

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<v Speaker 8>Why don't they come up with an unconventional debate scenario

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<v Speaker 8>where they I'm bringing my moderator, you pick yours. We'll

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<v Speaker 8>have great questions that our moderators can come up with

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<v Speaker 8>from each team. And I don't care if you know

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<v Speaker 8>the questions. Obviously they're gonna know him, but they won't

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<v Speaker 8>know the opposites about moderators questions. And then it's fair.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't have to leave.

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<v Speaker 6>Saying that was not moderated for you know, Trump could

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<v Speaker 8>You know I can't even call Yeah, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, but tell me, why do you want a

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, at this point, at this point, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>He had no choice. O he's on Dean. He had

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<v Speaker 2>no choice. Remember, at the time this debate was agreed to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, after Harris was installed, she had all this momentum,

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<v Speaker 2>she was on this sugar high, her numbers kept going up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was being chilling to the debate. He had no leverage,

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<v Speaker 2>he had no bargaining power. It was either agreed to

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<v Speaker 2>He had no choice. She had the leverage. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>worm is turned. Now he has the leverage. She desperately

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<v Speaker 2>needs his second debate because she didn't get done what

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, I totally I agree with you, But

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<v Speaker 8>the thing is, I mean you can't just say, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>you win the debate.

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<v Speaker 7>We're not in.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like it was three on one and we all

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<v Speaker 8>know that I listened to your show every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well thank you, but and I've got to go nowday.

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<v Speaker 2>I do apologize after this hard break, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of winning and losing, don't the voters get

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<v Speaker 2>to decide that? And all indications in the polls are

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<v Speaker 2>right now she did not get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>Eat the cat, Eat the cat. They're eating the dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>they're eating the cats eat the cat, the cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally a song I can dance to eight five five

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<v Speaker 2>ur zero five A two five to five the number.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's not nice right there? You can text us

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<v Speaker 2>DA in five seven, seventh thirty nine. Hey, the breaking

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<v Speaker 2>news this afternoon that we're getting your take on fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>text on both sides of this. Is President Trump's decision,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a brilliant one not to agree to a

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<v Speaker 2>third debate. So we'll get back to that in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But have the great opportunity to talk to George Brockler here,

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<v Speaker 2>candidate for DA in Colorado's new twenty third George, have

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<v Speaker 2>you been officially declared the winner yet or is there

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<v Speaker 2>still a technicality out there to be fulfilled?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, no, there there's thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 7>on DAN. No, there's a there's a candidate on the

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<v Speaker 7>other side presenting a Democrat thing. We had our first

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<v Speaker 7>and only debate on the same night as the presidential

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<v Speaker 7>No first, no planned our first, I swear no. It

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<v Speaker 7>was a Douglas Elbert Bar association. It was scheduled like

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<v Speaker 7>two months ago, and then the presidential one dropped on us,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was still greatly attendant. It only overlapped ours

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<v Speaker 7>went to about seven thirty or so. But people game,

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<v Speaker 7>it was packed.

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<v Speaker 2>Really it was impressed. Yeah, that's impressed. But wow, So Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're split and he'll be the new DA in

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas and has a column out. I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with you about, you know, about how revolving door

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<v Speaker 2>makes sentencing a first in Colorado. But before we go there, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>what everybody's water cooler done now is the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 2>the debate. So your take on who won, who lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump right or wrong to say no to numeral three.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I listened to you every day and your

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<v Speaker 7>analysis always makes me think because your perspective is one

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<v Speaker 7>that I don't take when I'm sitting there watching it,

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<v Speaker 7>but it resonates with me. My takeaway was this wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>game setter match for Kamala Harris. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 7>she won any votes there. I think the disparity in

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<v Speaker 7>performance was based on the fact that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>anticipating that ABC would come to her rescue and she'd

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<v Speaker 7>be uber prepared and that's just not Trump's style and

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<v Speaker 7>all that stuff. The disparity in terms of the perception,

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<v Speaker 7>I think made it okay for some who were like,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if I can vote for her, and

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<v Speaker 7>now feel like I think I can vote for her,

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<v Speaker 7>And maybe it provided a little bit of energy to

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<v Speaker 7>the youth. Do I think it makes a difference in

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<v Speaker 7>the overall outcome of the election? I don't. This feels

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<v Speaker 7>a lot like twenty sixteen to me, Dan, this feels like, ye,

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<v Speaker 7>We're gonna go to bed at night on that Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 7>and Trump pulled this thing out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's right in the comparisons to sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>because Trump had a horrible first debate in sixteen against

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton, still the most watched debate in American history,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have these numbers yet, and still pulled it

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<v Speaker 2>out and again pulled it out, what three weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>the Access Hollywood tapes came out. So and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he did a lot of good things Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>He had all those missed opportunities that frustrated all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he did a lot of good things.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any major gaffs or anything close to

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<v Speaker 2>a major gaff.

