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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped off what need.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Come running just as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help come man.

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<v Speaker 4>Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello everyone, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 5>We solve problems, We answer questions, we take complaints, We

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<v Speaker 5>promote good stuff. You know this show talks about buying

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<v Speaker 5>and selling. Where to buy, when to buy, how to buy,

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<v Speaker 5>why to buy? And you know I've been with Courtney

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<v Speaker 5>for so long at Buy and Build dot Net.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that place. I just love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I sometimes crave projects just so I can go there

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<v Speaker 5>Buy and Build. I want to talk about right now,

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<v Speaker 5>right off the top, because they have an auction going

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<v Speaker 5>on now. I want to I want to make something clear.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to wait for an auction to get

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<v Speaker 5>great deals. Buy Build is open every single day and

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<v Speaker 5>you can go there and have incredible projects, including turnkey.

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<v Speaker 5>I know a lot of people get confused, what is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it for contractors? Is it for us? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>for do it your selfers? Is it for new projects?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it for it's for everything? Courtney, can you think

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<v Speaker 5>of something that you're not? I mean everyone can go there,

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<v Speaker 5>do it yourselfers, people who want to hire a contractor,

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<v Speaker 5>contractors themselves before we get into the auction. Buy and build,

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<v Speaker 5>as I used to say, is a big giant, ugly warehouse.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's actually a beautiful warehouse.

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<v Speaker 5>Since you've moved many years ago, you're on five sixty

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<v Speaker 5>South Lapan. Can you just describe the buy and build

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<v Speaker 5>experience first as a consumer going to five sixty South Lapan.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Absolutely. When you come into our store, you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to see, you know, a cabinet show room. You're going

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<v Speaker 7>to se kitchen cabinets installed with granite faucets, all the

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<v Speaker 7>stuff so you can get some really good design ideas.

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<v Speaker 7>We've also installed every type of cabinet that we sell,

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<v Speaker 7>so corner cabinets, blind corner cabinets, lazy Susan cabinets, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>glass doors, all the different stuff, so you can see

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<v Speaker 7>everything that's available. And then the pricing is that of

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<v Speaker 7>one of those places you have to pay a membership

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<v Speaker 7>fee in order to buy from. We basically have distributor pricing.

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<v Speaker 7>We sell well below anybody else in town just because

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<v Speaker 7>of our model on We bring it in without using

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<v Speaker 7>a distributor. We bring it in directly from the manufacturer.

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<v Speaker 7>We avoid the entire middleman markup and we're able to

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<v Speaker 7>sell it at less.

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<v Speaker 5>And there are To make this clear, there are no

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<v Speaker 5>membership fees. It's a straight you go, You walk in

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<v Speaker 5>and that makes you a member. You just walk in

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<v Speaker 5>and there's no membership fee. There's nothing. You just buy

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<v Speaker 5>what you want, when you want, and how you want.

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<v Speaker 5>Now as far as the level of care and help,

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<v Speaker 5>they can buy the stuff even slat, for example, cabin

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<v Speaker 5>and assemble them themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>What most people don't realize is cabinets.

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<v Speaker 5>All cabinets usually come in flats and they get assembled. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>can you buy your cabinets flat and assemble them yourselves

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<v Speaker 5>to save even more money.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, absolutely, we do that a lot with the contractors especially.

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<v Speaker 7>They'll come in with their pickup truck. You can put

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<v Speaker 7>a whole kitchen into the back of a pickup truck

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<v Speaker 7>if they're unassembled, and then they'll take them to the

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<v Speaker 7>project site and assemble them and install them.

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<v Speaker 5>You do sell them also assembled and then you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>do you have turnkey projects? If I say, hey, Courtney,

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<v Speaker 5>can you design me this kitchen and install it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, absolutely, we are set up for design. We can

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<v Speaker 7>come out and actually do measurements at your home as well.

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<v Speaker 7>We can install the granite countertops as well as the cabinets.

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<v Speaker 7>So basically, when you come in, you're going to save

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<v Speaker 7>a ton of money. And you know, in most cases

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<v Speaker 7>when we do a bid, it's somebody that's come in

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<v Speaker 7>with a bid from one of your larger stores, and

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<v Speaker 7>we can do the installation granted and granted installation all

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<v Speaker 7>for the price and just the.

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<v Speaker 5>Cabinets and then and a lot of people sometimes they

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<v Speaker 5>go in there with their contractor and they go shopping

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<v Speaker 5>together and then you guys can help them.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, now, what what do.

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<v Speaker 5>You primarily have on your normal inventory days? You primarily

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<v Speaker 5>have countertops and cabinets?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Correct, Kitchen cabinets is our specialty. Kitchen and bathroom cabinets,

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<v Speaker 7>and then countertops just kind of go along with cabinets.

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<v Speaker 7>We've secured some great suppliers locally that we buy slab

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<v Speaker 7>granted from for very good pricing, and we turn around

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<v Speaker 7>and save you money and not only the material, but

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<v Speaker 7>we also have great deals on our installation and we

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<v Speaker 7>have fantastic installers for both.

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<v Speaker 5>And these are not these are not seconds, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not talking about seconds or damaged goods. These are

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<v Speaker 5>just these are just oversupply that you buy from the manufacturers.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not even oversupply. It is actually ordered her piece

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<v Speaker 7>buy me directly from the manufacturer. It just gets shipped

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<v Speaker 7>to Denver to a middleman who then marks it up

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<v Speaker 7>and turns and sells it to twenty of your big

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<v Speaker 7>box stores. There's not that second markup, so it goes

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<v Speaker 7>directly from the manufacturer right to our dock, and then

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<v Speaker 7>we turn around and sell it without that.

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<v Speaker 6>See that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, let's talk about how with all of this, how

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<v Speaker 5>did the auction come about? Because this is the one

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<v Speaker 5>where I don't want people to get confused. The auction

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<v Speaker 5>will have way more than the kitchen counters and cabinets.

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<v Speaker 6>How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, so what's funny about it is that's actually how

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<v Speaker 7>Buy and Build started. Our name was Buy and Build

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<v Speaker 7>Auctions when we first started, and all we did was auctions,

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<v Speaker 7>and so we traveled around through Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, and

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<v Speaker 7>we would rent a three h building and bring in

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<v Speaker 7>two semi truckloads of merchandise and sell it all off

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<v Speaker 7>to the highest bidder doing you know, five sixty seven

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<v Speaker 7>of those auctions. We ended up with some merchandise that

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<v Speaker 7>didn't sell at those auctions, and I was bringing it

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<v Speaker 7>back to Denver, and I was storing it in a

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<v Speaker 7>warehouse in Denver, and then we'd go put it back

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<v Speaker 7>on a truck and bring it out to another auction

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<v Speaker 7>and sell it. And it turned into a thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>we were storing it in between auctions. People would come

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<v Speaker 7>in and say, Hey, how much do you want for that?

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<v Speaker 7>How much do you want for that? And I learned

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<v Speaker 7>that I could sell the stuff out of a warehouse

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<v Speaker 7>and do auctions. And then it really turned into if

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<v Speaker 7>I want to save people a lot of money, I

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<v Speaker 7>have to start buying in bulk, and I have to

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<v Speaker 7>start bringing in container loads from the manufacturers to my warehouse.

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<v Speaker 7>We have to stock them here and then we can

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<v Speaker 7>still take them to auction, but we're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>to in order to get our pricing down and really

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<v Speaker 7>have a competitive edge over everybody, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>to order direct. And so we started doing that and

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<v Speaker 7>opened our doors to the public and started selling cabinets,

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<v Speaker 7>and I remember we first started twenty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 7>a month was a big deal. To us, and we've

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<v Speaker 7>grown quite a bit since then, and we sell a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of kitchen cabinets.

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<v Speaker 6>So so how often do you have these auctions?

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<v Speaker 5>How often do you have these big, giant auctions that

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have. These are incredible, you know, Courtney,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe sometimes when I saw hardwood going for

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<v Speaker 5>I see kitchen sinks going kitchen sinks for fifteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen it. I mean, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of these sinks, these pedestal sinks that you'll buy

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<v Speaker 5>for like hundreds of dollars, I've seen them go for

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, so absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Now now, so this auction, how often do you have

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<v Speaker 5>this auction? I want to I want to keep people

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<v Speaker 5>in because I want them to start going to it.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to get a bump here, the Martino bump,

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<v Speaker 5>the Troubleshooter bump, the Mark Major bump. So tell me

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<v Speaker 5>about the auctions. How often do you have them?

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<v Speaker 7>Do? We do them about twice a year. We typically

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<v Speaker 7>do one in around November, kind of the before the

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<v Speaker 7>Christmas time, things where we can you know, push some

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<v Speaker 7>gift items as well. As you know, a brand new

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<v Speaker 7>kitchen is a great Christmas item gate Christmas present. So

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<v Speaker 7>we have one usually right before the holidays, and then

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<v Speaker 7>we do one in the springtime, right before the summer,

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<v Speaker 7>in the building season when people tend to do a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of construction improvements.

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<v Speaker 5>So number one right now, I want to say Courtney

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<v Speaker 5>has a wonderful website, buy and Build dot net. But

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<v Speaker 5>the auction you're going to find on rollerauction dot com

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<v Speaker 5>and when you go there, right on the front page. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>Roller Auction, by the way, does a lot of auctions, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and one of them is the buy and Build auction.

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<v Speaker 5>One of their biggest ones, buy and Build. So if

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<v Speaker 5>you go right now to roller R O L L

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<v Speaker 5>E R. Rollerauction dot com, you're going to see on

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<v Speaker 5>the front page, top left, you're going to see buy

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<v Speaker 5>and Build. You click on buy and Build and that's

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<v Speaker 5>where I am right now, and you will see everything

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<v Speaker 5>that is up for grabs. Now, how does how does

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<v Speaker 5>the auction? How does it operate? Tell me I'm on here?

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<v Speaker 5>Now what do I do? I go and look for

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<v Speaker 5>categories or products and.

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<v Speaker 6>I bid on them. Now do I get noticed this?

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<v Speaker 7>I like to just kind of I like to scroll

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<v Speaker 7>through the whole thing just to see, you know, what

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<v Speaker 7>ye're all in there, because you'll never know. There's some

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<v Speaker 7>cool gift items and some really fun stuff. And really,

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<v Speaker 7>once you are set up, you hit log in the bid.

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<v Speaker 7>If you already have an account, you'll log in. If

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<v Speaker 7>you don't, you'll set up an account. You'll put your

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<v Speaker 7>name and your credit card number and stuff in there,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you can start placing bids. Right now, there's

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<v Speaker 7>one day and three hours left on most of the items,

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<v Speaker 7>So tomorrow afternoon at one o'clock PM, the first three

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<v Speaker 7>items are going to close.

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<v Speaker 5>And then explain the significant of that. Explain the significance

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<v Speaker 5>you say, you know, even though you want people to

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<v Speaker 5>go to the auction, you know all day, toward the end,

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<v Speaker 5>it gets exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>Explain that correct. So, Yeah, if you're bidding on an

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<v Speaker 7>item and it's you know, live, and it's getting ready

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<v Speaker 7>to close in like three minutes and then somebody out

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<v Speaker 7>bids you with sixty seconds left, it goes into what

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<v Speaker 7>they call extended bidding for another two minutes, so it

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<v Speaker 7>gives you an opportunity to counterbid. Somebody can't steal an

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<v Speaker 7>item out from under you at the last second, just

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<v Speaker 7>by you know, waiting till ten seconds left and then bidding.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll go into an extended bidding period where you're actually

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<v Speaker 7>allowed to bid against them, and it will continue to

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<v Speaker 7>go into an ext bidding period until there's two minutes

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<v Speaker 7>of no activity on that item. That allows everybody to

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<v Speaker 7>you know, actually place bids and not be undercut by

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<v Speaker 7>somebody right at the last second, because you know they

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<v Speaker 7>were ye paying attention in three seconds.

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<v Speaker 6>And I want to make it clear.

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<v Speaker 5>They're bread and butters on there, all the household goods, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and the kitchen and bass stuff. But then Courtney, for fun,

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of other stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I see a sporting goods category, and I swear to

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<v Speaker 7>It's a stand up paddle board.

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<v Speaker 7>These paddleboard cool popular these days in Colorado. And so

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<v Speaker 7>that's my My brother has a salvage business and he

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<v Speaker 7>gets in all sorts of you know, interesting items through

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<v Speaker 7>to get sometimes until he unloads the trucks. And so

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<v Speaker 7>it's some really cool unique items that we don't have

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<v Speaker 7>with the previous sale.

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<v Speaker 5>And what I love you have hand tools as well,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there are so many.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to really as court and you say, go

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<v Speaker 5>on roller auction dot com, hit buy and build and

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<v Speaker 6>That's what you do first.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you browse, then you go back, maybe put in

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<v Speaker 5>clothes and in those last few minutes conceal a deal.

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<v Speaker 5>What are some of the ridiculous sales you've seen go

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you mentioned a couple of them. I've seen some

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<v Speaker 7>you know, two hundred dollar kitchen thinks go for five dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>Got those pedestals thinks go as low as five dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>and those are you know, store kitchen cabinet sets. We

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<v Speaker 7>tend to do okay on at these sales, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>people absolutely steal stuff from us, and that's what these

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<v Speaker 7>auctions are for. You know, the bidder has the advantage

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<v Speaker 7>and they have the opportunity to keep the prices low

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<v Speaker 7>and get stuff all below retail. And then this is

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<v Speaker 7>all brand new, top quality merchandise. None of this is used,

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<v Speaker 7>all brand new stuff that was brought in specifically for

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<v Speaker 7>this sale. So when you look at the kitchens, for instance,

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<v Speaker 7>they all fit together. They all you know, line up

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<v Speaker 7>and are designed to fit in a kitchen. So these

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<v Speaker 7>aren't just seconds that are lying around our warehouse. This

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<v Speaker 7>is all top quality, brand new stuff. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember one time I was looking for I was

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<v Speaker 5>was looking at light fixtures. There was a chandelier I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted for over the dining room table that I swear

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<v Speaker 5>to god, Courtney was twenty four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>At places you had one.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it was the exact one, but

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<v Speaker 5>it looked exactly like it. And I remember seeing a

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty five bucks and I followed it along and

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<v Speaker 5>that dating thing went for like one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five dollars. I mean that is incredible. I mean this

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<v Speaker 5>was years ago when we were doing the house. I

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<v Speaker 5>know you remember because you helped me do the garage.

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<v Speaker 5>So okay, Courtney, So right now rollerauction dot Com, look

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<v Speaker 5>for Buy and Build and then we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to you later in the show to see how things

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<v Speaker 5>are going. And it's officially open right now, is that right?

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<v Speaker 7>That is correct? You can place bids currently and they'll

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<v Speaker 7>start closing tomorrow at one DM.

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<v Speaker 5>And don't forget buy and Build in general at five

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<v Speaker 5>sixty South Wolpand like I said, I've known Courtney for

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<v Speaker 5>so long and have been sending people there buy and

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<v Speaker 5>build dot net. But really, what you don't want right

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<v Speaker 5>now that go to that auction rollerauction dot Com, Rollerauction

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<v Speaker 5>dot Troubleshooter three zero three seven to one three talk

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<v Speaker 5>seven one three eight two five five. I see that

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy Dollars in the studio with us along with Major

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Major, and we're taking your calls on any and

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<v Speaker 5>all things, but that that auction is pretty darn cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Larry called in and was working with Suzanne, I believe in.

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<v Speaker 5>Larry called in yesterday and he has a Comcast issue,

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<v Speaker 5>and really it seems to be a simple one.

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<v Speaker 6>He just and I signed it to Deputy dot too.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's a Comcast customer who travels seasonally. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they ought to make things easier for people nowadays, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people do seasonal travel and it really is

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<v Speaker 5>a pain in the butt to get things turned on

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<v Speaker 5>and off. I think it ought to be as easy

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<v Speaker 5>as a credit freeze. You go online and you suspend

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<v Speaker 5>your account for a certain amount of time and that

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<v Speaker 5>be it done, and then you come back you turn

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<v Speaker 5>it back on. But he was having trouble and he

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<v Speaker 5>got a final bill when he was, you know, turning

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<v Speaker 5>it off this time at this time, and the notice

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<v Speaker 5>said he didn't pay it, and he says he has

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<v Speaker 5>all the proof to prove he did pay it. Now, Larry,

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<v Speaker 5>did you pay it on their website or did you

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<v Speaker 5>push it out from your bank or how was the

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<v Speaker 5>payment actually made?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, the payment was made through US Bank bill pay

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<v Speaker 9>o case through US Bank as a way or transfer

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<v Speaker 9>into Comcast.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was being pushed out. That's what you did.

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<v Speaker 6>You pushed it out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called as opposed to going to their account and

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<v Speaker 5>having it drawn You pushed it out and they claimed

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<v Speaker 5>they did not get it. Now, did you check with

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<v Speaker 5>your bank to see what kind of proof you said

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<v Speaker 5>you had proof?

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<v Speaker 6>What kind of proof do you have?

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<v Speaker 9>Well they have they had the transaction thing the day

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<v Speaker 9>it cleared, the transaction number of you.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, want to come.

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<v Speaker 5>Back all right, now, what is there anything new? Did

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy Dollar or deputy excuse me, deputy doc or did

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<v Speaker 5>Sue get in touch with you after the show?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, after the show? By late afternoon, Comcast representative called

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<v Speaker 9>me and says, yes, I did pay the bill, they agreed.

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<v Speaker 10>Whoa okay, So.

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<v Speaker 6>What are they going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 9>And they says, well, but because the bill transaction was

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<v Speaker 9>paid in late October, they says, but in November they

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<v Speaker 9>issued me a refund. Really what shocked me. So I

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<v Speaker 9>looked at my you know, this is afters I looked

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<v Speaker 9>at my statements and I can find no evidence of

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<v Speaker 9>aout refunds for that amount.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's the reason they said the refund?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 11>What?

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<v Speaker 6>What reason did they give you for the refund?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, for the mount because the count the dollar amount

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<v Speaker 9>went into an old account of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>That was.

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<v Speaker 9>Bill tay, you know. And then they said that they

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<v Speaker 9>refunded me, but I find no trace. But they said

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<v Speaker 9>as a courtesy, you know, for the Troubleshooter show and

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<v Speaker 9>everything like that, they would zero my account.

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<v Speaker 10>I actually owe nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, that dinger goes to Sus.

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<v Speaker 5>That dinger goes to Deputy Dock or whoever helped you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was mainly Sus who got the angel

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<v Speaker 5>from Comcast.

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<v Speaker 6>So Hey, problem solved.

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<v Speaker 7>Larry exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>And I went around round and around with them for

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<v Speaker 9>months on my own until I called your show by evening.

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<v Speaker 9>By late afternoon, it was resolved.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really happy about that.

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<v Speaker 5>All kidding aside, that's what the show is about, big

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<v Speaker 5>small in between.

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<v Speaker 6>We help all kinds of problems.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for letting us know, Larry, that means a

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<v Speaker 5>lot to us. Three h three Martino is the number

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<v Speaker 5>to call. If you have little, little nitpicking, pain in

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<v Speaker 5>the butt problems, you may get my dinger. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 5>talk to Brenda. It's about a shuttle service, Brenda.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, what is going on with you? Brenda? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 12>The company is called Eighth Black EI g HT the

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<v Speaker 12>color Black.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, from Ronmont to the airport.

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<v Speaker 10>They were fabulous.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, prepay some passes that were on sale. They have

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<v Speaker 12>closed their doors, I believe June the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>I've called the number.

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<v Speaker 12>They no longer exist, and I want my money back?

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<v Speaker 6>And how much did you pay?

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<v Speaker 5>How much are you out right now? How much did

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<v Speaker 5>you pay for stuff you didn't get?

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably thirty two, it's only it's under one hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, But but what I want to know is this,

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<v Speaker 5>how many were no, no, no, you deserved that money back?

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<v Speaker 6>How did you make the payment? In what form?

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<v Speaker 9>Credit card?

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<v Speaker 12>Over their website you would prepay thirty two dollars normally

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<v Speaker 12>would be a sixty four dollars charge and.

