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<v Speaker 2>for the Monday night football action tonight, looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>to that matchup between the Falcons and the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>You got anything in tonight's game at all? You?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you calling it? A week after having

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<v Speaker 2>a successful wagering weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>To get successful in terms of college football and nearly

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<v Speaker 4>a successful NFL parlay. But unfortunately the Chiefs couldn't get

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<v Speaker 4>it done for me, at least in terms of covering.

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<v Speaker 4>But tonight, my biggest concern is I need Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 4>to do well for my fantasy team because you and

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<v Speaker 4>me both brother.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he's I want badly to include Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 2>here in my picks for the underdog fantasy play that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put out there a little later. And

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<v Speaker 2>I love Kyle Pitts. I's he's an easy guy to

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<v Speaker 2>forget when he was a tight end at Florida and

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<v Speaker 2>a forgotten season that was the year where we played

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<v Speaker 2>college football, but like it was just weird twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was twenty twenty and he was unguardable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you could make the case he's best player in college football,

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<v Speaker 2>and most people like remember that when you bring it

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<v Speaker 2>up in the NFL. It just hadn't worked out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because he's had bad quarterback play,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm hoping that because I still think there's value

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<v Speaker 2>in there in the in the in the pick as

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<v Speaker 2>far as him going over, rather it be his his

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<v Speaker 2>receptions or even yards. But uh, yeah, was he was

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<v Speaker 2>he your first tight end pick? I assume when you

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<v Speaker 2>drafted like I believe, Yeah, I believe so. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would Taysom Hill. Okay, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>would have to be. But that's what's like again, he

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<v Speaker 2>should be a weapon, and like in Atlanta, just hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>worked out. And I kind of feel like if if

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, with Kirk Cousins there and Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 2>stays healthy and this guy still is not really an option,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to wonder if maybe it is whatn't meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be for Kyle Pitts in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyways, we'll get back into that a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Some some news here locally that I'm sure a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you care about, at least I hope you do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a Louisvillion, you would want to know who

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<v Speaker 2>your police chief is. And Louisville has named Paul Humphrey,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say not Louisville, but Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg

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<v Speaker 2>has named Paul Humphrey the Louisville police chief, citing he

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<v Speaker 2>is a proven leader, which I would agree. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been really impressed with Paul Humphrey, Louisville native from right

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<v Speaker 2>here in me. This is his hometown. I believe he

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<v Speaker 2>went to sant X High School. I think I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Terry posting that. So congratulations to Chief Humphrey. Not a

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<v Speaker 2>good look that there's been so many different chiefs within

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<v Speaker 2>the LMPD office in the last I don't know however

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<v Speaker 2>many years. Yeah, he's the sixth person in four years

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<v Speaker 2>to lead LMPD. But I'd say, of all the leadership

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<v Speaker 2>that they've had, I don't see why he's not worthy

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<v Speaker 2>of an opportunity to get things good.

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<v Speaker 3>Things had it in the right direction. So congratulations to

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Humphrey. All Right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>On Louisville, they're getting tested on Saturday, and I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I try, I am tried my best to

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<v Speaker 2>not make it, to make it appear that they need

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<v Speaker 2>to prove something to me again, Like I'm not bothered.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why the hell will I be bothered. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Louisville fan. I love seeing Louisville in the top twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing Louisville being listed as a team that's

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<v Speaker 2>still like realistically has a chance to maybe make the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody really knows just yet. It's still early.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I think anybody that looks at Louisville as

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<v Speaker 2>a legitimate top twenty team right now, no one they

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<v Speaker 2>have not been tested yet, is justified with that opinion

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<v Speaker 2>based off of the coach who's proven to be a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty damn good coach, a team that was good last

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<v Speaker 2>year and brought back a lot from last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the areas that they didn't bring guys back, like

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback position, they appear to be better in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't wanted to make it sound as if, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out on them. They got to show me something

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday against this Georgia Tech team, because That's not

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm coming from. I'm just selfishly, as a fan,

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<v Speaker 2>feenan to see what my team does when they play

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<v Speaker 2>a real team, not Jacksonville State and not Austin p

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<v Speaker 2>It's all you can do is take care of business.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, if Louisville would have gone through the

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<v Speaker 2>motions against Jacksonville State and not covered twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 2>a half points, probably wouldn't have meant anything long term,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would have given some naysayers an opportunity to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they struggled against Jacksonville State and Ridge Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 2>So they've taken care of business. I think the best

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<v Speaker 2>word to describe the first two weeks for this group solid.

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<v Speaker 2>Not perfect, nobody is, but them being ten and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point favorites here against Georgia Tech, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>justified and I see no reason why they won't cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll see how it all plays out, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am excited to go watch this team play Saturday and

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<v Speaker 2>again a real game where you see where you stand

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<v Speaker 2>against another ACC team and you get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>start one to zero in league play. And right now,

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<v Speaker 2>this Georgia Tech team, they they've probably got, they've probably

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<v Speaker 2>got some fire underneath them, knowing that they came out

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<v Speaker 2>and beat Florida State, made a statement, got themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five, and then slipped up a couple

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<v Speaker 2>weeks later, lost to QS on the road, and now

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<v Speaker 2>two other teams have beaten Florida State worse than they did.

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<v Speaker 2>So not to say that they're I mean, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably feel disrespected knowing their double digit dogs here

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<v Speaker 2>because they were taking it to Louisville last year when

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<v Speaker 2>they played this game in Atlanta until halftime and then

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff and his staff made some adjustments and then Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>kind of came out and really took over. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited for Saturday, no doubt about it. But again, when

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<v Speaker 2>I keep talking about this first test, it's not because

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<v Speaker 2>I have doubt, and it's not because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're undeserving to be ranked where they are. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>usually you don't get to this far in the season

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<v Speaker 2>where you've got a chance to see some teams play

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<v Speaker 2>multiple games that have you know, meaning and value and

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<v Speaker 2>other than them just being two wins in the column.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no value in playing those two teams that you played.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's fault. That's just the way it is. So two

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<v Speaker 2>three thirty, and then as soon as it ends, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as the clock strake zero, we go live right

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<v Speaker 2>Rowhite Lawyers, sou Distracted Driver dot Com Anxious to see

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<v Speaker 2>what the reaction is. I'm hopeful that it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people celebrating. Wouldn't be shocked if we get

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<v Speaker 2>some fans calling in leaving to make the short trip

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<v Speaker 2>from the stadium to what's the what's the place?

