Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado,
Speaker 1: thirty years in the rain, fighting for truth, justice, and
Speaker 1: the American Way.
Speaker 2: A most gorgeous afternoon. Glad you are here. One of
Speaker 2: the most exciting times in American history to be alive.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about what we've had already right up
Speaker 2: until September twelfth, twenty twenty four. But what is to
Speaker 2: come between now and election day. It is mind blowing.
Speaker 2: So I want to open it today with President Trump.
Speaker 2: As you know, it came out and he said there
Speaker 2: is not going to be a rematch, not going to
Speaker 2: be a second debate. Do you think he's right or
Speaker 2: wrong on that? Do you think it's going to help
Speaker 2: or hurt him? Now? Harris already doing what I'm sure
Speaker 2: he and you expected, which is sort of building her
Speaker 2: campaign around it right now. See, he's chicken, he's afraid,
Speaker 2: he me it's in a mission. I crushed him all
Speaker 2: this and that, so you know, she'll obviously beat that
Speaker 2: drum for a long time to come. But right, a
Speaker 2: wrong decision by the president. So that is the breaking
Speaker 2: news right now. Let's come out with that eight five
Speaker 2: five four zero five eight two five five the number
Speaker 2: text d A N five seven seven three nine already
Speaker 2: great texts coming in, So I want to get to
Speaker 2: text today. But I have to say that to me,
Speaker 2: one of the great developments of this campaign is and
Speaker 2: this is one of the most fun things in a
Speaker 2: very long time, right, how it has become a true
Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon now, which by the way, is going to
Speaker 2: help Trump. And i'd like you're taking that, especially if
Speaker 2: you disagree, but how do you top this? And it's
Speaker 2: one of those things, right, It is involuntary, it's the
Speaker 2: way we're created. This just now has probably burrowed into
Speaker 2: your brain and you will never stop hearing this. This
Speaker 2: is kind of a dramatic prelude, but once we get there,
Speaker 2: it's well worth the wait. Yeah, wea the cat.
Speaker 3: They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. Eat the cat,
Speaker 3: eat the cat. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats,
Speaker 3: eat the cat.
Speaker 2: Eat eat the cat. They're eating the dogs.
Speaker 3: They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat the cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you see the video and the video
Speaker 2: is cat sweeping there social media at this point it originated,
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I think we see the thief
Speaker 2: of elopin here. But yeah, so it's all over social
Speaker 2: It started on TikTok, and the basic demo there are
Speaker 2: some variations, is it's usually an attractive young lady who's
Speaker 2: dancing to this song while mimicking the words, right, And
Speaker 2: this is just if you're not in a social media
Speaker 2: This is kind of a template that's been going around
Speaker 2: for years now, where you have people dance to someone
Speaker 2: else speaking the words. And this thing is I don't
Speaker 2: know how many millions of views it has right now.
Speaker 2: And the reason I think it helps Trump in the
Speaker 2: end is listen, whether or not these stories are true
Speaker 2: about folks here illegally eating cats and ducks from the
Speaker 2: park and things like that, Whether or not it's true,
Speaker 2: it caused attention to an undeniable reality, which is that
Speaker 2: the decision of Biden and Harris to just open that
Speaker 2: border and let everybody in without vetting has brought, along
Speaker 2: with the good people, has brought a lot of really,
Speaker 2: really bad, dangerous people. So, whether or not cats and
Speaker 2: dogs are getting killed by some of the people here illegally,
Speaker 2: certainly women are and women are being raped. And that
Speaker 2: is that the brutal, completely unacceptable reality that every American
Speaker 2: is aware of so you've got this kind of funny
Speaker 2: thing about eating cats and dogs and everything else, that's
Speaker 2: just it's a delivery system for this much more serious
Speaker 2: and important message. So eight five five four zer a
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Speaker 2: N five seven seven three nine. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: be talking about that. I can't wait to get your
Speaker 2: take on whether Trump a good move or bad move
Speaker 2: to say no second debate word out there. Don't know
Speaker 2: if it's true or not, but all over social media
Speaker 2: that there's going to be an ABC whistleblower coming forward
Speaker 2: making some revelations about things that happened at ABC before
Speaker 2: they rig this debate, engaged in this blatant election interference,
Speaker 2: and committed journalistic malpractice. So we'll keep you posted and
Speaker 2: see if anything comes of that. Some more poll results
Speaker 2: out today that we have to talk about first, because
Speaker 2: I like to put a smile on your face. Second,
Speaker 2: I think it leads to this very large question of
Speaker 2: all of the harm that was done to the Harris
Speaker 2: campaign as a result of that debate the other night.