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<v Speaker 7>What about you, No, it's the major gaff. You know

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<v Speaker 7>the problem with Trump if he has an achilles heel,

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<v Speaker 7>if he is prone to sometimes chasing things that you

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<v Speaker 7>and I would sit there and go, dude, don't take

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<v Speaker 7>don't chase that. You've got all the policies, you've got

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<v Speaker 7>all the past performance, don't chase the small stuff. But

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<v Speaker 7>if you throw out a yarn ball man, he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to try to bat it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other fact that listen you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it sixteen all over again. I agree with you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And big part of sixteen was a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks voting you normally don't vote, and then massive turnout

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<v Speaker 2>among the folks who do support him. Because we all know,

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<v Speaker 2>right you've been in the arena you are now that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about who tells upholstery. I prefer that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's who cares enough to go out and vote. And

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<v Speaker 2>the intensity of support for Trump, I think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to wharf that of Harris, particularly among the folks who

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<v Speaker 2>don't normally vote. So I think part of what we

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<v Speaker 2>saw the other night was meant to, you know, continue

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<v Speaker 2>to appeal to those folks who you know aren't looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the typical message. Right, But what about this decision?

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<v Speaker 7>She again her willingness, her willingness to openly avoid any questions,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you didn't really need to have her there. She

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<v Speaker 7>could have recorded her answers in advance and just they

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<v Speaker 7>could have asked well, and she could have pressed like

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<v Speaker 7>press one, press three. I mean, these are all the

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<v Speaker 7>rehearsed answers. She didn't really ever respond to the things

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<v Speaker 7>about crime, is the economy better today than it was?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, none of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and tell me if you agree with me and

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<v Speaker 2>this George Brockler with us. I was telling folks yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>My belief is that you know, right now, voters believe

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<v Speaker 2>candidates on both sides lie. And I compare the swing

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<v Speaker 2>state undecided voters right now to jurors because they know

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<v Speaker 2>they know everybody wants something from them. So when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>comes in who wants something from you, just like a juror,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hearing arguments from both sides in the trial,

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<v Speaker 2>and the person who wants something from you is not

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<v Speaker 2>willing to answer a direct question, a really important direct question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kamala Harris hurt herself gravely by not being

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<v Speaker 2>willing to answer these really critical direct questions George. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Jake Tapper on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Vice President Harris began the debate by punting the first

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<v Speaker 4>question on the economy.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you believe Americans are better off than they were

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<v Speaker 6>four years ago?

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<v Speaker 9>So I was raised as a middle class kid, and

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<v Speaker 9>I am actually the only person on this stage who

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<v Speaker 9>has a plan that is about lifting up the middle

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<v Speaker 9>class and working people of America.

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<v Speaker 2>They went on from there, despite Yeah, he's disgusted with

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<v Speaker 2>the George and he's disgusted rrect because the people on

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<v Speaker 2>the land, you have to want to win this race,

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<v Speaker 2>and they know that if Harris won't answer these direct questions,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to turn off voters. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 2>tried so many cases, you know, hasn't it been your

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<v Speaker 2>experience that when you're cross examining a witness and they

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<v Speaker 2>will not answer a pivotal direct question, it's better for

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<v Speaker 2>you than any answer they could have given.

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<v Speaker 7>It is, especially when the jury picks up on the

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<v Speaker 7>fact and sometimes it requires a follow up question, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's where Mirr and his colleague failed America. You ask

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<v Speaker 7>the question a second time, you get the non answer,

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<v Speaker 7>and then jurors are like, I get it. They're not

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<v Speaker 7>going to ever give us the answer.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the fascinating things in this and you've hit

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<v Speaker 7>this pretty hard, is CNN. What is going on over

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<v Speaker 7>at CNN that like, you don't expect this. And I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not just talking about from Jay Capper. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 7>the other stuff you put on, Like who got in

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<v Speaker 7>CNN's head and said, did the CNN feel like they

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<v Speaker 7>were rejected by the Harris team? And so they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll show you or what this new birth of journalism?

