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Welcome everybody. I thought, given how wild things have been
in the last week, especially a couple weeks with scandals
in Rome, and yeah, I'm getting tired of talking about
the papacy in Roman Catholicism, but it seems like it's
hard to move on to other subjects when we get
these pretty insane levels of the next day, it's almost
the daily scandal. It's not like every week it's like
what did Francis? What did Leo? What did whoever?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 4: Today? So I thought it'd be a perfect time to
go back into some of the literature and some of
the evidence and some of the proofs that we've shown
for many years. But some of those streams are four
or five six years old, pertaining to the means by
which the actual intrigue, the historical evidence and proof and
documentation from multiple Roman Catholic scholars and historians, not orthodox
conspiracy theorists, but Roman Catholic historians. All right, this song
was gonna my nerves. I'm all for some of this
sixties spy chic. That horn is a little mutch dude,
cryptic shadows. That's what I'm talking about. The question is, then,
how did this occur? When did it occur? What led
to where we are? Yeah? I agree. I actually reached
out to the Tucker producers and I was like, look,
I'm sure the dude you had on talking about cabal
or whatever is a nice guy. I was like, but dog,
I can bring the heat, I can bring the souths.
I'm your man, a dog, I'm the man. Anyway, I
am pretty tired. I'm stacked up on coffee. As you
guys know, the greatest assetic endeavor for me is to
wake up for church, because I don't like to wake up.
I have not, nor have I ever been a morning person,
nor shall I ever be a morning person. And uh,
morning people couldn't go to Huck as far as I'm concerned.
I'm just kidding, you could go to hook Gosh, what
about Joe Rogan? Yeah, I mean just keep saying the
way to get me on these podcasts is for you
guys to make a stink and ended up working for
a crowder, so I'll be I don't know if I'm
talking to Crowder or just to Gerald. I mean, I'm
fine either way. But yeah, I went to the church
that I don't go to that you never seen yet.
So it seems like as you get older, waking up
early is not easier. I mean, it sucked when I
was working a nine to five, you know, so hard
to get up early. But I don't know, it seemed
like it was easier because like, when you're nineteen, you
can drink all night, you know, go to sleep at
three in the morning and wake up at seven for work.
So but when you're thirty like me and no longer twenty.
I heard that Tucker interview fell flat some pop I
got that pop music illuminati stuff that I could bring
out some of that classic illuminate confirm. I feel like
people are just now ripe for all this information. Anyway,
we're going to talk about a little bit of history,
and then we're gonna get into some of the intrigue
and espionage from all this big stack of scholarly books
that I have next to me that prove the surprisingly
contentious idea that the state wants to utilize and subvert
and control the church. What never heard of this? But
even though it's happened many, many times in Church history.
If you mentioned this, why what an insane conspiracy theory.
You're an insane person to think that the State Department
or the CIA, or any of these intelligence agencies will
want anything to do with influencing the OCA or the
Greek Orthodox Archidiosi or Rome. Why would you even? This
is just crazy? And yet here we are in the
era of infinity information at our fingertips, and all of
this is now beyond the pale of I mean, it's beyond.
It's like, it's not just proven, it's like shouldn't even
be controversial anymore. However, this very idea itself would actually
cause many people in the Church, many prelates, to treat
you as an evil Ortho bro. Even though even though
there's declassified documents the doctrinal warfare program declassified I think
in twenty thirteen admitting this very fact, even though all
the Orthodox people know about the Soviets installing in KVD bishops,
even though we know all this, Oh that's crazy, it
didn't exist. What now, it's not just intelligence operatives using
missionary work or being a minister as cover. We have
to go a little bit higher up on the food
chain and look at think tanks and foundations and NGOs
that have a huge influence in the religious world. So
we're going to be looking at some of that material.
We will also, though, be looking at the espionage side
of things, and that would be you know, things like
even the massage relationship to the Vatican. Did you know
there is a relationship there. You know, it's covered in
Gordon Thomas's book Gideon Spies, or the longtime CA relationship
with the Vatican, especially going back to William Colby in
the Cold War in prior to that, James Jesus Angleton
being at the Rome Desk of the CIA prior to Colby.
So we're going to get into a lot of that
again to kind of refresh you guys. And all of
these will be sourced in mainline, scholarly and academic texts.
As I look over here, I don't see any of these.
None of these texts are conspiracy texts. So it will
all be sourced. I will for the seventh or eighth
year now remind you which books to get, especially the
whim Hoff book, which I've been telling everybody to get
for seven or eight years. I have to think though,
And let's take another example of that, no one's actually
reading any of these books. I feel like no one
is actually reading these books, and so I say these
things after twenty years of reading these books, and people
laugh and they giggle and they don't but they've never
read any of these books. They haven't read one fourth
of the books that I've read on these subjects. But
they know that I'm wrong, and it's much easier to
just say hahaha, evil worth overro. So let's start by
pointing out, yeah, exactly, that's why I do your homework
for you, guys. Thanks again to our friend in the
audience who sent us this very rare, very expensive I
don't think it's actually worth over two thousand dollars, but
it goes on Amazon for two thousand dollars. The hard
bat changing images of Man. Look at that goes for
two thousand dollars plus. It's tempting to tell it and
get big coin, bit of course it's not. No one
is going to pay two thousand dollars just because here's
a funny thing. I opened it up, and in the
entire exist of this book from nineteen eighty two until now,
when this university library. I guess discarded. And if you
don't know, in libraries, when a book gets old, they'll
just stamp it with discarded and then throw it out.
They don't even realize that this goes for two thousand dollars,
although no one will ever buy a two thousand dollars
Changing Images of Man book in from nineteen eighty two
until now, how many times do you think someone checked
out this very crucial, key global elite text. I want
you guys to guess how many people Now this is,
of course a Stanford Research Institute global elitist text that
was actually a textbook for it looks like grad school.
So this was an international relations, systems science and systems
analysis textbook. It says at the beginning it was a textbook,
so I'm assuming it means for high level international relations
or sociology. Most of you say three or two. You
are correct. It is two. In the decades of existence,
two people checked out Changing Images of Man in that
entire time, two two people. Now, before I owned my
own copy of Tragedy and Hope, my university library had
a copy of Tragedy and Hope, I checked it out.
Guess how many people before me had checked out Tragedy
and Hope two. So even in the university sphere, no
one is checking out these books. Seventeen, it wasn't seventeen.
That was like three counting me. And by the way,
I am about forty pages in and it's going to
be a good one. This music is a little watch man.
It is not exactly what I expected, because I read
a little bit of this ten years ago, you know,
with the PDF when I first heard about it online,
and I was like, this looks like it will be interesting.
But now that I'm about forty pages in, it's it
is not what I expected it to be. It's a
little more focused on perennialism and mystical philosophy than I expected.
Now it may go off in other directions, but that
isn't what I really expected this to be about. In
the first forty or fifty pages, I mean, it mentions
actual members of perennial philosophy. It mentions, you know, Alvis
Huxley's perennial philosophy. It mentions a Queeran conspiracy. It mentions
the wholeons Idea from Freed, the of Copra, and from
Ghost of the Machine, all of which are key global
elite texts that we have covered over the years. So
it's going to be a very fascinating analysis and it
will be another one of these great example texts that
show the future is planned and the future is steered,
and it's planned and steered. In regard to what this
book is talking about through high level academia, the majority
of this book is focusing on indoctrinating the intelligencia class,
the people that are getting their PhDs in you know,
systems analysis, international relations, social sciences. It's from a high
tier academic press, Pergamon Press. We have people like Willis Harmon,
Joseph Campbell our key figures in this as well as
Willis Harmon from orscuse me, I want to say Croyl
youngkom Up as well. At some point Ernest Laslow is
also important here. So what we get when we look
at books like this, you say, I don't care about this.
Why should I care what some old textbook has in it?