Speaker 2: So I want to get into that and start to
Speaker 2: break that down with you. Let's go to Linda in Netherlands,
Speaker 2: you're on the dan Kaplas show. Welcome.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: My oppinion, I think that Trump should do another debate
Speaker 5: what's Camelo, but only on Fox Snooze. I No, she
Speaker 5: won't do it, so she would be the chicken.
Speaker 2: Well but thank you, Linda, because a lot of smart
Speaker 2: people are saying that. But let's break that down. If
Speaker 2: Trump comes out and says, Okay, I'll do another debate,
Speaker 2: but only on Fox News, at that point she says, see,
Speaker 2: he's a chicken. He'll only do it on Fox News,
Speaker 2: so that, you know, I think still leaves them with
Speaker 2: that issue. But my other concern, Linda is wait a second.
Speaker 2: This race is arking in his favor right now, and
Speaker 2: what Harris is incredibly fearful of is the fact that
Speaker 2: now there's an open playing field than the VP debate,
Speaker 2: which is certain to go in the GOP's favor. There's
Speaker 2: an open playing field now between today and election day,
Speaker 2: and Trump gets to fill that with all this video
Speaker 2: of harrising, all these insane things which prove that she's
Speaker 2: a crazy, wild eyed radical. So why would you want
Speaker 2: to why would you want to distract from that? That's
Speaker 2: why she wants the second debate, right for a lot
Speaker 2: of reasons. She really needs it, but she also wants
Speaker 2: to to fill up all of that space with something
Speaker 2: other than a constant focus on who she really is.
Speaker 5: Well, I understand all that, but I still think it
Speaker 5: would be the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Linda, sure appreciate that call eight five five
Speaker 2: for zero five eight two five five. I think Trump
Speaker 2: is a great in a great position now to just say,
Speaker 2: wait a second. I have done two debates, two debates
Speaker 2: against two different candidates. I knocked the first guy out.
Speaker 2: That should have been the end of the race, right,
Speaker 2: But then they have some back room deal and the
Speaker 2: cabal replaces him and installs her. And then I do
Speaker 2: a second debate on her terms. And guess what I
Speaker 2: come out of that debate ahead. I come out of
Speaker 2: that debate ahead. She doesn't gain in the polls. Now
Speaker 2: she wants a third debate, give me a break, you know,
Speaker 2: let's say, let her go out and do a bunch
Speaker 2: of interviews. You know, it's stop hiding from the press,
Speaker 2: go out there and answer these tough questions. So now
Speaker 2: I think he's in a strong position to say that.
Speaker 2: I think it is an extraordinarily wise move tactically, because
Speaker 2: you know what Clint said, right, A man's got to
Speaker 2: know his limitations, every single one of us. We have
Speaker 2: our strengths and we have our weaknesses. That format is
Speaker 2: not his strength, that's not his fault. He has some
Speaker 2: incredible strengths that most people don't have. They just don't
Speaker 2: fit that format in particular. And for whatever reason, he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to do traditional debate preps. So that's fine, Hey,
Speaker 2: be really realistic about where your best arenas are and
Speaker 2: go out and operate in those arenas, particularly after you've
Speaker 2: already debated twice here. And he does not get enough
Speaker 2: credit for the good stuff he did on Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: See that. This is the amazing phenomenon, right, And it's
Speaker 2: so easy to get caught up in. There is so
Speaker 2: much frustration, and I share it, believe me, because President
Speaker 2: Trump missed so many opportunities the other night. He had
Speaker 2: so many openings he didn't take. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: she missed bigger opportunities. She missed her one and only opportunity,
Speaker 2: and I'll get to that in a second. But at
Speaker 2: the same time Trump missed all those opportunities, he did
Speaker 2: some really important things very well. You know, repeatedly hammering
Speaker 2: on immigration, great distinction when it came to foreign policy,
Speaker 2: the economy, etc. He did some of those things very well.
Speaker 2: He also avoided any major gaffs, and I I thought
Speaker 2: his temperament, you know, overall, was very good under those
Speaker 2: incredibly difficult circumstances. So I think that all the good
Speaker 2: stuff gets lost because of the frustration over the missed openings.
Speaker 2: But then so many people are failing to consider she
Speaker 2: had one shot. This was her one shot to address
Speaker 2: the core concern of those undecided voters, which is, who
Speaker 2: the hell is she? What does she really believe? You know,
Speaker 2: can I believe she's really changed these positions? So you
Speaker 2: gotta tell me, comly, you got it, tell me, you know,
Speaker 2: why did you change the positions? What are your positions now?
Speaker 2: But above all, why did you change? She had one
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk to the American people about that, and
Speaker 2: she blew it. She never addressed that, She never explained it.
