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<v Speaker 1>Good golly, ma Herschela Golly, we're back with the fire

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<v Speaker 1>Escape Cast. It is episode one hundred and twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking blizzard is starting in the Northeast once again. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>get out of this goddamn winter. Can't wait for better weather.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here as always with Dan Riker.

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<v Speaker 2>You're making me nostalgic for the previous ones that I

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<v Speaker 2>thought were bad but now in retrospect, are better than

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>You love it. That's what was the first one? The

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<v Speaker 1>first one?

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<v Speaker 3>Like ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was happening in Bradley crapping in Billy crapping,

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<v Speaker 2>Billy crapp.

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<v Speaker 1>In Okay, shit, you don't even remember his name? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you don't run into him in person.

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<v Speaker 3>Do something with Mary's name.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, let's dish with Mary Kish that works. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've I've told Dan there's a real tea

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<v Speaker 1>uh company called Whitkert And I can't not hear your

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<v Speaker 1>name with like a speech impediment.

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<v Speaker 3>Or like with the Mocking Baby, which yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I saw a bag I don't know what like.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a makeup bag someone brought into the

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<v Speaker 1>wine bar and it said kith k I t h

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<v Speaker 1>on it and I just cannot hear Mary's name with

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<v Speaker 1>a lisp. It's Mary Keith brought makeup what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>With you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Eh traveling got back from New York recently and that

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<v Speaker 2>was fun, very short, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You made it out just in time.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. Yeah, I heard there's some shit coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should uh specify we're recording. We all have

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<v Speaker 1>a busy few a month really coming up, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>recording this, uh much earlier than we usually do. And

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<v Speaker 1>what is today the twenty second of February. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm talking about a blizzard because I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 1>won't be one, hopefully when this episode goes up on

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<v Speaker 1>the third. Yeah, I was supposed to have a flight

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow still somehow has not been canceled, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>four flights per eating and preceding it are canceled, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they just haven't got around to canceling mine yet

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just starting the blizzard stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's barely even sticking yet, but like the wind

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely starting to pick up. There's some like snowflakes

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<v Speaker 1>going completely vertical.

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<v Speaker 2>I fight even without weather issues. In the last year,

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<v Speaker 2>like my travel has been a giant paint. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>used to never have delays or whole days at airports

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<v Speaker 2>because the things getting sucked up and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>everything just fucking sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing works the way it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been having a good like a streak of good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is just active. God, but it's it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like two feet of snow and we just

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<v Speaker 1>got over that other blizzard. I love talking about the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just do this the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>The weather that's like ten days dated by the Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people in fucking Miami are loving this. Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>well you both have. Dan, you were in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys have some travel coming up as well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, right, yeah, together, there's.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot coming up. But what I'm doing recently has

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<v Speaker 4>been getting really into reading books and then watching the

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<v Speaker 4>movie version of the book. Yeah, like Sphere, Twilight, actually

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<v Speaker 4>unapologetically like Twilight, and like watching the whole trilogy because

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<v Speaker 4>it's so absurd and such a ridiculous experience. Dan, have

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<v Speaker 4>you ever watched Twilight?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, No, I've never seen the movies or read the books.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>wolf man. There was a feud between like Billy and

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie or whatever, like the vampire and the werewolf or something,

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<v Speaker 2>because I remember like stories would have like Team Billy

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<v Speaker 2>tm Eddie h shirts and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob and Edward.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy is not in faul Billy, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Billy, I love you. I so you've never watched any

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<v Speaker 4>media of it. You haven't seen the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen a Twilight. I'm a grown as man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fall in with this nerdy internet stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't seen Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 4>No, oh, that's crazy important. But I would say the

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<v Speaker 4>first Twilight is culture. There was a cultural moment where

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<v Speaker 4>it was important to observe these ridiculous films, and they

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<v Speaker 4>get more ridiculous. Dan, I mean, I think you. You're

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<v Speaker 4>a fan of ridiculous media. I think you. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we should.

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<v Speaker 3>Rectify this a romance thing. I'm not really a romance

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<v Speaker 3>movie guy.

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<v Speaker 4>There's also death.

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<v Speaker 2>People are dying, like cool death like Schwartz and your

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<v Speaker 2>deaths or is it just death Shakespeare death?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think like they are a bit fantastical

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<v Speaker 4>about it. But people die, there's murder.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the funniest death in Twilight?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they're all pretty stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. At one point, Edward the vampire, he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>bite someone's neck and he accidentally bites their dick and

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know, I don't know how it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like a scary movie seven thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Edward's like, oh, whoops and pretends.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually it's the whole books are an allegory for

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<v Speaker 4>being secretly in the closet. Yeah, He's like, no, I'm not, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He is, Oh, yeah, I've seen you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the twilet movies, but I have seen

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<v Speaker 2>vampires suck. The parody movie of Twilight moving on porn Hub.

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<v Speaker 2>On the porn hub, Yeah, no, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>really bad. It was like it was like a sub

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<v Speaker 2>scary movie type thing, or like remember like Meet the Spartans,

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<v Speaker 2>like the three hundred parody. It was like below that

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<v Speaker 2>tier of a parody movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sex House tier.

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<v Speaker 3>No, sex House is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's that's s tire.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think the original feels like a parody, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think you would enjoy it only in the ridiculousness

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<v Speaker 4>of it. I don't think it's aged well either. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's this kind of outrageousness to the first one that

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<v Speaker 4>I think does warrant of you, but kind of want

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<v Speaker 4>to be there for it, Like I feel like it

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<v Speaker 4>will be a nice, like, uh experience. You'd have to

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<v Speaker 4>be in the right mood though, you know, drunk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone has to be accepting of this, if this absurd thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are other movies. I read handmaid Tale, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a new movie that just came out with Sidney Sweeney, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Handmaid's Tale.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, you're thinking of Handmaid's Tale. I'm saying the handmaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, handmaid because you said it.

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<v Speaker 4>Handmaiden I think is also one too, But I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the hand guest. No, not the Handmaid's Tale, which

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<v Speaker 4>is also a book.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about Bible Tale goes.

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<v Speaker 4>What's it called.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys, tell me you brought it up.

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<v Speaker 2>The Housemaids, The Housemaids Oka Midstale was the TV show

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<v Speaker 2>with the Madmen.

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<v Speaker 4>There's too many books about handmaids, maids, maidens, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just think that culturally we have to move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like what little women is no no address?

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<v Speaker 3>And they have the don't they have the frilly things

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<v Speaker 3>and they.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's like in a time where everybody dressed like that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not housemaids, they're just people.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone was just wearing frilly stuff back then.

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<v Speaker 4>They just wore frilly stuff back then. That was like

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, the pride and prejudice time where you

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<v Speaker 4>just like hoped to find a really good husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is a handmaid or a housemaid? Are they the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing? I've never thought of this concept.

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<v Speaker 3>In my life.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Handmaid in the in the uh in Margaret Atwood's book

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<v Speaker 1>and the show was like literally just like a as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I understand, a slave used to like breed.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just like doing stuff around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's the Handmaid's Tale. It's like a dystop future. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a dystoping future thing where like Mary, you might

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<v Speaker 1>know more than me a mana it's probably like bashing

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<v Speaker 1>your head against the wall. Let's going to me explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they're like used like specifically for breeding, like

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<v Speaker 1>in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait in the show, right, this isn't like a real

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<v Speaker 2>concept from like the eighteen hundred real things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a Handmaid's Tale is a dystopian fiction, right, Handmaid?

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what a handmaid is? And you

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<v Speaker 2>started talking about breeding and so wait, additional creation, right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, okay, I thought I was mad. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>In Handmaid's Tale, it is a it is a different

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<v Speaker 4>version of United States history where we get so conservative

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<v Speaker 4>and it's also really difficult to have babies. That anyone

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<v Speaker 4>who is of birthing age and viability gets given to

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<v Speaker 4>family is to make sure that they continue their lineage.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like it's like a mad man. Well, those six

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<v Speaker 1>women that she busts out.

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<v Speaker 2>And they got the mad men scientologist lady, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>And like that admaid? I thought that was a word

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<v Speaker 2>before that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think no, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Housemaid and then housemaide very different. Yeah, it's a modern.

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<v Speaker 3>Confusion, you see the confusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Different things will not help you in court, those socially you.

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<v Speaker 4>Would still get in trouble. So Housemaid is a psychological

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<v Speaker 4>thriller that I actually thought was akin to like a

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<v Speaker 4>Gone Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing the trailer in my head and I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick of Sydney Sweeney.

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<v Speaker 4>I well, this is how I would sell it is

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<v Speaker 4>and I and I know this is such an old,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, contrite thing to say, but like, the book

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<v Speaker 4>is so so good at manipulating the reader into not

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<v Speaker 4>knowing what's going to happen, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>twists and turns. It's very, very good. And I was

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<v Speaker 4>so excited after reading the book to watch the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>And the movie is not, unfortunately, like Gone Girl at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like it's bad. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had that experience a couple of times in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is really disappointing. I remember, like as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid loving Jurassic Park and reading The Lost World and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, I cannot wait to see this on the

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<v Speaker 2>big screen.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to mean the original Jurassic Park, because I

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna be like, boy, you're on your own, everybody

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<v Speaker 4>I read that.

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<v Speaker 3>I read the original as a kid, and I love

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<v Speaker 3>the original book.

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<v Speaker 4>But the original Jurassic Park is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, yeah, of course you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about, and Lost World is a terrible movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's just like it's not. It missed

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, nobody questions that. You'd be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fucking crazy how many huge movies came out of

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes writing really was conducive to that. I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>What's the contagion? Was that him? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll never forget Spear. Yeah, there's so many good ones.

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<v Speaker 4>And the bummers when you read a book and you

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<v Speaker 4>I bet it's going to be good. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>really defend that. But I was like, that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does annoying because like you'll get to part

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<v Speaker 2>see how they do this in the movie. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they didn't do half of it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>The worst is when it's both ends are terrible, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I remember before the Lord of the Rings

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<v Speaker 1>So, uh yeah, someone say something so stupid so quickly

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<v Speaker 2>Both very bad at what they do, it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not falling for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying objectively. I'm just saying to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings books and movies are terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say, like there's an element of like descriptor

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<v Speaker 4>that is in the Lord of the Rings, of like

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<v Speaker 4>describing the environments and the histories that are soup.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll spend eighty pages talking about a little the pumpkin

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<v Speaker 2>spin on the soup was so good, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>And then the movies are less exciting somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're not about soup at all. They don't even

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just look at Hill for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I will I'm not even gonna humor this conversation. What

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<v Speaker 1>else is new in your Oh we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a movie that I have not been able

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<v Speaker 2>to stop thinking about, Marty Supreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, we're about to watch that soon. Don't have

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<v Speaker 1>you said it seen it yet?

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that character, I think it's pretty good. I adore

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<v Speaker 3>that character.

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<v Speaker 2>He is such a carneye ass worker, piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, watch so much time as that guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Hearney, piece of shit is like fair. I think when

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<v Speaker 4>I walked away from that movie, I was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>that person is bad and I refuse to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>this is like a good person. And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are gonna walk away from that

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<v Speaker 4>movie and be like, what a cool characters the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same guy that thinks like Walter White or Scarface or

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<v Speaker 2>Don Draper are like aspirational characters. There's always gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>those people who take like argument, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but the worst guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know is going to be ken for Halloween or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, right, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Marty's is clearly a piece of shit in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I find him so fascinating. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>shallame is just chewing up this character. And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>longer movie, and I thought it just flew by, And

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<v Speaker 2>it's again in that genre. I like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the name of this. I don't even know if it

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<v Speaker 2>is a genre. We're talking about uncut gyms. If I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd kick you and now Marty Supreme wor anxiety Anxiety the.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie Good Time, Robert good time I loved the good Time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these are all by like Tafty, three of these

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<v Speaker 1>four from the same directors. No, this, this is only.

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<v Speaker 2>This is josh Joshua was uncut Jim's and this Benny

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<v Speaker 2>did Smashing Machine, which I heard was bad, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they were both on good Time. Yeah yeah, yeah, Gunny

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<v Speaker 2>stuff too, like I mean Benny and the Curse with

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<v Speaker 1>That for other good Time was in the news recently

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<v Speaker 1>for other reasons, but people can google that. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I legitimately think we might watch Marty Supreme after this recording.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think it's worth it. Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 4>recommend it for everybody. I just always like add this

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<v Speaker 4>caveat of like I hope people are recognizing kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like watching Fight Club, like this is not good And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a little worried that a lot of impressionable boys

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna watch this and be like, what a cool dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't imagine watching that movie and being like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be like that Marty guy, Like this

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<v Speaker 2>guy makes every bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Really the guy that said that fucking this movie was

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<v Speaker 4>like the most incredible movie of all time. Fight Club

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to watch it because it's so important.

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<v Speaker 4>Symbolism symbolism, symbolism doesn't understand the nuance of character.

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<v Speaker 3>It was twenty six years ago. Oh impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I recognize that I have a film degree, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Fike Club is satire about toxic masculinity.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that I have a degree.

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<v Speaker 4>You've learned it now. Guess what, your little fucking lizard

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<v Speaker 4>brain thought that that movie was cool and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that recently because the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>seth Rowlins was just doing like a GQ interview and

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<v Speaker 2>talking about his favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Movies, like, oh, absolutely, it's Fike Club. It's Fike Club.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Durton's like, I wonder what sef ceth Rowns just

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<v Speaker 2>still thinks it's cool?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I know what Fight Club? Has I

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<v Speaker 2>read the book. I've read the book after I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>There, Yeah, I the deal is there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Another book that I read, it's a real short story.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this one I really do recommend is called The

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<v Speaker 4>Life of Chuck and it was recently also adapted into

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<v Speaker 4>a film. And the film I saw like a trailer

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<v Speaker 4>for the film, and I was like, Oh, I'd like

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<v Speaker 4>to read the I just think it would be neat

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<v Speaker 4>to try this again because I had a bad one

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<v Speaker 4>with The Housemaid and I was like, I can read

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<v Speaker 4>and then enjoy a movie, and I hope this is better.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually written by Stephen King, which is interesting, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's short. This is another thing I love about books

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<v Speaker 4>because sometimes I don't want to read something that's going

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<v Speaker 4>to take me four hundred hours. This is a short

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<v Speaker 4>story about a person who's dying, and it's basically going

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<v Speaker 4>through the phases of their life and it goes backwards,

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<v Speaker 4>so it starts in Act three when he's dying, and

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<v Speaker 4>then Act two and then Act one is the is

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<v Speaker 4>the final chapter. And it's great. It's like a really

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<v Speaker 4>good slice of life of like what happens in a world.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine that when you die, because the universe is how

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<v Speaker 4>you perceive it, Dan that when you die, the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Ends solidistic way of Yeah, so it's like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is like you're dying, which means like the world is

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<v Speaker 1>actually crumbling because it was made for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway. I love I love this concept and I loved

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<v Speaker 4>this short story and so yet again I pull everyone

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<v Speaker 4>together and I say, this short story was so good,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's watch the movie. And this movie is a real

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<v Speaker 4>tough watch. It's called The Life Tom and it's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's well acted. That's not the problem. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a book that really struggles to be

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<v Speaker 4>a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, Mike, Yeah, why did he I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing non horror stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this has an interesting story. So this kind of

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<v Speaker 4>occurred as a miracle. I think Stephen King does the

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<v Speaker 4>opener in the book, which is interesting to uh like

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<v Speaker 4>a like an audio not a book. And apparently, like

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<v Speaker 4>this is one of those things where it was like

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<v Speaker 4>impossible to even have this movie be made because it

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<v Speaker 4>just so happened that it was May It was written

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<v Speaker 4>by Mike Flanagan during a time where all the screen

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<v Speaker 4>writers were on strike and so it couldn't exist. And

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<v Speaker 4>it was also like a twenty twenty like COVID situation,

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<v Speaker 4>so nobody could make anything for multiple reasons. And Mike Flanagan,

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<v Speaker 4>because of where he was at the time, he was

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to write the screenplay adaptation of this book, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it was constructed at a time when nothing else

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<v Speaker 4>could be made, and that's why they made this film.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it shouldn't have existed. It's like a miracle that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Came out during the pandemic, right.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think it just it just kind of was

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<v Speaker 4>one of those like threading a needle situations where it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, well, we already have the screenplay because it

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<v Speaker 4>was allowed to be written by this very specific person

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<v Speaker 4>at this very specific time, and so when they were

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<v Speaker 4>coming back into the world, it was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>few screenplays that was greenlit.

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<v Speaker 3>To go okay, and it was cheap but not good.

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<v Speaker 4>No, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't suffer like The Housemaid. It's it's it is

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<v Speaker 4>built for a book. That is how I feel. When

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<v Speaker 4>you read it, you will be like, oh, there's so

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<v Speaker 4>much nuance. You can understand all what the characters are thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>This character is dying, right, so it's like going into

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<v Speaker 4>going into their past. It's telling you, like why they're

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<v Speaker 4>doing the wacky things that they're doing. Eventually, like the

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<v Speaker 4>idea is like this character does like a really good

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<v Speaker 4>dance on a public square and everyone's like why is

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<v Speaker 4>this guy dance so good? And it's like, well, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that, you know, I like loved dancing and

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a band as a youth, and this

428
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<v Speaker 4>brings me back to my youth. And you can't fucking

429
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<v Speaker 4>have any of those conversations in a movie. So he's

430
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<v Speaker 4>just dancing in a public square.

431
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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that, like I was reading the

432
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<v Speaker 2>Stephen King Short Story collection over the last year or so,

433
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<v Speaker 2>and like that is a crazy thing about books that

434
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<v Speaker 2>they have over movies, is like they got the huge

435
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<v Speaker 2>downside and that you can't see the things that are happening.

436
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a downside in the fact that you can't

437
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<v Speaker 4>see them.

