WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.280 --> 00:02:35.400 At the blue bopop Google doop google. 2 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:39.800 B b b b b b. 3 00:05:31.360 --> 00:06:48.199 Kayap, that's the. 4 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:50.720 First a. 5 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:18.920 Kind of thing. 6 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:58.080 Ah yeah, all right, let's fade that music to background. 7 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:05.919 Welcome everybody. I thought, given how wild things have been 8 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:11.159 in the last week, especially a couple weeks with scandals 9 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.639 in Rome, and yeah, I'm getting tired of talking about 10 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.320 the papacy in Roman Catholicism, but it seems like it's 11 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.399 hard to move on to other subjects when we get 12 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:33.080 these pretty insane levels of the next day, it's almost 13 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.240 the daily scandal. It's not like every week it's like 14 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.399 what did Francis? What did Leo? What did whoever? 15 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:40.279 Do? 16 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.840 Today? So I thought it'd be a perfect time to 17 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.679 go back into some of the literature and some of 18 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.200 the evidence and some of the proofs that we've shown 19 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.159 for many years. But some of those streams are four 20 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:59.559 or five six years old, pertaining to the means by 21 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:08.039 which the actual intrigue, the historical evidence and proof and 22 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:14.120 documentation from multiple Roman Catholic scholars and historians, not orthodox 23 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:20.200 conspiracy theorists, but Roman Catholic historians. All right, this song 24 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.600 was gonna my nerves. I'm all for some of this 25 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:30.559 sixties spy chic. That horn is a little mutch dude, 26 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:39.960 cryptic shadows. That's what I'm talking about. The question is, then, 27 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:46.000 how did this occur? When did it occur? What led 28 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:51.559 to where we are? Yeah? I agree. I actually reached 29 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.840 out to the Tucker producers and I was like, look, 30 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.519 I'm sure the dude you had on talking about cabal 31 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.480 or whatever is a nice guy. I was like, but dog, 32 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:08.320 I can bring the heat, I can bring the souths. 33 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:19.519 I'm your man, a dog, I'm the man. Anyway, I 34 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.480 am pretty tired. I'm stacked up on coffee. As you 35 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.240 guys know, the greatest assetic endeavor for me is to 36 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.080 wake up for church, because I don't like to wake up. 37 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:34.320 I have not, nor have I ever been a morning person, 38 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:40.840 nor shall I ever be a morning person. And uh, 39 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.159 morning people couldn't go to Huck as far as I'm concerned. 40 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:55.399 I'm just kidding, you could go to hook Gosh, what 41 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.279 about Joe Rogan? Yeah, I mean just keep saying the 42 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:01.840 way to get me on these podcasts is for you 43 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.840 guys to make a stink and ended up working for 44 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.399 a crowder, so I'll be I don't know if I'm 45 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:12.120 talking to Crowder or just to Gerald. I mean, I'm 46 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:18.000 fine either way. But yeah, I went to the church 47 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:19.600 that I don't go to that you never seen yet. 48 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:24.919 So it seems like as you get older, waking up 49 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:30.519 early is not easier. I mean, it sucked when I 50 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.320 was working a nine to five, you know, so hard 51 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.759 to get up early. But I don't know, it seemed 52 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.639 like it was easier because like, when you're nineteen, you 53 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.159 can drink all night, you know, go to sleep at 54 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.679 three in the morning and wake up at seven for work. 55 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:53.559 So but when you're thirty like me and no longer twenty. 56 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:02.320 I heard that Tucker interview fell flat some pop I 57 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.039 got that pop music illuminati stuff that I could bring 58 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:11.879 out some of that classic illuminate confirm. I feel like 59 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.399 people are just now ripe for all this information. Anyway, 60 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.639 we're going to talk about a little bit of history, 61 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.679 and then we're gonna get into some of the intrigue 62 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:28.200 and espionage from all this big stack of scholarly books 63 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:34.080 that I have next to me that prove the surprisingly 64 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:39.360 contentious idea that the state wants to utilize and subvert 65 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.879 and control the church. What never heard of this? But 66 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.639 even though it's happened many, many times in Church history. 67 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:51.279 If you mentioned this, why what an insane conspiracy theory. 