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Speaker 4: Ah yeah, all right, let's fade that music to background.

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Welcome everybody. I thought, given how wild things have been

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in the last week, especially a couple weeks with scandals

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in Rome, and yeah, I'm getting tired of talking about

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the papacy in Roman Catholicism, but it seems like it's

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hard to move on to other subjects when we get

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these pretty insane levels of the next day, it's almost

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the daily scandal. It's not like every week it's like

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what did Francis? What did Leo? What did whoever?

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Speaker 2: Do?

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Speaker 4: Today? So I thought it'd be a perfect time to

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go back into some of the literature and some of

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the evidence and some of the proofs that we've shown

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for many years. But some of those streams are four

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or five six years old, pertaining to the means by

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which the actual intrigue, the historical evidence and proof and

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documentation from multiple Roman Catholic scholars and historians, not orthodox

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conspiracy theorists, but Roman Catholic historians. All right, this song

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was gonna my nerves. I'm all for some of this

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sixties spy chic. That horn is a little mutch dude,

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cryptic shadows. That's what I'm talking about. The question is, then,

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how did this occur? When did it occur? What led

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to where we are? Yeah? I agree. I actually reached

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out to the Tucker producers and I was like, look,

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I'm sure the dude you had on talking about cabal

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or whatever is a nice guy. I was like, but dog,

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I can bring the heat, I can bring the souths.

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I'm your man, a dog, I'm the man. Anyway, I

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am pretty tired. I'm stacked up on coffee. As you

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guys know, the greatest assetic endeavor for me is to

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wake up for church, because I don't like to wake up.

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I have not, nor have I ever been a morning person,

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nor shall I ever be a morning person. And uh,

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morning people couldn't go to Huck as far as I'm concerned.

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I'm just kidding, you could go to hook Gosh, what

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about Joe Rogan? Yeah, I mean just keep saying the

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way to get me on these podcasts is for you

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guys to make a stink and ended up working for

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a crowder, so I'll be I don't know if I'm

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talking to Crowder or just to Gerald. I mean, I'm

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fine either way. But yeah, I went to the church

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that I don't go to that you never seen yet.

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So it seems like as you get older, waking up

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early is not easier. I mean, it sucked when I

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was working a nine to five, you know, so hard

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to get up early. But I don't know, it seemed

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like it was easier because like, when you're nineteen, you

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can drink all night, you know, go to sleep at

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three in the morning and wake up at seven for work.

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So but when you're thirty like me and no longer twenty.

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I heard that Tucker interview fell flat some pop I

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got that pop music illuminati stuff that I could bring

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out some of that classic illuminate confirm. I feel like

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people are just now ripe for all this information. Anyway,

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we're going to talk about a little bit of history,

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and then we're gonna get into some of the intrigue

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and espionage from all this big stack of scholarly books

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that I have next to me that prove the surprisingly

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contentious idea that the state wants to utilize and subvert

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and control the church. What never heard of this? But

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even though it's happened many, many times in Church history.

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If you mentioned this, why what an insane conspiracy theory.

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You're an insane person to think that the State Department

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or the CIA, or any of these intelligence agencies will

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want anything to do with influencing the OCA or the

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Greek Orthodox Archidiosi or Rome. Why would you even? This

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is just crazy? And yet here we are in the

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era of infinity information at our fingertips, and all of

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this is now beyond the pale of I mean, it's beyond.

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be controversial anymore. However, this very idea itself would actually

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cause many people in the Church, many prelates, to treat

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you as an evil Ortho bro. Even though even though

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there's declassified documents the doctrinal warfare program declassified I think

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in twenty thirteen admitting this very fact, even though all

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the Orthodox people know about the Soviets installing in KVD bishops,

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even though we know all this, Oh that's crazy, it

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didn't exist. What now, it's not just intelligence operatives using

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missionary work or being a minister as cover. We have

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to go a little bit higher up on the food

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chain and look at think tanks and foundations and NGOs

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that have a huge influence in the religious world. So

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of things, and that would be you know, things like

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even the massage relationship to the Vatican. Did you know

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there is a relationship there. You know, it's covered in

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Gordon Thomas's book Gideon Spies, or the longtime CA relationship

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with the Vatican, especially going back to William Colby in

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the Cold War in prior to that, James Jesus Angleton

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being at the Rome Desk of the CIA prior to Colby.

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So we're going to get into a lot of that

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again to kind of refresh you guys. And all of

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these will be sourced in mainline, scholarly and academic texts.

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As I look over here, I don't see any of these.

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None of these texts are conspiracy texts. So it will

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all be sourced. I will for the seventh or eighth

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year now remind you which books to get, especially the

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whim Hoff book, which I've been telling everybody to get

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for seven or eight years. I have to think though,

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reading any of these books. I feel like no one

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is actually reading these books, and so I say these

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things after twenty years of reading these books, and people

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laugh and they giggle and they don't but they've never

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read any of these books. They haven't read one fourth

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of the books that I've read on these subjects. But

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they know that I'm wrong, and it's much easier to

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just say hahaha, evil worth overro. So let's start by

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pointing out, yeah, exactly, that's why I do your homework

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for you, guys. Thanks again to our friend in the

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audience who sent us this very rare, very expensive I

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don't think it's actually worth over two thousand dollars, but

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it goes on Amazon for two thousand dollars. The hard

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bat changing images of Man. Look at that goes for

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two thousand dollars plus. It's tempting to tell it and

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get big coin, bit of course it's not. No one

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is going to pay two thousand dollars just because here's

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a funny thing. I opened it up, and in the

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entire exist of this book from nineteen eighty two until now,

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when this university library. I guess discarded. And if you

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don't know, in libraries, when a book gets old, they'll

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just stamp it with discarded and then throw it out.

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They don't even realize that this goes for two thousand dollars,

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although no one will ever buy a two thousand dollars

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Changing Images of Man book in from nineteen eighty two

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until now, how many times do you think someone checked

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out this very crucial, key global elite text. I want

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you guys to guess how many people Now this is,

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of course a Stanford Research Institute global elitist text that

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was actually a textbook for it looks like grad school.

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analysis textbook. It says at the beginning it was a textbook,

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so I'm assuming it means for high level international relations

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or sociology. Most of you say three or two. You

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are correct. It is two. In the decades of existence,

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two people checked out Changing Images of Man in that

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entire time, two two people. Now, before I owned my

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own copy of Tragedy and Hope, my university library had

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a copy of Tragedy and Hope, I checked it out.

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and Hope two. So even in the university sphere, no

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one is checking out these books. Seventeen, it wasn't seventeen.

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That was like three counting me. And by the way,

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I am about forty pages in and it's going to

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be a good one. This music is a little watch man.

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It is not exactly what I expected, because I read

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a little bit of this ten years ago, you know,

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with the PDF when I first heard about it online,

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and I was like, this looks like it will be interesting.

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is not what I expected it to be. It's a

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little more focused on perennialism and mystical philosophy than I expected.

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isn't what I really expected this to be about. In

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the first forty or fifty pages, I mean, it mentions

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actual members of perennial philosophy. It mentions, you know, Alvis

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Huxley's perennial philosophy. It mentions a Queeran conspiracy. It mentions

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the wholeons Idea from Freed, the of Copra, and from

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Ghost of the Machine, all of which are key global

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elite texts that we have covered over the years. So

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it's going to be a very fascinating analysis and it

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will be another one of these great example texts that

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show the future is planned and the future is steered,

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and it's planned and steered. In regard to what this

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book is talking about through high level academia, the majority

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of this book is focusing on indoctrinating the intelligencia class,

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the people that are getting their PhDs in you know,

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systems analysis, international relations, social sciences. It's from a high

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tier academic press, Pergamon Press. We have people like Willis Harmon,

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Joseph Campbell our key figures in this as well as

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youngkom Up as well. At some point Ernest Laslow is

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also important here. So what we get when we look

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indoctrinated the high level elite boomers that rule today. So

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you understand that boomers that we're getting their PhD back

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in the early eighties are really the ones running things now,

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even though they're beginning to get older and sort of

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retire and whatnot. This is the kind of textbook that

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they would be reading, right, people studying at the Kissinger

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Chair or something like that to have the next place

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after Kissinger in the establishment. And there actually is such

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thing as a Kissinger chair. I think it's a University

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of Chicago or somewhere. But so you know, this is

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up there with between two ages by Brazenski. It's that

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kind of a book. Patriarch Mark says that Pergramat Press

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was actually a Robert Maxwell. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah,

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so what McMillan Publishers or whatever it was that was

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owned by it, says Maxwell House. So you're right, it

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says Pergamont Press, Maxwell House, New York, exactly right. And

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the book is from Uthont, who was the Secretary General

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of the United Nations, and he says the very beginning

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that the entire purpose of this book, or assume me

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that the entire purpose of the United Nations and everything

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we're all about is global government and depopulation. That's it says,

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we have these goals global partnership, global disarmament, and disarmament

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doesn't just mean nukes and the government. It means you

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also not having self defense. It means fabian socialism and

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mass depopulation in whatever ways, in whatever forms. That's what

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it means. Man. And remember, population control is not just

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sterilization in babies. That's part of it. Population control also

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means literal control of the population. Hence why already within

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the first forty pages of this book there were multiple

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mentions of the coming socialist technocracy electrodes implants, microchips, and

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techniques and strategies for depopulation, so all at the very beginning.

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was that they actually highlight how important religion will be.

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to be something akin to New Age and Far Eastern

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religious concepts, So the continuation of the sixties counterculture New

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sphere to train people into things like being dinks, being neotonous,

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being arrested, development, etc. It actually says this in order

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that the population growth be curved. They also cite Jonah

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Salk Survival The Wisest, which I've lectured through that entire

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book as well. So all of the Global Elite texts

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a Man. So it's going to be a great one.

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Global Elite series, and I'm so glad to have a

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to until in Divine Providence I was given a hard copy.

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So again, thank you to the guy who sent that.

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Shout out to that dude. All Right, so we're going

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to get back into some of the classics about the

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Vatican and the geopolitical side of things that we've covered many,

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many times. But as we say, it has been many years.

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I want to remind you that the course that the

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Vatican took, you can't isolate this to the twentieth century

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or to the liberalism of the time. Of Gregory the

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sixteenth and marari Vas or any of these papal texts.

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The liberalism from the Orthodox perspective actually goes back to

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the papacy being the original Protestantism. And the reason that

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we say the papacy is the original Protestantism is because

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the church abandoned in Rome, abandoned the earlier sonodal collegials

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structure that Rome now admits was the structure of the

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Church of the first thousand years. If you read the

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Chi eighty document, as you've heard us point out many times,

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which is a Vatican approved document on the Eastern model

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of the Church, it admits that the Bishop of Rome

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did not have unilateral universal jurisdiction in the first millennium.

