Speaker 1: We have a musical theme on the show today.
Speaker 2: We've not been able to execute it because we have
Speaker 2: some bits we've had to stick to name me, namely
Speaker 2: Pitbull for Zach Harper, and then we did, of course
Speaker 2: our tribe song for Pablo.
Speaker 1: The theme was.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be music from a TV series soundtrack TV
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna lie at the gym the other day,
Speaker 2: not a big deal part of my life. Laguna Beach
Speaker 2: soundtrack Dashboard Confessional and it hits km oh Man, Big Lugota,
Speaker 2: Laguna Beach, the Hills, great reality.
Speaker 3: I was Laguna Beach over the OC. I know for
Speaker 3: sure documentary versus you know, drama.
Speaker 4: I understand. It was way team Laguna Beach over the no.
Speaker 2: Elsie is still like a sister to me. I was
Speaker 2: always team Kristen, but Elsie is like a sister.
Speaker 3: And I remember it was a big deal because one
Speaker 3: of them was Mormon. So the Uton's were so excited.
Speaker 2: Morgan Morgan, Oh my gosh, good poll and then Stephen
Speaker 2: Coletti that clown juggling.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was supposed to be the theme, and
Speaker 2: Porter played, so that was from a TV show. Yellowstone
Speaker 2: Right sounded like Gemstones. Oh righteous, Gemstones. We should have
Speaker 2: known that Christopher Camaraddie liven Studio dressed for spring.
Speaker 1: How are you so?
Speaker 4: I'm great?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: How are you vitam?
Speaker 1: Indeed?
Speaker 4: HiT's right much. I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1: Are you caught up on Gemstones? Are you watching White Lotus?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, so good. I'm not that impressed with this
Speaker 4: season so far, to be honest.
Speaker 1: With you, For some reason, I love it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is.
Speaker 3: Individual performances are good, but it's taking a while to
Speaker 3: get to like the crux of it. I guess I
Speaker 3: just really like the first two seasons. I'm a sucker
Speaker 3: for Italy for a multitude of reasons. For my favorite
Speaker 3: place to go, WHI second favorite place to go? And
Speaker 3: Thailand looks cool, man, I wouldn't lie. Do you know
Speaker 3: how much it costs to stay at that real life
Speaker 3: four seasons per night? I do not, Yes, the way
Speaker 3: in one of the villas where the fancy people are saying.
Speaker 2: The way you're asking it would indicate it's twenty two
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a night, forty six hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: A night, seven thousand what ten grand?
Speaker 2: In Thailand yep, I thought the whole point of Thailand
Speaker 2: unless you're a white girl between the age of twenty
Speaker 2: five and thirty, try to find yourself as you can
Speaker 2: go there and it's cheap.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean cheap food, cheap pretty much everything.
Speaker 3: But dude, that place is like fake. I think that
Speaker 3: place is not even real.
Speaker 1: It looks awesome.
Speaker 3: So I mean, if I know you have VC Bros. Indeed,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're if we can come up
Speaker 3: with some sort of you know, nonprofit starting organization, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they want to invest do like an all inclusive
Speaker 3: trip to Thailand.
Speaker 2: Is it is it time to admit that do I
Speaker 2: want to say this? Are all nonprofits just scams?
Speaker 1: Like no, not all. I shouldn't say all, but I
Speaker 1: feel like and I go one C, three B.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have some people in my ecosystem and I
Speaker 2: will not say who I love, but have star it
Speaker 2: a nonprofit and they come up with something to like
Speaker 2: fool people like, hey, this is a real thing that
Speaker 2: we should care about. And then suddenly they're in Cabo
Speaker 2: like three weeks out of every month.
Speaker 1: It's a little shady.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I guess we're getting a little too far
Speaker 3: away from the point.
Speaker 4: But we should go to Thailand.
Speaker 3: If we frea get back around, if we can somehow
Speaker 3: conjure up eighty to ninety grand Okay, But I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: Like I'm more of an urban night I think the
Speaker 3: Bangkok rick experience seems way more interesting to me. But
Speaker 3: sitting by a pool with a bunch of rich people,
Speaker 3: that doesn't really apply to me or like get me
Speaker 3: going at all anyways. So if I'm gonna fly twenty
Speaker 3: four hours across the world, I'm not trying to go
Speaker 3: just sit by a pool.
Speaker 1: Do you think Goggins kills him?
Speaker 4: No, it's his dad?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, come on, man.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that a spoiler?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Or is that a guess?
Speaker 4: It's a guess.
Speaker 3: Got Glenn's dad, the great Scott Glenn, who was the
Speaker 3: dad of the main character and Leftover.
Speaker 4: Yes he was. He's an HBO guy.
Speaker 1: Another great show. You turned me on.
Speaker 2: I'll give you complete credit for Leftovers. Phenomenal HBO show.
Speaker 3: If you have not seen so last last show pitch before,
Speaker 3: I'm sure we move on to some sports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did twenty minutes on Philip seymore Hoppins and it's.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of heavy, but it's the best show
Speaker 3: I've seen this year, and it's the best show that
Speaker 3: I've seen in a very long time.
Speaker 4: The Pit on HBO.
Speaker 3: Okay, it is an hour by hour episodic where doctors
Speaker 3: and nurses show up at the er that they work
Speaker 3: at and every episode is one hour of their shift.
Speaker 4: Oh at an er.
Speaker 1: It has been recommended to me what I fire up?
Speaker 3: Man? That's really good man, and it it hits on
Speaker 3: a lot of societal things that we aren't good at,
Speaker 3: and it's it's very good and interesting fifteen episode season.
Speaker 3: So it's like some of these you know, fancy one, seven, eight, nine, No, fifteen.
Speaker 1: I got some flights coming up. I can fire that up.
Speaker 3: The Sam Rockwell, oh dude, top top five, top five
Speaker 3: dialogue delivery of all time. I mean like I was,
Speaker 3: I was goggins in that, Like I had that look
Speaker 3: on my face.
Speaker 1: I think we all were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if we're being honest, we know some people
Speaker 3: in our lives who probably have some rock Well in
Speaker 3: them at least I.
Speaker 1: Do, okay, and not like not on that level of
Speaker 1: Some of.
Speaker 3: My friends were texting me and just be like, you know,
Speaker 3: I could see if things went sideways for so and
Speaker 3: so maybe, I mean, but anyways, love Sam rockquaill like
Speaker 3: an amazing actor. And I heard that there was going
Speaker 3: to be a surprise guest actor at some point. I
Speaker 3: didn't know it was going to be him. I didn't
Speaker 3: know that our guy would deliver at the levels that
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 4: I mean, that is like ultimate.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, like who would come off the
Speaker 3: bench back in the day and just hit like I mean,
Speaker 3: that's like Kyle Korver peak jazz, just coming off the
Speaker 3: bench and going like six of eight from three like
Speaker 3: it was insane.
Speaker 2: Since you brought up Kyle Korver, let's just can you
Speaker 2: know this is only on this show? Can we go
Speaker 2: from Sam Rockwell to Kyle Korover. I want to get
Speaker 2: back to Rockwell because I want to know what the
Speaker 2: best Rockwell movie is.
Speaker 1: Is there an obvious answer?
Speaker 4: Individual performance? I love Moon.
Speaker 1: Moon was good. Frost Nixon was excellent.
Speaker 3: His his I think he won an oscar for three billboards.
Speaker 4: In Edbing, Missouri.
Speaker 1: He did win an oscar for that was the and
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 3: The very lewde rude cop who has a full circle
Speaker 3: moment with Francis McDorman And for your listeners who've never
Speaker 3: seen that movie, I highly recommend it.
Speaker 4: It's it's very, very good.
Speaker 2: He was in Vice. Let's see, what was the movie
Speaker 2: that kind of burst him on the scene. It was
Speaker 2: the Clooney movie. Well, he was in match Stick Man.