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<v Speaker 3>Zack Brian at Bourbon and beyond? Yeah, what's it called though?

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<v Speaker 2>The Highland Festival Ground? Like people in louis are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>call it that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's more of like a an outside Louisville

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<v Speaker 4>thing because everybody just calls it the Expost Center the

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<v Speaker 4>fair Grounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here here, Like if you're a if you're a louivillion,

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<v Speaker 2>you just kind of know they just use that land

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<v Speaker 2>over there next to the fairgrounds, right be the executive

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<v Speaker 2>in right, Yeah, we don't call it anything. But like

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<v Speaker 2>if you go to ticket Master or stub Hub to

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<v Speaker 2>like try to get tickets, they've got to have a venue.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't just say it's it's in the field at

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<v Speaker 2>the Fairgrounds, right, Like, They've got a list, an actual venue.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I see it called that, like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be at this place, I'm like, wait a second, where

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<v Speaker 2>the hell's that? And then I'm like, oh, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where they just decided to use that big piece of

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<v Speaker 2>land and have the music festival there. But like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in town and you're like, can you take us? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>can you take us to the uh? Can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>us the quickest way to get to the something?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it called again? The Highland Festival Ground? Can

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<v Speaker 3>you take us to the Highland Festival Grounds?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>People like, let's say you're bartender at the hotel, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll probably know where you're, why you're there, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>wearing like you especially if you look the part like

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to the music festival. But like I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in Louisville, if they're asked by

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<v Speaker 2>visitors to help them you know, what's a good place

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<v Speaker 2>around the Highland Grounds, festival whatever, they'll look at you like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>So finally, they have built that up super fast over

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<v Speaker 4>the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Each time I drive in in the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell that there's more and more added to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I'm a little worried about the traffic situation

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<v Speaker 2>just for everybody involved. But I do think we we

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<v Speaker 2>we we really will have people that will leave the

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<v Speaker 2>game and try to make it over there for the

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<v Speaker 2>concert because you know Zach Brian will be He's the

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<v Speaker 2>headliner right for Saturday. Yes, yeah, so, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>great great action or great enter action they call it

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<v Speaker 2>action at musical festival.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's a lot of great action.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I've been to some of these music festivals and

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<v Speaker 2>seen some action, but that has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the actual music. So look, I can't I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a poser because I'm not somebody that's really

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<v Speaker 2>into music festivals. I don't plan on going to Bourbon

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<v Speaker 2>and Beyond at any point, just because it's not really

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<v Speaker 2>my thing. If I was going to go, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be Saturday, but obviously because of the game, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that. But it is cool to see

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<v Speaker 2>for two straight weeks like we are as far as

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<v Speaker 2>music festivals having some of the bigger names in music

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<v Speaker 2>across the planet, and in two weeks, for two weeks straight,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be people from all over the world

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<v Speaker 2>here to see that. And you know, Louisville when it

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<v Speaker 2>makes the news nationally, I kind of feel like, more

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<v Speaker 2>often than not in recent years, it's not been for

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<v Speaker 2>good reason. It's not been for things that really shine

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<v Speaker 2>a positive light on our city. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that's not how we are three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five days out of the year here. There's good

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<v Speaker 2>things that go on in this city. I mean, clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>we got our issues like everybody else. And usually with

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we are becoming a music festival city. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>who am I to judge that. I don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them. But when you consider these two

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<v Speaker 2>events specifically, and then you throw in I mean, Forecastle

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<v Speaker 2>is still a thing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's actually been gone for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I thinking of? You're thinking of Forecastle? It's

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<v Speaker 4>They did something this year called Gazebo Fest. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>People or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was Jack Harlow, wasn't it. He was there, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was his music festival. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>he put on I remember seeing a bunch of flyers

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<v Speaker 3>Don't we have another big music festival that the Real Bird.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's not obviously a Louisville festival. You're thinking of Forecastle, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Forecastle's been gone for a while, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's been something in place of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm just you know, having a brain far because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've known that they kind of called it off for

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<v Speaker 2>gone for a few years. They only did that once,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why. Like I know, is it

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<v Speaker 2>Danny Wimmer who puts on all these events, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure he could give a reason that makes total sense,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know why you would. Maybe it just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as profitable. Maybe it costs more money to get

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<v Speaker 3>I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 4>From what I've heard is that with the country artists,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of them tour separately and don't do the

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<v Speaker 4>whole festival thing. As much as you mentioned the money,

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<v Speaker 4>I do think that is a part of it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>It just it wasn't, as I guess, financially friendly to

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<v Speaker 2>put on the festival because it's really they're all the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just different genres, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And Bourbondon beyond his kind, they kind of have their

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of I mean, because heck Zach Bryan.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and Tyler Childers. Oh, Tyler's there too, he

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<v Speaker 4>is He's Sunday. I think he's Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of now, I'm kind of thinking maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>onmego Sunday. I don't know it'd get in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of NFL, but if he's playing at night, like I

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<v Speaker 2>can make it work. I love Tyler Schilders and he's

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that like I will always I will always have

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<v Speaker 2>a level of interest in seeing him live, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm such a big fan and I love him. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's he's another case study at least for me

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know why. But the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 2>way more famous than he was when I was really

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get into his music doesn't make me think

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<v Speaker 2>any less of him.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's a sellout. I still think the

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<v Speaker 2>new stuff he puts out sounds amazing. But he he's somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the first guy that comes to mind for me

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<v Speaker 2>at least right now when I think of like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't, I don't get up. I don't get as

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<v Speaker 2>excited for now that he's like super famous, and I don't. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nobody's fault and nothing's changed. It's just there's something

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<v Speaker 2>about really being into a music, a musician or an

