WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.160 It's time to hit the pitch. On the drive. The 2 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:05.120 RSL Insider Today and every day is brought to you 3 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.320 by beer bar Head Downtown for watch parties and game 4 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:12.599 day shuttles to the stadium. More at beer BARSLC dot com. 5 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.839 Glad Today, Dish Professionals Tuesday Afternoon. 6 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.440 Style eight oh one four two four Dish is the number. 7 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.239 Four eighty six West forty eight hundred South is location 8 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.399 a little southwest. On the show today, we've got some 9 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:27.920 sound from Utah football practice we're gonna bring to you 10 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:30.039 coming up. We'll call it about thirty minutes from right now. 11 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.039 Ben Solac from ESPN stops by to talk NFL. Max 12 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.840 Brown later on for more college football, but starting at 13 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:40.399 three o'clock hour today we'll do a little RSL. The 14 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.640 club is back in action coming up this weekend on 15 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.439 the road against Charlotte, a tough result after taking the 16 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:48.600 lead against New York over the weekend. A couple of 17 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.920 new additions to talk about. The head coach of our 18 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.560 local soccer club, Pablo Master. Johnnie hops on on Tuesday Afternoon, 19 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:55.479 Pop's Happy Tuesday. 20 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.359 How we doing happy to do this well? Buds? 21 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:01.079 Are we really doing well? Are we really doing well. 22 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:07.239 I mean, look, frustrating series of events against New York 23 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.000 after taking that one no lead is gozo tallied really 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.640 early on? Uh, now that we're a couple of days away, 25 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.480 where you at with what I perceived to be some 26 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.640 And I'm not a blame the officials, guy. 27 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:20.120 I really am not. 28 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:24.239 But when it appears to be egregious and honestly what 29 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:27.640 it appears to be like the same dude, it's hard 30 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.879 to entirely ignore. So which target on a Tuesday afternoon, 31 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.799 are you still most fired up about after a really 32 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:39.159 really tough series of events that went against you guys 33 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:39.879 against New York? 34 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.680 Yeah? You know again, I think the way I always 35 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:46.760 look at these things in reflection is like, what could 36 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:49.599 we have done differently from from our standpoint? Obviously in 37 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.519 the in the short term, which is the game, which 38 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.640 is the thing that matters the most, is about getting 39 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:59.719 the result. And obviously, when those calls are to your points, 40 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:03.719 agree just as they were and left everyone really confused 41 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.959 as to how you know, the processes work with within 42 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:12.520 the league, you know, and those those decisions obviously affect results, 43 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.080 and that's that's the hardest thing to swallow. And then 44 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.120 obviously afterwards, I think through three days later, we're talking 45 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.400 about different phases of the game that we can improve 46 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.719 upon to have more control of the ball, to play 47 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.840 the game more on our terms. But the other part 48 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.000 of that too that you didn't touch on was the field. 49 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:29.879 And you know, I talked to their head coach before 50 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.360 the game and he says, I don't think we should 51 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:34.599 play this game based upon the field conditions. I mean, 52 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.000 it was it was unplayable. And so you put all 53 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.520 that together and it is one of those where you 54 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:40.919 just had to find a way to get out. But 55 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:46.680 again the two penalty calls. You know, here, here's here's 56 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.599 my biggest disappointment with with the process of of how 57 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:54.120 the ar works. Right, the two operative words and how 58 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:56.439 they're pitching this to all the clubs and all the 59 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.479 coaches is clear and obvious, right, There's got to be 60 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:04.840 a clear an obvious mistake by the official, not a technicality, 61 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:10.560 not maybe not if right, And so what ends up happening, 62 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:14.240 Spence is our stadiums are not staffed to have camera 63 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:18.000 angles from every possible angle to make sure that it's 64 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.960 clear and obvious. That's the first problem, and so on 65 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.240 Var's bk it looks like he gets the piece of 66 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.599 the ball. You could argue maybe you did get it. 67 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.360 Depending on the angle, it leads you to two different results. 68 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.719 And so then it goes back to their statement about 69 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.759 clear and obvious. And so my whole thing is, if 70 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.960 there's an official standing underneath the monitor for more than 71 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.840 thirty seconds, it is no longer clear and obvious, right. 72 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.080 And so each one of those instances and then the 73 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.599 off side's called a whole different bag of chips, right 74 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.280 because the line's been called it offside, and our cameras 75 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.759 are from midfield, and so you know how the angle 76 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.800 of the view to the ball is not going to 77 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:01.879 be as clear as a professional who's beamed it off sides. 