Speaker 2: I think match Stick.
Speaker 1: He was in Green Mile.
Speaker 4: Yep, one of the spooky guys in Green.
Speaker 2: Mind Confessions of a Dangerous Mind that was kind of
Speaker 2: like the Now suddenly everybody knew.
Speaker 4: Who it was, I think.
Speaker 2: But you brought Kyle Korver only on this show. Let's go,
Speaker 2: Sam Rockwell, Kyle Korver, do you remember? Because I was
Speaker 2: doing crosstalk with oc we were talking about he referenced
Speaker 2: Kyle Korver somehow, and Kyle Korver gave a I don't
Speaker 2: know if the Jazz were doing like vignettes for the
Speaker 2: local TV media or whatever, but he gave an interview.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked him what his favorite snack was and he
Speaker 2: said peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Okay, And then a
Speaker 2: local TV anchor showed up to a Jazz postgame media
Speaker 2: availability and brought him a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Speaker 2: and it was the most awkward thing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that.
Speaker 4: I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: Mike Kyle Korver memories from a journalistic point of view
Speaker 3: are he was kind enough to spend like an hour
Speaker 3: with me breaking down why he's such a good three
Speaker 3: point shooter for a story I did a very long
Speaker 3: time ago that I'd forgotten about until now when he
Speaker 3: was getting close to breaking a record. And then secondarily,
Speaker 3: I was at one of the games where Donovan had
Speaker 3: a really rough playoff outing and Kyle like called media
Speaker 3: people over to his locker to talk about like the
Speaker 3: weight that Donovan had on his shoulders at the time
Speaker 3: and people shouldn't be hard on him. And I'd never
Speaker 3: really seen that before.
Speaker 1: I think I remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was very I mean, glue guys right, like veterans,
Speaker 3: they they go they go far away if you have
Speaker 3: the right ones. And and I think everybody at the
Speaker 3: time was kind of stunned because generally when you're in
Speaker 3: the locker room and guys are done, you know, they
Speaker 3: turn around and they look at their phone and get dressed.
Speaker 1: They want to get out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was, yeah, it was. It was very
Speaker 3: enlightening and I remember that that those are those are my.
Speaker 1: It was always when's the last time you were in
Speaker 1: a locker room?
Speaker 3: Oh, very long time, because it had to have been
Speaker 3: an NBA playoff game, because the college football playoff in
Speaker 3: theory has open locker rooms, but they don't really like
Speaker 3: when I was down at the Rose Bowl for Oregon
Speaker 3: Ohio State, Oregon just brought out a few guys and
Speaker 3: just had them speak outside the locker room, like you
Speaker 3: didn't go in there. A lot of these guys find
Speaker 3: a way to wiggle around the quote unquote rules. Generally,
Speaker 3: in a professional setting it's more open. I don't know
Speaker 3: if Arcel does it anymore. That's where I spent most
Speaker 3: of my locker room time when I was on the beat,
Speaker 3: was just going in there after you know, games, and
Speaker 3: talking to guys. But I think they've changed it up
Speaker 3: a little bit as well. But the locker room dynamic
Speaker 3: is fascinating.
Speaker 2: It was always interesting in kind of awkward where because
Speaker 2: I was a pr intern for the Jazz for two
Speaker 2: years and so I go in and make sure the
Speaker 2: guys were ready before you let the media, and then
Speaker 2: the media would come in and guys would come out
Speaker 2: of the shower, take their towel off, sit down, start
Speaker 2: to get dressed while the media is like awkwardly standing
Speaker 2: there waiting to ask them questions while these dudes are
Speaker 2: buck naked.
Speaker 1: It's not a weird thing.
Speaker 4: It is. I mean, we could spend an hour.
Speaker 1: We've got forty eight minutes you can.
Speaker 3: I feel like most organizations have figured it out. I
Speaker 3: mean there is. It all starts with the communication. You
Speaker 3: have to communicate with the PR staff who you want
Speaker 3: to talk to. You know, a unique thing in the
Speaker 3: world of IF pro locker rooms. Excuse me as the sidling.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Brian Curtis the Ringer did a great story a few
Speaker 3: years ago about reporters that kind of stake out for
Speaker 3: one on ones after the throngs have moved on from
Speaker 3: one player to another. It's an interesting dynamic. I find
Speaker 3: it very fascinating. It's the inner workings of interpersonal communication
Speaker 3: at its both like finest when it works, but also
Speaker 3: like it could be its worst at the same time,
Speaker 3: because it could be awkward if you're not good at it,
Speaker 3: and we've seen often how bad some people are at
Speaker 3: I mean, like at least once every six months. One
Speaker 3: of my best friends sends me the Russell Westbrook clip.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Jazz winner. Did you lose this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And Russ just delivering an all timer. Like that's one example,
Speaker 3: and there is a litany of them. So just basically
Speaker 3: advice to folks who are coming up or who are
Speaker 3: doing it, just be prepared.
Speaker 4: And be good.
Speaker 1: You know, we have one of the biggest idiots that's here.
Speaker 2: Actually ruined was one of the reasons locker room dynamics
Speaker 2: in the NBA changed, and it was the origin story
Speaker 2: of nightlife with Golden State. You remember this, So Golden
Speaker 2: State in town and this was before the media was
Speaker 2: supposed to be allowed in to ask questions or whatever. Like,
Speaker 2: all the players were talking off record, and this idiot,
Speaker 2: this clown, starts tweeting out a private conversation between Draymond
Speaker 2: Green and his teammates and Draymond said something about the
Speaker 2: nightlife and Sali and this loser sends it out via Twitter,
Speaker 2: and that's how the nightlife thing exploded.
Speaker 1: Draymond was not on the record knocking on Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: It was an off the record conversation he was having
Speaker 2: with teammates and this bozo It isn't really a media member,
Speaker 2: but claims that he is at times decided to send
Speaker 2: out these tweets like an idiot.
Speaker 3: Well, and the irony of it all is the Warriors.
Speaker 3: A lot of Warriors staffers and players say that their
Speaker 3: favorite restaurant in the country is Steve Kerry Alters Alters
Speaker 3: Yet so rest in peace?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we could keep going. Oh wait, I
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you because you brought up ourselves. I
Speaker 2: ever told you about the time that Tray yelled at
Speaker 2: me because of.
Speaker 4: Eddie Pope what No, but I want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: Locker room tie.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this was year one Rice ecles locker room
Speaker 2: RSL players in that old University of Utah, Yeah, which
Speaker 2: is just a dump when they've obviously redone it. It's
Speaker 2: great now. And KSL rolls up and they wanted to
Speaker 2: do a vignette on Eddie. They wanted Eddie to come out,
Speaker 2: and they were gonna do this vignette and put.
Speaker 1: It on the news.
Speaker 2: And so Trey says, hey, Spence, go grab Eddie poke
Speaker 2: ks els here. So walk in the locker room and
Speaker 2: I find Eddie in a towel, said, Eddie kassa El's here.
Speaker 2: They want to do a vignette on you. You know,
Speaker 2: can you roll out? And Eddie said, yeah, I'm about
Speaker 2: topping the shower. It's okay, we'll just come out after
Speaker 2: you're done showering. So I walk out and Trey's standing there,
Speaker 2: suit credential, very serious, you know, little general as there were,
Speaker 2: and he says, where's Eddie. I said, uh, he's showering.
Speaker 2: He was in this tower. He's about to do top
Speaker 2: in the shower. He's gonna come out after a shower.
Speaker 2: And he goes, You've got to learn to be a professional.
Speaker 2: And I said, calm down, lord, far quad, chill out. No,
Speaker 2: he came out after the shower. But Trey was mad
Speaker 2: that Eddie wasn't following me. What Here's what Trey was doing.