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That's a massive admission that Orthodox have complained about and

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critiqued for a millennium. So what happened though when Rome

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went in this direction, Well, it sort of necessarily fell

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into a kind of geopolitical world power structure. And it's

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not just the greed of the popes or something like

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that that led to that. That's part of it. But

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we also have to understand that there were historical factors

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the fall of Rome to the barbarians in four hundred

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and four to ten, the rise of the prominence of

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the Bishop of Rome to also be a kind of

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a cultural hegemony at the time, the rise of the

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papal states, the rise of these things which contributed to

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the ever growing worldly geopolitical prestige of the Bishop of Rome. Now,

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from the Orthodox perspective, we didn't suddenly decide to just

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break communion in ten fifty four or whenever, just willy nilly.

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From our vantage point, the papacy, after many, many centuries,

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and I'll use the Gavin Ortland term, began to have

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accretions when it came to their own view of themselves.

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So what was originally from our perspective, you see this

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in the Canons of Nicea, for example, Canon six a

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first among equals relationship, or in the Canons of Sartika,

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for example, a first among equals with an appleate structure

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where you could ask for a retrial, none of which

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is the vat one model of a unilateral autocratic Roma.

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Spoken cases closed, right, So maybe I need to remind

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you all again of this because this always gets forgotten

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and Roman Catholics just do not read their documents. They

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just assume what Roman Catholic dogmatic theology is from whatever gibbering,

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yapping pap apologists they hear on the internet and they

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repeat it like a bunch of minor birds and chirping goobers,

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when in fact it says very clearly in their own

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documents that appeals in the appellate structure, this is the

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Canons of Sartica that they like to appeal to, was

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not a unilateral Bishop of Rome decides what's right. In fact,

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the appellate structure allowed for the Bishop of Rome to,

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if he deemed it appropriate, order a retrial to be

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conducted in Rome. No, no, no, in that bishop's province.

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So you see this is nothing like the claims of

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the vatican I apologists. And that's why you'll see me

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referring to the documents that the Roman Catholics never refer to.

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They don't go to their documents. They give you this spill,

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this bad car salesman pitch, but they don't go to

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their documents. You'll notice there that it's not just Rome

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that had an appleate structure. You could actually appeal to

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other seas as well that were important, such as Constantinople.

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See that right there. Appeals regarding disciplinary matters were also

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made to Constantinople and to other seas, so it wasn't

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even a unilateral only to Rome thing. They were always

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treated in a whatnodal way, not unilateral autocratic way. And

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what's the last line. The Bishop of Rome did not

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exercise canonical authority over the churches of the East in

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the first mining. That is contrary to all of Vatican

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one's claims. So from our perspective, what happens is that

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Rome doesn't overnight go bad. It wasn't there from the beginning.

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Over many centuries, the Roman Sea's view of itself grew

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into a position that was eventually untenable by the East.

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That's our position. Now, another really well done introductory book

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on this is Two Paths by Michael Welton. But if

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you go to the chapter that most concerns us today,

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and this is chapter five, you'll note that Michael Welton's

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chapter five is about the Gregorian Revolution and the deeper

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that you go into the Gregorian Revolution in this period.

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I read several books just on this period. This is

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not me just picking this. I'm telling you that this

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is an orthodox book that is summarizing what you will

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find in the academic literature, and even Roman Catholic academic

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literature from Dvornik or Kongar basically admits most of these points. Now,

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in the eleventh century, in what's called called the Gregorian

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Reform or the if you're Orthodox, the Gregorian Revolution, the

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papacy took on openly, massive, explicit geopolitical world power. Now,

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keep in mind in the Canons of Chalcedon, it is

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forbidden for clerics to also have a role in the

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civil state. And I have to talk very slow because

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every time I talked to Roman Catholics about this and

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we just got they cannot understand this. When I talk

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about Unham sanctum, they get lost. They don't understand what

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it is I'm saying. So I'm going to be very clear.

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Hopefully this is where it becomes a geopolitical secular power.

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So let's take the two powers model, church and state.

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The state pertains to the things of the body, to

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this life, to justice, to the death penalty, to war,

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et cetera. The church deals with things of the spirit,

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the soul, the inn man. Right, So there's a body

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soul relationship that's often used of the two powers idea,

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the temporal earthly power and the spiritual heavenly power. Due

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to the papal forgeries in part and the claims of

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the Gregorian papacy, the argument began to be made that,

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especially in Dictatus pope As you know, because the Pope

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is the head of the Church, that makes him also

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the head of the temporal bodily world as well. So

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he's the head of both church and state. And thus

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you must confess this doctrine of the Pope being also

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a world leader, a geopolitical world power to be saved.

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That is Unum sanctum. And the last paragraph of Unam

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Sanctum is about this issue. Not only must you confess

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the pope as the head of the spiritual power, you

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must also confess the pope as the head of all

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kings and emperors and a world emperor power to be saved.

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And if you don't, you are not in convenient with

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the Roman pontiff, and you cannot be saved. Clear as

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day now, Unam Sanctum is written by Boniface the Eighth

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in thirteen oh two, so this is actually a few

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centuries after Dictatus pope h, which says essentially the same

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thing in what year is dictats Poppa? Let's see.

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Speaker 3: Mh.

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Speaker 4: This is really annoying because this used to always come

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up first, and now it doesn't come.

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Speaker 3: Up when I want it.

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Speaker 4: It's just really annoying. Any this is it ten ninety Okay?

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So between ten ninety when this is first stated as

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far as we know in the Papal registry, and then

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explicitly formulated and mandated by thirteen oh two, it's made

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abundantly clear that this is necessary for salvation. And remember,

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as we've shown in the debates and in the recent videos,

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this is repeated all the way up into the Syllabus

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of Errors and the Vatican one Pious, the Ninth Documents,

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they repeat that you also still have to believe in

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the temporal supremacy of the Roman Bishop to be saved.

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It cannot go away. It's not a flexible doctrine. Now

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post Vatican two, this has all been explicitly discarded. In fact,

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the papacy has worked to decatholicize Christian states and everybody

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knows about this. Even Benedicted participated in this. So you

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essentially have the rejection of the medieval doctrine, the medieval

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Latin papal doctrine of the temporal supremacy of the Roman bishop.

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But what also happens during this period that are going

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reforms that most people are not aware of unless you've

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read this history, is that you have one hundred and

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sixty four years of Germanic control of the papacy, including

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twenty one of twenty five popes during this century or

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two centuries, almost appointed by the German crown. Did you

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hear that? So it's preposterous and dishonest when Roman Catholics

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treat Orthodox as subservient to the state, where Cesero papists,

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where Erastians, no, no, no, You had almost two centuries

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where literally German kings appointed twenty one of the twenty

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five popes. The ninth is the first pope to openly

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go into warfare, into battle, the first pope to personally

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go to war, to call for a standing army to

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go to war to be conducted against the Normans, ending

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in his ending a disaster with him being taken prisoner.

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The spectacle of priests, bishops, monks, all bearing arms and swords,

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shedding blood came as a shock to the Byzantines because

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the Byzantines understood that that's not the role of the church,

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that's the role of the state. The Christian state has

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that significance in that that's the two headed eagle, and

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now we have the church side of the two headed

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eagle putting on the temporal crown. This is also the

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period when we first get holy monks that can fight

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warrior monks. There have never been warrior monks prior to this. Okay,

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there's a great chapter on this in another excellent book

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that I recommend, The Christian East and the Rise of

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the Papacy ten seventy one to fourteen fifty three by

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Papa Doccus and Mayandorf. It's a great book, excellent chapters

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on particularly the templars and the rise of the monastic knights.

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Who would fight? Now, are you thinking, let's think about

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this in a practical mode of thought. Here, we've never

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had this before. The papacy decides it's going to have

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warrior monks. Who do you think the warrior monks are

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loyal to and fight for the papacy. So he's creating

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his own army. All of the these new weird monastic

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orders pop up precisely in this Gregorian and post Gregorian period.

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This is page fifty nine of the amazing magisterial Papa

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Doocus Mayandorff History text. And what propped this up, according

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to pages fifty ten fifty three, was the prevalence of

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the forgeries, which George just wrote a two volume book about.

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Volume two is about the forgeries. You can get that

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at Uncut Mountain. Now where did the Leo the ninth

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garner the idea, the belief that he could go into

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war with warrior monks and monastics. Oh, dick Tatus Pope.

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Did you know that? No, the place that he cited actually,

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according page is forty eight forty nine Dick Toadus Poppy.

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Now remember, I know Roman Catholics are ignorant of this.

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They don't have no idea what ancient Canon's taught. But

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in the ancient Canons, even in Chalcidon, etc. You can't

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be a monk and go into war. You can't be

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a priest and fight. It doesn't mean that the state

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can't defend the church, but the church doesn't take up

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the role of the state. You gubers, Now where do

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we get this idea from? Did you know this is

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actually a biblical principle outside of a few exceptions with

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David and Solomon, and I would argue that's due to

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their prophetic role picturing and imaging Christ. Outside of those exceptions,

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what happens when Saul offers sacrifices at the altar? Oh

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Samuel rebukes him. In other words, the king doesn't come

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in and do what the high priest does. The king

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isn't the levite in the New Testament, the king is

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a type of diaconos. Paul calls the ruler the emperor,

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a diaconos who bears the sword for justice. That's the

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death penalty idiots. Then there's a two roll twofold two

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role power, which is symbolized by the Byzantine eagle. The

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church has a spiritual authority to pronounce excommunication and banning

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from the table, from the Eucharist, etc. And in some

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cases the Church might hand people over to the civil state.

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But the Church doesn't grab a sword and lock people's

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heads off, except in the medieval papal system they do.

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That's where it goes. In other words, this alone, if

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you understand this and understand the attitude of the role

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of the church and the state that the Orthodox Catholic

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Church of the first millennium had towards itself, it limited

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itself to not have a secular role. In fact, on

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pages forty four and forty five, this whole idea of

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a secular state comes out of the papacy attempting to

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take power in the state. If you had Christian rulers,

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there would be no need for this, And on page

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thirty eight and thirty nine they point out that the

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papacy originally rejected this idea of the Eastern canonical approach

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so that it could have standing armies and go to war.

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Now I might let me make sure I didn't get

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this wrong. Let me let me let me state this

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right from the outset. Leo the ninth was determined to

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make the papacy an instrument of spiritual and moral rejuvenation

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in Rome and throughout Europe. To this end, Leo journeyed

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to the central and south of Italy, but also to

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France and Germany and across the Alps three times. Nearly

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four and a half years of his five year pontificate

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were in fact spent outside of Rome. The numerous regional

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reforming synods held during this period of lengthy sojourns often

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had as their target the traffic and ecclesiastical offices and

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unchased clergy. So the motivation wasn't just power. They did

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want to reform the lax state of the clergy in

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the Roman jurisdiction. Their object was to rid the Church

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of abuses by restoring canonical discipline. The need to reassert

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about the validity and the binding power of canon law

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for all clergy was repeatedly emphasized. However, this is not

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Eastern canon law but papal law. Oh well, that all

480
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sounds good. So where's the problem. Well, here we go.