Why do you do this? This is the textbook that
indoctrinated the high level elite boomers that rule today. So
you understand that boomers that we're getting their PhD back
in the early eighties are really the ones running things now,
even though they're beginning to get older and sort of
retire and whatnot. This is the kind of textbook that
they would be reading, right, people studying at the Kissinger
Chair or something like that to have the next place
after Kissinger in the establishment. And there actually is such
thing as a Kissinger chair. I think it's a University
of Chicago or somewhere. But so you know, this is
up there with between two ages by Brazenski. It's that
kind of a book. Patriarch Mark says that Pergramat Press
was actually a Robert Maxwell. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah,
so what McMillan Publishers or whatever it was that was
owned by it, says Maxwell House. So you're right, it
says Pergamont Press, Maxwell House, New York, exactly right. And
I think what's interesting is the very first quote of
the book is from Uthont, who was the Secretary General
of the United Nations, and he says the very beginning
that the entire purpose of this book, or assume me
that the entire purpose of the United Nations and everything
we're all about is global government and depopulation. That's it says,
we have these goals global partnership, global disarmament, and disarmament
doesn't just mean nukes and the government. It means you
also not having self defense. It means fabian socialism and
mass depopulation in whatever ways, in whatever forms. That's what
it means. Man. And remember, population control is not just
sterilization in babies. That's part of it. Population control also
means literal control of the population. Hence why already within
the first forty pages of this book there were multiple
mentions of the coming socialist technocracy electrodes implants, microchips, and
techniques and strategies for depopulation, so all at the very beginning.
And the other thing that I didn't expect early on
was that they actually highlight how important religion will be.
Particularly what they're talking about in nineteen eighty two seems
to be something akin to New Age and Far Eastern
religious concepts, So the continuation of the sixties counterculture New
Age movement further being funded and foisted into the public
sphere to train people into things like being dinks, being neotonous,
being arrested, development, etc. It actually says this in order
that the population growth be curved. They also cite Jonah
Salk Survival The Wisest, which I've lectured through that entire
book as well. So all of the Global Elite texts
I noticed, well, we've got already like ten of them
cited in the very first forty pages of Changing Images
a Man. So it's going to be a great one.
It's going to be a classic, I think, in the
Global Elite series, and I'm so glad to have a
hard copy version of it to actually finally get into.
All Right, but that's not what we're talking about today.
I just want to give you us an update with
the first forty page of Changing Images of Man, one
of the classic globally texts that we just didn't get
to until in Divine Providence I was given a hard copy.
So again, thank you to the guy who sent that.
Shout out to that dude. All Right, so we're going
to get back into some of the classics about the
Vatican and the geopolitical side of things that we've covered many,
many times. But as we say, it has been many years.
I want to remind you that the course that the
Vatican took, you can't isolate this to the twentieth century
or to the liberalism of the time. Of Gregory the
sixteenth and marari Vas or any of these papal texts.
The liberalism from the Orthodox perspective actually goes back to
the papacy being the original Protestantism. And the reason that
we say the papacy is the original Protestantism is because
the church abandoned in Rome, abandoned the earlier sonodal collegials
structure that Rome now admits was the structure of the
Church of the first thousand years. If you read the
Chi eighty document, as you've heard us point out many times,
which is a Vatican approved document on the Eastern model
of the Church, it admits that the Bishop of Rome
did not have unilateral universal jurisdiction in the first millennium.
That's a massive admission that Orthodox have complained about and
critiqued for a millennium. So what happened though when Rome
went in this direction, Well, it sort of necessarily fell
into a kind of geopolitical world power structure. And it's
not just the greed of the popes or something like
that that led to that. That's part of it. But
we also have to understand that there were historical factors
the fall of Rome to the barbarians in four hundred
and four to ten, the rise of the prominence of
the Bishop of Rome to also be a kind of
a cultural hegemony at the time, the rise of the
papal states, the rise of these things which contributed to
the ever growing worldly geopolitical prestige of the Bishop of Rome. Now,
from the Orthodox perspective, we didn't suddenly decide to just
break communion in ten fifty four or whenever, just willy nilly.
From our vantage point, the papacy, after many, many centuries,
and I'll use the Gavin Ortland term, began to have
accretions when it came to their own view of themselves.
So what was originally from our perspective, you see this
in the Canons of Nicea, for example, Canon six a
first among equals relationship, or in the Canons of Sartika,
for example, a first among equals with an appleate structure
where you could ask for a retrial, none of which
is the vat one model of a unilateral autocratic Roma.
Spoken cases closed, right, So maybe I need to remind
you all again of this because this always gets forgotten
and Roman Catholics just do not read their documents. They
just assume what Roman Catholic dogmatic theology is from whatever gibbering,
yapping pap apologists they hear on the internet and they
repeat it like a bunch of minor birds and chirping goobers,
when in fact it says very clearly in their own
documents that appeals in the appellate structure, this is the
Canons of Sartica that they like to appeal to, was
not a unilateral Bishop of Rome decides what's right. In fact,
the appellate structure allowed for the Bishop of Rome to,
if he deemed it appropriate, order a retrial to be
conducted in Rome. No, no, no, in that bishop's province.
So you see this is nothing like the claims of
the vatican I apologists. And that's why you'll see me
referring to the documents that the Roman Catholics never refer to.
They don't go to their documents. They give you this spill,
this bad car salesman pitch, but they don't go to
their documents. You'll notice there that it's not just Rome
that had an appleate structure. You could actually appeal to
other seas as well that were important, such as Constantinople.
See that right there. Appeals regarding disciplinary matters were also
made to Constantinople and to other seas, so it wasn't
even a unilateral only to Rome thing. They were always
treated in a whatnodal way, not unilateral autocratic way. And
what's the last line. The Bishop of Rome did not
exercise canonical authority over the churches of the East in
the first mining. That is contrary to all of Vatican
one's claims. So from our perspective, what happens is that
Rome doesn't overnight go bad. It wasn't there from the beginning.
Over many centuries, the Roman Sea's view of itself grew
into a position that was eventually untenable by the East.
That's our position. Now, another really well done introductory book
on this is Two Paths by Michael Welton. But if
you go to the chapter that most concerns us today,
and this is chapter five, you'll note that Michael Welton's
chapter five is about the Gregorian Revolution and the deeper
that you go into the Gregorian Revolution in this period.
I read several books just on this period. This is
not me just picking this. I'm telling you that this
is an orthodox book that is summarizing what you will
find in the academic literature, and even Roman Catholic academic
literature from Dvornik or Kongar basically admits most of these points. Now,
in the eleventh century, in what's called called the Gregorian
Reform or the if you're Orthodox, the Gregorian Revolution, the
papacy took on openly, massive, explicit geopolitical world power. Now,
keep in mind in the Canons of Chalcedon, it is
forbidden for clerics to also have a role in the
civil state. And I have to talk very slow because
every time I talked to Roman Catholics about this and
we just got they cannot understand this. When I talk
about Unham sanctum, they get lost. They don't understand what
it is I'm saying. So I'm going to be very clear.
Hopefully this is where it becomes a geopolitical secular power.
So let's take the two powers model, church and state.
The state pertains to the things of the body, to
this life, to justice, to the death penalty, to war,
et cetera. The church deals with things of the spirit,
the soul, the inn man. Right, So there's a body
soul relationship that's often used of the two powers idea,
the temporal earthly power and the spiritual heavenly power. Due
to the papal forgeries in part and the claims of
the Gregorian papacy, the argument began to be made that,
especially in Dictatus pope As you know, because the Pope
is the head of the Church, that makes him also
the head of the temporal bodily world as well. So
he's the head of both church and state. And thus
you must confess this doctrine of the Pope being also
a world leader, a geopolitical world power to be saved.
That is Unum sanctum. And the last paragraph of Unam
Sanctum is about this issue. Not only must you confess
the pope as the head of the spiritual power, you
must also confess the pope as the head of all
kings and emperors and a world emperor power to be saved.
And if you don't, you are not in convenient with
the Roman pontiff, and you cannot be saved. Clear as
day now, Unam Sanctum is written by Boniface the Eighth
in thirteen oh two, so this is actually a few
centuries after Dictatus pope h, which says essentially the same
thing in what year is dictats Poppa? Let's see.
Speaker 3: Mh.
Speaker 4: This is really annoying because this used to always come
up first, and now it doesn't come.
Speaker 3: Up when I want it.
Speaker 4: It's just really annoying. Any this is it ten ninety Okay?
So between ten ninety when this is first stated as
far as we know in the Papal registry, and then
explicitly formulated and mandated by thirteen oh two, it's made
abundantly clear that this is necessary for salvation. And remember,
as we've shown in the debates and in the recent videos,
this is repeated all the way up into the Syllabus
of Errors and the Vatican one Pious, the Ninth Documents,
they repeat that you also still have to believe in
the temporal supremacy of the Roman Bishop to be saved.
It cannot go away. It's not a flexible doctrine. Now
post Vatican two, this has all been explicitly discarded. In fact,
the papacy has worked to decatholicize Christian states and everybody
knows about this. Even Benedicted participated in this. So you
essentially have the rejection of the medieval doctrine, the medieval
Latin papal doctrine of the temporal supremacy of the Roman bishop.
