1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,599 Epstein Chronicles. Andrew Lowney, who is a historian and an author, 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,839 offered up some information about Prince Andrew's alleged criminal behavior 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,960 to the authorities in the UK. And even after that 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,440 evidence was offered up, the authorities in the UK decided, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,359 after what appears to be a cursory glance at the evidence, 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,519 to shut down any investigation into former Prince Andrew and 8 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:33,600 any of his alleged crimes when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,719 So today we have an article from Newsweek getting into 10 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:40,359 the weeds a bit. So I'll keep the winging to 11 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:45,320 a minimum here and we'll just dive right in headline 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,960 Former Prince Andrew author offered new evidence to National Crime Agency. 13 00:00:50,119 --> 00:00:55,439 This article was authored by Jack Royston. Andrew Lowney, author 14 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:58,719 of best selling biography of Andrew Mountbatten. Windsor, said he 15 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:01,560 offered new material about the former Prince to the UK 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,560 National Crime Agency and told Newsweek he is concerned that 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,400 no one's come forward to speak to him. I mean, 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,439 at the very least, you'd think somebody would come forward 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,920 and be like, hey, we got this information, do you 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,480 want to sit down and give us a statement that 21 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:17,200 would seem to be the right way to go right 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,840 under normal circumstances. But as we all know, nothing about 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,560 this shit is normal. It's about as abnormal as abnormal gets. 24 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:32,719 It's about as normal as Norman Bates. Mount Baton Winsor 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,319 was stripped of his prince titles in October over his 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,079 friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and allegations from Virginia Roberts, who 27 00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:42,359 sued the royal in twenty twenty one. Roberts said that 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,079 she was trafficked by Epstein and Glenn Maxwell to London, 29 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:48,159 New York and the US Virgin Islands in two thousand 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,959 and one and made to have sex with Mount Baton Winsor, 31 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,319 the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, who has always 32 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:56,760 denied the allegations. Oh yeah, what's he going to do? 33 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:59,959 Admit it? Well, you see what happened there, lad was 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,120 I was chewing on my stiff up a lip and 35 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,120 I happened to fall into this situation where I was 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,439 with Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, come on, man, 37 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:11,560 nobody buys any of your bullshit. Oh, I was at 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,520 the pizza joint and woking. I was here. I was there. No, 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,639 you were exactly where that picture said you were in 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,240 that Belgravia home with an underage Virginia Roberts. Them's the 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,360 facts only, and no matter how much you try and 42 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:26,919 hide from the facts or the truth, the truth is 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,000 the truth. He settled Robert's lawsuit, in which he was 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,039 accused of rape in twenty twenty two for an undisclosed 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,280 sum without admitting liability. Roberts died in April after what 46 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:42,120 her family described as a suicide. So without admitting liability, 47 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:45,680 that's certainly a lot to swallow. We're not talking about 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 somebody that was in a car crash here. We're not 49 00:02:48,039 --> 00:02:50,840 talking about somebody you know that just wants this to 50 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,759 go away and everybody's gonna forget that he was ever 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,520 in a lawsuit. We're talking about the rape and trafficking 52 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,520 of an underage girl. Bro, And you're you're just going 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,599 to settle out of court. You're not going to fight that. 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,800 You're not gonna come out swinging, You're not gonna sue 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,240 everybody who says something about you. Well, that tells me 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,719 everything I need to know. Now. Of course I'm not 57 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:12,479 going to sit here and tell you that he's one 58 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,400 hundred percent guilty. We didn't have a trial, but his actions, 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,680 his behavior leads me to believe that he's guilty, and 60 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:22,520 of course the fact that we have a ton of 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 evidence pointing in that direction. And I think when you 62 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 add all of that up, there's no other destination to 63 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:30,560 arrive at. Lowney's book, entitled The Rise and Fall of 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,960 the House of York, caused a wave of news stories 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,879 about mount Batten Winsor's relationship with Epstein, his time as 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,560 UK Trade Envoy, and his ex wife Sarah Ferguson's lavish 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,000 spending habits, among other subjects. The book was published in August, 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,319 and there's no doubt that it brought Andrew back to 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,520 the forefront of the Epstein conversation, exactly where he belongs. 70 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:54,879 But there's no way in hell that Andrew himself should 71 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:58,240 be the only one that feels the burn. Bill Clinton, 72 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:02,840 Donald Trump, everybody, everybody that was adjacent to this dude 73 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:05,319 that was hanging out with this dude that has gone 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,919 on to lie about this dude and their relationship with them. 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,159 Those are the people that we should really be zeroing 76 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:13,599 in on, because in my opinion, they're the ones with 77 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:16,000 the most to hide. Not everything he uncovered made it 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,879 into the final version. However, for legal reasons, it's commonplace 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 for lawyers to request changes to books about high profile 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,000 public figures, and Epstein is a particularly sensitive subject, which 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,920 is crazy on its face. There is so much evidence 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,920 backing up a lot of the rumor and innuendo. But 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,040 the truth is a lot of people aren't hip to 84 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,000 that because they've never been exposed to it. A lot 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,160 of it has to do with core documents, and, as 86 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:46,160 you know, not exactly the most glamorous or enjoyable things 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,519 to dive into. But if you really want to wrap 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,240 your mind around what really happened, if you really want 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,920 to hear from people who experienced the suffering at the 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,560 hands of Epstein and Maxwell, then you're going to have 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,519 to dive into those core documents. And each every day 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,720 is like an ongoing saga, right a new update, a 93 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:06,639 new episode, and if you miss one, you're out of 94 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,240 the loop. That's how much information there is when it 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,000 comes to Jeffrey Epstein in his crimes. But the truth 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,480 is a lot of it isn't the salacious kind of 97 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:21,240 information that gets clicks or drives entertainment value. So that's 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,319 why a lot of people haven't been familiar with a 99 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:25,839 lot of this stuff until recently. And even now, not 100 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,920 everybody is talking about core documents. Not everybody is talking 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,040 about the actual nexus of where all this information is. 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,839 They're still talking about salatious nonsense that really doesn't move 103 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:40,160 the needle when all is said and done. But when 104 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,399 you dive into those core documents and you start looking 105 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:44,759 at some of the motions and you start looking at 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,920 what was said, I have zero doubt that Prince Andrew 107 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,839 knew that he was cooked, and that's why he accepted 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,920 that deal. Lowney said that he's ready to give the 109 00:05:57,079 --> 00:06:00,439 unused material to the NCAA, a law enforcement it that 110 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,480 target serious organized crime. I've also offered my material to 111 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:07,680 the National Crime Agency about some of Mount Batten Windsor's 112 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:11,079 activities as special Trade Envoy for stuff we couldn't put 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,040 in the book for legal reasons, and no one's come forward, 114 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,199 Lowney told Newsweek, I don't know who to go to. 115 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,160 It doesn't sound like they're very enthusiastic about going there. Oh, 116 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:25,120 there's no way. Did people really think that the Royals 117 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,360 were going to let Prince Andrew be prosecuted, no chance. 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,439 Exile is the best we could hope for. That's what 119 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,000 I've said from the jump, that exile is the best 120 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,839 we could hope for when it comes to Andrew, and 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,959 I still believe that today. I don't think he's going 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,800 to prison, certainly, not anytime soon, and certainly not for 123 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:47,120 anything he was doing while he was with Epstein. Now 124 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,839 some of this other stuff, maybe at some point they 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,040 might find something that they can't ignore, but as of 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,879 right now, that's a pipe dream. I think the most 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,879 we're going to see from Andrew is exile. And I 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,120 think that exile could be anywhere, honestly. But my guess 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,399 is if things go real south for him, he's going 130 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:07,879 to end up at some Shike's house in insert Middle 131 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:12,319 Eastern country here. But prison, I think that's a step 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,639 way too far. Lowney later explained that he made the 133 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:19,079 offer publicly and anticipated the NCAA would get in touch 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,399 with him. An NCAA spokesperson told Newsweek the NCAA does 135 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,439 not take direct public crime reports. We urge anyone with 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,079 information about criminal activity to contact police. Imagine, aren't you 137 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,279 the police? What does that even mean. And if I 138 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,519 was in charge of whatever unit that is, and that 139 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:39,199 was the commentary that I saw that they were giving 140 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:44,000 to people about reporting crimes, yeah there'd be some problems now, 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 I bet you if you went to the NCAA and said, hey, 142 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,920 look so and so is making horrible tweets about so 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,759 and so, they'd be there in a minute. But Jeffrey 144 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Epstein his crimes Prince Andrew Ah, no need to get 145 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,000 to that. Nothing to see here for keep it moving. 146 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:05,480 On Saturday, the Metro Police Service announced it will not 147 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,879 be investigating reports in the Mail on Sunday about an 148 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:12,920 email Mount Bountain Windsor sent to Buckingham Palace press officer 149 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,839 in twenty eleven, the day before Robert's first newspaper interview 150 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,439 was published. I'm sure it was just a coincidence of 151 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:22,560 the timing, right. Oh, he had no idea who Virginia was, 152 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:26,480 but the article was about to be published, and of 153 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,600 course he was contacted by Deli Mal for comment and whatever, 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,879 so he knew it was coming. So we tried to 155 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:34,879 get ahead of it. Hey, let me get a little 156 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:38,480 bit of dirt on Virginia because this piece is coming 157 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,799 out and I'm going to be outed as the scumbag 158 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,759 I am. So in light of that, I'd like to 159 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,360 get some dirt on this woman, this girl, so that 160 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:49,399 I can try and destroy her credibility so nobody believes her. 161 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:52,519 That was the whole point. That was what he wanted 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,000 to do. The question is did it happen. Well, We're 163 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:59,559 never gonna know because the police in London they decided 164 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,840 no investigation is needed. The former Prince's message read, I 165 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:08,480 would also seem SI Virginia Roberts as a criminal record 166 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:10,960 in the States. I have given her DOB, date of 167 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,399 birth and social Security number for investigation with redacted. The 168 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:19,759 Duty Ppo Personal Protection Officer the NPS, commonly referred to 169 00:09:19,799 --> 00:09:22,879 as the MET, is a primary police force for Greater London, 170 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,440 covering all thirty two boroughs except for the City of London, 171 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,960 which has its own force. Its core jurisdiction is local policing, 172 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,120 crime prevention and public order within London, but it also 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,399 has national responsibility, including counter terrorism, protection of high profile individuals, 174 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,120 and specialist operations across England and Wales when required. Some 175 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:49,759 had argued Mountbatten Windsor's request amounted to the criminal offense 176 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:52,960 of misconduct in a public office and that should face 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,279 a full criminal investigation. The NPS initially said in October 178 00:09:57,399 --> 00:10:00,360 when the email was first published they were actively looking 179 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,639 into the reports. Well that was just to you know, 180 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,679 placate people. Oh yeah, we're looking into this. Don't worry, 181 00:10:06,919 --> 00:10:08,600 we're on top of it. We're gonna see what's going 182 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:12,799 on here. Meanwhile, they're busy sitting back, eating some crumpets 183 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:16,879 and having some tea. I think it's pretty clear cut, 184 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Lowney said. To just dismiss it so quickly is pretty shocking. 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,879 I mean, they're not even going through the motions. And 186 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,159 I think all along we felt that he Andrew has 187 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,399 been protected. I've been on the record saying I thought 188 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,720 he was toast because I thought they would do stuff. 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,559 So I'm pretty shocked by this. I can't say too 190 00:10:34,639 --> 00:10:37,360 much more, but I know that one policeman who has 191 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,679 spoken up is under a lot of pressure now and 192 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:42,840 being sent cease and desist letters by his bosses not 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,080 to speak out because he could kind of knowe this. Well, 194 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,879 there's always going to be that kind of pressure, right 195 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,360 If they don't want the story to come out, they're 196 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,360 going to lean on people and they're going to pressure 197 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:57,919 them to play ball. Newsweek has approached the NPS for comment. 198 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,759 The Crown Prosecution Service, Britain's prosecuting authority, offers an explanation 199 00:11:02,799 --> 00:11:06,440 of misconduct in a public office on its website. The 200 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,960 offense concerned serious wilful abuse or neglect of the power 201 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,679 or responsibilities of the public office held. There must be 202 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,240 a direct link between the misconduct and an abuse of 203 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:21,120 those powers or responsibilities. The Court of Appeal has made 204 00:11:21,159 --> 00:11:24,919 it clear that the offense should be strictly confined and 205 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,320 it can also raise complex and sometimes sensitive issues. Trying 206 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 to get one of your paid flunkies to go after 207 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,360 Virginia is not a bad thing, not something that's criminal, 208 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,600 especially considering he had her Social Security number? How did 209 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,720 he get that? Probably a good question, asked no Day. Davies, 210 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:48,919 the former head of Royal Protection at the Metropolitan Police, 211 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,799 told mel On Sunday in October, it's time for Scotland 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Yard to launch a full criminal investigation into Prince Andrew. 213 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:59,159 Asking a police officer to investigate an alleged victim is 214 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,159 outside of their due whether that is calling the FBI, 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,200 your mates in the US, or searching out themselves to 216 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,480 find out whether someone has a criminal offense that is 217 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,799 in my view a criminal offense. Well, I would say so, 218 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:15,600 maybe not. You know, a serious crime if you will, 219 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,360 but something that needs to be investigated. Asking a public 220 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:22,240 servant that includes anyone from the Palace or police to 221 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:25,759 commit those inquiries is inciting them, aiding and abetting them 222 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,399 to commit misconduct in public office. It should be investigated 223 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,320 and he should be interviewed under caution. Thousand percent Will 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:40,440 it ever happen? Zero chance. Ella Marriott, the NPS Central 225 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:44,200 Specialist Crime Commander, said in a statement, our thoughts will 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,519 always be with Miss Robert's family and friends. Following her death. 227 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,639 In twenty fifteen, the Metropolitan Police Service received allegations relating 228 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,200 to non recent trafficking for sexual exploitation involving Jeffrey Epstein 229 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:01,519 and Glenn Maxwell. These allegations prime arly concerned events outside 230 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,240 the United Kingdom, with one allegation of trafficking to Central 231 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,879 London in March of two thousand and one. Officers assessed 232 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:12,080 all available evidence at the time, interviewed the complaintant, Miss 233 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Virginia Roberts, as well as contacting several other potential victims. 234 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:19,960 This did not result in any allegation of criminal conduct 235 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,000 against any UK based nationals. The mp sought advice from 236 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:28,399 the Crown Prosecution Service and liaised with United States authorities 237 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,039 who were leading investigation into related matters involving US nationals. 238 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,039 Following this legal advice, it was clear that any investigation 239 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,799 into human trafficking would be largely focused on activities outside 240 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,399 the UK and perpetrators based overseas. Officers therefore concluded in 241 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,159 consultation with CPS that other international authorities were best placed 242 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:56,399 to progress these allegations. Officers maintained close relations with the 243 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,639 U S and other relevant authorities throughout their investigation to 244 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:03,159 ensure or any UK matters would be identified and to 245 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:07,120 consider any support requested. A decision was made in November 246 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:10,840 of twenty sixteen not to proceed to a full criminal investigation. 247 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,679 That decision was reviewed in August of twenty nineteen and 248 00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:18,000 again in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. In 249 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:21,799 each instance the position remained unchanged and Miss Roberts and 250 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,919 her legal representation were informed. Following recent reportings suggesting that 251 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,320 mister Andrew mount Batten Winsor asked his Met Police Close 252 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:33,200 Protection officer to carry out checks on Miss Roberts. In 253 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,799 twenty eleven, the NPS has carried out further assessment. This 254 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:42,200 assessment has not revealed any additional evidence of criminal acts 255 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,320 or a misconduct. The met remains committed to thoroughly assessing 256 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,679 any new information that could assist in this matter. To date, 257 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:52,720 we have not received any additional evidence that would support 258 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,039 reopening the investigation. In the absence of any further information, 259 00:14:57,399 --> 00:15:00,919 we will be taking no further actions. If any other matter, 260 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,720 should new and relevant information be brought to our attention, 261 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,919 including in any information resulting from the release of material 262 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,679 in the US, we will assess it. So that was 263 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:15,519 the statement by the police force and the translation, there's 264 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,519 nothing to see here, keep it moving. But the truth 265 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,000 is there's a lot to see here. But in order 266 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,840 to see what's going on, you have to open up 267 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,519 your eyes and actually look. And according to these reports, 268 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,320 that's something that the Metropolitan Police Department has no desire 269 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,919 to do. All right, folks, that's going to do it 270 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 for this one. All of the information that goes with 271 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,399 this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, 272 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,240 and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. One 273 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,320 of the researchers. Who has done a fantastic job when 274 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,519 it comes to Prince Andrew is author and historian Andrew Lowney, 275 00:15:55,399 --> 00:15:57,720 And of course he's the author of the book entitled 276 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 The Rise and Fall of the House of York, and 277 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,080 he has some very very interesting things to say about 278 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,600 Prince Andrew, but a whole host of things Epstein related, 279 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:11,639 including Malania Trump and how she met Donald. Now, to 280 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:16,399 be clear, Milania Trump has completely denied the allegations that 281 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:21,399 she met her husband Donald Trump through Jeffrey Epstein, but 282 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:25,039 Andrew Lowney and Michael Wolfe, they're pretty adamant about it. 283 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,240 So it's going to be interesting to see which way 284 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,519 that goes. I don't really have an opinion one way 285 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 or the other because I don't know. I wasn't there. 286 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:35,120 I have no idea. Do I find it plausible? Look, 287 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,320 nothing is out of the realm a plausibility here, So 288 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:40,600 I'm certainly interested to see what they have to offer 289 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,120 as far as evidence moving forward. But as far as 290 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:46,960 this episode goes, we're going to talk more about Prince 291 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Andrew and what Andrew Lowney had to say in an 292 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,639 interview he gave to USA Today, Like I said today's 293 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,639 article from USA Today and the headline future Epstein files 294 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:01,919 could spell more trouble for ex Prince Andrew. Yeah, I 295 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:05,640 would think so, considering how tight these two were. There's 296 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,640 gonna be more. There's always more, right, there's always something 297 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,559 else that hasn't been released yet, another witness, another person 298 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:16,160 who's willing to come forward. And I think that when 299 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,720 we get more emails, we're gonna have more receipts about 300 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Prince Andrew being breaking news an absolute liar. Like I 301 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,759 told you from the very beginning, this man's a liar. 302 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,599 You have to really be out to lunch to believe 303 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,240 anything that this guy has to say. This article was 304 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:38,480 authored by Wendy Nagle. When King Charles announced that his 305 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,160 brother Andrew would be stripped of his royal titles and 306 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,000 pushed out of his plush home at Royal Lodge because 307 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:47,880 of his association with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, it 308 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,079 marked an incredible fall from grace. It started well before that, 309 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,839 well before that, anyone paying attention to that Prince Andrew, 310 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,640 or should I say disgrace. Prince Andrew was an absolute chum, 311 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,720 and not just because of his Epstein dalliances, but just 312 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:07,000 the way that he manipulated the system, the way that 313 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:09,759 he used tax payer money to live this lavish life 314 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,000 while the English people are lucky to have their heat on. 315 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,519 And remember the people over in the UK, they're paying 316 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:19,960 a shit ton of money in taxes, so that money 317 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,400 is being spent on Prince Andrew to go to New Mexico, 318 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,160 to go to Zoro Ranch and hang out with Bill 319 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Richardson and the boys. Yeah, people are going to be pissed. 320 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:35,759 Well known as Queen Elizabeth's favorite son, the former prince 321 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:39,839 has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, but the repercussions of his 322 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,880 behavior continue. On Monday, December first, the King's directive, Andrew 323 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,599 Moultbouten Winsor's name was erased from the prestigious Order of 324 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,400 the Garter and Royal Victorian Order Honors. Ah, poor guy 325 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:55,640 lost his little cost playing roles. Now look in the 326 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,680 old days, I could understand, right, these dudes are going 327 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,119 out to war, you know, going to fucking France to 328 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,440 fight whatever. It might be cool give them their titles. 329 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,440 But this absolute clown, he doesn't deserve to be in 330 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,079 the Order of the trash picker Uppers never mind the 331 00:19:09,079 --> 00:19:12,920 fucking royal order of this or that? But will this 332 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,559 erase the stain on the Royal family? USA Today spoke 333 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:18,920 to Andrew Lowney, a historian and author of the new 334 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,000 book entitled The Rise and Fall of the House York, 335 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:26,240 to find out what's next for the Royal family. The 336 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:30,039 Epstein Files Transparency Act passed, requiring the Department of Justice 337 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:33,799 to release documents in the Epstein case by December nineteenth. 338 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:37,319 What do you expect might be revealed about the former Prince? 339 00:19:38,839 --> 00:19:41,759 Andrew Lowney, Well, we don't know. I understand that there's 340 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:43,759 a lot of material on him. I think there's a 341 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:47,240 danger that a lot of material won't be released. We've 342 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:51,160 already seen quite a few revelations, particularly the length of 343 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,319 his association with Epstein. Another lie. So when you have 344 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,480 somebody out here that's just lying out of both sides 345 00:19:57,519 --> 00:20:00,519 of their mouth about everything, why should can we believe 346 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:03,640 him about anything? We have to be slightly cautious about 347 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,039 him leaving Royal Lodge. He's been given a year to 348 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,920 go out. He's basically digging his heels in to say 349 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,079 that he wants to have a pretty large house on 350 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,440 the Sandringham estate. He wants to have servants, a driver, 351 00:20:14,599 --> 00:20:17,400 a gardener, a housekeeper. So it's not going to be 352 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,640 this fall from grace that everyone's assumed. He's making the 353 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,640 point that he's got a cast iron lease and therefore 354 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,119 he needs to be compensated. Imagine telling the King that 355 00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:30,720 real lucky, I'm not the King. I'd be shown up 356 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:33,279 over at his house with a goon squad. Hey, boys, 357 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,000 time for him to go pack this motherfucker up right 358 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:38,920 to the Tower of London. I've had my fill. So 359 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,599 what's been said in public and actually what's happening in 360 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,640 private are two different things. In your book, you detail 361 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,880 that Andrew was photographed with Epstein and Glenn Maxwell at 362 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,519 Donald Trump's mar A Lago and Palm Beach in February 363 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,319 of two thousand. He also played golf with Trump. What 364 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,640 do you think the relationship was between the two men 365 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,799 and how do you think Andrew's fall could ultimately impact 366 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:04,480 the president. Well, the relationship is good. I mean they 367 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:07,799 have three common interests, women, golf, and making money. And 368 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:10,640 Andrew was actually deputized to take care of Trump when 369 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,119 he came on a previous day visit. Trump claims now 370 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,640 that he doesn't know Andrew or who he is. But 371 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 there's plenty of evidence to show that they were very close. 372 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,039 And all of that's true, one hundred percent true. And 373 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,240 another lie on Donald Trump's part. This man lies about 374 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:29,920 everything that has to do with Epstein. Everything. Andrew is 375 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,759 the Queen's favorite son. In your book, you site reporting 376 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:35,920 that in January of twenty fifteen, three officials put their 377 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,920 concerns about him in writing to the queen. Do you 378 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,000 think those concerns ever really reached the queen or do 379 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:44,519 you think that she was knowingly protecting her son. I 380 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,000 think the concerns did reach the Queen. They were of 381 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:49,680 course made by the Private Secretary at the time, and 382 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,680 he kind of told them, actually, there's no point making 383 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,880 these complaints because she's not interested. She just had this 384 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,200 complete blind spot. And I know people didn't want to 385 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240 hear it at the time, but I told everybody that 386 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:06,839 the Queen was enabling Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein's bullshit 387 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,920 THEO proxy, and well, here we are. The Queen definitely 388 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,279 holds some responsibility here. She could have stopped Prince Andrew's bullshit. 389 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,160 She could have reigned him in, she could have forced 390 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,680 him to tow the line. But no, she kept protecting 391 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,000 him and kept letting him do whatever he wanted to do. 392 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,480 And so you think the Queen knew the details about 393 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,359 Epstein well before she died and still protected Andrew. Yes, 394 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,000 I have no doubt the Queen was very well informed. 395 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,279 The Queen's household is filled, or the King's household is 396 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:40,160 filled with former intelligence officials. The private secretary had been 397 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,400 a former military intelligence officer. There are good reasons why 398 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,720 they picked these people. They're discreet and they will know 399 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:51,440 a lot of secrets, one hundred percent. And if you 400 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,640 think these people around the Queen weren't telling her that 401 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,880 her son was an absolute scumbag, you're crazy. They did. 402 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,480 She heard the rumors. The queen wasn't a lot of 403 00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:03,559 things I could say about the Queen Elizabeth, but dumb 404 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,000 isn't one of them. And she thought she was protecting 405 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,960 the brand when she was protecting Andrew. But the truth 406 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:13,079 is she did serious damage to the brand. King Charles 407 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960 formally stripped the titles from his brother, erased his name 408 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,400 from prestigious royal honors. Why do you think it took 409 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,680 Charles so long to act? You're talking about the honors 410 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,839 that have been taken away from him, but they were 411 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,960 actually often given to him after the scandal broke and 412 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:30,359 nothing was done. Both the Queen and Charles have kind 413 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,440 of got the heads in the sand that the belief 414 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:36,039 is that the problem will go away, that the news 415 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:39,039 agenda will move on. That's what they always think. That's 416 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,839 the playbook, right, head to the bunker and wait for 417 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,319 the storm to blow over. Well, this storm is not 418 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:51,079 blowing over. It's either transparency or we keep going. William 419 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,599 has seen the reputational damage that's been done and that 420 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,240 he needs to get ahead of the story. And that's 421 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:00,000 why just over a month ago they realize public opinion 422 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,319 was demanding something to happen. And it does tie into Trump. 423 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,599 There's a sense that the elites have operated in their 424 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,720 own interest for far too long and people in power 425 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 need to be held to account. I would say that 426 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,240 that's certainly the way people are feeling right now. Enough 427 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,160 is enough, and I think that's what they're so scared of, 428 00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,799 because if you take a look around at people who 429 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,119 are you know, finally understanding the true scope of what 430 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Epstein was up to and the people he was doing 431 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,640 it with, it's always the same thing. We had no idea. 432 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200 We always thought that people were just bullshitting when they 433 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,319 talked about the masters of the universe. Well guess what, 434 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,799 that's what they wanted you to believe. That's why there 435 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:43,160 was all the confusion. That's why they always have these 436 00:24:43,559 --> 00:24:47,119 countersyops that they run. Oh, this one's the villain, this 437 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,559 one's the bad guy. It's like Pizzagate. That whole entire 438 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,039 thing was put into action to make people fall off 439 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:57,200 the trail when it comes to Epstein. Start talking about 440 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,359 crazy nonsense, and well everybody get slumped in. Right then 441 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,839 they can call everybody crazy and anybody talking about Epstein 442 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,759 and this cabal if you will, Well, those people are 443 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,319 lumped in with the crazies, and that's how they kill 444 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 real discussion around the topic that they don't want people 445 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:16,920 talking about. In your book, you write about how there 446 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160 have been tensions between Prince William, Prince Harry and their uncle. 447 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440 What do you think the boys do about Andrew Epstein 448 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,079 and Virginia. I think certainly William knows a lot. As 449 00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:29,000 the heir of the throne, he would have been briefed. 450 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,960 I've seen documents of briefings, so I don't think there's 451 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,759 a doubt that they were aware of what was going on. 452 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,200 We can see what William's feelings are towards his uncle 453 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,400 just from the Duchess of Kent's funeral. Well, yeah, William 454 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,079 hates Prince Andrew. There is no doubt about it. That 455 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,079 has been well documented for years. Nobody wants uncle touchy 456 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920 around their kids. There is always hope that Prince William 457 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 and Harry will reunite. Do you think that there's any 458 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,759 chance that having this common shared enemy and Andrew might 459 00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:00,799 somehow bring the boys back together. Think there's going to 460 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,440 be anything to bring them back together. They're both very 461 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,839 stubborn and a lot of things have been said that 462 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,519 can't be unsaid. The scandal also swept up Sarah Ferguson. 463 00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,720 You detail how he racked up millions in debt and 464 00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,720 suggests that Andrew or the Queen pay those debts off. 465 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,440 How much taxpayer money do you think has been spent 466 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,960 supporting Andrew and Fergie's lifestyle over the years. The payments 467 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,319 for Sarah's debts and the payment to Roberts came out 468 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,480 of the private funds, So I don't think that was 469 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,759 taxpayer's money, But I think over the years, it had 470 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,359 been difficult to quantify what has been spent on their security, 471 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,160 on taking jets when they could have gone commercial flights, 472 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,599 taking helicopters when they could have gone by car. Well, 473 00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:46,960 that's typical, unfortunately to say, but that's typical of politicians 474 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,079 and the elite, while the rest of us grind take 475 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,599 the subway, uber walk, ride a bike, whatever, they're taking 476 00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,759 helicopters for a five minute drive. Oh and by the way, 477 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,319 as the taxpayer, you're on the hook for that. But 478 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,720 the truth is most of us are willing to overlook that. 479 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,079 What we're not willing to overlook is the fact that 480 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,039 you know, you're allegedly abusing traffic girls. That's pretty much 481 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:14,759 where the whole entire civilized world draws the line. This 482 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,839 is why there needs to be more transparency about royal finances. 483 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,319 We need to know what the costs are. But I 484 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,720 think the Palace realizes it would lead to a revolt 485 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,400 because there is a concern that the royals are not 486 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,000 providing value for the money. Some like Princess and work 487 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:34,119 extremely hard. Others are not, and that is affecting their popularity. Well, 488 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:37,319 let's be real, work really hard. As a royal What 489 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,799 going to appearances, showing up somewhere and waving make them 490 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,759 pretend you care about people enough already with the whole 491 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:49,839 royal thing, Andrew no longer has palace protection. What does 492 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,759 that mean? Can he actually be investigated, charged or even imprisoned. 493 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,519 He has been cut loose because they're worried that charges 494 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,880 might be brought against him. They don't want the reputational damage. 495 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,279 He was the kind of infected limb that was affecting 496 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,759 the rest of the body. There are two grounds on 497 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,400 which he could be charged. One on the sexual trafficking, 498 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,920 which was looked at three times by the Metropolitan Police. 499 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,599 Thought there was nothing there to be seen, and I 500 00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:19,279 think there's a strong case being made that this needs 501 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,720 to be looked at again. Well, look, if you look 502 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960 at something and don't want to find something, you're not 503 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,279 going to find it. That's why when people bring up 504 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,680 the investigation into Epstein it makes me laugh. The investigation 505 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,079 was tailored to not find anything. So people like Alan 506 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Dershowitz that rely on that stupid ass investigation that occurred, bro, 507 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,920 come on. That might work with your base and people stupid, 508 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,759 but that doesn't work with normal people who understand how 509 00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:46,119 this all goes down. And I don't know about you, 510 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,960 but I've had my fill of these so called elites 511 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:54,319 trying to bullshit me. There's also the financial misdemeanors. Emails 512 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,759 have been found that he tried to get information on 513 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Roberts and Smerr. That is an offense under the miscondom 514 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,519 in public office, with life imprisonment as one of the penalties. Jeez, 515 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,759 that's pretty crazy. I doubt that'll happen. And frankly, I 516 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,359 don't think Prince Andrew is going to be tried at all, 517 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,240 but the fact that the conversation's even happening certainly progress, 518 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960 so I think that he may well be charged. I 519 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,000 don't think he's ever going to spend any time in prison. 520 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,119 I think rather like Juan Carlos of Spain, the former 521 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,319 king who fled to Abu Dhabi following corruption allegations. He'll 522 00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,680 make a midnight flight to the Middle East and there 523 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,359 are no extradition treaties between Baran and Britain. Imagine he 524 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,079 did that shit. This dude actually bounced and went to 525 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,559 a different country because he was scared that he was 526 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:44,200 going to be extradited. Tell me you're guilty without telling 527 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 me you're guilty. It does seem that if you were 528 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,759 to flee the country, it would be an admission of guilt. 529 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,359 And he has always denied any wrongdoing. We've got to 530 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,279 say that he denies the allegations, but the fact is 531 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,079 that he's not cooperated with any of the victim's lawyers 532 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,440 or law enforcement agencies for the last fifteen years. And 533 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,759 that's true. If you were innocent, if you had something 534 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,240 to say, you would have set it by now. This 535 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,640 man is not innocent in my opinion, Do you think 536 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,359 that the palace can recover? Can Prince William start his 537 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,279 reign with a clean slate? Yes? I think as long 538 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,440 as they deal with this problem, cut Andrew loose and 539 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,000 the public is satisfied that justice is being served. William, 540 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,200 Kate and the young family are very popular. I think 541 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680 people are very much in step with what they want 542 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,039 to do, which is much more focused monarchy, working on 543 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,559 a few good deeds rather than more pomp and ceremony. Well, 544 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,160 that would be nice, do something for the English people 545 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,720 instead of them doing everything for you. We want the monarchy. 546 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200 We've seen how effective it can be in bringing the 547 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,599 nation together. The soft power for example when Donald Trump 548 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,799 was over. There's broad support for the monarchy, but it 549 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,480 does need to reform. Ironically, Andrew may be the person 550 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,440 to bring that change. Well, look, I hope so for 551 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:02,759 the monarchy's sake, but as far as I'm concerned, I 552 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,000 don't see a need for it. Again, I'm just some 553 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,000 American idiot, though, and you know it's not my tradition, 554 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:09,680 So I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, the 555 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400 monarchy should go away tomorrow. That's a decision for the 556 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,400 English people. But in my personal opinion, I don't know 557 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,079 why anybody looks at anyone who calls themselves royals or 558 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,519 whatever and thinks they're any better than the rest of us. 559 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,559 Cool story, bro, you hit the genetic lottery by being 560 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,079 born into that family. Great. They act like that's some 561 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 kind of flex, like they earned it. But the truth 562 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,680 is all Prince Andrew has ever earned is a disgrace 563 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,920 that he now finds himself in. All of the information 564 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440 that goes with this episode can be found in the 565 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,319 description box.