Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode twenty.
Speaker 2: One of A Strange Thing podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host Austin, and I'm Mike, and like
Speaker 1: he's also the host.
Speaker 2: I am, I am, I'm a host. We are kind
Speaker 2: of starting fresh after our attempt at starting episode twenty
Speaker 2: one down at Swan Falls, which is a power plant
Speaker 2: about thirty miles south of where we're located. So we
Speaker 2: ended up going there because our elk hunting trip up
Speaker 2: north got around Bigfoot Country got snowed out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we didn't worry about the snow and rain
Speaker 1: and yeah fires. Nobody wants to hear us be grumpy
Speaker 1: while we're on a podcast.
Speaker 2: It was going to be really cold, it's going to
Speaker 2: be raining, it was going to be snowing, and we
Speaker 2: had one day to get up there, go hunt, try
Speaker 2: to record, and then pack up the next morning and
Speaker 2: go home. So we bailed on that. We went to
Speaker 2: Swan Falls, we set up a camp, we took our
Speaker 2: motorcycles in the back of the IDV. We went around
Speaker 2: and we went to a place called big Foot Butte.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Butte which actually exists.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do. I don't think there's big foots.
Speaker 2: If there was a big foot, we would have seen
Speaker 2: them because there is no vegetation out there except for
Speaker 2: a stake.
Speaker 1: Big eared kyote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw kyote.
Speaker 1: That was cool, and in the black coyote.
Speaker 2: And we got to ride up some crazy rocky roads
Speaker 2: and step trying not to ride over land mines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and got into some heavy like dirt areas that was
Speaker 2: really silty dirt that you crashed in.
Speaker 1: Again, And I think about this every time, like, what
Speaker 1: would I do if I did crash and I broke.
Speaker 2: My ankle or you're broke your kneecap, or I.
Speaker 1: Broke my elbow bone.
Speaker 2: It's connected to my arm boat. You could have lacerated
Speaker 2: your femural artery in your inner groin. Yeah, what would
Speaker 2: we do? You would have died if you had have
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 1: Probably need some X rays, some stitches, yes, so some
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Speaker 2: So we were down at Swan Falls, sitting around a
Speaker 2: fire late at night, listening to a guy probably what
Speaker 2: a quarter mile away, howling and hooting, and it was
Speaker 2: just so surreal. And we were right by the Snake River.
Speaker 1: And you could hear the fish, the carp, the heart.
Speaker 2: There was like the rain coming down, so there was
Speaker 2: a bitter pattern of rain, and then there were like toads.
Speaker 1: There was a toad and there was a toad. You'll
Speaker 1: hear about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty cool. But yeah, so when we
Speaker 2: went down there, we didn't see anything, and we tried
Speaker 2: to tell the stories, but we ended up with I
Speaker 2: would like to call it alcohol assisted verbal diarrhea. Nice
Speaker 2: because I mean, we tried to tell a story, but
Speaker 2: it just didn't come out right. Yep, so we are
Speaker 2: doing diarrhea running but yeah, like the through it, like
Speaker 2: the snake, like the great snake.
Speaker 1: Get it up there.
Speaker 2: I'm good, Yep, we're good. Worn some drinks, we're points
Speaker 2: some drinks. Out of the.
Speaker 3: Wilderness by a damn, damn it, by a damn We
Speaker 3: were interrupted in our hunting expedition, and so we had
Speaker 3: to go to an alternate location. We are down probably
Speaker 3: what fifteen yards from the no, ten yards from the
Speaker 3: Snake River, and we have a fire going and it's
Speaker 3: a nice night, although it's been raining kind of all day, rizzling,
Speaker 3: and we are here kind of doing a little hunting,
Speaker 3: although we probably won't get any there's.
Speaker 2: No animals here. Although I did see a toad.
Speaker 1: Saw a toad, and I saw it bounce over my
Speaker 1: dad's shoulder, yep, through the fire light, and I snuck
Speaker 1: up on it with a flashlight in its face, and he.
Speaker 2: Tried to kiss it. And it didn't turn into a.
Speaker 1: Princess turned into a princess, although I didn't not like it.
Speaker 2: I did eat a bug. It ate a bug right
Speaker 2: in front. It's like, and that's something you don't see
Speaker 2: every day, no sir. So anyway, yeah, we're out here
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, and like we said, we're
Speaker 2: gonna do our podcast on our next installment of What
Speaker 2: Squatch Watch, Scott Squat Watch, Scott Bigfoot Watch, and we
Speaker 2: are on episode number twenty one. I'm pouring a little
Speaker 2: whiskey into my I just poured you so well, you
Speaker 2: put him in there already. Don't in there. I don't
Speaker 2: want to drink, he said, do you want more than
Speaker 2: you said? No, I want to drink that part then.
Speaker 2: But it's dark. It's what it's like, eight thirty eight
Speaker 2: o five. It's eight o five and it is dark
Speaker 2: up and there's no moon, and there's a whooper. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a somebody down the canyon is like whooping. Don't
Speaker 2: tell him.
Speaker 3: But I have an elk call and I've been doing
Speaker 3: this weird noise.
Speaker 2: Should I do it? Yeah? I do the weird call.
Speaker 2: We're doing this weird call. It sounds like an animal
Speaker 2: in distress screaming, but really it's often blowing through the
Speaker 2: saying go.
Speaker 4: And the guy he he's a booter. He likes wings
Speaker 4: and clamps nice and boots. No, but anyway, Yeah, so
Speaker 4: we're out here in the wilderness and we are recording
Speaker 4: our episode of a strange thing with some guy yelling
Speaker 4: in the background, which is awesomes fun. And you know,
Speaker 4: we're in a canyon and for those of you who
Speaker 4: don't know what the Snake River Canyon is like, it
Speaker 4: is very deep. We're probably five hundred feet below the
Speaker 4: rim and we're down here. It's very wide and we've
Speaker 4: been fishing, we've been riding the motorcycles, we've been sitting
Speaker 4: by the fire, and it's been a constant drizzle.
Speaker 3: It's not bad though. It's like you don't get wet
Speaker 3: by the time you hit a rain drop again. It's
Speaker 3: like you've already dried off from the previous one.
Speaker 2: It's true. And that guy again, that's awesome. I hope,
Speaker 2: I hope it picks it up. This is pretty cool actually,
Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk a little bit tonight about strange
Speaker 2: stories about Bigfoot. And there's lights. He's shining lights against
Speaker 2: the genuine So we're going to try round two here
Speaker 2: tonight in the studio at my residence with the dogs
Speaker 2: and hopefully they'll bark enough times. You'll get enough drinks.
Speaker 2: If you're playing our drinking.
Speaker 1: Game, yep, and if you play responsibly. If you don't drink,
Speaker 1: pick up a mountain dew. Mountain dew and then switched
Speaker 1: a mountain dew because a stomach ulcer is a heck
Speaker 1: a lot better than diabeta. Go for coconut milk or
Speaker 1: almond milk, oh my goodness, yeah, you could do, or
Speaker 1: just regular milk. If you're not a pansy, we could
Speaker 1: do an izzy izzy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a drink. It's like that, not as
Speaker 2: much sugar as like a like a Pepsi or a
Speaker 2: Coca Cola.
Speaker 1: Or he could do like the most extreme thing and
Speaker 1: just do bang energy drinks back to back, Yeah, until
Speaker 1: you end up on the WWS SmackDown channel at four
Speaker 1: in the morning.
Speaker 2: Well, it is a strange thing, So maybe you want
Speaker 2: to do monsters. Oh, anyway, let's get back to our story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so Austin, you're gonna lead off with the story that
Speaker 2: you try to tell down there that ran into fifty
Speaker 2: three minutes.
Speaker 1: Of gibberish verbal diarrhea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see if you do better this time. I'm
Speaker 2: timing you.
Speaker 1: So this one is a story we got in from
Speaker 1: a writer person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a writer chronicler.
Speaker 1: His name is ted ted goes By Teddy Theatre Roosevelt.
Speaker 2: He wrote a book.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who he is. He
Speaker 1: was a president, the twenty sixth president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was twenty sixth president of the United States.
Speaker 2: Who would have thunk he had a story that could
Speaker 2: be attributed to a bigfoot encounter?
Speaker 1: Right? So he wrote a book and it was published
Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety three called Wilderness Hunter, and it.
