WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.120 Probably the last day that you're in charge of our 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:04.000 musical selection. 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:07.320 But there's a method of your madness here. 4 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:11.560 Vince Gill is the artist and Bill Riley is our guest. 5 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:14.640 So what's the reasoning here? I'm gonna let you explain it. 6 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:15.199 What's going on? 7 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.000 I guess not much of a hipster country thing like 8 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:22.839 you were saying, No Vince Gill, Bill Riley, louse, stoppelgangers. 9 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:24.920 Oh, there's some. 10 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.640 Certain pictures of Vince Gill you can find, and it 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.719 looks like Bill Riley belting out of country too. 12 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:29.280 It's awesome. 13 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:31.079 I have a feeling that our next guest is going 14 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.520 to take on bird with that. Bill Riley joins the program. 15 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.159 Have you ever heard Ryle's that you look like Vince Gill? 16 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:39.840 Hello? 17 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.840 Bill, People stop me, Spence, gotcha, gotcha? 18 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:43.200 Go ahead. 19 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.039 I've had people stop me in airports and places saying 20 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:47.960 I look like Vince Skill. 21 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.840 Oh. Porter Larson is on it today. 22 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.679 Okay, okay, Well we're continuing. 23 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.200 Ryle's a very important hour on the program because last 24 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.439 segment we had Craig Bowler Jack who has won the 25 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.119 UTAs Sports Broadcaster the Year three times, and you Bill 26 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.159 have one Utah sports broadcaster the year three times? Have 27 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.359 you guys been able to get together with the robes 28 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.760 and the brandy and the stoves to celebrate. 29 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.439 Yet we were going to come in studio and where 30 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:18.760 are Hugh Hefner smoking jackets? And if Steve Johnson would 31 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.879 let us maybe fire up a stogy, have a brandy sniffer, 32 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:22.840 one of those type things. 33 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:24.959 I'm gonna go out and limb and say Steve probably 34 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:27.719 wouldn't be thrilled if we're just smoking cigars in the studio. 35 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:28.680 But your point stands. 36 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:33.159 My follow up question is, have you guys cultivated the 37 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.000 handshake like they have at SNL for the five Timers 38 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.480 club where you just go one, two, three, You're great, 39 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:40.120 You're great. 40 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:41.439 Have you and Boller done that yet? 41 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.439 No? But I will let you know. I will let 42 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.239 you know that someone that you know that is close 43 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.040 to you may or may not have shared a secret 44 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:53.879 handshake with. 45 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:54.599 Me that you would know. 46 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:56.120 Oh no, was it Morgan? 47 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.959 It was just not Scaley, No, it was that Scaley. 48 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:01.879 Are you gonna tell me who is share the name. 49 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.560 With you off air? Because I don't want to. I 50 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:04.879 don't want to out him publicly. 51 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.799 Okay, Well, just so you know once you share the name, 52 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.639 he's getting dinged. We're kicking him out because that's not allowed. Bill, 53 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:10.800 that is not allowed. 54 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.840 He's one of your guys, though, he is one of 55 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:13.319 your guys. 56 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.520 Okay, all right now my mind is spinning, but we 57 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:17.280 we shall move on. 58 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:17.520 Bill. 59 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.840 How you been man? What's going on with you these days? 60 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:21.000 I've been good. 61 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.479 I was hoping. I'm glad that Porter brought me in 62 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.560 with Vin skilled today. I was hoping for some third 63 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:26.479 eye blind though. 64 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:30.280 No, we hit our quota. Porter got loose with the 65 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.439 third eye blind. We had like five third eye blind 66 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:33.280 socks the other day. 67 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:35.919 But but what's let's let's get an update. 68 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.479 You know, obviously you're busy up there, and it's a 69 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.080 new it's a new world. So we it's been a 70 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.080 while since we've checked in with you as far as 71 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.319 all of the things you have going on as the 72 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.319 director of broadcasting at the University of Utah. 73 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:49.479 Get let's get an update. 74 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:49.680 There. 75 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.639 A lot of baseball as of late, did some softball 76 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.039 yesterday Weber State and Utah softball. Lots of prep going 77 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:02.680 on for the big spring football game coming up on Saturday, 78 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.280 A chance for Utah anwich. I'm sure, we'll talk about 79 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.360 here momentarily, we'll get to see Devin damp here in 80 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.960 all his glory and the rest of Utah football and 81 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.080 just kind of winding down the season a little bit 82 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:17.840 and then really ramping up for next year. 83 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.240 We did. We're on our way to about fifty. 