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This is where this becomes problematic. The attempt was to

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originally decree canons against simony, sexual laxity amongst the clergy,

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sexual laxity in local synods and how they ruled. And

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many priests at this time had concubines. Many were suspended,

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deposed and excommunicated. The object, in short, was to punish

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all the offenders, and even if the synods were not

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always successful, no one doubted that Leo the ninth and

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his team of like maned assistants were serious in their reforms. However,

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after all, to say it once more, the papacy until

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then had no sense of itself as an international body

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that had responsibilities for the entire world beyond the Alps,

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and for Christian Christian Europe as a whole as confining

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history as its confining history during the post Carolinian age

494
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illustrates Rome, until this time had rarely interfered outside of Italy. Now,

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how is Vatican won true if that's the case. By contrast,

496
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in ten forty nine, it was being extolled as the

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undisputed center of all of Latin Christendom, the supreme, divinely

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ordained authority of the Church universal. If anything, papal activism

499
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forced Europe to take notice. The Church of Rome was

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thus on the threshold of an entirely new age. Pope

501
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,440
Leo effect transformed them into an immediate principal councilor of

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advisors known as the cardinals. This is where we get

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the office of the cardinal, which there was no cardinals

504
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in the first millennium of Christianity. By the way, So,

505
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by the way, if you want to understand like the

506
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fact that this is a totally different church, just look

507
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at the cardinals who Leo the Ninth just creates right

508
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by decree in ten fifty nine, the cardinal bishops when

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in fact be honored with metropolitan authority and choose the

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election of a new pope. Now, Ron mccalliy said, well,

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the pope can do whatever he wants, so who cares? Interesting,

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So the pope can do whatever he wants. Who cares?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: But actually, nowadays the pope's held by tradition. He can't

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do whatever. So it's not somebody clear exactly how the

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pope can do whatever he wants. But he's also not

517
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able to do what ever he wants. Oh, he's biled

518
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by tradition. This is also the period where the Roman

519
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Church universally begins to mandate celibacy for all the clergy.

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Even though they had already waffled on Trollo's allowing for

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married clergy, this was the period when they began to

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enforce it. The first cardinal election was ten fifty nine.

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And by the way, I think I got it backwards,

524
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it's actually Leo the ninth who's first. He's Gregory the

525
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seventh before Gregory the seventh. So it's it's Leo the

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ninth that goes to war and has all the principles

527
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that Gregory the seventh then puts into Dictatus pape so

528
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I got that. I think I got that backwards. Part

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of the controversy, by the way, side note that led

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to the rise of the authority on the part of

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the Bishop of Rome in terms of claims for himself

532
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,760
was the controversy between Gregory the seventh and Henry the third.

533
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And if I recall, this is the I'm going for. Remember,

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but I think I think he imprisoned the pope and

535
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then in response the pope got out and then made

536
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him like stand outside in the snow to repent or whatever.

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And so this is what led the pope to say, Aha, see,

538
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I have to be above all the world rulers or

539
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they will imprison me. So this is his rationale. So yeah,

540
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So it's Leo the knights beliefs that lead to Gregory

541
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the seventh principles listed in Dictatus Pape and that's covered

542
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on pages forty eight and forty nine of this book.

543
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And of course after this is this period. By the way,

544
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let's see, the first time the word vicar of Christ

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is ever used is this period, and that's admitted by Kongar.

546
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So this is page fifty. No one had ever used

547
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this term vicar of Christ. Although I take that back.

548
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,719
According to Papadacus, the term Vicar of Christ was actually

549
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used for the emperor, and then it becomes the title

550
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for the pope uses in the West. So when Roman

551
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Catholics use the phrase vicar of Christ, you can point

552
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,440
out to them, Oh, you mean the same term that

553
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,920
was used for the emperor prior to ten fifty nine. Yeah,

554
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,159
when was it ever used prior to ten fifty nine

555
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for the Roman bishop. By the end of the century,

556
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Pope Innocent the third was already discarding the formula representative

557
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or vicar of Peter, and now he used the term

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Vicar of Christ. The text goes on to talk about

559
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the forgeries being a key to this period, and it

560
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was actually the entire Eastern Church which was the basis

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for Dictatus Pope itself. Dictatus popy is directed against the

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Eastern Church. Then we get the new weird monastic fighting orders.

563
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Who are the agents that prop up the new papacy?

564
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Does that not make a lot of sense? We get

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Bernard of Clairvaux, we get the templars, we get the hospitalers,

566
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the papal assassins of this period, and it will based

567
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:17,119
trad Notice how they don't even care that the very

568
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,679
rise of a papacy with a sword undercuts the notion

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of a Christian state. They don't even realize that this

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undoes the very thing that they think is based in

571
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trad a Christian state, because it's no longer a duty

572
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,880
and a role of a Christian king or emperor. It's

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now the role of the head of the Church, the

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spiritual power. So it's confusing the spheres of authority and

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power again. Leo the Ninth first pope to personally go

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to war. This is a new revolutionary order, and in

577
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fact it is these claims and reforms in part that

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spawn the Protestant Reformation. So far from Roman Catholics blaming

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everybody else for this and Luther and this, and that,

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they have only to blame themselves for the nonsense of

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Dictata's pape, Leo the Ninth and warrior monks now, to

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be precise, in terms of this triple crown, as you know,

583
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the papal tirra or triple crown, was supposed to signify

584
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:58,880
the triplicity of authority, that the pope has right in heaven,

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on earth, and under the earth, and that he's above

586
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,760
all the state rulers as well. John Paul the second,

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Excuse me, John Paul the First was the first pope

588
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to reject receiving the papal tiara, again showing you that

589
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the Vatican two popes have rejected the notion of the

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Christian state. That's why Vatican two is nothing about the

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00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,360
Christian state and all about freedom of conscience, freedom of worship,

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of private interpretation, all that stuff. Now I mean when

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I say private interpretation, I'm talking about the right of

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00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,519
the conscience of the individual and all that which prior

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00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:52,000
to that is condemned many times over in many papal documents. Oh,

596
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,599
by the way, when Leo the ninth was challenged on

597
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,920
why he could go to war and why he could

598
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,239
have vast landholdings, guess what he cited as his basis.

599
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,880
You got it, the donation of Constantine, the infamous universally

600
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:34,400
admitted forgery. M Now, it's funny too that after this

601
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:45,599
period is the first the first discussion of the paper

602
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:47,719
the Here's an interesting question that you never hear of

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00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,239
the Roman Catholics raise when is the first mention of

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infallibility for the Bishop of Roman. Does anybody know it's explicit,

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00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,800
like an explicit referen as to the infallibility of the

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00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,360
Bishop of Rome. Now, if this was always the teaching

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of the church, presumably it would have been in the

608
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first thousand years. But no, it turns out there's not

609
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:19,920
a mention of this in the first thousand years. Well,

610
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:26,000
when was the first mention of papal infallibility, specifically of

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Historian Brian Tierney has shown that papal infallibility itself did

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not develop slowly, but was created by members of the

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Franciscan order at the end of the thirteenth century because

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it suited their convenience to invent this doctrine. Pope John

615
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,239
the twenty second attacked their doctrine of evangelical poverty, and

616
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in thirteen twenty four, John the twenty second actually condemned

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papal infallibility as a novel. He also got in trouble

618
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for other doctrines, and he's one of the popes that

619
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,519
Roman Catholics will argue over as to whether he actually

620
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:19,119
taught heresy anyway, regardless, John the twenty second was, he says,

621
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,599
the Franciscan leaders defended the cherished papal bull on the

622
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:26,039
grounds that it was irreformable and it's very irreformability logically

623
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:29,360
presupposed papal and fallibility. John the twenty second, however, was

624
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,199
not interested in personal papal and fallibility. For him, infallibility

625
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,159
would place him in a straight jacket, limiting his powers

626
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,960
and thus limiting the reigning ponted by the infallible declaration

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of every predecessor. March of thirteen twenty two, John the

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,239
twenty second issued the Bull Extravagantes, in which he maintained

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00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,880
the right of a reigning pope's right to annul any

630
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,719
of the decrees and judgments of his predecessors. So this

631
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,840
is fascinating because John the twenties this is Think about

632
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,679
how crazy this is. John the twenty second doesn't want

633
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,880
to admit papal infallibility because the Franciscans are saying there

634
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,280
has to be papal and fallibility, because that would make

635
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,519
John the twenty second bound by his predecessors. John twenty

636
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,719
second is saying, I am not bound by my predecessors,

637
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,679
and that's there isn't papal infallibility, because I can thus

638
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:28,920
a null or create judgments against or for my predecessors.

639
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:39,599
This is so goofy. In thirteen twenty four, he issues

640
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:46,480
another bull called quia quirndum quarundom, in which he preempt

641
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:55,960
contemptuously proclaims that papal irreformability and infallibility is a pernicious

642
00:57:56,039 --> 00:58:01,119
audacity that the Father of lies has led the Franciscans

643
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to declare. Now, let's here's a great quote from normy

644
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:18,119
papal apologists, just to show you how dishonest and ignorant

645
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:23,840
they are. This is from uh who is this? Radio

646
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,000
replies by Leslie Rumble and Charles Cardi, Roman Catholic writers.

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00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:34,320
They this is what they say before the definition of

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00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,920
papal infallibility in eighteen seventy, the popes did not know

649
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:42,280
that they were infallible with the same clarity as Slater popes.

650
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,880
But they were infallible. So papal infallibility was there, just

651
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,760
nobody knew about it. But they still had it. It

652
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,239
was there, but they didn't even know. This thing is

653
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,679
how stupid this position. This is actual romancalic apology. This

654
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:02,840
is tan books papal apologetics. I mean talk about smoke

655
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,519
and mirrors and just it's just crazy, dude, it's a

656
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:14,960
crazy funhouse. Well, you may be familiar with this period

657
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:21,079
because this is also when we get the great Schism

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of the West, and why would we even have the

659
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,519
great Schism of the West if it were not the

660
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:34,000
papacy directly wrapped up in geopolitical power. Because we get

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00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:37,559
three claimants to the See of Rome, the See of

662
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:44,000
Rome eventually gets solved in terms of its claimant through

663
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:49,760
guess what an ecumenical council. So imagine trying to think

664
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,400
that the Council of Constance which decided which pope would

665
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,960
be the pope. But at the same time, according to

666
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:02,639
Vatican One, your dogma is that no pope is above

667
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:05,719
a council. I mean you mean no councils are a

668
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:17,519
spirit of popes. In fact, when anti Pope John resigned

669
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:21,519
and the Council of Constance said that it would be

670
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:24,559
Pope Martin that would be chosen as the legitimate Pope,

671
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,400
Pope Martin wrote inter Cunctas which said that no one

672
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:34,559
is superior to an ecumenical Council of the Church, which

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01:00:34,639 --> 01:00:46,239
is the head of the church. That's inter cunctas of

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,199
Pope Martin. Well, it's not infallible, doesn't accept it. Yeah,

675
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,559
it's only infallible when you agree with it, and when

676
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:57,559
the popes do something wrong or contradict, suddenly it's not infallible,

677
01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:01,679
which means essentially that it's a worthless system. It's like

678
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
a Protestant saying the verse means what I wanted to

679
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,440
mean when I like it, and if you ciite a

680
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:10,599
verse against me, it doesn't mean that. So Roman Catholics

681
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:16,199
are Protestant explos they're the first Protestants. Now in terms

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01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:21,679
of religious liberty, we already listed in multiple livestreams all

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,480
the condemnations of religious liberty, and yet it is the

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most important thing, one of the most important things. Throughout

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01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:34,840
Vatican two Impact there's an entire document on how crucial

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religious liberty is, even though it was condemned, and even

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though if you go back to the Fourth Latteran Council,

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01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:56,920
anyone who would not exterminate heretics was excommunicated. So kings

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,039
at the Fourth Lattering Council who will not germinate heretics

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01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:05,639
are excommunicated. Fast forward to Vaticantu in nineteen sixty five.

