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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>So is it the American.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to let Colleen Maxwell out of jail in order

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<v Speaker 1>to convict a lot of child rapists? Keeping in mind

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<v Speaker 1>and my mind, at least she's a child rapist. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think would you make that deal? Three oh

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<v Speaker 1>three seven one three eight two five five the number

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<v Speaker 1>text d an five seven seven three nine. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, and I think this far more important. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this killing field that the Colorado roadways and

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<v Speaker 1>highways has become, in large part because the Left has

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<v Speaker 1>undermined law enforcement and so there isn't much law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadways anymore, in part large part because of

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<v Speaker 1>the legalization of marijuana and the green lighting of drug use.

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<v Speaker 1>And now on top of drunk driving, we've got this drugged.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other reasons as well. I'd like your taking

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons, but this we know it's happening, right, It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's even more insane as we as a society

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be willing to sit back and just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an acceptable casualty rate. Screw that. I mean that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a society that's begging for what it gets. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to stand up to these killers. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>no less killers because they're using a car instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. They're no less killers because they're killing your

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<v Speaker 1>wife when she's on the highway as opposed to in

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<v Speaker 1>your bedroom. They are killers. And we got to get smart,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got to stand up, and we got to

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<v Speaker 1>start fighting back. We got to put them in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>We got to take away their licenses. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something dramatic in a hurry. What should that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>So a question I have on the table for you

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<v Speaker 1>is do we start This is in menace a silver bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta start somewhere. Do we start by saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have a magic number one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where you are, if you go over that,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're going to automatically lose your license. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to automatically have to do at least a day in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And that assumes nobody gets hurt. Do we do something

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic like that. Now, obviously, if we're talking about in town,

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<v Speaker 1>those penalties should kick in at a much lower speed.

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<v Speaker 1>But do we have that magic number. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>caller who said, in Texas they used to I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's past tense. You know, they used to have a

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<v Speaker 1>lawwear if you did that, they impound your car and

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<v Speaker 1>crush it. Now I haven't been able to verify that story,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would get people's attention. So we're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of intelligent text and calls on this. Would like

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<v Speaker 1>your take, because this needs to happen and the Left

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<v Speaker 1>isn't going to do it. In Colorado, the left shot

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<v Speaker 1>down just this relatively mild increase in penalties for reckless

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<v Speaker 1>driving this year, because the Left is pro criminal of

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<v Speaker 1>every stripe. But in terms of a ballot measure, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of people running for office on hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to save your life, I want to save your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to save your kids. Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a lot of traction in a hurry,

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<v Speaker 1>pun intended. So let's look at it. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>text on this, some really intelligent stuff. Because if there's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing we're all experts in, right, it's what happens

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadways, Dan, if you looked at the features

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<v Speaker 1>new cars are required to built in over the next

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<v Speaker 1>few years after Biden's term. And then it goes into

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<v Speaker 1>how I'll shorten this up AI, other tech, etc. Monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of car behavior, etc. And it leads this

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<v Speaker 1>text to an interesting question in the interest to public safety,

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<v Speaker 1>would you accept a law if it was constitutional, where

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<v Speaker 1>cars were just monitor on the roadway and they got

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<v Speaker 1>over a certain speed, They're automatically be recorded. There'd automatically

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<v Speaker 1>be a ticket. I'm not advocating that, but I'm throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the question out there, Daniell, your law should be a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of the speed. Thirty five and twenty five is

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<v Speaker 1>like one and ten and a seventy five. Really good

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<v Speaker 1>thinking on your part, but I still think we need

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<v Speaker 1>something clear, understandable. Every kid in high school knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows it. You drive over X, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting punished severely. You drive over why in town you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting punished severely? What should that number be for in town?

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you're in town number be? I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>in agreement on one hundred, though we've both done it

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<v Speaker 1>in situations we think we're safe. But what what should

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<v Speaker 1>the number be in town? You go over that number,

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<v Speaker 1>you're losing your license.