But what also happens during this period that are going
reforms that most people are not aware of unless you've
read this history, is that you have one hundred and
sixty four years of Germanic control of the papacy, including
twenty one of twenty five popes during this century or
two centuries, almost appointed by the German crown. Did you
hear that? So it's preposterous and dishonest when Roman Catholics
treat Orthodox as subservient to the state, where Cesero papists,
where Erastians, no, no, no, You had almost two centuries
where literally German kings appointed twenty one of the twenty
five popes. The ninth is the first pope to openly
go into warfare, into battle, the first pope to personally
go to war, to call for a standing army to
go to war to be conducted against the Normans, ending
in his ending a disaster with him being taken prisoner.
The spectacle of priests, bishops, monks, all bearing arms and swords,
shedding blood came as a shock to the Byzantines because
the Byzantines understood that that's not the role of the church,
that's the role of the state. The Christian state has
that significance in that that's the two headed eagle, and
now we have the church side of the two headed
eagle putting on the temporal crown. This is also the
period when we first get holy monks that can fight
warrior monks. There have never been warrior monks prior to this. Okay,
there's a great chapter on this in another excellent book
that I recommend, The Christian East and the Rise of
the Papacy ten seventy one to fourteen fifty three by
Papa Doccus and Mayandorf. It's a great book, excellent chapters
on particularly the templars and the rise of the monastic knights.
Who would fight? Now, are you thinking, let's think about
this in a practical mode of thought. Here, we've never
had this before. The papacy decides it's going to have
warrior monks. Who do you think the warrior monks are
loyal to and fight for the papacy. So he's creating
his own army. All of the these new weird monastic
orders pop up precisely in this Gregorian and post Gregorian period.
This is page fifty nine of the amazing magisterial Papa
Doocus Mayandorff History text. And what propped this up, according
to pages fifty ten fifty three, was the prevalence of
the forgeries, which George just wrote a two volume book about.
Volume two is about the forgeries. You can get that
at Uncut Mountain. Now where did the Leo the ninth
garner the idea, the belief that he could go into
war with warrior monks and monastics. Oh, dick Tatus Pope.
Did you know that? No, the place that he cited actually,
according page is forty eight forty nine Dick Toadus Poppy.
Now remember, I know Roman Catholics are ignorant of this.
They don't have no idea what ancient Canon's taught. But
in the ancient Canons, even in Chalcidon, etc. You can't
be a monk and go into war. You can't be
a priest and fight. It doesn't mean that the state
can't defend the church, but the church doesn't take up
the role of the state. You gubers, Now where do
we get this idea from? Did you know this is
actually a biblical principle outside of a few exceptions with
David and Solomon, and I would argue that's due to
their prophetic role picturing and imaging Christ. Outside of those exceptions,
what happens when Saul offers sacrifices at the altar? Oh
Samuel rebukes him. In other words, the king doesn't come
in and do what the high priest does. The king
isn't the levite in the New Testament, the king is
a type of diaconos. Paul calls the ruler the emperor,
a diaconos who bears the sword for justice. That's the
death penalty idiots. Then there's a two roll twofold two
role power, which is symbolized by the Byzantine eagle. The
church has a spiritual authority to pronounce excommunication and banning
from the table, from the Eucharist, etc. And in some
cases the Church might hand people over to the civil state.
But the Church doesn't grab a sword and lock people's
heads off, except in the medieval papal system they do.
That's where it goes. In other words, this alone, if
you understand this and understand the attitude of the role
of the church and the state that the Orthodox Catholic
Church of the first millennium had towards itself, it limited
itself to not have a secular role. In fact, on
pages forty four and forty five, this whole idea of
a secular state comes out of the papacy attempting to
take power in the state. If you had Christian rulers,
there would be no need for this, And on page
thirty eight and thirty nine they point out that the
papacy originally rejected this idea of the Eastern canonical approach
so that it could have standing armies and go to war.
Now I might let me make sure I didn't get
this wrong. Let me let me let me state this
right from the outset. Leo the ninth was determined to
make the papacy an instrument of spiritual and moral rejuvenation
in Rome and throughout Europe. To this end, Leo journeyed
to the central and south of Italy, but also to
France and Germany and across the Alps three times. Nearly
four and a half years of his five year pontificate
were in fact spent outside of Rome. The numerous regional
reforming synods held during this period of lengthy sojourns often
had as their target the traffic and ecclesiastical offices and
unchased clergy. So the motivation wasn't just power. They did
want to reform the lax state of the clergy in
the Roman jurisdiction. Their object was to rid the Church
of abuses by restoring canonical discipline. The need to reassert
about the validity and the binding power of canon law
for all clergy was repeatedly emphasized. However, this is not
Eastern canon law but papal law. Oh well, that all
sounds good. So where's the problem. Well, here we go.
This is where this becomes problematic. The attempt was to
originally decree canons against simony, sexual laxity amongst the clergy,
sexual laxity in local synods and how they ruled. And
many priests at this time had concubines. Many were suspended,
deposed and excommunicated. The object, in short, was to punish
all the offenders, and even if the synods were not
always successful, no one doubted that Leo the ninth and
his team of like maned assistants were serious in their reforms. However,
after all, to say it once more, the papacy until
then had no sense of itself as an international body
that had responsibilities for the entire world beyond the Alps,
and for Christian Christian Europe as a whole as confining
history as its confining history during the post Carolinian age
illustrates Rome, until this time had rarely interfered outside of Italy. Now,
how is Vatican won true if that's the case. By contrast,
in ten forty nine, it was being extolled as the
undisputed center of all of Latin Christendom, the supreme, divinely
ordained authority of the Church universal. If anything, papal activism
forced Europe to take notice. The Church of Rome was
thus on the threshold of an entirely new age. Pope
Leo effect transformed them into an immediate principal councilor of
advisors known as the cardinals. This is where we get
the office of the cardinal, which there was no cardinals
in the first millennium of Christianity. By the way, So,
by the way, if you want to understand like the
fact that this is a totally different church, just look
at the cardinals who Leo the Ninth just creates right
by decree in ten fifty nine, the cardinal bishops when
in fact be honored with metropolitan authority and choose the
election of a new pope. Now, Ron mccalliy said, well,
the pope can do whatever he wants, so who cares? Interesting,
So the pope can do whatever he wants. Who cares?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: But actually, nowadays the pope's held by tradition. He can't
do whatever. So it's not somebody clear exactly how the
pope can do whatever he wants. But he's also not
able to do what ever he wants. Oh, he's biled
by tradition. This is also the period where the Roman
Church universally begins to mandate celibacy for all the clergy.
Even though they had already waffled on Trollo's allowing for
married clergy, this was the period when they began to
enforce it. The first cardinal election was ten fifty nine.
And by the way, I think I got it backwards,
it's actually Leo the ninth who's first. He's Gregory the
seventh before Gregory the seventh. So it's it's Leo the
ninth that goes to war and has all the principles
that Gregory the seventh then puts into Dictatus pape so
I got that. I think I got that backwards. Part
of the controversy, by the way, side note that led
to the rise of the authority on the part of
the Bishop of Rome in terms of claims for himself
was the controversy between Gregory the seventh and Henry the third.
And if I recall, this is the I'm going for. Remember,
but I think I think he imprisoned the pope and
then in response the pope got out and then made
him like stand outside in the snow to repent or whatever.
And so this is what led the pope to say, Aha, see,
I have to be above all the world rulers or
they will imprison me. So this is his rationale. So yeah,
So it's Leo the knights beliefs that lead to Gregory
the seventh principles listed in Dictatus Pape and that's covered
on pages forty eight and forty nine of this book.
And of course after this is this period. By the way,
let's see, the first time the word vicar of Christ
is ever used is this period, and that's admitted by Kongar.
So this is page fifty. No one had ever used
this term vicar of Christ. Although I take that back.
According to Papadacus, the term Vicar of Christ was actually
used for the emperor, and then it becomes the title
for the pope uses in the West. So when Roman
Catholics use the phrase vicar of Christ, you can point
out to them, Oh, you mean the same term that
was used for the emperor prior to ten fifty nine. Yeah,
when was it ever used prior to ten fifty nine
for the Roman bishop. By the end of the century,
Pope Innocent the third was already discarding the formula representative
or vicar of Peter, and now he used the term
Vicar of Christ. The text goes on to talk about
the forgeries being a key to this period, and it
was actually the entire Eastern Church which was the basis
for Dictatus Pope itself. Dictatus popy is directed against the
Eastern Church. Then we get the new weird monastic fighting orders.
