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who do it best. On the agenda today, Ivan Cleary says,

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Isaac Tango rumors are all porky pies. We preview Peneris

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Clash with the Roosters saying hello to a new stadium

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name plus the Alex Johnston moment. What could happen that

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could see us Panther fans storming the field one day.

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But let's get underway and Nathan. The big story over

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the last few days is related to the Panthers center

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Isaac Tango, of course, who is on ninety nine out

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and he has not played yet. So what's the current

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situation regarding Isaac and his time here at the Panthers,

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which is supposed to go through until the end of

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twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he's one of the longest actually, so twenty

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twenty eight for him. And then there's a Lindsay Smith

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signed to twenty twenty nine just recently, so it's him

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and Lindsay after twenty twenty seven at this stage. But look,

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Isaac was named in the Round one team. He was

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named in the centers for that game against who do

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they playing? And Broncos and of course the big blockbuster

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at sun Corp the rematch, and there was obviously word

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during a week that Isaac was not going to play

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and that he was going to be dropped, and the

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team final ten ended up coming out and he was

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named on the bench, and we thought, okay, that's interesting.

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Thomas Jenkins got promoted into the starting side, and then

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we thought, okay, with a six man bench situation. Now

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on game day there is obviously a chance that Tago

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could come on for an injury or for a tactical reason.

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He didn't come on, so he basically sat that game out,

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which would have been his hundredth game. So he sort

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of got a good indication there that something wasn't right.

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That you know, milestone games at Penwrith are very important

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to that club, and for them not to acknowledge it

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during the week meant that he wasn't going to play.

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Isaac is named in the team again, but this time

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he's named on the bench to begin with. So Ivan's

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brought back that same starting side that did the damage

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against the Broncos and left Isaac again on the bench,

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sitting on ninety nine games, as you said, And we

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saw the game come and go on Saturday and Isaac

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was charming once again. So obviously gerdoes have asked Ivan

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some questions in that press conference against the Broncos. That's

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when he said to the to the media that hey,

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the reason he didn't play is because his preparation was

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compromised and it wasn't his fault. It was something along

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those lines, and it wasn't Isaac's fault that his preparation

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had been compromised. We don't know anything more regarding that, very.

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Speaker 2: Very cryptic there. Of course, he did play New South

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Wales Cup the.

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Speaker 3: Very next day he flew back from Queensland. Yeah, played cup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So whatever the issue was, it certainly didn't prevent

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him playing football, of course, yes, just not there in

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first grade. Now. Then, of course we've seen over the

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weekend or these stories emerge about a couple of things,

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the story out of the Bulldogs with Bronson Cherry and

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the fact that he has basically been dropped to reserve

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grade and then is apparently asking for a release. That

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sparked some back and forth with Gus Gould saying there

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was no release and he had breakfast with.

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Speaker 3: A wild Saturday afternoon when those rumors came out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure, and look, you know, obviously there's

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there's something in that story. But then Isaac Tago gets

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apparently there's a talk of a player swap. Now, this

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swap discussions, because there was even talk about the whole

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Zach Lomax thing involving him as well. Now, Ivan clearly

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was asked about this yesterday, as you would expect, he

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held his press conference for the Rooster's Going a bit

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earlier than than most coaches do, doesn't he gets it

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out of the way. Here's what Ivan Cleary had to

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's lying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's lying, so we love him.

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Speaker 1: That's Yeah, someone's made up a lie there, And yeah,

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Speaker 4: Someone someone is telling porky pies.

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Speaker 3: Porky pies is the You don't hear that often anymore,

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that phrase.

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Speaker 2: No you don't, Now I will. I will say this right,

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club or anything like that or swap with other players.

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I don't think personally the bronze and cherry thing had

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much legs. I don't think he's the It just doesn't

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come across to me as the kind of player that

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Penrith would need at the moment, even if they did

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move Isaac tago one, and you would presume that moving

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Isaac targo On results in re signing Thomas Jenkins, who's

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off contract at the end of the year, freeze up

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some money as well. But I will say this, maybe

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they are porky pies, maybe they are lies. But one

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thing that Ivan Cleary and the Panthers really just have

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to accept at the moment is that the speculation is

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going to happen because if you are not willing to

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say what these issues that prevent him from being in

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first grade are, you can't just expect the media and

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fans to go, oh, okay, no worries and just sit

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it out like you know. If you're not being super

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open in that space, then speculation is going to happen.

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given how many times you've seen this same story before.

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A player is not playing first grade, he would obviously

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be a first grader in twelve or thirteen other clubs.

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He's on big money. We're not going to continue to

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paying big money to sit on the bench, So eventually

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he gets you know, starts asking the question, and then

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we eventually see them move on. We've seen this story

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game within time and his Panthers and Ivan aren't doing

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anything to shut that down in terms of actually telling

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us what's going on. They have to expect the speculation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing is just very confusing. It's on

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the surface looks like it is form related because he's

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not playing first grade yet he's playing New South Wales Cup.

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initially in that press conference up in Brisbane was that

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out of his control, out of his control. Something was

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out of Isaac's control is the reason. So what does

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that mean? Okay, and then these whole rumors starting with

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players swaps all that. That's just natural. That's what's going

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to happen. You see one first grade I'm not getting time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Natural. And at the end of the day, the

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Bronz and Cherry story, like obviously Gus you know, denied

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all of that originally and whatever else, and you know,

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things unfold in terms of obviously managers start to go, well,

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I'm gonna sniff around and see if opportunities exist. They

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can't do that because of anty tampering and all these

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sort of rules, So they plant a story in the

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media that basically starts the conversations happening, and then that's

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how it's all about. Yeah, you know, and I might

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not have been the case here, but generally when you

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see these stories that don't have quotes, it's not journo's

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making it up. I know that a lot of fans

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like to say just making it up, and even Gus

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likes to lean in on that, just making it up. Unfortunately,

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player managers are often the horses in these these stories

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and create all this drama.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess Ivan was criticizing the media again

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this week for making making things up porky Pies as well.

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I mean, you know, I would say to Ivan, I'm

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sure he definitely doesn't listen to this podcast, but I

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would say to him, you know, like be transparent. I's

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not to the media, but to the fans. Because the

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fans are the ones that are that are doing all

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the speculating online and on Twitter and on Facebook, and

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they're the ones that are wondering what's happening. And you know,

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the media is the source to the fans. So just

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tell us he does a lot of driving of and

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I wouldn't rule out, and I hope he does. And

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we love you and we've both got your book. We

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appreciate it, and you know you've done so much for us.

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But yeah, that this is where some of these these

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stories and things stem from, is because we're just not

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Speaker 2: And that's that's exactly it. I don't actually have a

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problem if that's the way Panthers and I ever want to

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play it. Good on them, like all good like I

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have full and upmost respect for the way that they've

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run things over the last four or five years. However,

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going to have speculation, rumors, innuendo from fans in the

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media because if you're not actually saying what the problem is,

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and you have a premiership winning center who's played one

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hundred almost first grade games, who you know is you

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know obviously is super experienced and well liked within the

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squad and all of that, and he's playing reserve grade.

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Speaker 3: To absolutely absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's a look that we don't know. That's the

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short answer. There's no answer as to exactly what's happening there.