Speaker 2: Is super good Wilderness Hunter.
Speaker 1: This is Teddy Roosevelt, Teddy Rosel, ted the box and
Speaker 1: fighting son of a gun who established many of our states.
Speaker 2: So Theodore Roosevelt wrote this book book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the chapter twenty is where this particular story
Speaker 1: is where he talks about.
Speaker 2: He calls them.
Speaker 1: It's a story about goblins. He calls them goblins, but.
Speaker 2: As he liked the are they like the miniature dwarf
Speaker 2: cannibals that we've talked about in previous episodes. No, no, no, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to do a spoiler. Okay,
Speaker 2: keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: So he calls him goblins. And earlier in the book
Speaker 1: he mentions hobgoblins and a guide, a Native American guide
Speaker 1: won't go any further with him because of these hobgoblins
Speaker 1: stories that come around this lake.
Speaker 2: So where's the lake at?
Speaker 1: This particular story is off of a fork of the salmon.
Speaker 2: Oh, so it could be an Idaho, Montana, Idaho, I
Speaker 2: would assume, yeah, right on the yeah, yeah, so he's up.
Speaker 1: This particular story is about a guy named Bauman and
Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt isn't a part of the story. But this
Speaker 1: is the guy Bauman that tells him the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and Bauman. So Theodore is recanting a
Speaker 2: story that was told to him by Bowman, something.
Speaker 1: Along the lines of, you know, he's hunted every game
Speaker 1: and trappers and mountaineering men aren't particularly superstitious folk, but
Speaker 1: there are their stories. And this is one story that
Speaker 1: stuck with Teddy Roosevelt because of the way the guy's
Speaker 1: voice quivered and shook through certain parts of the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: So he kind of prefaces the whole thing by saying
Speaker 1: that these mountaineering men aren't superstitious, but there are particular
Speaker 1: stories that you hear from Native Americans about and this
Speaker 1: is a quote from Teddy Roosevelt.
Speaker 2: Snow walkers. Snow walkers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and goblins is something he mentions earlier, like I said,
Speaker 1: And so he kind of writes it off as this
Speaker 1: guy's German and he grew up with all these folklore,
Speaker 1: you know type things, So he kind of writes it off.
Speaker 1: But he's like, it's stuck with.
Speaker 2: Me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think his frame of mind's a little bit important.
Speaker 1: So he's trapping beaver, this Balman guy with his partner
Speaker 1: off the Salmon River, and they were a little bit
Speaker 1: hesitant to go to this particular area because a guy
Speaker 1: had been found dead there by two other trappers, like
Speaker 1: the year before.
Speaker 2: He was just dead, and so this.
Speaker 1: Would have been like what year, Well, if the book
Speaker 1: was published in eighteen ninety three, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: like Trapper Frontiering.
Speaker 2: Eighteen eighties, eighteen eighty five somewhere in there.
Speaker 1: I would assume, Okay, he doesn't really give the date.
Speaker 2: Maybe he did but didn't write it down. Century you
Speaker 2: go around a century ago.
Speaker 1: So Balman and this other guy they take two ponies
Speaker 1: and they leave them down in this uh a beaver
Speaker 1: meadow and then hike a couple more miles because the
Speaker 1: terrain wasn't good and they just part the ponies. They
Speaker 1: get to a spot they set up their camps. They've
Speaker 1: got there. They made like a lean to out of
Speaker 1: some brush and stuff, and it's really timbered area, so
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff to make shelter. And they
Speaker 1: hang up their packs and they make a fire ring
Speaker 1: and all, you know, kind of get their little camp
Speaker 1: set up and then they go set their traps and
Speaker 1: they get back and uh, their camp's destroyed, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like their bags are like thrown all over there.
Speaker 2: Okay, the story I'm gonna tell after this one has
Speaker 2: a very similar thing.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I got another story.
Speaker 2: This is a this is a common thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, And they're lean to is you know, like
Speaker 1: a lean to shelter is all destroyed and dismantled.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 1: And Todady Roosevelt has a little quote he keeps repeating
Speaker 1: as this monster, He's like, through wanton malice. The animal
Speaker 1: had completely deconstructed their camp, know old timey speak wanton malice.
Speaker 1: So they kind of put everything together.
Speaker 2: They make a fire that night. The partner of Bawman.
Speaker 1: Takes a piece out of the fire, a little glowing over,
Speaker 1: and he's walking down the road. He's like, this animal
Speaker 1: that came and took a part of tents was walking
Speaker 1: on two feet by pedal by petal, And Bauman's like, eh, whatever,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, but he kind of convinces him. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's weird, but let's just go to bed. So they
Speaker 1: go to bed. He's woken up Bauman in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night that night to like rustling and stuff
Speaker 1: and a really bad smell.
Speaker 2: Outside of the tent or his lean to.
Speaker 1: So he kind of like comes to, you know, squinting,
Speaker 1: and sees a shadow and just takes a shot through
Speaker 1: the tent well out of the lean too. I mean
Speaker 1: he can see it. It's like a sheltered just a
Speaker 1: bunch of sticks, and I just picture his partner sound
Speaker 1: asleep and a fifty a musket goes off.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, he takes a shot and he can hear it
Speaker 1: ran off. He doesn't think he hit it, but he
Speaker 1: can hear it breaking through the trees and stuff. So
Speaker 1: the next morning they wake up and they go to
Speaker 1: check their traps. They're a little weirded out, and he
Speaker 1: mentions that they on an unspoken agreement just stuck together,
Speaker 1: you know, like two guys are just scared and they're
Speaker 1: huddling together dolls iron and they didn't catch anything in
Speaker 1: their traps, which is double bummer. So they get back
Speaker 1: to camp cancel screwed up again, second time, second time
Speaker 1: in a row, totally screwed up. They kind of like
Speaker 1: start investigating what's going on, and they're by this river
Speaker 1: where it's like sandy river bed type soil, they can
Speaker 1: see the feet print are definitely bipedal. So they get
Speaker 1: there's prints there, Yeah, very obvious prints because of this
Speaker 1: river bed that's kind of next to him. So they
Speaker 1: decide that they're gonna just keep the fire roaring all
Speaker 1: night and they're gonna have it. They're gonna have a
Speaker 1: guy up.
Speaker 2: All night long, you know, kind of on a guard.
Speaker 1: And they have a huge fire, and they said they
Speaker 1: can hear it sneaking around their camp and they can
Speaker 1: hear like the moaning.
Speaker 2: The moaning, but did they hear like branches. They can
Speaker 2: hear six.
Speaker 1: Breaking and stuff, so you can hear the things like
Speaker 1: around them. And in the book it says it's on
Speaker 1: the other side of the river watching them.
Speaker 2: That's terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a little sketchy. So they wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and they're like, we're gonna leave.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. Something's weird. The guy died
Speaker 1: here last year. Just not feeling good about it. So
Speaker 1: they go together again on spoken agreement, gather up all
Speaker 1: their tracks and on the last two it's kind of
Speaker 1: getting to be like noon, late afternoon.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna go get these last three. You
Speaker 1: just go pack up camp way when I get back,
Speaker 1: we can just get Ottle. So they split up and
Speaker 1: he goes Bawman goes and Collectsi's last three beaver traps.
Speaker 2: So they're just picking up their stuff so they can they're.
Speaker 1: Getting out and they stuck together all day. He's going
Speaker 1: to grab the last three traps and Bawoman's partner is going.
Speaker 2: To go back. I can see this coming. So they're
Speaker 2: splitting up.
Speaker 1: Movie set up, right, duh and uh they said the
Speaker 1: whole time they felt followed and on edge, and uh.
Speaker 1: Then they were like, well, it's kind of silly, like
Speaker 1: we're mountain men. We killed everything, we've lived, we live
Speaker 1: out here in the snow. So they kind of like
Speaker 1: talk themselves into splitting out. And he gets down to
Speaker 1: his last pond, and sure enough, the only time they
Speaker 1: catch beavers, he catches three beavers, all three. One of
Speaker 1: them actually like broke the trap free and got into
Speaker 1: its den, so he had to kind of dig it out.
Speaker 1: He cleans the beavers, you know, gets his traps taken apart,
Speaker 1: takes care of the animals, and then walks back. So
Speaker 1: it's been a little while, and he notes in the book.