78 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:07.159 And so when when when both of these plays affect 79 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:10.400 exactly what they what they speak to us about is 80 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.680 we're not going to re referee the game. We're just 81 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.599 going to make sure that the call wasn't an egregious 82 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.879 non caller or an egregious call. And and so they're 83 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:23.360 they're basically re refereeing the game using bar and and again. Again. 84 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:27.399 When when it leads to uh drop points is the 85 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.399 moment where everyone's shaking their heads and so tomorrow, I'm 86 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.199 on a call with uh, you know, Kurt and and 87 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:40.360 then the competition head at MLS along with the head 88 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.920 of of pro referees to get down to the the 89 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.160 nitty gritty as to why these decisions were made. And again, 90 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.240 they're not going to give us any points back, but 91 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.519 if they can improve processes for for everyone moving forward, 92 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.839 I think it. At least we didn't lose points in Vain. 93 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.639 So there's a small part of me that believe Diego 94 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.000 needs a little time off. Okay, small part of me 95 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.959 that believes he's just a little bit on fumes. 96 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:06.120 And we talked about that. 97 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.439 So I suppose, you know, not having him this weekend 98 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.600 might be beneficial for the stretch run. 99 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.560 But you got to help me understand. 100 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.279 I mean, the Kyle Duncan kid pulled him down and 101 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.040 it looked pretty obvious in real time. 102 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.399 The assistant ref had the correct. 103 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:26.800 Call, correct right, and and and so ultimately, you know, 104 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.240 Diego sent off and then they send Kyle off upon review. 105 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.879 I'm just confused, man, Like, help me understand that series 106 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:38.319 of events. How did you digest that from your vantage point. 107 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.800 The same way you did Spence? The linesman had it right, 108 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.720 He blew a foul against this guy, so and the 109 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.839 way he grabbed him around his neck, Diego had no 110 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.920 choice but the fall on the guy. There's no other 111 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.240 there's no other place for him to go. He's dragging 112 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:54.519 him on his hip. So and again like, this is 113 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.279 what I want to know from from tomorrow's chat with 114 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:00.000 these guys as as the how they're doing these things 115 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.720 and how these decisions like it. You know, because Diego 116 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:07.199 got a yellow card for talking to the ref earlier on, 117 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:08.920 so I don't know if it was personal between the 118 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.279 ref and Diego and he wanted to, you know, and 119 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:13.959 he wanted to make a point, but like it's just, 120 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.839 you know, you lose one of the most you know, 121 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.720 important players on our team and obviously and one of 122 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.160 the guys in our league that's doing really well by 123 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.800 not owning that moment as a center ref and saying, hey, listen, 124 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.680 is this is this you know, going to talk to 125 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.639 the linesman. What happened to those days when you'd have 126 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.160 dialogue with the lignsmen and say, hey, listen, what did 127 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.319 you see? And he's like, well, I saw him put 128 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.560 his arm around his next so we have nowhere to go, Okay, great. 129 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.639 So it's a foul our way. So there's a lot 130 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.639 of these instances that I think could be dealt with 131 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.360 if their processes are improved and the communication is improved. 132 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.000 Because all of this led to and what was really 133 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.480 disappointing is they went back and reviewed after they had 134 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.759 a free kick up a man right because they sent 135 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.720 Diego off but they didn't send Duncan off. And then 136 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.879 they have free kick of a man, which if they 137 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.000 would have done everything right and said, hey listen, he 138 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.560 put them in the choke hold before the playton started, 139 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.600 none of this would have even happened. So, you know, 140 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.240 and I we talk about all the time is we 141 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:16.920 got to control the controllables, and unfortunately the uncontrollables for 142 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.800 us impacted the way that game finished and the result. 143 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.720 One more thing on the officials, and then we'll move 144 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:25.839 off of it because other things to get to for sure. 145 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.360 And I don't know, maybe around two thousand and eight, 146 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.199 two thousand and nine thereabouts when our team started to 147 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.040 get a little bit better and the club started to 148 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.639 play better, and you know, we would always have these 149 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.720 conversations about how the sport and how the league is evolving. 150 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.240 Is the talent better, Is the coaching better, are the 151 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.759 facilities better, more soccer specific stadiums, And it seemed like 152 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.120 the one thing that wasn't improving was the officials. 