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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a string going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed

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<v Speaker 2>your dog, my dog. We're flying through there over the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, and name was dead once you hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my

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<v Speaker 2>dog coming over the fence. Mad, What are you reporting?

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<v Speaker 2>We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see what it was? It enough here when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm new the window now and I don't need anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. Fine, you're right, Cara. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the boddy out here. What quent on out there?

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<v Speaker 2>I've thought of a bit of about text nine. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know easy, I'm out there. Yeah, I'm walking right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, welcome our guest to the show. It is Steve

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<v Speaker 1>from British Columbia. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me, Brian, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad to have you. So let's get right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about this big fit thing. What gut you

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the subject?

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<v Speaker 3>To begin with. I guess for myself. Growing up, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>seen the Patterson Gillman from Everybody Has. I'd seen it

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<v Speaker 3>on TV at home and my dad saying, well, that's

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<v Speaker 3>just some buffoon in a gorilla suit. And I'd heard

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<v Speaker 3>the Sierra Sounds. That was also some sula. What's making noise? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the reality of that. I grew up. We

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<v Speaker 3>hunted a lot fish. I'd had some things happen over

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<v Speaker 3>the years, which I'll go into later. When it really

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<v Speaker 3>started interesting me, it was in twenty eighteen, started working

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<v Speaker 3>up in Lake Louise Nearbath. I think you were up

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<v Speaker 3>there Radium, which is close. I've worked there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back the following year in twenty nineteen. It

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<v Speaker 3>was January. It's minus thirty celsius, right, I'm working up there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was listening to the local radio station. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the CBC. I think I had somebody on telling

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<v Speaker 3>some accounts. It's interesting. I was listening to it. Then

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<v Speaker 3>they mentioned Laura Krantz had a podcast called wild Thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never even actually heard any podcast, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what they were. I was the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel. I found Spotify subscribe to that I found

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<v Speaker 3>that podcast started listening to it. I'd burned through that

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<v Speaker 3>and I got to a point and then they referenced

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<v Speaker 3>West Kermer's show, The Sasquad Chronicles. I slipped over to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it was referencing an episode. I can't for the

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<v Speaker 3>life and may remember what it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>right around forty something. Maybe it was more. That was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight nineteen. I was listening to this, I'm working away,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm by myself, way in the middle of nowhere, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I start hearing them talking about some of these

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<v Speaker 3>things that are similar to what happened. I just stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>I was what, wait, huh tree knocks? Never heard of

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<v Speaker 3>a tree k nock? Never heard of whistling, other odd things.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the hair on the back of my next stand.

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<v Speaker 3>And because I'm reliving this thing, that really it stopped

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<v Speaker 3>me from hunting because nothing made any sense. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'll start there. I think it was probably about

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten eleven, I'm not quite sure. First week of

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<v Speaker 3>October I hunted with my dad in an area out

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<v Speaker 3>of Cash Creek had quite a little ways off the highway. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're remote, there's no cell service or anything up there.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time. I didn't even have a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm off the grid myself. So we pulled up there

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<v Speaker 3>the first evening. We had our little let thirteen foot

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<v Speaker 3>trillium trailer, got way up top there, back in this

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<v Speaker 3>little deactivated road, and we were gonna go out quickly

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<v Speaker 3>for the evening, look around, and the next day go

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<v Speaker 3>for our real hunts. So we get up there, pull

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<v Speaker 3>the trailer. It's probably around I don't know, two thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three o'clock something that it gets dark really early. So

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<v Speaker 3>my dad's going to add a way up the hill

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<v Speaker 3>across the road to do a big luke, come back around.

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<v Speaker 3>We will meet back at the trailer at dark. I

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<v Speaker 3>take off. He told me where to go. He told

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<v Speaker 3>me just head up that road that we were on,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's deactivated. Walk up there about it's not even

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<v Speaker 3>that far a quarter mile maybe a little better than.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's a landing. He explained the lay of the

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<v Speaker 3>land to me. Just go down there, plunk yourself up, down,

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<v Speaker 3>break down. Some branches make a little ground blind. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a water source just over the crest, he explained. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a finger ridge that's just in the thick timber. It's

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<v Speaker 3>only in maybe seventy yards in the woods. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>the deer will come along there, get down to get water.

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<v Speaker 3>That time of year there's not a lot of water.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got in there, snapping branches right, getting myself

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<v Speaker 3>pucked in there, take my bag off, set it up

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<v Speaker 3>so I can shoot off that. I was just sitting back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a little early yet I was set up,

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<v Speaker 3>probably an hour before the deer might start moving. I

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<v Speaker 3>could hear this noise, and usually I'll hear a noise

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<v Speaker 3>on everything. Something right in turn. Note I did know

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<v Speaker 3>what it was. It sand hill cranes. They sound odd

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<v Speaker 3>when they're way off in the distance. I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>for and I saw him. That's cool. I'm listening to

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<v Speaker 3>those unwinding Then I'm hearing another noise. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that bothers me is how long it took until

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<v Speaker 3>my brain registered there was something wrong. It starts out

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<v Speaker 3>as this clicking noise. Now I've heard ravens. It's almost

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<v Speaker 3>start communicating back forth with these clicks, the clucks and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was listening to this for fifteen minutes. It

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<v Speaker 3>dawned on me that if there's a raven around, there's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a carcass around because there's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be one raven around, there's gonna be several. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen a raven. I start looking around. That's weird. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it clicks on my head and that's not a raven.

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<v Speaker 3>It's soundly when somebody makes a noise with their mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>like pressing their tongue, but it's really loud. Because I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was birds, right, it sounded something was going

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth. I'm sitting there like, wait, what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell is this? Then I hear a whistle. I think

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<v Speaker 3>to myself, maybe my dad's gone way around to come

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<v Speaker 3>back down. I thought he'd scare them up to me,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's gonna whistle let me know he's there, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not pointing my gun down the hill. I stand up,

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<v Speaker 3>I whistle. Then immediately something just starts smashing a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of branches, breaking shit. I can't see anything in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe some hunters came in because nobody could come

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<v Speaker 3>up the side we came. They would have had to

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<v Speaker 3>come in off of the other highway. It's a hell

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<v Speaker 3>of a long drive in there. That doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody would have walked in four or five miles to

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<v Speaker 3>come to talk with me. Right to stand up. I whistle.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I yelled dad. As soon as I yelled that,

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<v Speaker 3>something just busts off to my right. I froze there

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute. I had my rifle up, my feet

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of screwy. I was not standing in a

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<v Speaker 3>way to swing my rifle. I'm looking. I'm not comprehending

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<v Speaker 3>the speed. It literally sounds twenty feet clean footballs, is

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm thinking. At that point, I'm something at right here. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I start shuffling my feet. I'm turning that way, and

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<v Speaker 3>I hear something on the other side from where I

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<v Speaker 3>said I'd heard stuff breaking down there. Now something's going

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<v Speaker 3>the other direction. So I turn. I start looking back

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<v Speaker 3>because that's closer to me. At that point, I'm something

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<v Speaker 3>ain't right here. Now I've turned that way. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>good side for my gun. And so I've got my

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<v Speaker 3>gun there. I'll shooting the three hundred wind meg with

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred grain nouz or partitions. There's nothing up here

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<v Speaker 3>that I can't shoot. I'm looking that way, and then

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<v Speaker 3>from the side the first thing went. I hear this noise.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how the damn baseball bat wood on woodker wrap.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm back looking that way again. As soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I look that way, I turn around because I hear

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<v Speaker 3>whatever was on the other side is started to move again.

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<v Speaker 3>Both are running to where I came in. Where I

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<v Speaker 3>came in was a high bank, both sides a little

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<v Speaker 3>skid trail. By this time, I'm going to guess on

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<v Speaker 3>the top maybe four thirty something of that, sun's starting

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<v Speaker 3>to go down. Out in the landing where I am,

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<v Speaker 3>it's wide open. I don't know why, I just I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to run. So I started running. Picked up my

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<v Speaker 3>bag first, I swung it over one shoulder. I started running.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I didn't mention is when I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the trees, it was replanted. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>guess around sixteen to eighteen feet high pine, pretty tight together.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see something moving through there, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>see it. I could see something, but I couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was tracing the noise, right, I was tracing, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see you, but I can see the limbs moving.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when I started running. In my head, don't

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<v Speaker 3>run you look pray. The other part of me is screaming,

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<v Speaker 3>who cares? So I start running that first thing again.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying thing because I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Has busted down, hit the far corner of that slack.

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<v Speaker 3>It's rounding coming around back up. It's a long ways.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how anything moved that fast. I can

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<v Speaker 3>hear it coming up the bush that's about two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy five yards away. I'm going, I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>put my gun up. There's the big fir trees. I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought I'm gonna shoot around at that tree. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just picturing shittle flyery where right everything will run away,

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<v Speaker 3>it will be quiet. As soon as I put my

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<v Speaker 3>through my mind that said, put that gun down right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I went through this big struggle where I was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to throw my gun on the ground, but I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't letting go of it. I had no clue what

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<v Speaker 3>was going on. At this point, I'm so beyond freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in full blown fight or play. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>experienced that in my life. Before I start running through

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<v Speaker 3>the road, there's something on either side. I know it's there.

