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<v Speaker 1>A very happy Wednesday to you. Always a great time

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<v Speaker 1>to be listening to the fifty five CARSS Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Appointment listening is what I call it, and I sit

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of my seat waiting around for Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 1>at eight thirty to talk to Judge Andrew Nepolitana. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear friend. It's a real pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on him.

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<v Speaker 3>What a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>He froze up? What happened, Joe, Well, we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>reboot him. Okay, there he is, Okay, you are back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not chopliff. You almost got it out before the

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<v Speaker 1>before the network froze up there. But now I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the days, like I said, he does traffic

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<v Speaker 1>for about nineteen or twenty different cities. May be an exaggeration,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes he just forgets so apologies for that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you lost track of what day of the week

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<v Speaker 1>it was, because you know, he's not allowed out of

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<v Speaker 3>Got me back. His gremlins canceled my video for about

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<v Speaker 3>two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. I can see you again. It's always a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure seeing you're still in your second your second studio.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I tried to get the virtual background on

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<v Speaker 3>so I could fool you and you would think I

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<v Speaker 3>was in New Jersey, but I couldn't get it to

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<v Speaker 3>go on this morning, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You make okay, So I'm supposed to feel sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>you because you're in New York or okay, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>let that sit anyway. Please do please do a switch

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<v Speaker 1>in time. You know almost anticipated you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had asked me before I got the copy of your column,

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<v Speaker 1>which comes out tonight at midnight, what you might talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, perhaps Tulsea Gabbard might be on

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<v Speaker 1>the list.

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<v Speaker 3>What Shakespeare once said, Lily's that fester smell far worse

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<v Speaker 3>than weeds. There is no worse enemy than a former friend.

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<v Speaker 3>And when she was nominated, or when Donald Trump, the

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<v Speaker 3>President elect, indicated his intention to nominate her to run

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<v Speaker 3>all of the intelligence agencies, those of us in the

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<v Speaker 3>libertarian world, those of us who believe that the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 3>in this case, the Fourth Amendment, means what it says,

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<v Speaker 3>were overjoyed. It was almost too good to be true

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<v Speaker 3>because as a member of Congress, Telsey Gabbard, her speeches

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<v Speaker 3>could have been written by Congressman Thomas Massy, or Brian Thomas,

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<v Speaker 3>or even me. She fiercely opposed mass warrantless spying. She

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<v Speaker 3>voted against the congressional unconstitutional but legal authorizations for all

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<v Speaker 3>of this nominated by Trump. Gets beaten up in the

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<v Speaker 3>press a little bit by the Deep State and by

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<v Speaker 3>their Republican accolytes, and she does a one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty degree flip. I'm now in favor of section seven

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<v Speaker 3>oh two. Seven oh two is the section of the

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<v Speaker 3>Paisa Act which was written after Edward Snowden's revelations in

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<v Speaker 3>order to make legal the unconstitutional warrantless spying on every

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<v Speaker 3>American that Snowden revealed. And the way they did this

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<v Speaker 3>was to say, well, we have to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>spy on foreign persons. The fourth and moment doesn't apply

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<v Speaker 3>to foreigners. That it applies to everybody. Just read the language.

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<v Speaker 3>It applies to all people. Foreign persons are people, so

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<v Speaker 3>we can spy without warrants on foreign persons. So what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when those foreigners talk to Americans? What happens when

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<v Speaker 3>I talk to my cousins in Florence, or an art

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<v Speaker 3>dealer in Geneva or a bookseller in London, Well, then

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<v Speaker 3>they can listen to that person's calls, not just with me,

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<v Speaker 3>but all of their calls. And they can listen to

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<v Speaker 3>my calls because I spoke to a foreign person, and

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<v Speaker 3>not just my calls, but everybody that I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody that they talk to, and carry that out

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<v Speaker 3>to the sixth generation of conversations. Do the math that

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<v Speaker 3>covers all three hundred and thirty million Americans in spite

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<v Speaker 3>on without warrants legally under Section seven oh two, profoundly unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 3>condemned and rejected by Telsea Gabbert, and now embraced by her.

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<v Speaker 3>So she can get this job, Well, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>like me being nominated for the Supreme Court, and in

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<v Speaker 3>order to get confirmed, I came out and said, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in favor of the American government spying and everybody. The

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<v Speaker 3>Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it says.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you would never say that much in

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<v Speaker 1>the same way you said you would say you never

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<v Speaker 1>embrace abortion. But beyond that did she offered up an

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for her dramatic flip.

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<v Speaker 3>No, she has not, And I'm I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>there's anybody on the Senate Intelligence Committee which will ate her,

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<v Speaker 3>who shares our views. My guess is there is not. Normally,

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<v Speaker 3>the powers that be do not put a person on

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<v Speaker 3>either the Senator or the House Intelligence Committee who believes

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<v Speaker 3>that the intelligence community should comply with the Constitution like

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the government. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>anybody is going to ask her this. Her flip was

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<v Speaker 3>not made public. It was just leaked out by the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump transition team. It's mind boggling. President Trump knows he

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<v Speaker 3>knows this because I explained it to him personally privately.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the part of the law that was used

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<v Speaker 3>to spy on you and me when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>your office in Trump Tower, before you were the president

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States. And this is the part of

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<v Speaker 3>the law that Jim Comey, whom you fired and company

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<v Speaker 3>used to spy on you during your first term in office.

