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June twenty second, nineteen forty two is an episode that
has two different fan titles, those of which present some problems,
and I'm gonna go with the one that's going to
be easiest. The title we're going with is Nazis from Mexico.
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dedicated to all government undercover men, that invisible army which
protects our men on the fighting front in our industries
and secrets on the home front. Imagine Chief Counterspi of
them all. As David Harding. One of the methods enemy
spies have been using recently to enter the country is
to try and fly over our borders at night and
drop by parachute and some wild section of a border
state in All Mexico. Way back in the Sandy Hills
is a ranch on which is a modern airplane. The
ranch is about ninety miles south of Warez and is
well hidden in the hills. Tonight, a gets stop awag
and has arrived at the Mexican ranch from where he'll
be flown over the border and dropped into Texas. The
airplane has been pushed out is about to take off
from the ranch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ready to take off at the Texas border. Harborg
takes a suitcase. But this in a cockpit? Yeah yeah, yeah,
what is it? I do not go yet?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 6: A very unusual thing has just happens. Sing yeah, yeah,
No one ever comes this far from the main road.
But the ranch house has just arrived. Councilor Carlos Costelo Costello,
he is taking a long trip by horseback for his health. Seizinger,
make him leave. We do not run this place as
scave it. Oh, but I have a very interesting thought.
So suppose I tell him you are wealthy Americans down
here with your plane.
Speaker 5: You are going to take a little ride and the
moon in the sky. I invite him to go with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you cross the border, you will fly very low,
will be very unfortunate.
Speaker 5: But his feet and hands will be tied very tight.
Speaker 6: The door of the airplane will open, he will fall out,
he will be killed. He will find him with his
hands and feet tied and dead on American soil. I
see there will be quite a string between the Mexican
and the United States governments. A prominent government official murdered
on American soil.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hello, it is a good sort.
Speaker 7: Then say picture Tarans his friends say picture right nine
you like my little light?
Speaker 6: Dear eh see get stappoy shall hear about this? You
shall be reverted, please not by medals. I prefer my
reward in money.
Speaker 7: Go Ela, invite the official to join us. Zenbi will
see what happens. They're so glad you could take this
little flight with us canceror.
Speaker 5: Ah, so beautiful. I was never in an airplane at
night with the moon. He is so romantic.
Speaker 7: You are there, Councilor they have crossed the border between
Mexico and the United States.
Speaker 5: No is it not against the law?
Speaker 7: Or I am sure no one will have Jake, But
they have such a distinguished gentleman of the Mexican government.
Speaker 4: What is the meaning of this?
Speaker 8: No, you know the help worker, Yes, Hans tire s feaquen.
I tie his hands.
Speaker 4: All Who are you?
Speaker 7: He said, Gestapo, if you would like me know, why
are you kidnapping me? They are going to open the
doors a plane and you are going to fall out.
Speaker 5: No, you cannot.
Speaker 7: You will be found on American soil, and a very
delicate international situation should result.
Speaker 8: You are a foot All my bones will be broken.
Speaker 5: They will they will know I was thrown from an airpase.
I guess that was not so stupid. They will fly
very low. You will not be kid but your body
will not be mangled either, not as thow as you can.
Speaker 8: So Mexico like the United States, who belong to Germany.
Speaker 5: And you will be glad that you're dead.
Speaker 8: You're weak.
Speaker 7: Lah lah, Now, counselor, I should open the door, and
we will make ready for your weak experience.
Speaker 5: You put in Take quite at me, They brid me this,
don't please?
Speaker 8: What are you doing trying to fool?
Speaker 5: I cannot fight.
Speaker 4: I'm tired.
Speaker 5: Therefore I must.
Speaker 8: Pray, pray to whom full superstitious.
Speaker 5: And me said Arcion.
Speaker 7: I will not hear such tribble. They aren't enough hands here.
But do you have a crayon in your hand to
give me the Please give me a chance to leave.
Speaker 8: Now I shall push you through the door. Scree haa
con he faults, So that's it. What's up?
Speaker 5: Time back on the cross. Hello, Hello, this is Harding speaking.
I'm in the testing laboratory of the Walker Optical Company.