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear it. It's I run, I stop, stops

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<v Speaker 3>both sides. I was point the gun one way as

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<v Speaker 3>you're walking, look the other. But the problem is my

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<v Speaker 3>see it. I keep going and then I can hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>and it literally sounded at this point I was being

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<v Speaker 3>that's what it seemed like. Something was just breaking it smaller, smaller.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm swearing into the woods. My voice is cracking.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just leave me out.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think it's people at this point, right. But

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<v Speaker 3>I get out and I see the trailer. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>is dark in there? There's a sun setting. I can

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<v Speaker 3>see the trailer. So I start running again. I got

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<v Speaker 3>to the truck, the truck's log. There's key under the

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<v Speaker 3>a little lighter there both sides of me. Still, it

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<v Speaker 3>just sounds something to stop, and I'm being toyed with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cracked on both sides. I'm looking around. My Dad's

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and sixty degrees around me. Son's going down

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<v Speaker 3>and they're starting to get shadow everywhere. Then I hear

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<v Speaker 3>a whistle. That's my dad. He's seen me. He walks

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<v Speaker 3>down the hill. I get there. I'm huffing, huffing. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember exactly what he said to me because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>turned off at this point. I'm just oh, there's something

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<v Speaker 3>in the bush following me out of there, and he

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<v Speaker 3>looks at me, I'm an idiot, starts ejecting the shells

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<v Speaker 3>out of my gun. I'm sitting. It goes you're gunloaded.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, unload that, you knowing thing. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go have something to eat. No, I'm serious. He stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>He listens, He here kat. He goes on, it'll just

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<v Speaker 3>be a couple of moose. I'm a moose. Oh moose, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and then no, I was followed both sides. He's oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll do that, and no, they won't. Anyways, we get

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<v Speaker 3>back to this trailer. We don't have flashlights, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>how my dad is. He doesn't take a compass, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>The one time we were going to go get a

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<v Speaker 3>search party for him, he ended up shooting two gears

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<v Speaker 3>goutted him out. He's it was going to be too dark,

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<v Speaker 3>so he just walked straight up over the mountain to us.

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<v Speaker 3>He got back at nine o'clock at night, pitch block.

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<v Speaker 3>He don't care. So we get back to the trailers,

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<v Speaker 3>start cooking dinner. I'm clearly shaking. I've got my rifle

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<v Speaker 3>in there. You've ever been in one of them trailers,

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<v Speaker 3>There's not much room, especially when you have the bed

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<v Speaker 3>set down. As my dad will say, your part, it's crowded.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're making some dinner. He's what are you planning

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<v Speaker 3>on keeping that gun in here with you? I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I am. Shakes his head. He says to me, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think the Sam Squatch is going to get?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at him, I said, yeah I do. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you've ever seen Trailer Park Boys. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a Canadian show, but they had the Sam Squatch, but

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<v Speaker 3>it turned out to be a mountain lion. It was

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<v Speaker 3>eating their weed that they're growing, so we end up

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<v Speaker 3>eating dinner. I'm just done. My eyes want to close.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so tired. The only light we have in there

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<v Speaker 3>is a crappy little incandescent camper balls two of them.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad's the kind of guy he says, when it's dark,

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<v Speaker 3>it's time for bed, So that would have been about

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<v Speaker 3>seven forty five lights out. I sleep with earplugs I

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<v Speaker 3>always have, and I put earplugs in. I had that

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<v Speaker 3>and your wind mag land next to me, a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of shells on the little counter up next to me.

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<v Speaker 3>The bolt open. I just fell right asleep. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 3>on time again. I didn't have a cell phone, we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a clock. I don't know what time it was,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm going to see it was probably eleven, maybe twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>I said. When my eyes closed, I passed right out.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally I take forever to fall asleep, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>I just had such an adrenaline dump that I was

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<v Speaker 3>just done. I wake up. I pull out an earclub.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a little coat rack here. Everything's shaken, and then

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<v Speaker 3>my dad's kind of grumbling and growing in and he's

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<v Speaker 3>got nothing I said, what the hell are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, huh, and what are you doing? He looks

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<v Speaker 3>at me and he goes, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he gets up. He sits up on his

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<v Speaker 3>bed and I'm trying to talk to him. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>say nothing. He goes to open the door. He's just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there. What are you doing? He's like, huh, just

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<v Speaker 3>nothing makes any sense. He opens the door and pokes

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<v Speaker 3>an eye out there. He's looking. I said, what are

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<v Speaker 3>you doing? He goes, I'm going to see if the

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<v Speaker 3>moon is out? And what the moon? That don't make

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<v Speaker 3>any sense to me. He takes a week, opens the door.

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<v Speaker 3>He's peering around. He goes back, and I fell right

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<v Speaker 3>asleep again. Wooll cup. I don't know what time it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just going to get light. He's sitting on

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<v Speaker 3>the edge of the bed with his boots on. I

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<v Speaker 3>wake up, you know, says, Oh there you are. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>so what do you figure I didn't see any trucks

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<v Speaker 3>up there yesterday. Do you figure we should head on

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else? He says, I know you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be here all I said, yeah, I want to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>So he says okay, we'll leave. I get out. He

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<v Speaker 3>fires up the truck. He's hooking up the trailer again,

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<v Speaker 3>just dropping the tongue down right, figure on my rifle.

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<v Speaker 3>I get out. I turned around, close the door, and

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<v Speaker 3>I look at the side train and said, what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell is that? He says, what? Then point right where

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<v Speaker 3>my seat are. There's no window now right. I looked

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<v Speaker 3>at it. I said, that was a goddamn hand. It

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<v Speaker 3>was in several spots in your hand. You've got all

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<v Speaker 3>your little and you know you call him. I know

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard the word dermal ridge, but all the creases everything,

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<v Speaker 3>he can see it on there. But you can also

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<v Speaker 3>see down. You can see where I would say it

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<v Speaker 3>was hair touching.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquat chattasy. We'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is like a frigging canoe cattle man in

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<v Speaker 3>four spots you can see looking back now, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>something was going back because you could see where it

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<v Speaker 3>look a palm had had slid. The reason I know

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<v Speaker 3>that this isn't something that was on the trailers because

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<v Speaker 3>that trailer was parked at my house under a larch tree.

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<v Speaker 3>We drug it four hundred kilometers. One hundred of it

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<v Speaker 3>was gravel road, which is dusty. It's covered in dust

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<v Speaker 3>when you get there. This was due so it's fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's fresh. You could see where the dew had run.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish if I had annoying anything, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>taken pictures of that, maybe started looking at the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that first thing there. Ended up. We went

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<v Speaker 3>to another valley over. I felt safe, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>the crow flies. He's like, that's range over there. You

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<v Speaker 3>named that barbelly. It was probably only a mile a

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<v Speaker 3>half as a pro flies to the next road over.

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<v Speaker 3>It's knowing what I know now, it's twenty minutes it's there.

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up. I got a deer the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went home, and my dad stayed there himself

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't he ended up getting deer.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though I'd gone, I got that deer the next day.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even want to go again. For a few years,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what it was. I had no clue.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is I was scared. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was about three years later. Again, apologize because

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<v Speaker 3>you're going back so many years now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what year it was, but my dad went up right

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<v Speaker 3>near where we were, the first time he's up there,

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<v Speaker 3>his first day. He goes out, there's a buck there,

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<v Speaker 3>he said it. He got up on it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>about seventy yards away. He figures there was a big

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<v Speaker 3>brush file there that they burned them in the ball

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<v Speaker 3>of the late ball up there. So he just took

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<v Speaker 3>a few steps over to it and used it as

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<v Speaker 3>a rest because he was going to just go for

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<v Speaker 3>a behind the shoulder shot. He thought, like seventy yards

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<v Speaker 3>all had shoot it, but he wanted a rest. So

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<v Speaker 3>he puts his rifle up, clicks the safety off, pulls

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<v Speaker 3>the chegger. It does the typical the legs go out.

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<v Speaker 3>It just goes into a heap on the ground. He

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<v Speaker 3>turned around, cut his tag because he got it, he

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<v Speaker 3>decided because I think he said it was a nine

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<v Speaker 3>am or nine thirty something of that. So rather than

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<v Speaker 3>getting into it, because he a lot of times skin him,

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<v Speaker 3>break him down, hack them out right there, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have your little lunch before you get all covered

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<v Speaker 3>in blood guts. He does that. He goes over to

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<v Speaker 3>get his ear. He goes it's gone. He looked around,

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<v Speaker 3>it was gone. He was telling me about this after

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, yeah, it must have got up run away.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I spine shot it. He could tell at

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<v Speaker 3>seventy yards, and he's our good shot at seventy yards

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<v Speaker 3>with those handloads. He knows right where the bullet went,

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<v Speaker 3>the way it piled up on the ground. That he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't stay there locked to confirm it was dead. But

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<v Speaker 3>he looked at it long enough to cut his tag,

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<v Speaker 3>make the decision, and I'm going to cut my tag.

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<v Speaker 3>Then turns his back, has his lunch for fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not there. So he said he must have missed

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<v Speaker 3>it ran away. He looked for four hours that day,

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<v Speaker 3>went back, was perplexed. Then he went the next morning.

