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Speaker 1: It's interesting as we kind of go deeper into these

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urban legends and you start to see how they reflect

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the cultures that they come from.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Like uh Lallrona, for instance, she's not just some scary

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lady who like hangs out by the water. She's really

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deeply rooted in Mexican folklore. Yeah, and she kind of

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speaks to a lot of the societal anxieties around things

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like motherhood and betrayal and you know, even the power

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of nature.

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Speaker 2: Totally. It's not just like a spooky ghost story. It's

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a cautionary tale. It is wrapped into ghost story exactly,

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and it's like a reflection of the weight of expectations

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that are placed on women in that society. Yeah, and

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the tragic consequences they come with defying them, right you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the fact that she's always hanging

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out by water, yeah, adds another layer to that too,

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because in a lot of cultures, water represents that like

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boundary between life and death.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good point, you know. Yeah, It's like

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she's trapped in this in between space right forever searching. Yeah,

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speaking of these liminal spaces. Okay, what about Bloody Mary.

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Oh yeah, that whole ritual of chanting her name in

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front of a mirror always felt like a way to

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kind of peek into.

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Speaker 1: Another dimension, right, like you're trying to summon something. Yeah,

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but it's also kind of playful at the same time,

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it is playful, like scary, but it's also fun, right,

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you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's a game almost, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But a scary one, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And it usually takes place in a bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which again adds to the creepiness factor. Why is that, Well,

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because a bathroom is a very like private space, right,

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Speaker 2: Reflection literally and figuratively exactly.

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Speaker 1: So when you're inviting something into that space, right, it

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just makes it extra creepy, it really does, you know.

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who's usually depicted as this like vengeful spirit, revered and flow,

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and that reinforces this idea that you're doing something you're

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not supposed to write.

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Speaker 2: You know, breaking a taboo exactly, Yeah, like a dare

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gone wrong, Yeah, with potentially terrifying consequences.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's switch gears. A little bit, okay, and

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talk about a creature that's caused quite a stir in

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recent decades. All right, the chupacabra.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, the chupacabra.

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Speaker 2: I remember this one being like all over the news

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for a while, right, with all these mysterious livestock deaths.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a creepy one.

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Speaker 2: It's a creepy one.

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Speaker 1: It really taps into that fear of the unknown again. Yeah,

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it's idea that there's something sinister out there lurking in

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the shadows. Exactly. And it's often described as this like hairless,

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canine like creature with spot yeah, sharp spines and you know,

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the whole blood draining thing.

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Speaker 2: That's creepy.

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Speaker 1: It's very creepy. And it's interesting because a lot of

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the sightings happen in these rural areas where people are

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more connected to nature and the mysteries of nature.

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Speaker 2: Right, so it's like more believable, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, And it plays into those deep seated fears that

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we have about like what could be out there exactly, Yeah,

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waiting to strike.

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Speaker 2: It's like a modern day vampire.

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Speaker 1: It is like a vampire, but with.

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Speaker 2: A much more monstrous edge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so do you think there's any truth to these stories?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the million dollar question, isn't it. It

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is it's like are they real or are we just

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trying to explain things that we can't readily understand?

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Speaker 2: Right? Like is it just our brains trying to make

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sense of the chaos? You know? Yeah, and I think

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that's what fuels so many of these investigations and debates. Yeah.

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mange or something, the legend persists. It does, which I

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Speaker 1: It is interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's like we need these histories we do to remind

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us that not everything can be easily explained.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.

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to another creature that blends human and animal characteristics in

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a truly disturbing way. Okay, I mean the goat Man

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of Maryland.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the goat man is classic. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like half human half goat, right with this penchant

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for terrorizing those who cross his path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a friendly dude.

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Speaker 1: He's not a friendly dude. No, it's like a creature

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straight out of a nightmare, it is. And I've always

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been so fascinated by these hybrid figures in mythology and folklore.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, me too. You know, it's like I think

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they represent this like primal part of ourselves totally, you know,

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like the wildness that we try to tame, but it's

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man's often associated with an axe, right, which is so interesting, Which.

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Speaker 1: Is so interesting because an axe is a tool that

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Speaker 2: Or for bad, right, for creation or destruction exactly. Like

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it's a symbol of our progress as a species, but

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also a reminder of our capacity for violence.

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Speaker 1: It is very true. And also I think the setting

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where the goat man is supposed to live, like the

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dark woods of Maryland, adds to that whole thing too.

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Why well, because it's like this place where civilization and

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wilderness collide, you know, it's like the unknown can easily

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creep into our world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a reminder that we're never truly separated

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from nature, right, The wildness is.

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Speaker 1: Always there, always, they're lurking.

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Speaker 2: Lurking just beyond the edge of our carefully constructed world exactly.