In an hour, I shall take a plane for Washington,
set up my apartment for me at three o'clock with
Colonel Marvin tele emergent emergency. Yes you wish me to continue,
mister Harding, Yes, mister Walker, and this is a grave emergency.
Now those light bulbs you have lined up over there,
are they lit now?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 9: But naturally, as they are high frequency lights, you cannot
see them with your naked eye. I see you cannot
see the light, mister Harding, unless you are wearing this
green hype lens in your glasses.
Speaker 5: This is a five three one now look through it
all right? Yes, so I can see the left lights burning,
but I can't tell whether the one on the right
is burning or not. Where if you would need another
specially colored lens to see that one. Oh.
Speaker 9: In other words, mister Harding, these high frequency lights can
be burning, but you cannot see them unless you are
wearing specially prepared lenses.
Speaker 5: Well, mister Walker, as I explained to you, this is
a case of great emergency. It involved an international incident
with Mexico. I see, how soon could you make me
twelve pairs of each of these two different lenses? I
believe by eight in the morning, mister Harding, I'll have
a Navy plane waiting off Pier three and a government
car here to deliver them to the plane at eight
half in the morning. Right now, I'm going to fly
to Washington. What can I do for you, mister Harding?
Colonel Marvin, We've known for some time that certain Gestapo
wagents have been getting into this country by flying over
the border from a ranch in Mexico. Now they're landing
in a deserted section of Texas, where they usually stay
for several days before leaving for different parts of the
United States. In other words, you've allowed them to enter
this way because you know how they're entering, and that's
better than stopping this route and forcing them to find
some other method, which may take you months to discover
that exactly. Colonel Harding, you know we'll do anything possible
to help you, our colonel. Tomorrow night, I'd like to
have about eight Army planes from Field A forty six
fly all over the state of Texas and into Louisiana.
I'll be at field headquarters in Texas with a map
to get their reports. What information are you looking for?
Speaker 10: Harding?
Speaker 5: Now, one house which we recently rated, had up the
chimney a high frequency light. The light can't be seen
at night when you're flying over the house unless you
have a certain colored lens in your glasses. I feel
sure that there are certain few houses, for let's say
two hundred miles in Texas which have these lights hiding
up the chimney. I see now the pilot who's flying
these foreign agents in where's these special colored glasses? You
can see these high frequency lights placed in the chimneys,
and these help keep him on his course.
Speaker 10: And you want to locate every house which has such
a riot? Y, yes, and it's vital. I'll have a
plane ready to leave in two hours, Harding, and I'll
fly down with you to see that you have everything
you need.
Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, our colonel. If we can have the
houses which have these invisible lights spotted from the air,
we'll know the exact root the plane's flying, which brings
in these spies right to the ranch where they land.
And say for a few days. When that time comes,
we'll be able to make a mass raid. I see, yes, yes,
But Harding, what are we doing about.
Speaker 10: That prominent Mexican official found and murdered on American sore
that's a very embarrassing situation.
Speaker 5: Well, colonel has something about that murder that I can't
tell as yet. I want to check in certain additional
facts before I speak.
Speaker 10: All right, Harding, you're doing a wonderful job, and I'll
see that eight Army planes will be flying over the
Designated Section of Texas tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: Thank you, sir. Just look at this chart, mister Harding.
That last report mentioned this house southwest square forty eleven.
Let me have that out of chart killer, Yes, sir, Yes,
noticed how this root's beginning to shape up.
Speaker 4: What did you bee calling? What did you see calling for?
Speaker 11: Egg?
Speaker 6: Come in?
Speaker 4: I'm flying over at Sanville.
Speaker 11: Get your shirt, gourd s where the ants or God
where he.
Speaker 5: Has or here's a square he's talking about Kelly, this.
Speaker 11: Square north seem intersection Main Highway, two miles from Khanna.
Speaker 4: Can you locate on your jot?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, this house right here, forty two P.
Speaker 4: We have located it. Forty two P. Signing off.
Speaker 5: I've got that marked you signal like on Kelly the
upper frequeens.
Speaker 4: I yes, forty two are Holly, forty two are Holly?