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<v Speaker 7>You could get both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>For thirty two.

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<v Speaker 10>And I okay, having trouble for.

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<v Speaker 12>My email, so I will get more information. But I

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<v Speaker 12>was just shocked that they just closed their doors.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I want to ask the obvious simple question.

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<v Speaker 5>May maybe you did it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to insult you or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you simply call your credit card company and just

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<v Speaker 5>contest the charge?

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<v Speaker 12>Well I got it in January.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's not that far back.

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<v Speaker 14>allows up to a year to dispute charges. It really

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<v Speaker 14>depends on the issue of the car.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, I don't think there is technically a deadline or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think like it's written anywhere in law. I

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<v Speaker 5>just think they give the credit card issuers have their policies,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and some of them say sixty days. That's

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty common one. So, Brenda, so what was the

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<v Speaker 5>answer to that? Did you bother calling them and say

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<v Speaker 5>this is this was charged and I never got any service?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you do that? And I did?

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<v Speaker 12>That's nut and I will it's Capital one and I

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<v Speaker 12>will call them.

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<v Speaker 5>Now now I have Capital one. They are wonderful with

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like this. Is that who you were talking about? D?

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy D said he has capital one and you know

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<v Speaker 5>what you just disputed.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, you don't even have to talk to anybody.

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<v Speaker 6>You can go online.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the problems with Capital one that bothers me

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<v Speaker 5>a little is if you know there's someone who made

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<v Speaker 5>a charge and they shouldn't have been on there. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>the only probably you might run into, Brenda is that

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<v Speaker 5>they'll take it off in a heartbeat. But sometimes what

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<v Speaker 5>they say is well not sometimes every time. This is

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<v Speaker 5>what they've done to me. If I have one charge

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<v Speaker 5>that I dispute. Now, I'm not saying I lost my

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<v Speaker 5>card or it was misplaced. All I meant was this

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<v Speaker 5>company charged me and they should not have charged me.

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<v Speaker 5>Or they charged me and I got nothing in return.

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<v Speaker 5>They sometimes issue a new card, which is a pain

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<v Speaker 5>in the butt, you know, to change because if you

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot of prepaid sometimes you have to go

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<v Speaker 5>in and redo them. But I would do that. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>telling you, I know for sure. I'm marking this as

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<v Speaker 5>pending because if you call us back, we'll take it

436
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<v Speaker 5>to the next level. But are they totally out of

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<v Speaker 5>business right now? The eight Black? They're totally what did

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<v Speaker 5>you read their data?

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<v Speaker 14>I just read their their notice on their website. It

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<v Speaker 14>says that this was posted on Friday, and it says, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>effective today, we're shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>You interested in supporting us?

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<v Speaker 6>They had good reviews, didn't they?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look at their reviews often. Our caller says

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<v Speaker 2>that she was very satisfied with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, airport shuttles are really important. Hey, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 5>Just on a side note, where you shuttle? Where do

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<v Speaker 5>you shuttle from a long month?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd go long month?

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<v Speaker 12>And my god, they picked up my beds, they had water,

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<v Speaker 12>they were gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 7>The people on the bus were fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's too bad.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really too bad that that that they're out of

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<v Speaker 5>business because a lot of people liked them.

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<v Speaker 6>They had some good ratings. Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 5>Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 5>A two five five. Waterpros dot net the absolute best.

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<v Speaker 6>Water systems at the lowest prices.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm telling you tap water is not safe to drink.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can for twelve hundred bucks get reverse osmosis

462
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<v Speaker 5>that you're syk. Or you can do one further and

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<v Speaker 5>get a whole house system for forever chemicals, plastics and

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<v Speaker 5>all that crap and get your house water softened and

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<v Speaker 5>purified for thirty nine to ninety five. You never find

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<v Speaker 5>systems better for lower prices ever. Waterpros dot net three

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<v Speaker 5>three eight six two five five.

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<v Speaker 6>Five four.

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<v Speaker 5>And don't forget that fix it twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I say new customers, but it's not. It's for

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<v Speaker 5>people who haven't had it done yet. They want to

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<v Speaker 5>show you what they do. So if you've had fix

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<v Speaker 5>it out, that's fine, you can still do it fixmihome

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<v Speaker 5>dot com book Now all right, back to the phones,

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<v Speaker 5>and we have a comment on this eight Black shuttle

476
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<v Speaker 5>service from Susan. Basically, from what I can see on

477
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<v Speaker 5>the net, they were a pretty good shuttle service to

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<v Speaker 5>and from the airport and they shut down.

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<v Speaker 6>What is your comment, Susan?

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<v Speaker 13>Hi, Tom, I just I got the email on Friday,

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<v Speaker 13>immediately went to their offices over on Main Street. I've

482
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<v Speaker 13>been using them for over five years. I mean they

483
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<v Speaker 13>used to be Green Ride and then eight Black bottom out.

484
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<v Speaker 13>When I went to their offices, luckily there was an

485
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<v Speaker 13>employee there and there was another consumer there also. The

486
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<v Speaker 13>employee said they just got an email noon that day

487
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<v Speaker 13>that they don't have a job, and she said they

488
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<v Speaker 13>haven't been paid for over three weeks. Oh well, And

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<v Speaker 13>I do research all the time. And the owner's name

490
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<v Speaker 13>is Simon Kin, and he has a LinkedIn page is

491
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<v Speaker 13>bragging about eight Black being a global shuttle service and

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<v Speaker 13>all these things.

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<v Speaker 6>And what do you think happened?

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<v Speaker 13>I I think he just mismanaged. I don't know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know. Brenda said about them having a big

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<v Speaker 13>sale over Memorial Day weekend and it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 13>end the night of May thirty. Yes, they extended it

498
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<v Speaker 13>another day, and I know people that went on and

499
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<v Speaker 13>bought more vouchers and then he shuts down. Less than

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<v Speaker 13>two weeks later. I have been able to access his

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<v Speaker 13>home address and his personal phone number, and of course

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<v Speaker 13>you know he doesn't answer as fine by the way,

503
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<v Speaker 13>out of curiosity.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of curiosity, you say, you research a lot and

505
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<v Speaker 5>you came up with this guy's home information.

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<v Speaker 6>So what's your background.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm an accountant. Uh huh, okay, I've done. You know,

508
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<v Speaker 13>when my kids were in school, I used to when

509
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<v Speaker 13>they did things in school that I thought, no, what

510
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<v Speaker 13>are they doing? I would research the pros and cons

511
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<v Speaker 13>of everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you retired now? And listen, warning, I have a

513
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<v Speaker 5>goal in mind. Warning, warning, this could end up costing you,

514
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<v Speaker 5>not costing you anything but a little time.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you work now? Are you retired?

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<v Speaker 13>We retired?

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<v Speaker 7>Semi retired?

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<v Speaker 13>I used to I had one huge client and I

519
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<v Speaker 13>have about four small ones now.

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<v Speaker 7>It just sort of keeps me busy.

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<v Speaker 13>Plus I have five grandkids.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, so listen, if you ever want to come out

523
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<v Speaker 5>of retirement and be a deputy, we so we we

524
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<v Speaker 5>love smart people that do stuff like this. There are

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<v Speaker 5>certain people we pluck out of the great unwashed, and

526
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<v Speaker 5>we make them part of our elite. We make them

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<v Speaker 5>part of our elite team of troubleshooters. And you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to say anything now, but if you ever want

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<v Speaker 5>to consider let me explain how it would work every

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<v Speaker 5>now and then. You know, if you want to take

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<v Speaker 5>a case, you can take it. If not, you're not

532
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<v Speaker 5>and we would love for you to consider it, because

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<v Speaker 5>you sound like you're pretty damn sharp. What uh what what.

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<v Speaker 6>Led you to do this?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is it just in your DNA that you want that?

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<v Speaker 5>You're just a nosy, busybody.

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<v Speaker 13>I know, it's just I think so many times people

538
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<v Speaker 13>present one side of a picture and want you to

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<v Speaker 13>believe that what they're saying is truth, and so I

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<v Speaker 13>look at it and go, okay, let's look at the

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<v Speaker 13>whole picture. Let's see what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's exactly what we hans.

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<v Speaker 13>There's pros and cons to everything, and you have to

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<v Speaker 13>look at it all. I mean, you can't just someone

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<v Speaker 13>come to you and say this is the way it

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<v Speaker 13>is now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 13>People that go, yes, I believe you, well, don't sell

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<v Speaker 13>yourself short.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at it all, you know, Susan Man, I mean

551
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<v Speaker 5>it sounds like this sounds like she dropped out of heaven,

552
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<v Speaker 5>didn't it for us? On a okay, hey Katschina, get

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<v Speaker 5>her name a number.

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<v Speaker 13>I want to tell you. I just want to tell

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<v Speaker 13>you with eight black. I followed the complaint with the

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<v Speaker 13>Attorney General. I don't think it's going to go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 13>I think everybody should. I copied and saved a PDFOLS

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<v Speaker 13>every email of it had from him. I had thirteen

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<v Speaker 13>prepaid vouchers.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 13>I did call American Express and they took off the

562
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<v Speaker 13>last four, which was one hundred and twenty eight dollars.

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<v Speaker 13>But it was done in April. They said they couldn't

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<v Speaker 13>go back, so other than a year.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh really, I got that back?

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<v Speaker 6>Huh.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah. And what's interesting is I heard a comment that

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<v Speaker 13>the guy skip Town and he's in Australia now and

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<v Speaker 13>if you look at his LinkedIn page, he does have

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<v Speaker 13>an Australian A.

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<v Speaker 5>No, but it what's really funny, Susan, he was going,

572
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<v Speaker 5>he was going really well. It seems weird that all

573
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<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, yeah, you know, boom, he gets weird.

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<v Speaker 6>It seems weird.

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<v Speaker 13>Song Hey drivers, Yeah, it's drivers always talked about the

576
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<v Speaker 13>fact that he was a world traveler.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, he could be, Susan.

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<v Speaker 14>How far back did how far back did American Express

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<v Speaker 14>say you could challenge those fees?

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<v Speaker 13>They said a year?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, well that's that's pretty generous. Okay, Susan.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, Hey, could sheena get her name in number

583
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<v Speaker 5>for and let's let's bug her later about being a deputy.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 5>She sounds like part of the team already, the way

586
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<v Speaker 5>she talks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's invited over for pizza day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Chris, Chris, I got to take this break, but

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk to you about this contractor. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>if you will, please hold I'll take you next. And

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<v Speaker 5>then Mary has a long wait. No, no, no, she's off.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, So Chris, hang on, I'll come right back

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<v Speaker 5>to you. Martine here at three O three seven one

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<v Speaker 5>three TELK. Chris has an issue with a contractor, possibly

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<v Speaker 5>a legal issue, we don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Chris, what's going on? Chris?

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning? Tom?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, sir, long story short. I hired the contractor.

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<v Speaker 7>To renovate or renovate my basement basically finish, and he has.

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<v Speaker 10>Had some health problems and the job has.

601
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<v Speaker 7>Gone way longer than it should have, and now he's

602
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<v Speaker 7>having some money problems and I need, I believe I

603
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<v Speaker 7>need to just get in touch with the lawyer to

604
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<v Speaker 7>get this contract like voided, get the money back that

605
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<v Speaker 7>he used to doing. Okay, do you only has a

606
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<v Speaker 7>little bit of my money?

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<v Speaker 10>Not a lot?

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<v Speaker 7>And all the whole thing in advance?

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<v Speaker 6>Now how much?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about this, and I just want some background.

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<v Speaker 5>What was the total job going to be? The total

612
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<v Speaker 5>job that he was going to do for you? Dollars

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<v Speaker 5>fifty seven five seven.

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<v Speaker 7>Five seven, six hundred, okay?

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<v Speaker 6>And how much did you pay?

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<v Speaker 7>Right now? We are up to.

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<v Speaker 10>Five three six hundred okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty three six Now that's a lot of money. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you think for the money that's left, you can finish

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<v Speaker 5>it the way it was specified in the contract?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I think I'm probably going to have to outlay

622
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<v Speaker 7>because I used to throw them four. I think I'll

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<v Speaker 7>probably have to lay out another five to ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Now is that because?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that because of stuff he flat out didn't do

626
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<v Speaker 5>or stuff that has to be redone?

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<v Speaker 6>What's the story there?

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<v Speaker 7>Stuff that haven't been finished yet, Like the rough electrical

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<v Speaker 7>is done, but the final electrical is not. So I'm

630
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<v Speaker 7>gonna need the outfits installed and some light fixtures. The

631
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<v Speaker 7>bathroom is not completely done, so I'm just gonna need

632
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<v Speaker 7>someone coming in do the final plumbing.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now, what does he say about this stuff? What

634
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<v Speaker 5>does he say about all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 7>He said, basically, he can pay me back the money.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just going to take time, so he can do

637
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<v Speaker 7>a payment plan with me, which I don't trust, or

638
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<v Speaker 7>he can get the job done, but it's just gonna

639
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<v Speaker 7>be really long because he's been basically doing like four

640
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<v Speaker 7>hours worth of work per week.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think this guy is telling the truth basically

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<v Speaker 5>and wants to do a good job, or do you

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<v Speaker 5>think that he's basically, let's just say, a cheater.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you think about it? Really? What's your gut

645
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<v Speaker 6>telling you both?

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<v Speaker 7>He wants to do the job, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 7>just been having some problems lately, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 7>been borrowing from one job to pay for the next

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<v Speaker 7>job or the last job and stuff like that. That's

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<v Speaker 7>what I assume is happening, and I'm just part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>We were hoping to have this done by February. Yes, Now,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean like we've done all the inspections except for

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<v Speaker 7>the final inspection, and like I said, we just have

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit of path of work.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's okay, some paint.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I'm not sure. Here's what I'm trying to get at.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure you need an attorney. Maybe you do,

658
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<v Speaker 5>but the bottom line is this. You want to somehow

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<v Speaker 5>document what has happened and get a commitment to pay

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<v Speaker 5>you back.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that what you want?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I don't trust him to actually pay me back?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? But what here, here's what I'm telling you, Having

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<v Speaker 5>an attorney do it or whatever if you get this

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<v Speaker 5>down on paper that he acknowledges this or that. If

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<v Speaker 5>the guy's a dead beat, it's not gonna it's I

667
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<v Speaker 5>hate to tell you this, Chris, but it's virtually impossible

668
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<v Speaker 5>to collect from a dead beat unless you have some

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<v Speaker 5>kind of judgment and you come into money. Are they

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<v Speaker 5>come into money? So how much are you figuring he

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<v Speaker 5>owes you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm hearing heals me about ten?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So if you ten grand plus what's due, you

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<v Speaker 5>feel you could finish the job. You're going, Okay, hold on,

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<v Speaker 5>I have some ideas on how we approach this and

676
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<v Speaker 5>maybe have someone help you through the steps, and just

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<v Speaker 5>hang on and we'll take you right after the news.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, I understand some places had like baseball size hail

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<v Speaker 5>last night, or they some of them said three in

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<v Speaker 5>highly unusual to have hail in the early morning, will

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<v Speaker 5>before the sun is shining.

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<v Speaker 6>That is weird. But it must have been building up

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<v Speaker 6>all day and then just spit out. Giant.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my uh, one of my listeners, one of

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<v Speaker 5>my morons from YouTube, JR sent me a picture holding

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<v Speaker 5>do some serious harm, that could kill you coming out

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<v Speaker 5>You found them and God, the damage it must have done.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two frankaranderealestate Man dot com. So Chris has a contractor

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<v Speaker 5>issue and really these things are God, they're so disheartening.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the problems, Chris, with having a bad contractor

728
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<v Speaker 5>is once they get your money and it's spent, you'll

729
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<v Speaker 5>you can kiss a goodbye. They don't have the ability

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<v Speaker 5>to repay, even if you get a judgment.

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<v Speaker 6>Not being able to collect as terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>And then if you've totally lost trust with the guy,

733
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<v Speaker 5>you can't have him continue working. So you're really between

734
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<v Speaker 5>a rock and a hard place. Now, you hired this

735
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<v Speaker 5>contractor for fifty seven six hundred bucks for a basement renovation.

736
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<v Speaker 5>So far you've paid fifty three to six and this

737
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<v Speaker 5>guy supposedly had health problems.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I want to ask some just basic questions.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think this guy really had health and other

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<v Speaker 5>problems or do you think he's just looking for excuses?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I think I think he did. He even like

742
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<v Speaker 7>tried sending his son over to help and do some

743
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<v Speaker 7>stuff at times because he he was well. He claimed

744
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<v Speaker 7>he was in a hospital, and I don't I believe

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<v Speaker 7>that true. That to be true, because like I said,

746
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<v Speaker 7>his son was still here, some of the work firm

747
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<v Speaker 7>was still here.

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<v Speaker 5>Did he actually walk off the job yet, Chris, did

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<v Speaker 5>this contractor basically walk off the job.

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<v Speaker 6>Did he say I can't do it?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 7>He is. He telling me I can probably have someone

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<v Speaker 7>there this weekend, or I'm gonna call his brothers a carpenter.

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<v Speaker 7>He's like, I'm gonna call my brother and see if

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<v Speaker 7>he can do this. But every morning I have to

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<v Speaker 7>basically text him and ask is someone coming over today? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>And it's just I. I believe he will get the

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<v Speaker 7>job done if I give him enough time. But the

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<v Speaker 7>problem is we're already four months behind schedule, and this

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<v Speaker 7>is seriously eating into our plans. So I want to

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<v Speaker 7>get this job done and I actually want to lift

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<v Speaker 7>his house and be done with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, so the guy okay, So so really, when you

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<v Speaker 5>have someone like this, wouldn't he just without hiring attorney

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<v Speaker 5>in every thing? Would he just sign a promisory note

767
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<v Speaker 5>for you and say be on your way, tell him

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<v Speaker 5>to be what's the name of the contractor, Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>It's design Plus And he also they have a dB

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<v Speaker 7>A and I believe the DBA is Design Plus but

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<v Speaker 7>it's uh, yeah, that's that's the name that it was

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<v Speaker 7>listed under.

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<v Speaker 6>And what is his what is his name?

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Melina?

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<v Speaker 6>Melina? Okay? Now, and would he sign a promisory note.

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<v Speaker 7>Mits he's got insurance and all of those things, so

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<v Speaker 7>it's not like he's just a guy knocking on my door.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, and okay, So where how did you

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<v Speaker 6>find him?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 7>He was on home Advisor. I believe home Advisor, Angie,

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<v Speaker 7>it's been We hired him in November. I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>where I found him. I tried contacting Triple A and

784
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<v Speaker 7>they could not get it done.

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<v Speaker 6>In the time we should have gone. You should have

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<v Speaker 6>gone to referral this dot com for this.

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<v Speaker 7>I tried contacting Triple A and Morrison. He's there on

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<v Speaker 7>your referral list, but he's been done in the timeframe

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<v Speaker 7>we want. Those are the holidays and other work he has.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's Toby. I believe.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, here's the thing right now, will he sign an agreement,

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<v Speaker 5>a mutual like a settlement agreement.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the best that will be.

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<v Speaker 5>Really hiring an attorney is just throwing money away with

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<v Speaker 5>this guy, because most likely he's not going to come

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<v Speaker 5>through anyway, and if he goes bankrupt, you're out of luck.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you did this in a friendly way and say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>let's do a settlement agreement, I'm willing to walk away

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<v Speaker 5>for ten grand.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll feel that that's a justice settlement.

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<v Speaker 5>Would he just basically do that that?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know with one certainty. I mean, he might say, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'll pay you one hundred dollars for the next

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred and twenty months.

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<v Speaker 5>Well no, no, no, I'm not talking about even outlining a

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<v Speaker 5>payment plan, but just a statement of settlement, In other words,

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<v Speaker 5>that I, Joe Molina, acknowledge that I've had problems and

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<v Speaker 5>delayed this project, and I agree to pay Chris ten

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars as full and final settlement. You don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to have the payment options spelled out, but just the

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<v Speaker 5>understanding of the main facts.

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<v Speaker 6>Would he say to.