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But I look, let me ask you, this is Isaac

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Targo at the Panthers on the first of July twenty

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twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Just a straight out answer, straight out answer. Yes, I

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think he is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, you know what. I'm going to take the

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other view, and I'm going to say no because I've

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just seen this story too many times. And if he

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if he doesn't find his way back into first grade,

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and a million things could happen that could get him

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back into first grade, including of course injuries or things

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like that. But I just feel like he's not playing

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first grade. He's going to start asking a question, and

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to have interests from other clubs. He's certainly going to

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have interest from the likes of Perth and whatever else.

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I don't know if he's entertained that, but he's going

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to have offers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, So Peni's history. They don't release players

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that easily. Players have gone and signed with other clubs

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in the off season and they've tried to get them,

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and Matt Cameron and I haven't clear up not there's

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still a place for them in our team. We're not

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going to let them go until they actually have to go.

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the next few weeks and Isaac's back in the side

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just like that, like he would be the next man up.

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to keep their squad together because you just don't know

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a lot of other sports around the world, particularly in America.

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like all of these sort of things, or how long

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he's going to lease back from an injury. And it's interesting.

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information gap that exists at the moment the NRL and

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they're fixing all trying to fix all these other things

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set restarts and all that, and there's actually a pretty

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big gap there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, transparency stops all these media rumors and stories.

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You know, it would it would like how long have

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we been talking about the new South Wales Cup coach Troy?

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As of now as a recording, we still don't know.

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Even though we were told by some good sources last

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week that it would be announced, we still don't know

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who the Cup coach is. Officially, there might be one.

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I'm sure there is one, but we don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and look, I haven't mentioned it wasn't in

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that audio there, but I haven't. Sort of then deviated

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to a wider issue about player transfers and the fact

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that yeah, yea, yeah, there's no dedicated window. I just

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want to say, a dedicated window is still not going

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to fix the innuendo and speculation about players leaving. It'll

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just it's just that it will actually happen in those

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dedicated periods. But the rumors are still going to happen

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for the whole for the whole year. And also I

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would say the rumors and speculation are a good thing.

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These are the things we want to talk about in terms,

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which is sad else but like it's better than talking

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about some off field scandal or else. Like that's just

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it's that's the business.

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Speaker 3: And I guess the clubs would want us to be

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talking about the footy and the games. And then role

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probably doesn't care because if we're talking about rumors and

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also all sorts of other stuff, that's right for them

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and it gets them more exposure.

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Speaker 2: Or we don't know what's happening there, but we will

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see in relation to Isaac Tago and who knows, you

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might even play against the Roosters on Friday. We'll have

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to wait and see. Now, the Panthers are on fire,

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of course, two from two to start the season. They've

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beaten the Brisbane Broncos and the Kernella Sharks have only

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conceded one try across the last two weeks. So are

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the Panthers back.

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Speaker 3: Well, it looks like it, doesn't it. I think I

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said to you the other day, Troy, I'd like to see.

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I like to judge them after about five rounds. We've

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obviously got roosters this week, Power of the week after

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Storm the week after that. So after five rounds, if

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they're five and five and oh, then I would definitely

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say they're back. But of course, an awesome start. I

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mean two solid teams in the Broncos and the Sharks,

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like they're no you know, they're no mugs those teams,

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I mean, the Storm on top of the table. But

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they beat Para and they beat the Dragons, so it's

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a little bit skewed there. But Panather played two strong

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teams and I nely conceded one try and scored twenty

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six points in both of them, so very very impressive victories.

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What did you think of the game again, it's the

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Sharks in Bathurst.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I thought it was a really good performance,

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so I didn't think it was all that scrappy, despite

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what that journal said to Ivan and the presser, which

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certainly trigger button there for Ivan. Look for me again,

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it was the defense. And it's not just the defense

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that's that's not the issue. It's the fact that elsewhere

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in the competition, defenses out the window at the moment. Yeah,

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you know, we're seeing points scored everywhere, We're seeing set

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restarts everywhere, We're seeing you know, a lot of points

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in games. And the Panthers back to their old ways

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of that kind of twenty one twenty three period where

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they were conceding one or two tries again pretty much regularly.

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So the look they say defense wins comps. But I

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think the way the game is currently and I'm sure

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things will settle down over the next sort of month

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or two, but defense, he's gonna win this comp And

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and Penrith looked pretty pretty hungry and defending, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, so good. Look, obviously, we remember back

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to last year. This time last year, they were conceding

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so many points. Yeah, I think they played the Roosters

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in round two and yeah, the Roosters put thirty to

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forty points twelve dollars, and they were they were outside

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has had a bunch of plumbers in the team and

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and they absolutely they shocked the Panthers that that night.

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But I think that's that's the key, was the defense.

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We just just totally went away last year, totally totally

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out the window. But that's what Penrith have built their

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four premierships on, is the defense, and to see that

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back is a huge thing for them. It's just I

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just don't know how they were able to do it.

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They just did. They just flick a switch like this

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is the same team that ran out last year that

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weren't defending very well, and now they're backed and they're

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just defending like they're you know, well twenty two Panthers again.

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Speaker 2: I think the benefit obviously have a much better preseason

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and also of course of that hunger returning a little

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bit after going out in the preliminary final last year.

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Nathan Cleary also mentioned in the postmatch interview on Saturday

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Night with Fox about how many players it wasn't just

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about Vegas and World Club challenge, you know, situations of

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previous years that have that have had to deal with.

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But they were dealing with probably more niggling injuries in

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the in the opening period as well. But we're also

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seeing you know a lot of questions and or fears

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we had have been relaxed, like Dylan Edwards obviously has

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come back in some of your best form. We were

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a bit worried about where Dylan was potentially at, but

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it isn't just going back to the old ways because

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we're seeing Penter at the Bowl as well. Isaiao hasn't

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played eighty minutes in the first two games. You know,

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he's a traditional eighty minute player, so we're seeing him

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get that break now. So we're definitely seeing some changes

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to Ivan's tactics. But yeah, and we'll see, we'll see

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where things go. You did mention, of course this Friday

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night Panthers Roosters. It is at Alian Stadium, six o'clock,

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so not the Glamor Times loot.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough one for fans to get too, that's

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for sure, especially from fans out in Penrith Way.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually mixed about the six pm game. I was

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hearing a debate on radio yesterday and they were debating

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this six pm game is terrible and all of this

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sort of stuff, and it was a bit of back

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and forth on it. Because I hated the six pm

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game initially, I like it now people were saying and

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this needs to be the Warriors only, and these sort

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of things. But actually, like a game in the center

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of Sydney, six o'clock is a good time slot in

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terms of if you're in the city, you know, and

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it's not just about roosters fans, so you want to

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go see see a game. I can go straight after

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work and go to this game. So maybe it's not

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terrible this time slot, and I'm happy for it. I'll

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be home by six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, obviously for you know, because we're in away

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fan and we're probably going to watch the game on TV.

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But if we were to, if we traditionally finished at

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five o'clock on a Friday, that's impossible to get to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, it is, you know, but you know,

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this game is not for it's not not for crowds

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and crowds.

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Speaker 3: It's TV game.

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Speaker 2: It is a TV game, the pub games originally, but yeah,

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TV game. And and look, Andrew Boss actually made the

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point during this debate. It was on his radio show,

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and you know, they were saying crowds, crowds, crowds and

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VOSSI and he made the declaration, Hey, I work for

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Fox Sports. But like at the end of the day,

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the broadcasters are the main source of income for the game.