68 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.600 You're an insane person to think that the State Department 69 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.759 or the CIA, or any of these intelligence agencies will 70 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:02.240 want anything to do with influencing the OCA or the 71 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:06.799 Greek Orthodox Archidiosi or Rome. Why would you even? This 72 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:11.720 is just crazy? And yet here we are in the 73 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.720 era of infinity information at our fingertips, and all of 74 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:25.519 this is now beyond the pale of I mean, it's beyond. 75 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:29.080 It's like, it's not just proven, it's like shouldn't even 76 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:34.960 be controversial anymore. However, this very idea itself would actually 77 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:40.600 cause many people in the Church, many prelates, to treat 78 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:46.399 you as an evil Ortho bro. Even though even though 79 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:52.360 there's declassified documents the doctrinal warfare program declassified I think 80 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:58.559 in twenty thirteen admitting this very fact, even though all 81 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:04.720 the Orthodox people know about the Soviets installing in KVD bishops, 82 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.879 even though we know all this, Oh that's crazy, it 83 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:16.480 didn't exist. What now, it's not just intelligence operatives using 84 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:22.919 missionary work or being a minister as cover. We have 85 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.120 to go a little bit higher up on the food 86 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:30.000 chain and look at think tanks and foundations and NGOs 87 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.639 that have a huge influence in the religious world. So 88 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.159 we're going to be looking at some of that material. 89 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.960 We will also, though, be looking at the espionage side 90 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.840 of things, and that would be you know, things like 91 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.720 even the massage relationship to the Vatican. Did you know 92 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.759 there is a relationship there. You know, it's covered in 93 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:54.399 Gordon Thomas's book Gideon Spies, or the longtime CA relationship 94 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:59.000 with the Vatican, especially going back to William Colby in 95 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:06.120 the Cold War in prior to that, James Jesus Angleton 96 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:10.679 being at the Rome Desk of the CIA prior to Colby. 97 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:13.799 So we're going to get into a lot of that 98 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.320 again to kind of refresh you guys. And all of 99 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:22.799 these will be sourced in mainline, scholarly and academic texts. 100 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.480 As I look over here, I don't see any of these. 101 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:31.879 None of these texts are conspiracy texts. So it will 102 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:36.000 all be sourced. I will for the seventh or eighth 103 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:39.720 year now remind you which books to get, especially the 104 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.679 whim Hoff book, which I've been telling everybody to get 105 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.639 for seven or eight years. I have to think though, 106 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.039 And let's take another example of that, no one's actually 107 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.240 reading any of these books. I feel like no one 108 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.960 is actually reading these books, and so I say these 109 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:59.919 things after twenty years of reading these books, and people 110 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.679 laugh and they giggle and they don't but they've never 111 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:05.799 read any of these books. They haven't read one fourth 112 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:07.880 of the books that I've read on these subjects. But 113 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.400 they know that I'm wrong, and it's much easier to 114 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:18.200 just say hahaha, evil worth overro. So let's start by 115 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.799 pointing out, yeah, exactly, that's why I do your homework 116 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:27.839 for you, guys. Thanks again to our friend in the 117 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.799 audience who sent us this very rare, very expensive I 118 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.880 don't think it's actually worth over two thousand dollars, but 119 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.279 it goes on Amazon for two thousand dollars. The hard 120 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:42.680 bat changing images of Man. Look at that goes for 121 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:48.000 two thousand dollars plus. It's tempting to tell it and 122 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:50.480 get big coin, bit of course it's not. No one 123 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:52.960 is going to pay two thousand dollars just because here's 124 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:59.200 a funny thing. I opened it up, and in the 125 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.839 entire exist of this book from nineteen eighty two until now, 126 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:09.960 when this university library. I guess discarded. And if you 127 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:11.920 don't know, in libraries, when a book gets old, they'll 128 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:13.839 just stamp it with discarded and then throw it out. 129 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.240 They don't even realize that this goes for two thousand dollars, 130 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:18.319 although no one will ever buy a two thousand dollars 131 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:23.240 Changing Images of Man book in from nineteen eighty two 132 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:27.839 until now, how many times do you think someone checked 133 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:34.880 out this very crucial, key global elite text. I want 134 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.440 you guys to guess how many people Now this is, 135 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:42.720 of course a Stanford Research Institute global elitist text that 136 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:47.960 was actually a textbook for it looks like grad school. 