Speaker 2: Close second is the fact she never explained what she
Speaker 2: says she would really do now. So ironically right, the
Speaker 2: so called moderators who protected her the entire time literally
Speaker 2: jumped into the ring and debated themselves with Trump to
Speaker 2: protect her. They protected her to the point where she
Speaker 2: never did what she had to do to win this race. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, the reason they did that is they know
Speaker 2: that had they not protected her the way they did,
Speaker 2: she would have collapsed. I mean she literally she wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been quite as bad as Biden, but it would
Speaker 2: have been close. There would have been a collapse if
Speaker 2: she had not been dishonestly protected the way she was.
Speaker 2: I'll give you specifics when we come back eight five
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Speaker 2: But the lead question, because it's the breaking news this afternoon,
Speaker 2: President Trump says there's not going to be another debate.
Speaker 2: He's done two. He's not going to do a third.
Speaker 2: Right or wrong. You think that is going to help
Speaker 2: or hurt him. You're on the Dan Kapla show. This
Speaker 2: is on CBS, believe it or not.
Speaker 4: And so I talked to twenty voters that one of
Speaker 4: them was undecided. Wow, Michigan and headlines come and go.
Speaker 4: But let me tell you, this support for former President
Speaker 4: Trump is real and resilient. I encountered that everywhere I went.
Speaker 4: And that's something the Harris campaign knows recognized as the
Speaker 4: fact in Michigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's CBS post debate and a Michigan pull out
Speaker 2: today and it says it's post debate. But I believe
Speaker 2: it takes about a week to really see that the
Speaker 2: Poles settle in after one of these. But it had
Speaker 2: Trump up a points. So yeah, and think about the
Speaker 2: panic in the Harris camp right because she cannot have
Speaker 2: a better night. I mean, she was totally protected. She
Speaker 2: missed a lot of opportunities. She cannot have a better night.
Speaker 2: And if the Poles don't move substantially in her favor now,
Speaker 2: it can only mean one thing. Okay, the American people
Speaker 2: see it and they say, nah, to the phone lines,
Speaker 2: let's go to Mead Colorado. Tom, you're on the Dan Kaplish'll.
Speaker 6: Welcome, Hi, Dan, How are you.
Speaker 2: Living the dream? Thank you?
Speaker 6: You and I rarely disagree, but your take on the
Speaker 6: debate I'm going to disagree with. I thought his demeanor
Speaker 6: was terrible. He was negative, he was angry, and she
Speaker 6: got up under his grill. I mean, just like like
Speaker 6: she tried to and he had and to your good point,
Speaker 6: he had every opportunity to bring up capital gains tax
Speaker 6: taxes on unrealized gains. I mean, that was a kitchen
Speaker 6: table deal, you know, issue to bring up, and that's
Speaker 6: really what people want to bring up. But instead he
Speaker 6: starts talking about eating cats and dogs. He was awful,
Speaker 6: and I knew he.
Speaker 4: Was with me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so at least you're in an open minded Tom. Yeah. Listen,
Speaker 2: I'd like everybody else who has voted for him in
Speaker 2: the past, wants him to win this time. I was
Speaker 2: literally sitting there screaming. I mean, as she baited him
Speaker 2: with stuff like grelly size, I was yelling out loud
Speaker 2: in my basement, No, no, don't do it. And of
Speaker 2: course he did it. But but we've also got to remember,
Speaker 2: my friend, okay, that that is part of his success formula,
Speaker 2: because I understand, you know, we're sitting there and we're
Speaker 2: looking at how close these swing states appear, and you know,
Speaker 2: you have to broaden your appeal and you have to
Speaker 2: peel the suburban moms and this and that. But that
Speaker 2: is not Trump's formula. Clearly. Trump's formula is massive turnout
Speaker 2: among the people who already support him and the people
Speaker 2: who normally don't vote, and so he's got a different
Speaker 2: path he's pursuing to get there, and so so much
Speaker 2: of what he said and did that night I think
Speaker 2: supports that other path, but it did drive me crazy.
Speaker 2: So I mean, we could sit here together and come
Speaker 2: up with fifty.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: And when you're the man in the arena the way
Speaker 2: he was, and you're up against those time constraints, you're
Speaker 2: up against the so called moderators who are actually Harris
Speaker 2: staffers in effect. Yeah, it's easy to say from the
Speaker 2: comfort of my man cave. So let's say that you've
Speaker 2: got these ten or fifteen clear open shots you can take.
Speaker 2: I would expect the best candidate on his or her
Speaker 2: best night to maybe get five verse six of those in.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, that the fact he whiffed on almost
Speaker 2: all of them is frustrating. But Tom, he did so
Speaker 2: many things well you're not giving him credit for, and
Speaker 2: it's showing up in the polls right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: how does he extend his lead in the CNN poll
Speaker 2: on the most important issue of the economy if he
Speaker 2: was as bad as you say he is.
Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you that's true, and you're right, But
Speaker 6: I really you know, he had a perfect opportunity to
Speaker 6: bring up this insanity about taxing unrealized things and I
Speaker 6: know that applies to people one hundred million dollars in
Speaker 6: up network, but still it's going to affect other you know,
Speaker 6: more other investments, you know, all the private equity crowd
Speaker 6: and everything else.
Speaker 2: You know, and listen, we could go through a long
Speaker 2: list right now, right, And I'm sure that if you
Speaker 2: sat down with my wife, she could give you a long,
Speaker 2: long list of opportunities I missed, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: or things I could have done better. And she's very supportive,
Speaker 2: So I don't mean to make it sound that way,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure your wife could do the same, you know,
Speaker 2: not about me, but about you.
Speaker 6: The debate, did she make it good?
Speaker 2: We were in opposite states, and and she is such
Speaker 2: a caring and loving partner that she had the good
Speaker 2: sense to not even text me during the debate because yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but but no, Tom, I mean, he did so many
Speaker 2: things well and that's the only way you can explain, right,
Speaker 2: the fact that that he is not losing ground after
Speaker 2: this debate and it was her very best night possible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're right there. I mean, you know, a
Speaker 6: lot of pundage are coming out and saying it's really
Speaker 6: not gonna move it needily either way, which is a
Speaker 6: relief that that makes me feel better.
Speaker 2: But doesn't that go back Tom to who actually won
Speaker 2: the debate? Because how are we going to define winning?
Speaker 2: It seems to me when you're running for president that
Speaker 2: the only way you define winning is did you do
Speaker 2: in that debate what you needed to do to win
Speaker 2: the presidency? He did. Part of it was avoiding gaffes,
Speaker 2: part of it was being very strong on the issues
Speaker 2: that matter most to voters. And and she didn't because
Speaker 2: she hasn't moved the needles. So how do you say
Speaker 2: she won when she didn't do what she needed to
Speaker 2: win the presidency and he did. Now, the fact he
Speaker 2: had all these missed opportunities, Yeah, he could have absolutely
Speaker 2: buried her, He could have bidonized her. That race could
Speaker 2: be obviously over in everybody's mind. They could be looking
Speaker 2: for ways to replace her now. But the fact is
Speaker 2: he did what he needed to do to win the presidency.
Speaker 2: She didn't. How is that not a win?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know we can always see on this November.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we will. That's it's going to be so
Speaker 2: quick right now, Thank you, Tom, sure to appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dean and Arvada. You're on the Dan
Speaker 2: Kapla show. Welcome, Hey Dan, thank you.
Speaker 8: I wanted to bring up one point. I don't know
Speaker 8: why the GUP seems to just shoot themselves in the foot.
Speaker 8: Why don't they come up with an unconventional debate scenario
Speaker 8: where they I'm bringing my moderator, you pick yours. We'll
Speaker 8: have great questions that our moderators can come up with
Speaker 8: from each team. And I don't care if you know
Speaker 8: the questions. Obviously they're gonna know him, but they won't
Speaker 8: know the opposites about moderators questions. And then it's fair.
Speaker 8: You don't have to leave.
Speaker 6: Saying that was not moderated for you know, Trump could
Speaker 6: take Tucker Carlson or Dan Bunjoni Gongenio.
Speaker 8: You know I can't even call Yeah, and you know
Speaker 8: he knows he's going to get a fair shake.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, but tell me, why do you want a
Speaker 2: second debate? Why does Trump need a second No?
Speaker 8: No, no, at this point, at this point, he doesn't
Speaker 8: need one. I'm just saying he should have went into
Speaker 8: this a little bit more guard.
Speaker 2: He had no choice. O he's on Dean. He had
Speaker 2: no choice. Remember, at the time this debate was agreed to.
Speaker 2: I mean, after Harris was installed, she had all this momentum,
Speaker 2: she was on this sugar high, her numbers kept going up.
Speaker 2: He was being chilling to the debate. He had no leverage,
Speaker 2: he had no bargaining power. It was either agreed to
Speaker 2: that debate so we'd at least have one opportunity to
Speaker 2: show America who she really is or look really weak.
Speaker 2: He had no choice. She had the leverage. Now the
Speaker 2: worm is turned. Now he has the leverage. She desperately
Speaker 2: needs his second debate because she didn't get done what
Speaker 2: she needed to in the first one.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I totally I agree with you, But
Speaker 8: the thing is, I mean you can't just say, okay,
Speaker 8: you win the debate.
Speaker 7: We're not in.
Speaker 8: It's like it was three on one and we all
Speaker 8: know that I listened to your show every day.
Speaker 2: Well thank you, but and I've got to go nowday.
Speaker 2: I do apologize after this hard break, but you know,
Speaker 2: in terms of winning and losing, don't the voters get
Speaker 2: to decide that? And all indications in the polls are
Speaker 2: right now she did not get it done.