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<v Speaker 2>artist or a band when you feel like you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in early and you know eventually they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be big, but right now you kind of you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have him to yourself, but it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 2>you do in a way. Like I saw Tyler Childers

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<v Speaker 2>open up at the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 3>Not open up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. He's made his debut at the Opry. He

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Opry is a weird set up anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>He only got to play like four songs just because

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<v Speaker 2>of how they you know, what a what a typical

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<v Speaker 2>night at the Opry, What that show really entails as

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<v Speaker 2>far as how many different people they feature and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>just different than like a concert, but like to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like everybody that was there was from eater ingk

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<v Speaker 2>Tucky because the knew big of a deal it was

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<v Speaker 2>for him to be there making his debut at the

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<v Speaker 2>Opry to hear how nerves he was and him acknowledged

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<v Speaker 2>it after one of his songs like that was something

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is really cool that I got to

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<v Speaker 2>experience as a big fan of his. And I still

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<v Speaker 2>listen to him all the time, like there's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't even know if this was on the

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<v Speaker 2>up and up er not meeting I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do it, but he performed. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say he performed at headliners like six seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy who did the sound like yet, who

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<v Speaker 2>was running live sound for his show, recorded everything that

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<v Speaker 2>was coming from you know, the board, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up hearing me talk about how much I

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<v Speaker 2>love Tyler Childers and how like I'm gonna go see

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<v Speaker 2>him at at the Grand Ole Opry. And he emailed

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<v Speaker 2>me and was like, hey, what your you know? He

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<v Speaker 2>DMed me It's like, hey, what's your email address? And

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<v Speaker 2>I sent it to him and he sent me. He

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a dropbox link that is basically an entire

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<v Speaker 2>live performance of Tyler Childer's playing like what seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be like thirty songs. In fact, he has to break

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<v Speaker 2>up a fight in the crowd by yelling at people

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<v Speaker 2>to stop fighting mid song. Like but it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>just him unplugged. It's like the it's I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to see him. That's how That's the kind kind of

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<v Speaker 2>setting i'd want to see him at. Not necessarily again,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd still be fine. And I'm literally interested in going

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday if I could make it work, but like hearing

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<v Speaker 2>him in a smaller, more intimate setting with just really

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<v Speaker 2>his guitar and his band and his vocals, Like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what That's my kind of jam. So anyways, it's cool

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<v Speaker 2>we're having these events, man, I really they.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to stick you up in top shelf VIP for

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Childers. Yeah, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody wants to do that, I would be I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be more than fine with that. I really would, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So again Louisville Georgia Tech. Will get more into sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the specifics of this Georgia Tech team a little

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<v Speaker 2>later on in the week, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>get back into the Kentucky stuff here, just because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they they had an impressive showing against Georgia to say

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<v Speaker 2>the least. I mean, it doesn't mean anything when you lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can still take some positives from it,

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<v Speaker 2>as every fan of Kentucky should. But I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>were back against the walls as lifeless as I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember their fans being under Mark Stoops following that loss

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<v Speaker 2>to South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it. I mean even people.

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<v Speaker 2>That I know that love Stoops were actually starting to

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<v Speaker 2>throw out the name John Someraw. And I mean people

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<v Speaker 2>who like I value their opinion, not just knuckleheads on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet. I mean people that I know that I

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<v Speaker 2>never thought would actually start thinking about life after Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>And here he is coming out a week after that

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<v Speaker 2>and has his team ready to play. If you did

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<v Speaker 2>not know anything about either team and just watch that game,

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<v Speaker 2>you would believe that those two teams are similar, like

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<v Speaker 2>they're on the same level, and we all know they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>If they played ten times, I don't think that game's

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<v Speaker 2>close another time. But it was on Saturday and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only time they played. So credit to Kentucky. But

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<v Speaker 2>the decision for Mark Stoops to punt when it's fourth

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<v Speaker 2>and eight from midfield down one to Georgia with three

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left. His kicker's got a great leg. All you

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<v Speaker 2>need is one first down for that kicker to be

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<v Speaker 2>in field goal range and you punt it away only

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<v Speaker 2>to then get it back with nine seconds left on

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<v Speaker 2>the clock on your own twenty five. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>just that stoops having not enough stones to go for

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<v Speaker 2>it because you have nothing to lose, Like, who would?

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<v Speaker 2>You'll always find critics no matter what happens, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I said this earlier, so I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>am being you know, I'm backtracking a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the well if he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>would he have to lose if you, if you go

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<v Speaker 2>for it on fourth down and you don't get it, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who's gonna be upset at you?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly there'd be somebody, like somebody would say that was stupid,

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<v Speaker 3>why they do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't change the fact that ten out of

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<v Speaker 2>ten times, given the circumstances and everything factored in with

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<v Speaker 2>you having nothing to lose, it's Georgia, you're down one,

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<v Speaker 2>you're already at midfield. You could get the ball back

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<v Speaker 2>with five minutes left and it wouldn't be a shocker

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<v Speaker 2>if you never got back to midfield because you're playing Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>So like everything about that situation said go for it

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<v Speaker 2>and just see what happens. And he didn't even have

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<v Speaker 2>the stones to do that, and it you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>cost his team, it really did. And it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most egregious things I've ever seen a

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<v Speaker 2>coach do as far as a decision. But like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know many other coaches because clearly Stoops is

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<v Speaker 2>a conservative guy. I mean, we know that clock managements

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<v Speaker 2>never really been his strength, but he's super conservative with

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<v Speaker 2>a play calling. I'll stand by what I said. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the offensive coordinator was a Busch Hampden or something.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy they brought in from Boise State. He may

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<v Speaker 2>be great.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's only been around for a few games here in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 2>But to me, that's the kind of higher that Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops makes, so he can actually still have great influence. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure even if it is a coach, like for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he clearly handed the keys over to Liam Cohen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let Liam Cohen call plays, but like Stoops could step

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<v Speaker 2>in and tell him, hey, we're not going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do this. Instead like you're going to always have

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<v Speaker 2>to say so, but this is a guy I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Stoops felt was And again, just just an