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<v Speaker 5>You, there's no way I owe you ten grand. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been working my tail off. What would his reaction be

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<v Speaker 5>to you asking him to sign a settlement agreement? What

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<v Speaker 5>do you think his initial action his reaction would be.

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<v Speaker 7>I think his reaction would be, yes, I will sign

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<v Speaker 7>a settlement because I'm never going to pay it. But

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think you would agree to the ten grand.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever discussed how much you think you're owed?

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<v Speaker 7>I did text him this morning and said, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 7>about you just give me this ten thousand dollars back

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<v Speaker 7>and then I go find another contract to finish it.

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<v Speaker 7>And he basically said he could do a payment plan.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't acknowledge the number. He just said, I can

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<v Speaker 7>do a payment plan or I can slowly get the

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<v Speaker 7>job done.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you got to do that. You're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to sign a settlement agreement with him, and you're not

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<v Speaker 5>willing to let him continue. And I don't blame you.

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<v Speaker 5>You're already four months behind schedule. But get something on,

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<v Speaker 5>get something down that acknowledges he owes you something. We'll

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<v Speaker 5>worry about the collection afterwards. Frankly, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to get it. What kind of health problems does

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<v Speaker 5>this guy have?

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<v Speaker 7>He had COVID related breathing and lung issues, okay?

838
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<v Speaker 6>And how old is this gentleman?

839
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<v Speaker 7>Mid fifties, late fifties.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I would this is what I would do, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get involved later on. But I'm telling you, hiring

842
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<v Speaker 5>attorney now is way premature because that's all the attorney's

843
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<v Speaker 5>going to do, is the attorney. All the tools the

844
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<v Speaker 5>attorney has is negotiating a settlement or taking him to

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<v Speaker 5>court and getting a judgment. But okay, so you could

846
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<v Speaker 5>do that, you can get a judgment. You can't go

847
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<v Speaker 5>for ten grand. That's county court. You'd have to go

848
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<v Speaker 5>to small seventy five hundred limit for small claims court.

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<v Speaker 5>If you are willing to do that and get a

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<v Speaker 5>judgment for seventy five hundred, then you have a judgment.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you have a judgment, it sits there until you

852
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<v Speaker 5>do something with it. But at least it's a transcript

853
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<v Speaker 5>and it's a legal document what they call memorializing the event,

854
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<v Speaker 5>putting it in writing, and having a real.

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<v Speaker 6>Figure to work with.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, you can't do ten grand in small claims, so

857
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<v Speaker 5>you would have to go to county court. That's not impossible,

858
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<v Speaker 5>by the way, to do on your own, that's pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think this guy would lawyer up if you

860
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 5>did that, or do you think he's down and out

861
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 5>and can't afford it.

862
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't know whether he's down and out and can't

863
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 7>afford it, because I don't know if he's just done

864
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 7>yeah my job, because he's not going to get more

865
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 7>money from it, and he's still doing this other people.

866
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't know anything. Yeah, well, okay, publicity towards this,

867
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 7>and like, if I can, can you talk about contact

868
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.000
<v Speaker 7>and trust back all the time on your show? Yeah? Yeah,

869
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 7>And if he has committed theft and stuff like that,

870
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 7>I want him no longer doing business.

871
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I want and you know what, I agree with you

872
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent. In addition to helping yourself, you fear

873
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 5>right now, he might be out there doing it every day.

874
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 6>He as soon as he takes a down payment.

875
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 5>He's trying to catch up with people who are nipping

876
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 5>at his heels. I get you, and I applaud you

877
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 5>for that, but there's only so much this guy can do.

878
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 6>And then here's the problem.

879
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 5>Now, if he's doing it intentionally, bankruptcy won't help him.

880
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 5>But no one goes after somebody for fraud on bankruptcy.

881
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 5>This guy will just file bankruptcy and everybody will go away.

882
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 5>Very seldom to people try to pierce the bankruptcy and

883
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 5>go after them personally and claim that it was manipulated

884
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 5>and all of that. I'm not saying it's impossible, but

885
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 5>very seldom to people do that, Chris. The very first

886
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 5>thing I would do, and I'm marking this here so

887
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 5>we can bring it back up for you The very

888
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 5>first thing I would do is say, Joe, listen, we

889
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 5>need to get something in writing so we can come

890
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 5>to an agreement as to what is owed and how

891
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 5>much would be an equitable settlement. If you can't get

892
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 5>that done, Chris, then we go to the next here,

893
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 5>which is us contacting him and explaining to him about

894
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 5>the Contractor's Trust Act. But get something in writing. I

895
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 5>would suggest something very simple that the two that he

896
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 5>could not complete the job due to various health problems

897
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 5>and other issues, and he agrees to a full and

898
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.599
<v Speaker 5>final settlement, or you both agree to a full final

899
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 5>settlement of ten thousand dollars to be paid let's put

900
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 5>it this way, to be paid in the future in

901
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 5>a mutually acceptable way, or something.

902
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 6>Again, I'm just telling you what I would do.

903
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 5>I can't give you legal advice, but do something to

904
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 5>get it in writing.

905
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 6>That's your first step.

906
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 5>You do not need an attorney at this point unless

907
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 5>you want to go to court and all that money

908
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 5>and get a useless judgment. Really, I mean you're going

909
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 5>to get a judgment. You have proof he took the money.

910
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 5>The job's not done. If an expert, if a contractor

911
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 5>looked at the job. Would a contractor say, looked at

912
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 5>the contract and looked at the job, would a contractor

913
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 5>come to the conclusion that it is not complete?

914
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, and ill a couple other people on the

915
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 7>referral list today to have okay scheduling quotes here.

916
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 5>What you ought to do is get the But this

917
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 5>is what's really important, Chris. When when the wheels come off,

918
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 5>you can't go and say to a contractor. Let's say

919
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 5>you had Genesis come out, which is a wonderful contractor

920
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 5>Genesis Total Exteriors. So let's say they come out and

921
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 5>they say to you, it's going to cost twenty grand

922
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 5>to finish because Genesis is looking at it as the

923
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 5>way they would do it.

924
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 6>So that's not fair.

925
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 5>What you need to do is have a contractor come

926
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 5>out and look at the contract you have and say,

927
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 5>what would it take to finish the job according to

928
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 5>the terms of this contract. And do you do have

929
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 5>a contract with them?

930
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 7>Right?

931
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 8>I do?

932
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 6>Okay, So the.

933
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 5>Extent that that work is being done to that contract,

934
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 5>find out what it would cost to complete it according

935
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 5>to that contract, not according to what a good contractor

936
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 5>would do, but whatever you contracted to do for fifty

937
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 5>seven thousand, six hundred dollars. You ask the people you

938
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 5>hire to look at it, or the inspector, how much

939
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 5>will it cost.

940
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 6>So let's say they tell you, you.

941
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 5>Know what it's going to cost you fifty to finish

942
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 5>this according to the contract right now, you would owe

943
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 5>him technically four grand.

944
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 6>So you would take four four eleven.

945
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, whatever, you would take whatever is owed, whatever is old.

946
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 5>You minus that from what it would take, and you

947
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 5>sue him for the difference. So if it's if it

948
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.320
<v Speaker 5>would take ten grand to finish according to that contract,

949
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 5>you would take the four off of that because you're

950
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 5>not going to pay him that, and then you would

951
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 5>sue him for the additional six.

952
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

953
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 5>And you need to do that quickly. So once you

954
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 5>do that, call us back. I have all of our

955
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 5>notes here, and we'll help you with the next step.

956
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 5>But man, there is nothing worse than being in a

957
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 5>situation like this and people, it happens all the time.

958
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 5>You get behind the eight ball with a contractor, and

959
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 5>it just sucks. Three ozho three seven to one three

960
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 5>talks seven one three, eight two five five. I'm going

961
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 5>to come back to Brenda after the break. She says

962
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 5>she has a follow up on the eight black issue,

963
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 5>which is a airport shuttle, So stick around to hear

964
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:10.960
<v Speaker 5>that and more on.

965
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 6>The Troubleshooter Show.

966
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 5>Brenda called earlier and Brenda said, Hey, you know I

967
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 5>have an.

968
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 6>Issue with a shuttle company.

969
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 5>I paid in advance for shuttles to the airport and

970
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 5>now they're out of business. And I said, well, Brenda,

971
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 5>the most logical thing to do is obviously contest it

972
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.559
<v Speaker 5>on your charge card. And she's back with more information. Again,

973
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 5>this has affected a lot of people. They were selling

974
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 5>prepaid passes right up right up until the end. What's

975
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 5>going on, Brenda, What did you find out anything new?

976
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 12>I haven't had a chance to call the credit card,

977
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 12>but I happened to be in lonmut and I went

978
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 12>to their place of business and the gentleman was inside

979
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 12>the office. He will not disparage Simon Chen, who is

980
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 12>the owner, but all of the drivers he claims to

981
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 12>have been paid. And a lady walked up named Anne,

982
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 12>who I will keep in touch with. She is in

983
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 12>for three thousand dollars. Uh oh, these chief passes, and

984
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 12>God forbid, I just port so she and I will

985
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 12>keep in touch and I'll have her credit card company, right,

986
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 12>for sure, concern because I knew one of the drivers

987
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 12>comes to the place that I work. And now I

988
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 12>feel good that at least the drivers got paid.

989
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 15>But that sad.

990
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, Branda, what is your gut feeling? What

991
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 6>is your gut feeling?

992
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 5>You don't think he engineered this thing to try to

993
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 5>get a bunch of money and leave what or do you?

994
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 6>What is your gut feeling?

995
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 16>The driver that I talk.

996
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 12>To, who will remain unnamed, said he was just a

997
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 12>good guy. He had no business se he should have

998
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 12>been okay, pull those thirty two dollars things. And you know,

999
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 12>I don't know drugs, women.

1000
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 7>I don't.

1001
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 12>I'm not going to disparage the guy. I just am

1002
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 12>very sad at somebody's out three thousand.

1003
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 7>I mean right right, I've been digging so much.

1004
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 12>Trust and respect. That's all I asked for, and I

1005
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 12>will tip anybody.

1006
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I just came to get my rings cleaned at

1007
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Classic Goal.

1008
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 12>There's a good business in Long Line, incredible jeweler.

1009
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 10>But I don't know.

1010
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just yeah, you.

1011
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:37.599
<v Speaker 6>Know what, I understand that, I understand that completely.

1012
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 5>But the good news is this, everyone and I mean

1013
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 5>everyone who paid by credit card I think is going

1014
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 5>to be able to get their money back. This is

1015
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 5>a classic credit card case where you can contest the charges.

1016
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 5>Thank you for calling three oh three seven to one

1017
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 5>to three Talk is our number, or you can call

1018
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 5>three oh three Martino, three oh three six two seven

1019
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 5>eight four sixty six. Jim, you may have run into

1020
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 5>a possible scam. You say, spill the beans, Jim, what's

1021
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:06.320
<v Speaker 5>going on with you?

1022
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 17>All Right? I get skilled about once a week or

1023
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 17>that tempted. I don't fall for them. But there's a

1024
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 17>new one going in.

1025
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 10>I got a call.

1026
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 17>I'm the customer of Eccinity and Comcast, and I got

1027
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 17>a call saying that my two year promotional had run

1028
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 17>out and my new rate, instead of being one hundred

1029
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.760
<v Speaker 17>and nineteen, would be one hundred and fifty. Well, and

1030
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 17>I questioned the guy on it. I said, no, I

1031
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.519
<v Speaker 17>just re upped on one hundred and nineteen.

1032
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:35.519
<v Speaker 10>He made me an offer.

1033
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 17>I could get my hoe feet turned down to fifty

1034
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 17>dollars a month for both Comcasts and Exfinity if I

1035
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 17>was willing to pay for twelve months in advance. Too

1036
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 17>good to be true.

1037
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 10>It's always I thought I wasn't interested.

1038
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 17>I checked with a friend at it.

1039
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 6>How do you know, d how do you know it's

1040
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 6>a complice scam?

1041
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 14>So I get this voicemail from them about every other

1042
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 14>week and I have Infinity.

1043
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 6>Oh they know you're a customer. They don't.

1044
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 2>They're just throwing the dice.

1045
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 14>And they got this guy right because he happens to

1046
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 14>be a customer.

1047
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's a If you do a.

1048
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 14>Keyword search for Comcast Infinity scam on the Internet, you

1049
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 14>will see many thousands of people reporting this, and unfortunately,

1050
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 14>some of them do make that payment and then they

1051
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 14>never see that money again.

1052
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 7>So you're you're one right.

1053
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I didn't fall for it, but I just want

1054
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.360
<v Speaker 17>to have people warned out there. It's a shame these

1055
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 17>people just sit in front of the computers.

1056
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 6>How much do they want from you? By the way, Jim,

1057
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 6>how they.

1058
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 10>Wanted six and they said a month?

1059
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 6>Oh, they said, and then you could keep the lower price.

1060
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 17>I can get, I can get. Well, I was one

1061
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 17>hundred and nineteen, but he hit me down to fifty

1062
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 17>dollars a month if I would pay for a year.

1063
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 17>Got you and I have a friend that works Atinity.

1064
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 17>I got hold of him. He says, we have no

1065
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 17>such program.

1066
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 5>You know you were smart enough not to get what

1067
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 5>was your What was your first clue? What kind of

1068
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.320
<v Speaker 5>payment were they going to accept from you?

1069
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

1070
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 17>Wait, I didn't even get to that when he said

1071
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 17>six hundred dollars paid for a year in advance.

1072
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So you didn't bother. You just knew you just

1073
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 5>knew something was up.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah it was. It was one of those too good

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<v Speaker 17>to be true. Instead of one hundred and fifty a

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<v Speaker 17>suddenly one of fifty dollars a month if i'd pay

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<v Speaker 17>for twelve months.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 7>You pay fifty right away.

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<v Speaker 6>And what you said is true. What the hell is

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<v Speaker 6>going on? There are more scams.

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<v Speaker 5>Than ever if in fact, people, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 5>away a prize, I want you to I want you

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<v Speaker 5>to call in with the latest scams, and if it's

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<v Speaker 5>a scam that we haven't heard of, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 5>a prize. I don't know what the prize is. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>a trip to Miami. Now I'm just kidding, but we'll

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<v Speaker 5>give you maybe a little uh, a little troubleshooter swag.

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<v Speaker 5>We got more coming up. Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino here three O three seven on three eight

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<v Speaker 5>They're doing, by the way, that deep clean check. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the extreme clean check and tune of your AC. Do

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<v Speaker 5>it for thirty nine bucks if you've not had it

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<v Speaker 5>done before. Unbelievable deal. Two hours of labor pulling this

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<v Speaker 5>thing out, taking it apart, clean each and every crevice

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<v Speaker 5>and cranny and part and adjusting it all. That's fixed

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<v Speaker 5>myihome dot com book now just thirty nine bucks. Dan

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<v Speaker 5>wants to talk about eight Black Shuttle Service. Basically eight

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<v Speaker 5>Black reduced their price and we're selling a lot of

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00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 5>advanced passes just before they went out of business. But

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people think it's a good guy. He

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00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 5>wasn't doing it to cheat anyone. He was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>make a last ditch effort to stay above water and

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<v Speaker 5>had to close up and I'm advising people who bought

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00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 5>these passes in advance and paid in advance to go

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<v Speaker 5>to their credit card company and get and contest the

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<v Speaker 5>charge because they're getting no service in return. Dan, what

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<v Speaker 5>is your comment? What is going on about eight black

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<v Speaker 5>shuttle service?

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<v Speaker 18>I would just say I think it was either Friday

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<v Speaker 18>after I saw the email or Saturday. I called America

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<v Speaker 18>Express because I'm out six hundred dollars, and America Express said,

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00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.320
<v Speaker 18>because they're a closed company, they have no way to

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<v Speaker 18>claw back the money. I mean what, Yeah, No, they

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<v Speaker 18>said they have no way to clide back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you can still, you can still contest that charge.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of disagree with what they're telling you at

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<v Speaker 5>this point. It Yeah, you can contest this charge.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, Tom, our previous caller is just a few

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<v Speaker 14>minutes ago, said that American Express had refunded her her purchase.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I did you. Why don't you just go online

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<v Speaker 6>and contest it.

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<v Speaker 19>I sure wouldn't offer that kind of information. I'd basically say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 19>in fact, if it was in the last right sixty

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<v Speaker 19>or ninety days, I'll tell you exactly what I'd say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say, I have no idea, what the hell this is.

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<v Speaker 19>Someone must have stolen and using my number, because I

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<v Speaker 19>have absolutely no idea what the hell this is.

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<v Speaker 5>When they said when they said they had no ability

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00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 5>to claw it back, that's the same with fraud. They

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00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 5>very seldom have the ability to claw back money in

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<v Speaker 5>the in cyber space when you deal with ripoffs and

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<v Speaker 5>cheets and all of these.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm shocked that they told.

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<v Speaker 2>You that they actually don't even clawed back.

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<v Speaker 14>There's a thing called a merchant account, and the merchant

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00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 14>doesn't get all the money that gets that they charge

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00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:15.480
<v Speaker 14>people's credit cards.

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<v Speaker 6>For me, wait till the record.

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<v Speaker 14>There is a certain like there's like a twenty percent

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<v Speaker 14>or a ten percent float that remains in this account

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00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.800
<v Speaker 14>that merchants that credit cards can claw their money back

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<v Speaker 14>out of the account.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even get it out of the merchants. That

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<v Speaker 2>actually is correct.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so Dan, you were told I don't know who

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<v Speaker 6>you called. Did you call American Express itself?

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, no, I call I talked to America Express because

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00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 18>I have them going back to twenty twenty four. The charges,

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<v Speaker 18>and what you want to be a little careful on

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00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 18>is that American Express will credit your account of damn

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<v Speaker 18>near immediately with your charges and then they'll go investigate

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<v Speaker 18>it and you may or may not get the actual credit.

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<v Speaker 18>So if people spend the money, they may or may

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<v Speaker 18>not get the actual credit.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a provisional credit.

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<v Speaker 19>And I don't know if you could go back that

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<v Speaker 19>far man, I mean going back six months generally you're

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<v Speaker 19>talking ninety one hundred and twenty days.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we have to get some one marked well

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<v Speaker 5>our processor.

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<v Speaker 19>No, yeah, market, but each bank's different. It depends who

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<v Speaker 19>you're dealing with. Capital One can handle it completely different

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<v Speaker 19>than Amex compared to Wells Fargo.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But what I mean is is there any legal limit,

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<v Speaker 5>like they say, after this much time, you can't do it,

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<v Speaker 5>or you know.

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<v Speaker 19>It's whatever's in the term of your agreement with the

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<v Speaker 19>credit card company.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 19>If you got if you got a black card, you

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<v Speaker 19>could probably get rid of something you bought a year

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<v Speaker 19>and a half ago, as long as it's not a

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<v Speaker 19>jet airline.

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<v Speaker 20>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that basically I have never I don't but

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<v Speaker 5>I've never waited a year or anything. But I did

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<v Speaker 5>on one card come up against some fraudulent charges that

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<v Speaker 5>went back about four or five months, and they asked

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<v Speaker 5>me why I didn't notice it sooner, but they did

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<v Speaker 5>let me contest it, and really, I'm going to research this.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, the biggest.

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<v Speaker 19>Issue, and I always preach this, and I know people

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00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 19>can't stand it when I do it, but if someone

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<v Speaker 19>ripped you off and they used your credit card and

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<v Speaker 19>you did not slide it in something in other words,

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<v Speaker 19>it was given over the phone or over the internet

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<v Speaker 19>or plugged in some way, you basically play stupid and say.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what tell this is?

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<v Speaker 19>Don't open yourself up to some long story how this

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<v Speaker 19>company promised, right, yep, yeah, that's how you think.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that guy maybe told too much. You know, hey,

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00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 5>you know I paid for this and the card company

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<v Speaker 5>and the company went out of business, and maybe who knows,

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01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.079
<v Speaker 5>maybe the clerks are even told, hey, if the consumer's

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<v Speaker 5>in doubt, uh, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't think you even need to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to them though. That's the part that confuses me. Whenever

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<v Speaker 5>I've contested a charge, it's always been online. Thank you, though, Dan,

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01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 5>we're looking into the clawback or the contesting provisions for charges.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, like Mark said, it's a matter of contract

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<v Speaker 5>between you and the issuer. But but I there's got

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<v Speaker 5>to be something maybe under the UCC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there is, I just looked it up. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 2>So by law you have.