Speaker 2: He was flexing in front of the media. He was
Speaker 2: preparing you.
Speaker 1: He wanted Rod Zundel to think he was cool. He
Speaker 1: wasn't preparing me. I didn't need to be prepared by Trey.
Speaker 2: He just wanted to flex in front of people, like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is covered a match.
Speaker 1: Zippy was there? Got zippy?
Speaker 2: So yes, that was when and Trey and I used
Speaker 2: to go at it. We still do occasionally. But he
Speaker 2: was upset that I could not drag Eddy Pope, who
Speaker 2: was in a towel outside to do a hit with KSL.
Speaker 4: Life's Hard Man.
Speaker 1: That's all you got on that. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: showing off, you know, Trey, he was getting chesty.
Speaker 2: He had his fourth quad shot vanilla latte from Starbucks
Speaker 2: in his hand from that day and he just wanted
Speaker 2: to show.
Speaker 4: People who twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: You know what I think?
Speaker 2: Actually, quad shot is less than I think Trey liked
Speaker 2: six shots in his lattes. You know, Elliott's first job
Speaker 2: with the club was fetching tray coffee.
Speaker 4: Text from Trey. Yeah missed the life shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well we didn't know, we didn't. He came
Speaker 1: out after the shower, everything was fine.
Speaker 2: It was because of his damn caffeine addiction. He was
Speaker 2: mad at me because he had his sixth after training
Speaker 2: or after a game. It was after training, okay, is
Speaker 2: maybe if it was after a game and you know,
Speaker 2: emotions were running high. No, no, no, there's no what
Speaker 2: was I supposed to do?
Speaker 4: Eddie?
Speaker 1: Take the towel off and get dressed.
Speaker 4: Eddie.
Speaker 3: You need to get out there, and you need to
Speaker 3: get Nicholas Bassanio under your wing, because he is the
Speaker 3: future of the club.
Speaker 2: Nick Basano, who John Elager once told me the only
Speaker 2: danger in drafting him is he'll be in Europe in
Speaker 2: three years and he was backpacking, not playing soccer. Speaking
Speaker 2: of ourselves. We're gonna get a nine. We're going to
Speaker 2: get an addition, they're going to make some signings. We
Speaker 2: had problem on earlier.
Speaker 4: What do you say?
Speaker 2: He basically said, we need help, and he did drop
Speaker 2: four to five days.
Speaker 1: He thinks they'll get a couple across the line.
Speaker 3: Well, four to five days if you get it across
Speaker 3: the line, meaning you get documents signed, which is the
Speaker 3: problem right Well, and then you have to file for
Speaker 3: visas and all of the international travel stuff, which I
Speaker 3: would imagine is a little more difficult right now depending
Speaker 3: on where some of these players play good points and
Speaker 3: the window closes the last or second last to yeah, second,
Speaker 3: so we're about the last week of eight.
Speaker 1: Last we're less than a month away, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think this was my my biggest concern
Speaker 3: going into this thing was these things take time. They
Speaker 3: take a very long time often, and oursel could find
Speaker 3: its could find itself in a place where they don't
Speaker 3: get a player over until late April early May. I
Speaker 3: don't know when the last time that player played got
Speaker 3: to acclimate to the league, altitude, team whatever, and suddenly
Speaker 3: this team that's already kind of behind the eight ball
Speaker 3: is even more behind the eight ball.
Speaker 2: Good points, depressing points were good points, so well.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, you're not wrong, No, I know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, this team isn't good enough right
Speaker 3: now to rely on being able to stack up points
Speaker 3: late in the season. Last year, if they were able
Speaker 3: to maintain an Andrasco miss, if Chicho Wrong's RSL career
Speaker 3: doesn't go south, that team was good enough if it
Speaker 3: was up against it. This team's not. It's not even close.
Speaker 2: So you tell me what's fair to say about the following,
Speaker 2: because I've heard this and there's also a club span.
Speaker 1: On this as well.
Speaker 2: And I don't really know what the numbers, okay, because
Speaker 2: it's not dollar for dollar. It's not Hey, you receive
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen million or whatever it is in exchange for
Speaker 2: the players you moved off of.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the number is.
Speaker 4: You're talking about the Gomez sale, I'm.
Speaker 1: Talking about all of it.
Speaker 2: Gomez sale, you move off of Crooks you sell cheat
Speaker 2: Show for pennies on the dollar, but probably the bulk
Speaker 2: of it comes from selling adres and from the fan perspective. Okay,
Speaker 2: good job, proof of concept, tie five, reinvest the funds
Speaker 2: and talent.
Speaker 1: Is that fair?
Speaker 4: It's not how it works.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So in MLS, help me understand.
Speaker 3: You sell andres for I guess at its top amount
Speaker 3: was like maybe fourteen ish. But if you think about
Speaker 3: how MLS works as a structure, it is a umbrella league.
Speaker 3: The reason why RSL can bring in designated players is
Speaker 3: because the league takes a majority of that budget hit
Speaker 3: per player salary. It is a very unique setup. It
Speaker 3: is very hard to wrap your head around single entity exactly.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a socialist league, socialist sport. You know,
Speaker 3: don't get woke.
Speaker 4: It's not five o'clock hour, just being honest.
Speaker 1: Or to hold the listeners at day So you're about
Speaker 1: to get woke.
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: For the fans that are frustrated that RSL got four
Speaker 3: got fourteen million, I promise you all of that fourteen
Speaker 3: million did not go directly to RSL. It was interspersed
Speaker 3: through various entities. And that's just the way it goes
Speaker 3: man like, this is a unique league. It is an
Speaker 3: It is a league that makes not a lot of
Speaker 3: sense more often than not. But I would caution Ursel
Speaker 3: fans to who are up, you know, raising their fists
Speaker 3: at the sky, saying why don't we be able to
Speaker 3: spend at least some of this fourteen million that we
Speaker 3: got for Andre Skomez on some players. I'm sure they
Speaker 3: got a decent chunk. But listen, man, this is ultimately
Speaker 3: a question that needs to be posed to the ownership
Speaker 3: group because last year, in the last two years, you
Speaker 3: saw the ownership group invest more than it ever has.
Speaker 3: You know, the chi Cho transfer at six million was
Speaker 3: you know, a club record at the time, but now
Speaker 3: an MLS like a six million dollar transfer is kind
Speaker 3: of average. So I know fans are frustrated with the
Speaker 3: front office and their lack of current moves. But the
Speaker 3: next time David Blitzer and his group get in front
Speaker 3: of a microphone locally, somebody needs to ask them, like
Speaker 3: what their plan is from a spending perspective, because it
Speaker 3: usually starts at the top.
Speaker 2: A very smart person once said to me of something
Speaker 2: along the lines of asking Ryan Smith to fix RSL
Speaker 2: is kind of like asking Dwyane Wade to fix the Jazz.
Speaker 4: But Ryan isn't a majority owner.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's even on his radar.
Speaker 4: And I understand that, but I think, like by.
Speaker 1: The way that person was, you just say, you know.
Speaker 3: If Ryan, if Ryan is a ten to twenty to
Speaker 3: thirty percent owner, Max, that's not he's not running the
Speaker 3: day to day operations. Obviously, since he brought the hockey
Speaker 3: team here, you could tell that one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: his attention has gone to the Jazz and getting a
Speaker 3: hockey team up and running within six months of being
Speaker 3: moved from a different location. I think Ryan Smith is
Speaker 3: an easy punching bag for RSL fans because they see,
Speaker 3: you know, the Delta Center got remade and the hockey
Speaker 3: club came in and they're building the hockey facility down
Speaker 3: at Southtown and all that stuff. But it's like he's
Speaker 3: not the majority owner. He is a partial owner. And
Speaker 3: if you have a gripe, you need to take it
Speaker 3: up with the majority owner who is in charge of
Speaker 3: signing the checks and signing off on potential big moves.