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<v Speaker 2>observation from my end, Like I think, Butch Hampden's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that probably wasn't getting a lot of calls from

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<v Speaker 2>SEC or Big Ten's coaches that wanted to bring him

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<v Speaker 2>in to call the offense he was at Boise State,

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops hired him, and you know, I think part of

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<v Speaker 2>it's because he still feels like he could probably not

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<v Speaker 2>bully him. I don't know what word to use here,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're a Kentucky fan, I think you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like Stoops has never really let the

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<v Speaker 2>cuffs off of his ocs. That seems to be the case, so,

422
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<v Speaker 2>you know, as conservative even though he's conservative. And again,

423
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<v Speaker 2>I think the best way to describe it is what

424
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<v Speaker 2>I said earlier, at least the best way for me

425
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<v Speaker 2>to describe it. If he'd have gone for it on

426
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<v Speaker 2>fourth and eight instead of punting, I don't think it

427
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<v Speaker 2>would have been like, Wow, can you believe this guy,

428
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<v Speaker 2>mister conservative decided to let his hair down a little

429
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<v Speaker 2>bit here. Maybe he had a fireball shot at halftime

430
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<v Speaker 2>or something, because he's loose now, man, he's out here

431
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<v Speaker 2>going like nobody would have had that reaction because to me,

432
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<v Speaker 2>it was such a logical thing that like, yeah, you

433
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<v Speaker 2>go for it here, you got nothing to lose. It's

434
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<v Speaker 2>fourth and eight three minutes left, you give them the

435
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<v Speaker 2>ball back. I mean, and here's what's crazy. We'll never

436
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<v Speaker 2>know this, but like, stoops, do you think he really

437
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<v Speaker 2>had confidence he was gonna get the ball back? I mean,

438
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<v Speaker 2>I know you were playing well, your defense had been

439
00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.039
<v Speaker 2>lights out and they looked really good, and Georgia had

440
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<v Speaker 2>no momentum offensively really the whole game consistently. But to me,

441
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<v Speaker 2>it just seemed like a really weak thing to do,

442
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<v Speaker 2>and it's an easy way for you to still lose

443
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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, you know, we play hard, like you

444
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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the stones to really take a risk there.

445
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<v Speaker 2>So again, if you're a Kentucky fan, I don't know

446
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<v Speaker 2>how the hell you feel, right, I mean, that was

447
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<v Speaker 2>certainly a tough way to lose in a game where

448
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<v Speaker 2>you had a chance to win. You were right there

449
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<v Speaker 2>with them, and you fell short and your coach didn't

450
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<v Speaker 2>even have the gonads to go forward on fourth. It

451
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<v Speaker 2>just seemed like a really tough way to lose, especially

452
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<v Speaker 2>knowing that you are coming off of a terrible loss

453
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<v Speaker 2>and you needed to win in a major way. And

454
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<v Speaker 2>now you're one and two and you know you could

455
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<v Speaker 2>realistically say you could be three and zero. I mean, now,

456
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<v Speaker 2>had you beat South Carolina and let's say you beat

457
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<v Speaker 2>them bad, maybe Georgia comes in a little bit with

458
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<v Speaker 2>the different mindset. You never will never know. It's you know, hypothetical,

459
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<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't know how Kentucky fans feel, because

460
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<v Speaker 2>you absolutely can look at this and say, yeah, if

461
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<v Speaker 2>we can compete like that with Georgia, we should. We

462
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<v Speaker 2>should easily be able to get to six wins and

463
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<v Speaker 2>go to a Bowl game and maybe not off one

464
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<v Speaker 2>of these teams we're not supposed to because if we

465
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<v Speaker 2>can play Georgia that close, maybe we beat Old miss

466
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Like that, that's not a that's

467
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<v Speaker 2>not a crazy thing to say. That's that's not a

468
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<v Speaker 2>wild way to look at it at all. But also,

469
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<v Speaker 2>aren't you more pissed off about South Carolina like I

470
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<v Speaker 2>would be? And that's just me. I guess it's personal preference,

471
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<v Speaker 2>Like it's all subjective. I would be mad knowing that, Hey,

472
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<v Speaker 2>if you can come out there like because again, that's

473
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<v Speaker 2>what That's why I'd be a liar if I said

474
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<v Speaker 2>out predicted Kentucky to compete the way they didn't have

475
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<v Speaker 2>a chance to win the game against Georgia. But I

476
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<v Speaker 2>know they have better players than South Carolina. If they

477
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<v Speaker 2>played South Carolina ten times, there's no way you get

478
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<v Speaker 2>that same result again thirty one to six. So with

479
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<v Speaker 2>all that said, like, how could you come out in

480
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<v Speaker 2>a game that everybody knew was a must win that

481
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<v Speaker 2>you really needed to have to kind of set the

482
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<v Speaker 2>tone and lose in a bad, embarrassing way to South

483
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<v Speaker 2>Carolina and then come out like it's just like it's

484
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<v Speaker 2>gotta make you want to pull your hair out. So again,

485
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<v Speaker 2>if I was a Kentucky fan, which I'm not, I

486
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<v Speaker 2>would choose to look at this subject. I would choose

487
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<v Speaker 2>to look at this from a positive standpoint and say, look,

488
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<v Speaker 2>or wanted two should have beat South Carolina and they

489
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<v Speaker 2>kicked our ass.

490
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<v Speaker 3>We know we're better than them. Georgia.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Man, when do you get a chance to pull off

492
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<v Speaker 2>a win like that? Not very often. We had it

493
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and it slipped away. But at least now we know

494
00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.880
<v Speaker 2>we've proven to ourselves that we've got a good ball

495
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:14.519
<v Speaker 2>team that should be able to go out there and

496
00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:16.799
<v Speaker 2>get six seven wins. Like that's a good way to

497
00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.319
<v Speaker 2>look at it. However, there's another way to look at it.

498
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<v Speaker 2>The other way to look at it would be clearly

499
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<v Speaker 2>negative pessimistic, which maybe that's how some fans would naturally lean.