Speaker 1: On the way back, it was quiet, like too quiet.
Speaker 1: He couldn't even hear his own footprints, really quiet, like
Speaker 1: he couldn't hear his feet hitting the pine needles, which
Speaker 1: you know makes that noise every single So that's something.
Speaker 2: That's really common you read about in like a big
Speaker 2: sasquatch stuff. So this is pre sasquatch and bigfoot, like
Speaker 2: we've come to know it since like Patterson gas it's
Speaker 2: this is like predating that. But it's the same kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. Okay, that's in.
Speaker 1: A similar story, which maybe this sparks some of that lore.
Speaker 2: Right, even though they call it a hob goblin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt does. So Bauman works his way back
Speaker 1: to the camp. It's not far mile, a couple of
Speaker 1: miles and uh. He gets back to the camp and
Speaker 1: it's dead quiet, and he can see that the fire
Speaker 1: went out. There's just like blue smoke whirling in the
Speaker 1: air at the camp. At the camp, he's yelling at
Speaker 1: his friend something's messed up, but his friend's not replying.
Speaker 1: So he gets there and he can see that the
Speaker 1: bags are packed, gets up to the firing. His friends
Speaker 1: like tipped off the log that they were sitting on
Speaker 1: dead like debt, like laying they're just laying their dead,
Speaker 1: all this rustled up stuff around him. And it says
Speaker 1: in the book like because of the way the dirt was,
Speaker 1: you can see exactly what happened. And it says after
Speaker 1: he you know, set up his packs, he sat down
Speaker 1: by the fire, and the monster snuck up behind him,
Speaker 1: pulled his neck back, breaking his neck, and then with
Speaker 1: four fans, bit into his neck.
Speaker 2: So he hit it so like grabbed him by the hair,
Speaker 2: pulled his neck.
Speaker 1: I picture it like you know under the under the
Speaker 1: jaw yeh like kind of like reached around over his
Speaker 1: head and then grabbed his john violently his head back,
Speaker 1: and then bit it and broke his neck after you know,
Speaker 1: exposing that jugular and the trachea and all that.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So it broke his neck and bit him with four
Speaker 1: fang marks in his neck. And then it looks like
Speaker 1: it danced around and rolled along his body and then
Speaker 1: snuck back into the woods.
Speaker 2: What do you mean danced around.
Speaker 1: Like like a victory Dan He says, it looked like it,
Speaker 1: I wrote Teddy Roosevelt said he like rolled on it.
Speaker 2: It looks like it rolled.
Speaker 1: Over a few times.
Speaker 2: That's just weird.
Speaker 1: So Bauman just got the f out. He only took
Speaker 1: his rifle. He left his him and his buddy's packs,
Speaker 1: the beavers, everything, and he ran and he booked it
Speaker 1: to the ponies, which I've been scared in the woods,
Speaker 1: like on edge, and you're just like, I just get
Speaker 1: back to the camp. I can't see where I'm going.
Speaker 1: I just want to get back to my camp. It
Speaker 1: feels like it never comes. So I get that eurie,
Speaker 1: like a strong, comfortable feeling, and he gets back and
Speaker 1: then he gets onto the ponies and takes off until
Speaker 1: he feels like he's safe. And in the book, Bauman
Speaker 1: left and abandoned everything but his rifle, saying that the
Speaker 1: monster was either half human or half devil.
Speaker 2: The monster was half human or half devil. Either half
Speaker 2: human or half devil. Yeah, you know, that's so weird. Okay,
Speaker 2: So that's a really cool story, and.
Speaker 1: It's old, and it's by a presidentane.
Speaker 2: And before you know, Bigfoot was a thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean Bigfoot's always been a thing. You can go back
Speaker 2: thousands of years and you can read the legends of
Speaker 2: Native Americans and.
Speaker 1: Well, and he mentions that the snow walkers, yeah, and
Speaker 1: other frost giants, other.
Speaker 2: Elven yes, frost giants nice. Yeah, No, frost giants are
Speaker 2: like some of the Native American tribes have a snow
Speaker 2: giant or frost giant, which are cannibal giant is like
Speaker 2: nurse Smith yeah, yeah, which just it's kind of like
Speaker 2: what we talked about. This stuff is everywhere. Ye, every
Speaker 2: content and all goes back to giants. It all goes
Speaker 2: back to weirdness, strange things. It's a very strange thing,
Speaker 2: you know. Now though, what's weird is Bigfoot. And we
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about this in our last episode.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot has this kind of fairy like goodness, good natured happy.
Speaker 2: So there's like a contrast here, and that's one thing
Speaker 2: I really wanted to point out. On one hand, we
Speaker 2: have these these Bigfoot type of ideations for lack of
Speaker 2: a better word, of this nice, good giant creature that's
Speaker 2: all about tinder and bunnies and love and flabbers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know, he's the he's the mascot for Oregon Travel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's on all kinds of merchandise that people are
Speaker 2: selling on the internet. He's this nice creature benevolent.
Speaker 1: That's the spirit of adventure, isn't that what I called
Speaker 1: him last time?
Speaker 2: Spirit of exactly? So that's one side, and then the
Speaker 2: other side is this dark, scary, supernatural monster that has
Speaker 2: some very dare I say, nefarious boy history yep, And
Speaker 2: this is one of examples of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I like to think a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about this about ghosts and all kinds of stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's like people are bad. I mean, there's there's Ted Bundy's,
Speaker 1: there's Ed Kemper's, there's you know, there's terrible people out there,
Speaker 1: And what if that.
Speaker 2: If you just looked at you'd think they were just fine? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well maybe until you find out they're cannibals, murderers.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what if there's I mean, there's also me
Speaker 1: and you who sit around and talk about nerdy things
Speaker 1: all the time. So what if there's nice, charitable sasquatches,
Speaker 1: and there's also Ed camp or Ted Bundy Sasquatches.
Speaker 2: So let me jump in there, because I've been doing
Speaker 2: a lot of reading over the last couple of weeks
Speaker 2: about Bigfoot, trying to indoctrinate myself on all the different
Speaker 2: stories and legends about Bigfoot. And one thing that I
Speaker 2: pulled out of this that's really fascinating is that a
Speaker 2: lot of real serious Bigfoot researchers believe there are basically
Speaker 2: tribes of bigfoot sasquatch people. You'd assume those I mean,
Speaker 2: and some of them, some of them are bad, nefarious,
Speaker 2: Some of them are good, Some of them are benign.
Speaker 2: Some of them just want to stay away from everything.
Speaker 2: And you know, I never thought of it like that.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: If these creatures exist, some of them maybe have good manners.
Speaker 2: Some of them are very diabolical.
Speaker 1: If you had to come up with a name for
Speaker 1: a group of sasquatch, which you call it? A name
Speaker 1: for a group, yeah, like a bunch of ravens or
Speaker 1: crows as a murder of crows. Or you could have
Speaker 1: like a flock of seagulls good. Or you could have
Speaker 1: a pack of wolves. You could have a heard of cows.
Speaker 1: You could have a school.
Speaker 2: Is there is there a name that people call.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to know what you
Speaker 1: would call it.
Speaker 2: I would probably call it something like a I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd go with pod. It sounds the most science fiction.
Speaker 2: I like pod.
Speaker 1: Pod sasquat, or how about a rack, a rack that
Speaker 1: sounds weird, you know, like you get a six pack pack.
Speaker 1: I would go with pack if that's your logic.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like it needs something more
Speaker 2: more cool.
Speaker 1: Because the big thought colony pods are like for like
Speaker 1: for a stronghold, a stronghold, busheless squatching, bush squatching, bush squatching, ben,
Speaker 1: I'm bushless squatching. Anyway, when you go get toilet paper,
Speaker 1: what do you call it when you go get a bag? Yeah, package, crate.
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you have good idea send it
Speaker 2: into it or.
Speaker 1: If you know there's an actual name, maybe we'll coin
Speaker 1: a word for it.
Speaker 2: Like a murder of crows makes no sense, but I
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't are sketchy, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I could go a murder of sasquatch, A murder
Speaker 2: of sasquatch. Oh, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1: A coven coven, nice of squatch, coven of squatch.
Speaker 2: I can see a sticker with a squatch coven logo.
Speaker 1: There's probably some biologists or something like. Actually, because of
Speaker 1: the primate nature of the animal, we would like to.