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<v Speaker 3>He waited because he'd already cut his tag. He can't

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<v Speaker 3>shoot another bear, so he said he would just wait

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<v Speaker 3>a little later in the day because he figured it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be around there somewhere. He'll just look for the ravens. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he came home, went back the week. Labor never

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<v Speaker 3>saw it, so I don't know what that means. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you fast forward two years from that, we go up

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<v Speaker 3>that same area, so you're about four or five years

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<v Speaker 3>after that first thing. So now I'm almost willing to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the woods again. We get up pull the

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<v Speaker 3>trailer in this area. I'd been up in there before.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew the lay of the land. They'd logged a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of it. So I did his big loop around

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<v Speaker 3>and I got up to the top of this timber.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a ways down through their good spot. I just

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<v Speaker 3>started getting into the bush because I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>work my way down there. They got in there. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I started going back out. I was, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>And I walked back in there. What the hell's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't go into the bush. This don't make sense,

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<v Speaker 3>this whole subject. I've got a bit of a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with some of it because I hear people and they

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Lou. I'm you're an idiot. Then with things

412
00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:19.519
<v Speaker 3>happened to you, You're like, I get into the bush

413
00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:22.960
<v Speaker 3>about thirty yards. If you've ever been in many logging

414
00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.559
<v Speaker 3>slashes in BC, sometimes they're really thick on the edge.

415
00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You'll get those blowdowns whatnot. It's paying the ass to

416
00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.319
<v Speaker 3>get in there. I get into there, it opens up.

417
00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:33.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the sort of the flat part on the

418
00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:38.039
<v Speaker 3>top there. I walk in about I said, I probably

419
00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.480
<v Speaker 3>got in about thirty five yards at that time. I stopped.

420
00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking around. I got really uneasy. I'm looking right

421
00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:49.240
<v Speaker 3>and then I get a picture in my mind, but

422
00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it's on top of my vision. And I started having

423
00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.759
<v Speaker 3>a panic attack because I'm what the fuck's going on here?

424
00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing something that now I would say, geez, I

425
00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.839
<v Speaker 3>guess that's a sasquatch. Heard of any such thing. It's

426
00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.720
<v Speaker 3>there and what's going on? So now my rifles off

427
00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.079
<v Speaker 3>my shoulder, it's in my hand. I'm slowly I'm turning

428
00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.000
<v Speaker 3>in a circle and no shit all over again. And

429
00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:10.880
<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden, I just start going. I

430
00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.519
<v Speaker 3>was going to go to my left. I knew where

431
00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:14.200
<v Speaker 3>I was going to go. I started going to my right,

432
00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.519
<v Speaker 3>and I started going down a gully. There's all these

433
00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:19.240
<v Speaker 3>ground vines, prickles I'm going through. I'm going Where the

434
00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:21.319
<v Speaker 3>hell are you going? I'm talking outloud to myself and

435
00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.400
<v Speaker 3>what the hell are you doing? I'm going over things,

436
00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm going under. It makes no sense to me. I

437
00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.440
<v Speaker 3>set out loud of min this is how people get

438
00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.039
<v Speaker 3>and lost. What are you doing? At this point, I'm

439
00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:32.640
<v Speaker 3>probably only two hundred yards from that logging slash or

440
00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm drawing to go that way I'm going down. I'm

441
00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.039
<v Speaker 3>going under shit now, my boot is wet, I've got

442
00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:40.200
<v Speaker 3>mud on my knees. I could have just walking down.

443
00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.240
<v Speaker 3>There's no need for any of this to happen. I

444
00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't have to crawl over or under anything, but I did.

445
00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.519
<v Speaker 3>Then I feel okay, But I'm still going this way.

446
00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm almost laughing. What the hell are you doing? I

447
00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.880
<v Speaker 3>get down. By this time, I've probably only gone i'd

448
00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.839
<v Speaker 3>venture to say about five to six hundred yards, maybe

449
00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe not even that far. Honestly, it might only be

450
00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:05.240
<v Speaker 3>four hundred. That's a long ways in the bush. I

451
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:09.039
<v Speaker 3>start getting the spidy senses going off that there's something here.

452
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I look down the hill. I see movement about seventy

453
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:16.319
<v Speaker 3>yards away. I go no way, big set of antlers.

454
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Pull my gun off my shoulder. I put it up.

455
00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:20.759
<v Speaker 3>I go one, two, three, four. It was those four

456
00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.039
<v Speaker 3>point or better season. I could clearly see this thing

457
00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.720
<v Speaker 3>pull the trigger, dumps on the ground. Three other monster

458
00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:29.559
<v Speaker 3>bucks run away. Normally finding those four points in those

459
00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.720
<v Speaker 3>special seasons, you don't just walk into them. I scoozed

460
00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:36.160
<v Speaker 3>down the hill. I know I made a good shot.

461
00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I got down there. It was done. I pulled out

462
00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:42.000
<v Speaker 3>my wallet at my dear tag. I was gonna just

463
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.240
<v Speaker 3>got it and then head back get my dad. We

464
00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.519
<v Speaker 3>would probably have to skin it here, break it down,

465
00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.240
<v Speaker 3>carry it out. Anyways, I'm gotting it. As soon as

466
00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I kneel down, a feeling of somebody's looking at you.

467
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.400
<v Speaker 3>This is the weirdest thing ever. I keep looking around it.

468
00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.799
<v Speaker 3>So one thing I do know is predators will give

469
00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:02.000
<v Speaker 3>you a feeling. But I used to archery hunt a

470
00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 3>lot too. You'll be walking through the bush all of

471
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.160
<v Speaker 3>a sudden there'll be a buck standing there eighteen yards

472
00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.319
<v Speaker 3>away from you. You go, oh crap, you had no

473
00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:09.839
<v Speaker 3>clue it was there, and then as soon as you

474
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.880
<v Speaker 3>see it, it's I'm out of here. It takes off.

475
00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:15.519
<v Speaker 3>But I'm looking around. There's got to be wolves here

476
00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 3>or something, because I'd had that same feeling a year

477
00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:23.200
<v Speaker 3>before in a completely different area. Sorry, I'm but this

478
00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.519
<v Speaker 3>is the predator thing. Because I was walking in this

479
00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:31.640
<v Speaker 3>really thick old grove on the mossy rocks. There was

480
00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.519
<v Speaker 3>wind blowing. It's very quiet and there's no noise. If

481
00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.279
<v Speaker 3>something's watching me. Start looking around. My gun still on

482
00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.079
<v Speaker 3>my shoulder. I turned my head and I think right away.

483
00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:44.319
<v Speaker 3>German shepherd head down, tail tuck gets arcing towards me.

484
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.640
<v Speaker 3>When I was eight, I got to talk by German shepherd.

485
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.000
<v Speaker 3>It hamstring me. It looked exactly the same. But again

486
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 3>I was on my off side to shoot, so I

487
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.640
<v Speaker 3>stepped back, spy my gop, my shoulder, spun the other way,

488
00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:58.440
<v Speaker 3>put it up. I just shot. That was a wolf.

489
00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:01.319
<v Speaker 3>It was about eighteen feet for me when it piled

490
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.000
<v Speaker 3>up there. I made a bad shot because you looked

491
00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 3>through a four four scope that close. I ended up

492
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:08.920
<v Speaker 3>taking three rounds, but I only had seven with me.

493
00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.160
<v Speaker 3>As soon as I pulled the trigger, the woods are up.

494
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.519
<v Speaker 3>There's wolves everywhere now, Oh crap. I got four bullets left,

495
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 3>but they all ran off anyways. Just to bring a

496
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.200
<v Speaker 3>point to I thought it would maybe be a wolf

497
00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 3>because it was that feeling right. So the pull the

498
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 3>guts out of it. Dragged the deer up out of

499
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 3>the gut pile, obviously six feet away type thing. I

500
00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.079
<v Speaker 3>took the heart, carried that in my hand. I put

501
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.480
<v Speaker 3>the liver on top of a little stump that was there,

502
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 3>just so it wasn't in the leaves. I walked back

503
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>out to the trailer. It was probably three hundred yards.

504
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe did the trailer, I guess. By the time I

505
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.359
<v Speaker 3>got back there, I stood around and waited. My dad

506
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.079
<v Speaker 3>came back. He's all right on, you got one. He said,

507
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 3>what'd you do with it? I said, I just got

508
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 3>it and laughed it there. I said, why don't we

509
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.400
<v Speaker 3>go back there. We'll bring our packboards with we'll go

510
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:58.279
<v Speaker 3>back there. Maybe we'll just cut it in half, pull

511
00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.640
<v Speaker 3>it up in a tree for the night. So you

512
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 3>go there. He says, where did you shoot it? I

513
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.799
<v Speaker 3>said right here? He said, where'd you got it? I said,

514
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.440
<v Speaker 3>we're right there. The guts were gone, the liver was gone.

515
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 3>The deer was right in the same spot. When I

516
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.559
<v Speaker 3>say the guts are gone, they're gone. You know what

517
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, They're gone. They didn't get pulled off. If

518
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 3>there was wolves there they got into it. You would

519
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 3>know that wolves got into it because they would have

520
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 3>been strung out everywhere there just gone. But that deer

521
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.640
<v Speaker 3>was right there. So he said, let's get it the

522
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 3>hell out of here. So we ended up cutting in

523
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.519
<v Speaker 3>half put in the pack. We never brought a gun

524
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 3>with us either, because why would you need one. The

525
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 3>deer's already dead, right he kept looking around. He was uneasy.

526
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:43.680
<v Speaker 3>It's odd because he doesn't get uneasy. He starts high

527
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.079
<v Speaker 3>tailing out of there. He's got the only little dim flashlight.

528
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't have one. I'm tripping over things with half

529
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 3>a deer someone everywhere. Twist my knee type thing. We

530
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>get it out, throw it in the back of the truck,

531
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:58.000
<v Speaker 3>sleep in the trailer. Nothing happened. Calm Wyatt, get up

532
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.880
<v Speaker 3>in the morning. My dad had an other guy's son.