Speaker 3: Eat the cat, Eat the cat. They're eating the dogs,
Speaker 3: they're eating the cats eat the cat, the cat.
Speaker 2: Finally a song I can dance to eight five five
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Speaker 2: Now that's not nice right there? You can text us
Speaker 2: DA in five seven, seventh thirty nine. Hey, the breaking
Speaker 2: news this afternoon that we're getting your take on fascinating
Speaker 2: text on both sides of this. Is President Trump's decision,
Speaker 2: I think a brilliant one not to agree to a
Speaker 2: third debate. So we'll get back to that in a second.
Speaker 2: But have the great opportunity to talk to George Brockler here,
Speaker 2: candidate for DA in Colorado's new twenty third George, have
Speaker 2: you been officially declared the winner yet or is there
Speaker 2: still a technicality out there to be fulfilled?
Speaker 7: No? No, no, there there's thank you for having me
Speaker 7: on DAN. No, there's a there's a candidate on the
Speaker 7: other side presenting a Democrat thing. We had our first
Speaker 7: and only debate on the same night as the presidential
Speaker 7: No first, no planned our first, I swear no. It
Speaker 7: was a Douglas Elbert Bar association. It was scheduled like
Speaker 7: two months ago, and then the presidential one dropped on us,
Speaker 7: and it was still greatly attendant. It only overlapped ours
Speaker 7: went to about seven thirty or so. But people game,
Speaker 7: it was packed.
Speaker 2: Really it was impressed. Yeah, that's impressed. But wow, So Georgia,
Speaker 2: if you're new to the planet, was a great DA
Speaker 2: out in Repo when it was both a Repo and Douglas.
Speaker 2: Now they're split and he'll be the new DA in
Speaker 2: Douglas and has a column out. I really want to
Speaker 2: talk with you about, you know, about how revolving door
Speaker 2: makes sentencing a first in Colorado. But before we go there, obviously,
Speaker 2: what everybody's water cooler done now is the aftermath of
Speaker 2: the debate. So your take on who won, who lost,
Speaker 2: and Trump right or wrong to say no to numeral three.
Speaker 7: You know, I listened to you every day and your
Speaker 7: analysis always makes me think because your perspective is one
Speaker 7: that I don't take when I'm sitting there watching it,
Speaker 7: but it resonates with me. My takeaway was this wasn't
Speaker 7: game setter match for Kamala Harris. I don't know that
Speaker 7: she won any votes there. I think the disparity in
Speaker 7: performance was based on the fact that, you know, we
Speaker 7: had set the bars so low for her, even in
Speaker 7: anticipating that ABC would come to her rescue and she'd
Speaker 7: be uber prepared and that's just not Trump's style and
Speaker 7: all that stuff. The disparity in terms of the perception,
Speaker 7: I think made it okay for some who were like,
Speaker 7: I don't know if I can vote for her, and
Speaker 7: now feel like I think I can vote for her,
Speaker 7: And maybe it provided a little bit of energy to
Speaker 7: the youth. Do I think it makes a difference in
Speaker 7: the overall outcome of the election? I don't. This feels
Speaker 7: a lot like twenty sixteen to me, Dan, this feels like, ye,
Speaker 7: We're gonna go to bed at night on that Tuesday,
Speaker 7: and Trump pulled this thing out.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's right in the comparisons to sixteen,
Speaker 2: because Trump had a horrible first debate in sixteen against
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, still the most watched debate in American history,
Speaker 2: we don't have these numbers yet, and still pulled it
Speaker 2: out and again pulled it out, what three weeks after
Speaker 2: the Access Hollywood tapes came out. So and I don't.
Speaker 2: I think he did a lot of good things Tuesday.
Speaker 2: He had all those missed opportunities that frustrated all of us,
Speaker 2: But I think he did a lot of good things.
Speaker 2: I didn't see any major gaffs or anything close to
Speaker 2: a major gaff.
Speaker 7: What about you, No, it's the major gaff. You know
Speaker 7: the problem with Trump if he has an achilles heel,
Speaker 7: if he is prone to sometimes chasing things that you
Speaker 7: and I would sit there and go, dude, don't take
Speaker 7: don't chase that. You've got all the policies, you've got
Speaker 7: all the past performance, don't chase the small stuff. But
Speaker 7: there's that little bit of a kitten in him where
Speaker 7: if you throw out a yarn ball man, he's going
Speaker 7: to try to bat it.
Speaker 2: And then the other fact that listen you talk about
Speaker 2: it sixteen all over again. I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: And big part of sixteen was a whole lot of
Speaker 2: folks voting you normally don't vote, and then massive turnout
Speaker 2: among the folks who do support him. Because we all know,
Speaker 2: right you've been in the arena you are now that
Speaker 2: it's not about who tells upholstery. I prefer that guy.