Speaker 2: You know, bite beetle. It's a herd.
Speaker 1: It's a what do we call monkeys.
Speaker 2: Troop? True, a troop I think so troop squat, troop
Speaker 2: of squatch.
Speaker 1: That's why they're knocking on woods. It's actually like a
Speaker 1: battle drum.
Speaker 2: They're troops marketing. Well, you know what's weird about Okay,
Speaker 2: Sasquatch And now we're talking about maybe there are different
Speaker 2: tribes of Sasquatches, some of them good. I mean, like
Speaker 2: if you look at like the different tribes of Native
Speaker 2: American Indians, I mean they all have different kinds of reputations.
Speaker 2: Some were known as warriors, some were known as very
Speaker 2: you know, hospitable, some.
Speaker 1: Of them anything like religion like christian Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's terrible groups of culty people who are killing and
Speaker 1: raping and being terrible, and then there's charitable kind, and
Speaker 1: then there's middle road normal ding dongs. There's all kinds
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 2: Well, that being said, one of the statistics that I found,
Speaker 2: and we'll go over this more in future episodes. They
Speaker 2: were talking about people go missing in national parks, are
Speaker 2: out camping in national forests, and the highest incidents of
Speaker 2: bigfoot and sasquatch sightings coincide with the highest number of
Speaker 2: people that go missing in those areas right never to
Speaker 2: be found. So a lot of people are trying to
Speaker 2: make the connection that oh, yeah, not only do they
Speaker 2: scare or terrify people that are out camping, they grab them,
Speaker 2: but when opportunity knocks and is there somebody out there
Speaker 2: alone or there's something that's within easy reach or easy
Speaker 2: grasp or they could miss for disappeared, you don't find
Speaker 2: like bodies usually for these people. You don't find bones,
Speaker 2: you don't find anything. They just are gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty sketchy.
Speaker 2: So that that kind of weirds me out a little
Speaker 2: bit about you know, going out and trying to find
Speaker 2: a Sasquatch. I don't know if I want to find one.
Speaker 2: I want to find one, Okay, maybe I know what's
Speaker 2: the You die? You die, right, you die, you die?
Speaker 2: You have a story, you know. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: you see these people going out to like, you know,
Speaker 2: some National park where there's buffalo, like the Grand Canyon
Speaker 2: area or something, and they go down there and then
Speaker 2: they they run out try to pet a buffalo and
Speaker 2: then it gored booted, yeah, fifteen feet in the air,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, that's a the death of like
Speaker 2: if it's a moose or something, and it's the same
Speaker 2: kind of thing. People do dumb things because out of
Speaker 2: lack of knowledge. I don't want to be that guy.
Speaker 2: I don't mind going out looking, but I want to
Speaker 2: be prepared, you know. And at least if he gets me,
Speaker 2: I hope somebody's got it on tape, yep, so that
Speaker 2: it's documented and then it's not blurry, that it's in sharpness.
Speaker 1: It's that old walking hunting adage. Yeah, lock softly and
Speaker 1: carry a sharp stick boomstick. Yeah. So anyway, that's a
Speaker 1: fascinating story. I love that story, and I love that
Speaker 1: whole book is super good. I would listen to it
Speaker 1: probably once a year.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that book is super good. I'd
Speaker 2: listen to it because right.
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Speaker 2: So what a perfect segue, because I have been listening
Speaker 2: to Audible.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: I found a book about people's encounters with bigfoot, and
Speaker 2: last night I stayed up and listened to a story
Speaker 2: and in many ways it mirrored Theodore Roosevelt story that
Speaker 2: you talked about. Yeah, so this guy goes to his
Speaker 2: friend's house and I'm gonna really this short.
Speaker 1: Can you give me an era?
Speaker 2: This was like maybe twenty years ago. Okay, yeah, so
Speaker 2: like two thousands. So this guy ex military guy. He
Speaker 2: goes with one of his military friends and they go out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're like, let's call it Bob and Tom Bob. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they end up Bob goes to Tom's house, who has,
Speaker 2: you know, a ranch or some kind of homestead out
Speaker 2: on the edge of a big forest. And this is
Speaker 2: around I mean, this is outside of New York, so
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's at. Maybe it's Pennsylvania or
Speaker 2: somewhere I wish I could remember. Okay, pennsyl Tucky sounds.
Speaker 2: But so they go, they go to this Bob's house
Speaker 2: and Tom goes and Tom's kind of a city slicker
Speaker 2: and Bob's kind of a countryman. And they go out
Speaker 2: there and they spend time out on the old homestead
Speaker 2: and they decide they're going to go in and fish
Speaker 2: and hunt deep into the forest.
Speaker 1: Yep. And I've been there the East Yeah, crazy area.
Speaker 2: Crazy you think, foliage, foliage, foliage foliage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen black bears all over that's the first
Speaker 1: time I saw while Black Bear was in Pennsyl Tucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's really funny is so the guy Bob,
Speaker 2: it's calling him Bob, has a pickup truck. And I
Speaker 2: don't remember the year. I think it was, like, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a big Ford if I remember, big full
Speaker 2: ton truck, and he had souped it up and jacked
Speaker 2: it up, and they called it little Foot kind of like.
Speaker 1: The Bigfoot monster truck, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So it was almost a monster truck. Tom described
Speaker 2: it as nice. And so they had like these special
Speaker 2: bullet kind of steps you had to step up in
Speaker 2: to get inside this thing. But anyway, they loaded it
Speaker 2: up with they took a few firearms, they took some
Speaker 2: fishing poles and stuff, and they went out on some
Speaker 2: crazy forest roads. They had to cut branches out of
Speaker 2: it and use the winch on it to pull things
Speaker 2: off the road so they could get through. And they
Speaker 2: ended up going way back into this you know, really
Speaker 2: forested area.
Speaker 1: Hang out with them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were having and they had beer, they had food.
Speaker 2: You know, they're going to stay a couple nights, had
Speaker 2: a tent, so they set up camp and the first
Speaker 2: night they decided, Hey, we've got enough time, let's go
Speaker 2: down and we'll do a little fishing down by the river.
Speaker 2: So they walked down there and they're fishing. You know,
Speaker 2: he's a long journey, and Tom says that he's a
Speaker 2: city slicker, so he wasn't used to it. He was
Speaker 2: exhausted by time he got there. And they're out there
Speaker 2: wading around in this river fishing and the river was like,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe thirty feet wide. It wasn't really deep.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a big massive river like the Snake
Speaker 2: River where we were at. Yeah, but there was so
Speaker 2: much foliage that they to fish, they couldn't really use
Speaker 2: their fly rods. They were just kind of flicking it
Speaker 2: out a little bit because there was too much overhang
Speaker 2: called the branches. And while they're out there, they started
Speaker 2: hearing some noises and they got looking around and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: crunching making noises and stuff, and they smelled some weird smells,
Speaker 2: you know, and they were a little weird out, both
Speaker 2: Tom and Bob. They were a little frustrated and a
Speaker 2: little weird about what was going on. So they kept
Speaker 2: kind of getting closer and closer together in the stream,
Speaker 2: just because they felt exposed. Finally, they heard some noises
Speaker 2: and thought they saw something moving through the brush on
Speaker 2: the other side of the river, staring at them and
Speaker 2: looking at them. So they one of them had a shotgun.
Speaker 2: One of them had a forty four magnum that they
Speaker 2: called Harry four, most powerful and gun in the world.
Speaker 2: So they run back to their camp and when they
Speaker 2: get to the camp, the camp is all messed up.
Speaker 2: It's not horrible. They set it back up. They thought
Speaker 2: maybe you know, you know, something went through a bear
Speaker 2: or something and kind of messed things up, and they
Speaker 2: had tied meat and some other things, wiping the tree
Speaker 2: although they'd hoisted it up over a tree branch. I
Speaker 2: got it food, probably so that a bear wouldn't get it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, they figured a bear it got there, and
Speaker 2: they thought maybe that's what it was down by the river. Well,
Speaker 2: that night they were in the tent. It was like
Speaker 2: a full moon or something, and they heard a bunch
Speaker 2: of crunching and loud noises and a meld something terrible.