Who are the agents that prop up the new papacy?
Does that not make a lot of sense? We get
Bernard of Clairvaux, we get the templars, we get the hospitalers,
the papal assassins of this period, and it will based
trad Notice how they don't even care that the very
rise of a papacy with a sword undercuts the notion
of a Christian state. They don't even realize that this
undoes the very thing that they think is based in
trad a Christian state, because it's no longer a duty
and a role of a Christian king or emperor. It's
now the role of the head of the Church, the
spiritual power. So it's confusing the spheres of authority and
power again. Leo the Ninth first pope to personally go
to war. This is a new revolutionary order, and in
fact it is these claims and reforms in part that
spawn the Protestant Reformation. So far from Roman Catholics blaming
everybody else for this and Luther and this, and that,
they have only to blame themselves for the nonsense of
Dictata's pape, Leo the Ninth and warrior monks now, to
be precise, in terms of this triple crown, as you know,
the papal tirra or triple crown, was supposed to signify
the triplicity of authority, that the pope has right in heaven,
on earth, and under the earth, and that he's above
all the state rulers as well. John Paul the second,
Excuse me, John Paul the First was the first pope
to reject receiving the papal tiara, again showing you that
the Vatican two popes have rejected the notion of the
Christian state. That's why Vatican two is nothing about the
Christian state and all about freedom of conscience, freedom of worship,
of private interpretation, all that stuff. Now I mean when
I say private interpretation, I'm talking about the right of
the conscience of the individual and all that which prior
to that is condemned many times over in many papal documents. Oh,
by the way, when Leo the ninth was challenged on
why he could go to war and why he could
have vast landholdings, guess what he cited as his basis.
You got it, the donation of Constantine, the infamous universally
admitted forgery. M Now, it's funny too that after this
period is the first the first discussion of the paper
the Here's an interesting question that you never hear of
the Roman Catholics raise when is the first mention of
infallibility for the Bishop of Roman. Does anybody know it's explicit,
like an explicit referen as to the infallibility of the
Bishop of Rome. Now, if this was always the teaching
of the church, presumably it would have been in the
first thousand years. But no, it turns out there's not
a mention of this in the first thousand years. Well,
when was the first mention of papal infallibility, specifically of
Historian Brian Tierney has shown that papal infallibility itself did
not develop slowly, but was created by members of the
Franciscan order at the end of the thirteenth century because
it suited their convenience to invent this doctrine. Pope John
the twenty second attacked their doctrine of evangelical poverty, and
in thirteen twenty four, John the twenty second actually condemned
papal infallibility as a novel. He also got in trouble
for other doctrines, and he's one of the popes that
Roman Catholics will argue over as to whether he actually
taught heresy anyway, regardless, John the twenty second was, he says,
the Franciscan leaders defended the cherished papal bull on the
grounds that it was irreformable and it's very irreformability logically
presupposed papal and fallibility. John the twenty second, however, was
not interested in personal papal and fallibility. For him, infallibility
would place him in a straight jacket, limiting his powers
and thus limiting the reigning ponted by the infallible declaration
of every predecessor. March of thirteen twenty two, John the
twenty second issued the Bull Extravagantes, in which he maintained
the right of a reigning pope's right to annul any
of the decrees and judgments of his predecessors. So this
is fascinating because John the twenties this is Think about
how crazy this is. John the twenty second doesn't want
to admit papal infallibility because the Franciscans are saying there
has to be papal and fallibility, because that would make
John the twenty second bound by his predecessors. John twenty
second is saying, I am not bound by my predecessors,
and that's there isn't papal infallibility, because I can thus
a null or create judgments against or for my predecessors.
This is so goofy. In thirteen twenty four, he issues
another bull called quia quirndum quarundom, in which he preempt
contemptuously proclaims that papal irreformability and infallibility is a pernicious
audacity that the Father of lies has led the Franciscans
to declare. Now, let's here's a great quote from normy
papal apologists, just to show you how dishonest and ignorant
they are. This is from uh who is this? Radio
replies by Leslie Rumble and Charles Cardi, Roman Catholic writers.
They this is what they say before the definition of
papal infallibility in eighteen seventy, the popes did not know
that they were infallible with the same clarity as Slater popes.
But they were infallible. So papal infallibility was there, just
nobody knew about it. But they still had it. It
was there, but they didn't even know. This thing is
how stupid this position. This is actual romancalic apology. This
is tan books papal apologetics. I mean talk about smoke
and mirrors and just it's just crazy, dude, it's a
crazy funhouse. Well, you may be familiar with this period
because this is also when we get the great Schism
of the West, and why would we even have the
great Schism of the West if it were not the
papacy directly wrapped up in geopolitical power. Because we get
three claimants to the See of Rome, the See of
Rome eventually gets solved in terms of its claimant through
guess what an ecumenical council. So imagine trying to think
that the Council of Constance which decided which pope would
be the pope. But at the same time, according to
Vatican One, your dogma is that no pope is above
a council. I mean you mean no councils are a
spirit of popes. In fact, when anti Pope John resigned
and the Council of Constance said that it would be
Pope Martin that would be chosen as the legitimate Pope,
Pope Martin wrote inter Cunctas which said that no one
is superior to an ecumenical Council of the Church, which
is the head of the church. That's inter cunctas of
Pope Martin. Well, it's not infallible, doesn't accept it. Yeah,
it's only infallible when you agree with it, and when
the popes do something wrong or contradict, suddenly it's not infallible,
which means essentially that it's a worthless system. It's like
a Protestant saying the verse means what I wanted to
mean when I like it, and if you ciite a
verse against me, it doesn't mean that. So Roman Catholics
are Protestant explos they're the first Protestants. Now in terms
of religious liberty, we already listed in multiple livestreams all
the condemnations of religious liberty, and yet it is the
most important thing, one of the most important things. Throughout
Vatican two Impact there's an entire document on how crucial
religious liberty is, even though it was condemned, and even
though if you go back to the Fourth Latteran Council,
anyone who would not exterminate heretics was excommunicated. So kings
at the Fourth Lattering Council who will not germinate heretics
are excommunicated. Fast forward to Vaticantu in nineteen sixty five.
Religious liberty and freedom of conscience and freedom of worship
are fundamental human rights, guaranteed every work to everyone at
all times. I mean, this is a joke. This thing
is actually a ridiculous joke, and they just can't accept it.
It's so earth shattering and frightening that they can't accept that.
So that's the background of the geopolitical situation that the
papers they found itself in throughout these centuries. And I'm
sure we all know about the Renaissance papacy with the
medicis and all that kind of stuff and Alexander the
Six And if you've ever watched Jeremy Irons playing the Borgias,
that's actually a good series. You get another insight into
the insane, preposterous levels of worldliness during that period. Which
it's not a moral critique. I understand that plenty of
Orthodox bishops throughout the world have been luxurious and corrupt
and all that. So the argument here is not about
moral corruption or impeccability. The argument is about a doctrinal change,
an ecclesiastical change in the structure of the church and
in the doctrines of the church, to say that the
pope can now have standing armies, go to war, excommunicate
entire nations when their kings don't go to war for
them to fill the papal coffers. And it's these things
in part that led to the Reformation. That doesn't mean
the Reformation doctrines are good, but the critiques of the
reformers are not without substantial basis. That's the point. By
the way, guys, welcome, We got over a thousand people.
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great books there so far. Let's talk about just a
couple pointers from history that are relevant as well. Obviously
we can't go through all of history here, but everyone
should read diktatas pape if you've never read it, and
then you should go and read the one page doctrine
a document. When I'm saying to them, hopefully you can
read one page. It's not too much of a strain
on you, guys. And also, yeah, so in nineteen oh six,
the Jewish Encyclopedia had a fascinating intro which I've read
for years that and I couldn't find it though, but
it is being pl up here via Gemini, so it
is accurate, even though I can't find the actual Jewish
psocrapedia reference, so I think it's just under the Rothchilds.
It points out that the Rothchilds have been the guardians
of the Papal treasury. Interesting, and this goes back for
many centuries. I think to the seventeen hundreds is when
they were given this title. And if you look up
Rathchild loans to the Holy See, you will find that
there have been many of these over the centuries, well,
mainly over the last couple centuries.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: In fact, the Vatican Bank itself comes out of this
whole management structure of the Rothchild family being the bankers
to and for the Holy See. This relationship was a
notable aspect of the Rothchild's family's extensive involvement in European
finance throughout the seventh century. Let's see if we can
find it here in the Jews. Executy. Oh, look, there
we go two million francs in eighteen forty five to
the Papal states.