500
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but what you did on Saturday really

501
00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:39.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that crazy. In fact, what makes you different than

502
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<v Speaker 2>Auburn last year?

503
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<v Speaker 3>In Missouri? The year before.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Last year, Auburn outplayed Georgia from start to finish, just

505
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<v Speaker 2>like you did in fact, Auburn. I feel like that

506
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<v Speaker 2>game as I remember it, Auburn hosted Georgia. It was

507
00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Georgia's first row game in SEC play last year, and

508
00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Auburn was the better team and still somehow lost. Uga

509
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.160
<v Speaker 2>held on just like they did against Kentucky, and Georgia

510
00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.359
<v Speaker 2>went on to have a phenomenal season, only to lose

511
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<v Speaker 2>to Alabama in the SEC Championship game. Auburn had a

512
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<v Speaker 2>losing record and went on to lose to New Mexico

513
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<v Speaker 2>State just a few weeks later. Missouri twenty twenty two,

514
00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.640
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, same situation. I remember this game too.

515
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I watched it as a sportsbook. Missoo outplayed Georgia, had

516
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<v Speaker 2>all the momentum. Georgia somehow held on one twenty six

517
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:34.119
<v Speaker 2>to twenty two. Missouri went on to have a losing season.

518
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<v Speaker 2>So just because you played Georgia close in Georgia's first

519
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<v Speaker 2>road ACC game of the road SEC game of the season,

520
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you're about to start mowing down everybody on

521
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<v Speaker 2>your schedule that's not as good as Georgia. In fact, again,

522
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 2>there are two examples of teams that did exactly what

523
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<v Speaker 2>you just did, and they stunk.

524
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<v Speaker 3>Let's be real.

525
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<v Speaker 2>They did Auburn last year terrible, especially for their standard. Missouri,

526
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they're terrible for their standard, but again,

527
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<v Speaker 2>they had a losing record, lost him an ACC team

528
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<v Speaker 2>in a bowl game.

529
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that year, all right, we.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Gotta run quick break. We'll come back on the other side.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Keep this thing rolling along, and we'll make fun of

532
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Florida State. That's fun to do, right. They paid Memphis

533
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>over a million dollars to come in there and put

534
00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 2>them at zero and three. Why is it so satisfying

535
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<v Speaker 2>seeing Florida State crumble?

536
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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I

538
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is just the genre, but like

539
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear I couldn't hear any words like I

540
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<v Speaker 2>could hear.

541
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<v Speaker 3>Something dance music, dance music or something not a whole

542
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<v Speaker 3>lot of uh steering. Is this a test?

543
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<v Speaker 4>But that is the question you're asking though, right, Is

544
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<v Speaker 4>this a test for Louisville with Georgia Tech this week?

545
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<v Speaker 2>So this is the title of this is a test? Yes, okay,

546
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<v Speaker 2>makes total sense then checks out. It's mean it's good

547
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<v Speaker 2>energy here. I like it's good gym music. I'm thinking

548
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<v Speaker 2>like I could see this being the music used for

549
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<v Speaker 2>like a pump up, you know video, good stuff. All right,

550
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<v Speaker 2>it is Coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's

551
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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nit coffee, that's me

552
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<v Speaker 2>the comp But hey man, mister John all on alongside

553
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.519
<v Speaker 2>is I've tasked him with finding songs that have something

554
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<v Speaker 2>in the title chorus about being tested as Louisville is

555
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<v Speaker 2>going to be tested on Saturday for the first time

556
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<v Speaker 2>against Georgia Tech.

557
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<v Speaker 3>I did.

558
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see who they played or what their

559
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>schedule looked like this past weekend, but they did play

560
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<v Speaker 2>VMI in a game they had no trouble winning. Fifty

561
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>nine to seven was the score in that one. So

562
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<v Speaker 2>somebody asked him the text line, and I wish I

563
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<v Speaker 2>had an answer.

564
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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

565
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<v Speaker 2>I can certainly do some looking and maybe somebody can

566
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<v Speaker 2>even help me out. But what Jeff Brohm's record is

567
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<v Speaker 2>coming off of a bye? I could probably I mean,

568
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<v Speaker 2>that wouldn't be that hard to go back and look.

569
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<v Speaker 2>But you know last year coming off the bye, you

570
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<v Speaker 2>bounced back in a major way. Unless my memory is off,

571
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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Louisville last week or last year unfortunately

572
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<v Speaker 2>had a terrible timing with their bye and they ended

573
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<v Speaker 2>up playing losing to pitt right after they beat Notre

574
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<v Speaker 2>Dame and then had a week off, which, again you

575
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<v Speaker 2>want to me weeks off sucked during college football season. Again,

576
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody has them in they're two now because of the

577
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.839
<v Speaker 2>playoff expansion, and you got to keep guys healthy. So

578
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<v Speaker 2>like it's not new, but like I think even players

579
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:09.240
<v Speaker 2>would tell you they don't like bye weeks. You want

580
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to keep that rhythm going. And again, if you can

581
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 2>get healthy, then yeah, it sets up well to have

582
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<v Speaker 2>a bye week happen at a certain time. If you've

583
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>got some guys banged up. But yeah, last year Louisville,

584
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they lost to Pittsburgh on the fourteenth of October

585
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and then didn't Plagua until the twenty eighth, but they

586
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<v Speaker 2>bounced back and beat Duke, who was top twenty at

587
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<v Speaker 2>the time, twenty three to nothing. So I don't have

588
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<v Speaker 2>that information for you, but it is a good question.

589
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<v Speaker 2>And now you've got me curious. I'm gonna have to

590
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<v Speaker 2>look into that because you know, I don't know if

591
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<v Speaker 2>I believe in that.

592
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

593
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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in trends as much as people do.