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Religious liberty and freedom of conscience and freedom of worship

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01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:12,559
are fundamental human rights, guaranteed every work to everyone at

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01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:16,679
all times. I mean, this is a joke. This thing

694
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,599
is actually a ridiculous joke, and they just can't accept it.

695
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:28,320
It's so earth shattering and frightening that they can't accept that.

696
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:39,039
So that's the background of the geopolitical situation that the

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papers they found itself in throughout these centuries. And I'm

698
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,960
sure we all know about the Renaissance papacy with the

699
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:48,440
medicis and all that kind of stuff and Alexander the

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01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:53,920
Six And if you've ever watched Jeremy Irons playing the Borgias,

701
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,440
that's actually a good series. You get another insight into

702
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:07,239
the insane, preposterous levels of worldliness during that period. Which

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it's not a moral critique. I understand that plenty of

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Orthodox bishops throughout the world have been luxurious and corrupt

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and all that. So the argument here is not about

706
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:24,440
moral corruption or impeccability. The argument is about a doctrinal change,

707
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:28,920
an ecclesiastical change in the structure of the church and

708
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,760
in the doctrines of the church, to say that the

709
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,880
pope can now have standing armies, go to war, excommunicate

710
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:40,840
entire nations when their kings don't go to war for

711
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,920
them to fill the papal coffers. And it's these things

712
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:49,639
in part that led to the Reformation. That doesn't mean

713
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:53,400
the Reformation doctrines are good, but the critiques of the

714
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,719
reformers are not without substantial basis. That's the point. By

715
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,039
the way, guys, welcome, We got over a thousand people.

716
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:03,119
Nobody's sent a super chat. I want to support the stream,

717
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:06,760
you can do so through superchats. I don't read all

718
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,239
these books for free. If you want to support the stream,

719
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,760
you can do so by super chatting through stream labs.

720
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,679
Stream labs doesn't take a cut, but you can also

721
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,599
send a super chat natively through YouTube as well. So

722
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:25,840
great books there so far. Let's talk about just a

723
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,800
couple pointers from history that are relevant as well. Obviously

724
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,039
we can't go through all of history here, but everyone

725
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,800
should read diktatas pape if you've never read it, and

726
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,800
then you should go and read the one page doctrine

727
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:41,079
a document. When I'm saying to them, hopefully you can

728
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:42,960
read one page. It's not too much of a strain

729
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:50,599
on you, guys. And also, yeah, so in nineteen oh six,

730
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:56,079
the Jewish Encyclopedia had a fascinating intro which I've read

731
01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:59,079
for years that and I couldn't find it though, but

732
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,639
it is being pl up here via Gemini, so it

733
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,079
is accurate, even though I can't find the actual Jewish

734
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:08,599
psocrapedia reference, so I think it's just under the Rothchilds.

735
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,239
It points out that the Rothchilds have been the guardians

736
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,880
of the Papal treasury. Interesting, and this goes back for

737
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:18,800
many centuries. I think to the seventeen hundreds is when

738
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,199
they were given this title. And if you look up

739
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,119
Rathchild loans to the Holy See, you will find that

740
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,800
there have been many of these over the centuries, well,

741
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,360
mainly over the last couple centuries.

742
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:31,559
Speaker 3: Right.

743
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: In fact, the Vatican Bank itself comes out of this

744
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,360
whole management structure of the Rothchild family being the bankers

745
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,559
to and for the Holy See. This relationship was a

746
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:52,119
notable aspect of the Rothchild's family's extensive involvement in European

747
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,880
finance throughout the seventh century. Let's see if we can

748
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,440
find it here in the Jews. Executy. Oh, look, there

749
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:14,159
we go two million francs in eighteen forty five to

750
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,159
the Papal states.

751
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: Right there.

752
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: Now there's more than one. Here's sixteen million francs to

753
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,840
the Papal States in eighteen thirty one. These are loans

754
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:47,559
the guardians of the papal treasure. There So who are

755
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:49,760
the guardians of the papal treasure? According to the Jewish

756
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:56,440
encyclopedia the Rothschralds, And even here it lists the papal

757
01:06:56,519 --> 01:07:06,239
states as the receivers of at least two massive loans

758
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:12,960
from the French Rothchild's sixty million francs. Two million francs.

759
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:22,440
That's just two of them. Here's another one for four

760
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:28,440
hundred pounds that must be from the British Childs. Now

761
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,639
why are we bringing that up. Well, because a lot

762
01:07:33,679 --> 01:07:36,920
of people argue and try to give the impression that, oh,

763
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,800
the corruption that we see or the problems that we see,

764
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:44,039
that these are the liberals of Vatican two, the liberalism

765
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:49,679
of Vatican two. Well, if you're aware of medieval church history,

766
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:53,119
you already can see can see that. It's not a

767
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:56,760
question of can I link it. You can't go to

768
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,719
the Jewish encyclopedia and just look up Rothchild for yourselves.

769
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:11,519
You goes that lazy. It's not a question of the

770
01:08:11,639 --> 01:08:14,079
liberalism of the nineteen sixties. I mean, that's a role

771
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:18,800
that plays a role in it. But what we're illustrating here.

772
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,640
What we're pointing out is the centuries of problems and

773
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:31,000
corruption stemming from what stemming from dogmatic change and contradiction

774
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:36,000
stemming from an alteration after ten fifty four that the

775
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:39,039
papacy itself admits was not the structure of the church

776
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:41,960
for the first thousand years, and it begins to be

777
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:51,479
a cardinalate, imperial banking structure, a corporate structure, and there's

778
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,920
actually books been written about modern corporations are actually modeled

779
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,800
on the structure of the Vatican. Hey, Jamie, when you

780
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,199
got a chance because you made me an express so

781
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:13,239
well you hear me, thank you. So the original business

782
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:19,239
church is actually the papacy. Let me give you an

783
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:22,359
example from another book that we've not really gotten to yet.

784
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:24,960
I've only read a little bit of it. As you

785
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,439
guys know, we did do a recent talk from Paul

786
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,520
Williams's book on the history of al Qaeda. We also

787
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,640
did some years back the entirety of Paul Williams's Operation Gladio.

788
01:09:37,079 --> 01:09:39,640
And it turns out he has another book on the

789
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:46,079
Vatican Bank and its background in history. And I'm not

790
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,359
lectured through this book yet. But again, Paulliams is a

791
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:56,039
mainline Catholic historian and professor who consulted with the FBI

792
01:09:56,199 --> 01:09:58,640
for many years. So he's not in any way a

793
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,039
conspiracy theorist, and he's very much an accepted establishment kind

794
01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:09,600
of you know, Catholic personage. But he notes that the

795
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,359
reason for the establishment of the Vatican Bank was, as

796
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:15,880
we've seen, the most secretive bank in the world that

797
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,159
has never been audited, and thus, as a sovereign bank

798
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,840
in a sovereign state, because the Vatican is its own

799
01:10:23,279 --> 01:10:30,399
city state, it becomes a perfect means and method for

800
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,800
money laundering and black ops and the funding of illicit

801
01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:39,760
things and lo and behold, it has always been involved

802
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,399
in those things, and many of these scandals have come out.

803
01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:46,039
You may or may not have heard this. It's the

804
01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:48,600
Vatican Bank scandals many of the In fact, there have

805
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,520
been recent Vatican Bank scandals, but there were Vatican Bank

806
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,840
scandals in the sixties and seventies tied to Gladio and

807
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,560
the mafia that are very well known. I'm not going

808
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:05,039
to reheard, but if you would like a decent documentary

809
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:09,640
that gets into Bishop Marcinkus, the Banco Dembrosio UH and

810
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:14,239
Leccio Gelli Head La Mafia and Roberto Kalvi being killed

811
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:18,319
and assassinated as a result of all this. There are

812
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,479
good documentaries that have been around for a long time,

813
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,399
and you don't have to thus read all these long books.

814
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:38,319
Let's see, you know what, I might actually this might

815
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:43,239
be better on just a little hint here. If you're

816
01:11:43,319 --> 01:11:48,920
looking for older, classic kind of documentaries, stuff that doesn't

817
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,800
pop up anymore, just use yandex and almost always comes

818
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,079
up on yandex. Look at that right there, right away.

819
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,439
I think this is it. Yeah, this is it, this

820
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,479
older blurry documentary. It's not actually Press TV. I think

821
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:11,079
this is made by CBC or something else. It's actually

822
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:15,600
a good documentary, but you can't get it to come

823
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:24,760
up on like YouTube or Google. You have to use yandex. Yeah, exactly, Rachel.

824
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,760
This is the scandals we know about, imagine what we

825
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:33,000
don't know about. So this one is good, and there's

826
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:35,760
there's actually several of these. There's one I think maybe

827
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,039
by the Canadian Broadcasting Company some years back, but I

828
01:12:38,039 --> 01:12:47,399
don't remember the name of it. See it might be

829
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,640
this one. Let's see what this is.

830
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: On a quiet night in nineteen eighty two, Italian banker

831
01:12:55,119 --> 01:12:57,920
Roberto Calvi is on the run. This might be he

832
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,439
has spent a lifetime working for Banko on bro Ziano,

833
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:05,279
a bank whose biggest customer is the Vatican, but now

834
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,880
he's a fugitive desperately trying to escape the long arm

835
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,479
of the law. An Italian smuggler arranged for him to

836
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,399
be driven overnight to Austria, where he shuttled between several

837
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,800
cities for a few days before boarding in to Rome.

838
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,079
Speaker 4: To consult with the Pope.

839
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:26,079
Speaker 2: Their financial empirement Jewish banker James de Rothschild, head of

840
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:30,159
the family's Paris based headquarters, becomes the official papal banker.

841
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,039
Speaker 4: There you go. Now, I think down the road we'll

842
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:43,960
actually probably do a talk on Paul Williams's Vatican stuff.

843
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,039
But he also in this book discusses the CIA's longtime

844
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:50,520
connections with Paul the six because they were worried that

845
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:55,119
John the twenty third was to They called him the

846
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:56,880
Pink Pope, so they were worried he was a little

847
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,600
too open to the Soviet into socialism, and so they

848
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,600
wanted to make sure and thus they were involved in

849
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,119
the conclave that elected Originally they wanted Cardinal siri, and

850
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:11,800
then it ended up being they went with Paul the sixth,

851
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,079
and after that time, Kissinger met with Paul the six

852
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,079
very regularly throughout the Cold War, and I think you could.

