WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.639 You're listening to Maximum Medicine Radio with host Doc Martin. 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.679 How do you step into your maximum potential? How do 3 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.759 you connect your spiritual drive with your physical path? Get 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.719 ready to meet the maximum you the world needs on 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.160 Maximum Medicine Radio with Doc Martin. 6 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:28.800 Now, Hi, everybody, Maximum Medicine Here. I'm here with doctor Samshay. Now. 7 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:34.200 I don't know exactly how I was introduced to doctor Sam, 8 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:36.920 but what I've found in the reading I've done, and 9 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.679 he's going to tell you all about it, is here 10 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.759 is a healer who has gone from chiropractic to acupuncture, 11 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:50.159 to functional medicine, to DNA, the whole gamut. So I 12 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:54.200 want him to tell us what he's seeing nowadays in 13 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:59.880 his clients and some help for us, because, let's face 14 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.239 the world is crazy and we need help to stay centered, 15 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:08.719 we need help to stay chill. But doctor Sam, I'm 16 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:10.640 so glad you're here. Thank you for joining me. 17 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.079 Thank you. It's really it's really honored to be here. 18 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:22.159 I really appreciate all public educators, podcasts, hosts, summit leaders, 19 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.359 et cetera. Like This type of public education was just 20 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.280 simply not available twenty thirty forty years ago, and the 21 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.920 entire reason I got into this field was because I 22 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.040 was deeply unwell as a child, starting at age six. 23 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.319 And the yeah, tell. 24 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.719 Us, because I saw that in your website you've managed 25 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.879 to heal a lot of ailments. Tell us about that. 26 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.560 Sure, So my story, like the details of my story, differ, 27 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.359 but the story ARC is very familiar to most people. 28 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.719 It's a story of the wounded healer. Kirn. You know, 29 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:01.560 it's so cliche. It's a constellation. Not that I'm tying 30 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.359 in astrology to this, it's just it's around so long 31 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:08.599 that it's literally across thousands of years, across multiple cultures. 32 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.000 The the trope of a wounded healer. A wounded healer 33 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:15.319 in short, is the person themselves or a dear friend 34 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:18.560 or family member was incredibly sick. But usually it's the 35 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:23.520 person themselves. And then through their entire long circuitous healing 36 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.199 journey ARC, they pick up a lot of tools and 37 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:32.000 understandings and frameworks that they used to help with themselves, 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.960 and then they just want to reduce suffering for those 39 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.280 around them. They don't want others to suffer as they did, 40 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.919 so it becomes their their passion and their profession to 41 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:46.400 share all the frameworks and tools, because it's just they 42 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.479 know how how awful it is to suffer with with 43 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:56.240 with physical physical uh and in physiological and psychological concerns, 44 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.240 and they just they just want the suffering to stop. 45 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.319 So and so that that's the that's the arc. That 46 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:05.479 the details in short, because there's a lot of details, 47 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.319 but I'll just keep it really brief. It's started at 48 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.680 when I was six years old and my parents had 49 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.439 a nuclear divorce in which me and my siblings were 50 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.120 caught in the blast radius. And uh so, it was 51 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.520 it was very deeply unhealthy and damaging. And on top 52 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.400 of that, this was the eighties, so there was like 53 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:33.800 high gluten, high carb, low fat diets and like lots 54 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:40.800 of chemicals, fast food, box cereals, candy, spaghettios, I mean, 55 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:45.479 and just Heine's ketchup. Like it's just all I mean, 56 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:49.240 it's amazing that even survived. Just it was just pretty 57 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.439 much just terrible food, which led to really terrible digestive problems, 58 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:56.400 embarrassing got problems, and a failure to thrive. On top 59 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:01.039 of that, I had crippling insomnia for over twenty years 60 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:06.719 because of the gas lighting and emotional abuse at home 61 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.360 and then the physical and physical abuse at school, with 62 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.879 a lot of violence at school, and this is the 63 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.719 eighties where you were just told to rub some dirt 64 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.399 in it. And then I also contracted lyme disease at 65 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.839 summer cramp, but I didn't know that until decades later. 66 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:26.279 And I was just sickly and unwell and tired and 67 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:26.920 a target. 