594
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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just somebody that when I hear guys out

595
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<v Speaker 2>there given their lock of the week for their picks

596
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to gambling in the last ten meetings

597
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<v Speaker 2>in the last ten years, these you know, this coach

598
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<v Speaker 2>has if he farted before the game, he's gonna score

599
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty or more points in the third quarter. Like because

600
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>he did it five years ago has nothing to do

601
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<v Speaker 2>with day. Like it might speak to like history of

602
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 2>performing well, but like statistical statistical trends from previous seasons

603
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>have nothing to do with the current season. So like

604
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>and they're even more puzzling to me when you bring

605
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<v Speaker 2>them up about coaches, coaches aren't even out the aren't

606
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<v Speaker 2>even like if you're bringing up a stat and citing

607
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<v Speaker 2>a coach as teams that have done this in that

608
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<v Speaker 2>over multiple different eras, Like, I don't really see the

609
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<v Speaker 2>value in that. But anyways, I'm gonna look into that,

610
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<v Speaker 2>because again you've got me curious. All right, back to

611
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<v Speaker 2>the texta lin and this text line says it's crazy

612
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<v Speaker 2>to me, or this text on the text line, I

613
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<v Speaker 2>should say, Ellen n Federal Credit Union text line five

614
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<v Speaker 2>O two six five three zero s of a nineties

615
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<v Speaker 2>the number if you'd like to text end. But this

616
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<v Speaker 2>textas nigga's crazy to me that notreed Aim, with the

617
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<v Speaker 2>lost in Northern Illinois, still has a better percentage chance

618
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<v Speaker 2>than Louisville among many other teams at making the playoff.

619
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<v Speaker 2>If they still somehow make the playoff despite that lost

620
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<v Speaker 2>to Northern Illinois, would that encourage other teams to be

621
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<v Speaker 2>independent and make their own schedule?

622
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<v Speaker 3>No?

623
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't mean to be so dismissive of

624
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<v Speaker 2>your question, but the answer is no. Notre Dame is

625
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<v Speaker 2>unique for a variety of reasons, but the most important

626
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>reason is that they have value that really none of

627
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<v Speaker 2>no other school could have as far as the national

628
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>reach with their national television deal. So Notre Dame is

629
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<v Speaker 2>not in a conference because they don't need to be

630
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<v Speaker 2>in a conference, right the ways, you know, the biggest check,

631
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the biggest source of income I should say revenue that

632
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 2>universities are making from their athletic department are their revenue

633
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 2>sharing within these conference grain of rights deals with the

634
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>TV networks. Right like the money the Big Ten is sharing.

635
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>The biggest bit of money that everybody's getting is from

636
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the TV deal. Same thing in the SEC, same thing

637
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>in the a SEC, even though it's not as lucrative

638
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>as what's in the Big Ten in the SEC. So yeah,

639
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean Notre Dame is independent because they can be.

640
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.400
<v Speaker 2>They don't have to follow any conference like. They can

641
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 2>be independent and make relatively the same amount of money

642
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>as a lot of these Power five schools power four

643
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>now because NBC will pay them that and they're not,

644
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in NBC for their investment. You know, they're

645
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>not in bed with an entire league. They're in bed

646
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 2>with one school and all their games are going to

647
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>be on NBC. And clearly that has been a very

648
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.759
<v Speaker 2>good investment from NBC or they wouldn't continue to have

649
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>their television deal with Notre Dame. So Notre Dame is

650
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>just they're rare nobody, and I don't even see a

651
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>scenario where anybody else would be able to do that,

652
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>because again, it's never been more important to have a

653
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of money aside within your athletic department. For I mean,

654
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that's always been the case, but it's I mean, whenever

655
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 2>you end up having to start paying these student athletes

656
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>close to twenty two million dollars annually, you know that

657
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of schools just have twenty two millions

658
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>sitting around. Not a lot of schools probably just expected

659
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>one day we're going to be here. So let's make

660
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>sure we annually have twenty two million set aside just

661
00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>in case this day comes, so you get a little

662
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>time to.

663
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Get prepared for it.

664
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Some schools will be able to do it just because

665
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>they'll have the resources to bring in that kind of money.

666
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Others won't. So Notre Dame can be independent because NBC

667
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>pays them enough money for their television deal to where

668
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they're not needing to be in the SEC or the

669
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Big ten. And I'm not I may look and I

670
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know, see if you can pull something up here, John,

671
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see what kind of money Notre Dame

672
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>is getting annually from NBC comparatively to what like Ole

673
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.279
<v Speaker 2>miss is getting from the SEC, because obviously everybody gets

674
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the same share, because I would imagine that the SEC

675
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 2>and the Big ten schools as of now are probably

676
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>getting or probably making more money than Notre Dame. But

677
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame is still getting a big chunk themselves from NBC.

678
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>And there are benefits to where they can do their

679
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>own thing. They they don't need a league, They can

680
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 2>schedule whoever they want, and they have this great arrangement

681
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that the ACC I think stupidly has continued to honor,

682
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>which is letting them essentially be in the league but

683
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 2>not you know, you get to play what three or

684
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>four of our league members every year in football, and

685
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 2>then you're actually in the league in every other sport,

686
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like you know. I still go back to when Swofford

687
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>had the ability to hold their feet to the fire

688
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 2>and say, look, if you want to have a season

689
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>this year and you want to play in our league,

690
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you've got to join. And one thing that nobody ever

691
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>brings up is that it wouldn't have been in all

692
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>a crazy request to do that, because here's the thing.

693
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>They're already in the league in every other sport. They

694
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>already are like halfway in the league in football, and

695
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Swafford had no interest in doing that, it seemed, And

696
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that was a big miss.

697
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

698
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's be real, if Notre Dame ended up

699
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>being forced to join the league, everybody was making rash

700
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>decisions during a global pandemic, and if Notre Dame thought

701
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>they weren't going to have a football season and the

702
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 2>only way to have a football season was to join

703
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>the ACC full time, hell, they might have done it.

704
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean they probably would have done it, and that

705
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>would have changed everything. You'd have a much different view

706
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of the A. I mean again, you'd be able to

707
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>go back to the table with ESPN and say, look, huh,

708
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>we got some more value. Now, let's redo this deal.

709
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And Notre Dame. As much as people want to make

710
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>fun of them and act as if they aren't as

711
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>relevant as they claim to be, maybe not with big

712
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>time wins. Right, they don't win in the playoff, they

713
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>don't win when they get to the National Championship game.