Speaker 5: Come in forty two? Are come in?
Speaker 6: Forty two?
Speaker 4: Are quere sick? He is sick?
Speaker 11: Northeast corner Intersection Military highway out in part of road.
Speaker 5: I've got that one to it's right here.
Speaker 4: Rost cake with field nights southeast due with right. What
do you two are riding all, Kelly?
Speaker 5: These houses being spotted are on a perfectly straight line
from the border right to the ranch we've been suspecting.
How tomorrow night we'll apply this route, check all of
the houses we're marking, and go right to their landing field.
I'll bring a short waves that along with you in
your suitcase.
Speaker 6: We've seen every night that pilots reported last night, mister Hardy,
as we should spot that ranch in that landing field
most any minute.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir Kelly, I'm going to tell you something that
nobody else knows. It sounds plenty serious. Mister Harney, you
know that high Mexican official found murdered on American soil incert, Well,
he was murdered by members of this spire ring we're
after right now.
Speaker 6: You mean they got him in Mexico, threw him over
the border and dropped.
Speaker 5: Him from a plane. Yes, that is No, it wasn't
the body of a high Mexican official, but his paper
he was identifying. I did the identifying. Oh and who
watched It was one of our own counterspies, Kelly Tato's
Alis Tito yes, I was working with the Mexican authorities,
who we suspected this Mexican ranch. So the Mexican Councilor
was taken into our confidence. He went into hiding for
a few days, and Tato, opposing as the Councilor, visited
the ranch. But he was evidently surprised by them and
dropped out of a plane. Good lord, but how do
you know? He was stamped from the plains to haunt
the old trick when miscot thing, he got a pensive
from the boat and hid it in the palms of
his hands. While his hands were tied together, he was
able to write on the palm of one hand the
word air. There's the landing field, mister Hardy. There's a
large ranch house and the two bonds. It's barn. All right, hey, dog,
we'll land and I'll have the pilot take off immediately,
All Lieutenant, land as far from the house as you can,
and we'll hide the suitcase with a short waves that
are out in the field. Perhaps they won't hear us land.
We can get to the house before they know we're here.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 4: What do you want? Who are you?
Speaker 5: B R two? We want to stay a couple of days.
My name is mister David. This is mister Kelly. Where
did you come from? Hussey? And the pedro over the border.
We've been traveling a long time. We want to rest
a day and then go on. Yes, I have a
room for you. You can have food here too. Are
you empty now or do you have any more guests?
Speaker 12: We have an Italian, oh, and the Japanese. I did
not want to take him in, but we are under orders.
And your husband he's up in the barn.
Speaker 5: You will meet him when he comes in. Is the
Japanese of the black dragons?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: And the Italian of the ober yes? Heile Hitler Ler.
Now I ask for one must be most careful in
our work. Do you expect any more guests tonight?
Speaker 12: Not for several days.
Speaker 5: You wish to go up to your room now, just
to clean up? And I think I'll take a walk
around and get a look.
Speaker 12: At things have to have rushed. You will find my
husband in the barn. You will again identify yourself to him.
Speaker 5: Calling forty two, be calling forty two, be calling forty two.
B come in calling from field that location specified. Locate
for me immediately. German couple about sixty one couple opposed
to Nazi rule. Check my file numbers for names of
couples already examined. Fly this couple to our present location.
Eleven thirty tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Check reports vision.
Speaker 5: Whatney to be off at all? Haright, Kelly? Close the
kate slip one of the bushes again. Yes, that Nazi
woman in there was a brutal looking character. Well, let's
get right back to the house. And I don't want
them to notice that we've been gone too long. What
did you think of her husband? I'll answer that a
little later. I'm not mistake and I've got a complete
report on him in Washington. A fanatic, isn't he?
Speaker 4: Are they all?
Speaker 5: Would they be nazy if they weren't well, if you.
Speaker 6: Weren't in on the inside of things, though, you could
stop at the ranch and not guess anything was wrong.
Speaker 5: Yes, they're clever.
Speaker 4: What was that?
Speaker 5: Quick? Get back of the house. What's the matter?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Where is everybody? I heard footsteps upstairs? Let's get up there.