533
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 3>They were a lot older, but we hunted with almost

534
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.880
<v Speaker 3>every year. They were up in another area up there,

535
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.359
<v Speaker 3>which again is half a valley over. He said, okay,

536
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 3>we got one, so let's go over all hunt with them.

537
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm only allowed one mule deer there, I could

538
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 3>still hunt white tail or black bear. So we went there,

539
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 3>and they're jealous because I got one. Anyways, that day

540
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hunt. They went out, they didn't get nothing.

541
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.599
<v Speaker 3>The next day my dad said, why don't you go

542
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>out look for a white tail up the hill behind us.

543
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 3>I said, okay, So I get up in the morning.

544
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.240
<v Speaker 3>They get up. They all take off different directions. I

545
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 3>just walked straight from behind the trailer where they mind

546
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:40.960
<v Speaker 3>gravel out for the roads. I just walked up that

547
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 3>got into a logging slash. I didn't even get in

548
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:45.400
<v Speaker 3>there very far. I was just walking around a bit.

549
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Then the fog started rolling in. The fog would roll

550
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>in so damn thick. I can't even tell if I'm

551
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 3>going up or down anymore because I'm only going a

552
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.079
<v Speaker 3>little ways. I didn't have anything with me, so I stopped.

553
00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Fog blows away. I can see. Then here's that same

554
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.839
<v Speaker 3>damn thing in my eyes, same picture, same thing right

555
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 3>in my eyes says I'm over here. I turn around, looked.

556
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 3>My heart is pounding. Basically, all I did is I

557
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 3>just ran down towards the trailer.

558
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>That was it.

559
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 3>It was about nine am they come back. I was

560
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 3>probably already about eight beer sleep.

561
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>That was done.

562
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>That was that. But it's funny looking back on it

563
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 3>now because at the time it doesn't make any sense, Right,

564
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 3>that's just your mind playing tricks on you. But what

565
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I would think about is, if that's my mind's playing

566
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 3>tricks on me, why doesn't happen every time I go places?

567
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Why is it only particularly in these areas I hear people,

568
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I listen to a lot of podcasts. I find myself Honestly,

569
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 3>if I stop and I give myself a minute to think,

570
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 3>these things come back to me because it doubles me,

571
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 3>because it keeps going on. I'm moved. I'm living up

572
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 3>here now in the Okanagan. I was working up in

573
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 3>the same place. I came home on a long weekend.

574
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I just got a new truck. I was going to

575
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 3>go to a place that's about an hour half dry.

576
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I've been up the hill. It's called the New Slate.

577
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 3>I drove up into there. I saw this spot. That's

578
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 3>a beautiful hole. I'm going to go hike up in there.

579
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>There's going to be a buck bedded right up on

580
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the top of there, for sure. I start walking up

581
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 3>the road and I look at the ground and I go,

582
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 3>would you look at that footprint? Right, I'm looking at it.

583
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Then of course I'm looking at it. Oh, that's a bear,

584
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 3>you can see. That's an elk moose. That must be toes.

585
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>That's just proved to me. Even now, people get cooled, right,

586
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 3>So I've seen double step bears. I've seen all sorts

587
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 3>of things, right, And anyways, I leave the road hiked.

588
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a stand there. I thought it was only fifteen

589
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>twenty feet wide from where I art. It was further

590
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>than that. It was horrible. I started walking through there.

591
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I got in there, I was soaked from about here

592
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>down to My boots had water inside of them because

593
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>it had been it was raining, right, So I get

594
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>to the other side of them. This is a stupid idea.

595
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Then I look at this hill and you get over there.

596
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 3>It's this. So I'm crawling up the hill hands eaves.

597
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 3>I get the top. I was right. There had been

598
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 3>deer up there. There wasn't any There was beds all

599
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 3>over in there. I'm walking around and I hear a

600
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 3>scratching noise on a tree. Stop and looking around, go,

601
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 3>what's that? Swirl a mouth full of mushrooms a bunch

602
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>under an arm, looks at me, drops them all on

603
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 3>the ground and starts screaming at me, Hey, buddy, pick

604
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 3>all the mushrooms up. Put him at the bottom of

605
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 3>the tree. That's cool. I've never seen that before. So

606
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking around. Okay, I'm just gonna sort of circle

607
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>around and make my way down and start going down

608
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 3>the bank because it was really steep, and I cut

609
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 3>on an angle. I got down. All of a sudden,

610
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 3>I started getting really uneasy. I don't know why. I

611
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 3>start going down the hill. At one point I look,

612
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I can see the roof on my truck. But as

613
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>soon as you go down, you lose sight of that.

614
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>I start walking. Then I don't know how I did it.

615
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 3>I just lost my bearings. I started walking the wrong direction,

616
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>and I was panicking. How am I not at my

617
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 3>truck a while ago? Then I pop out, I'm in

618
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 3>the wrong spot. I got back. I'm ejecting my shells

619
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 3>out of my gun through my gun in the back seat,

620
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>fire at my truck. I leave. I get down onto

621
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 3>the road from where I was. There's a big, huge

622
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 3>swamp in the middle there. It goes around. There's a

623
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of a shitty little road that goes around this area,

624
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 3>and I'm driving along. There's a straight stretch. I look

625
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 3>off two hundred yards away, go oh, look at that.

626
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a wolf on the road. Cool. So I say

627
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 3>to myself, I'm gonna shoot that wolf. I open the

628
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>door of the truck. I get out. I was having

629
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 3>a rifle in my hand and looking at it. I'll

630
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 3>get a little closer, so I jump in start driving

631
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>up the road to get about one hundred yards away.

632
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 3>I get about seventy five eighty yards away from this thing.

633
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 3>I got out, threw a shell in there, closed the gun,

634
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 3>put it up. Something isn't right because it kept looking

635
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 3>back over its shoulder. Something right here. I cracked the

636
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 3>bolt that pulled it back, left the shell in there,

637
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 3>jumped in with the door open. I'm driving up the road.

638
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, I notice this thing's tied to

639
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 3>a stick at somebody's dog. I see these people sitting

640
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 3>there and I'm about to give them an earfold, but

641
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 3>they're standing around looking at the road, pointing on the ground,

642
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 3>looking at this. I was furious, but again I was

643
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 3>just on my god. I can't believe I was close

644
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 3>to shooting that dog. There's wolves up there. They're a

645
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 3>big problem. But anyways, and.

646
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea. We'll be

647
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

648
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<v Speaker 3>I just kept going past them. You guys are idiots

649
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 3>who would tie their dog out on a corner where

650
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 3>you know anybody that come through, or they probably would

651
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 3>have thought the same thing. I get just around the corner,

652
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 3>there's these two trees over the road and they are

653
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>only three inches around. They weren't there. On my way in,

654
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought, if those idiots are sitting out there, because

655
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll do that take shots at a tree. I'm out

656
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 3>of the truck, I'm on the ground. I'm looking at them.

657
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 3>What in the hell now, I've never seen that before

658
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I drove up, they were not there. They were broken

659
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 3>off at about I'd say they were within six inches

660
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 3>of each other, but I'm going to stay around seven footmark.

661
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>They were older. You'll see olders in the fall have

662
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 3>almost the white. They almost look oxidized. You put your

663
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 3>nail on it, it'll turn a brighter green color for

664
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>seven eight inches either side. It's sporadically brighter green. They

665
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 3>were folded in on themselves. The wood wasn't broken on

666
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 3>the front or back. Again, this is after listening to podcasts.

667
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>How in the hell did those idiots break those trees?

668
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you couldn't put a strapper on pulm over.

669
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 3>They would have broke off at the ground. Now I'm

670
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 3>standing there and all of a sudden, I just get

671
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 3>this shutter. You wouldn't believe it's right off the edge

672
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>of the road. It goes down fairly steep. But they

673
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 3>said it's that swampy area it's cedar in there, it's dark.

674
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I got the ebgb's, I ran around the oside, truck

675
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 3>counted and drive took off. Why can't I just go

676
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 3>enjoy anything and feel okay? I start listening to a podcast.

677
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you ever heard of the Meat

678
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Eater podcast Steve Ranella. Somebody asked a question Steve, what's

679
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 3>the best place to go hunting? He says, as close

680
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>to your damn house as possible. I'm driving out there

681
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 3>sixty bucks in gas. It's the waste of money. I'm

682
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 3>never driving out there again. Where I live. I'm not

683
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>even five minutes. I'm up on a power line. Why

684
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 3>don't I hunt up there? The guy that I bought

685
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>the house from was a taxidermist to be shot two

686
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>tier up there every year. Why am I not just

687
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 3>going there? I come back. I went to work, came

688
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 3>back the next long weekend, which was Thanksgiving long weekend.

689
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I came home, stopped being quick, said hi. I said

690
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 3>to my wife at the time. I actually, hey, I'm

691
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 3>gonna grab my rifle quickly go up the power lines

692
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>before dark, because then that weekend mule deer bucks are open.

693
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 3>White tail bucks, white tail doze black bears. So I

694
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.759
<v Speaker 3>thought there's a good chance of seeing something. I drive

695
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>up there and on the road going up, I just

696
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 3>got past the gate. There's a grouse on the road.