Speaker 2: And Tom had kind of drifted off to sleep and
Speaker 2: was asleep when all of a sudden he woke up
Speaker 2: with a start. He just felt like something was watching him,
Speaker 2: and they could see a shadow of something standing over
Speaker 2: the tent looking inside, and then terrible growls and stuff.
Speaker 2: So Bob grabbed his forty four and fired three times
Speaker 2: through the tent at this thing. And Tom said he
Speaker 2: was afraid it was some guy messing around, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe they killed somebody. They got up, they couldn't find
Speaker 2: any blood or anything. They found some prints that looked
Speaker 2: really weird, but the ground was pretty hard and so
Speaker 2: they couldn't really tell what it was. So they go
Speaker 2: back again down to fish at this lake. It wasn't
Speaker 2: as far away as the river, and they fished for
Speaker 2: a while and they catch a few fish and stuff.
Speaker 2: There's having a good time, and then everything went deathly silent,
Speaker 2: abnormally quiet, crazy, no noise, everything just weird. And they
Speaker 2: said their hair on their you know, the back of
Speaker 2: their neck, stood up, their arms erect, and so they
Speaker 2: they decided they're going to get the heck out of there.
Speaker 2: So they went running back to the campsite, and when
Speaker 2: they get there, something was totally wrong. Everything was shredded,
Speaker 2: the tin was torn up. They had like a big,
Speaker 2: huge cooler, like a big huge white cooler like I
Speaker 2: have you know, the like eighty gallons or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and it was smashed. It was flattened like a pancake.
Speaker 2: The guys said, crazy. Somehow the food out of the
Speaker 2: tree was ripped down, the branch came off with it.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: And the weirdest thing was the truck was totally messed up.
Speaker 2: It was like something had ran into the side and
Speaker 2: smashed in the whole side, crazy, and then the other
Speaker 2: side was smashed. The tailgate it had I guess like
Speaker 2: a like a cover on it that was smashed and
Speaker 2: torn up. Everything inside was torn up, The windows were
Speaker 2: broken out, and it was like it's something I'd gone
Speaker 2: through and just totally destroyed this thing. They were so
Speaker 2: freaked out they threw everything they could in the back
Speaker 2: of this messed up truck. Fortunately, it said. They started
Speaker 2: and they got down the mountain and got to the
Speaker 2: main road to go back to the homestead. And as
Speaker 2: they were going they passed a sheriff's deputy and they
Speaker 2: pulled over. The sheriff's deputy came up and said, what
Speaker 2: happened when truck happened to you man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, up in the truck.
Speaker 2: And they're like, we don't know. There was something that
Speaker 2: up in the woods that did it. And then the
Speaker 2: sheriff deputy said, you know, we've had reports for the
Speaker 2: last sixty years of this kind of thing. I think
Speaker 2: it's outside of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Oh, PENNSYLVANCKI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, but it's the same kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Story you said, nobody ended up.
Speaker 1: It sounds super similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it was the same kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: The camp being shredded, and that's something I found in
Speaker 2: a lot of the things I've read.
Speaker 1: Camp aggressive behavior.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if they don't kill the people or beat
Speaker 1: up the people, break my chairs everything in face ten, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they tear it up. Something tears it up, and people
Speaker 1: believe it's a big foot. Okay, that's my story. That's
Speaker 1: a good story. It is crazy how similar it was.
Speaker 1: Wondering two things. Why didn't they camp closer to the water?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's I think from what I Maybe I
Speaker 2: didn't tell right, but they camped close to the lake.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: But the river where they were going to go do
Speaker 2: some fly fishing that.
Speaker 1: Had supposedly a little better fishing.
Speaker 2: They they went down there, which was a further walk,
Speaker 2: and one thing, and this kind of fits that Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: kind of foliage that we.
Speaker 1: Were talking about.
Speaker 2: They as they got closer to the river, it got
Speaker 2: more and more dense and so like to get like
Speaker 2: the last one hundred yards, they had to just like
Speaker 2: bushwhack through everything totally got in there. This story was
Speaker 2: actually told on Coast to Coast am with George Norrie,
Speaker 2: and a lot of these stories were right. But I'll
Speaker 2: put links to it if I can fight him perfect.
Speaker 2: He's insane up there.
Speaker 1: So I did my nicee do it.
Speaker 2: One time in that way. Austin's gonna blow his horn
Speaker 2: one more time the opposite direction. I dropped it, He
Speaker 2: dropped it. I dropped it in the dirt.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all ichy in.
Speaker 2: My mouthy, I don't think. So. That's a beautiful that's
Speaker 2: really look at that killer. Take a picture you can't.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a picture of it right now. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm recording. That's okay. I think I can do both.
Speaker 2: I'm recording and I'm taking a picture of what I'm
Speaker 2: seeing right now, which is really awesome. Austin put his
Speaker 2: phone underneath the bottle of whiskey.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a that picture, that's pretty sure. You should
Speaker 1: approach that. Look there their name on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're like, this is halftime, you know, we're just
Speaker 2: kind of sitting here by the fire, but we're drinking
Speaker 2: some scotch and it's blended. Oh jeez, you scared me
Speaker 2: that that was Austin. So Austin is drinking. There's all
Speaker 2: kinds of weird noises out of here.
Speaker 1: Mommy, you me all right, let's say let's.
Speaker 2: Get back to our story. Hello, I can't like that.
Speaker 1: My next one is a doozy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to grab like a tinfoil hat or just
Speaker 1: it's it's a little out there.
Speaker 2: So are you sure this is one hundred? This is
Speaker 2: a pretty well known story. Okay, when did this happen.
Speaker 1: A long time ago?
Speaker 2: Like in the fifties, forties, like.
Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty four something?
Speaker 2: Is this the minor story?
Speaker 1: Minor? Yes, So I'm gonna really summarize this one because
Speaker 1: if we go into play by play. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was published in a I believe it actually was a.
Speaker 2: New York newspaper. Newspaper. I might be wrong, but near Canada,
Speaker 2: it's a good thing. We're very very you knowicious, studicious, studious, studious,
Speaker 2: studious in our studio finding capabilities. We could just make
Speaker 2: up crap and say, yeah, you know, I heard there's
Speaker 2: some place we can make up some doobies.
Speaker 1: Oh god, some doobies, y'all.
Speaker 2: No, not dobies, duties. We should come on, don met
Speaker 2: some You know what we should do is we should
Speaker 2: do a podcast where we we make up a story
Speaker 2: about Bigfoot, and then we tell real stories, and then
Speaker 2: we tell stories, and then we'll see if people can
Speaker 2: guess which one's the fake story.
Speaker 1: This story is. It's pretty famous story, and it was
Speaker 1: published in a newspaper. I think I want to say
Speaker 1: it was in New York, but I want to in
Speaker 1: my head that's the wrong coastline for Canada meeting.
Speaker 2: You wrote all these stories out, I.
Speaker 1: Did, and then I summarized them, and a lot of
Speaker 1: my good content got just But I can't tell you
Speaker 1: I don't know where the Toba Inlet is.
Speaker 2: Toba, Toba, t Oba.
Speaker 1: I would assume, so hey, Google.
Speaker 5: Hey girl, where's the Toba Inlet.
Speaker 2: Toba Inlet, Powell River, a BC, Canada, six hundred three
Speaker 2: miles away British Columbia.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm not one hundred percent sure which newspaper
Speaker 1: this came out in, but I know that it happened
Speaker 1: around British Columbia near the Toba Inlet.
Speaker 2: You know, a year about which I want.
Speaker 1: To say, nineteen twenty four.
Speaker 2: Okay, that works, nineteen twenty four, the Toba Inlet, yep,
Speaker 2: by British Columbia.
Speaker 1: So this is a story given to a newspaper by
Speaker 1: a man named Albert Ostman, and he held on to
Speaker 1: it for most of his life and then I kind
Speaker 1: of like towards his later years when he was kind
Speaker 1: of fading out, he finally produced this story for the newspaper.
Speaker 2: He told his story to it and it.
Speaker 1: Sounded like people knew about the story, and he told
Speaker 1: it to people, but he didn't tell it to the journalist.
Speaker 2: It wasn't documented. Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1: And so this Albert Osman guy was kind of a woodsman.