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<v Speaker 14>To notify them within sixty days, it says, by law okay,

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<v Speaker 14>sixte you know section six?

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<v Speaker 2>What what law? That is? Under the TILA under Truth

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<v Speaker 2>and Lending Act. Okay.

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<v Speaker 14>And then there are actually and it's either TILA or

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<v Speaker 14>Fair Credit Doing Act.

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<v Speaker 8>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just verify that.

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<v Speaker 5>Fair Credit Billing Act says you have sixty days from

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<v Speaker 5>the statement date showing the error, not from the transaction date.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is this is by law, so you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well wait wait, wait, wait guys.

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<v Speaker 19>When you say by law they have to do at

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<v Speaker 19>least sixty I get that. But if AMEX decides they

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<v Speaker 19>will go back ninety there's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 6>Or a year, You're absolutely right.

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01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Nor a year. So yeah, that's even more important than

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<v Speaker 2>what the law says.

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<v Speaker 6>It just depends the issuer. It says.

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<v Speaker 21>Here.

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01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 5>It goes on to say the issuer must acknowledge your

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01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.960
<v Speaker 5>dispute within thirty days, and.

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01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>They must complete their investigation within.

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<v Speaker 6>Two billiing within two billing cycles.

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<v Speaker 5>Right within it says typically sixty days, but never more

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<v Speaker 5>than ninety. So you're right, ninety is the limit. So

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<v Speaker 5>this is good to know. Additional time limits have to

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<v Speaker 5>do with other things, like you have one hundred and

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01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 5>twenty days to file a charge back for issues like

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01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.400
<v Speaker 5>product service and quality. This is not fraud now, this

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01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 5>is one hundred and twenty days for quality.

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<v Speaker 17>Okay.

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<v Speaker 19>I I think we've all been screwed at some point

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<v Speaker 19>where we have some kind of continuous billing going on

1249
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<v Speaker 19>and say, we canceled the service, but we didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 19>it because it's only you know, twelve bucks a month,

1251
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 19>or for whatever reason, you didn't recognize it.

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01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:29.920
<v Speaker 2>So you've been paying it a year and a half.

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01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 19>It finally dawns on you and you call up your

1254
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 19>credit card company and go, what the hell I canceled

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01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.159
<v Speaker 19>with this company, and they can only go back, you know,

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01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 19>or they will only go back three months or whatever

1257
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 19>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>So in any case, it's amazing though, how many, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>how many people. It's amazing how many people bought these

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01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 5>passes from this place for a small company and for

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<v Speaker 5>if you do the sampling of my audience and how

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01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 5>the number of calls compared to the population. It tells

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<v Speaker 5>you that these guys made a whole crapload of states.

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<v Speaker 19>Did they? Did they BK? I was I was bouncing

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01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:08.800
<v Speaker 19>around doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, they just closed right now. There's no I couldn't

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01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:12.760
<v Speaker 5>find no bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 19>So the problem is each person got ripped off by

1269
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 19>so little, no one's going to force him into a BK.

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<v Speaker 5>That's probably the truth, unless they owe a landlord, or

1271
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 5>unless they owe some money somewhere. Yeah, Okay, Tom Martino

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<v Speaker 5>here more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. Tom Martino

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01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.519
<v Speaker 5>here at three oh three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 5>one three eight two five five, Tim, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Tim. What's going on with your plumber?

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<v Speaker 8>That's what happened was that I hired a plumber of

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01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 8>January ninth to do a roughing and spectacle, to do

1278
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.639
<v Speaker 8>a rough and plumbing job in my basement to a friend.

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01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 8>And I was dumb when I paid up front, and

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01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 8>he never he failed the inspection. Two times. He had

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<v Speaker 8>a drain from the sink vandy going upwards and he

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<v Speaker 8>he and he had another issue where he didn't put

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01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.639
<v Speaker 8>the right plans in the toilet daker. But two times

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<v Speaker 8>and now he says that he can't come up. He

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<v Speaker 8>told me three weeks, but three that week. So he

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<v Speaker 8>can't come up for three weeks to fix what he

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<v Speaker 8>messed up. So I'm going to have to do it myself,

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<v Speaker 8>like the past, the regional buildings, fuming in specially Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you hired him, you hired him only for a.

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<v Speaker 8>Rough in, right, a roughing and he didn't complete it right?

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<v Speaker 6>And how much did you pay him up front?

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty four hundred dollars?

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<v Speaker 6>And why can may I ask why you did that?

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<v Speaker 8>Why? I did that? Because the lady I loved it,

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<v Speaker 8>she knew him, and I knew he was kind of

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<v Speaker 8>hurting for money and stuff like that. So that's why

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<v Speaker 8>I did that. But you know, and she feels carrible

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<v Speaker 8>about this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So what's the last thing you said to this guy?

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<v Speaker 6>Tim? What's the last thing you said to be plumber?

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<v Speaker 8>I shot around and I texted him on the phone.

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<v Speaker 8>I said I failed the second time, and you know

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, and I told him the reasons why, and

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<v Speaker 8>like that, he says, why could maybe come up a

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<v Speaker 8>few weeks, But I don't know what I'll be at.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the what's does he have a company? Did you

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<v Speaker 5>hire his company.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I did. He owns the company.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the what's the what's the name of the Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead, spell it.

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<v Speaker 6>R E M L E Plumbing, Remley Plumbing.

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<v Speaker 8>R E M L E.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh you said he said he may get to it,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's going to be a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, And he hasn't gotten to it. And you know

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<v Speaker 8>he's think I feel he's incompetent because he did it

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<v Speaker 8>wrong two times.

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<v Speaker 6>How much would it cost?

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<v Speaker 5>How much would it cost to just fix just what

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<v Speaker 5>needs to be done for the inspection?

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<v Speaker 6>How much? Is it a lot of money or is

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<v Speaker 6>it just a few hundred bucks or what?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I haven't got another pumber that contacted another

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<v Speaker 8>pummer yet, but the thing about it is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 8>cost me a few hundred dollars, four hundred dollars at least.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's what I'm thinking, Tim, Maybe you do that

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<v Speaker 5>job to finish it, and then you simply go after

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<v Speaker 5>him for the money it takes to fix it, rather

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<v Speaker 5>than trying to get this deadbeat to do the right

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's obviously not going to do anything. So

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<v Speaker 5>your losses, if your losses are five hundred dollars or less.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it doesn't even pay to go after it. If

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<v Speaker 5>you can get this fixed for five hundred or less,

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<v Speaker 5>you do that, keep the receipt and then take the

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<v Speaker 5>guy to small claims court, which will get you a judgment,

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<v Speaker 5>and then we can help you collect on that judgment.

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<v Speaker 5>But other than that, if it's only a few hundred

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<v Speaker 5>to get it fixed, I wouldn't bother. Have it checked

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<v Speaker 5>out and let us know. I'm Tom Martinez. We got

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<v Speaker 5>more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 7>Ripped up.

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<v Speaker 2>New need advice, so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 7>Come running.

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<v Speaker 3>Just as fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 4>Come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, I'm Tom Martino. Welcome to the show. This is

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<v Speaker 5>a busy day today. If you got to have a problem,

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<v Speaker 5>question and complain you want to discuss, if you have one,

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<v Speaker 5>give us a call at there.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a couple numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>when we're on the air or whatever. Just call and

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<v Speaker 5>say I'm having this problem. We'll call you back and

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<v Speaker 5>six two seven eight four six three oh three Martino

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<v Speaker 5>and then of course you call three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 5>one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're looking for a will or you need to

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<v Speaker 5>compose a trust or maybe an LLC, a family LLC

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<v Speaker 5>that can actually be used in place of a trust,

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<v Speaker 5>Dan McKenzie has many creative ideas and can help you

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<v Speaker 5>with your estate plan McKenzie Law Dan McKenzie and that

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<v Speaker 5>number is eight three three co plans eight three three

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<v Speaker 5>co plans. Hey, We've been following this auction at rollerauctions

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<v Speaker 5>dot com and then you click the Buy and Build link.

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<v Speaker 5>Buy and Build is a long time sponsor of ours

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<v Speaker 5>on the show, and we've sent a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>to Buy and.

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<v Speaker 6>Build because we love the way they do business.

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<v Speaker 5>They're a big giant warehouse for cabinets and uh and

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<v Speaker 5>plumbing like for fix yours and bats and all of that,

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<v Speaker 5>and they have twice a year this auction where they

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<v Speaker 5>sell all kinds of stuff, not just their normal cabinets

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<v Speaker 5>and vanities and countertops and sinks and faucets and all

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<v Speaker 5>of that. They they don't actually do the all of

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<v Speaker 5>they do all of that, but they also do so

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<v Speaker 5>many other things. It's hard to explain. You have to

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<v Speaker 5>go and browse this auction for yourself. But it started today,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to go on through tomorrow, and it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to start closing tomorrow where you have a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>do some live bidding and it gets exciting.

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<v Speaker 6>So Courtney, I've been looking.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe I saw you even had some wristwatches

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<v Speaker 5>on the auction.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, there's something Victor Watches brand new in the

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<v Speaker 7>box and Victor Watches. They're really nice and we like

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<v Speaker 7>to bring there's in a sort of just a little

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<v Speaker 7>category of gift items to spice up the auction a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 5>They texted me, do you have plumbing fixtures?

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<v Speaker 6>I know I mentioned it, but you may not.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually do you deal in the actual tubs or toilets?

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<v Speaker 7>We do not at our store, but we do have

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<v Speaker 7>them in our auction. We used to sell tubs and

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<v Speaker 7>toilets out of our store, and then when we moved

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<v Speaker 7>to our new location, we just went to cabinets, granite sinks,

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<v Speaker 7>and faucets. So we do have the faucets in the

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<v Speaker 7>sink portion, but we didn't. We no longer carry toilets

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<v Speaker 7>and tile and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, what about the what about the floors in general?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you have any floors in this auction?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we have quite a bit of flooring in this auction.

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<v Speaker 7>We have four full rolls of carpet. We've got four

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<v Speaker 7>pallets of different colors of tile. We've got LVP, which

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<v Speaker 7>is that you final plank that looks like wood that's

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<v Speaker 7>much more dirt. We have a couple of three colors

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<v Speaker 7>of that available. We also have some solid three quarter

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<v Speaker 7>inch hardwood. We have some red oak and some white

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<v Speaker 7>oak in a couple different grades.

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<v Speaker 5>And when the auction ends, can you explain how it

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<v Speaker 5>goes back and forth tomorrow and what time that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to start.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I recommend jumping online a little bit before items

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<v Speaker 7>start to close at one o'clock PM. I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>the way I like to bid is I like to

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<v Speaker 7>get on early, and I like to place my maximum

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<v Speaker 7>bid now and then I don't get hung up in

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<v Speaker 7>that war at the end. And so what you can

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<v Speaker 7>do is you can set a maximum bid right now,

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<v Speaker 7>say an item sitting at twenty five cents I'm looking

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<v Speaker 7>right now at some hardwood. There's some hardwood sitting at

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen cents of square foot for five inch solid white

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<v Speaker 7>oak flooring block fifteen cents of foot if your next

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<v Speaker 7>bid is going to be twenty cents a foot, and

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<v Speaker 7>then you can put a maximum in there, say ninety

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<v Speaker 7>nine cents of foot or whatever, and so the computer

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<v Speaker 7>will automatically bid for you all the way up and

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<v Speaker 7>tell your maximum. Those numbers don't get shared with anybody.

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody knows what your maximum is. It's a felon you

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<v Speaker 7>to share that information. So your your maximum bid is

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<v Speaker 7>totally safe. You can win that item well below your

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<v Speaker 7>maximum bid if nobody bids against you, and then it'll

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<v Speaker 7>bit for you right up to your maximum. And then

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<v Speaker 7>you can log on tomorrow and see how you're doing,

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01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:20.720
<v Speaker 7>see if you've been outbid on any items, and if

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<v Speaker 7>you want to raise your your threshold on that or

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<v Speaker 7>if you want to you know, bit on something new.

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<v Speaker 6>And I notice here.

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<v Speaker 5>If you go to rollerauction dot com R O L

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<v Speaker 5>L E. R rollerauction dot com and hit buy and build,

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<v Speaker 5>you can browse page by page if you want to

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<v Speaker 5>see absolutely everything, or they have the keyword search you

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<v Speaker 5>can do or they have different kinds of sorting options.

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<v Speaker 5>So really go there, just see and I see a

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<v Speaker 5>button called watch. So what does that watch button do.

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<v Speaker 7>That gives you? Well, so one that'll give you notices

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<v Speaker 7>on the price, but it also kind of gives you updates,

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01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:02.640
<v Speaker 7>so you can when you log on, you can look

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<v Speaker 7>at what items you're watching, and I will skip over

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<v Speaker 7>all the stuff that you've decided you don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>bid on, and it'll can you a list of the

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<v Speaker 7>stuff you're watching.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, that's really good. So if you want to go

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<v Speaker 6>through here and you find.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuff, hit the watch button and it'll sort it for

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<v Speaker 5>you next time around, and you can bid on just

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<v Speaker 5>those items if you want, or just watch those items.

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<v Speaker 5>What are some more of the unusual stuff?

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<v Speaker 6>Are things you might have this year?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, honestly, it's kind of nice to see toilets at

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<v Speaker 7>my auction again. We haven't had toilets at are auction

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<v Speaker 7>and probably three or four different sales, so it's nice

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<v Speaker 7>to see those on the floor again. And then this time,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, last auction we had some six panel solid

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<v Speaker 7>pine doors pre hung, and then we have the two

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<v Speaker 7>panel knotty pine doors pre hung this time, we'd brought

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<v Speaker 7>a six panel Holocorps interior door. So if somebody needs

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<v Speaker 7>to do interior doors in their house or in a

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01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:58.439
<v Speaker 7>rental or anything like that, these are those holocre doors

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<v Speaker 7>that are much better value and you'll really save a

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<v Speaker 7>ton of money. You'd be able to There's so many

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<v Speaker 7>different sizes and swings that are available at this auction.

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<v Speaker 7>You can fill up the entire house and buy all

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01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:10.840
<v Speaker 7>doors that match, and you'll be able to save an

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<v Speaker 7>absolute portion on them.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, you will. And they're beautiful doors. They come

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<v Speaker 5>pre hung. I'm looking at them right now. And some

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<v Speaker 5>of these doors, you have so many of them, Courtney,

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01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 5>so many of them that I'll venture to say, you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to have a lot going at minimum bids. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the there are many of these interior u

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<v Speaker 5>pre hung doors, six panel hollow court interior door with frame.

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<v Speaker 5>You have various sizes, and I see a lot of

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01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:45.119
<v Speaker 5>them sitting at zero and others at only five dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I don't see how Courtney, You're gonna

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01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:52.520
<v Speaker 5>get action on every one of these. You're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot of people walking away with some really

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<v Speaker 5>really great deals on these doors.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I think there is going to be some great

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01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.239
<v Speaker 7>deals on these doors. A nice thing about bringing as

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01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 7>many as we brought, and I know it does look

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01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:06.760
<v Speaker 7>like we brought way too many doors. But when you

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01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:08.880
<v Speaker 7>do a house, if you really walk through your house

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01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 7>and you count how many doors you have in your

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01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 7>house and what the size of those doors are, and

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01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:14.840
<v Speaker 7>the different swings because some swing to the right, some

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01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.560
<v Speaker 7>swing to the left, right, and you put up a list.

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01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, one house can have twenty twenty five doors

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01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:23.720
<v Speaker 7>in it very easily. So all we need is a

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01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:25.960
<v Speaker 7>couple of different people that need the full house full

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01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:29.119
<v Speaker 7>of doors and that we can get everybody taken care of.

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01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're changing doors, now's the time to do it.

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01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 5>These knotty pine doors. These are beautiful. They're beautiful and great.

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01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 7>Great product for Colorado. It's you know, it's got that

1509
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.159
<v Speaker 7>knotty appeal, but it's still a pine, a solid core

1510
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.079
<v Speaker 7>pine door. So it's not a holo court, it's not cheap.

1511
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.760
<v Speaker 7>It's going to have a nice, solid, heavy, rugged feeling

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01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 7>to it and still give you that appeal of the

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01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 7>knots and the natural rustic look.

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01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 5>And I can't believe how many of them are sitting

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01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:59.279
<v Speaker 5>sitting at five bucks.

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01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's incredible.

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01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 7>You know what. I don't like seeing it like that,

1518
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.720
<v Speaker 7>tom It scares me a little bit. But yeah, you know,

1519
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.199
<v Speaker 7>every auction, you know, things start to start to go

1520
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 7>tomorrow and then you know, I always like it when

1521
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:15.000
<v Speaker 7>people get really good bargains because that means the next

1522
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 7>auction they're going to tune in and they're going to

1523
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.680
<v Speaker 7>try to get good bargains again. Yeah, and really that's

1524
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:20.800
<v Speaker 7>what this is all about.

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01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:22.720
<v Speaker 6>It And I've seen him at twenty four inches.

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01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:25.279
<v Speaker 5>I've seen him at twenty four inches, twenty eight inches,

1527
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:29.199
<v Speaker 5>thirty inches, thirty two, So you have varying sizes.

1528
01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 6>People.

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01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:32.359
<v Speaker 5>If you're doing a project right now, you got to

1530
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 5>look at this site. You will save a ton of money.

1531
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 5>And that's rollerauction dot Com. And then just look for

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01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:42.800
<v Speaker 5>the buy and build on the front page the square

1533
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.359
<v Speaker 5>there and click on that square and it'll take you

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01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:50.239
<v Speaker 5>in here. So what about last time you had some

1535
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:53.760
<v Speaker 5>even I don't know, I don't remember. I think you

1536
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:57.600
<v Speaker 5>had bicycles, but you had toys anything like that in

1537
01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:58.960
<v Speaker 5>this lot anywhere.

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01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:01.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we have quite a few toys. It's towards the

1539
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:04.800
<v Speaker 7>end of the auction. So right about lot let me

1540
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.680
<v Speaker 7>see here, right about lot three fifty or so, it

1541
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 7>starts to get into non building material items and you know,

1542
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:14.399
<v Speaker 7>right after the doors there, so we've got, you know,

1543
01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:16.560
<v Speaker 7>a lot three point fifty four is a grand entry

1544
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 7>a door that's really beautiful front door for your home.

1545
01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:22.439
<v Speaker 7>And then it goes into some throw ruads, and then

1546
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 7>it goes into the miscellaneous stuff. There's pickleball rackets, there's paddleboards,

1547
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:29.960
<v Speaker 7>there are tons of different gift items and toys. One

1548
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 7>of the big things that we have is this mix

1549
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:37.159
<v Speaker 7>and mash that it is a I don't know, thirty

1550
01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 7>piece slime set and it's got all sorts of different

1551
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.079
<v Speaker 7>colors of slime with glitters and all sorts of stuff.

1552
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:44.840
<v Speaker 7>Kids love this stuff, and I.

1553
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.800
<v Speaker 5>Will Now they are these, by the way, these interior doors.

1554
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 6>These are thousands of dollars worth of doors.

1555
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.159
<v Speaker 5>One of them, for example, a naughty elder grand entry

1556
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.520
<v Speaker 5>doorway with side lights and then there's uh six lights

1557
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.319
<v Speaker 5>in the main door. You're looking at a bid right

1558
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 5>now of one hundred and ten dollars, I mean, you know, and.

1559
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.680
<v Speaker 7>That's that door right there's probably a three thousand dollars door.

1560
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 5>If you're holy crap, I'm telling you right now, anyone,

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01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.159
<v Speaker 5>And and here's what's great anyone going through a project,

1562
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 5>do it.

1563
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:17.800
<v Speaker 6>And here's what I like.