68 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.439 And that's a whole bunch of bad things all landing 69 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.399 on you, isn't it as a child? 70 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.720 Yeah? And then and then developed a sugar addiction, in 71 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:42.040 a video game addiction to try to cope. And I 72 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.279 decided as a teenager that I had to take charge 73 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.560 of my own health because the options that were presented 74 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:52.360 to me were both and for fun. Both my parents 75 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:56.959 are psychiatrists, and so their answer was to drug me 76 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:04.000 into submission. And I decided that the tools for what 77 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.439 I had going for me, the tools of western medicine, 78 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.000 were not the right choice. 79 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.759 So I'm pretty wise as a teenager to be able 80 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:12.800 to sess that out. 81 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.959 It was pretty desperate, and I fortunately found someone who 82 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.600 had a more natural frame of mind that was able 83 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.800 to mentor me. I also ran into doctor by Sheer Luck, 84 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.879 Doctor Jensen's Guide to Better bowel Care, which was a 85 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:32.560 He's considered the kind of godfather of naturopathy in the West, 86 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:37.000 and that book radically changed my thinking. I was supposed 87 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.680 to be the third generation medical doctor in my family, 88 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.800 but I put took a pivot into natural medicine, and 89 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.279 then I just went to college, did a glorified pre 90 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:52.879 med with extra medical anthropology, philosophy, and organic chemistry, and 91 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:56.000 then did a holistic health practitioner degree on the evenings 92 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.879 and weekends and got into yoga and meditation. And I 93 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.199 just had a very different college because I knew exactly 94 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.600 what I was doing and I was going full throttle 95 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:04.319 right into it. 96 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.920 And I'm just sitting here. Let me take a minute 97 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:14.000 to reflect. If you haven't done this for yourself, that's 98 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:22.279 amazing self knowledge, self reflection, and the ability to take control. 99 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:26.279 We're talking teenage to college, that's amazing. 100 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:27.360 Thank you. 101 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.920 On a spiritual level, I would say you must have 102 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.600 had some serious spirit helpers. 103 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:39.560 I can't vouch for that. I've had. I've had people 104 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:46.360 who are of that persuasion say confirm that. And I 105 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:52.480 have people who are just diehard atheists or agnostics saying like, yeah, 106 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.839 you made the best of a really terrible situation, and 107 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.240 you just wanted to end suffering for yourself and others, 108 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:01.759 and this was the most logical direct pathway forward, and 109 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.720 and whatever, whichever, whatever is the ultimate reality. I don't know. 110 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:07.600 I just know that I want to reduce suffering and 111 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:08.439 help other people. 112 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.800 And my are you a Buddhist? 113 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:19.480 People think I am. I'm a pragmatist. People ask me, that's. 114 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:23.920 A kind of a very cliche Buddhist approach, You know. 115 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:30.000 Sure, I wouldn't. I consider Buddhism more of a I mean, 116 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.480 I've I've met the Dalai Lama, And he said explicitly, 117 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:38.600 explicitly on stage, he said that the Buddhist religion and 118 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.720 Buddhist culture is for Buddhists. Buddhist philosophy is for everybody. 119 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.240 So he was making a distinction between the religious and 120 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.199 the cultural practices and the philosophy. I'm totally cool with 121 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.680 the philosophy. I have no interest in the religion or 122 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.160 the culture. And I. 123 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.439 Don't see you as a dogmatic love joining kind of guy. 124 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.000 No, I did that. I was ten years in a 125 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:08.199 Hindu cult for ten years at one point, starting in college, 126 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.560 and I got out of that in twenty ten that's 127 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.000 going to be the subject of a comedy show at 128 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.120 some point. Oh spoiler. I'm also a stand up comic 129 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.600 as part of my advocacy, and don't let the academic 130 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:23.040 vinear fool you. I do. I have a full one 131 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:26.720 hour show called Neurospicy Love Life and Comedy on the Spectrum, 132 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.040 which is available for free on YouTube, and it's about 133 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.959 what it was like to grow up with Asperger syndrome 134 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.720 and obviously still have it. And it's clean observational comedy, 135 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.679 so there's no politics, cursing, or gratuitous body fluid jokes. 