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Speaking of things looking just beyond our understanding, what about Mothman, Oh, Mothman.

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Mothman is one of those figures that seems to straddle

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the line, he does, between folklore and something.

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Speaker 1: More unexplained, Right, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to categorize him, it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he's this creature often described as this large winged

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humanoid with these glowing red eyes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, super creepy, so creepy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember reading about the Mothman sightings in Point Pleasant, West, Virginia.

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to coincide with these reports of strange lights in the

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sky and other unexplained phenomena.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like something out of a sci fi movie,

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it is, isn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Mothman's often seen as a harbinger

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of disaster, appearing before tragedies like the Silver Bridge collapse,

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just adds to the mystery and fear surrounding him, it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like he's trying to warn us, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or tell us that something terrible is about to happen.

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is it just a figment of our collective imagination.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: But he's scary.

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Speaker 1: He is scary, that's for sure. The Mothman continues to

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fascinate and frighten in equal measure. Absolutely, Speaking of things

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that just sent chills down your spine, what about the

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legend of the liquor?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, the liquor.

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Speaker 1: This one is particularly unsettling because it takes something we

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normally associate with comfort and love, right, the bond between

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a pet and its owner, Yeah, and twists it into

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something truly terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.

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Speaker 1: So it's the story about a dog licking its owner's

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hand as they sleep, only to be found dead the

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next morning, with a chilling message suggesting that the dog

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was actually a monstrous creature.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, it wasn't a dog at all.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a dog at all. It plays on our

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primal fear of betrayal. Yes, like that unsettling realization that

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even those we trust the most right can turn on us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the fact that it happens in a bedroom,

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in your bedroom, like the place where you should feel

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the safest you should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it even scarier.

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Speaker 2: It does. It's like a reminder that nowhere is truly safe.

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Speaker 2: Danger can be lurking anywhere, even in your.

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Speaker 1: Own home, even in your own home. So it's a

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reminder to be cautious.

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Speaker 2: Yes, to trust our instincts, trust your gut, yeah, and

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to never assume we're completely invulnerable, even in our own homes.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: It was a little intense.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need something a little more lighthearted. Okay, even

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if it's still creepy. Right, let's hear what about the

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bunny Man.

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Speaker 1: The bunny Man, even.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of funny, yeah, but also creepy.

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costume who terrorizes people near a bridge in Virginia. So

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of a man in a bunny suit throwing axes at cards.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But over time the story has been embellished and exaggerated,

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turning this prankster into a full blown urban legend.

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Speaker 1: So it's like a real life example of how these

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stories evolve, Yes, and take on a life of their own.

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Speaker 2: They do. It's like our imaginations take over, right and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to make things scarier than they actually are.

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Speaker 2: We do at times. And the fact that the bunny

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makes it even creepier.

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Speaker 1: It does. Yeah, like makes you think twice about driving

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Okay, So maybe that wasn't as lighthearted as I hoped.

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Speaker 1: It definitely showcases how quickly a story can transform from

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a simple prink right into this bone chilling legend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating, right all right. So let's shift gears

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now to a phenomenon that's particularly unsettling.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Black eyed children.

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Speaker 2: Woh, black eyed children.

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Speaker 1: Those are creepy, so creepy. They tap into our primal

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fear of the unknown.

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Speaker 2: It's that unsettling feeling of encountering something that looks human

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but is fundamentally off.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's the eyes. The eyes, they're the most

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disturbing part, like looking into a void, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: A complete absence of emotion or humanity. And the stories

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which adds to the creepiness. Why is that, Well,

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because it's like they're invading your space, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to get into your.

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Speaker 1: Safe space exactly, Like they're testing your boundaries, right, you know,

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they're probing for weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get access to something we hold dear right.

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Speaker 1: And I think what makes it even creepier is that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who we associate with innocence exactly and vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so to see a child with black eyes.

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Speaker 2: It's just wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's just not right, It's not right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like something pure and innovent twisted into something sinister.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's definitely crapy. So speaking of things that blur

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the lines between reality and fiction, Okay, what about Sledderman

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slender Man? Oh, yes, he's like a perfect example of

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how the inner has become this breeding ground for new

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Speaker 1: Right because he started online, he did like he's a

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product of the Internet, but then he kind of crossed

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Speaker 2: He did, and in a really chilling way.

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Speaker 1: In a very chilling way, Like he became real he did.

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Speaker 2: And he's been linked to some real life crimes.

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Speaker 1: Too, he has, which makes it even scarier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes the whole thing that much more disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's like he stepped out of the digital world and

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own into our own, Yeah, becoming this tangible manifestation of

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our online fears.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's the way he's depicted to, you know,

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like always lurking in the background. Yeah, just out of sight, Yeah,

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just out of sight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's always watching.