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<v Speaker 3>And now this second part I didn't say to him

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<v Speaker 3>because I haven't spoken to him recently. And you want

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<v Speaker 3>her to embrace this part of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is mind boggling. And who more than a

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<v Speaker 1>president of the United States of America talks to foreigners.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he talks to foreign leaders all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already opened the door of him to firms to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, just literally spied on because he has

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<v Speaker 1>communications with foreign leaders. It's part of his job requirement.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I once asked one of my ex CIA

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<v Speaker 3>guys that's on Judging Freedom, does the intelligence community spy

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<v Speaker 3>on the White House? And sort of a guilty look

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<v Speaker 3>appeared in his face, and he said yes. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I had answered this question truthfully while I was still

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<v Speaker 3>in the government's employee I'd be looking for work.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I said, does Massad spy on the White House?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said more effectively than our own intelligence agencies do. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Is right? Well, apparently the Israelis do have the best

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<v Speaker 1>spy operation around. That's a room or on the street. Anyway, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just qualify this or at least further dive

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<v Speaker 1>into it, because you know, having a conversation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one presumes this is sort of a telephone call, you

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<v Speaker 1>may say, when you call your aunt in Naples or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but this would also be online communications as well.

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<v Speaker 3>If I am community, Yes, it's texting, it's emailing and

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<v Speaker 3>phone calling. It's all communications. What Snowden revealed. Snowdon's revelations

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<v Speaker 3>are now ten years old. Wow. But what Snowden revealed

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<v Speaker 3>is that every keystroke I'm holding up my iPhone on

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<v Speaker 3>every mobile device, every laptop, and every desktop is captured

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<v Speaker 3>by the FEDS. Now they captured in real time. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't monitor it in real time because they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the assets, they don't have the human beings to monitor

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<v Speaker 3>it in real time. If they monitored it in real time,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these tragedies wouldn't occur. The tragedy and

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<v Speaker 3>Bourbon Street on New Year's Eve I think it was,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe it was New Year's Day. By the time

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<v Speaker 3>it actually happened, that would never happen because they would

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<v Speaker 3>have seen all this guy's texts and emails, all the

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<v Speaker 3>plotting and planning that they now have. So if all

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<v Speaker 3>this spying on us is information overload to the point

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<v Speaker 3>where they can't even use it to keep us safe,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the value of it? Indeed, I only have

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<v Speaker 3>it unconstitutional. Not only is it a violation of our

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<v Speaker 3>natural rights, it doesn't work well.

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<v Speaker 1>And to the extent they said, well, we can use

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<v Speaker 1>it in prosecutions after the fact, you know, to prove

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<v Speaker 1>motive and to sort of support the allegations against them

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<v Speaker 1>for murder or terrorism or what have you. But that

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<v Speaker 1>would open the door to someone making a legal challenge

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<v Speaker 1>in core like along the lines of emotion to suppress

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<v Speaker 3>That's the last thing that they want. I will never

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<v Speaker 3>introduce this evidence because the last thing they want is

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<v Speaker 3>for some federal judge to invalidate the statute. There are

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<v Speaker 3>portions of the Patriot Act that have been invalidated by

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<v Speaker 3>federal judges, three or four in southern California, have one

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<v Speaker 3>very famously involved in the Bridgeport librarians in Connecticut. None

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<v Speaker 3>of those invalidations were appealed to circuit courts because of facts,

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<v Speaker 3>were terrified they'd be affirmed. So all they try to

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<v Speaker 3>do now is avoid those particular federal judges.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a disgrace, indeed it is. And let me just

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that you make a very valid point information overload,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no possible way anyone could ever real time monitor this.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's what the big rush for artificial intelligence is,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe AI could process this filter through language and

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<v Speaker 1>shoot up red flags for communications that contain sort of

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<v Speaker 1>warning sign language in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably probably so, George Orwell was right. He was just

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<v Speaker 3>off by a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>No question about it. Well as we always do. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>end the segment on judging freedom your podcasts, and I

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<v Speaker 1>encourage my listeners to find it online. And who are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be speaking with today, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>I have Aaron Mate today, Pepe Escobar, Phil Geraldy and

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow the great You should have been seated where Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Hegseth was yesterday. But life doesn't always work out for

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<v Speaker 3>the best. Colonel Douglas McGregor.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, great line up, your honor, and always a

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<v Speaker 1>great conversation with you. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis and

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<v Speaker 1>your ongoing support of the Fourth Amendment, in spite of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that no one in power seems to Carol

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<v Speaker 1>Witt about it until next Wednesday, my friend, best of health.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure, sir. It's eight forty right now. I fifty

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