Speaker 3: And frankly, we don't hear from David Blitzer all that
Speaker 3: often or from the people that work for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ultimately me. Look, you know, you know my deal.
Speaker 2: I'm a forty guy in my mid forties with my
Speaker 2: hat on backwards. Me and Rye my guy over under
Speaker 2: two point five RSL players. Could Ryan name over under
Speaker 2: two point five RSL players right now? No chance, dude,
Speaker 2: he might get justin Glad.
Speaker 4: No, he'd get Luna. I think he'd get an Lli.
Speaker 1: So two, do you think you get three?
Speaker 4: I think you get three.
Speaker 2: And I think it's fair to wonder how many soccer
Speaker 2: clubs does my guy blitz? My guy six or seven clubs?
Speaker 2: And is it fair to say RSL might be the smallest,
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: So how much is it even.
Speaker 4: On his radar? Don't know?
Speaker 2: So is the shine of the ownership transition? Has it
Speaker 2: worn off?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 3: And again this, if you put a microphone in somebody,
Speaker 3: they don't always have to tell you the whole truth.
Speaker 4: The entire truth, So help them.
Speaker 3: God, they actually never will, right, But I'm saying it
Speaker 3: can go a long way if they actually just provide
Speaker 3: some sort of updated context of where things are going
Speaker 3: or what the plan is.
Speaker 2: If only they add a competent VP of communications to
Speaker 2: help further the message. So vinal thing, do you think
Speaker 2: they get a couple of cross It feels like they
Speaker 2: have to, Like April twenty third cannot come and go
Speaker 2: without RSL grabbing a couple of players.
Speaker 3: I mean, if not, if they want to be good
Speaker 3: this year, like what are they tanking? No, they're not tanking.
Speaker 3: They just don't have a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: For the MLS Super Drafts, it's number one overall. Pick.
Speaker 4: Hey man, you're Nate.
Speaker 3: Shout out Nate bench A Mecca and Ellie, the team's captain,
Speaker 3: came to the MLS Super Drafts. It is wild that
Speaker 3: bench saw he called it. You have to hit on
Speaker 3: those like once once in a while. But if we're
Speaker 3: if we're talking about RSL being in the playoff hunt,
Speaker 3: come shoot even July August, they need to have two
Speaker 3: players come in that are close to, if not better
Speaker 3: than most of the guys they have in the attack.
Speaker 2: I agree, especially in attack because the midfield is good.
Speaker 2: I mean they've got depth, certainly centrally when the holding
Speaker 2: mids and the Kelby Henry kids pretty good. The backline
Speaker 2: I think is all right maybe right back right, the
Speaker 2: red back appears.
Speaker 4: To be I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you asked your guy Pobs about this,
Speaker 3: but Katronis needs to play more in my opinion, like
Speaker 3: he's way more of a threat going forward, and maybe
Speaker 3: he's a little bit of a gambit that way, like
Speaker 3: you got to risk versus reward. He might not defend
Speaker 3: as thoroughly as the other dude, but it's a team
Speaker 3: that needs significant talent upgrades in order to contend, otherwise
Speaker 3: it could be curtains pretty fast.
Speaker 2: So I was at the match, freezing your bleepoff, man
Speaker 2: of the people sitting amongst the people in the arena, okay,
Speaker 2: in the stadium, and I had a great view of
Speaker 2: that red card.
Speaker 1: Did you see it on TV?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: Here's what felt rough because oh Haita had the ball
Speaker 2: and then the Dallas player pulled him intentionally. To me,
Speaker 2: you gotta blow the whistle there and then the play
Speaker 2: dies and then the peel red car never happens. But
Speaker 2: you saw it on television. I didn't see a replay.
Speaker 2: Did the tackle look like it was dangerous enough to
Speaker 2: be you know, straight red?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, I mean if you lift your if you
Speaker 4: show your studs.
Speaker 3: At a forty five degree angle, and you catch a
Speaker 3: guy above his ankle, like, man, we've seen guy's legs
Speaker 3: snap at that, like he didn't mean to do it,
Speaker 3: But it just happens sometimes, and I don't necessarily things
Speaker 3: happen so fast that even if a whistle would have
Speaker 3: been called, there's still a chance that Peel maybe didn't
Speaker 3: doesn't hear it and still goes for a fifty to
Speaker 3: fifty ball.
Speaker 4: But and once they slowed it down, it was lights out.
Speaker 3: I mean, like it unfortunate, but a bad break for
Speaker 3: a team that is just kind of middling at the moment.
Speaker 3: I mean, the win at Houston is is important and
Speaker 3: could be could be important later on in the year,
Speaker 3: but they have a lot of questions to answer going
Speaker 3: into the summer. Because you're looking at a guy, you know,
Speaker 3: a fan favorite that had a great showing with the
Speaker 3: US men's national team with the senior team a year,
Speaker 3: less than a year after not even making the Olympic
Speaker 3: team in Diego, Luna and teams are gonna come calling
Speaker 3: if they haven't already, and.
Speaker 4: That will be the hardest pr hit I think for ourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see I mean again less than a
Speaker 2: month away. And then that window closes. Christopher Camaradie. Typically
Speaker 2: our Friday staple is live in studio coming up on
Speaker 2: the other side, we'll switch gears from soccer, the Madison
Speaker 2: March continues, and CK's favorite topics spring football.
Speaker 1: We'll get to some of that.
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Speaker 2: stand this segment because Chris Camraadi is standing.
Speaker 1: Is it because of your back? How you feeling about it?
Speaker 1: It's getting better.
Speaker 4: I've been doing lots of stretching and yoga. Good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get you out though.
Speaker 4: Yeah every day.
Speaker 2: Now, see if somebody saw you on the street, they'd
Speaker 2: be like that guy does yoga.
Speaker 1: You're central casting.
Speaker 3: Man, Central casting for a lot of things that you
Speaker 3: don't do, by the way, and I don't do. My
Speaker 3: friends have always joked my my active members of the church.
Speaker 3: Friends have always said, like, I should go out for
Speaker 3: uh church movie? You because I because I mean, hey, man.
Speaker 1: You're a leman, You're a Laman.
Speaker 3: You know, if we're being historically accurate, could resemble a
Speaker 3: certain somebody too, you.
Speaker 4: Could, you know. Jac I didn't say it, but I did.
Speaker 1: Who's better to follow in? JC? Isn't that Meet the Parents? Right?
Speaker 1: How's your portfolio?
Speaker 4: It's Jewish? Hey, so is j C.
Speaker 1: We've been We've been over this.
Speaker 2: Best Ben Stiller movie, in my opinion, is to Meet
Speaker 2: the Parents. You hit me with a hipster Ben Stiller
Speaker 2: movie that I well, heavy heavyweights, That's what it was. Heavyweights. Man,
Speaker 2: Tony purkis is all time. I don't know, have you
Speaker 2: seen I haven't, no, no, but because I think you
Speaker 2: heard me talking on air or maybe I sent out
Speaker 2: a tweet back when I used to tweet, and I said, uh,
Speaker 2: I was watching Meet the Parents, And every time I
Speaker 2: rewatch Meet the Parents, I'm like, this is still he's
Speaker 2: best movie.
Speaker 1: And I think you hit me with the Heavyweights.
Speaker 3: And I have not seen it heavyweights, but the the
Speaker 3: prayer scene during Meet the Parents, day by day every
Speaker 3: day things like like my friends always joke like that
Speaker 3: that was me back in the day, Like when like you, Chris,
Speaker 3: will you say your prayer?
Speaker 4: No? But if that was me, that's what I would say.