697
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I jumped out shot that. As I'm going to pick

698
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 3>it up, I hear a vehicle coming. Crap, don't tell

699
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 3>you one of these Karen's down here. Thinks I'm too

700
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 3>close to be shooting right. I thought somebody's gonna come

701
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>scream at me. This guy rolls up beside me, is

702
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>all were you doing? That's how I just shot a

703
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 3>girls all right on, drives past me, goes up the hill.

704
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 3>I get to the top of the hill, I can

705
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 3>see that he's obviously got a pausey because he had

706
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>a g as you could clearly see where he went.

707
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 3>He went to the right. I wanted to go to

708
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 3>the laft, so I thought, right on, that's great. I

709
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 3>drive up there. Now this area, I used to have

710
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 3>a toyt of tundra that I would drive up there

711
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>all the time. I took that up there in the

712
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>early spring, and my trucks are still the only tracks

713
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 3>through the mud puddles. So I drive my new truck

714
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>up there. Of course, keeps narrowing up, and you're driving

715
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>past a stick on the side that's up the side

716
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>of your truck. So now I'm already upset. You had

717
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 3>your truck for about three weeks and you already got

718
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 3>scratched up the side of it. I drive up in there.

719
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm just mad already, not at this point, So I

720
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 3>decided I'm just going to turn around right here. So

721
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I just do a three point turn, but I'm pushing

722
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 3>trees over with a bumper and pushing them over with

723
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 3>the front with just little packer poles. And then I

724
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>backed in where it was grassy. Turn off the truck.

725
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I jump out, left my phone and the cup holder

726
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 3>in the middle, and grabbed three or four shells. I

727
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 3>jump out. As soon as I got into the ground,

728
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I felt something's looking at me. What's going on here?

729
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 3>Something was looking at my legs, And I know that

730
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 3>sounds weird, but that's what it felt. So I just

731
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>started shoving shells in my gun. Drop one on the ground.

732
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Of course, where i'd closed the door quietly right, I'd

733
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 3>been down to pick a shell up. Of course, I

734
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 3>hit the panic button, so that's going off. Now, I figure, okay,

735
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 3>everything's green, so I'm swearing at myself for being an idiot.

736
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Get my keys out, turned that off, pick up the shell.

737
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 3>That's cool. I may as well go home. There's not

738
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be any gear up here now, or anything

739
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>for that matter. But I thought I'll just quickly walk.

740
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm parked right under the power lines the right over top.

741
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 3>You can hear them kissing the ticket away. I walked

742
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 3>to the right side of the road from there. It's

743
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a rock ledge that goes down about one hundred feet.

744
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 3>If you fell up there, you'd have a bad day.

745
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's swampy below. There's a road that runs up through there,

746
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 3>then it banks up the other side that's cut, and

747
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>then there's heavy fur up on the top bridge. That

748
00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 3>would be about a three hundred yard shot. So I'm thinking,

749
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 3>can all just walk into there. I'm set up. I'll

750
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 3>wait around for twenty minutes half hour, see if anything

751
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 3>comes out. So I'm walking and I see a moose

752
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>skull on the ground there. I could tell it was

753
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 3>a little bit bigger than illegal and immature. It had

754
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 3>three on the one side. I think somebody probably shot

755
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that left that there to waste. Anyways, there's a I

756
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>think it was a seater, I don't know, fourteen inches

757
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>down at the bottom or so. It came off that.

758
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 3>So I put my back, sat down in there, and

759
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking out over. I start looking down that there

760
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 3>was a little road there. There's something here. There's got

761
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a deer looking at me. I'm thinking, even

762
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 3>though I know I'm not gonna know, if there's a

763
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 3>deer staring at me. They're sitting there for three four minutes, maybe, Matt,

764
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 3>And that was my attention was fully on. There's something

765
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 3>here for sure. Then for right where I came over

766
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 3>the bank, I hear it sounds. The closest I can

767
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>say it sounds too, is when a helicopter is firing

768
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>up that rotor starts going. Just when it starts going,

769
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 3>superstonic area that I'm at, it's all rock. It's not

770
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>even really gravel on top. It's just it's just bladed off,

771
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 3>roughly dirty. Right, I'm already pissed off. I've clearly scratched

772
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 3>my track. I had to back up, drive through these trees,

773
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and then I've got now, there must have been a

774
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 3>deer standing right there. Right, it's ran off. So I'm

775
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>sitting there for a minute. How did I not see

776
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 3>anything standing there, is what I'm thinking, And I said, there,

777
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 3>you know what that said? I got to walk up.

778
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 3>I got to see because I don't know, if you

779
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 3>know the big mule ears when they take off a

780
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of times you're your sudden. I honestly think after

781
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 3>hearing things, I think a lot of people would mistake

782
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 3>that for something. By beetle running away, I'm thinking, I know,

783
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 3>white tailed run. They don't weigh two thousand pounds, so

784
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was. I get up to

785
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 3>the road and walking up, I just something told me

786
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 3>to go to the other side of the road. And

787
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I walk over and looking I see the grass is

788
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 3>knocked down going up this way, so I'll follow that,

789
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 3>and immediately thinking black bear because they'll fold it over right.

790
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 3>But it was narrow. I was looking at if somebody

791
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 3>had cut it off. This talls the tops everywhere else

792
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 3>were taller, and so many of them were cut off

793
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 3>and off to everywhere. This is weird whatever. So I'm

794
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 3>walking right through that and I get up to the

795
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>it's not far from the edge of that road. I'm

796
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 3>forty yards here, forty fifty yards. It breaks off heads

797
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 3>down the other direction, I stop at a tree there.

798
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I look. I can see right where I was sitting,

799
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 3>but I couldn't see where I was. If I was

800
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>two feet taller, I could have been looking at myself.

801
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 3>So I walked down a little further. I'm following where

802
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 3>this grass was, and on the other side it's all row,

803
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 3>just with mostly liking. I walked that way. I was thinking, Okay,

804
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna go down a little further. I'm going

805
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 3>to loop around. I'm just gonna do a ten minute

806
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 3>walk back up to the power line trail back to

807
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 3>the truck. I walk down, I go to step up.

808
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>It's getting to be like Rocky Boulderie, right, So you

809
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 3>got to look at the groundhere you're gonna step and

810
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 3>remember I'm stepping forward with my right foot. And I

811
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 3>stopped right before I put my foot down a footprint,

812
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 3>but pounded into the liking on the rock a quarter

813
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 3>inch thick. That's weird. And I pounded my boot next

814
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>to it. Can't see that, that's odd. I said, that's

815
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a big dude, even though there was toes. That's the thing.

816
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 4>I think.

817
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, that's a big boot. I'm looking right at toes. Anyways,

818
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 3>I take a step with my left step with my

819
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 3>right step with my left I look down, I see

820
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a left foot. Where's the other right? You know what

821
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean. I missed a step here, so I backed up.

822
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>That's weird because I see that when I see that one.

823
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Now the sun's not down. But if you are familiar

824
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.119
<v Speaker 3>with any tracking at all, a lot of times, especially

825
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 3>in the fall when it's freezing at night, if you

826
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 3>get something fresh, a lot of times it'll have almost

827
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 3>a bluey tinge to it in the evening, if it's

828
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>right fresh. I don't know why, but it does. Holy crap,

829
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 3>there's one. It's all on the top of rocks. That's weird.

830
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Have a brother in law at six eight. We's got

831
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>a long stride, but it ain't that long, not on rocks.

832
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 3>That's weird. To go a little bit further all of

833
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I stop on my tracks. I'm looking. I

834
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 3>go the woodline's probably only one hundred and thirty yards

835
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>from there. I could see that there was a blowdown

836
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 3>tree and there with a big root ball there. Those

837
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>tracks went right to it. I didn't have binoculars. They

838
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't use your scope for scopeing things, but I didn't

839
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>put it up. As soon as I started looking at

840
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 3>the thing, I felt like I had just been scolded.

841
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I felt that had just been yelled at. I was

842
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 3>in trouble for something. Right away. I was like, oh shit.

843
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, there must be a sow with cubs

844
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 3>around here, a mama bear. I'm in trouble. So I

845
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 3>turn around. I start walking back along those tracks. There.

846
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 3>I go up over. There's my truck. I don't know,

847
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 3>fifty yards away. I go a little bit further. The

848
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>feeling went away. I guess the bears left right. I

849
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't see a bear to confirm there was a bear around.

850
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear anything, so I doubt there was a bear. Anyways,

851
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I was looking down at the ground where the grass

852
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 3>was cut down. I'm thinking, oh, a horse must ran

853
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 3>that way, but the grasses all the other ways because

854
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking of a horseshoe, right, that's weird. And

855
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, what animal do I know that would run

856
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 3>that way that would have a backwards foot? I don't

857
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 3>know of one. So I'm kneeling there. I've bend down,

858
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I put my hand in it. I'm feeling around. Well,

859
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>that's pounded into the ground at the time with my

860
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 3>pack on my rifle. I just had a little camel

861
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 3>back on. I would say with all that, I would

862
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 3>probably be two fifty five to sixty. I couldn't dent

863
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the ground sitting there, Look a little further, grab the grass.

864
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I pull it up. The foot came in. When it

865
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 3>lifts off, it's almost I don't know. It didn't rip

866
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 3>the grass with it. It went into it. I saw

867
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the middle. I thought that was the end of it.

868
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 3>I go a little further. That's a tool right there.