Speaker 3: Right there.
Speaker 4: Now there's more than one. Here's sixteen million francs to
the Papal States in eighteen thirty one. These are loans
the guardians of the papal treasure. There So who are
the guardians of the papal treasure? According to the Jewish
encyclopedia the Rothschralds, And even here it lists the papal
states as the receivers of at least two massive loans
from the French Rothchild's sixty million francs. Two million francs.
That's just two of them. Here's another one for four
hundred pounds that must be from the British Childs. Now
why are we bringing that up. Well, because a lot
of people argue and try to give the impression that, oh,
the corruption that we see or the problems that we see,
that these are the liberals of Vatican two, the liberalism
of Vatican two. Well, if you're aware of medieval church history,
you already can see can see that. It's not a
question of can I link it. You can't go to
the Jewish encyclopedia and just look up Rothchild for yourselves.
You goes that lazy. It's not a question of the
liberalism of the nineteen sixties. I mean, that's a role
that plays a role in it. But what we're illustrating here.
What we're pointing out is the centuries of problems and
corruption stemming from what stemming from dogmatic change and contradiction
stemming from an alteration after ten fifty four that the
papacy itself admits was not the structure of the church
for the first thousand years, and it begins to be
a cardinalate, imperial banking structure, a corporate structure, and there's
actually books been written about modern corporations are actually modeled
on the structure of the Vatican. Hey, Jamie, when you
got a chance because you made me an express so
well you hear me, thank you. So the original business
church is actually the papacy. Let me give you an
example from another book that we've not really gotten to yet.
I've only read a little bit of it. As you
guys know, we did do a recent talk from Paul
Williams's book on the history of al Qaeda. We also
did some years back the entirety of Paul Williams's Operation Gladio.
And it turns out he has another book on the
Vatican Bank and its background in history. And I'm not
lectured through this book yet. But again, Paulliams is a
mainline Catholic historian and professor who consulted with the FBI
for many years. So he's not in any way a
conspiracy theorist, and he's very much an accepted establishment kind
of you know, Catholic personage. But he notes that the
reason for the establishment of the Vatican Bank was, as
we've seen, the most secretive bank in the world that
has never been audited, and thus, as a sovereign bank
in a sovereign state, because the Vatican is its own
city state, it becomes a perfect means and method for
money laundering and black ops and the funding of illicit
things and lo and behold, it has always been involved
in those things, and many of these scandals have come out.
You may or may not have heard this. It's the
Vatican Bank scandals many of the In fact, there have
been recent Vatican Bank scandals, but there were Vatican Bank
scandals in the sixties and seventies tied to Gladio and
the mafia that are very well known. I'm not going
to reheard, but if you would like a decent documentary
that gets into Bishop Marcinkus, the Banco Dembrosio UH and
Leccio Gelli Head La Mafia and Roberto Kalvi being killed
and assassinated as a result of all this. There are
good documentaries that have been around for a long time,
and you don't have to thus read all these long books.
Let's see, you know what, I might actually this might
be better on just a little hint here. If you're
looking for older, classic kind of documentaries, stuff that doesn't
pop up anymore, just use yandex and almost always comes
up on yandex. Look at that right there, right away.
I think this is it. Yeah, this is it, this
older blurry documentary. It's not actually Press TV. I think
this is made by CBC or something else. It's actually
a good documentary, but you can't get it to come
up on like YouTube or Google. You have to use yandex. Yeah, exactly, Rachel.
This is the scandals we know about, imagine what we
don't know about. So this one is good, and there's
there's actually several of these. There's one I think maybe
by the Canadian Broadcasting Company some years back, but I
don't remember the name of it. See it might be
this one. Let's see what this is.
Speaker 2: On a quiet night in nineteen eighty two, Italian banker
Roberto Calvi is on the run. This might be he
has spent a lifetime working for Banko on bro Ziano,
a bank whose biggest customer is the Vatican, but now
he's a fugitive desperately trying to escape the long arm
of the law. An Italian smuggler arranged for him to
be driven overnight to Austria, where he shuttled between several
cities for a few days before boarding in to Rome.
Speaker 4: To consult with the Pope.
Speaker 2: Their financial empirement Jewish banker James de Rothschild, head of
the family's Paris based headquarters, becomes the official papal banker.
Speaker 4: There you go. Now, I think down the road we'll
actually probably do a talk on Paul Williams's Vatican stuff.
But he also in this book discusses the CIA's longtime
connections with Paul the six because they were worried that
John the twenty third was to They called him the
Pink Pope, so they were worried he was a little
too open to the Soviet into socialism, and so they
wanted to make sure and thus they were involved in
the conclave that elected Originally they wanted Cardinal siri, and
then it ended up being they went with Paul the sixth,
and after that time, Kissinger met with Paul the six
very regularly throughout the Cold War, and I think you could.
You could and Gordon Thomas syn the same thing with
John Paul the Second, like the CIA met with John
Paul the Second all the time. But oh well, it
was a Cold War, okay. Yeah, but I thought that
the papacy was the guide here, and yet the papacy
seems to be doing what the CIA wants during the
Cold War. Interesting why is that? Well, at one point
the bank called Ambrosio collapse led to the collapse of
all the banks in Italy, including the Vatican Bank, and
the roth Tels actually came in I think, with a
billion dollars and bailed it out. So way, thank you
guys for the super chat. I appreciate that. Shepherd nine
one one five dollars yay. I've always appreciate the level
of research that you put into this. I can see
why Sam Hide brought you on to write. Thank you, sir.
Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, we should have a couple
of new episodes out in the near future. One of
them is going to be very ridiculous. So we'll have
to see. I'm interested to see how many people redeem
redeemed that that pens rode not to redeem that. It's
going to be a wild one. V Scott five dollars.
Pay Piggies here for the Roman Catholic cookout cuter twenty dollars.
Always thankful for the reiteration of how much of the
papal nonsense stay strong, Diar, thank you so much. Caucasian
sent a membership. Thank you Black Flame Nova one hundred dollars.
If Andrew gets gifts for his grift, so should you.
Here's for all that you do. Wow, thank you so much. Man,
appreciate that. Very kind of you, very generous. And uh,
we also want to mention some of these scandals because
the point of all this is that this is all interconnected.
And the reason that we can't point people to this
institution to rescue Western civilization all that is that it
is a corrupt from the top down. That's why it's
that simple. So I know there's a lot of sincere
Roman Catholics and guys that mean well and they want
to do right, and they want to oppose corruption and
all that, and I empathize with it. I sympathize with it.
I know I was a tradcat. I get it. I
get it. But the problem is, eventually you realize this
institution is your enemy. It's not the Orthodox over here
that are your real enemies. These people that you're fighting
is it's the revolutionaries in Rome who wear the people might.
I was going to say the tr but they don't
wear the tr anymore. So that's that's what you Eventually,
you eventually get just burnt out trying to defend Roman Catholicism.
When the people that run Roman Catholicism are your enemies.
It's a trapped like they're the ones that are really
fighting you. And once you realize that, it's like, all
I'm done. It's like why am I? It's like it'd
be like trying to spend all of your time defending
Biden and then you go meet Biden and he flips
you off and poops his pants and tries to thring it,
fling his senior citizen poop on you. You're like, okay,
I'm done defending Biden. Like this guy is not actually
my friend and I don't think he likes me. Right,
we all know Biden was like pooping himself and just
screwing with his secret service and all these people. It's like,
You're like, why am I defending this guy? This guy's crazy.
So let's mentioned in passing that we've we've lectured through
this whole book, and even if fifty percent of this
book is correct, let's say fifty percent of this book
is just wrong, just factually wrong. Even as an FBI
consultant Paul Wiams got it wrong. Okay, let's say fifty
percent of the book is wrong. I don't think it is,
but let's say it is. The other fifty percent that
is right is enough to show this is an absolutely
insane or international crime organization. That's why I'm so constantly
opposed to the Vatican. It's not because I'm mad, it's
not because I'm jealous. It's not because I envy Nick
Flintis's audience. It's not because I wish I'm butt hurt
because constantinople Fell like none of that. It's because I
was in the domain of tradcat world for many years
throughout my twenties. I saw it, lived it. I understand
the insanity and the double think and the craziness that
it produces. And I don't want Roman Collichs to go
through that. I want you to be free from that.
I know you think, oh, you just hate, you just hate.
I don't like the organized crime goblins in Rome. I
like Tim Gordon. I love Tim Gordon and his family.
His family is awesome. He's got all these kids and
they're great. I want to see Tim Gordon free from
the shackles and slavery of this organized crime syndicate that
they believe is infallible. It's just crazy. So to summarize
in this book, we're not gonna lecture this whole bit.
I've already lectured through this entire book. You can go
find it on the channel. The summary is just simply
that the in nineteen forty seven, the CIA reached out
to the Vatican to try to make connections because the
Cold War's kicking off and they want to try to
ensure that this vast global entity will be on their
side in the Cold War. And so William Colby and
other Prior to that, of course, it was the Zionist
James Jesus Angleton who was at the Rome desk for
the for the OSS Colby reaches out and they offer
sixty five million dollars to the Vatican Bank in nineteen
forty eight to help the Vatican win against the Socialist
and the Communists in the election. Now the Vatican isn't running,
but they wanted to support the pro American, pro CIA,
pro OSS candidates Christian Democrats or whatever they're called. And
that because obviously, if you're the Vatican, you know you
don't want communists taken over Italy, right, Because I'm not
saying the Communists are good, but I'm saying that this
is the beginning of the alliance with the Vatican and
the CIA in nineteen forty seven, and particularly here William Colby.
Now if you don't know who William Colby is, he
is a very important trad cat Cold War figure. And
there's a great documentary that his son made and it's
called The Man Nobody Knew. We've done a whole podcast
just on this documentary. I highly recommend everybody go watch it.
It will give you a lot of good context and
it will back up a lot of the things that
you hear me talking about that we talked about in
this book. The Roman Gallic Church at this time reached
out not just to the Vatican, but I want to
add also to Hollywood people, Gary Cooper, Frank Sinatra. They
were also tapped for promotion of Catholicism and Americanism during
this time period to fight the Cold War. Now, to
be clear, I am not saying everybody involved in this
was nefarious and malicious. I understand that at that time
they thought this was the right thing to do. And
I definitely believe in private property and human rights and
well the Ten Commandments, I should say I believe in
those things, and I don't believe in the NK or
the Soviet Party's a ligner and that stuff. But that
doesn't mean that that makes all of the Vatican goblins
and the CIA operatives the good guys. Okay, this is
just the real politic, the real world, because what happens
is the means by which they decide to set up
the funding structure here involves drugs and weapons. And how
are we going to fund and put money into the
Vatican Bank and also fund some of these black ops
when number one, we can't have this public money because
that will get congressional investigation. So they do it off
the books, and we're going to use the world's most
secretive bank, the Vatican Bank, and the Vatican will perhaps
help us if we need funding for black ops. And
that's exactly what happened. In fact, many many shell company
banks are created, and these show companies all end up
tied into organized crime Sicilian mafia, the mafia in the US,
and the OSS and CIA. One of the key banks
tied into this was the Hambrose Brothers Bank, which was
an OSS and British intelligence bank. Hambrose himself was a
British jew who set up a bank that would be
involved in British intelligence operations and it was also tied
into Opus Day and thus Opus Day becomes one of
the central links in this chain that would be used
by the CIA and other individuals in terms of Operation Gladio.
So this is where Gladio comes in to be to
be funded through the stuff that we're talking about. Eventually, however,
this collapsed. And what's fascinating when I made a video
back when FTX collapsed, because the structure of FTX and
it's scam is actually really close to the same pyramid
style structure scam of the collapse of the Bank of Ambrosio.
And thus the Vatican Bank and others. Twenty two billion
dollars were lost. And they were basically betting with people's
other people's money. Particularly, they were betting with everybody in
Italy's pension money. Isn't that crazy? Now, Specifically on the
organized crime side of this, Paul the sixth was very
close to Michelle Sindona, who was an organized crime figure
and trafficker. And Michelle Sendona was the finance kingpin, and
he was also running operations at the Vatican Bank. Michelle
Sendona was also directly connected to David Rockefeller, and so
the secrets of the Vatican Bank then, as you can see,
are like perfect. The secrecy of it is perfect. For
in one case, for example, the United States sent ten
million dollars to Michelle Sendona to fund Operation Gladio in
nineteen seventy. According to Paul Williams, the guy running all
of this was actually Kissinger. So Kissinger was the one
that was meeting with Paul the six regularly meeting with
President Nixon and meeting with and giving orders to Leccio Gelli,
who had, through Epstein's style parties, compromised the cardinals for
the most part, and the bishops of Italy, so Italy
in terms, and politicians too, I forgot politicians. The cardinals
and the bishops were invited to Bunga Bunga parties. Have
you heard of this? This was the famous parties that
Silvio Berlusconi had, who was himself a member of P two.
All these people are members of the P two lodge too.
By the way, all of this gets printed in the
Italian and European press. Explodes the door on all of
the Gladio stuff. And in nineteen eighty one this was
published in European and Italian press. All nine hundred and
sixty two members of the P two Lodge and those
who have been attending the Bunga Bunga parties at the
clandestine Lodge which yeah, Epstein stops dock. This is page
one oh nine. Here's an example of the list. And
by the way, the first person listed is Silville Burlescon. Yeah,
so these are Roman Catholic diddy parties. But I would imagine,
I mean, I'm sure they used boys and girls at this.
But do you remember this.
Speaker 5: Scone is savoring his court victory in the infamous of
Bunga Bunga case and plunging ahead with politics, saying he's
working for a better Italy even though he remains barred
from public office. Tuesday, Italy's highest court confirmed Berlascone's acquittal
on charges he paid an underage Moroccan prostitute for sex
and then used his influence to cover it up. The
ruling closed an embarrassing chapter for the media mobile, exposing
the raunchy parties that has Belan mansion, complete with show
girl strip teases. In a statement, Berlascone cheered the decision
but express bitterness.
Speaker 4: So this was a huge deal, you know, like ten
fifteen years ago, because it came out that he was
engaged in these Bunga bunga parties. But this is nothing new.
The Bunga Bunga parties are happening in nineteen eighty one,
so like it goes back to the seventies. Gladio and
all the members of the P two lodge. By the way,
this is all public, like, this isn't even this isn't theory.
You can actually go look up the P two list.
It's all declassified public stuff from late seventies, early eighties.
So anyway, speaking of these characters, a lot of these
characters the Vatican Bank, for example, would create shell companies
the Vatican and then own shell companies which would engage
in the shipping of arms and drugs and perhaps other
black market things people perhaps, and thus they would be
they've had a plausible deniability because well, it's not the
Vatican doing it, it's a shell company for the Vatican,
and that's all come out. Attican owns arms, shipping companies
that were fronts and shells, and thus they had plausible
deniability and they could say that there were one or
two levels removed from people like Lecchio Gelli through Michel Sendona,
who was really close to Paul the Six. By the way,
I should have asked Sammy the Bull about this, because
for example, here's a fascinating section that I didn't think
to ask Sammy the Bull, and we were talking about
all this stuff. In addition to the shell corporations, Roberto
Calviy remained Michel Sindona's successor as the principal banker for
the heroin trade. Insight into Roberto Calviy's position as the
mob's concilierre was provided in nineteen ninety six when Francesco Manoya,
the leading pentito who collaborated with the informant for the
FEDS from the Sicilian mafia testified in the Andreotti trial.
He told the court that Roberto Calvi became the key
figure laundering heroin money for the American mafia. After the
arrest warrant for Michelsondona have been issued in Italy in
nineteen seventy six, the heroin, according to Manoya, continued to
be sent to the Gambinos of Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
The Gambinos wul then deposit large sums of money of
their earnings into the banks that were controlled by Roberto
Calvi that were then cleansed money laundering cleansed for the
Vatican Bank or what's called the Institute of Religious Affairs
or Institute of Religious Works. Eventually, the money was then
used by the American mafia to purchase hotels, lands, and
financial companies in Florida and the island of Aruba. So
that's where your Vatican tithe money is going, you idiots. Oh,
this do dont corrupt anymore. Yeah, they just assassinated John
Paul the first, right, I mean, this is why John
Paul the First got assassinated. It was over this stuff.
You understand, you read this book and it explains what
was going on and why he was assassinated. Now, but
wait a minute, John Paul the Second was a saint,
He was a hero. You mean the guy who would
hang out with and meet Savile and gave Savile a
papal knighthood. You mean the guy that promoted Bishop Marcinkus,
one of the key criminal figures in the Vatican bank scandals.