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01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Even if you don't like the bid on one, there

1565
01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:25.279
<v Speaker 5>are identical runs right next to it because he has

1566
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:27.840
<v Speaker 5>so many of the same, which means you can start

1567
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 5>your own bid out lower. So that really accordiny. That

1568
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.960
<v Speaker 5>really can get complicated. I mean, you got some people

1569
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 5>they see a bid for one hundred and ten and

1570
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.640
<v Speaker 5>right next to it there's one that hasn't bid yet

1571
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 5>they can get they can start all over.

1572
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:47.640
<v Speaker 6>On that one. So it's it's I mean, that's that.

1573
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.000
<v Speaker 5>That's puzzled me a bit why you did that, But hey,

1574
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 5>it's it's more chances for people to make great deals.

1575
01:18:55.680 --> 01:19:00.439
<v Speaker 5>And they even have security safes by Honeywell, you have

1576
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:06.560
<v Speaker 5>a depository safe with digital lock. You have outdoor furniture

1577
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at, and then of course these watches, you

1578
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:15.880
<v Speaker 5>have light fixtures. Man, it's impossible to relate to you

1579
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:17.039
<v Speaker 5>everything on here.

1580
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:19.279
<v Speaker 6>But I'm at the end now.

1581
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 7>If I really recommend you going to the site and

1582
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.880
<v Speaker 7>scrolling through it and seeing all the treasures that are there.

1583
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.000
<v Speaker 7>Even if you're not in the market for building materials.

1584
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:28.920
<v Speaker 7>They're all sorts of okay, gift items if you have

1585
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:30.359
<v Speaker 7>birthdays coming up, all sorts of.

1586
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Things rollerauction dot com look for buy and build and

1587
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 5>then buy and build. Of course, if you ever want

1588
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 5>to contact him directly through at five sixties South Lapan

1589
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.960
<v Speaker 5>and they're open for kitchens and baths buy and build

1590
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:46.520
<v Speaker 5>dot Net.

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01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:49.199
<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Courtney. We'll check back with you tomorrow.

1592
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:52.199
<v Speaker 5>When this start, When this stuff starts closing, it's going

1593
01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:55.039
<v Speaker 5>to really get exciting because you're going to see things.

1594
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Now Courtney's not going to be happy about it, but

1595
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:00.520
<v Speaker 5>you're going to see some probably hardwood floor going for

1596
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.880
<v Speaker 5>pennies on the dollar. You're going to see big thousands

1597
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.479
<v Speaker 5>of dollars worth of entry doors going for one hundred

1598
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:08.479
<v Speaker 5>to five hundred dollars.

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01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.159
<v Speaker 6>Every year, this happens every.

1600
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:16.199
<v Speaker 5>Time he has an auction, people get incredible deals. Belinda,

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01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.239
<v Speaker 5>let me start with your problem right now and I'll

1602
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:19.119
<v Speaker 5>take a quick break.

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01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 6>What is going on with you, Belinda?

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01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:26.520
<v Speaker 3>So Tom, I have a question for you. Yeah, because

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01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I was listening to you about two weeks ago and

1606
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:33.159
<v Speaker 3>there was a gentleman that had somebody pull up and

1607
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.880
<v Speaker 3>then said they had four truckloads of asphalt.

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01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.239
<v Speaker 7>Yep, Andy, yep, yep.

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01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:42.680
<v Speaker 3>And so we had the same thing happened to us

1610
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.640
<v Speaker 3>today in Colorado Springs.

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01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 5>Is it the same, by the way, you didn't fall

1612
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.840
<v Speaker 5>for it, did you?

1613
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.600
<v Speaker 3>No, That's what I'm calling you. My husband was out

1614
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.760
<v Speaker 3>there talking to him and I'm like no. And so

1615
01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.159
<v Speaker 3>I looked at the website and on his business car

1616
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:04.279
<v Speaker 3>it says make checks payable to two people, not the company.

1617
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:06.720
<v Speaker 3>And there's no physical address.

1618
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it called CNJ.

1619
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.079
<v Speaker 3>No Total Asphalt Paving And when you go into their

1620
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.760
<v Speaker 3>website it pulls up actually in California, I believe.

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01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.479
<v Speaker 5>Okay, now listen, here's what I want to tell you

1622
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:23.720
<v Speaker 5>about it. These guys, you know, might just be hard

1623
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.840
<v Speaker 5>working guys trying to make a living, but there's no

1624
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.399
<v Speaker 5>way they can prep and put down this asphalt properly.

1625
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:35.000
<v Speaker 5>We have so many people that have purchased this door

1626
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:40.000
<v Speaker 5>to door asphalt and it fails miserably. The oil content

1627
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 5>is low, the quality is low, and when you go

1628
01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:48.520
<v Speaker 5>for longevity, it starts picking up and peeling and it

1629
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.560
<v Speaker 5>turns into gravel. So the oil content's very low. There

1630
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:56.800
<v Speaker 5>is no way that these people can ever do the

1631
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.800
<v Speaker 5>prep they need properly as well. You need to scrape

1632
01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:03.119
<v Speaker 5>that ground and prep it and tamp it, and they

1633
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:07.359
<v Speaker 5>do none of that. So I'm glad that your husband

1634
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 5>didn't fall for it.

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01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 6>What were they offering.

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01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:15.399
<v Speaker 3>About forty one hundred or was it seventy one hundred?

1637
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Wait?

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01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait one hundred for seventy one hundred for how

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01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:20.520
<v Speaker 3>many square feet?

1640
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.279
<v Speaker 11>Six hundred and fifty?

1641
01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:25.960
<v Speaker 5>And what did they say they were going to do?

1642
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:27.479
<v Speaker 5>They were going to put it all down right?

1643
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 11>Then they said that they come out level my driveway,

1644
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:38.079
<v Speaker 11>which it's been gravel for years, so the gravels, you know,

1645
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 11>sinking into the ground right about every.

1646
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:42.920
<v Speaker 10>Two years, two or three years.

1647
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.760
<v Speaker 11>I got to bring in a truckload of gravel and

1648
01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.520
<v Speaker 11>throw it down and spread it with the skinster sure,

1649
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Speaker 11>which I've been doing for you here.

1650
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 5>And how did they say they would prep it for

1651
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:55.279
<v Speaker 5>a weed controlling.

1652
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:55.279
<v Speaker 2>All of that?

1653
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:02.880
<v Speaker 11>They said they would scrape it down, level everything straight

1654
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 11>edges on the asphalt, go around any.

1655
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 17>Of the concrete.

1656
01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:13.239
<v Speaker 11>Like I got an apron around my garage, man all

1657
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 11>open because.

1658
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.760
<v Speaker 5>I man, were they literally driving or was this hot

1659
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.039
<v Speaker 5>blacktop right in their truck? Right?

1660
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:20.760
<v Speaker 6>At that time.

1661
01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 11>No, oh, they it's not it's million it's asphalt milling.

1662
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.279
<v Speaker 11>And then they go over with a sailor.

1663
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 5>So okay, they were going to put down the so

1664
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 5>they put down the lead, the loose gravel basically this

1665
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:44.359
<v Speaker 5>the asphalt trailings, and then then they come over with

1666
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:46.960
<v Speaker 5>like a tar mixture and then they roll it.

1667
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:49.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

1668
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:51.720
<v Speaker 11>Well yeah, they put the asphalt down, they roll it,

1669
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.520
<v Speaker 11>they pack it and roll it out so it's level, right,

1670
01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:59.520
<v Speaker 11>so I wouldn't have any potholes or anything like that.

1671
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:03.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you would have potholes, you'd have failure within

1672
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:04.159
<v Speaker 5>thirty days.

1673
01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:05.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you didn't do it.

1674
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.279
<v Speaker 5>No, No, seriously, these scams, they come out of the woodwork.

1675
01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:12.399
<v Speaker 6>Most likely they're travelers.

1676
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:17.560
<v Speaker 5>They go city by city according to the weather. But

1677
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 5>no matter what, you did a smart thing not using them.

1678
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:25.560
<v Speaker 5>Don't ever, ever, ever, ever do a job based on

1679
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.199
<v Speaker 5>a door to door sale. I would say, if you

1680
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:32.199
<v Speaker 5>looked at a universe of people, most people who get

1681
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.359
<v Speaker 5>ripped off they get ripped off from people who have

1682
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:39.000
<v Speaker 5>approached them, as opposed to the other way around. We

1683
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:42.039
<v Speaker 5>have more coming up, so I'm not saying everyone going

1684
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:43.520
<v Speaker 5>door to doors ripping people off.

1685
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.359
<v Speaker 6>But what I'm saying is, if.

1686
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:49.199
<v Speaker 5>You took a survey of people ripped off, most of

1687
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:53.840
<v Speaker 5>those people were approached at their door for home products

1688
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:55.279
<v Speaker 5>more coming right up.

1689
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:01.119
<v Speaker 19>Even ripped off or taking advantage of this is the

1690
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.960
<v Speaker 19>show for you. Really, you got a bad contractor out there.

1691
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 19>Three to oh three, Martino, You got a bad landlord?

1692
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 19>Three oh three Martino, You get the idea. I've got

1693
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:14.079
<v Speaker 19>deputy standing by to start digging in. We got any updates, Scott?

1694
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:15.399
<v Speaker 19>You got anything over there?

1695
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Man?

1696
01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:20.800
<v Speaker 20>Now, I'm just working a couple of cases from last week.

1697
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Like what what are you working on? One of them

1698
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>was this Mike.

1699
01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 20>Garage door company? Yep, what about it too? And I

1700
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.840
<v Speaker 20>called the garage door company. The guy just wanted an

1701
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:35.399
<v Speaker 20>estimate for a spring. No, I repair a repanel. Yeah, okay,

1702
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:41.039
<v Speaker 20>back into it. And I called the garage door company

1703
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:43.880
<v Speaker 20>and it's like, no, this person's not here.

1704
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>This person said you're a kid anywhere.

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01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:46.640
<v Speaker 8>Now.

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01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:48.880
<v Speaker 19>You know that's kind of the deal these days, is

1707
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:52.079
<v Speaker 19>you simply don't well, you don't cop to anything.

1708
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Why I talk to someone?

1709
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 19>Just keep putting them off and putting them off and

1710
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:59.600
<v Speaker 19>putting them off. An example would be what was that Dimitri.

1711
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 19>What that engine company last week that ended up ended

1712
01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:05.359
<v Speaker 19>up on Sleavesburgade.

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01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>What was the name of it, Oh, go Cats bead shop.

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01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.119
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, go cats like them the guy. The guy literally

1715
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:14.319
<v Speaker 19>didn't do anything for seven years. The guy gave him

1716
01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:17.920
<v Speaker 19>seventy five hundred dollars for an engine. Seven years goes by,

1717
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:22.279
<v Speaker 19>and he's still making excuses up I mean, companies nowadays

1718
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:23.119
<v Speaker 19>are crazy.

1719
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.199
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, the economy is awful. Four guys are dying out,

1720
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:28.520
<v Speaker 14>blah blah blah.

1721
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:31.119
<v Speaker 19>Oh my god, he's like, I'm sick, my mother's sick.

1722
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:34.119
<v Speaker 19>They if you went through the text, you'd be blown

1723
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.800
<v Speaker 19>away by all the problems in the guy's life. But

1724
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.880
<v Speaker 19>of course, you know there's nothing going on over there.

1725
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.680
<v Speaker 19>Like literally, I don't think there's anything upstairs on that guy.

1726
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.840
<v Speaker 19>And speaking of Sleavesburgade, people should check it out. If

1727
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.399
<v Speaker 19>you're new to the show, you know, we help people

1728
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:53.039
<v Speaker 19>out all the time going after companies. There's some companies though,

1729
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:54.760
<v Speaker 19>that end up on Sleavesburgade.

1730
01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 2>These are the worst of the worst.

1731
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.199
<v Speaker 19>These are guys like the one we were just talking about,

1732
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:03.640
<v Speaker 19>take seventy five hundred dollars seven years ago and has

1733
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.800
<v Speaker 19>given nothing but excuses one after another.

1734
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Now, maybe the guy did pay for excuses.

1735
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:13.359
<v Speaker 19>So, in other words, a dollar an excuse, we're almost

1736
01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:16.800
<v Speaker 19>eating up to seventy five hundred bucks. Who's the worst

1737
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:20.119
<v Speaker 19>you guys can think of, Scott that we've dealt with recently,

1738
01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:21.640
<v Speaker 19>like in.

1739
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>The last year, who's the worst you've dealt with?

1740
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:24.279
<v Speaker 7>Well?

1741
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.920
<v Speaker 20>I was just looking at my notes because I was

1742
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:31.600
<v Speaker 20>working on that case with Cocats Speech Shop a year ago.

1743
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that was a different one, wasn't it.

1744
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:37.000
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it was a different same shop, different customer, was

1745
01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:40.960
<v Speaker 14>it er? No, the guy we're dealing with.

1746
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>No, it's definitely the same shop customers. Okay, yeah, oh

1747
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Eric is the owner?

1748
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:46.079
<v Speaker 7>Yees?

1749
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the owner different right, Okay?

1750
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:51.840
<v Speaker 19>And that guy apparently, And then didn't you find some judgments?

1751
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>The guy's actually been to court and lost.

1752
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.760
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, somebody sued him in a Rapo County last year

1753
01:27:57.840 --> 01:27:59.560
<v Speaker 14>and I haven't been able to see how that case

1754
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:02.520
<v Speaker 14>turned out out. And then a few years ago somebody

1755
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:06.199
<v Speaker 14>from California, a guy by the name of Piazza, domesticated

1756
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:07.199
<v Speaker 14>a Piazza.

1757
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>He must he must be Canadian, right.

1758
01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:14.720
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, he domesticated a thirty seven thousand dollars judgment here

1759
01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:18.840
<v Speaker 14>in jeffco against Gokat. So, yeah, I mean, I just

1760
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:21.119
<v Speaker 14>I just don't think Harold is going to get anywhere

1761
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Speaker 14>with this guy.

1762
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he has any money left. They're just

1763
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>they're not good guys.

1764
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.319
<v Speaker 19>How about you, Dimitri, Besides this guy, what's the worst

1765
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:28.279
<v Speaker 19>one you can think of?

1766
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Tony, I'll to you in a second. You know that's

1767
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>an easy one.

1768
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:35.439
<v Speaker 14>There's an especially tragic case that it's actually Bo's case.

1769
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:37.800
<v Speaker 14>I've been helping him out with since I joined you

1770
01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:42.560
<v Speaker 14>guys last year, and that's justin Garcia's Patriot remodeling out

1771
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:43.680
<v Speaker 14>of Calorida Springs.

1772
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>He was fifty or thirty too.

1773
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.399
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, he's alleged to have taken the last of this

1774
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:53.199
<v Speaker 14>old lady's money sixty two thousand dollars to put together

1775
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.479
<v Speaker 14>a cabin kit that she you know, foolishly bought. Uh,

1776
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.319
<v Speaker 14>didn't lift a finger, didn't do anything. Neil Neil Hollington

1777
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.680
<v Speaker 14>from Hollington Law took that case on on behalf of Carol.

1778
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.159
<v Speaker 14>This is the elderly lady and it's still kind of

1779
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:07.880
<v Speaker 14>winding its way through the process.

1780
01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope he's got some money.

1781
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:11.199
<v Speaker 19>I hope he's got a pot to piss and so

1782
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.199
<v Speaker 19>she can at least take it or do something.

1783
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.479
<v Speaker 2>I hope so too. You know, I don't know why

1784
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>it's worse when it's old people. Well you know what

1785
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it is.

1786
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 19>In fact, there's even criminal laws built around that. But

1787
01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:29.439
<v Speaker 19>it's so it's so disheartening hearing when someone that age,

1788
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:32.159
<v Speaker 19>anybody over even sixty or over seventy.

1789
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean the older the worst.

1790
01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:35.680
<v Speaker 19>But how about the guy that went in and pumped

1791
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.000
<v Speaker 19>what twenty five thousand dollars into the ATM machine and

1792
01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:45.079
<v Speaker 19>got ripped off on the liquor store And the story

1793
01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:47.399
<v Speaker 19>was so crazy it was hard to believe. Didn't you

1794
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:48.039
<v Speaker 19>go over there?

1795
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that liver dollar? Yeah, dollar actually went over there.

1796
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:55.680
<v Speaker 19>There's some law changes to where the owner of these

1797
01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:00.079
<v Speaker 19>bitcoin ATMs can be held responsible, starting it to be

1798
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.239
<v Speaker 19>beginning of the year, which I think will tighten up

1799
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 19>a lot of that stuff. But I think it's crazy

1800
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:08.399
<v Speaker 19>they even have a machine and a liquor store that

1801
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:11.960
<v Speaker 19>you can walk up to and put twenty five thousand

1802
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:13.680
<v Speaker 19>dollars at one time in cash.

1803
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's bonkers.

1804
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:19.520
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, there's no legitimate reason for that. These bitcoin ATMs

1805
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:22.920
<v Speaker 14>seem to be designed and maintained to support a vast

1806
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:24.520
<v Speaker 14>network of international scammera.

1807
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree one hundred percent.

1808
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.960
<v Speaker 19>Listen, we got an issue on a Kia coming up

1809
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:32.199
<v Speaker 19>in just a second. But somebody, I'm not going to

1810
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:37.000
<v Speaker 19>say his name, went very very very long on the

1811
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:39.399
<v Speaker 19>last break. I'll make this one quick.

1812
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

1813
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 5>So what's going on with Tony? Did we take him

1814
01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:49.880
<v Speaker 5>in all Tony?

1815
01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:52.439
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm here.

1816
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:54.319
<v Speaker 6>What's happening, sir?

1817
01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:56.279
<v Speaker 11>So?

1818
01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:00.560
<v Speaker 10>Last year I bought a twenty twenty you Tell You

1819
01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:04.119
<v Speaker 10>Ride and the Carlins was adamant, you got to get

1820
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:07.159
<v Speaker 10>this extended warranty. You don't want to be without it,

1821
01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 10>this and that. So they got me a warranty through

1822
01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 10>this Fidelity warranty company.

1823
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:13.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1824
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:17.279
<v Speaker 10>So I didn't have any problems, but last week I

1825
01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 10>have a problem with it. So they're saying they needs

1826
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:22.560
<v Speaker 10>a new training put in it. So the guy comes

1827
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:26.720
<v Speaker 10>out or what they sent out a rep from the

1828
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:29.800
<v Speaker 10>warranty company and he looks at it and I had

1829
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:33.279
<v Speaker 10>a list sticker in the window. So he said they

1830
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:37.079
<v Speaker 10>avoided it because commercial use.

1831
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's big time, man.

1832
01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:40.319
<v Speaker 19>If you did, I don't care if it's one time

1833
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:44.399
<v Speaker 19>or ten times, all these aftermarket warranties. If you use

1834
01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:47.239
<v Speaker 19>them for any form of commercial use, which is Lyft

1835
01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:50.239
<v Speaker 19>and Uber and any kind of ride share man or

1836
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:53.720
<v Speaker 19>Toro or any of them, you're out. You're out, You're out.

1837
01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:55.840
<v Speaker 6>Holy crap.

1838
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:56.920
<v Speaker 10>Explain that to me.

1839
01:31:57.239 --> 01:31:58.640
<v Speaker 7>I had those sticks.

1840
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>In your contract. I guarantee it.

1841
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:04.560
<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, I don't think say Tony.

1842
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.560
<v Speaker 10>Anything about do an uber or Lyft.

1843
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:10.880
<v Speaker 19>Tony, I would bet you one hundred dollars right now

1844
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:13.960
<v Speaker 19>against ten dollars if you send me over that agreement,

1845
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.439
<v Speaker 19>I'll point out exactly it might not say Uber or Lyft,

1846
01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:17.880
<v Speaker 19>but it said.

1847
01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:22.399
<v Speaker 10>It might say h yeah, and I don't say right share.

1848
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:27.079
<v Speaker 10>It says for commercial use, yes, or deliveries, which I

1849
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:28.039
<v Speaker 10>didn't use it for.