869
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't say it to it was another impression. I

870
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.480
<v Speaker 3>pull the grass back, and sitting there, I got my

871
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 3>rifle in my hand on this side. I'm kind of

872
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 3>two three four. As I got to four, it started

873
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 3>dawning on me. That's something right here. As I was

874
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 3>feeling the fifth impression there right there, at dawned to me,

875
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I know what this is. I'm looking down. This is

876
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the other part I wish I could make up. There

877
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 3>was shit on it, and it looks man shit. There

878
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 3>was zero smell to it. It was slightly oxidized, there

879
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 3>was no smell. It had broken. There was hairs stuck

880
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 3>in it on the outside. And just looking at this there.

881
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 3>I looked at my truck again. It just brought me

882
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 3>back right at that moment, to that first time. That

883
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 3>just made everything real. In that moment, I looked at

884
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 3>my truck. It's forty yards away. I remember saying it

885
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>in my head, I'm not going to make it. Nothing happened,

886
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 3>but I was convinced I was going to die for

887
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 3>no reason. Something was just going to club me over

888
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the head. That's the end of it for me, right,

889
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 3>So I get up, run back to the truck, get

890
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 3>to the trucks projecting shelves out. To this day, there's

891
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>two up there somewhere. I never got a mac threw

892
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>my gun in the back, so he got in the truck,

893
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 3>pounted it, drive just smashing through things. I picked up

894
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 3>my phone. I had twenty texts from my ex wife.

895
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 3>She's like, at home, kids are driving me nuts. She's

896
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 3>with them all the time. Right ripped down to the

897
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 3>bottom of the hill. I didn't turn left. I went

898
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 3>right down into town. Stop at the beer store. I

899
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>text her. I said, I think I've officially lost my mind.

900
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 3>She's I'm losing my mind. I'm dealing with these kids

901
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven. I'm actually going crazy. She's what's

902
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 3>going on is I'll explain to you in a minute.

903
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Pull up in front of the beer store. Leave my

904
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.199
<v Speaker 3>truck on this the road to run across the road.

905
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Realized I forgot my bullet, turned around and looked back.

906
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>It looked funny because I'd just come through the rocky

907
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 3>so I had snow ice hanging off the break cable.

908
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Had closed the door in such a panic along a

909
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>sapling that was about five feet long. I ripped it out,

910
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 3>so I was dragging it with the door all through town.

911
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>The root bawl down there, rip the door seal out.

912
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I was pretty impressed. There. Let an idiot go home.

913
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Tell her what happened. Next morning, because she had been

914
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 3>listening to the podcast. I told her the first thing

915
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 3>that happened to me. She was really interested, and she

916
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 3>fully believed me because he's you can't even embellish a

917
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>story about a fish and catch. I thought it was

918
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 3>an eleven inch fish. It wasn't even a foot long.

919
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to tell you. She's we're going

920
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 3>to go up in the morning and for her daughter.

921
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 3>We got this little plaster kit you make up. It

922
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 3>seems dumb. I live on a rock. But you make

923
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>rocks at a plaster and the kids paint them. So

924
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought, I'll take that up there. I'm going to

925
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 3>cast this. So we get up in the morning, take

926
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 3>the dog, both the kids. We grabbed a twelve gage

927
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and have full of slugs. Drive up there. Get out

928
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 3>of the truck. We're looking around. I go this way.

929
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 3>She takes off the other side of the truck. The

930
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 3>kids are running around circles. Now there's kids at all.

931
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I was running through all the tracks where so I

932
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>can't tell what's what. I could see the track clear

933
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 3>as day because it had froze at night. When you

934
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 3>swish grass and freezes, it turns that dead color. When

935
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at it at night, you could see

936
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 3>the pressure marks in it. It's you pick up a

937
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 3>piece of spinach to push your nail into it. You

938
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 3>could see that throughout where it was mashed down. Even

939
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 3>in the daytime. When I'm looking at it, thinking I

940
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 3>couldn't dent the damn ground, I don't get it. She says,

941
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 3>what were you doing on the ground over here? Were

942
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 3>you rolling on the ground over here? Why would I

943
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 3>be rolling on the ground, Why would I do that?

944
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 3>She's no, I'm serious, and I walk over there. There

945
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>is a shape. It's weird because I didn't notice any

946
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 3>tracks coming to it where that was about six feet

947
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>from where my bumper was when I pulled in to

948
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>turn around back up. So in my head, I'm wondering,

949
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>is it possible that that one truck came up field

950
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 3>up to the right. I came that way. Maybe there

951
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 3>was something around him going up it hits the back,

952
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to sail right by it, but no, I'm

953
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>going to turn around right there, and maybe it's shit.

954
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 3>It's passed. I almost hit the thing. Is that why

955
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I felt as someone was staring at my legs? Was there?

956
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, That's just what it looks to me.

957
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 3>But the other thing is from right at that spot

958
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 3>to where I was, You're only talking twenty yards maybe

959
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty yards probably to where I was to where that was.

960
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 3>He's looking to the ground and you can see where

961
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 3>a footprint starts toes would be dug in, and there's

962
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 3>crap right from there the whole way up, even past

963
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 3>where I went, And I was just thinking, is that

964
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 3>a fight or flight thing? I don't know, but all

965
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 3>I can say is that's what I saw. I don't know.

966
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I could be wrong, but I don't think I am

967
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.079
<v Speaker 3>because I been in the bushel lot. I've seen a

968
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of things that there's only been a handful of

969
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 3>times where there's things that I can say honestly don't

970
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 3>make sense. Now. After that, I said, screw it. I'm

971
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 3>not hunting anymore because this is re ridiculous. Two years past,

972
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 3>never went hunting. Didn't even want to go fishing, although

973
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I did go fishing ice fishing, and I'll go to

974
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that a little later. This is a thing. This is

975
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 3>troublesome to me because this doesn't happen to people. When

976
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 3>we saw those tracks up there, we got to cast these.

977
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, no, I'll do it next time I find stuff.

978
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>She says, you got to call somebody. I turned and

979
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 3>looked at her. I said, what am I going to do?

980
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 3>Something inside of me? And I didn't tell anybody for years.

981
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to. There was another guy I talked

982
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.440
<v Speaker 3>to the time wasn't right, I don't know. He made

983
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>a comment and I told him to f off. I

984
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.639
<v Speaker 3>just hung up the phone. Fast forward a couple of years.

985
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I was listening to another guy from Canada, here. He's

986
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.559
<v Speaker 3>got to show a YouTube called how to Hunt. His

987
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 3>name's Steve Idella. He's a pretty controversial character. He likes

988
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 3>to call people out. Everybody's an idiot, blah blah blah.

989
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 3>But I heard him talking about some of these stories

990
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 3>because he sounded a little more similar to some of

991
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the things I'm talking about. He just said what he

992
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 3>learned to do is you go to a place in

993
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>your mind broadcast your intent. Right again, I don't know,

994
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that, but put your intent out there.

995
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 3>If you get this feeling shouldn't be here, just go home, right.

996
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I just got this idea that I'm going to go

997
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 3>back up there because I'm not going to drive for

998
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 3>an hour a half to get somewhere to decide I'm

999
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 3>going home. I'll drive five minutes. If I got to

1000
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 3>go home, I'll just go home. So I got up there,

1001
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 3>I drove up to where that had happened. I drove

1002
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 3>past it about only eighty yards. I thought, list is

1003
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 3>close enough. I just put it out there. Hey, you

1004
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 3>know me, you know my family. I was thinking it

1005
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 3>out loud right as they say. I got out of

1006
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.800
<v Speaker 3>the truck, I'm standing there, grab my bullets, put him

1007
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 3>in the gun, put my back on a walk twenty yards.

1008
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm really putting it out there right asking for a

1009
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 3>deer who I can beat my fan. Only will you

1010
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 3>share with me? As ridiculous as it sounds right now,

1011
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I know that, but I felt okay. So I start walking.

1012
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 3>I go down and now I'm about three and ned

1013
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 3>yards from the truck. I do a quick check in.

1014
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Everything's cool, so I keep going to get down. I'm

1015
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 3>walking out because I'd ridden my side by side way around.

1016
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 3>I know the area a bit right as I'll go

1017
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>into that other slash, you know, do a big loop

1018
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>up there through the heavy stuff. Everything was great walking

1019
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.400
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, I just got this something

1020
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 3>just telling me that go back. So I just in

1021
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 3>my head said up, I'm leaving, turned around, got back

1022
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 3>down on the road. That feeling went away. What the

1023
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 3>hell this is ridiculous. I can't even go hunting. I

1024
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 3>walk back. I get to I'm now getting close to

1025
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.559
<v Speaker 3>where my truck is. But I'm on a low road.

1026
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 3>There's a little trail that kicks up, and then there's

1027
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 3>the power line trail that I drove in on. Get

1028
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to the bottom of that look up. There is a

1029
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 3>deer standing there. It's just standing there. That's perfect. Oh

1030
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 3>my gun off my shoulder. It ain't move and it

1031
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 3>doesn't even want to go anywhere. Just shot it and

1032
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 3>dumped it up right there. I thought that was pretty

1033
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 3>odd because I've never even seen a deer up there.

1034
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just coincidence, but it was just odd that

1035
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 3>I get up there, not even one hundred yards from

1036
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>my truck, right on the road. So I just thought

1037
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 3>that's interesting. I just pulled the guts all the internal

1038
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 3>organs out, left them right there, drove my truck down

1039
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 3>through at the back of the truck, went on. It

1040
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>worked out since then they said behind me here as

1041
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 3>hunters range it's called. You can pretty much go all

1042
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 3>the way to Calgary. You won't hit any towns or nothing.

1043
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.280
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing out there. There's a lake up there. Else

1044
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 3>to go ice fishing. In the year before or after

1045
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>that deer, I can't remember. I went out there, same thing.

1046
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I drove out around the back side of the lake,

1047
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 3>got out there, rolled my only eye fishing away, caught

1048
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 3>a fish, and I was fishing away a little longer.

1049
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Then all of a sudden I felt I shouldn't be there.

1050
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>There's no reason for it. You're fishing away. Everything's cool,

1051
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.840
<v Speaker 3>and all sudden, I'm not supposed to be here. This

1052
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 3>is ridiculous. Really, all my stuff go back to the

1053
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 3>truck drive away. I don't know it makes sense. But

1054
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.280
<v Speaker 3>then you fast forward two. I guess we're two weekends

1055
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 3>ago or three weekends ago. So since been divorced, I've

1056
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 3>got a new girlfriend. She's work in psychology, counseling things

1057
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 3>like that, right, So at this point these are just

1058
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 3>things that have happened. I don't feel I'm crazy with

1059
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 3>it sometimes, but just explaining things that she's I believe you,

1060
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing to not believe. So oddly enough, three weeks ago,

1061
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was two weekends and I can't quite remember.

1062
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Saturday in the afternoon, we decide we're going to go

1063
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 3>for a height. We go up to the power lines there,

1064
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 3>but two snowy slid get up. I'm peeling out. We

1065
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 3>only got up to the first little spur road there.

1066
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.679
<v Speaker 3>I got spun around without going over the bank park there.

1067
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't leave my phone in the truck, I never bring it,

1068
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 3>So we start walking up the road. She doesn't know

1069
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 3>anything about any of this stuff either. I've just shared

1070
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 3>bits about it, but she's never listened to a podcaster

1071
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 3>and she's more a city type. So we got the

1072
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 3>dog with for walking up that road. We didn't even

1073
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 3>go up there very if you've got to walk slow

1074
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 3>because kind of slipping all over the place. Grounds frozen

1075
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 3>and you got powder on top of it. Right, So

1076
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 3>you get up there and I'm pointing, now, Loie, I've

1077
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 3>seen deer here there, down there, moose here, and then

1078
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 3>I'll see that tree there. I cut firewood there, just

1079
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.719
<v Speaker 3>showing her stuff. We get up to where the road

1080
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 3>dead ends. There's a bit of a clearing it cuts off.

1081
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 3>I said, if you go down there, you'll end up

1082
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.800
<v Speaker 3>in somebody's backyard. Now, one guy there will threaten to

1083
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 3>shoot you. I know that for sure because told me that.

1084
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Or you can go up top net. We'll loop you

1085
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 3>around up to the power lines. I'm pointing our raf.

1086
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, dude, a power knock. It's just.

1087
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

1088
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

1089
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 3>So I don't flinch, I don't do anything inside. I'm

1090
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 3>just like, are you serious? What the hell? I didn't

1091
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 3>say anything. I didn't let on at things. I'm standing there,

1092
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm facing away right dog there standing by it. She's

1093
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 3>what was that? I don't know. She's leave why, she's

1094
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel right? Okay, So we walk out of there.

1095
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 3>The whole time I didn't want to say anything because

1096
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't have my truckeees to throw at something. Right,

1097
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So could we start walking back out of there? As

1098
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 3>we get closer to the truck, because yeah, I was

1099
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>like mentioning the wood knock thing, she says, are you serious?

1100
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 3>And so she's I want to learn more about this.

1101
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 3>We didn't do any more learning. So we got back

1102
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 3>to the truck, and then I looked at my phone

1103
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the time. I said, do you want to walk a

1104
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 3>little further, we'll go the other way. So we're going

1105
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.400
<v Speaker 3>to go up the other way, leave phone in there again.

1106
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.440
<v Speaker 3>She's why don't you want to bring your phone? I said,

1107
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 3>because if you have a phone with nothing will happen

1108
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 3>if you got a phone or camera. So we walk

1109
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>up a little bit further and I don't know, all

1110
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden ageah this is nothing because I didn't

1111
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 3>notice anything. But she just says I got the same feeling.

1112
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be here. So we went back.

1113
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>That was it went home. Next day, I was going

1114
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 3>to go up to that place that I said I

1115
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 3>went ice fishing. It was pretty cold. He loaded up

1116
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 3>some firewood, was going to go up there and maybe

1117
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>go ice fishing. But we got a deep blast here

1118
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 3>a little bit ago, uh maybe a week half about.

1119
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Everything's freezing up the lake ear for some reason. But

1120
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 3>so we pack up, drive up there. Getting into that,

1121
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to go around the back of the

1122
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.039
<v Speaker 3>lake because if people have been up there a bit

1123
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 3>of snow, there's bad ruts. Turn your wheels and you're

1124
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 3>just be going straight. So I got down into where

1125
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.920
<v Speaker 3>there's a camp area there. Nobody had really been in there.

1126
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Plaze a new trail. There's the picnic tables, the little

1127
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 3>camp fireplace things. So kick the snow off of that.

1128
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.719
<v Speaker 3>We went down by the lake, which is only forty

1129
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 3>yards from that fire pit, just for fun, a little

1130
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 3>bit wooh noise, right, to just show her when it snoiled,

1131
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 3>how dead it is. There's no echo, it's just flat right.

1132
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 3>The sound just disappears. That's pretty cool, right, So we

1133
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 3>should go back up the truck. I get a fire

1134
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 3>going sitting around having a snack. This time I brought

1135
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 3>a shotgun with but it was in the truck. The

1136
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 3>truck's twenty yards away. We're sitting there. We've probably been

1137
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 3>there for about forty five minutes, standing around, dogs barking,

1138
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 3>running all over the place. All of a sudden, I

1139
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>got a smell. It's the thing. I've never smelt anything

1140
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 3>before either any of these time. Never smelt a damn

1141
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 3>thing I've heard about this smell. Again, I'm not saying

1142
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 3>any of this is anything. I'm just saying this is

1143
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 3>what happened. So I got a whiff of something, but

1144
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>it was weird. It hit me up. It felt between

1145
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 3>the eyes. Almost if you smell something, generally, when you

1146
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:28.159
<v Speaker 3>breathe more, you'll smell more. This smell ain't coming from anywhere.

1147
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 3>It was only two or three seconds and then it

1148
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.800
<v Speaker 3>was gone. I looked at the fire. The smoke is

1149
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 3>just you know, going this straight up, right up through

1150
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 3>the trees. It ain't blowing from anywhere. Right after that

1151
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 3>smell went away, I said to earlier, with the f

1152
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 3>is that smell? She's like, you smell that? Yeah?

1153
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

1154
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:44.280
<v Speaker 3>She's been smelling it for a while. She just wanted

1155
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 3>to go. So we get back into the truck again,

1156
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.320
<v Speaker 3>so we're leaving. It was horrendous, but it was there,

1157
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 3>it was gone. It didn't seem it was on the

1158
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.920
<v Speaker 3>wind because there wasn't any wind to carry a scent

1159
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 3>from anywhere. And we get in the truck and were

1160
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.960
<v Speaker 3>going start driving. I waited till we got out of

1161
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 3>there because at one point the truck slide towards the edge.

1162
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.320
<v Speaker 3>This is going to be cool to walk from here.

1163
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I just started mention in the smell. I didn't smell

1164
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:09.880
<v Speaker 3>it it, it was in my head. I don't know

1165
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 3>what to tell you. That's all I really know, unless

1166
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.119
<v Speaker 3>you go back further. I was saying, in that area

1167
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 3>where all that crap had happened, when I was about eighteen,

1168
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 3>I think I was hunting there at the Junior Tag

1169
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:24.119
<v Speaker 3>with my dad and we went up there. We hunted

1170
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 3>that area a lot over the years. I many times

1171
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.119
<v Speaker 3>would hear noise talking out in the bush, the kids

1172
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 3>on a playground. Almost one time I remember I went math.

1173
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I said to my dad, I was like, hey, Dad,

1174
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 3>where's the nearest town. He's about eight miles that way.

1175
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Where's the nearest playground? And he looks at me. Do

1176
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you not just hear me? He says, I said, well,

1177
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I heard kids on a playground when we go, oh,

1178
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 3>we're going to get your ears checked. But it was

1179
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 3>weird because he would be a muttering there's nobody around there.

1180
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 3>And then the one evening we went up there. I

1181
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't have a trailer at that time. He just propped

1182
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 3>the trees up in the rear bed pocket went across

1183
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 3>the headache rock tarp over that middle of the night,

1184
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 3>that thing just slammed down on us. My dad got up,

1185
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 3>curse and swear and put it all back up again.

1186
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.199
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't windy or anything. It came down a second

1187
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>time an hour or two later. Then he ended up

1188
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 3>throwing the sticks away. It's just had the tarp on

1189
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 3>top of us. Sticks broke. The second guy, I don't

1190
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 3>know stuff that's happened. Okay, get or leave it. That's

1191
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 3>all I know.

1192
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to when you guys were

1193
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 1>in the camp or during that experience. It came out

1194
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 1>and found something that slapped the side of the Troilok.

1195
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 1>In retrospect, looking back, do you think your dad was

1196
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>aware of something. Do you think he was awake? Did

1197
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you ever have a conversation with him about that moment?

1198
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he heard more than you did? He

1199
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't willing to tell you.

1200
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 3>You know what is funny is I think so. But

1201
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 3>he's the kind of guy though I've never seen him

1202
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>even show signs of being frightened about anything. He could

1203
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 3>have seen one just say I saw a bear. You

1204
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 3>know that's him. I've never had that conversation with him

1205
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 3>because I just know he'd be like, you're an idiot

1206
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 3>type thing. So I just never bothered. But I will

1207
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 3>say my ex wife would talk to him about it.

1208
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 3>The one time. Oddly enough, he went hunting that weekend.

1209
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.400
<v Speaker 3>He was going up to that same place alone. I

1210
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to go because I'm out. I'm not going

1211
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 3>there anymore. He was gone for nine days. He was

1212
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 3>going to go up there, and he was going to

1213
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.039
<v Speaker 3>go to the cabin up one hundred miles, drop off

1214
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 3>the trailer, come over here, hunt with me for a

1215
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:33.599
<v Speaker 3>couple of days because he was going to be two weeks.

1216
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 3>He calls me he's leaving home, goes up there. Yeah,

1217
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm going up to dead Man's there and I thought, okay,

1218
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 3>cool night one day, goes by the next day about

1219
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 3>one o'clock, people's in the driveway. I said, what the

1220
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 3>hell are you doing here? You're supposed to be hunting

1221
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:51.480
<v Speaker 3>for eight more days. Oh yeah, no, I figured i'd

1222
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.679
<v Speaker 3>come over here hunt with you. I was like, cool,

1223
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 3>And I hear him talking to my exit at the time.

1224
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 3>He says, yeah, there was a couple of moose screwing

1225
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.639
<v Speaker 3>around outside the train. They kept brushing up against it,

1226
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's when way Waife mentioned that to him. Really,

1227
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.639
<v Speaker 3>he never told me anything about that. He never mentioned anything,

1228
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 3>And she's I don't think he really feels comfortable talking

1229
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:11.920
<v Speaker 3>to you about anything. So you're telling me there was

1230
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 3>moose pushing on your trailer in the middle of the nighties. Yeah,

1231
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I could hear him out there to that. I say,

1232
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe there was, but I don't know that i'd ever

1233
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 3>heard of it, that they'll go out for a while

1234
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 3>be strewing around outside of your trailer.

1235
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1236
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it happens to a lot of people. Honestly,

1237
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>having the knowledge that I have now about these things

1238
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>versus ten fifteen years ago, I'll look back at things

1239
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me when I was a kid. Things

1240
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>people have told me shared with me that they thought, oh, man,

1241
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I had this weird thing happened with a bear. They

1242
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 1>tell you all that if you look back, knowing what

1243
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, now.

1244
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Goough, that's probably not a bear. So I think it

1245
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 3>happens to a lot of people.

1246
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Man, I think it's important to share these kind of

1247
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>stories that all of these things happen. It's the culmination

1248
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of the evidence, the sounds, the feelings. Again, I could

1249
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>be wrong. I'm not sure that it's mind speak. I

1250
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know that it's these things telepathically communicating with people.

1251
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>But I do believe that there is a sixth sense

1252
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that people have. I've talked about it tons of times

1253
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>as a copics that I was in the situations that

1254
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 1>have happened to me. I may not be here having

1255
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this conversation had I not listened to my gut. But

1256
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it didn't have anything to do with any kind of

1257
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 1>mind speak, sasquatch or any of those things. I think

1258
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 1>it was just intuition. But I do have an open

1259
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>mind to these things. May be something more than we know,

1260
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and may be those abilities. It's happened to too many

1261
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 1>people in too many situations for it not to be something.

1262
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>How have you rationalized that in your brain as far

1263
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>as that part of your experiences. Do you think it's

1264
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>possible that these things are doing that or do you

1265
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's something that maybe your sixth sense is trying

1266
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to wake you up, tell you that you're in danger.

1267
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I've spent a lot of time thinking about that. At first,

1268
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 3>that's just weird. I don't know why. I'm a different person,

1269
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 3>And then I was I'm not the same person anymore.

1270
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 3>In a lot of ways. I'm different and I've never

1271
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:09.519
<v Speaker 3>been a spiritual person. I've never been a lot of things.

1272
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is, but something's changed. Sometimes

1273
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I feel maybe because I forever I was okay, great,

1274
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 3>there's monkeys right now? I don't know because nothing that

1275
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I've experienced makes sense. Why don't I see you? Why

1276
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 3>am I feeling this way? Why are these things happening?

1277
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 3>I can't explain it. And that's why I say. The

1278
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.320
<v Speaker 3>whole subject to me is there's a problem with it.

1279
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 3>There's people that are researchers or quote unquote some of

1280
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 3>them have all the apps ers. Oh it's just an

1281
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 3>undiscovered eight blah blah blah, Okay, that's fair. That's how

1282
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you feel. Do you know this stuff or are you

1283
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 3>speculating because people on the other side of the coin

1284
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 3>are speculating as well. We don't know who's right about anything.

1285
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 3>It's not fair to say you're wrong, I'm right, because

1286
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.679
<v Speaker 3>that's foolish. I'm willing to say at this point something

1287
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 3>tell me that there may be a little more to

1288
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 3>them than Maybe we're capable of quite understanding. Maybe we

1289
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 3>don't understand. I don't understand because my brain isn't wrapping

1290
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 3>around it. So I'm going more and more that way.

1291
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. To hear less Strouds things. I thought

1292
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:16.719
<v Speaker 3>he was kind of cuckoo, And when I hear things,

1293
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm oh, wait a minute, that happened to me before

1294
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 3>I heard any of that stuff. Again, I don't know.

1295
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to tell you anything because I don't know.

1296
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I can just say I'm not a researcher. I'll tell

1297
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.320
<v Speaker 3>you one thing that I put out there every time

1298
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 3>when I go, Please don't let me see you. I

1299
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.000
<v Speaker 3>don't want to see one. I don't want to be

1300
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 3>a round one. I don't know why I don't want to.

1301
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I have zero interest in it and none. It feels

1302
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 3>like the more I have no interest, then that's why

1303
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 3>last week here knock on? Are you serious? Why? Or

1304
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 3>the smell thing? Why? It could have been any other things.

1305
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't want that. I want to go for a walk.

1306
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I want to see a bobcat run up the tree.

1307
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to see a moose if I want to

1308
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 3>see that. I don't want these things that are weird

1309
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 3>or creepy, or the these feelings that come over me

1310
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 3>that year that I got that year when I was

1311
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 3>hunting up here. Then I went for Musapa, I hiked

1312
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 3>all around through there, I found frigging caves. I wasn't

1313
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:12.320
<v Speaker 3>even slightly concerned about anything. Then I'll just go for

1314
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 3>a frigging walk. My tail goes between my legs. It

1315
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if I have a gun or I don't

1316
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 3>have a gun. It doesn't seem to matter. If you

1317
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:20.320
<v Speaker 3>were crazy, you'd probably be crazy all the time. It

1318
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be It just turns on off that you today,

1319
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be schizophrenic, you know what I mean?

1320
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's why I say the whole thing

1321
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.239
<v Speaker 3>to me is a little problematic, because nobody has any

1322
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.519
<v Speaker 3>real good answers none that I can say. You can

1323
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.599
<v Speaker 3>just listen to people go, hey, that's interesting. You either

1324
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 3>choose to say that person sounds genuine if they believe that, Hey,

1325
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's interesting. That's as far as it goes. So

1326
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 3>listen to podcasts. I don't watch anything really on TV.

1327
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Anytime I watch anything, this is logus. Even with podcasts.

1328
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times I listened to them. Man, I

1329
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 3>feel you're lying, right, But again, who's to say it

1330
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.159
<v Speaker 3>is telling the truth or a lie. I'm never gonna

1331
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.920
<v Speaker 3>consider myself so I even close to remotely a researcher

1332
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:06.679
<v Speaker 3>or an investigator enthusiast, I may keep it away from

1333
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.400
<v Speaker 3>me kind of guy. It doesn't go away from my head.

1334
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I've had traumatic things happen and just forget about it.

1335
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 3>It's over done with talked about it, it's gone. This

1336
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.400
<v Speaker 3>isn't going anywhere. That's what troubles me. It's not going away.

1337
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 3>I can talk about it. Then I go somewhere there

1338
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, it's great, we're here again. This

1339
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 3>is me off actually to stop ruining my days. I

1340
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 3>definitely get it.

1341
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Man, It's one of those things that's part of what

1342
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 1>keeps me coming back to the subject why I love

1343
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.719
<v Speaker 1>it so much. There's a lot of unanswered questions. I

1344
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.000
<v Speaker 1>try to keep my mind open. I am a flesh

1345
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and blood guy, but I've interviewed the guy who said

1346
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>he had sex with a sasquatch. There's a place for

1347
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 1>every story. Who am I to say that what this

1348
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 1>person experienced or that person experienced isn't their experience. If

1349
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they believe that they had that experience, I'm gonna let

1350
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it be shared on the show because I think that's important.

1351
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. Men

1352
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 1>have had a blast talking to you right on.

1353
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I enjoyed it. Those great talking to you.

1354
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 4>They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay,

1355
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 4>and I don't want to be long. We're lopping.

1356
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 6>Trying this chart that chid everything.

1357
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Call me ride back right back the joy for me, Joy,

1358
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 5>stay right there, come in right away.

1359
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:26.639
<v Speaker 6>Stass still started to stay, said stands Sissie in state

1360
01:04:27.480 --> 01:05:02.360
<v Speaker 6>state still Sass Games still states Stea. This story used

1361
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.519
<v Speaker 6>to fast ens