Speaker 1: He was a contractor, construction worker, kind of a handyman, pioneering,
Speaker 1: you know, gritty man's man, like a lot of these
Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt fellas. Yeah, you know. And so he kind
Speaker 1: of hears about this mine in British Columbia at the
Speaker 1: Toba Inlet, and you know, you follow the where the
Speaker 1: inlet is, and you follow that river and you finally
Speaker 1: get to this spot where there's supposedly tons of golden
Speaker 1: people are having lots of success. Okay, so there's this
Speaker 1: kind of gold rush. So he goes into I don't
Speaker 1: remember the name of the town, but a local Canadian
Speaker 1: town and hires this Native American fella, salty old crotchety dude,
Speaker 1: and kind of uses him as a guide, you know,
Speaker 1: to get him up to the Toba Inlet where he
Speaker 1: can kind of make his way bushwhacking from there. So
Speaker 1: they go up into Canada. They're looking for this mine,
Speaker 1: they're looking for this Toba Inlet, and the guy's telling
Speaker 1: them stories about these monsters.
Speaker 2: And these ghouls and.
Speaker 1: These beasts that live out there, the Sasquatch. So they
Speaker 1: finally get up to their spot and Albert Ostman they've
Speaker 1: been surviving off the land the whole way up there.
Speaker 1: So they shoot a deer here and there, and finally
Speaker 1: they get to this spot. The Native Americans like, this
Speaker 1: is where I leave. I'll send a boat back to
Speaker 1: this inlet in three weeks, okay, And so they split up.
Speaker 1: So Albert Osman takes off. He's kind of like looking
Speaker 1: for the next place to camp. So he sets up
Speaker 1: camp one night. On one side there's an out kind
Speaker 1: of a rock wall where he's gonna get some wind shelter,
Speaker 1: and he kind of like wedges sticks in there to
Speaker 1: hang his backpack on. So he's kind of making a
Speaker 1: nice camp, and he goes out looking for some deer
Speaker 1: because they're kind of living off flamming. They don't have
Speaker 1: enough food to get through all the time. He goes
Speaker 1: off hunting, comes back, he notices his backpacks been kind
Speaker 1: of like rummaged through and it's upside down hung up, okay,
Speaker 1: and he's like kind of weird it out, but he's
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I hung it up and then like
Speaker 1: porcupines will like come in and kind of get into something,
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe it was biting at the zipper
Speaker 1: and that's why this stuff fell out. So he's kind
Speaker 1: of like applying logic to all these things. So because
Speaker 1: the bed a little bit later, he gets kidnap sacked,
Speaker 1: Like the sleeping bag that he was in is drabbed
Speaker 1: at the top and he's pushed down to the bottom
Speaker 1: and then it's thrown over what he calls a horse's back.
Speaker 1: So it's like they threw it over a horse and
Speaker 1: he's in he's inside his bag, so, you know.
Speaker 2: Kind of flopping around.
Speaker 1: People talk about how grizzly bears call it. I think
Speaker 1: you're just a burrito when you're in a sleeping bag
Speaker 1: in a tent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This this was basically like the the like peta.
Speaker 2: Or cal zone version. So he didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: He thought, you know, it could have been.
Speaker 1: He thought some dude might have like a couple of
Speaker 1: fellows might have grabbed him and thrown him in. And
Speaker 1: he'd been sleeping with his rifle because of the kind
Speaker 1: of weird stuff he shoot, the porky pine that's being So.
Speaker 2: The rifle was in the bag with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rifles in his bag. He's got some other
Speaker 1: stuff kind of bouncing around his bag, and he can
Speaker 1: hear like his other belongings clanking around, like his cans
Speaker 1: of goods like canned foods, Clan.
Speaker 2: Clan clem clan mess kit or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as they're as they're making their way wherever, and
Speaker 1: he's in there for quite a while.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is is taking him and his stuff away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you can imagine, let's say he's two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, but even all that weight in the bottom
Speaker 1: of a bag, everything's probably all scrunched up. So he
Speaker 1: can feel like they're going downhill and he's starting to
Speaker 1: fit like he's not on a horse so much, you know,
Speaker 1: like because he's getting drug down, like when it's a
Speaker 1: steeps around here and bouncing up there and hit a tree.
Speaker 1: So they finally get to the spot and he gets
Speaker 1: let down and his legs are numb, and it's been
Speaker 1: hours he's been in this spag and he gets out.
Speaker 1: His legs are numb. There's nothing around him, really, and
Speaker 1: he's kind of freaking out, kind of comes to gets
Speaker 1: his bearings, gets his feet, the blood back in his
Speaker 1: feet and.
Speaker 2: Stuff, and they pull his rifle out and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did, he would, right, and uh, he
Speaker 1: kind of gets an idea of his surroundings. He's can
Speaker 1: kind of sense that there's something around him. He can
Speaker 1: see these figures and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's what do you want?
Speaker 1: There's nothing going on? Long story short, he comes to
Speaker 1: find out that he's been kidnapped by a what seems
Speaker 1: like the male, the alpha male, like a family, but
Speaker 1: the family of four sasquatch, and he describes it as
Speaker 1: a male, a female older and a young boy pubescent adolescent,
Speaker 1: you know, like a weird, lanky, acne ridden boy and
Speaker 1: a young girl.
Speaker 2: How come I've never heard this story before.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's pretty famous. I've heard it a
Speaker 1: few times. So he kind of begins a relationship with
Speaker 1: these kids, and he talks about how.
Speaker 2: The Sasquatch kids, Like, when you say begins a relationships,
Speaker 2: is that like like that night or like has he
Speaker 2: been there for a while.
Speaker 1: He's there for a while a few I think like
Speaker 1: six nights, five nights.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so he's like basically so basically he's been
Speaker 2: taking a hostage and he's making friends with his hostage takers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the funny part. He talks about how
Speaker 1: it seems like the father figure is justifying to the
Speaker 1: mother why he brought this thing back.
Speaker 2: I was like, and then it's like, so if you
Speaker 2: take it serious, maybe it was something that he wasn't
Speaker 2: supposed to do or something.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, I freaked out he grabbed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sasquat's broken roll brought a human back to camp.
Speaker 1: And I just picture her with her hand on her hip.
Speaker 1: You know, like, what the hell did you just do?
Speaker 1: He's like, girl, don't even right now. You know, they're
Speaker 1: having like this conversation, and these two kids, the teenage
Speaker 1: male and the younger girl, are just kind of watching
Speaker 1: and throughout.
Speaker 2: These five until they were male or female.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming if they're similar to the have you ever
Speaker 1: seen an orangutang?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying that they I'm assuming their parts
Speaker 2: an anatomical bits.
Speaker 1: I'm very obvious of the situation, Okay.
Speaker 2: Because most of the stories that I hear they're androgynists.
Speaker 2: He spent five days with them, Okay, so he got
Speaker 2: up close in personal, Yeah, he was. He his bag's there,
Speaker 2: I know how he could tell. He looked at the
Speaker 2: squatch crotch scratch nice Okay, keep calling.
Speaker 1: Anyway, squatch crotch nice. So his bag's there and some
Speaker 1: of his belongings, and he actually it goes and finds
Speaker 1: some water at one point, and he makes some he
Speaker 1: uses his soup and he makes like a ladle to
Speaker 1: scoop water out of a and h the two younger
Speaker 1: kid sasquatches. I think it's cool. So he makes one
Speaker 1: for them, and they kind of developed this relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're nice. They're being friends, and.
Speaker 1: The kids are kind of in charge of watching the
Speaker 1: guy and he's planning the whole time. How am I
Speaker 1: going to get out of here? I can't live with
Speaker 1: these monsters in the woods. And he's got a gun,
Speaker 1: but he's like, I don't know how fast I can shoot.
Speaker 1: I mean, these things are bigger than I am, and
Speaker 1: clearly it can carry.
Speaker 2: Me miles and miles away.
Speaker 1: Long story short, The younger boy one sees him me
Speaker 1: using chewing tobacco, you know, like the chaw.
Speaker 2: The old the old.
Speaker 1: It's a real story. Every story is real if you've
Speaker 1: heard it, and he gives it to the boy. The boy,
Speaker 1: I imagine a sniffs it, brings it to the dad.
Speaker 1: The dad puts it in his mouth and kind of
Speaker 1: likes it. So he develops this plan. He can't shoot him,
Speaker 1: and he tries to actually like just walk out at
Speaker 1: one point, and he says that the monster stops him
Speaker 1: with his hand out like kind of a don't go
Speaker 1: a generic stop figure like hands up and says in
Speaker 1: the story, I read s u.
