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Speaker 1: A very happy Wednesday to you. Always a great time
Speaker 1: to be listening to the fifty five CARSS Morning Show.
Speaker 1: Appointment listening is what I call it, and I sit
Speaker 1: on the edge of my seat waiting around for Wednesdays
Speaker 1: at eight thirty to talk to Judge Andrew Nepolitana. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: my dear friend. It's a real pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 3: What a shot.
Speaker 1: He froze up? What happened, Joe, Well, we'll have to
Speaker 1: reboot him. Okay, there he is, Okay, you are back.
Speaker 1: You're not chopliff. You almost got it out before the
Speaker 1: before the network froze up there. But now I you know,
Speaker 1: some of the days, like I said, he does traffic
Speaker 1: for about nineteen or twenty different cities. May be an exaggeration,
Speaker 1: but sometimes he just forgets so apologies for that. I
Speaker 1: think you lost track of what day of the week
Speaker 1: it was, because you know, he's not allowed out of
Speaker 1: the room. Back there, right, he.
Speaker 3: Got me back. His gremlins canceled my video for about
Speaker 3: two seconds.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I can see you again. It's always a
Speaker 1: pleasure seeing you're still in your second your second studio.
Speaker 1: You're still in New York.
Speaker 3: I am. I tried to get the virtual background on
Speaker 3: so I could fool you and you would think I
Speaker 3: was in New Jersey, but I couldn't get it to
Speaker 3: go on this morning, So.
Speaker 1: You make okay, So I'm supposed to feel sorry for
Speaker 1: you because you're in New York or okay, I'll just
Speaker 1: let that sit anyway. Please do please do a switch
Speaker 1: in time. You know almost anticipated you know, if you
Speaker 1: had asked me before I got the copy of your column,
Speaker 1: which comes out tonight at midnight, what you might talk about.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, perhaps Tulsea Gabbard might be on
Speaker 1: the list.
Speaker 3: What Shakespeare once said, Lily's that fester smell far worse
Speaker 3: than weeds. There is no worse enemy than a former friend.
Speaker 3: And when she was nominated, or when Donald Trump, the
Speaker 3: President elect, indicated his intention to nominate her to run
Speaker 3: all of the intelligence agencies, those of us in the
Speaker 3: libertarian world, those of us who believe that the Constitution,
Speaker 3: in this case, the Fourth Amendment, means what it says,
Speaker 3: were overjoyed. It was almost too good to be true
Speaker 3: because as a member of Congress, Telsey Gabbard, her speeches
Speaker 3: could have been written by Congressman Thomas Massy, or Brian Thomas,
Speaker 3: or even me. She fiercely opposed mass warrantless spying. She
Speaker 3: voted against the congressional unconstitutional but legal authorizations for all
Speaker 3: of this nominated by Trump. Gets beaten up in the
Speaker 3: press a little bit by the Deep State and by
Speaker 3: their Republican accolytes, and she does a one hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty degree flip. I'm now in favor of section seven
Speaker 3: oh two. Seven oh two is the section of the
Speaker 3: Paisa Act which was written after Edward Snowden's revelations in
Speaker 3: order to make legal the unconstitutional warrantless spying on every
Speaker 3: American that Snowden revealed. And the way they did this
Speaker 3: was to say, well, we have to be able to
Speaker 3: spy on foreign persons. The fourth and moment doesn't apply
Speaker 3: to foreigners. That it applies to everybody. Just read the language.
Speaker 3: It applies to all people. Foreign persons are people, so
Speaker 3: we can spy without warrants on foreign persons. So what
Speaker 3: happens when those foreigners talk to Americans? What happens when
Speaker 3: I talk to my cousins in Florence, or an art
Speaker 3: dealer in Geneva or a bookseller in London, Well, then
Speaker 3: they can listen to that person's calls, not just with me,
Speaker 3: but all of their calls. And they can listen to
Speaker 3: my calls because I spoke to a foreign person, and
Speaker 3: not just my calls, but everybody that I talked to
Speaker 3: and everybody that they talk to, and carry that out
Speaker 3: to the sixth generation of conversations. Do the math that
Speaker 3: covers all three hundred and thirty million Americans in spite
Speaker 3: on without warrants legally under Section seven oh two, profoundly unconstitutional,
Speaker 3: condemned and rejected by Telsea Gabbert, and now embraced by her.
Speaker 3: So she can get this job, Well, it would be
Speaker 3: like me being nominated for the Supreme Court, and in
Speaker 3: order to get confirmed, I came out and said, I'm
Speaker 3: in favor of the American government spying and everybody. The
Speaker 3: Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it says.
Speaker 1: Well, I know you would never say that much in
Speaker 1: the same way you said you would say you never
Speaker 1: embrace abortion. But beyond that did she offered up an
Speaker 1: explanation for her dramatic flip.
Speaker 3: No, she has not, And I'm I don't know if
Speaker 3: there's anybody on the Senate Intelligence Committee which will ate her,
Speaker 3: who shares our views. My guess is there is not. Normally,
Speaker 3: the powers that be do not put a person on
Speaker 3: either the Senator or the House Intelligence Committee who believes
Speaker 3: that the intelligence community should comply with the Constitution like
Speaker 3: the rest of the government. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: anybody is going to ask her this. Her flip was
Speaker 3: not made public. It was just leaked out by the
Speaker 3: Trump transition team. It's mind boggling. President Trump knows he
Speaker 3: knows this because I explained it to him personally privately.