Why oh what do you want?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 5: I was in a my room at the other end
of the house. I heard a scream from this room.
I come running.
Speaker 2: There's Italian.
Speaker 5: I got here at the same time. I was at
the other end of the house in a my room.
You'd better fix your collar. Looks like someone had grabbed
it and torn the button off. Here comes to my husband,
he would be very angry. Where you may I ask
when this happened? And the other gentleman. We were walking
towards the house. We heard the scream. We ran in
here as quickly as possible.
Speaker 13: Very pleasant, Tellibory, what has happened? Why did rand If
you scream like that, why are you standing.
Speaker 5: H I see.
Speaker 7: He was evidently stabbed in the back while he was sleeping.
I am not angry because the Japanese is killed. I
hate him, but you should have been killed somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Who did it?
Speaker 5: None of us seems to know, did you. I was
at the other end of the house in my room,
and you I would not have done it inside the house.
Speaker 4: You know you too?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: Oh, we were outside walking toward the house. You left
me twenty minutes ago. Well have you been since? Why
did you not come right back to the house.
Speaker 5: Because we were all cramped up from traveling, We wanted
to stretch our legs, take a little walk.
Speaker 7: So so many ways it could have been done to
leave no telltanes. It's the river out of a plane.
Speaker 5: It's like possibly you would do with a Mexican. That
do you say? Is that? Hallo told me of it,
the huse the end of Pedro in Mexico.
Speaker 7: They all thought it very clever, said man Handla talk
so much. Yeah, let me get him up on my shoulder.
I would take him out in bariments a few gladly.
Speaker 5: There, come with me. They would bury him to leave
no traces.
Speaker 4: I will go with you.
Speaker 8: Unhold a lantern? Do you too wish to come?
Speaker 5: Not interested? Thank you? Kelly? Will you do me one favor?
What's their kick me? Just as hard as you can.
Why wait a minute, I saw that jap Haman murdered.
By having an instinct, I started to ask questions. I
knew the Italian had killed him. All I've had to
do is to ask about three more appointed questions, and
there'd have been plenty of trouble. Come to think of it,
you're right you didn't think the woman killed the Jap spy.
I think they were all in on it. It was
planned before we got here. But the teaser you put off,
mister Harding, You've got results, didn't you. Yes, he fell
for it. He's the one who thought Zalis was the
Mexican official and threw him out of the plane. What's
our next move? Just sit tight until the army plane
arrives at eleven thirty tomorrow night.
Speaker 6: Mister Harding. That's the army plane all right. Now, kick
these glasses. It's signaling with the invisible light just to
the right.
Speaker 5: Of the moon. See yeah, good. Now we've got to
work fast while the plane's landing. The German couple in
the Italian are in the sitting room. That's Quinn, and
you will leave.
Speaker 7: I will be leaving in the morning for a ready
American manu which I will supply with it.
Speaker 5: If you two gentlemen don't mind my intruding, and if
it's all right with you madam, I'm heard to have
to ask you all to get your hands up. We
both have your covered. You won't have to do much
persuading for me to put a bullet right through you.
Ming Food, We don't operate like your gestapo Burger. We
give him a chance according to our laws. Why do
you call me, Burger, so it's not my name the
name I have you listed by in Washington. You forget
your activities in the Boon before the war broke out.
And incidentally, the Mexican government official you threw from the
plane wasn't the Mexican councilor. I don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2: He was an.
Speaker 5: American counter spy, one of my assistants posing as a counselor.
I'll promise you, Borger, you're going to pay for that,
and pay plenty. I'll give you money.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you all I know.
Speaker 5: Is ain'tenough of this? An army plane just landed outside,
and march out that door to the plane and keep
your hands up.
Speaker 4: Mister Harding.
Speaker 5: That's a sweet old couple the plane brought down, motherly
looking soul, isn't she.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't think that this couple who just arrived and
the other couple who we took out to the plane
were both German.
Speaker 5: Some Germans who were not Nazis. Well, i'll let them
finish looking around the house and we'll leave in the
army plane with those others we're taking with us.
Speaker 14: Then I believe we have seen it all. Mister harding.