137 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.799 So this was an international relations, systems science and systems 138 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.519 analysis textbook. It says at the beginning it was a textbook, 139 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.359 so I'm assuming it means for high level international relations 140 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:05.759 or sociology. Most of you say three or two. You 141 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:10.519 are correct. It is two. In the decades of existence, 142 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.480 two people checked out Changing Images of Man in that 143 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:22.119 entire time, two two people. Now, before I owned my 144 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.039 own copy of Tragedy and Hope, my university library had 145 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.359 a copy of Tragedy and Hope, I checked it out. 146 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.440 Guess how many people before me had checked out Tragedy 147 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:43.200 and Hope two. So even in the university sphere, no 148 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:47.400 one is checking out these books. Seventeen, it wasn't seventeen. 149 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:51.200 That was like three counting me. And by the way, 150 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.920 I am about forty pages in and it's going to 151 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.920 be a good one. This music is a little watch man. 152 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.599 It is not exactly what I expected, because I read 153 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.039 a little bit of this ten years ago, you know, 154 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.799 with the PDF when I first heard about it online, 155 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.519 and I was like, this looks like it will be interesting. 156 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.839 But now that I'm about forty pages in, it's it 157 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.519 is not what I expected it to be. It's a 158 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:33.720 little more focused on perennialism and mystical philosophy than I expected. 159 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:36.480 Now it may go off in other directions, but that 160 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:38.599 isn't what I really expected this to be about. In 161 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:42.559 the first forty or fifty pages, I mean, it mentions 162 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.119 actual members of perennial philosophy. It mentions, you know, Alvis 163 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.680 Huxley's perennial philosophy. It mentions a Queeran conspiracy. It mentions 164 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:56.519 the wholeons Idea from Freed, the of Copra, and from 165 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.960 Ghost of the Machine, all of which are key global 166 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.480 elite texts that we have covered over the years. So 167 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:08.519 it's going to be a very fascinating analysis and it 168 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:12.799 will be another one of these great example texts that 169 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:17.079 show the future is planned and the future is steered, 170 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.200 and it's planned and steered. In regard to what this 171 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.279 book is talking about through high level academia, the majority 172 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:32.839 of this book is focusing on indoctrinating the intelligencia class, 173 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:35.519 the people that are getting their PhDs in you know, 174 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:44.359 systems analysis, international relations, social sciences. It's from a high 175 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:49.599 tier academic press, Pergamon Press. We have people like Willis Harmon, 176 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.880 Joseph Campbell our key figures in this as well as 177 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:59.559 Willis Harmon from orscuse me, I want to say Croyl 178 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.319 youngkom Up as well. At some point Ernest Laslow is 179 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:12.359 also important here. So what we get when we look 180 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.359 at books like this, you say, I don't care about this. 181 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.759 Why should I care what some old textbook has in it? 182 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:21.440 Why do you do this? This is the textbook that 183 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:29.079 indoctrinated the high level elite boomers that rule today. So 184 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.759 you understand that boomers that we're getting their PhD back 185 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:38.359 in the early eighties are really the ones running things now, 186 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.759 even though they're beginning to get older and sort of 187 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:44.519 retire and whatnot. This is the kind of textbook that 188 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.960 they would be reading, right, people studying at the Kissinger 189 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.160 Chair or something like that to have the next place 190 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:57.720 after Kissinger in the establishment. And there actually is such 191 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.440 thing as a Kissinger chair. I think it's a University 192 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.880 of Chicago or somewhere. But so you know, this is 193 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.359 up there with between two ages by Brazenski. It's that 194 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:13.200 kind of a book. Patriarch Mark says that Pergramat Press 195 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.319 was actually a Robert Maxwell. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah, 196 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.480 so what McMillan Publishers or whatever it was that was 197 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.400 owned by it, says Maxwell House. So you're right, it 198 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:32.759 says Pergamont Press, Maxwell House, New York, exactly right. And 199 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.279 I think what's interesting is the very first quote of 200 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.640 the book is from Uthont, who was the Secretary General 201 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.440 of the United Nations, and he says the very beginning 202 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.319 that the entire purpose of this book, or assume me 203 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.279 that the entire purpose of the United Nations and everything 204 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.200 we're all about is global government and depopulation. That's it says, 205 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:59.200 we have these goals global partnership, global disarmament, and disarmament 206 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.640 doesn't just mean nukes and the government. It means you 207 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:10.079 also not having self defense. It means fabian socialism and 208 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.680 mass depopulation in whatever ways, in whatever forms. That's what 209 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.319 it means. Man. And remember, population control is not just 210 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:24.319 sterilization in babies. That's part of it. Population control also 211 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:29.720 means literal control of the population. Hence why already within 212 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.599 the first forty pages of this book there were multiple 213 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:40.359 mentions of the coming socialist technocracy electrodes implants, microchips, and 214 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:46.400 techniques and strategies for depopulation, so all at the very beginning. 215 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.680 And the other thing that I didn't expect early on 216 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.559 was that they actually highlight how important religion will be. 217 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.480 Particularly what they're talking about in nineteen eighty two seems 218 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.559 to be something akin to New Age and Far Eastern 219 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:03.440 religious concepts, So the continuation of the sixties counterculture New 220 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:09.039 Age movement further being funded and foisted into the public 221 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:14.720 sphere to train people into things like being dinks, being neotonous, 222 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.920 being arrested, development, etc. It actually says this in order 223 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:25.160 that the population growth be curved. They also cite Jonah 224 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:28.000 Salk Survival The Wisest, which I've lectured through that entire 225 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.720 book as well. So all of the Global Elite texts 226 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.559 I noticed, well, we've got already like ten of them 227 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.039 cited in the very first forty pages of Changing Images 228 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:39.799 a Man. So it's going to be a great one. 229 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:41.359 It's going to be a classic, I think, in the 230 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.000 Global Elite series, and I'm so glad to have a 231 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.519 hard copy version of it to actually finally get into. 232 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.240 All Right, but that's not what we're talking about today. 233 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:57.319 I just want to give you us an update with 234 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.200 the first forty page of Changing Images of Man, one 235 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.079 of the classic globally texts that we just didn't get 236 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:10.039 to until in Divine Providence I was given a hard copy. 237 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:12.880 So again, thank you to the guy who sent that. 238 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:17.640 Shout out to that dude. All Right, so we're going 239 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.240 to get back into some of the classics about the 240 00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.920 Vatican and the geopolitical side of things that we've covered many, 241 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.359 many times. But as we say, it has been many years. 242 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:31.599 I want to remind you that the course that the 243 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.480 Vatican took, you can't isolate this to the twentieth century 244 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.880 or to the liberalism of the time. Of Gregory the 245 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.319 sixteenth and marari Vas or any of these papal texts. 246 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:47.000 The liberalism from the Orthodox perspective actually goes back to 247 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.359 the papacy being the original Protestantism. And the reason that 248 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.960 we say the papacy is the original Protestantism is because 249 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:59.880 the church abandoned in Rome, abandoned the earlier sonodal collegials 250 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:04.480 structure that Rome now admits was the structure of the 251 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.839 Church of the first thousand years. If you read the 252 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.359 Chi eighty document, as you've heard us point out many times, 253 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.799 which is a Vatican approved document on the Eastern model 254 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.599 of the Church, it admits that the Bishop of Rome 255 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:20.319 did not have unilateral universal jurisdiction in the first millennium. 256 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.960 That's a massive admission that Orthodox have complained about and 257 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.640 critiqued for a millennium. So what happened though when Rome 258 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:36.440 went in this direction, Well, it sort of necessarily fell 259 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.559 into a kind of geopolitical world power structure. And it's 260 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.400 not just the greed of the popes or something like 261 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.920 that that led to that. That's part of it. But 262 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.559 we also have to understand that there were historical factors 263 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:54.000 the fall of Rome to the barbarians in four hundred 264 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:59.359 and four to ten, the rise of the prominence of 265 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:01.359 the Bishop of Rome to also be a kind of 266 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:05.160 a cultural hegemony at the time, the rise of the 267 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.400 papal states, the rise of these things which contributed to 268 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:15.559 the ever growing worldly geopolitical prestige of the Bishop of Rome. Now, 269 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.799 from the Orthodox perspective, we didn't suddenly decide to just 270 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.880 break communion in ten fifty four or whenever, just willy nilly. 