136 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.279 So it's clean comedy. And it's the hour I wish 137 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.879 I had forty years ago to share with family, my friends, 138 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.080 the schools, the other gatekeepers in the community at large. 139 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:56.159 And it's the way that I can kind of, you know, 140 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.720 we're talking in kind of some spiritual terms for lack 141 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.679 of and the karma of what happened to me by 142 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:10.559 creating a way that's easily consumable and transmissible, scalable of 143 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:15.039 like how to better understand people like me so I 144 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.519 didn't that wouldn't suffer us so unnecessarily growing up. And 145 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.639 I'm working actually on my next comedy show, which is 146 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.440 what it was like to grow up in the eighties 147 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.360 on I'm talking about the eighties through the metaphor of 148 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.200 my breakfast in the eighties. So like the eighties was 149 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.639 equal parts of nostalgia and sinister. So on the one hand, 150 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.720 you had like parachute pants and the Rubik's Cube, but 151 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:43.120 then you had parental neglect and toxic food. And I 152 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:44.960 have a working theory is that one of the reasons 153 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.960 why Stranger Things is such a massive cultural hit for 154 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:53.759 the past several years is because this is where art 155 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:57.039 imitates life, where all the children of the eighties are 156 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.559 now working out their unresolved trauma of the eighties in 157 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:03.279 real time. I'm collectively by watching the show about the 158 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.679 eighties and like literal like like like the shadowy, dark 159 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:13.159 forces contrasted next to the cute se nostalgia and uh 160 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.600 so I'm I'm going through like the orange juice and 161 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.240 it's just mostly like sugar and pesticides. The the dairy 162 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.639 industry actually models the same business plan as the as 163 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.960 the street drug industry, you know, because what is an 164 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:30.600 ice cream truck but nothing but a mobile dealer announcing 165 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.919 his presence to get kids hooked on that sweet sweet 166 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:37.360 milk and the high gluten foods, the process, et cetera, 167 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.919 et cetera, a coffee. You know, there was no fancy 168 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:45.279 moucacino back then, but like rancid folders. So so I'm 169 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.519 I'm used comedy as my way to educate and advocate. 170 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:53.039 It's it's so I've got a show on what's like 171 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.960 the Asperger's, I'm working on what it's growing up in 172 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.799 the eighties, and toxic food. I'm working on one on 173 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.480 escaping called another one on getting out of my two 174 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:06.000 addictions of sugar and video games. And I got a 175 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.159 couple others in the works as well, And these are 176 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:13.559 these are like three year projects each. But you know, 177 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.159 the the the intention again is to reduce suffering, and 178 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.279 so you can do it directly with individual or group coaching. 179 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.279 But then there's the larger scaling of how do you 180 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:28.080 change consciousness at a larger level, And that I've concluded 181 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.720 the best approach for me, aside from writing writing books, 182 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.600 is the stand up comedy. 183 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.559 So that's brave because I don't think I first of all, 184 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.320 I'm not that funny, but I'm too serious. But I 185 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:45.919 also anyway I can stand up and lecture and teach, 186 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.240 but I don't know comedy. I would feel vulnerable. 187 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.960 Comedy is very vulnerable. I do recommend, as if you know, 188 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.799 if people want a spiritual practice, take a comedy class 189 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.759 to just do your first five minutes, like, look, if 190 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.240 you want, if you want, it's a very it's a crucible, 191 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:05.840 for sure, But the first five minutes is the hardest 192 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.279 five minutes. And the thing about stand up comedy is 193 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.320 that it's maybe a better thinker, a better speaker, a 194 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.080 better writer, because it teaches you how to be concise, 195 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.519 like what is the most important things to say in 196 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:24.960 a memorable way that's impactful the end. And there's two 197 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:29.559 tricks to writing good stand up comedy. Never aim for funny, 198 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:33.120 aim for truth. Find the funny and the truth, not 199 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.399 the truth in the funny. So as long as you 200 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.799 have a problem you want to solve and you're aiming 201 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:43.159 at truth, you can always find the funny in the truth. 