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<v Speaker 2>In town on the freeway on twenty five or seven?

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, good, good question. No, I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about off highway surface streets in town, anywhere in a

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<v Speaker 1>and you could define it anywhere in a residential type

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<v Speaker 1>area for.

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<v Speaker 2>This ultimate punishment that you're advocating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just an automatic. It's not ultimate to be the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty, right, but I'm talking about an automatic loss

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<v Speaker 1>of license, automatic to do a day and some kind

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<v Speaker 2>Someone certainly thirty over is egregious, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 2>into I don't know. It depends on the speed limit

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<v Speaker 2>of the residential area. If it's that way, then it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a little bit lower. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I got to tell you driving town on Bellevue,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be in Bellevue's forty five, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be at least once a week. Somebody's blown

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<v Speaker 1>by me doing at least eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Oh yeah, not like that, Oh not on Bellevue. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do travel on Bellevue quite a bit like

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that truck that would have killed Caroline if she'd

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<v Speaker 1>gone when the light turn green. So thank you Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>She listened to me and she didn't go when the

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five to seventy five and that was a semi Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got a lot. And again, doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>come back to because the left has undermined law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't much enforcement on the roads.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah, I don't see hardly any even like state

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<v Speaker 2>patrol on say four seventy or the wide open freeways.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see a lot of enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they don't have the support, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money, they don't have the money from the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>in the state. And then on top of that you

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<v Speaker 1>got the left undermining law enforcement to the point I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were in law enforcement, I know we're blessed

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<v Speaker 1>with many listeners who are to be really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>initiate any kind of contact with any stranger out there

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't absolutely required, because you know, you've got leftist

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors all over the place, leftist elected officials just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to make you a human sacrifice. Yeah, it's boy, Texter Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your texts at a good point going one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five on the highway in a new Corvette

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<v Speaker 1>that has made to go that fast, has speed rated tires, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Is safer in that car is than somebody driving a

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<v Speaker 1>big truck going one hundred miles an hour not made

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. All fare points, right, all fair points.

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<v Speaker 1>My only point is I do think we need something

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<v Speaker 1>that's clear and applies to all and in Colorado, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this or you pay a big price. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the total solution, but it has to start, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we've got to add to that. Right, if it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being an injury crash, then that automatic penalty

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<v Speaker 1>has to go way up. If it ends up, god forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>being a fatal, automatic penalty has to go up again.

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<v Speaker 1>If you disagree with the concept, you know, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation with you, because honestly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how anybody could. And maybe you don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>as big a deal as I do, which I'd completely understand, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because unless you have the kind of job I have,

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<v Speaker 1>and unless you're looking at this stuff all the time, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>normal people would have no way of knowing how incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>irresponsibly soft our laws are. When it comes to traffic carnage.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what you're experiencing on the roadway, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's psycho And you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the people on the Harleys and Indians and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, as Ryan points out, but this explosion, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is that right of the crotch rocket riders out

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<v Speaker 1>there going one hundred looks like one hundred and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>out of traffic. And I know that the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>common thought probably for a lot of people as they

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<v Speaker 1>blow by, is they're going to get what they deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I'm sure there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who look at it the way I do too, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my mom, I've mentioned this before, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I remember from when I was

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<v Speaker 1>very very young, is, hey, that's somebody's son, that's somebody's daughter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how stupid a thing they're doing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know the cars, You get somebody out

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<v Speaker 1>there driving crazy things like that, and then then a

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<v Speaker 1>That weighs very heavily. I'm that innocent driver who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had no chance to avoid it, but still somebody's dad

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of them after a collision with their car.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to do something here. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>something hasn't been done already? I'd really like your take,

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<v Speaker 1>not only on the fix, but why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>something hasn't been done already. I've got a theory on

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to run by you, But the focus

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<v Speaker 1>is on the fix. Three H three seven to one

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<v Speaker 1>in the Glen Maxwell topic, which is really heating up

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<v Speaker 1>right now after these two days of meetings with DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Heelan Maxwell?