Speaker 2: K a like suka suka suka suka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems odd, right, so he develops this plan
Speaker 1: because he can't just leave and he can't shoot them
Speaker 1: all because they're giant monsters. So he gives the boy
Speaker 1: and he's like exaggerating. He takes some a lipper the
Speaker 1: old upper decker too, you know, and he's like mm
Speaker 1: and really just exaggerating his pleasure he's getting from this.
Speaker 2: Is this a true story? Is a true story? Keep going?
Speaker 1: I've heard it a few times, so I mean more
Speaker 1: than once.
Speaker 2: It's true. I just know sometimes you do that. I
Speaker 2: just made it up. So long story short.
Speaker 1: He gets the dad monkey monster buzzing really hard to
Speaker 1: he's sick.
Speaker 2: The dad.
Speaker 1: I don't he eats too much cho yeah, he just
Speaker 1: probably gutting it wallow. He gets sick, all kinds of
Speaker 1: noises and his tummy and he makes his escape.
Speaker 2: He gets away.
Speaker 1: So he's kidnapped by this monster family of four, lives
Speaker 1: with him for five days, and then escapes via chewing tobaccy.
Speaker 2: He's chewing the kid sick.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the most ridiculous thing Albert Ostman in British Columbia,
Speaker 1: the most Canadian things? So yeah, so the monkeys were like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, dear man. We don't want you out there
Speaker 1: getting sick or nothing. So we decided we'd bring it
Speaker 1: back to where we live, you know. Or they were like.
Speaker 2: Fringe the Copenhagen. Okay, so I'm trying to pull out
Speaker 2: something a good nugget that isn't quite so.
Speaker 1: Weak because silver Oastman didn't find no nuggets the squatchcratch,
Speaker 1: but he did find nuggets.
Speaker 2: Well yeah two times. Okay, I'm not going there, but
Speaker 2: any so, the things I can pull out are this
Speaker 2: story has very benign sasquatch characters and weak. Yeah, they're thoughtful.
Speaker 2: They have a family, patriarchal kind of system, a nuclear family,
Speaker 2: nuclear family. Yeah, they that looks out for each other.
Speaker 2: They live homogeneously with each other. And this human that
Speaker 2: is kind of collected, almost like a wild animal, yeah,
Speaker 2: like a pet, like a pet, is taken in with
Speaker 2: them and then he escapes. That's really kind of weird.
Speaker 2: That's that's a unique story. Most Bigfoot stories have something,
Speaker 2: you know, where it's just like your first story where
Speaker 2: it's scary or it never gets that far. It's just
Speaker 2: or we see this thing, rich, let's get the heck
Speaker 2: out of guides, which we probably won't tell those stories
Speaker 2: in this episode, but there are those as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very creepy. So just to button this story up so
Speaker 2: he gets away, he kind of keeps this to himself,
Speaker 2: maybe tells a few people. But then later in life,
Speaker 2: before he dies, he tells the story to a journalist
Speaker 2: who writes it up. And did he call it anything?
Speaker 2: Do you remember did he call him sasquatches or goblins or.
Speaker 1: I want to say that the guide called him a sasquatch.
Speaker 1: The guide called him a sad So he had this
Speaker 1: already kind of preconceived idea of what these monsters were.
Speaker 2: So when he got a way, then he went back
Speaker 2: down and was picked up by that native guide that
Speaker 2: took him back.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, okay, I think he made his way to
Speaker 1: the shoreline and found a way back.
Speaker 2: Robert Osman just google that.
Speaker 1: It'll be having tons and tons for a couple links
Speaker 1: on our website too. You can find the new folder
Speaker 1: article and tells the story from like nineteen something, that's
Speaker 1: crazy fifty something when he died or.
Speaker 2: So, if I was going to convience that down, i'd
Speaker 2: say man goes on gold hunt to find gold and
Speaker 2: riches in British Columbia, Canada, gets abducted by family, a
Speaker 2: bigfoot carried away in sleeping bag over shoulder for hours,
Speaker 2: dumped on ground, made friends with young bigfoot baby kids,
Speaker 2: becomes family pet, uses a package of chewing tobacco to
Speaker 2: make maybe several the big daddy Sasquatch sick and uses
Speaker 2: the opportunity to escape and find his way back to civilization.
Speaker 1: I do it old timing.
Speaker 2: It was just in.
Speaker 1: Man abducted by Sasquatch, keptain sleeping back for several days.
Speaker 1: Puns is way out by nothing.
Speaker 2: Out the deck, no pun intended. Cool. Yeah, I like
Speaker 2: that story. It's a goofy one. It's hard.
Speaker 1: That's why I was prefacing tinfoil hats, get everything, getting
Speaker 1: ready to protect you from this babble.
Speaker 2: So our next episode, we're going to talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about some of the Native American stories that are
Speaker 2: probably talking about bigfoot before bigfoot was a thing, and
Speaker 2: so we'll talk about those. Do you have any other
Speaker 2: more modern stories kind of like these that are that
Speaker 2: are kind of you know, you hear a lot of
Speaker 2: like stories on different kinds of podcasts or or even
Speaker 2: you know, documentaries about people who've ran into a bigfoot
Speaker 2: or what they thought was a big foot. But these
Speaker 2: are these stories that we're telling are a little more
Speaker 2: you'd call them type A encounters. Do you have any
Speaker 2: more encounters stories?
Speaker 1: One more story? It was sent in by a guy
Speaker 1: named Craig. That's all I got, Craig.
Speaker 2: You sent it in through our weapons.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just message on Facebook, oh to you?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, old.
Speaker 1: Old Craig, Craig I got.
Speaker 2: I've got nothing. If you've got a story, please send
Speaker 2: it to us my story at a Strange thing dot com.
Speaker 2: I'll send you a swag. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Craig's talking about he's in the like Seattle area,
Speaker 1: like l'connor. I've actually been there, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Lo Connor, Loconnor. It's like a town outside of Seattle.
Speaker 1: So he's up with some friends at this cabin and
Speaker 1: there's kind of this little uh what do you call
Speaker 1: when there's like a almost like a lake, but it's
Speaker 1: part of the ocean, like a like an inlet in
Speaker 1: in the middle of this is like this this island.
Speaker 2: So Craig and like some friends.
Speaker 1: I want to say, he's like his best friend and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: On Inlet Island. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Inland Island?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Island, so what And then in the middle, when the
Speaker 1: tide goes down, especially, there's like kind of like a
Speaker 1: patch of trees and like you can walk over to
Speaker 1: this kind of thing. So the tide goes down and
Speaker 1: they make their way across to this.
Speaker 2: Like a land bridge when the tide's love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like halfway there, the tide kind of starts
Speaker 1: coming up and they're like, we gotta get back more
Speaker 1: to this island or we got to turn around. They're
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, let's just get to the island
Speaker 1: because we can't turn around. It's kind of like soupy
Speaker 1: and muddy already, and like this mucky water is kind
Speaker 1: of a panicking sity.
Speaker 2: So they end up going to the island rather than
Speaker 2: back to shore in the inlet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my mind, they're closer to the island than
Speaker 1: they are to the inland. Let's just get here.
Speaker 2: Okay. So so what you're saying is they get trapped
Speaker 2: on the island. Yeah, I mean it's a twenty tide
Speaker 2: comes in.
Speaker 1: I We're talking like thirty trees and bushes and like
Speaker 1: a trail from people that do this regularly, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So they get on the island, but on the other
Speaker 1: side of the island, going towards the other side of
Speaker 1: this little inlet. Inlet is like a much better rockier
Speaker 1: way to get to the mainland. Right.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple land bridges when the tide's low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on this particular side it's muddy where their
Speaker 1: cabin is, and on the other side where there's another cabin.
Speaker 2: Is so rock land bridge versus mud land bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they make their way across on the rock
Speaker 1: Land bridge.
Speaker 2: They get out and it's kind of like.
Speaker 1: A oh no no.