202 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:44.919 And I always reckomon people write with a group. I 203 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.759 always write in a group. I have a writer's group 204 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.759 that I'm a part of. And and you can totally 205 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.679 do it, and it's worth it. I think it's it's 206 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.039 a really valuable experience for people to go through. Uh, 207 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.320 and you'll you'll get the level of confidence encourage that 208 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.360 you earn and you being on stage in lecturing is 209 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.480 relatively easy. I've been lecturing for twenty five years. That's easy. 210 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.120 Just get it up and talk, no problem. 211 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.519 Well yeah, because you go there holding a position, an 212 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:20.159 inherent position of superiority, so you can have that to 213 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:23.480 bolster you. They have to listen to you. You're the 214 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.600 one who knows all the facts. You're the one who's 215 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.000 got the you know, the brass key, the key of 216 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.879 the brass ring or whatever. But comedy, you're putting something 217 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:34.639 out there and you're not sure how it's going to 218 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:35.200 be taken. 219 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.240 Yeah, it's the only art form that's never complete because 220 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.679 it's the audience that determines if your art is done 221 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.720 or not. It's it's not And you can't just repeat 222 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:47.480 your same jokes. It's not like music. You can't get 223 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:48.960 up there and play the same song you've been playing 224 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.759 for forty years. You have to do new stuff. So 225 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.840 it's it's a crucible. It's worth it. I think that 226 00:13:54.879 --> 00:14:02.080 people are looking for a new practice. So my so 227 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:06.120 I went through college and then I went to chiropractical school, 228 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.679 and I got very heavy into functional neurology and nutrition 229 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.879 and graduated top of my class and ran a bunch 230 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.080 of clubs and was a tutor and a TA and 231 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.440 then I traveled and taught around the country to other 232 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.320 chiropractice had to pass their national registration exams in both 233 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:25.360 clinical and basic sciences, and then went abroad to open 234 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.759 my practice, my first practice, and was there for eight years, 235 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:32.840 and then got an acupunctual degree, got very heavy into 236 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:37.799 functional medicine, studied with doctor Kalish in the Kalish Institute 237 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.919 and then the Institute for Functional Medicine, and in twenty 238 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:45.240 sixteen I discover genetics. So I'm in my ten year guniversary, 239 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:51.679 so to speak. And what I discovered is that what 240 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.720 I discovered is that most people, whatever concern they're having, 241 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.360 whether it's there dealing with stubborn weight or hormone imbalance, 242 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.240 or they've got anxiety and high stress, or they're dealing 243 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:08.320 with just a chronic it's just getting chronically sick all 244 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.240 the time, or they're they're chronically fatigued, or they're in 245 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.279 chronic pain, the thing that people were missing is they're 246 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.840 missing a framework. They're missing a framework to analyze how 247 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.320 to understand what's going on with their health because a 248 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.480 lot of people are you know, talking about shiny objects centro. 249 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.399 This is my primary criticism of the biohacker community is 250 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.039 that they're just throwing out lots of shiny objects, shiny 251 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.120 expensive objects, but there's no map the objects. You know, 252 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.200 the shiny The tools are great, asterisk if the tool 253 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.080 is appropriate for the situation that people are in. I 254 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.159 love all the tools that are coming out, But is 255 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.000 the tool what you need? That's the issue. 256 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:48.960 So tell me what you mean by the framework in 257 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:49.679 the structure. 258 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.679 So when you're looking at when you're looking when you're 259 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:55.960 when you're wanting to work with a functional functional medicine, 260 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:59.159 functional health practitioner, you got to make sure they have 261 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.080 two specific frameworks. They have a framework for lifestyle and 262 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.960 a framework for labs. So a framework means do they 263 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:13.919 have a system to analyze exercise, digestion, posture and pain, diet, 264 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.679 you know your nutrition, toxic exposures, your morning and evening routines, 265 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:24.879 stressors and unresolved traumas, hidden exposures to infections or mold, 266 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:29.600 sleep hygiene, those That's an example of a framework like, 267 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.159 that's that's my framework. It's it's looking at these pillars 268 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.960 of health, and I have the ten pillars of health. 269 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.039 Other people have the triangle of health, or the six 270 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.159 steps of this, or the invert the triangle of that, 271 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.279 the inverted highpot news of wells. I don't care some 272 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:50.960 just some framework because otherwise it's like just shooting in 273 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.919 the dark and like like hoping you're going to find 274 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:55.840 something if you ask random questions or they don't ask 275 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.600 the questions. So having a framework about lifestyle means you're 276 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:01.840 looking at someone from the outside in. Then you have 277 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.440 a framework for labs where you looking at people from 278 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.480 the inside out, looking at the physiology of the biochemistry, 279 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.279 the nutrition, the toxic exposures, all from the inside out. 280 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.480 So when you combine lifestyle and labs, a framework for 281 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.480 looking from the outside in and a framework from looking 282 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.599 from the inside out, you combine them together. Congratulations, that's 283 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:24.079 holistic medicine. That is my definition holistic medicine. I like functional. 284 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:28.039 I would call functional medicine as using leveraging the best 285 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.839 of Western medicines lab diagnostics with the best of natural medicines, 286 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:35.599 lifestyle dit nutrition interventions. So holism is when you combine 287 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.880 lifestyle and labs together and the framework for labs. Look, 288 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.759 i've got my framework. I've got there's five lab categories 289 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:52.440 gut hormones, mitochondria, metabolism, the weird stuff, lime, mold, toxins, 290 00:17:52.519 --> 00:18:01.519 environmental environmental toxicity, metals, and weird viruses and infections. And 291 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:05.880 then the fifth one is genetics. So we got gut hormones, mitochondria, metabolism, 292 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:11.799 the weird stuff, genetics. Framework. To people of other frameworks, sure, 293 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:16.000 just have a framework. And if you don't have a 294 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:20.880 framework for labs, then you're just guessing or you're just 295 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.279 running people through a thing that is just like, this 296 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.599 is my practice. We could do this lab in this lab, 297 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.079 which is fine if you have a practice that attracts 298 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.599 people who on the majority really do need that specific 299 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.799 lab and there is value to like these kind of 300 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:40.240 lab in a box practices. Was like, I found that 301 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.680 these are the three most important labs that everyone does 302 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.319 because eighty percent of the people needed eighty percent of the time, 303 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.720 and there is a value to that. Is it as 304 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.200 specific as it could be? No, but it's something. It 305 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.799 is a framework of sorts, but it's not as fully 306 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.039 customizable as it could be. I mean, the really good 307 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.960 practitioners have kind of like a hybrid where they've got 308 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.599 I mean, the really really good ones like customize right 309 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.400 from the beginning with. But the good hybrid is that 310 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.799 they've got like, here's my three labs, and if these don't, 311 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.119 if you plateau and it doesn't get the results we want, 312 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.960 then I've got this this buffet of a stable of 313 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.559 other labs will draw on to figure out what's missing, 314 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.759 which is a totally fair approach. So and that that 315 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:26.200 that's a framework of sorts. So my my encouragement to 316 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.480 everyone listening is just like, as a general rule, when 317 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.119 you're gonna work with someone, make sure they have a 318 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.119 framework both lifestyle and labs. And there is value to 319 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:39.160 just getting a singular lab like genetics. Genetics is unusual 320 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:45.799 because your history doesn't influence what your genes are, whereas 321 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:49.640 knowing what you're what you've been through affects and influences 322 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.640 how you look at what you're, say, like your gut 323 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.559 test looks like or your hormone panel looks like like 324 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:57.519 like what like like you're you can be as sleep 325 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.039 deprived as anything, and your genes are gonna be the 326 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.240 actual gene readout is going to be the same. How 327 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.599 your genes express will change obviously how you're sleeping in 328 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:09.240 your lifestyle. But if you're wanting to know the raw 329 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:13.400 data of like what are your genes, then the history 330 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:17.880 is not necessary because that doesn't influence what we're seeing 331 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.880 in the generic report. Now, how you live your life 332 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.920 and your lifestyle will affect how your genes express. And 333 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.640 the best way I think about genetics is like think 334 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:28.559 of it not as a switch, but as a dial 335 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.799 that people have genetic We call them green, yellow, red dots. 336 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.400 And just to best understand that, yea a green dot 337 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.559 means air quotes good gene is that people have they 338 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:42.519 inherited the good. The air quotes good version of the 339 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.319 genes from both mom and dad. That's a green dot. 340 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.559 A yellow dot is they got one bad air quotes 341 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:50.640 bad version from mom one and a good version from 342 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:53.279 dad or the reverse and one that doesn't matter from 343 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.480 what side. And then a red dot is I got 344 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.559 to quote too bad versions. And the thing that most 345 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:00.319 people think of these as switches, and that's not true. 346 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.039 They're more like dials. So people's default setting is how 347 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.960 they were born. So if I have a lifestyle, and 348 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.440 if I'm living my life, I will default to the 349 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.599 green expression or the yellow expression, or the red expression 350 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:16.880 of a gene, like to say, for inflammation, or for 351 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:25.920 histamine intolerance, or for vitamin D absorption, or any number 352 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:32.759 of things, And my lifestyle will nudge that expression either 353 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:37.279 towards the green or towards the red, depending on how 354 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.160 I live. But if I want to move it in 355 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.599 a specific direction and keep it there, I have to 356 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:46.400 maintain a lifestyle to keep that gene expressing in that direction. 357 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.279 Like I can have red and yellow dots, but according 358 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:53.519 to my lifestyle, if it's a good lifestyle, then I 359 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.839 can make those green and yellow. Those red and yellow 360 00:21:55.839 --> 00:22:00.799 dots not be green, but behave green like the When you. 361 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.960 Say lifestyle, are you mostly focusing. 362 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:08.880 On nutritional No, so nutrition is a major portion of it. 363 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:14.960 But there's also exercise and sleep and uh morning in 364 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:19.359 circadian rhythms and and and like morning and evening routines 365 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:26.000 and digestion and yeah, quit quitting smoking and like all 366 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:31.119 all all the you know, removing toxic exposures, whether they're 367 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:38.200 self inflicted or or or from or externalized. That that 368 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:40.799 the good news about running genetics is that now you 369 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.480 know what what you're like. Like I mentioned before, like 370 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.680 you asked me what am I? I'm a pragmatist. So 371 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:51.680 I'm a fan of reality, big fan of reality, and 372 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.240 I want to know my genetic reality. I want people 373 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.160 to know their genetic reality, and their genetic reality is like, 374 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.440 what are the boundaries of play here? So some people 375 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.880 like me. I found out in twenty sixteen that I'm 376 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:08.480 a hyper inflamer, which explained why I was so sick 377 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.519 growing up. Now, I was so sick because I had 378 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:16.920 a combination of really vulnerable genetics and really terrible lifestyle. 379 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:19.039 I didn't know any better. I was a kid, and 380 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:20.920 it took me to my teenage years to figure out 381 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.119 I had actually more agency in how I live my life. 382 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.000 And what do you mean by a hyper inflamer. 383 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:31.000 So when you look at someone's genetics, when we look 384 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.960 at genetics from a functional or more holistic lens, we're 385 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:41.039 looking at We're not chasing down an individual gene necessarily, 386 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:44.279 We're looking at clusters of genes and how they behave 387 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.680 in concert. We're looking at the orchestra of genes. So 388 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:53.759 there are sixteen major pro inflammatory genes in the body. 389 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.359 There are hundreds of genes that influence inflammation directly indirectly, 390 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.000 but I want the most important ones, and there's sixteen 391 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.400 of them. So by hyper and flamer, I'm talking about 392 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:09.680 someone who's got like eleven and above of those sixteen. 393 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.440 So it's looking at like the entire constellation of inflammatory 394 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:16.400 genes is like really inflammatory. I have fourteen out of 395 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:20.519 sixteen genes as red and yellow dots, so a hyper 396 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:24.039 and flamer meaning that I could be eating, you know, 397 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.599 my terrible breakfast growing up, and another family members eating 398 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:29.480 the same breakfast, but they're not as affected as I 399 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:34.279 am because my genes react much more inflammatory in much 400 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:35.880 more inflammatory ways than they do. 401 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:42.960