Speaker 5: It is quite a place. How do you too feel
that you can live here and pretend to be Nazis
and run this place for the spies who come over. Yeah,
Mammy is a great act Christ when she needs.
Speaker 8: To be, and so is Papa.
Speaker 14: I will run the house and tie then look up
to the outside and the little radio station to send
you to information.
Speaker 5: As soon as the spy arrives, we shall want his
complete description, something that he's touched, so we can get
his fingerprints, where he's going, and any information about what
he has in his bag.
Speaker 8: We shall see you have it all, eh, Papa.
Speaker 5: We shall do everything.
Speaker 9: We shall give our lives to see the Nazis crushed
and wiped off the face of this earth. You too
must have had a terrible experience from the report.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: We lived just outside of Hamburg. They were happy, and
our two boys had graduated. Them were the ministers of
the German Lutheran church. It was in the middle of
the night, Papa. They get stop, broke in the front
door and dragged out two boys out of bed. Then
they came and got numbering me forgot. They beat our
boys because they were ministers of the church. They dragged
them outside.
Speaker 14: They tied our boys to defense. They made us watch
the stop, step back and took aim and shut them.
Speaker 5: Her youngest boy, Hans, he did not die. So the
leader guest Stopper put a pistol to his head, spit
at him and trialed.
Speaker 9: The leader of Guestapo told the crucifix that hunts for
around his neck.
Speaker 5: He threw it on the ground, stepped on it.
Speaker 9: Then he raised his arm in the Nazi salute and said,
the pearl will rule the world. We left Germany, marm
on me. It took us four months to escape across
the border, but we did it. Now we are in
this country, God bless it. And you know what it
means to have a Nazi rule.
Speaker 5: We gotta here for step. Somebody is coming. Careful, there
may be trouble.
Speaker 14: Yeah, come in.
Speaker 8: I am a traveler X four Mexico. And that's the
end of table.
Speaker 14: You have the right at the right place.
Speaker 8: X four our playlet force.
Speaker 13: I've had to come the last hundred miles by motorcycles, okay, header, the.
Speaker 14: Pillow, the rule of boat, the shitter, little rule de
wulved I didn't end.
Speaker 8: I shall show you to your room.
Speaker 5: Why these men we don't ask questions like that around here. Yes,
you alright, take my bag? Yeah, remember bringing a light
from demento. We will show this gentleman to his school. Yeah, Papa, uh,
this way please. I don't think Kelly, that were needed
here anymore. No, let's go to the plane. Look how
bright the stars are tonight, mister hottey yeh ask Kelly. Well,
they're one of the things in this world that are permanent.
Permanent like the faith of Christian people. Now, at the
time of the Crusaders, Barbarians tried to crush faith from
the face of the earth. But the Christians rose up
and pushed those hordes right back into the seas.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: The great Christian Army has risen again, and Nazism will
be wiped from the face of the earth.
Speaker 3: All of this couplied has spread a great army of counterspies,
men whose names may never be known or their deeds
ever revealed. But twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week, these counterspies are the guardians of our home front.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. First of all, I just have to say,
regarding the and credits that I've felt seen that the
Mountain time zone was mentioned in Growing Up Watching television
when they had schedules and they mentioned the time zone,
they would say it would be on at this time
Eastern time and that time Central Time, or they would
say it would be on this time Pacific time. But
nobody would ever mention the Mountain time zone, not unless
I was watching something local. And in old time radio,
you don't hear a bunch about time zones unless usually
the main time zone that I've heard is Eastern or
Eastern wartime. I think this is the first time that
I've heard the Mountain time zone mentioned that I can remember,
So as someone who has spent the majority of my
life in the Mountain time zone, I was just really
pleased by that. Now, of course you'll see hear what
I mentioned about the title, because while there are Nazis,
they aren't really from Mexico. They're coming well, I mean
they're coming up from Mexico, but they're not from Mexico.
They're from Germany. So that's a little bit confusing. Now,
for the episode itself, it's a mix of what we
knew and what we didn't now. Wartime media tended to
really lean heavily into the idea of a very intricate
axis spy network working its way into the United States.