Speaker 1: Would you were you ever called upon to pray? When
Speaker 1: you were you were, I.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't do it. You just trade said thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, thats a lot. I just want to play
Speaker 3: church ball. No, I hear you put putting.
Speaker 1: Up threes.
Speaker 2: Behind the back passes. To say no when you're asked
Speaker 2: to pray, it takes a lot of guts.
Speaker 4: Well, I know where I stand on the hierarchy.
Speaker 1: Porter. Have you been ever?
Speaker 2: Have you ever been asked to pray in a scenario
Speaker 2: situation where you weren't comfortable.
Speaker 1: You know where I'm from, sir, I know where you're from.
Speaker 1: But how do you handle it?
Speaker 2: Like most people, I think, give it a whirl, like
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller and Meet the Parents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, usually give it a whirl. Please bless this food.
Speaker 1: You can fake it. It's not hard.
Speaker 3: I when I moved here, I didn't know. I always
Speaker 3: thought nourish and strengthen was one word.
Speaker 4: What are these people saying? Nourish and strength. It's like,
Speaker 4: I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2: Nourish and strength in our bodies. Yeah, let's just keep
Speaker 2: doing this. Why not, let's just stay in the space.
Speaker 2: I'm actually kind of impressed. I have more respect for
Speaker 2: you for actually tapping out of the prayer than giving
Speaker 2: it a try.
Speaker 4: Were you an amen or an amen?
Speaker 1: Amen?
Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate a good amen everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a good amen. But I'm straight amen.
Speaker 2: I'm old school man, and I still get called upon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't give it a whirl. Three things.
Speaker 2: Now, all I want is a scene where you have
Speaker 2: been asked to pray because I believe your wife's family
Speaker 2: is of the faith.
Speaker 1: So, but they know the deal.
Speaker 4: They're so great. Yeah, they've never put me in.
Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me. Your wife your your wife rules.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Chris Camaraddi Liven Studio. We did a bunch on Sam
Speaker 2: Rockwell last segment. Now we're doing a little Ben Stiller
Speaker 2: Meet the Parents. I still think it's his best, but
Speaker 2: I've not seen heavyweights. I'll give it a whirl.
Speaker 4: Find the transit, try to get to the transition.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of things that we need to
Speaker 2: get to. Uh, you haven't covered Utah football for quite
Speaker 2: some time. Spring football is going on. Vibes seem high,
Speaker 2: But for spring football, don't the vibes have to be high?
Speaker 1: Isn't that the only thing that you are are.
Speaker 4: We playing audio of spring football interviews on the drive today?
Speaker 2: We have not done it on the drive, but ESPN seven,
Speaker 2: under sports dot Com, with every other sports stock radio
Speaker 2: show in the market, you will hear spring football.
Speaker 4: Sound So let me guess life.
Speaker 3: Contact went great, Leadership is improving. Still some positional battles
Speaker 3: to sort.
Speaker 1: Through, but we feel good about where we're at.
Speaker 4: Feel good about where we're at.
Speaker 3: Have people started putting Devin damp here on the Heisman
Speaker 3: watch list yet?
Speaker 1: I don't think we've gone that far, But apparently he
Speaker 1: looks really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get there.
Speaker 2: Nate Johnson athletes, Yeah, Okay, that's it. Apparently, Yeah doing
Speaker 2: some things.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's exciting for media members who
Speaker 3: still cover the youths to be able to watch twenty
Speaker 3: minutes of practice and only get to share certain things
Speaker 3: under the guise of a tyrannical rule. But listen, man,
Speaker 3: nobody knows what the Hell, this team's going to look
Speaker 3: like in the fall cour and we say that every year,
Speaker 3: but like this may be more so than in maybe
Speaker 3: ever under Kyle Winningham. The amount of roster turnover they've had,
Speaker 3: especially on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're lucky they invested in.
Speaker 3: The offensive line because the offensive line was good and
Speaker 3: they kept it intact, which is huge, So that will
Speaker 3: be a benefit for them going forward. But they got
Speaker 3: a new offensive coordinator, they got an exciting quarterback who
Speaker 3: can make a lot of things happen. But I'm going
Speaker 3: to be the guy that brings everyone down to earth
Speaker 3: and say, like he counted for forty touchdowns or whatever.
Speaker 3: Last year, he threw twelve interceptions and threw twelve picks
Speaker 3: or twelve touchdowns. Twelve picks not a great ratio. That
Speaker 3: will not work in the Big twelve. Obviously they know that.
Speaker 3: And wide receiver, man, we talk about this every year.
Speaker 3: Can you name one wide receiver on that roster right now?
Speaker 2: Dorian Singer is not on the team. Nope, So that
Speaker 2: that's gonna be an issue. Yeah, because they thought they
Speaker 2: were gonna grab him, you know, get him back. I
Speaker 2: will tell you one thing that stood out to me
Speaker 2: as I was listening to the sound, and look like you,
Speaker 2: I get the deal here. Spring football is to give
Speaker 2: the as to fix. That's what it is. You want
Speaker 2: the sound ESPN seven hundred sports dot com. The media
Speaker 2: members that sweat up there because they're so excited are
Speaker 2: the ones that need it straight in the vein absolutely
Speaker 2: coach with though on a number of occasions already has
Speaker 2: said the following, we have more positive energy in the
Speaker 2: building this year than we have in a while. That's
Speaker 2: the one thing Remayan Tenna went up a little bit
Speaker 2: like it hasn't been a one off where he just
Speaker 2: said it what he has said it multiple times. There's
Speaker 2: more positivity, more positive energy. And look, Kyle doesn't suffer fools.
Speaker 2: He's not one that's going to give you a bunch
Speaker 2: of lift lip service. So that to me did stand
Speaker 2: out as something as opposed to all the fluff and
Speaker 2: bs about Nate Johnson being fast.
Speaker 3: Well, I would well one a lot of that is
Speaker 3: on them. It's on the coaching staff. It starts with
Speaker 3: Kyle and his and his staff. I'm sure the toll
Speaker 3: of the injury is the last two years has been
Speaker 3: pretty remarkable. I can't you know, imagine going from two
Speaker 3: years ago when everybody was dropping like flies you fight,
Speaker 3: to an eight and four season in the last year
Speaker 3: of the Pack twelve, the best year of the Pac twelve,
Speaker 3: and then to go into last year with so much momentum,
Speaker 3: you know, be a shoe in for a lot of
Speaker 3: pundits for the college Football Playoff, and then to have
Speaker 3: the most frustrating season in Kyle Whittingham's tenure. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: going to a great on a lot of people, because
Speaker 3: in this day and age you have you're only as
Speaker 3: good as your quarterback. And Cam wasn't wasn't healthy the
Speaker 3: last couple of years, and that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 3: So now you have so many new faces, you have
Speaker 3: so many new coaches. You have a quarterback in Devon
Speaker 3: Dampier that has a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Not just locally.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people that I work with,
Speaker 3: Guys who grind tape, guys who are a lot smarter
Speaker 3: than me, have told me that, like they think, Devin
Speaker 3: Dampier has a very high ceiling and if Jason Beck
Speaker 3: can get this offense humming with the amount of talent
Speaker 3: they have, then Devin Dampier can be one of the
Speaker 3: best players in the Big two. But again, we don't
Speaker 3: know what it's going to look like. We don't know
Speaker 3: who Devin Dampier is throwing the ball to. And there
Speaker 3: are you know, the guys that are you know, sifting
Speaker 3: through the roster that are excited for the the guy
Speaker 3: who transferred from wherever state. We don't know what it
Speaker 3: looks like, dudes, and you will not until they take
Speaker 3: the field against Who do they play in the first week?
Speaker 3: Is it UCLA?
Speaker 4: On the road?
Speaker 1: Ucla?
Speaker 2: And then they have one of those the FBF FCS.
Speaker 1: Here's some money for kicking your head in game.
