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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do, Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of April

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first, we are continuing with Running Point on Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>with episode five be shared. How did I do they

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<v Speaker 2>sure they did say it? In the show?

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<v Speaker 1>It means I'm like ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our time.

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<v Speaker 3>It means like soulmate, basically in yeah, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 3>in Yiddish because part of the conflict of this episode

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<v Speaker 3>was Isla apparently didn't remember but told her fiance love that.

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<v Speaker 2>She would convert to Judaism because it was important to.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents, because they needed a topic for this episode

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<v Speaker 1>exactly because yeah, we've never we've barely even seen this

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<v Speaker 1>guy before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was on like one or two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like this is an interesting set him up,

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<v Speaker 1>knock him down topic for an episode. But okay, whatever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are cute, right, but okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>It turned out that her there was some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a what do you call it, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Provision in her father's will that if any of the

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<v Speaker 4>children convert to a long list of religions that is

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<v Speaker 4>not Christianity, then they don't get any of their money.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, really really that's in there. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is all just this is a particularly contrived situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Contrive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything about it was contrived. The Hey, I've

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<v Speaker 1>read about this Chinese acrobat who does halftime shows. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we see if we can get her onto this

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<v Speaker 1>and do this, and yeah, why doesn't everybody fall in

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<v Speaker 1>a pool. Let's figure out a way them do all

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<v Speaker 1>fall in the pool, and let's orchestrate it in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way that everybody will know it's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>like ten seconds before it does.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she should have known it happened from the moment

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<v Speaker 4>there was a pool in the frame, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Extremely clear, you know what the like you said, extremely contrived.

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<v Speaker 4>What the will thing did was allow Aila to not

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<v Speaker 4>have to convert, but show Lev that she she was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, willing to even if it cost her her

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<v Speaker 4>all for money, which of course they would be fine

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<v Speaker 4>because he has plenty of money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right. He seemed entirely unconcerned about her not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it right. It's like, never mind. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no tension over it whatsoever. So it was all

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<v Speaker 1>just a eh, we need something for this episode to

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<v Speaker 1>be about. What could it be? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I have to mention that Max Greenfield

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<v Speaker 1>plays her fiance Lev. And last week I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Poehlar Good Hand podcast, right, and the one for

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was the one about Rashida Jones. At

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, they had a little she had a little

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<v Speaker 1>discussion with three other people to see what sort of

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<v Speaker 1>things she should talk about, and it was Redda and

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy Cardon and somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was. I think it was just

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<v Speaker 2>those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Just those two. Nay, there was Okay, there was some

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<v Speaker 1>talk of white boys who can move, and the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Max Greenfield came up, so good on. You man

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<v Speaker 1>been publicly proclaimed as being good at moving, although we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it in this episode where there could clearly

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<v Speaker 1>have been dancing. And then the following episode of Good

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<v Speaker 1>Hand that I listened to is Ike Baronholtz, who is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the creators of this show, who confirmed that

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<v Speaker 1>indeed Max Greenfield can move, So I guess it's a thing. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when are we going to have some dancing, sir? We

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<v Speaker 1>would like to check this out. You could join the

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<v Speaker 1>ladies out on the court. Yes, yeah, they have to think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's as completely random as hey, let's do an episode

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<v Speaker 1>about converting to Judaism. Not because do any of these

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball coach. No, I'm like, you know, she's not

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<v Speaker 1>giving up her faith. She's just going through motions to

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<v Speaker 1>please her fiance's family. Right, is pretty much what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think she doesn't seem like love is

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<v Speaker 4>No, And it didn't seem like she she was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to say that she had, you know, faith that she

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<v Speaker 4>was giving up. So, yeah, the storyline with the Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>acrobat halftime show, I did enjoy that jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an actual thing, right, that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I heard that.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it was on Extra Hut great that this

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's where I heard it. I knew I'd heard

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<v Speaker 1>it someplace.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Jackie, despite being an only child who

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<v Speaker 2>I think was raised by a single parent, he is

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the tactic of if mom says no, go

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<v Speaker 2>ask dad r and it worked. It worked for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's watched a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked quite well for him, except for the dance

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<v Speaker 2>Lady is mad at him now, but he seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>like that about her, that she was paying attention to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we not believe more in TV labor to come.

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<v Speaker 1>If a woman is mad at you, there will surely

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<v Speaker 1>soon be romance.