438
00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:40.720
<v Speaker 2>That's a downside, but it does have an upside in that,

439
00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:42.720
<v Speaker 2>like you can hear so much more of what's in

440
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<v Speaker 2>their head. Like you can do narrating in a movie,

441
00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:47.039
<v Speaker 2>but that's like a couple of lines here and there

442
00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to set up a scene or something. This one, you

443
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<v Speaker 2>can have pages and pages of what a character is thinking,

444
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<v Speaker 2>which movies don't typically do, I.

445
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<v Speaker 4>Mean not well, right, Like if you're having a constant voiceover.

446
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<v Speaker 4>That's like this makes Dan angry. Yeah, because as a

447
00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:06.279
<v Speaker 4>child he didn't like when his pumpkin soup was described

448
00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:09.319
<v Speaker 4>for four pages, so he's getting more angry as he's

449
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<v Speaker 4>really It's like you need that context to understand a character.

450
00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.680
<v Speaker 4>That's why, like maybe we're saying, Michael Crichton's books are

451
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<v Speaker 4>so much better as adaptations than a lot of other

452
00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.559
<v Speaker 4>writers because he writes for action, probably more than he

453
00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.559
<v Speaker 4>writes what's in your mind. This book is one hundred

454
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<v Speaker 4>percent what every character is thinking and feeling. And so

455
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<v Speaker 4>as a movie, I was like, this is impossible to explain.

456
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<v Speaker 4>And now I don't think I could ever invite people

457
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<v Speaker 4>over again and be like, we have to watch this

458
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<v Speaker 4>movie because I've done two bombs in a row.

459
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<v Speaker 3>You know what you gotta do. Reset with mcgoover.

460
00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna reset with Twilight. I feel like that's going

461
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<v Speaker 4>to be my saving grace.

462
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<v Speaker 2>I will watch it with you know, Mary, if we

463
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<v Speaker 2>like get back to the BnB in New Orleans or

464
00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:54.079
<v Speaker 2>something and it's just a thing where we all just

465
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<v Speaker 2>want to like hang out for another couple hours and

466
00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>just chill out with some drinks or something. I will

467
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<v Speaker 2>not bock at Twilight Light. If you want to force

468
00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 2>us all the watch Twilight. Okay, all right, I'm just

469
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.519
<v Speaker 2>just putting out there and New Ormans spooky town. They

470
00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Speaker 2>probably dealt with vampires at some point.

471
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<v Speaker 4>It'll be it could be pretty fun to do. Hanted tour.

472
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I did one once. It's not that great.

473
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I did one that was like pretty well

474
00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 2>rated and stuff, but it's still like you're just kind

475
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<v Speaker 2>of walking around and they pointed buildings and they're like.

476
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you weren't drunk enough. That's a problem.

477
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<v Speaker 3>I was.

478
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<v Speaker 2>We actually left half way through the tour because we

479
00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>were we were just like halfway through tour and we

480
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<v Speaker 2>were just kind of bored, as me and Biank were

481
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:38.319
<v Speaker 2>there on our honeymoon, and uh, We're just kind of

482
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.279
<v Speaker 2>bored and we're outside and all of a sudden we

483
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<v Speaker 2>heard Dan Biaka and we looked up and you guys

484
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>might know Brian Voorr used to be a game informer

485
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.559
<v Speaker 2>and he was just up on a balcony having dinner.

486
00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Like Brian, and so he didn't know he was in town.

487
00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.640
<v Speaker 2>He was in down for WrestleMania which was ching up,

488
00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, we just left the tour and went

489
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<v Speaker 2>up and on out with Brian.

490
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<v Speaker 1>So did they let you swear? Could could you swear?

491
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<v Speaker 1>On the tour.

492
00:22:58.400 --> 00:22:59.319
<v Speaker 3>I see where this is going.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Those fuckers come out of the ceiling.

494
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is this is your trip. So

495
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I will, I will. I am game for anything. I

496
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>would do a Haunted tour. I will just say someone

497
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>who's done him not the most exciting.

498
00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.119
<v Speaker 4>I did one and I liked it. I think it's

499
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:16.200
<v Speaker 4>all in your headspace.

500
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this tour where you go to Nicholas Cage's pyramid

501
00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>that he's gonna get buried in, because that's all right.

502
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.759
<v Speaker 4>I went to Nicholas Cage's house. There always has to

503
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:28.039
<v Speaker 4>be a Nicholas Cage segment because this guy's fucking weird

504
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:30.799
<v Speaker 4>and has a lot of property in New Orleans.

505
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Any bar you go into, Mary, I want to take

506
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 2>you to a few different bars that, like, they all

507
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.079
<v Speaker 2>have all these frame photos of Nicolas Cage all over

508
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:38.279
<v Speaker 2>because he's just constantly there.

509
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Apparently Charle is there a lot too.

510
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.799
<v Speaker 4>He got in a big fight. I saw his videos

511
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:45.559
<v Speaker 4>he got arrested.

512
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw shirtless and tattooed, looking very drunk and

513
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>got his ass beat.

514
00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:51.039
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, it just does.

515
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Not seem like he's doing well. No, anytime I hear

516
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 1>anything about him, Yeah, No, what was that movie Peanut

517
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>butter Falcon?

518
00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, I heard about him.

519
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Tough Time to be a wife abuser. Yes, he's like

520
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking notoriously known that he's like been a piece of

521
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:13.720
<v Speaker 4>ship to every woman he's ever been. Fuck Shia Lab,

522
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.920
<v Speaker 4>he seems like every name is. I don't care. I

523
00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.480
<v Speaker 4>have like no patience for that ship. I will not

524
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.759
<v Speaker 4>be yet for that man.

525
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Strong anti abuse, Wow.

526
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Speaker 4>I have a real strong opinion about it.

527
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Fucking police are gonna be at your door momentarily.

528
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.559
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I would.

529
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Love to beat up Shia Lab.

530
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<v Speaker 4>We're closer to The Handmaid every day now, Dan. Just

531
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.440
<v Speaker 4>so you know, that's the one where women are being

532
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.960
<v Speaker 4>told to sleep with other men, not the one where

533
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 4>they're cleaning.

534
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<v Speaker 1>We know, Mike, Yeah, weird thing to say in any context.

535
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember why I said that, Probably thinking about

536
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 1>The Handmaid's Tell we watched. I think I told you Dan,

537
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we watched Roadhouse after mcgruber a couple of weeks ago.

538
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.039
<v Speaker 1>The movie's still so fucking good.

539
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a perfect day.

540
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>He really a guy's thrown out and then pulls the

541
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 1>body into the water and yells fuck you across the river.

542
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Terry funk is in it.

543
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>There's the the do you know the thing with Bill

544
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Murray and uh and and and the sex scene and that.

545
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he calls the guys the woman's her, like,

546
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't know me. Your wife's getting pushed up against

547
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the wall by Patrick Swayze right now we're all watching. Yeah,

548
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>she's not putting up too much of a fight. Yeah,

549
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 1>I think you said that on a Parts Unknown episode.

550
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>There's pain, don't hurt. There's a god.

551
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Man, I haven't seen Roadhouse in a couple of years.

552
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 2>It's I didn't come to that one until way late.

553
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really know a lot of swayzey stuff until

554
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Bawk and I watch a bunch of them for old podcast,

555
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and like, holy shit, dirty dancing Roadhouse Like he had

556
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>had a charisma to him.

557
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>That ship was really good.

558
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was awesome. How old was he when he died?

559
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Like he was young? It was pancreatic cancer.

560
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah that's a shame. Yeah, yeah, thirty nine or something

561
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 5>like no, no, no, wo, no way that young. I

562
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 5>would say fifties. Oh okay, yeah, he was fifty seven.

563
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 5>It was barely missed it by twenty years.

564
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 1>It's almost twice to start spreading rumors that he died

565
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in thirty nine. The myths will grow. Do you guys

566
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about video games?

567
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

568
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

569
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, no, Mike important, Mike.

570
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I caught it, Jake, we didn't come off,

571
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>We didn't no break yet. I have a note, all

572
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>my notes of games to talk on here, but at

573
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 2>the top I have bolded and I don't know why.

574
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Fire Escape, Mike friend fart Walmart.

575
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the Walmart microphone.

576
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.240
<v Speaker 3>He Mike texted me exaid for mine. I can't say that,

577
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 3>and I typed it into my notes doc.

578
00:26:57.319 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those stories that I somehow forgot

579
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>about and once you hear it, you'll be surprised. I

580
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 1>forgot about it. But it came up when I was

581
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Amanda and I were out the other day. I was like,

582
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I haven't told you this before. She

583
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:09.799
<v Speaker 1>had not heard it. One of my friends, who you

584
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 1>guys know, hometown friends. I guess I could say his

585
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>first name, ah, full name, Yeah, it's Nico. You guys

586
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>have met him in the wedding party. I there's not

587
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>much of a setup. We were going camping one night

588
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and my grandpa's woods. But we were going to a

589
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Walmart in my hometown before driving to where my grandpa lived,

590
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like forty five minutes away. And we went into Walmart,

591
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and the idea was that we needed to buy like

592
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a Coleman lantern, and I think, like a some like

593
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 1>old school like popcorn, the ones you put over the fire,

594
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the tinfoil. And so someone came up over the loudspeakers

595
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>in Walmart, just saying an announcement, like someone, can you

596
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>please return to Isle whatever? And I told Nico, was like,

597
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you fifty dollars if you go fart into

598
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the microphone so the whole store can hear it. He's

599
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.319
<v Speaker 1>like all right, and he kind of broke off to

600
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>go toward where we think the microphone was, over near

601
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the customer service center or whatever. I thought he was

602
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 1>just joking and pretending to go over there. So I

603
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, I'll see you at the camping equipment.

604
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I three minutes later, not that long, I

605
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 1>was just looking through the campy equipment. All of a sudden,

606
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>over the loudspeakers of Walmart, I hear the two people

607
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>at the gun and ammunition counter nearby, like I know

608
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't the only when I heard it, because they're

609
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like very confused looks on their face because someone clearly

610
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>just farted over the loudspeakers. And I went walking around

611
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Walmart to try to find him for like a good

612
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes, and this is Walmart, so it's fairly large,

613
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't. I was like, Okay, I got the

614
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>camp equipment, I'll meet him back, get him, I'll meet

615
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 1>him back at the car. Apparently like three peep staff

616
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>members just saw it and kicked him out. So I

617
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>get back to the car and I technically owe him

618
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars. However, he wasn't there to buy some of

619
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the camping equipment, so I think it evened out. So

620
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I just bought all the camping equipment the call so he.

621
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Farted, which is really funny and you should tip for that.

622
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he bought the camp equipment with the fart money.

623
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, he technically it went toward the campy equipment

624
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>earned every It was such a funny little fart too.

625
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't funnier option because like, you don't need big,

626
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>flappy record setting fart. It's just like the act of

627
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>doing it in the microphone is the funny thing bought.

628
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Whole tearing fart would have been really funny in its

629
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>own way.

630
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, yes, of course, but yeah.

631
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I met it was astounded and I told her I

632
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was sorry for it. I don't. I think it was

633
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 1>just such a busy day and we went camping later

634
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 1>that day that like the wrinkle in my brain hadn't

635
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>properly set in. I was like, oh my god, I

636
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>forgot this happened. And Nico did this, so that that

637
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was him.

638
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<v Speaker 3>I wish I would have known that before I met him.

639
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<v Speaker 3>I would have figured his hand.

640
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was nice, What a cool dude. It makes

641
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<v Speaker 4>you never want to speak into one of those speakers,

642
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<v Speaker 4>because I actually don't think that's a rare story. I

643
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<v Speaker 4>have seen videos of people farting into those before. It's

644
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 4>a it's a classic bit, and so I just feel

645
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<v Speaker 4>like those those phones are probably covered in farts.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I've farted into microphones before, but always

647
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<v Speaker 2>my personal microphones.

648
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it would.

649
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You'd be forgiven for saying it's unsanitary.

650
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.319
<v Speaker 4>Even this is my microphone. I'll fart into it as

651
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<v Speaker 4>much as I want.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've probably farted into this one, Harry, but not

653
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<v Speaker 2>like a public.

654
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<v Speaker 4>Heat Jesus, it's so high.

655
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh but maybe the last house when it was like

656
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<v Speaker 2>just on a little stand or something. I'm sure there's

657
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<v Speaker 2>an old stream where I just farted into the mic

658
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>or something, and it's probably the same one.

659
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<v Speaker 1>That's really good. It's farts are so funny.

660
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 3>It's the bunniest thing.

661
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any movie, Name one movie, any movie, and I'll

662
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<v Speaker 1>tell you whether a fart would have made it better.

663
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<v Speaker 2>At point nutt a professor, infinitely better, keep on, they

664
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>needed a couple more.

665
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Infinitely better. If he's like if she he's trying, like

666
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>fitting her for the dress and then she just rips one,

667
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I might I should let out the butt

668
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

669
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<v Speaker 2>I want to see an edit of the Drinker milkshake

670
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>thing from there will we blood and just like put

671
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>in little firsts to punctuate everything.

672
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I still like love the fact that We Hot American

673
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Summer has the fart edit on the DVD.

674
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I haven't bonus yet.

675
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>It's good.

676
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm in clips of it. That's a great idea.

677
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 1>It's really good. Like they jumped the shark very early on, though,

678
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>like whoever was doing it was very trigger happy. So

679
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 1>like in like the second scene when Coop, when Coop

680
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and Katie are going to I think lunch or something,

681
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>or in the mess hall, every step he takes on

682
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the grass like it desensitizes you really quickly.

683
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>We should do like one hundred dollars Patreon tier for

684
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the podcast that is just fart edits of every episode

685
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and Jake can just go nuts with it.

686
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that won'll take him long at all to

687
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>make this.

688
00:31:58.839 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 4>He's going to be real trigger.

689
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 1>We should watch the fart cut of at some point

690
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>for I would like like watch on all right, do

691
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about video games now?

692
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

693
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, I'm excited to talk about Residuval Requiem.

694
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 1>We Dan, you've finished the games of now mayor you started.

695
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>I have not touched it, but I do have many

696
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>questions curiosities. I was telling you guys before this. I well,

697
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>first off, we're not We're gonna avoid anything spoilery at all.

698
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to lay the groundwork here so people

699
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what we're going to talk about.

700
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Some people have different versions of what a spoiler is,

701
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 4>and so obviously even speaking about the game could be

702
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 4>a spoiler to some people, So give us specifics so

703
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 4>people know whether or not they want to skip ahead.

704
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 2>So if you were the type that avoids spoilers, doesn't

705
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 2>want to know anything, like, for instance, Mike said something

706
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>before recording that like, oh, you didn't even know that.

707
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>That's been like the main part of the marketing, Like

708
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>stop now, stop now, and keep pass forwarding for a while,

709
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>because we're gonna talk about this the game for a bit.

710
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 2>If you are fine with us talking about things that

711
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>have been shown in the trailers and talked about in

712
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>the marketing, that is what we're gonna do. So I

713
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>beat the game, I don't. I'm not gonna talk about

714
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 2>any story stuff that goes beyond stuff that was in

715
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the in the trailers of the marketing or anything. We

716
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>were gonna be talking about the format, which again, that

717
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 2>is stuff that they really went over in the marketing

718
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit, you know, the perspective stuff, the different

719
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>characters and things like that, and as far as like

720
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the location in all the trailers and all that stuff

721
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you've seen, they're showing this one area, this medical it's

722
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>called the Rhodes Hill Chronic Care Center. That is the

723
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>area that they show in the marketing, we're gonna talk

724
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>about the stuff there because that is a big chunk

725
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 2>of the early hours of the game, So we will

726
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 2>talk about the things that happened there. Again, nothing, We're

727
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>not gonna reveal boss fights or characters or anything that

728
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't shown already in the marketing. So if you've seen

729
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>the trailers of the marketing, we're not gonna go much

730
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>past that. Obviously we'll give opinions and stuff on that,

731
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 2>but like we're not going to go deep into the

732
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 2>back half of the game and things like that.

733
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's fair. I think this is a

734
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 4>good overview. So if you followed the marketing, you're p

735
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 4>probably fine anyway.

736
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Or even just watch the trailers, because I just watched

737
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>the trailers and the stuff we're going to talk about

738
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>here is like shit that was in there.

739
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Now. I I historically I do not watch trailers of

740
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 4>a game that I know is going to come out

741
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 4>because I like to have that, like I opening jaw

742
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 4>dropping moment when I see stuff. So everybody has a

743
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 4>different vibe with it. But I think we can generally

744
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>talk about this game in a way that won will

745
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>not harm your experience of it. In any way and

746
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 4>only add to the hype if it's cool. I would

747
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 4>like to start and preface this that I keep getting

748
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 4>very confused which Resident Evil it is because they are

749
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 4>using words instead of numbers.

750
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Now, it's what's confusing about that you had seven, inche

751
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you had I always think seven and villages are the

752
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>same thing.

753
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 3>There's seven photos.

754
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Just get stuck again, rest my case.

755
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Tss my case biohazard. Originally when they announced it did

756
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 1>not it was Resident Evil seven biohazard, and then they

757
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>like sort of the actual seven separate.

758
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 3>From it, just called Resident Evil biohazard. Is that what.

759
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It's I'm almost positive it was seven at first, like

760
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 1>actually called Resnel seven.

761
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 2>The the V I I the v I isten in there, yeah,

762
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and the village was the G the eight and it

763
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>was a v I I oh yea yeah, village v

764
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I I I Yeah. And then this one is Renine

765
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Wim it's in the que.

766
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>The nine is the Q. It's nine.

767
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>That's annoying, but it's nine. And I for context, I

768
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have not watched any trailers like you just told me.

769
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay again, you should not be listening now if you

770
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 1>don't want to know anything about the game. I you

771
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>mentioned I thought it was all first person. Like the

772
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>whole game seven.

773
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is the gimmick of this time is

774
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that it's Grace Ashcroft.

775
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

776
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I really really have avoided anything and everything about this

777
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 1>game as much as possible, aside from the fact that

778
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it's back in Raccoon City and Leon's in it.