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<v Speaker 7>What's that about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I think it's about, George is that I

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<v Speaker 2>think many on the left now see that the worst

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<v Speaker 2>thing that could happen to the left, which now has

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party as a tool, is for her to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if she wins, she is going to be so

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<v Speaker 2>terrible in the job. It's going to get them wiped

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<v Speaker 2>out in the mid terms. It's going to get them

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<v Speaker 2>wiped out in twenty eight and all this supposed great

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<v Speaker 2>young talent they have is going to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>bench for eight years. And here's the kicker, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not getting They're not getting any Scotus appointments in

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<v Speaker 2>the next four years, and so they're going to suffer

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<v Speaker 2>all this damage through her terrible presidency without even getting

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<v Speaker 2>a Supreme Court pick.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm worried. I mean, I worry about Look, there are

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<v Speaker 7>so many issues across the globe, but the sleeping giant

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<v Speaker 7>over there, at least in terms of perception for Americans

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<v Speaker 7>is China and the South China Sea and had one.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, who do you want behind the White House desk? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>when that thing breaks loose in twenty twenty seven, because

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<v Speaker 7>that's coming, oh man, coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I think that's why so many on the

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<v Speaker 2>left now do not want her to win, because they

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<v Speaker 2>know she's going to be a disaster and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to damage the party for a long time to come. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can you stick around for another segment? I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to your great column, revolving Door, make sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>a farce in Colorado, George Brockler with me. You're on

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 9>Former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congresswoman Liz Cheney are

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<v Speaker 9>supporting me as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this is like exhibit Z right, just just

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest presidential race of our lifetime. So you've got

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<v Speaker 2>wild eyed, far left wing radical Kamala Harris up there

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<v Speaker 2>bragging about support from Dick Cheney right, and George before

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<v Speaker 2>we get to your great column about revolving door sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. It's another area where I think Trump won

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<v Speaker 2>the other night was when it comes to war in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about it. We've got the Republican running

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<v Speaker 2>as the peace candidate, and we've got the Democrat running

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<v Speaker 2>as the war candidate. And we've got the Democrat saying

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Cheney supports me, and Donald Trump saying, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>risking a nuclear World War three. So it's fascinating I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and listen, I don't. I think Putin is Satan on

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<v Speaker 2>Earth and he's raping and pillaging Ukraine and he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get away with it. But I don't think America wants

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<v Speaker 2>to sign a blank check now for an open ended

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it takes to defeat Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Trump politically right now, is on the right

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<v Speaker 2>side of that issue.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh well, listen, I don't want to see a single

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<v Speaker 7>American boot inside Ukraine that that would be ridiculous. But

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<v Speaker 7>I'll say this, the idea that maybe your European partners,

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<v Speaker 7>who you man, we carry the lion share of the effort.

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<v Speaker 7>If they could just chip in a couple extra bucks

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<v Speaker 7>here and there, how much more could we do or

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<v Speaker 7>how much of the burden could we take off of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 7>Why is that such a controversial thing for Trump to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think it is. That's why I think,

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<v Speaker 2>politically is on the right side of this issue. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want Putin to get his way. I do want

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine to prevail. But right now the Harris position, the

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<v Speaker 2>Harris position is whatever it takes to defeat Putin. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you're talking about whatever it takes against the nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>power versus a guy who's saying, hey, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>the war to end. I just want to make peace.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to benefit him greatly come election date.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, George, tell us about this Colin. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>those who don't know, George was a great DA in

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<v Speaker 2>o Repo and he's running for DA in Douglas. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your website?

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<v Speaker 7>Just George Brockler dot com Traditional Healing.

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<v Speaker 2>How much did you pay a consultant for that.

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<v Speaker 7>It was available.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, so tell folks about this revolving door sentencing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so here's what I did. I was asked, what

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<v Speaker 7>are some things that Colorado could do, Colorado voters could

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<v Speaker 7>do to try to make up for what the legislature

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<v Speaker 7>and policts have done to our criminal justice system. And

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<v Speaker 7>one of the things a bunch of us agreed on

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<v Speaker 7>is we need to have real truth and sentencing right now.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't right now. For folks that don't know this,

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<v Speaker 7>the law says on paper that if you're a violent criminal,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to serve seventy five percent of your sentence

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<v Speaker 7>before you're parole eligible. But once you factor in good time,

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<v Speaker 7>earn time, didn't rape my cellmate this week time, it

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<v Speaker 7>actually functions more like forty three percent before you're parole eligible,

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<v Speaker 7>and you get about eighteen months off of that at

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<v Speaker 7>the back end to get into community correction. This is

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<v Speaker 7>fake sentencing and it hasn't made us safer. We have

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<v Speaker 7>one of the highest recidivism rates in the country. And

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<v Speaker 7>so you know, with this Truth and Sentencing proposal, this

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<v Speaker 7>one twelve, it's on the ballot, it's an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 7>say all right legislature and POLIS and the police appointed

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<v Speaker 7>Parole Board. If you don't get it, we do. We're

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<v Speaker 7>going to change the law to mandate that violent felons

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<v Speaker 7>must serve eighty five percent of their time before their paroles.

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<v Speaker 7>So I do this deep dive into all the numbers

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<v Speaker 7>that are out there, and I don't think people have

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<v Speaker 7>any idea that even though there's been a twenty eight

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<v Speaker 7>percent increase in violent crime over the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 7>we have a lower prison population now than we did

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<v Speaker 7>at that time. We have two thousand less prisoners today

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<v Speaker 7>than we did just three years or five years ago

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<v Speaker 7>in July twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It explains crime, the less crime.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not of the crime, it's just we're not sending

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<v Speaker 7>people to prisoner keeping them there.