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<v Speaker 2>And he knows that too from watching TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where you learned the mom says no, go

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<v Speaker 1>ass dad. He's learned that hot chick is mad at you,

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<v Speaker 1>there will soon be action. So you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>got to wait it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And Sandy finally, you know, his boyfriend has had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning of the show, when the boyfriend like

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<v Speaker 2>calls him and says, oh, he's gotten them tickets to wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me, just hilarious, I was like, Oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're just gonna like ignore the fact that Sandy was

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<v Speaker 2>awful to him in the previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought that they were fighting. Yeah, but but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, I guess the guy like gave him another chance,

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<v Speaker 4>but he blew that one as well. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course all the siblings are like, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean. Of course we wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Cared, you know, like right right, I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that things are gonna come around. Yeah, since, but still

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<v Speaker 1>you should he should make him pay because that bad behavior. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, the boyfriend should make it pick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah for sure, but still dogs for everybody. So he

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<v Speaker 1>could give all his siblings dogs. It is his friend

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<v Speaker 1>some business, and then everybody would be happier. Everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>be happier with a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we could. We could entertain ourselves by

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<v Speaker 2>determining what kind of dog each person. Each person should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie needs one of those dogs that's constantly jumping on you, going.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I feel that ness, and Batuan would have like

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<v Speaker 3>a very small, very princess.

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<v Speaker 2>E dog, a purse dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Eila needs one of those dogs with sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the long long hair, and they could they could exchange

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<v Speaker 1>hair extensions and you know, I could see that. Just

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<v Speaker 1>spent two hours at a dog park the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have dogs on my My kids were had

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<v Speaker 1>a practice at the same park where the dog park is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, you guys, go to your practice, dropped

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<v Speaker 1>me off at the dog park. I'll sit there with

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<v Speaker 1>the dog while it was like two hours and he

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<v Speaker 1>was started to get dark, Like you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Done dogs getting tired?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you leave without me? There's dog groups and like

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<v Speaker 1>three different groups of dogs came and went while we

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like, what's what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>They were all beautiful and wonderful anyway, So dogs, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what this show needs is more dogs. So from a

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<v Speaker 1>parenting point of view, what else do we have? Dad

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<v Speaker 1>trying to manipulate you from beyond the ground was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unfortunate and uh and not in the way that like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there could he could have added provisions that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, improved their relationship or there. Yes, no, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have thought of that, oh dear. And the

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<v Speaker 1>coach who seems to have it together pretty well described

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<v Speaker 1>himself as just having had a child hand off in

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<v Speaker 1>a Chipotle park sparely. Family is difficult, but.

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<v Speaker 4>He does seem to be at him and that other player,

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<v Speaker 4>Marcus are the source of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, Definitely, when they were thinking of words to

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<v Speaker 1>describe Sandy and said homeowner and he was upset that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I'm thinking, man, I have seen your house.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should take some pride. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is actually that is a word that would sell you right, space,

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<v Speaker 1>that would sell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know.

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<v Speaker 1>And describing the siblings as violent, dysfunctional heathens who can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but make a mess in public. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>families that would fly under that bandit, yes, exactly. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>religion in families is in some cases just for show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is seems to be the case with the Gordon's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know, you got to have the Santa, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no particular belief attached to it, right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>certainly seem to be putting down the pedal on cultural

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<v Speaker 1>Jewishness rather than actual you know faith. There either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, when the only argument that the family has

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<v Speaker 2>is like what about Santa, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it makes me think,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think my kids would identify that we

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in church and that going

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<v Speaker 1>to church was a thing, and we say prayers every

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<v Speaker 1>night before bed, and you know that it was I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's as important to them as it

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<v Speaker 1>is to me, but that mom made sure we we

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<v Speaker 1>did things, and you know that other people did things too,

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<v Speaker 1>So but I don't know how much that is anymore

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<v Speaker 1>either way, really, either the going through the motions or

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<v Speaker 1>family defining quality I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just another thing that

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<v Speaker 4>depends a lot on the family. Well and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>NASA's big argument was about Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and then at the end of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Ila agreed to raise any children Jewish. Yeah, so like, okay, are.

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<v Speaker 1>You gonna which was important to him because his mother

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<v Speaker 1>would give him a hard time other worse. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like he's the one asking for this theoretically, but

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't really matter to him either, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>of it, So yeah, it's just kind of a It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like she just kind of said she would and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like something that he said, Hey, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss this is to me, how are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to handle this? It's just eh, yeah, which is I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is good because I really did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>see this show get weighed down in them breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>because she wouldn't converge. But on the other hand, why

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up at all? Then? Yeah, surely there could

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<v Speaker 1>have been some other dispute for a humorous, possible bump

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<v Speaker 1>in their relationship, right, that's not something that to some

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<v Speaker 1>people is still meaningful. Yeah, yeah, you guys, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a sitcom silliness. But clearly it does not seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they want to be in the business of breaking

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<v Speaker 1>her and leve up, which I'm happy, yes, exactly. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>we just be having a fun? In fact, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like Sandy to get back together with his guy and

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<v Speaker 1>just let's everybody just be happy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Jackie can get with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly gets his answer and everybody will have the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they picked one dancer out to go confront him

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<v Speaker 1>means she's going to be in it more. Her agent

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<v Speaker 1>is very happy, but oh well, well, at least they're

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<v Speaker 1>not stranded on an islands, right, so there's hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, next Wednesday we will continue with season one, episode six.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the Yips. Thank you dear, something I can pronounce,

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<v Speaker 2>we will.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know what that is.

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