779
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well you're that's a whole weird take. Like all

780
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>of the early marketing was you're in this medical facility,

781
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>it's first person, you're Grace Ashcroft. Like the Leon stuff

782
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>was a late reveal.

783
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I know random weird stuff about it. I don't,

784
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know that Leon's sections were third person.

785
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, So the whole gimmick here is like this is

786
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>like an everything bagel of a game.

787
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 3>This is a like you know, it's okay.

788
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>You can name any of the numbered resident evils and

789
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 2>there's clear inspiration here, like the Grace sections are like okay,

790
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's a lot from seven. It's a lot of

791
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the first person sneaking around kind of classic kind of

792
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the classic finding keys and mar of like one, two, three,

793
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 2>and then you also have kind of the omnipresent kind

794
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>of stalking you around bigger enemies like Nemesis from three,

795
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>like Lady Dematrescue You from eight, like the dad from

796
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Mister X from two remake, you know that, the dad

797
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 2>from Biohazards. So like there's that stuff going on, and

798
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>then you're Leon and it's open shoulder. Now you can

799
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you can switch either if you're play both as first person.

800
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 2>If you want to play both as third person, you

801
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 2>can now. They do strongly prefer like there's a pop

802
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>up that says like, you should probably keep it this way,

803
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you should probably do first person for

804
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Grace and third person for Leon. I agree, I did try.

805
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I swapped back and forth. It just feels better, like

806
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 2>don't fuck with the perspective thing. It's kind of cool

807
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. So like the Leon stuff over

808
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the shoulder, Tetris inventory kind of the curved health bar

809
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. It is all four or five like that

810
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>type of stuff. And then Grace is limited inventory. It's

811
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the kind of like EKG you know, fine Dangers pockets.

812
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 4>She has like six slots. It's impossible to carry anything

813
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 4>with her.

814
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Those those hip pouches.

815
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>But again, that's that's harkening back to Reson evul one

816
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 2>is like I just remember being Jill and having eight

817
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>spots and like that's what this feels like here, you know.

818
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So it is just everything that's ever been in like

819
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 2>the Numbered Core series, all thrown into one game. Even

820
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>there is one section Mary, you haven't gotten there yet,

821
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>and I won't give you specifics, but it's kind of six.

822
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit of RA six, which sucks ass six.

823
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>But like there is a section that's very short and

824
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 2>this one and I'm like, oh, this is like pretty

825
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>much this sixth section, and they kind of did. It's

826
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a fun little side.

827
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the game?

828
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I love this game?

829
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I love this Now here's here's my main issue

830
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>with it, And it is so both parts are so good.

831
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>The Gray stuff and the Leon stuff is so good.

832
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>But because you are going back and forth between these perspectives,

833
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're getting like forty percent of two

834
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>different really good games.

835
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, for instance, I prefer the Grace stuff.

836
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>My favorite part of this entire game was the first

837
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>few hours in the care Center, when it's just kind

838
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>of really spooky first person horror. It's almost like Amnesia

839
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 2>style horror, where it's like you are underpowered, You're hiding,

840
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you've got lights, You're trying to like hide

841
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>in the light and stuff like that. It's very like

842
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of amnesia survival horror. And then she has two bullets,

843
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 2>like the whole time, she has a.

844
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Shitty knife that breaks.

845
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you go to Leon and it is

846
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>fun itchy and scratchy, goofy town. It is like you

847
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>are kicking chainsaws into doctor's faces and equipping about it

848
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, which is hilarious. It is like it is

849
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>this funny power fantasy thing where it's like you'll clear

850
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 2>an area as Grace and then you'll go back in

851
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>there as Leon and suddenly you have like fucking double

852
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>rocket launcher shotguns and shit, and you just fuck all

853
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you like all these things that were just absolutely terrifying

854
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you as Grace. You're suddenly super overpowered dude, which is

855
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>it's it is almost kind of cathartic. A couple times

856
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it is like, Okay, go back into that spot as Lee, Yeah, because.

857
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 4>You're not scared as Leon. And it's it's not just

858
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:38.239
<v Speaker 4>in the mechanics, it's in their performance. And I really

859
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 4>want to express like Grace has severe anxiety I don't

860
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 4>know how she made it as an FBI agent. She

861
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 4>should not be in that position. And she stutters and

862
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 4>constantly throughout this game. She cannot she can barely get

863
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 4>a sentence out, she can barely speak, she cannot function.

864
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 4>She is not mentally equipped for this experience. And so

865
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 4>when you were playing as her, you are mimicking that.

866
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 4>As a player, you were like, you can hear her

867
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 4>breath stutter. Every time she enters a room, when something

868
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 4>scary happens, she panics. You'll hear her panic. When Leon

869
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 4>walks into a room, he's like, first of all, he's

870
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 4>making some kind of you know, silly quip about like

871
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, catch this, you know, not too

872
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 4>bad for a Tuesday. I'll have what she's having. And

873
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 4>he's like constantly doing really funny stuff without a fear

874
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 4>in the world. I find it interesting how much more

875
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 4>afraid I was playing as her. Yeah, not just mechanically

876
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 4>they limited me, but I took on her personality and

877
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.320
<v Speaker 4>I was afraid as her. Coming back as Leon makes

878
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 4>you feel like you're a superhero.

879
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of funny, like did she is this

880
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>FBI agent and they send her into this like incredibly

881
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>terrible situation, and it's just kind of.

882
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Like, what do I do?

883
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, you know, did she get that job?

884
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>She can't?

885
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 2>And why do they send her to that hotel because

886
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>she has a history of that hotel that is not great.

887
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think she would have been the best

888
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>person to send there for a variety of reasons.

889
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 4>Any sense that they sent her and that she has

890
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 4>the job that she has. But I do think I

891
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 4>had a similar reaction to it as you Dan, which

892
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 4>is it feels awesome to re tread space as a

893
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 4>strong character. But I feel like I'm playing two separate games.

894
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I prefer to play as Grace. I think it's more

895
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 4>interesting to limit me as a player and make me

896
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 4>make very specific decisions of what I will do with

897
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 4>my precious space and if I will make precious bullets.

898
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Like Mike, when you and I played these old games,

899
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, what do you mean that this

900
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 4>will met me? Six bullets? That's so few? And You're

901
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 4>like that's more than enough, Mary, Like six bullets is

902
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 4>gonna save you?

903
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

904
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 4>In this game, you're constantly given maybe two to three

905
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 4>bullets per enemy, And there were times where my knife

906
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 4>was on five percent. I had two bullets to my name,

907
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I genuinely don't know how I'm

908
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 4>going to get through this. I find that, yes, specifically

909
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 4>as grace as leon, I feel like they're giving you

910
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 4>more more than enough crap to get through that game.

911
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 4>And to me, the leon areas feel very five to

912
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 4>six and the grace areas feel very one two three.

913
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 2>They just do so they jumping back and forth the

914
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>longer stretches, so like the my favorite part of the

915
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>game is a long grace section at the beginning of

916
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the game, which Mary has played through. Like that is

917
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>my favorite part and something I think is really cool here,

918
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>like the place where it does feel like not just

919
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of this game is like the Greatest

920
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Heads of Resident evil moments and feelings and stuff. The

921
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>thing that does feel like kind of moving forward is

922
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>these characters will have they describe like these characters like

923
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 2>retaining some semblance of their past selves and stuff. So

924
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 2>their behavior and stuff is like there's maids that will

925
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 2>like wander around and let's say you exploded a fucking

926
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 2>enemy and when this maid will walk in and be like, ooh,

927
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 2>made up mess, and like go into like a berserk

928
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 2>mode and stuff like that.

929
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Or then there's like these usher type guys that kind

930
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 3>of work the halls and they're like, go to turn

931
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 3>the light stuff. We gotta turn the light stuff.

932
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>And so you can kind of lure them around by

933
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 2>like turning on a light and then hiding behind a

934
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>table or something, and then he comes to turn the

935
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>light off and you can whatever. There's a shift that

936
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>is like a larger enemy.

937
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>See I did see this too, weirdly enough.

938
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the chef is a great example here too,

939
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>where it's like one of my favorite things is like

940
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 2>there's a sense of like you really want to clear

941
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 2>rooms out because this is a big, interconnected area. It's

942
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.559
<v Speaker 2>like the mansion basically, and like there are thoroughfares and

943
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 2>stuff where it's like, man, fuck, I gotta walk in

944
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>these hallways near the kitchen a lot, and this fucker,

945
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the chef is always here. So like, okay, you could

946
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 2>avoid him every fucking time you go there, or you

947
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 2>can try to get in a gunfight with him and

948
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>kill him. We're just gonna eat through a ton of

949
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>AMMO and stuff. But then there's this thing I love.

950
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>It's called the like hemelytic injector where it's basically like

951
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the syringe that you can fill up. Like you find

952
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 2>these like puddles of affected blood. It might be in

953
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a bathtub, it might just be a pool on the floor,

954
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's like a currency basically, and you can use

955
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it to craft things. And this injector thing you can

956
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 2>craft is a syringe that will like basically most enemies

957
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 2>just make them explode like a fucking water balloon of

958
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 2>blood with one injector. You just sneak up behind him,

959
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>pop them and then they are just nothing but vistra

960
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and like blood all.

961
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Over the walls.

962
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>So you really but it costs quite a bit to

963
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>make these, so like they are a very you know, precious.

964
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're a precious resource.

965
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>So you have to decide, like I'm not gonna like, okay,

966
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>this room in the corner, maybe I'm not gonna be

967
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>going through there that much. I'll just sneak by this guy.

968
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll save my resources. But then there's that fucking chef

969
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I gotta kill this motherfucker. I

970
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want to get a gunfight. He's probably gonna take

971
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty bullets and it's gonna be a shitty fight, So

972
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I snuck up on him. I put the injector in

973
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>his neck. Fucking exploded that guy. And it's like, oh,

974
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>now I just don't have to worry about that guy anymore.

975
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Like you clear, like it is persistent, you clear rooms out,

976
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>and then suddenly you don't have to worry about it.

977
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 4>That's what. Yeah, very funny because that's very different than

978
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>my experience.

979
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>What do you do to the chef?

980
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I killed him as Leon?

981
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh so you didn't even you just avoided him as

982
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Grace the entire time.

983
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 4>I am a little baby, Oh horrible spit. I avoided

984
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 4>him completely. And then when I was Leon, I was like,

985
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 4>let's go bitch.

986
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 3>And oh that's cool. You're coming with a shotgun or something.

987
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 4>And I had a very very different play through than

988
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:25.639
<v Speaker 4>you did.

989
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>That's that's really cool. Like they like that type of stuff.

990
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I think is so awesome, and like you do have

991
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 2>to consider all this. It's not just avoid or kill.

992
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 2>There are things like you know the crimson Head system

993
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and are one remake where if you leave it by

994
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 2>they burn it. They come back. Well, now they're fucking

995
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>blister heads and they are scarier than the crimson Heads.

996
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 2>They are going to fuck chase you and scream, and

997
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 2>they're fast and they're harder to kill. They got these big, blister,

998
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.400
<v Speaker 2>fucked up heads and stuff. So it's like, even if

999
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you do decide like all right, I'm gonna use my

1000
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.559
<v Speaker 2>gun and I'm gonna shoot my way through this lounge

1001
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.119
<v Speaker 2>area here, well great, those are bodies that every time

1002
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 2>you go into this room in the future, you're gonna

1003
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 2>be worried that they're gonna fucking pop up and be

1004
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 2>even this time around. So it's like you really got

1005
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to choose, like when do you want to use those

1006
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>injectors and like that. It was so fun, just like

1007
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 2>being strategic about the areas you're going through and which

1008
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>ones you need to clear out clear out, which ones

1009
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 2>you need to clear out for now, and which ones

1010
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna avoid and kind of tiptoe past like

1011
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>that ship really.

1012
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Worked for me.

1013
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Honestly that I think the game that did that better

1014
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 1>than Resident Evil was Signalius, and you both played it

1015
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that you had to be really careful with resources as well,

1016
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>so it's nice to hear that resin Evils kind of

1017
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 1>getting back to that, because Village you don't really ever

1018
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not wanting for Ammo and Village If Memory Served

1019
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>seven was a little bit more survival focus, but like, yeah, yeah,

1020
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for this. I can't wait to play it.

1021
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also like, yeah, I've I've been trying to

1022
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>see as little as possible about it. I'm takes a

1023
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>big man to fall on his sword and you know,

1024
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>ask you guys questions and let people know. So I'm

1025
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 1>happy to be that really, really really big man. Yeah,

1026
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about racist sections on a scale of

1027
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 1>sneaking through the boat house with Margareite in seven and

1028
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the umbilical baby thing in.

1029
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Village, great question because you get both both. You talk

1030
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 2>about umbilical baby, there's there's something terrifying. Well, there's a

1031
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 2>few fuckers in that care center that are big, scary

1032
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 2>fuckers that like, you're not really.

1033
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Such a good job. I actually kind of like Dan

1034
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 4>your comparison to everything Bagel. I feel like they said, hey,

1035
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 4>what are our favorite parts of all of these games

1036
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 4>and gave you a little taste of all of it.

1037
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes my only complaint really was I was like, oh,

1038
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 4>I felt like this should be more. It's so cool

1039
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 4>what you've constructed, but it's just a sliver of this

1040
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 4>game because they're doing so many things, but there are

1041
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 4>multiple batties in this game that I was like, you

1042
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 4>are inspired from previous games, and you are also inspired

1043
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 4>from some of the craziest horror movies I have ever seen,

1044
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 4>and Dan, I think you probably know which one I'm

1045
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.519
<v Speaker 4>talking about, but there is like a boss where I

1046
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh shit, you were clearly inspired by a

1047
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 4>really good horror movie.

1048
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I might not know because I don't play or I

1049
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>don't watch a ton of horror movies, so I might

1050
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:14.039
<v Speaker 2>not know what You're right.

1051
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 4>I know, well, you then I'm just not connecting the

1052
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 4>dots because we've talked about this horror movie and I

1053
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 4>know you've played it.

1054
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Is it a girl?

1055
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Is this it might be.

1056
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Huh? Anyway, everyone just called.

1057
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I didn't think about that.

1058
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I can see that totally, and I was.

1059
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Like, this is so inspired and it's so absolutely terrified.

1060
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 4>I played this game on a dark, rainy night and

1061
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I had to take breaks because it was so scary

1062
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 4>for me. I think that this is one of their

1063
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 4>scariest games yet. Its terrified.

1064
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.119
<v Speaker 2>That section we're talking about, that grace section, which is

1065
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>why It's like, I feel like a fully fleshed out

1066
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 2>game that felt like that long grace section in the

1067
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 2>care center, like that could rival, you know, to seven,

1068
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the best the series has to offer,

1069
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, like in terms of just survival horror. And

1070
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I think a fleshed out Leon game could rival four.

1071
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>But because it kind of feels like we're getting like

1072
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>forty percent of a game here, you don't get all

1073
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 2>the satisfaction even as Leon. You know, part of the

1074
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>joy of like four is the level up system. Like

1075
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you get that upgrade to your attached

1076
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a case, it's like, oh my god, I can breathe.

1077
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh I've been dealing with this for so long. I've

1078
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 2>been blah blah blah. And then like when you upgrade

1079
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 2>your weapon all the way, it's like, oh, man, I

1080
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>turned this pea shooter into this thing that's like super

1081
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.320
<v Speaker 2>powerful over the course of ten hours or whatever. And

1082
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 2>since it's so much shorter here, like there is a

1083
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 2>longer Leon section the way, there is that longer Grace section,

1084
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's like everything's on this very abbreviated like rush

1085
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>schedule where it's like, okay, yeah, you have your attache

1086
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>case upgrades and you do level up your weapons and

1087
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>things like that, but it like it all just happens

1088
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>really fast because it's like on like a three hour

1089
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.320
<v Speaker 2>timeline instead of like a twelve hour timeline, so you don't

1090
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>have as much of a payoff. Really, Like, sure, it's

1091
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.519
<v Speaker 2>great that you're leveling your shit up, but it's like

1092
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 2>it's it doesn't feel like the long treadmill to get there.

1093
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, it does for Grace, it doesn't for Leon.

1094
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.199
<v Speaker 4>For Grace, every time I upgraded anything, I was like,

1095
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 4>this is a big deal for Mary. I really needed this.

1096
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.760
<v Speaker 4>For Leon. I like, I think I just like opened

1097
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 4>up a case and I got a charm for my

1098
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 4>gun and there's just like this makes your gun stronger.

1099
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was like.

1100
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay, And it didn't feel earned or like good or anything.

1101
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 4>And it also is a ridiculously stupid like charm that

1102
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 4>hangs off of your gun. And so Leon's walking around

1103
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 4>with this gun shooting and there's this stupid charm hanging

1104
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:45.280
<v Speaker 4>off of it. It's almost comical and quirky. It's very

1105
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 4>fo it's like silly and yeah, you kind of almost

1106
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 4>laugh when you do it. And with Grace, I wasn't

1107
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 4>laughing at all.

1108
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It was fucking terrible, genuinely terrifying. And then you get

1109
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 2>to Leon and like there's an area. I don't think

1110
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 2>you're there yet, Mary, but like you get a wristband

1111
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 2>that that's an item just like this.

1112
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Will basically give you points for every kill you get.

1113
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it just turns into like, all right, well,

1114
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 2>head shots, Oh I got two twenty thousand points. I'm

1115
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna go get a bunch of upgrades. So, like the

1116
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>tonal shift is very Jerry, and it's meant to be, yeah,

1117
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 2>it must be very different. But it's like you are

1118
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 2>going from like, oh god, it's gonna kill everything's gonna

1119
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.559
<v Speaker 2>kill me to like I need to get twenty thousand

1120
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 2>points to get b I yes, I pled for her.

1121
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I said in the review that like Grace's

1122
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>parts are akin to like the dog jumping through the

1123
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.239
<v Speaker 2>window in the first game, and the leon Pards are

1124
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 2>like shooting double rockets through Wesker's eyes as he drowns

1125
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 2>into a volcano. Like that is like the difference in

1126
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 2>tone between two which I love both, Yeah, but they're

1127
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>just they are really shoving everything into one game here.