Speaker 2: So they go to the island, go around to the island,
Speaker 2: and they go on the other side back to the mainland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, from their perspective, initially it's the end of
Speaker 1: the world. The other perspective is now we have to
Speaker 1: walk around this like kind of laky inlet and go
Speaker 1: to get back to our cast and there's another cabin
Speaker 1: on the other side. It's like a whole little community,
Speaker 1: all right. So they get there, they're kind of an
Speaker 1: off season, like the late fall, and they get there
Speaker 1: and the cabin on the other side is like pretty
Speaker 1: banged up. It's got like the windows blown out and
Speaker 1: like the door's kind of like a jar.
Speaker 2: But not open. I missed the opening part where you
Speaker 2: said where Okay. So they're staying at cabin Ah, okay,
Speaker 2: and caviin b is on the other side, on the
Speaker 2: other side of the rock Land Bridge, on the other
Speaker 2: side of the island. Yeah, it's on the other other
Speaker 2: side of the inlet. Yeah, okay, as far as I can.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to draw the geographic picture of this thing. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So they get to this other side and he's a
Speaker 1: little bit kind of weird, and they said it was
Speaker 1: like somebody had been.
Speaker 2: Like squatting there or something.
Speaker 1: And I'm assuming it's like later afternoon, and they have
Speaker 1: to kind of make their way back around the whole
Speaker 1: inlet right back to.
Speaker 2: There because the mud bridge is yeah, water covered.
Speaker 1: And cross the little creek or whatever that goes in there.
Speaker 1: And they start making their way over and the second
Speaker 1: cabin they come across.
Speaker 2: Is all busted in.
Speaker 1: It's still not their cabin, No, their cabin's several cabins,
Speaker 1: sounds like it, and so they're like, well, this is
Speaker 1: getting kind of creepy. We're up here by ourselves. And
Speaker 1: he says it like smelled bad and there was like
Speaker 1: stuff on the floor like something it had been like
Speaker 1: using the restaurant on the floor and stuff. So they're
Speaker 1: kind of like weirded out, like this is gross, and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like wondering, when we get home, we
Speaker 1: might need to leave. So they start kind of hustling,
Speaker 1: and they're getting this feeling of being watched and followed
Speaker 1: and again that quiet, eerie feeling. The fourth cabin is open,
Speaker 1: like wide open, like their garage door's up. The door open,
Speaker 1: and the door's open, and it's like demolished, like the
Speaker 1: stuff inside, like the kayaks are on the floor like
Speaker 1: tipped over, and there's stuff kind of coming out of
Speaker 1: the driveway like boxes and stuff. Sounds like riots or
Speaker 1: something going kind of yeah, So they kind of go
Speaker 1: out to this cabin because it seems like people were
Speaker 1: there and there's like lights are on and it's just
Speaker 1: too eerie. They kind of like going, hello, you know,
Speaker 1: it's everything okay. And the garage door where they just
Speaker 1: went in shuts behind them. They're trying to open it,
Speaker 1: and they can feel the tension of something behind them
Speaker 1: holding the door shut. They run around and they can
Speaker 1: hear this something's following them with like hoops and hallows
Speaker 1: and they're running and it's but they can hear stuff
Speaker 1: moving alongside them, breaking through the trees. So they're kind
Speaker 1: of like frantically scattered running down the road. And they
Speaker 1: get away, turn around and they realize that the girl
Speaker 1: is missing his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: How could they wet? So they like freaked out ran
Speaker 2: away and left without her.
Speaker 1: I guess so, so they kind of like go back.
Speaker 1: They're calling out her name, back to the back to
Speaker 1: the shack or whatever. And they get back there and
Speaker 1: she's on the back porch, sitting down and she's got
Speaker 1: a root beer float in her hand.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a root beer float and W root
Speaker 1: beer float, the big an W mug mug. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: they're like, what's happening? And she's like very quiet still,
Speaker 1: and they look up and above her standing in the
Speaker 1: doorway is a sasquatch with a flower apron on.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, are you crapping me?
Speaker 1: I'm crapping you.
Speaker 2: Why would you say that story such? You're a jerkquad,
Speaker 2: You're just a jerk.
Speaker 1: I was really struggling. You were asking too many questions.
Speaker 1: I had to find the line between making a story
Speaker 1: up and pretending like I heard a story and I'm
Speaker 1: making up right now, gosh, And finally we.
Speaker 2: Just ruined my whole night. I mean, I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: going on? And then you get to the er float
Speaker 2: and they're like let down and totally let down, totally
Speaker 2: let down Sasquatch. There are plenty of real Sasquad stories.
Speaker 2: We don't need to make up Squatch.
Speaker 1: You don't need to make Squatch up.
Speaker 5: Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, on that note, we should, we should
Speaker 2: extricate ourselves from this episode. And we just wanted to
Speaker 2: give a few stories. Okay, well I guess we did
Speaker 2: three because the fourth one was not legit, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it was nonsense. Next episode, I want to tell some
Speaker 2: Native American stories because they're really fascinating. And then I'm
Speaker 2: hoping they get some information back from a few people.
Speaker 2: I've asked some questions. I've sent out some questionnaires to
Speaker 2: a few people that have had experiences or encounters with Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: and I'm asking questions about, you know, when is their
Speaker 2: first recollection of Bigfoot nice? And what do they believe
Speaker 2: about Bigfoot? They believe he's real, and then what are
Speaker 2: their encounters? What do they explain those things with? There's
Speaker 2: a lot of stories out there about people that are
Speaker 2: like out on the fringe, But the people I'm talking
Speaker 2: to are just normal people that have everyday kind of
Speaker 2: thoughts about Bigfoot. I want to throw those out there
Speaker 2: to basically establish a baseline, right, you know what normal
Speaker 2: everyday people think about Bigfoot. And then we're going to go.
Speaker 1: More extreme from that, make some categories. Is he my mythical,
Speaker 1: is he biological? Is he supernatural? Or is he you know, dramonic?
Speaker 1: What is it ancient?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And then the other thing we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about the different
Speaker 2: categories of sightings because there's a ranking system.
Speaker 1: Ranging all the way from Class A to root beer flow.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna spell those
Speaker 2: out so that if you have had, or will have
Speaker 2: or ever have a sasquatch encounter or bigfoot encounter or
Speaker 2: whatever it is encounter, then you will know how to
Speaker 2: quantify that and share it with other people. And if
Speaker 2: you do, we want to be the people you share
Speaker 2: that with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a fun time, we do. We We
Speaker 1: don't like to make fun of people's stories, obviously, I
Speaker 1: mean the Albert Ostman one. If you're feeding a monkey
Speaker 1: to back get away. I'd like to hear the story,
Speaker 1: but I might I might think it's pretty insane, but I.
Speaker 2: Think it's a little bit contrived, maybe, like you Storyoat Squatch.
Speaker 1: If I were abducted by sasquatches and I had heard
Speaker 1: this story, I mean, it could save your life someday.
Speaker 1: All I had was like a cigar in my backpack,
Speaker 1: and I just munched it up and gave it to him,
Speaker 1: and he got sick to his stomach, and then while
Speaker 1: he's dry eving, I could take off nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's resourceful. So we're afraid to send us stories, that's right.
Speaker 2: And also we're gonna start poking at a few different
Speaker 2: things that turn us from you know, this kind of
Speaker 2: lighthearted banter to some things that maybe a little more
Speaker 2: scary and things that are a little more maybe uh nefarious.
Speaker 2: And that's one thing. I think it's also wise if
Speaker 2: these things do exist, to treat them with a little
Speaker 2: bit of gosh, because if they do and there any
Speaker 2: of these stories are real, then it could be kind
Speaker 2: of dangerous. It could be a little bit scary spooky,
Speaker 2: and having good knowledge without being too naive is probably
Speaker 2: very wise. Yep, so we're going to try to give
Speaker 2: you wisdom.
Speaker 1: If you're heading out to the woods, folks, bring some
Speaker 1: iron and like I said, walk softly. I'll carry a
Speaker 1: sharp stick.
Speaker 2: Bangstick, boomstick, boomstick.
Speaker 1: Hey, it's almost Halloween.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you listen to this episode and your Halloween will
Speaker 1: be a little halloweener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going around to make sure that that
Speaker 2: sasquatch costume is actually.
Speaker 1: A cost and don't just wear your costume masks, but
Speaker 1: wear your COVID masks. Yes, so join us next time
Speaker 1: for some cold drinks and some strange conversations.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and happy Halloween. Happy Halloween, Daggers, Daggers,