1850
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 19>Yes, you are well, first of all, you're delivering people.

1851
01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:35.279
<v Speaker 19>I feel bad for you, man, I know what you're saying.

1852
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:38.319
<v Speaker 19>No one reads these contracts and they try to get

1853
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.760
<v Speaker 19>Let me tell you there's eight million loopholes.

1854
01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:42.600
<v Speaker 6>This isn't going to make you feel better.

1855
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.119
<v Speaker 19>But if they didn't get you on that one, they

1856
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.119
<v Speaker 19>could have very well got you on another.

1857
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Tom That's right, I mean, and.

1858
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:54.600
<v Speaker 10>I understand that part. But the bad part of it

1859
01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:57.119
<v Speaker 10>is so they're saying, they're not going to do anything

1860
01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:00.279
<v Speaker 10>for my car. It's voided in everything, but they get

1861
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:01.079
<v Speaker 10>to keep the money.

1862
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:04.520
<v Speaker 5>Yes, well, hold on, I don't know. No, no, no, no,

1863
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 5>that wouldn't be fair. They kept the money for that warranty,

1864
01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:08.399
<v Speaker 5>of course not.

1865
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:10.960
<v Speaker 10>They're saying that they're not going to give me a refund.

1866
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:12.399
<v Speaker 10>That's what I'm saying.

1867
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:13.279
<v Speaker 7>I don't care.

1868
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:16.439
<v Speaker 10>They can avoid the warranty, but that thing cost me

1869
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.079
<v Speaker 10>almost I think it was like thirty two hundred bucks

1870
01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:22.000
<v Speaker 10>for the extra to get that warrant you put on

1871
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:25.239
<v Speaker 10>the car. And now they're saying, I figured since they

1872
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:25.960
<v Speaker 10>were the one.

1873
01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.239
<v Speaker 5>Wait wait wait, how much how much did that warn

1874
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:30.119
<v Speaker 5>how much did that warranty cost you?

1875
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:33.439
<v Speaker 10>It was a little over thirty two hundred bucks.

1876
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Wait and they say even though hold on, and they say,

1877
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:40.600
<v Speaker 5>even though they don't cover it, you still have to

1878
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:42.760
<v Speaker 5>pay that thirty two hundred bucks.

1879
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:45.840
<v Speaker 10>Well, it's in the finance. It was paid for when

1880
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:51.239
<v Speaker 10>I financed the car. How long ago was that, Like

1881
01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:53.119
<v Speaker 10>I said, maybe a year ago?

1882
01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Lettle Okay, the money, Well, they can't keep for they

1883
01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:00.279
<v Speaker 5>can't keep that money if it doesn't cover you. I

1884
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:02.439
<v Speaker 5>mean why would they keep the money if you're not

1885
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:03.239
<v Speaker 5>going to be covered.

1886
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:06.760
<v Speaker 10>Well, that's what the guy's telling me is they don't

1887
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:09.159
<v Speaker 10>do refunds. That I'm not going to get my money back.

1888
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:11.680
<v Speaker 6>And who told you that?

1889
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 10>That was the shady part. Because the finance company, or

1890
01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:19.600
<v Speaker 10>not the finance company, Fidelity, the company that was supposed

1891
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 10>to do the warranty. I talked to what guy. I

1892
01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:24.880
<v Speaker 10>tried to explain to him, and he didn't want to

1893
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.840
<v Speaker 10>hear nothing, didn't want to be helpful, just said, you know,

1894
01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:30.840
<v Speaker 10>talk to your finance you should.

1895
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:32.560
<v Speaker 19>Be able to listen man to the car. You should

1896
01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:34.439
<v Speaker 19>be able to get a pro rated. I mean, you're

1897
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:37.319
<v Speaker 19>going to have to pay up until now. But how

1898
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:39.720
<v Speaker 19>long was the warranty for where you at on the

1899
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:40.279
<v Speaker 19>pro ration?

1900
01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hold on and we'll.

1901
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:45.560
<v Speaker 6>Come right back. Ye hold on, hold on, let's I'm.

1902
01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:48.199
<v Speaker 5>Gonna we're gonna look this up and see how far

1903
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:49.680
<v Speaker 5>into the warranty and what they do.

1904
01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:51.920
<v Speaker 6>What's the name of the warranty.

1905
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:54.880
<v Speaker 10>Warranty company?

1906
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.880
<v Speaker 6>What's the name again that you were cut out?

1907
01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.840
<v Speaker 7>What is it?

1908
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.319
<v Speaker 10>Fidelity Loyalty Company?

1909
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.680
<v Speaker 5>Okay, hold on, we'll be right back with that and

1910
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:10.960
<v Speaker 5>more coming up to wait a second, Tony, we don't

1911
01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:12.079
<v Speaker 5>think there's a hope for you.

1912
01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:13.239
<v Speaker 6>We don't.

1913
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:16.199
<v Speaker 5>We're looking into it and we're looking at a copy

1914
01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:19.960
<v Speaker 5>of that. I want to go to Jay though, before

1915
01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:21.680
<v Speaker 5>the end of the hour, and then we'll collect to

1916
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:22.399
<v Speaker 5>Tony as well.

1917
01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Jay, what is your question?

1918
01:35:25.720 --> 01:35:26.239
<v Speaker 7>It's Tom.

1919
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:34.359
<v Speaker 21>I got an interesting situation here holding up getting an inheritance.

1920
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:41.760
<v Speaker 21>Is this issue was given to a church. Nobody knows

1921
01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:45.960
<v Speaker 21>what that is. There's no number. My grandfather purchased all

1922
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:49.239
<v Speaker 21>kinds of mineral rights. My mother thought she sold them

1923
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:52.600
<v Speaker 21>all in the eighties. Tons of them have popped up,

1924
01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:56.119
<v Speaker 21>leases have been sold, things are going on, Payments are

1925
01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:59.680
<v Speaker 21>still coming in. No one has a clue what they are,

1926
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:01.319
<v Speaker 21>where they are, how to find it.

1927
01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:03.760
<v Speaker 19>Sounds like oil rights, Tom, I don't even know how

1928
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:05.720
<v Speaker 19>you begin to track that stuff.

1929
01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:09.520
<v Speaker 5>It's usually tracked by the guy's name. Now, who was

1930
01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:10.520
<v Speaker 5>this to you? Jay?

1931
01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:11.520
<v Speaker 6>Was this your dad?

1932
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:15.479
<v Speaker 21>It was my mom and it was her dad that

1933
01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:17.560
<v Speaker 21>bought them all back way back when.

1934
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:21.439
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so your mom and her dad, Your mom and

1935
01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:24.000
<v Speaker 5>her dad bought mineral rights.

1936
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:28.479
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, my grandfather started to have company for my grandmother

1937
01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:32.800
<v Speaker 21>because she wanted one. My mother inherited it Okay, got it,

1938
01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:35.680
<v Speaker 21>way back, I got it? Thanks pop up?

1939
01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:41.800
<v Speaker 5>What royalties are yielded by this, by these mineral rights?

1940
01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:42.279
<v Speaker 2>How much?

1941
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.279
<v Speaker 21>I think we have no idea at this point because

1942
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:50.760
<v Speaker 21>my sister's close lipt but supposedly it's all going into

1943
01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:54.079
<v Speaker 21>an account somewhere. While she attempts to figure out where

1944
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:56.319
<v Speaker 21>they're all at, what they are, what the contracts are,

1945
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.399
<v Speaker 21>what the values are, and she's gone nowhere in a

1946
01:36:59.479 --> 01:37:01.720
<v Speaker 21>year and a half, she has Okay.

1947
01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Do you know, Jay, do you know if it was

1948
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.760
<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of money that is being made on

1949
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:08.720
<v Speaker 5>these rights or just a little money, do you have

1950
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:09.760
<v Speaker 5>any idea at all?

1951
01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:14.920
<v Speaker 21>At times my mom would say a check for eighty grand,

1952
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:18.279
<v Speaker 21>should get one for five hundred dollars, give another one

1953
01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:19.760
<v Speaker 21>for two dollars and eighty cents.

1954
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:22.359
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was okay, everywhere over the board, just

1955
01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:24.039
<v Speaker 7>all over.

1956
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.359
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Okay, I have an idea of where you can

1957
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:32.439
<v Speaker 5>start hold on and we'll talk about that. Mineral rights

1958
01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:36.600
<v Speaker 5>are very complicated. They're they're very complicated. We'll talk about

1959
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:39.720
<v Speaker 5>how to track them down and then how to dole

1960
01:37:39.800 --> 01:37:40.159
<v Speaker 5>them out.

1961
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:41.840
<v Speaker 6>Plus we're going.

1962
01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:43.600
<v Speaker 5>To go back to Tony and figure out what do

1963
01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.319
<v Speaker 5>you do with a warranty that they say they can't

1964
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:49.880
<v Speaker 5>cover anymore because of ride share? Three oh three seven

1965
01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:51.399
<v Speaker 5>one three eight two five.

1966
01:37:51.279 --> 01:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Five news, you don't happen, come running just as fast

1967
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:08.399
<v Speaker 1>as we can.

1968
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Shoot is gonna help?

1969
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:11.399
<v Speaker 12>Come?

1970
01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:19.319
<v Speaker 4>Man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, all.

1971
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:20.520
<v Speaker 5>Right, I'm Tom Martino.

1972
01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.880
<v Speaker 6>Mark take it away, all right?

1973
01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

1974
01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:29.359
<v Speaker 19>I know what that means. Here's what happened there. I'm

1975
01:38:29.359 --> 01:38:32.680
<v Speaker 19>gonna let everybody know. His food showed up at the door,

1976
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.439
<v Speaker 19>So I'm just gonna say what it is. Sonic or

1977
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.880
<v Speaker 19>Freddy showed up, So that was that. Welcome to the show,

1978
01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 19>by the way, the only show of is kind. We're

1979
01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:44.840
<v Speaker 19>here to solve problems, answer questions, and take complaints. We're

1980
01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:47.319
<v Speaker 19>working on a few things in the background right now.

1981
01:38:47.359 --> 01:38:50.880
<v Speaker 19>But please one line open three zero three Martino three

1982
01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:53.840
<v Speaker 19>zho three Martino. Hey, Tony, I want to finish up

1983
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.960
<v Speaker 19>with you real quick on this extended warranty. I get

1984
01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:00.079
<v Speaker 19>everything you're saying. You should be getting a pro rated

1985
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:03.399
<v Speaker 19>warranty for people just joining us. He bought a vehicle,

1986
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:06.760
<v Speaker 19>a twenty twenty Kia. Tell you ride and basically bought

1987
01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:10.119
<v Speaker 19>an extended warranty for thirty two hundred dollars. Had a

1988
01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:14.439
<v Speaker 19>problem with the transmission. Warranty company came out and said, Nope,

1989
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:17.079
<v Speaker 19>you're not covered because you're a lift driver. It's a

1990
01:39:17.159 --> 01:39:21.239
<v Speaker 19>commercial use, which is very true. Now why are they

1991
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:24.159
<v Speaker 19>saying they won't pro rat it. Did you already use

1992
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:27.680
<v Speaker 19>up the entire amount of time or mileage in the warranty?

1993
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:32.880
<v Speaker 10>Tony no I talked, so the guy at the warranty

1994
01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:36.279
<v Speaker 10>place said, well, call your call the finance company, or

1995
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:39.960
<v Speaker 10>not the finance company, but my dealership. So I talked

1996
01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:40.960
<v Speaker 10>to him yesterday.

1997
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>What dealership year.

1998
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:47.000
<v Speaker 10>Was Drankia up off of one hundred and fourth Avenue.

1999
01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:49.279
<v Speaker 19>And that's who sold it to you, right, That's who

2000
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:53.359
<v Speaker 19>told me. So here's how it should work. They cancel

2001
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:57.199
<v Speaker 19>the warranty they pro rated. However that pro ration looks,

2002
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.000
<v Speaker 19>then it's going to be credited to your credit union

2003
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:02.760
<v Speaker 19>or your bank, whoever the lender is. You're not going

2004
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:05.119
<v Speaker 19>to see it in your pocket, but it should take

2005
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.039
<v Speaker 19>it off the loan if it was built into the loan,

2006
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:12.039
<v Speaker 19>and I assume it was. Yes, So did you go

2007
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:14.600
<v Speaker 19>through that paperwork with the dealer that I did.

2008
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:16.720
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and I called him here.

2009
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>And what did the dealers?

2010
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:21.239
<v Speaker 10>He was he's the one who told me that they

2011
01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:22.520
<v Speaker 10>wouldn't give me a refund.

2012
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's all I'm telling you.

2013
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.880
<v Speaker 19>I'm telling you, under the circumstance you're in, these things

2014
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:29.800
<v Speaker 19>are pro rated.

2015
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of any that are not pro rated.

2016
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.600
<v Speaker 19>How many miles have how many miles have you put

2017
01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:37.279
<v Speaker 19>on the vehicle since you purchased it?

2018
01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.039
<v Speaker 10>About thirty five forty thousand?

2019
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.439
<v Speaker 19>And how many miles is the extended warranty good for.

2020
01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:47.880
<v Speaker 10>One hundred and fifty thousand or ten years?

2021
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:49.800
<v Speaker 6>Or ten years? They owe you something?

2022
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.840
<v Speaker 19>Man, Hey, Deputy D do you mind calling over and

2023
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.159
<v Speaker 19>figuring this out with the key of dealership?

2024
01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:57.119
<v Speaker 2>You understand how this stuff works?

2025
01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:58.479
<v Speaker 7>Right? Yeah?

2026
01:40:58.520 --> 01:40:59.399
<v Speaker 2>I think are so.

2027
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:01.720
<v Speaker 14>I think we have two goals if I understand you correctly,

2028
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:03.640
<v Speaker 14>to see if we can get the call or a

2029
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:06.680
<v Speaker 14>pro rated refund on that warranty, but also see if

2030
01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:09.560
<v Speaker 14>his vehicle is covered by the original manufacturer's warranty?

2031
01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:09.800
<v Speaker 8>Right?

2032
01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:14.720
<v Speaker 2>How many miles are on it right now? Tony total? Roughly?

2033
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.439
<v Speaker 10>You think I'm like one hundred and thirty seven?

2034
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, none of it's Oh yeah, it's over. Yeah, that's over.

2035
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:24.039
<v Speaker 19>And if you're extended warranty Wait wait, wait, Tony, that

2036
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:25.279
<v Speaker 19>was a great question, D.

2037
01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.359
<v Speaker 2>But I mean for multiple reasons.

2038
01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:30.800
<v Speaker 19>But Tony, your your pro ration is going to be

2039
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:33.279
<v Speaker 19>very little if it only brings you to one hundred

2040
01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:34.840
<v Speaker 19>and fifty thousand miles.

2041
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:39.399
<v Speaker 10>No, it was supposed to be from So when I

2042
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.000
<v Speaker 10>bought the car, it had seventy eight thousand. Yeah, so

2043
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.760
<v Speaker 10>that's what my one hundred and fifty is based off of.

2044
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. We've got it. Here's what Listen,

2045
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:50.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm changing this whole thing up. D.

2046
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:53.920
<v Speaker 19>We need a copy of his policy to actually figure

2047
01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:54.880
<v Speaker 19>out what it says.

2048
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we got to know where it is.

2049
01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:58.840
<v Speaker 19>I don't think that warranty was going to cover him

2050
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.880
<v Speaker 19>to two hundred and thirty thousand miles or whatever the

2051
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:02.399
<v Speaker 19>math is.

2052
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Tony.

2053
01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:06.279
<v Speaker 19>Can you take a picture or grab the pdf, send

2054
01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:09.920
<v Speaker 19>it to help at troubleshooter dot com, Kelly pick up,

2055
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:13.319
<v Speaker 19>give him the information. But D, that's where we gotta go.

2056
01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:15.520
<v Speaker 19>We got to see what this guy actually bought.

2057
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 2>And when you do.

2058
01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:19.439
<v Speaker 19>Get the policy or the warranty, you're gonna see how

2059
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:20.640
<v Speaker 19>the pro ration works.

2060
01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>And we can figure that out as well. Sound good,

2061
01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you got it? Hey, Jake? What's going on with State Farm?

2062
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:31.159
<v Speaker 7>Jake?

2063
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Jake?

2064
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:41.119
<v Speaker 19>Jake, Jake, Hey, Jake, what's up?

2065
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 2>My god? Am I crazy? Am I not hearing?

2066
01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:44.359
<v Speaker 7>Jake?

2067
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Or what's going on here?

2068
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:47.560
<v Speaker 17>Scammed me?

2069
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And how did they scam you?

2070
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:51.760
<v Speaker 7>Jake?

2071
01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Give me an idea here, dive into it a little.

2072
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:56.439
<v Speaker 3>They usually.

2073
01:42:57.640 --> 01:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Like FI a month.

2074
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:02.600
<v Speaker 7>They charged me one thousand dollars a month, Jake?

2075
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:06.680
<v Speaker 2>How old are you? Twenty five?

2076
01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:09.840
<v Speaker 19>And then what were they charging you? Five hundred dollars

2077
01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:10.279
<v Speaker 19>a month?

2078
01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:10.399
<v Speaker 11>For?

2079
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:13.680
<v Speaker 8>My god?

2080
01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:16.920
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, he's a nut. Well, he's not a nut, he's

2081
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:20.800
<v Speaker 19>a child. He's twenty five, Jake? Really, why are you calling?

2082
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:20.960
<v Speaker 8>Though?

2083
01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I find it curious? You realize?

2084
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:23.119
<v Speaker 7>Ah?

2085
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>You hung up? You know.

2086
01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:27.239
<v Speaker 19>I listened to talk radio as a kid too, and

2087
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:32.279
<v Speaker 19>I called up, of all people, Talknet Talknet had Bruce Williams,

2088
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:36.680
<v Speaker 19>and Talknett had Sally, Jesse, Raphael and I called up,

2089
01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:39.920
<v Speaker 19>No kidding, I called up when I was probably Jake's

2090
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:44.359
<v Speaker 19>age share, somewhere around ten twelve years old. I called

2091
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:46.359
<v Speaker 19>up and it was a late night live talk show.

2092
01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.239
<v Speaker 19>I was probably supposed to be sleeping. In fact, I

2093
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:51.560
<v Speaker 19>would assume Jake's supposed to be in school. But that's

2094
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:55.640
<v Speaker 19>all right, Jake. I hope the truant officers don't show up.

2095
01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:59.560
<v Speaker 19>But here's the deal. I actually called up and told

2096
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:04.159
<v Speaker 19>them I was fourteen and got my girlfriend pregnant and

2097
01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:07.640
<v Speaker 19>she bought everything hook line and sinker, no kidding, and

2098
01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:08.800
<v Speaker 19>I thought it was funny.

2099
01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I never laughed.

2100
01:44:09.640 --> 01:44:11.479
<v Speaker 19>I just kind of hung up and kept the whole

2101
01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:14.960
<v Speaker 19>thing going for the listeners. Never thought about it until

2102
01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:17.279
<v Speaker 19>I was out. I lived in Oklahoma at the time.

2103
01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:20.600
<v Speaker 19>I was out in New York visiting my grandparents for

2104
01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:23.920
<v Speaker 19>the summer, where my uncle Johnny lived. I went over,

2105
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:26.159
<v Speaker 19>and I loved hanging out with my uncle Johnny when

2106
01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:29.079
<v Speaker 19>I was a kid, and I went over there, and

2107
01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:32.119
<v Speaker 19>sure enough he asked me, he goes, Hey, did you

2108
01:44:32.279 --> 01:44:36.880
<v Speaker 19>happen to call up Sally Jesse Rafael and say that

2109
01:44:37.039 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 19>you knocked up a girl because it sounded just like you,

2110
01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:41.119
<v Speaker 19>And sure enough I did.

2111
01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>And that was that. So Jake, have fun. I'm not

2112
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:45.399
<v Speaker 2>going to scold the kid.

2113
01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:48.640
<v Speaker 19>Hey, did you ever do anything Dmitri or Scott or

2114
01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:50.760
<v Speaker 19>even Shan and shann and I can see as a

2115
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:54.000
<v Speaker 19>Shenanigans person and Jay the reason we do have open

2116
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.079
<v Speaker 19>lines three O three seven one three eight two five five.