1128
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 4>I think so, but I would like to just also

1129
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 4>bring it back and say I'm loving this game so far.

1130
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 4>I haven't beat it, so I don't have the same perspective.

1131
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 4>I am like knee deep in. I just I think

1132
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 4>I've like finished a lot of these I don't actually

1133
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 4>don't know how far I am into this game. I've

1134
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 4>tried to tell you around where I think I am,

1135
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 4>but the areas that I have completed I have adored.

1136
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 4>I think that this is better. This area, in my opinion,

1137
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 4>is like better constructed than Village.

1138
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted a whole game of that.

1139
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 2>I want a whole interconnected world of that great like

1140
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.039
<v Speaker 2>that is the ideal game for me right now, is

1141
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>like if I do love the going back and forth

1142
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Leon stuff, because like I don't even if

1143
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>these are sound like complaints or whatever, Like it's all

1144
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 2>very fucking good. This game is great good, But the

1145
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>great stuff is so good that I think the ideal

1146
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>one for me would be just like keep stretching that

1147
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>out for the rest of the game.

1148
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 4>I am an agreement. I'm just I have Every minute

1149
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 4>with this game went by so smoothly, and so it

1150
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 4>was just so well designed. I will say like it's

1151
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 4>funny when you play the original trilogy like Mike House.

1152
00:52:58.440 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I'll be like, I have no idea where I'm

1153
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 4>supposed to go, and You'll be like, well, don't you

1154
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 4>remember that one part of the note that you read

1155
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.719
<v Speaker 4>and it's said to specifically go to this area, And

1156
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, well, no, I don't fucking remember that,

1157
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like this game has upgraded. It's a modern

1158
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 4>game that reiterates things like three times. There's no way

1159
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 4>that you don't know what to do next. Like they

1160
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 4>have been cautious with the player to give you very

1161
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 4>clear guidance of what you are supposed to be achieving next.

1162
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 4>And I appreciate that about this game. I don't want

1163
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 4>to like get into the old like Yello. Yeah, I

1164
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.039
<v Speaker 4>don't want to get into like a yellow paint debate.

1165
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 4>But I think what I'm saying is is there are

1166
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:41.199
<v Speaker 4>parts where I'm like, man, you really hammered this home,

1167
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 4>so I know exactly what you want me to do.

1168
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 4>But that's good. I don't think people are going to

1169
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 4>get lost and confused. I think they're pretty clear with

1170
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 4>your objectives in each section.

1171
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's bad about it. By any means.

1172
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they overdo that. Like, it's not big

1173
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 2>flashing arrows, it's not marking a thing on the map.

1174
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It is like when you save the name of the

1175
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>say file will be like find the last part of

1176
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing to go in this door, you know, And

1177
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like, it doesn't say find it in this room.

1178
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, you need to find one more thing

1179
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and then go through that door. That's the ultimate goal,

1180
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1181
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, that's nice.

1182
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 4>I think they do a good job with that. There's

1183
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 4>a funny part in the beginning where a character says something.

1184
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.079
<v Speaker 4>Your character says something, and then the objective gets written

1185
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 4>on the screen and says do the thing that we

1186
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 4>just said to you. And it's just like, Okay, you're

1187
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:27.960
<v Speaker 4>being very very clear that I know what to do

1188
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 4>and where to go. And I personally like that, especially

1189
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 4>someone who usually cannot spend eight hours on a game.

1190
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I have to come back to it sometimes after five

1191
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 4>working days, which means I am I don't remember. This

1192
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 4>game will help you remember. It's guiding you. It's being

1193
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 4>very explicit so that you're not confused. Also, the map

1194
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 4>is fucking awesome. It tracks everything. This is I don't

1195
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 4>think this is a spoiler. This is just modern resident evil.

1196
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 4>When you go into a room, if you hit the map,

1197
00:54:56.159 --> 00:55:00.719
<v Speaker 4>it'll be like there's a health here and there's bullets here,

1198
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:01.320
<v Speaker 4>and it's just like.

1199
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 3>If you want to thank you.

1200
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's not like it does it by

1201
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>because if they were always there, you just walk into

1202
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 2>a room, look at the map, and go to it.

1203
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 2>But it's like it will only show you like, oh

1204
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 2>that amo pickup that you walked by and didn't pick up,

1205
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 2>so like it's smart about that.

1206
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>And then you know the red door is locked. It's

1207
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 3>very very good about that.

1208
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1209
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 4>I love that it tells you about the different door systems,

1210
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 4>and it's very explicit that it's like this needs a key,

1211
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 4>this needs a key card. That's a level two. This

1212
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 4>is this is a gate and I don't know if

1213
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 4>it will ever open.

1214
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Like they they help you because the old games, I

1215
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like before the map's got so good, it's like, well, okay,

1216
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:35.880
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a dangerous thing to go all the

1217
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 2>way across the mansion to this thing just to be like, oh, right,

1218
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that door needed the club key or whatever.

1219
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1220
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they tell you on the map, even if they're

1221
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 4>like this might need a special tool and it's like

1222
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.639
<v Speaker 4>ah ah wait, okay, I understand.

1223
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really feels like this game is a culmination

1224
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of like everything they have learned from thirty years of

1225
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>making this series, and it seems like they've learned stuff

1226
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.079
<v Speaker 2>from every step along the way and put it all

1227
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 2>into one game, which is kind of fascinating to see.

1228
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Fine, it's finally tuned.

1229
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1230
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 4>They have softened the edges to make sure that this

1231
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 4>is a streamlined and good game experience, but they have

1232
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 4>also made a few risks that they have not done

1233
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 4>in previous games that paid off. The new upgrade system

1234
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 4>is different, the enemies are are different, and they have

1235
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 4>found good ways to make this feel a fresh game

1236
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 4>in a series that is successful. This is a good,

1237
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 4>good add to the Resident Evil series.

1238
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels fresh, but it also feels like it's

1239
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:44.679
<v Speaker 2>constantly hearkening back and nodding to the series history in

1240
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.559
<v Speaker 2>a way that like, I think really works because it's

1241
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.199
<v Speaker 2>not just greatest hits. It is there so many things

1242
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 2>like that great stuff in the new enemies and things

1243
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I didn't feel like I was playing

1244
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 2>a cover band of a resident evil. You know, I

1245
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.559
<v Speaker 2>felt like I was playing a new resident evil that

1246
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 2>is really hearkening back, like a lot of references, you know,

1247
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>subtle and very overt, and it really really works almost

1248
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

1249
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like even Village sort of did that. Like

1250
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.159
<v Speaker 1>the Castle felt a bit more like the earlier games,

1251
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 1>and then you're doing the House where it was very

1252
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 1>much like the Amnesia the Dark Descent or Amnesia the

1253
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Dark Descent kind of style of horror where you're helpless

1254
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and you're literally just trying to dodge. But that was

1255
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>all first person and the action didn't get that crazy,

1256
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.639
<v Speaker 1>even at the factory when you're fighting the last guy

1257
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:32.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever order you do them in.

1258
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, But.

1259
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds rad. Does a length feel good? Like

1260
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>is it similar to Village?

1261
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like ten to twelve hours, which is kind

1262
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 2>of on par with the last couple. Like Mary, for

1263
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 2>what you've described, I think you've got about six hours left.

1264
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1265
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<v Speaker 4>I mean I find that shocking, considering like it was

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00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 4>a really fantastic first half then, and I've really enjoyed it.

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00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 4>And I will also say I think you could be

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00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:01.159
<v Speaker 4>spend longer. I think, uh, you could go back through

1269
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.280
<v Speaker 4>these places and retrace your steps and get everything. I think,

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00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 4>to like a well tuned gamer, this is like ten

1271
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 4>to twelve hours. But I think, for like, I always

1272
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 4>end up taking my time or getting stuck on a

1273
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 4>few areas, and so I usually I usually find that

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00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.159
<v Speaker 4>anytime someone reviews a game and they say it takes

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00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 4>x mount time takes me about thirty percent longer.

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00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was very very thorough about like even

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00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 2>like it shows you on the map like all the

1278
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 2>pools of blood and stuff like that, and I was like, look,

1279
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 2>this is a finite resource. I am getting every fucking

1280
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 2>one of these things before I leave this hospital. So

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00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, just for context, I wasn't rushing by any means.

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00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you were rushing. Sorry, I think you're

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00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 4>an elite gamer, is what I'm saying.

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00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Can I think what I was trying to get out?

1285
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:40.239
<v Speaker 3>All right?

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00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 4>I think? No, don't you record that and don't put

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00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 4>it in don't write down the time?

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00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, no, absolutely not.

1289
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 4>No, Tan is right.

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00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I really can't even tell. Like I wasn't

1291
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at the screen when that happened. I could not

1292
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.599
<v Speaker 1>have told you, which was actually merry and which was

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00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the recording?

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00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean she said she said that.

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00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm just saying, like I struggle, and I

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00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.639
<v Speaker 4>usually do have to replay a boss fight or there's

1298
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.679
<v Speaker 4>a there's like a the first time I encountered a

1299
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.079
<v Speaker 4>crimson head or whatever they're called now, I died and

1300
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 4>I lost a lot of progress and I had to

1301
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 4>do it again. And so I think that other people

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00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 4>don't have to do that, and it saves them a

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00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of time.

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00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I did die a logan to die and I was

1305
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>playing on the like there's you can there's like two

1306
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 2>standard difficulties. One of them is you don't have to

1307
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 2>use the ink ribbons, and one of them is like, hey,

1308
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do it, standard difficulty, but with

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00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.519
<v Speaker 2>the old school save system you can do this. So

1310
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.519
<v Speaker 2>like there is the like, hey, do you want to

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00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:39.519
<v Speaker 2>be really classic resideval here?

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00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:41.760
<v Speaker 4>You can't tell what the what what you use ribbons

1313
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:43.760
<v Speaker 4>in both right? Because I did. Oh, I see what

1314
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.000
<v Speaker 4>you're saying. You have to have a physical item of

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00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 4>a ribbon in order to save yeh, brutal okay, And

1316
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 4>you can do that's and it's an items, it's an inventory, Yeah.

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00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes it is.

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00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 4>You hate.

1319
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I started the second play through on that, and you

1320
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>sure as hell need in ribbons is the safe.

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00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I couldn't imagine, Like what a what

1322
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 4>a terrifying system. I don't think there's anything more beautiful

1323
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 4>than going into a room and like holding your breath

1324
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 4>and seeing a typewriter. It's just such a magnificent physical item.

1325
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing, is like the great stuff it

1326
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 2>is so are one, two three, where it's like you

1327
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:18.599
<v Speaker 2>go in, there's a typewriter. There is an item box

1328
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:21.039
<v Speaker 2>that shares space with all the other item boxes. So

1329
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, this is this is straight up like

1330
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 2>ri one stuff.

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01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 4>It's beautiful, a beautiful section of the game that I have,

1332
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 4>I have thoroughly enjoyed and I can't wait to see

1333
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:34.119
<v Speaker 4>everyone's reactions when they play through it and experience some

1334
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 4>of these monsters or whatever they put in this place.

1335
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Like they did a good job with some of the design.

1336
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.519
<v Speaker 4>And I know a lot of people talked about Lady

1337
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 4>di mctrescu and her scale and stuff like that. They've

1338
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 4>played with scale again in this game that I think

1339
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 4>is very smart, very it's kind of funny but scary,

1340
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 4>like they did, they did such a great physics the game.

1341
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Like I wonder how they designed these spaces to do this,

1342
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Like they had fun making some of these characters.

1343
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>You talk about some of the big characters and stuff,

1344
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 2>and like there are great moments where you're just kind

1345
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 2>of walking along. It's not like it's doing a big

1346
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 2>tense build up like oh God, something scared, It's gonna

1347
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 2>happen all of a sudden, just something will break down

1348
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.360
<v Speaker 2>and you'll be looking at a thing and your brain.

1349
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Is like nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, but you're just

1350
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 3>running away.

1351
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Just give me the fuck out of here, Give me

1352
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here.

1353
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I love that feeling in these games.

1354
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 4>They did it. They do it so well, and I

1355
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 4>can't wait to see people's reactions live, like experiencing these

1356
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.079
<v Speaker 4>things and reacting to some of these scenarios that they

1357
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.480
<v Speaker 4>put the characters in. It's brutal, very funny as for

1358
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 4>a casual observer, Like when I watch these people play,

1359
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna freak out.

1360
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be very streamable game. Like I Mary,

1361
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 2>like you, I played late at night lights Out that

1362
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't play during the day at all. Here just

1363
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:48.119
<v Speaker 2>all late night hours. But like now I'm like, oh,

1364
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to watch my sister stream this. This

1365
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be a very streamable game.

1366
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.039
<v Speaker 4>I played this like during a thunderstorm, like there was

1367
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 4>like lightning and stuff, and I was like, oh, I

1368
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:57.559
<v Speaker 4>was so scared.

1369
01:01:58.199 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Perfect.

1370
01:01:58.559 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to this.

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01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.480
<v Speaker 3>That's good. Yeah.

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01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 1>The last thing I played reson Evil was the Resuval

1373
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Village VR, which is really fucking good as well.

1374
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys try that.

1375
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Scary in VR? I think this is that's old, isn't it?

1376
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 4>Like didn't we play that? I swear I was like

1377
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 4>still at GameSpot or something when we did like a

1378
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 4>VR play through and I.

1379
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Was seven has that's probably what you're thinking now. The

1380
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Village came after GameSpot Era, But yeah, I think you

1381
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.840
<v Speaker 1>played seven VR, which was also good too, but like

1382
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.639
<v Speaker 1>they went really hard with like each gun had different

1383
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.719
<v Speaker 1>reload movements you had to do. It was great. Yeah,

1384
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to play this. I'm looking forward to it.

1385
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna get around to it sooner rather than later.

1386
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But anyone ever enjoyed any Residonaval game, You're gonna find

1387
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 2>something to like about this for sure.

1388
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Cool Dan, I'm also curious how Securo's going or went.

1389
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Did you finish it?

1390
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, I'm closed.

1391
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:01.360
<v Speaker 2>From what I heard. I was last night or the

1392
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.800
<v Speaker 2>night before I streamed it, and uh spent over two

1393
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:08.360
<v Speaker 2>hours trying to beat Owl. Any wants to see that fight.

1394
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 2>That was the part nine of my playthrough on YouTube. Boy,

1395
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 2>that was just a tough time, but it felt incredible.

1396
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I was telling I went upstairs until bank after the stream.

1397
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no game ever has made my brain

1398
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and body feel the things I felt when I like

1399
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.639
<v Speaker 2>do something like like like when I beat Owl and

1400
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's an actual sensation. Just feel like like

1401
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Fuzzy and Catharsis and just it I more than beating

1402
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Tyson for the first time in punch Out. It's just

1403
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the most like oh my god, what like it feels

1404
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>like a real accomplishment.

1405
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

1406
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

1407
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I've got like four hours left or so

1408
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 2>from what people are telling me. But yeah, what a

1409
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 2>fucking game.

1410
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 1>That game's red. I love that game. I still like

1411
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Bloodborne the most. We're talking from soft stuff, but.

1412
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:55.480
<v Speaker 2>That soon because I heard the emulation on that as

1413
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 2>you can play it like sixty frames a second now, So.

1414
01:03:57.840 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I forgot you have that.

1415
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you played blood Borne at all?

1416
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I beat it back in the day, but I did

1417
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the most horse. I just summoned for all the bosses.

1418
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I fucking like cheese dicked my way through all the

1419
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like leveling up, grinding.

1420
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:09.199
<v Speaker 4>Like I amen.

1421
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, now that I know that I can actually like

1422
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.360
<v Speaker 2>do it right and I can actually like be good

1423
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:14.840
<v Speaker 2>at these games, I want to go back to these

1424
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:15.519
<v Speaker 2>games and do it.

1425
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 4>It has no right way to beat a game.

1426
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.599
<v Speaker 2>My way was especially cheese dick. I mean I was

1427
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:22.760
<v Speaker 2>like hiding in a corner and letting.

1428
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Some It was Eric Tay.

1429
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Eric Tay was watching me when I streamed it back

1430
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 2>at like twenty fifteen Bloodborne, and we see somebody tweet

1431
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>out that I was going to play it, and I

1432
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 2>would just summon Eric Tay and I would hide in

1433
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 2>a corner while he beat the boss.

1434
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Eric Ty was the original let me solover.

1435
01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he was. He was the original let me solo.

1436
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:41.360
<v Speaker 4>He probably was also the one that was like, you

1437
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:42.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't really beat the game.

1438
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I definitely did not know that's credit. I didn't earn that.

1439
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.920
<v Speaker 1>God, yeah, that game is really good, like the way

1440
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that the comp it's one of my favorite combat systems. Ever,

1441
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it like forces you into like if you just sit

1442
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 1>back and try to be defensive, you're gonna get fuck stuff.

1443
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.320
<v Speaker 1>You need to like make contact with them. It's great. Yeah, Mary,

1444
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you said you have a mini rant about sin Across.

1445
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so last episode Dan asked uh. Dan talked

1446
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 4>about Sinacross and suggested it for me because I like

1447
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:26.320
<v Speaker 4>like Sudoku and games, like puzzle games, like calming puzzle games.

1448
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 4>So picture this. I'll wake up from RESTful slumber and

1449
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 4>the radio is on and countries are invading each other

1450
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 4>and people are fighting over water and it's really stressful,

1451
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 4>and so I turn it off. And then I go

1452
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 4>to work and there's a lot of misinformation and AI

1453
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:46.679
<v Speaker 4>is taking over at jobs and the company's angry and

1454
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.119
<v Speaker 4>it's stressful, and so I turn it off. And then

1455
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 4>I go watch television and I choose the Pit because

1456
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.480
<v Speaker 4>that sounds like it'll be a nice escape from my reality.

1457
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 4>And doctors are abusing their kids and shoulders are popping

1458
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 4>out of stud pockets and we have a terrible healthcare

1459
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 4>system and it's very very stressful show.