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<v Speaker 3>Is something I haven't thought about it really, As I

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<v Speaker 3>recommend you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Something, I'm allowed to do it, but there's something I

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<v Speaker 2>have not thought about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now. There will not be a pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>There should not be a pardon. It would send such

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<v Speaker 1>a horrific message to pardon somebody who's been responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>so much child rape. No, can't do it now. What

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<v Speaker 1>would you think of DJ doing a deal where she

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<v Speaker 1>stays convicted, but her jail sens is reduced or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated in exchange for names support successful prosecutions. And how

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<v Speaker 1>many how many of these child rapists would she have

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<v Speaker 1>to help put away to be able to get that deal?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you come down on that? You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And now back to the Dan Capless Show podcast torture

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<v Speaker 2>in me?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Now I know who my friends are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you has a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful time in life. What was that about? Eight months?

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<v Speaker 1>I had that Corvette car I've never had. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're very selfless to turn that in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm telling the story. Thank you. Yes we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the garage space because came and then

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<v Speaker 1>car in the garage. That was an easy call.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I know. You're Dan Capless. If you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to create more garage space, you could make that happen,

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<v Speaker 2>right or do you not have a building permit?

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your confidence in me, but no, wait, it

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't do that. But what an amazing car that

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<v Speaker 1>was then, Lyles Chevrolet. You're original car, American sports car. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>text or in lines on fire. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to those two. We're talking about how to actually step

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<v Speaker 1>up now and like men and women and protect ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>from these killers on the roadway who right now have

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<v Speaker 1>their run of the place, and don't blame law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing all they can, but the left is undermine

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. Dan says a Texter. I work as a

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement officer in northern Colorado. Within the last month,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a seventeen year old a ticket for how

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<v Speaker 1>many points would you guess? Five? Seventy three? Wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old a ticket for seventy three points. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>And then it goes on to say I routinely stop

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<v Speaker 1>drivers going over one hundred miles an hour. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>need a law and that's what we're talking about. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to get tough in a hurry. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>have a magic number. You go over that you're losing

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<v Speaker 1>your license. All sorts of other bad things happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's just one of many tools we need. Brent

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<v Speaker 1>and Aura, you're on the dan Kaplis show.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also a retired law.

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<v Speaker 1>Enforcement as you're serious, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also I'm also a professional truck driver. And I

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<v Speaker 3>say this all the time, but I've talked to a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of law enforcement and because Colorado passed a law

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<v Speaker 3>where law enforcement is now responsible can be personally held

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<v Speaker 3>liable like the twenty five thousand dollars, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them don't even want to take the chance even stopping

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<v Speaker 3>any amen. Amen, And I think that's part of the

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<v Speaker 3>problem right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You bet you, you bet you, you nailed it. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for your service as a truck driver, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>always said that the true professional truck drivers they're great

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<v Speaker 1>public servants. The bad ones that there are a few

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<v Speaker 1>things is dangerous in society. But thanks for what you

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing too. I drive all the way I

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<v Speaker 3>seventy out the middle of Kansas. Routinely the truck that

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<v Speaker 3>I drive will tell me how fast people are going.

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<v Speaker 3>And I routinely have people like one hundred, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>To speed women.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, if I could call it in

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<v Speaker 3>in Colorado because they're so little law enforcement available. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they very rarely get stopped in Colorado. In Kansas, they

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<v Speaker 3>get stopped within ten to twenty miles. So somebody's going

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<v Speaker 2>I call them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you do. I'm glad you do.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend, I'm calling nine to one one all the

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<v Speaker 1>time on reckless drivers. Hey, do you do anything in

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains? Do you drive west at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I have, but not recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, good man. That has to be so brutal. Hey, thanks, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the call. James and Pueblo. You're on the Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome, Hey Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, I was just listening to all this stuff going

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<v Speaker 5>on with all these drivers this last weekend. This guy

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<v Speaker 5>going one hundred and forty killed a woman and her

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen year old daughter over here just in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, no, I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Just pretty evil.