714
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But they still have a value in a reach that

715
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>even if you hate them, you would know by adding

716
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>them like they're Again, that's why when John and I

717
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 2>have talked about the compensary alignment stuff when it comes

718
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to the power for the only like legitimate, and it's

719
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>really not legitimate because I think there's going there's no

720
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>scenario that Notre Dame would want to leave their independence.

721
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>But like if they did, every league would want them,

722
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and there's not really anybody's out There's not anybody out

723
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>there for any other league or independent status that would

724
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 2>that would garner any kind of attention like that.

725
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Here's the answer to your question. So Notre Dame is

726
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 4>raking in about fifty million dollars a year from NBC

727
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 4>and then each of the SEC schools from ESPN is

728
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 4>forty nine million, So they're okaking just a little bit

729
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 4>more so very similar. So that to answer your question,

730
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 4>that's why Notre Dame can stay independent. If you went independent,

731
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't be able to pay for anything. I mean,

732
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>where would your money come from? Again, you have you know,

733
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.000
<v Speaker 4>there's all kinds of revenue streams when it comes to

734
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 4>ticket sales, and there's all kinds of hell. Lear Field

735
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 4>or IMG are paying you multiple million dollars a year

736
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 4>so they can go and hustle and make money off

737
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 4>your brand and all that kind of stuff as a university.

738
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>So there's all kinds of revenue streams, but the biggest

739
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 4>one has to be what you get from your television

740
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 4>deal in your conference. All right, speaking of money, how

741
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 4>about Florida State suing the conference because they feel as

742
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 4>if it's a crime essentially, that they are being forced to,

743
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, honor their agreement to sign the grant of

744
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 4>rights and be a member of the ACC. They feel

745
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>as if they have surpassed this league and now they're

746
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 4>being held back. I don't have the legal jargon in

747
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 4>front of me, but we all know what it is.

748
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 4>They feel like they're better than the ACC. They didn't

749
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 4>even make any bones about it. I mean, Clemson is

750
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 4>essentially doing the same thing as far as their lawsuit.

751
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 4>But you know, Clemson wasn't as delusional. I mean, and really,

752
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 4>Florida State viewing themselves as a bigger brand than the

753
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 4>majority of the ACC is not delusion in fact, it's reality.

754
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 4>But to assume that like now we're gonna We're gonna

755
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 4>put it all out there. We're filing a lawsuit. We

756
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 4>know we're better than you. You all are beneath us,

757
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna fight like hell because we are Florida State.

758
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 4>We'll rack up legal fees and all that because we can,

759
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 4>because we're Florida State. And then you come out and

760
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>start your season zero to two against honestly two great examples.

761
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 4>If Florida State has got their attorney in the courtroom

762
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 4>and he's just you know, he's just riffing off the

763
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 4>cuff about how Florida State shouldn't be held down and

764
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 4>held back because they just know they're better. Georgia Tech

765
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 4>and Boston College might be the first two teams that

766
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 4>he brings up as an example. And those two teams

767
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 4>beat you, and then you lose to Memphis on Saturday

768
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 4>in a game where you paid Memphis one point two

769
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.319
<v Speaker 4>million dollar i'm sorry, one point three million dollars and

770
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 4>they beat you twenty to twelve. Now, ohen three, Florida

771
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>State has now started oh and three three times in

772
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the last fifty years. It happened in nineteen seventy six

773
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 4>under Bobby Bowden and then it happened under Mike Norvel

774
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty one, and sure enough, it's happened again

775
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 4>here in twenty twenty four. I mean, isn't it crazy

776
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 4>to think about Mike Norvel losing his job? Even if

777
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 4>they like, they're gonna be a bad football team this year,

778
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 4>make no mistake about it. They'll win games like they're

779
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 4>not gonna be oh and twelve. But they're a bad

780
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 4>football team. It's been evident since day one. I think

781
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 4>the noise about how bad they are is only going

782
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 4>to make things worse for them. But even if they

783
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.840
<v Speaker 4>went like three and nine. I mean, he's not getting fired,

784
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 4>is he. It's just crazy the drop off from being

785
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 4>a team that could have been in the College Football

786
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Playoff had Jordan Travis not been hurt to now being

787
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 4>the laughing stock of college football.

788
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and they are, make no mistake about it. It's

789
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 3>just different.

790
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 4>He won't get fired because of what happened last year,

791
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 4>But if it continues in the next season, then that's

792
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 4>a different story. He might be the next billion apier,

793
00:34:58.239 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 4>maybe getting fired in mid season.

794
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he signed last year because he tried to

795
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>make people think he was gonna he was that Alabama

796
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>wanted him and they didn't. But he was like one

797
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>of many coaches who were able to not many, but

798
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a handful of coaches that were able to parlay a

799
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 2>good year that job opening up, and then your employer

800
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>decides to open up the checkbook and really lock you

801
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>down long term. So he signed an eight year extension

802
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 2>with more than eighty four million before incentives, and that

803
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>is a fresh contract. So like the buyout, it cost

804
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>sixty five million dollars to get rid of him. I

805
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>mean yeah, I mean if you right now, he'd be

806
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>paid sixty five million not to coach the seminals and

807
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 2>it would be you know, like that's just you thought

808
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you were gonna have to worry about money for nil

809
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and money for paying the athletes. WI you're gonna have

810
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 2>to start doing. You may have to worry about getting

811
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>money to get rid of this guy again. If he

812
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 2>goes two to ten. I don't think they could even

813
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>like they there's no way they can move on from

814
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 2>him because they can't pay that.

815
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they just paid.