271 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.880 From our vantage point, the papacy, after many, many centuries, 272 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:36.240 and I'll use the Gavin Ortland term, began to have 273 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:41.240 accretions when it came to their own view of themselves. 274 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.480 So what was originally from our perspective, you see this 275 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.759 in the Canons of Nicea, for example, Canon six a 276 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.000 first among equals relationship, or in the Canons of Sartika, 277 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.799 for example, a first among equals with an appleate structure 278 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.559 where you could ask for a retrial, none of which 279 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:04.119 is the vat one model of a unilateral autocratic Roma. 280 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.799 Spoken cases closed, right, So maybe I need to remind 281 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.480 you all again of this because this always gets forgotten 282 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.640 and Roman Catholics just do not read their documents. They 283 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.160 just assume what Roman Catholic dogmatic theology is from whatever gibbering, 284 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.440 yapping pap apologists they hear on the internet and they 285 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.599 repeat it like a bunch of minor birds and chirping goobers, 286 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.079 when in fact it says very clearly in their own 287 00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:36.680 documents that appeals in the appellate structure, this is the 288 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.000 Canons of Sartica that they like to appeal to, was 289 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:46.759 not a unilateral Bishop of Rome decides what's right. In fact, 290 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.200 the appellate structure allowed for the Bishop of Rome to, 291 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.119 if he deemed it appropriate, order a retrial to be 292 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.759 conducted in Rome. No, no, no, in that bishop's province. 293 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.920 So you see this is nothing like the claims of 294 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.279 the vatican I apologists. And that's why you'll see me 295 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.359 referring to the documents that the Roman Catholics never refer to. 296 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.039 They don't go to their documents. They give you this spill, 297 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.519 this bad car salesman pitch, but they don't go to 298 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.359 their documents. You'll notice there that it's not just Rome 299 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.920 that had an appleate structure. You could actually appeal to 300 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.200 other seas as well that were important, such as Constantinople. 301 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.599 See that right there. Appeals regarding disciplinary matters were also 302 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.480 made to Constantinople and to other seas, so it wasn't 303 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:42.400 even a unilateral only to Rome thing. They were always 304 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:53.440 treated in a whatnodal way, not unilateral autocratic way. And 305 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.759 what's the last line. The Bishop of Rome did not 306 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.319 exercise canonical authority over the churches of the East in 307 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:07.000 the first mining. That is contrary to all of Vatican 308 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:14.880 one's claims. So from our perspective, what happens is that 309 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.559 Rome doesn't overnight go bad. It wasn't there from the beginning. 310 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:25.160 Over many centuries, the Roman Sea's view of itself grew 311 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.720 into a position that was eventually untenable by the East. 312 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.400 That's our position. Now, another really well done introductory book 313 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.559 on this is Two Paths by Michael Welton. But if 314 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:46.000 you go to the chapter that most concerns us today, 315 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:51.240 and this is chapter five, you'll note that Michael Welton's 316 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.680 chapter five is about the Gregorian Revolution and the deeper 317 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.680 that you go into the Gregorian Revolution in this period. 318 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.240 I read several books just on this period. This is 319 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.119 not me just picking this. I'm telling you that this 320 00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.000 is an orthodox book that is summarizing what you will 321 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.119 find in the academic literature, and even Roman Catholic academic 322 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.400 literature from Dvornik or Kongar basically admits most of these points. Now, 323 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.519 in the eleventh century, in what's called called the Gregorian 324 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:32.079 Reform or the if you're Orthodox, the Gregorian Revolution, the 325 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:40.559 papacy took on openly, massive, explicit geopolitical world power. Now, 326 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.640 keep in mind in the Canons of Chalcedon, it is 327 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.640 forbidden for clerics to also have a role in the 328 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.799 civil state. And I have to talk very slow because 329 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.799 every time I talked to Roman Catholics about this and 330 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.240 we just got they cannot understand this. When I talk 331 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.519 about Unham sanctum, they get lost. They don't understand what 332 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.559 it is I'm saying. So I'm going to be very clear. 333 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:07.839 Hopefully this is where it becomes a geopolitical secular power. 334 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.559 So let's take the two powers model, church and state. 335 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.000 The state pertains to the things of the body, to 336 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.160 this life, to justice, to the death penalty, to war, 337 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.680 et cetera. The church deals with things of the spirit, 338 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.480 the soul, the inn man. Right, So there's a body 339 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.359 soul relationship that's often used of the two powers idea, 340 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.279 the temporal earthly power and the spiritual heavenly power. Due 341 00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:37.359 to the papal forgeries in part and the claims of 342 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:43.440 the Gregorian papacy, the argument began to be made that, 343 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.400 especially in Dictatus pope As you know, because the Pope 344 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.319 is the head of the Church, that makes him also 345 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.559 the head of the temporal bodily world as well. So 346 00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:01.119 he's the head of both church and state. And thus 347 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.960 you must confess this doctrine of the Pope being also 348 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:11.199 a world leader, a geopolitical world power to be saved. 349 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:18.000 That is Unum sanctum. And the last paragraph of Unam 350 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:23.719 Sanctum is about this issue. Not only must you confess 351 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.800 the pope as the head of the spiritual power, you 352 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.480 must also confess the pope as the head of all 353 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.199 kings and emperors and a world emperor power to be saved. 354 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.960 And if you don't, you are not in convenient with 355 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.880 the Roman pontiff, and you cannot be saved. Clear as 356 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:52.159 day now, Unam Sanctum is written by Boniface the Eighth 357 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.480 in thirteen oh two, so this is actually a few 358 00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:02.519 centuries after Dictatus pope h, which says essentially the same 359 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:10.039 thing in what year is dictats Poppa? Let's see. 360 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:12.960 Mh. 361 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:42.000 This is really annoying because this used to always come 362 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.760 up first, and now it doesn't come. 363 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:44.639 Up when I want it. 364 00:35:44.960 --> 00:36:01.440 It's just really annoying. Any this is it ten ninety Okay? 365 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.199 So between ten ninety when this is first stated as 366 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:10.119 far as we know in the Papal registry, and then 367 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:19.920 explicitly formulated and mandated by thirteen oh two, it's made 368 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:27.559 abundantly clear that this is necessary for salvation. And remember, 369 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.079 as we've shown in the debates and in the recent videos, 370 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.639 this is repeated all the way up into the Syllabus 371 00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:40.360 of Errors and the Vatican one Pious, the Ninth Documents, 372 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.719 they repeat that you also still have to believe in 373 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.159 the temporal supremacy of the Roman Bishop to be saved. 374 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.920 It cannot go away. It's not a flexible doctrine. Now 375 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.599 post Vatican two, this has all been explicitly discarded. In fact, 376 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:58.320 the papacy has worked to decatholicize Christian states and everybody 377 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.400 knows about this. Even Benedicted participated in this. So you 378 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.800 essentially have the rejection of the medieval doctrine, the medieval 379 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.280 Latin papal doctrine of the temporal supremacy of the Roman bishop. 380 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.880 But what also happens during this period that are going 381 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.280 reforms that most people are not aware of unless you've 382 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.039 read this history, is that you have one hundred and 383 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:24.320 sixty four years of Germanic control of the papacy, including 384 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.679 twenty one of twenty five popes during this century or 385 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:36.760 two centuries, almost appointed by the German crown. Did you 386 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:43.239 hear that? So it's preposterous and dishonest when Roman Catholics 387 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.800 treat Orthodox as subservient to the state, where Cesero papists, 388 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.000 where Erastians, no, no, no, You had almost two centuries 389 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.679 where literally German kings appointed twenty one of the twenty 390 00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:04.360 five popes. The ninth is the first pope to openly 391 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:10.519 go into warfare, into battle, the first pope to personally 392 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.559 go to war, to call for a standing army to 393 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:21.000 go to war to be conducted against the Normans, ending 394 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.719 in his ending a disaster with him being taken prisoner. 395 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:32.800 The spectacle of priests, bishops, monks, all bearing arms and swords, 396 00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:38.000 shedding blood came as a shock to the Byzantines because 397 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.480 the Byzantines understood that that's not the role of the church, 398 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.760 that's the role of the state. The Christian state has 399 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:49.000 that significance in that that's the two headed eagle, and 400 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:53.840 now we have the church side of the two headed 401 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.199