Oh yeah, John Paul the Great. Sure, I think to
be the Great, or to be knighted or to be
called Dame this or that or Sir this or that,
you actually have to be exceptionally wicked. That's like the
only way to actually be like given these high high
titles and awards and promotions. Anyway, So there's a lot
more this this book has. Basically every page is full
of fascinating information. And to take that book by Paul
Williams and then read Whitney Webb's book on the way
that the jeff Stein mcaffree operation was conducted via Maxwell,
just Laine, et cetera. And that entrapment operation. Oh, that's
exactly what Lechio, Gelly and Kissinger's entrapment operation through the
P two lodges was happening in the nineteen seventies. It's
exact same, it's the same model. So are you noticing
a pattern? This is how they run things. Yeah, the
well wait a minute, what about so the lodge? Okay,
this isn't a typical Freemason lodge. I'm totally against freemasonry.
But somebody might say, well, wait a minute. Mussolini was
opposed to masonry and he didn't like them, and neither
did tiny mustache Man. So how could there be lodges
that were pro Cia and all that. Well, that's what
P two is. P two law were the leftovers of
masonry that were fascists. So some of the lodges, apparently
the P two they actually, this isn't schizo. I'm citing
to you normal mainline historic texts. Why are you calling
this stuff schizo? I'm literally giving you historian Catholic authors
that are consultants for the FBI. What are you talking about? Schizo? So,
I mean, it's literally a easily accessible Wikipedia article, And
I'm not saying it's true because of the a Wikipedia article.
I'm saying that it's a Wikipedia article because it's not
even controversial. Idiot, Its charter was transformed by Leccio Gelli.
That's exactly what I just told you. Now, I think
this will even tell you that because it's all public. Now,
this lodge was secret until it was discovered through glad
you and Michelson Dona's bank collapse. Oh look at all
this stuff I'm telling you. It turns out it's publicly information.
You just didn't know. See you, what you think is
skitzo is just because you're illiterate and you don't read.
You're the problem, not me. All right, So moving on
this alliance that had been formed that we saw with
the Rumman Catholic Church and Western intelligence, it actually kind
of made sense and you could empathize with and see
why the popes would be convinced of it. Right, your
bank is running out of money. There's been corruption already
in the Vatican Bank. The CIA reaches out, Hey, we
are pro freedom, we're pro private property, we're pro God.
We're going to help you fight this political information battle
with the Communists that are about to be elected. We're
going to give you money, tens of millions of dollars.
You're going to then defeat the Communists and the Christian Democrats.
Who are pro rumed Catholic will win the elections. But
the problem is that now you are indebted to the
people that have put all the money in your bank.
Obviously the borrower is servant to the lender. So I
mentioned this stuff on Twitter the other day and this
know it all. Actually there were only two or three
loans of them. It's like, dude, you want to haggle
with me over this, like Minutia when scripture says very
clearly the borrower is servant to the lender. So if
the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and the CIA, or they're
bailing out collapsing Vatican banks. Yeah, there's many. There's actually
several documentaries on gladi.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: None of this is contrable. This is all public stuff.
This is not even theory. This is all public known stuff.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's just move on. So another book that we
lectured through that was an academic text was Michael Graziano's
recent thesis published as Aaron into the Wilderness Religion in
the History of the CIA. And this whole book is
well the relationship of the OSS and the CIA two
American religion. Most of the stuff that you've heard me
talk about is all backed up in this book. There
were there were some things that were new to me
though when we read this. For example, I didn't know
that Tom Dooley. Tom Dooley was a famous Roman Catholic
actor who was also recruited into doing a lot of
propaganda and Cold War you know, anti cold anti Communist
Cold War stuff. And one reason that they were able
to do that because he was gay. So Tom Dooley,
who was very close to Paul the six and a
famous honorary PhD from Notre Dame. Shocker, I know, right,
it's a shocker that a Roman Catholic would be gay.
Tom Dooley was apparently recruited and used in this way
because he was gay. I mean, this is the point
I was making the other day, the reason that you
can't have people who are highly intelligent. That can't be
the only criteria for leadership, because you can have highly
intelligent people who are captive to certain vices. Now we're
all captive to vices in some way, but certain vices
make it not possible for you to be in a
leadership role. It will compromise you. And not only are
you compromised, well, you're also subject to in a slave
to your vices in this way. So the reason that
even in the Cold War this was everywhere understood was
that the Soviets would just immediately comp and get dirt
on anybody who was secretly gay during the Cold War.
So anyway, I'm not going to rehearse all this book,
but it is relevant to note that one thing that,
even as a secular historian, Michael Graziano noted was that
the entire project of ecumenism was an oss CIA Americanist project. Now, yes,
ecumenism existed prior to that, and even prior to the
os S and CIA picking up on it. It was
a very powerful tool. It was funded by the Rockefeller
family by many, many millions of dollars. We've covered that,
that's in the rock Filler biography. But the one thing
that we found interesting on page sixty eight sixty nine
was that the term Judeo Christian is actually a Cold
War psychological warfare tool. So people are, oh, where's the
where Judeo christianhood? It's out of the Cold War. It's
a term that the OSS and CIA used to try
to capitalize on any force in the West that was
pro God and pro family or anything like that to
help fight the Cold War. So again that's where that
term comes from. The idea was that a Judeo Christian
society's pluralism would be a better society, and you could
sell that over the USSR's anti liberal society. Did you
know that the Soviets were anti liberal? I know that
might be a shock to some dumb people, but Sovietism
is anti liberal. They're opposed to classical liberalism. They're opposed
to capitalism, which is a liberal, classical liberal economic theory.
So the CIA reason, the USS reasons opposed them with
religious pluralism and the idea of a Judeo Christian pluralist
society that naturally led directly to ecumenism and what's called
the doctrinal warfare program of the CIA. Now, this book
has a whole section on CD Jackson, ed Lilly Henry
LUs of Time Magazine, all of these other figures who
were involved with the Eisenhower Psychological Strategy Board PSB. The
Psychological Strategy Board of Eisenhower and Henry LUs was a
skull bonesman, Skull and bones, the guy behind Time Life magazine,
and they went in on this idea that together if
we could come up with a common ethos of a
supreme being and natural law. All of the religious world
could be grouped together to fight the Cold War, Page
seventy two, seventy three. Now this is a secular scholar
who can recognize all the things that I say. He
doesn't have a religious few as far as I am.
In fact, he comes off as kind of woke. How
can a secular woke dude recognize this? But none of
you Roman Catholics can recognize this, and you normy docs
can't recognize this. This isn't even a long book. You
could read this book in two days. It's one hundred
and eighty pages and a main line academic text will
tell you everything that I say right here, pages seventy two,
seventy three. Henry Leose then decided it would be useful
to recruit people like Billy Graham for the anti Soviet
Cold War message and the term they came up. We
can't make this. This is this is so gay spiritual democracy.
This is their this is their psychological warfare slogan term.
If we all believed in spiritual democracy and understood it,
and if we just listened to Billy Graham's luxuals, and
if we held Miles Billiguy, that's all cold wars. Do
you understand Billy Graham is a Cold warrior. Those giant
tent revivals and stadium revivals are to fight the Cold War,
you idiots. It's not about fiving years soul. Yes, Billy
Graham was utilized. Now, that doesn't mean that Billy Graham
was sent to the farm and was given training and
was taught how to seduce women and to kill people.
That's the no. Billy Graham is brought into the boardrooms
with people like Henry Luis and they say, hey, we're
gonna put you on Time magazine to be our the
voice of America and God's voice to the nations. But
it's for the Cold War. Admittedly, it's called the doctrinal
warfare program. Guess what they didn't just look for evangelical
goobers to be the face of this. They also look
for Muslim preachers to be the face of the Cold War.
Why am I saying this? You cannot understand all of
this and all the stuff that happened and Vatican two
without the Cold War. That's the setting, the ethos, the milieu,
and in fact he this dude goes on to say,
they also looked for Muslim preachers to be this kind
of a pro Western thing. There was, for example, an
e mom of Jerusalem that they thought aid in the
Cold War. Now remember that's where we give musjah Haden.
The CIA pays for and trains the muja Hadeen to
fight the Soviets. In fact, the Doctrinal Warfare Program stressed
that amongst the CIA alliance of the Acumenist religious project,
they would intentionally quote avoid dogmas and stress lowest common
denominator spiritual democracy is the gayest term of reheard to
promote a global acumenism. So, even though Cumanism is prior
to the Cold War, the os S and CIA explicitly
and self consciously, especially Bill Donovan himself, who was a
massive ecumenist, you utilize the idea of a global ecumenous
project to defeat the Soviets. In fact, the CIA during
this period would even make ties with Buddhism. Thus Tibetan
Buddhism and the Tibetan Project were specific CIA projects. We
just cover that two streams ago. That is also declassified.