There was no axis spy activity that was to outlandish,
and some of that may have been just a war
propaganda efforts to keep people vigilant, but there's also a
certain fog of war elements. The FBI is not going
to go ahead and call up Philip's lord and let
them know what the Nazis are up to. What's actually
going on is top secrets, So you can make up
whatever you want, you know, as long as what you
don't make up just happens to be too close to
the truth and reality. The sort of access spine that
we dealt with in the country really came as a
result of things such as you could see in the
movie The House on ninety Second Street, where the Nazis
set up a spa network using people they already had
in the United States to spy and report back to
Berlin on the preparations and actions of the American National
security apparatus. The reality is that there's was a limit
to the Nazis resources. The war was an intensive effort,
both in terms of man power and financial resources, so
there's a limit to what the Germans would feasibly do
at that point in the war, dealing with the United States,
which again pretty far from their front lines. Certainly they
couldn't afford the scale of operations that kept fictional heroes
very busy during World War Two. The random murder thrown
in was kind of interesting, and I like the idea
that Harding had to restrain himself from solving the case
just as a matter of habit. The suggestion of kind
of a racial animus between the European Fascist and the
Japanese is interesting. Now there's an argument to say that
it would not have happened, and that there wouldn't be
that animus. For example, Hitler declared the Japanese quote unquote
honorary arians.
Speaker 4: But that is one of.
Speaker 1: Those sort of practical compromises on ideology that people who
have to operate in the real world have to make.
But to me, it's not that implausible that people who
are fully bought into these sort of ideologies would follow
them to their rational conclusion, regardless of the practical real
world implications. The final thing that was interesting was this
sort of religious angle that came in at the end,
and I found myself just instinctively wondering, Okay, what occasion
was this because it's too late in the year for Easter,
but then I remembered it was nineteen forty two. This
type of program could really air any type of the
year and it would be appropriate. And the history of
Hitler's relationship with the Church is somewhat fraught. As a
pure ideological matter, Nazism had very little use for traditional
Christian beliefs, but was more than happy to co op
the church it for his own ends. And certainly there
were some churches more than happy to go along with it,
and other churches who just really tried to keep their
head down and avoid coming into Hitler's ire. But then
there were those who did stand up against him, and
they paid a price. And there are all kinds of
historical examples of that, whether you're thinking Martin Neimoler or
Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Corey Timboone and her family. And some
detail of the sort of persecution of the Nazis had
made its way back to the United States due to
people that had gotten out, though a lot was lapped
the imagination, and there were some very broad pictures painted
for the purposes of war propaganda. Though honestly, when I
look at or listen to these sort of stories that
were told during World War Two where they're just kind
of imagining what might be going on. You know, they
don't have solid information of everything going on, but they're
making up and embellishing and telling stories that portrayed the
Nazis as bad as the bad guys. And oftentimes when
you have these sort of wartime propaganda, it turns out
that there's been major exaggeration and things aren't as bad
as the propagandists were saying. But what we actually found
when we went in is that things.
Speaker 8: Were actually worse.
Speaker 1: Shifting quick, loud, who want to talk about our star
Don McLoughlin. This is one of McLoughlin's best known roles,
his second best remembered role. He had been on radio
since nineteen thirty three, a lot of soap work. He
starred in a Chaplain Jim during the war and drew
on his background because he came from a long line
of ministers and had actually been planning to study the
ministry and went into acting instead. And he also ended
up being one of the actors to play Tennessee Jet.
But his most noted role was on television soap operas.
He was one of the original star of As the
World Turns, where he played Chris Hughes, and he played
that role for thirty years, though with a few interruptions,
particularly during the early eighties, and he brings a really
steady presence to Counterspot, although he's not always the man
of action and would give increasingly more of the dangerous
stuff to another star, which we'll meet in a few weeks,
although technically we met him multiple times before on other
New York radio programs, but we'll talk about that later. Now,
let's go ahead and thank our Patreon supporter of the day,
and I want to thank Gg, Patreon supporter since February
twenty twenty, currently supporting the podcast at the secret Agent
level of four dollars or more per month. Thanks so
much for your support, Gg, And that will do it
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Adam Graham signing off.