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<v Speaker 1>So what needs to be done?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here's my idea. When there's been reckless driving and

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<v Speaker 4>somebody's killed that person, once they get out of the hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>they should hold over those bodies in the Morgue and

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<v Speaker 4>force that person to go look at those bodies and

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<v Speaker 4>see what they did, and then they lose their briving

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<v Speaker 4>fledges for a year at least one year in jail

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<v Speaker 4>and then another year of probation on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, James, appreciate the call. We've got to do

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<v Speaker 1>something really, really dramatic. I was just as James was talking,

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<v Speaker 1>I was picturing that one of these thoughts that just

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<v Speaker 1>haunts me and always will is I was representing this amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing single mom and her beautiful, beautiful six year old

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<v Speaker 1>son just killed on the roadways and we eventually went

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<v Speaker 1>to trial in that case, but she was so courageous.

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<v Speaker 4>But just.

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<v Speaker 1>Her having to leave his body in the hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of that hospital with him dead on that table,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just it's something you can never ever

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<v Speaker 1>ever get out of your head, and no parents should

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<v Speaker 1>ever have to do that. And the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>have these killers on the roadway, all ages, shape sizes,

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't care about other life. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to them. And if you knew, if you

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<v Speaker 1>knew how soft Colorado law was on these killers right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it would make you throw up. So lame the legislators.

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<v Speaker 1>It all goes back there. We got to change that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to empower police instead of undermined police, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what most politicians are doing now. Dan, to your question,

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<v Speaker 1>why hasn't something been done already about excessive speed and

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<v Speaker 1>reckless driving, it's because it's a hard decision to make

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to hold people accountable and Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>not good at that. Texter, I think you're being way

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<v Speaker 1>too generous what we have right now in Colorado with

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<v Speaker 1>the left. They are pro criminal and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>very mild increase in punishment for reckless driving bill and

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<v Speaker 1>the legislature this year that they shot down. They shot

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<v Speaker 1>it down. They are so habitually reflexively pro criminal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can only happen in Colorado one or two ways, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It can only happen with starting to elect Republicans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to enough offices or through a ballot measure, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats that control the state they are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, which is so insane, right, because they and

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<v Speaker 1>their family members, etc. They are just as much at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand the hypocrisy we get from these high

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<v Speaker 1>level elected lefties who say you can't have your gun,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can only have so many bullets in your magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they've got all this taxpayer funded security. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that hypocrisy, but don't these people realize when they're

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<v Speaker 1>out on the road. When they're out on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in't as much danger as the rest of us

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<v Speaker 1>and their families and as much danger as the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us. But it comes back to that the far

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<v Speaker 1>left has reached the point where their devotion to criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's folks here illegally you've committed other crimes, or

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<v Speaker 1>just folks who commit all sorts of crimes, their devotion

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<v Speaker 1>to criminals is more important to them than their own

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<v Speaker 1>life and safety and the life and safety of their family.

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<v Speaker 1>How do people ever reach that point? But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>point the left that runs Colorado has reached. A Texter

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<v Speaker 1>says Dan. We drove back from the Springs last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and all along I twenty five there were many people

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<v Speaker 1>speeding excessively and changing three lanes at a time, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a mix of trucks at Anne's, SUV's, motorcycles,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. I'm with you, my brother or sister.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of trials down in the Springs recently, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be making that trip back. But it doesn't It all

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<v Speaker 1>come back to the left undermining law enforcements, so there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't much enforcement. So it's like some sort of psycho

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<v Speaker 1>video game where you've got a lot of drivers who

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<v Speaker 1>just know the chance of actually being stopped is so

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<v Speaker 1>low they're just going to do whatever they want. And

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<v Speaker 1>this Ryan, this Texter brings us to an important point.

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<v Speaker 1>We have these psycho killers who don't care at all

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<v Speaker 1>about other life that we focus on, and we should,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of the left undermining law enforcement, we now

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<v Speaker 1>have another layer developing normally responsible people who just feel

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<v Speaker 1>going to do dangerous things they otherwise wouldn't do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a brutal mix. We got to do something. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think we should do? You're on the Dan Capless Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast five.