1460
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like the most stressful show of all time, And

1461
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:07.760
<v Speaker 1>so I turn.

1462
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It off and then I say to myself, video games

1463
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 4>the last bastion of mental health. Dan recommended that I

1464
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.840
<v Speaker 4>play this game called Cinacross, which is kind of like

1465
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 4>Sudoku or like mind Sweeper. I'll play that and relax

1466
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:27.679
<v Speaker 4>this evening. But it's timed, and you lose health for

1467
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 4>every mistake, and the clock is ticking, and even if

1468
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 4>you're playing an easy puzzle, the time is all of

1469
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.480
<v Speaker 4>the game. So if you take too long on an

1470
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:39.760
<v Speaker 4>easy puzzle, you'll die later. So even on the easiest puzzle,

1471
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I am trying to go as fast as humanly possible,

1472
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:44.920
<v Speaker 4>and if I make a mistake, my literal health bar

1473
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:50.599
<v Speaker 4>goes down. And it's so stressful. Is there any end

1474
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:52.480
<v Speaker 4>to the stress in this life?

1475
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Dan did talk about the time being very big thing.

1476
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, I play any more stressful things.

1477
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Dan, it sounds like you're describing you just want to

1478
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.119
<v Speaker 2>play normal pacrosse, which is out there. That's across three D,

1479
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 2>that's across the S, that's pacross s on switch. There's

1480
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.400
<v Speaker 2>no time living on that. That's the whole gag with

1481
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.639
<v Speaker 2>this one is that they turned it into a fast

1482
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 2>paced thing with a timer and health bars.

1483
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 3>And roguelike Mechanics.

1484
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm clinically upset all the time when I play. This

1485
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:29.840
<v Speaker 4>game is built to make you upset. It's really stressful.

1486
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that why you went to A Little to the Left.

1487
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 4>You guys gotta get into a Little to the Left.

1488
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:36.800
<v Speaker 4>This one is so relaxed.

1489
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good.

1490
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's it's up there with like unpacking kind of stuff.

1491
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Then you wind it down with some resident evil nine.

1492
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I just myself. I'm going to have a stroke.

1493
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Iile brainstorming Mary's Bargain, bin hole deal whatever.

1494
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Telling them off. You doing this weekend are clearly drinking.

1495
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.920
<v Speaker 4>One of my favorite pastimes is going to a local

1496
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 4>bar with my steam deck and I get a drink

1497
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and I play a game on my steam deck in

1498
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 4>the bar. I love it. It's one of my favorite

1499
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:13.639
<v Speaker 4>things to do on a night off. And I started

1500
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.400
<v Speaker 4>playing Cintacross and I had to quit because I was like,

1501
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 4>this is too stressful. I've worked too hard this week.

1502
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a really hard week. I cannot handle it.

1503
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:23.880
<v Speaker 4>And I looked up a game called A Little to

1504
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.720
<v Speaker 4>the Left, which was on sale. This is important because

1505
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:28.920
<v Speaker 4>like it's also cathartic to play a game for like

1506
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 4>less than five bucks. This game is very affordable and

1507
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 4>it is a actual cozy game. It is a game

1508
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:39.720
<v Speaker 4>where it will give you a puzzle that has multiple

1509
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 4>solutions based on scale, size, color, and you sort things

1510
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 4>the way your mind says you should probably sort it.

1511
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you an example. They'll give you seven pencils.

1512
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:54.720
<v Speaker 4>The pencils are different colors, they're different sizes, and maybe

1513
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:58.920
<v Speaker 4>even the way that they're shaved right, there's like different

1514
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 4>points to them. Some of them around her and some

1515
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.239
<v Speaker 4>of them are like super super pointy. How do you

1516
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 4>sort them? Do you sort them small to tall? You're correct?

1517
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Do you sort them nubby uh tip to extremely pointy

1518
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:18.560
<v Speaker 4>trip tip? You're also correct? Do you sort them ROYGBIV

1519
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.439
<v Speaker 4>guess what? You're correct? And it's just such a nice,

1520
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:29.680
<v Speaker 4>cathartic way to organize items, household items in your house

1521
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.159
<v Speaker 4>in different ways that feel good. I played A Little

1522
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:37.279
<v Speaker 4>to the Left for like five hours on Friday, and

1523
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 4>it was one of the best experiences where I actually

1524
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 4>felt like my anxiety was dissolving over time. And so

1525
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 4>I just want to say, like, if people are looking

1526
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.159
<v Speaker 4>for a cozy game during these like wicked times, A

1527
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Little to the Left was the one for me, and

1528
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I really really.

1529
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed it well before the record state, I never pitched

1530
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Cinacross as a cozy game.

1531
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe that Dan like, this is right up your

1532
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:06.920
<v Speaker 4>cozy at with a nice book and a glass of

1533
01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:09.199
<v Speaker 4>white wine. You're going to love.

1534
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:13.479
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't even think he full on recommended. I

1535
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 1>think he just said that. You actually kind of disliked

1536
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the timer as well. Dan Or you said it changes

1537
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the Pacross.

1538
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:21.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a very type but like I said, it plays

1539
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a ton of Pacross. I enjoyed having a different way

1540
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:25.479
<v Speaker 2>to do it, but I certainly wouldn't have said it

1541
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:26.119
<v Speaker 2>was a cozy game.

1542
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Like No, I don't think you described it as cozy,

1543
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:32.239
<v Speaker 4>but you did say that I would. I think you

1544
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:34.399
<v Speaker 4>were like, I think you'd like this, and I think

1545
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe on a less stressful week, I would have liked it.

1546
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 4>I think there is a world in which this is.

1547
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:41.720
<v Speaker 4>For the record, this rant is not to say I

1548
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 4>don't like Santa Cross. I actually think there's a world

1549
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 4>for me and Sina Cross, and I recommend it as

1550
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.920
<v Speaker 4>a very well constructed game. I think it's beautiful. I

1551
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 4>love the Diablo esque like graphics and styles. I have

1552
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:56.640
<v Speaker 4>no problem with this game. I am telling you that

1553
01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 4>you have to be in the right mental health space

1554
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:03.840
<v Speaker 4>to take on a puzzle game that times every second,

1555
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 4>and time gets faster in this game, they'll actually be

1556
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.479
<v Speaker 4>like time now is one point four times and it's like,

1557
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:11.560
<v Speaker 4>fuck you, sin Across, I've had a really tough day.

1558
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A Little to the Left is great. I played

1559
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit back when it came out.

1560
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:18.640
<v Speaker 3>What did you think. I think it's fun.

1561
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I played it.

1562
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Not great for the organizer.

1563
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember being excited for it because I liked Unpacking

1564
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. This has similar vibes. Yeah, but a

1565
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit to the left. Little to the Left, Yeah,

1566
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I liked it. There's the I'm just watching, like the

1567
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 1>steam gifts of it. Even watching it is kind of relaxing.

1568
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:41.720
<v Speaker 4>It's very relaxing, and uh yeah, it's fair to compare

1569
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:45.439
<v Speaker 4>to Unpacking because it is about organization. But Unpacking has

1570
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 4>all these like story elements where they're like, oh my gosh,

1571
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 4>is she moving into her boyfriend's house or there's not

1572
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 4>enough room for her cups? This is bullshit, Like Little

1573
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.600
<v Speaker 4>the Left has none of that. It's like, no, how

1574
01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:02.119
<v Speaker 4>you organize your rice? Like maybe I would. I would

1575
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 4>think I would organize it like this, and the game

1576
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 4>is like, you're your genius. I love that you get

1577
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 4>stars for every completion of an organization or the way

1578
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.600
<v Speaker 4>they they would like you to try to organize things.

1579
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 4>And like I said, there's there's multiple ways. So if

1580
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:17.399
<v Speaker 4>you do one out of the three ways you can

1581
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:19.920
<v Speaker 4>organize things, you can just move on to the next puzzle.

1582
01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:21.319
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to be like, how else can I

1583
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.159
<v Speaker 4>organize it? You just move on. This game also has

1584
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 4>a really nice hint system where if you're like, I

1585
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.399
<v Speaker 4>don't know, very easy, clear hint guidelines to give you

1586
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:35.279
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a sneak peek into what it's trying

1587
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 4>to convince you to do. And you can also say

1588
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to play this one anymore, and it'll

1589
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 4>be like cool, here's another one. It's just so lax

1590
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 4>for your brain. No matter what you're feeling, the game's

1591
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.399
<v Speaker 4>like cool, fine, you also puzzle.

1592
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that, like in this game, the

1593
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 1>persistent nemesis is a cat that keeps sucking up all

1594
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:54.239
<v Speaker 1>your shit.

1595
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it knocks over things. If you're organizing something, sometimes

1596
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 4>the paw will come in and just smack it and.

1597
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 1>From the tail.

1598
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it.

1599
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this horrific cat tail blob that comes in and

1600
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.840
<v Speaker 4>destroys you. It's funny how often the games that we

1601
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.680
<v Speaker 4>play are very stressful, and that's also cathartic and we

1602
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 4>can that's like a separate conversation, right where like why

1603
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 4>would you play horror games? And it's like I find

1604
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:26.319
<v Speaker 4>it relaxing in a way, but I actually needed a

1605
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:29.960
<v Speaker 4>relaxing game on Friday and I found it, and so

1606
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:31.199
<v Speaker 4>that is my advice.

1607
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 1>That was the game in twenty twenty that came out

1608
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 1>before What the Hell's In a little to the left.

1609
01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It was Assemble with Care, very similar to Unpacking in

1610
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.840
<v Speaker 1>this where you're just like repairing old school like cameras

1611
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. I remember that as well.

1612
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.199
<v Speaker 4>I love it. I like stuff like that occasionally from

1613
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 4>time to time. And I also want what do you

1614
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:55.880
<v Speaker 4>call that, like brain like turn you can turn off

1615
01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.159
<v Speaker 4>your brain games like you're still playing it, but like

1616
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:03.960
<v Speaker 4>very sick simple puzzles podcast, oh signed to like let

1617
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.680
<v Speaker 4>you relax a little bit, so you never not only

1618
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:08.840
<v Speaker 4>are you not stressed, but like it's not really going

1619
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.520
<v Speaker 4>to push your head that hard, Like it's just asking

1620
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 4>you how you would you, Oh, you'll see like a

1621
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:18.760
<v Speaker 4>picture frame and it'll be crooked. Like that's not really

1622
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:23.399
<v Speaker 4>a puzzle. It's just like, yeah, it's giving you something

1623
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 4>to do that lets you feel accomplished. And it's got

1624
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.159
<v Speaker 4>really nice colors. I feel like I've covered it.

1625
01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Does some fun. I want to give that a my

1626
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:31.479
<v Speaker 3>Steam dick.

1627
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:34.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's pretty nice. And I also played it on

1628
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 4>it was on my switch. I haven't been playing my

1629
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Nintendo Switch to like at all, so I like made

1630
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 4>a point to be like, I'm going to use my

1631
01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:46.000
<v Speaker 4>switch to tonight. And I actually bought it on the

1632
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:49.039
<v Speaker 4>on the Nintendo Shop for like sixty percent off. That

1633
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:54.520
<v Speaker 4>was the impetus of it. So a nice mobile game

1634
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:55.079
<v Speaker 4>for your brain.

1635
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

1636
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1637
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Also, I was gonna say, what was the last This

1638
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.399
<v Speaker 1>is not the same kind of game necessarily, but Strange

1639
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Horticulture gave me vibes like that too, Like the stakes

1640
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.159
<v Speaker 1>are low, horticultures. I love that game. That was one

1641
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite games of twenty three whatever.

1642
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Very very common also had rain in it. It was

1643
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 4>like constantly raining in that game, and so it has.

1644
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's got like cozy Halloween vibes. Too, like not scary,

1645
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:29.079
<v Speaker 1>but like fun Halloween like custom question vibes. Yeah, autumnal,

1646
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:35.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not that funny, I have I it is a

1647
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:38.000
<v Speaker 1>big bugaboo of mine when someone laughs too hard at

1648
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:39.880
<v Speaker 1>one of my jokes that I did not put a

1649
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of effort into all, I insulted Mary.

1650
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:44.000
<v Speaker 2>We got to try to coordinate on this next time

1651
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:46.479
<v Speaker 2>he has a joke that's just like, okay, ish, we

1652
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:49.159
<v Speaker 2>need to lose our ship, start punching holes.

1653
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and then when I say something tiant, you

1654
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:54.840
<v Speaker 1>just don't even give me any credit.

1655
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, we gotta try to time this because we're

1656
01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:58.279
<v Speaker 2>just gonna do it on the fly. You know, we

1657
01:15:58.319 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 2>can't we can't predict what he's gonna say.

1658
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 4>But you know, a lot kind of but not very

1659
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 4>funny all the time.

1660
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Right, So we just got to get in there when

1661
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 3>he does that.

1662
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, it's gonna be amazing. I can't wait, Daniel, Yes,

1663
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.000
<v Speaker 1>what is demon Tides?

1664
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Demon Tides is a three D platformer that just came out.

1665
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 3>My love those for bras.

1666
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 2>It's the developer who's doing pubs four or is it

1667
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.439
<v Speaker 2>four D or just bubb four But yeah, it's a

1668
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:30.159
<v Speaker 2>uh I've only put a couple hours, and so far

1669
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.479
<v Speaker 2>I can tell it's probably gonna do some stuff that

1670
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I really like, because it gives you a ton of

1671
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 2>tools like in the toolbox, as far as like you

1672
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.159
<v Speaker 2>can just tell like, oh shit, I can I can

1673
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.359
<v Speaker 2>turn into a snake to go really fast. Here, I

1674
01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:44.199
<v Speaker 2>can do a double jump into a transform into a bat.

1675
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:45.600
<v Speaker 2>But then I can also get out of it with

1676
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 2>this boost thing, and like there's just so many different

1677
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 2>ways you can extend jumps or make them go higher

1678
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.319
<v Speaker 2>or wall jump off things that like there's no way

1679
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they're giving me all these mechanics early on without having

1680
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:59.159
<v Speaker 2>some really fun platforming challenges. So and it's also it

1681
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:00.720
<v Speaker 2>seems to be formed out of the more of like

1682
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 2>a Bowser's Fury type thing, where there's like a large

1683
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:06.119
<v Speaker 2>ocean map with a bunch of islands and things like that,

1684
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and it does seem pretty open, like at any point

1685
01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:10.039
<v Speaker 2>you can turn into the snake and just kind of

1686
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.960
<v Speaker 2>like boost swim around anywhere you want in this map,

1687
01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:16.279
<v Speaker 2>and you'll just see a series of like islands and

1688
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:17.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff on the horizons, Like I'm gonna go there and

1689
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:19.720
<v Speaker 2>see what's there and get a bunch of collectibles and stuff.

1690
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 2>So so far, it's like I have felt kind of

1691
01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.079
<v Speaker 2>aimless in terms of, like, you know, it's very very open,

1692
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and I've definitely had times where I'm like, I don't

1693
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:30.000
<v Speaker 2>really know what I'm supposed to do here, but I

1694
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 2>am having fun. Just like the mobility and jumping around

1695
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and sailing around stuff is very very fun, but also

1696
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.560
<v Speaker 2>does really cool stuff like at any point you can

1697
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 2>place a checkpoint flag. So let's say you're about to

1698
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.039
<v Speaker 2>try some crazy platforming bullshit, you can hold in why

1699
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to put a flag down, and then at any point

1700
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 2>you can, like I think you hold up on the dpad,

1701
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:50.319
<v Speaker 2>it'll warp you back to your last checkpoint flag, so

1702
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:51.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to rely on the game to set

1703
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:53.800
<v Speaker 2>your checkpoints. You can just be like I'm gonna try

1704
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.800
<v Speaker 2>some bullshit, I'm gonna set my checkpoint right here, and

1705
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.000
<v Speaker 2>like some games like Skate and stuff have done that before,

1706
01:17:58.079 --> 01:17:59.880
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't really seen it in the three D

1707
01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:02.680
<v Speaker 2>platformer like this before. So it's uh, definitely got a

1708
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of cool ideas it's playing with here still very

1709
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.279
<v Speaker 2>early on, but like there's there's definitely a lot of

1710
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:08.880
<v Speaker 2>potential here.

1711
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you between this and Big Hops, which

1712
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 4>is also a similar platformer with fun ideas and a

1713
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.399
<v Speaker 4>cheeky art style that feels a bit indie but interesting.

1714
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 4>Which one would you play first?

1715
01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:24.479
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question because I did think about Big

1716
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Hops a lot while I was playing this.

1717
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I think this is doing a lot.

1718
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>More that I like than a Big Ops was, so

1719
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I would I would lean this over Big Cops Space

1720
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:32.479
<v Speaker 2>on my time with it.

1721
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Both both good. This has felt a lot better and

1722
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:38.159
<v Speaker 3>seems to have a lot more potential.

1723
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh. I was also going to say the Oh no,

1724
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I was confusing that was something else because you also

1725
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:50.800
<v Speaker 1>put Virtual Boy, like, is that the do you have

1726
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a Virtual Boy? Now? Is that's the new one? Wait?

1727
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't know, boy, look at this guy. You're you're

1728
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:56.439
<v Speaker 2>back on the stone age here. You don't know they

1729
01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:58.239
<v Speaker 2>re released the goddamn Virtual Boy.

1730
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I assumed that was the Virtual Boy re release. I

1731
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 1>was just making sure that you weren't playing the original. Yes,

1732
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it on fire Scape. I remember our conversations.

1733
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, you go check out the Big Memory on

1734
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Brad how's the Virtual Boy re release? Oh?

1735
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 3>These games sucks?

1736
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Shit, these are no, no, no, But that's that's that's.

1737
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Not even a Can you put it on while you

1738
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:20.239
<v Speaker 4>review it?

1739
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1740
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's see so it actually it fits pretty well

1741
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:24.920
<v Speaker 2>even when you have glasses on.

1742
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:27.000
<v Speaker 4>You look so stupid.