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Speaker 1: He's always watching.

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Speaker 2: Always present, even when we don't realize it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like Big Brother is, but like a scary version.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the scary version of Big Brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He embodies those unseen dangers of the internet, right, the

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potential for like manipulation, isolation, and even violence. Yeah, that's

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lurking beneath the surface of what we perceive as safe and.

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Speaker 1: Connected, right, because the internet can be a very dangerous place.

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Speaker 2: It could be a very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Place, even though it seems very safe.

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Speaker 2: It does seem safe. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a cautionary

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tale for the digital age. It is reminding us that

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even in this vast online world, Yeah, darkness can find us.

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It can, and the lines between fantasy and reality can

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become very dangerously blurred.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I think we've covered some serious ground here.

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We have. We've gone from vengeful spirits to bloodthirsty cryptids. Yeah,

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from the depths of folklore to the digital realm of

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the Internet.

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Speaker 1: It's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 2: It's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that unites all of these legends, yeah,

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is their ability to tap into our deepest fears, our

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anxieties that linger in the back of our minds.

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Speaker 1: Right. It's like they're holding up a mirror, yes, to

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our inner darkness.

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Speaker 2: To all the stuff we try to repress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it always comes out eventually.

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Speaker 2: It always comes out, doesn't it. It does. Yeah. But

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you know what, these stories can be scary, they can be,

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but they also serve a purpose beyond just frightening us.

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Speaker 1: Right. They're not just meant to keep us up at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They make us think, They make us question, They

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make us explore the darker side of our imaginations.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point, Like they're a

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way for us to kind of grapple with the unknown

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totally in a safe space. Yeah, you know, like you

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can be scared, but you're also safe at the same time.

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And I think by sharing these stories and by keeping

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them alive, we're keeping up part of ourselves alive too.

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Speaker 2: Which part is that, Like.

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Speaker 1: The part that's curious and imaginative and willing to believe

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in the impossible.

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Speaker 2: I love that. It's like we're all tapping into this

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collective unconscious right and exploring those anxieties and fascinations that

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bind us together as humans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing how these urban legends have kind

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of evolve along with the way that we communicate. I mean,

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think about it. Back in the day, these stories were

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spread through whispers and campfire tales, and they were passed

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down through generations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, word of.

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Speaker 1: Mouth exactly, it's how it works. But now with the

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Internet and social media, these stories can spread like wildfire,

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you know, reaching a global audience.

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Speaker 2: In seconds, literally seconds.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. And not only that, but technology itself has

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become a source of new legends totally. Yeah, I mean

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we saw it with slender Man, right, we did a

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figure who was born from the internet and then crossed

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over into the real world with some very real.

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Speaker 2: Consequences and chilling consequences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very chilling. So it really makes you think about

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how technology is shaping our fears and our.

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Speaker 2: Beliefs totally, because like we've gone from sharing spooky stories

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around a flickering campfire to encountering the these hyper realistic

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images and videos online exactly. Like sometimes it's hard to

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even tell what's real anymore, it is, you know what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you wonder how technology is going to

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continue to influence these stories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the future, how are these stories going to evolve?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's a really fascinating question, it is. But

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I think one thing that's important to remember is that

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while urban legends can be scary, yeah, they also serve

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a purpose, right beyond just frightening us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're not just meant to keep us up at

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night exactly.

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Speaker 1: They make us think, they make us question, yeah, and

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they make us explore that darker side of our imagination.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, like They're a way for us to

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kind of grapple with the unknown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a safe space. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can be scared, but you're also safe

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at the same time. And I think by sharing these

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stories and by keeping them alive, we're keeping a part

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of ourselves alive too.

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Speaker 2: I like that, you know, yeah, what part like that

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part of.

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Speaker 1: Us that's curious and imaginative. Yeah, and willing to believe

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in the impossible.

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Speaker 2: That. Yeah, it's like we're all tapping into this collective

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unconscious raise. Yeah, and we're exploring those anxieties and fascinations.

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Yeah that bind us together as humans.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

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Speaker 2: It is pretty cool. It is so to everyone listening

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out there. Keep an open mind, yeah, have a healthy

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dose of skepticism.

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Speaker 1: Always question. Yeah, but also also keep that sense.

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Speaker 2: Of wondering, that sense of wonder exactly.

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Speaker 1: And remember sometimes the scariest stories are the ones that

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we tell ourselves.

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Speaker 2: That's very true.

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Speaker 1: That is some seriously good advice.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the

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world of urban legends.

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. We'll have to do it again sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: Sweet dreams everyone, and don't forget to check under your

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bed tonight, just in case.