Speaker 2: It's who cares enough to go out and vote. And
Speaker 2: the intensity of support for Trump, I think is going
Speaker 2: to wharf that of Harris, particularly among the folks who
Speaker 2: don't normally vote. So I think part of what we
Speaker 2: saw the other night was meant to, you know, continue
Speaker 2: to appeal to those folks who you know aren't looking
Speaker 2: for the typical message. Right, But what about this decision?
Speaker 7: She again her willingness, her willingness to openly avoid any questions,
Speaker 7: Like you didn't really need to have her there. She
Speaker 7: could have recorded her answers in advance and just they
Speaker 7: could have asked well, and she could have pressed like
Speaker 7: press one, press three. I mean, these are all the
Speaker 7: rehearsed answers. She didn't really ever respond to the things
Speaker 7: about crime, is the economy better today than it was?
Speaker 7: I mean, none of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, and tell me if you agree with me and
Speaker 2: this George Brockler with us. I was telling folks yesterday,
Speaker 2: My belief is that you know, right now, voters believe
Speaker 2: candidates on both sides lie. And I compare the swing
Speaker 2: state undecided voters right now to jurors because they know
Speaker 2: they know everybody wants something from them. So when somebody
Speaker 2: comes in who wants something from you, just like a juror,
Speaker 2: you know, hearing arguments from both sides in the trial,
Speaker 2: and the person who wants something from you is not
Speaker 2: willing to answer a direct question, a really important direct question.
Speaker 2: I think Kamala Harris hurt herself gravely by not being
Speaker 2: willing to answer these really critical direct questions George. I mean,
Speaker 2: here's Jake Tapper on that.
Speaker 4: Vice President Harris began the debate by punting the first
Speaker 4: question on the economy.
Speaker 6: Do you believe Americans are better off than they were
Speaker 6: four years ago?
Speaker 9: So I was raised as a middle class kid, and
Speaker 9: I am actually the only person on this stage who
Speaker 9: has a plan that is about lifting up the middle
Speaker 9: class and working people of America.
Speaker 2: They went on from there, despite Yeah, he's disgusted with
Speaker 2: the George and he's disgusted rrect because the people on
Speaker 2: the land, you have to want to win this race,
Speaker 2: and they know that if Harris won't answer these direct questions,
Speaker 2: it's going to turn off voters. I mean, you have
Speaker 2: tried so many cases, you know, hasn't it been your
Speaker 2: experience that when you're cross examining a witness and they
Speaker 2: will not answer a pivotal direct question, it's better for
Speaker 2: you than any answer they could have given.
Speaker 7: It is, especially when the jury picks up on the
Speaker 7: fact and sometimes it requires a follow up question, and
Speaker 7: that's where Mirr and his colleague failed America. You ask
Speaker 7: the question a second time, you get the non answer,
Speaker 7: and then jurors are like, I get it. They're not
Speaker 7: going to ever give us the answer.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: One of the fascinating things in this and you've hit
Speaker 7: this pretty hard, is CNN. What is going on over
Speaker 7: at CNN that like, you don't expect this. And I'm
Speaker 7: not just talking about from Jay Capper. I'm talking about
Speaker 7: the other stuff you put on, Like who got in
Speaker 7: CNN's head and said, did the CNN feel like they
Speaker 7: were rejected by the Harris team? And so they're like, well,
Speaker 7: we'll show you or what this new birth of journalism?
Speaker 7: What's that about?
Speaker 2: Well, what I think it's about, George is that I
Speaker 2: think many on the left now see that the worst
Speaker 2: thing that could happen to the left, which now has
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party as a tool, is for her to win.
Speaker 2: Because if she wins, she is going to be so
Speaker 2: terrible in the job. It's going to get them wiped
Speaker 2: out in the mid terms. It's going to get them
Speaker 2: wiped out in twenty eight and all this supposed great
Speaker 2: young talent they have is going to be on the
Speaker 2: bench for eight years. And here's the kicker, my friend.
Speaker 2: They're not getting They're not getting any Scotus appointments in
Speaker 2: the next four years, and so they're going to suffer
Speaker 2: all this damage through her terrible presidency without even getting
Speaker 2: a Supreme Court pick.
Speaker 7: I'm worried. I mean, I worry about Look, there are
Speaker 7: so many issues across the globe, but the sleeping giant
Speaker 7: over there, at least in terms of perception for Americans
Speaker 7: is China and the South China Sea and had one.
Speaker 7: I mean, who do you want behind the White House desk? Yeah,
Speaker 7: when that thing breaks loose in twenty twenty seven, because
Speaker 7: that's coming, oh man, coming.