2117
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:01.039
<v Speaker 19>So I do want to say this, Jay, I'm waiting

2118
01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:03.960
<v Speaker 19>for Tom to come back because he's dealt with mineral

2119
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:07.039
<v Speaker 19>rights and oil rights and stuff that I simply have

2120
01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:09.079
<v Speaker 19>not dealt with. If we can get an expert on,

2121
01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:12.359
<v Speaker 19>that's fine, but tracking that stuff downs very hard. But

2122
01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:16.520
<v Speaker 19>hold on, when Tom gets back, we'll dive into that now, Dimitri,

2123
01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:19.039
<v Speaker 19>did you ever do anything like this?

2124
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready? Do I have you? Or are you

2125
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:22.479
<v Speaker 2>stuffing your face with hot dogs?

2126
01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:22.960
<v Speaker 7>No?

2127
01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm here, the hot dogs aren't haven't arrived yet.

2128
01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

2129
01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:29.560
<v Speaker 19>So oh the HVAC guys showed up. Mm hmm okay,

2130
01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:33.600
<v Speaker 19>So here's a question. Okay, did you ever do any

2131
01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:40.680
<v Speaker 19>hijinks like this? Order pizzas to someone's house? No, you

2132
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:43.079
<v Speaker 19>never ordered it, well like when you were a teenager.

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01:45:43.439 --> 01:45:47.199
<v Speaker 19>You literally never ordered a pizza to someone's house.

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01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:52.079
<v Speaker 14>No, but we did place a classified for sale ad

2135
01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 14>in the Rocky Mountain News about using our high school

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01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:03.479
<v Speaker 14>principles address of saying you tennis courts must go almost free.

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01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:08.359
<v Speaker 19>Used tennis courts, and then you put his address there.

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01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Her address there?

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01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:12.560
<v Speaker 19>What the hell? Has it used tennis court? You mean

2140
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:13.520
<v Speaker 19>tennis racket.

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01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:15.199
<v Speaker 2>No, tennis courts.

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01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:19.760
<v Speaker 14>We're selling used tennis courts, and we used our school principles,

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01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:23.239
<v Speaker 14>home address and her actual real phone number. Did you

2144
01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:24.319
<v Speaker 14>ever get busted?

2145
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:28.720
<v Speaker 2>No, she never figured out who it was. I never

2146
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>thought my apologies to doctor Anderson.

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01:46:31.680 --> 01:46:35.880
<v Speaker 19>I never would have thought to put a that's so

2148
01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:38.960
<v Speaker 19>funny you said that. If I thought about that when

2149
01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:43.000
<v Speaker 19>I was a teenager or in middle school particularly, I

2150
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:47.000
<v Speaker 19>would have definitely put all kinds of ads in the paper.

2151
01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I just never even thought about it.

2152
01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:53.680
<v Speaker 19>In fact, I probably go to the personals and pick

2153
01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:57.079
<v Speaker 19>out a teacher that, let's just say, maybe I didn't

2154
01:46:57.119 --> 01:47:00.279
<v Speaker 19>get along with, and put in a personal like, you know,

2155
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:04.680
<v Speaker 19>looking for a looking for something, an older woman, or

2156
01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:05.359
<v Speaker 19>however you.

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01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Wanted to phrase it. That was ingenius, man.

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01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:11.319
<v Speaker 19>I don't know about the tennis court part. That's just

2159
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:11.920
<v Speaker 19>out there.

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01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:14.239
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I'm not sure who came up with that idea,

2161
01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:16.319
<v Speaker 14>but it was eight dollars really well invested.

2162
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.640
<v Speaker 19>Oh my god, it's it's well invested as of EVA. Now,

2163
01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:22.640
<v Speaker 19>all right, Steve, Steve and Jay hold tight. We'll be

2164
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:29.560
<v Speaker 19>right back after this. Steve's got a comment on that

2165
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:30.920
<v Speaker 19>extended warranty issue.

2166
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Steve, what's your comment.

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01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:35.479
<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm thinking that if that was going to be

2168
01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.920
<v Speaker 11>voided because of the rights share, he should get it

2169
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:39.399
<v Speaker 11>all back.

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01:47:39.319 --> 01:47:41.159
<v Speaker 7>Because he wouldn't have been able to use it at all.

2171
01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:44.119
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, but that doesn't I mean, that part simply doesn't matter.

2172
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.039
<v Speaker 19>It's going to be pro rated from the time you

2173
01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:48.880
<v Speaker 19>asked for a cancelation and that's just going to be

2174
01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:52.079
<v Speaker 19>part of the contract. And you know, it's not really

2175
01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:54.920
<v Speaker 19>their fault that he was doing right share. In the agreement,

2176
01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:58.399
<v Speaker 19>I'm sure it says no commercial vehicles now in a

2177
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.159
<v Speaker 19>common sense, man, I agree with you one hundred percent

2178
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:04.439
<v Speaker 19>what he bought, but we got to take this into consideration.

2179
01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:06.960
<v Speaker 19>I don't know if he was doing ride share from

2180
01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:09.800
<v Speaker 19>day one. He might have just started doing ride share,

2181
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:13.119
<v Speaker 19>but if he did do it from day one, you know,

2182
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:15.600
<v Speaker 19>I do agree with you there was no use for

2183
01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:19.520
<v Speaker 19>that warranty, but that's just simply not how the cancelation works,

2184
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:20.039
<v Speaker 19>you follow.

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01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and then I was also thinking maybe he could

2186
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:25.359
<v Speaker 7>go claim that sticker was in the car when he

2187
01:48:25.399 --> 01:48:26.640
<v Speaker 7>bought it and he never used it.

2188
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:28.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

2189
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of thinking that too.

2190
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.840
<v Speaker 19>People out there that have an extended warranty if you

2191
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:35.640
<v Speaker 19>got an uber or lyft, one of the Neon signs

2192
01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:39.600
<v Speaker 19>or a bumper sticker or the windshield sticker. My god,

2193
01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:43.439
<v Speaker 19>remember this please. If anything, this will help you. If

2194
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:46.880
<v Speaker 19>you're going to make a claim, don't talk uber, don't

2195
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:51.039
<v Speaker 19>talk Flyft. Get the stickers, the signs and everything else

2196
01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:53.640
<v Speaker 19>out of there. I mean, really, it's nuts. That's the

2197
01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:56.000
<v Speaker 19>way to do that. Thank you for that. Steve three

2198
01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.600
<v Speaker 19>oh three, seven one, three eight, two five five.

2199
01:48:58.640 --> 01:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I am going to go to Steve maw jay. Keep

2200
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:01.399
<v Speaker 2>holding on.

2201
01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:03.520
<v Speaker 19>By the way, we have two lines open three oh

2202
01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:06.640
<v Speaker 19>three Martino three oh three, seven to one, three eight two,

2203
01:49:06.760 --> 01:49:10.159
<v Speaker 19>five to five, rock and roll beer. What is going

2204
01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:13.199
<v Speaker 19>on this weekend? And for people out there, I want

2205
01:49:13.239 --> 01:49:15.079
<v Speaker 19>to tell you why we have Steve on him promote

2206
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:18.399
<v Speaker 19>his brewery. One, he's a local guy that just opened

2207
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:22.239
<v Speaker 19>a kick ass brewery. Two he actually does our theme song.

2208
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:25.479
<v Speaker 19>When you hear this show start every hour, that is Steve.

2209
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:27.920
<v Speaker 19>He does a guitar, he does the lyrics. That is

2210
01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:30.760
<v Speaker 19>the theme song. He also does theme songs for all

2211
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.159
<v Speaker 19>kinds of businesses like the tree Farm. I think that's

2212
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:37.680
<v Speaker 19>probably his most famous in this area. But we love

2213
01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:40.760
<v Speaker 19>promoting Steve and what he does. And Suzanne and I

2214
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.079
<v Speaker 19>have been out to Rock and Roll Brewery for the

2215
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:45.399
<v Speaker 19>first time a few weeks back, or maybe it's been

2216
01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:46.720
<v Speaker 19>a month it has been.

2217
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:48.479
<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable.

2218
01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:52.119
<v Speaker 19>It is the coolest, quaintest little place you have to

2219
01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:54.960
<v Speaker 19>generally register. And what I mean by that is, unlike

2220
01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:58.359
<v Speaker 19>other breweries, he's only allowed what is it, Steve, twenty

2221
01:49:58.399 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 19>five people on SAD.

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01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:02.680
<v Speaker 2>That's That's what the deal is, right.

2223
01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:07.680
<v Speaker 16>That's twenty five on any given Saturday. From I think

2224
01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:11.760
<v Speaker 16>I'm made through October and then we have one special

2225
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:14.319
<v Speaker 16>event that we can do for seventy five.

2226
01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:16.319
<v Speaker 7>Capacity at one time.

2227
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:18.840
<v Speaker 16>Now that's second and I'm Mark, are you going to

2228
01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:19.319
<v Speaker 16>be there?

2229
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I think I am going to be there.

2230
01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:23.560
<v Speaker 19>I'm still looking at that as of right now, I

2231
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:26.159
<v Speaker 19>can say I'm going to be there. There's something that

2232
01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:28.720
<v Speaker 19>could happen to where I wouldn't be there, but I'd

2233
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:31.840
<v Speaker 19>give it a good eighty ninety percent chance. Suzanne and

2234
01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:34.000
<v Speaker 19>I are going to be at that big deal.

2235
01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:34.239
<v Speaker 8>Man.

2236
01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I love it. In fact, I think is.

2237
01:50:36.159 --> 01:50:38.479
<v Speaker 7>A sign up for that up a little bit about it?

2238
01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, go ahead, man.

2239
01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.800
<v Speaker 16>Okay, Well, first of all, it's called Brewfest twenty twenty five,

2240
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.279
<v Speaker 16>and that's rock and rollbery forty years of brewing bears.

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01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:52.079
<v Speaker 19>Your phone keeps teetering, Steve, your phone keeps teetering in

2242
01:50:52.199 --> 01:50:52.560
<v Speaker 19>and out.

2243
01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:55.159
<v Speaker 16>Man, Okay, let me up better?

2244
01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:58.680
<v Speaker 19>Moving around here, yeah, get get somewhere better. But it's

2245
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:04.640
<v Speaker 19>basically he's been brewing. Go ahead, no hold on, Kelly,

2246
01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:07.920
<v Speaker 19>just I'll go to another call. Get him re lined up.

2247
01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:10.960
<v Speaker 19>It's not worth talking about if we can hear it. Hey, Mason,

2248
01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:12.079
<v Speaker 19>what's going on with you?

2249
01:51:14.439 --> 01:51:14.680
<v Speaker 7>Hey?

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01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:18.720
<v Speaker 22>So we've had an issue recently. I had an employee

2251
01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:21.039
<v Speaker 22>who was working for me as just a team member

2252
01:51:21.039 --> 01:51:24.439
<v Speaker 22>for about a year. I recommended her for a promotion,

2253
01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:28.000
<v Speaker 22>and they made me run a background check, obviously, and

2254
01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:31.159
<v Speaker 22>the background check came back and they made me terminate

2255
01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:34.520
<v Speaker 22>her from even her nonsensitive position. So I was just

2256
01:51:34.640 --> 01:51:37.199
<v Speaker 22>curious if there was something maybe that we can.

2257
01:51:37.039 --> 01:51:37.600
<v Speaker 7>Do for her.

2258
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:40.600
<v Speaker 19>Wow, that's interesting as hell. Let me ask what was

2259
01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:41.800
<v Speaker 19>on the background check.

2260
01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:47.159
<v Speaker 22>So she had quite an extensive record. The biggest one

2261
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:49.680
<v Speaker 22>that the company had an issue with was attempted robbery,

2262
01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:51.399
<v Speaker 22>which obviously makes sense.

2263
01:51:51.560 --> 01:51:53.760
<v Speaker 19>Does she deal with cash? I mean, what does she do?

2264
01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:55.640
<v Speaker 19>You don't have to say what company, but give me

2265
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:57.600
<v Speaker 19>an idea of her job.

2266
01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:02.720
<v Speaker 22>She doesn't. She's been handling cash for me for about

2267
01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:03.039
<v Speaker 22>a year.

2268
01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:04.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when I originally.

2269
01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:06.680
<v Speaker 22>Hired her, we knew that she had a background because

2270
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:07.600
<v Speaker 22>I hired her out of.

2271
01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:10.359
<v Speaker 7>The halfway house and you know.

2272
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:12.279
<v Speaker 22>She got out of the halfway house working with me

2273
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:15.000
<v Speaker 22>in this dismith and it's just been a weird situation.

2274
01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So here's the deal.

2275
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:20.479
<v Speaker 19>Man, Like almost every state where in at will state,

2276
01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:24.439
<v Speaker 19>they can definitely fire you for that anytime they want.

2277
01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.000
<v Speaker 19>How they can fire you at any reason for any time.

2278
01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:29.199
<v Speaker 19>If I were you, what I would do if you

2279
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.199
<v Speaker 19>really do trust her, Because here's the deal. If something

2280
01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:36.239
<v Speaker 19>did happen and you follow my instructions and you end

2281
01:52:36.319 --> 01:52:39.079
<v Speaker 19>up keeping her, and I'm not saying that would happen,

2282
01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:42.279
<v Speaker 19>but it would be a possibility. Just remember, I don't

2283
01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:44.880
<v Speaker 19>know where you are with this company or if you're

2284
01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:46.720
<v Speaker 19>in love with it you want to be there forever.

2285
01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.520
<v Speaker 19>But if something ever did happen and you're putting your

2286
01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:52.039
<v Speaker 19>neck out there, just watch it. I mean, I don't

2287
01:52:52.079 --> 01:52:54.680
<v Speaker 19>know this person from Adam, but you might want to

2288
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:58.000
<v Speaker 19>reach out to HR and talk to HR about it

2289
01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.399
<v Speaker 19>and say, look, I've been her supervisor, her man manager,

2290
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:04.640
<v Speaker 19>whatever that looks like, for over a year. We watch

2291
01:53:04.720 --> 01:53:07.239
<v Speaker 19>her left and right. She's doing great. There's never been

2292
01:53:07.279 --> 01:53:10.479
<v Speaker 19>any issues. She's turned her life around, and you kind

2293
01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:13.399
<v Speaker 19>of seek out the compassion and whoever you need to

2294
01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:16.880
<v Speaker 19>in HR, and that would be one way to handle it.

2295
01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:18.079
<v Speaker 19>But you better watch it.

2296
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:18.359
<v Speaker 7>Man.

2297
01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:20.760
<v Speaker 19>Is this a real big company or are you dealing

2298
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:21.960
<v Speaker 19>with a huge company.

2299
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.000
<v Speaker 22>I mean, it's somewhere in the middle. We did already

2300
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:28.960
<v Speaker 22>reach out to HR and kind of fight that battle already,

2301
01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:32.279
<v Speaker 22>and HR was the one who provided the directive for

2302
01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:34.199
<v Speaker 22>me to terminate her from the system.

2303
01:53:34.399 --> 01:53:37.399
<v Speaker 19>Do you guys have Do you guys have, for example,

2304
01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:40.079
<v Speaker 19>district managers?

2305
01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:42.600
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, absolutely so I.

2306
01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:45.000
<v Speaker 19>Would reach out to the district manager. And a lot

2307
01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.680
<v Speaker 19>of organizations that are say big retail, big restaurant, stuff

2308
01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:53.560
<v Speaker 19>like that, the district manager most likely has the ability

2309
01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:57.399
<v Speaker 19>to overturn HR if they want to. The problem with

2310
01:53:57.479 --> 01:53:59.600
<v Speaker 19>that kind of policy, and let me tell you, I

2311
01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:01.920
<v Speaker 19>think it's a very good policy, to be honest, But

2312
01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:09.520
<v Speaker 19>the reason most of them don't want to is exactly

2313
01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:11.920
<v Speaker 19>what I told you. They're putting their neck on the line.

2314
01:54:12.319 --> 01:54:14.399
<v Speaker 19>So you might talk to your DM.

2315
01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:17.680
<v Speaker 22>Okay, one last thing I'm going to let you go.

2316
01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:20.840
<v Speaker 22>I want to know because we don't have any written

2317
01:54:20.880 --> 01:54:24.359
<v Speaker 22>policy stating that they have to be terminated in the

2318
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:27.439
<v Speaker 22>instance of that, but HR directed that would we have

2319
01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:30.039
<v Speaker 22>some kind of case for a wrongful termination or something

2320
01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:30.239
<v Speaker 22>like that.

2321
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:31.359
<v Speaker 2>No, it's that No.

2322
01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:34.880
<v Speaker 19>No, a wrongful termination, especially in the state of Colorado,

2323
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:37.760
<v Speaker 19>would be firing somebody because they're a woman, or firing

2324
01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:41.800
<v Speaker 19>someone because they're black, or firing someone because they're Jewish.

2325
01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:44.640
<v Speaker 19>I mean, those are things that you simply can't do.

2326
01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:48.239
<v Speaker 19>But you can pretty much fire with the exception of protections,

2327
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:52.119
<v Speaker 19>you can pretty much fire anybody for anything. Now I

2328
01:54:52.199 --> 01:54:55.119
<v Speaker 19>understand the size of the company. I mean, I'm guessing

2329
01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:58.079
<v Speaker 19>it's like, well, I'm not even going to guess, but anyhow,

2330
01:54:58.239 --> 01:54:59.359
<v Speaker 19>what I would say is no.

2331
01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>To answer your question, it's not wrongful termination.

2332
01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:05.760
<v Speaker 19>A background check was pulled, Someone's like, why the hell

2333
01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:07.399
<v Speaker 19>is this person working for us?

2334
01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know it is what it is.

2335
01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:10.079
<v Speaker 8>Man.

2336
01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:12.239
<v Speaker 19>I mean, she should be able to get unemployment and

2337
01:55:12.279 --> 01:55:15.520
<v Speaker 19>find another job, although with their background that's probably not

2338
01:55:15.560 --> 01:55:18.159
<v Speaker 19>going to be super easy. You can also feel free

2339
01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:20.640
<v Speaker 19>because I'm not giving you legal advice I'm giving you

2340
01:55:20.920 --> 01:55:23.840
<v Speaker 19>common sense from doing this for so many years. What

2341
01:55:23.920 --> 01:55:27.439
<v Speaker 19>you should You can reach out and talk to an

2342
01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:29.920
<v Speaker 19>unemployment attorney and most of them are going to tell

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01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:34.000
<v Speaker 19>you pretty straightforward, probably exactly what I am. But from

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01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:37.880
<v Speaker 19>the legal sense, if there's any chance of her going

2345
01:55:37.920 --> 01:55:41.920
<v Speaker 19>after the company, but I just don't see it, man, Okay,

2346
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:44.479
<v Speaker 19>why are you so tied to it? I mean, I'm

2347
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:49.439
<v Speaker 19>just curious, now, why are you so tied after you actually, well,

2348
01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:50.960
<v Speaker 19>I don't know if you are privy to it, but

2349
01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:54.439
<v Speaker 19>anybody can pull a background through Colorado courts. But let's

2350
01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:57.640
<v Speaker 19>say it is really bad, multiple things over lots and

2351
01:55:57.720 --> 01:56:01.600
<v Speaker 19>lots of years, and she may be didn't disclose that stuff.

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01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:04.520
<v Speaker 19>You know, a lot of bigger companies are medium sized

2353
01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:07.800
<v Speaker 19>companies or even small companies. Say hey, have you ever

2354
01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:10.399
<v Speaker 19>been convicted of a crime or have you ever been

2355
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:13.439
<v Speaker 19>accused of a crime? And you got to list everything out,

2356
01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:15.680
<v Speaker 19>and if you list and if you forget to list

2357
01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:18.720
<v Speaker 19>something right, there could be grounds. But once again, that

2358
01:56:18.760 --> 01:56:22.319
<v Speaker 19>doesn't even matter because you can still fire anybody for

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01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:24.239
<v Speaker 19>virtually anything reason.