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<v Speaker 2>George, Where can people learn more about this because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's been on the radar. Did this ballot measure?

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<v Speaker 7>No? Yeah? Yeah? First off, Advanced Colorado Michael Fields, who's

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<v Speaker 7>a buddy, and KBB Christy Burton Brown have been great

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<v Speaker 7>at getting this thing up on the ballot. You can

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<v Speaker 7>go to the Advanced Colorado dot org website. You can

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<v Speaker 7>also just Google Gazette and this column revolving door prison

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<v Speaker 7>and the statistics that I put in here I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>expect to see. But the bottom line is the ACLU

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<v Speaker 7>since about twenty fifteen twenty eighteen has dominated the legislature

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<v Speaker 7>and they've had their way. They said their goal in

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eighteen was to cut our prison population by fifty percent,

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<v Speaker 7>not the rate of crime, just the prison population by

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<v Speaker 7>fifty percent, and they are rapidly approaching some sort of momentum.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't stop with that, man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love what Advanced Colorado and some others are

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<v Speaker 2>doing and saying, Okay, listen, anything with the Red Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>is just getting shot at the polls and election day.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go win it through ballot measures until

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<v Speaker 2>we can start winning these state wide races. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>making some real progress there, so I'm glad this is

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<v Speaker 2>part of that.

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<v Speaker 7>I agreed, I listen. The initiative process is really the

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<v Speaker 7>last tool for regular old Coloradoans like we know, like

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<v Speaker 7>our neighbors, to have a voice in government, because it

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<v Speaker 7>is clear that the people we are sending to represent

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<v Speaker 7>us in most of the places, including the state office,

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<v Speaker 7>they just don't care what we think.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. And while I've got you let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you see all of these arguments from the

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<v Speaker 2>left right now that that wait a second, statistics show

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<v Speaker 2>crime is actually dropping, crime is not increasing, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you know these stats and the stats that

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<v Speaker 2>come from these different entities inside and out. Which is

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<v Speaker 2>it Colorado America crime on the rise or crime dropping.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a crime tsunami, for sure, Colorado did. And

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<v Speaker 7>I predicted this thing before it hit, before the COVID.

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<v Speaker 7>We have seen some decrease in those numbers. But this

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<v Speaker 7>idea that we're going to use an FBI database that

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<v Speaker 7>has a brand new methodology for calculating crimes and oh,

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<v Speaker 7>by the way, doesn't include every agency that's out there,

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<v Speaker 7>that's fake. If you look at the FBI's numbers on

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<v Speaker 7>victim reporting of crimes, yeah, we're still experiencing an increase

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<v Speaker 7>in crime everywhere. I don't get the apologies for this,

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<v Speaker 7>whether it's the Aurora, you know, apartment complexes with the Venezuelans,

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<v Speaker 7>it just seems like people want to go out of

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<v Speaker 7>their way to say, don't believe you're lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, obviously the left has to deny what's true,

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<v Speaker 2>or else the left gets bet at the polls, just

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<v Speaker 2>like tonight. Oh no, no abortion in the ninth month

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<v Speaker 2>isn't allowed anywhere. Well, come to Colorado that they brag

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<v Speaker 2>about allowing it up till the moment that baby's delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the left lies, because if people knew the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't vote for the left.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right, that's right. I think at this point, this

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<v Speaker 7>ballot initiative process that advanced Colorado has figured out that

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<v Speaker 7>the next approach the left will taker twofold one Dan

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<v Speaker 7>what sentencing passes, and it does. They're going to then

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<v Speaker 7>cut down the maximum sentence for all the crimes across

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<v Speaker 7>the board. That's what they'll do to address this. And

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<v Speaker 7>the second thing they'll do is they'll attack the petition

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<v Speaker 7>process to a constitutional amendment. They don't want us to

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<v Speaker 7>have the power.

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<v Speaker 2>Final question. And then you know, once the election's over

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<v Speaker 2>come on in, let's just sit down and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff from how or two? But is there

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<v Speaker 2>a path back for the GOP in Colorado to regularly

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<v Speaker 2>winning statewide? Hey? Unfair question, right, we got twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>If George solve all the world's problems in thirteen point

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<v Speaker 2>six seconds, you can do that. That's why you're George Brocler.

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<v Speaker 7>You on Saturday at the showdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looking forward to that, my friend. Thanks, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>the time today, George Brockler, good Man, great ta Hey

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. Trump has said no to a

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<v Speaker 2>third debate. Do you think he's right or wrong? Will

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<v Speaker 2>it help or hurt? I think it's brilliant and it

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<v Speaker 2>will help. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