Speaker 2: I just thought it interesting that Kyle kept referencing more
Speaker 2: positive energy than in the past. And yes, you're right,
Speaker 2: I mean that is something that asked to trickle from
Speaker 2: the top down. And by the way, have we heard
Speaker 2: anything Porter, Have we heard anything on camp on cam Rising?
Speaker 4: Do we know what he's doing next year? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been silent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think and I want to be very clear,
Speaker 2: and I've maintained this, like camera right, and should ever
Speaker 2: pay for a beer in Salake ever, again, he should
Speaker 2: always be remembered as the legend that brought you ta.
Speaker 4: To Rose Bulls beer. You mean Cafe Rio whatever.
Speaker 2: It is, you know, with the what's the sauce that
Speaker 2: you put on the salad, which yeah, it's quite good
Speaker 2: launcher line. Cafe Rio had a moment, it did, and
Speaker 2: it's oh man.
Speaker 3: It's gone downhill at such a precipitous level that it
Speaker 3: is mind boggling. There were there were sorry to provide
Speaker 3: that tangent.
Speaker 1: No, no, you're good.
Speaker 2: There there were times where you have to wait in
Speaker 2: line for like an hour to get Cafe Rio back
Speaker 2: in the day anyway, non sequitor a Cafe Rio, a beer,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But I think the ambiguity around him
Speaker 2: in the final couple of years in that locker room,
Speaker 2: I think it greated on everybody. I don't think it
Speaker 2: was just fans. I don't think it was media. I
Speaker 2: think that was hard for everybody to deal with. And
Speaker 2: I think that's actually a distraction being removed that might
Speaker 2: free up some of this positive energy that Kyle's talking.
Speaker 3: About, right, But to be fair, it's a distraction that
Speaker 3: was largely caused by the program yep the year before,
Speaker 3: not largely entirely because they refuse to just divulge what
Speaker 3: happened with Cam and we found out, you know, later
Speaker 3: on that his knee was basically shred to pieces. Last
Speaker 3: year is a little more like you can't be mad,
Speaker 3: Like the Cam should have thrown the ball away against
Speaker 3: Baylor gets pushed into the Gatorade cart. Listen that happens.
Speaker 3: Then the first game he came back, when he probably
Speaker 3: wasn't even ready to come back, he like breaks his
Speaker 3: ankle or whatever.
Speaker 4: So it's like, come on, dudes.
Speaker 3: Sometimes again, I'm gonna say this ad nauseum, you can't
Speaker 3: be mad at a football player for getting hurt.
Speaker 2: No, no any venom or vichrire al towards Cam was
Speaker 2: entirely misguided. And I don't live online, so I don't
Speaker 2: know what those idiots were tweeting at him, but you
Speaker 2: would see things here or there. But those are people
Speaker 2: you should ignore anyway. But a five and seven season
Speaker 2: and coach Wit comes back, I do think there's this.
Speaker 2: And I was looking at just one of these arbitrary
Speaker 2: preseason Big twelve lists or whatever, and I think it
Speaker 2: was two four to seven.
Speaker 1: I'll have to look.
Speaker 2: Utah was picked seventh in the Big twelve in the
Speaker 2: list that I saw, And I do have to wonder.
Speaker 2: And this is kind of a thing we do here,
Speaker 2: whether it's Utah or BYU. We want to shock the world.
Speaker 2: We want the chip on the shoulder. We want nobody
Speaker 2: believes in us. We want nobody's talking.
Speaker 3: About any time. It's the only time they have good
Speaker 3: seasons is when nobody's relying on that.
Speaker 2: So to remove the pressure that you reference earlier, first
Speaker 2: year in the Big twelve, you're gonna win the thing,
Speaker 2: You're gonna go to the CFP. Now that's expanded. If
Speaker 2: the list that I saw is accurate of what most
Speaker 2: prognosticators will publish when we get a little closer to
Speaker 2: the season, and Utah is thought to be middle of
Speaker 2: the middle of the pack Big twelve instead of the
Speaker 2: veguas favorite to win the thing, maybe that plays in
Speaker 2: a Kyle's hand.
Speaker 4: Oh without a doubt.
Speaker 3: I mean, like we can go back as recently as
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, the Cam.
Speaker 4: Dude with Charlie Brewer start like Charlie Brewer got.
Speaker 3: The nod, and then Cam comes into say Diego State
Speaker 3: and things change, like nobody was counting on them to
Speaker 3: do it in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: Then in twenty twenty two, like they had.
Speaker 3: They needed a boatload of things to go their way
Speaker 3: the last week, and it did, and they and they
Speaker 3: won another PAC twelve title two thousand and eight. Man,
Speaker 3: Like I was there, I was a student, I was
Speaker 3: a beat writer on the team. Like nobody thought that
Speaker 3: they were going to go undefeated. They barely beat a
Speaker 3: bunch of bad teams. Like it is interesting how any
Speaker 3: time that they're they're counted on to do something big,
Speaker 3: they don't necessarily live up to expectation. So I mean,
Speaker 3: but that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: They're still a program that is, you know, behind the
Speaker 3: blue bloods in terms of talent and being able to
Speaker 3: retain talent. And that is the reality that they will
Speaker 3: live in for a long time because there are always
Speaker 3: going to be the haves and the have nots and
Speaker 3: Utah's you know, buzz through that glass ceiling a.
Speaker 4: Couple of times. But they're still in a lot of
Speaker 4: people's mind. They're outsiders.
Speaker 2: And the list I saw, I think had BYU six,
Speaker 2: It's not like people think byuhually win the conference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they would be on K State, Arizona State.
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I'd have to pull up the list, but
Speaker 2: it was the list I saw was b Yu said
Speaker 2: qutah seven.
Speaker 3: That is fascinating to me because I can't think off
Speaker 3: the top of my head how many guys b why
Speaker 3: you lost to the to either the portal or the draft.
Speaker 1: Your boy Tyler Battie, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, sorry, yeah, bad Baddie was a big loss.
Speaker 3: I think they lost another dude on the defensive line,
Speaker 3: but they got Keanutanovasa and they keep Jake Rhetzlaf.
Speaker 4: I think the receiver kids coming back to right Chase Roberts.
Speaker 2: Roberts so the receiver room down there, stat Yeah, it
Speaker 2: has been for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane. I just think.
Speaker 3: Once again it's going to be an all you know,
Speaker 3: up for grabs type deal on the Big twelve. I
Speaker 3: I guess I would say I would costion people to say, like,
Speaker 3: don't pay too much attention to what the preseason polls
Speaker 3: are going to be from the coaches in the media
Speaker 3: because those things rarely ever pan out.
Speaker 1: At UCLA home against cal Poly and then.
Speaker 2: It's the post, it's the Porter Larsen Bowls.
Speaker 4: Ready to go? Do remote?
Speaker 1: I'm not do we remote? In Laramie.
Speaker 2: But Porter has volunteered to cover the game and then
Speaker 2: stay there for three weeks. I believe, Do I have
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 4: Three weeks?
Speaker 1: Porter is pumped.
Speaker 3: Porter is going to do Man on the street about
Speaker 3: if you if you leave me and Laramie for three weeks,
Speaker 3: you might have to come get me. All right, happy
Speaker 3: to do that, but yeah, then it's the Porter Larsen Bowl.
Speaker 3: Will you commit to going to cover the game in Laramie?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean if we get multiple friends to go, Yeah,
Speaker 4: who are we.
Speaker 1: Going to get to go to Laramie?
Speaker 4: JP?
Speaker 2: JP won't go to Laramie. JP will say that's not
Speaker 2: a real place and they'll refuse to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there you go.
Speaker 1: Did you fill out a bracket?
Speaker 3: I did? What?
Speaker 1: That's an upset.
Speaker 3: So my buddies and I who I grew up with
Speaker 3: one random friend who knows nothing about basketball.
Speaker 1: These are BYU bros some of.
Speaker 4: Them some Utah bros. That's it's an amalgamation.
Speaker 1: Okay, like it.
Speaker 3: They'll they'll send, they'll send the invite, the ESPN invite.
Speaker 3: Do let me tell you where I am right now?
Speaker 2: Sure, I honestly thought there was no way you even
Speaker 2: did that because My guess is you don't watch. You're
Speaker 2: not grinding on college basketball. No, it's just fun, and
Speaker 2: you grind on tape, just not college hoops. Correct, Let's see,
Speaker 2: you need to fill some time while I find this. Well,
Speaker 2: you should be in a decent place because it's basically
Speaker 2: been chock Like an idiot. I picked up sets because
Speaker 2: I've watched the tournament of my whole life, and usually
Speaker 2: there are upsets, but there have not been upsets. There
Speaker 2: are zero Cinderellas left in the sweet sixteen. Do not
Speaker 2: sell me on Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I was a ten seed.
Speaker 2: Calipari has like four pros, so you can't be like
Speaker 2: anybody who filled out of bracket should still be somewhat
Speaker 2: alive because most of the highest seeds are still remaining.
Speaker 3: So out of eight guys, where do you think I
Speaker 3: sit right now? I'm gonna say fourth, second, second, my
Speaker 3: percentage of seventy point three?
Speaker 1: Do you have your final four up?
Speaker 4: I picked Saint John's, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I picked Saint John's as well.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who my final four was were Saint
Speaker 3: John's Houston? You picked Duke, and then you probably picked
Speaker 3: I think I picked Florida.
Speaker 1: Florida was in the.
Speaker 2: Saint John's region, So okay, Florida will go because Saint
Speaker 2: John's will not the other region.
Speaker 1: Auburn's the one seed. I think Michigan State's the two seed.
Speaker 4: For some reason.
Speaker 2: I have Michigan State because I think Auburn's gonna lose
Speaker 2: to Michigan coming up.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad pick.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I picked, Yeah, I picked.
Speaker 3: I picked Auburn to beat Saint John's and then Houston
Speaker 3: to beat Duke, and then Houston to win it.
Speaker 1: What do you have by you doing?
Speaker 4: I had him going to sweet sixteen, so.
Speaker 2: You have them losing Alabama, so you think that's what's
Speaker 2: going to happen. I mean b YU has been tremendously impressive,
Speaker 2: and Alabama and by you play a very similar style
Speaker 2: like Alabama is not Houston level physical or big or strong.
Speaker 2: What they are is offensively, offensively elite and fast, Payston
Speaker 2: space grinding on tape. Nowhere a ball the line to
Speaker 2: open up b YU plus five and a half that
Speaker 2: moved twice towards broken me on it's a four point
Speaker 2: five point spread. There's no look, it's the tournament, so
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say there's no way, B, why you
Speaker 2: can beat Duke because that's who they'd see if they
Speaker 2: can beat Alabama.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be stunned if they win tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Oh No, I mean anybody can win this tournament right now.
Speaker 3: I don't think there is a world beater in this
Speaker 3: tournament right now. And I'm interested to see how Byu
Speaker 3: handles that Sears kid because I've seen him go off
Speaker 3: on a few highlights. And I guess thinking of like
Speaker 3: guard play, B. Why you've seen Caleb Love, But Caleb
Speaker 3: Love's super streaky. Houston has some good guards, but like
Speaker 3: the Seers kid is like a ball in the hand,
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna go try to score twenty five a game.
Speaker 3: And I don't notice, B, why you have a defensive
Speaker 3: minded guard because your guy Deman, I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's the type of on the ball stopper that's going
Speaker 3: to be able to provide him fits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet they put them a wit mag kid
Speaker 2: on him and then Trey Stewart off the bench. I
Speaker 2: think those will be the two players at guard Sears.
Speaker 2: But Sears and this is a lazy cop because they're
Speaker 2: both left handed point guards. He plays a lot like
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson a lot like Jalen Brunson, and he's first
Speaker 2: team All American. Alabama is good. They were in the
Speaker 2: final four year ago. They lost a really good game
Speaker 2: to Yukon and it's a tough ask. Oh by the way,
Speaker 2: blonde just moves. Alabama's now again a five point five
Speaker 2: point favorite. So as of this morning, it was down
Speaker 2: to four and a half. But you got to give
Speaker 2: Kevin Young a lot of credit. Man like this program,
Speaker 2: and there's a chance ck I think Jegor is gone.
Speaker 2: I think he's played his way back into the top ten.
Speaker 1: I think he real leaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he leaves. He look, he's all all
Speaker 2: of six'. Nine he's a great, passer he's got a great,
Speaker 2: handle he's got a really good. Feel the shot has
Speaker 2: been better in the. TOURNAMENT i can see why pro
Speaker 2: scouts like. HIM a month and a half, AGO i
Speaker 2: would have questioned, it but they might get everyone else
Speaker 2: everyone else.
Speaker 4: Back.
Speaker 2: Now richie's twenty. Three so if You're Richie saunders and
Speaker 2: you GET nba, feedback like if you leave now you
Speaker 2: will be. Drafted you probably have to go because you're
Speaker 2: twenty three years. Old but if he gets feedback like your.
Speaker 2: Borderline they Get richie, back they Get dollon, back they
Speaker 2: get everybody else.
Speaker 1: Back, Well Travin nell is two years older Than.
Speaker 2: Luka, doncers so he's leaving your, guy but everybody else
Speaker 2: they could get.
Speaker 1: Back and this debants a. KID i don't know if
Speaker 1: you've seen him. Play it's.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous how ready is to be austoin right? AWAY byu
Speaker 2: might enter next year as a top ten.
Speaker 4: Team so CAN i throw a curveball at?
Speaker 1: You do it change up?
Speaker 3: Potentially why aren't we Giving Mark pope enough credit for
Speaker 3: building the infrastructure of the team That Kevin young has right?
Speaker 3: Now BECAUSE i know Yegor is was a big, ad
Speaker 3: but pretty much every other contributor right now was A
Speaker 3: Mark pope.
Speaker 2: RECRUIT i Think, mark it's a tremendous amount of. Credit
Speaker 2: and by the, Way kentucky's still. Playing, Yeah Mark pope's
Speaker 2: a good.
Speaker 4: Coach And mark only took one guy with him FROM.
Speaker 2: Byu he Took Jack Jackson robinson and Then Colin chandler shout,
Speaker 2: Out Davis county was A byu.
Speaker 1: Commit oh did he commit To?
Speaker 2: Kentucky but he never played AT byu and he's playing
Speaker 2: For mark as a, FRESHMAN i did not know. This
Speaker 2: he's got mission, legs like he's now starting to look, okay,
Speaker 2: okay so he got some he's getting minutes in the,
Speaker 2: tournament but he was buried at the end of the.
Speaker 1: Bench and he's.
Speaker 2: Good colin's a really good. Player So mark did Take Colin.
Speaker 2: Chandler he did Take Jackson. Robinson jackson's hurt right. Now
Speaker 2: But mark Wanted richie And dallen and they both said
Speaker 2: no and stayed in. Promo think about what that team
Speaker 2: would look like without those. Two it's a much different.
Speaker 2: Year that's a good.
Speaker 3: Point and you, know we talk a lot about the
Speaker 3: the gravitas That Kevin Young carey's having been in THE
Speaker 3: nba for such a long.
Speaker 4: TIME i THINK i think beyond.
Speaker 3: The landing a future lottery pick in Jegor, DEMON i
Speaker 3: think him being able to retain the guys that might
Speaker 3: have wanted to leave is even more impressive, because as you,
Speaker 3: said like If Richie, Saunderson Dallen hall, leave whether it's
Speaker 3: To kentucky or anywhere.
Speaker 4: Else like there's no WAY byu is where it is right,
Speaker 4: now like not no.
Speaker 2: Chance and what we have ck now is proof of concept,
Speaker 2: Right and SO i know the online debate, is, Hey,
Speaker 2: utah you're copying us in all, right it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: like who's saying that idiots. Online and ultimately the deal
Speaker 2: is in sports on any, level when you see something that,
Speaker 2: works you, say how DO i get some of?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Right whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is So utah goes all in On Alex Alex. Jensen
Speaker 2: we now have the contract. Details it's a six year.
Speaker 2: Deal so they're committed To. Alex Coach, chill former high
Speaker 2: school teammate Of Tony. Jones he's now the lead. Assistant
Speaker 2: and Then Wes wilcox is brought in as the new general.
Speaker 2: Manager The Wes willcox iires really interesting because he is
Speaker 2: now officially the highest ranking SITTING nba front office member
Speaker 2: to take a college job thirty nine years old by all,
Speaker 2: accounts very, smart analytically.
Speaker 1: Driven that became official.
Speaker 2: Today So utah leaning into this pro model that's worked
Speaker 2: so well AT Byu.
Speaker 4: And correct me If i'm. Wrong Didn't wes Hire alex.
Speaker 1: To be The Canton?
Speaker 3: Charge, yeah the lead, coach the Great Canton, charge WHO
Speaker 3: i think no longer exist or have a different. Name but,
Speaker 3: YEAH i Mean utah's going for, it and they needed
Speaker 3: to and it's a long time, overdue, frankly AND i
Speaker 3: think the six year contract is you, know. NECESSARY i
Speaker 3: haven't looked INTO i Know josh And jason at the
Speaker 3: trip had. DETAILS i don't know what the buyout is For.
Speaker 3: Alex should they have a rousing start and, people you,
Speaker 3: know a bigger school comes, Calling but three point six to,
Speaker 3: start it's impressive.
Speaker 4: NUMBER i think that's the number they needed to Pay
Speaker 4: alex to leave THE.
Speaker 3: NBA i know fans are excited about the prospect of
Speaker 3: adding you, know other former legacy members of the of
Speaker 3: the program to the coaching. Staff but, again man like
Speaker 3: these guys got a hit on players in the portal
Speaker 3: because that that roster is devoid of a lot of.
Speaker 3: Talent AND i don't know If Ezra sar is going
Speaker 3: to come. BACK i think pretty much he's the one
Speaker 3: guy THAT i would say you kind of want to
Speaker 3: go hard at because he was very impressive this. YEAR
Speaker 3: i know YOU'RE i know you're in on your your
Speaker 3: guy From Tim, feu the kid who's transferred from Y,
Speaker 3: YEAH i know you're big on. Him but Coach Chill Wes.
Speaker 3: Alex they have a lot of work to.
Speaker 2: Do i'm starting to feel that this is going to
Speaker 2: be a clean. SLATE i wouldn't be surprised if nobody's, back.
Speaker 4: AND i don't think that'd be the worst thing in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 2: Either AND i kind of feel bad For Josh, eilert
Speaker 2: who's going to join us On, friday who's still coaching the,
Speaker 2: team preparing them to play in The College Basketball Crown
Speaker 2: tournament that you're very.
Speaker 4: Familiar oh, Yeah and who else is going to be?
Speaker 4: There Butler Coastal. Carolina butler is the first round.
Speaker 1: OPPONENT i Think Arizona state's there, too that's, Interesting, Butler
Speaker 1: georgetown is.
Speaker 2: There there's actually some good college basketball brands that are all.
Speaker 4: In, vegas, right all In. Vegas all it's a good.
Speaker 2: Concept, well and it's on national television and if you,
Speaker 2: win you get three HUNDRED k and you can split
Speaker 2: it amongst your.
Speaker 1: Players like it's not. Nothing it's not, awesome but it's not.
Speaker 3: Nothing it's better than THE cbi or the E I
Speaker 3: t or no offense but the nit leaving the.
Speaker 1: Garden, Man, oh, brutal. Brutal one more thing here for.
Speaker 2: You ck is the guy that in this, market maybe
Speaker 2: the only guy in this market that actually knows the
Speaker 2: tone and tenor of The sanders. Family Dion sanders all
Speaker 2: the work he did In. Colorado The giants Signed porter's
Speaker 2: Boy Russell, wilson, so which means there's a shot That
Speaker 2: cleveland Takes shador. TOO i don't know if they're going
Speaker 2: to so Apparently tennessee is all on in Cam.
Speaker 1: Wore that's the. Buzz the drafts about a month.
Speaker 2: Away we have seen in the Past john L, Way
Speaker 2: Eli manning others have an opportunity to basically force their
Speaker 2: way out of where they were drafted to land at
Speaker 2: an organization that the reps surrounding the player believed was
Speaker 2: a better landing spot for.
Speaker 1: Them If cleveland Goes shador, too Does dion get?
Speaker 4: Involved, well here's the.
Speaker 3: Problem If cleveland doesn't take, him then who how far
Speaker 3: does he? Slide because, like here's like you think The
Speaker 3: jets can say, no it's is it? SEVEN i think
Speaker 3: The Jets.
Speaker 4: Jets are at. Seven here's the.
Speaker 3: Thing dion smart enough To he's already made some media
Speaker 3: around saying, like due to his experience as both a
Speaker 3: player and you, know a former media, member that some
Speaker 3: teams allegedly will trash players publicly at the at the
Speaker 3: hope of them falling to them like they, want they
Speaker 3: want to kind of little poison the. Well But i'm
Speaker 3: just looking at, it, man like The waters if you,
Speaker 3: will like So cleveland. Too he's not going to go
Speaker 3: To he's not going to go To New, England. Jacksonville
Speaker 3: he's not going to go to The. VEGAS i mean
Speaker 3: The jets would be it?
Speaker 4: NOT i Mean?
Speaker 3: Carolina, like do they give up On Bryce young this?
Speaker 3: EARLY i, Don't, So i'm JUST i think it's The.
Speaker 4: Jets you think it's The, jets Justin, fields he Sucks
Speaker 4: cleveland or The.
Speaker 1: Jets, well if You're, dionne at least you Have New
Speaker 1: york with The.
Speaker 2: Jets but that's an organization And i'm a fan THAT
Speaker 2: i would not want my son to play. For LIKE i,
Speaker 2: UNDERSTAND i don't Think Zach wilson was ever gonna be,
Speaker 2: awesome BUT i think he would have had a much
Speaker 2: better chance to at least evolve if he landed somewhere
Speaker 2: else outside of The.
Speaker 1: Jets it's a cluster because the owner's a, moron.
Speaker 3: And if like For shador's, sake like is if he,
Speaker 3: slides is it a bad. Thing if he goes to
Speaker 3: a team that maybe he sits.
Speaker 1: Like, NO i think that would be the best thing for.
Speaker 4: Him, yeah and.
Speaker 3: At that point you're even looking at teams LIKE i
Speaker 3: Mean indianapolis at. FOURTEEN i, mean if he fell to
Speaker 3: twelve and The cowboys took, him what would what Would porter?
Speaker 5: Do shador backing UP dak for a couple of. YEARS
Speaker 5: i don't hate it if it's the. TWELVE i, mean
Speaker 5: if he falls, there why not take a flyer on.
Speaker 5: It i'm also one who has been you, know well
Speaker 5: documented about my frustrations with the averageness OF dak for ten.
Speaker 1: Years rather have an average team than a bad team
Speaker 1: like The.
Speaker 2: Jets you're A niners, guy, Right, Yeah, Well, chris that's our,
Speaker 2: time little Uh Sam, rockwell Little Ben, Stiller Sam, rockwell