153 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:57.600 And I don't know how you would articulate that, but. 154 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:02.040 For a league that is adding uh, you know Sunny, 155 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:07.120 Thomas Mueller, Lionel Messi, I mean some real international powerhouses 156 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.079 and you know owners that are coming in with deeper 157 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.600 pockets and valuations for teams that are through the roof, 158 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.720 and soccer specific stadiums being built all across the country, 159 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.560 does it feel like the officiating from a macro viewpoint 160 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.720 is keeping up with the progress that every other facet 161 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:24.839 of this sport in this league seems to be kind 162 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:26.120 of manifesting right now. 163 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.519 Yeah, I think that's a good question, and I would 164 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.320 say I would say it's it's it's pretty inconsistent, you know. 165 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:38.080 I think a well reffed game is a game where 166 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.240 you don't even realize who the center f is, you know, 167 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.320 and it's and everything's calm. Everything is like the fouls 168 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.799 er fouls and not no fouls or no fouls, and 169 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:50.279 there's consistency in the way the game is. The game 170 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.600 is refed, and sometimes you need to blow to us 171 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.399 a little bit more because the games chip yer, but 172 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:59.720 it's understandable from both sides. I think what what the 173 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:04.919 straining part is is is the lack of consistency and 174 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:08.200 within the one game. Right within the one game, it 175 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:11.440 just feels like it's really one sided. And so I 176 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.200 think a big thing that would help this and more, 177 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.799 you know, is the var and the implementation of how 178 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.480 we're going to utilize that and how it's used. I 179 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.799 think it you know, we're given the ref so much 180 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.200 to do by going over to the video and spending 181 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.840 four or five minutes underneath this camera the game. Meanwhile, 182 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.080 the players and the fans come to see the players, 183 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.879 not the referee underneath the video. So if we can 184 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.639 improve that, and then as far as the off sides is, 185 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.639 if we want to be a top league, I think 186 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:46.399 we have to invest in getting these lines that other 187 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.799 leagues in the world have so where it's not it's 188 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.960 not subjective. It's not like looking down a bad camera 189 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.320 angle and guessing if these off sides and it's a 190 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:58.559 red line and a blue line, and if the blue 191 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.639 lines over the red line, then it's off. And it's 192 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.799 really really clear and I think, because what you don't 193 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.399 want is the conversation to be about the inconsistency and refereeing. 194 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.000 If you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna bring in 195 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.080 talent from abroad, you want that to be the last 196 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.600 thing these guys are considering. So I think there there's 197 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:19.240 got to be some some some improvements and and it's not. Again, 198 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.600 it's not like they're not working hard every day because 199 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:25.879 I know, I've seen the protocols to be a ref 200 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:29.039 and it's daunting the amount of physical work, the amount 201 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:33.639 of reviews they do. But it comes down to the 202 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.159 presence in the game, you know, you know, having this 203 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:40.399 presence where it's going to be. If it's a little 204 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:42.039 bit hectic, I'm gonna bring it down a little bit, 205 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:43.879 but I'm going to keep it both ways so that 206 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.840 the game is intact. At times, I feel like the 207 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.200 game is actually compromised at times by some of the 208 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.320 decisions that are being called. 209 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.799 All right, moving off that topic, and let's just talk 210 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.440 about the game. I don't let's start with the goal. 211 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:59.080 It's one of my favorite goals. You guys have scored 212 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:03.440 all year. I don't know how many passes, maybe eleven 213 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.559 twelve thirteen Diego's left footed ball. It's just like, that's 214 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.919 so wild that he was able to find Willie who 215 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:12.120 laid it off and Gozo finishes. So give me your 216 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.320 thoughts on the start, the build up that led to 217 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.080 a one to lead, and then a tenant to the 218 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.639 question is do you guys think you were Do you 219 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.840 think you guys were dangerous enough after that sands all 220 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:23.759 the officiating stuff that we've talked about. 221 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:25.679 Yeah, no, that's a great point. 222 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:25.840 No. 223 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.639 I think again, going into this field, I think there's 224 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.120 two different two different ways of operating. One we can 225 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:34.080 play to the field or we can play true to 226 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:38.279 who we are right and so we're a team that 227 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.320 again we want to pull teams. We want to build 228 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:43.960 from the back, not just to be arrogant in the 229 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.480 way we play, but there's actually a tactical application where 230 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.200 if you bring a team forward right to pressure goalkeeper, 231 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:56.159 that means you're you're The whole thought process in playing 232 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.279 short close to goal is to exploit the space behind 233 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.519 the back line because then it becomes dangerous. So we 234 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.200 call those fasts attacks and that play I think it 235 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.960 was like a twelve thirteen past combination. It goes out left, 236 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.320 it comes inside of Mecca, Mecha finds our ten, and 237 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.440 Luna finds our forward, and William finds our second forward 238 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.159 and Gozo and so I think that that is like 239 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:21.759 textbook training ground application, and the guys did it really well. 240 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.840 I think after the goal a couple things started happening. One, 241 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.960 we couldn't get enough pressure on the ball from our 242 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.240 guys up front, and that was the first part. And 243 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.919 when we didn't, when we did win the ball back 244 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.960 closer to our goal, we weren't dynamic enough in our 245 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:40.519 transition to attack to be able to beat their repress. 