Why think about it? Who does who hates the Dalai
Lama China. Why because of the CIA Tibet Program. The
CIA Tibet Program was an anti Chinese government covered operation
spanning twenty years. It consisted of political action, propaganda, military
intelligence operations, all this kind of stuff facilitated by arrangements
between the Dalai Lama and the CIA. Are you beginning
to see how raw on an expanse of this ideological
war is. And these people don't care about your theological minutia,
Okay to all you theology nerds. They don't care about
Homo Usius, they don't care about the essence inner distinction,
don't care about Philly Oakway. The concern is a giant
ecumenist ideological alliance to win the Cold War. And why
are we winning the Cold War? Is it because everybody
in the West are the good guys? Now, a lot
of people in the CIA and in the intelligence in
the West are good guys. My uncle was a famous
Air Force intelligence guy in the Cold War. He flew
missions out of Turkey against the Soviets, So I am
not pro Soviet. My point is that when you make
this alliance, you now have a new master. And if
the CIA and the Rockefellers and all these people have
bailed out your bank. They're not gonna let you just
do whatever you want. You answer to them now. And
so if John Paul the Second needs to shoot a
photo op for the Cold War and all the tradcat
era CIA people under Reagan, if they tell him he's
gonna do it, he's got to do it. Anyway. This
Michael Graziano book is great, by the way. It's it's
really good. By the way. The last chapter is about
Zavigna Razinski and that whole plan of supporting the al
Qaeda to fight the Soviets. Oh, I forgot another character
that's brought in by the CIA, Joseph Campbell and his
archetypes that could be utilized to promote ecumenism. One five. Now,
where where did we just see today? Joseph Campbell and
acumenism and archetypes. Oh, it's changing images of man, the
very thing I talked about the very beginning. And although
I thought this book was going to focus on I
don't know, Brazinski type stuff, the first forty plus pages
is about spirituality, archetypes, perennialism, and ecumenism. Interesting. So I
have a whole lecture through the Graciana book. You can
go find that on my channel. Also side note, the
Paul Williams book is great, but if you're looking for
a more academic text, because Paul Williams wrote his book
to be I think readable by a large audience. And
even though it is more readable than this book, it
is dense. I mean I took notes on every single page.
Every page has a sticky note, so it will take
a long time. It is a lot of information to process.
But it's written even still for a mass readership. This
book has written a little more for an academic audience,
and it is apparently a PhD thesis, And it's Daniel
Ganzer's book, NATO's Secret Armies, Operation Gladio and Terror in
Western Europe. And there's a lot of the information that's
in Williams book will also be in this book. For example,
sections on William Coleby, sections on Opus Day, sections on Kissinger,
sections on the Mafia, Lucky Luciano, all that stuff. Even
a section that sounds I mean, I don't know that
my uncle did this, but the section the chapter on
Turkey actually makes sense with the timeline of when my
uncle would have been doing these missions out of Turkey
against the Soviets, So I think that it might be.
I'll give you an example, he says, at the end
of the Second World War, the main probably of the
United States in regard to Turkey was to integrate the
country solidly within the Western anti Communist defense. Due to
its geographic location, Turkey was highly valuable as a strategic territory,
but during and after the Cold War it functioned as
a important balcony for the US and NATO operations in
the oil countries of the Middle East and the Caucasus region,
most prominently during the Second Gulf War into the nineteen nineties. Furthermore,
the country represented the most eastern land post of NATO
during the Cold War. Nobody else, not even Norway, was
closer to Moscow, and hence Turkey was equipped with high
tech gear and was used as a listening post. And
that's exactly what my uncle was doing for Air Force
intelligence during the Cold War. Now it doesn't mention my uncle,
I'm deciding that seems like that's probably what was going on.
It's the first time I've seen in a book mentioned
the things that they told Matt. My uncle died in
the nineties, so this was like way way way later
that I was told this stuff, but fascinating stuff. I
think this chapter is really fast. But this chapter talks
about the CIA is setting up the MIT, which is
Turkish Secret Service, and of course they did this to
try to, you know, have Turkey on our side during
the Cold War. As it said, CIA sent twenty people
to set up the Turkish MIT and this was pretty
much structured by the nineteen fifties. In fact, twenty thousand
Turks were brought to America and trained from nineteen fifty
to nineteen seventy nine for the CIA to use in
Turkey and also the School of the Americas. This is
fascinating too. Training for the counter guerrilla's secret Army was
carried out across Turkey and numerous places, but also abroad.
P military training centers included schools at Ankara, Bulu, Kyseri,
Buka and Uzmir after nineteen seventy four, also Cyprus in
the Mountain Commando School of Bulu. US special forces including
Green Beret. We're preparing the war in Vietnam. We're preparing
for the war in Vietnam. We're trained together with the
counter guerrillas, selected categorrill officers were instructed in the USA
at the School of Americas, the notorious training center for
the Special Forces Terrace in nineteen forty six, and Panama
had moved in nineteen eighty four to the Fort Benning
US Army Post with eighty five miles southeast of Atlanta, Georgia.
Schools have been set up to train stay behind officers
for sixty thousand Latin American soldiers. That's just crazy, like
these these drills and these training cells, like they train
a lot of people and then send about to do
this stuff. It's more than we know. It's crazy. But
the reason I brought that up was that the School
of America's also played a role in training is she
Hod cells or al Qaeda cells. Allegedly, the School of
America's terror training center in the US was also identical
to the al Qaeda centers of Asama bin Lad in Afghanistan.
As far as methods that were taught were concerned, they
learned how to it's all the same stuff, right, So
in other words, al Qaeda's training is basically identical to
Gladio training at the point, and that's very suggestive that
it's the same trainers right anyway, So that's another text
on this that's more, as we said, academic. It's more
like if you read like military histories, which can be
kind of dry and kind of boring at times. Paul
Williams's book is a lot more exciting. But the game
the book is very relevant key text though overall. Don't
want to stress. I know it's a difficult book, and
we've not lectured through the whole thing. We've lectured through
half of it. But it is an absolutely necessary book.
It's probably one of the most important geopolitical texts that
I've read that I recommend. It's not for everybody. Most
of you are not going to get it, not going
to read it. I've not read it. I've not met
anyone that has read the book. I'm the only person
I know other than David Wimhoff who wrote it it's
actually read it. I'm not saying nobody's said I've never
met a person who's read it because I bring it
up and nobody knows what I'm talking about, even though
I have recommended and promoted it for seven years at least,
and that is I think it has been reprinted by
the way John Courtney Murray Time Life and the American
proposition how to see doctoral warfare program changed the Catholic Church. Now,
this book is not saying that the Cio loone did
everything and changed everything at Vatican two, because it's not
just the CIA. In fact, there were many people and
many interests, including Jewish interests, who had a say at
Vatican two. I don't know if I'll be able to
find this, but way back in my Triad days, there
used to be reference made to Look magazine, which was
a Jewish magazine. And yeah, here it is. You can
find the entire article. I've read the article from the
nineteen sixty six Look magazine how Jews changed Catholic thinking,
And the article is about Jewish lobby and influence that
Vatican too, particularly no Stratate, but not just no Strott.
Also the eventual removal of the Good Friday prayers against
Jews in the Latin Mass, which the Vatican has removed. Now,
where's when tists or any of these people on this topic.
Oh yeah, they don't ever talk about this, do they.
I will say it though Tim Gordon did have a
debate on this. I think Tim Gordon had a debate
with a classical theist. I think they had a debate
on the removal of this perfidious Jews statement. Now you
can go look it up, but you can see that
what I'm talking talking about Israel. Now here's your favorite
Skittles jesuit. He wrote a whole article on it. Now again,
how come to the tradcats and the romanol Why aren't
why aren't the pop apologists Catholic people talking about this?
The Latin Mass Good Friday traditional prayers prayed against the
Jews and said it said something like, perfidious Jews. It's
been years since I've seen this or I thought about this.
Uh it perfidious, that's it. In nineteen fifty nine, John
the twenty third had removed the perfidious Jews postatic in
two it was all redrafted, and I guess they got
rid of heretics and schismatics too. So and why did
they do that? Well in part because of what we
just said with the Look magazine. Also, but it's not
just that, it's it's also the documents like Nostrotte. So
it's not just the Jews, it's also the CIA. It's
also the Rockefellers. There's a lot of interests that wanted
to move and turn the Vatican and its theology and
its giant base for Cold war purposes and long term
other purposes. In fact, there's an entire chapter in wim
Hoff's book about John Courtney Murray in his close relationship
with the Rockefellers