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<v Speaker 1>Point thirty six. Glad you're with us. Just reading a

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<v Speaker 1>text from one of the toughest people I know, happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be a state trooper as well. Dan listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show and getting my blood boiling traffic safety has

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<v Speaker 1>been my life's passion and work. Nothing in less than

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<v Speaker 1>a second changes the life so negatively. Yes, jail and impound.

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<v Speaker 1>The vehicle drivers hate the five hundred dollars payment to

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<v Speaker 1>get their car out more than anything. The car is

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem, not the car driver. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great human. I wish I could say

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<v Speaker 1>more about him, but he's out there. He's out there

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny because my dead a cop for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>I've had many many officers say to me, the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>all of these horrific things that you can never get

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<v Speaker 1>out of your head. Right, all these teenagers, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>who were alive two minutes ago and now they're dead

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody did something reckless and stupid, or the families

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<v Speaker 1>killed there, all these horrible things that that state troopers

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<v Speaker 1>have to see that they can never get out of

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<v Speaker 1>their heads. And then state troopers don't have the don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that the the support structure. I mean within state patrol,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a superb support structure. But just you know, say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Denver police officer, you have that, you

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<v Speaker 1>have that city, you have that, that family, you know

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<v Speaker 1>of fellow officers in this common area of terrain State patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>You're off and out on these long stretches of dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to step up and start protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>people we love and pass some laws and support law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement and make this place safer because we all know

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<v Speaker 1>that no matter what laws we pass, unless there's more

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<v Speaker 1>support for law enforcement, it's not going to matter because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't enforce the law. Right now, law enforcement is

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<v Speaker 1>so underfunded and so undersupported. And as the former law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement officer who called earlier said, you got these lefties

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<v Speaker 1>passing these laws, we're now law enforcement libel out of pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>personally lible. You know, if they're sued, how can you

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<v Speaker 1>the left out there ready to make you a human sacrifice. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>you say there's no enforcement, but if there were one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand cars going twenty over and only one cup, nine

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<v Speaker 1>times out of ten, he'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull me over.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I get it. I'm sure it feels that way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But we can all see it. Everybody listening, we all

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<v Speaker 1>see it. We just used to see much much more

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement out there, and because of the politicians, it just

426
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<v Speaker 1>isn't there anymore. There's some right, but doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>that much. Dan, in Virginia, fifteen miles per hour over

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<v Speaker 1>is automatic steel bracelets. The officer has no discretion. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to double check that. I'd never heard that

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen over in Virginia. I'll check that during teen in

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia does what it says? Fifty eight texter says fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles over automatic handcuffs, officer no discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know that sounds pretty Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I spend some time in Virginia. You know,

437
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<v Speaker 1>our son Joe working in DC this summer. Yeah, I

438
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<v Speaker 1>had no idea about that, Yeah, Dan, how about the

439
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<v Speaker 1>condition of our roads? They are embarrassing and dangerous. Where

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<v Speaker 1>does the twenty nine cent point two nine send delivery

441
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<v Speaker 1>fego not to the roads? And to what extent do

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<v Speaker 1>the roads continue, you know, contribute to the danger. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be hard for me to quantify. I think the obviously

444
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<v Speaker 1>we need better roads, right, but the vast majority, in

445
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<v Speaker 1>my experience forty one years now hard to believe. Of

446
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<v Speaker 1>representing people in catastrophic cases, The vast majority of this

447
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<v Speaker 1>completely unnecessary, shameful killing is because of these reckless drivers

448
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<v Speaker 1>and speed very very very often a factor. Now we

449
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<v Speaker 1>have many more on drugs mixed in, but it is stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you another example, Ryan, Okay, I'm representing this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing woman and her husband, the coolest guy on the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the earth. You got a trucker who we

453
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<v Speaker 1>were eventually able to prove, took his eyes off the

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<v Speaker 1>road for nine seconds at highway speeds in Metro area

455
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<v Speaker 1>rush hour traffic and kills this man. How much time

456
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<v Speaker 1>do you think he's spent in jail?

457
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<v Speaker 2>Ten years? Zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Come and on the civil side, listen, we got a

459
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<v Speaker 1>very very large recovery on the civil side, But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get this woman her husband back nine seconds highway speeds,

461
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<v Speaker 1>eyes off the road, not a day in jail. We

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<v Speaker 1>met with the prosecutors, We did everything you could do

463
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<v Speaker 1>under the law. But then you bring it back to

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<v Speaker 1>the state of the Long Colorado, which is nowhere near

465
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<v Speaker 1>as tough as it needs to be. And again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to hammer on truckers, because I have to

467
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<v Speaker 1>make this clear. I have a big focus of my

468
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<v Speaker 1>practice is on reckless truckers, and we've done these cases

469
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<v Speaker 1>here and around the country, and we still do. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing over ten of them right now. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>is that the trucking industry, it is this split personality.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one guy's opinion, right, You've got half the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>They're American heroes. They're doing an extraordinarily tough job, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't do it, we couldn't have our quality

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<v Speaker 1>of life. Much of the other half the gravest danger

476
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<v Speaker 1>you'll ever find, and it's getting worse, and people like

477
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<v Speaker 1>polists make it even worse with some of the stuff

478
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<v Speaker 1>he's pulled. So yeah, and that's why as we talk about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to man up? Are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>woman up. Are we going to protect our kids? How

481
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<v Speaker 1>are we going to make this state safer? Part of

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<v Speaker 1>this program has to be aimed at trucking. Thank the

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<v Speaker 1>great ones, but the others, and it's getting worse by

484
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<v Speaker 1>the day. We've got to really, really, really get tough

485
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<v Speaker 1>on reckless, reckless truckers. The last thing in the world

486
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<v Speaker 1>this state ever needed was Jared Polis stepping in to

487
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<v Speaker 1>cut that killer truck or a huge break because Kim

488
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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian will spred in his ear. You know, think about

489
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<v Speaker 1>the horrible message that sends, the horrible message that sends

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. Yeah, great text on this today.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you keep it up. Dam five, seven, seventh through nine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something we're all experts in, right, what goes on

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadways, because all of us spend so much

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<v Speaker 1>of our time there. Ryan Fascar was another good song

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<v Speaker 1>to come back from break Thank you. However, the number

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<v Speaker 1>of times Dan said psycho killer in the last segment

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<v Speaker 1>had me thinking of the talking heads that from DK.

498
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<v Speaker 1>How many times did I say psycho killer?

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<v Speaker 2>Psycho killer?

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<v Speaker 1>You know when I say it so often because I

501
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<v Speaker 1>stare these people down. I came out of a meeting

502
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<v Speaker 1>today where we're planning, I'm gonna be staring down another

503
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<v Speaker 1>psycho killer in a deposition, another psycho killer who killed

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadway.

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<v Speaker 2>All I can say is stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And all I'm saying is it is true. It

507
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<v Speaker 1>is true. It's that just so many people doing these

508
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<v Speaker 1>psycho killers behind the wheel. Dan, how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be a pardon for Glaine Maxwell? If it's

510
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<v Speaker 1>something that will benefit Trump somehow, you know he will

511
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<v Speaker 1>consider it. There will not be a pardon for Glaine Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I know that? Here's how I know it,

513
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<v Speaker 1>because it would be fundamentally wrong. It would send the

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<v Speaker 1>worst possible message. Now, will there be a deal that

515
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<v Speaker 1>maybe reduces her prison sentence, maybe eliminates her prison sentence.

516
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<v Speaker 1>You might see that if she's got information valuable enough

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<v Speaker 1>to the federal government to have that deal make sense

518
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<v Speaker 1>to them. Do you think that deal would have to

519
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<v Speaker 1>include Bill Clinton for Trump to do it? But you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to see a pardon. Think of the message

521
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<v Speaker 1>that would send. Pardon a child rapist that ain't happening, Not.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a pardon. But I think if information she

523
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<v Speaker 2>gives Dan leads to concrete charges and convictions, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would make a deal along.

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<v Speaker 1>Those lines, and I think that's what we're going to see,

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<v Speaker 1>a red cent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, if she is able to help identify and convict

529
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<v Speaker 1>enough people, I wouldn't be surprised if they eliminated herself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing media reports right now that she didn't hold

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<v Speaker 2>anything back. The Deputy Attorney General met with her, and

532
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<v Speaker 2>apparently she was just letting it all.

533
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<v Speaker 1>Well, they were talking about some for nine hours, right,

534
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<v Speaker 1>and so like so many heinous criminals, she's also very intelligent.

535
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<v Speaker 1>She sees her moment. She understands that if President Trump

536
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<v Speaker 1>now can be the person to help publicly identify and

537
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<v Speaker 1>prosecute a lot of those people who are involved in

538
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<v Speaker 1>the child Rapehill come out of this very well. So

539
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<v Speaker 1>she wants to take advantage of that to try to

540
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<v Speaker 1>get herself out of prison. But there will not be

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<v Speaker 1>a pardon. You can take that to the bank. You're

542
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<v Speaker 1>on the Dan Capla Show.

543
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<v Speaker 2>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about. So first time we've ever

545
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<v Speaker 1>done a show together, or the five point fifty break

546
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<v Speaker 1>wasn't working for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a good point. It usually is. But

548
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<v Speaker 2>I had to get that in by request.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to, absolutely, Texter Dan, I believe Trump was

550
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<v Speaker 1>there with the kids, but we needed him to save

551
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<v Speaker 1>the country as we know it. Wait a second. You

552
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<v Speaker 1>can be sure of a few different things in life,

553
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<v Speaker 1>one of which is there was no way Donald Trump

554
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<v Speaker 1>was having sex with underage girls as part of in

555
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<v Speaker 1>any context, let alone, is part of this Epstein Epstein evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Just no way. And there are a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>ways we can know that, right, But first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not him, that that is not him. But

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, we know that if it had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you would know it by now, right. I mean, you

561
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<v Speaker 1>have the entire presidency, You had the entire presentency abusing

562
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<v Speaker 1>the law, abusing the entire legal system to try to

563
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<v Speaker 1>destroy Donald Trump. If there was a hint of him

564
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<v Speaker 1>doing anything appropriate with any underage female, you would have

565
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<v Speaker 1>known about it. If they thought they could get away

566
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<v Speaker 1>with the lie, they would have told that lie. So

567
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<v Speaker 1>now you can be sure of that. Plus that's obviously

568
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<v Speaker 1>just not who he is. I'm not saying he's a saint.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying any of us are. Though I heard

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<v Speaker 1>a great, great, great line this morning. Ryan. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it down. The only reason you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>saint yet is because you don't want to be. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a powerful point.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So yeah, he's not a saying. I'm not a saying.

576
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<v Speaker 1>But Donald Trump is not the type of person who

577
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<v Speaker 1>would do something like that. And again, if he had,

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<v Speaker 1>or even if they even thought they could get away

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<v Speaker 1>with the lie, you would have heard about it. Dan

580
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<v Speaker 1>just did some more homework about Jena. Now looks like

581
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<v Speaker 1>twenty over may result in steel bracelet's we're talking about

582
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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. How do we stop the carnage? Well, first

583
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<v Speaker 1>we've got to really, really really toughen up our laws dramatically,

584
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<v Speaker 1>and then there has to be more support for law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have more law enforcement on the road. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the support they need to be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs right. But right now it is just a

588
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<v Speaker 1>killing field out there, Ryan, play Sammy Higger, I can't

589
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>drive fifty five? Yeah, yep, Dan, I love watching Fridays

590
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<v Speaker 1>with Frank. It makes one appreciate what these officers put

591
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<v Speaker 1>up with. Shock how many people are pulled over with

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<v Speaker 1>no driver's license or a suspended license. That from Alexa,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan the pardon will happen, but she will mysteriously pass

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<v Speaker 1>away right after. Boy, you would not want to be

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<v Speaker 1>selling life insurance to Glene Maxwell, right since it appears

596
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<v Speaker 1>right now she's doing a deal with DOJ where she's

597
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<v Speaker 1>going to identify people and help prosecute them. That at

598
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<v Speaker 1>least is the impression that I have right now. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think and listen, I'm not judging anybody here. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Bill Clinton will be part of this?

601
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<v Speaker 2>How could he not be? He's like the primary suspect

602
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<v Speaker 2>in the terms of frequency visits all Board, the Lolita

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<v Speaker 2>Express and Epstein Island. I mean, he's at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the list. Him and I would say Prince Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably. Yeah, I'm trying to remember factually, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember the story. Was the story twenty plus trips to

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<v Speaker 1>the island for Bill Clinton? Right? Yeah? Yeah, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it was just the Foliage, right, Probably the Foliage

609
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<v Speaker 1>and the Ryan and the sandy beaches. Oh careful, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, Ryan, Oh my goodness. Well, we're about done

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<v Speaker 1>for the week. Next week, Hey, let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>heads up on something I want to talk about next week,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about these sex crimes. I want to cover a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different twist on that with you next Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got this Colorado jail commander viewed strip search

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<v Speaker 1>videos of one hundred and seventeen inmates. Investigators say. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a Denver Post story from Katie Langford. It's said that,

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<v Speaker 1>in part, investigators say Aber aber logged into an evidence

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<v Speaker 1>website used to store videos of inmates strip searches of

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<v Speaker 1>more than three thousand times, often for repeated late night

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<v Speaker 1>and early morning viewings of body camera videos of female

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<v Speaker 1>inmates being strip naked and closely inspected for contraband as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the jail intake process. Question, should each of

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<v Speaker 1>those women be paid? Should the county, the state? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Should each of those women be paid?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much should they be paid? That's a question

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into Monday. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>type of law I practice. You know, we made a

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<v Speaker 1>decision a long time ago we would not take cases

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<v Speaker 1>against law enforcement. My deticop for thirty years. We represent

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<v Speaker 1>lots of law enforcement who've been injured in very serious crashes,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. We don't take cases against law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not talking about this from that standpoint. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it from the standpoint of fundamental fairness, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there are some legal issues that enter into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that the county do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the state should have to pay these women whose strip

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<v Speaker 1>search videos were viewed by this person allegedly for sexual gratification.

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<v Speaker 1>If so, how much should have to be paid? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that on Monday, along with you know

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<v Speaker 1>that this continuing effort and how are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish it because we know we have to right and

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<v Speaker 1>the left will not pass laws in Colorado to more

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<v Speaker 1>severely punish any offenders, and they shot down just a

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<v Speaker 1>mild toughening of traffic lasses year. So it's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be a ballot issue. So we'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation as we talk about concrete specifics and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you put it together into a

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<v Speaker 1>ballot issue. Do you think it had passed ry? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think people would vote to toughen up those penalties

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that everybody drives and oh my goodness, what if

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<v Speaker 1>it's enforced against me? Do you think people would do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Self preservation is a powerful motivator.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it really is. And the reason I think there

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been more pressure on the legislature so far because

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<v Speaker 1>our laws are so lame and weak. Is because, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it is self preservation. None of us want

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<v Speaker 1>to think that could be us or our loved one

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<v Speaker 1>killed in that next wreck. You just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>dwell on it. You don't want your mind to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that's one reason there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>this outcry to toughen the law is when we have

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<v Speaker 1>this mass destruction going on. Have a great weekend, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, tremendous job is always Kelly, you are human sunshine.

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<v Speaker 1>Join us Monday please on the Dan Capla Show