1743
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:27.960
<v Speaker 1>It looks so cool.

1744
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Did you say cool? He was cool? Right, I can

1745
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.079
<v Speaker 3>wear a shirt that would match it and everything. Look

1746
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:34.920
<v Speaker 3>at that, man, nice, it's so big.

1747
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a big, clunky, dumb ass piece of plastic.

1748
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.359
<v Speaker 2>It was like I played it at a funkal Land

1749
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety five and like, this is the Nintendo console.

1750
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait, I'm gonna go into virtual reality and

1751
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I played it for ten minutes. I was like, this sucks.

1752
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:50.319
<v Speaker 2>And I kind of had a similar feeling when I

1753
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.800
<v Speaker 2>played this. But it's so fucking funny to me, and

1754
01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:55.039
<v Speaker 2>it's so Nintendo that they're just like, all right, we're

1755
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna put these very emulatable virtual boy games, Like you

1756
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:01.359
<v Speaker 2>can easily play this on just the screen of the switch,

1757
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:04.479
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, no, you have to have a stupid headset.

1758
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:05.039
<v Speaker 3>If you don't want to.

1759
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Spend one hundred on the plastic one, you got to

1760
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:09.159
<v Speaker 2>spend whatever and get the cardboard one. Like you can't

1761
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:13.359
<v Speaker 2>play them in non virtual reality it is insane. It's

1762
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:16.439
<v Speaker 2>very Nintendo. I'm very glad it exists. None of these

1763
01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.840
<v Speaker 2>games seem particularly good. The Warrior Land one seems okay,

1764
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 2>but it's still just insane to look at. Just a

1765
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.880
<v Speaker 2>weird fucking company, and I love them for it.

1766
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred dollars, I believe, actually lower than I

1767
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>thought it would be.

1768
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, it's not actually doing anything. It's just

1769
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a fucking like it's you put your switch inside this thing,

1770
01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and all this thing is doing is like three D glasses.

1771
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.039
<v Speaker 3>So it's basically it looks plastic.

1772
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 1>It looks like one of the viewing things in cities

1773
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can use.

1774
01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, sure, like the viewfinder things to like the building. Yeah, totally.

1775
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a very silly thing. It's uh, it's a silly

1776
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 2>thing to buy. I don't want one, don't buy one.

1777
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I won't. Not going to do it, not letting you

1778
01:20:59.039 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>fool me this time.

1779
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Such a good podcast summary. I don't want one, don't

1780
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:06.720
<v Speaker 4>want one?

1781
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm going to do that.

1782
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, uh, whether I want something or not?

1783
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>After everything we talk about from not I'm married, what

1784
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:15.199
<v Speaker 1>is Karen?

1785
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:16.039
<v Speaker 3>See?

1786
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:16.920
<v Speaker 1>If I want one or not?

1787
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, uh. I don't believe that anyone else has played

1788
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:24.720
<v Speaker 4>Karen on this podcast, but a lot of people are

1789
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:28.960
<v Speaker 4>talking about Karen, so I'm glad that I can en

1790
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:31.600
<v Speaker 4>talk about it with you. It's a very unique game.

1791
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:37.560
<v Speaker 4>So Karen is a climbing game, but it's it's solved

1792
01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:40.439
<v Speaker 4>a lot of my problems with like Quop or what

1793
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:45.520
<v Speaker 4>was the other one where you Yeah, I was comparing

1794
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.680
<v Speaker 4>it to the other Quop ones where the guy you're

1795
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:49.880
<v Speaker 4>wearing that guy watch you're playing that guy who's wearing

1796
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.359
<v Speaker 4>sweatpants and sweat buttaby.

1797
01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so.

1798
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Much better than that. It's like very thoughtful and nuanced.

1799
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:02.239
<v Speaker 4>Of is one button, which I like. So imagine you're

1800
01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 4>climbing and X is your grab. The game automatically selects

1801
01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 4>your next limb, and then you use your steering to

1802
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.439
<v Speaker 4>decide where the limb should go, and then you hit

1803
01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:18.560
<v Speaker 4>X to grab the more sturdy of an item that

1804
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:22.840
<v Speaker 4>you grab a rock, a surface, a crack, those types

1805
01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:28.640
<v Speaker 4>of things will give the player just a sturdier climb

1806
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 4>upwards as they as they advance, as the rock starts

1807
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:36.359
<v Speaker 4>getting smoother or it's starting to actually come towards you.

1808
01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:40.399
<v Speaker 4>So you're essentially going upside down. The character's legs will wobble.

1809
01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:43.359
<v Speaker 4>I will say it. At first, especially if you watch

1810
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 4>gameplay of this, you might be like, that looks bad

1811
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.600
<v Speaker 4>or it looks janky, But that is the game's visual

1812
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:54.359
<v Speaker 4>way of saying you are at risk for falling, and

1813
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.239
<v Speaker 4>so it's a very natural and organic way to show

1814
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 4>stamina as opposed to a bar. This game is like

1815
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Tactile and it's showing you things without any ui and

1816
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:11.039
<v Speaker 4>I respect this game a lot for showing what it

1817
01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 4>feels like to climb a massive rock face and eventually

1818
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:16.199
<v Speaker 4>as you as you go, you are climbing a big

1819
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 4>freaking mountain. It is always showing you in a visual

1820
01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 4>way that you are in danger, and you absolutely are

1821
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.359
<v Speaker 4>when you're playing. When you're playing this game, that you

1822
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:33.399
<v Speaker 4>need to find a better foothold for your body to sustain,

1823
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:36.319
<v Speaker 4>and if you do not, you absolutely can fall. And

1824
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.520
<v Speaker 4>there's only certain saved areas in this game, and if

1825
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 4>you fall and you die, you have to redo that

1826
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:44.960
<v Speaker 4>entire rock face. I think that's also good. This game

1827
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 4>is a risk reward about you choosing the right path.

1828
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 4>It has a really interesting visual style for you to

1829
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:55.760
<v Speaker 4>be able to change the camera angles that you can

1830
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:57.920
<v Speaker 4>look at the rock face and say, oh, I see

1831
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.279
<v Speaker 4>that there's a lot of pointy rocks on this. This

1832
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.159
<v Speaker 4>will be easier to climb than this riskier one. But

1833
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:05.199
<v Speaker 4>this riskier one has a cave, which means there's going

1834
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.159
<v Speaker 4>to be an item in there, which I would probably want.

1835
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.399
<v Speaker 4>So it's a lot of risk reward of like which

1836
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.039
<v Speaker 4>path you're choosing. Not only does the game allow you

1837
01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:14.079
<v Speaker 4>to move your camera angle so you could see the

1838
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.279
<v Speaker 4>rock face a little bit better and make a good decision,

1839
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.079
<v Speaker 4>but if you're in this visual style and you hit why,

1840
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:22.479
<v Speaker 4>it shows your entire snail trail of everywhere that you've

1841
01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:26.000
<v Speaker 4>climbed previously, including when you've chosen a rock face and

1842
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.159
<v Speaker 4>like fell and got injured or died, and so the

1843
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.319
<v Speaker 4>entire journey is dotted all the way up this giant

1844
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:35.560
<v Speaker 4>mountain as you traverse the rock front. I think it's

1845
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.880
<v Speaker 4>a brilliant design for what it is specifically trying to execute,

1846
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:43.159
<v Speaker 4>of making you feel like you are a rock climber

1847
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:48.319
<v Speaker 4>taking on one of the most enormous mountains of your

1848
01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:52.000
<v Speaker 4>career and letting you go on on the journey with it.

1849
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:53.039
<v Speaker 4>I really like it.

1850
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>How are them climbbacks? What?

1851
01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I laugh hard? Oh my god, thank you,

1852
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:14.000
<v Speaker 3>thank you, I'm.

1853
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Actually choosing you're really laughing. Sounds good to uh.

1854
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

1855
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>It's all diegetic. Yeah, Like even the bandages that theyre

1856
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that she's okay, I'm seeing her and wrap like like

1857
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>wrap up blisters and cuts. Is that just like you

1858
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>hold the button and she does automatically.

1859
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Or she does it automatically. But you do need to

1860
01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:36.760
<v Speaker 4>have enough take you do. You have to you have

1861
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.640
<v Speaker 4>to build things. You have to make sure you have

1862
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:43.640
<v Speaker 4>enough tape to heal your fingers and your toes. If

1863
01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:47.000
<v Speaker 4>you climb a riskier rock face, you are more at

1864
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.319
<v Speaker 4>risk to cut your fingers on a sharp rock face.

1865
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:52.439
<v Speaker 4>That is a risk you take as a player, but

1866
01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:56.199
<v Speaker 4>it's maybe better than doing a smoother rock that you'll

1867
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 4>slip off of and fall. There's so much digetic gameplay, Mike.

1868
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:04.720
<v Speaker 4>There's there's that, there's there's a there's a food system.

1869
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:07.359
<v Speaker 4>And the food system is a lot of things that

1870
01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 4>you find on your travels, like berries or maybe you

1871
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I actually stumbled across like a dead guy, like somebody

1872
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:14.960
<v Speaker 4>else who failed climbing the mountain, and I stole.

1873
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>All of his like, oh, you cannibalized him.

1874
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I ate him? Uh no, I I got all of

1875
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:24.239
<v Speaker 4>his old stuff. And it's all in a backpack. And

1876
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:28.079
<v Speaker 4>the system for the backpack is that it's if you

1877
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.600
<v Speaker 4>can see it in the trailer, it really shows it well.

1878
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.560
<v Speaker 4>But there's no item slots. It's just a hole of

1879
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:37.119
<v Speaker 4>a backpack and all of your items are in there

1880
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:40.159
<v Speaker 4>flopping around. And if you are out of room, there's

1881
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.560
<v Speaker 4>a button to shake your backpack and all the items

1882
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:46.039
<v Speaker 4>like physically move around and hopefully give you a little

1883
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:49.880
<v Speaker 4>bit more space to have enough items. Like how cool

1884
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.600
<v Speaker 4>is that? It reminds me of Kingdom two crowns and

1885
01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.199
<v Speaker 4>Kingdom two crowns. It doesn't say you have forty dollars.

1886
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:58.439
<v Speaker 4>You have a pouch with gold coins and if it's

1887
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:01.720
<v Speaker 4>two full, they start falling out, and you know how

1888
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:05.319
<v Speaker 4>rich you are based on how full of your pouches

1889
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.960
<v Speaker 4>of coins. This is the same thing. It's like physical

1890
01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:10.680
<v Speaker 4>items bouncing around in your pack, and it's you have

1891
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:12.720
<v Speaker 4>to be like how many chocolate bars do I have?

1892
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:14.840
<v Speaker 4>And you gotta shake it to like see them all.

1893
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:19.439
<v Speaker 4>It's really it's really fun how they have your items.

1894
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>You do have thirst, hunger, and I think sleep, although

1895
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:26.880
<v Speaker 4>it's probably like focus and I think is how they

1896
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:28.920
<v Speaker 4>describe it. And so you do need to sleep, you

1897
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>do need to eat, and you do need to drink

1898
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:34.359
<v Speaker 4>water consistently throughout. And as you progress on the mountain,

1899
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you get cold. So maybe when you're in your tent,

1900
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:40.840
<v Speaker 4>after you've taped your fingers, you will take the berries

1901
01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:43.399
<v Speaker 4>that you've found and you will put them in your

1902
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:45.880
<v Speaker 4>water bottle and heat them up, and now you have tea,

1903
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 4>and so that will give you additional focus. It will

1904
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 4>it will feed you a little bit because of the berries,

1905
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 4>and it will also give you hydration, and it will

1906
01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>heat you when you get cold on the top of

1907
01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 4>the mountain. The last thing that you can do in

1908
01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.920
<v Speaker 4>that tent is you can fix your petons. I never

1909
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 4>say that, right, pons. I think they're kittens. And when

1910
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.920
<v Speaker 4>you are climbing, if you are climbing a very tall

1911
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:20.000
<v Speaker 4>rock face and you think you might fall, it's a

1912
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 4>great time to put a pitten in the wall, which

1913
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.640
<v Speaker 4>will save you. And you also get your stam in

1914
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:27.760
<v Speaker 4>the back because you're like, oh, I got to relax

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01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 4>because I'm connected.

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01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:29.079
<v Speaker 1>To this wall.

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01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:35.560
<v Speaker 4>You have six precious, precious pittons, and you there is

1918
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.239
<v Speaker 4>a quick time event when you decide to put one

1919
01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:39.039
<v Speaker 4>in the wall, and you're also very stressed right because

1920
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.039
<v Speaker 4>you're shaking because you're about to fall, and so you're like,

1921
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 4>I need a pitten. I need a pitten right now.

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01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:45.680
<v Speaker 4>And if you do it incorrectly, you can crack your

1923
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:47.960
<v Speaker 4>pitten and now it's gone. Now you only have five.

1924
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:51.319
<v Speaker 4>And as you're on your journey, you might find some scrap,

1925
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:53.319
<v Speaker 4>you might find some metal, you might sign some stuff

1926
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:56.199
<v Speaker 4>when you are sleeping in that tent. The other thing

1927
01:28:56.199 --> 01:28:58.119
<v Speaker 4>you can do is you could try and fix your

1928
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 4>pittens so that you can have six again. You can

1929
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 4>actually break them, I think permanently, or you can just

1930
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>like crack them, which means they need to be repaired.

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01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:11.520
<v Speaker 4>If you do a perfect wall pitting attempt, then it's

1932
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:13.319
<v Speaker 4>in great condition and you're in great condition. So you

1933
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 4>want to make sure you're getting everything right, but that's

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01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.840
<v Speaker 4>hard to do in a very stressful situation.

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01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm like in how much puzzle solving there seems to

1936
01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:24.439
<v Speaker 1>be as well, with like messages and maps and stuff

1937
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:27.119
<v Speaker 1>like that, and like also just environmental storytelling looks super cool.

1938
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:30.479
<v Speaker 4>There is a strong story that is being told. As

1939
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.079
<v Speaker 4>you climb this mountain, you are facing a lot of

1940
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:37.239
<v Speaker 4>personal demons. There's a lot of really good passive storytelling.

1941
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it about it? Is the game metaphor for mental

1942
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>health challenges? Oh, well that's new.

1943
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I think it is.

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01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:52.199
<v Speaker 4>I think she's overcoming a lot of personal demons. There

1946
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>are people can send her voice messages. You're getting a

1947
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.600
<v Speaker 4>lot of audio clips from friends. Doesn't sound like she

1948
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:00.600
<v Speaker 4>has a lot of family. I think that comes into

1949
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:04.039
<v Speaker 4>play a lot. I have not gotten far enough into it,

1950
01:30:04.079 --> 01:30:06.119
<v Speaker 4>but people have talked to who have played a little

1951
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 4>further or like, this story wi't gut you. It is

1952
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.359
<v Speaker 4>a good, good, hard earned story, and so I love that.

1953
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:14.439
<v Speaker 4>But I can't personally speak to it. So there's a

1954
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>lot going for it. I will tell you from a

1955
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.239
<v Speaker 4>person who likes to mix up their gameplay a lot,

1956
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:22.239
<v Speaker 4>there was a couple of times where after falling on

1957
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:23.840
<v Speaker 4>the same rock face three times, I was like, well,

1958
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna play something else, and I think you can

1959
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.920
<v Speaker 4>quit this game. Just because of the nature of the beast.

1960
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>There's not a lot of mix up. You're here to

1961
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:35.159
<v Speaker 4>climb a rock and if you don't like doing that,

1962
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I could see a player getting bored very quickly.

1963
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm thinking about, like I want to play this game.

1964
01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious about it. I really liked Jussant. I

1965
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:45.079
<v Speaker 2>have like, you know, grow Up or Grow Home. You know,

1966
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I have liked climbing games.

1967
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:48.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like to Grow Home a lot.

1968
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.159
<v Speaker 2>But there was also the baby Steps thing where it's

1969
01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like it did do the thing that you're saying this

1970
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>does too, where it's like I fell down a thing

1971
01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the first time and that I've spent twenty minutes climbing

1972
01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, well, I'm not doing that again.

1973
01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:01.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm done. So it's like I am wondering if this

1974
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>would be similar.

1975
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:05.399
<v Speaker 4>I think that this can dig up feelings like that.

1976
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:07.479
<v Speaker 4>The good news is you can always pick a different

1977
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:11.000
<v Speaker 4>mountains have many ways to climb them, and so you

1978
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:13.680
<v Speaker 4>don't have to pick that same climb. You can pick

1979
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:18.479
<v Speaker 4>a lot. The game gives you endless areas that you

1980
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 4>can try the same wall in a different way, and

1981
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.960
<v Speaker 4>so I do appreciate that about the game. Nevertheless, I

1982
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.760
<v Speaker 4>actually did have that moment where I climbed the wall

1983
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>like three or four times and I fell three or

1984
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:35.520
<v Speaker 4>four times. Then I said, I'm gonna play something else,

1985
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 4>so I could see people falling off and quitting if

1986
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:42.560
<v Speaker 4>they're not getting the good feelings that you should get

1987
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:45.920
<v Speaker 4>from being able to achieve the climb. You also can

1988
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.359
<v Speaker 4>get like really physically hurt, which makes me just want

1989
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 4>to restart my save, like if I fall and break

1990
01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.920
<v Speaker 4>or like hurt a bone. She goes to sleep to like,

1991
01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:57.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, recover, and a part of me was like,

1992
01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll just I'll just restart, which I'm not dealing with

1993
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:04.199
<v Speaker 4>all that shit. So anyway, I don't think this game

1994
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:06.479
<v Speaker 4>is for everyone. I think it is a very niche game.

1995
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I think what it's trying to do is one of

1996
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.520
<v Speaker 4>the best doing it. So my warning is maybe for

1997
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.119
<v Speaker 4>like gamers who tend to be like that feels a

1998
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:18.479
<v Speaker 4>bit tedious for me, it probably is too tedious for you.

1999
01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is from the game bakers. This is kind

2000
01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of a left turn from that They did Fury and Haven.

2001
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys played Haven. Fury was

2002
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the more stylistic way.