84 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.520 Events this year on ESPN Plus, and next year we'll 85 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.199 have in the neighborhood of one hundred and ten to 86 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:28.400 one hundred and twenty events. So it will be it 87 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:29.840 will be a big lift next year. 88 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.240 Very nice, very nice. 89 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:34.120 So let's stay in the football space, and let's start 90 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.000 the football portion of the conversation with the fact that 91 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.919 the transfer portal has once again opened up, and it's 92 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.280 a small one. It's I think it's only ten days. 93 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.280 I think it'll close on the twenty fifth. And you know, 94 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.080 you hear some of the interviews and some of the 95 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.560 sound from coach Witt and others. But what do you anticipate, 96 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.080 if anything Utah football doing over the next ten days. 97 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.840 I you know, when spring football ends this weekend, they'll 98 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.400 probably be some departures from the program. 99 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.960 You know, that's always going to be the case. 100 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.639 Some of the guys that figured out that they're not 101 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.400 in the two or the three deep, and they probably 102 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.919 want to move on to go someplace where they can play. 103 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.879 But I think Utah will probably be a little active. 104 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.960 They've always been a little active in the spring portal, 105 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:16.800 and I could see them targeting some folks. 106 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.399 I could see them maybe adding a little bit. 107 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.199 I don't think that they're necessarily going to be out 108 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:24.439 hunting for somebody that's going to be an a one 109 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.160 top line starter, but I could see them probably looking 110 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.120 to add a little bit of depth on both sides 111 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.879 of the ball. I'm not sure where it would be yet. 112 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.720 You've got to talk to Jason Beck and Morgan Scalley 113 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.199 after football kind of wraps up in the spring. 114 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.000 But I would anticipate, as they've been. 115 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.360 The last couple of years, I could see Utah probably 116 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.439 going out and doing a little shopping and probably adding 117 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.439 some depth on both offense and defense. You know, I 118 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.519 wouldn't expect double digits, you know, I'd probably expect maybe 119 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:54.680 a handful of guys, four or five guys. Maybe they 120 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:57.240 would add the portal, but again that's just guesswork on 121 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:57.639 my part. 122 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:01.800 What about wide receiver because just you know, on paper 123 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.360 and look on paper, there are so many new players 124 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:06.560 that we still need to kind of understand what sort 125 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.879 of hand we've been dealt. And honestly, Bill, you know this, 126 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.800 we won't know until fall. You know, spring is spring 127 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.000 and springball springball. And I'm excited to be up at 128 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.639 Rice Ecles on Saturday in the spring game Forever twenty two. 129 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:18.720 Game is always fun. Go to Utah Youth dot Com 130 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.399 for tickets, but just on paper. And then what coach 131 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.959 Witt has said during media, it feels like wide receiver 132 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:27.759 might be a position of need. What tell me your 133 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:28.360 thoughts on that. 134 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.759 Yeah, I think they're trying to I think they've got 135 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.959 numbers right now, Spence, and I think what they've been 136 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:35.879 trying to do through spring and that's why it's going 137 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:37.639 to be interesting for me to talk to Beck. I'll 138 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.600 get a chance to talk to him over the next 139 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.079 day or two leading up to the game. Is where 140 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.279 are You're at? The one name that's come up consistently 141 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.279 through spring football has been Zacharias Williams Zack. They call 142 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.360 him Zach now, but Zach Williams I think has kind 143 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.360 of separated himself as kind of the wide receiver one, 144 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.399 as the guys that they have right now, but they've 145 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.120 got a bunch of other guys. You know, Zipper who 146 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.079 has been in the program, Otto Tea who's new to 147 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.800 the program, the Ryan Davis kid who came from New Mexico. 148 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.240 With Jason Beck who's been in the Pro. There's some 149 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.480 guys that have been there. But I think that they're 150 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:13.199 trying to figure out what the hierarchy is. So it's 151 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:14.959 gonna be really interesting for me to be able to 152 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.839 talk to Jason Beck and see what he's seen over 153 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:23.079 spring football. But to your point, because there haven't been 154 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.040 a lot of names that have really jumped out, it 155 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:29.399 wouldn't surprise me if maybe wide receiver was an area 156 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.600 they look. Now, you know, here's your problem at wide receiver. 157 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.759 Your problem at wide receiver is the elite guys are 158 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.120 probably on teams and if an elite guy comes out, 159 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.480 then you're gonna you know, it's going to be a 160 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.839 bidding war for somebody like that. So I think that 161 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.319 they would look to add somebody who's probably got a 162 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:49.759 little bit of a resume already that's probably played and 163 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.120 produced some places. But I think wide receiver might be 164 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.920 an area that they could look. But I'll find out 165 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:56.720 a little bit more. After the talk, I am able 166 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:57.800 to talk to Jason Beck. 167 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.720 Tell me what you're hearing about Devon, about Devon damp here. 168 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.839 And you know, we've had an opportunity over the past 169 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.680 couple of months to both Jason Beck and coach w 170 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.040 and Morgan too, who joined last week. But I you know, 171 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.240 I asked Jason, and I asked Kyle this too. 172 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.240 I'm not sure how much he loved it, but I asked. 173 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.240 Both of them, like, Devn's the guy, right, like based 174 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:18.560 off of just the difficulty. 175 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.560 Certainly the health has been the biggest thing. 176 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.360 But you know, we certainly have a Utah football fan 177 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.040 base that I think at times were frustrated with the 178 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:31.160 lack of information and the ambiguity surrounding your starting quarterback 179 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.040 under center. And I'm not putting that on any one person, 180 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:37.360 and I will maintain that Cameron Rising should never pay 181 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.160 for a beer again in Salt Lake and should be 182 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.240 remembered as a legend as he exits stage left. But 183 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.519 you know, Jason said, yeah, the jobs Devn's and Kyle said, yeah, 184 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:47.560 if we were playing tomorrow, Devon's our starting quarterback. So 185 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:50.879 at least there there's no ambiguity around. 186 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.000 The decision, at least as of now. 187 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.279 Tell me what you're hearing about the progress of Utah's 188 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:55.560 quarterback Devin damp Here. 189 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:00.439 He's he's spectacular spence in the times I've had a 190 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.160 chance to watch him, and I've I've been able. 191 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.439 To get over to a number of practices. 192 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.879 He is electric. I can't think of a quarterback Utah 193 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.920 has had in the last twenty five years that's comparable 194 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.399 to his skill set. And I say that from an 195 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:19.639 athleticism standpoint. As good an athlete as Tyler Huntley was, 196 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.879 Devin Dampier is a better athlete than Tyler Huntley. 197 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:24.439 He's just got. 198 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.279 The ability to do and move and do things that 199 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.560 other quarterbacks haven't been able to do. Now again, he's 200 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:36.200 doing it in practice against a defense that's been relatively vanilla. 201 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.200 You know, Morgan Scali will dial it up from time 202 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.559 to time, but he is a very unique athlete and 203 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.879 his passing and I watched a lot of his stuff 204 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.200 from New Mexico a year ago. His accuracy, at least 205 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.279 in practice and on the practice field looks like it's 206 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.519 gotten better to me. But here's the thing you've got 207 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.240 to love talking to the. 208 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.799 Coaches up there. He is a leader already. 209 00:08:57.879 --> 00:08:59.320 Now, some of that has to do with the fact 210 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.240 that he knew the Awe offense coming in. That's the 211 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.200 leg up he had on everybody else. But he is 212 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.919 a guy that people have kind of been attracted to. 213 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.159 He's been kind of a teammate magnet, and he is 214 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.519 most definitely a leader on the field and in the 215 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.960 in the classroom as well in the in the film room, 216 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:18.799 and in the offensive meeting room. 217 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.559 So I've not heard one. 218 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.200 Thing on or off the field that is in any way, 219 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.639 shape or form negative about Devin dan Pier. He has 220 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.200 been really impressive this spring with his new teammates. 221 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.039 When it comes to just the dynamic bill of spring football, 222 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.519 what over the years, since you've been doing this for 223 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.039 as long as you have, because you're really old, what 224 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.879 are some of the things that are real that you 225 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.240 would say to the fan base, Because for me, it's 226 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.360 always just been an excuse for those of us that 227 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.879 are in this space to do this for hours every day, 228 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:55.080 to actually talk college football in the spring, and for 229 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.279 college football fans that are chomping at the bit always 230 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.799 because they're crazy people in Addicts reminded that it is 231 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.919 coming back. But what are real things that the coaching 232 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.440 staff is trying to implement that we can actually learn 233 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:07.320 from spring ball. 234 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.039 Well, I think it's athleticism more than anything else, and 235 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:16.799 football moves. It's not that somebody breaks a fifty yard 236 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.840 touchdown in practice. It's how they break the fifty yard touchdown. 237 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:26.200 A guy like Wayshan Parker who's able to he looks 238 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.600 the part of running back one. They've got four really 239 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.000 good running backs on the team right now, but Parker 240 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.559 looks different than the other three. Maybe that's because he 241 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.000 had a really good freshman year at Washington State. But 242 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.840 I think when you see guys out there athleticism and 243 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.679 you know the freakishness that some of these guys possess, 244 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.559 that's what flashes for you. It's not the fact that 245 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.240 they score a touchdown or they do well against the 246 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.679 ones or the twos. It's when you see a guy 247 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.440 come out of a break and he leaves the defensive 248 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.360 back of the dust, or you see a defensive back 249 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:00.799 make a break on a ball and a really nice 250 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.519 play against the first team offense. To me, I don't 251 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:08.080 look at the overall results because again, those can come 252 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.799 and go in spring football. It's how they got there. 253 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:14.480 It's how they made the play. It's out jumping somebody 254 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.279 or outrunning somebody, or just looking the part. So that's 255 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.000 to me what usually translates. It's not that they, oh, 256 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:22.639 they had a ninety yard touchdown run. 257 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:23.440 That's not it for me. 258 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.879 I asked Morgan this question last week, and you know, 259 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.960 it was a typical coach answer, which I expected when 260 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.039 it comes to preseason expectations. 261 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.879 And look, we all know the truth of the matter. 262 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.039 Coaches and players tell us they don't read, they don't listen, 263 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.919 they don't watch, and they do they pay attention. And 264 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:42.799 certainly in this day and age where we all have 265 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.240 computers in our hand and the ability to be inun 266 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.559 data with information twenty four or seven, you're going to 267 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.840 be curious about what other people are expecting from you 268 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.799 in this ecosystem. And last year, everybody expected you tough 269 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:59.320 football to win the Big Twelve. Everybody expected you tough 270 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:03.080 football to go the expanded CFP. This year, Bill, the 271 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:06.279 pressure to do that is not there at all most 272 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.919 of the way. Too early Big twelve predictions have utah 273 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:12.919 about mid tier, about mid table, five, six or seven. 274 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.480 Does the lack of pressure, take anything off the plate 275 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:21.759 of these players and coaches, because coaches, whether it's Kyle 276 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:26.080 or Kalani, we always hear the moniker in the message 277 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.399 nobody believes in. You play with a chip on your shoulder. 278 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.120 Remember everyone picked us six, seven, eight, not one, two 279 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.879 or three. Does the lack of pressure do you think 280 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.200 it bodes well for Utah football this year? 281 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.440 Maybe a little bit, Spence, But what I would say 282 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:44.559 is there's a lot more internal pressure. I think the 283 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.159 lack of results, or the lack of usual results last 284 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.919 year dials it up more internally because the bar has 285 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:56.000 been set so high within the program. I could tell 286 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.919 you Kyle Whittingham and those guys on that staff were 287 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.600 really disappointed with how last year played out. Some of 288 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.480 it was out of their control, like injuries, but you know, 289 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.639 a five win season is not, you know, good by 290 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.360 Utah standards. And so I think that there's a lot 291 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:14.960 more internal pressure this year to have a bounce back 292 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.159 year than there was any kind of external pressure even 293 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.159 last year, because you know, Kyle Whittingham is not going 294 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.919 to coach forever, and I don't think that he wants 295 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.440 to have back to back down years toward the end 296 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.279 of his career. So I just I think there's a 297 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.279 lot more internal pressure to do well. 298 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.080 But here's what I. 299 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.480 Will tell you too, And I think you and I 300 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.200 may have talked about this on prior hits about spring football. 301 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:40.200 There's a real energy and a real kind of vibe 302 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.039 around this team this spring, and I think some of 303 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.039 it's the disappointment of last year, but I think some 304 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.240 of it's the new blood and the new energy that stuff, 305 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.639 you know, that that kind of Jason Beck and Micah 306 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.360 Simon and Mark out to Why have brought in with 307 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.480 the offense, and I think with this new offense, it 308 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:56.799 has kind of brought a little bit out of the 309 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.840 defense as well. So yeah, going back your original point, 310 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.080 I think, you know, externally, there's not a lot of 311 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.000 people talking about him, though some people are, but I 312 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.600 think there's a lot of internal pressure to get back 313 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.120 to where they've been the last couple of years. 314 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.000 You know, it's really interesting you reference that because I 315 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:13.559 had a list of things I wanted to kick the 316 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.559 tires with you today and one of the things I 317 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.000 wanted to ask you about is, you know you listen. 318 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.279 To Kyle Morgan. 319 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.720 You know you listen to all the coaches after practice 320 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:27.159 and during their media availability, and ninety nine percent of 321 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.639 it is coach speak. Ninety nine percent of it is 322 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.519 just kind of them filling their obligations, and I get it. 323 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.320 But sometimes Kyle will say some things that kind of, 324 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.159 you know, make me perk up a little bit. 325 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.000 As my my antennas buzzing a little bit. 326 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.120 And on a number of occasions, Bill, not once, not twice, 327 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.639 multiple times he has said there's more positive energy in 328 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.679 this building than we've had in quite some time, which 329 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.639 struck me because Kyle's not one to run down former players. 330 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.559 I'm not saying he's doing that, and he's not one 331 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.799 to run down form or whatever, but just his expression 332 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.759 of this positive energy around the club, the football team 333 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.200 has caught me. It's got my attention on multiple times. 334 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.759 So elaborate on that and maybe specifically what you've seen 335 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:11.080 and felt from Kyle himself. 336 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.600 I just think that there's some people that I think 337 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.919 the new offensive staff brought a new offensive energy and 338 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.639 kind of a new excitement around the program, and that 339 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.200 certainly jumps start of the offensive side of things, but 340 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.360 I think it's been kind of contagious on the defensive 341 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.840 side as well, because they're seeing all this energy in 342 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.039 this everything that's going on over there. And I think 343 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.679 there's some of it too, is there's a lot of 344 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.360 new faces on this team. There's you know, your roster, 345 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.279 whether you're Utah or your BYU or your Tennessee or 346 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.679 you or your Alabama, you're turning your roster over. So 347 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.919 I think some of the new faces, to go along 348 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.919 with some of the new energy on the offensive side 349 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.799 and some of the new terminology has really done that. 350 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:55.440 And I think it's permeated through the players and the staff, 351 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.799 and I think the head coach has felt some of 352 00:15:57.799 --> 00:15:59.639 that too, and I think there's an excitement about that. 353 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.320 I think Kyle decided he was going to come back 354 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.480 to coach again. I think he felt a little re 355 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:06.600 energized by it. So I think he's brought that with it. 356 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.240 All Right, a couple of minutes left, so let's do 357 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:13.440 a little basketball as Alex Jensen will potentially be coaching 358 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:17.559 his last game with the Dallas Mavericks tonight, so you know, 359 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.879 potentially we'll see that they win. They're going to maybe 360 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:21.960 have one other game, but Alex might be a week 361 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.000 away from leaving Dallas behind and moving here, moving back 362 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.080 here well where he will be the seventeenth head coach 363 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.480 in the history of the Utah men's basketball program. Before 364 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.600 we get to the specifics, bill from your vantage point 365 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.200 thirty thousand foot view about a month, month and a 366 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:37.960 half of Alex's tenures so far. 367 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:39.240 What are the main takeaways. 368 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.600 Well, I think that he's finally beginning to get his 369 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.720 staff in place, and I think that's important. I think 370 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.440 the HighRes this week and getting close to completing his 371 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:51.720 staff are big. I do know, though I don't know 372 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.480 a lot of exact names. I know that they've had 373 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.320 a lot of visitors on campus. I know that the coach, 374 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.240 the staff that's here, Chileus, the GM, some of the 375 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.799 other staff members are really working hard right now. So 376 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.240 I think that they're they're vetting. I think they're doing 377 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.720 their time. They're kind of doing the work and vetting 378 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:12.079 these guys. I don't think they're just going out willy 379 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.000 nilly and grabbing guys, because I think that they want 380 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:16.400 to you know, as Alex has said, and I think 381 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.000 he's probably said it with you and said it on 382 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:19.039 Sean Show too. 383 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.000 He wants to build it the right way. 384 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.279 And doesn't want to just grab guys for the sake 385 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.079 of grabbing guys, because I think we've seen how that's 386 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.440 worked in some other places and it doesn't necessarily work. 387 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.480 So I think that the I think he's had a plan. 388 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.599 I think a lot of people have maybe not necessarily 389 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.039 felt it because he's not here full time. But the 390 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.759 sense I've gotten is he's working a lot behind the scenes, 391 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.880 and he's got the staff in place. It's working too, 392 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:44.880 So I think as he's filling out this staff, I 393 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:46.359 think we're going to be starting to see more and 394 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.720 more players. I think we've got, you know, four commitments 395 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:52.119 right now, or four guys they got a commitment today 396 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.640 according to some of the reports, and then you've got 397 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:59.039 Dawes and Terence Brown and James o'conno who have committed publicly. 398 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.640 So I I think that some of that stuff is 399 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.640 good for them, and I think it's very interesting to see, 400 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.000 you know, how he's putting this thing together. But I 401 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.359