853
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:22,920
You could and Gordon Thomas syn the same thing with

854
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,880
John Paul the Second, like the CIA met with John

855
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,800
Paul the Second all the time. But oh well, it

856
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,640
was a Cold War, okay. Yeah, but I thought that

857
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,960
the papacy was the guide here, and yet the papacy

858
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,920
seems to be doing what the CIA wants during the

859
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,720
Cold War. Interesting why is that? Well, at one point

860
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:49,760
the bank called Ambrosio collapse led to the collapse of

861
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,479
all the banks in Italy, including the Vatican Bank, and

862
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,880
the roth Tels actually came in I think, with a

863
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,439
billion dollars and bailed it out. So way, thank you

864
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,760
guys for the super chat. I appreciate that. Shepherd nine

865
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,279
one one five dollars yay. I've always appreciate the level

866
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:07,880
of research that you put into this. I can see

867
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,119
why Sam Hide brought you on to write. Thank you, sir.

868
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,800
Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, we should have a couple

869
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,079
of new episodes out in the near future. One of

870
01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:21,000
them is going to be very ridiculous. So we'll have

871
01:15:21,119 --> 01:15:26,479
to see. I'm interested to see how many people redeem

872
01:15:27,359 --> 01:15:31,439
redeemed that that pens rode not to redeem that. It's

873
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,399
going to be a wild one. V Scott five dollars.

874
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:38,199
Pay Piggies here for the Roman Catholic cookout cuter twenty dollars.

875
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,000
Always thankful for the reiteration of how much of the

876
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:44,760
papal nonsense stay strong, Diar, thank you so much. Caucasian

877
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,760
sent a membership. Thank you Black Flame Nova one hundred dollars.

878
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,319
If Andrew gets gifts for his grift, so should you.

879
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,920
Here's for all that you do. Wow, thank you so much. Man,

880
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,439
appreciate that. Very kind of you, very generous. And uh,

881
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,800
we also want to mention some of these scandals because

882
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:10,479
the point of all this is that this is all interconnected.

883
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:16,119
And the reason that we can't point people to this

884
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:20,039
institution to rescue Western civilization all that is that it

885
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:22,439
is a corrupt from the top down. That's why it's

886
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:27,000
that simple. So I know there's a lot of sincere

887
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:29,920
Roman Catholics and guys that mean well and they want

888
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,960
to do right, and they want to oppose corruption and

889
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,880
all that, and I empathize with it. I sympathize with it.

890
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,279
I know I was a tradcat. I get it. I

891
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:40,479
get it. But the problem is, eventually you realize this

892
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:46,039
institution is your enemy. It's not the Orthodox over here

893
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:48,079
that are your real enemies. These people that you're fighting

894
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:56,319
is it's the revolutionaries in Rome who wear the people might.

895
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,039
I was going to say the tr but they don't

896
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:01,920
wear the tr anymore. So that's that's what you Eventually,

897
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:06,119
you eventually get just burnt out trying to defend Roman Catholicism.

898
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,119
When the people that run Roman Catholicism are your enemies.

899
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:10,880
It's a trapped like they're the ones that are really

900
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,880
fighting you. And once you realize that, it's like, all

901
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,000
I'm done. It's like why am I? It's like it'd

902
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,520
be like trying to spend all of your time defending

903
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,239
Biden and then you go meet Biden and he flips

904
01:17:23,279 --> 01:17:25,920
you off and poops his pants and tries to thring it,

905
01:17:26,119 --> 01:17:29,680
fling his senior citizen poop on you. You're like, okay,

906
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,199
I'm done defending Biden. Like this guy is not actually

907
01:17:32,279 --> 01:17:35,479
my friend and I don't think he likes me. Right,

908
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,159
we all know Biden was like pooping himself and just

909
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:41,680
screwing with his secret service and all these people. It's like,

910
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:44,479
You're like, why am I defending this guy? This guy's crazy.

911
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:56,600
So let's mentioned in passing that we've we've lectured through

912
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,199
this whole book, and even if fifty percent of this

913
01:18:01,279 --> 01:18:03,399
book is correct, let's say fifty percent of this book

914
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,800
is just wrong, just factually wrong. Even as an FBI

915
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,439
consultant Paul Wiams got it wrong. Okay, let's say fifty

916
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,920
percent of the book is wrong. I don't think it is,

917
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,079
but let's say it is. The other fifty percent that

918
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:20,920
is right is enough to show this is an absolutely

919
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:27,920
insane or international crime organization. That's why I'm so constantly

920
01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:31,359
opposed to the Vatican. It's not because I'm mad, it's

921
01:18:31,399 --> 01:18:34,039
not because I'm jealous. It's not because I envy Nick

922
01:18:34,119 --> 01:18:38,359
Flintis's audience. It's not because I wish I'm butt hurt

923
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,640
because constantinople Fell like none of that. It's because I

924
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,960
was in the domain of tradcat world for many years

925
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,640
throughout my twenties. I saw it, lived it. I understand

926
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,960
the insanity and the double think and the craziness that

927
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:58,600
it produces. And I don't want Roman Collichs to go

928
01:18:58,640 --> 01:18:59,880
through that. I want you to be free from that.

929
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,800
I know you think, oh, you just hate, you just hate.

930
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,119
I don't like the organized crime goblins in Rome. I

931
01:19:08,359 --> 01:19:11,439
like Tim Gordon. I love Tim Gordon and his family.

932
01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:16,079
His family is awesome. He's got all these kids and

933
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:20,239
they're great. I want to see Tim Gordon free from

934
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:23,560
the shackles and slavery of this organized crime syndicate that

935
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:30,720
they believe is infallible. It's just crazy. So to summarize

936
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,600
in this book, we're not gonna lecture this whole bit.

937
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,640
I've already lectured through this entire book. You can go

938
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,359
find it on the channel. The summary is just simply

939
01:19:37,399 --> 01:19:46,039
that the in nineteen forty seven, the CIA reached out

940
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:49,279
to the Vatican to try to make connections because the

941
01:19:49,399 --> 01:19:52,319
Cold War's kicking off and they want to try to

942
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,600
ensure that this vast global entity will be on their

943
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,600
side in the Cold War. And so William Colby and

944
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,079
other Prior to that, of course, it was the Zionist

945
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:06,520
James Jesus Angleton who was at the Rome desk for

946
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,239
the for the OSS Colby reaches out and they offer

947
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,680
sixty five million dollars to the Vatican Bank in nineteen

948
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,319
forty eight to help the Vatican win against the Socialist

949
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,119
and the Communists in the election. Now the Vatican isn't running,

950
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:26,840
but they wanted to support the pro American, pro CIA,

951
01:20:27,119 --> 01:20:35,279
pro OSS candidates Christian Democrats or whatever they're called. And

952
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,079
that because obviously, if you're the Vatican, you know you

953
01:20:38,119 --> 01:20:42,119
don't want communists taken over Italy, right, Because I'm not

954
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:43,960
saying the Communists are good, but I'm saying that this

955
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:47,800
is the beginning of the alliance with the Vatican and

956
01:20:48,119 --> 01:20:52,199
the CIA in nineteen forty seven, and particularly here William Colby.

957
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:54,319
Now if you don't know who William Colby is, he

958
01:20:54,520 --> 01:21:00,640
is a very important trad cat Cold War figure. And

959
01:21:01,239 --> 01:21:04,399
there's a great documentary that his son made and it's

960
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,560
called The Man Nobody Knew. We've done a whole podcast

961
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,119
just on this documentary. I highly recommend everybody go watch it.

962
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,680
It will give you a lot of good context and

963
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,039
it will back up a lot of the things that

964
01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:16,720
you hear me talking about that we talked about in

965
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,600
this book. The Roman Gallic Church at this time reached

966
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,159
out not just to the Vatican, but I want to

967
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:27,960
add also to Hollywood people, Gary Cooper, Frank Sinatra. They

968
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:37,199
were also tapped for promotion of Catholicism and Americanism during

969
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:40,680
this time period to fight the Cold War. Now, to

970
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,239
be clear, I am not saying everybody involved in this

971
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,840
was nefarious and malicious. I understand that at that time

972
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,760
they thought this was the right thing to do. And

973
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,720
I definitely believe in private property and human rights and

974
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,039
well the Ten Commandments, I should say I believe in

975
01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:00,600
those things, and I don't believe in the NK or

976
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,439
the Soviet Party's a ligner and that stuff. But that

977
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,760
doesn't mean that that makes all of the Vatican goblins

978
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,439
and the CIA operatives the good guys. Okay, this is

979
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,840
just the real politic, the real world, because what happens

980
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,399
is the means by which they decide to set up

981
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:28,000
the funding structure here involves drugs and weapons. And how

982
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:30,640
are we going to fund and put money into the

983
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,520
Vatican Bank and also fund some of these black ops

984
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,760
when number one, we can't have this public money because

985
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:42,039
that will get congressional investigation. So they do it off

986
01:22:42,079 --> 01:22:44,039
the books, and we're going to use the world's most

987
01:22:44,079 --> 01:22:46,840
secretive bank, the Vatican Bank, and the Vatican will perhaps

988
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,000
help us if we need funding for black ops. And

989
01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:55,880
that's exactly what happened. In fact, many many shell company

990
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:06,039
banks are created, and these show companies all end up

991
01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:10,199
tied into organized crime Sicilian mafia, the mafia in the US,

992
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:16,359
and the OSS and CIA. One of the key banks

993
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,920
tied into this was the Hambrose Brothers Bank, which was

994
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,600
an OSS and British intelligence bank. Hambrose himself was a

995
01:23:24,119 --> 01:23:26,840
British jew who set up a bank that would be

996
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,680
involved in British intelligence operations and it was also tied

997
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,479
into Opus Day and thus Opus Day becomes one of

998
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:38,760
the central links in this chain that would be used

999
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:45,159
by the CIA and other individuals in terms of Operation Gladio.

1000
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,880
So this is where Gladio comes in to be to

1001
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,079
be funded through the stuff that we're talking about. Eventually, however,

1002
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:56,680
this collapsed. And what's fascinating when I made a video

1003
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,199
back when FTX collapsed, because the structure of FTX and

1004
01:24:01,279 --> 01:24:06,039
it's scam is actually really close to the same pyramid

1005
01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:12,640
style structure scam of the collapse of the Bank of Ambrosio.

1006
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,560
And thus the Vatican Bank and others. Twenty two billion

1007
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:21,760
dollars were lost. And they were basically betting with people's

1008
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:26,239
other people's money. Particularly, they were betting with everybody in

1009
01:24:26,319 --> 01:24:34,399
Italy's pension money. Isn't that crazy? Now, Specifically on the

1010
01:24:37,359 --> 01:24:40,520
organized crime side of this, Paul the sixth was very

1011
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,239
close to Michelle Sindona, who was an organized crime figure

1012
01:24:45,319 --> 01:24:52,840
and trafficker. And Michelle Sendona was the finance kingpin, and

1013
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,920
he was also running operations at the Vatican Bank. Michelle

1014
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,279
Sendona was also directly connected to David Rockefeller, and so

1015
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:04,840
the secrets of the Vatican Bank then, as you can see,

1016
01:25:05,079 --> 01:25:07,840
are like perfect. The secrecy of it is perfect. For

1017
01:25:09,399 --> 01:25:12,800
in one case, for example, the United States sent ten

1018
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:18,520
million dollars to Michelle Sendona to fund Operation Gladio in

1019
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,600
nineteen seventy. According to Paul Williams, the guy running all

1020
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,640
of this was actually Kissinger. So Kissinger was the one

1021
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,960
that was meeting with Paul the six regularly meeting with

1022
01:25:29,039 --> 01:25:33,800
President Nixon and meeting with and giving orders to Leccio Gelli,

1023
01:25:34,399 --> 01:25:39,720
who had, through Epstein's style parties, compromised the cardinals for

1024
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,079
the most part, and the bishops of Italy, so Italy

1025
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:46,760
in terms, and politicians too, I forgot politicians. The cardinals

1026
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,199
and the bishops were invited to Bunga Bunga parties. Have

1027
01:25:51,319 --> 01:25:54,159
you heard of this? This was the famous parties that

1028
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,720
Silvio Berlusconi had, who was himself a member of P two.

1029
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,680
All these people are members of the P two lodge too.

1030
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,079
By the way, all of this gets printed in the

1031
01:26:04,119 --> 01:26:09,720
Italian and European press. Explodes the door on all of

1032
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:17,560
the Gladio stuff. And in nineteen eighty one this was

1033
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:23,199
published in European and Italian press. All nine hundred and

1034
01:26:23,319 --> 01:26:26,720
sixty two members of the P two Lodge and those

1035
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:31,479
who have been attending the Bunga Bunga parties at the

1036
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:41,039
clandestine Lodge which yeah, Epstein stops dock. This is page

1037
01:26:41,079 --> 01:26:51,439
one oh nine. Here's an example of the list. And

1038
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:57,720
by the way, the first person listed is Silville Burlescon. Yeah,

1039
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,279
so these are Roman Catholic diddy parties. But I would imagine,

1040
01:27:02,359 --> 01:27:05,880
I mean, I'm sure they used boys and girls at this.

1041
01:27:06,319 --> 01:27:07,800
But do you remember this.

1042
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 5: Scone is savoring his court victory in the infamous of

1043
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,920
Bunga Bunga case and plunging ahead with politics, saying he's

1044
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,399
working for a better Italy even though he remains barred

1045
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:29,399
from public office. Tuesday, Italy's highest court confirmed Berlascone's acquittal

1046
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,359
on charges he paid an underage Moroccan prostitute for sex

1047
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,560
and then used his influence to cover it up. The

1048
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,399
ruling closed an embarrassing chapter for the media mobile, exposing

1049
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,960
the raunchy parties that has Belan mansion, complete with show

1050
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,279
girl strip teases. In a statement, Berlascone cheered the decision

1051
01:27:43,359 --> 01:27:44,399
but express bitterness.

1052
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 4: So this was a huge deal, you know, like ten

1053
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:59,840
fifteen years ago, because it came out that he was

1054
01:28:00,039 --> 01:28:04,319
engaged in these Bunga bunga parties. But this is nothing new.

1055
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,760
The Bunga Bunga parties are happening in nineteen eighty one,

1056
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,720
so like it goes back to the seventies. Gladio and

1057
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,279
all the members of the P two lodge. By the way,

1058
01:28:14,319 --> 01:28:18,000
this is all public, like, this isn't even this isn't theory.

1059
01:28:18,399 --> 01:28:20,760
You can actually go look up the P two list.

1060
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,680
It's all declassified public stuff from late seventies, early eighties.

1061
01:28:28,079 --> 01:28:33,479
So anyway, speaking of these characters, a lot of these

1062
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,399
characters the Vatican Bank, for example, would create shell companies

1063
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:41,760
the Vatican and then own shell companies which would engage

1064
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,319
in the shipping of arms and drugs and perhaps other

1065
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,640
black market things people perhaps, and thus they would be

1066
01:28:52,079 --> 01:28:54,600
they've had a plausible deniability because well, it's not the

1067
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,880
Vatican doing it, it's a shell company for the Vatican,

1068
01:28:57,359 --> 01:29:02,119
and that's all come out. Attican owns arms, shipping companies

1069
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,840
that were fronts and shells, and thus they had plausible

1070
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,319
deniability and they could say that there were one or

1071
01:29:08,359 --> 01:29:14,640
two levels removed from people like Lecchio Gelli through Michel Sendona,

1072
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,840
who was really close to Paul the Six. By the way,

1073
01:29:24,119 --> 01:29:28,079
I should have asked Sammy the Bull about this, because

1074
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,920
for example, here's a fascinating section that I didn't think

1075
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,399
to ask Sammy the Bull, and we were talking about

1076
01:29:35,399 --> 01:29:39,039
all this stuff. In addition to the shell corporations, Roberto

1077
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:43,720
Calviy remained Michel Sindona's successor as the principal banker for

1078
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,439
the heroin trade. Insight into Roberto Calviy's position as the

1079
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:52,960
mob's concilierre was provided in nineteen ninety six when Francesco Manoya,

1080
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:58,720
the leading pentito who collaborated with the informant for the

1081
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:03,319
FEDS from the Sicilian mafia testified in the Andreotti trial.

1082
01:30:04,359 --> 01:30:06,600
He told the court that Roberto Calvi became the key

1083
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:11,159
figure laundering heroin money for the American mafia. After the

1084
01:30:11,319 --> 01:30:14,800
arrest warrant for Michelsondona have been issued in Italy in

1085
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,159
nineteen seventy six, the heroin, according to Manoya, continued to

1086
01:30:19,239 --> 01:30:23,079
be sent to the Gambinos of Cherry Hill, New Jersey.

1087
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,159
The Gambinos wul then deposit large sums of money of

1088
01:30:26,199 --> 01:30:28,640
their earnings into the banks that were controlled by Roberto

1089
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:34,359
Calvi that were then cleansed money laundering cleansed for the

1090
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,359
Vatican Bank or what's called the Institute of Religious Affairs

1091
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:44,319
or Institute of Religious Works. Eventually, the money was then

1092
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,039
used by the American mafia to purchase hotels, lands, and

1093
01:30:47,159 --> 01:30:52,720
financial companies in Florida and the island of Aruba. So

1094
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:58,119
that's where your Vatican tithe money is going, you idiots. Oh,

1095
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:02,720
this do dont corrupt anymore. Yeah, they just assassinated John

1096
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,760
Paul the first, right, I mean, this is why John

1097
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,039
Paul the First got assassinated. It was over this stuff.

1098
01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:11,640
You understand, you read this book and it explains what

1099
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,760
was going on and why he was assassinated. Now, but

1100
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,279
wait a minute, John Paul the Second was a saint,

1101
01:31:17,399 --> 01:31:19,439
He was a hero. You mean the guy who would

1102
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,800
hang out with and meet Savile and gave Savile a

1103
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,000
papal knighthood. You mean the guy that promoted Bishop Marcinkus,

1104
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,479
one of the key criminal figures in the Vatican bank scandals.

1105
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,840
Oh yeah, John Paul the Great. Sure, I think to

1106
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:38,119
be the Great, or to be knighted or to be

1107
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,039
called Dame this or that or Sir this or that,

1108
01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:44,840
you actually have to be exceptionally wicked. That's like the

1109
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,720
only way to actually be like given these high high

1110
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:57,600
titles and awards and promotions. Anyway, So there's a lot

1111
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,920
more this this book has. Basically every page is full

1112
01:32:01,039 --> 01:32:05,359
of fascinating information. And to take that book by Paul

1113
01:32:05,399 --> 01:32:09,520
Williams and then read Whitney Webb's book on the way

1114
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:16,039
that the jeff Stein mcaffree operation was conducted via Maxwell,

1115
01:32:16,279 --> 01:32:20,800
just Laine, et cetera. And that entrapment operation. Oh, that's

1116
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,800
exactly what Lechio, Gelly and Kissinger's entrapment operation through the

1117
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,760
P two lodges was happening in the nineteen seventies. It's

1118
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,239
exact same, it's the same model. So are you noticing

1119
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:34,880
a pattern? This is how they run things. Yeah, the

1120
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,680
well wait a minute, what about so the lodge? Okay,

1121
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:44,520
this isn't a typical Freemason lodge. I'm totally against freemasonry.

1122
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,199
But somebody might say, well, wait a minute. Mussolini was

1123
01:32:48,199 --> 01:32:52,000
opposed to masonry and he didn't like them, and neither

1124
01:32:52,039 --> 01:32:55,520
did tiny mustache Man. So how could there be lodges

1125
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,119
that were pro Cia and all that. Well, that's what

1126
01:32:58,359 --> 01:33:03,880
P two is. P two law were the leftovers of

1127
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:08,840
masonry that were fascists. So some of the lodges, apparently

1128
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:13,800
the P two they actually, this isn't schizo. I'm citing

1129
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:18,520
to you normal mainline historic texts. Why are you calling

1130
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:23,720
this stuff schizo? I'm literally giving you historian Catholic authors

1131
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:38,800
that are consultants for the FBI. What are you talking about? Schizo? So,

1132
01:33:39,399 --> 01:33:44,039
I mean, it's literally a easily accessible Wikipedia article, And

1133
01:33:44,039 --> 01:33:45,960
I'm not saying it's true because of the a Wikipedia article.

1134
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,560
I'm saying that it's a Wikipedia article because it's not

1135
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:58,920
even controversial. Idiot, Its charter was transformed by Leccio Gelli.

1136
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:20,279
That's exactly what I just told you. Now, I think

1137
01:34:20,319 --> 01:34:22,680
this will even tell you that because it's all public. Now,

1138
01:34:28,039 --> 01:34:31,279
this lodge was secret until it was discovered through glad

1139
01:34:31,359 --> 01:34:37,079
you and Michelson Dona's bank collapse. Oh look at all

1140
01:34:37,119 --> 01:34:39,479
this stuff I'm telling you. It turns out it's publicly information.

1141
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,680
You just didn't know. See you, what you think is

1142
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,520
skitzo is just because you're illiterate and you don't read.

1143
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:54,039
You're the problem, not me. All right, So moving on

1144
01:34:57,319 --> 01:35:00,239
this alliance that had been formed that we saw with

1145
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,199
the Rumman Catholic Church and Western intelligence, it actually kind

1146
01:35:05,239 --> 01:35:07,399
of made sense and you could empathize with and see

1147
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:12,039
why the popes would be convinced of it. Right, your

1148
01:35:12,079 --> 01:35:16,119
bank is running out of money. There's been corruption already

1149
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:19,039
in the Vatican Bank. The CIA reaches out, Hey, we

1150
01:35:19,159 --> 01:35:25,680
are pro freedom, we're pro private property, we're pro God.

1151
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:35,840
We're going to help you fight this political information battle

1152
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,720
with the Communists that are about to be elected. We're

1153
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,920
going to give you money, tens of millions of dollars.

1154
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:47,159
You're going to then defeat the Communists and the Christian Democrats.

1155
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:49,760
Who are pro rumed Catholic will win the elections. But

1156
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,479
the problem is that now you are indebted to the

1157
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,399
people that have put all the money in your bank.

1158
01:35:56,319 --> 01:36:00,479
Obviously the borrower is servant to the lender. So I

1159
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,720
mentioned this stuff on Twitter the other day and this

1160
01:36:03,039 --> 01:36:06,359
know it all. Actually there were only two or three

1161
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,159
loans of them. It's like, dude, you want to haggle

1162
01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:12,800
with me over this, like Minutia when scripture says very

1163
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,920
clearly the borrower is servant to the lender. So if

1164
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,760
the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and the CIA, or they're

1165
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:25,439
bailing out collapsing Vatican banks. Yeah, there's many. There's actually

1166
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,840
several documentaries on gladi.

1167
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Speaker 2: You.

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01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 4: None of this is contrable. This is all public stuff.

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01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,800
This is not even theory. This is all public known stuff.

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01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, let's just move on. So another book that we

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01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:51,680
lectured through that was an academic text was Michael Graziano's

1173
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:57,600
recent thesis published as Aaron into the Wilderness Religion in

1174
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,760
the History of the CIA. And this whole book is

1175
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:03,039
well the relationship of the OSS and the CIA two

1176
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,079
American religion. Most of the stuff that you've heard me

1177
01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:09,960
talk about is all backed up in this book. There

1178
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,840
were there were some things that were new to me

1179
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,199
though when we read this. For example, I didn't know

1180
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:22,159
that Tom Dooley. Tom Dooley was a famous Roman Catholic

1181
01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:25,760
actor who was also recruited into doing a lot of

1182
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:31,680
propaganda and Cold War you know, anti cold anti Communist

1183
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,039
Cold War stuff. And one reason that they were able

1184
01:37:34,039 --> 01:37:37,159
to do that because he was gay. So Tom Dooley,

1185
01:37:37,319 --> 01:37:40,399
who was very close to Paul the six and a

1186
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:46,239
famous honorary PhD from Notre Dame. Shocker, I know, right,

1187
01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:49,159
it's a shocker that a Roman Catholic would be gay.

1188
01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:12,399
Tom Dooley was apparently recruited and used in this way

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01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,680
because he was gay. I mean, this is the point

1190
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,840
I was making the other day, the reason that you

1191
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:28,319
can't have people who are highly intelligent. That can't be

1192
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:32,640
the only criteria for leadership, because you can have highly

1193
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:37,039
intelligent people who are captive to certain vices. Now we're

1194
01:38:37,079 --> 01:38:39,960
all captive to vices in some way, but certain vices

1195
01:38:40,359 --> 01:38:45,079
make it not possible for you to be in a

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01:38:45,159 --> 01:38:50,079
leadership role. It will compromise you. And not only are

1197
01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:52,720
you compromised, well, you're also subject to in a slave

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01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,439
to your vices in this way. So the reason that

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even in the Cold War this was everywhere understood was

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that the Soviets would just immediately comp and get dirt

1201
01:39:02,319 --> 01:39:06,319
on anybody who was secretly gay during the Cold War.

1202
01:39:09,039 --> 01:39:10,760
So anyway, I'm not going to rehearse all this book,

1203
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,960
but it is relevant to note that one thing that,

1204
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,960
even as a secular historian, Michael Graziano noted was that

1205
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:27,520
the entire project of ecumenism was an oss CIA Americanist project. Now, yes,

1206
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:32,359
ecumenism existed prior to that, and even prior to the

1207
01:39:32,399 --> 01:39:35,399
os S and CIA picking up on it. It was

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01:39:36,039 --> 01:39:39,640
a very powerful tool. It was funded by the Rockefeller

1209
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,239
family by many, many millions of dollars. We've covered that,

1210
01:39:43,319 --> 01:39:53,640
that's in the rock Filler biography. But the one thing

1211
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,880
that we found interesting on page sixty eight sixty nine

1212
01:39:57,039 --> 01:40:01,560
was that the term Judeo Christian is actually a Cold

1213
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,720
War psychological warfare tool. So people are, oh, where's the

1214
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,560
where Judeo christianhood? It's out of the Cold War. It's

1215
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,079
a term that the OSS and CIA used to try

1216
01:40:11,159 --> 01:40:15,600
to capitalize on any force in the West that was

1217
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,279
pro God and pro family or anything like that to

1218
01:40:19,359 --> 01:40:22,359
help fight the Cold War. So again that's where that

1219
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:28,720
term comes from. The idea was that a Judeo Christian

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01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:33,560
society's pluralism would be a better society, and you could

1221
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:40,039
sell that over the USSR's anti liberal society. Did you

1222
01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:43,079
know that the Soviets were anti liberal? I know that

1223
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:47,319
might be a shock to some dumb people, but Sovietism

1224
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:52,159
is anti liberal. They're opposed to classical liberalism. They're opposed

1225
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:57,359
to capitalism, which is a liberal, classical liberal economic theory.

1226
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,520
So the CIA reason, the USS reasons opposed them with

1227
01:41:03,279 --> 01:41:08,439
religious pluralism and the idea of a Judeo Christian pluralist

1228
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:16,520
society that naturally led directly to ecumenism and what's called

1229
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,319
the doctrinal warfare program of the CIA. Now, this book

1230
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:28,199
has a whole section on CD Jackson, ed Lilly Henry

1231
01:41:28,279 --> 01:41:32,159
LUs of Time Magazine, all of these other figures who

1232
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:39,800
were involved with the Eisenhower Psychological Strategy Board PSB. The

1233
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:44,479
Psychological Strategy Board of Eisenhower and Henry LUs was a

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01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:49,399
skull bonesman, Skull and bones, the guy behind Time Life magazine,

1235
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:55,479
and they went in on this idea that together if

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01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,079
we could come up with a common ethos of a

1237
01:41:59,319 --> 01:42:05,399
supreme being and natural law. All of the religious world

1238
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:11,600
could be grouped together to fight the Cold War, Page

1239
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,600
seventy two, seventy three. Now this is a secular scholar

1240
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,520
who can recognize all the things that I say. He

1241
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,159
doesn't have a religious few as far as I am.

1242
01:42:21,079 --> 01:42:23,479
In fact, he comes off as kind of woke. How

1243
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,800
can a secular woke dude recognize this? But none of

1244
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,520
you Roman Catholics can recognize this, and you normy docs

1245
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:33,840
can't recognize this. This isn't even a long book. You

1246
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,239
could read this book in two days. It's one hundred

1247
01:42:37,239 --> 01:42:41,439
and eighty pages and a main line academic text will

1248
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:48,760
tell you everything that I say right here, pages seventy two,

1249
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:56,600
seventy three. Henry Leose then decided it would be useful

1250
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,359
to recruit people like Billy Graham for the anti Soviet

1251
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,439
Cold War message and the term they came up. We

1252
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:08,359
can't make this. This is this is so gay spiritual democracy.

1253
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:15,560
This is their this is their psychological warfare slogan term.

1254
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,920
If we all believed in spiritual democracy and understood it,

1255
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,479
and if we just listened to Billy Graham's luxuals, and

1256
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,399
if we held Miles Billiguy, that's all cold wars. Do

1257
01:43:26,399 --> 01:43:31,720
you understand Billy Graham is a Cold warrior. Those giant

1258
01:43:32,079 --> 01:43:36,439
tent revivals and stadium revivals are to fight the Cold War,

1259
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:42,079
you idiots. It's not about fiving years soul. Yes, Billy

1260
01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:45,680
Graham was utilized. Now, that doesn't mean that Billy Graham

1261
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,960
was sent to the farm and was given training and

1262
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:50,239
was taught how to seduce women and to kill people.

1263
01:43:50,319 --> 01:43:54,520
That's the no. Billy Graham is brought into the boardrooms

1264
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,359
with people like Henry Luis and they say, hey, we're

1265
01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:01,159
gonna put you on Time magazine to be our the

1266
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:05,840
voice of America and God's voice to the nations. But

1267
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,000
it's for the Cold War. Admittedly, it's called the doctrinal

1268
01:44:09,039 --> 01:44:14,800
warfare program. Guess what they didn't just look for evangelical

1269
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,439
goobers to be the face of this. They also look

1270
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,960
for Muslim preachers to be the face of the Cold War.

1271
01:44:25,159 --> 01:44:27,920
Why am I saying this? You cannot understand all of

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01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,680
this and all the stuff that happened and Vatican two

1273
01:44:32,079 --> 01:44:37,880
without the Cold War. That's the setting, the ethos, the milieu,

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01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,800
and in fact he this dude goes on to say,

1275
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,119
they also looked for Muslim preachers to be this kind

1276
01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:56,760
of a pro Western thing. There was, for example, an

1277
01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:01,119
e mom of Jerusalem that they thought aid in the

1278
01:45:01,239 --> 01:45:08,520
Cold War. Now remember that's where we give musjah Haden.

1279
01:45:10,039 --> 01:45:13,680
The CIA pays for and trains the muja Hadeen to

1280
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:22,079
fight the Soviets. In fact, the Doctrinal Warfare Program stressed

1281
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,800
that amongst the CIA alliance of the Acumenist religious project,

1282
01:45:28,079 --> 01:45:35,359
they would intentionally quote avoid dogmas and stress lowest common

1283
01:45:35,399 --> 01:45:43,199
denominator spiritual democracy is the gayest term of reheard to

1284
01:45:43,359 --> 01:45:50,159
promote a global acumenism. So, even though Cumanism is prior

1285
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:53,680
to the Cold War, the os S and CIA explicitly

1286
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,760
and self consciously, especially Bill Donovan himself, who was a

1287
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:03,600
massive ecumenist, you utilize the idea of a global ecumenous

1288
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:10,880
project to defeat the Soviets. In fact, the CIA during

1289
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,640
this period would even make ties with Buddhism. Thus Tibetan

1290
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:19,199
Buddhism and the Tibetan Project were specific CIA projects. We

1291
01:46:19,359 --> 01:46:22,079
just cover that two streams ago. That is also declassified.

1292
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:34,159
Why think about it? Who does who hates the Dalai

1293
01:46:34,279 --> 01:46:39,880
Lama China. Why because of the CIA Tibet Program. The

1294
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,760
CIA Tibet Program was an anti Chinese government covered operation

1295
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,840
spanning twenty years. It consisted of political action, propaganda, military

1296
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,279
intelligence operations, all this kind of stuff facilitated by arrangements

1297
01:46:49,359 --> 01:46:57,960
between the Dalai Lama and the CIA. Are you beginning

1298
01:46:58,039 --> 01:47:02,319
to see how raw on an expanse of this ideological

1299
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:08,960
war is. And these people don't care about your theological minutia,

1300
01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:12,359
Okay to all you theology nerds. They don't care about

1301
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,039
Homo Usius, they don't care about the essence inner distinction,

1302
01:47:16,359 --> 01:47:22,359
don't care about Philly Oakway. The concern is a giant

1303
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:26,479
ecumenist ideological alliance to win the Cold War. And why

1304
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,880
are we winning the Cold War? Is it because everybody

1305
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,960
in the West are the good guys? Now, a lot

1306
01:47:31,039 --> 01:47:33,880
of people in the CIA and in the intelligence in

1307
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,720
the West are good guys. My uncle was a famous

1308
01:47:37,079 --> 01:47:39,560
Air Force intelligence guy in the Cold War. He flew

1309
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,439
missions out of Turkey against the Soviets, So I am

1310
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,079
not pro Soviet. My point is that when you make

1311
01:47:46,199 --> 01:47:51,079
this alliance, you now have a new master. And if

1312
01:47:51,399 --> 01:47:54,239
the CIA and the Rockefellers and all these people have

1313
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:58,560
bailed out your bank. They're not gonna let you just

1314
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:03,600
do whatever you want. You answer to them now. And

1315
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,600
so if John Paul the Second needs to shoot a

1316
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:13,960
photo op for the Cold War and all the tradcat

1317
01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:17,079
era CIA people under Reagan, if they tell him he's

1318
01:48:17,079 --> 01:48:23,159
gonna do it, he's got to do it. Anyway. This

1319
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,960
Michael Graziano book is great, by the way. It's it's

1320
01:48:26,039 --> 01:48:30,720
really good. By the way. The last chapter is about

1321
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:36,479
Zavigna Razinski and that whole plan of supporting the al

1322
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:43,399
Qaeda to fight the Soviets. Oh, I forgot another character

1323
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:48,680
that's brought in by the CIA, Joseph Campbell and his

1324
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:59,640
archetypes that could be utilized to promote ecumenism. One five. Now,

1325
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:04,159
where where did we just see today? Joseph Campbell and

1326
01:49:04,359 --> 01:49:10,479
acumenism and archetypes. Oh, it's changing images of man, the

1327
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,000
very thing I talked about the very beginning. And although

1328
01:49:14,119 --> 01:49:17,399
I thought this book was going to focus on I

1329
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:21,760
don't know, Brazinski type stuff, the first forty plus pages

1330
01:49:22,319 --> 01:49:32,640
is about spirituality, archetypes, perennialism, and ecumenism. Interesting. So I

1331
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,600
have a whole lecture through the Graciana book. You can

1332
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:41,640
go find that on my channel. Also side note, the

1333
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,720
Paul Williams book is great, but if you're looking for

1334
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,960
a more academic text, because Paul Williams wrote his book

1335
01:49:47,039 --> 01:49:49,760
to be I think readable by a large audience. And

1336
01:49:50,359 --> 01:49:53,560
even though it is more readable than this book, it

1337
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:58,239
is dense. I mean I took notes on every single page.

1338
01:49:58,359 --> 01:50:01,520
Every page has a sticky note, so it will take

1339
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,439
a long time. It is a lot of information to process.

1340
01:50:05,319 --> 01:50:09,560
But it's written even still for a mass readership. This

1341
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,960
book has written a little more for an academic audience,

1342
01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:16,279
and it is apparently a PhD thesis, And it's Daniel

1343
01:50:16,359 --> 01:50:21,720
Ganzer's book, NATO's Secret Armies, Operation Gladio and Terror in

1344
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:27,000
Western Europe. And there's a lot of the information that's

1345
01:50:27,039 --> 01:50:30,279
in Williams book will also be in this book. For example,

1346
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:36,479
sections on William Coleby, sections on Opus Day, sections on Kissinger,

1347
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:42,840
sections on the Mafia, Lucky Luciano, all that stuff. Even

1348
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,000
a section that sounds I mean, I don't know that

1349
01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,680
my uncle did this, but the section the chapter on

1350
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,079
Turkey actually makes sense with the timeline of when my

1351
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:53,680
uncle would have been doing these missions out of Turkey

1352
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,720
against the Soviets, So I think that it might be.

1353
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,199
I'll give you an example, he says, at the end

1354
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:02,760
of the Second World War, the main probably of the

1355
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,000
United States in regard to Turkey was to integrate the

1356
01:51:06,079 --> 01:51:10,239
country solidly within the Western anti Communist defense. Due to

1357
01:51:10,279 --> 01:51:14,520
its geographic location, Turkey was highly valuable as a strategic territory,

1358
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,520
but during and after the Cold War it functioned as

1359
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:21,720
a important balcony for the US and NATO operations in

1360
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,359
the oil countries of the Middle East and the Caucasus region,

1361
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:28,560
most prominently during the Second Gulf War into the nineteen nineties. Furthermore,

1362
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,279
the country represented the most eastern land post of NATO

1363
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,800
during the Cold War. Nobody else, not even Norway, was

1364
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,600
closer to Moscow, and hence Turkey was equipped with high

1365
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:44,159
tech gear and was used as a listening post. And

1366
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,880
that's exactly what my uncle was doing for Air Force

1367
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,840
intelligence during the Cold War. Now it doesn't mention my uncle,

1368
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,600
I'm deciding that seems like that's probably what was going on.

1369
01:51:56,079 --> 01:51:59,239
It's the first time I've seen in a book mentioned

1370
01:51:59,319 --> 01:52:02,119
the things that they told Matt. My uncle died in

1371
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:04,359
the nineties, so this was like way way way later

1372
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,680
that I was told this stuff, but fascinating stuff. I

1373
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,960
think this chapter is really fast. But this chapter talks

1374
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,119
about the CIA is setting up the MIT, which is

1375
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,800
Turkish Secret Service, and of course they did this to

1376
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,479
try to, you know, have Turkey on our side during

1377
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,359
the Cold War. As it said, CIA sent twenty people

1378
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:31,520
to set up the Turkish MIT and this was pretty

1379
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:40,640
much structured by the nineteen fifties. In fact, twenty thousand

1380
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,560
Turks were brought to America and trained from nineteen fifty

1381
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,880
to nineteen seventy nine for the CIA to use in

1382
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:55,800
Turkey and also the School of the Americas. This is

1383
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:59,039
fascinating too. Training for the counter guerrilla's secret Army was

1384
01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:02,119
carried out across Turkey and numerous places, but also abroad.

1385
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:07,039
P military training centers included schools at Ankara, Bulu, Kyseri,

1386
01:53:07,239 --> 01:53:11,520
Buka and Uzmir after nineteen seventy four, also Cyprus in

1387
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:14,760
the Mountain Commando School of Bulu. US special forces including

1388
01:53:15,399 --> 01:53:20,199
Green Beret. We're preparing the war in Vietnam. We're preparing

1389
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:22,399
for the war in Vietnam. We're trained together with the

1390
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,479
counter guerrillas, selected categorrill officers were instructed in the USA

1391
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,439
at the School of Americas, the notorious training center for

1392
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,840
the Special Forces Terrace in nineteen forty six, and Panama

1393
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,600
had moved in nineteen eighty four to the Fort Benning

1394
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:42,359
US Army Post with eighty five miles southeast of Atlanta, Georgia.

1395
01:53:43,359 --> 01:53:46,600
Schools have been set up to train stay behind officers

1396
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:51,640
for sixty thousand Latin American soldiers. That's just crazy, like

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these these drills and these training cells, like they train

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a lot of people and then send about to do

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this stuff. It's more than we know. It's crazy. But

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the reason I brought that up was that the School

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of America's also played a role in training is she

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Hod cells or al Qaeda cells. Allegedly, the School of

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America's terror training center in the US was also identical

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to the al Qaeda centers of Asama bin Lad in Afghanistan.

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As far as methods that were taught were concerned, they

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learned how to it's all the same stuff, right, So

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in other words, al Qaeda's training is basically identical to

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Gladio training at the point, and that's very suggestive that

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it's the same trainers right anyway, So that's another text

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on this that's more, as we said, academic. It's more

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like if you read like military histories, which can be

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kind of dry and kind of boring at times. Paul

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Williams's book is a lot more exciting. But the game

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the book is very relevant key text though overall. Don't

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want to stress. I know it's a difficult book, and

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we've not lectured through the whole thing. We've lectured through

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half of it. But it is an absolutely necessary book.

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It's probably one of the most important geopolitical texts that

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I've read that I recommend. It's not for everybody. Most

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01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:23,680
of you are not going to get it, not going

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to read it. I've not read it. I've not met

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01:55:26,119 --> 01:55:28,279
anyone that has read the book. I'm the only person

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01:55:28,359 --> 01:55:31,399
I know other than David Wimhoff who wrote it it's

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01:55:31,439 --> 01:55:34,960
actually read it. I'm not saying nobody's said I've never

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met a person who's read it because I bring it

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01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,159
up and nobody knows what I'm talking about, even though

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I have recommended and promoted it for seven years at least,

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and that is I think it has been reprinted by

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the way John Courtney Murray Time Life and the American

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proposition how to see doctoral warfare program changed the Catholic Church. Now,

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this book is not saying that the Cio loone did

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everything and changed everything at Vatican two, because it's not

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just the CIA. In fact, there were many people and

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many interests, including Jewish interests, who had a say at

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Vatican two. I don't know if I'll be able to

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find this, but way back in my Triad days, there

1437
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used to be reference made to Look magazine, which was

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a Jewish magazine. And yeah, here it is. You can

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01:56:49,239 --> 01:56:53,680
find the entire article. I've read the article from the

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nineteen sixty six Look magazine how Jews changed Catholic thinking,

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And the article is about Jewish lobby and influence that

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Vatican too, particularly no Stratate, but not just no Strott.

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Also the eventual removal of the Good Friday prayers against

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Jews in the Latin Mass, which the Vatican has removed. Now,

1445
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:26,079
where's when tists or any of these people on this topic.

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01:57:26,199 --> 01:57:27,960
Oh yeah, they don't ever talk about this, do they.

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01:57:28,439 --> 01:57:31,079
I will say it though Tim Gordon did have a

1448
01:57:31,159 --> 01:57:34,000
debate on this. I think Tim Gordon had a debate

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01:57:34,079 --> 01:57:39,680
with a classical theist. I think they had a debate

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:56,319
on the removal of this perfidious Jews statement. Now you

1451
01:57:56,399 --> 01:57:58,239
can go look it up, but you can see that

1452
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,479
what I'm talking talking about Israel. Now here's your favorite

1453
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Skittles jesuit. He wrote a whole article on it. Now again,

1454
01:58:15,359 --> 01:58:17,880
how come to the tradcats and the romanol Why aren't

1455
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,479
why aren't the pop apologists Catholic people talking about this?

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The Latin Mass Good Friday traditional prayers prayed against the

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Jews and said it said something like, perfidious Jews. It's

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been years since I've seen this or I thought about this.

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Uh it perfidious, that's it. In nineteen fifty nine, John

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,239
the twenty third had removed the perfidious Jews postatic in

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two it was all redrafted, and I guess they got

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01:58:54,720 --> 01:59:06,439
rid of heretics and schismatics too. So and why did

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they do that? Well in part because of what we

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01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:14,319
just said with the Look magazine. Also, but it's not

1465
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just that, it's it's also the documents like Nostrotte. So

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it's not just the Jews, it's also the CIA. It's

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also the Rockefellers. There's a lot of interests that wanted

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to move and turn the Vatican and its theology and

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its giant base for Cold war purposes and long term

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other purposes. In fact, there's an entire chapter in wim

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Hoff's book about John Courtney Murray in his close relationship

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with the Rockefellers