2003
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2004
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Haven was the twenty twenty the like romance set on

2005
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a different planet kind of RPG ish thing. They make

2006
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.199
<v Speaker 1>a quite different games from release to release.

2007
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's cool that they took such a risk

2008
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.159
<v Speaker 4>with this. I think it is a it is a

2009
01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:51.760
<v Speaker 4>huge risk. The last thing I'll also say it is

2010
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:53.640
<v Speaker 4>probably obvious, but I just want to say graphically, this

2011
01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:58.039
<v Speaker 4>game is stunning great and it's it's doing a fantastic

2012
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:00.319
<v Speaker 4>art style that is required for this type of game

2013
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:05.000
<v Speaker 4>because when you are climbing a mountain sometimes the rock

2014
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.239
<v Speaker 4>will look pretty flat except for like the tiniest crack,

2015
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:11.720
<v Speaker 4>and that crack can be the difference of you climbing

2016
01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:14.720
<v Speaker 4>or not, and so this had to have very fine

2017
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:18.800
<v Speaker 4>line work. So this game has vast vistas where you

2018
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:23.159
<v Speaker 4>are being able to as you climb see massive mountains

2019
01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:28.039
<v Speaker 4>and clouds and rainbows and rain systems and god, this

2020
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:30.119
<v Speaker 4>game is so beautiful. But it also has to have

2021
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:35.159
<v Speaker 4>high detail of lines and cracks in the wall and

2022
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.439
<v Speaker 4>in your body so that you can see like where

2023
01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:39.319
<v Speaker 4>you're cut and where you're hurt and what's going on.

2024
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:46.600
<v Speaker 4>This game has threaded a needle of high fidelity without

2025
01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:50.800
<v Speaker 4>giving you so much noise that it's not appealing to

2026
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>look at. This game is beautiful to look at, and

2027
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.439
<v Speaker 4>it's also very nuanced with its art style. I love

2028
01:33:56.479 --> 01:33:58.439
<v Speaker 4>this art style. I think it's it's really nice. The

2029
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:00.800
<v Speaker 4>audio is nice too. I want wondered if maybe you

2030
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.000
<v Speaker 4>might think it kind of feels like death stranding a

2031
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>little bit Dan, like you're not you know, you're carrying

2032
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:08.439
<v Speaker 4>stuff up a mountain and like charting a path.

2033
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:11.479
<v Speaker 3>It's so interesting, And I do typically like the games

2034
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:15.880
<v Speaker 3>that like, you know, communicate things like stamina everything through

2035
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:18.680
<v Speaker 3>like diegetic you know, in world things, So like I

2036
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:21.199
<v Speaker 3>do like that Desk Trending did have a lot of

2037
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:22.920
<v Speaker 3>shit going on the screen, but the idea of just

2038
01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of carrying something or just like this laborious thing

2039
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>turned into gameplay I can enjoy for sure.

2040
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:31.560
<v Speaker 4>So it's cathartic. I think. I think it's like relaxing

2041
01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:34.359
<v Speaker 4>to be like, how will I tackle this really tall

2042
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>rock face? And as long as you have your hittens,

2043
01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:41.920
<v Speaker 4>you usually can achieve great things in this game. I

2044
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:44.000
<v Speaker 4>think it's fascinating. I just have to be again, I

2045
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:45.479
<v Speaker 4>had to be like in the right head space because

2046
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I do think it's a bit slow, I guess is

2047
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:49.239
<v Speaker 4>what I will. I will say it's like, yeah, do

2048
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I want to climb a rock for three hours? Like

2049
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:52.439
<v Speaker 4>all right, this is the one.

2050
01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, do you guys want to talk about emails

2051
01:34:56.479 --> 01:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>or yeah? Okay? Reminder that you can and send in

2052
01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 1>questions for the show to fire Escape Cast at gmail

2053
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>dot com. That is Firecase fire Escape Cast at gmail

2054
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Get your questions read a video game related

2055
01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>or otherwise usually otherwise got some game game specific ones tonight,

2056
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but our inboxes getting low, so refill those the questions

2057
01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:20.720
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the year or at least the

2058
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:24.359
<v Speaker 1>next month. Send one in all right, Mary, do you

2059
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>want to read this one? From Darien?

2060
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Sure?

2061
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the subject I should say was Desert Island video game.

2062
01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:35.039
<v Speaker 1>That's basically it.

2063
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:40.319
<v Speaker 4>Dear castaways. What's the game you could pretty much keep

2064
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.159
<v Speaker 4>playing forever if it was the only one you had.

2065
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Mine has got to be Total Warhammer. Shout out to

2066
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Maharty because there's just so much stuff in it. Cheers

2067
01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Darien from Toronto.

2068
01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I think we've done this before, but I think it

2069
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:55.079
<v Speaker 1>was like a couple of years ago. If Emory serves, yeah,

2070
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been a while.

2071
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.439
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about it again. It's a very different perspective, right,

2072
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:00.800
<v Speaker 4>This isn't the game that you love, although it could be.

2073
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:05.479
<v Speaker 4>This is a game that you could play forever because

2074
01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:07.800
<v Speaker 4>it's the only game you're allowed to play for the

2075
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 4>rest of your life. So it's a very different way

2076
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:11.279
<v Speaker 4>to view your favorite game.

2077
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, man, I don't think it'd be like

2078
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>infinite replayability, But there is something about like punch Out that, like,

2079
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I've played it.

2080
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:22.439
<v Speaker 4>All, you could not choose this game?

2081
01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Really why it just disagrees with your opinion?

2082
01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:30.479
<v Speaker 4>Same, what do you mean that's the point of this podcast?

2083
01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I disagree with your opinion?

2084
01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I was laughing.

2085
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm trying to.

2086
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.279
<v Speaker 4>I know it's subjective, but I just can't imagine there's

2087
01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:39.199
<v Speaker 4>no like mix up. It's the same.

2088
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there's so so much nuanced to how you

2089
01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 2>can go about this. Like I've been playing this game

2090
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.119
<v Speaker 2>for thirty five years and I'm still like, oh, I

2091
01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>know that was possible to know you could do that.

2092
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:49.039
<v Speaker 4>Like the same people, it's the same.

2093
01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>It's the same part that That's the thing is, like

2094
01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I have fought you know, the second Piston Honda a

2095
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:57.399
<v Speaker 2>million times, and I still there's so many little things

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01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.359
<v Speaker 2>that like I've never been able to pull off or

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01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>that like, oh I did know you could beat in

2098
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:03.199
<v Speaker 2>that way or whatever, Like every fight has so many

2099
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>different little variables and things like that that like, that's

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01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:07.439
<v Speaker 2>what makes it a great speed run game, is like

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01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>it does. The way I play this game now is

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01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>completely different the way I played it five years ago

2103
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>or as a kid, And like, I would like to

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01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:15.079
<v Speaker 2>further refine that, you know, but I do think at

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01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a certain point you would hit a diminishing returns, like Okay,

2106
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't really shave off any more time here.

2107
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:22.319
<v Speaker 3>But that's the first thing we came to mind.

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01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, linked, that's a crazy choice. I I would

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01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 4>say it should be something that has like endless replayability,

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01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:32.439
<v Speaker 4>like a world of Warcraft where it's just like you

2111
01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:36.880
<v Speaker 4>cant be in that world. I'm assuming. So he did

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<v Speaker 4>not say, Darien, please confirm if the island has internet,

2113
01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>it's this just said this actually just says like it's

2114
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:46.840
<v Speaker 4>the only one you had. So it's like it's the

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01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.600
<v Speaker 4>only game, Like it should be a game I mean

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01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:51.720
<v Speaker 4>so vast that I could play it forever.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying it needs to have replayability. I don't think

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01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>there's any game I have booted up more in my

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01:37:55.720 --> 01:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>life than Punch Out. There's no game I've beaten more

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01:37:57.640 --> 01:37:59.399
<v Speaker 2>in my life and punch Out, And you're just saying

2121
01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>punch Out right now. I would like to go play

2122
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:04.079
<v Speaker 2>punch Out right now. It's pretty replayable to me.

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01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I wonder over Okay, yeah, because like I my head,

2124
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like my favorite games of all time, my mind immediately

2125
01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:17.039
<v Speaker 1>goes to like Okerina and MAJORA. But even then, I

2126
01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>don't like, if this is this is forever we're talking about. Like,

2127
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>for the record, I don't think there's a single video

2128
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:26.079
<v Speaker 1>game I wouldn't get sick of at some point. However,

2129
01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the one that would probably keep me going the longest,

2130
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.479
<v Speaker 1>total war Warhammer three is definitely up there. But I'm

2131
01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>going to try to be less predictable and something like

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01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like war Frame. Even that kind of

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01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>gets my numbing, Like I want something that I can

2134
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:54.399
<v Speaker 1>actively like, Really, I'm.

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01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:59.319
<v Speaker 4>Not gonna be predictable yet.

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01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Breath, I'm shocked, like Breath of the Wild, I wonder.

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01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I was thinking about that last night because I

2138
01:39:08.319 --> 01:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>was just kind of like fried after a week of

2139
01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>travel and stuff, and I just wanted to play something

2140
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't have to think too much about. And

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01:39:13.640 --> 01:39:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I booted up Breath the Wild, and I have a save.

2142
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Its got like, yeah, it's easy game. Yeah, I've got

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01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>three of the Divine Beast beat and I'm like, it

2144
01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>was so easy to pick up. I haven't played this

2145
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:25.119
<v Speaker 2>save for a few months, and I was like, okay, okay,

2146
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I've got a bunch of shrines that could do. I've

2147
01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>got the Divine Beasts like, I got plenty, I can

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01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>occupy myself.

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01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:33.199
<v Speaker 4>We would mine for like minerals and cook.

2150
01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Stuff for monavous stuff.

2151
01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You can pick it up at any point and it's like, Okay,

2152
01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm having fun immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a good pick. I feel like you could

2154
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:42.720
<v Speaker 4>do that forever. I think maybe if I'm allowed to

2155
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:44.760
<v Speaker 4>cheat a little bit, I would hold and say I

2156
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:46.680
<v Speaker 4>won't play it until it comes out, and then choose

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01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:50.039
<v Speaker 4>GTA six because I think I think I could play

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01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:53.199
<v Speaker 4>that for the rest of my life. My prediction is

2159
01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:55.399
<v Speaker 4>that this game will have so much shit in it

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01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:57.319
<v Speaker 4>that I could play this for ten years.

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01:39:57.479 --> 01:39:59.159
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be funny if it's bad, though it's not,

2162
01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be funny if you would wait and then

2163
01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you had to play this terrible game.

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01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Then to be able to play a bad game, what

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01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:09.079
<v Speaker 2>a It just sucked ass Like objectively like it's plity.

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01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:11.560
<v Speaker 3>All the voice acting is terrible. It kind of looks

2167
01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:12.319
<v Speaker 3>like ship Like.

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01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:15.439
<v Speaker 1>It's not fun whatsoever in marriage.

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01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:18.680
<v Speaker 4>There for the rest of my falling life, God's Sake.

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01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.000
<v Speaker 3>One of the greatest, most refined games of all time.

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01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay from like nineteen Dickity two. This is like a

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01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:27.000
<v Speaker 4>modern world. You could pick any game.

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01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I would also consider x Com too, I think also predictable,

2174
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:36.079
<v Speaker 1>But I gravitate towards stuff with emergent gameplay or procedural stuff,

2175
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's where that's what I would go to.

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01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Like Eugenics is kind of like it just kind of

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01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>keeps going. That's one that I.

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01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Bet you could play that for hundreds and hours. I

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01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:48.640
<v Speaker 4>don't know if I could.

2180
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>But you have to.

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01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:53.439
<v Speaker 4>Have the ability to Hades.

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01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I still think I would, Like I've I've done long

2183
01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>stretches of Hades one and two, and I still was like,

2184
01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:00.199
<v Speaker 1>all right, I've played enough of this game.

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01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Sure I can get sick of Hades. I think it

2186
01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:06.520
<v Speaker 4>has to have something that has a mix up in

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01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:11.640
<v Speaker 4>the core gameplay, like like Minecraft, Like you can play

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01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:13.920
<v Speaker 4>that billions of different ways. You could be like I'm

2189
01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:18.520
<v Speaker 4>going to build a life size replica of my grandmother.

2190
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to build a boat to get home.

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01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then and then die on it.

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01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:28.720
<v Speaker 4>I think you could do so much with that space, creatively,

2194
01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:32.880
<v Speaker 4>problem solving, actually getting, you know, trying to beat the game.

2195
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:36.399
<v Speaker 4>You could play that game hundreds of different ways and

2196
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:39.960
<v Speaker 4>spend tens of thousands of hours, and I don't think

2197
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:42.399
<v Speaker 4>you would be that bored. You might get tired of it,

2198
01:41:42.439 --> 01:41:43.680
<v Speaker 4>but you'ld always try something else.

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<v Speaker 2>He's eight lacrymosive, Dana, and be up there. What e's

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01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:55.680
<v Speaker 2>eight lacermosive. Yeah, yeah, eight lacermosive Dana.

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01:41:55.760 --> 01:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a sound bite. Dan continuing to say

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01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the same weird game game is its island game.

2203
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Though there's a lot going on here in The combat

2204
01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 3>system is great.

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01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always pegged you for a I shouldn't have

2206
01:42:12.439 --> 01:42:15.119
<v Speaker 1>started the sentence that way. I always had you pegged

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01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>for a A yeas guy.

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01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Mainly ye say lackermosive Beana. That's the only one I've.

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01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Played, Dan got the yeast infection. I think we've talked

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01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>enough about our test island games disgusting. I'm gonna call

2211
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:38.079
<v Speaker 1>it weird way to say that. Thank you, Darien from Toronto, Toronto.

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01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:42.119
<v Speaker 1>All right, Dan, Toronto, I almost said Toronto. It's not

2213
01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>how you say it, uh Dan, Oh wait, actually there

2214
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>is first game the named her Violet. I'm gonna cut that.

2215
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>It was just Christian here was showing sent us a

2216
01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>photo of their new kid that they talked about on

2217
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I don't know if we should share babies.

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01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Babies. It's got a round face, you get it, smiling?

2219
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:04.800
<v Speaker 3>You seen a baby?

2220
01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

2221
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, i' you're a baby.

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01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>This one from Christian. I just cut a few things

2223
01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Christian apologies to get her to the question.

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01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>In what way are each of you still like a

2225
01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>baby or child? Examples? Is one of you expect everyone

2226
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>on the street to stop and say how cute they are?

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01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>This is definitely Mike would marry in Christian? Yeah, yeah,

2228
01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:25.359
<v Speaker 2>would marry in the middle of a meal decide she

2229
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>is bored and need to punch someone right in the boob,

2230
01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>or any of you unable to make it through dinner

2231
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>without filling your pants multiple times and smiling about it.

2232
01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Dan, you're the only one left. You get pooping.

2233
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Wish you all the best in lives full of many

2234
01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>blessings In twenty twenty six. That's christ Now listen, Christian.

2235
01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I've set up before, I'll say it again, and I'll

2236
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:43.119
<v Speaker 2>tell you when something changes. I have not shpited my

2237
01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:48.119
<v Speaker 2>pants past diaper's age, not once, but I will tell

2238
01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:50.319
<v Speaker 2>you when I do. I will not be ashamed of it.

2239
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>There are many reasons an adult could shit their pants.

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01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I have not done it.

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01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Genetically, You're the most likely.

2242
01:43:57.680 --> 01:43:59.239
<v Speaker 3>What does that mean He've.

2243
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:01.359
<v Speaker 4>Been passed down from generation to generation.

2244
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.079
<v Speaker 3>My dad just get skid marks. He doesn't like fully dump.

2245
01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Just like a ba my pants. I've talked nauseum about it.

2246
01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:15.399
<v Speaker 1>The jump poop. I still am so proud of I

2247
01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:17.439
<v Speaker 1>like what am I still like a baby? I still

2248
01:44:17.439 --> 01:44:20.199
<v Speaker 1>sometimes wake up in the morning in the fetal position,

2249
01:44:20.319 --> 01:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like I clearly my body wanted to do that night

2250
01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was sleeping.

2251
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:24.760
<v Speaker 4>I like to sleep not fully.

2252
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I do like the like sort of curled up with

2253
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:27.439
<v Speaker 1>my hand between my legs.

2254
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:27.920
<v Speaker 4>It's a ball.

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01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think I do that too, And I thought

2256
01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:31.600
<v Speaker 3>that was a weird thing.

2257
01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard anyone say that for like fetal and

2258
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:37.279
<v Speaker 2>then like arm under and like talk between it's like comfortable.

2259
01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it must be more common than if like, this

2260
01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:41.840
<v Speaker 1>is a this is a sixty six percent use case

2261
01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>right here between three people.

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01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:49.359
<v Speaker 4>That's a good example of the global population. And I

2263
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:52.079
<v Speaker 4>think it's womb we like it's like being back.

2264
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I do a lot of stuff when I'm sleeping that

2266
01:44:56.760 --> 01:45:00.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I sleep walk and talk amandas a saint.

2267
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I haven't a seened to do that before.

2268
01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:02.479
<v Speaker 3>That would creep me on.

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01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I've seen you walking around and not being conscious, but

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01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have anything to do with sleepwalking, old boozehead.

2271
01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I think like a child. I have tantrums, and I

2272
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:21.920
<v Speaker 4>am most likely to have a tantrum based on something

2273
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:25.680
<v Speaker 4>that I think someone who has wronged me or something

2274
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:30.039
<v Speaker 4>bad has happened. Just literally this weekend, I thought I

2275
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:31.600
<v Speaker 4>was going to get a game code and something went

2276
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 4>wrong and I didn't think I was going to get it,

2277
01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:35.479
<v Speaker 4>and I went on a little rant in our discord

2278
01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:37.119
<v Speaker 4>and I said, well I don't get the code, I'm

2279
01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:38.720
<v Speaker 4>not going to talk about that game. I will not

2280
01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:40.680
<v Speaker 4>be there for this part of the podcast because I

2281
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:42.680
<v Speaker 4>don't want to get any spoilers and I and I

2282
01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:44.640
<v Speaker 4>actually stomp my foot when I was typing that toe

2283
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:45.800
<v Speaker 4>you wow.