Speaker 2: And again I think that's why so many on the
Speaker 2: left now do not want her to win, because they
Speaker 2: know she's going to be a disaster and it's going
Speaker 2: to damage the party for a long time to come. Hey,
Speaker 2: can you stick around for another segment? I do want
Speaker 2: to get to your great column, revolving Door, make sentencing
Speaker 2: a farce in Colorado, George Brockler with me. You're on
Speaker 2: the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9: Former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congresswoman Liz Cheney are
Speaker 9: supporting me as well.
Speaker 2: You know this is like exhibit Z right, just just
Speaker 2: the craziest presidential race of our lifetime. So you've got
Speaker 2: wild eyed, far left wing radical Kamala Harris up there
Speaker 2: bragging about support from Dick Cheney right, and George before
Speaker 2: we get to your great column about revolving door sentencing
Speaker 2: in Colorado. It's another area where I think Trump won
Speaker 2: the other night was when it comes to war in peace.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. We've got the Republican running
Speaker 2: as the peace candidate, and we've got the Democrat running
Speaker 2: as the war candidate. And we've got the Democrat saying
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney supports me, and Donald Trump saying, hey, we're
Speaker 2: risking a nuclear World War three. So it's fascinating I think,
Speaker 2: and listen, I don't. I think Putin is Satan on
Speaker 2: Earth and he's raping and pillaging Ukraine and he shouldn't
Speaker 2: get away with it. But I don't think America wants
Speaker 2: to sign a blank check now for an open ended
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to defeat Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. And
Speaker 2: I think Trump politically right now, is on the right
Speaker 2: side of that issue.
Speaker 7: Oh well, listen, I don't want to see a single
Speaker 7: American boot inside Ukraine that that would be ridiculous. But
Speaker 7: I'll say this, the idea that maybe your European partners,
Speaker 7: who you man, we carry the lion share of the effort.
Speaker 7: If they could just chip in a couple extra bucks
Speaker 7: here and there, how much more could we do or
Speaker 7: how much of the burden could we take off of ourselves.
Speaker 7: Why is that such a controversial thing for Trump to say?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it is. That's why I think,
Speaker 2: politically is on the right side of this issue. I
Speaker 2: don't want Putin to get his way. I do want
Speaker 2: Ukraine to prevail. But right now the Harris position, the
Speaker 2: Harris position is whatever it takes to defeat Putin. And
Speaker 2: when you're talking about whatever it takes against the nuclear
Speaker 2: power versus a guy who's saying, hey, I just want
Speaker 2: the war to end. I just want to make peace.
Speaker 2: I think that's going to benefit him greatly come election date.
Speaker 2: But hey, George, tell us about this Colin. By the way,
Speaker 2: those who don't know, George was a great DA in
Speaker 2: o Repo and he's running for DA in Douglas. What's
Speaker 2: your website?
Speaker 7: Just George Brockler dot com Traditional Healing.
Speaker 2: How much did you pay a consultant for that.
Speaker 7: It was available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so tell folks about this revolving door sentencing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so here's what I did. I was asked, what
Speaker 7: are some things that Colorado could do, Colorado voters could
Speaker 7: do to try to make up for what the legislature
Speaker 7: and policts have done to our criminal justice system. And
Speaker 7: one of the things a bunch of us agreed on
Speaker 7: is we need to have real truth and sentencing right now.
Speaker 7: We don't right now. For folks that don't know this,
Speaker 7: the law says on paper that if you're a violent criminal,
Speaker 7: you have to serve seventy five percent of your sentence
Speaker 7: before you're parole eligible. But once you factor in good time,
Speaker 7: earn time, didn't rape my cellmate this week time, it
Speaker 7: actually functions more like forty three percent before you're parole eligible,
Speaker 7: and you get about eighteen months off of that at
Speaker 7: the back end to get into community correction. This is
Speaker 7: fake sentencing and it hasn't made us safer. We have
Speaker 7: one of the highest recidivism rates in the country. And
Speaker 7: so you know, with this Truth and Sentencing proposal, this
Speaker 7: one twelve, it's on the ballot, it's an opportunity to
Speaker 7: say all right legislature and POLIS and the police appointed
Speaker 7: Parole Board. If you don't get it, we do. We're
Speaker 7: going to change the law to mandate that violent felons
Speaker 7: must serve eighty five percent of their time before their paroles.
Speaker 7: So I do this deep dive into all the numbers
Speaker 7: that are out there, and I don't think people have
Speaker 7: any idea that even though there's been a twenty eight
Speaker 7: percent increase in violent crime over the last ten years,
Speaker 7: we have a lower prison population now than we did
Speaker 7: at that time. We have two thousand less prisoners today
Speaker 7: than we did just three years or five years ago
Speaker 7: in July twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: It explains crime, the less crime.
Speaker 7: It's not of the crime, it's just we're not sending
Speaker 7: people to prisoner keeping them there.
Speaker 2: George, Where can people learn more about this because I
Speaker 2: don't think it's been on the radar. Did this ballot measure?
Speaker 7: No? Yeah? Yeah? First off, Advanced Colorado Michael Fields, who's
Speaker 7: a buddy, and KBB Christy Burton Brown have been great
Speaker 7: at getting this thing up on the ballot. You can
Speaker 7: go to the Advanced Colorado dot org website. You can
Speaker 7: also just Google Gazette and this column revolving door prison
Speaker 7: and the statistics that I put in here I didn't
Speaker 7: expect to see. But the bottom line is the ACLU
Speaker 7: since about twenty fifteen twenty eighteen has dominated the legislature
Speaker 7: and they've had their way. They said their goal in
Speaker 7: twenty eighteen was to cut our prison population by fifty percent,
Speaker 7: not the rate of crime, just the prison population by
Speaker 7: fifty percent, and they are rapidly approaching some sort of momentum.
Speaker 7: We can't stop with that, man.
Speaker 2: And I love what Advanced Colorado and some others are
Speaker 2: doing and saying, Okay, listen, anything with the Red Jersey
Speaker 2: is just getting shot at the polls and election day.
Speaker 2: We're going to go win it through ballot measures until
Speaker 2: we can start winning these state wide races. And they're
Speaker 2: making some real progress there, so I'm glad this is
Speaker 2: part of that.
Speaker 7: I agreed, I listen. The initiative process is really the
Speaker 7: last tool for regular old Coloradoans like we know, like
Speaker 7: our neighbors, to have a voice in government, because it
Speaker 7: is clear that the people we are sending to represent
Speaker 7: us in most of the places, including the state office,
Speaker 7: they just don't care what we think.
Speaker 2: Man. And while I've got you let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: You know, you see all of these arguments from the
Speaker 2: left right now that that wait a second, statistics show
Speaker 2: crime is actually dropping, crime is not increasing, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I know you know these stats and the stats that
Speaker 2: come from these different entities inside and out. Which is
Speaker 2: it Colorado America crime on the rise or crime dropping.
Speaker 7: We had a crime tsunami, for sure, Colorado did. And
Speaker 7: I predicted this thing before it hit, before the COVID.
Speaker 7: We have seen some decrease in those numbers. But this
Speaker 7: idea that we're going to use an FBI database that
Speaker 7: has a brand new methodology for calculating crimes and oh,
Speaker 7: by the way, doesn't include every agency that's out there,
Speaker 7: that's fake. If you look at the FBI's numbers on
Speaker 7: victim reporting of crimes, yeah, we're still experiencing an increase
Speaker 7: in crime everywhere. I don't get the apologies for this,
Speaker 7: whether it's the Aurora, you know, apartment complexes with the Venezuelans,
Speaker 7: it just seems like people want to go out of
Speaker 7: their way to say, don't believe you're lying.
Speaker 2: Well, right, obviously the left has to deny what's true,
Speaker 2: or else the left gets bet at the polls, just
Speaker 2: like tonight. Oh no, no abortion in the ninth month
Speaker 2: isn't allowed anywhere. Well, come to Colorado that they brag
Speaker 2: about allowing it up till the moment that baby's delivered.
Speaker 2: So if the left lies, because if people knew the truth,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't vote for the left.
Speaker 7: That's right, that's right. I think at this point, this
Speaker 7: ballot initiative process that advanced Colorado has figured out that
Speaker 7: the next approach the left will taker twofold one Dan
Speaker 7: what sentencing passes, and it does. They're going to then
Speaker 7: cut down the maximum sentence for all the crimes across
Speaker 7: the board. That's what they'll do to address this. And
Speaker 7: the second thing they'll do is they'll attack the petition
Speaker 7: process to a constitutional amendment. They don't want us to
Speaker 7: have the power.
Speaker 2: Final question. And then you know, once the election's over
Speaker 2: come on in, let's just sit down and talk about
Speaker 2: all this stuff from how or two? But is there
Speaker 2: a path back for the GOP in Colorado to regularly
Speaker 2: winning statewide? Hey? Unfair question, right, we got twenty seconds.
Speaker 2: If George solve all the world's problems in thirteen point
Speaker 2: six seconds, you can do that. That's why you're George Brocler.
Speaker 7: You on Saturday at the showdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that, my friend. Thanks, thanks for
Speaker 2: the time today, George Brockler, good Man, great ta Hey
Speaker 2: when we come back. Trump has said no to a
Speaker 2: third debate. Do you think he's right or wrong? Will
Speaker 2: it help or hurt? I think it's brilliant and it
Speaker 2: will help. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.