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01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 19>Man, I'm glad you're trying to stick up for it.

2362
01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:30.680
<v Speaker 19>You just created a relationship with her.

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01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:34.439
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, and that's you know, I've seen her turn her

2364
01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:36.560
<v Speaker 22>life around. Like I said, when when she started, she

2365
01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:40.560
<v Speaker 22>was in the halfway house, and it's just I'm investment

2366
01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:42.239
<v Speaker 22>in it and now trying to find her a job

2367
01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:43.960
<v Speaker 22>and just see if there's anything we can do for you.

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01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:46.079
<v Speaker 19>What I would really do and if you haven't, if

2369
01:56:46.119 --> 01:56:49.479
<v Speaker 19>you haven't done it, I would reach out to whoever

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01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:50.840
<v Speaker 19>the district manager is.

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01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's by email.

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01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:54.560
<v Speaker 19>I don't know what that looks like in your life,

2373
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:57.560
<v Speaker 19>but I would reach out to the district manager.

2374
01:56:58.399 --> 01:56:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:03.399
<v Speaker 19>Once again, just be careful dipping your head into this stuff.

2376
01:57:03.439 --> 01:57:06.920
<v Speaker 19>But I personally appreciate you fighting for it's evident you

2377
01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:09.960
<v Speaker 19>think she's good. All right, kay or I'm sorry, Jay

2378
01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:10.479
<v Speaker 19>and Kevin.

2379
01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:18.239
<v Speaker 2>You guys hold tight the three zero three Martino.

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01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:22.319
<v Speaker 19>Hey, Kelly, tell Jay we're gonna line him up tomorrow

2381
01:57:22.319 --> 01:57:26.479
<v Speaker 19>when Tom's back. And then Tom also knows a mineral

2382
01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:30.279
<v Speaker 19>rights attorney as well. I don't know if he can

2383
01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:33.880
<v Speaker 19>line him up, but let's free that line open. Meantime,

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01:57:34.680 --> 01:57:39.920
<v Speaker 19>Kevin's got a comment on Excel. What's your comment, Kevin Well?

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01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:42.239
<v Speaker 7>The comment isn't so much on Excel. It's on the

2386
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:45.640
<v Speaker 7>troubleshooter team and all the people behind the scenes and

2387
01:57:45.680 --> 01:57:47.159
<v Speaker 7>the Angels that are out there.

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01:57:48.159 --> 01:57:53.039
<v Speaker 19>Oh you mean excel Our connection with Excel Energy, Yes, sir.

2389
01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:55.000
<v Speaker 2>What was the problem? What was the issue?

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01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:58.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, about six months ago I called him because my

2391
01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:01.359
<v Speaker 7>gas meter was built it at like a forty five

2392
01:58:01.399 --> 01:58:05.079
<v Speaker 7>degree angle and I was afraid it was going to

2393
01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:08.199
<v Speaker 7>be leaking or you know, come to something even worse,

2394
01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:11.840
<v Speaker 7>because it just kept sinking and kind of like unscrewing

2395
01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:17.119
<v Speaker 7>itself basically. So anyways, about six I think I remember this.

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01:58:17.239 --> 01:58:22.640
<v Speaker 2>It was literally crooked, like half of it was sinking. Yes, sir, Yeah,

2397
01:58:22.680 --> 01:58:23.439
<v Speaker 2>and you tried.

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01:58:23.239 --> 01:58:25.399
<v Speaker 19>To get you tried to get Excel out there to

2399
01:58:25.439 --> 01:58:28.720
<v Speaker 19>fix it a million and a half times.

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01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:31.399
<v Speaker 7>Well, I would say at two different times. Yes, don't

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01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:33.920
<v Speaker 7>I apologize for the noise it's raining.

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01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:36.600
<v Speaker 19>Like a yeah, no, it looks like it looks like

2403
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:38.840
<v Speaker 19>it sounds like it. So we got involved and we

2404
01:58:38.880 --> 01:58:41.279
<v Speaker 19>reached out. How long did it take for Excel to

2405
01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:42.600
<v Speaker 19>get out there and fix a meter?

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01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:47.119
<v Speaker 7>Well, the last message I got was from Sues yesterday,

2407
01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:51.279
<v Speaker 7>and I got up today and there was an Excel

2408
01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:53.680
<v Speaker 7>Energy guy parked in front of my house.

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01:58:54.680 --> 01:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:56.920
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know he was out there. I was in

2411
01:58:56.920 --> 01:59:00.199
<v Speaker 7>my office working. So then I finally saw him one

2412
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:02.520
<v Speaker 7>of my cameras. So I went and confronted him and said,

2413
01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:04.880
<v Speaker 7>are you here for me? And he goes yes, and

2414
01:59:04.920 --> 01:59:08.840
<v Speaker 7>I go, that's awesome, and he goes he tells me.

2415
01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:10.159
<v Speaker 7>He says, I'm already done.

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01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Awesome and yeah.

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01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:15.439
<v Speaker 7>And the gentleman's name was Josh And basically what he

2418
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:19.199
<v Speaker 7>did was he replaced the entire beater and all the

2419
01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:22.439
<v Speaker 7>piping and everything. I'll send a picture, nice man, I

2420
01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:23.279
<v Speaker 7>get home tonight.

2421
01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:26.239
<v Speaker 2>That check line, we'll chalk that up.

2422
01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:29.279
<v Speaker 19>So up till you we had three hundred and forty

2423
01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:32.680
<v Speaker 19>eight million, six hundred and forty seven thousand, eight hundred

2424
01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:36.199
<v Speaker 19>and twelve dollars and seventeen cents. I'm going to go

2425
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:39.000
<v Speaker 19>ahead and throw on a thousand bucks.

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01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:39.359
<v Speaker 2>How's that.

2427
01:59:40.680 --> 01:59:42.600
<v Speaker 7>I would not disagree with that at all.

2428
01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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01:59:43.159 --> 01:59:45.319
<v Speaker 19>Hey, Kevin, I appreciate the follow up. A lot of

2430
01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:47.600
<v Speaker 19>times we help people out and we never hear back

2431
01:59:47.600 --> 01:59:50.680
<v Speaker 19>from him. One of the biggest ones, and it really

2432
01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:54.920
<v Speaker 19>irritated me. And I always digress, But then I don't digress.

2433
01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:59.079
<v Speaker 19>But this guy bought a mini house one hundred thousand

2434
01:59:59.079 --> 02:00:02.279
<v Speaker 19>bucks the company. He basically dropped it off on a

2435
02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:06.000
<v Speaker 19>dirt road in the middle of nowhere and he had

2436
02:00:06.039 --> 02:00:07.079
<v Speaker 19>no way of moving it.

2437
02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:09.319
<v Speaker 2>And we got him a full refund.

2438
02:00:10.079 --> 02:00:13.119
<v Speaker 19>And that SOB would not come on and talk about

2439
02:00:13.159 --> 02:00:17.960
<v Speaker 19>it because he signed, of course, a uh basically a waiver.

2440
02:00:18.039 --> 02:00:24.279
<v Speaker 19>He signed a unconditional uh go ahead non disclosure. But

2441
02:00:24.399 --> 02:00:26.199
<v Speaker 19>it still pissed me off because we got him one

2442
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:29.039
<v Speaker 19>hundred grand I said, why didn't you call up and

2443
02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:32.199
<v Speaker 19>leave a message before you signed it? Then we could

2444
02:00:32.239 --> 02:00:34.600
<v Speaker 19>have played the message because I'd owned the message. There's

2445
02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:37.359
<v Speaker 19>a million ways we could have worked this output. I

2446
02:00:37.439 --> 02:00:40.159
<v Speaker 19>do appreciate that. Kevin, what's going on with you? Or

2447
02:00:40.199 --> 02:00:43.319
<v Speaker 19>I'm sorry Mary, you're first? What's going on with this car?

2448
02:00:45.239 --> 02:00:45.439
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

2449
02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:49.840
<v Speaker 15>Hi, Yes, it's uh, there's so many things that's been

2450
02:00:49.960 --> 02:00:50.960
<v Speaker 15>hard to even.

2451
02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:53.720
<v Speaker 19>Well, let's start with who. Let's start with the company.

2452
02:00:53.720 --> 02:00:55.920
<v Speaker 19>What what are you having a problem with? A car

2453
02:00:56.039 --> 02:00:58.720
<v Speaker 19>dealership or a car repair shop?

2454
02:01:00.119 --> 02:01:04.560
<v Speaker 15>So, yes, it's a car repair shop in Littleton, Colorado.

2455
02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:04.920
<v Speaker 2>What's the.

2456
02:01:07.640 --> 02:01:08.479
<v Speaker 15>Tailor car care?

2457
02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so when did they work on your car?

2458
02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:15.960
<v Speaker 15>Well, it originally was towed to them in August of

2459
02:01:16.119 --> 02:01:20.520
<v Speaker 15>last year, after installed on the side of the road.

2460
02:01:20.600 --> 02:01:23.279
<v Speaker 15>I'm single mom with four kids, and my job was

2461
02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:26.960
<v Speaker 15>doing Uber deliveries. Just during a delivery.

2462
02:01:26.720 --> 02:01:28.920
<v Speaker 19>So installed on the side of the roads, you bring

2463
02:01:28.960 --> 02:01:31.000
<v Speaker 19>it over to Taylor Car Care and what did they

2464
02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:31.479
<v Speaker 19>sell you?

2465
02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:34.960
<v Speaker 15>Well, first, I had a friend that put in a

2466
02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:37.239
<v Speaker 15>new couple of new sensors, like I can run my

2467
02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:41.399
<v Speaker 15>own scams and somewhat familiar my car and everything. But yeah,

2468
02:01:41.439 --> 02:01:44.760
<v Speaker 15>I had it towed to them, and initially they told

2469
02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:49.479
<v Speaker 15>me that it needed just a timing belt replacement.

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02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:53.000
<v Speaker 19>Well that's weird it needed did it still start up

2471
02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:57.239
<v Speaker 19>and run? What were the symptoms? Again, it wasn't starting, okay,

2472
02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.920
<v Speaker 19>it simply wouldn't start okay. So they got over there,

2473
02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:02.239
<v Speaker 19>said the timing belt broke. So they wanted to sell

2474
02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:02.840
<v Speaker 19>you a kid.

2475
02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:04.680
<v Speaker 15>That's what they said.

2476
02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, did you buy it?

2477
02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:10.600
<v Speaker 15>Well, what ended up happening was he took about another

2478
02:02:10.600 --> 02:02:12.159
<v Speaker 15>week and a half to get back to me and

2479
02:02:12.199 --> 02:02:16.319
<v Speaker 15>tell me that it actually needed an entirely new engine

2480
02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:19.399
<v Speaker 15>and all of the wiring redion.

2481
02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:23.359
<v Speaker 19>Okay, so I don't know what that means. The wiring,

2482
02:02:23.399 --> 02:02:24.119
<v Speaker 19>what does that mean?

2483
02:02:25.079 --> 02:02:29.239
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, it had some aftermarket wiring from previou gonor like

2484
02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:31.920
<v Speaker 15>just for they were going to put in a whole

2485
02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:32.640
<v Speaker 15>new wiring.

2486
02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:35.520
<v Speaker 19>Let me say something real quick here, Mary. So number one,

2487
02:02:35.880 --> 02:02:39.319
<v Speaker 19>if the timing belt breaks on that, that's an interference engine.

2488
02:02:39.399 --> 02:02:42.840
<v Speaker 19>So if unless if it breaks it like the perfect

2489
02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:46.319
<v Speaker 19>time ever, you are going to end up needing an

2490
02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:49.840
<v Speaker 19>upper half of that engine. So let's just talk about that,

2491
02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:52.479
<v Speaker 19>not the rewiring. Did you buy an engine?

2492
02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:57.560
<v Speaker 15>I did, okay, because I had lost my job, you know,

2493
02:02:58.199 --> 02:03:00.880
<v Speaker 15>because I was doing Uber deliveries. It took me four

2494
02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:04.359
<v Speaker 15>months too. I had a I did like a gofund

2495
02:03:04.399 --> 02:03:06.359
<v Speaker 15>me and I had So.

2496
02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:07.279
<v Speaker 2>What happened from there?

2497
02:03:07.319 --> 02:03:07.520
<v Speaker 5>Though?

2498
02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:10.760
<v Speaker 2>They installed the engine and then what Yeah?

2499
02:03:10.840 --> 02:03:13.960
<v Speaker 15>So I finally got it back in late December, and

2500
02:03:14.800 --> 02:03:17.000
<v Speaker 15>it was when I got in and started driving, it

2501
02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:22.119
<v Speaker 15>was still saying that the oil pressure was low. They

2502
02:03:22.119 --> 02:03:24.000
<v Speaker 15>told me, just disregard that.

2503
02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:28.600
<v Speaker 2>You're saying that's part of the wiring issue.

2504
02:03:29.239 --> 02:03:32.600
<v Speaker 15>They weren't really giving me any answers. Communication was one

2505
02:03:32.600 --> 02:03:34.119
<v Speaker 15>of the biggest problems I had with them.

2506
02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:36.840
<v Speaker 19>Okay, so where does it stand now? Does the cars

2507
02:03:36.880 --> 02:03:39.319
<v Speaker 19>still drive but the oil pressure light's coming on?

2508
02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:40.399
<v Speaker 11>No?

2509
02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:44.159
<v Speaker 15>It started having so many problems immediately like that was

2510
02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:46.039
<v Speaker 15>my initial problem.

2511
02:03:46.159 --> 02:03:46.279
<v Speaker 7>Right.

2512
02:03:46.319 --> 02:03:48.319
<v Speaker 15>I reached out to them because that was happening, and

2513
02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:50.039
<v Speaker 15>his response.

2514
02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:52.600
<v Speaker 7>Was it runs and drives right and one.

2515
02:03:53.119 --> 02:03:56.399
<v Speaker 15>Like different employees were giving me different information. Some of

2516
02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:59.039
<v Speaker 15>them would say, don't tell the owner.

2517
02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:01.399
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, but I'm trying to get to where we're at

2518
02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:03.600
<v Speaker 19>right now. So where are we at right now? What

2519
02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:05.239
<v Speaker 19>are they saying is wrong with it?

2520
02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:09.720
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, it's been kind of a long journey, because.

2521
02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:12.159
<v Speaker 19>I get that this is this is a long journey too,

2522
02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:16.199
<v Speaker 19>So what's going on? Like, no, you don't have to apologize.

2523
02:04:16.239 --> 02:04:18.800
<v Speaker 19>I get it, you're very frustrated. I understand where you're

2524
02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:21.119
<v Speaker 19>coming from. But what I want to know is, right

2525
02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:24.359
<v Speaker 19>now are they refusing to fix something? Are they saying

2526
02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:26.359
<v Speaker 19>it has nothing to do with the engine? What are

2527
02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:26.880
<v Speaker 19>they saying?

2528
02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:31.319
<v Speaker 15>Well, I finally was able to afford a diagnostic at

2529
02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:33.359
<v Speaker 15>Audia of Denver, and I want to give them a

2530
02:04:33.399 --> 02:04:36.039
<v Speaker 15>shout out because they've been like super amazing. And what

2531
02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:40.199
<v Speaker 15>did they say, Oh, well, there's a bunch of broken

2532
02:04:40.239 --> 02:04:44.560
<v Speaker 15>parts on this alleged replacement engine.

2533
02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Like what give me a big one he's got?

2534
02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:51.159
<v Speaker 15>Well, he's email me, emailing me like a full list,

2535
02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:51.840
<v Speaker 15>But did he.

2536
02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Email it yet? And Drive did he email it yet?

2537
02:04:55.800 --> 02:04:57.640
<v Speaker 10>I could look Let's see this.

2538
02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:00.760
<v Speaker 19>Hold on, Hold on, hold on, Kelly, I want that email.

2539
02:05:00.840 --> 02:05:04.119
<v Speaker 19>I want to see what the dealership said was wrong

2540
02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:04.439
<v Speaker 19>with that.

2541
02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Mary.

2542
02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:07.319
<v Speaker 19>I want a little more time to deal with it.

2543
02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:10.079
<v Speaker 19>Plus I want to see and I'm glad you brought

2544
02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:14.119
<v Speaker 19>it somewhere else to get an opinion of what's actually

2545
02:05:14.199 --> 02:05:14.760
<v Speaker 19>going on.

2546
02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I look forward to getting that email today. Kelly.

2547
02:05:18.119 --> 02:05:19.880
<v Speaker 19>Make sure I get a copy of that, and I'll

2548
02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:22.560
<v Speaker 19>look at it when I'm home tonight, and then let's

2549
02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:30.159
<v Speaker 19>get Mary right back on tomorrow. Everybody, hold tight. Don't

2550
02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:32.800
<v Speaker 19>forget three ho three Martino. That number works on and

2551
02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:36.680
<v Speaker 19>off the air. Steve Moss Rock and Roll Brewery. We

2552
02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:38.600
<v Speaker 19>got a huge weekend coming up.

2553
02:05:38.640 --> 02:05:38.840
<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 19>Once a year they let you have a big shin

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<v Speaker 19>dig out at the brewery. What day is it this year?

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<v Speaker 4>This year?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it was our first year. Is August second, that's

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<v Speaker 7>a Saturday. It'll be two o'clock to ten at night.

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<v Speaker 8>Nice.

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<v Speaker 7>You know if you book an advance at all, If

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<v Speaker 7>you book an advance, you're going to get a seven

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<v Speaker 7>piece Famous Days brisket meal. I mean it has a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of stuff. Uh. If you come to data event,

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<v Speaker 7>you know you won't get that.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, you gotter look online, look.

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<v Speaker 7>At online at rock and Roll dot Beer. That's rock

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<v Speaker 7>and Roll dot Beer with a letter N or A

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<v Speaker 7>and and you you'll see the event's shirts. There's two

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<v Speaker 7>different styles to choose from, and you can buy one

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<v Speaker 7>if you like them. Both ante get you get together.

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<v Speaker 19>One you get to catered meal. You get to pick

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<v Speaker 19>from a shirt. And I've seen your shirts. We're not

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<v Speaker 19>talking a cheap eight dollars T shirt. These are nice

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<v Speaker 19>freaking shirts. And you can see an example of them

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<v Speaker 19>or what they're going to look like at rock and

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<v Speaker 19>Roll Dot Beer. But you're also going to have live music.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, Yeah, you have a kind of a small thing.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want to get too loud. But guess what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna do, especially if you come. I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 7>one of my Marshall stacks. You know I used to tour

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<v Speaker 7>and big coliseums. You're not gonna hear hairband days. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna take those big Marshall stacks. I'm gonna bring them

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<v Speaker 7>out by the brewery, by the Harley. You saw the

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<v Speaker 7>Harley there. I'm gonna crank with the entertainment that I've hired.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna crank with them and do some blues and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do the tree Farm jingle, though.

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<v Speaker 7>I will do the tree Farm as a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 7>We're gonna do contests giving things away from people singing.

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<v Speaker 7>And we're gonna do air guitar contest and give a

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<v Speaker 7>free guitar away. That's the ground price. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wait, what do you mean like a guitar or

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<v Speaker 2>a blow up guitar.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, we're giving up a guitar like a strata cancer.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, oh me, I'm not cheap.

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<v Speaker 19>And then you said, also you were thinking to do

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<v Speaker 19>in another tournament with the what do you call that

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<v Speaker 19>where you throw the things in the hole.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's gonna be off the four Cornhead brew Fast Tournament.

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<v Speaker 8>If you do.

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<v Speaker 7>I did all this stuff online and it's good.

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<v Speaker 19>My god, Steve your once again you're cutting in and out.

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<v Speaker 19>I'm gonna finish up for you. Here's the deal, and

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<v Speaker 19>we're going to be talking more about it. But if

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<v Speaker 19>you go to Rockinroll Dot Beer, Suzanne and I most

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<v Speaker 19>likely are gonna be out there, but there's only seventy

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<v Speaker 19>five people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 19>He's got seventeen different kinds of beer and this thing

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<v Speaker 19>is going to include lunch or dinner, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 19>to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>Follow Tom Martino at Real Tom Martino and.

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