Speaker 3: This is the part of the law that was used
Speaker 3: to spy on you and me when I was in
Speaker 3: your office in Trump Tower, before you were the president
Speaker 3: of the United States. And this is the part of
Speaker 3: the law that Jim Comey, whom you fired and company
Speaker 3: used to spy on you during your first term in office.
Speaker 3: And now this second part I didn't say to him
Speaker 3: because I haven't spoken to him recently. And you want
Speaker 3: her to embrace this part of the law.
Speaker 1: It really is mind boggling. And who more than a
Speaker 1: president of the United States of America talks to foreigners.
Speaker 1: I mean, he talks to foreign leaders all the time.
Speaker 1: He's already opened the door of him to firms to
Speaker 1: be you know, just literally spied on because he has
Speaker 1: communications with foreign leaders. It's part of his job requirement.
Speaker 3: You know. I once asked one of my ex CIA
Speaker 3: guys that's on Judging Freedom, does the intelligence community spy
Speaker 3: on the White House? And sort of a guilty look
Speaker 3: appeared in his face, and he said yes. But if
Speaker 3: I had answered this question truthfully while I was still
Speaker 3: in the government's employee I'd be looking for work.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Then I said, does Massad spy on the White House?
Speaker 3: And he said more effectively than our own intelligence agencies do. Wow.
Speaker 1: Is right? Well, apparently the Israelis do have the best
Speaker 1: spy operation around. That's a room or on the street. Anyway, Now,
Speaker 1: let me just qualify this or at least further dive
Speaker 1: into it, because you know, having a conversation, you know,
Speaker 1: one presumes this is sort of a telephone call, you
Speaker 1: may say, when you call your aunt in Naples or whatever,
Speaker 1: but this would also be online communications as well.
Speaker 3: If I am community, Yes, it's texting, it's emailing and
Speaker 3: phone calling. It's all communications. What Snowden revealed. Snowdon's revelations
Speaker 3: are now ten years old. Wow. But what Snowden revealed
Speaker 3: is that every keystroke I'm holding up my iPhone on
Speaker 3: every mobile device, every laptop, and every desktop is captured
Speaker 3: by the FEDS. Now they captured in real time. They
Speaker 3: don't monitor it in real time because they don't have
Speaker 3: the assets, they don't have the human beings to monitor
Speaker 3: it in real time. If they monitored it in real time,
Speaker 3: a lot of these tragedies wouldn't occur. The tragedy and
Speaker 3: Bourbon Street on New Year's Eve I think it was,
Speaker 3: or maybe it was New Year's Day. By the time
Speaker 3: it actually happened, that would never happen because they would
Speaker 3: have seen all this guy's texts and emails, all the
Speaker 3: plotting and planning that they now have. So if all
Speaker 3: this spying on us is information overload to the point
Speaker 3: where they can't even use it to keep us safe,
Speaker 3: what is the value of it? Indeed, I only have
Speaker 3: it unconstitutional. Not only is it a violation of our
Speaker 3: natural rights, it doesn't work well.
Speaker 1: And to the extent they said, well, we can use
Speaker 1: it in prosecutions after the fact, you know, to prove
Speaker 1: motive and to sort of support the allegations against them
Speaker 1: for murder or terrorism or what have you. But that
Speaker 1: would open the door to someone making a legal challenge
Speaker 1: in core like along the lines of emotion to suppress
Speaker 1: and go after that.
Speaker 3: That's the last thing that they want. I will never
Speaker 3: introduce this evidence because the last thing they want is
Speaker 3: for some federal judge to invalidate the statute. There are
Speaker 3: portions of the Patriot Act that have been invalidated by
Speaker 3: federal judges, three or four in southern California, have one
Speaker 3: very famously involved in the Bridgeport librarians in Connecticut. None
Speaker 3: of those invalidations were appealed to circuit courts because of facts,
Speaker 3: were terrified they'd be affirmed. So all they try to
Speaker 3: do now is avoid those particular federal judges.
Speaker 1: That's a disgrace, indeed it is. And let me just
Speaker 1: suggest that you make a very valid point information overload,
Speaker 1: there's no possible way anyone could ever real time monitor this.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the big rush for artificial intelligence is,
Speaker 1: because maybe AI could process this filter through language and
Speaker 1: shoot up red flags for communications that contain sort of
Speaker 1: warning sign language in it.
Speaker 3: Probably probably so, George Orwell was right. He was just
Speaker 3: off by a couple of years.
Speaker 1: No question about it. Well as we always do. Let's
Speaker 1: end the segment on judging freedom your podcasts, and I
Speaker 1: encourage my listeners to find it online. And who are
Speaker 1: you going to be speaking with today, sir?
Speaker 3: I have Aaron Mate today, Pepe Escobar, Phil Geraldy and
Speaker 3: tomorrow the great You should have been seated where Pete
Speaker 3: Hegseth was yesterday. But life doesn't always work out for
Speaker 3: the best. Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Speaker 1: All right, great line up, your honor, and always a
Speaker 1: great conversation with you. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis and
Speaker 1: your ongoing support of the Fourth Amendment, in spite of
Speaker 1: the fact that no one in power seems to Carol
Speaker 1: Witt about it until next Wednesday, my friend, best of health.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.
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