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We get to have a say on these things. And

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obviously there's a benefit for the six pm game being

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on Fox because they hold hold the audience or at

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least try to hold the audience for the eight o'clock game,

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which they have a competition on with Nine. So but yes,

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it is this Friday night, six pm. It is the

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one hundred and ninth meeting between the Panthers and the Roosters.

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The Roosters have won sixty one the Panthers forty six,

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a lot of catching up to. The Panthers won the

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one that mattered, of course, in two thousand and three. Yeah,

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this is the two thousand and three Grand Final. And actually,

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of course the Panthers and the Roosters had some good

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battles during the premiership year periods and Panthers generally got

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on top in those games. But yeah, look, how do

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you see this one going. The Roosters of course beat

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South last Friday night, after all the Alex Johnston fan fair.

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They were the ones who are probably through all of

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that better.

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Speaker 3: So how are we, yeah thinking, I think they're still

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fighting their feet the Roosters. Obviously, we know we're probably

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going to get from Penrith like that defense is just

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back as we know, and their attack is building off

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the back of the defense. But the Roosters, I think

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they're just fighting their feet. I mean, yeah, yeah, they

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had a good win against the Roosters, of course, the

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Rabbit O's of course, But the week before they lost

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it the Warriors, which you know, no one really saw coming.

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So I think with Daily Talor Evans and the Sam

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Walker partnership, that's still fighting its feet. But yeah, there's

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still They're still going to be a tough team. I

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think there's still going to be a big threat on

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Friday Night.

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad they beat out because I didn't want

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to be.

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Speaker 3: Even hunger they too, you'd expect.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's say, yeah, look at this, look it

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should be a pretty entertaining game with plenty of points score.

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But I think it will be once again defense like

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whoever defends better, yeah, is probably going to win the contest.

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The Panthers still, as far as we're aware, still unlikely

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to see unlest Liam Henry there, Liam Martin. We're recording

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this just before the team's come out, so you can

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obviously head over to NROL dot com and see the

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team list, but we're hoping Liam Martin will be back.

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If I want to make a prediction two hours before

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the team list, he'll be number twenty or something and

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you know we'll do the classic bring him in late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Leam Martin does come back, which we expect

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him to. Who's going to not sary drop? But who

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couldn't they see put in that because I think Billy

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Phillips needs to stay somewhere. I think he's impressed so

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so far after the last two weeks being lots of raps,

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I think he needs to be there in the side. Obviously,

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Jack Cogg we're told he's one, so that might make

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things a bit easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, well, I guess so, or they just bring

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that or Freddy Lussick into that spot. So at fourteen

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we'll find out. And even when we do have a team.

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Speaker 3: List, it's hard to tell any it's hard to tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's it's a question of whether obviously we

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may start Liam Martin off the bench just for this game.

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But if we don't, then yeah, it's probably you know,

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is it Luke Garner who comes back onto the onto

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the bench, and then it's probably maybe it's Killanie Going

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who's out, probably because you still you need there. So

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I'd say that's the that's the the ultimate plan is

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that Kilane Going is not going to be in that

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in that team regularly, and Billy Phillips probably Oh look,

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he probably hangs around until what Liam Henry comes back

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in a few weeks and then.

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Speaker 3: What would you do with when he comes back? You

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just take Billy Phillips out, even though Henry is off

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the Perth next year. So Sorenson this of course as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he is. Yeah, look, it will be interesting. I

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don't know what I do, but it will be interesting

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to see what Ivan does there in terms of the

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whole future proofing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Concept, although I feel like in previous years we've always

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just stuck with no. Well, let's just focus on this year.

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So we haven't done a Jason Ryles at Parramatta. We're

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basically leaving Dylan Brown out. We've gone with no, no,

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whatever's the best for the team this year. Yeah, so

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I imagine he will do the same thing, but that

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he's going to see some good players miss out.

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Speaker 3: It's a blessing to have, you know, at this stage

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it's a healthy team. Part from obviously Cogger being out

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with the head knock. It's good to see, all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Panthers roost is now. The Panthers are the favorites

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for this one, expecting fine conditions, and he's of course

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exclusive to Fox League. Who are you tipping in this one?

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Speaker 3: Tipping the Panthers to win? I think, hmmm? Would I say?

473
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,960
Last week? I think I sipped Penrith by twelve or

474
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,200
something like that, and you were shocked. So I'm going

475
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,359
to say Panths to win. I'm going to say by

476
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,759
fourteen points this week?

477
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:05,519
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well I'm going to go Penrith by eight. Okay,

478
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,920
but jeez, the biggest stat. I know it's only two

479
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,920
weeks this season, but average points conceded so far this

480
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,880
year Penrith three per game and the Rooster's thirty per game? Thirty?

481
00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 4: Does that.

482
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: Penish should be winning it? But anything happens in.

483
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: These They've had a good record at the New Orleans

484
00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:26,680
Stadium Penrithink. The last few times have been I know

485
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:28,240
we went there a couple of years ago, and then

486
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:31,519
the last year they played there, you know, during that

487
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,000
time where they were very up and down, they managed

488
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,400
to win.

489
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,039
Speaker 2: Actually won forty to twelve that game last year, and.

490
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: That was in the midst of the crisis as well.

491
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,519
Speaker 2: It was ye, Daniel Tupio scored I think in the

492
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:44,480
third minute and it was like, oh, this is We're

493
00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:47,000
in trouble here. And then I think paul Ala Moti

494
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:49,720
might have got a double first half double in that one.

495
00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:54,720
All right, Panthers roosters, don't miss it on Saturday Friday night,

496
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six o'clock kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Nathan. Last Thursday, I think it was I sent a

512
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,880
message in a little group chat we're in I said this,

513
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,000
I think there's a stadium announcement happening tonight, and speculation

514
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,119
was emerging that we were going to suddenly stop the

515
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,160
build and everyone had to bring their red seat back

516
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,880
put everything back in place. But no, what we saw was,

517
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,119
of course, hallow World announced as the new stadium naming

518
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:21,160
rights partner. So from next year Penworth Park, Penrith Stadium,

519
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,799
whatever you want to call it, will be called Hello

520
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000
World Stadium, and it's a five year deal. What do

521
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,759
you think of the name. I don't think anyone's ever

522
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,279
going to be one hundred percent sold on a corporate

523
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,279
name for a stadium.

524
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I like the name. As a big

525
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,079
travel guy myself, I've definitely utilized Hello World's services in

526
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,400
the past, and I just think it's good. It's something different,

527
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,200
I think, I said to you guys, it sort of

528
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,759
aligns with obviously Western Sydney Airport opening up later this year,

529
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:49,599
so it's going to be a Penrith and Western City

530
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,680
is going to be very travel focused hotel new hotels

531
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,640
popping up all over the region, a lot of a

532
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,319
lot of new tourists coming into town. So Hello World,

533
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,480
just I don't know, it sort of fits with the

534
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:03,839
with what's happening out here in Western Sydney.

535
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: I guess do we think it's better or worse than

536
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:08,279
Ocean Protect Stadium?

537
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

538
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot better. I think it's a

539
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,160
lot better. I mean Ocean Protect sort of worked with

540
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119
Cronulla too than being on the beaches. But no, I

541
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,640
do like it. I just had a quick look there

542
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,440
and there is actually only one hallow World in the

543
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,440
Penwrith area and that's in EMU Planes. The next nearest

544
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,640
is in Glenbrook, and there's one in Richmond. So they

545
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,000
might need to open maybe a Harlow World at the

546
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:29,720
at the club or something, or maybe somewhere at the

547
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:33,000
at the stadium. I pop up Hollow World, because you know,

548
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,119
if you're the main stadium in your in your city

549
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,680
is going to be named after it, you probably should

550
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960
have another store or two perhaps potentially. But look, it

551
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,680
was it was a good announcement I think, I mean,

552
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,359
there's been so much conjecture about the roof and all

553
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,160
the other announcements of the government's made over the past

554
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,119
few months, but I thought this one came through fairly

555
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,400
positively from most people.