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01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Amanda was we were getting ready. We did Valentine's Day

2285
01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>yesterday because we were seeing my family on the day,

2286
01:45:52.439 --> 01:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>so we did a week later and we were getting

2287
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:55.800
<v Speaker 1>ready to go out and I was on my phone

2288
01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like and I literally said out loud, Amanda's like, what

2289
01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>are you doing. I was like, Mary just needs to

2290
01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath.

2291
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I was pissed, and I was like, where is this code.

2292
01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:06.439
<v Speaker 4>I was told I was getting this code. I'm ready

2293
01:46:06.439 --> 01:46:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to have this code. Now code does not work. I

2294
01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.039
<v Speaker 4>am upset, and I and you both. I wanted you

2295
01:46:11.079 --> 01:46:13.560
<v Speaker 4>to both hear about it, and I did not. Only

2296
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:16.560
<v Speaker 4>did I text in the discord. I texted Mike and

2297
01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:19.439
<v Speaker 4>interrupted his life to be like, this is a big deal.

2298
01:46:19.960 --> 01:46:21.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah into the discord.

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01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've seen Dan get weird about game codes before.

2300
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah once once once. It was at the in

2301
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the New York office when I.

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01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Was a physical.

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01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:35.479
<v Speaker 1>No I remember the game. I don't, but I remember

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01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:37.720
<v Speaker 1>like you were bothering Vinnie about something.

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01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>And I remember I remember one in New York, but

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01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:41.159
<v Speaker 2>it was a physical one that I remember. I went

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01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>in over the weekend to he would shut up the

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01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>mail room.

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01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Good, No, this is something different. It was a Friday

2310
01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was getting to like four thirty pm Eastern,

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01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and you were pacing around like why why haven't they

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01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.079
<v Speaker 1>said it? Can I should? I think that Vinnie's like, Dan, Yeah,

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01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.159
<v Speaker 1>this is a while ago though. Yeah, there's thing was

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01:46:57.279 --> 01:46:58.359
<v Speaker 1>yesterday less defensive.

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01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, Dan's grown a lot.

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01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

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01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:06.319
<v Speaker 3>The game is making peace with not getting its way,

2318
01:47:06.600 --> 01:47:08.600
<v Speaker 3>and so it's like when something is like, wait, I

2319
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>don't want it to be like this.

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01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I will just fill a buster and just just be

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01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>like what, No, I what do I need to do

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01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.079
<v Speaker 2>to get my way right now? Because it's all I'm

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01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:17.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna do until I get my way.

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01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a bit of a leading question. Yeah, and

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01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.479
<v Speaker 1>please refute me. I'm not I'm not trying to get

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01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:25.439
<v Speaker 1>you guys to maybe I'm wrong. Am I the most

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01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:30.159
<v Speaker 1>emotionally mature of us? Three? Genuine question? Do you? From

2328
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>your point of view? I'm not saying I'm.

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01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Always I think I am, so I think people would

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01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:37.439
<v Speaker 2>be surprised by how emotionally mature I am.

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01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:40.359
<v Speaker 1>No, I know you're emotionally mature in some ways.

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01:47:40.479 --> 01:47:43.479
<v Speaker 2>I think the way you just said and like genuinely

2333
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>dealing with people and how me and Bianca are together

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01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and everything.

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01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm emotionally mature.

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01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:51.680
<v Speaker 4>It's a little saying you're a baby. We're saying you're

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01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:53.960
<v Speaker 4>lower on the totem pole than Mike, who keeps his

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01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.439
<v Speaker 4>ship together in almost every respect of his life shits together.

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01:47:58.199 --> 01:47:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Am I?

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01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me right that. It's a load of question.

2341
01:48:01.439 --> 01:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It was unfair. Let me reframe this. Am I the

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01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>most emotionally mature in situations where something's not going my way?

2343
01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if you can deal with things not going your way,

2344
01:48:10.479 --> 01:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>then yes, you're more mature.

2345
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I like.

2346
01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:17.960
<v Speaker 3>My brain breaks in two if I don't get my way.

2347
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I know it does, and the like twice our friendship,

2348
01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Like once our friendship has become strained. I I don't

2349
01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:27.800
<v Speaker 1>have a specific instance my head, but it was I

2350
01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:31.359
<v Speaker 1>think it was your fault. I would love to know

2351
01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what that is, peacefully. What was it? No, it's it's

2352
01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>all like that. It's that's the stuff that comes to mind.

2353
01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Is like when when Dan's got an idea of how

2354
01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.199
<v Speaker 1>the next day or two should go in his head

2355
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I know better than to fuck with

2356
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that now.

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01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, because history is just shown that, like there's always

2358
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:50.800
<v Speaker 2>a way there's always a way to get where you

2359
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:51.319
<v Speaker 2>want to go.

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01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:53.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just a matter of how much the pain of

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01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the asks have to be about it.

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01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh oh, I remember what it was the getting

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01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>back into MSG. I really did not super like you

2364
01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that night.

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01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:06.119
<v Speaker 2>That was a moment where I was like, why am

2366
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I not getting what I went right now? I like

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01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:11.039
<v Speaker 2>to go backstage to Manchester Square Garden. I was just backstage.

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01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Let me back there again, and they were.

2369
01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>No. The only information you had was that a guy

2370
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:20.039
<v Speaker 1>named Chad could help us out, and the police officers

2371
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like guy I worked for the NYPD. I don't even

2372
01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck is going on there. I can't

2373
01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>let you back in.

2374
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I have one job, blackout, drunk and arguing with the

2375
01:49:28.920 --> 01:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go hang out with wrestlers more.

2376
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yep. That that That was the literal only time I

2377
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was actually like, did not want to be around you

2378
01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like you were. I was on the cops. I was

2379
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:41.119
<v Speaker 1>on the cops side. That's how annoying you were being.

2380
01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I just really annoying.

2381
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:47.479
<v Speaker 1>You get tunnel vision for sure. Sorry, this didn't have

2382
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to become about you. I'm just curious because I think

2383
01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:50.399
<v Speaker 1>like the ways.

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01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:56.079
<v Speaker 4>And is super annoying.

2385
01:49:55.319 --> 01:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>And I'll take that over angry or violent.

2386
01:49:59.239 --> 01:49:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.880
<v Speaker 3>For the temper emotional, I do not have a temper.

2388
01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have a temper.

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01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I can. I don't know, like because Mary's

2390
01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>got the temper, dance, got the like tunnel vision. I

2391
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:15.079
<v Speaker 1>think on the emotional spectrum, I think my biggest weaknesses

2392
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:17.399
<v Speaker 1>within the confines of our group. I can be stubborn

2393
01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>for Mike.

2394
01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:20.439
<v Speaker 2>You do have a certain thing where it's like, oh boy,

2395
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:24.439
<v Speaker 2>if you don't like someone, you know, you are like

2396
01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I want them dead.

2397
01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I like, you can't be in the same room without glariot. Yeah,

2398
01:50:32.680 --> 01:50:33.119
<v Speaker 3>very well.

2399
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>If I don't like you, you've got problems, buddy, like

2400
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I And.

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01:50:36.680 --> 01:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I've never seen you really come around on

2402
01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:40.760
<v Speaker 2>someone like the people that I can probably write a

2403
01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>lot eight names right now that it's just like Mike's

2404
01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:44.039
<v Speaker 2>dead to.

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01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Me if you say it and then I don't want

2406
01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to make more work for Jake. But you just beep

2407
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and I tell you whether I've turned around and them,

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01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is that worth it?

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01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.640
<v Speaker 3>You got to be ready with the beeps. I'm going

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01:50:56.680 --> 01:50:58.239
<v Speaker 3>to also cover my mouth to the video.

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01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't tell I'm excited for this all okay, okay, yeah,

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01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:04.159
<v Speaker 2>example number one.

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01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Fuck that guy. Fuck him No, I will never ever

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01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>come one on him. Keep going exactly.

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01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well that was that was number one?

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01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you started with the top.

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01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:24.680
<v Speaker 2>That's Mary, Mary, you got one. You wont take a turn. God,

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01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:25.800
<v Speaker 2>that one is so glaring.

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01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:29.600
<v Speaker 4>That was obvious that everybody dislikes that.

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01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody likes that guy.

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01:51:34.880 --> 01:51:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that was just such an obvious one that, like,

2422
01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there are other ones, but that.

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01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you've got, you know one, I almost just

2424
01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:43.479
<v Speaker 1>said way too much and like almost revealed who it

2425
01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:44.159
<v Speaker 1>was without the beep.

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01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I mean, I know people you dislike.

2427
01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:52.319
<v Speaker 4>I wonder how like hard we're going, right, I'm just.

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01:51:52.239 --> 01:51:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Trying to see if I have come Yeah, if I've

2429
01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>come around on anybody.

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01:51:56.119 --> 01:51:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I don't remember the exact name, so I'm

2431
01:51:57.880 --> 01:51:58.920
<v Speaker 2>just gonna describe this person.

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01:51:59.399 --> 01:52:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh I think it's Oh yeah, no, I don't like

2433
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:04.960
<v Speaker 3>him at all.

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01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:09.119
<v Speaker 1>That's not his name, but I know exactly it's not

2435
01:52:09.159 --> 01:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>even the right name. I know you got the last

2436
01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>name correct, Okay, uh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no no,

2437
01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:20.119
<v Speaker 1>because I don't I don't think I unfairly like anybody,

2438
01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>dislike anybody. I think I have valid reasons for all

2439
01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:26.119
<v Speaker 1>of them, Like these first two you mentioned.

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01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know you like I'm either no, yeah,

2441
01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm with ye, fully with you.

2442
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Second one just super pompous.

2443
01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't hang on ready.

2444
01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh of course not nobody likes her either. That's not

2445
01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:44.800
<v Speaker 1>just a me thing. This is so fun. It's cathartic

2446
01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>as fuck for me. I didn't mean to turn this

2447
01:52:46.039 --> 01:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>into a therapy session. I'm trying to think if there's

2448
01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:53.800
<v Speaker 1>anyone I have done a one eighty on. Oh, actually

2449
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>there's there's. I've got some there's an intense enough dislike

2450
01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:00.079
<v Speaker 1>where I get to that I can't come back, but

2451
01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>like there's they have the opportunity to save to turn

2452
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:04.399
<v Speaker 1>it around.

2453
01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I've definitely had that over time, where it's like people

2454
01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:09.039
<v Speaker 2>that like, oh boy, it just seems like we don't

2455
01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:11.479
<v Speaker 2>like you Chiller at all, you know, in twenty fourteen

2456
01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and now it's like, oh yeah hung out with these

2457
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:16.119
<v Speaker 2>people and yeah they'll you know.

2458
01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I said they have one yeah, Mike, Mike. Oh, I

2459
01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 1>never had the huge problems with her. That was more

2460
01:53:24.039 --> 01:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I know who did I don't I don't like her,

2461
01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>but I like, I never like intensely disliked her.

2462
01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, okay, ready right right, yeah, oh god.

2463
01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:42.279
<v Speaker 1>That that he earned my ire for sure. Like over

2464
01:53:42.439 --> 01:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a long period of time, I try, I gave that

2465
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>guy chances. That's funny, Okay, that Jake, there's four there

2466
01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>should be four, be no, it's five or five?

2467
01:53:52.319 --> 01:53:53.960
<v Speaker 2>This is so And all of them were ones that

2468
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you superhte well, no one of the merry one was

2469
01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:57.000
<v Speaker 2>like Mike didn't hear.

2470
01:53:57.279 --> 01:53:59.439
<v Speaker 1>To my credit, though, I would not care if any

2471
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of these people heard this Jesus, Like, I take pride

2472
01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:04.399
<v Speaker 1>in that I don't.

2473
01:54:04.439 --> 01:54:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't.

2474
01:54:05.159 --> 01:54:07.079
<v Speaker 4>They would know too, they'd be like, yeah, that's.

2475
01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:12.439
<v Speaker 1>All probably two two three, I think all those people

2476
01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:16.279
<v Speaker 1>know except for the third one.

2477
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:18.600
<v Speaker 4>And today is the day we learned that Mike is

2478
01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.880
<v Speaker 4>the most emotionally mature of all of us. Yeah.

2479
01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:25.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I've I'm stubborn in who I dislike, But I've

2480
01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:27.319
<v Speaker 1>definitely there's been a couple I've turned around on, but

2481
01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:29.800
<v Speaker 1>those were not like intense dislikes. Those were like I

2482
01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>don't really like this guy. I'm not this guy's biggest fan.

2483
01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But then later on I was like, actually, no, you

2484
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know what, they turn around. There's been a few after

2485
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:40.720
<v Speaker 1>we stop recording. I'll name a fear.

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01:54:41.319 --> 01:54:42.359
<v Speaker 4>You're on the good list.

2487
01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I would.

2488
01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I would actually say, I think we're all probably around

2489
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the same level of like we all have our little

2490
01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:52.039
<v Speaker 2>things that are a little not as mature. But I

2491
01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:54.479
<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone's like wildly in one direction.

2492
01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>No, no, Yeah, we're doing great, We're doing fine. Yeah,

2493
01:54:59.039 --> 01:55:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we're doing fine. And if you don't think

2494
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>we're I'm gonna be stubborn. I'm not gonna like you about.

2495
01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:04.159
<v Speaker 4>It, like you're going on the list.

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01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Christian. That's our emails today. Oh god, I

2497
01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:15.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta really uh make sure to tell Jacob. Yeah, all right, well,

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01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:18.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you Christian. Thank you Darien as our email section.

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01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>That's our episode. Like I said, fill that inbox. Back up.

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<v Speaker 1>The more creative questions that lead to fun combos, the better.

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01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:27.800
<v Speaker 1>That's fire skip cast at gmail dot com. That is

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01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>episode one hundred and twenty seven. We recorded it well

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01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in advance. I'm curious to see what everybody else thinks

2504
01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>about Resuevil Requiem. Sounds like people might be pretty positive

2505
01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:37.399
<v Speaker 1>on it. Once the embargo lifts. I'm excited to find out,

2506
01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>excited place.

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01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:40.199
<v Speaker 3>Think it's gonna be very well received.

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01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I might if if my travel uh what's the

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01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>word I'm looking for my travel travels continue, I might

2510
01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:53.399
<v Speaker 1>use the time bought back not traveling to play resid evil.

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01:55:53.319 --> 01:55:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I would say, too, like I don't know how it's

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01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna run on steam deck. I didn't try, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it's one to like, you know, like Mary and I

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<v Speaker 2>both had that experience that you know at night, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Set the mood pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, maybe I'll have Supreme. That's rough out right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole world is white.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially the gray stuff. The great stuff at the care

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<v Speaker 2>Center is like top non. I'm more excited for that

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<v Speaker 2>than which Leon stuff is super fucking fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, It's just the gray stuff's better.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. All right, Dan, what do you have going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we close the episode out?

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<v Speaker 2>We are killing it over at giant bomb dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Lately we got new stuff we are launching. We just

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01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:38.720
<v Speaker 2>launched Abby's show, The Marry Me Tomadacci, which is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Tune in for that. But yeah, just go to giant Bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Chack of the BombCast. Blake Club's killing it. We've just

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<v Speaker 2>got so much stuff going on over there, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>all been very exciting. More to come to cool, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>What about.

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<v Speaker 4>You, I'm playing, Uh, I'm streaming games on Twitch usually

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01:56:53.880 --> 01:56:55.880
<v Speaker 4>before we talk about them here, and I think that's

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01:56:55.960 --> 01:56:58.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of cool. So sometimes my very first impressions of

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01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.039
<v Speaker 4>a game will be on Twitch. I I streamed Karen

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<v Speaker 4>that was kind of like my first reaction to it live,

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<v Speaker 4>so I think that's a good place. And updates about

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<v Speaker 4>my dog and normal life on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary, I had an idea I want to run by

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<v Speaker 1>you that's related to Resident Evil, and I'm sure people

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01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>are wondering what our plans are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I was going to offline it because I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to put pressure on you, But what's I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And I don't want to. I almost don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention it because if we don't do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I that's my fear too. I'll tell you after. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to set anything up because your your

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01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:36.359
<v Speaker 4>travel is so bad in the next few weeks and

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01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:38.600
<v Speaker 4>then mine's bad in March, and so I was like,

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01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:40.800
<v Speaker 4>what I don't want is for us to like make

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<v Speaker 4>people wait.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't be time soon, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but obviously I do think we should figure out

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<v Speaker 4>how the next Resident Evil will work, and I have

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01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:51.319
<v Speaker 4>some ideas. Yeah, so that is something we will figure out,

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01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.520
<v Speaker 4>but just due to work and travel, and I also

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01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:58.640
<v Speaker 4>have some projects that I'm working on secretly that I

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01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:00.680
<v Speaker 4>have to finish too. So one all that stuff is

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<v Speaker 4>done that I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool And if you're not a patron of ours, through Patreon,

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01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you can add free episodes and the video versions of

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01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the episodes. We also do bonus videos, recordings, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we can find time to go to Deep Dish

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01:58:16.159 --> 01:58:19.800
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01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:22.479
<v Speaker 1>or just go to patreon dot com look up fire

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<v Speaker 1>Escape Cast. That's our Episode'll be back in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks for episode one twenty eight. Looking forward to

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01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>chatting with you guys again. Will you have been to

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans by then or no, March We'll publish on

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<v Speaker 1>March seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 4>We go on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at our next recording. No, no, we're recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at some point I want to I want to

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01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>catch up on that trip. Unfortunately I cannot make it.

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01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like merry enough.

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<v Speaker 3>To Recordings from now will be right after. I'm true looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Forward to that. No, I don't, I don't dislike you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Thank you Dan, thank you Mary, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>body for coming to listen. We will see you in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks. Till then, Bye Bo.