246 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:44.759 In other words, there's a rule that most pressing teams 247 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.879 use was six seconds after you lose the ball, you 248 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.759 got to get pressure on the ball, right. So the 249 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.399 opposite of that is we need six seconds of extra 250 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.480 movement and angles to be able to beat that press. 251 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.000 And what happened was we found ourselves defending quite ait 252 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.240 it and that six seconds has to be a switched 253 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.639 on and we were late to every one of those 254 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:10.840 transition to attack moments, which then compounded we're now deep 255 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.159 defending again, right. And I think a lot of that 256 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.399 had to do with the field and those little short passes, 257 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.919 the balls hoping everywhere it's going, and so we weren't 258 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:19.799 really clean and then you start losing a bit of 259 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.399 confidence in your ability to play out and so I 260 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.480 would say not until the second half, and probably fifteen 261 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.840 minutes in the second half we regain our footing and 262 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.080 a big part of that was Pablo Luis coming into 263 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.600 the game and calming the game and being that outlet 264 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.200 pass that found the next pass that allowed the team 265 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.480 to move forward and breathe, and then from there we 266 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.600 were able to create two or three really good attacks 267 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.799 on goal and if not for the crossbar, found the 268 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:48.039 second goal to win it. So you know, today's session 269 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.360 was really focusing on our transition to attack and making 270 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.360 sure that we're moving six seconds after we win the 271 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.000 ball in order to make sure that we're able to 272 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.159 keep it and not get stuck in this tidal wave. 273 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:57.519 But defending close to our goal. 274 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.039 Help me understand how in a professional setting a field, 275 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.919 because it was interesting. I didn't know you felt the 276 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.559 way you felt until postgame, but I'm watching the match, 277 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.120 I'm like, that looks like a local muni field in 278 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:16.639 like you know, West Valley that hasn't been watered in five, six, 279 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.039 seven weeks or whatever. 280 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:20.279 How is that allowed? 281 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.919 How are conditions like that allowed when it comes to 282 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:28.159 a professional league in the biggest major metropolitan area in 283 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.360 our country by the way, you know, like it is 284 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.360 New York, like bef, Like, how is this allowed? And 285 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:37.519 what sort of benchmarks or you know, guardrails are in 286 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.600 place to kind of keep this from happening again? 287 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.559 Yeah, you know, I think, Well, here's the thing is, 288 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.919 obviously every every club is trying to maximize the revenue. 289 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:50.519 They had a concert on that field a few days 290 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.720 before the game, and you know, I talked to the coach, 291 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:56.320 like I said, before the game, and he actually commented 292 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:01.039 after the game and said that game shouldn't have been played. 293 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.639 The field was not in any kind of standard to 294 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.279 be played. At one point, Spence, I had the fourth 295 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.120 official step onto the field because I'm not a lot 296 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.639 of step on the field, but there was a one 297 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.279 and a half foot by one and a half foot 298 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.080 plot of sod that just lifted up and there was 299 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:20.759 like probably an eight inch pivot. And so again, like 300 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.799 this is the one sport where you're using your feet 301 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.840 and the most important part of any stadium is the 302 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.879 actual turf. That you're playing on right, So it's not 303 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.919 like it's American football and you're running routes. The ball 304 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.919 needs to roll on something. And and if we're going 305 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.240 to be a team that that prides himself on playing 306 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.120 with the ball on the ground and combination play, well, 307 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:47.919 this is obviously not conducive to any of that. And 308 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:49.320 and to be fair to Red Bull that they're a 309 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.039 team that wants to play too and in a lot 310 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.240 of different facets, but they're aware that the field isn't 311 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.639 that way, and you know that they're they're a more 312 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:59.039 direct team where they're where they're playing balls for it 313 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.240 and knocking it down and so you know, but to 314 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.399 be fair that their own coach said the same thing 315 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.440 I did. It's not safe, especially when you have these 316 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.039 million million plus players, you know, dollar players on the field. 317 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.720 Our biggest asset as a league are the players themselves, 318 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:17.200 and we're putting them in harms way by by playing 319 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.600 on you know, fields that are that are in that 320 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:20.279 type of condition. 321 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.120 Let me go back to Diego for a moment. 322 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.639 Is there a part of you that does kind of 323 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.799 feel like he might need a weekend off to kind 324 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.879 of decompress and rest and get his legs on it. 325 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.000 I mean, look, you he's probably your best player, so 326 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.919 of course you want him in the lineup, and you're 327 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.200 a better team with him. I'm not saying you're not, 328 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:42.600 But is there a part of you that's like, all right, 329 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.200 I could take the weekend off and let's get you 330 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:45.960 back ready, you know, with fresh legs. 331 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:51.200 Yeah, and yes, yes, one hundred percent agree with that. 332 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.039 I think the toughest thing to do with, especially a 333 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.519 young player, you know, in in Diego Luna, because we 334 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.679 oftentimes forget that he's only twenty one years old and 335 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.039 is rise to where he is now almost seems like 336 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.839 it's you know, it's in the last eight months, what's 337 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.279 been it's been brewing, but like the last you know, 338 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.559 four months, really he's shot up in the you know, 339 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.000 the stratosphere. As far as recognition, we don't go to 340 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.519 one stadium where he doesn't have fifty to one hundred 341 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.920 people waiting for him after games, you know, people waiting 342 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:23.920 for him at the hotels, and the amount of media 343 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.240 that he does. Right, so all these things are parlane 344 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.880 into like performance, you know, because you went from not 345 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:32.400 having it to all of a sudden, how do you 346 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:35.400 deal with this kind of stuff. And so that's one 347 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.880 thing that we're talking about internally, is how do we 348 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.480 take some of the weight off of them? And that's 349 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.160 one area that we can definitely do it. The other 350 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.839 areas on the field, and you know, for a young player, 351 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:50.240 he's not he doesn't have enough experience in his career 352 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:52.519 to be like, yeah, I need a break here, and 353 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.480 like he's open and honest about needing a break, right, 354 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:58.000 he wants to keep proving because what got him to 355 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:00.799 this point wasn't taking a break. It was put is 356 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:02.920 put your foot on the on the gas and pressed 357 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.200 as hard as you can, right. And so I think 358 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:09.920 this moment is is a is a great, a great 359 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.759 way that the universe has has allowed for us to 360 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:15.160 give him a break in a way that he can't 361 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.640 resist because it's it's already happened, right, And so I 362 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.880 think it's critical. I think he needs a bit of 363 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.400 a reset. He's been going hard since the beginning of 364 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.640 June without a break. And you know, I think I'm 365 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.680 giving him a break by not starting him against Sam 366 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:32.440 Luis and what he Okay, so he didn't play fifty minutes, 367 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.960 but he's still doing all those other things. So I think, 368 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.440 you know, maybe giving him after tomorrow, giving them the weekend, 369 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.160 a good four or five day break where he can 370 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.839 kind of reset, be with his his his son in 371 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.279 Texas and get away from it all so that he 372 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.440 charges his batteries back and and when he's when he's 373 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:54.440 recharged and he's you know, dialed in, there's no doubt 374 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.160 that Diaga Luna makes us a great team. 375 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:57.880 All right. 376 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.440 So we've seen Rowan Cruz a couple of different i'ms 377 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.640 and you know, de truncated moments. In League's Cup Player 378 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:05.680 final match, we saw him for a minute and then 379 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.519 he came on in the second half against New York. 380 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:11.920 Things like this take time, and this is a process. 381 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:15.119 So let's start with Rwan. What have you made of 382 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.079 the performances as you put him in as a sub 383 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.920 over the past couple of games, And probably more importantly, Pablo, 384 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.240 what are you seeing in training that indicates when this 385 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:26.480 thing kind of gets rolling, he could be a good addition. 386 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.279 Yeah. I would say he's got a really really good 387 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.519 understanding of the game, and I think that soccer i 388 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.240 Q in that part of the field is really really important. 389 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.839 You know. I think he's he saw in the New 390 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.599 York game where he did really well receiving the ball 391 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:43.920 with his back to goal, so his hold up play 392 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.839 was solid. Decisions from that were really solid. And then 393 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.920 there's also a moment or two where he made runs 394 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:52.880 behind the back line and was able to stretch it. 395 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.119 And so I think when you have a player with 396 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.920 a high soccer intelligence that's comfortable with the ball at 397 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.480 his feet, with his back to goal, and then also 398 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.839 running into space, it really allows us to be more 399 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.599 diverse than the way we attack. And so he's he's 400 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.319 been awesome, you know, looking towards this week, I think 401 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.119