556
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: You know what I thought of when I announced what

557
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:21,599
was this? Of course the John Law's theme song Hello World.

558
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course, and the famous Subtle Club theme

559
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,240
song also has that Hello World in it as well.

560
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,039
So yeah, lots of people have been making a few

561
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,839
of those those jokes over the past week, but all

562
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,200
in all, I think it's a it's a good name.

563
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: A lot of comments on social media it's always Penrith Park.

564
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,680
To me, yes, we get that, It's always Brookie Over

565
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,759
whatever it is. That's fine. We are in the modern world.

566
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,400
Of course, if you can get you know, a few

567
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,440
hundred thousand dollars a year or whatever it ends up

568
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,559
being out of a sponsorship, of course you take it.

569
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:54,119
And it is what it is. And we've dealt with

570
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720
this for many years at Penrith, from Pepper Stadium to

571
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,519
Blue Bet to Credit Union in Australia Stadium. At one

572
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:04,279
point like it is what it is, you know, you

573
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:07,440
don't have to love it, but everyone should surely understand it.

574
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,880
But probably an interesting thing out of this is this

575
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119
is one of the first examples of none of this

576
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720
money is going to Penrith. The Hollow World sponsorship is

577
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,440
purely sitting obviously with venues New South Wales, whereas Blue

578
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Bet for example, all that revenue would have gone back

579
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,119
to Penrith. So the first example of where the stadium

580
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,440
sits in that regard.

581
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the government, we're never going to get a

582
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,480
betting company as their sponsored. I don't know if that's

583
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,400
allowed or not, but that was never going to happen,

584
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,799
so we sort of knew it wasn't going to be,

585
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,440
you know, one of the betting giants, So yeah, it

586
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,240
was good that they've got something a little bit different.

587
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
And it's a five year deal Troy, So unless something

588
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,160
crazy happens and hallow World collapses, then it's locked in

589
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,279
for five years and potentially longer. It could be one

590
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:52,039
of those long term ones like an Alians or one

591
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:52,839
of those or a core.

592
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can see them doing a big travel package,

593
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,519
you know, flying to Western Sydney.

594
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, get it. Oh yeah, there's so manys, that's what

595
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,759
I think. I think they've they've thought about this really smartly.

596
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,079
Whoever whoever did the deal?

597
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,359
Speaker 2: All right, Well Hello World Stadium coming up next year

598
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,920
where there will be ten home games for the Panthers.

599
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,839
Ten only ten, Yes, so the Panther's obviously in Bathist

600
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,759
next year. But also the deal they did with the

601
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,319
NROL about Magic Round was actually for three years, so

602
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,279
they will be the home team for Magic Round again

603
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:27,240
next year and then they'll look at eleven home games.

604
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,400
So in its opening year, Hello World will host ten

605
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,839
Panthers games and according to the government, some motocross concerts,

606
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
all this sort of stuff. You you told me that

607
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,559
you suspect that the Panthers, Isaiaho and Nathan Cleary will

608
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,119
not be the star attractions at the opening. You're you're

609
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,559
thinking a concert is going to open the.

610
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think I think that's a possibility because

611
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,160
they won't be able to run any concerts during the

612
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,839
Rugby League season, and just they don't they don't do it.

613
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,720
They don't do it at any com banks.

614
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Yah.

615
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alian's is your core. They do those out of

616
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:02,000
out of season, and so I'm thinking if the stadium

617
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,319
is ready to go by the end of the year,

618
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:07,799
which is what they're predicting. They could very well have

619
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240
a open it up with a huge concert, you know,

620
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:13,000
and it'll just stick it to everybody who were so

621
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,480
the naysays, he said, what concerts are you going to

622
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,440
have there? Don't you worry? They all get someone out

623
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,400
whether they continue with the with the big names over

624
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
the years, but I feel for that first one, a

625
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,240
big international artist could come out and do it and

626
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,079
open a new stadium, because that would be pretty cool

627
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,319
for an artist to open a new stadium, regardless what

628
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,480
you think of it. So that's my prediction as a

629
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,279
concert in say January February, late January February, just before

630
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:39,359
the footy season starts.

631
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,119
Speaker 2: Okay, you know that. I'm sure that this band has

632
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,799
been lifted. But concerts are actually banned from Penro Stadium.

633
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,359
Remember that there was in the eighties, Yeah the Oils,

634
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,880
yeah Oil, Yeah, I think it was not Oil. And

635
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920
they had a midweek concert, yeah, the game on the weekend,

636
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,079
and by the time the you know, they got all

637
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:59,519
the concert goers out and had a look at the

638
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,640
stadium glass everywhere there was all sorts of.

639
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: Things and this was probably before they put they put

640
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,559
like mats or something down that back then was probably

641
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,079
probably just were standing on the grass.

642
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was actually here. It is May seven,

643
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,400
nineteen eighty three, so middle of the season, and it

644
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,480
was the jobs Every home should have one tour and

645
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920
the event is highly remembered for the massive crowd, but

646
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,839
also the significant damage it caused to the venue, which

647
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,039
ultimately saw concerts banned from the Penris Stadium turf. So

648
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,880
forty two years later, as far as I'm aware, concerts

649
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,799
are now bad.

650
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: That was midnight or wasn't it?

651
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Yep, it was midnight.

652
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,559
Speaker 3: Let's get midnight all back to open the new stadium.

653
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
There's a few members still alive. I believe it a

654
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,640
garret at least. So that's that's that could be good

655
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,640
synergy like I make good.

656
00:31:49,880 --> 00:32:02,759
Speaker 2: I make good. Lad that's all right. So last Friday night,

657
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,759
great scenes at Alian's Stadium, where, of course Alex Johnson

658
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,039
became Australian rugby league's greatest try scorer. This was the moment,

659
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,000
could it be there?

660
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: Mitchell down the sunlight, Johnsy's man, Johnston for the club.

661
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,039
Speaker 2: Johnston for history too. Thirteen Alex Johnston has done it.

662
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:34,119
Speaker 5: Two one hundred and thirteen tries. Alex Johnston standards alone

663
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,880
has Australian rugby leagues greatest try to scoring and the

664
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,720
fans can't be checked off the.

665
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Fair They certainly couldn't fans onto the field. Great scenes,

666
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,400
I think any any knack who's saying it was it

667
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,400
was great. It was.

668
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: It was brilliant. I mean that's what we wanted. I mean,

669
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,200
I think the NURL probably secretly wanted to do but

670
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,480
due to legalities, they're probably like they probably had to

671
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,839
put those disclaimers on there, but no, it was perfect.

672
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,720
And seeing those overhead shots with the drones, just seeing

673
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,240
them all crowd in and run in it was. It

674
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,480
was awesome and just got me thinking like if that

675
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:13,039
happened that Combank in a Penrith match, would we have

676
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,160
run out? Like you're very high up in combat, Paul,

677
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,039
thing would have taken you two hours to get to

678
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:18,400
the field, but I'm pretty close.

679
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Like if Alex Johnson had run out and then against combat.

680
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I don't know what would you

681
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:25,720
have done.

682
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,039
Speaker 2: Look, I probably wouldn't have run out, but I wouldn't

683
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,799
have warn against everyone running out. I think it was

684
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,920
great that it happened against the Roosters. There are tribals. Yeah,

685
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,960
absolutely brilliant. And of course it scored two tries like

686
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,559
we didn't know it was gonna happen, and it happened

687
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:43,079
so quick in.

688
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:44,759
Speaker 3: The second half. We just came back from the second

689
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:46,480
half and I turned my iPad on it was forty

690
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,839
seconds in. Yeah, he's over and then they're back in

691
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,519
the sheds again.

692
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:53,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and cranky Wayne afterwards. You know, I thought that

693
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,839
was actually poor form from Wayne saying, oh, no, it

694
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:57,839
shouldn't have happened. Whatever our shots A sitting right next

695
00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:58,000
to you.

696
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked like he felt like, yeah, he had

697
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,839
something to do with it.

698
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: Anyway. They were great scenes, but it did get me thinking, yes,

699
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:12,280
you know what Penrith moment could see us storm the field? Okay,

700
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,239
you know, now, who knows, maybe Tom Jenkins goes on

701
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,840
to break Alie Sjohnson's record. I don't know, But is

702
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,760
there a moment, Is there a Penrith moment you can

703
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,199
imagine that we're going to storm the field in you know,

704
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,920
in the next ten years for example.

705
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got me thinking, Troy, I mean, you say,

706
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,679
Tom Jenkins, I think the person that could do it.

707
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440
I mean, if he continues his trajectory in the game,

708
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
and he's so so young at the moment is case

709
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,000
in McLean if he's playing for another fifteen sixteen years,

710
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,360
he's nineteen at the moments. If he plays to thirty five,

711
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,079
he's already got twenty tries under his belt, you know,

712
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,840
in a season. So if someone like him could, he

713
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,480
could actually do it. But something that might happen a

714
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,679
little bit sooner. Troy's is Nathan Cleary breaking the points

715
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,400
scoring record. So he's currently on seventeen hundred and forty

716
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,039
seven points, which sits him in fourteenth spot on that ladder.

717
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, because I'm looking, I think Cameron Smith.

718
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:10,679
Speaker 3: Cameron Smith's got the record on two seven hundred and

719
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:11,119
eighty six.

720
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: So did not storm the field when Cameron Smith broke

721
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:15,119
as record?

722
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,159
Speaker 3: No, they did not. I don't know why. Maybe did

723
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,119
that happen in Melbourne. Maybe they just didn't do it

724
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,000
down there. I'm not sure. But that's his He essentially

725
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,599
Nathan's a thousand points away, so he's still a fair

726
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,760
few years off at least five, right Adam.

727
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: He stays in rugby league, every chance that Nathan Cleary

728
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,880
will become.

729
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,559
Speaker 3: And that's and that's what Nathan's risking leaving rugby league

730
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,480
is a lot of these records, and Adam Reynolds he's

731
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:41,119
the only other active player that's close, so he's second

732
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,400
on the list at two five three six. Now Adam

733
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,159
Reynolds is retiring from Brisbane at the end of the

734
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,239
year from the NRL, so he's two hundred and fifty off.

735
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,039
Does Adam Reynolds catch Cameron Smith this season?

736
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: No, Adam doesn't pay.

737
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so that record's safe. Yeah, okay, so the only

738
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,559
nearest persons Nathan Yep. Yeah, I think that's worthy. I mean,

739
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,760
I know it's not the try scoring record, but by

740
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,159
the time Nathan hits it, Cameron Smith made this record

741
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,000
in twenty twenty, Say Nathan hits it in another five years,

742
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,000
it's going to be twenty thirty twenty thirty one. That's

743
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400
eleven years has gone past. I think that's worthy of

744
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,079
And Panthers fans running out.

745
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Penis down twenty four to four at Hello World Stadium

746
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,880
in twenty thirty thirty one, and so we've just scored

747
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,559
a try and Nathical lands a conversion from in front.

748
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,480
We do make it twenty four to six and we're

749
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:28,840
all on.

750
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,079
Speaker 3: Absolutely, He's been one of the greatest rugby League players

751
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,119
of all time. In Cameron Smith. The record is like

752
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,199
over a decade, all old by then, so I think

753
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,320
that's enough time has passed where you can celebrate something

754
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,719
like that.

755
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: The other one that could happen is not during a game,

756
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,719
but if this group stays together, or the core of

757
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,440
this group stays together, j we're gonna have some big

758
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,280
farewells in about a decade's time, the likes of Ao

759
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,639
and Nathan Cleary and whatever else that you can imagine.

760
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,039
Maybe some postgame.

761
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: The field, yes, for sure, for sure, but a storming situation,

762
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,599
I think it's got to be during again.

763
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: You'll call it Cleary will. I'm going to say that

764
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,960
in the whether it was when Hazard l Maser broke

765
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,480
the record Andrew Joe like all of them, but it's

766
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,000
never happened, so who knows.

767
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,199
Speaker 3: But now it's never happened to Rugbylly. But now we

768
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,320
have a precedent set with Alex Johnson and the Fiends

769
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,679
running on the field, because that's really the only other record.

770
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,760
Nathan clearly owns the Panthers record right for most points

771
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,840
in club history, so he's owned that we didn't run

772
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,559
on the field for that, that's fine. But to get

773
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,840
it all time, all time in Australian rugby league, I

774
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,800
don't know. I think that's that's pretty cool.

775
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: Actually became Karen Smith became the highest points scorer back

776
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,960
in twenty nineteen was when he broke the record, right,

777
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,079
So he actually then obviously went on to add to

778
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,960
that significantly until he played his last game for the

779
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000
against the Panthers in the twenty twenty Grand five. Let's

780
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,960
just have a listen to this.

781
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 4: Waiting waiting backout and it goes to that man cammeron

782
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,280
Monster around Morgan.

783
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: Okay, the balls inside ten sounds not a quick tat

784
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,880
we're waiting.

785
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: They might level up here wait for it. So what

786
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,280
you are hearing is that it was just a random

787
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,800
penalty goal that saw Cameron Smith become the greatest point

788
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,559
scorer of all time in a few minutes into this game.

789
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:36,239
This this game down at Amy Amy Park.

790
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:40,039
Speaker 4: J j M for Barbara, Jasper, Jada and Matilda.

791
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,079
Speaker 2: On the red nikes. Obviously big build up here on nine.

792
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,679
Speaker 3: Is there any is any crowd there.

793
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: Point scorer in premiership history and there's the record there.

794
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: It is straight to brake the kids.

795
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: That's actually not in, but in.

796
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 4: An amazing achievement in this extraordinary career and a great

797
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,199
show a sportsmanship from Gavin Cooper.

798
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,199
Speaker 2: He's got his standing ovation from JT on the sideline.

799
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,840
But that's it. Then we're back in. Yeah, we'll see

800
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,239
what happens.

801
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: I hope Nathan gets it because I'll be running out

802
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,920
in the field. They can find me.

803
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: Nineteen nineties rugby league, Nathan, you and I.

804
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: This is where we fell in love with the game.

805
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,599
Speaker 2: I fell in love with the game, and I want

806
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,639
to mention something about the nineties in just a minute.

807
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,119
But I thought what we'd have a look at this

808
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:44,679
week is a nineties rugby league memory that's understandably gone.

809
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,159
We don't necessarily want to back, but something that you discard.

810
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:50,000
You if I could have this back for a day.

811
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,559
Didn't realize when the last time it happened was the time.

812
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,440
You know, like, there a nineties memory for you that

813
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:58,519
you love, And I'm going to tell you what mine is.

814
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Mine is around the grounds on the radio broadcast so

815
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,760
obviously long before Fox, Tell and whatever else, and we

816
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,679
had games that were on at the same time three

817
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,480
or four games at once on a Saturday or Sunday,

818
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,440
and you know, if Penrith were playing, you'd literally have

819
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,360
to listen to mainly in Newcastle and every five or

820
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,719
ten minutes, you know, Ray Hadley would go around the grounds.

821
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280
Don Moseley would be on deck and you get a

822
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,800
score update and so you'd literally like wait another ten

823
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,440
minutes before you knew the score. There was no other

824
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:32,239
way that. The next thing that came along was like

825
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,719
live text scores on websites, you know, like League Unlimited

826
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,320
and those sort of sites. Our League dot Com was

827
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:40,760
big for it for a while, but yeah, we don't

828
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880
have it anymore because all the games are obviously on

829
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,880
at different times. But I love it. I loved around

830
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,280
the ground.

831
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember.

832
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

833
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,159
Speaker 3: I used to be a big listener of the continuous

834
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:53,000
call team and that's how we have how you find out,

835
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:56,559
you know, like over to Penrith Stadium and Don Moseley,

836
00:40:56,639 --> 00:41:01,840
you know you got forty four ARSHO sixty and that's

837
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920
how you found out. Then ten minutes later you'd get

838
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,760
another update and it was It was a good memory

839
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,960
to have, but I'm glad that's not around anymore.

840
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: The best part of it was when if it was close,

841
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,400
but the game that Hadley was calling wasn't close. And

842
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,320
sometimes old Don Moseley or whoever to recall finished I

843
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,320
call the final couple of minutes of the game, which

844
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,880
was which was good? What about you?

845
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, it was a tough one to answer, Sory,

846
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,280
because a lot of those memories have either faded or

847
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,920
I just I keep forgetting. But I guess the one

848
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,039
thing that I absolutely loved from nineties rugby league and

849
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,719
that I was addicted to, like like no tomorrow was

850
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,000
the Footage Show. And I know that that went into

851
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,679
the two thousands, but it kicked off in ninety four,

852
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,559
and I think that's when it was in its heyday,

853
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,199
when you had Blocker Stirlo, Fatty Ray Hadley and then

854
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880
you know Matt mccoat and all those crazy characters that

855
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960
you wouldn't be allowed to have these days. Mario Fennick

856
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,679
would come on and just those Thursday nights, nine thirty pm.

857
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,079
Sometimes I wouldn't make it because I'd fall asleep. I

858
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,360
would miss the whole entire show. But when I did,

859
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:05,119
it was just I was just obsessed with the Footy Show.

860
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,679
And I know, you know, times have since passed and

861
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,519
with you know, some things are outdated. But I don't

862
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,920
know if I could have a special footage show again,

863
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,800
back with the original cast, which they're all still alive.

864
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:20,440
I presume. I'm thinking at the moment they're all still alive.

865
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,760
They could do it. It could happen, you.

866
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: Know what they should. We should be bringing the Footy

867
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,280
Show back just for one more.

868
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: We revived Hate Saturday always yeah, like.

869
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: And of course you're not going to have your Matt

870
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,519
mccoats and whatever else, but they'd all be able to

871
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,000
do it. It would be great. Yes, Thursday Night's nine thirty.

872
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,440
Every Thursday Night nine thirty, microwave popcorn with my Footy

873
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,159
Show snack.

874
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like did you ever get to go in

875
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,719
the studio audience?

876
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,159
Speaker 2: Yes? I did a little bit later, like I definitely,

877
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,639
I do remember. Definitely Aaron Mullin was around at this point.

878
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,440
Not the the weird last year of the Footy Show

879
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,320
where shed have a chair at some point.

880
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: I think by Ryan didn't have a chair, very bizarre.

881
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:02,599
It was like Girds was on there as well.

882
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,199
Speaker 2: Yeahah, I didn't have enough chairs left to Channel nine

883
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:07,920
for everyone. It was on the panel, So I did

884
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:10,000
but Mullam was there. I think she was the host.

885
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,360
Maybe that was in the year she was coming on

886
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,159
just to do some news updates or something. But yeah,

887
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:14,719
I did it once.

888
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,039
Speaker 3: I never went to the studio, but I did go

889
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,639
to like one of those Grand Final Footy shows spectaculars

890
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,760
at like Cutos Bank Arena or something like that or

891
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,800
the Entertainment Center. So but yeah, I noticed in just

892
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,000
in recent months Fatty en Stirlo have been doing the

893
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,320
pub circuit and there are Panthers a few months ago

894
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,320
doing a doing a show. So I'm not sure what

895
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,760
those were about. Maybe they're just reminiscing about memories and

896
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,280
stuff like that. So they are still, you know, on

897
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,559
the scene. There's no reason why that, you know, they

898
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:41,679
can't do something like that.

899
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,119
Speaker 4: Now.

900
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: Just another thing to come out of the Alex Johnston night.

901
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:50,559
And also the fact that the Roosters are playing Penrith

902
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:55,239
on on Friday night. Is this brew haha about the

903
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,280
scoreboard where the Roosters put up that South instead of

904
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,199
putting South's or the South logo, I just put visiting team.

905
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,559
And it's created a ridiculous situation where sous are throwing

906
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,840
the toys out of the cot their chairman Nick Papaces

907
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,800
on the blow up. The roosters are apologizing now, I

908
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,719
think that the NRL's involved, what everyone's involved. Now, Can

909
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,119
I just say that was brilliant a right, And here's

910
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,519
why it's brilliant. Why. You know, when we talk about

911
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,360
nineties and whatever, So I grew up with rugby league

912
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,760
in the nineties and the early two thousands, going to

913
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,760
all these away games generally for the first time, I'm

914
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,880
seeing these grounds and every away game it was a

915
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,000
new experience because we didn't play the games really in

916
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,159
these big stadiums and whatever else. And they were all

917
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,840
independently run. So every time you go to a ground,

918
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,000
they did things differently. You know. There was a different

919
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,880
variety of food, there was a different way they did pregame,

920
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,440
The screen was different. Some grounds were terrible, some were great,

921
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,920
all different, you know things you had hills at some

922
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:07,000
not at others. So everything was a unique experience. We

923
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,480
are so obsessed now with making going to the footy

924
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:16,639
this sterile, repeated playing experience, and I just loved that

925
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:18,679
they did something a bit different. And what I mean

926
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,920
by that is, you look at like Glenn Hawk, great guy,

927
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,519
here's a ground announcer for Bible six clubs. So you know,

928
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,920
you go to an away game, it's no different hearing

929
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,760
the same voices of pen yeah, you know. And also

930
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,880
that Equals doesn't quite have that passion you know, for

931
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,679
any of his or he might support one of them.

932
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,719
But I think it's the same playlist must be an

933
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Rreel approved playlist. It's got you know, take my own

934
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,039
Country roads on it and all these songs. It's the

935
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,280
same music. It's the same way we're showing a team list. Generally,

936
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440
it's the same way we've got the scoreboard on there.

937
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,320
The venues New South Wales operated venues are generally the

938
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,599
same options at the bar. There might be some food

939
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,360
or differences whatever, but essentially we've created we seem cessed

940
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,920
with this sterile experience. And I loved that the Roosters

941
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,480
just did something a bit different to make it that

942
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:08,159
you should feel unwelcome as a as a visiting fan.

943
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960
I loved going too a stadium where it made you

944
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,639
feel unwelcome.

945
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,159
Speaker 3: Now, well, now I know Roosters have apologized for it,

946
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:14,800
so I don't presume they're going to do this, But

947
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:16,800
are they going to have a visiting team for Penrith

948
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,719
this weekend.

949
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: To go back to Penrian. They should have Westy's up there.

950
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,320
They should like that. I'd be fine with that. It's

951
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,599
like saying if I go to sun Corp and it's

952
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:31,280
suddenly that for an Origin game. As a Blues fan,

953
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,840
part of that experience is feeling unwelcome and not legitimately

954
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,199
scared or anything, weren't safe, but unwelcome and feeling like

955
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,280
Jesus is this is full on, not like, oh, we

956
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,679
need to make the Blues feel a bit more comfortable.

957
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: Like no, no, it's sport we're talking about. We're not

958
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,079
ostracizing religions or ethnicities and stuff like that, and you're

959
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,440
not call it but like it's it's it's sport. It's

960
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,159
a sporting team. If it's Australia versus the Kiwis, we're

961
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,960
not saying Australia the other team, We'll say the key. Yeah,

962
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,039
well that's you know, these are rivalries, These are what

963
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,079
the game's built on. And who was offended by that?

964
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Definitely he was actually offended And all the Rabbinos fans.

965
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: Online, sorry, guys, are you serious? Like, come on, this

966
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960
isn't rugby league, this is sport they didn't put losers

967
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
on there, they put visiting team. You go to some

968
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,760
general other grounds and they usually have home side visitors,

969
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,360
like they don't even have the names for for the

970
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,840
different teams. That's ridiculous. I can't believe that I didn't

971
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,400
know that they that people were upset by.

972
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I believe the NL even got involved day

973
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,920
operations or something.

974
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:38,039
Speaker 3: It's a bit of fun.

975
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:40,199
Speaker 2: Unless we should be doing more of it. We should

976
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:42,239
be making teams feel unwell.

977
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,559
Speaker 3: You want to feel uncomfortable, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

978
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: You know, you want to make it home. And as

979
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,280
I said, you know, rugby league is going to go

980
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,760
through this period. I'm sure it's coming when crowds are

981
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,360
going to not be as good as they have been

982
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,280
the last few years because it's going to get more

983
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,559
expensive to go to the footy and it's going to

984
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,320
get more expensive for an experience, and I think is

985
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:06,280
worse than it was when I was going away grounds

986
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
in the nineties and two thousands. And of course people

987
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,880
are going to argue, oh, the facilities are so much

988
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,880
better now, But I don't know about that. You know,

989
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:16,159
like I get it. I get of course I'm more comfortable,

990
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840
but is it always about being comfortable. The part of

991
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,760
the experience was Jeesus is a wild ride here at

992
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,760
Cronulla on this absolutely random hill.

993
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: You've got an other sporting codes in the world and

994
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:31,400
you're getting that original experience at the different grounds are there.

995
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,320
In the EPL, you'd be going to a ground that's

996
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,840
one hundred and fifty years old and you have to

997
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,639
sit with your own fans. They don't even let you

998
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:40,519
sit amongst all the other crow like that. It's so

999
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880
much different. And in the NBA they have their own

1000
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:45,440
Every arena has their own ground announcer and you know

1001
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:48,320
just by the sound of the person's voice who it is.

1002
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,079
But in Rugby League I understand they want to class

1003
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,239
it up maybe and make things a bit more professional.

1004
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:56,119
You know, we've seen people go rogue over the years,

1005
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,480
and that person Scott McCrae, who does great things for

1006
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,440
our paper, he still employed like good on the Tigers

1007
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,079
for giving him a job, and he's probably making that

1008
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,679
atmosphere really unique for Tigers fans.

1009
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: My thing about the ground announcer of pendenty was not

1010
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,119
necessarily about Scott McCrae as much as it was this

1011
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,360
desperation to find that plane.

1012
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: That plane that Bailey like again, great channel line news reporter,

1013
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:23,000
probably not the best, no hype man.

1014
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: No, And as I say, Glenn Hall, you know what,

1015
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,920
Glenn Hawk is a really professional MC and he's great

1016
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,599
at it ground announcer when I know that he also

1017
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:34,400
wacks on a Newcastle jersey and a roosters and whatever

1018
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,800
else not for me, you know. And I find it

1019
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,800
really interesting that even Panthers, obviously, unless there was pressure

1020
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,679
from the NRL or whatever, the Panthers actually go, you

1021
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,559
know what, let's just choose that safe option over there.

1022
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,519
Really intriguing, But anyway, I loved it, So do it again.

1023
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: West's hey calling someone's at the game on Friday night.

1024
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Let us know.

1025
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,679
Speaker 2: I want to see west Is up there, and I

1026
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:56,199
want if we come out here, we'll put a big

1027
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:08,039
latte on there instead of a rooster. Alright, it is

1028
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:13,119
time for prices, right, and Nathan got some really good news.

1029
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,000
We've renewed the subscription and so we've got the here

1030
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,039
we go, there we go, right answer, wrong answer, and

1031
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,360
if you do get something right, even the crowd is

1032
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:22,880
going to go off.

1033
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,199
Speaker 1: Good.

1034
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,559
Speaker 3: Here, let's hear the applause.

1035
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,119
Speaker 2: This practice in the studio audience. There we go good?

1036
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,719
All right, now, Nathan, of course you need to get

1037
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,880
this within fifty cents. Is it a dollar or fifty cents?

1038
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,079
Speaker 3: I think you should make it a dollar.

1039
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:35,599
Speaker 2: All right, We'll make it a dollar. We're going to

1040
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:36,880
change the rules. I think going to do this for

1041
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,039
a few more weeks and we're going to come up

1042
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:40,199
with a new game. Even though it's ratings winning stuff.

1043
00:50:41,159 --> 00:50:42,519
Well here, it's going to be on the new Klan

1044
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:47,400
Jackey Oh podcast. This exciting, all right? So Nathan, we're

1045
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,760
kicking off today with the Panthers Pink Diamond Scarf. Pink

1046
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,920
diamonds Diamond Scarf Pendro Panthers is proud to launch the

1047
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,679
official twenty twenty six pink Diamond scarff. Make your winter

1048
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,679
wardrobe and pants fan a winter What make your winter

1049
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,599
wardrobe and Panthers span a winner this winter with the

1050
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,320
Panthers Pink Diamond Scarf. Utilizing an acrylic knit construction, this

1051
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,920
scarf is specially constructed to keep you or your Panther

1052
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:20,280
fan warm throughout the NRL season. Now, it's a rustic

1053
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,400
style stcarf with tassels on the ends. It's double sided.

1054
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,119
It's a sixtieth season Panthers logo on there it's pink

1055
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:31,719
and one of the key features. It's got four features,

1056
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,039
but the key one there keep warm on a winter night.

1057
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: That's what you'd want to scarf?

1058
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: How much?

1059
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: How much do you think?