816
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, by the way, I don't have the specifics

817
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in front of me, and I don't want to just

818
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>ramble about something without having details and facts, but the

819
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>belief is that Florida State's Athletic Department has been really

820
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>in a bad way financially. I mean, that's why Vince

821
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Tyre was somebody they were really interested in because Vince

822
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think Vince was a fine ad here, but

823
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Vince was somebody that was viewed from a business standpoint,

824
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>specifically as far as numbers. What he did at u

825
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>of L, especially during COVID, like it was impressive among

826
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 2>his peers of athletic directors in Florida State. I mean,

827
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>they've had a variety of issues over the years, but like,

828
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>financially they just haven't made the best decisions. And that

829
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>usually doesn't come down to just the athletic director. However,

830
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the athletic director is in charge of, you know, the

831
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>athletic department. So I mean, there's no way they could

832
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 2>even like they're probably looking at if he goes six

833
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and six the next two years, they're not firing him.

834
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>They can't.

835
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean I say they can't. I guess you can

836
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 2>always find a way. They have been trying to get,

837
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, funding from other ways to try to buy

838
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the ACC but like, how rich would it

839
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>be if in the end, like I don't if he

840
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 2>gets fired and they ended up using like you know,

841
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's just say they fired him because he

842
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<v Speaker 2>didn't win a game this year. Unlikely, but like if

843
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that played out, would that not be like the ultimate

844
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<v Speaker 2>like proof that your lawsuit was silly and your claim

845
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>of being I mean, you already you've already shown us

846
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>this year that you thinking that you're this superior is

847
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>really laughable. You're zero and three with losses to bad

848
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>teams at least, you know, teams that weren't supposed to

849
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<v Speaker 2>be good this year. So I don't know, you never

850
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>say never, but to me, it just seems like Florida State,

851
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>they thought they were they were, they had re arrived,

852
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 2>and now they get left out of the playoff. They

853
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>gave their coach a bunch of money, he might actually stink,

854
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<v Speaker 2>and they're stuck with him. Right, quick break will come

855
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<v Speaker 2>back and wrap up the four o'clock hour. Don't go anywhere.

856
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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorn's right here on

857
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety quick segment here as we wrap

858
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<v Speaker 2>up the four o'clock hour, and we've got all week

859
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<v Speaker 2>to you know, look ahead to some of the big

860
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>matchups in Week four of college football. Obviously, one that's

861
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<v Speaker 2>being talked about quite a bit right now is Oklahoma

862
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee. Is Tennessee's just i mean, completely obliterating anybody

863
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>they play, and they'll have a much bigger test this

864
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<v Speaker 2>week than they did in their recent game against whatever

865
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<v Speaker 2>MAC team. It was Kent State who they beat seventy

866
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<v Speaker 2>one to nothing. But I got admit, I've been really

867
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 2>impressed with Josh Hipel at Tennessee and it's been pretty

868
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 2>evident that he's he's the right guy for Tennessee, and

869
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 2>they made the wrong choice for head coach really since

870
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Phil former left, it seemed. But I had no clue

871
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<v Speaker 2>of his connection Oklahoma. Didn't know that he was a

872
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<v Speaker 2>former Oklahoma player, didn't know that he at one point

873
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<v Speaker 2>was let go by Bob Scoops when he was there

874
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>as a coach. So you got to think he's I mean,

875
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>he's going to want to win for obvious reasons, but

876
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a little something extra there. I would say for

877
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Joshipel to go back to Norman, and you know, I

878
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 2>know Bob Scoops in the coach there anymore, But still

879
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<v Speaker 2>there's something extra there no doubt.

880
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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the wake Forest and ole misscore I'm

881
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 3>sure you know ole Miss took care of business those

882
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 3>part of my parlay. There you go. Forty to six

883
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<v Speaker 3>was the score.

884
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<v Speaker 2>I felt like it could have been worse, and uh

885
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<v Speaker 2>after the game, which I do love that this came

886
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>after the game, and maybe maybe we'll find out that

887
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe Lane maybe misled us a little bit. I'm not sure. However,

888
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 2>like to get your ass kicked in then back out

889
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>of the game after you get killed, that's weak because

890
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<v Speaker 2>that's what's happened. So lank Keivin did did let everybody

891
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<v Speaker 2>know in the press conference afterwards that the return game

892
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that is supposed to take place, which I think that

893
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<v Speaker 2>game took place?

894
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<v Speaker 3>Was that in? Was that in? That wasn't net wake Forest?

895
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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

896
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<v Speaker 3>Surely that wasn't. I believe it was on the road

897
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<v Speaker 3>to Wake Forest?

898
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess yeah, because that makes sense as to

899
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<v Speaker 2>why they're a little upset, because, yeah, they're buying out

900
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest after getting killed. Had their athletic director notify

901
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss's athletic director they're buying out of the rest

902
00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>of that contract, and.

903
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<v Speaker 3>Uh, taking a page out of the n in a playbook.

904
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<v Speaker 2>But to give Indiana a little bit of credit, they

905
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<v Speaker 2>did it before they played. That's true, you know what

906
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like even if they would have won.

907
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<v Speaker 3>And they still played the neutral site matchup.

908
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like you know they but we knew heading

909
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<v Speaker 2>into that game in Indie that they had already decided

910
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<v Speaker 2>they weren't gonna do it anymore. Yes, wake Forest was

911
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<v Speaker 2>gonna wait and see, right, like, let's see how bad

912
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<v Speaker 2>do we get killed? Then we'll decide if we want

913
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<v Speaker 2>to make that trip to Oxford. And you know they

914
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<v Speaker 2>decided not to make that trip. So again, we've got

915
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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the weekend. We'll get into it a

916
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<v Speaker 2>little bit in the five o'clock hour here to talk

917
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<v Speaker 2>about some of the big matchups coming up this upcoming weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But the NFL not over yet. We've got Monday Night

919
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<v Speaker 2>football tonight. I've got some picks I want to share

920
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<v Speaker 2>with you guys for underdog Fantasy. I've got what I'm

921
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<v Speaker 2>gonna what I'm gonna put together and hopefully I win

922
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<v Speaker 2>some money. I know I was happy to see that

923
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<v Speaker 2>that win yesterday on the Underdog Fantasy apps. So again

924
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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to that in the five o'clock hour and

925
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<v Speaker 2>finished strong. Here it's a Monday, it's coffee and company

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<v Speaker 2>and we are feel about Thornton's right here on sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety