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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. It is Sunday, May thirty first, I'm

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getting this one in just before the clock turns over

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and we are in June. It is eleven fifty one pm.

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Just wrapped up another day down at Paris Slash Horseshoe

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for the twenty twenty six World Series of Poker. There

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were seven tournaments running today. Seven. The place is as

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alive as it has been this summer and it is

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freaking awesome. We'll hit on a bunch of those tournaments

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that happen, might not touch on every single one, but

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you know, we'll do our best. Of course, some big

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news that went down today. A million dollar bounty was

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pulled down at Believe. That was pulled at Horseshoe is

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where they were doing day two of the Mini Mystery Millions.

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There were some other big bounties pulled as well. A

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couple two hundred and fifty k ones, a few one

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hundred k ones we got. The twenty five K Heads

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Up Championship is working its way down to the final

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four now. At time of recording, there are still eight

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players remaining. They are playing out the final round right now.

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I'm sorry, guys, I'm not waiting up till this ends.

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I don't know when it's gonna end, so we're doing

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this on the fly. If anything comes across my desk,

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i'll talk about it as if it's happening now, that's fine,

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But if not, I'm just gonna basically touch on who

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the final eight are and then we'll go from there

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to set up what will be the final day on Monday.

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And then Nick Shulman, the Goat, as some may say,

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was denied gold bracelet number eight. We'll talk about that

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one throughout this podcast as well. And then I got

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a little bit of a take here, at least I

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want to throw my take into the ring after a

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question that recently came up on the WSP Countdown Show.

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And then speaking of that WSP Countdown Show, which is

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what it is officially called, as we learned when I

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spoke with Jeff Platt on the last episode of the podcast,

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if you didn't listen to that episode, I just want

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to remind you go back and listen to it. A

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little special edition podcast drop. It was just Jeff and

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I talking about the new era for the World Series

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of Poker, the new Grand arena that the final tables

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and the feature tables are being played at, plans for

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the coverage, the streaming, all that sort of stuff. Jeff

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is a good friend of mine and we had a

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really good chat that was taking that took place on

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the last episode. If you are listening to this podcast,

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please please, pa, please do me a favor. Come on,

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hit the favorite button, leave a review, like subscribe, do

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whatever you gotta do. Tell your friends, tell your family.

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I'm going to tell you guys this on probably every episode,

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so just do it please. It really does help us grow.

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And I really want you guys to send in some questions,

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some comments, your own takes and thoughts on the twenty

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twenty six dobs ap to email podcasts at PokerGO dot

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com and I'll see, if you know, if they're good enough.

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Even if they're not. If I want to make funny whatever,

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I'll likely read it on air and then listen. I've

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been getting a lot of questions about Tim. About Tim Duckworth. Doucky,

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my guy who was on the podcast before, is not

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on the podcast. Now here's the deal. I fired it,

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just kidding. The real deal is that Tim has a

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different role this summer, he is working directly with the

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production team. He's basically a table liaison. He did a

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lot of that in recent years with our team, but

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as this summer is a much more scaled up offering

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of what's going on, and we are handling the production

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side in partnership with the WSP and in partnership with

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Gigi Poger, it's just a lot heavier lift. Like, for example, tonight,

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he's going to be doing the table liaison stuff. I

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don't know till maybe two or three am, who the

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heck knows. So his schedule doesn't really jive with the podcast,

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at least for right now. So there's obviously a chance

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he comes back on when that schedule shifts back to

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more of a normal thing, But at least for these

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early days here, he's been handling that twenty five K

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heads up, which has been running pretty late every night

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so far. So yeah, listen, I'll do my best to

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do it myself, and I really love doing it. So

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you know, if it was a choice between I can

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either do it myself on a lot of the days

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or people aren't getting a podcast, I'm choosing to do

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it myself. Okay, So that's why I'm here bringing you

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guys the podcast again, hopefully every single day that we can.

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As we go, you know, I will continue to work

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in some good interviews. I just talked about the show

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that I did with Jeff Platt talking with him. We

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had Daniel Gebba a winner interview from him. We had

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a special interview that I did with Nick Palmer as well.

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Both of those were two episodes ago, so go check

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those out as well, and we'll carry on throughout the

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summer as best we can. I don't know what's going

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to happen on days when I play. I do plan

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on playing eight events, the first of which is coming

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up on Tuesday. I'm going to hop into this. I

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don't even know really what it's called, the ws AP

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Circuit Championship. I guess I don't know. I should get

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the I should get the actual name of this tournament.

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The name of it, PERWSP dot com, is the nola

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At Hold Them US WSP Circuit Championship. I don't really

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know what that means. I don't think it's anything special

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other than a branded way to help promote the WA Circuit.

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But I'll be in there fire on that one. It

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starts on Tuesday. You are allowed three bullets max. One

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entry plus two re entries. I am bringing all three

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shells ready to blast off. Let's freaking go. Hopefully I

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can still pod and do it extremely late at night

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and I'll just be running deep. You know. That would

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thing up for the news of the day. We got

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Nick Shulman, the man, the myth, the legend, the goat,

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was denied his eighth w Soop gold bracelet. He finished

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second in the fifteen hundred dollars badoogie event from a

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field of five hundred and fifty four entries. Shulman collected

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ninety four thousand dollars in prize money. But I don't

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think it's really about the prize money for him in

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a tournament like this, It's more about getting number eight,

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getting another piece of WASP hardware, more legacy, all that

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sort of stuff that goes with the great Nick Shulman.

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The winner Michael Cassella won it for one hundred and

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forty one thousand dollars. It was his first World Series

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of Poker Gold bracelets. These two battled a long ass time.

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I think heads up play lasted three to four hours.

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Shulman did have the lead at one point, but then

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he ultimately got short. But when he got short, it

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was like every time that Shulman was all in, he

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just kept doubling up, kept doubling up, kept doubling up.

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Shulman just couldn't hold on any longer. He was ultimately

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overcome by Cassella. Scott sever finished third in that one.

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But I know a lot of people out there were

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rooting and were sweating the action and hoping that that

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Nick Shelman would get number eight. A lot of actually

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a lot of big names stop by to hang out

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on the rail. You had Eric Washerson, Jason Mercier, Matthew Wantman,

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Jean Barbart Baland came over many times, was saying, you

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got this, Nikki, you got this Nikki likely, you know,

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verbally cheering his man on. Frank Brannon was there on

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the rail. You know, people just kind of Darius Martino

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stopped by at one point, so you know, people were

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come by, they were really they're really sweat and Nick

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hoping that he could get number eight, but ultimately fell short.

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That said, a second place finished ninety four k is

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still a very good result, especially this early in the summer,

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and Nick's gonna have plenty of opportunities to go out

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there and get his eighth WSP Gold bracelet. If he

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were to win it, he would join You got Michael Mzrocky,

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Benny Glauser and Sean deeb they all have eight. Ahead

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of them, you got Johnny Moss's got nine. Then there's

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three players with exactly ten. Eric Saidel, Johnny Chan and

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Doyle Brunson. Phil Ivy has got eleven, and then of

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course Phil Hellmuth has seventeen. So all of those players

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have reached at least eight gold bracelets, if not more,

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tied at seven alongside Nick Shulman. Third place finisher Scott

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sever in this event, sever was also going for his

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eighth WSFP gold bracelet. Brian Rast has seven and the win

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or men the win. I was gonna say men the master,

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but then I wanted to leave out the master, and

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then I got tripped up. Men win as seven, uh

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d n Eggs Daniel and Legrand who also has seven,

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John Hennigan with seven, Billy Baxter with seven, and Josh

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Aria also got seven. So a lot of players there,

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a lot of really good players could have a really

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really good opportunity to get to get to number eight,

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and heck, maybe even more. I mean a couple of

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summers ago Scots he was out there winning three goal braces.

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Day two of the WSP Mini Mystery Millions took place Today,

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twenty thousand, four hundred and eighty eight entries were tallied

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in this tournament, total six starting flights to get there.

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That makes this tournament the twenty twenty six Mini Mystery

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Millions the sixth largest live poker tournament of all time.

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It moves ahead of the twenty twenty two WASP Housewarming

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event that had twenty thousand and eighty entries, and then

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it slotted just behind the twenty twenty four Gladiators of

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Poker also ASP event. That event had twenty thousand, six

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hundred and forty seven entries, so booming field in that

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one did think it would get up over twenty thousand entries,

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and it did. Today was Bounty Day when they announced

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the bounties. You had a one million dollar bounty up

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for grabs. You had two two hundred and fifty thousand

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dollars bounties up for grabs, and then you had four

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one hundred thousand dollars bounties up for grabs. Of course,

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there was a slew of other bounties, but those were

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the biggest in the Treasure test and Andrew Shelton was

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the man who pulled the million dollar bounty and it

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was pretty wild. What happened to him when he pulled it.

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So I was reading through the story on Andrew Selton

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Shelton pulling the million dollar bounty over on pokernews dot com,

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and he said, when I drew the gold chest, I

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was under the gun. So I said, I'd play my

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button and then go up after that, because if the

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screen populates that he'd get a gold chest, you get

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to go up and actually draw out of the chest.

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Shelton continues, But on my button, I got ace king

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in against pocket aids to bust so Shelton. Shelton says, okay,

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I'm gonna play my button, then I'll go up. He

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plays his button and busts on his button. Then he

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goes up and it's a million dollar pull. He went wild.

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He was screaming, he was yelling, he was celebrating and

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jumping up and down. The emotion, the reaction you love

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to see when you turn a five hundred and fifty

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dollars buying into a million dollar bounty pull, absolutely incredible stuff.

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Shelton finished in one hundred and second place in the

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tournament for thirty three hundred and fifty dollars, so you

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know he good cash there. Obviously good run hundred and

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second out of twenty thousand and four hundred and eighty

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eight entries, but then pulling that seven figure bounty just

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absolutely freaking insane stuff. You had Jacob Long and Adidia

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Sisla pulling two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bounties each.

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I don't really understand this, but those bounties were actually

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two hundred and fifty thousand, three hundred dollars. I don't

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get that, but that's what they were worth. And then

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you had Christopher George Cartek, Ved, Peter Lee, and Hunter Payne.

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Those four players each pulled one hundred thousand dollars bounties.

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First place in this event is still up for grabs

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as well, four hundred thousand dollars up top again five

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hundred and fifty dollars buying in this Mini Mystery million tournament.

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I believe I saw. I just did a quick scan

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of the chip guns. I'm not gonna look through him,

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you know, too crazy right now, But I did see

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Mike Leah was stilling. I mean, he's probably gonna win

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with the way that that guy performs in big field

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Pobra tournament. So that tournament I believe, is set to

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finish on Monday, so stay tuned for some more news

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from the Mini Mystery Millions. The twenty five K heads

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up is down to the final eight. Sixteen players returned

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for day two, then the final eight are. These are

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the matches that are happening right now as I record,

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you got Bowding up against Dimitar dan Chev. You got

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Carrie Katz playing Ryuta Nakai, you got Henry Pustinen playing

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Nikita KU's nets off, and Thomas Boyvaan is taking on

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Alex Fox and they are all up. On the main stage,

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those final eight players have locked up one hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars. A min cash was worth sixty K.

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Then they got one hundred and fifty thousand. I believe

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it was our sixty k if I remember correctly. If

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not shoot me, but whatever, the final aid are getting

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one hundred and fifty thousand, and there's an eight hundred

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thousand dollars first place prize up for grabs. This is

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a PGT qualifying event, so there will be some implications

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for the PGT leaderboard that eight hundred thousand dollars first

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place prize that translates to four hundred and eighty PGT points.

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So you know, as we go out throughout the summer,

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there are thirty one PGT qualifying events. We are Poker

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gro we do have the Poker Grow Tour. So yes,

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I'm going to talk about it and we'll see how

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that leaderboard starts to get adjusted and moved around as

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we go on the BSIP Countdown show, not the one

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that was done today, but the previous one. There was

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a question that came up. They always do kind of

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hot topics or questions and then all the panelists, you know,

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give their points and debate and all that sort of stuff.

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But the question was asked if heads up poker is

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the purest form of poker, And I know that that's

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often thrown around. I know that that's often thought about.

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You know, some people say the purest form of poker

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is Nolanman hold them. Some people say the purest form

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of poker is nolantdo seventh single draw. Some say it's

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specifically heads up poker when it comes to Nola A

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hold them. So that's what this question was centered around,

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and after giving it some thought, here's where I land,

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and I'm gonna apologize ahead of time for what is

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essentially going to be some fence straddling here. Now, the

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case for heads up being the purest form of poker is,

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you know, there are a couple of things working in

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the favor of that. That's going to be your argument.

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There's nowhere to hide, right you're sitting there. You got

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to play basically every hand. I mean, you don't have

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to play every hand, but if you don't play nearly

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every hand, you're going to get absolutely steamrolled. In heads

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up poker, every decision that you make, every hand that

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you play, every street that you play, every bet that

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you make, all that sort of stuff, all those decisions

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they are only against one opponent, which I think just

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magnifies the scope of everything. Because when you're constantly doing

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the same thing over and over again, and in the

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case of heads of poker, you're constantly planning aainst the

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same opponent repeatedly, you know, those patterns start to build,

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and then there's a lot of you know, adjusting to

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the patterns, pattern recognition, metagame, all that sort of stuff.

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So adjustments and counter adjustments matter more than table dynamics

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in a heads up format. Positional battles, you know, hand reading,

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timing of things. You know, this is a big stack

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over here, he's just attacking the little stacks over here.

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He's got a certain position at the table. There's there's

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all those different elements when you're playing more than just

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heads up. You know, six handed, full ring, whatever it

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may be. All that sort of stuff is very much

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amplified when it's just one on one. You're under the

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microscope every single hand. Now, what I just said is

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is you know that's kind of the that's the case

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for heads up poker being the purest form. Now where

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I think it starts to break down a little bit,

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and I don't think it fully breaks down, But there's

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a volume argument that comes into play specifically with heads

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up poker tournaments because listen, when you play heads up cash,

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and specifically when you play heads up cash games online,

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you know that is where you can get in tens

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of thousands of hands. You know you can play if

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you're playing heads up cash online, you know you can

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play one opponent or across multiple tables for a lengthy

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period of time, and next thing you know, you're playing

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multiple thousands, if not tens of thousands of hands against

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a singular opponent, So the card distribution and the edges

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that are present from either player, you know, that all

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becomes to become much more, you know, apparent it just

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it just becomes fine tuned quite a bit more. Again, this,

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I know this is a little bit of fence straddling

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here because I just made the case for why heads

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of poker can be the purest form. But now I'm like, well,

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heads up tournament poker, I don't know if it can

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be just due to the time and volume constraints. Now,

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if you want to do a heads of poker tournament

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that last two weeks, Okay, I get it, Like that's

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a different animal, right, but you can't do that. It's

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just not possible. Most heads up poker tournaments are done

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in two or three days, if not one day, if

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you're playing you know something that's a little bit smaller

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buying or whatever. So you know, heads up poker, yes,

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it can be the purest form of poker because every

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decision is magnified and there's nowhere to hide. But a

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heads up poker tournament isn't necessarily the purest test of

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skill because the sample sizes just ultimately are too small.

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So the purer that the format becomes strategically, the more

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volume you need to accurately identify, you know, who's ultimately

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the better player or who has the bigger edge, and

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then that edge applied over an extended period of time

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is likely going to you know, normalize a bit more. So, yes,

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I don't think there's any argument that heads up poker

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is an extremely pure form of the game. But when

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it comes to heads up tournaments, when you are constrained

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by time, when you are constrained by getting to a

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very very large volume, you know, it's not necessarily the

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best measure of this being the purest form of poker.

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So yes, that is some fence straddling. But I've been

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thinking about this for a day and a half and

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that's where I settled on this, on the question of

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you know, is heads up poker the purest form of poker?

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So the answer is yes, but you know, yes because

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of this reason. But this is also where it starts

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to break down a little bit. It's the biggest PLO

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how to win with PLO Mastermind. It's time to stop

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guessing and start winning. All right, Now that I got

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my heads up, take out of the way, let's just

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bounce around quickly to what's going on elsewhere around the

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World Series of Poker. You got Phil Hellmuth, the one

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and only, is pushing for gold bracelet number eighteen. I

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mentioned earlier that he's one of those players who has

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at least eight WSFP gold races. He's the way the

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hell up there was seventeen. He's chasing number eighteen, and

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he is down to the final couple of tables in

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the ten thousand dollars buy in Omaha High Low tournament.

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Last I looked about fifteen or twenty minutes ago, Helmuth

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had a top two stack. He was behind just Scott Clements. Now,

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of course, chips can fluctuate quite fast in tournaments, but

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he looks like he's been going strong. With the way

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that Phil Helmuth plays, the style that he enacts in

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these tournaments, he's always a very, very very tough one

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to kill, so if he has a lot of chips,

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I can only imagine this is really setting itself up

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for a final table run. I don't know what the

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streaming plans are for Monday, but I would say that

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if helm Youth is in line for number eighteen, better

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turn them dem cameras on because the hell of a

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lot of people are gonna be watching and wanting to

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watch Phil hemm Youth go for number eighteen. And even

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if he doesn't, you know, Phil helm Youth on a stream,

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it's always just pure entertainment, right, especially in a game

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like like Omaha Hi Low, where I'm sure he's gonna

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have a few choice words his own thoughts, and I'm

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sure that will come out with how his opponents are playing,

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you know, especially if he starts starts taking some beats.

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You got Scott Clements in the mix, still, you got

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James Ops, Rob Misrocki, Josh Aria, they were all still

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in with a couple of tables left. At time of recording.

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I think it's four hundred and fifty thousand dollars up

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top in that one, in the six hundred dollars deep

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stack that kicked off today. Quite a weekend if you

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if you got into the the last flight of the

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five hundred and fifty Mini Mystery Millions. Maybe that worked out,

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maybe it didn't. But then today, you know, you got

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the six hundred dollars Deep Stack starting tomorrow or sorry,

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on Monday kicks off the fifteen hundred dollars Nolman hold

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Them six Max. And then on Tuesday you got that

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seventeen hundred dollars Doubsipy Circuit Championship event. So a nice

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little string here for the lower buying Nolan at Holden players.

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But in this six hundred dollars deep stack, four thy

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six hundred and twenty two entries, goodfield, big number, but

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it is down twenty five percent from last year. Last

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year this event, same event number, event number ten had

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six thousand and ninety entries. So a bit of a

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downtick there, but we have seen several downticks across the board.

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I think it's just par for the course, you know,

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And it's not just the Doubsip events. You're you're seeing

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numbers that are not that they're necessarily down a ton

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or missing guarantees is what I really should say, because

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you know, other venues do a lot of guarantees, but

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it's more like they're kind of like just making guarantees,

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which when you're operator and you're sweating a guarantee never

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you don't want to just make it, you know. I

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know I always say that, like you should fall within

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a little bit of a guarantee, a little bit over.

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That means you set a good guarantee that was hard

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to attain. But I think operators always love to smash it.

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That's always the phrase, guarantee, smash guarantee crushed on you know,

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day two or whatever. But it makes them sweat a bit.

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I get it. You know, we had a guarantee it

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in the Poker gro studio that we had to sweat.

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I mean, it's not fun to sweat those things. But

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you know, down there in the six hundred dollars deep stack,

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the ten k GGI millions kicked off that had around

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two hundred entries and I when I hit record, they

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had the clock pause. They must have been playing out

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the final couple hands of the day and they were

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right around two hundred entries. The clock said one ninety four.

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But maybe there was a couple of people that got

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in because this is unlimited entry and you can register

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into Day two, so you know it might have been

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some stuff that wasn't tallied yet. That said, around two

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hundred entries on day one. A in this ten thousand

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dollars buy an event takes place on Monday. The survivors

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from both flights will come back on Tuesday. Ultimately, if

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I have this correctly four day event. The structure in

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this one is wild. So you start with one hundred

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thousand chips and it's one hundred two hundred, so you're

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starting with five hundred big blinds. Now, in the WSP

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Main Event, the greatest tournament in the world, you start

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with sixty k and the blinds are one hundred three

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hundred big lines, so you have an incredibly deeper start

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starting stack here in this ten KGG millions. You also

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have unlimited rantry in this tournament, and then you have

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max Late registration and you can come in on Tuesday

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and you can come in with twenty five big lines.

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That is a ton of big blinds to come with

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Max Late. So I'm gonna guess that I mean basically

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between today or between Sunday and Max Late redge on Tuesday,

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like you can get other tournaments in right so I

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think a lot of other a lot of people might

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just wait to max late this thing on Tuesday. Might

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it might be one of those things where, you know,

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I think we saw it for sure last year, if

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not the year before too. But like the max late

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reg you know, you have fifty sixty. However many people

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showing up at the end, they got to do like

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a full tournament rejaw, like that whole thing that kind

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of delays everything. I think this is gonna be one

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of those tournaments where you're gonna have a ton of

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people showing up with twenty five big lines, which is

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a lot to work with. You know, normally you come

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in max lay, you're working with I don't know, twelve

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and a half bigs, fifteen bigs whatever, I mean, twenty

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five that's a reasonable stack. You can actually play a

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bunch of hands and play them to the river. So

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that's gonna be something something to consider. And then we'll

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00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:52,160
see how how Day one B of that tournament goes.

474
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,839
Obviously we always expect starting flights to increase as you

475
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,240
go deeper into the structure, but we'll see. You know,

476
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,799
we already have one tournament earlier that did dip from

477
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,279
Day one B to Day one A. But obviously that

478
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:07,880
that shot up right after that. I would expect, let's say,

479
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359
three hundred to three point fifty on Day one B.

480
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,599
That's gonna be my guess. So get up over five

481
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,640
hundred for this tournament. I don't know. Well, you know,

482
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,319
we'll see this is this is an interesting tournament, and

483
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,160
we'll see how it goes, right. I mean, there's a

484
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,359
lot of heavy hitters. I was walking around the field

485
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,039
today a little bit. You know, all the all the

486
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,200
big nolemic guys are in there, you know, but I

487
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,319
know a lot of people were talking about the structure

488
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:33,160
and how it's almost too good, and that they'll just

489
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,640
take advantage of that that late registration and then go

490
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,759
play some other things in these two days and go

491
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,279
from there. Also, kicking off today, you had the fifteen

492
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,240
hundred dollars no limit deuced to seven single jaw. Now

493
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,079
this one, you know, we've talked to times about how

494
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,480
these numbers are down. This one had a nice boost

495
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,359
over last year. So last year they had five hundred

496
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,079
and thirty two entries in this tournament. This year six

497
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:59,440
twenty six, that's an eighteen percent increase. That is tremendous

498
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880
to get to get a boost like that in this

499
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,519
tournament again fifteen hundred dollars, no limit, deuce to seven

500
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,960
singles d all. So that's that's really cool there to

501
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240
see this event get get an up tech tick like this.

502
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,119
You know, I think the ten k O eight, by

503
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,599
the way, was down a tiny bit. You know, it's

504
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:18,880
very much in line with last year. So you know,

505
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,960
some events are holding strong, other events are dipping down.

506
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,440
But here, you know, we get a nice uptick from

507
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160
this uh fifteen dollars ducee and well and we'll see,

508
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,960
you know, Nolan duce and we'll and we'll see if

509
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,599
you know, some other these events start to uptick as

510
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,920
we go. You know, I think I think the first

511
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,759
couple of days you're coming up Memorial Day weekend, people

512
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,720
are still trying to kind of get their bearings. You

513
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640
get a bunch of people still like coming in from

514
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,720
trit and all that sort of stuff. So you know,

515
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,319
I think I think numbers will still be pretty good

516
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,839
carrying through. I was talking with David Baker, her good

517
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,559
friend ODB the other day, and he was saying how

518
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,160
he's still bullish on the WAD event, which I am

519
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,039
still bullish on the wasb min event, you know, and

520
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,960
I think I mentioned that with uh in my conversation

521
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,640
with Jeff Platt. But I'm just you know, I still

522
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,319
think that, Like I don't know, part of me says

523
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,000
GG poker slash the wicip is gonna do whatever they

524
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,279
can as the summer goes on to cramp more people

525
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,759
into that tournament. I don't know. That's how I just feel.

526
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,240
I feel like you come out with this like this

527
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,200
is your first I know, last year was their first

528
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,279
year owning the Dobsip you know, I'm talking about GG Poker.

529
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,119
But this year, like you come with this new giant

530
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,279
ass arena, like you're doing all this new streaming stuff.

531
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,839
You move from the Horseshoe over to Paris for everything.

532
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880
You know, you got one hundred events on the schedule,

533
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,000
like it's you know, everything is like okay, let's go,

534
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,359
this is our thing. Now we're rocking, we're rolling. Well

535
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160
do you want to couple that with a lower number

536
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,519
in the event. I don't think so. So I think

537
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,720
they're gonna they're gonna turn the heat up, you know

538
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,079
quite a bit. Maybe that means more satellites, Maybe they

539
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,559
leverage more stuff on wsp dot com here in the

540
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,680
States as we get closer to it. Maybe it's more

541
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,920
live satellites, you know. Maybe GG poker is ramping stuff

542
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480
up on their platform for rest of the world. I

543
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,920
don't know what it is, but that's just the sense

544
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440
that I get, you know, like I don't think you

545
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,000
want to come out and do all this amazing stuff.

546
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:19,640
But then at the end of it, people are only

547
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400
talking about a number when it comes to the douvas

548
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,640
main events. Now, I've always said it and I'll say

549
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,160
it again. Whether you get seventy five hundred eighty five hundred,

550
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,400
eight thousand, nine thousand, ten thousand, eleven thousand, whatever it is,

551
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,920
those are insanely big numbers for a ten K freeze out,

552
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,799
you know. So yes, those numbers are great. But we

553
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,559
all know how the media is and we're always going

554
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,039
to be talking about things, and it's like, okay, you

555
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,680
know what sort of decline is in poker because the

556
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,559
WASIP minivent is this big barometer for the entire industry,

557
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000
and I just think it's it's kind of hard with

558
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,799
how everything is. One. You got the taxing, the ninety

559
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,880
percent rule that sucks. I hate it. I hopefully it

560
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,759
gets you know, reverted, but you know, what can you

561
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,920
do right now? It's there, right and people are you know,

562
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,759
worry about it, and they're concerned about it, so you

563
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,200
got that. Another thing is it's just freaking expensive. And

564
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,680
I don't think a lot of people have a lot

565
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880
of money. I mean, it's just it's just the nature

566
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,039
of the world. Everything is going up, up, up, up up,

567
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Yet you know, salaries and all that sort of stuff

568
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,480
aren't really you know, following at the same pace, so

569
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,519
it's hard. Maybe people just have a little bit less

570
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,400
money to throw around when it comes to pover that said,

571
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,119
if you are going to throw money around, it's going

572
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,079
into the waspre main event as far as I'm concerned.

573
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,920
So I am still bullish on the ubas main event.

574
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,720
I am still sticking with my prediction that it gets

575
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,880
back up over ten thousand entries. That is my prediction,

576
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,799
and I'm sticking with it until I tell you guys

577
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,799
that I'm not. So let's gobs to be main event.

578
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,839
And with that, I got nothing else to talk about.

579
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,359
I'm sure you guys in stick are tired of me,

580
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,039
but again, you know, I do want to hear your thoughts.

581
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,440
I love hearing questions from you, guys. I love hearing

582
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,279
takes from you guys. I love hearing if you want

583
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:07,880
to debate me, if you want to argue with me,

584
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,400
if you think I'm right, if you think I'm wrong,

585
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
whatever it may be. Maybe there's some stories out there

586
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,079
that are developing that you guys know about that I

587
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:17,599
don't know about. If there's any of that podcast At

588
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,519
pokergroat dot com, I get in the inbox every single day.

589
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,359
I look for stuff, so please hit me up through there.

590
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,000
I love engaging with the fans. I've met a couple

591
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:31,079
of you at Paris or Horseshoe this summer, and I

592
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:35,359
hope to meet many more of you. So that's that.

593
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:38,319
That's gonna do it for this episode of the Poker

594
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:40,279
Girl Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. It was a

595
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,880
pleasure as always, and now we'll talk to you guys

596
00:33:43,400 --> 00:34:02,680
next time. Oh