1060
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's it's it's it's a brand new one

1061
00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:44,000
like it's it's from this this this this year, so

1062
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,639
sixtieth anniversary, I go forty dollars.

1063
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: Forty dollars. You reckon, Nathan, lock it in? What there

1064
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,760
we go? You finally done it? You're kidding, crowd's gone wild.

1065
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,159
Speaker 3: And scarf.

1066
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna have a big scarf. I was always

1067
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,880
hoping you'd get that one. There it is thirty nine

1068
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,880
ninety nine one cent off. Oh wow, you have got

1069
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,480
yourself a Panther's Pick diamond scarf. That for you, I

1070
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,039
think with the weekend olporate discount, so I'll be getting

1071
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,000
better price.

1072
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: And then we'll take a photo of it. We were

1073
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,440
wearing it, we were brilliant.

1074
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: What a win?

1075
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,679
Speaker 3: What does it look like?

1076
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:20,639
Speaker 5: There? It is? There?

1077
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: It is there?

1078
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: What am I getting?

1079
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:22,639
Speaker 4: Oh?

1080
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: Lovely, you'll enjoy that.

1081
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: You'll enjoy that. Let's see if you can go too

1082
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,920
from two because We've got the Panthers Heritage Mug and

1083
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,639
sock gift pack.

1084
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: Oh okay, here's the perfect.

1085
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Go to gift for any hard to buy four Panthers

1086
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,360
fan of Panthers Heritage Mug and sock gift pack. The

1087
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,679
three hundred and thirty milis ceramic mug is both dishwasher

1088
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,159
and microwave safe, while the polyester socks featured the club

1089
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:48,840
colors and name. You can't go wrong with a mug

1090
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,360
and a pair of socks, especially when it features the

1091
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,760
Panthers nineteen ninety one Grand Final logo. Do you reckon? R?

1092
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,559
Writes it Darren micklef over there spirit eyes, using that

1093
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,199
it's got the heritage logo, it's got the three hundred

1094
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,119
and thirty mil ceramic coffee mug. The socks are adult

1095
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:09,280
size seven to eleven.

1096
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no fit.

1097
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,599
Speaker 2: It is an official NURL merchandise. This is a battle

1098
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,519
from the Panther Shop. You're already won from one today.

1099
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,159
The crowd has gone wild already.

1100
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna undercut this one, but I'm happy anyway

1101
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,880
because I've won the scarf. I'll go twenty five dollars Troy.

1102
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,159
Speaker 2: No Only nineteen ninety nine. Ah that's a pretty good deal.

1103
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: That's even cheaper than I thought that five was too cheap.

1104
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,519
Speaker 2: There you go, you've won a pink scarf.

1105
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: Thank you. Well win, you can match my pink jersey

1106
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,760
that of the game.

1107
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: This is fantastic, what a win. I hope you got

1108
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,760
enough in the budget to be able to sort this out.

1109
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,599
All right. Well that is it for tensions running high

1110
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,440
this week. Now there is an addition of extra time,

1111
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,239
of course, out on Thursday. Mass Panther has been nose

1112
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,880
to the ground this week, deep in Panther reat territory.

1113
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,079
Speaker 3: Himself in there.

1114
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: He's got a bit of drama around the the Panther reats. Wow, okay,

1115
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,320
so he'll reveal what that drama is On Thursday. We've

1116
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,599
got lang on League. Of course, the Celebrity Tipsters is

1117
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,239
a I think I'm at the top, no surprise. Yeah,

1118
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,039
you're still leading the way at the Celebrity Tipsters. You're

1119
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:15,719
going to catch up with a couple of players.

1120
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:16,639
Speaker 3: Yep, tomorrow afternoon.

1121
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,159
Speaker 2: And we've also got behind the Game Emily Chate's new segma.

1122
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,159
She's going to catch it with Brian to this week'

1123
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:25,400
so he'll reveal some of his secrets.

1124
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it will.

1125
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: He's always good, valuable, So make sure you pick up

1126
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,559
a copy of Extra Time part of the Weekend on

1127
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,920
Thursday where you're watching the game on Friday, Nathan.

1128
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'm thinking how to watch the game from I'll

1129
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,440
be in Penrith this time. I actually missed the Bathist

1130
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,159
game due to another appointment.

1131
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,039
Speaker 2: Just mind revealing what that was that appointment?

1132
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 3: Oh well, Troy, you know I have an annual tradition

1133
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,840
where I go and watch a taping of the Great

1134
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:58,239
Reality Singing Show Australian Idol over at West h q's

1135
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,239
Coliseum and Channel seven just so happened to say we've

1136
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,239
got the VIP tickets available. Anyone wants to go, and

1137
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,159
I said, all right, I'll put my hand up. I

1138
00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:11,599
didn't expect it to go that long. Like the shoot

1139
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:14,559
started at five five o'clock and didn't finish at eleven

1140
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:17,559
o'clock o'clock. I thought I might because they shot two

1141
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:20,440
shows in one hit, so I thought I might be

1142
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,320
able to get out at some point. But yeah, unfortunately

1143
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,400
I missed the lot. I have since watched the game back,

1144
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,519
but I wasn't able to watch them.

1145
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,559
Speaker 2: I did you did send a message at some point

1146
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:30,719
and we didn't. We weren't.

1147
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: None of us were aware aware of what I was doing.

1148
00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: Are you doing? And you just suddenly popping knuts, you know?

1149
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Eighteen mil. So the boys are doing well and we

1150
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,880
will scoop like obviously it's eighteen mil.

1151
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:40,199
Speaker 4: No.

1152
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: The WiFi is really terrible at West HQ, but I

1153
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,519
managed to find some and I was able to watch

1154
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,840
a little bit during the during the breaks, I got

1155
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,559
the phone out and watched a little bit. But yeah,

1156
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,480
I went in Rome, Troy, so.

1157
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: You would have seen Kyle Sandalians up close and personal.

1158
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was his first public sort of appearance, I

1159
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,480
guess since since the fallout from the the canceled radio show.

1160
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,280
So Kyle's in fine form behind the scenes, lapping the

1161
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,440
crowd up because he's been sitting at home for the

1162
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,559
past couple of weeks a bit bored. So I'm actually

1163
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:13,559
going again tonight Troy, which could be pivotal because we

1164
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:15,639
find out later on today what's happening with him and

1165
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:18,599
his show and whatnot, and it'll be his first again,

1166
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,679
first appearance potentially after being sacked.

1167
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,039
Speaker 2: The big mysteries of the week, Kyle Sandalans Isaac Targo

1168
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,199
and the Panthers New South Wales Cup Coach I don't

1169
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:30,800
know where it all fits in Kyle Sandalans, Mate, I'm out,

1170
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,679
and coach possible in New South Wales Kyl and Isaac

1171
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,159
who knows? All right? Well that is it for Tensions

1172
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,119
Running High this week? So where are you watching the

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game again?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm probably watching it with my uncle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think I'm going to watch it at home,

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but I might be at the ground. You might go

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to be in the city on Friday, so I'm thinking, well,

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maybe I should take advantage of that six o'clock time slot.

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 2: But that is it Fortenion Running High this week. New

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episodes out every week. Visit Western Weekend at dot com todau,

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follow us on all the socials, check out our print

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edition out every Thursday, and of course download the app

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on Troy Dodds. Nathan. Thanks for joining me, Thanks Joy,

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and thanks to Parac City Automotive for their sponsorship. We

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will see you next time on Tensions Running High. Go

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the Mighty Panthers.